1 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:03,520 Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 2 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:07,120 Speaker 1: Sports Radio Our two on this Thursday. I'm not going 3 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:11,080 Speaker 1: to begin to recap what our one was. You can 4 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 1: check it out on the podcast. Come on in and 5 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:17,160 Speaker 1: stay a while. Chris mad Dog Russo will stop by, 6 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:20,599 Speaker 1: as will the actor who portrays Jerry West in the 7 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 1: HBO series on the Lakers Showtime Winning Time. Jason Clark 8 00:00:25,079 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 1: will join us as well. Not winning time for these Lakers. 9 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:33,560 Speaker 1: They lost to the lowly Houston Rockets last night in overtime. 10 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:38,520 Speaker 1: Here is the former Laker great James Worthy. I didn't 11 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:41,559 Speaker 1: think that we could hit a new low, but we 12 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:45,199 Speaker 1: hit a new low tonight. The worst team in the 13 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:49,600 Speaker 1: league to be able to dominate like they did in overtime. 14 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 1: You know, at the beginning of the season, there was 15 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:56,240 Speaker 1: a lot of expectations about this team to win, and 16 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 1: I think they are at a point where they know 17 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:02,639 Speaker 1: they're not going to meet those expectations. It's almost like 18 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 1: they're not dead on arrival, but they just don't have 19 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:11,399 Speaker 1: that tenacity. They don't have that will to work their 20 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:16,080 Speaker 1: way out of this, even to get to the playing game. 21 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:19,200 Speaker 1: And you know, you would think they would might be 22 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 1: able to with a healthy team. But I don't even think. 23 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 1: It doesn't seem like they believe in anything. I'm with 24 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:28,840 Speaker 1: James on this. It feels like each time they have 25 00:01:28,959 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 1: one of these losses, I go, Okay, that's as low 26 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 1: as they can go. No, as low as they can 27 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:35,320 Speaker 1: go is you don't even make the play in game. 28 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 1: That's all that's left here. Because can Anthony Davis come back? Okay? 29 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:44,319 Speaker 1: Can Lebron put it together for a couple of games? Okay? 30 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:47,319 Speaker 1: First of all, they don't play defense. Doesn't seem like 31 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 1: they care. Frank Vogel is not going to be the 32 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 1: coach next year. They're going to get rid of Russell Westbrook. 33 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 1: I don't know who they bring in. It's Lebron and 34 00:01:55,240 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 1: Anthony Davis. Unless Lebron says to the Lakers, look, it's 35 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 1: better if I leave you guys can start over with 36 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 1: Anthony Davis as your centerpiece. I don't know, but when 37 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 1: I watch them play, there is no sense of urgency. 38 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:13,360 Speaker 1: And I can always tell on the defensive side of things, 39 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 1: and how you are in the huddle, are you animated? 40 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 1: Somebody taking charge? There is there a spirit there and 41 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 1: there's none. It's one of those where you know, the 42 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 1: body's not cold, but it's dying. And that's what I 43 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 1: look at when I see the Lakers and Lebron is 44 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 1: putting up good numbers. As I said a couple of 45 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 1: days ago, I think there's going to be more emphasis 46 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:39,520 Speaker 1: on passing Carl Malone as the second leading score of 47 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 1: all time, because you're not going to be talking about 48 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:45,520 Speaker 1: what's going on going into the playoffs, making the playoffs, 49 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:50,520 Speaker 1: like you lost to the Rockets, and the Rockets aren't good, 50 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 1: but this was there. You know, we're going to gear 51 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 1: up to beat the Lakers and they celebrate it, and 52 00:02:56,880 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 1: good for them. Celebrate these small victories or in that 53 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 1: a big victory. They beat the Lakers. All right, Phone 54 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:06,080 Speaker 1: calls always welcome. Eight seven seven three d P Show 55 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:08,800 Speaker 1: email address DP at dan Patrick dot com, Twitter handle 56 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 1: a DPS show. As I mentioned, Chris mad Dog Russo 57 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:16,240 Speaker 1: will join us coming up. Colts traded. Carson wentz to 58 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:20,040 Speaker 1: the Washington commanders. The word that I saw in a 59 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 1: lot of the articles, desperate desperation commanders. Did they need 60 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 1: to give up a couple of draft picks? I would 61 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 1: have thought, Hey, will you pay his salary? Will you 62 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:33,640 Speaker 1: take his salary? Off our hands, and then you throw 63 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 1: in a couple of draft picks, and I'm going who 64 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 1: were the Commanders bidding against? Now, okay, there is a 65 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 1: report there are other teams that were interested in Carson Wentz. Okay, 66 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 1: maybe I'll go back to remember when Philadelphia was fielding 67 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:52,839 Speaker 1: offers plural and they weren't. And I told you that, 68 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 1: and I got criticized by some guy on the NFL network. 69 00:03:56,240 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 1: I'm like, uh no, there's only one team did in 70 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 1: Carson Wentz, and that was Indianapolis. And now you know 71 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 1: that Jim Ersay wouldn't even meet with Carson Wentz. Carson 72 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 1: Wentz wanted to have one of those Hey, season ended. 73 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 1: I want to go in and talk to you, maybe 74 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 1: sum it up, apologize. If Jim Ersey reportedly wouldn't meet 75 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:21,279 Speaker 1: with Carson Wentz and then next thing you know, you 76 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:26,280 Speaker 1: trade him to Washington. I wouldn't rule out Washington taking 77 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 1: taking a quarterback, even in the first round. I wouldn't 78 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:33,480 Speaker 1: rule that out. They got the tenth pick, I I 79 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:35,600 Speaker 1: think there's a really good chance that they would. I 80 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:38,480 Speaker 1: would do that, but I would not take Carson Wentz. 81 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 1: And one of those that I'm going to kick the 82 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 1: tires on him and go, you know, let's see if 83 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 1: it works out. And if it doesn't, I kind of 84 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 1: I don't want to take somebody for twenty eight million 85 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 1: dollars a couple of draft picks here and say if 86 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 1: it works out, it's you know, I kind of like 87 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:57,680 Speaker 1: it to a pre nup. Hey, yeah, I love you, 88 00:04:57,760 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 1: let's get married. But you know what, I think we 89 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 1: need to a prenup. Wait, but do you love me? 90 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 1: I do? But it kind of comes with us a 91 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:10,720 Speaker 1: caveat here. But the upside is there. For Carson Wentz, 92 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 1: I just think from what I've been told, he needs 93 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 1: to be as focused on his personality, his demeanor, his 94 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 1: leadership as he does his actual football performance. And that's 95 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 1: saying a lot at that position. Baseball canceled more games. 