1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:04,360 Speaker 1: This is intergalactic John, this is Alien sarm on the 2 00:00:04,360 --> 00:00:09,280 Speaker 1: International Okay Storytime podcast station, and we have some human 3 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 1: stories coming up, not alien, but before we make a landing, 4 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 1: stick around for this two minute not alien ad break 5 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:17,520 Speaker 1: before we get to these interstellar stories. 6 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:22,119 Speaker 2: I kept quiet about my wife's affair, but I know 7 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:24,119 Speaker 2: child boy knows. 8 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:28,200 Speaker 3: Secret secrets are no fun. Secret secrets hurt someone. 9 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:30,960 Speaker 2: I'm Mail twenty three. Have been married to my wife 10 00:00:31,040 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 2: for just over five years. We have a four year 11 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:35,479 Speaker 2: old daughter. For the past week or two, I've had 12 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 2: suspicions that my wife was talking to someone indoor cheating 13 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:40,879 Speaker 2: on me. Last night after I got home, when she 14 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 2: was asleep, I checked her phone and confirmed my suspicions. 15 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 2: By the way, this comes from user Jerry E twelve 16 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 2: And if you want to submit your own stories, go 17 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:51,360 Speaker 2: to the r slash Okay Storytime subbrendit. 18 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 1: I'm Dakota, and I'm Angie, I'm Riley, and we're here 19 00:00:55,680 --> 00:00:56,960 Speaker 1: to give good advice goofully. 20 00:00:57,000 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 2: But we don't have all the answers. We just know 21 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:02,279 Speaker 2: what we would do in a given situation. So if 22 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:04,400 Speaker 2: you would do something different, let us know in the comments. 23 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:07,680 Speaker 2: She's been talking to a co worker, and the texts 24 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:10,560 Speaker 2: from the past two days. Previous texts had been deleted 25 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 2: range from both of them saying I love you to 26 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 2: making plans today for him to come to my house 27 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:20,279 Speaker 2: today while I'm at work. While they didn't definitively say 28 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:23,560 Speaker 2: they were going to have spicy sleep, it was strongly 29 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 2: implied there is some evidence of other spicily related acts 30 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:31,760 Speaker 2: already having taken place. I am now sitting at a 31 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:34,399 Speaker 2: waffle house after calling into work to say I'm not 32 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 2: coming in. I'm planning on trying to get proof of 33 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:40,320 Speaker 2: the visit if he does come over by watching when 34 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 2: my alarm is armed slash disarmed through the app on 35 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 2: my phone after my research. If it ends in divorce, 36 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 2: if I can prove she has committed adultery, she will 37 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 2: not be eligible for any alimony in my stay. I 38 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 2: could if I wanted to stop them from having spasses 39 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 2: sleep by going home and confront her before it happens, 40 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:02,840 Speaker 2: but it could cost me a lot in the long 41 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 2: run if our marriage does fall apart. I love her 42 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 2: and don't want it to end, but I can't see 43 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 2: how I can forgive her for this. Even if I 44 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 2: confronted r now, I would always still feel the same 45 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 2: as if she did have spicy sleep with him. This hurts. 46 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 2: I love her more than anything, and I feel like 47 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 2: there is a hole in my chest and lead in 48 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 2: my stomach. I am physically hungry, but can't bring myself 49 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 2: to eat because I'm so nauseous. I can't stop shaking. 50 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:28,240 Speaker 2: I can't think straight. I feel like a part of 51 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:30,920 Speaker 2: me has been ripped out. I'm terrified of what this 52 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 2: will mean for my life, and more than that, the 53 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:35,640 Speaker 2: life of my daughter. I need advice. I don't know 54 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 2: what to do. And there's an update, folks. While I 55 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:40,400 Speaker 2: still feel physically sick, I am able to think clearer 56 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:43,519 Speaker 2: thans to everyone. I'll keep you all updated as this unfolds. 