1 00:00:01,639 --> 00:00:04,080 Speaker 1: Some of the content of Patriots Unfiltered may not be 2 00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:05,640 Speaker 1: suitable for all audiences. 3 00:00:06,040 --> 00:00:13,880 Speaker 2: Listener discretion is advised. The World's Original Podcast. 4 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:20,480 Speaker 3: This is Patriots Unfiltered, presented by Toyota's official website. For deals, 5 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 3: buy a Toyota dot Com. 6 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:27,480 Speaker 4: All right, we're we're. 7 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:29,200 Speaker 2: In no open. 8 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:31,320 Speaker 4: We are in it to it. We are in it, 9 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 4: just like. 10 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:34,599 Speaker 2: We're right into camp, day two of training camp here 11 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:38,960 Speaker 2: at Let's Stadium. It's Paul Pirilla, myself, Dus and Evan 12 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:42,160 Speaker 2: will be pere shortly as soon as availability is over. 13 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 2: Practice just ended a few moments ago. 14 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:47,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, another beautiful day out two for two with the weather. 15 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 2: Little windy, little windy, but a beautiful day out there. 16 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 2: Uh So let's let's get right into it, Paul, because 17 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:56,280 Speaker 2: we've got two days to kind of wrap up here 18 00:00:56,320 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 2: on this show. You know, I say that its attendance 19 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 2: is good. Good to see that. I'd say in terms 20 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:07,560 Speaker 2: of the offense people, that's the first thing I'm sure 21 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 2: on people's minds, little you know, off and on Little Rocky. 22 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, I would say the you know, when the passes 23 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:18,280 Speaker 4: are getting thrown in general, they're getting completed, which is good. 24 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 4: It doesn't look like there's a lot of confusion in 25 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 4: terms of you know, route running and alignment and things 26 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:25,679 Speaker 4: like that, so I would say those are things on 27 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:29,040 Speaker 4: the positive side. There have been times I think that 28 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:31,040 Speaker 4: some of these plays probably would have been blown up 29 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 4: with pressure, but I don't worry about that stuff yet. 30 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 4: I'm not gonna tell you I'm not worried about it. 31 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:40,679 Speaker 4: I'm just saying yet, because of the obvious. You know 32 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 4: that your shorts and helmets on Wednesday today, I think 33 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 4: they had shells on. But it's very hard to gauge 34 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:51,920 Speaker 4: how much the pass rush as a result of not 35 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 4: being able to really have contact. So I would say 36 00:01:55,240 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 4: that Harold Landry calevon Chase on on Wednesday in particular, 37 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 4: those guys were constant presents in the backfield on a 38 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 4: lot of plays. I think they disrupted things, but overall, 39 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 4: I think a good start, good, not great, good start 40 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:09,839 Speaker 4: for the offer. 41 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:12,680 Speaker 2: I think today what they were working on was the 42 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 2: short passing. Yeah, a lot of quick stuff when there 43 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:18,680 Speaker 2: was pressure. I think they were sending pressure to test 44 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:21,079 Speaker 2: out that short passing game. Getting rid of the ball. 45 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:23,239 Speaker 4: I would agree with you that that was the goal. 46 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:25,239 Speaker 4: I would think I would say it was a little choppy, Yes, 47 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 4: you know some of them that I looked like exactly 48 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:30,360 Speaker 4: the way Fred just described it. They wanted the ball 49 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 4: out immediately, and Drake wasn't able to get it out 50 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:35,920 Speaker 4: immediately because either there was someone in his face or 51 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 4: the guy wasn't open yep, So he was like sort 52 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 4: of double clutching a little bit. 53 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:42,680 Speaker 2: But like like you said, I think pretty much everything 54 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 2: he threw except for one. 55 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I could count on one hand the 56 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:47,680 Speaker 4: amount of incompletions in the last two days. 57 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, but that doesn't mean that in a real game 58 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 2: they would be because, like you said, sometimes the guy's 59 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 2: there and the balls thrown anyway. 60 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 4: And a lot of the completions today, especially like Fred said, 61 00:02:57,919 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 4: were really sure. Yeah, a lot of. 62 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 2: Short But I think if you're wondering how Kyle Williams 63 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 2: is doing, I think he showed up yesterday, had a 64 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:08,840 Speaker 2: couple of good catches. I think a couple of them 65 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 2: were against Gonzo, right. 66 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:12,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, he had one one in particular. I think he 67 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:15,240 Speaker 4: ran Gonzo off, you know, a little bit of a 68 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:17,840 Speaker 4: comeback out, you know, depending on how you want to 69 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 4: classify a comeback route on the sideline, and it looked 70 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 4: like he did a good job of separating from Gonzo 71 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:27,679 Speaker 4: went up, made a nice, nice strong hands catch on 72 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:30,919 Speaker 4: the sideline. Today, not as good, had a couple of drops. 73 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:34,080 Speaker 4: He had one drop in in team and then mishandled 74 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 4: a punt trying to do some punt return stuff. But yeah, 75 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 4: I would say that Kyle Williams definitely was was a 76 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 4: presence on the first ad. 77 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 2: Pop had a nice sideline, had a good day to day. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, 78 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 2: So that was good to see. 79 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 4: It seems like Drake is really trying to The idea 80 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 4: is to try to get the ball in as many 81 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 4: different receivers hands as possible. 82 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 2: Offensive line. I know that got a lot of the 83 00:03:56,600 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 2: headlines yesterday because of the pressure that was Happy Morgan 84 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 2: Moses might have had a little bit of a rough 85 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 2: day yesterday. I wouldn't make too much of a big 86 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 2: thing about it, But something I noticed today with Campbell I'm. 87 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 4: Interested in this. 88 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, where he was lining up, I think he'd be 89 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 2: flagged during the game. I think he was too much 90 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 2: off the line, and I think that caused him problems 91 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:29,479 Speaker 2: because in his drop step because he was starting so 92 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:32,800 Speaker 2: far back by the time he set, he was right 93 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 2: next to Drake May. 94 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:35,280 Speaker 4: I'm eye on that. 95 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:37,280 Speaker 2: I think you need to get your point of contact 96 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:41,040 Speaker 2: a little sooner than that. And I think it started 97 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 2: with where he was lined up, and then, like I said, 98 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:47,159 Speaker 2: his drop step where he would eventually set and have 99 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 2: his point of contact. His back was almost touching Drake May. 100 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 2: You don't want that, you want a little bit of it. 101 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 4: I definitely thought there was some issue with Morgan Moses 102 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:02,120 Speaker 4: at times with that Kansas is it Juwan Taylor? I 103 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:04,240 Speaker 4: forget the guy's name though. Yeah, he was tackle for 104 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:07,280 Speaker 4: Kansas City, the right tackle that always beats the snap. 105 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 4: I thought Morgan Moses was doing a lot of that 106 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:11,919 Speaker 4: today and I wonder if that was, you know, a 107 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:15,040 Speaker 4: result of getting beat by Harold Landry a lot yesterday. 108 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 4: But those are things when the pads come on we 109 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 4: can really focus on. But the alignment thing is interesting 110 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:21,840 Speaker 4: because that doesn't matter about it. 111 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 2: He was a little bit further back than I think, 112 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:27,680 Speaker 2: But what do I know. I'm looking at it from 113 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:30,599 Speaker 2: the ramp, but I did have my binoculars. What what 114 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:34,240 Speaker 2: I do like about Campbell is his feet. He's really 115 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:37,360 Speaker 2: you know, he's six five, and I yeah, short arms. 116 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 2: Forget about that. He's a big guy, and he moves 117 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:45,360 Speaker 2: a lot smaller than his size. He's a lot quicker. 118 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 2: He's a lot quicker than his size. 119 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 4: He has good feet, no doubt, but it's going to 120 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:52,160 Speaker 4: be a learning curve. I think they've I think those 121 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 4: both of those guys struggled a little bit with the 122 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 4: edge guys. Chase on was was pretty good yesterday. Okay, 123 00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 4: all right, So that's the way I choose to, you know, 124 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 4: you know me positive Paul start of camp fresh. Yeah, 125 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:06,919 Speaker 4: I look at the defensive The defensive line was supposed 126 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 4: to be much improved, and we've kind of seen those 127 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 4: guys be active in the past. 128 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 2: Rush yep, So you can look at it either way. 129 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:19,040 Speaker 2: Like you said, yesterday, there was a big dog adoption 130 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:23,480 Speaker 2: thing going on. Players brought up puppies and the team 131 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 2: teamed up with three animal shelter you know, big name, 132 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:32,920 Speaker 2: I think the Rescue League and I forget the name 133 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 2: of the other two, but they had forty dogs here. 134 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 2: Every one of them got adopted and it was pretty cool. 135 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:41,640 Speaker 2: The owner was here with his wife, Dana, and that's 136 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:44,279 Speaker 2: going to be sort of an initiative going forward with 137 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 2: the team. Is finding these dogs homes. So that was 138 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:49,799 Speaker 2: really cool. 139 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah. I guess everybody thought it was very 140 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 4: well received. I know a lot of people get there, 141 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:57,160 Speaker 4: what doesn't love dog except for you? Yeah, I mean, 142 00:06:57,160 --> 00:06:59,039 Speaker 4: I know, we've got to take the obligatory shot, but 143 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 4: that's okay. It was a good day for the organization. 144 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 2: Yep, really nice. Stefon Diggs was kind of the star there. 145 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:06,840 Speaker 2: The dog he was bringing up, he decided to let 146 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:08,480 Speaker 2: it down and the dog ran away from. 147 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 4: Him, and we panicked because he's like on the other 148 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 4: side of the fence, and it's kind of like a 149 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 4: uneven you know, terrain, right, like, oh, he's gonna twisting 150 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 4: an ankle or something worse. 151 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 2: But if you're wondering how he's looking, he's looking good. 152 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 4: I think he's running really really well. I don't think 153 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 4: you'd really know that he was coming off of torn 154 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 4: a cl Now we'll see what happens when he starts 155 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:29,680 Speaker 4: getting hit and all that stuff, But right now, I 156 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 4: would say that's probably the most positive development of Camp 157 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 4: is his presence and not just that he's out there. 158 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:38,239 Speaker 4: About how he looks. 159 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 2: Yep, I'm like I said on our last show, I'm 160 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 2: pleasantly surprised that he's out there full tilted. I'm surprised 161 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 2: at how good he looks. So that's all. That's good news. 162 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:52,920 Speaker 2: That's really good news. Something to monitor that happened today, 163 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 2: Christian Barmore off to the side a little bit, working 164 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 2: with a trainer. I don't know what that was all about. 165 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:01,680 Speaker 2: I mean, he passed his conditioning run, so. 166 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 4: He was in. So you know, that's good that you 167 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 4: brought that up, because I do think that's an element 168 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 4: of today's practice. That's a takeaway. He opens the first 169 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 4: team period at his normal spot. 170 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:13,280 Speaker 5: It was. 171 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 4: Him and Milton Williams sandwiched around Tongaga, and those three 172 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:25,960 Speaker 4: took part in the first team period, you know, probably 173 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 4: six six or so plays. Then Barmore came out and 174 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 4: as practice progressed, he was on the left field. Now 175 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:38,679 Speaker 4: all this work took place on the right side, he 176 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:42,360 Speaker 4: was on the left field with one of the Yeah, 177 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:44,439 Speaker 4: I like, I want to call him Joe Kim, but 178 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 4: I know Joe Kim's not here anymore. But someone like 179 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:49,480 Speaker 4: that had like those arm pads, you know, working on 180 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 4: hand placement. So I don't know if he was rehabbing 181 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:56,320 Speaker 4: any kind of an injury or if it was or 182 00:08:56,320 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 4: if he just you know, was dealing with something. So 183 00:08:58,280 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 4: they were making it slow form. But I think we 184 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:03,559 Speaker 4: got guests, so we'll stop yapping and make way. 185 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 2: It's Big Mike, Way for Big Mike and one. 186 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 5: You sit right. 187 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 2: Here wherever you want to sit. You you tell me 188 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:14,600 Speaker 2: where you want to say. I'm not telling you you've 189 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:15,280 Speaker 2: never been in here. 190 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:16,200 Speaker 6: Right. 191 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 4: Welcome to Fred says, Please feel free to visit us 192 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 4: anytime you'd like. Yeah, the door is always. 193 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 2: Want to do your own podcast, we'll do that for you. Yeah. 194 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 2: So I'm Fred Kurchis, Paul Pirillo, Mike and one you. 195 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us right off the practice field. How's 196 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:33,440 Speaker 2: it going? 197 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:36,960 Speaker 7: Is going good? I feel good? This is day three. Yeah, 198 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 7: I'm really just excited to keep going on. 199 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:42,280 Speaker 2: Day three for you, day two for the public. 200 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 4: For the scar. 201 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:42,839 Speaker 5: Yeah. 202 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:47,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, so so things are going good. Question I have 203 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 2: for you because I don't know if you've been watching 204 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:53,840 Speaker 2: the Forge in Foxborough documentary that we've been putting out. 205 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 2: You know, Doug Marone was talking about two other coaches 206 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:02,240 Speaker 2: that he works with, Koo's and hass and he said 207 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:05,200 Speaker 2: it's three voices, but we're all on the same page. Yes, 208 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:07,320 Speaker 2: how does that work for you to do? Just like 209 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:10,439 Speaker 2: one of them focus more on the interior, Like, how 210 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:12,079 Speaker 2: is it working with those three coaches? 211 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 6: It's been great. 212 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:16,839 Speaker 7: Really, they're all really knowledgeable, or all three of them. 213 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 7: They kind of split it up day to day or 214 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 7: you know, sometimes host takes the interior, sometimes kooks take 215 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 7: the tackles. Sometimes coach Marown takes the interior. So I 216 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:28,080 Speaker 7: mean it's just kind of day to day. But we're 217 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 7: all preaching the same things and coaching the same things. 218 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 7: But it's good to get the insight. Also, it's three 219 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 7: odds looking at your technique, looking at yourself and just 220 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:37,440 Speaker 7: you know, you get that insight of what you're doing 221 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:39,440 Speaker 7: with it's right or wrong, and you know, going to 222 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 7: the practice field and making sure you get those on 223 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:43,160 Speaker 7: the field, make sure you getting those reps. 224 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 2: Okay, Like you. 225 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:47,840 Speaker 4: Get some new guys you know on either side of you, 226 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 4: you know, with with Garrett Bradbury and Morgan Moses. Just 227 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:53,960 Speaker 4: how's that progression come? And you know, the comfort level 228 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:54,720 Speaker 4: for you guys. 229 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 7: I'm very me personally, I'm very comfortable. I think we've 230 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:00,320 Speaker 7: all played a lot of football, So I mean as 231 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:02,720 Speaker 7: of you know, coming into the spring and coming into 232 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:05,600 Speaker 7: the season, we've been communicating, really just getting on the 233 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:08,359 Speaker 7: same page and making sure we understand each other. And 234 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:10,600 Speaker 7: so far we've been feeling great. I've been feeling good 235 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 7: about where I am and where they are. 236 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 2: So that's a lot of experience between the three. 237 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 6: For sure, you know it is. 238 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, So is that a comfort thing, like you're quicker 239 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 2: to be in the same page. 240 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:22,960 Speaker 7: Yeah, I would say, so. You know, we all see 241 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:25,199 Speaker 7: the same things through the same set of eyes. So 242 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 7: it's it's not like you got a second guess. You know, 243 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:29,960 Speaker 7: you know, I know where where Garrett is going to be. 244 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 7: I know where Mo is gonna be. If we've got 245 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:33,439 Speaker 7: a blitch off the edge, I know he's going to extend. 246 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:35,160 Speaker 7: So it's like, you know, I can put myself in 247 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:35,640 Speaker 7: a position. 248 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:38,079 Speaker 4: Okay, what was the off season like four years? Do 249 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 4: you do anything different this year? You've been around a 250 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:41,960 Speaker 4: little bit. Now we're going to call you a veteran 251 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 4: now because you around. 252 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:47,319 Speaker 7: The summer was the same. It really just worked out, 253 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:49,720 Speaker 7: kept busy. I was here in the spring and summer, 254 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 7: so you know, I felt good. I really was just 255 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 7: excited about coming back and having everybody back together. You know, 256 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:59,080 Speaker 7: those spring practices were good. You know, it was mostly passed. 257 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 7: So I mean it feels good to run the ball 258 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:01,960 Speaker 7: now and get out and run. 259 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 2: Yeah. So do you, as an offensive lineman look forward 260 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 2: to the first day in pads as much as you do? 261 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:09,160 Speaker 6: Yeah? Exactly, exactly. 262 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 4: Camp starts Monday for you guys, right, yeah. Yeah. We 263 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:16,600 Speaker 4: keep talking about, well, it looks like Harold Landry and 264 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:20,439 Speaker 4: calevon Chasen they're coming off the edges. But we always say, 265 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:22,440 Speaker 4: it's just so unfair for you guys to try to 266 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 4: like really physically pass block when you're not wearing pads. Yeah, 267 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:28,400 Speaker 4: what I mean, just how how difficult of a challenge 268 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:30,040 Speaker 4: is that for you don't have to work on techniques. 269 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:31,280 Speaker 7: I'm not going to say its difficult, but I mean 270 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:33,400 Speaker 7: we've been going to get against each other from the spring. 271 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:36,960 Speaker 7: We know that those guys have speed. Also, it doesn't 272 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:39,719 Speaker 7: help that they know our cadences, know our snapcounts when 273 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:41,360 Speaker 7: we run, you know, we say our snapcounts. 274 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:42,959 Speaker 6: So it's it's not that hard the timing. 275 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:45,079 Speaker 7: But obviously that makes us better and gets us better 276 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 7: for our opponents that are doing the same thing. So 277 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:49,880 Speaker 7: you know, they're using as a as an advantage, and 278 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:52,400 Speaker 7: we we're using as an advantage as well, getting off 279 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 7: the ball and make sure we're getting off the snap 280 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:54,120 Speaker 7: on time. 281 00:12:54,520 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 2: That's awesome. So what's what's once the practice is over 282 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 2: for how's that been for you? The meetings? You know, 283 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:05,559 Speaker 2: this is the first year with Mike Vrabel and his staff. 284 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:08,200 Speaker 2: Do you see any difference or is that just routine? 285 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:11,880 Speaker 6: I think it's been routine. One big difference. 286 00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:15,480 Speaker 7: I think we've been practicing earlier this year, so I 287 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:16,960 Speaker 7: think a lot of guys are liking that. You know, 288 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:19,319 Speaker 7: you kind of come in, get your mind right, get 289 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:21,800 Speaker 7: really practiced, and then the rest of the evening is 290 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 7: to watching the film, installs and stuff. So it allows 291 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 7: us to have a little bit a little bit of 292 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 7: time and not practicing during the hottest part of the day. 293 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:31,120 Speaker 7: But you know, we get our work in and then 294 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:33,559 Speaker 7: we get to improve and get the corrections. 