96 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:31,479 Speaker 1: Watch Tiger go into the Hall of Fame. Last night, 97 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:35,719 Speaker 1: his daughter gave the speech to induct him into the 98 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:39,239 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. The nets at the seventy six ers tonight, 99 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 1: and this is I'm trying to think of a more 100 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 1: hyped game where the reason why you would tune in 101 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 1: is because a guy is going to sit on the 102 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 1: bench and not even play. This is in Philly and 103 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 1: we're gonna have Ben Simmons. You know, if you're playing, 104 00:05:57,200 --> 00:05:59,839 Speaker 1: it would be better because if you're on the floor, 105 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 1: like you're away from the crowd, he's gonna be right 106 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 1: there on the bench, and I'm sure he's gonna get 107 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 1: an earful there in Philadelphia. Yeah. Yeah, it's like you're 108 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:14,280 Speaker 1: kind of tuning in for the crowd tonight. Yeah, it's weird. Yeah. 109 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 1: Don't you think that Ben Simmons and the Nets will 110 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 1: not play the night for some reason, will be suddenly 111 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:22,360 Speaker 1: healthy in two or three games from now, not nine 112 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 1: games from now, but two or three. You can't do 113 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:27,360 Speaker 1: the next game. Okay, let's do over under. I have 114 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 1: the schedule, okay, Ben Simmons, I'm gonna put it at 115 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:33,840 Speaker 1: two and a half games after this one. Okay, so 116 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:37,479 Speaker 1: after the playing at Philly, their home against New York, 117 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 1: at Orlando, home against Dallas, home against Portland. Pick your game. 118 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:46,680 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say home against Portland, home against Portland, not 119 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:50,120 Speaker 1: at Orlando. No one'll be watching. Orlando's not the roughest 120 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:55,159 Speaker 1: crowd in the world. I guess is. I'm gonna have him, 121 00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 1: you know, I want him to have some familiar backgrounds 122 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:02,159 Speaker 1: there when he's shooting. So I would probably say a 123 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 1: home game, but you know, Portland would be my answer. There. 124 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 1: Let me see what else do I have here? Um. 125 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 1: I watched the Syracuse game. I watched that in real 126 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 1: time against Florida State, and I asked Paulli to pause 127 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 1: it because I'm watching the game. We just got finished 128 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 1: with the show and it was a noon tip off, 129 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 1: and uh, you know, here's Buddy Beheim, his father, of course, 130 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 1: the head coach, and there was a box out and 131 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 1: then he ended up turning and hitting the Florida State 132 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 1: player in the stomach and he got you know, look 133 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 1: to me, it looked like an aggressive box out, but 134 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 1: it didn't look like something that was egregious. It looked 135 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 1: like a basketball player. Well, I said to PAULI has said, 136 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 1: Buddy Beyheim just punched somebody and he the referee, was 137 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 1: behind the player who got punched, and I said, Paully, 138 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 1: pause it. He's going to get kicked out of the game. Well, 139 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 1: they didn't kick him out of the game. And then 140 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 1: I wondered if retroactively you could go back and the 141 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 1: ACC would look at this and then suspend him. And 142 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 1: then Jay Billis said, no, you can't do it. It's 143 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 1: the rule. Now, Buddy Beheim should have been thrown from 144 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:16,720 Speaker 1: the game, and you could suspend him for this next 145 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 1: game against Duke. But if you didn't do it in 146 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:21,240 Speaker 1: the moment, you're not supposed to be able to do 147 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 1: it retroactively. Here's Jim Beheim after the game talking about 148 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 1: his son and his punch Jim. Early in the first half, 149 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 1: there appeared to be a play where a Buddy caught 150 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 1: a Florida State player in the midsecond. I saw the player. 151 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:36,840 Speaker 1: The kid pushed him twice and he swung around and 152 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 1: hit him. I think it was Inadverton, but that's okay. 153 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:43,560 Speaker 1: I just watched the play. You go front right. It 154 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:45,760 Speaker 1: wasn't much of it wasn't part It was like, coach, 155 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:48,760 Speaker 1: I'm watching it right here. It's on ESPN and it's 156 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:52,000 Speaker 1: being shared all over social media. He punched him in 157 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 1: his stomach. It wasn't Inadverton. It would have been whatever 158 00:08:56,320 --> 00:08:59,559 Speaker 1: you said, Well, good, you say it. I just gave 159 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:05,200 Speaker 1: him my version of what I saw coaches speaking like 160 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 1: a coach, but speaking like a father. You know you're 161 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 1: going to protect your son. And I know people have 162 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 1: talked about Buddy Beheim nicest kid you'll ever meet, and 163 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 1: I'm sure he is. In this moment, he was wrong. 164 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:22,120 Speaker 1: Did he deliberately punch this player from Florida State? He did, 165 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:26,880 Speaker 1: didn't get caught got caught after. I can't suspend him 166 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 1: after if the rule says you can't do that. But 167 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 1: in the moment, I would have tossed Buddy from the game. 168 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:36,719 Speaker 1: Now he's going to be on the sidelines for Syracuse 169 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 1: game against Duke. Doesn't look like Syracuse gonna make the 170 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:43,840 Speaker 1: NCAA tournament. He's gonna probably end his career on the 171 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:47,080 Speaker 1: bench watching Syracuse play against Duke. Yeah, okay, if you 172 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 1: guys were in charge of discipline for the ACC, would 173 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:52,680 Speaker 1: any of these mitigating factors have affected your decision? He's 174 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 1: never been in trouble before for a violent act in 175 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:56,959 Speaker 1: the game. This is not like second or third offense 176 00:09:57,080 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 1: aka Grayson Allen. Second part, would you factory in the 177 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:04,680 Speaker 1: fact that he's a senior and it's the the ACC 178 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 1: tournaments going on, It's not just a regular season game. 179 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 1: Would either of those things be involved in your decision? No? No, yes, yes? 180 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:15,200 Speaker 1: Could you do what college football does or used to 181 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:17,319 Speaker 1: do it? The whole one half thing, make him sit 182 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:19,360 Speaker 1: out the first half or something like that, or is 183 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 1: that you got to take a stronger stand than that 184 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:23,720 Speaker 1: and make him miss the whole game. I you know, 185 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 1: whatever their discipline is, you know, I'm fine if if 186 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 1: it warrants that. But this is a situation where you 187 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:33,079 Speaker 1: have a rule in place, according to Jay Billis, and 188 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:38,319 Speaker 1: you know, Jay is saying you can't do that because 189 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 1: you're going to punish him after the fact, and there's 190 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:43,600 Speaker 1: a rule that says if you're going to punish, you 191 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 1: punish in the moment. They could have reviewed it in 192 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:49,600 Speaker 1: the moment. They didn't, which I'm surprised when you see 193 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 1: this player go down holding his stomach, and you know, 194 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 1: the player did say hey, they shouldn't suspend him, and 195 00:10:56,920 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 1: and and Buddy came up to him and I guess 196 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 1: said sorry couple of times after the