57 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 2: Update too. I haven't left this post since I created it, 58 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 2: and I've still not stopped reading. This is the only 59 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 2: thing keeping me sane right now. I have yet to 60 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 2: confront them, as the guy hasn't shown up, and I 61 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 2: don't think he will today. At least, maybe she caught 62 00:02:56,919 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 2: on that I knew. I tried to play it like 63 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:01,400 Speaker 2: nothing was wrong this morning when I left, but it hurt. 64 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 2: Not sure if she bought it. In their text, they 65 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:05,800 Speaker 2: had planned for him to come over Thursday morning. It 66 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 2: is currently twelve forty pm. If he doesn't show up, 67 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 2: I think I'm gonna talk to her about it tonight. 68 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 2: Update three The guy never showed up, So here is 69 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 2: the current plan. I'm going to act like nothing is 70 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 2: wrong for now. After talking to you all and family, 71 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:19,800 Speaker 2: I think I can put on an act like nothing 72 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 2: is wrong. I'll go see a lawyer in the morning, 73 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 2: and I talked to a PI that I'll probably be hiring. 74 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:26,839 Speaker 2: I know from the text that she planned on having 75 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 2: him come over during the hunting trip. I have planned 76 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:30,520 Speaker 2: for next weekend, so I'm gonna make sure I go 77 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 2: and that the PI knows. I think I've decided I'm done. 78 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 2: I don't want to try to fix it. I'm going 79 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 2: to cover my bases and get out. It's not just 80 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 2: an affair in the sense that she's having Zispasa sleep. 81 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 2: She tells him she loves them, and she doesn't seem 82 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:43,840 Speaker 2: to love me anymore. I feel like she's trying to 83 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 2: use me. She wanted a new car and for me 84 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 2: to pay for her to go to school, but wanted 85 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 2: to be with him. Currently. She left to pick up 86 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 2: my daughter from daycare. I'm watching the time. I know 87 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 2: how long it should take. If she takes longer, I 88 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 2: can guess where she went. Either way, I'm gonna try 89 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 2: to make it through Christmas, my daughter's birthday next Friday, 90 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 2: without saying anything about this. Hopefully the PI can find 91 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 2: evidence then updates number four. So he came home and 92 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 2: I acted normal. Everything seemed normal. We joked a bit, 93 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 2: which hurt when your heart broken, and had dinner. Sitting 94 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 2: on the couch. After dinner, she asks me to pause 95 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 2: the TV and asks when I was gonna mention it. 96 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 2: I asked what it was, and she said she knew 97 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 2: I saw the texts. The conversation started. She tells me 98 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 2: that he didn't come over, which obviously I knew that, 99 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 2: and that she told him she doesn't want to talk 100 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:33,720 Speaker 2: to him anymore. She blocked his number. Obviously, since she's 101 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 2: done this, the original plan is off the table. My 102 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 2: heart is broken. I don't know if I can ever 103 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 2: forgive her or trust her. I don't know if I 104 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 2: can be in a relationship with her. She wants to 105 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 2: work on us, I don't know if I'm willing to 106 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 2: or not. She says she was talking to him because 107 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:49,840 Speaker 2: she didn't feel wanted. Well, imagine how oh he feels now, dummy. 108 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:51,120 Speaker 4: Imagine how tired we are of it. 109 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:55,280 Speaker 2: She didn't feel a deep emotional connection between us, and 110 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 2: he knew all the right things to say, she said. 111 00:04:58,000 --> 00:04:59,840 Speaker 2: She told him she couldn't be with him and told 112 00:04:59,839 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 2: her multiple times she was done with him. Yet here 113 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 2: she is inviting him to our house. She said it 114 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 2: wasn't a choice what she felt for him. The exact 115 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:10,600 Speaker 2: story was along the lines of he was bagging at 116 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 2: my register one day and I accidentally touched his hand 117 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 2: and it was like. 118 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 5: Electricity, So naturally. 119 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 2: What a dumb, idiot thing to say. You don't understand. 