295 00:13:33,640 --> 00:13:37,200 Speaker 4: Okay, some of the rookies you got obviously will on 296 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:39,480 Speaker 4: the left side, but you get some other new guys 297 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:42,840 Speaker 4: in there. Jared Wilson has been I see coming in 298 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:44,800 Speaker 4: and out of the lineup. And what are your impressions 299 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:45,840 Speaker 4: been for some of the new guys. 300 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:48,520 Speaker 7: Yeah, really, I'm impressed by all of them. I think 301 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 7: they're all they all have talent, they all can play. 302 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:54,599 Speaker 7: I really like them really from top to bottom, you know, 303 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:57,680 Speaker 7: all of the rookies, and especially in my room as well, 304 00:13:57,720 --> 00:14:02,840 Speaker 7: but you know, Jack Kui, Uh, Marcus, like really everybody 305 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:04,880 Speaker 7: can play and they all they all have talent. So 306 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 7: you know, I really just can't wait to put the 307 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 7: pazzle on for them to just let it roll. 308 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 2: Yep. 309 00:14:08,920 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 4: I guess we have to kind of ask you, you know, 310 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 4: just your impressions of Drake, you know, by comparison, you know, 311 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 4: as a rookie, came in sort of you know, taking 312 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:20,120 Speaker 4: a back seat to Jacobi last year. What have you 313 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:22,560 Speaker 4: seen different about his approach as the starter? 314 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:25,480 Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, Drake has always been the same guy, 315 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:28,000 Speaker 7: I think really, you know, he leads by example. He's 316 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 7: vocal as well, but you know, really just from the huddle, 317 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:33,680 Speaker 7: from the snap at the at the line of scrimmage, 318 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:36,760 Speaker 7: and really just in the workouts, you know, always positive energy. 319 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:38,800 Speaker 7: You know, you don't want to get things wrong because 320 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 7: you don't want to disappoint Drake. So I mean, like, 321 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 7: you know, I think that's that's that's for everybody you 322 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 7: know me as a line included or alignement included. You know, 323 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 7: you want to do your best and obviously do the 324 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:49,280 Speaker 7: right things on the line. 325 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 2: So when you're out there, it's my final question because 326 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:54,120 Speaker 2: I know you you got you gotta get going. Do 327 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 2: you ever glance over to that building that they're building 328 00:14:56,360 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 2: over there, Yeah, that's what we're gonna. 329 00:14:57,840 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 7: Be next year. Yeah, we had walked through yesterday. It 330 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:01,360 Speaker 7: was a it was a little weird just looking to 331 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:03,080 Speaker 7: the left and I'm just like, man, it's a it's 332 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:06,360 Speaker 7: a whole big building right usually or last year, uh, 333 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 7: you know, it's just trees in the background. 334 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:09,120 Speaker 6: But it's cool. 335 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:11,120 Speaker 7: You know, we'll be able to come out and come 336 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 7: on our grass field and just be able to do 337 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:14,680 Speaker 7: walk through or really just get some grounding. 338 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 2: I've seen some of the mock ups. It's going to 339 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:17,800 Speaker 2: be pretty cool. 340 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 6: And yeah, I can't wait. I can't wait. 341 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:21,360 Speaker 2: All right, Mike, We'll let you get back to it 342 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:24,480 Speaker 2: stopping by anytime. This is where we are. 343 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:27,760 Speaker 6: I'll be here, all right, Thank you, Thanks Mike, sir. 344 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 2: All right, Mike, and when you coming off the practice 345 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 2: field and joining us here in Patriotson. 346 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 4: Filter that's all right, Mike, Mike shows that scene. It 347 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:40,680 Speaker 4: doesn't matter. He doesn't count, all right now. You know, 348 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 4: it's just interesting, you know. I kind of as we 349 00:15:44,040 --> 00:15:46,320 Speaker 4: were talking to him, I was thinking like, how young 350 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:49,960 Speaker 4: the left side could be, yep, But at the flip side, 351 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 4: how experienced the other side? You know? And I think 352 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:56,920 Speaker 4: if you're Garrett Bradbury or Jared Wilson, how much that 353 00:15:57,040 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 4: changes the dynamic, you know, because she got obviously Moses 354 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 4: thirty four years old. Yeah, Mike's been around now, which 355 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 4: is sixty year for Mike twenty twenty yeah. 356 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's fifth year. Yeah, well twenty sixty three, yeah. 357 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 5: Six years. 358 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 4: So you know, there's a lot of experience from the 359 00:16:13,120 --> 00:16:15,720 Speaker 4: middle to the right, but not as much, even if 360 00:16:15,760 --> 00:16:18,400 Speaker 4: it's cold, strange, not as much to the left. 361 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:22,240 Speaker 8: You traded Mike's Hey, Mike, get a little Mike, get 362 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 8: a little sweaty or just switched chairs. 363 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 5: No, it's fine. I like it, you know, I like it. 364 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:26,760 Speaker 4: So I feel like I got you know, I got 365 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 4: involved in procut some of his DNA, not creepy one 366 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:33,000 Speaker 4: of that dog of me yet uh, you know, it's 367 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:35,920 Speaker 4: hung around listening to some of the interviews and Morgan 368 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 4: Moses was interesting to asked him about the rotation going on. 369 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:39,960 Speaker 5: He said, I'm not really paying attention to it. 370 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:42,120 Speaker 8: Obviously they have some you know, younger guys they want 371 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:43,600 Speaker 8: to get some reps too, But I don't know what 372 00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:45,560 Speaker 8: it's about. But he said, I did say it's the 373 00:16:45,560 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 8: new offense for me, so I'm learning a little bit. 374 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 8: One other line I thought was good. 375 00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:50,480 Speaker 5: He's like, man, these guys they got no pads on, 376 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 5: we had nothing to grab onto. 377 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:52,720 Speaker 2: You know, we can't stop them. 378 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 5: So, uh yeah, a couple little nuggets there from Morgan Moses. 379 00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:58,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, Mike was similar on that. We were talking about 380 00:16:58,080 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 4: it a little bit, just saying it's not even just 381 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 4: that we can't hit them, it's they're they're familiar with 382 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:06,200 Speaker 4: what we're doing, our alimate cadence, you know, so they're 383 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:07,719 Speaker 4: getting a jump now. 384 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:08,719 Speaker 5: Good stuff, you know. 385 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:11,359 Speaker 8: Kendrick Bourne talking a little bit about Josh McDaniels the 386 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 8: return of the offense. Of course, everybody wants to know 387 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:17,480 Speaker 8: what's different, you know what What has changed in Kendrick's 388 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:19,520 Speaker 8: point of view on it was that he's got some 389 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:21,720 Speaker 8: different coaches and philosophies around him now. 390 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:24,879 Speaker 5: So that's what's altering the scheme a little bit. 391 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:27,800 Speaker 8: It's still the fundamental basis of it is Josh McDaniels 392 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:30,680 Speaker 8: and the language that he speaks offensively. But I think 393 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:33,120 Speaker 8: we'll have to wait and see what the influent influence 394 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:35,159 Speaker 8: is of you guys from the rams and you know, 395 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:36,679 Speaker 8: guys from all the different trees. 396 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:39,040 Speaker 5: So yeah, good stuff, good stuff. 397 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:41,919 Speaker 2: That I mean. I I was interested because in the 398 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:47,080 Speaker 2: in the documentary, Maron mentions he's got the other two assistants. 399 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:49,960 Speaker 2: He's got Hoss and he's got Cogs, and you know, 400 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:54,600 Speaker 2: they all could be the headline coach on their own. 401 00:17:55,040 --> 00:17:57,480 Speaker 2: So you've got these three voices, but they're speaking is 402 00:17:57,520 --> 00:18:00,720 Speaker 2: one and might confirm that he's said, you know, it's 403 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:04,359 Speaker 2: really good. Sometimes you're working with one, sometimes you're working 404 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:07,000 Speaker 2: with the other and getting technique tips and whatever. But 405 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:08,320 Speaker 2: it's all the same message. 406 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:10,639 Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, I like that has guy. Like I 407 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:11,560 Speaker 5: like listening to him. 408 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:14,200 Speaker 8: He seems like an I said, offensive line coach through 409 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:17,840 Speaker 8: and through just that, like yeah, Jason Howdling has of 410 00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:20,080 Speaker 8: course they got the nicknames and everything, but that hope 411 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:20,919 Speaker 8: it all comes together. 412 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:22,439 Speaker 5: This is what we've been talking about. 413 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:25,000 Speaker 8: Diggs, I think has shown up positively the first couple 414 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:27,359 Speaker 8: of days, and I think Drake has shown up positively. 415 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:28,760 Speaker 5: Seems like he's grasping things. 416 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:30,800 Speaker 8: It is in stops and starts and all that kind 417 00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:32,800 Speaker 8: of stuff, and now we wait to see. 418 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:35,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, would you agree today it was a lot of 419 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 2: underneath under pressure type of passing. 420 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:38,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, for sure. 421 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:42,600 Speaker 8: And uh, you know, as Evan actually asked Moses about it, 422 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 8: seemed like you guys were sending a lot of They 423 00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:45,159 Speaker 8: were sending a lot of pressure at you. 424 00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:47,000 Speaker 5: Today they're sending some blitzes today too. 425 00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:49,800 Speaker 8: So I think that's part of Josh's offense, is getting 426 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:51,439 Speaker 8: the ball out quick, the little swing passes. 427 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:52,520 Speaker 4: You know, we saw James. 428 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:54,719 Speaker 5: White and plenty other players feast off of that kind 429 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 5: of stuff. 430 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:59,639 Speaker 2: Listen, if I'm an opposing team defensive coordinator, I'm testing 431 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:03,400 Speaker 2: out the second year quarterback, I'm gonna send pressure at him. Yeah, 432 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:05,800 Speaker 2: I mean more than more than it maybe I would usually. 433 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:06,040 Speaker 4: Yeah. 434 00:19:06,040 --> 00:19:07,400 Speaker 8: I think I got Paul in my head now though, 435 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:09,360 Speaker 8: where it's like, Okay, it's good. We're completing a lot 436 00:19:09,359 --> 00:19:11,560 Speaker 8: of passes, you know, around getting the ball out quick. 437 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:13,920 Speaker 8: Let's find some big plays. Now, it's start to hunt 438 00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:15,600 Speaker 8: that stuff. As the weak progressive. 439 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:17,359 Speaker 4: Yeah, and I would I would agree with Fred that 440 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:20,240 Speaker 4: today it clearly looked like the goal was to get 441 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:22,560 Speaker 4: the ball out quick and go for the underneath stuff 442 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:24,679 Speaker 4: against pressure, you know, and I think that's what they 443 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:27,720 Speaker 4: were supposed to do. I just felt like there was 444 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:30,199 Speaker 4: a lot of double double pumping on some of that stuff, 445 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:33,280 Speaker 4: Like guys weren't uncovering quickly enough. Sure, you know, more 446 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:35,800 Speaker 4: so than the pressure. I thought it was the coverage. Yeah, 447 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:38,400 Speaker 4: I one hundred percent agree with that a couple of times. 448 00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:39,919 Speaker 8: I mean, one of the I guess it was one 449 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:42,000 Speaker 8: of the first plays there in the third series where 450 00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 8: Drake had to tuck and run up the middle. It 451 00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:46,159 Speaker 8: didn't seem like anybody was open, but it seemed like 452 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:47,560 Speaker 8: a pretty good day for Pop Douglas. 453 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:49,440 Speaker 5: Who that's it, that's where he should be kept. 454 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:51,720 Speaker 4: I thought he was. I thought he was good today. 455 00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:54,240 Speaker 4: I thought he was getting open quickly, and you know, 456 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 4: I made sure if you catch on the sideline. But 457 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:59,280 Speaker 4: I thought the bread and butter stuff is the quick hitters. 458 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:02,800 Speaker 4: You know, he's gonna uncovered quickly. And yeah, like the past, 459 00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:04,520 Speaker 4: you know, the passes for the most part for two 460 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 4: days being complete Yeah, so that's what you want to say. 461 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 2: Evan. Lazar joins us as well, Hello, Evan, has we turned. 462 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:22,520 Speaker 9: So? 463 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:24,840 Speaker 2: Evan, I want to ask you, and you know you 464 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:28,639 Speaker 2: can go free form after this question. But I was 465 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:30,800 Speaker 2: talking with Paul before Mike got here, and I was 466 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:33,560 Speaker 2: had my eyes on on Campbell for a little bit, 467 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 2: And would you say that he was lining up a 468 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:41,200 Speaker 2: little bit too far back? What might he have been 469 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:44,160 Speaker 2: flagged for that in a real game? And I'm wondering 470 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:47,600 Speaker 2: because of that, when he was doing his drop and 471 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 2: when he got to his set, I thought he was 472 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:52,040 Speaker 2: just too close to Drake. What did you think? 473 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:55,160 Speaker 10: I thought that there are some times where that might 474 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:56,959 Speaker 10: have been the case. I don't know about where he 475 00:20:57,359 --> 00:20:58,960 Speaker 10: if he was going to be flagged for where he 476 00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:01,160 Speaker 10: was lining up. It's kind of hard to tell about 477 00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:05,280 Speaker 10: saying right down the line, but I think right now, 478 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:08,120 Speaker 10: when for any young player, pretty much all of them 479 00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 10: probably you know, he's trying to figure out like where 480 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:13,520 Speaker 10: his set points are going to be at this level. 481 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:16,120 Speaker 10: You know where we worked in college worked in college, 482 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:19,119 Speaker 10: but this is a different game, and it was something 483 00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:21,600 Speaker 10: that in college, you know, he would often get opened 484 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:23,879 Speaker 10: up a little bit too quickly, and that would allow 485 00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 10: guys to swim inside of him, you know, across his 486 00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:29,919 Speaker 10: face and get inside. So I bet you there's some 487 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:34,399 Speaker 10: tinkering going on with his stance, with his feet, you know, 488 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:37,359 Speaker 10: with his set points of where exactly he's going to 489 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:40,080 Speaker 10: hit his landmark. So it'd be interesting to see how 490 00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:42,320 Speaker 10: they kind of progress here. But we were just talking 491 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:46,600 Speaker 10: to Morgan Moses after practice and I asked him, like, 492 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 10: what what do you tell the young guys about these 493 00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:52,760 Speaker 10: non padded practices, and he said, don't get discouraged because 494 00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:55,000 Speaker 10: we got nothing to hold on to, Like we go, 495 00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:56,840 Speaker 10: there's there's no pads. 496 00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:59,199 Speaker 2: We had in here, and he said the same thing. Yeah, 497 00:21:59,200 --> 00:21:59,880 Speaker 2: you know, they're. 498 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:03,280 Speaker 10: They're in these practice jerseys and they're slippery and they're 499 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:05,400 Speaker 10: they're hard to get your hands on them like that, 500 00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:09,879 Speaker 10: So don't don't get discouraged that you might be missing 501 00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:12,080 Speaker 10: some blocks that you think you should be making, because 502 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:14,160 Speaker 10: once the pads go on, it's a different game. 503 00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:17,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, Yeah, we did have Mike here and we 504 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:20,600 Speaker 2: were talking about the three coaches that are involved with 505 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:23,920 Speaker 2: the offensive line and he agreed with what Doug maroone 506 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:27,440 Speaker 2: said and Forge and Foxborough that you know, it's great 507 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 2: having all three. They all speak the same and it's 508 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:32,480 Speaker 2: the same message, even though you might be working with 509 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:36,480 Speaker 2: a different one one day than another. Uh, he's really 510 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:38,760 Speaker 2: liking it. He finds it really helpful. 511 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:42,080 Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean, look, it's to me, it's it's the 512 00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:43,720 Speaker 10: tipping point of the team is if. 513 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:44,160 Speaker 11: They can block. 514 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:46,879 Speaker 2: I know it all starts there if they. 515 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:48,480 Speaker 10: Because I think the rest of the pieces that they 516 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:51,320 Speaker 10: have will be good enough, and especially with Josh Pack like, 517 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:53,040 Speaker 10: I think he'll be able to get guys open and 518 00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:55,199 Speaker 10: he'll be able to game plan and and do all 519 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:57,399 Speaker 10: that stuff to move the football. Can they block and 520 00:22:57,480 --> 00:22:59,440 Speaker 10: they hold up up front? And you know, they seem 521 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:01,920 Speaker 10: to be really trying to find a home for Jared 522 00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:04,000 Speaker 10: Wilson as well. I think they just look at his 523 00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:07,080 Speaker 10: talent and are like, we this is a talent upgrade 524 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:09,040 Speaker 10: if we can find a spot for him, whether it's 525 00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:12,120 Speaker 10: at center or it's a left guard. So there's still 526 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:15,240 Speaker 10: some tinkering there with the lineups and as it is 527 00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:17,159 Speaker 10: right now, it's it's hard to kind of say how 528 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:20,640 Speaker 10: the results are and non padded practices, but that's that's it. 529 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:21,639 Speaker 11: That's the X factory. 530 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 2: I saw Wilson and he came in one play and 531 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:25,199 Speaker 2: had a bad snap. 532 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:29,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's too bad for him, And yeah, we're unsure 533 00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:31,840 Speaker 4: on that. I'm almost positive it was Bradbury. 534 00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:34,240 Speaker 5: It was a debate in the I think Wilson. 535 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:35,880 Speaker 4: I think Wilson was that left guard. 536 00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:38,280 Speaker 2: I'm that sorry, Jared Wilson if I got you wrong. 537 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:41,159 Speaker 4: But I'm not positive. There was a couple other people, 538 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:43,040 Speaker 4: and then I was Mike and I were really watching 539 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:45,399 Speaker 4: the rotations from that point on for the other the 540 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:48,800 Speaker 4: ensuing team periods, and it would be Bradbury at center, 541 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:50,679 Speaker 4: and then Wilson would come in at left guard for 542 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:54,560 Speaker 4: a play for Strange, and then the next play Bradbury 543 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:57,359 Speaker 4: would leave, Wilson would go to center, Strange would return, 544 00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:00,520 Speaker 4: and I could swear the play that there was a 545 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:03,600 Speaker 4: fumbled snap on after the play, Bradbury was among the 546 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:04,760 Speaker 4: linemen that was running off. 547 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:06,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, to tell all right. 548 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:10,400 Speaker 4: So I can't tell you definitively with a thousand percent certainty, 549 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:14,160 Speaker 4: but I think it was Bradberry. Yeah, okay, but every 550 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:15,960 Speaker 4: but there was a couple other people that thought, would 551 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:16,720 Speaker 4: you guys, Yeah. 552 00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:18,640 Speaker 10: I thought it was Wilson too, But maybe you could 553 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:20,800 Speaker 10: be right. Maybe he was at left guard and it 554 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:22,040 Speaker 10: just happened fast. 555 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:24,680 Speaker 2: Right and you see him come from that direction, right, Yeah. 556 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:27,720 Speaker 10: But either way there was an a boarded snap. Whoever 557 00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:29,879 Speaker 10: it was on, it doesn't really matter. There was an 558 00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:33,560 Speaker 10: a board snap. But yeah, I mean, I know that 559 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:36,359 Speaker 10: it gets boring talking about the offensive line sometimes, but 560 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:39,000 Speaker 10: for this team like that, that's it more. 561 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:41,720 Speaker 5: Boring than anything else. Well, I was just thinking about it, 562 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:42,000 Speaker 5: win you. 563 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:44,160 Speaker 8: I mean, he's had a different offensive line coach every 564 00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:45,560 Speaker 8: single year of his career. 565 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:48,159 Speaker 5: It's changed every single year. It's it's got to add up. 566 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:48,840 Speaker 5: It's not easy to do. 567 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:49,919 Speaker 4: Up to seven years and you. 568 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:51,280 Speaker 2: May not even have had a coach. 569 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:54,480 Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know I've been David Andrews and 570 00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:55,480 Speaker 10: James Farris. 571 00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:57,160 Speaker 5: Right right crazy. 572 00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:01,840 Speaker 2: We talked a little bit about the wide receivers. Williams 573 00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:05,040 Speaker 2: had a good day yesterday, a little less so today. 574 00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:10,000 Speaker 2: Pop Douglas had a nice catch today. After I asked 575 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:12,919 Speaker 2: you how' zeft and Chisholm doing, you said, really, he 576 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:15,240 Speaker 2: hasn't done much yet. He came in and had a 577 00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:17,760 Speaker 2: nice pass down the field there where he found a 578 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:21,720 Speaker 2: soft spot and had a catch. Yep, Yeah, yeah. 579 00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:24,320 Speaker 8: No, another you know, good day, they're completing passes, thought 580 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:25,080 Speaker 8: Travian Henderson. 581 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:27,399 Speaker 5: You saw a little glimpse of the potential he might have. 582 00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:29,520 Speaker 8: Just coming out of the backfield on the swing passes 583 00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:32,679 Speaker 8: and that kind of thing. Rawandro Stevenson right back in 584 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:36,119 Speaker 8: the mix as you would think he would be. But 585 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:37,639 Speaker 8: I mean, I think it's it's you know, fair to 586 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:39,280 Speaker 8: point out. I went on the radio this morning to 587 00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:42,399 Speaker 8: talk about the rotation, and everyone said, oh, Moses was 588 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:45,960 Speaker 8: pulled for performance. Well, now that's not true. 589 00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:48,240 Speaker 4: In fairness, one person said that the person who was 590 00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:51,200 Speaker 4: interviewing was the only person that I didn't read anybody 591 00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:54,000 Speaker 4: say that. I didn't read, I didn't hear anybody say 592 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:57,119 Speaker 4: that except for the question that you got hit right 593 00:25:57,119 --> 00:25:59,200 Speaker 4: out of the choot with this morning anything on one 594 00:25:59,200 --> 00:25:59,760 Speaker 4: of my shows. 