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Speaker 1: The car Doctor, why did you replace the engine? What

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Speaker 2: According to the mechanic, it just blew blew out. Welcome

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Speaker 2: to the radio home of ron Ananian, the Car Doctor.

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Speaker 2: Since nineteen ninety one. This is where car owners the

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Speaker 2: If your mechanics giving you a busy signal, pick up

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Speaker 1: So smoke is the topic of the hour today, listeners,

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Speaker 1: Chuck Kincaid of Red Line Detection, and we're gonna talk

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Speaker 3: Hey, Ron, thanks for having me appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: It's red line Detection or redline diagnostics. I always get

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Speaker 3: Well, we make diagnostic product, but it's red line detection, right,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, so you'll correct me about seven times today

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Speaker 1: And I'm sure this is all going to become essential

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Speaker 3: Well, it is a requirement, and that in sum of

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Speaker 1: you allow that he didn't know what I was talking about.

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Speaker 1: So hey, listen, Chuck. You know what you guys are

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Speaker 1: doing a great job. You keep up the fight. You

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Speaker 5: You do.

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Speaker 1: Real quick, the listeners, it's redline Deetection dot com.

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Speaker 3: Correct, Yeah, redline Detection dot com. And you can find

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Speaker 1: Perfect, Chuck, you'd be well. You have a good rest

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Speaker 5: Ron's in the zone the AutoZone studio and tell you

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Speaker 5: Here's Ron. Welcome back to listeners.

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Speaker 1: I want to talk to you about diagnostics and a

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Speaker 1: Seat belt pretensioner PRETENSIONAR is part of the air bag system.

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Speaker 1: You know, there's a difference between fault codes, and sometimes

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Speaker 1: I said, you know, it's between here and here. I

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Speaker 1: unplugged connector three thirty nine, cleared the code, turned the

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Speaker 1: key back off, unplugged it codes cleared, unplugged the connector,

436
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Speaker 1: turned the key on. It set the same fault that

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Speaker 1: connector was having no bearing on the circuit. You know,

438
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Speaker 1: turned the key off, cleared the code or I'm sorry,

439
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Speaker 1: turned the key off. Plug the connector back in, turned

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Speaker 1: the key on, cleared the code, turned it back off,

441
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Speaker 1: code's gone, turned it back on. Set the same fault

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Speaker 1: coat that connector was having no bearing. So I set

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Speaker 1: myself up. I looked at the wiring and I couldn't

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Speaker 1: see it right away, So I set myself up with

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Speaker 1: a jumper lead. I jumpered across the yellow red and

446
00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:47,600
Speaker 1: the purple white that were in connector three thirty nine

447
00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:51,359
Speaker 1: and fixed it. It wouldn't set the fault code. So

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Speaker 1: I knew somewhere between this section of wire and this

449
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Speaker 1: section of wire, I had a fault. Pulled the seat

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Speaker 1: out of the car, turned it upside down, set down

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Speaker 1: with a magnifying glass, and started looking at the at

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Speaker 1: the wire as it ran, and I found the break

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Speaker 1: where there was just one strand holding it, and I

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Speaker 1: was able to obtain the correct connector, solder it in

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Speaker 1: and repair it. And my point is that not all

456
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Speaker 1: diagnosis is a parts replacement. It's you know, it's a

457
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Speaker 1: thinking person's game. You got to sit there and you know, understand,

458
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Speaker 1: understand the fault, understand the code. What are you chasing?

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Speaker 1: You know, this was a circuit fault. This was a

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Speaker 1: connectivity issue. This was a problem with how the circuit

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Speaker 1: was operating. And I could prove it by you know,

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Speaker 1: doing the step of clear the code, turn the key on.

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Speaker 1: The fault comes back right away, you know, without even

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Speaker 1: running the vehicle. So just just a tip, just be

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Speaker 1: aware that you know, and there's an awful lot of well,

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Speaker 1: there's more fault codes coming, I should say it like that,

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Speaker 1: there are more fault codes coming than ever before that

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Speaker 1: I think you've ever seen, and you know some of them.

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Speaker 1: We had an interesting one with a Toyota this week,

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Speaker 1: a nineteen Highlander P eleven EA, which talked about air

471
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Speaker 1: fuel distribution between cylinders and imbalance of air fuel mixture.