120 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 2: I touched his hand and immediately was willing to throw 121 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:26,720 Speaker 2: away our marriage. I know you're probably reading this and 122 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 2: thinking it's a load to byes. Yeah, me too. How 123 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:31,920 Speaker 2: am I supposed to trust her? I can't see her 124 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 2: side of this. Should I give her a chance? Did 125 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:36,159 Speaker 2: I try to work on things? I don't know? Do 126 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 2: I want to? Is it worth it? I have to 127 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:40,840 Speaker 2: figure all this out, I told her. I can't decide now, 128 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:42,360 Speaker 2: and I have to think about it. I'm thinking about 129 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:44,240 Speaker 2: asking some coworkers if I can crash on their couch 130 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 2: for a few days, get away from it all, and think, 131 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:48,719 Speaker 2: of course I'd come back for Christmas for my daughter's sake. 132 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 2: I don't see any point in hiring the PI now, 133 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 2: as I genuinely don't think she'd do anything for a while. 134 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 2: But maybe I'm wrong. Obviously I have been before. I'm 135 00:05:55,960 --> 00:05:58,680 Speaker 2: taking plenty of precautions in the meantime to make sure 136 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 2: I know what she is doing, and if anything is questionable, 137 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 2: I'm done. And there's a fifth update. I'm gonna do 138 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:07,360 Speaker 2: a little Q and a section for the most asked question? Question? 139 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 2: How did she find out that I know? Answer? In 140 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:12,360 Speaker 2: two ways. She had a strong suspicion that I knew 141 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 2: because when she woke up there was a notification on 142 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 2: her phone for a new screenshot, but when she clicked 143 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 2: it there was no file. She was one hundred percent 144 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:20,039 Speaker 2: sure I knew when she found this post. She's seen it. 145 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 2: She's probably reading this now, hey wife. Question? What did 146 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:26,040 Speaker 2: she say when I asked if she had Zispasa sleep 147 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:28,360 Speaker 2: with him? She said no. I'm inclined to believe her 148 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:30,719 Speaker 2: because many of the texts, including some of the last ones, 149 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:33,600 Speaker 2: he was saying how excited he was to finally see her. 150 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 2: This doesn't mean I believe that she didn't, not at all. 151 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:39,280 Speaker 2: It doesn't change how I feel whether she did or not. 152 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 2: She planned on it and probably would have if I 153 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 2: hadn't found out. Question how do I know she won't 154 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:46,600 Speaker 2: do it again? Answer is obviously I don't. If we 155 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:48,280 Speaker 2: try to fix things, I'll probably never be able to 156 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 2: fully trust her again. She's going to have to prove 157 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 2: that she will be one hundred percent honest with me. 158 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 2: Roughly eighty to ninety percent of you are telling me 159 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 2: to lawyer up and leave her. The other ten percent 160 00:06:56,720 --> 00:06:58,719 Speaker 2: are telling me to either give it a shot or 161 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:00,360 Speaker 2: to do what I want. Thank you to everyone that 162 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:02,359 Speaker 2: is commented. It means a lot to me that so 163 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 2: many people have taken the time to try and help 164 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 2: or comfort me. She was saying that she did what 165 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 2: she did with him because she felt unwanted, but she 166 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:11,840 Speaker 2: understood that it was her fault. She knows she should 167 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 2: have talked to me. She knows she's the one in 168 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 2: the wrong. She says she doesn't blame me for it. 169 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:19,240 Speaker 2: I didn't push her away and make her do this. 170 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 2: Our marriage hasn't been perfect. We've had issues we've had 171 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 2: issues communicating, especially lately, we haven't had a great SPATA 172 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 2: sleep life. I felt like she didn't care enough, and 173 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 2: she felt like I didn't care enough. Neither of us 174 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 2: tried enough to work on it. Does that mean I 175 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 2: blame myself for this? No, not even a little bit. 176 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 2: She did this and she knows. That's how I feel now. 177 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 2: For the plan going forward, I thought long and hard 178 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 2: last night and this morning about what I wanted, what 179 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 2: would make me happy. I want to stay, but that 180 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 2: doesn't mean I've decided to. I want us to work 181 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 2: things out and talk to counselors and our marriage be 182 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 2: better than ever, But I have no idea if that 183 00:07:56,880 --> 00:08:00,040 Speaker 2: will happen. After I knew she read this post, I 184 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 2: knew that she knew about sc law on adultery and 185 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 2: that she wouldn't be entitled to alimony if she was caught. 