595 00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:02,720 Speaker 8: I think we're all excited for the you know, stability 596 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:06,480 Speaker 8: that Morgan Moses could potentially represent. But it's also real 597 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:09,200 Speaker 8: positive if if this team sees some potential in trade 598 00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:11,520 Speaker 8: Jacobs and you know, I mean that's Morgan Moses isn't 599 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:13,159 Speaker 8: gonna be the long term solution, even if he has 600 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:15,240 Speaker 8: a great year this year. So the fact that they're 601 00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:18,000 Speaker 8: keeping that door open and continuing to get to Montree 602 00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:20,200 Speaker 8: Jacob's reps. I mean, I know he had a bad 603 00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:23,200 Speaker 8: year last year amongst everybody having a bad year. 604 00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:25,320 Speaker 5: But if they were to somehow get. 605 00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:27,560 Speaker 4: Him on track and solve that problem that right tackle 606 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:30,280 Speaker 4: for the long term with trade Jacobs, then that's bigger 607 00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:31,040 Speaker 4: positive to me. 608 00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:31,360 Speaker 7: Then. 609 00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:34,160 Speaker 8: You know, if Morgan Moses has one good year, that's 610 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:37,439 Speaker 8: about that's some Patriots Dot Com positive, right, Sure? 611 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:41,359 Speaker 2: I was. You know, like I said, if Moses actually 612 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:45,200 Speaker 2: gets beat out by Jacobs, Moses isn't a bad backup. 613 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:50,879 Speaker 4: I you know, tremendous optimism here. But I mean, but seriously, 614 00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:53,479 Speaker 4: if you're a thirty four year old veteran, isn't as 615 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:55,960 Speaker 4: good as what they had last year, we're spinning that 616 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:56,720 Speaker 4: as a positive. 617 00:26:57,560 --> 00:27:00,280 Speaker 2: Well, I'm just saying, if this guy beats some out, 618 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:01,879 Speaker 2: legitimately beats him out. 619 00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:07,160 Speaker 4: Yes he's yes, you think that's good. Oh yeah, but 620 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:09,560 Speaker 4: but you saw the guy play like Jared Wilson. If 621 00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:12,520 Speaker 4: he beats out Bradbury, that's good. He's an incoming rookie. 622 00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:15,360 Speaker 4: We've never seen him play. If he's better than a veteran, okay, 623 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:17,960 Speaker 4: that's good. But I've seen Trey Jacobs. 624 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:20,920 Speaker 2: He can't have improved, you know, like, if he's. 625 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:24,040 Speaker 4: Better than Morgan Moses, that's not good. I actually look 626 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:26,520 Speaker 4: at it as I'm a little disappointed we're not seeing 627 00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:29,520 Speaker 4: kayont those opportunities to be the swing tackle. 628 00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:32,399 Speaker 2: You think Morgan Moses is good? Yes, yes, So if 629 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:34,120 Speaker 2: he beats him out, isn't that a good thing? 630 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:37,639 Speaker 4: That means he's not mean the wrong way? Right, it 631 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:39,920 Speaker 4: means he hit the he hit the wall. 632 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:41,440 Speaker 2: I guess you could look at it that way. 633 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:44,280 Speaker 8: Now, I'm not guys think I'm first team reps though, 634 00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:46,119 Speaker 8: looking like, oh my god. 635 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:46,600 Speaker 5: It's a disaster. 636 00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:50,320 Speaker 10: Like they're saying that because I think Morgan is on 637 00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:51,560 Speaker 10: the pitch camera right now. 638 00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:53,760 Speaker 4: You keep but you keep saying that, like you guys 639 00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:56,600 Speaker 4: are saying that. I'm not saying anything about Morgan Moses' 640 00:27:56,680 --> 00:28:00,360 Speaker 4: performance the body language of having like, oh my god, Jacobs, 641 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:05,959 Speaker 4: that would be absolutely but I'm with him. So I 642 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:08,640 Speaker 4: think that based on what you saw, like if Vederian 643 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:12,600 Speaker 4: Lowe and Trade Jacobs have to play, that's not good, 644 00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:14,560 Speaker 4: that's not good. 645 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:17,160 Speaker 5: But does the book necessarily completely written on Trade Jacobs? 646 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:19,800 Speaker 4: I would say that. I mean, am I going to 647 00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:22,359 Speaker 4: say that he can't improve at all. No, of course not. 648 00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:27,399 Speaker 4: He could improve some, but that's not good enough. I 649 00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:29,520 Speaker 4: don't think you make that kind of a meteoric rise 650 00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:32,560 Speaker 4: from what we saw last year too. He's a serviceable 651 00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:35,720 Speaker 4: right tackle of the future that to me would be 652 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:37,639 Speaker 4: an astronomical turnaround. 653 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:41,120 Speaker 2: I hate judging these guys from last year because they 654 00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:43,400 Speaker 2: were all like, it was just all bad. 655 00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:46,480 Speaker 4: Why can't an individual play well? 656 00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:49,160 Speaker 10: He was also cut by another team and picked up 657 00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:50,920 Speaker 10: by the Patriots in season. 658 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:52,560 Speaker 11: All right, So I'm not trying to pick on him. 659 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:55,920 Speaker 4: I'm just like, I want to caution against that too. 660 00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:58,680 Speaker 10: Yeah, Like, I'm not trying to pick on Trey Jacobs individually, 661 00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:01,520 Speaker 10: but to Paul's point, as a whole, you hope that 662 00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:03,880 Speaker 10: the guys you brought in this year are better. 663 00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:07,480 Speaker 2: Than the guys And I certainly hear you about the center. 664 00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:10,320 Speaker 2: If Wilson could come in and earn that spot, that's 665 00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:10,880 Speaker 2: a good thing. 666 00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:14,800 Speaker 4: And that's another part of it is Morgan Moses is 667 00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:20,560 Speaker 4: a by all accounts a solid right tackle in the NFL. 668 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:24,400 Speaker 4: Bradbury last year was considered one of the worst centers 669 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:26,800 Speaker 4: in the NFL. Okay, So if Jared talk about that. 670 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:29,920 Speaker 4: So if Jared Wilson comes in as a rookie who's 671 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:33,160 Speaker 4: never played yet and is better than that, I'm okay 672 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:34,960 Speaker 4: with that. I think that's a positive development. 673 00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:38,200 Speaker 2: Correct me if I'm wrong about Bradbury. Last year there 674 00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:42,640 Speaker 2: was one category of the stats against in passing situations 675 00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:44,920 Speaker 2: where he graded like one of the worst. 676 00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:48,800 Speaker 4: I mean he was something like sixty four centers something 677 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:51,520 Speaker 4: like that in that category. No, no, No, overall is great. 678 00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:57,160 Speaker 10: Well, obviously the passing blocking grades more emphasis right run blocking. 679 00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:01,480 Speaker 10: He's an athletic center, but he's undersized. He's undersized and 680 00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:03,360 Speaker 10: a play strength and size in general. 681 00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:05,280 Speaker 2: How well has he been in the league six seven 682 00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:07,280 Speaker 2: years and he's been a starter for most of those. 683 00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:08,520 Speaker 11: Yeah, and he's an early draft thing. 684 00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:12,840 Speaker 4: He's a very and he could be done maybe. Okay, 685 00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:15,320 Speaker 4: there's a reason why they wanted to move on from him, 686 00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:17,680 Speaker 4: and they targeted a center to replace him. Yeah. 687 00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:19,760 Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean he just can He can be targeted. 688 00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:23,160 Speaker 10: You know, if you have a really good interior pass rusher, 689 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:24,920 Speaker 10: then a lot of teams will target him, you know, 690 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:27,040 Speaker 10: by putting them straight up over the center. 691 00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:29,600 Speaker 11: But I feel bad about making fun of trade Jacob. 692 00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:32,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not trying. I want to caution against that too. 693 00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:36,640 Speaker 4: I'm not like there's always outliers and things. He can 694 00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:39,040 Speaker 4: start off at a spot and then improve to the 695 00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:41,520 Speaker 4: point where Mike could be right and say like, well 696 00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:44,360 Speaker 4: that's a really positive elopment, Like you didn't expect this 697 00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:47,280 Speaker 4: kind of improvement now all of a sudden, he's he's 698 00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:50,920 Speaker 4: like tom Ashworth or you know some guy who really 699 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:54,240 Speaker 4: started at at a low level and really got good 700 00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:56,600 Speaker 4: to the point where he was more than adequate. As 701 00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:58,720 Speaker 4: that could happen. So I agree with that, but I 702 00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:00,560 Speaker 4: don't want I don't want to big, but based on 703 00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:02,520 Speaker 4: what I saw last year, I don't want Vederian Low 704 00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:05,080 Speaker 4: and Trade Jacobs having to start at tackling like those. 705 00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:08,400 Speaker 10: Those two just whatever metric you want to use, they 706 00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:10,720 Speaker 10: graded out as to the worst starting tackles in football 707 00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:12,959 Speaker 10: last year. And you bring in Will Campbell, I'd say 708 00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:15,320 Speaker 10: the same thing about Will Campbell against Vederian Low, like 709 00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:17,920 Speaker 10: Will Campbell definitely should beat out Vaderian Low, like that 710 00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:20,480 Speaker 10: shouldn't even be a question, right, And I'd say the 711 00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:22,960 Speaker 10: same thing with Moses and Trey Jacobs. 712 00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:25,560 Speaker 11: But I'm not like worried about Moses at all. 713 00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:28,280 Speaker 10: I think, you know, he's on a pitch count maybe 714 00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:30,120 Speaker 10: a little bit here early as a veteran that had 715 00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:32,800 Speaker 10: a knee injury last year, and they're sort of easing 716 00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:35,120 Speaker 10: him back into things, and he's maybe a little bit 717 00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:38,120 Speaker 10: rusty as a result because he hasn't had the reps yet. 718 00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:41,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, and I will state that emphatically, Mike, because I 719 00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:43,480 Speaker 4: know that you did get hit with something today and 720 00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:46,320 Speaker 4: I'm just saying Mike was on the Sports on the story. No, 721 00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:49,600 Speaker 4: he did Mike Sports this morning. The first thing out 722 00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:54,920 Speaker 4: of the shoot was like, to short Morgan, Moses is 723 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:59,200 Speaker 4: being replaced for performance and so I don't that. I 724 00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:01,760 Speaker 4: think that's redict I heard it too, Okay, So I 725 00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:04,200 Speaker 4: don't think that's what happens. I agree with Evan. I 726 00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:07,600 Speaker 4: agree with Mike. I think there does clearly have some 727 00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:10,120 Speaker 4: things that they want to do and they're rotating. 728 00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:11,600 Speaker 2: God where did they get that from? 729 00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:14,200 Speaker 5: Somebody must struggled. 730 00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:15,920 Speaker 11: Yesterday didn't have a good practice and he. 731 00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:19,520 Speaker 4: Didn't practice well. Harold Langy was running around him yesterday, 732 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:23,280 Speaker 4: but today there was nobody really running around him, and 733 00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:26,120 Speaker 4: yet he's still rotated out. Yeah, so I don't think 734 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:28,160 Speaker 4: it was a performance thing. I think that's a big 735 00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:31,360 Speaker 4: leap to say that he was yanked for performance. 736 00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:33,640 Speaker 10: I think one of the things that listening to Moses 737 00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:37,360 Speaker 10: today and then actually Stefan Diggs yesterday, that stands. 738 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:37,360 Speaker 11: Out to me. 739 00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:39,800 Speaker 10: But with two guys that are proven veterans in this 740 00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:43,280 Speaker 10: league that don't have to build confidence and don't have 741 00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:46,080 Speaker 10: to like come out of the game like they the 742 00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:49,200 Speaker 10: way that they've talked about like the marathon that this 743 00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:53,400 Speaker 10: is and not the sprint, And like Stefan Diggs yesterday 744 00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:56,440 Speaker 10: was like it's day one, like like two cares like 745 00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:58,200 Speaker 10: we went out there and we put the work in. 746 00:32:58,720 --> 00:32:59,960 Speaker 11: You know, you guys are gonna do it. 747 00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:00,360 Speaker 2: You do. 748 00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:02,920 Speaker 10: But in terms of reporters, but like you know, he 749 00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:05,280 Speaker 10: said that that was his message to all the younger 750 00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:07,800 Speaker 10: guys in the wide receiver room is like this is 751 00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:11,200 Speaker 10: this is the first day. Like let's not like if 752 00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:13,600 Speaker 10: people were asking him questions like what's his chemistry like 753 00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:16,720 Speaker 10: with Drake May and he's like, it's day one, you know, 754 00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:18,360 Speaker 10: like ask me in a month. And I feel like 755 00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:20,960 Speaker 10: with these guys like Moses and Diggs, they just have 756 00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:23,920 Speaker 10: a comfort level in a confidence already in the league 757 00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:26,440 Speaker 10: that they don't need to come out, you know, like 758 00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:29,000 Speaker 10: a rookie or a second year player, and be like 759 00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:31,040 Speaker 10: I'm the man, right like they already know they're the man, 760 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:32,640 Speaker 10: so just give it some time. 761 00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:34,440 Speaker 8: I think part of this for me, I would relate 762 00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:36,560 Speaker 8: it to my to my Jalen Polk take, which didn't 763 00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:38,600 Speaker 8: doesn't taken a great turn the first two days. But 764 00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:43,400 Speaker 8: I guess I'm still reserving some optimism for guys who 765 00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:46,000 Speaker 8: weren't that great last year because of a new coaching 766 00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:48,920 Speaker 8: staff and a new system. And I haven't closed the 767 00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:51,800 Speaker 8: door on guys that had bad seasons last year. I'm 768 00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:53,880 Speaker 8: still going to allow them to miss the first two 769 00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:55,840 Speaker 8: two days of practice like not a great sign not 770 00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:58,120 Speaker 8: you know, I might have to walk that back. But 771 00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:00,160 Speaker 8: at the same time, I still think that's some of 772 00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:03,240 Speaker 8: these guys could blossom. And that's where I live with 773 00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:05,440 Speaker 8: my analysis. I'm not, you know, and I think that's 774 00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:06,120 Speaker 8: more than fair. 775 00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:08,799 Speaker 4: Mike, and I would say, like I was in your 776 00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:13,200 Speaker 4: shoes yesterday during our live show and during practice about 777 00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:16,400 Speaker 4: Kyle Dugger, and I you know, I think everybody is 778 00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:20,680 Speaker 4: completely given up on Kyle Dugger. And that's okay, you know, 779 00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:24,120 Speaker 4: I remember just a couple of years ago where he 780 00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:26,160 Speaker 4: was making a lot of plays. I think with a 781 00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:29,800 Speaker 4: better coaching staff and a better scheme, maybe he goes 782 00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:32,839 Speaker 4: back to that. Maybe I'm wrong, Maybe you know, maybe 783 00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:34,520 Speaker 4: he's banged up a little bit, maybe he doesn't quite 784 00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:37,479 Speaker 4: have the mobility and athleticism that he had coming out, 785 00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:39,120 Speaker 4: and you know, maybe he's done. 786 00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:43,120 Speaker 2: Hou I think next guy up in these early practices. 787 00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:46,480 Speaker 2: I know it's early, but it does mean something. You know, 788 00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:49,640 Speaker 2: who is the next guy to come in after you 789 00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:52,080 Speaker 2: know the supposed ones and the fact that you know 790 00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:56,080 Speaker 2: whoever it is, it's like, Okay, they're giving him some 791 00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:59,240 Speaker 2: reps early, which we've always seen through history. 792 00:34:59,440 --> 00:34:59,960 Speaker 6: That's a sign. 793 00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:02,640 Speaker 5: Yeah, So they start to get more as the thing 794 00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:02,920 Speaker 5: goes on. 795 00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:03,239 Speaker 4: I don't know. 796 00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:05,399 Speaker 8: I mean, I get what Evan's getting at that. It's 797 00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:08,200 Speaker 8: just he's the guy. He's the next guy up right. 798 00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:09,040 Speaker 6: Now, would it? 799 00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:11,040 Speaker 4: I mean, I guess Vedarian lowskn Is probably stay on 800 00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:11,840 Speaker 4: the left side anyway. 801 00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:14,399 Speaker 8: But you know, we've seen some flipping. Even with Marcus Bryant. 802 00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:16,120 Speaker 8: He played a little left tackle, a little right tackle. 803 00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:17,279 Speaker 8: They're filling him out as well. 804 00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:20,480 Speaker 4: I'll give you that one. You know, if Marcus Bryant 805 00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:28,840 Speaker 4: because he hasn't he Roou. I would feel that's that's 806 00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:29,760 Speaker 4: that's very nipp. 807 00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:32,960 Speaker 10: We're on the same page in terms of like Kyle Duggart, 808 00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:36,959 Speaker 10: Jabrielle Peppers, Rmandra Stevenson, even Mike on Wentho, like those 809 00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:41,879 Speaker 10: guys that had quote unquote down years last year. I'm 810 00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:44,200 Speaker 10: willing to bet that they're closer to the players that 811 00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:47,239 Speaker 10: they have seen them, right, Yeah, you. 812 00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:48,839 Speaker 11: Know, I think that's just all it is. 813 00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:52,759 Speaker 10: But it's a it's interesting to with that is you know, 814 00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:55,960 Speaker 10: they brought a lot of those guys back and it 815 00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:57,439 Speaker 10: didn't work out last year. 816 00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:02,480 Speaker 11: Paul was right, at least for one season. Let's see 817 00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:03,120 Speaker 11: what happens though. 818 00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:05,759 Speaker 10: You know, if those guys all play to their contracts 819 00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:08,719 Speaker 10: this year, then we kind of have our answer about 820 00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:09,839 Speaker 10: what last year was all about. 821 00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:12,320 Speaker 4: But overall, I would say I'm with Mike in terms 822 00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:15,839 Speaker 4: of the optimism with the coaching and the changes in 823 00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:19,240 Speaker 4: the schemes and just a better just have a comfort 824 00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:21,319 Speaker 4: level that I didn't have last year. I didn't have 825 00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:24,400 Speaker 4: the faith last year, and I do have some faith. 826 00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:26,640 Speaker 4: Now what that means. Does that mean they're gonna win 827 00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:28,960 Speaker 4: twelve games? Like some people are predicting. I don't think so, 828 00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:31,640 Speaker 4: but I do think that they will be better and 829 00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:34,640 Speaker 4: I think that they're going to without question be more 830 00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:35,360 Speaker 4: well coached. 831 00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:37,600 Speaker 8: I just have to say, generally speaking, the way the 832 00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:39,799 Speaker 8: offense has just looked, and I know there have been 833 00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:42,920 Speaker 8: some issues, but it's encouraging to me. I've seen a 834 00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:45,040 Speaker 8: lot of bad offensive football and training camp over the 835 00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:47,839 Speaker 8: last few years, and for the first few days where 836 00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:50,800 Speaker 8: Drake's starting his comfort within the offense, I just I 837 00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:52,759 Speaker 8: think it's a really positive start for these guys seeming 838 00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:55,880 Speaker 8: pretty active. You know, you mentioned Kyle Williams had a 839 00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:59,880 Speaker 8: drop pass, had to drop punt catch as well. But 840 00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:02,040 Speaker 8: I think there's a lot of positive coming out of 841 00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:03,960 Speaker 8: these first couple of day, especially for Drake, for Josh 842 00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:05,839 Speaker 8: and look, that's what we talk about all the time. 843 00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:07,600 Speaker 8: They have to be able to put points on the 844 00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:09,360 Speaker 8: board two days in. 845 00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:11,440 Speaker 5: What does it mean. We'll see. But as much as 846 00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:12,400 Speaker 5: you can ask for, it's not. 847 00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:14,040 Speaker 8: You know, there are a couple of mistakes today and 848 00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:17,680 Speaker 8: you know we talked about the dropped the drop snap. 849 00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:20,760 Speaker 5: But still I think that there's a lot of really good. 850 00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:22,600 Speaker 10: Things happening on that I think the only nitpick that 851 00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:24,799 Speaker 10: I would have on the offense so far as it's 852 00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:26,839 Speaker 10: a lot of short stuff, sure, and it's a lot 853 00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:29,000 Speaker 10: of underneath. It's a lot of quick game, and that's 854 00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:30,920 Speaker 10: Josh McDaniels like, some of that's going to be the 855 00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:32,479 Speaker 10: system and it's going to be a lot of short, 856 00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:36,040 Speaker 10: intermediate throws. I saw Mike Grease, you know, tweeted out 857 00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:38,520 Speaker 10: something that I hadn't really thought of it as some spin 858 00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:41,480 Speaker 10: because you know, it's Mike Resea. He said that, you know, 859 00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:44,120 Speaker 10: maybe that's a way to turn down the turnovers for 860 00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:48,839 Speaker 10: Drake may right, like you're finding efficient completions, Yeah, then 861 00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:51,799 Speaker 10: you're not you know, necessarily putting the ball in Harm's way. 862 00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:54,239 Speaker 10: But I just thought that there were times where he 863 00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:56,600 Speaker 10: was looking downfield and he wanted to let it go 864 00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:59,200 Speaker 10: down the field today and there just wasn't really much 865 00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:01,319 Speaker 10: going on to get the ball to push it down 866 00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:03,600 Speaker 10: the field. He also had a couple of those checkdowns 867 00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:07,000 Speaker 10: at Paul Hates where he's like kind of like, you know, yeah. 868 00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:09,120 Speaker 4: One of them got knocked down by Jeremiah Farms. Yeah, 869 00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:12,399 Speaker 4: and I know, we don't notice what I'm talking about 870 00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:14,960 Speaker 4: with that. Then he throws it at a different velocity. 