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Speaker 1: And we're still waiting to see where that one goes.

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00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:19,600
Speaker 1: It's it's, it's it went to the dealer because it

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Speaker 1: was under warranty, and we're waiting to see what the

475
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Speaker 1: answer becomes there. We may end up having to take

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Speaker 1: a crack at it to fix it because they may

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Speaker 1: not be able to or want to. That's a whole

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Speaker 1: nother conversation. But diagnostic codes are interesting. They don't always

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Speaker 1: mean a part replacement. They you know, in a lot

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Speaker 1: of cases. You know, in a lot of cases, it's wiring,

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Speaker 1: its connections, it's the abuse of environment. In this case,

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Speaker 1: it was the clean xbox under the seat that costs

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Speaker 1: this person quite a few dollars between diagnostic time and

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Speaker 1: repair of time. So keeping the car clean does pay

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Speaker 1: off in the long run. So just something to be

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Speaker 1: aware of. All right, Lee, pull over and take a pause.

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Speaker 1: I'm running any in the car. Doctor. I'll be back

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Speaker 1: right after this. Don't go, but I'll know you want

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Speaker 1: better and got done. I welcome back to listeners. Just

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Speaker 1: back up a second. We're talking about diagnosing that twenty

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Speaker 1: seventeen explore. When I say I used a jumper. Going

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Speaker 1: back here a minute, when I say I used the

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Speaker 1: jumper around Connector three thirty nine, I did it in

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Speaker 1: an area that I had very high confidence that I

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Speaker 1: was going to replacing that section of harness. And what

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00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:36,680
Speaker 1: I use is either I have two ways of piercing

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Speaker 1: or probing wire so that you understand, so you're not

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Speaker 1: just jabbing holes in a wiring harness. I will either

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00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:47,920
Speaker 1: use an industry approved probe which is from various places

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Speaker 1: that provide a very small pin into you know, through

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00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:58,920
Speaker 1: a guided piece of plastic and actual wire tap it's

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Speaker 1: designed to do that to tap into the meter, or

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Speaker 1: in some cases we will use go down to your

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Speaker 1: local sewing store and get what we used to call teapins.

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Speaker 1: It's what they use to hem a skirt or a

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Speaker 1: pant length, you know, a length of pants. It's just

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Speaker 1: a T shaped pin. They provide a very fine point

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Speaker 1: and a great place to grab with your you know,

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Speaker 1: meters clips. So you know, but we are very careful

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Speaker 1: when it comes to wiring harness and if you do

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Speaker 1: punctural harness and you're not repairing that section of it,

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Speaker 1: you should seal it. We still use to this day

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Speaker 1: clear nail polish. Clear nail polish works. Well, there's a

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Speaker 1: couple of other things we can do that we will use.

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Speaker 1: But you want to make sure that you don't leave

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Speaker 1: a wiring harness open so the corrosion doesn't get in

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00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:45,320
Speaker 1: there and you know, create a problem two years from

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Speaker 1: now when you least expect it. So just just be aware.

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Speaker 1: Got a let it take from doctor McCann Richard McCann

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00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:53,720
Speaker 1: over in England. Hello, Ron, Good to hear that you

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Speaker 1: guys are still at the gym and keeping fit in well.

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Speaker 1: Particularly interesting comments from this past weekend about spares spare parts.

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00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:03,000
Speaker 1: I imagine he's talking about we were talking about it.

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Speaker 1: I was amazed recently how hard it was to find

525
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Speaker 1: a new break booster from my friend's nineteen nineties four.

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Speaker 1: Finally got one in a breaker's yard. I guess that's

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00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:12,400
Speaker 1: a scrapyard there, which involved an unpleasant half hour with

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Speaker 1: my head in the foot well full of broken glass,

529
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Speaker 1: with petals kicking me in the face while I was

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00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:19,120
Speaker 1: removing the securing nuts. As you often say, trying to

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Speaker 1: get computer parts for a modern car in ten years time,

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00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:23,880
Speaker 1: it'll be interesting to see how that works for us.