game. But he 197 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:06,840 Speaker 1: punches him. This isn't inadvertent. He didn't sort of turn 198 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:09,920 Speaker 1: to go up up court and then run his fist 199 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:13,080 Speaker 1: into his stomach accidentally. He meant to hit him in 200 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:17,600 Speaker 1: the stomach and he did. That's all I mean it. 201 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 1: This kid goes down and it is doubled over like 202 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 1: that's if I'm an a ficial I at least I 203 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:28,439 Speaker 1: want to know how that happened. You're doubled over, So 204 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 1: you got hit with what an elbow? Oh? You got 205 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:35,719 Speaker 1: hit with a fist. Oh they should have looked at 206 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 1: it in the moment there. But if I look at it, 207 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:44,200 Speaker 1: I mean it's a closed fist elbow. We can look 208 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 1: at that as part of basketball. A fist an't no. Yes. 209 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 1: And that's the thing too, is that like the pushes 210 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:55,800 Speaker 1: that coach Beheim was describing, looked very much like a 211 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 1: basketball play. You know, you're sort of jockeying for position 212 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 1: down under the hoop, and you're shoulder to shoulder and 213 00:12:02,160 --> 00:12:03,839 Speaker 1: you move somebody out of the way. It feels a 214 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:06,320 Speaker 1: lot more like a basketball play than turning and punching 215 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 1: somebody in the stomach. The Florida State player had a 216 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 1: basketball play. Yeah, okay, now he's boxing out, which nobody 217 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 1: does in college basketball. But he does get into Buddy 218 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:21,120 Speaker 1: bay Hunt. But that doesn't mean that you get to 219 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:24,640 Speaker 1: turn and punch somebody. Now, you can get back at somebody. 220 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 1: Guys get back at players all the time different ways. 221 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:31,600 Speaker 1: But that's right there. It's just you and him under 222 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 1: the basket and it's plain for everybody to see except 223 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:38,200 Speaker 1: for the official. You know, who should hate this duke 224 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 1: their next opponent, because this is exactly when Syracuse pulls 225 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:43,560 Speaker 1: the upset, when their best player is out, when everyone 226 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 1: thinks they're going to miss the tournament. This is when Syracuse, 227 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:48,720 Speaker 1: with almost on life support, finds a way to make 228 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:53,440 Speaker 1: dancy tournament. Yeah, it's tough to watch, you know. Buddy 229 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:55,560 Speaker 1: bay Hum has had a really good career. He's averaging 230 00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:59,080 Speaker 1: nineteen a game. You know, tough to play, you know, 231 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:01,720 Speaker 1: with your dad as the coach, without us going well, 232 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:03,959 Speaker 1: would he be playing or starting or getting all those 233 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:06,679 Speaker 1: shots if it Dad wasn't the coach. Buddy Beaheim is 234 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 1: a legitimate player, good player and maybe gets chance play 235 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 1: in the NBA. He's a really good shooter. Size Yeah, 236 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 1: seton and even like the nicest people in the world, 237 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:20,160 Speaker 1: sometimes they lose their cool, you know, sometimes they do 238 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:23,439 Speaker 1: things that are out of character. It happens. It's totally humane. 239 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:26,319 Speaker 1: A couple of phone calls in here, by the way, 240 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:29,160 Speaker 1: the song that you want to turn off, that's our 241 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:33,200 Speaker 1: topic today. We all after we talk to Mad Dog 242 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:35,640 Speaker 1: russo we'll have that for you. We'll give you the 243 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 1: song that when it comes on, we turn it off 244 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:42,200 Speaker 1: and you'll be able to give us yours as well. Yeah, seton, 245 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 1: you've seem poised to. Are you gonna surprise me with 246 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:49,200 Speaker 1: your irritating song? No, I don't think so okay, I 247 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 1: don't think so okay. Delhi in Chicago, Hey, Deli, what's 248 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:55,560 Speaker 1: on your mind today? Hey Larry, Hey, thanks for taking 249 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 1: my phone call. Yeah, I want to talk about if 250 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 1: Pauli's all about stats my Chicago Bullshito win the championship. 251 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:07,320 Speaker 1: Okay I am. And also I tracked on Polly's ex girlfriend. 252 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:10,320 Speaker 1: I found her working at the International House of Pancakes. 253 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 1: Oh the eye hump, Yeah, thank you, delly. Uh, Polly 254 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:20,880 Speaker 1: dated a woman who had partial leg amputation. That's right, 255 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 1: long time ago. Yeah. Yeah, we can't go down this 256 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 1: road a gay. No, we would have one and done 257 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:33,560 Speaker 1: with that one. Oh wow, I didn't that way, Yes, 258 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:36,520 Speaker 1: that way? Come on, I'm not going to stand for you. 259 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:43,680 Speaker 1: Oh sorry? Is it? Carly in Kansas City? Hey Carly? 260 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:48,040 Speaker 1: How are you? First time? Long time Hi? Carly. So, 261 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:51,440 Speaker 1: my husband is actually an amputee. He's missing his entire 262 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:54,080 Speaker 1: right arm. He is a member of the Kansas City 263 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:57,920 Speaker 1: Chiefs coaching staff. So we have the unofficial amputeem makes 264 00:14:57,920 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 1: fun of rules. So, first of all, if you are 265 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:04,560 Speaker 1: a comedian, fair game. Eric stone Street is a huge 266 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 1: Kansas City Chiefs fan, very close with my husband Porter. 267 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 1: He actually gave Porter an arm in front of the 268 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:13,960 Speaker 1: entire team last year for Christmas. He also did a 269 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 1: presentation during COVID making fun of my husband for actually 270 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:22,000 Speaker 1: contracting COVID during the NFL season when he only has 271 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:24,720 Speaker 1: one hand to wash. So you are allowed to make 272 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 1: fun of antips if you're a comedian. Second, if you 273 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 1: are close friends or family, like I'm his wife, I 274 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:31,600 Speaker 1: could make fun so I would have to know how 275 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:34,480 Speaker 1: it ended between Collie and this girl, He's allowed to 276 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:37,160 Speaker 1: continue to make jokes, okay. And then the last rule 277 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:40,040 Speaker 1: is you can't make fun of person in front of 278 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 1: the person responsible for the accident. So like my husband's 279 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 1: father doesn't so much appreciate one arm jokes because he 280 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 1: was the one involved in the farming accident with my 281 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 1: husband when he lost his arm, So those are the 282 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:56,160 Speaker 1: unofficial anti te joke. Well, thank you, Carly, thank you, 283 00:15:56,200 --> 00:15:59,360 Speaker 1: we appreciate that. So Todd, she said, if you're a comedian, 284 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:05,200 Speaker 1: you can make which Paulie did date this woman? That's right? 285 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 1: Did you love her? It was not that long a relationship, Dan, 286 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:11,480 Speaker 1: It was more of a summer thing. But I remember 287 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 1: it was cut short. You can't say it. I could say, 288 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 1: just write the jokes and I'll deliver. Can't say it. 289 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 1: I oh, I see what I did. She actually got 290 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:23,240 Speaker 1: mad at me once. Honestly at this true story. There 291 00:16:23,280 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 1: was a guy on campus who's a very good athlete. 