871 00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:18,280 Speaker 10: I don't mind it when he's like if he's running 872 00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:20,120 Speaker 10: and he's trying to pull the defense with him and 873 00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:22,320 Speaker 10: then he kind of just fils it. Yeah, that's different. 874 00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:23,920 Speaker 10: But when he does it, it's kind of just like 875 00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:27,239 Speaker 10: an afterthought. It's just like, no one's open downfield, I'm 876 00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:29,240 Speaker 10: just going to check it down. I actually think Rabel 877 00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:31,440 Speaker 10: might have might have coached him up on it after 878 00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:32,399 Speaker 10: the last two. 879 00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:34,319 Speaker 4: So that was one thing he said yesterday that I 880 00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:37,120 Speaker 4: really got excited about was they asked him what some 881 00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:39,160 Speaker 4: of the things he's working on, and kind of what 882 00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:41,280 Speaker 4: Evan's talking about is one of the things he's working 883 00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:45,279 Speaker 4: on sort of remaining a passer as a on scrambles 884 00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:47,640 Speaker 4: when he gets out of the pocket. That's kind of, 885 00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:50,840 Speaker 4: to use Evans's term, his superpower. He has the ability 886 00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:53,880 Speaker 4: to make big plays by sort of you know, like 887 00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:57,160 Speaker 4: the phrase like quarterbacks sometimes throw a receiver open. Well, 888 00:38:57,200 --> 00:38:59,360 Speaker 4: he can scramble a receiver open. He did it a 889 00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:02,160 Speaker 4: few times, but you got to keep You remember the 890 00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:04,040 Speaker 4: one to Hunter Henry that you had like you just 891 00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:06,080 Speaker 4: kind of ran around. He dumped it to him for 892 00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:08,879 Speaker 4: like a thirty yard like nobody anywhere near. 893 00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:11,279 Speaker 11: Unfortunately it was in a blow up, but the one in. 894 00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:13,920 Speaker 10: Miami was, oh, yeah, that was He's the one I've 895 00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:17,279 Speaker 10: been right and waiting since May to see the pun 896 00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:19,839 Speaker 10: intended to see him do and unfortunately it just came 897 00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:21,160 Speaker 10: in a game where they were getting smoked. 898 00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:23,440 Speaker 4: So that was one of the things he's like sort 899 00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:26,120 Speaker 4: of consciously, and I do think that's a raabel. 900 00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:28,920 Speaker 11: And maybe that's where the big plays come from impact. 901 00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:31,360 Speaker 10: Like, I don't know if they have the weapons on 902 00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:35,000 Speaker 10: the outside to make big plays organically within the offices, 903 00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:37,120 Speaker 10: so the big plays might have to come from Drake, 904 00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:40,200 Speaker 10: you know, him scrambling him uh, you know, in playground 905 00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:42,200 Speaker 10: mode and creating out of the pocket. 906 00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:42,480 Speaker 4: Yeah. 907 00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:44,360 Speaker 8: The phrase that that kept popping in my mind was 908 00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:46,440 Speaker 8: something that they actually had enforced to just take the 909 00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:48,959 Speaker 8: profit drake, you know, And that was something that Josh 910 00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:49,719 Speaker 8: McDaniel said. 911 00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:50,680 Speaker 5: And that's how it felt today. 912 00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:52,880 Speaker 8: I don't know how much how managed it was, because 913 00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:56,080 Speaker 8: it felt intentional and not oh, just take what's there. 914 00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:57,880 Speaker 5: It seemed kind of this is what they were working on. 915 00:39:57,960 --> 00:39:59,480 Speaker 5: But I think it's a good sign. 916 00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:01,440 Speaker 8: You're seeing some the coaches are talking about and then 917 00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:02,920 Speaker 8: today efficient getting the ball out. 918 00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:05,720 Speaker 4: I will say I would like to see and everything 919 00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:09,719 Speaker 4: offensively I think has been largely positive so far. You know, 920 00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:12,080 Speaker 4: a couple of days in shorts and whatnot. This is 921 00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:16,480 Speaker 4: what's supposed to happen. But it is a couple of 922 00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:18,360 Speaker 4: fall starts here and there. You know, we mentioned the 923 00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:20,440 Speaker 4: fumbled snap. I like to clean up some of that stuff. 924 00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:22,759 Speaker 4: Looks like this. Some they try to do. I thought 925 00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:25,360 Speaker 4: some some tempo today a little bit at times, you know, 926 00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:30,320 Speaker 4: you know, completing a play and quickly getting another playoff, 927 00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:32,200 Speaker 4: and they looked like there was some confusion as to 928 00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:35,759 Speaker 4: where guys were lining up. But overall, I would say 929 00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:37,880 Speaker 4: that what Mike said at the start of this segment 930 00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:42,040 Speaker 4: is accurate. We've seen some bad offense in training camp. 931 00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:45,320 Speaker 4: That's only two days. I haven't seen really bad offense 932 00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:46,440 Speaker 4: in training camp yet. Yeah. 933 00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:49,760 Speaker 5: Bad football, not no bad you know, not the belief 934 00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:50,600 Speaker 5: that will get you beat. 935 00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:52,920 Speaker 2: Right. How's the kicker looking? 936 00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:55,879 Speaker 5: There was some question on a couple of the last 937 00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:56,839 Speaker 5: little today. 938 00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:59,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think the wind affected both. I think they 939 00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:01,400 Speaker 4: both missed their last attempts, but it was kind of 940 00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:04,120 Speaker 4: hard to tell. We were far away. Could you tell that, No, 941 00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:07,840 Speaker 4: they didn't have anybody underneath. Plus you don't care. They 942 00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:11,759 Speaker 4: always like it's like you should have seen how it was. 943 00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:13,680 Speaker 4: I need to get somebody get this right now. 944 00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:16,839 Speaker 11: Anybody get that it's pulling the whole. 945 00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:19,280 Speaker 10: During the spring, they would like run to get underneath 946 00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:19,920 Speaker 10: the goalposts. 947 00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:22,040 Speaker 4: I think they were both three for four today, but 948 00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:30,200 Speaker 4: their first kill the trajectory the launch already has. 949 00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:31,080 Speaker 11: So I will today. 950 00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:34,360 Speaker 4: I will say this because you know me, I have 951 00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:37,680 Speaker 4: to find something that I'm not not happy with. A couple. 952 00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:41,000 Speaker 4: I think they both attempted four field goals. Two of 953 00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:44,000 Speaker 4: Borer Galliss didn't look right. One of them he made 954 00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:47,320 Speaker 4: it was the but it was it was the seven 955 00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:50,200 Speaker 4: ball was rotating sideways things. 956 00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:52,520 Speaker 2: That's not good knuckle knuckler. 957 00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:54,359 Speaker 4: And it was two of them, two out of his flour. 958 00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:55,000 Speaker 2: The operation. 959 00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:57,960 Speaker 4: The operation is something to keep an eye on you. 960 00:41:57,960 --> 00:41:59,839 Speaker 4: You get a rookie long snapper, and you. 961 00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:02,719 Speaker 11: Know that's like a sneaky thing to me that no 962 00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:03,520 Speaker 11: one cares about it. 963 00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:06,640 Speaker 10: I just thought I was like really good at his 964 00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:09,160 Speaker 10: job for like almost a decade, and then they moved 965 00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:12,480 Speaker 10: on from him and drafted a rookie long snapper. And 966 00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:14,879 Speaker 10: it will happen once like you know that it will matter, 967 00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:16,200 Speaker 10: because it's not like it's going to be like a 968 00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:17,000 Speaker 10: whole train wreck. 969 00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:19,359 Speaker 4: If you're right. They had they had a veteran long 970 00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:21,920 Speaker 4: snapper for years and years, and Lonnie Paxton who you 971 00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:24,120 Speaker 4: never had to worry about, and then when they moved 972 00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:26,239 Speaker 4: on from him, they drafted Jake Ingram and it was 973 00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:28,560 Speaker 4: an issue. He wasn't great, he didn't last. 974 00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:31,120 Speaker 5: Cycling through guys like Tucker Addington was one of them. 975 00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:32,160 Speaker 5: I things was one of the names there. 976 00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:36,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, Tyler writes in at podcasts at pages dot com. 977 00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:39,520 Speaker 2: He says, first of all, congratulations to Evan on his marriage. 978 00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:42,880 Speaker 2: I'm writing in to take an early victory lap on 979 00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:45,800 Speaker 2: an email I sent this spring. I wrote in asking 980 00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:49,399 Speaker 2: about thoughts on drafting or signing a UDFA full back 981 00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:53,080 Speaker 2: and specifically mentioned brock Lampy because he was from Miama 982 00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:57,600 Speaker 2: made northern Illinois. Evan scoffed at the idea of discussing 983 00:42:57,600 --> 00:43:01,440 Speaker 2: a fullback because he preferred getting another email asking if 984 00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:03,839 Speaker 2: Will Campbell's arms were long enough or if any wide 985 00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:05,880 Speaker 2: receiver one get fall back me? 986 00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:08,280 Speaker 4: Can I step in before you finish reading that? Sure, 987 00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:12,040 Speaker 4: I'm going to guess that I scoffed. Hen Heavin thinks 988 00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:16,399 Speaker 4: that McDaniels' offense, in that offense, you need a full back, 989 00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:19,520 Speaker 4: and he's fully expecting a fullback to be on the roster. 990 00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:21,640 Speaker 4: I'm going to guess that I scoffed at that. 991 00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:24,080 Speaker 2: All right, He says. It looks like Lampi is in 992 00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:26,320 Speaker 2: the driver's seat of getting the full back job, and 993 00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:30,279 Speaker 2: I'm looking forward to having a husky on the team finally. Well, 994 00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:30,920 Speaker 2: we'll see, but. 995 00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:33,919 Speaker 5: I might pump the brakes a little bit. 996 00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:37,759 Speaker 4: I want to see who. I want to see who 997 00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:40,279 Speaker 4: gets cut. I want to see who gets cut. I'm 998 00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:42,040 Speaker 4: not going to lose my mind over it now, but 999 00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:43,560 Speaker 4: I want to see who gave they cut a good 1000 00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:45,120 Speaker 4: player to keep a fullback. 1001 00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:47,319 Speaker 10: I'm not going to be there was there was one 1002 00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:53,439 Speaker 10: play today where they the formation. I'll just say I 1003 00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:56,800 Speaker 10: was very excited. I was like, this, this is exact 1004 00:43:57,000 --> 00:44:01,719 Speaker 10: and it's funny because power I right, it was. It 1005 00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:04,680 Speaker 10: was empty, it was it was a passing formation, but 1006 00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:08,080 Speaker 10: you know they kind of inverted the formation and uh, 1007 00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:10,920 Speaker 10: and I knew, you know, I saw that it was Jane. 1008 00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:14,200 Speaker 10: I want to say, I don't know if I should 1009 00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:16,759 Speaker 10: and then like you know it just it was great. 1010 00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:20,000 Speaker 10: It reminded me of of good times of you know, 1011 00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:22,360 Speaker 10: like Brady, he would see it right like when you 1012 00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:25,000 Speaker 10: would put the full back or the running backs out wide, 1013 00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:27,279 Speaker 10: those are coverage indicators like do they follow them with 1014 00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:30,560 Speaker 10: a linebacker or do they stick the corners outside still? 1015 00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:33,160 Speaker 10: And when the corners stay outside, you usually know it's 1016 00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:36,359 Speaker 10: zone because the corners wouldn't normally cover the full back. 1017 00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:38,319 Speaker 10: So like when you do that, you can kind of 1018 00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:40,920 Speaker 10: give an indicator H to the quarterback of what the 1019 00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:43,279 Speaker 10: coverage is. And Drake May saw it right away, saw 1020 00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:45,720 Speaker 10: that the corner stayed out there, knew it was zoned, 1021 00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:46,680 Speaker 10: took the profit. 1022 00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:48,960 Speaker 4: I was like, yeah, Josh is back. 1023 00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:49,560 Speaker 11: That's it. 1024 00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:51,480 Speaker 5: A couple of couple of other dead lines for me. 1025 00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:52,080 Speaker 2: Uh. 1026 00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:53,920 Speaker 5: I know, you guys might have talked about no Carlton 1027 00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:54,760 Speaker 5: Davis today. 1028 00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:57,000 Speaker 8: After peak peak, we haven't talked about it yet back 1029 00:44:57,040 --> 00:45:00,200 Speaker 8: and uh, you know, it seemed like bar More still 1030 00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:03,040 Speaker 8: on a little bit of account himself, which, as we said. 1031 00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:04,760 Speaker 4: Across the Rocks, you did talk about boss. 1032 00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:06,600 Speaker 8: Teams like that. But a little disappointing that. I mean, 1033 00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:09,279 Speaker 8: I know we're like, well, did he call h Davis? 1034 00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:11,080 Speaker 8: Failed the conditioning test or what like. I don't know, 1035 00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:13,320 Speaker 8: maybe there's something else going on, but it's just disappointing. 1036 00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:16,359 Speaker 4: I just went there just the quick clarification. He opened 1037 00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:20,040 Speaker 4: on NFI and that's why I sort of wonder why 1038 00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:21,399 Speaker 4: he opened on NFI. 1039 00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:22,200 Speaker 5: Because he wasn't NFI. 1040 00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:26,120 Speaker 4: It wasn't ied earlier in the spring, right right, and 1041 00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:29,000 Speaker 4: then he could be sick. Yeah, Barmore could be as sick, 1042 00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:30,040 Speaker 4: as simple as that. 1043 00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:32,520 Speaker 10: Yeah, Barmore was off on the on the side field 1044 00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:35,080 Speaker 10: at one point. Was it looked like with the trainers, Yeah, 1045 00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:37,640 Speaker 10: going like trying to test whatever was going on with him. 1046 00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:41,040 Speaker 10: So Jeremiah Farm saw a lot more time today as 1047 00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:44,520 Speaker 10: a result. But you know, that's definitely no worthy with Barmore. 1048 00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:48,960 Speaker 2: Yep, something to monitor. Alex and Raleigh, North Carolina saw 1049 00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:51,360 Speaker 2: a video where Bertrand and Zoe When of Paul Shows 1050 00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:53,719 Speaker 2: were watching practice on the first day, and Bertrand made 1051 00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:56,280 Speaker 2: it seem like Kyle Williams needed a red jacket already, 1052 00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:58,520 Speaker 2: Like I'm excited for the kid, but can we get 1053 00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:00,680 Speaker 2: him on the field in a game before we start 1054 00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:04,279 Speaker 2: giving out jackets. I appreciate your analysis. That is realistic, 1055 00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:07,799 Speaker 2: honest and not overinflating the good and really digging into 1056 00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:10,640 Speaker 2: the bad. Truly the best show covering Patriots. 1057 00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:13,560 Speaker 4: Well thanks for the compliments, but sarcasm is obviously lost 1058 00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:17,720 Speaker 4: on people because I heard the clip with it's Beetle 1059 00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:19,560 Speaker 4: and Zoe and it sounds more like Beatle to me, 1060 00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:24,280 Speaker 4: they were over the top negative, first on the offensive 1061 00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:27,280 Speaker 4: line on purpose, like oh my god, this is a disaster, 1062 00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:29,960 Speaker 4: and then like hi will we got a receiver, like 1063 00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:33,480 Speaker 4: they were like screaming me the one of them were 1064 00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:34,440 Speaker 4: meant to be taken. 1065 00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:39,080 Speaker 10: Kind of like the he made two catches yesterday. Everybody 1066 00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:40,879 Speaker 10: made a big deal about the one on Gonzo because 1067 00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:43,160 Speaker 10: it's Christian Zales in the all pro corner that he's 1068 00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:45,439 Speaker 10: making to play on. I actually liked the other one 1069 00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:48,600 Speaker 10: better because the other one, to me, was showing that 1070 00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:51,640 Speaker 10: juice and that explosiveness after the catch with the ball 1071 00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:53,400 Speaker 10: in his hands that I'm hoping that he's going to 1072 00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:54,200 Speaker 10: bring to the offense. 1073 00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:57,080 Speaker 4: I'm not really step with Evan Lazarre. I don't know 1074 00:46:57,120 --> 00:46:57,960 Speaker 4: if I've ever done that. 1075 00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:00,719 Speaker 10: I'm not really like expecting him to go out there 1076 00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:03,279 Speaker 10: in an NFL game and start boxing out corners like 1077 00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:07,040 Speaker 10: that's just not he's a five to eighty five pounds 1078 00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:09,359 Speaker 10: speed receiver, Like I just don't think that that's his game. 1079 00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:12,160 Speaker 10: But he came across the shallow part of the field 1080 00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:14,799 Speaker 10: on the little drag route and Robert Splaine was on 1081 00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:16,799 Speaker 10: his horse and he was and Robert Splain could not 1082 00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:19,560 Speaker 10: get him. He ran yeah, and I was like, all right, 1083 00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:21,600 Speaker 10: that's that's the juice. 1084 00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:23,040 Speaker 11: You know, that's what you're hoping he's going to bring. 1085 00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:24,840 Speaker 8: I mean, I wonder is he going to start to 1086 00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:27,759 Speaker 8: push kaisham BOUTI at that X spot and can he 1087 00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:30,799 Speaker 8: bring that element Evan mentioned earlier in the show of 1088 00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:34,640 Speaker 8: explosiveness and downfield threat that clearly dangerous with the ball 1089 00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:35,200 Speaker 8: in his hands. 1090 00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:38,400 Speaker 5: But just also like just seeing how Diggs looks like Diggs. 1091 00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:40,480 Speaker 8: I mean, there's no, it doesn't at all. I mean 1092 00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:41,839 Speaker 8: I think they were manage him a little bit. 1093 00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:44,920 Speaker 4: He had some reps where he came out, but even still, 1094 00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:46,799 Speaker 4: I think he just looks ready to go. 1095 00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:50,160 Speaker 5: And it's fun. It's fun having a good receiver. Everyone 1096 00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:51,600 Speaker 5: can make fun of me for that one for sure, 1097 00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:52,880 Speaker 5: but I'm. 1098 00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:56,120 Speaker 11: Trying not to get too excited because he looks awesome. 1099 00:47:56,239 --> 00:47:59,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, but I mean it's early. I mean a couple 1100 00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:01,040 Speaker 4: of catches today. Well it was what he had a 1101 00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:02,720 Speaker 4: couple there in the first series. 1102 00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:05,280 Speaker 8: But still he's just that's what he is, that precision 1103 00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:08,440 Speaker 8: route running and you know, up and smooth. 1104 00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:11,399 Speaker 2: Eight five five past five hundred is the hot line. 1105 00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:16,439 Speaker 2: Let's go to Nate in Connecticut. What's up? Nate? Nate 1106 00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:22,359 Speaker 2: three two one, Nate is gone? The call back if 1107 00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:27,719 Speaker 2: you want Camp Christian in LA. What's going on? 1108 00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:33,120 Speaker 9: Yeah, you guys know what's going on. First of all, Paul, 1109 00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:39,640 Speaker 9: thank you guys for having on show. How the heck 1110 00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:40,840 Speaker 9: can I try? 1111 00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:42,280 Speaker 4: Left? 1112 00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:47,080 Speaker 2: I literally, your phone's breaking up? 1113 00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:51,040 Speaker 4: Unfortunately I was if you guys could understand, did. 1114 00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:54,480 Speaker 2: You understand what he's saying? Not the word man me? No, 1115 00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:58,120 Speaker 2: your phone's breaking up? Call back? Sorry about that. Randy's 1116 00:48:58,120 --> 00:48:58,720 Speaker 2: in Providence. 1117 00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:00,640 Speaker 4: When you're had a little more money, you can afford 1118 00:49:00,680 --> 00:49:03,640 Speaker 4: a better plan. All right, how's it going good? 1119 00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:05,680 Speaker 2: You've got a good connection. Thank you, Randy? 1120 00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:07,799 Speaker 12: Okay, good, glad to be here. 1121 00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:13,240 Speaker 1: I don't think a lot about the concept of Drake 1122 00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:14,799 Speaker 1: may kind of break. 1123 00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:17,960 Speaker 13: Out you or what his advancement might look like. 1124 00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:21,440 Speaker 12: And I think that it wouldn't be. 1125 00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:24,600 Speaker 9: Like a statistical production thing where you like, you know, 1126 00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:27,680 Speaker 9: put a fourth out the yards or whatever like that. 1127 00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:28,840 Speaker 13: I think it's more of a. 1128 00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:32,680 Speaker 12: Learning to that too. 1129 00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:34,600 Speaker 4: Some issues. 1130 00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:36,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're breaking up too, I don't know. Are you 1131 00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:37,359 Speaker 2: on a speakerphone? 1132 00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:40,960 Speaker 4: No, now you're at the bottom of a well. 1133 00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:45,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's you're kind of like a little bit underwater. 1134 00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:47,000 Speaker 11: I got it. Like you're saying that, it does. 1135 00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:52,400 Speaker 10: Like Drake May's breakout might not necessarily manifest itself in 1136 00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:55,759 Speaker 10: statistics of fantasy football stuff, but it might be more of, like, 1137 00:49:56,360 --> 00:50:01,040 Speaker 10: you know, the intangible things, consistency, cluge, leadership, Yeah, you know, 1138 00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:02,080 Speaker 10: actually winning games. 1139 00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:04,000 Speaker 2: Nate's calling back, what's up? Nate? 1140 00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:07,120 Speaker 4: Yah? 1141 00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:07,800 Speaker 5: Perfect? 1142 00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:08,640 Speaker 9: All right? 