186 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 2: That was my only defense. Now that she knows, I 187 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:12,920 Speaker 2: don't think she'd do anything with anyone For a long time, 188 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:15,480 Speaker 2: I think, do you not already have the evidence that 189 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 2: she cheated and that it was adultery? Does it have 190 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:21,240 Speaker 2: to be coitus for it to be adultery? I came 191 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 2: up with an idea. I knew I couldn't and wouldn't 192 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 2: trust her for a long time. If ever again, if 193 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 2: we tried to fix things, I figured out the only 194 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 2: thing that can even start to make me believe that 195 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 2: maybe she actually wants to stay with me for me 196 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:37,720 Speaker 2: and work on our relationship, and not stay with me 197 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 2: for what I can do for her. I asked her 198 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 2: if she would sign a post nuptial agreement, if she 199 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 2: will agree to sign a contract that if we divorce, 200 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:49,440 Speaker 2: even at no fault, she gets nothing, no alimony, no 201 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 2: possessions except certain outlined things that are undeniably hers, and 202 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:57,560 Speaker 2: no child support. Let me clarify, I would never not 203 00:08:57,720 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 2: support my daughter, and I wouldn't keep my daughter from her. 204 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 2: I'd just like to avoid court ordered child support and 205 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 2: give her X amount to support my daughter based on 206 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:09,440 Speaker 2: how long she has her at any given time. At 207 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:12,600 Speaker 2: this point, if the post nuptial agreement works how I hope, 208 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:15,560 Speaker 2: and she signs it, I think I'd be willing to 209 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:17,560 Speaker 2: try to work on things. I know a lot of 210 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 2: you aren't gonna like this. Maybe she's lying to me, 211 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 2: maybe she really is problematic. But I knew her before 212 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:25,840 Speaker 2: she did this. I knew her before our marriage degraded. 213 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:27,840 Speaker 2: I don't think she did it because she wanted to 214 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 2: have the splashes sleep with someone else. I don't think 215 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:32,440 Speaker 2: she did it because she doesn't love me. I think 216 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 2: she did it because he was telling her the exact 217 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 2: same things I used to when we were first together. 218 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:41,240 Speaker 2: I think she misses what we used to be, and 219 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 2: while we will never be what we used to be, 220 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:46,960 Speaker 2: this will go one of three ways. Either we try 221 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:49,360 Speaker 2: to work on things and it doesn't work out and 222 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:51,520 Speaker 2: we get a divorce. We try to work on things 223 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 2: and she continues to cheat and we get a divorce, 224 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 2: or we try to work on things and we fix 225 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:57,800 Speaker 2: problems we have had with ourselves and our marriage since 226 00:09:57,800 --> 00:10:00,240 Speaker 2: we first got together. In our marriage and relationship be 227 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:02,839 Speaker 2: stronger than it has ever been. I'm hoping for the latter. 228 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 2: And there's a sixth update currently sitting at the bar, 229 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:09,120 Speaker 2: drink it some jack and Coca cola. So we talked. 230 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 2: He tried to work things out and it seemed like 231 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 2: it was getting better. Then she said that she wasn't 232 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:15,720 Speaker 2: sure how she felt or if she wanted to try. 233 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:18,600 Speaker 2: We talked some more and she said she did want 234 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 2: to try. We had a session of counseling with a 235 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:24,560 Speaker 2: therapist Wednesday. The counseling went more or less like this. 236 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 2: She said she felt like she wasn't getting enough out 237 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:29,719 Speaker 2: of the marriage and that I didn't care or talk 238 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 2: to her. The therapist asked her some