292 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:26,920 Speaker 1: He played on our football team at Southern Illinois and 293 00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:29,480 Speaker 1: he lost his arm in an accident, think a motorcycle accident. 294 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:31,720 Speaker 1: And he was a very good athlete. He was so 295 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 1: good that he won a boxing tournament with one arm 296 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:36,440 Speaker 1: on our like we did this boxing tournament. He came 297 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:37,880 Speaker 1: out to the bar one night and he just happened 298 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:39,960 Speaker 1: to be at the bar and I introduced the two shoes. 299 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 1: So you introduced him to me because you thought we'd 300 00:16:41,640 --> 00:16:43,600 Speaker 1: get along because he has one arm. I had nothing 301 00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 1: to do with it. He just showed up a show. 302 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:50,840 Speaker 1: That's it. How about we take a break though, mad 303 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 1: Dog Russo it's gonna Jane is coming up. We'll take 304 00:16:56,720 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 1: a break back after this and the Dan Patrick Show LifeLock. 305 00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:05,640 Speaker 1: LifeLock is here to help you and identity thieves. They 306 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:09,960 Speaker 1: do so many different things now, cybercrime, identity theft, how 307 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:12,840 Speaker 1: it affects our lives. 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It's almost like after thirty years, 336 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:45,359 Speaker 1: he's become an overnight sensation, because it feels like the 337 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:48,399 Speaker 1: rest of America is now experiencing Chris mad Dog Russo 338 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:51,359 Speaker 1: because he's on first take with Stephen A. Smith. Chris 339 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:54,720 Speaker 1: has been doing this for a long long time, battling 340 00:18:54,760 --> 00:19:00,680 Speaker 1: anybody everybody. Mad Dog Unleashed on Sirius XM Serious That's 341 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:03,720 Speaker 1: Channel eighty two, host a high Heat on Major League 342 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:09,800 Speaker 1: Baseball Network. Congrats Chris on this overnight success out of nowhere. Danny, 343 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:11,359 Speaker 1: you know how much I loved coming on. How you 344 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:15,000 Speaker 1: doing poll? Okay, I'm good, I'm good. You argue for 345 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:19,359 Speaker 1: a living. But when you go on first take, how much, say, 346 00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:21,520 Speaker 1: do you have in those topics that you're going to 347 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 1: be exploring? You know more than I thought. You know, 348 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:28,399 Speaker 1: you did a little baseball a couple of weeks ago. 349 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:33,720 Speaker 1: I suggested maybe something on Chazhevsky yesterday because obviously, you know, 350 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:36,959 Speaker 1: in the Duke game on Saturday and the fact they 351 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:39,399 Speaker 1: play today at noon. So I thought you had to 352 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 1: do a little college basketball. Um, you know, I'm careful 353 00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:45,119 Speaker 1: at Stevie Show. So I mean, I get you a 354 00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 1: new guy on the block. I don't want to make 355 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:50,040 Speaker 1: any waves. I thought maybe you had to do something 356 00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 1: on Calvin Ridley, you know with the gambling thing with 357 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:56,080 Speaker 1: the one year they agreed on that anyway, But I mean, 358 00:19:56,119 --> 00:20:00,480 Speaker 1: I think you know I will basically, I will be gentle, 359 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:02,959 Speaker 1: but i'll suggest. You know, what the hell, I've been 360 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:05,160 Speaker 1: doing this for a long time, and as you said, 361 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:07,360 Speaker 1: it's almost like I'm in debate my whole life. Half 362 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:10,560 Speaker 1: the time on Sirius, I'm talking to myself for three hours, 363 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:13,240 Speaker 1: So as a result, I come up on topics. I 364 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 1: did it with Mike for nineteen years. I've been on 365 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:18,840 Speaker 1: all these I've been on with your show a million times. 366 00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:20,679 Speaker 1: You know. I've had plenty of debates going back to 367 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:23,160 Speaker 1: your days at Sports Center, so it's almost like I've 368 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 1: been trained to do this. So I'm usually fairly comfortable. 369 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:29,600 Speaker 1: I think the two sports I'm a little shaky with 370 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:32,840 Speaker 1: right now, and there was a big boxing match Steeds great. 371 00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:34,800 Speaker 1: With that, i'd have a little work to do. And 372 00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:38,719 Speaker 1: NBA regular season, you know, especially right now where it's 373 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:40,280 Speaker 1: sort of in and out of the clouds. When I'm 374 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:43,440 Speaker 1: more into the college, you know, maybe it could be 375 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:46,040 Speaker 1: a little spotty, but you know, I'll adapt the way 376 00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:47,640 Speaker 1: I have to do that. But I've had a little say, 377 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 1: I've had some say, and what I say in a 378 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:52,200 Speaker 1: two hour thing, it's a long time two hours to talk. 379 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:54,720 Speaker 1: So I've had a little say, a little say the 380 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:58,800 Speaker 1: art of winning an argument? What is your art of 381 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:01,800 Speaker 1: winning an argument? Well, the old days with Mike, it 382 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:06,439 Speaker 1: was a case of you know, out screaming him and 383 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:08,320 Speaker 1: and you know, maybe figuring out a way to get 384 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:10,679 Speaker 1: you know, sort of wearing him down, you know, the 385 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:13,840 Speaker 1: battle of attrition. And I've actually Mike would or me 386 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:15,359 Speaker 1: would just go up the white flag, you know. And 387 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:16,639 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna win this one the hell of it, 388 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:20,399 Speaker 1: all right, you win in this particular situation where you 389 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:23,400 Speaker 1: don't want to come across as a loudmouth bully. As 390 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:26,119 Speaker 1: you said, you know who an America, those two Christus. 391 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:27,760 Speaker 1: So it is so you have to be a little 392 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:31,520 Speaker 1: more gentle. And again, you know, I still consider myself 393 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:34,679 Speaker 1: almost as a guest, more so as a semi co host, 394 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:38,439 Speaker 1: so I don't want to overstep my bounds. But the 395 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:40,560 Speaker 1: great thing about him, and I don't know if you 396 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:42,399 Speaker 1: know him that well, Dan, you may, I don't know 397 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:44,960 Speaker 1: what your relationship, but the great thing about him is 398 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:49,240 Speaker 1: he doesn't care who gets to credit as long as 399 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 1: the show is good. A lot of guys wouldn't do 400 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:53,239 Speaker 1: it that way. You know, in my show, I've been 401 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:54,880 Speaker 1: doing it for ten years. You're a guest, and you're 402 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:58,040 Speaker 1: gonna follow my lead. He doesn't seem to have that attitude. 403 00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:00,240 Speaker 1: So as a result, if I want to screaming yell 404 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:03,359 Speaker 1: about where Curry is with Bird I want to scream 405 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:07,040 Speaker 1: and yell about where Wilson is with Rogers, at least 406 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:09,320 Speaker 1: in unless than the first couple of appearances. He's let 407 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:11,840 Speaker 1: me do that. So I think I've learned in my 408 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:14,560 Speaker 1: life not to go too crazy because you can win 409 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:18,280 Speaker 1: an argument and still look bad. You know you can, 410 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:21,080 Speaker 1: all right, you win, but it doesn't come across well. 411 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:24,120 Speaker 1: And you also want to be likable. I mean, right, 412 00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:26,840 Speaker 1: you're on TV, you're on radio. There's got to be 413 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:30,240 Speaker 1: a little likability factor. So you want to be able 414 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:33,879 Speaker 1: to get your point across. Great if you win, but 415 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:36,159 Speaker 1: have some fun doing it, and you want that to 416 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:38,840 Speaker 1: come across. So if you have to lose an argument, 417 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:40,880 Speaker 1: for the psych of losing it because it's good TV 418 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:43,639 Speaker 1: and good radio. I think I didn't know this fifteen 419 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:46,520 Speaker 1: years ago. I probably know that now. He's a mad 420 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:49,399 Speaker 1: dog Russo. By the way, he's got a new series 421 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:53,480 Speaker 1: of episodes on his Digging Up the Past podcast debuts 422 00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:56,240 Speaker 1: this month. You focus on the history of the NCAA tournament. 