1143 00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:12,240 Speaker 1: So if I disconnected earlier, if that was my fault, 1144 00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:16,600 Speaker 1: I accidentally hung up. But my fustion for you guys 1145 00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:20,120 Speaker 1: is what have you seen out of Milton Williams so far? 1146 00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:24,520 Speaker 1: I guess a lot of people say he was only 1147 00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:27,640 Speaker 1: good in Philly because of the monster D line that 1148 00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:31,400 Speaker 1: they had, But I feel like that's not true. I 1149 00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:34,360 Speaker 1: feel like he's a really good player. But what have 1150 00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:37,759 Speaker 1: you seen out of parents during training camp? If he 1151 00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:40,120 Speaker 1: has advertised or is he just another guy on the 1152 00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:40,680 Speaker 1: D line? 1153 00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:43,200 Speaker 2: I mean, it's so hard to tell at this point, Nate. 1154 00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:46,840 Speaker 2: You know, like especially with an interior guy, they're not 1155 00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:50,600 Speaker 2: going full speed, they don't have pads on, so to understand, 1156 00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:54,640 Speaker 2: like how what his strengths would be at this point, 1157 00:50:54,680 --> 00:50:58,040 Speaker 2: it's hard to know. And then the knock on him. 1158 00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:01,600 Speaker 2: It was yes, like said he was surrounded by such 1159 00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:04,319 Speaker 2: a great line with all that depth. He wasn't out 1160 00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:05,000 Speaker 2: there all the time. 1161 00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:06,440 Speaker 5: Yeah, you know I noticed him. 1162 00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:11,200 Speaker 4: We'll see part time player and surrounded by mental talent. 1163 00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:14,080 Speaker 4: But yeah, I agree with Fred. I can't tell you 1164 00:51:14,120 --> 00:51:17,080 Speaker 4: what his strengths are right now because we haven't seen 1165 00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:17,640 Speaker 4: him really play. 1166 00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:19,000 Speaker 8: I mean, I'll tell you what I like most about 1167 00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:21,040 Speaker 8: him so far is how Mike Rabel said. He's the 1168 00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:23,719 Speaker 8: consummate professional and is here all the time, and he 1169 00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:26,759 Speaker 8: seems like a serious football guy. Seems like he's not 1170 00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:29,480 Speaker 8: a guy who got paid and now is just gonna coast. 1171 00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:31,920 Speaker 5: He seems every bit as intense as he was. You 1172 00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:34,040 Speaker 5: know when he played for Philly. I noticed him more yesterday. 1173 00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:35,600 Speaker 8: I felt the ball was coming out a little quicker 1174 00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:38,319 Speaker 8: today with short stuff, so it wasn't as much chance. 1175 00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:39,480 Speaker 11: I mean, it's sometimes just. 1176 00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:41,480 Speaker 8: Random of these practice like guys, catch your eye here 1177 00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:44,200 Speaker 8: and there and something might catch you guys eye that 1178 00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:46,480 Speaker 8: didn't catch my eye, which doesn't mean it's not true. 1179 00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:48,120 Speaker 5: But there's just you know, there's there's so much to 1180 00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:49,799 Speaker 5: watch it once. That's what makes football fun. 1181 00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:52,479 Speaker 2: Right, all right, we're gonna take a break. My food's here. 1182 00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:56,359 Speaker 2: Just want to remind you again about Brunt Workwear. 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I think, you know, pre snap, you know, 1230 00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:25,200 Speaker 16: communication cadence, trying to kind of use that to our vantage. 1231 00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:27,160 Speaker 16: But I thought we made some place, makes some plays 1232 00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:28,840 Speaker 16: down the field. Top of the guys at front fought. 1233 00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:30,600 Speaker 16: It's hard to block without pads, but I thought they 1234 00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:31,960 Speaker 16: did a good job. And I think just you know, 1235 00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:33,520 Speaker 16: coming out and out of each every day and just 1236 00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:34,160 Speaker 16: try to build on it. 1237 00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:37,000 Speaker 4: A long session in Charlotte. How did that come to be? 1238 00:54:37,080 --> 00:54:39,320 Speaker 4: And yeah, Born was that for you to establish yourself 1239 00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:40,200 Speaker 4: as I. 1240 00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:42,560 Speaker 16: Think it's something that you know, you missed those guys 1241 00:54:42,560 --> 00:54:43,759 Speaker 16: for a month and you know you just want to 1242 00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:45,799 Speaker 16: get back at a refresher form, whether it's route wise, 1243 00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:48,120 Speaker 16: play wise. I think the most supportant thing is just 1244 00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:51,080 Speaker 16: bonding together. I think getting the guys together, go out 1245 00:54:51,120 --> 00:54:53,160 Speaker 16: to eat, having some fun, get some work in. And 1246 00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:54,520 Speaker 16: I think it was glad that those guys you know, 1247 00:54:54,640 --> 00:54:55,680 Speaker 16: came out and showed up. 1248 00:54:55,840 --> 00:54:59,800 Speaker 11: It was really reacted. Your first completion and stuff was that. 1249 00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:01,840 Speaker 16: Yeah, it's good to have them out there. I mean 1250 00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:03,120 Speaker 16: it's a good player made a lot of players in 1251 00:55:03,120 --> 00:55:05,600 Speaker 16: this league. You know, thanks the fans out here for 1252 00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:07,040 Speaker 16: showing up. You know, I wish I could, you know, 1253 00:55:07,080 --> 00:55:09,600 Speaker 16: sign everybody. I think that's what's what makes the league go. 1254 00:55:09,719 --> 00:55:11,759 Speaker 16: These fans, you know, coming out here and coming out 1255 00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:13,880 Speaker 16: here on whatever day it is Wednesday, we're in camp now, 1256 00:55:13,920 --> 00:55:16,440 Speaker 16: who knows the days, but coming out here and you know, 1257 00:55:16,600 --> 00:55:18,279 Speaker 16: supporting us and you know, being here for us in 1258 00:55:18,280 --> 00:55:19,879 Speaker 16: the hot and the heat, and I think I still 1259 00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:20,200 Speaker 16: makes it go. 1260 00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:21,600 Speaker 6: So it's fun to be out here and make a 1261 00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:21,960 Speaker 6: place you. 1262 00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:25,040 Speaker 11: Can catch you by surprise, you throw this little pass 1263 00:55:25,080 --> 00:55:26,240 Speaker 11: and all of a sudden they react. 1264 00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:28,880 Speaker 16: No, it's one of those things you figure, just like 1265 00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:30,400 Speaker 16: the first catch in the game. I'm sure you know, 1266 00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:32,279 Speaker 16: a home game and we get a big, big role. 1267 00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:34,000 Speaker 16: I think that's what you want. You want guys that 1268 00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:36,080 Speaker 16: you know, the fans like that they want and I think, 1269 00:55:36,160 --> 00:55:37,120 Speaker 16: you know, there's a lot of rules for a lot 1270 00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:38,040 Speaker 16: of different players around here. 1271 00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:40,000 Speaker 11: There's so much talk about you taking that jump in 1272 00:55:40,120 --> 00:55:42,799 Speaker 11: leadership in here too. How much is that Mike in 1273 00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:45,440 Speaker 11: your ear encouraging it versus just kind of letting you 1274 00:55:45,560 --> 00:55:46,279 Speaker 11: naturally get to that. 1275 00:55:46,640 --> 00:55:47,399 Speaker 6: He's a little bit of both. 1276 00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:49,040 Speaker 16: I think he does a great job of kind of 1277 00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:51,000 Speaker 16: giving me, you know, kind of points where I can 1278 00:55:51,040 --> 00:55:53,279 Speaker 16: improve or points where hey, maybe do this. I think 1279 00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:54,640 Speaker 16: he's also krying of let me go and kind of 1280 00:55:54,680 --> 00:55:56,400 Speaker 16: see where I'm at. And I think it's kind of 1281 00:55:56,440 --> 00:55:58,640 Speaker 16: a challenge for me to kind of leave this football 1282 00:55:58,680 --> 00:55:59,720 Speaker 16: team and leave this offense. 1283 00:56:00,400 --> 00:56:01,480 Speaker 11: Your second training. 1284 00:56:01,239 --> 00:56:02,879 Speaker 4: Camp, how much more confident are you than you first? 1285 00:56:03,080 --> 00:56:05,000 Speaker 16: Yeah, it's a lot different kind of coming here, know 1286 00:56:05,160 --> 00:56:07,279 Speaker 16: to expect. So I was telling the rookies earlier, you 1287 00:56:07,280 --> 00:56:09,200 Speaker 16: know it's gonna be a kind of whirlwind. You're kind 1288 00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:11,759 Speaker 16: of scrambling from period to period and next thing you know, 1289 00:56:11,880 --> 00:56:15,160 Speaker 16: you you're up against the defense and some full speed plays. 1290 00:56:15,200 --> 00:56:17,120 Speaker 16: So I think just take your time and enjoy it. 1291 00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:19,319 Speaker 16: You'll take the time to watch the film, and I 1292 00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:21,040 Speaker 16: think more than not just have fun. I mean, you 1293 00:56:21,080 --> 00:56:22,839 Speaker 16: know the plays, just don't overthink it, and I think 1294 00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:27,000 Speaker 16: just playing instinct. How close do you feel you are 1295 00:56:27,080 --> 00:56:29,200 Speaker 16: to kind of mastering the system that you think? Yeah, 1296 00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:31,320 Speaker 16: and it takes a while, I think to master something 1297 00:56:31,719 --> 00:56:33,680 Speaker 16: at the level that some of you guys played that. 1298 00:56:34,080 --> 00:56:35,360 Speaker 16: So I think I got a long way to go. 1299 00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:37,640 Speaker 16: But I think I'm like where I'm at, got some 1300 00:56:38,080 --> 00:56:40,680 Speaker 16: most stuff to improve on. I think it all comes, 1301 00:56:40,840 --> 00:56:42,520 Speaker 16: you know, facing defenses. I think you can master it. 1302 00:56:42,600 --> 00:56:43,840 Speaker 16: You know, hey, what are these guys gonna do on 1303 00:56:43,880 --> 00:56:45,279 Speaker 16: the route? I think there's a different kind of level 1304 00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:47,680 Speaker 16: when you're facing different hey versus coverage, whatere you're gonna do. 1305 00:56:47,719 --> 00:56:48,960 Speaker 16: But I think there's a different level too of that. 1306 00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:50,560 Speaker 16: I think that we're kind of you don't need to 1307 00:56:50,560 --> 00:56:54,560 Speaker 16: tap into based stuff. I feel good. I mean I 1308 00:56:54,600 --> 00:56:57,560 Speaker 16: think I think it's more of a judge of how 1309 00:56:57,760 --> 00:56:59,520 Speaker 16: how I play today. So I think we can move 1310 00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:03,000 Speaker 16: the ball well if through one kind of one ball, 1311 00:57:03,000 --> 00:57:05,319 Speaker 16: which I'll have back. But they play a good cover 1312 00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:07,040 Speaker 16: before we had, So I think it's just one of 1313 00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:09,080 Speaker 16: those things that you learned from it and trying to 1314 00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:13,960 Speaker 16: let those defensive guys give me. Yeah, Kyle, I know 1315 00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:16,720 Speaker 16: he's backside. One on one with Gonzo, he made a 1316 00:57:16,720 --> 00:57:18,720 Speaker 16: big time catch, you know, strong hands. I told him 1317 00:57:18,720 --> 00:57:21,680 Speaker 16: to maybe sell a little more, just try to you know, 1318 00:57:21,720 --> 00:57:23,600 Speaker 16: give him a go route feel. But I think he's 1319 00:57:23,720 --> 00:57:26,720 Speaker 16: he's uh, he's coming along. He's looking good. I told Gonz, 1320 00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:28,960 Speaker 16: I'm gonna coming Gonz. I'm not gonna, you know, backside, 1321 00:57:29,240 --> 00:57:30,680 Speaker 16: I'm not gonna, you know, leave him out here board 1322 00:57:30,680 --> 00:57:33,040 Speaker 16: at practice. So good for you know, rooking to make 1323 00:57:33,080 --> 00:57:34,800 Speaker 16: a play like that, and uh, I think it's just 1324 00:57:34,840 --> 00:57:35,680 Speaker 16: gonna get better and better. 1325 00:57:35,800 --> 00:57:37,880 Speaker 8: Tra what's your level of excitement coming into the year 1326 00:57:37,960 --> 00:57:40,080 Speaker 8: two now and and with Rabel and with the vibe 1327 00:57:40,080 --> 00:57:40,800 Speaker 8: around here. 1328 00:57:41,960 --> 00:57:42,760 Speaker 6: I think it's awesome. 1329 00:57:42,800 --> 00:57:45,480 Speaker 16: I think coming out here and kind of a reset 1330 00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:47,560 Speaker 16: and you know, everybody you know feels good coming into camp. 1331 00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:49,400 Speaker 16: I think it's kind of you get a tester and 1332 00:57:49,440 --> 00:57:51,200 Speaker 16: get a feel when you come up these practices and uh, 1333 00:57:51,240 --> 00:57:53,200 Speaker 16: these joint practices, you get a real field where you're at. 1334 00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:55,200 Speaker 16: So I'm excited for you know, where this team's going. 1335 00:57:55,200 --> 00:57:56,919 Speaker 16: I think we've got some more work to do, get 1336 00:57:56,920 --> 00:58:01,520 Speaker 16: in shape. Kind of small details offensively, I like kind 1337 00:58:01,520 --> 00:58:02,880 Speaker 16: of you know, day one where we're at and I 1338 00:58:02,920 --> 00:58:04,160 Speaker 16: think we got some some more work to do. 1339 00:58:04,280 --> 00:58:06,400 Speaker 4: What about work here with Stefan Date? Is that exciting 1340 00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:06,600 Speaker 4: for you? 1341 00:58:06,800 --> 00:58:07,040 Speaker 2: Yeah? 1342 00:58:07,120 --> 00:58:10,000 Speaker 16: Anytime you know an All Pro and a player like that, 1343 00:58:10,040 --> 00:58:12,440 Speaker 16: he made some plays out here today, It's it's awesome 1344 00:58:12,480 --> 00:58:14,880 Speaker 16: being able to you'll throw the guy like that and 1345 00:58:15,160 --> 00:58:16,640 Speaker 16: even when you feel like he's not open, he's gonna 1346 00:58:16,640 --> 00:58:18,280 Speaker 16: go make a play for you. And uh kind of 1347 00:58:18,280 --> 00:58:20,880 Speaker 16: tight coverage, you know, he's you'll, you know, strong receiver 1348 00:58:20,920 --> 00:58:23,120 Speaker 16: gonna make plays. And I think it's Uh, we've got 1349 00:58:23,120 --> 00:58:24,160 Speaker 16: a bunch of those guys in the room that a 1350 00:58:24,240 --> 00:58:26,360 Speaker 16: kind of kind of earned their role and find their role. 1351 00:58:26,440 --> 00:58:29,040 Speaker 16: Do you have some trust already sort of established with 1352 00:58:29,200 --> 00:58:31,040 Speaker 16: Diggs just based on what he's done in his career? 1353 00:58:31,240 --> 00:58:31,479 Speaker 12: Take? 1354 00:58:31,640 --> 00:58:33,240 Speaker 4: Or is there so a long way to go there? 1355 00:58:33,280 --> 00:58:36,200 Speaker 16: I think there's certain players that you have trust right 1356 00:58:36,240 --> 00:58:38,120 Speaker 16: when they come in. You know, Garrett Bradberry and Big 1357 00:58:38,160 --> 00:58:39,920 Speaker 16: Mo up front, you know guys like that that have 1358 00:58:39,960 --> 00:58:42,760 Speaker 16: been in this league. And you'll play a bunch of starts, uh, 1359 00:58:42,800 --> 00:58:45,040 Speaker 16: Matt Collins, Hunter, Henry, those guys you know you trust 1360 00:58:45,120 --> 00:58:48,400 Speaker 16: like trust is basically is me kind of earning my 1361 00:58:48,440 --> 00:58:48,960 Speaker 16: trust for them. 1362 00:58:49,040 --> 00:58:51,720 Speaker 11: Is really sorry, sorry, right. 1363 00:58:51,640 --> 00:58:54,800 Speaker 16: Sorry, it's me really kind of uh kind of earning 1364 00:58:54,800 --> 00:58:56,760 Speaker 16: their trust and kind of me kind of making him 1365 00:58:56,760 --> 00:58:59,240 Speaker 16: feel like, yeah, they can you'll trust that guy back there. 1366 00:58:59,240 --> 00:59:00,840 Speaker 16: I think those guys aread, haven't, you know, built in 1367 00:59:00,880 --> 00:59:01,800 Speaker 16: with what they've done in this league. 1368 00:59:02,280 --> 00:59:04,240 Speaker 5: Your second year, how much PE will help you? 1369 00:59:04,280 --> 00:59:06,200 Speaker 2: Knowing what joint practices are about. 1370 00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:09,080 Speaker 16: Yeah, the preseason games about help you get what you 1371 00:59:09,960 --> 00:59:11,320 Speaker 16: I think, I think it's a huge help. 1372 00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:12,520 Speaker 6: That's what the biggest thing is. 1373 00:59:12,560 --> 00:59:14,720 Speaker 16: You know, they say your rookie year is just you know, 1374 00:59:14,760 --> 00:59:16,680 Speaker 16: one like you know after your rookie year year, just 1375 00:59:16,720 --> 00:59:18,800 Speaker 16: like all the rest of the guys veteran. Why so 1376 00:59:19,240 --> 00:59:20,640 Speaker 16: the rookie year is different. You don't really know what 1377 00:59:20,720 --> 00:59:23,360 Speaker 16: to expect. You're coming out here, and I remember the 1378 00:59:23,400 --> 00:59:25,320 Speaker 16: Eagles came out here and they I was in drill 1379 00:59:25,360 --> 00:59:29,680 Speaker 16: and shoot a Mike Blitz came and I was under 1380 00:59:29,720 --> 00:59:32,680 Speaker 16: gunn or I was under center and he basically was unblocked. 1381 00:59:32,720 --> 00:59:34,560 Speaker 16: So little things like that that you kind of learned 1382 00:59:34,600 --> 00:59:36,520 Speaker 16: as a rookie that you know, things don't happen like that. 1383 00:59:36,680 --> 00:59:39,280 Speaker 16: I think coming into here too, hopefully it'll be a 1384 00:59:40,240 --> 00:59:42,200 Speaker 16: kind of bigger stride for me. Kind of take the 1385 00:59:42,200 --> 00:59:44,600 Speaker 16: next level to playing kind of chest match of the defense, 1386 00:59:44,720 --> 00:59:46,320 Speaker 16: and then uh, we have some good teams coming here 1387 00:59:46,320 --> 00:59:48,120 Speaker 16: that we're playing joy practicing, and we're going you were 1388 00:59:48,120 --> 00:59:50,360 Speaker 16: coming here against Washington and we're going up to Minnesota's 1389 00:59:50,400 --> 00:59:52,320 Speaker 16: two good defenses and two playoff teams. 1390 00:59:52,360 --> 00:59:55,880 Speaker 17: So how much how much of a leadership role do 1391 00:59:56,000 --> 00:59:58,000 Speaker 17: you see yourself taking this year in the year or two, 1392 00:59:58,080 --> 01:00:00,240 Speaker 17: are you comfortable stepping up and being more more of 1393 01:00:00,240 --> 01:00:02,440 Speaker 17: a leader, not just with the offense, but with the 1394 01:00:02,440 --> 01:00:03,120 Speaker 17: team as a whole. 1395 01:00:03,200 --> 01:00:03,800 Speaker 6: Yeah, I think so. 1396 01:00:03,960 --> 01:00:05,160 Speaker 16: I think, you know, I'm trying to be I think 1397 01:00:05,200 --> 01:00:06,520 Speaker 16: that's something you got to earn. I think somebody I 1398 01:00:06,600 --> 01:00:09,080 Speaker 16: come in there every day, you'll work hard, I'll play 1399 01:00:09,080 --> 01:00:10,640 Speaker 16: good in practice. I think that's a big part. You'll 1400 01:00:10,640 --> 01:00:13,440 Speaker 16: take practice seriously. I think the practice translations of the games. 1401 01:00:13,480 --> 01:00:15,920 Speaker 16: It's hard to get you know this, the simulation. It's 1402 01:00:16,000 --> 01:00:18,200 Speaker 16: not basketball, KINGO get shot opening three pointers. You know 1403 01:00:18,240 --> 01:00:20,200 Speaker 16: you're you're There's nothing like beating in the mix of 1404 01:00:20,240 --> 01:00:22,400 Speaker 16: it with a lot of bullets going. So try to earn, 1405 01:00:22,480 --> 01:00:24,000 Speaker 16: you know, kind of earned my stripes and practice and 1406 01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:26,280 Speaker 16: then from there just try to go on and hopefully 1407 01:00:26,320 --> 01:00:27,520 Speaker 16: win some games and nothing that will help. 1408 01:00:28,040 --> 01:00:30,600 Speaker 4: Always always working on the final questions because you're always. 1409 01:00:30,400 --> 01:00:32,160 Speaker 5: Working on stuff. What's what's new in your tree. 1410 01:00:31,920 --> 01:00:32,440 Speaker 4: Blocks this year? 1411 01:00:32,480 --> 01:00:37,200 Speaker 16: Working on stuff? Yeah, I think, uh, just kind of 1412 01:00:37,200 --> 01:00:39,520 Speaker 16: remaining a pastor longer when I scrambled, I think that's big, 1413 01:00:39,880 --> 01:00:41,760 Speaker 16: kind of getting us out of pocket, remaining a pastor longer, 1414 01:00:41,760 --> 01:00:44,200 Speaker 16: hope with some big plays, scramble plays, and just making 1415 01:00:44,200 --> 01:00:46,000 Speaker 16: the defense. I feel like, you know, had good times 1416 01:00:46,040 --> 01:00:48,200 Speaker 16: last year, or have some guys deep that I may 1417 01:00:48,200 --> 01:00:49,800 Speaker 16: have missed him or I took off a run instead, 1418 01:00:49,840 --> 01:00:51,640 Speaker 16: So to try to remain a pastor and uh, just 1419 01:00:51,680 --> 01:00:53,240 Speaker 16: keep trying to work on footwork. I think that's the 1420 01:00:53,240 --> 01:00:56,080 Speaker 16: big thing. New offense, you know, new play actions, new 1421 01:00:56,600 --> 01:00:58,520 Speaker 16: uh new new concepts to try to time it up 1422 01:00:58,600 --> 01:00:59,320 Speaker 16: and get a good group. 1423 01:00:59,520 --> 01:01:03,280 Speaker 13: So you said you were excited about the prospects of 1424 01:01:03,400 --> 01:01:04,520 Speaker 13: this team going forward. 1425 01:01:05,040 --> 01:01:06,240 Speaker 2: What excites you lost? 1426 01:01:06,280 --> 01:01:08,960 Speaker 13: Is there something specific that you can point to and 1427 01:01:09,040 --> 01:01:11,280 Speaker 13: say this is gonna be good? 1428 01:01:12,160 --> 01:01:13,800 Speaker 6: M what excites me most? 1429 01:01:13,840 --> 01:01:14,560 Speaker 5: I liked that question. 1430 01:01:16,040 --> 01:01:17,600 Speaker 16: I think you've got the guys around here that are 1431 01:01:17,640 --> 01:01:19,960 Speaker 16: are tired of losing around here and the guys that 1432 01:01:20,000 --> 01:01:21,440 Speaker 16: want to win. I think that's what excites me most. 1433 01:01:21,480 --> 01:01:23,440 Speaker 16: Some guys want to win around here. I think in 1434 01:01:23,480 --> 01:01:25,000 Speaker 16: the past two or three years around here and the 1435 01:01:25,200 --> 01:01:26,760 Speaker 16: past year from me. I want to speak for myself, 1436 01:01:26,760 --> 01:01:28,760 Speaker 16: but I think those guys around here there are tired 1437 01:01:28,760 --> 01:01:29,520 Speaker 16: of losing want to win. 1438 01:01:29,760 --> 01:01:30,960 Speaker 6: So thank you. 1439 01:01:32,800 --> 01:01:37,600 Speaker 4: And now great moments in history. 1440 01:01:37,760 --> 01:01:41,760 Speaker 2: Evan lecturing Tamara about local cuisine. Didn't he eat McDonald's 1441 01:01:41,760 --> 01:01:42,920 Speaker 2: in Germany? No, that was me. 1442 01:01:43,200 --> 01:01:45,360 Speaker 11: I did not eat Samara. 1443 01:01:45,520 --> 01:01:50,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, that was actually Tamara, I, Alex and Matiza. 1444 01:01:51,360 --> 01:01:52,800 Speaker 2: I had McDonald's twice and John. 1445 01:01:52,840 --> 01:01:55,160 Speaker 11: Don't throw me in that. Wait did you go to 1446 01:01:55,600 --> 01:01:56,040 Speaker 11: five guys? 1447 01:01:58,880 --> 01:02:00,680 Speaker 4: Went to podcast? But I also ahead the schnetzel. 1448 01:02:00,920 --> 01:02:03,800 Speaker 11: Wait, but I will call out. I will call out 1449 01:02:03,840 --> 01:02:04,480 Speaker 11: Evan on this. 1450 01:02:05,200 --> 01:02:08,240 Speaker 4: He was too good for German coffee. He had to 1451 01:02:08,240 --> 01:02:09,320 Speaker 4: have starbuck That's true. 1452 01:02:09,600 --> 01:02:11,480 Speaker 5: I recall that. 1453 01:02:11,520 --> 01:02:13,800 Speaker 4: I immediately texted Beth and said, oh, you'd like Evan, 1454 01:02:14,880 --> 01:02:16,280 Speaker 4: but I what Starbucks. 1455 01:02:16,800 --> 01:02:19,440 Speaker 10: I'm sure it doesn't surprise anybody that I am a 1456 01:02:19,440 --> 01:02:20,040 Speaker 10: food snob. 1457 01:02:21,720 --> 01:02:23,840 Speaker 11: That's food. That's what I'm saying. 1458 01:02:24,840 --> 01:02:28,280 Speaker 2: Surprise anybody Patrick Patrick and Ottawa thinks I'm a food snob, 1459 01:02:28,320 --> 01:02:31,200 Speaker 2: he says when Fred. When Fred speaks of food, it's 1460 01:02:31,240 --> 01:02:32,360 Speaker 2: with such snobbery. 1461 01:02:32,440 --> 01:02:34,720 Speaker 4: Yes, there's no question he nails it. 1462 01:02:34,840 --> 01:02:36,280 Speaker 2: He channels the soul of Eric. 1463 01:02:36,640 --> 01:02:39,240 Speaker 4: You tell everybody, don't get this, get this. This is 1464 01:02:39,280 --> 01:02:41,400 Speaker 4: the better Maaker Fred. 1465 01:02:41,720 --> 01:02:43,640 Speaker 11: I feel like Fred and I are on the same wavelength. 1466 01:02:43,680 --> 01:02:45,360 Speaker 11: But he takes he does it a little bit more 1467 01:02:45,400 --> 01:02:45,840 Speaker 11: than idea. 1468 01:02:45,880 --> 01:02:48,919 Speaker 4: He's worse than you at it. Yes, I smash one 1469 01:02:49,400 --> 01:02:52,600 Speaker 4: before smash Burgers, the tavern Burger. That's the one. 1470 01:02:52,760 --> 01:02:53,240 Speaker 2: That's the one. 1471 01:02:53,480 --> 01:02:55,920 Speaker 4: You're wasting your time with, the whiskey River barbere. Don't 1472 01:02:55,920 --> 01:02:56,360 Speaker 4: Mayo on it. 1473 01:02:56,360 --> 01:02:57,280 Speaker 5: Don't put Mayo on it. 1474 01:02:57,880 --> 01:02:58,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, Mayo ruin it. 1475 01:03:00,240 --> 01:03:02,680 Speaker 5: What's honestly, I don't know this. Friend's always tell me 1476 01:03:02,720 --> 01:03:02,880 Speaker 5: not to. 1477 01:03:03,960 --> 01:03:05,560 Speaker 4: That's another great moment. 1478 01:03:09,680 --> 01:03:13,760 Speaker 2: I'm all right back here on Patriots Unfiltered. It's Deuce, 1479 01:03:13,840 --> 01:03:16,440 Speaker 2: it's Paul, it's Evan, it's me, it's Matt and Nabooth. 1480 01:03:18,040 --> 01:03:20,520 Speaker 2: Just want to remind people, or if you don't already know, 1481 01:03:20,880 --> 01:03:22,919 Speaker 2: that there's a raffle going on. It's called the Road 1482 01:03:22,960 --> 01:03:26,840 Speaker 2: Trip Raffle. You can enter to win for your chance 1483 01:03:26,920 --> 01:03:29,960 Speaker 2: to travel to New Orleans as the Patriots take on 1484 01:03:30,000 --> 01:03:34,120 Speaker 2: the Saints on October twelfth. One lucky fan will receive 1485 01:03:34,200 --> 01:03:37,240 Speaker 2: two tickets on a private charter to the game, tickets 1486 01:03:37,240 --> 01:03:41,080 Speaker 2: to the game, hotel, accommodations, and much more. Enter for 1487 01:03:41,120 --> 01:03:43,640 Speaker 2: a chance to win for just ten dollars. All the 1488 01:03:43,680 --> 01:03:47,880 Speaker 2: proceeds benefit the Patriots Foundation. The way to enter and 1489 01:03:47,960 --> 01:03:51,439 Speaker 2: where you purchase your ticket is go to Patriots dot 1490 01:03:51,480 --> 01:03:54,960 Speaker 2: com slash community and look for the road trip Raffle. 1491 01:03:56,600 --> 01:03:59,480 Speaker 2: Join us in New Orleans. Me and Evan, Yes, we'll 1492 01:03:59,520 --> 01:04:00,120 Speaker 2: say hello. 1493 01:04:00,240 --> 01:04:01,760 Speaker 11: Food New Orleans. 1494 01:04:02,480 --> 01:04:03,000 Speaker 2: Good food. 1495 01:04:03,680 --> 01:04:06,360 Speaker 6: Food, Yeah, Cross What do you like? 1496 01:04:06,360 --> 01:04:08,080 Speaker 5: What do you get down there? What's the crocodile? 1497 01:04:08,840 --> 01:04:14,440 Speaker 10: Getes are big, but the restaurants down there are supposed 1498 01:04:14,440 --> 01:04:15,560 Speaker 10: to be incredible. 1499 01:04:16,600 --> 01:04:21,440 Speaker 2: I have to credit Eric. He took us. He took us. 1500 01:04:21,720 --> 01:04:24,440 Speaker 2: He didn't pay, but he took us to a restaurant 1501 01:04:24,520 --> 01:04:28,360 Speaker 2: that created the bananas Foster. So like when you have 1502 01:04:28,440 --> 01:04:30,280 Speaker 2: your dessert, they come right to the side of your 1503 01:04:30,320 --> 01:04:33,600 Speaker 2: table and they got the fire going with the pan 1504 01:04:33,720 --> 01:04:35,760 Speaker 2: and they make it right there right next to you 1505 01:04:35,880 --> 01:04:38,800 Speaker 2: to It was delicious. It was delicious. 1506 01:04:38,600 --> 01:04:39,600 Speaker 5: It's making me hungry. 1507 01:04:39,680 --> 01:04:41,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, we just had pizza time actually, because I don't 1508 01:04:41,800 --> 01:04:42,960 Speaker 4: know if you guys ever heard of that place, but 1509 01:04:42,960 --> 01:04:49,280 Speaker 4: they had left over pizza pizza. Who ordered pizza. It 1510 01:04:49,400 --> 01:04:52,800 Speaker 4: was leftover from that was yesterday, giant order in the 1511 01:04:52,800 --> 01:04:54,000 Speaker 4: fridge pizza. 1512 01:04:55,000 --> 01:04:57,480 Speaker 11: I didn't took it off. 1513 01:04:57,720 --> 01:04:58,520 Speaker 5: Sorry, I'm a little bit. 1514 01:04:58,760 --> 01:05:00,480 Speaker 8: I'm a little bit thrown off because I didn't realize 1515 01:05:00,520 --> 01:05:02,880 Speaker 8: I was sitting in a sopping wet chair. 1516 01:05:02,800 --> 01:05:07,440 Speaker 4: From actually apologized when he got up and I said, 1517 01:05:07,480 --> 01:05:08,919 Speaker 4: don't worry about it. That's seat. 1518 01:05:09,280 --> 01:05:13,440 Speaker 2: So no, but honestly, it's not Mike's fault because he 1519 01:05:13,600 --> 01:05:15,920 Speaker 2: just came off the practice film. We appreciate that. So 1520 01:05:16,240 --> 01:05:18,280 Speaker 2: we'll just have to make note that when we get 1521 01:05:18,280 --> 01:05:19,400 Speaker 2: players off the press. 1522 01:05:19,720 --> 01:05:20,320 Speaker 4: I wrote it down. 1523 01:05:21,520 --> 01:05:24,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no, seriously, you know, like, yeah, we'll do that. 1524 01:05:26,320 --> 01:05:30,400 Speaker 10: Did you see uh, Ted Carris on Edelman's podcast The 1525 01:05:30,480 --> 01:05:34,760 Speaker 10: towel the baby incident. This has been written before, but 1526 01:05:34,920 --> 01:05:37,480 Speaker 10: you know Brady with centers would make them put a 1527 01:05:37,520 --> 01:05:41,080 Speaker 10: towel in their pants because Brady didn't want the sweat drip, 1528 01:05:43,360 --> 01:05:44,680 Speaker 10: so he put the. 1529 01:05:44,600 --> 01:05:47,160 Speaker 2: Spends a lot for those manicures you don't want to like, you. 1530 01:05:47,120 --> 01:05:50,120 Speaker 10: Know, and apparently he Ted Carris didn't know when he 1531 01:05:50,200 --> 01:05:52,920 Speaker 10: was like a young player, rookie, and Brady did it 1532 01:05:52,920 --> 01:05:55,880 Speaker 10: on the sideline, pulled his pants down on the sideline 1533 01:05:55,920 --> 01:05:58,480 Speaker 10: and put the towel in his pants for him, right 1534 01:05:59,200 --> 01:06:01,000 Speaker 10: right in the front of you know, Ted care is, 1535 01:06:01,000 --> 01:06:02,880 Speaker 10: like in front of sixty five thousand people. 1536 01:06:05,160 --> 01:06:08,200 Speaker 2: Who was the guy though that was just notoriously bad 1537 01:06:08,280 --> 01:06:11,000 Speaker 2: sweater like he started? It was Stork. 1538 01:06:11,240 --> 01:06:12,040 Speaker 5: I don't know. I don't know. 1539 01:06:12,040 --> 01:06:14,520 Speaker 2: It could have been Paula. There was one guy who 1540 01:06:14,600 --> 01:06:15,000 Speaker 2: was just. 1541 01:06:14,920 --> 01:06:17,760 Speaker 4: Like one of the few bad guys. He was so true, 1542 01:06:17,920 --> 01:06:20,520 Speaker 4: made his way through the locker room. And I don't 1543 01:06:20,520 --> 01:06:22,120 Speaker 4: know what he's like in real life, but in the 1544 01:06:22,160 --> 01:06:25,400 Speaker 4: locker room he went out of his way to be unfriendly. 