questions and she 239 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:35,679 Speaker 2: answered basically saying she could tell I did care and 240 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 2: did talk to her. Therapists explained to her that it 241 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 2: wasn't that I didn't care, and instead that she just 242 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:45,160 Speaker 2: wasn't happy with it and didn't know what she wanted. Well, 243 00:10:45,559 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 2: she decided what she wanted last night. She started setting 244 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:50,760 Speaker 2: up an air mattress in the extra room, and I 245 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:53,680 Speaker 2: saw she had some new sheets that she had ordered 246 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:55,440 Speaker 2: to fit it. I looked at her phone to see 247 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:59,080 Speaker 2: when she had ordered them, and she was texting him again. Wait, 248 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 2: that's actually that's crazy. 249 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 3: That's crazy, like, oh, I'm just trying to see when 250 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 3: you decided to sleep in another room. But I've found 251 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:11,200 Speaker 3: something way worse, like you're still talking to this guy. 252 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:14,439 Speaker 2: We will be getting a divorce. I know a lot 253 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:16,600 Speaker 2: of you are going to say I don't do so, 254 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:18,599 Speaker 2: but I was one hundred percent aware this was a 255 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 2: possibility when I tried to work things out, and I 256 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:23,600 Speaker 2: don't regret it at all. I'll look back on this 257 00:11:23,679 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 2: in the future and know I did everything I could 258 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 2: to fix thing. I have nothing left to regret, and 259 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:31,680 Speaker 2: that makes me happy. I tried, and I can never 260 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 2: blame myself now, as you can't just stop loving at will. 261 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 2: I do still love her. I don't forgive her, and 262 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 2: I may never forgive her, but I don't resent her. 263 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:43,400 Speaker 2: I still want the best for her and our daughter 264 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:46,160 Speaker 2: and want her to be happy. I genuinely believe she 265 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 2: regrets hurting me, but can't help how she feels we 266 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:51,880 Speaker 2: are done. But she is currently planning to move back 267 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:55,040 Speaker 2: to Florida with her family, which means leaving this guy too. 268 00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 2: She doesn't think she can be happy with me anymore, 269 00:11:57,160 --> 00:11:58,960 Speaker 2: but I don't really think she's leaving me to be 270 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:01,960 Speaker 2: with him. In my opinion, she's excited about the pursuit 271 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:04,800 Speaker 2: the puppy dog love that you get when you meet 272 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 2: someone new. I think she is damaged and needs help 273 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 2: to figure herself out and her self image issues. She 274 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 2: will be staying here in our house for the time 275 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 2: being and seeing a therapist while she still gets the 276 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:19,120 Speaker 2: benefit of being married to me. Bye South Carolina law. 277 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:21,960 Speaker 2: We will have to live apart for a year before 278 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:23,960 Speaker 2: we can file for the divorce, but she will be 279 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:27,720 Speaker 2: leaving relatively soon. We have agreed to do mediation instead 280 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:30,320 Speaker 2: of having lawyers involved to save us money and fighting. 281 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 2: We still get along well enough. She has agreed that 282 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 2: she will not pursue alimony, and I think she will 283 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:37,000 Speaker 2: be giving me full custody of our daughter if the 284 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 2: courts accept it, but with her still getting as much 285 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:41,760 Speaker 2: visitation as possible. I won't try to harm her in 286 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:43,840 Speaker 2: this process. And although I love you all for all 287 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:45,760 Speaker 2: the support and everything you have done for me, you 288 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 2: don't know me and you don't know her. She's not 289 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:50,960 Speaker 2: a terrible person. I truly believe she's telling me the 290 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 2: truth and won't try to harm me either. It's gonna 291 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 2: be rough for a long time, but we'll make it 292 00:12:55,080 --> 00:13:00,280 Speaker 2: through this. The most important thing for me right now 293 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:02,960 Speaker 2: is making sure our daughter is taken care of and 294 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 2: that we do what's best for her. I appreciate you 295 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 2: all more than you can know. Thanks for reading. Thanks 296 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 