423 00:22:56,280 --> 00:23:00,800 Speaker 1: First episode is magic Bird nineteen seventy nine title and 424 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:04,359 Speaker 1: you can get that on the Serious XM app. What's 425 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:06,760 Speaker 1: the one thing that you would want the audience to 426 00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:09,960 Speaker 1: take away from this that maybe you discovered on Bird 427 00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:13,879 Speaker 1: Magic nineteen seventy nine. Yeah, it's a this is gonna 428 00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:18,480 Speaker 1: be all about the eighties. And we did the first 429 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:22,359 Speaker 1: half first forty years last year. So this is the 430 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:25,159 Speaker 1: second part. We're gonna break it down into five parts 431 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:28,560 Speaker 1: to switch from NBC to CBS, A rise of the 432 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:31,640 Speaker 1: Big East Classic Games and the Bird Magic thing. Now, 433 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:34,800 Speaker 1: obviously Magic and Bird are you're not going to get them. 434 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:37,880 Speaker 1: So yeah, you know, I did. I did the interviews 435 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:40,200 Speaker 1: that Larry Brown was at the games. I did Packer, 436 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:42,320 Speaker 1: I did Bob Ryan. I think the one thing that 437 00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:46,280 Speaker 1: I didn't realize Ryan insisted and he was there, that 438 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:50,639 Speaker 1: Bird was hurt, that he hurt his wrists sometime in 439 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:54,040 Speaker 1: of course late in that year and didn't fuel right 440 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:57,119 Speaker 1: that night. Now he shot seven for twenty one and 441 00:23:57,359 --> 00:23:59,240 Speaker 1: was not a factor in the game. As you know, 442 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 1: Michigan Stay were you and I Rolla old enough to 443 00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:04,639 Speaker 1: know this. Michigan State was a much better team and 444 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:08,120 Speaker 1: berb was not one hundred percent. That's what That's what 445 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:14,399 Speaker 1: Ryan said emphatically, Packer. His theme is what you and 446 00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:16,879 Speaker 1: I have always thought about two at least you know, 447 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:22,040 Speaker 1: nobody really quite knew watching those two players how great 448 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:24,639 Speaker 1: they were going to be in the NBA. Magic Slow 449 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:29,040 Speaker 1: couldn't shoot Bird, you know, you know Slow, you know, 450 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:33,399 Speaker 1: not a great defender. How would his game translate? And 451 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:37,880 Speaker 1: Packer on two or three cuts in that episode, which 452 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:40,840 Speaker 1: is forty minutes long, in two or three cuts, said, 453 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:42,959 Speaker 1: none of us thought that the two of them are 454 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:46,400 Speaker 1: going to be great NBA players, including Al McGuire. So 455 00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:51,600 Speaker 1: I think those two little tidbits are interesting. And remember, too, Danny, 456 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:55,040 Speaker 1: you remember this. I did too, because I was eighteen. 457 00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:58,600 Speaker 1: I was in college as a freshman. Bird played two 458 00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:02,640 Speaker 1: great games that Indiana State did before that championship game. 459 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:08,760 Speaker 1: They beat Moncrieff and Arkansas in the regional final. How's 460 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:11,240 Speaker 1: the year after Mark Arkansas got to the final four, 461 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:15,040 Speaker 1: but Ron Brewer and Marvin delf had graduated, so only 462 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:18,840 Speaker 1: Moncrief was left. They won by a basket, and Moncrief 463 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:21,199 Speaker 1: and berber Gray as you know. And then in the 464 00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:25,840 Speaker 1: semifinals they beat Aguire from DePaul and Aguire was great, 465 00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:29,160 Speaker 1: ray Meyer and that game was by a basket. So 466 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:32,800 Speaker 1: they had played two unbelievable games, and then they played 467 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:35,240 Speaker 1: this terrible game in the final so I thought that 468 00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:38,520 Speaker 1: was interesting. A lot of interesting little tidbits. You know, 469 00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:40,919 Speaker 1: you and I were remember because you and I are 470 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:43,560 Speaker 1: old enough, probably a little younger than me, but we're 471 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:46,120 Speaker 1: about the same age. So and you're you, and you're 472 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:48,679 Speaker 1: a good player. As it was, you remember all these games. 473 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:51,200 Speaker 1: But even I picked up on something. That's why these 474 00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:54,520 Speaker 1: podcasts are good. As you do all these interviews with 475 00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:57,280 Speaker 1: older guys who were so sharp as attack, who give 476 00:25:57,320 --> 00:25:59,480 Speaker 1: you good information. I'll give you one that you'll find fascinating. 477 00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:03,600 Speaker 1: Ready for this, I did Beheim on the Big East 478 00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:05,879 Speaker 1: to talk to him and on his game, and he 479 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:11,040 Speaker 1: lost Indiana in eighty seven. When they lost Indiana, the 480 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:15,359 Speaker 1: chaperone who was in charge of getting Syracuse two and 481 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:20,720 Speaker 1: from New Orleans was crushed that they lost India lost 482 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:24,159 Speaker 1: to Indiana. When they went back there in two thousand 483 00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:28,440 Speaker 1: and three in New Orleans, Beeheim gets on the bus 484 00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:31,880 Speaker 1: with the chaperone and the first thing he says, let's 485 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:35,159 Speaker 1: win this championship. It was the same chaperone from nineteen 486 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:37,520 Speaker 1: eighty six. For an hour. Things like that, then you 487 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:41,080 Speaker 1: pick up that are interesting. You know, if a bird 488 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:45,120 Speaker 1: or magic would be better in today's NBA which one 489 00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:48,440 Speaker 1: you're You're gonna answer that, probably better than I can. 490 00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:51,040 Speaker 1: I think Bird would be great. I think both would 491 00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:53,000 Speaker 1: be great. I mean Magic you have to wonder a 492 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:56,439 Speaker 1: live about his quickness. Is three points shooting? You know 493 00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:59,320 Speaker 1: at the game's different. You know he was a he 494 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:02,119 Speaker 1: was a one a full fair and he wasn't unbelievably fast, 495 00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:05,160 Speaker 1: so it's a it's at its three point shooting. Berb 496 00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:07,639 Speaker 1: is a great three point shooter, so I have no 497 00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:11,400 Speaker 1: I think Bird might be a little better organized today 498 00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:14,959 Speaker 1: than Magic would be because Bird was a great well, 499 00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:17,520 Speaker 1: they both were great passers, but Bert was a better 500 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:20,480 Speaker 1: shooter than Magic and a better three point shooter and 501 00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:24,240 Speaker 1: everything else, so maybe Bird's game translates. But I think 502 00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:26,160 Speaker 1: if you're an all time great, you're an all time great. 503 00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:28,720 Speaker 1: And I think both of them would be great today. 504 00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:31,399 Speaker 1: And I made the point with stephen A last weekend. 