1545 01:06:24,920 --> 01:06:29,560 Speaker 2: And like really now confrontations. Yeah, yeah, but I heard 1546 01:06:29,640 --> 01:06:32,000 Speaker 2: off the field like he's coached. He's coaching football. Can 1547 01:06:32,120 --> 01:06:34,720 Speaker 2: tell you he seems like people like him. But oh 1548 01:06:34,760 --> 01:06:37,120 Speaker 2: he was mean to us and just out of his 1549 01:06:37,200 --> 01:06:37,960 Speaker 2: way to be mean. 1550 01:06:38,280 --> 01:06:40,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, and not just it wasn't like an US thing. 1551 01:06:40,800 --> 01:06:42,640 Speaker 5: It was not for everybody, everybody. 1552 01:06:42,880 --> 01:06:44,840 Speaker 8: He must have been especially happy after everyone was blaming 1553 01:06:44,880 --> 01:06:46,960 Speaker 8: him for tipping the signals and what the twenty was 1554 01:06:46,960 --> 01:06:50,360 Speaker 8: it the twenty fifteen or twenty thirteen ANFC championship game 1555 01:06:50,360 --> 01:06:52,600 Speaker 8: where they said von Miller was getting off the ball 1556 01:06:52,640 --> 01:06:54,320 Speaker 8: in like zero point five seconds. 1557 01:06:54,040 --> 01:06:55,880 Speaker 5: Because they seem to know that the snapcount. 1558 01:06:56,080 --> 01:06:58,320 Speaker 2: You know another guy who like was mean to some 1559 01:06:58,440 --> 01:07:01,560 Speaker 2: people but was really nice was with Ferrick Colins. Remember 1560 01:07:01,640 --> 01:07:03,560 Speaker 2: him who it might have been before you. 1561 01:07:03,880 --> 01:07:05,040 Speaker 4: Ferrick Collins was mean to me? 1562 01:07:05,240 --> 01:07:07,240 Speaker 2: Oh he was mean to you. Yeah, Oh he was 1563 01:07:07,320 --> 01:07:07,840 Speaker 2: nice to me. 1564 01:07:08,000 --> 01:07:09,080 Speaker 4: He was very mean to me. 1565 01:07:09,240 --> 01:07:10,320 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1566 01:07:10,760 --> 01:07:11,960 Speaker 4: He was a defensive lineman. 1567 01:07:12,360 --> 01:07:15,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, how is he mean to you? 1568 01:07:15,520 --> 01:07:20,800 Speaker 4: Told me to hall ass Well, he done that. 1569 01:07:21,560 --> 01:07:23,160 Speaker 5: It's funny because usually. 1570 01:07:23,040 --> 01:07:24,600 Speaker 2: Remember him talking about Ed Duckworth. 1571 01:07:25,440 --> 01:07:28,640 Speaker 4: It just came out of his neck. That was Henry Thomas. 1572 01:07:29,240 --> 01:07:31,920 Speaker 2: No I think that was. But anyway, Ed Duckworth like 1573 01:07:31,960 --> 01:07:35,120 Speaker 2: this old time scribe, like the old krusty guy, and 1574 01:07:35,160 --> 01:07:36,240 Speaker 2: he smokes cigarettes. 1575 01:07:36,520 --> 01:07:38,919 Speaker 4: He's the one that Doug dug Mesunshine dot com. 1576 01:07:39,440 --> 01:07:41,680 Speaker 2: All he would do was smoke cigarettes and drink coffee. 1577 01:07:41,920 --> 01:07:47,560 Speaker 2: So like his breath, he's like, damn that guy's breast, 1578 01:07:47,600 --> 01:07:50,960 Speaker 2: it stinks. It comes out of his neck. It's that's awful. 1579 01:07:51,880 --> 01:07:52,240 Speaker 2: It was. 1580 01:07:53,000 --> 01:07:55,800 Speaker 8: What's funny because I always feel like offensive linemen are 1581 01:07:55,880 --> 01:08:00,080 Speaker 8: generally like some of the most talkative, friendly, amiable players. 1582 01:07:59,760 --> 01:08:01,520 Speaker 5: In the locker room. You know Doctor Z. 1583 01:08:01,680 --> 01:08:03,400 Speaker 8: One of Doctor Z's book that he wrote, he's like, 1584 01:08:03,400 --> 01:08:04,880 Speaker 8: always go talk to the offensive lineman. 1585 01:08:05,080 --> 01:08:06,040 Speaker 5: They know what's going on. 1586 01:08:06,320 --> 01:08:09,120 Speaker 8: They're always usually happy to talk to you. But I 1587 01:08:09,160 --> 01:08:10,360 Speaker 8: guess barn Struck was the exception. 1588 01:08:11,480 --> 01:08:14,480 Speaker 2: Eric in New Hampshire. Erica in New Hampshire writes in 1589 01:08:14,680 --> 01:08:19,160 Speaker 2: New Listener, First time email. My boyfriend's been listening for 1590 01:08:19,200 --> 01:08:21,400 Speaker 2: a while and he's a huge fan. Well, thanks, excellent. 1591 01:08:21,439 --> 01:08:26,360 Speaker 2: I'm calling out Sean from Pennsylvania, So first, Godler, immediately 1592 01:08:26,520 --> 01:08:30,640 Speaker 2: listen crime. I love it calling out Sean and Pennsylvania 1593 01:08:30,760 --> 01:08:35,000 Speaker 2: for his too much Julian Edelman take from Tuesday's episode Respectfully, Sean, 1594 01:08:35,479 --> 01:08:38,200 Speaker 2: there actually wasn't enough Julian Edelman in episode two of 1595 01:08:38,240 --> 01:08:40,960 Speaker 2: Forge in Foxborough. They should put him more of him 1596 01:08:40,960 --> 01:08:43,240 Speaker 2: in Actually, you can replay his catch from Super Bowl 1597 01:08:43,320 --> 01:08:45,439 Speaker 2: fifty one for forty five minutes. For all I care 1598 01:08:45,840 --> 01:08:49,280 Speaker 2: played all twelve season with New England, retired a Patriot, 1599 01:08:49,560 --> 01:08:51,800 Speaker 2: was inducted in the Patriots Hall of Fame. What more 1600 01:08:51,840 --> 01:08:53,240 Speaker 2: can you ask for from the guy? 1601 01:08:53,360 --> 01:08:56,320 Speaker 4: I'm with? Sean? Yeah, to be honest with you, I'm 1602 01:08:56,320 --> 01:08:56,759 Speaker 4: with Sean. 1603 01:08:57,000 --> 01:08:59,040 Speaker 10: Can we show like the cam Chancellor won a little 1604 01:08:59,040 --> 01:09:01,559 Speaker 10: bit more like fifty one catch is awesome too, But 1605 01:09:01,640 --> 01:09:04,320 Speaker 10: like the forty nine catches maybe just as good, and 1606 01:09:05,080 --> 01:09:07,680 Speaker 10: that he gets his bell rung by Cam Chancellor and 1607 01:09:07,840 --> 01:09:10,360 Speaker 10: just like hangs onto the ball and like, I feel 1608 01:09:10,360 --> 01:09:11,280 Speaker 10: like that's a great catch too. 1609 01:09:11,280 --> 01:09:12,200 Speaker 11: It doesn't give enough flow. 1610 01:09:12,360 --> 01:09:16,160 Speaker 8: You could probably easily make a video Top ten Julian 1611 01:09:16,240 --> 01:09:18,679 Speaker 8: Edelman third down catches in the playoffs, like. 1612 01:09:18,680 --> 01:09:20,240 Speaker 11: Just simply that in Kansas City. 1613 01:09:20,360 --> 01:09:22,400 Speaker 5: Just I mean there's there's easily ten of them. I 1614 01:09:22,439 --> 01:09:23,680 Speaker 5: mean I can think like five of them right at 1615 01:09:23,680 --> 01:09:24,080 Speaker 5: the top of them. 1616 01:09:24,120 --> 01:09:26,519 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I just think that, like we're, you know, 1617 01:09:26,760 --> 01:09:29,400 Speaker 4: the there's two ways of looking at it. We're trying 1618 01:09:29,439 --> 01:09:31,960 Speaker 4: to do some stuff, and I understand, we get you know, 1619 01:09:33,160 --> 01:09:36,519 Speaker 4: we're listening to everybody's voice that's talking with the team. 1620 01:09:36,560 --> 01:09:39,920 Speaker 4: This is about this team. This is about twenty twenty five. Yeah, 1621 01:09:40,000 --> 01:09:41,880 Speaker 4: So I don't need to see like his catch in 1622 01:09:41,960 --> 01:09:43,120 Speaker 4: Super Bowl fifty one. 1623 01:09:43,280 --> 01:09:44,439 Speaker 5: Yeah, you were there. 1624 01:09:44,479 --> 01:09:45,759 Speaker 2: Oh I think that was fine. 1625 01:09:45,880 --> 01:09:49,200 Speaker 4: No, no, no, I'm not talking about the documentary like 1626 01:09:49,280 --> 01:09:54,040 Speaker 4: the fight back on Sean here, like yeah, like I mean, 1627 01:09:54,080 --> 01:09:56,920 Speaker 4: should we have Tom Brady on too, Like yeah, I 1628 01:09:57,000 --> 01:10:00,160 Speaker 4: want to know, I mean, at least with Brady. In fairness, 1629 01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:02,839 Speaker 4: as I'm correcting myself, he played, he played with Babel. 1630 01:10:04,720 --> 01:10:07,080 Speaker 2: I don't know. We've had walk We've had greatness walk 1631 01:10:07,160 --> 01:10:09,840 Speaker 2: through this building and achieved great things. And I think 1632 01:10:09,880 --> 01:10:14,040 Speaker 2: it's to hear their comments, and I think it's always 1633 01:10:14,560 --> 01:10:18,160 Speaker 2: something that we shouldn't forget about. I don't know, choose 1634 01:10:18,160 --> 01:10:25,080 Speaker 2: a draw. Let's see who's this dinner plates? He calls himself. Wow, 1635 01:10:25,680 --> 01:10:26,639 Speaker 2: Mike is big. 1636 01:10:26,960 --> 01:10:27,240 Speaker 12: Not you. 1637 01:10:28,080 --> 01:10:31,320 Speaker 2: When the desk couldn't contain him, he made you guys 1638 01:10:31,360 --> 01:10:35,639 Speaker 2: look like us, even the pre twenty twenty five two 1639 01:10:35,680 --> 01:10:38,160 Speaker 2: liter before picture Paul would be a snack to him. 1640 01:10:38,640 --> 01:10:40,880 Speaker 2: I don't mean this in a derogatory way, but he's 1641 01:10:40,920 --> 01:10:42,520 Speaker 2: like a thoroughbrid Clydesdale. 1642 01:10:43,080 --> 01:10:44,719 Speaker 5: He's actually an NFL offensive linemans. 1643 01:10:46,040 --> 01:10:47,040 Speaker 2: He's the name big Mike. 1644 01:10:47,680 --> 01:10:49,080 Speaker 11: He's the biggest one. 1645 01:10:49,640 --> 01:10:52,240 Speaker 10: He's the widest probably, but like in terms of like, 1646 01:10:52,400 --> 01:10:53,760 Speaker 10: like Morgan is bigger guy. 1647 01:10:53,800 --> 01:10:56,080 Speaker 5: I put a put the other rookie on there. What's 1648 01:10:56,120 --> 01:10:56,479 Speaker 5: his name? 1649 01:10:56,600 --> 01:11:00,760 Speaker 8: Marcus Bryant monster six eight h yeah. 1650 01:11:01,040 --> 01:11:04,400 Speaker 2: Uh, let's get back to the hotline. Shawn's in Virginia. Hey, Sean, 1651 01:11:06,360 --> 01:11:07,840 Speaker 2: how you guys doing okay? 1652 01:11:09,280 --> 01:11:09,880 Speaker 4: Good good? 1653 01:11:10,280 --> 01:11:12,240 Speaker 12: That's one of the fall as Paul far when it 1654 01:11:12,280 --> 01:11:14,679 Speaker 12: comes to the level of operism. I think that's reason 1655 01:11:14,800 --> 01:11:17,640 Speaker 12: for great operaism because I think from you back there 1656 01:11:17,960 --> 01:11:20,519 Speaker 12: that uh, if they can get great uh you know, uh, 1657 01:11:20,760 --> 01:11:22,719 Speaker 12: they at least they can have a great confident offense. 1658 01:11:24,000 --> 01:11:26,080 Speaker 12: I think that can a lot of defense get more 1659 01:11:26,280 --> 01:11:27,920 Speaker 12: much more breath because I think the thing that goes 1660 01:11:27,960 --> 01:11:30,960 Speaker 12: under the radar, the resonance the defense. 1661 01:11:30,800 --> 01:11:33,439 Speaker 9: Been bad over the years or whatever, because they spend 1662 01:11:33,520 --> 01:11:34,559 Speaker 9: too much time on the field. 1663 01:11:34,640 --> 01:11:36,559 Speaker 12: At least when you're gonna have Brady had a competent 1664 01:11:36,640 --> 01:11:38,800 Speaker 12: offense or whatever he was able to kill on the 1665 01:11:38,800 --> 01:11:40,840 Speaker 12: field or to off the field for some time, whatever, 1666 01:11:41,280 --> 01:11:43,280 Speaker 12: But they tell you in recent years they haven't ready 1667 01:11:43,280 --> 01:11:45,680 Speaker 12: gotten that at top. I think that if they can 1668 01:11:45,720 --> 01:11:47,760 Speaker 12: get that this year, I think that I could win 1669 01:11:47,800 --> 01:11:49,400 Speaker 12: eleven for that just. 1670 01:11:49,400 --> 01:11:53,840 Speaker 10: Means okay, thanks sean complimentary football on all three phases 1671 01:11:53,880 --> 01:11:54,920 Speaker 10: to help each other out. 1672 01:11:55,040 --> 01:11:57,719 Speaker 2: Parcels used to say, it's giving each other hope. Yeah, 1673 01:11:57,840 --> 01:12:00,040 Speaker 2: you know, the defense gives the offense hope and the 1674 01:12:00,080 --> 01:12:01,599 Speaker 2: offense gives the defense hope. 1675 01:12:01,800 --> 01:12:04,160 Speaker 8: I agree, both sides need to improve on that from 1676 01:12:04,240 --> 01:12:06,040 Speaker 8: last year. The offense needs to give it over the less, 1677 01:12:06,040 --> 01:12:08,759 Speaker 8: the defense needs to turn it over more and feed 1678 01:12:08,760 --> 01:12:09,960 Speaker 8: into everything that Sean just said. 1679 01:12:10,040 --> 01:12:11,479 Speaker 11: Yea, and the punts. You know you got to have 1680 01:12:11,520 --> 01:12:15,200 Speaker 11: the punts be good. Yeah, got field position. 1681 01:12:15,320 --> 01:12:17,920 Speaker 2: Now ye have the other teams defense tired in the 1682 01:12:17,920 --> 01:12:24,640 Speaker 2: fourth quarter? Not yours, Sam's and San Francisco. What's up? Sam? 1683 01:12:24,680 --> 01:12:28,679 Speaker 13: Thank guys. A quick question here about the running backs. 1684 01:12:28,720 --> 01:12:31,439 Speaker 13: I know it's hard to gauge when they're not in 1685 01:12:31,560 --> 01:12:36,080 Speaker 13: pat but I really thought Antonio Gibson, I'll played Ramande 1686 01:12:36,400 --> 01:12:38,840 Speaker 13: for most of the latter part of last year. I 1687 01:12:38,840 --> 01:12:41,760 Speaker 13: thought he really should have got more touches. But do 1688 01:12:41,800 --> 01:12:44,439 Speaker 13: you think we're holding jig? We got four guys on 1689 01:12:44,520 --> 01:12:47,640 Speaker 13: the on the roster, now we keep three and then 1690 01:12:47,680 --> 01:12:50,639 Speaker 13: we got the rookie with subdues everyone's been talking about. 1691 01:12:50,640 --> 01:12:52,240 Speaker 13: But what what do you guys think. 1692 01:12:52,080 --> 01:12:52,600 Speaker 12: The plan is? 1693 01:12:56,200 --> 01:12:57,000 Speaker 2: Think of Brandon? 1694 01:12:57,600 --> 01:13:00,479 Speaker 4: What the plan is? The plan is what I mean 1695 01:13:01,200 --> 01:13:03,120 Speaker 4: with all the running, I'm not sure what we're talking about. 1696 01:13:03,120 --> 01:13:05,439 Speaker 4: The running. It's like six running, seven running backs of 1697 01:13:05,560 --> 01:13:06,240 Speaker 4: something like on the. 1698 01:13:06,240 --> 01:13:08,519 Speaker 5: Roster, right, I mean if you count Lampy, I. 1699 01:13:08,439 --> 01:13:10,800 Speaker 4: Would count them all. Like if we're going to say 1700 01:13:10,840 --> 01:13:12,920 Speaker 4: they're on the roster, I mean, for some reason we 1701 01:13:12,960 --> 01:13:15,439 Speaker 4: say that they have a crowded wide receiver room right 1702 01:13:15,960 --> 01:13:17,479 Speaker 4: if we're going to count them all that are on 1703 01:13:17,520 --> 01:13:21,599 Speaker 4: the roster, I know, like Terrell Jennings should count, Lan 1704 01:13:21,720 --> 01:13:26,280 Speaker 4: Larison should count, Antonio Gibson and both Trevion's should count. 1705 01:13:26,600 --> 01:13:28,840 Speaker 11: There's three running backs on the roster, maybe four. 1706 01:13:29,400 --> 01:13:32,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think you're trying to decide does does EV's 1707 01:13:32,960 --> 01:13:36,880 Speaker 4: boy Lampy count in the group? Is that three plus 1708 01:13:36,880 --> 01:13:37,439 Speaker 4: a fullback? 1709 01:13:37,560 --> 01:13:38,519 Speaker 11: He counts? With the tight end? 1710 01:13:38,840 --> 01:13:41,600 Speaker 4: Does he count as three plus a full back? Or 1711 01:13:41,640 --> 01:13:45,360 Speaker 4: does he count or does he not have a job? 1712 01:13:45,479 --> 01:13:48,120 Speaker 4: And then you have to add a tight end. There's 1713 01:13:48,120 --> 01:13:51,240 Speaker 4: a lot of different ways that you can build a roster, 1714 01:13:51,840 --> 01:13:53,640 Speaker 4: and I think it's way too early to try to. 1715 01:13:53,640 --> 01:13:55,960 Speaker 2: You know, the wide receivers get the attention. But there's 1716 01:13:56,040 --> 01:13:58,120 Speaker 2: ninety one guys in the team right now. All the 1717 01:13:58,200 --> 01:13:59,120 Speaker 2: rooms is crowded. 1718 01:14:00,400 --> 01:14:03,479 Speaker 4: Yeah, and every team around the league has roughly the 1719 01:14:03,479 --> 01:14:07,160 Speaker 4: same amount of players at each position group because it's 1720 01:14:07,240 --> 01:14:09,040 Speaker 4: kind of like paint by numbers. This is what you 1721 01:14:09,080 --> 01:14:11,240 Speaker 4: do as an NFL. You have a lot of offensive linemen. 1722 01:14:12,080 --> 01:14:14,479 Speaker 4: You know, you have a lot of wide receivers. Wide 1723 01:14:14,520 --> 01:14:17,639 Speaker 4: receivers you need because they run more than anybody else. 1724 01:14:17,720 --> 01:14:19,840 Speaker 4: During the course of a practice and you can't just 1725 01:14:20,479 --> 01:14:22,599 Speaker 4: like grind them into the ground. It's almost like pictures 1726 01:14:22,640 --> 01:14:25,759 Speaker 4: in baseball, like not the same guys can throw batting 1727 01:14:25,760 --> 01:14:28,960 Speaker 4: practice every day, Like you got to have different arms, 1728 01:14:29,000 --> 01:14:31,240 Speaker 4: and you have to have receivers that are fresh, right, 1729 01:14:31,320 --> 01:14:33,360 Speaker 4: like guy John Giles still continues to show up. 1730 01:14:33,360 --> 01:14:36,000 Speaker 10: I would say that they have three running backs right 1731 01:14:36,040 --> 01:14:38,800 Speaker 10: now that are pretty near locks. I mean, obviously Stevenson 1732 01:14:38,880 --> 01:14:41,240 Speaker 10: and Trevon Henderson are locks, but I would also put 1733 01:14:41,280 --> 01:14:45,880 Speaker 10: Antonio Gibson pretty comfortably on the roster right now. I 1734 01:14:45,880 --> 01:14:48,000 Speaker 10: think big picture of the plan is to have Stevenson 1735 01:14:48,040 --> 01:14:51,200 Speaker 10: and Henderson be like this lightning, thunder and lightning combination. 1736 01:14:51,320 --> 01:14:54,320 Speaker 10: They're very complimentary but gives them to the caller's point 1737 01:14:54,320 --> 01:14:57,720 Speaker 10: that you had a very productive season on a per 1738 01:14:57,840 --> 01:15:01,080 Speaker 10: carry basis last year, and all the advanced metrics loved 1739 01:15:01,080 --> 01:15:02,320 Speaker 10: Antonio Gibson last year. 1740 01:15:02,360 --> 01:15:03,839 Speaker 11: You yards after content didn't. 1741 01:15:03,640 --> 01:15:06,519 Speaker 4: Play well at times. See that's an example, like you know, 1742 01:15:06,600 --> 01:15:08,840 Speaker 4: individually you can still play well even when you're in 1743 01:15:08,840 --> 01:15:11,040 Speaker 4: the midst of a bad season. I thought Gibson played 1744 01:15:11,040 --> 01:15:13,599 Speaker 4: better than Stevenson right just the caller said me too. 1745 01:15:13,640 --> 01:15:15,559 Speaker 5: I think it's a great room right now. 1746 01:15:15,600 --> 01:15:18,360 Speaker 4: The balance that you have with the rookie with a veteran, 1747 01:15:18,520 --> 01:15:20,599 Speaker 4: with Stevenson being hopefully the guy that. 1748 01:15:21,200 --> 01:15:23,360 Speaker 5: Kind of be the bell cow back, it's good. It's 1749 01:15:23,360 --> 01:15:24,000 Speaker 5: a really good mix. 1750 01:15:24,040 --> 01:15:25,400 Speaker 8: And we'll see if any of these other guys, I 1751 01:15:25,400 --> 01:15:27,200 Speaker 8: mean Landlairs can he land on the practice squatter? 1752 01:15:27,240 --> 01:15:29,760 Speaker 5: You know, we'd like Terrell Jennings last year. He's still 1753 01:15:29,760 --> 01:15:30,439 Speaker 5: around kicking. 1754 01:15:30,520 --> 01:15:32,960 Speaker 10: So yeah, Land Harrison is the one, like the one 1755 01:15:33,000 --> 01:15:34,880 Speaker 10: guy that I think is a wild card in terms 1756 01:15:34,960 --> 01:15:37,080 Speaker 10: of you know, he had but he has to make 1757 01:15:37,120 --> 01:15:40,160 Speaker 10: the roster, like they don't have to carry four running backs. 1758 01:15:40,640 --> 01:15:42,519 Speaker 10: So if he's going to make the roster, it's going 1759 01:15:42,600 --> 01:15:44,559 Speaker 10: to be because he's so good that they can't kind 1760 01:15:44,560 --> 01:15:45,320 Speaker 10: of tear. 1761 01:15:45,160 --> 01:15:45,959 Speaker 5: It up in the preseason. 1762 01:15:46,000 --> 01:15:51,960 Speaker 2: Right all right, Christian in La, what do you got? Well, 1763 01:15:52,200 --> 01:15:53,800 Speaker 2: what I have is there? We go. 1764 01:15:54,040 --> 01:15:56,800 Speaker 9: Thank you guy for having me on the picture show 1765 01:15:57,200 --> 01:16:00,719 Speaker 9: there the day. But I wanted to like my ire 1766 01:16:01,240 --> 01:16:05,960 Speaker 9: at Paul for saying I tried too hard. You guys 1767 01:16:05,960 --> 01:16:10,240 Speaker 9: had a guy with a cello, a guy Paul with 1768 01:16:10,360 --> 01:16:13,679 Speaker 9: a dog. Then you had a guy in a firement 1769 01:16:13,840 --> 01:16:17,880 Speaker 9: outfit and I'm sitting in my cars he's looking at 1770 01:16:17,880 --> 01:16:20,679 Speaker 9: the camera taking a selfie and Paul did I tried too. 1771 01:16:20,520 --> 01:16:25,719 Speaker 8: Hard, Christian, you have a great jawline. 1772 01:16:25,760 --> 01:16:26,920 Speaker 5: I was impressed by the John. 1773 01:16:27,320 --> 01:16:30,479 Speaker 4: Yes, I don't think anybody else had a studio quality 1774 01:16:30,680 --> 01:16:32,200 Speaker 4: photo sent in like you. 1775 01:16:33,680 --> 01:16:35,880 Speaker 12: I went to the car taking a selfie. 1776 01:16:36,360 --> 01:16:37,880 Speaker 4: Put together your outfit for you. 1777 01:16:39,160 --> 01:16:40,240 Speaker 12: It was a Lulu. 1778 01:16:43,000 --> 01:16:51,000 Speaker 9: Crying too hard and there we have it, drinking the 1779 01:16:51,040 --> 01:16:53,320 Speaker 9: hater and I think you have IP in it, and 1780 01:16:53,360 --> 01:16:57,000 Speaker 9: you probably have a shot of something in it. Off 1781 01:16:57,040 --> 01:17:01,639 Speaker 9: of football, yes, sir, let's you guys. Dog of you guys. 1782 01:17:02,640 --> 01:17:05,519 Speaker 9: So yesterday, I've read at the end that we had 1783 01:17:05,960 --> 01:17:09,800 Speaker 9: four of the fifty fifty most important off season move 1784 01:17:11,200 --> 01:17:16,120 Speaker 9: the cornerback Carlton, David Milton, that we got Stefan Diggs 1785 01:17:16,200 --> 01:17:19,880 Speaker 9: and then Kyle Williams. They listed those for the most important. 1786 01:17:20,360 --> 01:17:23,320 Speaker 9: For the fourth and fiftieth four of the fifty most 1787 01:17:23,320 --> 01:17:26,920 Speaker 9: important off season move, we had four Patriots on it. 1788 01:17:27,600 --> 01:17:29,840 Speaker 9: That kind of says what the league is expecting of. 1789 01:17:29,840 --> 01:17:32,519 Speaker 6: Us, right, not real. 1790 01:17:32,600 --> 01:17:35,080 Speaker 2: We could also say that we had more needs than 1791 01:17:35,120 --> 01:17:36,080 Speaker 2: a lot of other teams. 1792 01:17:36,160 --> 01:17:37,120 Speaker 4: That's what it says to me. 1793 01:17:37,280 --> 01:17:40,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, but I would I would as the most 1794 01:17:40,960 --> 01:17:42,240 Speaker 2: important offseason. 1795 01:17:42,240 --> 01:17:45,040 Speaker 11: I mean, this is just like personnel roster, yeah, per 1796 01:17:45,160 --> 01:17:46,320 Speaker 11: no players. 1797 01:17:46,000 --> 01:17:47,559 Speaker 2: Yeah, so it was just players. 1798 01:17:47,840 --> 01:17:48,040 Speaker 4: Yeah. 1799 01:17:49,320 --> 01:17:52,240 Speaker 9: My second question for you guys is this on Will Campbell, 1800 01:17:53,120 --> 01:17:55,679 Speaker 9: it seems like what it seemed like he would want 1801 01:17:55,680 --> 01:17:58,960 Speaker 9: to be closer to his defender since he has like 1802 01:17:59,000 --> 01:18:00,920 Speaker 9: a sort of short arm prop and that would show 1803 01:18:01,000 --> 01:18:03,920 Speaker 9: up if there's more state between them, right, guys can 1804 01:18:03,920 --> 01:18:06,400 Speaker 9: get around, So shouldn't he line up close to the 1805 01:18:06,439 --> 01:18:07,160 Speaker 9: line in general? 1806 01:18:09,240 --> 01:18:13,200 Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know about that, but typically speaking, 1807 01:18:13,240 --> 01:18:15,160 Speaker 2: I just thought he was a little bit further back 1808 01:18:15,200 --> 01:18:17,200 Speaker 2: than he should have been. But again it could be 1809 01:18:17,240 --> 01:18:18,639 Speaker 2: an angle thing. Thanks Christian. 1810 01:18:18,720 --> 01:18:21,639 Speaker 10: Yeah, typically speaking, guys that are a little bit undersize 1811 01:18:21,640 --> 01:18:24,080 Speaker 10: are more aggressive. You know, they want to they want 1812 01:18:24,080 --> 01:18:26,000 Speaker 10: to go get you instead of waiting for you to 1813 01:18:26,040 --> 01:18:28,360 Speaker 10: come back. If you're Trent Brown, you can sit back 1814 01:18:28,400 --> 01:18:30,840 Speaker 10: in your chair and wait and just you know, make 1815 01:18:30,880 --> 01:18:32,720 Speaker 10: guys go through you. But when you're a guy like 1816 01:18:32,760 --> 01:18:35,800 Speaker 10: Will Campbell, you want to be more aggressive and be 1817 01:18:35,880 --> 01:18:37,759 Speaker 10: the one initiating the contact exactly. 1818 01:18:37,800 --> 01:18:39,360 Speaker 11: So he's right about. 1819 01:18:39,160 --> 01:18:42,280 Speaker 10: That, but often, you know, I was expecting Will Campbell 1820 01:18:42,320 --> 01:18:45,240 Speaker 10: to have some things going on with his stance because 1821 01:18:45,240 --> 01:18:48,240 Speaker 10: his stance in college was a little unorthodox. He never 1822 01:18:48,280 --> 01:18:50,080 Speaker 10: really was in a three point stance because they were 1823 01:18:50,120 --> 01:18:52,599 Speaker 10: a gun offense and they never really had a need 1824 01:18:52,640 --> 01:18:55,320 Speaker 10: for three point stance. So there's some things in a 1825 01:18:55,360 --> 01:18:57,439 Speaker 10: pro style system that might be a little bit different 1826 01:18:57,479 --> 01:18:57,840 Speaker 10: for him. 1827 01:18:58,200 --> 01:19:00,920 Speaker 8: I came across on Instagram some high school highlights of 1828 01:19:00,960 --> 01:19:03,000 Speaker 8: Will Campbell. It's just like a camp where he was 1829 01:19:03,280 --> 01:19:06,280 Speaker 8: doing drills, no pads, no helmet anything, just you've all 1830 01:19:06,320 --> 01:19:09,479 Speaker 8: seen those drills and man throwing guys to the ground, 1831 01:19:09,840 --> 01:19:12,720 Speaker 8: standing in guys faces. I mean, he was not intimidated 1832 01:19:12,720 --> 01:19:15,000 Speaker 8: in the least by anybody. And I know it's high 1833 01:19:15,000 --> 01:19:16,840 Speaker 8: school and now he's in the NFL, so clearly he 1834 01:19:16,960 --> 01:19:18,800 Speaker 8: was an elite talent at that level. But it's just 1835 01:19:18,840 --> 01:19:21,879 Speaker 8: fun to see little Will Campbell, you know, as a youngster, 1836 01:19:22,320 --> 01:19:24,720 Speaker 8: still playing with that same attitude that we saw out 1837 01:19:24,720 --> 01:19:25,519 Speaker 8: of him at LSU. 1838 01:19:25,920 --> 01:19:29,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, So if there was if the question was asked, 1839 01:19:29,960 --> 01:19:32,799 Speaker 2: what's the one thing that's a you know, an obvious 1840 01:19:32,880 --> 01:19:36,720 Speaker 2: question going into this season that you're most confident about 1841 01:19:37,280 --> 01:19:40,519 Speaker 2: having a positive answer eventually? To me, it's Will Campbell. 1842 01:19:41,720 --> 01:19:43,439 Speaker 4: I mean, for right now, I'm feeling pretty high on 1843 01:19:43,560 --> 01:19:46,479 Speaker 4: Drake May's development, you know. I mean, I don't want 1844 01:19:46,479 --> 01:19:48,599 Speaker 4: to overstate it because it's so important and it's so 1845 01:19:48,760 --> 01:19:50,320 Speaker 4: hard to do. And I'm sure even if he has 1846 01:19:50,360 --> 01:19:51,920 Speaker 4: a great season and you know, gets off to a 1847 01:19:51,960 --> 01:19:53,880 Speaker 4: great start, there's still going to be some ups and 1848 01:19:53,920 --> 01:19:56,760 Speaker 4: downs for him. But it all starts and ends for him. 1849 01:19:56,760 --> 01:19:58,439 Speaker 4: And right now I feel positive on him. And if 1850 01:19:58,680 --> 01:20:00,320 Speaker 4: that works out, then I don't know how how much 1851 01:20:00,439 --> 01:20:00,880 Speaker 4: the rest of it. 1852 01:20:01,040 --> 01:20:03,040 Speaker 2: What are the things that we're most concerned about, Well, 1853 01:20:03,160 --> 01:20:06,439 Speaker 2: the wide receivers, Like are they going to have pick that? Okay, 1854 01:20:06,479 --> 01:20:08,120 Speaker 2: that's a good one too. I mean, like you think 1855 01:20:08,120 --> 01:20:08,960 Speaker 2: it's gonna work out. 1856 01:20:08,920 --> 01:20:11,400 Speaker 4: It'll be okay because I think Diggs looks like he's 1857 01:20:11,640 --> 01:20:14,600 Speaker 4: pretty comfortable. He's gonna be pretty healthy week one. You 1858 01:20:14,640 --> 01:20:16,800 Speaker 4: so you're gonna have that guy that slots everybody else. 1859 01:20:16,920 --> 01:20:19,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, but there's a lot you know, Milton Williams, will 1860 01:20:19,680 --> 01:20:21,200 Speaker 2: he be able to play full time? 1861 01:20:21,560 --> 01:20:23,000 Speaker 4: You know, because I don't know if that's a I 1862 01:20:23,040 --> 01:20:23,439 Speaker 4: don't know. 1863 01:20:24,040 --> 01:20:25,719 Speaker 2: It's a question. Yeah, it's a question. 1864 01:20:25,840 --> 01:20:28,160 Speaker 8: Yeah that that that isn't a top my list. I 1865 01:20:28,160 --> 01:20:30,320 Speaker 8: mean I think I think he wants to. And then 1866 01:20:30,360 --> 01:20:32,400 Speaker 8: the fact that you have Barn wore there. It's not 1867 01:20:32,439 --> 01:20:34,120 Speaker 8: like it's Milton Williams or bust. So you have a 1868 01:20:34,120 --> 01:20:36,800 Speaker 8: good guy to have a rotation. You'll always have someone 1869 01:20:36,840 --> 01:20:40,679 Speaker 8: who can have an interior presence like that. But I know, Paul, 1870 01:20:40,680 --> 01:20:43,200 Speaker 8: would you say, is Stefan Digs a number one? 1871 01:20:44,040 --> 01:20:44,280 Speaker 4: Yes? 1872 01:20:44,960 --> 01:20:45,639 Speaker 11: Is he a weapon? 1873 01:20:47,240 --> 01:20:50,679 Speaker 4: Yes? Oh yeah, I mean I'm sorry, a guy who 1874 01:20:50,720 --> 01:20:55,560 Speaker 4: has like fifteen hundred yard seasons is yes, it is 1875 01:20:55,600 --> 01:21:01,040 Speaker 4: a weapon. He is absolutely a weapon for this offense. 1876 01:21:01,080 --> 01:21:04,360 Speaker 4: He's without question the number one receiver and a weapon. 1877 01:21:05,600 --> 01:21:07,800 Speaker 4: Now you could get into paul semantics. If he's a 1878 01:21:07,880 --> 01:21:09,800 Speaker 4: number one or any other team at this stage in 1879 01:21:09,840 --> 01:21:14,040 Speaker 4: his career, doesn't matter. He's a patriot. No, but come on, 1880 01:21:14,120 --> 01:21:18,160 Speaker 4: he's a number one. I'm I'm not being stupid, am I? 1881 01:21:18,200 --> 01:21:20,400 Speaker 4: But I think in relation to that though, it's really 1882 01:21:20,479 --> 01:21:23,000 Speaker 4: as I said earlier with Williams and Booty, like how 1883 01:21:23,080 --> 01:21:25,200 Speaker 4: much of those guys contribute? Does Booty take another step? 1884 01:21:25,240 --> 01:21:27,760 Speaker 4: Does Williams really blossom? And then you know, maybe you 1885 01:21:27,800 --> 01:21:30,560 Speaker 4: do find a complimentary piece to it. And an observation 1886 01:21:30,600 --> 01:21:33,800 Speaker 4: about Booty he's a slow starter. I don't notice him 1887 01:21:33,800 --> 01:21:35,639 Speaker 4: early in campag this is three years in a row. 1888 01:21:35,680 --> 01:21:39,240 Speaker 4: I haven't the first pass he's I mean, he's out there. 1889 01:21:39,320 --> 01:21:43,599 Speaker 4: He starts with with Diggs in Douglas and I don't 1890 01:21:43,680 --> 01:21:45,600 Speaker 4: see him as much as I see other guys. Do 1891 01:21:45,600 --> 01:21:48,280 Speaker 4: you think it part of it is that that outside role, 1892 01:21:48,400 --> 01:21:52,120 Speaker 4: but I have him play is about goes and comebacks 1893 01:21:52,160 --> 01:21:54,000 Speaker 4: and not get a lot. 1894 01:21:53,800 --> 01:21:55,839 Speaker 11: Of targets that as the X and Joshua. 1895 01:21:58,400 --> 01:22:01,040 Speaker 4: But like I kind of agree Mike, I thought that 1896 01:22:01,080 --> 01:22:05,120 Speaker 4: Williams looked like he was in that role. Yeah when 1897 01:22:05,160 --> 01:22:07,680 Speaker 4: he comes in, Yeah, most and he's gotten some you know, 1898 01:22:07,680 --> 01:22:09,439 Speaker 4: maybe they want to target him. Maybe it's one of 1899 01:22:09,479 --> 01:22:11,559 Speaker 4: those deals. I don't, Yeah, I just. 1900 01:22:13,160 --> 01:22:15,599 Speaker 10: You know, with McDaniel's I think the term that gets 1901 01:22:15,680 --> 01:22:17,800 Speaker 10: used a lot as the sacrificial X, and it's like 1902 01:22:17,880 --> 01:22:20,920 Speaker 10: you're just there to take to occupy the safety and 1903 01:22:21,200 --> 01:22:23,519 Speaker 10: put a deep element to it because we're actually trying 1904 01:22:23,520 --> 01:22:25,600 Speaker 10: to throw the ball in other places. 1905 01:22:25,640 --> 01:22:28,479 Speaker 11: But I think my biggest concern, just put the team 1906 01:22:28,520 --> 01:22:30,320 Speaker 11: overall right now, is just depth. You know. 1907 01:22:30,400 --> 01:22:33,200 Speaker 10: I think they did a nice job of getting the 1908 01:22:33,240 --> 01:22:36,240 Speaker 10: frontline starters into much better shape than it has been, 1909 01:22:36,240 --> 01:22:37,880 Speaker 10: and I feel a lot better about the top of 1910 01:22:37,920 --> 01:22:40,800 Speaker 10: the roster than I have in recent years. But you 1911 01:22:40,840 --> 01:22:43,639 Speaker 10: start looking at some of the position groups and today 1912 01:22:43,720 --> 01:22:45,920 Speaker 10: with the corners, like you know, Carlon Davis wasn't out 1913 01:22:45,920 --> 01:22:48,200 Speaker 10: there today, and now all of a sudden you have 1914 01:22:48,520 --> 01:22:51,320 Speaker 10: like Alex Austin and Marcella's dial and like those guys 1915 01:22:51,320 --> 01:22:53,120 Speaker 10: are playing a lot, and are they ready for that? 1916 01:22:53,400 --> 01:22:57,320 Speaker 10: You know, at right tackle, if Morgan Moses isn't what 1917 01:22:57,360 --> 01:22:59,920 Speaker 10: we think he is or is hurt, or now Trey J. 1918 01:23:00,080 --> 01:23:02,800 Speaker 10: Cubs is back out there, or it's Cayden Wallace or 1919 01:23:02,840 --> 01:23:06,559 Speaker 10: it's Marcus Bryant, and do they have enough to withstand 1920 01:23:06,600 --> 01:23:08,120 Speaker 10: the injuries that are inevitably. 