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Speaker 1: On the other hand, following up on a great point

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Speaker 1: you made parts for seventies and eighties cars can be

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00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:31,680
Speaker 1: great because they are it's easier to get parts for

536
00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:35,320
Speaker 1: older mechanical vehicles. You know, there's no electronics involved. He

537
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:37,160
Speaker 1: goes on to say, I can buy a whole MGB,

538
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:40,440
Speaker 1: or I can build a whole MGB from new parts

539
00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:43,280
Speaker 1: if I want to. I recently bought a new water pump, thermostat,

540
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:45,520
Speaker 1: housing hoses guest gets in Beltoal for one hundred bucks

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Speaker 1: the other day including next day delivery charge, and an

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00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:52,080
Speaker 1: MG TAILM for six bucks. That's right, six dollars. One

543
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:55,400
Speaker 1: of my son's moderns VW tail lamps is more like

544
00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:58,880
Speaker 1: two hundred dollars. You know, it's interesting. And when I

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Speaker 1: replied to him, I'll tell you what I said. I

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00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:05,560
Speaker 1: was talking about. It's funny how older cars which are

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Speaker 1: less in supply, obviously, it seems that the parts for

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Speaker 1: them are getting cheaper, and the parts for the cars

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Speaker 1: that there are more of are getting more expensive. And

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Speaker 1: you would think if they're producing more like new parts,

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00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:23,360
Speaker 1: they're producing parts for new you would think supply and

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00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:26,080
Speaker 1: demand it would be able to drive down the price,

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Speaker 1: which makes the whole argument about electric vehicle batteries getting

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00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:32,680
Speaker 1: cheaper as they become more proficient kind of makes you

555
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:35,920
Speaker 1: scratch your head, like, well that really happened. Incidentally, any listeners,

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00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:38,080
Speaker 1: I had to get that in there. Incidentally, any listeners

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00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:39,960
Speaker 1: with old European cars might find it useful to know

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00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:41,920
Speaker 1: that the same parts were used on a massive variety

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Speaker 1: of cars. So if you can't find a part for

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00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:45,760
Speaker 1: say a Triumph, get a part number and you'll probably

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Speaker 1: find that it is also used on anything from a

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Speaker 1: Jaguar to a land Rover, Arrest and Martin in one

563
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Speaker 1: case from last month, also a Maserati, a Jensen, and Lamborghini.

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Speaker 1: The only difference will be the price. I just put

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Speaker 1: a door mirror for a British Exotic. I was quoted

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Speaker 1: six hundred. The part and number corresponded to a seventy Mercedes,

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Speaker 1: which I bought for ninety dollars. Keep well and happy

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00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:05,880
Speaker 1: Christmas and peaceful twenty twenty four to you and the

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Speaker 1: car after family. Richard, you know it will be interesting

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00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:16,320
Speaker 1: finding parts four cars going forward, and will that be

571
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 1: the turning stone? We had a two thousand and two

572
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:22,520
Speaker 1: Cadillac Sts in the shop this past week. It came

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Speaker 1: in for a diagnosis of a jingling noise, and I

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00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:27,720
Speaker 1: went over the car and it was really obvious. It

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00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:29,920
Speaker 1: was a really hardcore jingling noise. You'd hear it going

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Speaker 1: down the road. It just sounded terrible like it was

577
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:36,360
Speaker 1: falling apart. And one of the cradle bolts. There are

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00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:39,160
Speaker 1: four cradle bolts in the rear of the engine, two

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00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:41,520
Speaker 1: body cradle that holds the engine and the transit on

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00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:44,640
Speaker 1: the front subcradle there, you know too, on this Cadillac

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00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:49,480
Speaker 1: Siville sts and the one of the rear cradle bolts

582
00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:54,920
Speaker 1: had actually come loose. It was about good three turns out,

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00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:57,320
Speaker 1: you know, and you didn't realize it until you looked

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00:31:57,360 --> 00:31:59,080
Speaker 1: up and you saw that the bolt had was sticking

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00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:01,520
Speaker 1: out further than the other one, and you you tap

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00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:03,840
Speaker 1: the retainer's GM calls it, which is the big washer

587
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:07,320
Speaker 1: that goes underneath the mount, and it jingled. So I,

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00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:09,760
Speaker 1: you know, we tightened it up, and you know, that

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00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:11,920
Speaker 1: solved that problem. When I looked at the other side,

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00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:14,600
Speaker 1: the bolt that would have been on the other side,

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00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:17,360
Speaker 1: on the driver's side was completely gone. It wasn't even

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00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:21,120
Speaker 1: in the car. Forty thousand mile car forty one thousand

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00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:23,400
Speaker 1: mile car, a nice car. But I went to buy

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00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:26,200
Speaker 1: a replacement bolt and a replacement retainer. The bolt is

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00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 1: still available. It's about twenty bucks. The retainer is thirty two.