505 00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:33,480 Speaker 1: I don't know if you sort or heard about it, 506 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:36,520 Speaker 1: and you might disagree or not. And I'm not arguing 507 00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:39,920 Speaker 1: body of work. But if you asked me, in the 508 00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:44,400 Speaker 1: peak of their career, in a seven game series against 509 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:47,960 Speaker 1: an equal team, who'd rather have berta Lebron, I might 510 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:52,560 Speaker 1: take Bird that's how good he was. I think Larry, 511 00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:56,159 Speaker 1: if he had stayed healthy, we always love to have 512 00:27:56,200 --> 00:28:00,320 Speaker 1: that caveat. But it wasn't till Lebron was around thirty 513 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:03,320 Speaker 1: when I said he's a better basketball player than Larry, 514 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:07,080 Speaker 1: because there was a season where Larry averaged pretty close 515 00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:09,040 Speaker 1: to a triple double. And I think it was when 516 00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:12,399 Speaker 1: he was twenty nine or so. And you know, it 517 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:17,080 Speaker 1: was thirty nine and eight for Larry, and Larry wasn't 518 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:20,639 Speaker 1: about numbers. Everybody's about numbers now. Uh, you know, if 519 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:22,840 Speaker 1: you're thirty nine and eight, you're gonna go, I'm gonna 520 00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:25,840 Speaker 1: average a triple double. You know, Bird that that. You 521 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:30,960 Speaker 1: know he didn't calculate games that way. But um, if 522 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:34,440 Speaker 1: you said it's one game, I think, Chris, then then 523 00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:38,840 Speaker 1: it's an interesting argument. But I said, shoot, I said series, 524 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,880 Speaker 1: you know on a seventh Okay, so one game? Would 525 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:44,400 Speaker 1: that be any different? Would you would you take Bird 526 00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:49,200 Speaker 1: over Lebron one game? Must? I think he's a better shoot. 527 00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:51,400 Speaker 1: He's a better shooter than Lebron is, and he's a 528 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:54,600 Speaker 1: better outside and he's a better free throw shooter. Um, 529 00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:57,280 Speaker 1: and here's the thing that I argued, and you would 530 00:28:57,320 --> 00:28:59,280 Speaker 1: remember it well, and I think there's something to it. 531 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:02,320 Speaker 1: I've seen him the brom he was bad against Dallas 532 00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:06,480 Speaker 1: the year they lost. Yeah, he played terribly in that series. 533 00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:09,520 Speaker 1: You've you've been around forever. You ever see Bird in 534 00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:11,560 Speaker 1: a big when he was healthy? You ever see Bird 535 00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:14,760 Speaker 1: in a big series? Lay An Egg I saw him. 536 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:19,560 Speaker 1: I saw him have a bad shooting performance. He had 537 00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:22,000 Speaker 1: the bad game against the Lakers the year that they 538 00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:25,520 Speaker 1: Magic's babyhood. Yeah, because I was at that game, and 539 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:29,160 Speaker 1: you know Bird and Bird had a chance at the end. Yeah, 540 00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:30,880 Speaker 1: I had a wide open three. Yeah, you had a 541 00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:35,240 Speaker 1: wide open three. James, James, I was there. Wow, I 542 00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:37,760 Speaker 1: didn't know that you were at that game, Game five 543 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:40,240 Speaker 1: in the eighty s. When were you sitting that night? 544 00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:44,680 Speaker 1: I was way up, way up. That was before sport. 545 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:46,640 Speaker 1: Were you doing Sports Center at the time. I was 546 00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:50,560 Speaker 1: at CNN. Wow, you at that game. That's one of 547 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:53,320 Speaker 1: the all time great games in the Magic babyhood? Yes, 548 00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:56,440 Speaker 1: see you. Yeah. But I mean I was fortunate to 549 00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:59,800 Speaker 1: have been around the NBA in the early The only 550 00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:04,800 Speaker 1: I didn't see in person was Bill Russell, Saul Wilt Marovich. 551 00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:08,280 Speaker 1: You know, all of those great teams came into Cincinnati, 552 00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:11,120 Speaker 1: the Cincinnati Royals, so I got a chance to see 553 00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:14,760 Speaker 1: great players. So when people say, well, let's argue this, 554 00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:18,240 Speaker 1: you know I can, I at least have a reference point. 555 00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:21,920 Speaker 1: You sure Oscar? You're old enough to have seen Oscar 556 00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:25,120 Speaker 1: as a Royal. Yeah, before he went to Milwaukee. Yes, 557 00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:29,680 Speaker 1: we didn't realize how great he was because the Royals 558 00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:32,760 Speaker 1: weren't any good. But he did this every night where 559 00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:35,800 Speaker 1: he'd give you twenty five twenty six a game, great 560 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:39,320 Speaker 1: free throw shooter, rebounder. But we also knew of him 561 00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:42,760 Speaker 1: at the University of Cincinnati. So right, so a lot 562 00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:44,760 Speaker 1: of times we see somebody for the first time, we go, 563 00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:47,200 Speaker 1: oh my god, did you see that guy? Well, we 564 00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:51,920 Speaker 1: had seen Oscar for you know, six seven years before 565 00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:54,160 Speaker 1: he emerged on the scene in Milwaukee when he won 566 00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:58,080 Speaker 1: an NBA championship. But I'm missing the missing ingredient. That's 567 00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:00,160 Speaker 1: how you grew up in Cincinnati. So you saw all 568 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:03,320 Speaker 1: those loyal teams. Were you at the are you old enough? 569 00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:06,080 Speaker 1: Were you at the game? And when Couzy put himself 570 00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:09,200 Speaker 1: blew that five point lead against the Knicks, No, I 571 00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:13,280 Speaker 1: was not, but uh, that was that was tough, said, 572 00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:15,520 Speaker 1: you know that that made the Knicks break the record 573 00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:19,520 Speaker 1: for consecutive wins. That game, was it eighteen eighteen? I 574 00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:21,680 Speaker 1: think in a row, yeah, which the Lakers, which the 575 00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:25,200 Speaker 1: Lakers obliterated, you know, two or three years later. But 576 00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:27,880 Speaker 1: you know, tell him Danny Couzy put himself in a 577 00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:30,000 Speaker 1: game with a five point lead. Was a thirty seconds 578 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:33,040 Speaker 1: left or something crazy like that. They lost something like that. 579 00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:35,760 Speaker 1: It was sad when you saw it, because that's where 580 00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:37,800 Speaker 1: somebody doesn't realize they shouldn't be in the game. And 581 00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:40,560 Speaker 1: Couzy was a player coach and he put himself in 582 00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:43,200 Speaker 1: the game and I think had a couple of turnovers there. 583 00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:47,680 Speaker 1: They ended up losing before six years after he retired, 584 00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:50,560 Speaker 1: two six years after. Uh, if you were going to 585 00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:57,120 Speaker 1: arbitrate baseball and its lockout, how would you what's the 586 00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:01,280 Speaker 1: solution here, Chris, I think they gonna get something done. 587 00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:04,440 Speaker 1: You can't sit there and tell me this international draft 588 00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:07,960 Speaker 1: thing tie in that it's not gonna I think that, 589 00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:13,200 Speaker 1: whether it's today tomorrow, I do think they're gonna get something. 