1921 01:23:08,040 --> 01:23:10,840 Speaker 4: That's my biggest question. But but I thought Fred made 1922 01:23:10,920 --> 01:23:13,160 Speaker 4: a good little twist on that, like what do you 1923 01:23:13,200 --> 01:23:17,680 Speaker 4: feel the best about the questions that will be answered positively? 1924 01:23:18,640 --> 01:23:23,200 Speaker 4: And I think the wide receiver one. You know, I'm 1925 01:23:23,240 --> 01:23:24,960 Speaker 4: not telling you they're going to have to Drake and 1926 01:23:25,000 --> 01:23:27,760 Speaker 4: the wide receiver they're not going to have a great situation. 1927 01:23:30,240 --> 01:23:32,120 Speaker 4: I'm trying to come up with something that's like a 1928 01:23:32,120 --> 01:23:34,800 Speaker 4: major quest, Like the offensive line is a major question. 1929 01:23:36,400 --> 01:23:40,439 Speaker 4: Depth is a major question overall. I don't know how 1930 01:23:40,479 --> 01:23:46,240 Speaker 4: big of a question, you know, Like Milton Williams, can 1931 01:23:46,240 --> 01:23:49,080 Speaker 4: he really play full time. You know. Yeah, I don't know. 1932 01:23:50,320 --> 01:23:52,519 Speaker 4: I don't know if he can or not. But I 1933 01:23:52,520 --> 01:23:55,960 Speaker 4: guess that's a major question. It's hard coming up with 1934 01:23:56,000 --> 01:23:58,479 Speaker 4: one that I definitively think is going to be answered positively. Yeah. 1935 01:23:58,479 --> 01:23:59,880 Speaker 8: I mean I tie all this to kind of what 1936 01:23:59,920 --> 01:24:02,320 Speaker 8: we talked about earlier about the right tackle position, which 1937 01:24:02,360 --> 01:24:05,040 Speaker 8: is I'm trying to hold out some hope that some 1938 01:24:05,120 --> 01:24:07,559 Speaker 8: of these death pieces actually might be able to be 1939 01:24:07,680 --> 01:24:10,040 Speaker 8: solid death pieces and not. You know, this is you 1940 01:24:10,080 --> 01:24:11,880 Speaker 8: got to get through this year and really figure out 1941 01:24:12,040 --> 01:24:14,760 Speaker 8: who the vrabel guys are, who the holdovers are that 1942 01:24:14,800 --> 01:24:19,000 Speaker 8: can actually carry over from previous regimes into this regime 1943 01:24:19,320 --> 01:24:22,439 Speaker 8: and still carve out, you know, a significant role. So 1944 01:24:23,240 --> 01:24:24,960 Speaker 8: that's why I think if you have some of these 1945 01:24:25,000 --> 01:24:27,760 Speaker 8: guys that you're surprised that you weren't really counting on, 1946 01:24:27,960 --> 01:24:29,679 Speaker 8: you know. And I'll just use Jacob's as the example 1947 01:24:29,720 --> 01:24:32,240 Speaker 8: because we talked about him earlier. But again, like you know, 1948 01:24:32,320 --> 01:24:34,880 Speaker 8: suddenly all of a sudden, it's like whoa, He's suddenly 1949 01:24:35,080 --> 01:24:37,639 Speaker 8: something well out there, Yeah, you know, And I mean 1950 01:24:37,680 --> 01:24:39,519 Speaker 8: I'm not saying that that's going to happen, but there 1951 01:24:39,520 --> 01:24:42,120 Speaker 8: are other positions along the roster where you know, Alex 1952 01:24:42,160 --> 01:24:45,320 Speaker 8: Austin has had solid ends to the last couple of seasons, 1953 01:24:45,640 --> 01:24:48,040 Speaker 8: battled injuries, hasn't been able to put it all together. 1954 01:24:48,160 --> 01:24:50,880 Speaker 8: But does Carlton Davis have some kind of lingering injury? 1955 01:24:50,880 --> 01:24:52,880 Speaker 4: Does he get more of an opportunity he steps up 1956 01:24:52,880 --> 01:24:54,360 Speaker 4: and now all of a sudden it's like, Okay, we've 1957 01:24:54,400 --> 01:24:56,840 Speaker 4: got another young corner now that we can try to 1958 01:24:56,920 --> 01:24:59,479 Speaker 4: keep around and provide some depth. So it's a great 1959 01:24:59,560 --> 01:25:01,360 Speaker 4: question thing. And I got asked the same thing when 1960 01:25:01,360 --> 01:25:04,800 Speaker 4: I went on a serious radio yesterday and I know, 1961 01:25:06,880 --> 01:25:11,000 Speaker 4: who were you within seems and I'm no, no, it 1962 01:25:11,040 --> 01:25:12,479 Speaker 4: was it was. It wasn't a big show. 1963 01:25:12,479 --> 01:25:16,240 Speaker 5: I don't think I party shows. His music show just 1964 01:25:16,280 --> 01:25:17,559 Speaker 5: asked me about music the whole time. 1965 01:25:17,720 --> 01:25:19,360 Speaker 4: But they asked me the same thing about you know, 1966 01:25:19,680 --> 01:25:22,080 Speaker 4: where is the biggest concern on the top And I'm like, 1967 01:25:22,880 --> 01:25:25,000 Speaker 4: there isn't really top line concerns. You kind of know 1968 01:25:25,040 --> 01:25:27,000 Speaker 4: who the guys are out there, and you hope that 1969 01:25:27,040 --> 01:25:29,559 Speaker 4: they play well, of course, but really the question are 1970 01:25:29,960 --> 01:25:32,719 Speaker 4: the depth the sub packages, how do the wide receiver 1971 01:25:32,960 --> 01:25:33,920 Speaker 4: snaps get divvied up? 1972 01:25:33,920 --> 01:25:34,559 Speaker 5: Those kind of things. 1973 01:25:34,640 --> 01:25:36,759 Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean like they're going to have a playmaker question, 1974 01:25:36,960 --> 01:25:39,719 Speaker 10: like do they have enough firepower on offense to really 1975 01:25:39,800 --> 01:25:43,080 Speaker 10: compete with the top top teams. But like to Fred's 1976 01:25:43,120 --> 01:25:45,840 Speaker 10: question earlier, I think all those little things are going 1977 01:25:45,920 --> 01:25:48,160 Speaker 10: to figure themselves out just fine. Like I think Will 1978 01:25:48,200 --> 01:25:50,200 Speaker 10: Campbell's going to be just fine. I think Milton Williams 1979 01:25:50,200 --> 01:25:52,439 Speaker 10: is going to be just fine. The question, the only 1980 01:25:52,520 --> 01:25:54,679 Speaker 10: question that I have is like when they do get injuries, 1981 01:25:54,680 --> 01:25:57,280 Speaker 10: and they will get injuries, like do they have enough 1982 01:25:57,320 --> 01:26:00,320 Speaker 10: depth behind some of these guys to withstand it and 1983 01:26:00,360 --> 01:26:02,200 Speaker 10: be really you know, are we going to get be 1984 01:26:02,240 --> 01:26:04,840 Speaker 10: in November and December? And it's like, well, I tackle, 1985 01:26:04,880 --> 01:26:06,519 Speaker 10: like everybody got hurt, and you know. 1986 01:26:06,560 --> 01:26:08,719 Speaker 2: Now we're on Well if everybody gets hurt. 1987 01:26:10,240 --> 01:26:13,040 Speaker 10: Their starters got hurt, and now we're on Trey Jacobs 1988 01:26:13,080 --> 01:26:15,240 Speaker 10: and Venerian Lowe again, and here you know that we're. 1989 01:26:15,360 --> 01:26:18,479 Speaker 4: It's not it's not everybody there are I agree with Evan, 1990 01:26:18,640 --> 01:26:21,960 Speaker 4: there are a couple of guys that if they got hurt, 1991 01:26:22,360 --> 01:26:27,840 Speaker 4: would be borderline disastrous. And it's not everybody, you know, 1992 01:26:27,880 --> 01:26:30,839 Speaker 4: but if if you if you lost like three guys 1993 01:26:30,920 --> 01:26:33,680 Speaker 4: out of what he's talking about, like you know, one 1994 01:26:33,680 --> 01:26:38,360 Speaker 4: of the tackles one of the corners and one in Spalline. 1995 01:26:39,280 --> 01:26:44,519 Speaker 4: You know, that'd be really really impactful. That's not a 1996 01:26:44,520 --> 01:26:47,400 Speaker 4: lot of injuries, but it's three very specific. 1997 01:26:46,920 --> 01:26:49,720 Speaker 10: Ones, right, you know, because I just feel like they 1998 01:26:49,720 --> 01:26:52,240 Speaker 10: had to get back to level with the roster this 1999 01:26:52,320 --> 01:26:54,439 Speaker 10: past offseason, and they did a nice job of that, 2000 01:26:54,560 --> 01:26:58,599 Speaker 10: but they haven't built enough over years, right, Like, in 2001 01:26:58,680 --> 01:27:01,000 Speaker 10: order to really build up the whole fifty three, it 2002 01:27:01,080 --> 01:27:03,400 Speaker 10: takes two or three years to really have that. 2003 01:27:03,640 --> 01:27:05,880 Speaker 8: Was like, they went into free agency and got some 2004 01:27:06,000 --> 01:27:08,519 Speaker 8: of their guys, but they haven't been able to draft 2005 01:27:08,520 --> 01:27:10,679 Speaker 8: develop their kind of guys to round out the roster. 2006 01:27:10,880 --> 01:27:15,960 Speaker 2: Here, Nathan is in Monterey, Texas, Mexico, says, I opened 2007 01:27:16,000 --> 01:27:18,880 Speaker 2: the show on Monday, and imagine my excitement when one 2008 01:27:18,920 --> 01:27:20,800 Speaker 2: of the first topics to come up was the two 2009 01:27:20,800 --> 01:27:23,479 Speaker 2: thousand and two season. My heart skipped a beat. As 2010 01:27:23,520 --> 01:27:26,400 Speaker 2: Fred Toldpaul, we'll talk about that later. We got an 2011 01:27:26,400 --> 01:27:29,160 Speaker 2: email about it. My email was about to touch the 2012 01:27:29,200 --> 01:27:32,439 Speaker 2: hollow lips of kersh was about to echo in the 2013 01:27:32,439 --> 01:27:35,720 Speaker 2: halls of Patriots podcast history. I was about to have 2014 01:27:35,880 --> 01:27:39,599 Speaker 2: sarcasm and snark directed my way by Paul some self 2015 01:27:39,640 --> 01:27:43,840 Speaker 2: deprecating jokes from Mike, even Fawn reminiscing about his days 2016 01:27:43,880 --> 01:27:47,080 Speaker 2: as a young fan by Evan, and then two hours 2017 01:27:47,160 --> 01:27:51,240 Speaker 2: and nothing. As time wore on, I realized I'd been teased, 2018 01:27:51,640 --> 01:27:54,960 Speaker 2: teased by Fred Kersh. My email was not going to 2019 01:27:54,960 --> 01:27:58,480 Speaker 2: be read. Anyone else who has experienced his religious experience 2020 01:27:58,520 --> 01:28:01,640 Speaker 2: can understand and relate to the ecstasy felt. I have 2021 01:28:01,720 --> 01:28:04,519 Speaker 2: been blessed. I will die happy. PS. I really am 2022 01:28:04,600 --> 01:28:07,080 Speaker 2: interested in answer to my question about the two thousand 2023 01:28:07,080 --> 01:28:09,200 Speaker 2: and two season, and I do remember that, and I 2024 01:28:09,240 --> 01:28:13,839 Speaker 2: apologize Nathan, we get sidetracked. But his question was what happened? 2025 01:28:14,320 --> 01:28:16,640 Speaker 2: They won the Super Bowl in one and then in 2026 01:28:16,760 --> 01:28:19,680 Speaker 2: O two. I think it's like one of only two 2027 01:28:19,800 --> 01:28:22,160 Speaker 2: years that Brady didn't make the playoffs. 2028 01:28:23,720 --> 01:28:26,919 Speaker 5: Yeah, like led the league in touchdowns? 2029 01:28:27,000 --> 01:28:27,400 Speaker 2: Is that right? 2030 01:28:27,479 --> 01:28:30,280 Speaker 4: So he led the league in touchdowns just despite not 2031 01:28:30,400 --> 01:28:32,639 Speaker 4: really being good until like oh seven. 2032 01:28:34,640 --> 01:28:39,439 Speaker 2: It's always this argument that he's like, no, I mean, Paul. 2033 01:28:39,439 --> 01:28:41,200 Speaker 4: The think Paul's always said to me because I've asked him, 2034 01:28:41,200 --> 01:28:43,080 Speaker 4: that he's asking questions like they couldn't stop the run. 2035 01:28:43,520 --> 01:28:46,680 Speaker 4: That was a big, big problem with that team. They 2036 01:28:46,680 --> 01:28:48,920 Speaker 4: brought in some guys. Steve Martin was sort of the 2037 01:28:48,920 --> 01:28:51,320 Speaker 4: poster child for it. He was a great remember the 2038 01:28:51,400 --> 01:28:55,520 Speaker 4: great guy. He played some nose tackle for that team. 2039 01:28:56,040 --> 01:28:59,519 Speaker 4: Great talker, wasn't a great player, didn't didn't really play 2040 01:28:59,520 --> 01:29:02,640 Speaker 4: all that well. Four of them up front in the. 2041 01:29:02,640 --> 01:29:03,960 Speaker 5: Next Yeah, that shows you. 2042 01:29:04,160 --> 01:29:07,400 Speaker 4: So they recognized the problems. And back then that era, 2043 01:29:07,680 --> 01:29:09,680 Speaker 4: you know, running the ball and stopping the run was 2044 01:29:09,920 --> 01:29:13,080 Speaker 4: far more vital to a team's success than it is today. 2045 01:29:13,400 --> 01:29:16,960 Speaker 4: Not that it's irrelevant today, but it was really really important. 2046 01:29:17,000 --> 01:29:19,120 Speaker 4: I remember the third game they started. The team started 2047 01:29:19,160 --> 01:29:21,759 Speaker 4: off three and zero and then they ended up finishing 2048 01:29:21,840 --> 01:29:25,479 Speaker 4: nine and seven. Very pedestrian. But the third game was 2049 01:29:25,520 --> 01:29:28,320 Speaker 4: at home here against Kansas City, and Priest Holmes ran 2050 01:29:28,360 --> 01:29:31,360 Speaker 4: for about one hundred and eighty five yards. They just 2051 01:29:31,439 --> 01:29:34,519 Speaker 4: couldn't stop them, could not stop them on the ground. 2052 01:29:34,560 --> 01:29:36,439 Speaker 4: It was a shootout. I think the Patriots ended up 2053 01:29:36,439 --> 01:29:39,760 Speaker 4: winning in overtime, but like forty one thirty eight or 2054 01:29:39,800 --> 01:29:44,240 Speaker 4: thirty eight thirty five, something like that, they just couldn't 2055 01:29:44,240 --> 01:29:46,160 Speaker 4: stop the run. It was kind of as simple as that. 2056 01:29:46,560 --> 01:29:48,439 Speaker 8: Kind of reminds me of the seventeen opener when I 2057 01:29:48,680 --> 01:29:51,960 Speaker 8: or yeah, seventeen opener when same thing. Chiefs Kareem hunt 2058 01:29:52,080 --> 01:29:54,040 Speaker 8: all over them and you're like, h oh, and that 2059 01:29:54,160 --> 01:29:55,240 Speaker 8: was you got. 2060 01:29:55,080 --> 01:29:56,920 Speaker 5: To the super Bowl. But a sign of these team 2061 01:29:57,040 --> 01:29:58,479 Speaker 5: is going to struggle to stop people. 2062 01:29:58,680 --> 01:30:02,080 Speaker 10: That was my first experience was trying to understand tiebreakers 2063 01:30:02,840 --> 01:30:04,920 Speaker 10: in sports. Like I was like nine, ten years old 2064 01:30:04,960 --> 01:30:07,320 Speaker 10: at that point, and my dad's like trying to explain them. 2065 01:30:07,360 --> 01:30:09,519 Speaker 10: But I'm like, but they have this, like the record 2066 01:30:09,600 --> 01:30:11,240 Speaker 10: is good enough to make the playoffs, and he's like. 2067 01:30:11,160 --> 01:30:14,320 Speaker 11: They didn't make it. I kept refreshing. 2068 01:30:14,400 --> 01:30:17,120 Speaker 10: I remember, like the CBS sports line or whatever it was. 2069 01:30:17,160 --> 01:30:19,320 Speaker 10: I was like, but I don't get it, Like what's 2070 01:30:19,760 --> 01:30:22,960 Speaker 10: it was like a that in a in eight right 2071 01:30:23,000 --> 01:30:25,040 Speaker 10: where they both they missed out on tie breakers in 2072 01:30:25,080 --> 01:30:25,920 Speaker 10: both occasions. O. 2073 01:30:26,040 --> 01:30:29,519 Speaker 4: Wait, was was really unlucky. I mean the OA team 2074 01:30:29,560 --> 01:30:31,720 Speaker 4: went eleven and five, You should make the playoffs at 2075 01:30:31,720 --> 01:30:33,880 Speaker 4: eleven and five, nine and seven, you kind of leave 2076 01:30:33,920 --> 01:30:38,320 Speaker 4: yourself vulnerable to a tiebreaker. But eleven and five, it 2077 01:30:38,400 --> 01:30:40,559 Speaker 4: was just one of those years that it was sort 2078 01:30:40,600 --> 01:30:43,200 Speaker 4: of been an a liar that eleven and five wasn't good. 2079 01:30:43,120 --> 01:30:45,479 Speaker 5: Enough to make the play missed the playoff. 2080 01:30:45,520 --> 01:30:47,720 Speaker 4: I think I think that there's a Denver team. I 2081 01:30:47,760 --> 01:30:49,800 Speaker 4: remember being social with that no one else had ever 2082 01:30:49,880 --> 01:30:51,800 Speaker 4: not made the playoffs. Yeah, no one's ever made it any 2083 01:30:51,800 --> 01:30:55,400 Speaker 4: and he was, like, says here Denver, son of a bitch. 2084 01:30:55,400 --> 01:30:57,680 Speaker 4: I don't remember that. 2085 01:30:57,640 --> 01:31:00,280 Speaker 2: Corey and Connecticut. Been at Patrios fan since the fled 2086 01:31:00,360 --> 01:31:03,839 Speaker 2: So days and a diehard PU listener since twenty twenty season. 2087 01:31:05,320 --> 01:31:08,200 Speaker 2: Absolutely love the show, look forward to every episode. Just 2088 01:31:08,240 --> 01:31:10,680 Speaker 2: wanted to say the guest the listener game was one 2089 01:31:10,720 --> 01:31:13,880 Speaker 2: of the absolute favorite things you've done. Hearing all these 2090 01:31:13,920 --> 01:31:16,280 Speaker 2: callers every week, you can't help but create a mental 2091 01:31:16,280 --> 01:31:18,280 Speaker 2: image of what they look like, and it was so 2092 01:31:18,400 --> 01:31:20,799 Speaker 2: much fun to actually put the faces to the names. 2093 01:31:21,360 --> 01:31:23,360 Speaker 2: I played along and got seven out of ten. 2094 01:31:23,479 --> 01:31:26,080 Speaker 4: Right better than me, way better than us. 2095 01:31:26,160 --> 01:31:29,040 Speaker 2: Christian in La looked as smug as one might imagine, 2096 01:31:29,160 --> 01:31:31,840 Speaker 2: and I knew immediately it had to be him Ford 2097 01:31:31,880 --> 01:31:34,960 Speaker 2: and Savannah and his look of whimsy totally had me fooled. 2098 01:31:35,240 --> 01:31:38,080 Speaker 2: I thought he was James Pettigroup. Can't wait for the 2099 01:31:38,120 --> 01:31:41,160 Speaker 2: next edition with Patty from Agawam, Jack for Ma and 2100 01:31:41,240 --> 01:31:43,839 Speaker 2: Aba and more of the faithful PU listeners. 2101 01:31:43,880 --> 01:31:44,120 Speaker 4: Yeah. 2102 01:31:44,520 --> 01:31:44,720 Speaker 11: Fun. 2103 01:31:44,800 --> 01:31:47,600 Speaker 5: Have those emails still been coming in people sent in 2104 01:31:47,680 --> 01:31:48,120 Speaker 5: their pictures? 2105 01:31:48,240 --> 01:31:49,559 Speaker 6: I guess, so that's fun. 2106 01:31:49,640 --> 01:31:51,080 Speaker 5: The people could play at home. I didn't even think 2107 01:31:51,120 --> 01:31:53,240 Speaker 5: of that though. That's a it's a family game, it's 2108 01:31:53,240 --> 01:31:53,720 Speaker 5: a fun game. 2109 01:31:53,760 --> 01:31:54,639 Speaker 2: It's a family game. 2110 01:31:54,680 --> 01:31:58,599 Speaker 4: Everybody can play. Can't win if you don't play. 2111 01:31:58,720 --> 01:32:02,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right. Josh in Atlanta writes in Dear do 2112 01:32:02,360 --> 01:32:06,200 Speaker 2: Some Fred, I love you both dearly, but your unbridled 2113 01:32:06,200 --> 01:32:10,839 Speaker 2: trait Jacob's optimism won't distract me from the unmitigated disaster 2114 01:32:10,960 --> 01:32:15,000 Speaker 2: that was last year. Per PFF, Jacobs was thirty eighth 2115 01:32:15,000 --> 01:32:18,080 Speaker 2: out of four one hundred and forty eligible tackles in 2116 01:32:18,120 --> 01:32:21,439 Speaker 2: total snaps, but ranked one hundred and thirty seventh in 2117 01:32:21,560 --> 01:32:25,960 Speaker 2: overall block grading. Any scenario where he benches Morgan Moses 2118 01:32:26,120 --> 01:32:30,840 Speaker 2: is catastrophic. Also, Christian and La tried too hard in 2119 01:32:30,880 --> 01:32:33,479 Speaker 2: that photo submission and in every one of his many 2120 01:32:33,600 --> 01:32:34,799 Speaker 2: nauseating ventures. 2121 01:32:35,800 --> 01:32:38,360 Speaker 4: Kind of Christian. Everybody's saying it. They felt like a 2122 01:32:38,360 --> 01:32:41,559 Speaker 4: photo shoot, a little bit like I wonder it definitely lights, 2123 01:32:41,600 --> 01:32:43,280 Speaker 4: he had some lighting and lighting. 2124 01:32:43,000 --> 01:32:45,000 Speaker 10: It seemed like maybe a ring light, you know, like 2125 01:32:45,040 --> 01:32:47,599 Speaker 10: there's a lot of an influencer on the side. 2126 01:32:47,680 --> 01:32:51,120 Speaker 5: Right he understands he's gonna call back in I. 2127 01:32:53,360 --> 01:32:55,639 Speaker 2: Want to hear from miss Iceland like what happened? 2128 01:32:55,920 --> 01:32:56,120 Speaker 4: Right? 2129 01:32:56,960 --> 01:32:58,080 Speaker 5: And what do they do in Iceland? 2130 01:32:58,680 --> 01:33:00,560 Speaker 4: She's living in the Greater Naya falls Er. 2131 01:33:00,760 --> 01:33:05,240 Speaker 2: Well, the the funny thing about it is Iceland is 2132 01:33:05,240 --> 01:33:07,920 Speaker 2: the one that's more green. Green is the one that's 2133 01:33:07,960 --> 01:33:08,400 Speaker 2: more ice. 2134 01:33:08,560 --> 01:33:10,519 Speaker 5: I've heard that, did you know? I've heard that tale 2135 01:33:10,600 --> 01:33:11,400 Speaker 5: Vikings very. 2136 01:33:11,240 --> 01:33:15,320 Speaker 4: Small drive on a parkway and park. 2137 01:33:18,080 --> 01:33:20,599 Speaker 2: That's actually a Stephen Right's Stephen Right? 2138 01:33:22,040 --> 01:33:24,120 Speaker 11: Which one is the one that's James James Bond goes. 2139 01:33:24,240 --> 01:33:25,000 Speaker 11: I think it's Iceland. 2140 01:33:25,920 --> 01:33:27,920 Speaker 5: Oh, I'm not a Chiefs Bawn guy. 2141 01:33:28,360 --> 01:33:30,320 Speaker 4: Really, James, I thought for sure you'd be a James 2142 01:33:30,320 --> 01:33:30,680 Speaker 4: Bond guy. 2143 01:33:30,760 --> 01:33:31,600 Speaker 5: Halle Berry. 2144 01:33:33,400 --> 01:33:36,040 Speaker 2: James all time great franchises. 2145 01:33:36,439 --> 01:33:38,519 Speaker 4: I would totally agree with that, And I would also 2146 01:33:38,560 --> 01:33:40,280 Speaker 4: tell you in the same breath that I've never seen 2147 01:33:40,320 --> 01:33:41,800 Speaker 4: a single one what what. 2148 01:33:43,560 --> 01:33:44,120 Speaker 2: Gosh? 2149 01:33:45,000 --> 01:33:46,320 Speaker 11: I mean doesn't like action? 2150 01:33:47,560 --> 01:33:51,240 Speaker 4: That's completely on rom com. Matter of fact, I watched 2151 01:33:51,240 --> 01:33:55,800 Speaker 4: it for the four thousand consecutive times the other day. 2152 01:33:55,920 --> 01:33:58,200 Speaker 2: But you think you think love story? 2153 01:33:58,360 --> 01:34:04,200 Speaker 10: Now I'm mad creators like so good soundtrack? 2154 01:34:05,479 --> 01:34:06,479 Speaker 5: Are you not entertained? 2155 01:34:06,960 --> 01:34:08,519 Speaker 2: It's kind of like the way it was back? 2156 01:34:08,680 --> 01:34:09,680 Speaker 11: Is this like Shakespeare? 2157 01:34:10,400 --> 01:34:11,519 Speaker 4: That's what I think of that take? 2158 01:34:12,120 --> 01:34:13,280 Speaker 11: Have you never seen Skyfall. 2159 01:34:13,760 --> 01:34:18,639 Speaker 8: No, I saw like the like the Roger Moore one 2160 01:34:18,680 --> 01:34:19,880 Speaker 8: in like the eighties. 2161 01:34:19,520 --> 01:34:22,840 Speaker 4: And one of the worst living living like the Roger 2162 01:34:22,920 --> 01:34:24,360 Speaker 4: Moore won a lot. 2163 01:34:24,439 --> 01:34:26,760 Speaker 18: I'm sorry sorry, Well the one that I forget which 2164 01:34:26,760 --> 01:34:29,080 Speaker 18: one it was Living Let Die, Living, Let Dies, Moon 2165 01:34:29,120 --> 01:34:32,800 Speaker 18: Brakers that was that was that was Roger was his 2166 01:34:32,880 --> 01:34:36,519 Speaker 18: best living. Yeah, definitely saw the Living Daylights at the 2167 01:34:36,560 --> 01:34:37,320 Speaker 18: Cape Cinema. 2168 01:34:37,400 --> 01:34:40,120 Speaker 5: And Dennis for sure remember that clearest day to me 2169 01:34:40,280 --> 01:34:41,080 Speaker 5: Dalton very. 2170 01:34:41,320 --> 01:34:43,679 Speaker 10: The boat chasing and Living Let Die is legit and 2171 01:34:43,720 --> 01:34:45,800 Speaker 10: that's like and that was like back then like that, 2172 01:34:45,920 --> 01:34:48,000 Speaker 10: you know, to be able to put something together like that. 2173 01:34:48,160 --> 01:34:50,360 Speaker 11: And then you have Paul McCartney on the soundtrack. 2174 01:34:50,520 --> 01:34:53,360 Speaker 5: Yea great, Like you're like Sean Connery, you got them all. 2175 01:34:53,400 --> 01:34:54,320 Speaker 5: You're like James Bond. 2176 01:34:54,520 --> 01:34:57,760 Speaker 11: My father is the biggest James Bond all right. 2177 01:34:58,040 --> 01:35:00,680 Speaker 8: Well he read the books and stuff down right, I 2178 01:35:00,720 --> 01:35:02,760 Speaker 8: mean I've watched. 2179 01:35:03,000 --> 01:35:05,200 Speaker 5: And he would agree that Broy's the best Bond, right. 2180 01:35:05,400 --> 01:35:13,679 Speaker 4: Uh really Bond is that fact? See, I can't comment 2181 01:35:13,720 --> 01:35:14,720 Speaker 4: on account I didn't see. 2182 01:35:14,800 --> 01:35:16,080 Speaker 2: I think Craig is the best. 2183 01:35:16,479 --> 01:35:17,160 Speaker 11: He's very good. 2184 01:35:17,439 --> 01:35:19,519 Speaker 2: I mean a lot of people think it's blasphemy to 2185 01:35:19,520 --> 01:35:21,680 Speaker 2: say anybody but Sean Connery, but. 2186 01:35:23,160 --> 01:35:24,280 Speaker 4: I expect you to die. 2187 01:35:24,920 --> 01:35:28,120 Speaker 10: Roger Moore is like that's his era, you know, like 2188 01:35:28,160 --> 01:35:31,160 Speaker 10: she's a little too young for Sean Connery. It was 2189 01:35:31,160 --> 01:35:33,720 Speaker 10: like the sixties, so he was a young and so 2190 01:35:33,880 --> 01:35:35,960 Speaker 10: like Roger Moore like Live and Let Die is probably 2191 01:35:36,000 --> 01:35:36,439 Speaker 10: his favorite. 2192 01:35:36,560 --> 01:35:39,799 Speaker 2: When I was a kid, I had the toy Aston 2193 01:35:39,880 --> 01:35:43,200 Speaker 2: Martin Carr that it would shoot little things out the front. 2194 01:35:43,600 --> 01:35:46,400 Speaker 2: The bullet shield would come out in the back, you know, 2195 01:35:46,520 --> 01:35:48,599 Speaker 2: doors open. It was really cool. And then I had 2196 01:35:48,600 --> 01:35:51,439 Speaker 2: a James Bond briefcase that you open it up and 2197 01:35:51,479 --> 01:35:54,280 Speaker 2: had all the weapons. It actually shot a missile out 2198 01:35:54,320 --> 01:35:56,639 Speaker 2: the front of the thing like nowadays, like they would 2199 01:35:56,640 --> 01:35:59,000 Speaker 2: never sell this because you know, kids would be getting killed. 2200 01:35:59,400 --> 01:36:07,160 Speaker 2: But uh yeah, I had the James Bond briefcase. That 2201 01:36:07,280 --> 01:36:11,759 Speaker 2: was That was Sean cold and I no gold Finger. 2202 01:36:12,200 --> 01:36:15,759 Speaker 2: Goldfinger was Sean Connor. Remember like the worst one, Roger 2203 01:36:15,800 --> 01:36:18,880 Speaker 2: Moore when they had that that giant guy and on 2204 01:36:18,960 --> 01:36:19,679 Speaker 2: the space station. 2205 01:36:20,840 --> 01:36:23,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, that is correct that I'm in for this now. 2206 01:36:23,720 --> 01:36:24,400 Speaker 2: That was awful. 2207 01:36:25,360 --> 01:36:26,080 Speaker 4: That was awful. 2208 01:36:26,280 --> 01:36:27,000 Speaker 2: Awful movie. 2209 01:36:28,120 --> 01:36:29,960 Speaker 4: You guys are really guys are really selling it. 2210 01:36:30,160 --> 01:36:30,879 Speaker 11: That was awful. 2211 01:36:30,960 --> 01:36:32,880 Speaker 4: This one song he was the worst. 2212 01:36:32,600 --> 01:36:38,759 Speaker 2: Bonds, the one had the bond that was the first, 2213 01:36:38,800 --> 01:36:42,720 Speaker 2: that was the first bond. Yeah, yeah, yeah, he was 2214 01:36:42,760 --> 01:36:44,840 Speaker 2: a one and done. Yeah yeah. 2215 01:36:44,920 --> 01:36:47,800 Speaker 4: Maybe it's like a franchise thing, like I'm not I 2216 01:36:47,800 --> 01:36:50,720 Speaker 4: haven't really seen a lot of like Fast and Furious. No, no, 2217 01:36:51,000 --> 01:36:52,880 Speaker 4: I saw the first one, and I'm thinking about all 2218 01:36:52,880 --> 01:36:55,920 Speaker 4: of these like action kind of franchise things, and you 2219 01:36:56,000 --> 01:36:56,599 Speaker 4: might be right. 2220 01:36:57,080 --> 01:36:59,800 Speaker 8: Yeah, like Parker said, we just park I'm like, I 2221 01:36:59,800 --> 01:37:01,160 Speaker 8: miss I've seen six Jurassic Parks. 2222 01:37:01,360 --> 01:37:03,800 Speaker 4: I've seen some of your Jurassic Parks though, I've seen 2223 01:37:03,920 --> 01:37:05,840 Speaker 4: like the first couple were worth watching. 2224 01:37:05,720 --> 01:37:07,640 Speaker 8: And like the Marvel movies, like I've left like and 2225 01:37:07,640 --> 01:37:09,240 Speaker 8: then the DC movies, and like it's just so much 2226 01:37:09,280 --> 01:37:09,800 Speaker 8: to talk about. 2227 01:37:10,080 --> 01:37:12,680 Speaker 4: Would be right about my critics. I don't like the Superhero. 2228 01:37:13,120 --> 01:37:16,040 Speaker 10: We're talking about that today because somebody asked me if 2229 01:37:16,040 --> 01:37:19,000 Speaker 10: I had seen the New Superman or Fantastic Four yet, 2230 01:37:19,280 --> 01:37:20,800 Speaker 10: and I was like, to be honest with you, like 2231 01:37:21,160 --> 01:37:22,360 Speaker 10: getting kind of tired of it. 2232 01:37:22,439 --> 01:37:23,200 Speaker 11: Like there's been a lot. 2233 01:37:23,240 --> 01:37:25,080 Speaker 10: I know, Mad behind the Glass right now is like 2234 01:37:25,120 --> 01:37:27,920 Speaker 10: you're gonna kill me, But like there's there's just there's a. 2235 01:37:27,840 --> 01:37:29,519 Speaker 4: Lot to do it in a variety of ways. 2236 01:37:29,720 --> 01:37:32,439 Speaker 10: Yeah, right, And there's a lot of superhero movies like 2237 01:37:32,439 --> 01:37:33,400 Speaker 10: can We take a Break? 2238 01:37:33,479 --> 01:37:36,000 Speaker 8: Like and it's like it's so like this is gonna 2239 01:37:36,000 --> 01:37:38,120 Speaker 8: set up the next twelve years of field. Like everyone's 2240 01:37:38,120 --> 01:37:40,639 Speaker 8: trying to do what they did with the Avengers, right 2241 01:37:40,720 --> 01:37:42,280 Speaker 8: and then trying to have their version of it, And 2242 01:37:42,560 --> 01:37:43,040 Speaker 8: it's just. 2243 01:37:42,960 --> 01:37:46,280 Speaker 2: See, that's why I love the Boys on Prime because 2244 01:37:46,320 --> 01:37:48,840 Speaker 2: it was a whole new take on superheroes and it 2245 01:37:48,960 --> 01:37:50,120 Speaker 2: was just so irreverent. 2246 01:37:50,240 --> 01:37:53,240 Speaker 4: It was it was ridiculously over the top the deepest, 2247 01:37:53,320 --> 01:37:56,080 Speaker 4: like one of my favorite characters, Like, he's such a funny, 2248 01:37:56,880 --> 01:37:57,679 Speaker 4: such a loser. 2249 01:37:57,960 --> 01:38:03,360 Speaker 5: I love it the deep too many. 2250 01:38:03,320 --> 01:38:05,160 Speaker 2: He's his girlfriend's an octopus. 2251 01:38:06,320 --> 01:38:08,000 Speaker 8: What like the bit with the whale too, they had 2252 01:38:08,000 --> 01:38:10,639 Speaker 8: some big whale where like a whale dies, I forget 2253 01:38:10,920 --> 01:38:11,479 Speaker 8: the dolphins. 2254 01:38:11,640 --> 01:38:16,760 Speaker 2: Dolphin, Yeah, he's trying to say that. Yeah, he's such 2255 01:38:16,800 --> 01:38:21,200 Speaker 2: a loser. Barton Poland writes in Fred, don't worry. I 2256 01:38:21,240 --> 01:38:25,599 Speaker 2: forgive you for not recognizing me from the picture. But honestly, 2257 01:38:25,760 --> 01:38:28,519 Speaker 2: considering how many Guinnesses were involved that night, I would 2258 01:38:28,520 --> 01:38:30,479 Speaker 2: have bet on Evan being the one to forget. 2259 01:38:32,840 --> 01:38:35,519 Speaker 11: That was a night there there are quite a few beverages. 2260 01:38:36,000 --> 01:38:43,000 Speaker 2: Funny yeap, phil and Vermont writes in excited because for 2261 01:38:43,080 --> 01:38:45,799 Speaker 2: the first time ever, I'm coming down for joint practice. 2262 01:38:46,800 --> 01:38:48,680 Speaker 2: As is often the topic when it comes to the 2263 01:38:48,760 --> 01:38:51,759 Speaker 2: joint practices, it's intriguing to see the teams come together, 2264 01:38:51,840 --> 01:38:55,200 Speaker 2: observed player performances and evaluate who's excelling and who isn't. 2265 01:38:55,640 --> 01:38:59,080 Speaker 2: My question is, what do you know about the relationships 2266 01:38:59,080 --> 01:39:03,320 Speaker 2: between coaches during these joint practices? Our coaches generally open 2267 01:39:03,360 --> 01:39:07,400 Speaker 2: to experimentation and collaboration, or are some more secretive and 2268 01:39:07,479 --> 01:39:09,440 Speaker 2: reluctant to delve into the details. 2269 01:39:09,439 --> 01:39:10,760 Speaker 5: No, I think the first one. 2270 01:39:10,920 --> 01:39:14,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think they plan these joints because they have 2271 01:39:14,120 --> 01:39:17,400 Speaker 2: a relationship. Yeah, you know, I really respect coach. 2272 01:39:18,280 --> 01:39:19,040 Speaker 11: They usually talk. 2273 01:39:19,560 --> 01:39:22,479 Speaker 10: They'll talk for the practices and they'll they'll go over 2274 01:39:22,520 --> 01:39:25,040 Speaker 10: the script together of like what exactly they want to 2275 01:39:25,200 --> 01:39:27,200 Speaker 10: hit and what they want to work on now in 2276 01:39:27,280 --> 01:39:29,160 Speaker 10: terms of like what planes they're gonna call, I think 2277 01:39:29,200 --> 01:39:31,479 Speaker 10: they keep that close to the best to anybody. But 2278 01:39:31,880 --> 01:39:35,439 Speaker 10: in terms of the script of practice and situations like 2279 01:39:35,479 --> 01:39:37,880 Speaker 10: are we first, second down, third down, third and long 2280 01:39:37,960 --> 01:39:40,160 Speaker 10: red zone, like all that stuff I think gets talked about. 2281 01:39:40,240 --> 01:39:43,240 Speaker 4: You said at the top with Moses. They know what 2282 01:39:43,240 --> 01:39:45,400 Speaker 4: our plays are, they know our cadences. I mean, just 2283 01:39:45,439 --> 01:39:48,120 Speaker 4: to get to go against another team that it's more 2284 01:39:48,160 --> 01:39:50,520 Speaker 4: of a level playing field against that defense. 2285 01:39:50,200 --> 01:39:52,320 Speaker 5: They're a little and it's just it's better preparation. 2286 01:39:52,800 --> 01:39:55,760 Speaker 4: You can see why the coaches enjoy it. I mean, 2287 01:39:55,760 --> 01:39:57,160 Speaker 4: I do think I don't think we've mentioned it too. 2288 01:39:57,160 --> 01:39:58,320 Speaker 4: I mean, it does seem like they're going to do 2289 01:39:58,360 --> 01:39:59,160 Speaker 4: two with the Vikings. 2290 01:39:59,360 --> 01:40:02,240 Speaker 5: I mean we've gone back to one. Last year was one. 2291 01:40:02,760 --> 01:40:04,640 Speaker 8: This year was you know, one with the Commanders, But 2292 01:40:04,760 --> 01:40:06,360 Speaker 8: it's gonna be two with the Vikings. To me, I 2293 01:40:06,640 --> 01:40:08,720 Speaker 8: just wondered as that, you know, a sign of just 2294 01:40:08,920 --> 01:40:11,960 Speaker 8: trust between Kevin O'Connell and and Rabel that it's not 2295 01:40:12,000 --> 01:40:13,559 Speaker 8: gonna be like we were in Green Bay when the 2296 01:40:13,560 --> 01:40:17,080 Speaker 8: first eight plays of the second day practices were all fights. 