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00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:33,640
Speaker 1: But I had to buy a package of five, and

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00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:37,640
Speaker 1: manufacturers do that sometimes. So I sent the customer off

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00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:40,040
Speaker 1: on a you know, I don't know wild goose chase.

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00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:41,520
Speaker 1: Let's see what he comes up with. I think I

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00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:44,760
Speaker 1: think he's found it, but you know it's You're gonna

601
00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:45,960
Speaker 1: have to be a little creative if you want to

602
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:47,960
Speaker 1: keep the older cars on the road. It's interesting. So

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Speaker 1: eight five five five six zeros nine nine zero zeros

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Speaker 1: the phone number. Only did again eight five five five

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Speaker 1: six zero nine nine zero zeros the phone number. If

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00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:56,960
Speaker 1: you want to talk to his call, leave a message.

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00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:58,680
Speaker 1: We'll get back to you for next week's show. I'm

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00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:00,880
Speaker 1: running any in the car doctor. I'll be back right

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00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:20,360
Speaker 1: after this to finish things up. Don't go away, and

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00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:22,960
Speaker 1: we are back. Hey, did I just want to cover

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Speaker 1: this real quick? Did anybody see in the news this

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00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:32,560
Speaker 1: week that the Governor of Connecticut has withdrawn his legislative

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Speaker 1: proposal to mandate all electric vehicles in the state of

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Speaker 1: Connecticut by twenty thirty five. Yep, he has decided to

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Speaker 1: separate Connecticut at this time from following California's lead. They

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Speaker 1: mentioned that Connecticut is on track or was on track,

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Speaker 1: to mirror the state of California's emission requirements for vehicles

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Speaker 1: and the electric vehicle program and several of the other things,

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Speaker 1: and he's pulled back from it because he keeps hearing

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Speaker 1: from legislators on both sides of the House in Connecticut

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Speaker 1: Democrat Republican. I like that is going to be too

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Speaker 1: much of a hardship for middle class and working class families,

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Speaker 1: as the article pointed out, So that is on hold.

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00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 1: It's not going to happen the way the way everybody's

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00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:18,480
Speaker 1: been saying. And I think you're going to see other

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00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:20,560
Speaker 1: states crumble too. You're going to see the domino start

627
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:23,480
Speaker 1: to fall. And you know, all the things we've been

628
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:27,880
Speaker 1: talking about and saying here, you know, with regard to infrastructure,

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Speaker 1: and you know the way they're going to charge and

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00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:35,320
Speaker 1: the cost and the availability and the practicality and everything

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00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:38,440
Speaker 1: we've been talking about. So just you know, just be aware.

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00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:41,360
Speaker 1: I was a little disappointed it was on a few

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Speaker 1: of the news websites. I think midweek Tuesday, Monday Tuesday

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Speaker 1: this past week, and they were gone within a twenty

635
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:51,360
Speaker 1: four hour news cycle. So I thought it was pretty

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00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:52,560
Speaker 1: big news. But evidently the.

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Speaker 4: News the news media did now because they got little.

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00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:57,759
Speaker 4: The story seemed to go away with quickly better kind,

639
00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:01,080
Speaker 4: you know. Thank god Connecticut coming to their senses. Let's

640
00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:02,680
Speaker 4: see if maybe New Jersey or some of the other

641
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:04,160
Speaker 4: things can follow us through as well.

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Speaker 1: I'm not an ady in the car doctor. Thanks for

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Speaker 1: stopping buying, and it was a great team. I'm talking

644
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Speaker 1: to all of you today. Remember good mechanics aren't expensive,

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Speaker 1: They're priceless. See