590 00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:15,840 Speaker 1: Gun the owners, diday Hella, listen, I know everybody wants 591 00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:17,920 Speaker 1: to kill the owners, so I'll go the other way. 592 00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:21,120 Speaker 1: I mean, think about what the owners had given the players. Here, Danny, 593 00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:24,600 Speaker 1: you you've been following us forever. They went minimum salary 594 00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:27,200 Speaker 1: went up to seven hundred thousand from five to seventy, 595 00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:30,520 Speaker 1: and then the deal goes to seven seventy. They took 596 00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:34,880 Speaker 1: about the free agent compensation situation, they went to the 597 00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:37,520 Speaker 1: luxury tax went from two to eight to two hundred 598 00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:40,480 Speaker 1: and thirty million, you know, from the last agreement last 599 00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:45,400 Speaker 1: year into this year or two thirty the minimum they 600 00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:48,680 Speaker 1: got away the market manipulation that Chris Bryant nonsense that 601 00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:50,600 Speaker 1: we saw at the Cubs when he got sent down 602 00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:53,000 Speaker 1: to the Model leagues, and they put service time. They 603 00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:56,440 Speaker 1: only took twelve postseason teams when they wanted fourteen. And 604 00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:59,320 Speaker 1: here's the big one. They had never given a nickel 605 00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:02,920 Speaker 1: into this. They put forty million dollars, you know, the 606 00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:07,120 Speaker 1: salary arbitration thing from one and two year players, So 607 00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:09,880 Speaker 1: a goo like carbon Burns who won a SIG young 608 00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:11,520 Speaker 1: would not be able to for a lot of money. 609 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:15,240 Speaker 1: Now in subsequent years if they signed off this, they'd 610 00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:17,560 Speaker 1: have forty million dollars to figure out how to use. 611 00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:20,600 Speaker 1: If you're part of the players Association, so to me, 612 00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:23,320 Speaker 1: if I'm a player and said, hold on out. We 613 00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:27,160 Speaker 1: got minimum salary, we got CBT, we got only the 614 00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:31,520 Speaker 1: amount of playoff teams we wanted. We got no jpick compensation, 615 00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:35,400 Speaker 1: we got salaries. I'm an idiot. Let's go. I'm signing 616 00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:38,480 Speaker 1: the contract. But you know they came up with this 617 00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:42,320 Speaker 1: international jet thing. I think this will get settled here shortly. 618 00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:44,920 Speaker 1: And I mentioned this justin and you probably agree. Can 619 00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:49,600 Speaker 1: you imagine if on April fifteenth, on the seventy fifth 620 00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:53,680 Speaker 1: anniversary of Jackie Robinson, they're not playing in Major league 621 00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:58,080 Speaker 1: ballparks in this day and age. Think about that. Then, 622 00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:01,840 Speaker 1: I know, I know, I knew they have to play. 623 00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:03,440 Speaker 1: They got to figure this. And that's the most the 624 00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:06,320 Speaker 1: biggest embarrassment in the world. A week before the NFL 625 00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:09,240 Speaker 1: jaffing here and there on a like out slash stike, 626 00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:12,839 Speaker 1: when Jackie Robinson seventy five years ago played first base 627 00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:16,200 Speaker 1: for the Dodgers against the Boston Bridge and they're not 628 00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:20,040 Speaker 1: playing baseball that you're not gonna win, You're dead, You're 629 00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:22,200 Speaker 1: finished in this day and age. So I think they're 630 00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:24,200 Speaker 1: gonna get something done. Oh, it's great to talk to you. 631 00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:26,880 Speaker 1: Congrats on the success. The first take. Thank you, buddy, 632 00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:30,440 Speaker 1: that's mad Dog Russo you can see him on First 633 00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:34,319 Speaker 1: Take every Wednesday with Stephen A. Smith. And also he 634 00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:37,480 Speaker 1: has a new series of episodes for his podcast, Digging 635 00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:41,560 Speaker 1: Up the Past available Sirius xm app when we come 636 00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:45,799 Speaker 1: back the song that you hear on the radio and 637 00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:48,239 Speaker 1: you turn it off as soon as you hear it 638 00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:51,800 Speaker 1: back after this, Thanks for listening to The Dan Patrick 639 00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:54,680 Speaker 1: Show podcast. Be sure to catch us live every weekday 640 00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:57,520 Speaker 1: morning nine until noon eastern six to nine Pacific on 641 00:34:57,560 --> 00:34:59,880 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio and you can find us on the 642 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:03,879 Speaker 1: my Heart Radio app at FSR or stream us live 643 00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:10,000 Speaker 1: on the Peacock app. Check if you want exclusive insight 644 00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:12,680 Speaker 1: from the biggest names in the sports game. What's good? 645 00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:15,480 Speaker 1: This is national champion and former pro bowler Chris Johnson 646 00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:17,440 Speaker 1: and let me tell you a little bit about my 647 00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:19,919 Speaker 1: new series kJ Live. kJ Live is the only show 648 00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:22,800 Speaker 1: featuring me going one on one with the brightest basketball 649 00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:25,520 Speaker 1: minds on the planet to get the real And when 650 00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:29,160 Speaker 1: I say real, I mean that real. I got legendary 651 00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:32,960 Speaker 1: Hall of famers, elite coaches, and the top basketball insiders 652 00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:36,960 Speaker 1: bringing you a unique perspective on all things hoops culture 653 00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:40,879 Speaker 1: that you will not find anywhere tells to make your 654 00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:43,400 Speaker 1: next move your best move and tap in with me 655 00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:49,160 Speaker 1: from kJ Live wherever you get your podcast from. I 656 00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:52,120 Speaker 1: saw this tweet from Jim Callowshaw or good buddy It's 657 00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:54,200 Speaker 1: it says it's easy to make fun of Carson Wentz, 658 00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:56,960 Speaker 1: and I haven't exactly shied away from it. But put 659 00:35:57,000 --> 00:36:00,359 Speaker 1: him in the Washington offense, give the defense chair young 660 00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:03,160 Speaker 1: and better health, and it's a three way race in 661 00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:10,719 Speaker 1: the NFC East. Cowboys backsliding, Eagles drafting, big commanders are coming, Okay, 662 00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:15,920 Speaker 1: I mean there's seven and ten with Taylor Heineken. All right, 663 00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:20,279 Speaker 1: do I think Carson Wentz? Would I have taken the 664 00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:22,399 Speaker 1: chance on it? I would have, but I don't know. 665 00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:24,680 Speaker 1: I think taken his salary off the hands of the 666 00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:27,040 Speaker 1: colds would have been enough. I don't want to give 667 00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:31,840 Speaker 1: up a couple of draft picks as well. But maybe 668 00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:34,840 Speaker 1: maybe he gets it, but at this age he should be. 669 00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:36,880 Speaker 1: I thought somebody was just going to wait for him 670 00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:40,839 Speaker 1: to get cut, and then, I mean, I don't know 671 00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:45,799 Speaker 1: if I don't know who Washington was negotiating against. And 672 00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:48,480 Speaker 1: I know there are reports that other teams wanted Carson Wentz, 673 00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:51,839 Speaker 1: But if they make the playoffs. Then it's a win, 674 00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:55,120 Speaker 1: all right. The last couple of days we've talked about 675 00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:57,600 Speaker 1: there was a survey done in England and it was 676 00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:00,239 Speaker 1: for the saddest song, and I think it was already ms. 677 00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:03,000 Speaker 1: Everybody hurts. And then we thought, all right, we'll give 678 00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:05,120 Speaker 1: you our sad song. And then we thought, all right, 679 00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:06,880 Speaker 1: how about our happy song? So we gave you our 680 00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:10,040 Speaker 1: happy song. And then Paulie goes, well, you know we 681 00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:13,439 Speaker 1: tend to skew negative, So how about the most irritating 682 00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:17,799 Speaker 1: song that you hear on the radio that makes you 683 00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:22,560 Speaker 1: turn off the radio or change the channel. Todd, let 684 00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:25,560 Speaker 1: me start with you the most irritating song in your 685 00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:31,440 Speaker 1: world on your ride home talking heads Once in a lifetime. 