2297 01:40:17,120 --> 01:40:18,360 Speaker 5: You know, it was bad. 2298 01:40:18,640 --> 01:40:23,439 Speaker 2: Claire Claire Wright, Hello Marine ill everyone, she said, friend 2299 01:40:23,520 --> 01:40:26,360 Speaker 2: on her Majesty's secret Servey. It wasn't the first bond 2300 01:40:26,400 --> 01:40:30,000 Speaker 2: I stand corrected. It was Midway, but George Lazenbee's only 2301 01:40:30,120 --> 01:40:32,320 Speaker 2: movie and it was one of the worst ones, So 2302 01:40:32,360 --> 01:40:35,640 Speaker 2: I got doubt that, right. Claire's British, Yeah, George Lazenbe 2303 01:40:36,479 --> 01:40:39,800 Speaker 2: and she agrees with you. She says, Marine, You're right, 2304 01:40:39,880 --> 01:40:42,680 Speaker 2: Brosnan did the Bond best, So I. 2305 01:40:42,640 --> 01:40:44,040 Speaker 5: Think he had the best bond girl of. 2306 01:40:45,479 --> 01:40:48,640 Speaker 10: You're gonna say Ali Berry if we're being honest, I 2307 01:40:48,680 --> 01:40:50,920 Speaker 10: really feel like it's Daniel Craig. But like all the 2308 01:40:51,000 --> 01:40:53,360 Speaker 10: O G Vond fans like my dad would never say 2309 01:40:53,400 --> 01:40:55,800 Speaker 10: it's Daniel Craig because it's too nostalgic for them to 2310 01:40:55,800 --> 01:40:58,920 Speaker 10: say Connery or Roger Moore. But I think in terms 2311 01:40:58,960 --> 01:41:02,320 Speaker 10: of the movies themselves, like his movies are were the best, 2312 01:41:02,400 --> 01:41:05,240 Speaker 10: like Skyfallowers, Oh yeah, yeah, awesome movie. 2313 01:41:05,080 --> 01:41:06,400 Speaker 4: I've seen piece of You know what I like about 2314 01:41:06,439 --> 01:41:08,040 Speaker 4: you know Craig though, is that he looks more like 2315 01:41:08,080 --> 01:41:09,960 Speaker 4: a villain right an, But he plays a good guy, 2316 01:41:09,960 --> 01:41:10,760 Speaker 4: doesn't he have just the. 2317 01:41:10,720 --> 01:41:15,519 Speaker 2: Look of like well looks Ian Fleming's book Bond was 2318 01:41:15,800 --> 01:41:17,400 Speaker 2: he had like the double side to. 2319 01:41:17,400 --> 01:41:18,719 Speaker 11: Me, he's on the line. 2320 01:41:18,840 --> 01:41:21,040 Speaker 10: Yeah, he does some things that he like you are 2321 01:41:21,080 --> 01:41:24,200 Speaker 10: not on like interesting not to the letter of the law, 2322 01:41:24,360 --> 01:41:25,280 Speaker 10: Ye for sure. 2323 01:41:25,320 --> 01:41:28,680 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, he was, you know, straddling that line. 2324 01:41:28,720 --> 01:41:33,519 Speaker 4: Just like almost Father Fred esque. Yes, yes, you know, 2325 01:41:33,560 --> 01:41:36,040 Speaker 4: willing to push the envelope. 2326 01:41:35,320 --> 01:41:39,000 Speaker 10: When but he has to do it because these villains 2327 01:41:39,000 --> 01:41:41,000 Speaker 10: are like super villain. So the only way he's going 2328 01:41:41,040 --> 01:41:42,800 Speaker 10: to bring down the villain is if he kind of 2329 01:41:42,800 --> 01:41:43,360 Speaker 10: toes that line. 2330 01:41:43,439 --> 01:41:45,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's good, that's a good like button for some 2331 01:41:45,240 --> 01:41:46,680 Speaker 4: of the series. And Father Fred is like when he 2332 01:41:46,720 --> 01:41:48,160 Speaker 4: goes to confession and there's like a. 2333 01:41:48,080 --> 01:41:51,440 Speaker 8: Certain priest that he always goes to that knows all secrets, 2334 01:41:51,720 --> 01:41:54,160 Speaker 8: and then like maybe he gets kidnapped, and Father Fred's worried, 2335 01:41:54,200 --> 01:41:55,759 Speaker 8: like it's all going to get out, all the sneakers. 2336 01:41:55,920 --> 01:41:57,719 Speaker 4: He has to go to the eighty three year old, 2337 01:41:58,240 --> 01:42:00,160 Speaker 4: staunchly Irish half Like I. 2338 01:42:00,680 --> 01:42:03,000 Speaker 2: Go into confession, it's light out and then at the 2339 01:42:03,080 --> 01:42:05,240 Speaker 2: end it's dunk out because I've been in there that long. 2340 01:42:05,520 --> 01:42:10,080 Speaker 4: Father O'Shaughnessy has to hear Fred's Confession's. 2341 01:42:09,040 --> 01:42:11,600 Speaker 5: Been kidnapped, Fred, We've got to find him. 2342 01:42:11,920 --> 01:42:14,960 Speaker 4: Episode two one, Yeah, two to one. Yeah, Well we 2343 01:42:15,120 --> 01:42:15,719 Speaker 4: hit it big. 2344 01:42:16,400 --> 01:42:23,400 Speaker 8: Syndication ten Yeah, Joe and Vermont. 2345 01:42:23,760 --> 01:42:23,880 Speaker 1: Uh. 2346 01:42:24,000 --> 01:42:27,240 Speaker 2: The other emailer was correct about the curse portrayal. I 2347 01:42:27,320 --> 01:42:29,960 Speaker 2: need more Salt and Pepper shows because that's the only 2348 01:42:30,000 --> 01:42:33,200 Speaker 2: time my emails get rid. Remember Salt and Pepper, Remember 2349 01:42:33,200 --> 01:42:37,240 Speaker 2: they came here that that was evident me like, oh no, 2350 01:42:37,720 --> 01:42:40,240 Speaker 2: we had a We had a listener who came in 2351 01:42:40,280 --> 01:42:45,240 Speaker 2: with his girlfriend and they were like salt and pepper. 2352 01:42:43,400 --> 01:42:46,360 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, they've all left us. 2353 01:42:47,600 --> 01:42:50,920 Speaker 2: Maybe just Fred's presence increases email quantity times ten. In 2354 01:42:50,960 --> 01:42:54,280 Speaker 2: all seriousness, what are the Patriots going to do with 2355 01:42:54,400 --> 01:42:56,760 Speaker 2: the tight end depth if they go into season with 2356 01:42:56,840 --> 01:42:58,720 Speaker 2: Henry Hooper and no fullback. 2357 01:42:59,000 --> 01:43:01,000 Speaker 5: It's another great example to what Paul said. If Hunter 2358 01:43:01,040 --> 01:43:02,720 Speaker 5: Henry goes down, it starts. 2359 01:43:02,400 --> 01:43:07,240 Speaker 4: To in the other part, you know, roster building wise. 2360 01:43:07,400 --> 01:43:10,120 Speaker 4: You know, yes, we can all say Lampi is on 2361 01:43:10,160 --> 01:43:13,040 Speaker 4: the team and that would be one of those tight ends, 2362 01:43:13,360 --> 01:43:17,599 Speaker 4: right or one of these guys plays his way onto 2363 01:43:17,640 --> 01:43:19,480 Speaker 4: the roster and this is a handful. 2364 01:43:19,200 --> 01:43:22,000 Speaker 11: Of west Over CJ. 2365 01:43:22,280 --> 01:43:27,920 Speaker 4: Dippery is a G Scott or Scott G jam Bell 2366 01:43:28,280 --> 01:43:31,799 Speaker 4: jahem Bell Foma draft pick. If one of these guys 2367 01:43:31,840 --> 01:43:34,320 Speaker 4: has a strong camp and there's gonna be opportunity because 2368 01:43:34,439 --> 01:43:38,880 Speaker 4: Hooper's driving at least out for now, it's not driving 2369 01:43:38,880 --> 01:43:43,000 Speaker 4: the bott I'm sorry. 2370 01:43:41,720 --> 01:43:42,479 Speaker 5: It's what we do. 2371 01:43:43,120 --> 01:43:45,040 Speaker 4: I was just gonna say, we can't let down the audience. 2372 01:43:45,760 --> 01:43:49,960 Speaker 2: What are you doing, David the Philippines you're watching David. 2373 01:43:50,000 --> 01:43:52,000 Speaker 2: The Philippines wants to know if we know what's going 2374 01:43:52,040 --> 01:43:54,240 Speaker 2: on with Poke. 2375 01:43:55,120 --> 01:43:57,720 Speaker 8: Report today that he had a little stiffness and that 2376 01:43:57,720 --> 01:43:59,639 Speaker 8: they're taking cautious in. 2377 01:43:59,600 --> 01:44:03,400 Speaker 11: The shoulder patness is what it was reported as, which a. 2378 01:44:03,400 --> 01:44:05,439 Speaker 5: Little strange in his shoulder. But I mean, well he 2379 01:44:05,479 --> 01:44:07,280 Speaker 5: had being precautions really, but. 2380 01:44:07,760 --> 01:44:10,479 Speaker 10: I guess he passed his physical is all reported this, 2381 01:44:10,560 --> 01:44:13,840 Speaker 10: But he passed his physical. But then I was trying 2382 01:44:13,840 --> 01:44:16,519 Speaker 10: to get out there probably earlier this week and felt 2383 01:44:16,560 --> 01:44:18,160 Speaker 10: some some tightness my arm. 2384 01:44:18,320 --> 01:44:19,400 Speaker 5: It's broke on my own. 2385 01:44:20,800 --> 01:44:21,080 Speaker 4: Uh. 2386 01:44:21,760 --> 01:44:24,599 Speaker 2: Mark's in Connecticut on the hotline. What's up? Mark? 2387 01:44:25,080 --> 01:44:25,160 Speaker 4: Oh? 2388 01:44:25,520 --> 01:44:25,760 Speaker 2: Mark? 2389 01:44:27,120 --> 01:44:27,639 Speaker 9: I just. 2390 01:44:30,280 --> 01:44:32,200 Speaker 13: What the robin? The robin? 2391 01:44:32,720 --> 01:44:35,519 Speaker 19: That was just a training camp today And I got 2392 01:44:35,520 --> 01:44:37,880 Speaker 19: to go up and say ida Al exposed before he 2393 01:44:37,960 --> 01:44:39,120 Speaker 19: got on ninety eight five. 2394 01:44:39,200 --> 01:44:39,800 Speaker 13: That was cool. 2395 01:44:40,479 --> 01:44:42,840 Speaker 2: Nice, Sorry for that. So do you have a good 2396 01:44:42,840 --> 01:44:43,439 Speaker 2: time today? 2397 01:44:45,000 --> 01:44:46,320 Speaker 9: Has a very good time happened? 2398 01:44:46,560 --> 01:44:49,240 Speaker 19: What did you think of the training beyond Henderson wheel 2399 01:44:49,280 --> 01:44:51,320 Speaker 19: wound with the explosive speed that the. 2400 01:44:51,360 --> 01:44:53,599 Speaker 2: Kids got, Kid's got great speed. 2401 01:44:54,080 --> 01:44:54,360 Speaker 4: Yeah. 2402 01:44:54,400 --> 01:44:57,599 Speaker 10: He had hid catching the flat today where he scooted 2403 01:44:57,600 --> 01:44:59,120 Speaker 10: it a little bit after the catch with it, I 2404 01:44:59,160 --> 01:44:59,479 Speaker 10: mean you. 2405 01:44:59,400 --> 01:45:00,559 Speaker 11: Can see it floats. 2406 01:45:00,800 --> 01:45:04,120 Speaker 10: Yeah, obviously that's one of those guys that for McDaniels, 2407 01:45:04,160 --> 01:45:06,439 Speaker 10: just finding ways to get him the ball in space, 2408 01:45:06,600 --> 01:45:08,000 Speaker 10: like you don't want to force feed it. 2409 01:45:08,000 --> 01:45:12,639 Speaker 2: But what was your favorite part about camp today? Mark? 2410 01:45:12,800 --> 01:45:14,960 Speaker 11: Meeting Alex Bart of course, of course. 2411 01:45:15,800 --> 01:45:19,080 Speaker 19: Well absolutely, yeah, I got to talk to him. But 2412 01:45:19,520 --> 01:45:22,479 Speaker 19: actually I got to say Caleb Burton and. 2413 01:45:23,680 --> 01:45:26,960 Speaker 2: Oh right, wow, he's the Burton family. Great. So you 2414 01:45:27,000 --> 01:45:32,519 Speaker 2: get you know, any autographs or any anything, try any food. 2415 01:45:32,640 --> 01:45:37,919 Speaker 19: I'm actually gonna go meet Bob Douglass at Kowloons thirteen. 2416 01:45:38,200 --> 01:45:41,080 Speaker 2: Okay, you got a date with all right, sounds good 2417 01:45:41,080 --> 01:45:42,960 Speaker 2: at the Kowloon up in Saugust. 2418 01:45:45,160 --> 01:45:45,400 Speaker 19: There. 2419 01:45:45,560 --> 01:45:49,120 Speaker 2: Okay, Kowloon the Kowloon, all right, that sounds like a 2420 01:45:49,120 --> 01:45:51,920 Speaker 2: good all right, Well thanks Mark, thanks for checking in. Mark. 2421 01:45:52,040 --> 01:45:53,000 Speaker 2: Was that practice today? 2422 01:45:54,000 --> 01:45:55,320 Speaker 5: I got to go back there. I haven't been there 2423 01:45:55,360 --> 01:45:57,400 Speaker 5: since cheez, I think I haven't. 2424 01:45:57,439 --> 01:45:58,160 Speaker 2: I can't remember. 2425 01:45:58,800 --> 01:46:00,960 Speaker 5: Like the week of graduation we do all kinds of events, 2426 01:46:00,960 --> 01:46:02,479 Speaker 5: and I think that was the last time I went there. 2427 01:46:02,520 --> 01:46:05,599 Speaker 8: We went whole like class of ninety nine. 2428 01:46:05,920 --> 01:46:08,519 Speaker 10: It's like a it's a big deal, like they have 2429 01:46:08,640 --> 01:46:10,519 Speaker 10: like Andy Wong's like all over the place. 2430 01:46:10,960 --> 01:46:14,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, Jackie in and Arbor. I've read every one of 2431 01:46:14,280 --> 01:46:18,000 Speaker 2: Ian Fleming's Bond books. Bond was an assassin, a cold 2432 01:46:18,000 --> 01:46:22,120 Speaker 2: blooded killer. He was also a highly educated, refined English gentleman. 2433 01:46:22,600 --> 01:46:25,720 Speaker 2: Sean Connery was by far the best Bond and it's 2434 01:46:25,800 --> 01:46:28,919 Speaker 2: not even close. I could explain it in excruciating detail 2435 01:46:29,000 --> 01:46:30,920 Speaker 2: why that is, but we don't have time. 2436 01:46:31,160 --> 01:46:35,679 Speaker 10: He was fantastic, But to be consistent with my take 2437 01:46:35,720 --> 01:46:40,360 Speaker 10: on Jaws, his movies were obviously came out a very 2438 01:46:40,400 --> 01:46:42,559 Speaker 10: long time ago, so it's a little bit of a 2439 01:46:42,600 --> 01:46:43,920 Speaker 10: different level of. 2440 01:46:43,960 --> 01:46:44,960 Speaker 4: Do they not hold up? 2441 01:46:45,920 --> 01:46:48,519 Speaker 2: James Pettigrew, the most interesting Patriots fan in the world 2442 01:46:48,520 --> 01:46:52,840 Speaker 2: and probably our closest listener to James Bond said Brosnin 2443 01:46:53,000 --> 01:46:56,080 Speaker 2: was the best. Craig is too emotional. He needs to 2444 01:46:56,120 --> 01:46:59,479 Speaker 2: smoke some weed and PS is the only US call 2445 01:46:59,479 --> 01:47:01,960 Speaker 2: and number of the free phone. One can't seem to connect. 2446 01:47:02,720 --> 01:47:03,200 Speaker 2: I don't know. 2447 01:47:03,600 --> 01:47:05,000 Speaker 11: Pierce Brosident was very good. 2448 01:47:05,240 --> 01:47:08,000 Speaker 5: I would like a book recommendation. I'd like to read it, 2449 01:47:08,080 --> 01:47:11,840 Speaker 5: James Bond book. I'll do that for anyone. I guess, kay, 2450 01:47:11,960 --> 01:47:12,640 Speaker 5: I will. 2451 01:47:14,720 --> 01:47:18,920 Speaker 4: Okay, you're leaving me, Mike. I'll be the only one 2452 01:47:18,920 --> 01:47:22,599 Speaker 4: that has no interest, no knowledge I'm interested in the books, 2453 01:47:23,000 --> 01:47:26,320 Speaker 4: and people say it's it really describes the character. And 2454 01:47:26,360 --> 01:47:28,439 Speaker 4: I mean I kind of have a you know, preaking 2455 01:47:28,560 --> 01:47:30,320 Speaker 4: not preconc but I have a notion of what James 2456 01:47:30,360 --> 01:47:32,040 Speaker 4: Bond is based on the handful of movies that I 2457 01:47:32,040 --> 01:47:32,360 Speaker 4: have seen. 2458 01:47:32,400 --> 01:47:37,000 Speaker 2: So who was the character Robert Ludlam's book, his famous 2459 01:47:37,800 --> 01:47:38,839 Speaker 2: spy character. 2460 01:47:40,080 --> 01:47:45,360 Speaker 5: Oh, Jason Born read books? Uh did you? I think 2461 01:47:45,360 --> 01:47:47,240 Speaker 5: I did read the first one. But I saw the movies. 2462 01:47:47,439 --> 01:47:48,559 Speaker 2: Yeah, well the books. 2463 01:47:48,680 --> 01:47:51,560 Speaker 8: Matt Damon taking somebody down with a rolldout magazine. That 2464 01:47:51,600 --> 01:47:52,120 Speaker 8: was pretty fun. 2465 01:47:52,160 --> 01:47:55,160 Speaker 10: There's nothing wrong with some Matt Damon action movie. Paul 2466 01:47:55,280 --> 01:47:58,599 Speaker 10: doesn't not interested, also doesn't like Born. 2467 01:47:58,920 --> 01:48:01,599 Speaker 4: I saw all of them. Yeah, you Identity Supremacy. I 2468 01:48:01,640 --> 01:48:03,599 Speaker 4: watched The Boy. I told you it's not an anti 2469 01:48:03,720 --> 01:48:07,080 Speaker 4: action movie thing. It's that's not accurate. It's a little 2470 01:48:07,120 --> 01:48:10,320 Speaker 4: bit of an anti c G. I like superhero thing 2471 01:48:10,439 --> 01:48:13,880 Speaker 4: that I'm not really Jameson. No, no, no, So I'm 2472 01:48:13,880 --> 01:48:15,320 Speaker 4: just saying it has nothing to do with it. 2473 01:48:15,960 --> 01:48:22,040 Speaker 2: Transformers. No, tried to use a little, use a lot less. 2474 01:48:23,920 --> 01:48:29,200 Speaker 4: I have seen, I mean nowhere near like all of them, 2475 01:48:29,320 --> 01:48:32,439 Speaker 4: like you, all of the Marvel movies, all the you know. 2476 01:48:32,560 --> 01:48:36,439 Speaker 4: But I have seen probably double digits, and I don't 2477 01:48:36,600 --> 01:48:38,760 Speaker 4: dislike them. They're just not my thing. I don't have 2478 01:48:38,800 --> 01:48:41,360 Speaker 4: to rush out to go see them, you know. And 2479 01:48:41,400 --> 01:48:44,320 Speaker 4: I've heard really good things about the most recent Superman thing. 2480 01:48:45,400 --> 01:48:47,240 Speaker 4: Every everybody that has gone to see it says it 2481 01:48:47,280 --> 01:48:54,799 Speaker 4: was pretty good, worth worth worth a watch. Politics rails 2482 01:48:54,840 --> 01:48:58,080 Speaker 4: really short, huh wow, what politics? 2483 01:48:58,280 --> 01:48:58,960 Speaker 11: Just watch the movie. 2484 01:48:58,960 --> 01:48:59,360 Speaker 5: It's great. 2485 01:49:00,120 --> 01:49:03,639 Speaker 3: James Gunman in the Immigrant comments about Superman the fan 2486 01:49:03,720 --> 01:49:04,600 Speaker 3: days and half. 2487 01:49:04,640 --> 01:49:07,960 Speaker 11: Well, it's funny because I didn't catch it. I know 2488 01:49:08,000 --> 01:49:09,680 Speaker 11: what he's talking about, and I'm going to choose to 2489 01:49:09,680 --> 01:49:10,519 Speaker 11: stay away from it. 2490 01:49:10,439 --> 01:49:15,360 Speaker 2: Because Randy writes in he's from Providence. What I was saying, Oh, 2491 01:49:15,680 --> 01:49:18,840 Speaker 2: we couldn't hear him was May's growth should be about 2492 01:49:18,880 --> 01:49:22,559 Speaker 2: limiting mistakes, mirroring the Tom Brady planned years ago where 2493 01:49:22,840 --> 01:49:25,240 Speaker 2: he wasn't asked to do a lot, just not lose 2494 01:49:25,280 --> 01:49:27,519 Speaker 2: games and learned to take what the defense gives him. 2495 01:49:27,560 --> 01:49:29,439 Speaker 4: And you guys made fun of me when I pointed 2496 01:49:29,439 --> 01:49:31,280 Speaker 4: out that he led the league in touchdown passes in 2497 01:49:31,360 --> 01:49:31,720 Speaker 4: year two. 2498 01:49:31,960 --> 01:49:34,080 Speaker 11: Well, he just didn't lose the game. 2499 01:49:34,120 --> 01:49:34,920 Speaker 5: He managed it. 2500 01:49:34,840 --> 01:49:37,599 Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, just managing games. Leading the league in touchdown pass. 2501 01:49:37,760 --> 01:49:39,880 Speaker 2: That was a long time ago, but Josh Allen had 2502 01:49:39,880 --> 01:49:42,639 Speaker 2: a similar growth arc. Last year. There were only six 2503 01:49:42,720 --> 01:49:45,920 Speaker 2: quarterbacks with a worse interception rate than May's three point 2504 01:49:46,000 --> 01:49:51,639 Speaker 2: zero Richardson, Jamis, Winston, will Levis, Kirk, Cousins, Gardner, Minshew 2505 01:49:52,000 --> 01:49:55,280 Speaker 2: and Mac Jones. Learning to limit mistakes is definitely something 2506 01:49:55,320 --> 01:49:55,880 Speaker 2: he needs to. 2507 01:49:55,840 --> 01:49:58,280 Speaker 4: Work on the part, I agree one hundred percent. 2508 01:49:58,400 --> 01:50:00,439 Speaker 2: Do you hear that Justin Field's got car it off to. 2509 01:50:00,479 --> 01:50:04,200 Speaker 4: Day He's okay, Oh he's okay to sorry, dislocated toe 2510 01:50:04,320 --> 01:50:06,640 Speaker 4: not considered significant, okay. 2511 01:50:06,560 --> 01:50:09,559 Speaker 11: To which I say, the hysteriover was. 2512 01:50:11,160 --> 01:50:14,280 Speaker 4: You get carted off with it just located to that. 2513 01:50:14,240 --> 01:50:16,880 Speaker 10: Could have just been like their practice facility. It's like 2514 01:50:17,080 --> 01:50:17,800 Speaker 10: it's a long while. 2515 01:50:17,880 --> 01:50:20,479 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'd have to see it to make a definitive 2516 01:50:21,120 --> 01:50:21,760 Speaker 4: that was I. 2517 01:50:21,680 --> 01:50:24,880 Speaker 10: Think that was Twitter like way overreacting to something that 2518 01:50:25,040 --> 01:50:26,200 Speaker 10: was ended up being. 2519 01:50:26,080 --> 01:50:28,080 Speaker 4: It sounds like people weren't really paying attention all of 2520 01:50:28,080 --> 01:50:30,040 Speaker 4: a sudden the quarterback went down and they were like, oh, 2521 01:50:30,080 --> 01:50:31,080 Speaker 4: he's getting carted off. 2522 01:50:31,160 --> 01:50:32,240 Speaker 11: Yeah. 2523 01:50:32,280 --> 01:50:33,760 Speaker 8: I like the way of looking at that though for 2524 01:50:33,840 --> 01:50:36,599 Speaker 8: me and not focusing on we need you to be superman, 2525 01:50:36,840 --> 01:50:40,480 Speaker 8: you know, just the baby steps, clean it up, play consistent, 2526 01:50:40,880 --> 01:50:44,280 Speaker 8: take the profit, and if we get in a situation 2527 01:50:44,400 --> 01:50:47,720 Speaker 8: or a game where we need you to do something special, hopefully. 2528 01:50:47,720 --> 01:50:48,680 Speaker 4: You can do it right. 2529 01:50:48,720 --> 01:50:50,120 Speaker 5: You don't have to put the pressure on you to 2530 01:50:50,200 --> 01:50:51,400 Speaker 5: be special. Just execute. 2531 01:50:51,560 --> 01:50:52,280 Speaker 4: Agree with everything. 2532 01:50:52,320 --> 01:50:55,400 Speaker 10: Mike just said, yeah, not to you know, compare him 2533 01:50:55,400 --> 01:50:57,640 Speaker 10: to Mahomes, but like I feel like that that was 2534 01:50:57,680 --> 01:51:00,960 Speaker 10: like sort of Mahomes' evolution more than Josh. Like now 2535 01:51:01,000 --> 01:51:04,280 Speaker 10: Mahomes just does just enough to win the game. Like 2536 01:51:04,360 --> 01:51:06,880 Speaker 10: he doesn't. He doesn't run around as much as he 2537 01:51:06,960 --> 01:51:09,400 Speaker 10: used to, and he's not throwing bombs all the time 2538 01:51:09,439 --> 01:51:11,880 Speaker 10: like he did it early on in his career. Now 2539 01:51:12,160 --> 01:51:15,479 Speaker 10: he is a very very good game manager. 2540 01:51:15,640 --> 01:51:19,960 Speaker 4: So I would just say in terms of statistics, I 2541 01:51:20,000 --> 01:51:24,000 Speaker 4: don't really care. I don't think Jayden Daniels the statistics 2542 01:51:24,120 --> 01:51:27,360 Speaker 4: were eye popping last year and I'm just calling him 2543 01:51:27,400 --> 01:51:29,639 Speaker 4: up right now. He completed sixty ninety percent of his throws, 2544 01:51:29,680 --> 01:51:31,680 Speaker 4: which is a high. That's a pretty high completion rate 2545 01:51:31,720 --> 01:51:34,280 Speaker 4: for a rookie. Thirty five hundred and sixty eight yards, 2546 01:51:34,280 --> 01:51:38,680 Speaker 4: twenty five touchdowns, nine picks. His stats are pedestrian, I 2547 01:51:38,720 --> 01:51:43,120 Speaker 4: mean one hundred passer rating nowadays is like twentieth, right, 2548 01:51:44,120 --> 01:51:47,120 Speaker 4: but what did he do in the situations that Evan's 2549 01:51:47,120 --> 01:51:51,559 Speaker 4: talking about. He was the reason they won. So yes, 2550 01:51:51,640 --> 01:51:54,920 Speaker 4: he doesn't have to be superman for seventeen games for 2551 01:51:55,000 --> 01:51:59,160 Speaker 4: four quarters, but he might have to be superman more 2552 01:51:59,160 --> 01:52:02,519 Speaker 4: than a half dozen times when it counts. That was 2553 01:52:02,560 --> 01:52:05,839 Speaker 4: Tom Brady. And by the way, that was Tom Brady 2554 01:52:06,080 --> 01:52:09,559 Speaker 4: in two thousand and one when the game needed to 2555 01:52:09,600 --> 01:52:14,360 Speaker 4: be won. He was near perfect almost always fourth quarter 2556 01:52:14,400 --> 01:52:18,840 Speaker 4: in Denver notwithstanding. Right, Yeah, I mean he that's what 2557 01:52:18,960 --> 01:52:21,960 Speaker 4: separates these guys. Jayden Daniels didn't just light up every 2558 01:52:22,000 --> 01:52:25,280 Speaker 4: team he played last year. Now this doesn't also give 2559 01:52:25,320 --> 01:52:27,880 Speaker 4: his rushing totals, but Drake May's gonna have good rushing 2560 01:52:27,920 --> 01:52:31,720 Speaker 4: totals too. He had great rushing numbers last year. What 2561 01:52:31,760 --> 01:52:33,479 Speaker 4: does he do when the game's on the line, and 2562 01:52:33,520 --> 01:52:35,760 Speaker 4: can he keep those turn itovers down? 2563 01:52:36,520 --> 01:52:37,200 Speaker 2: How cool is he? 2564 01:52:37,240 --> 01:52:39,920 Speaker 10: In the pressure from Daniels last year or through the 2565 01:52:39,920 --> 01:52:41,720 Speaker 10: game when he touched down to McLaurin and just like 2566 01:52:41,760 --> 01:52:44,680 Speaker 10: put it right, I was just thinking, yeah, it is 2567 01:52:44,760 --> 01:52:47,280 Speaker 10: like under like a game when he walk off type 2568 01:52:47,280 --> 01:52:49,559 Speaker 10: of touchdown and just throw him right down the field 2569 01:52:49,560 --> 01:52:51,120 Speaker 10: and then threw an absolute dime. 2570 01:52:51,240 --> 01:52:52,920 Speaker 4: But I mean even thinking early in the year, there 2571 01:52:52,960 --> 01:52:54,720 Speaker 4: was a game against Cincinnati. I want to say it 2572 01:52:54,760 --> 01:52:56,800 Speaker 4: was like a Monday night game or a Thursday night game, 2573 01:52:57,320 --> 01:53:01,240 Speaker 4: and they just Cincinnati just kept scoring and getting within 2574 01:53:01,280 --> 01:53:04,599 Speaker 4: a score. And the fourth quarter, you know those those 2575 01:53:04,720 --> 01:53:07,920 Speaker 4: hard first downs that you have to crank out. Fourth down, 2576 01:53:07,960 --> 01:53:10,559 Speaker 4: they go for already runs for it, third and long. 2577 01:53:10,640 --> 01:53:13,160 Speaker 4: They throw a pass, deep pass to mcclorin on the side, 2578 01:53:13,160 --> 01:53:14,960 Speaker 4: and they put the game away with a touchdown pass 2579 01:53:15,000 --> 01:53:16,840 Speaker 4: beating the blitz they sent everybody at them. 2580 01:53:16,880 --> 01:53:18,120 Speaker 11: I think we're talking about the same point. 2581 01:53:18,160 --> 01:53:22,400 Speaker 4: Those the individual those are the individual moments where games 2582 01:53:22,479 --> 01:53:26,160 Speaker 4: need to be won. How do you play that? Is Superman? Again, 2583 01:53:26,439 --> 01:53:29,599 Speaker 4: the stats don't tell you he's Superman. Twenty five and nine. 2584 01:53:29,880 --> 01:53:32,519 Speaker 4: That's a really good rookie year. It's a really good 2585 01:53:32,600 --> 01:53:35,960 Speaker 4: rookie year. But it's not anything that I would say 2586 01:53:36,000 --> 01:53:37,920 Speaker 4: that there's no way Drake May's going to throw go 2587 01:53:38,000 --> 01:53:39,920 Speaker 4: twenty five and nine this year. Of course he could. 2588 01:53:40,439 --> 01:53:42,400 Speaker 10: I feel like a lot of that is like where 2589 01:53:42,920 --> 01:53:46,960 Speaker 10: you're most confident about like Rabel, and I feel like 2590 01:53:47,080 --> 01:53:50,360 Speaker 10: Rabel is going to put a much bigger emphasis on 2591 01:53:50,680 --> 01:53:54,880 Speaker 10: leadership and clutch and knowing what the game needs when 2592 01:53:54,880 --> 01:53:57,919 Speaker 10: it needs it, and like not so much about making 2593 01:53:58,160 --> 01:54:00,759 Speaker 10: you know, highlight real plays that they're going to on 2594 01:54:00,760 --> 01:54:03,040 Speaker 10: on Drake May's you know, melt when they show him 2595 01:54:03,080 --> 01:54:05,639 Speaker 10: on Sports Center, but like more so like all these 2596 01:54:05,640 --> 01:54:08,840 Speaker 10: other little things that we're talking about, and I feel 2597 01:54:08,840 --> 01:54:12,280 Speaker 10: like Rabel is already sort of trying to hammer some 2598 01:54:12,320 --> 01:54:13,879 Speaker 10: of those things even in practice. 2599 01:54:14,000 --> 01:54:16,439 Speaker 8: It's a great comment, paulse It's just it's this isn't 2600 01:54:16,479 --> 01:54:19,759 Speaker 8: exactly what I mean, but it's like special is intangible almost, 2601 01:54:19,800 --> 01:54:21,439 Speaker 8: and you can look at the guys who throw the 2602 01:54:21,479 --> 01:54:24,040 Speaker 8: most touchdowns and you know, throw the most interceptions. But 2603 01:54:24,160 --> 01:54:27,519 Speaker 8: really the trait that's going to define greatness in the 2604 01:54:27,600 --> 01:54:30,479 Speaker 8: NFL the quarterback position is do you perform when the 2605 01:54:30,520 --> 01:54:32,160 Speaker 8: game's on the line and win those games. 2606 01:54:32,200 --> 01:54:34,000 Speaker 4: Like, let's not make this out to be like if 2607 01:54:34,000 --> 01:54:36,720 Speaker 4: we can get just a nice game manager who stays 2608 01:54:36,720 --> 01:54:39,840 Speaker 4: out of trouble and avoids mistakes, that's not what we're 2609 01:54:39,880 --> 01:54:43,000 Speaker 4: looking for. That's not enough. I don't I'm just making 2610 01:54:43,080 --> 01:54:45,400 Speaker 4: for myself. That's not enough for me. They chock this 2611 01:54:45,440 --> 01:54:47,440 Speaker 4: guy with a third overall pick. I don't want Trent 2612 01:54:47,520 --> 01:54:51,120 Speaker 4: Dilfer I don't want to win a title despite the quarterback. 2613 01:54:51,400 --> 01:54:53,520 Speaker 4: I want to win a title because of the quarterback. 2614 01:54:54,360 --> 01:54:57,200 Speaker 4: And that will remain to be seening. Don't don't lose 2615 01:54:57,240 --> 01:54:59,200 Speaker 4: the game in the first three quarters and be ready 2616 01:54:59,240 --> 01:54:59,960 Speaker 4: to win the game in the four. 2617 01:55:00,120 --> 01:55:01,920 Speaker 10: And that's like the line that they have to balance 2618 01:55:01,960 --> 01:55:04,680 Speaker 10: because like, in order to get the turnovers down and stuff, 2619 01:55:04,680 --> 01:55:06,560 Speaker 10: he's going to have to be a little bit more conservative. 2620 01:55:06,560 --> 01:55:08,240 Speaker 10: But you also don't want it to be a detriment 2621 01:55:08,280 --> 01:55:11,800 Speaker 10: where it's it's Trent dover right, you know you wanted 2622 01:55:11,880 --> 01:55:14,480 Speaker 10: to You want to still have that balance of him 2623 01:55:14,520 --> 01:55:15,800 Speaker 10: being able to go out and make plays. 2624 01:55:15,840 --> 01:55:17,560 Speaker 5: And I love his aggressiveness going down the field. 2625 01:55:17,560 --> 01:55:19,480 Speaker 8: It's something that stood out to me last year in camp, 2626 01:55:19,560 --> 01:55:21,520 Speaker 8: like he just hope they don't take that away from 2627 01:55:22,000 --> 01:55:24,120 Speaker 8: you know, I'm a little I am too. 2628 01:55:24,880 --> 01:55:26,760 Speaker 2: Kai James writes, and I now you all might be 2629 01:55:26,800 --> 01:55:30,680 Speaker 2: tired of the uniform conversations, but you're failing to highlight 2630 01:55:30,720 --> 01:55:34,560 Speaker 2: one major issue with the Blueberries. I myself want the 2631 01:55:34,640 --> 01:55:37,680 Speaker 2: Dynasty uniforms back, not only because the silver on them, 2632 01:55:37,680 --> 01:55:41,080 Speaker 2: but because of the number, lettering font. When they change 2633 01:55:41,080 --> 01:55:43,840 Speaker 2: the unis in twenty twenty, they changed the lettering and 2634 01:55:43,960 --> 01:55:48,080 Speaker 2: numbers to a more straight looking font. Look at Edelman's 2635 01:55:48,120 --> 01:55:51,200 Speaker 2: eleven from both you will notice they removed the bottom 2636 01:55:51,320 --> 01:55:56,000 Speaker 2: stand under the number one. Likewise, the last name lettering 2637 01:55:56,040 --> 01:56:00,560 Speaker 2: looks much more boring without the traditional Patriots font bordering. 2638 01:56:01,160 --> 01:56:03,920 Speaker 2: I feel as if that is a sneaky underlying reason 2639 01:56:03,920 --> 01:56:08,840 Speaker 2: why we don't like Kai in Kentucky's my peeps. I totally, 2640 01:56:09,000 --> 01:56:10,400 Speaker 2: he calls himself Kentucky James. 2641 01:56:10,440 --> 01:56:11,440 Speaker 5: It's such a nerd thing too. 2642 01:56:11,440 --> 01:56:13,320 Speaker 4: But like I even just really liked the font that 2643 01:56:13,360 --> 01:56:16,000 Speaker 4: they had for the name plates on the Dynasty uniforms. 2644 01:56:16,120 --> 01:56:18,440 Speaker 4: And I can't explain why, but everything he said, I 2645 01:56:18,920 --> 01:56:19,920 Speaker 4: get it. Congratulation. 2646 01:56:20,880 --> 01:56:22,240 Speaker 11: The blueberries just aren't good. 2647 01:56:22,560 --> 01:56:24,920 Speaker 10: It's okay, yeah, no, no, And I don't think I 2648 01:56:24,920 --> 01:56:26,720 Speaker 10: can say that because I don't think they're gonna wear 2649 01:56:27,000 --> 01:56:30,480 Speaker 10: the full blueberry anymore. I think they're gonna do blue 2650 01:56:30,480 --> 01:56:33,080 Speaker 10: on top with silver pants, so it's I think we're 2651 01:56:33,200 --> 01:56:36,200 Speaker 10: away from that. But the look of the one color 2652 01:56:36,320 --> 01:56:38,720 Speaker 10: from it's just it just too much blue. 2653 01:56:38,800 --> 01:56:39,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, too much? 2654 01:56:40,400 --> 01:56:43,840 Speaker 2: All right, listen, that's gonna be it for this edition 2655 01:56:44,400 --> 01:56:49,160 Speaker 2: of Patriots Unfiltered. We've got practice tomorrow, so we'll be 2656 01:56:49,240 --> 01:56:51,800 Speaker 2: out there and you guys will have your wrap up 2657 01:56:51,840 --> 01:56:54,880 Speaker 2: podcast right after that camp cast. Yep, so we'll have 2658 01:56:54,920 --> 01:56:58,839 Speaker 2: that same thing on Saturday. There'll be another practice on Saturday, 2659 01:56:58,840 --> 01:57:01,880 Speaker 2: which will be at players are Off on Sunday, and 2660 01:57:01,920 --> 01:57:04,000 Speaker 2: then we'll be back at it on Monday with a 2661 01:57:04,120 --> 01:57:08,960 Speaker 2: live show from practice first day of pads and we 2662 01:57:09,040 --> 01:57:12,400 Speaker 2: will be there. So until then, everybody, have a good 2663 01:57:12,400 --> 01:57:16,120 Speaker 2: weekend and as far as this show, we'll see him Monday. 2664 01:57:16,600 --> 01:57:22,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, Hey, this is Deuce. Thanks for tuning into the show. 2665 01:57:22,640 --> 01:57:24,200 Speaker 4: If you really want to help us, make sure you 2666 01:57:24,320 --> 01:57:26,760 Speaker 4: like us wherever you get your podcasts like Apple Podcasts 2667 01:57:26,800 --> 01:57:29,040 Speaker 4: or Spotify. Also make sure you follow us on the 2668 01:57:29,040 --> 01:57:31,200 Speaker 4: New England Patriots YouTube channel to see this show and 2669 01:57:31,240 --> 01:57:33,400 Speaker 4: everything else that we do here at the Patriots. Thanks 2670 01:57:33,400 --> 01:58:07,640 Speaker 4: a lot,