2: for everything. And there's a seventh update. It's been four 297 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 2: years since I discovered that my ex wife was cheating 298 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 2: on me. I've had many people ask for an update 299 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:20,199 Speaker 2: and decided it's finally time for one. After the day 300 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:22,600 Speaker 2: or two of activity that the last post took place 301 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 2: in my ex Sheila and I spoke. She made promises 302 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:29,040 Speaker 2: to stop talking to the other guy, but of course 303 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:32,440 Speaker 2: couldn't keep her promises. Within a month or two, after 304 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:37,200 Speaker 2: trying and failing counseling, Sheila moved out. She stayed with 305 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:39,960 Speaker 2: her lover, and they remained together to this day. I 306 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:42,600 Speaker 2: retained custody of our daughter and life went on. I 307 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:45,240 Speaker 2: went through a deep depression. I'm honestly surprised that I 308 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:47,320 Speaker 2: came out of the other side of it. I have 309 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:50,320 Speaker 2: you all, my daughter and my mother to think for that. 310 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:52,960 Speaker 2: We actually get along better now than we have since 311 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:55,560 Speaker 2: I discovered she was cheating. Not to say we're friends, 312 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:58,920 Speaker 2: but I've moved on and have stopped holding resentment for 313 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:01,200 Speaker 2: what she did to me. Believe in karma and feel 314 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:04,079 Speaker 2: like she's gotten hers. She hasn't had an easy life 315 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 2: these past four years. I have not stopped resenting her 316 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:10,240 Speaker 2: for being a bad mother, but I've accepted that I 317 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 2: can't fix that. Instead, I'm focused on being the best 318 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:16,040 Speaker 2: father I can for my daughter. She just turned eight 319 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 2: and is the most amazing child anyone could ask for. 320 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:21,800 Speaker 2: I've actually just come out of a two year relationship 321 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:24,720 Speaker 2: that didn't end badly, but we're just going our separate ways, 322 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 2: and for the first time in my life, I'm happy 323 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:29,640 Speaker 2: and excited for my life as a single man. My 324 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:32,120 Speaker 2: life isn't perfect, but it's as good as it's ever been. 325 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 2: Thank you so much to everyone that helped me through 326 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:37,360 Speaker 2: the hardest part of my life. I'll never forget you. 327 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:40,000 Speaker 2: To anyone going through a difficult time, it gets better. 328 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:42,080 Speaker 2: Make it to the other side. It's worth it. 329 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 5: I promise is not just so true. It's worth it. 330 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 4: You'll make it over and then you'll be so much better. 331 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 3: And then he's coming great. 332 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 2: A stranger introduced himself as my real father, but I 333 00:14:55,920 --> 00:14:57,120 Speaker 2: already have one. 334 00:14:57,760 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 5: I don't have any father. He left me at nine 335 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:01,400 Speaker 5: years old. 336 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 2: The trigger warning is mentions of He claims that he 337 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 2: was married to my mom before my dad, and she 338 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:12,120 Speaker 2: left him for my dad. He says this happened while 339 00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:14,680 Speaker 2: she was pregnant with me, and she put my dad 340 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:18,720 Speaker 2: on the birth certificate, and they my parents and grandfather 341 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 2: used their power and money to make sure he couldn't 342 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:24,440 Speaker 2: stay in contact with me. He also claims when I 343 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:27,600 Speaker 2: was five, he tried again and my dad stopped him. 344 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 2: He says he is just now contacting me because with 345 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:34,160 Speaker 2: my granddad's tragic passing last year, it is safe now. 346 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:36,440 Speaker 2: And by the way, this comes from user and non 347 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:39,640 Speaker 2: tw and if you want to submit your own stories, 348 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 2: go to the r slash okay storytime subreddit. I'm Dakota, 349 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:48,360 Speaker 2: I'm shak and I'm Keon and uh, we're gonna try 350 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:51,680 Speaker 2: to give our best advice, but nobody's perfect. If I think, uh, 351 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 2: we should do something different or say something different, let 352 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:58,840 Speaker 2: us know in the comments. OHP says, here's the issues 353 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:03,360 