686 00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:38,040 Speaker 1: I find it hugely irritating. You may find yourself a 687 00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:44,360 Speaker 1: shot gun shot, and you may find yourself, and you 688 00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:54,040 Speaker 1: may find yourself behind utomobile? Can you may find yourself? 689 00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:59,000 Speaker 1: Chorus on here this guy's a genius, so annoying and weird. 690 00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:09,640 Speaker 1: Here he goes, Oh my god, guess who I'm going 691 00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:14,960 Speaker 1: to go see on Saturday on Broadway? David burns Utopia? 692 00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:20,200 Speaker 1: Really yes, yes, and I can't wait. I think he's 693 00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:22,520 Speaker 1: a genius. All right, seton. Did I ever tell you 694 00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:24,239 Speaker 1: at the time I almost ran David burn over with 695 00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:28,000 Speaker 1: my car when we were doing the show in New 696 00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:29,440 Speaker 1: York City and I used to drive in. I was 697 00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:32,760 Speaker 1: driving home and we used to when you left our studio, 698 00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:35,120 Speaker 1: you made like a left and I went a block 699 00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:38,239 Speaker 1: or two and the West Side Highway was right there, 700 00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:42,040 Speaker 1: and I was the light was green, and I was 701 00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:45,480 Speaker 1: going to make a right on my green light, and 702 00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:48,239 Speaker 1: there was a man walking his bike. He had a 703 00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:50,600 Speaker 1: hat on and he was like a tamo kind of hat, 704 00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:53,719 Speaker 1: and he was walking his bike. And I think that 705 00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:56,600 Speaker 1: I either was driving too fast and stopped too close 706 00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:59,120 Speaker 1: to him or something. But I definitely gave him a scare. 707 00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:00,879 Speaker 1: And he looked up at me, like, what the hell 708 00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:03,120 Speaker 1: is wrong with you? And I was like, that's deepen bird. 709 00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:05,399 Speaker 1: Oh my god. Can you imagine if I just ran 710 00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:08,719 Speaker 1: him over? Then I wouldn't be watching you know Utopia 711 00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:11,480 Speaker 1: on Broadway this week? True story? All right? Uh? The 712 00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:14,840 Speaker 1: irritating song for you seat news, Well, I say yesterday 713 00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:18,520 Speaker 1: my one seed is of my least favorite song has 714 00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:20,360 Speaker 1: come on Eileen, Right. I just can't stand that. But 715 00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:22,840 Speaker 1: there's another one. I feel badly about this because the 716 00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:25,000 Speaker 1: guys in this band are all very nice and they're 717 00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:28,040 Speaker 1: super talented. Um and I think this just has to 718 00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:31,000 Speaker 1: do more with some of the radio stations that I've 719 00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:34,800 Speaker 1: worked at. But I cannot listen to this song. It's 720 00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:43,040 Speaker 1: been I'm hungry five days after me, come back and 721 00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:51,520 Speaker 1: see me. It's all about value forgiven. I cannot say 722 00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:54,920 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, little wink, because I make you stop think 723 00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:57,400 Speaker 1: you think you're looking at acquaman a summon fish to 724 00:39:57,520 --> 00:39:59,080 Speaker 1: the dish. Although I like the shallow sweet, I like 725 00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:04,880 Speaker 1: to sushi couzins. I met these guys. They they opened 726 00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:07,000 Speaker 1: up for Hoodi and the Blowfish when Hoodie came back 727 00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:10,279 Speaker 1: on their reunion tour. He the lead singer, could not 728 00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:11,719 Speaker 1: have been a nice thing. They could not. I've met 729 00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:13,800 Speaker 1: them several times. They could not be nicer people, and 730 00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:17,360 Speaker 1: they're extremely talented. I wouldn't turn off that song. I've so. 731 00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:20,440 Speaker 1: I used to work at like Top forty radio stations 732 00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:23,440 Speaker 1: or Hot AC radio stations, and I saw them in 733 00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:26,560 Speaker 1: concert at least twice a year, and at that time, 734 00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:30,600 Speaker 1: remind you of some bad times in your life. No, no, no, no, 735 00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:33,759 Speaker 1: I don't even think about those. Uh. That's all long, 736 00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:37,520 Speaker 1: gun Um, but man, it would be like every quarter 737 00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:40,120 Speaker 1: hour you had at least one Bare Naked Ladies song 738 00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:42,719 Speaker 1: on because some about the timing or whatever, and it 739 00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:45,960 Speaker 1: was It's been one. I've heard that song fifteen thousand 740 00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:49,960 Speaker 1: times in my life, Marvin. The most irritating song in 741 00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:52,879 Speaker 1: your life is Man. People loved this song and I 742 00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:55,000 Speaker 1: hate it. It was on my do not playlist at 743 00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:56,960 Speaker 1: my wedding. I would have killed my DJ if you 744 00:40:57,040 --> 00:41:21,759 Speaker 1: have played this song. Okay, Okay, Fritzie's actually singing the song. 745 00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:24,960 Speaker 1: I like Seatons and I like Marvis. I like those songs. Okay, 746 00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:29,600 Speaker 1: that's a bold take on that one. Yeah, Paulie, this 747 00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:32,279 Speaker 1: is like picking Michael Jordan as your favorite basketball player 748 00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:34,040 Speaker 1: of all times. This is one of the most obvious ones. 749 00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:36,640 Speaker 1: But I've hated the song since the day it came out. 750 00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:38,719 Speaker 1: It was the number one song in the country for 751 00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:41,239 Speaker 1: like a month. It was by a formerly great band, 752 00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:47,279 Speaker 1: Jefferson Airplane. It's Jefferson Starship, We Built a City. It's 753 00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:58,160 Speaker 1: a terrible song. Yeah, uh, you know, Jefferson Airplane, Jefferson 754 00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:01,040 Speaker 1: Starship Red Octopus is a great album. But this is 755 00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:03,440 Speaker 1: not a good song. This is Michael Jordan on the Wizards. 756 00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:07,920 Speaker 1: This is not even that. Nothing actually sums up nineteen 757 00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:11,640 Speaker 1: eighty five better than this song. Um, it's Michael Jordan 758 00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:15,799 Speaker 1: playing for the Birmingham Barons. All right, Marv, this is 759 00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:26,160 Speaker 1: my song that I will change the channel immediately. Yeah. 760 00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:35,320 Speaker 1: You just don't appreciate great songs. Yeah, give it. Yeah, 761 00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:38,120 Speaker 1: And it's a long introduction. They don't even get to 762 00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:41,920 Speaker 1: the vocals forever one of the greatest choruses of all time. 763 00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:47,759 Speaker 1: The union's been on strike. He's down on his law. Yeah, 764 00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:53,200 Speaker 1: I know. It's trying to be like Springsteen. And then 765 00:42:53,239 --> 00:43:00,760 Speaker 1: Todd always does the sound effects. Where where two hours 766 00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:04,520 Speaker 1: in the books? One more to go Dan Patrick's show. 767 00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:08,640 Speaker 1: One more item is we close out hour two. Tunnel 768 00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:12,560 Speaker 1: to Towers Foundation, Thank you for your contributions. Tunnel to 769 00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:16,839 Speaker 1: Towers t twot dot org. The letter T, the number two, 770 00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:19,960 Speaker 1: the letter T dot org. What it is is the 771 00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:24,000 Speaker 1: Tunnel to Towers Foundation, the Do Good Village in Landa Lakes, Florida, 772 00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:26,279 Speaker 1: first of its kind, a community of one hundred and 773 00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:30,640 Speaker 1: ten homes for the Foundations Program recipients, So Together, Families 774 00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:33,719 Speaker 1: Healed Together. 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