Speaker 2: with this man story. He had no documentation, although he 354 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:06,800 Speaker 2: promised to show me and suggested he'd bring some to 355 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:10,080 Speaker 2: my apartment that he knows the location of. I am 356 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 2: also twenty, so why now. My dad is a nonviolent man. 357 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:18,760 Speaker 2: I can't see him breaking anyone's fingers. So he never 358 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:21,560 Speaker 2: spanked me when I was a kid and was always 359 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:26,160 Speaker 2: the pushover parent. My grandpa traded stocks. He was hardly 360 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:30,160 Speaker 2: a mafia kingpin. He that actually in the mafia. H 361 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 2: don't know. My parents were childhood sweethearts and are still 362 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:37,280 Speaker 2: crazy about each other. In addition to being decent people, 363 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 2: he also kept commenting on my money, saying I looked 364 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:43,880 Speaker 2: like a banker wearing jeans and a button up, asking 365 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:46,520 Speaker 2: if my dad gave me my watch and how much 366 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:49,320 Speaker 2: my bike cost. He did tell me his name and 367 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:52,400 Speaker 2: his number and showed his license, and I'm considering running 368 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:55,920 Speaker 2: a background check, but my parents see my expenses in 369 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:58,920 Speaker 2: his favor, I do look like him. I think old 370 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:02,640 Speaker 2: humans look like I've never seen my parents' wedding pictures. 371 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 2: He didn't seem insane. He knew a lot of information 372 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:07,919 Speaker 2: that would be hard to find about my family. He 373 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:11,080 Speaker 2: mentioned a coat I had as a kid. I'm an 374 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:13,840 Speaker 2: only child, and my mom said they never got so 375 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 2: lucky as to have another. I don't know. I would 376 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:20,240 Speaker 2: usually ask my parents, but my mom just got diagnosed 377 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:23,639 Speaker 2: with breast and I don't want to worry her or 378 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:26,439 Speaker 2: my dad that some psycho is trying to swindle me 379 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 2: or pester or harm me. 380 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:33,359 Speaker 6: I'm sorry, tell your parents that I'm none has told 381 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:34,679 Speaker 6: you he's your father. 382 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:37,879 Speaker 2: This is a real kind of getting the parents involved. 383 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:39,359 Speaker 2: The situation. 384 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:44,400 Speaker 6: If my daughter, which I assume I have, yeah, if 385 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 6: my daughter the next movie, you for sure have a 386 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:47,960 Speaker 6: daughter in the next movie. 387 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 5: What movie are you talking? 388 00:17:50,119 --> 00:17:51,600 Speaker 2: It's okay, it's okay. 389 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:54,760 Speaker 6: Oh oh they If my daughter found out or I 390 00:17:54,800 --> 00:17:57,520 Speaker 6: don't know how the strange man come up to her 391 00:17:57,560 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 6: and see, I'm your dad, take me in or whatever 392 00:18:01,119 --> 00:18:04,320 Speaker 6: he wants, I'd expect her to come right to me 393 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:08,320 Speaker 6: and see Da. A strange man told me he's Mada, 394 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:11,199 Speaker 6: aren't you Mada, And I'd say, of course, I'm your Da, 395 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:13,359 Speaker 6: thank you for telling me, and then I'll go. 396 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:15,639 Speaker 5: See what's up. You know what it is. 397 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:18,480 Speaker 6: It's just like at that moment when they gave me 398 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:21,160 Speaker 6: the potion to turn me into human. 399 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:23,080 Speaker 2: Shreds, a few hot shreds, and then. 400 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:26,320 Speaker 5: Prince Charming tried to steal my life. It's just like that. 401 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:30,160 Speaker 2: It basically is Edit number one. I called my real 402 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:33,840 Speaker 2: dad first, deciding that he was a better call than 403 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:37,240 Speaker 2: fake Dad or the cops until I assessed the situation. 404 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:41,400 Speaker 2: I asked if he knew this guy. He responded by 405 00:18:41,480 --> 00:18:44,640 Speaker 2: asking if I was at my apartment. When I said yes, 406 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:47,439 Speaker 2: he said he'd be there in half an hour. Crap, 407 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:50,600 Speaker 2: this isn't good. And there's another edit. He is my 408 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:54,240 Speaker 2: biological father, my dad, and my mom showed up. He 409 00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:57,000 Speaker 2: said it was more her story than his, and apparently 410 00:18:57,440 --> 00:19:00,560 Speaker 2: when they were married he was harmful, and when she 411 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 2: told him she filed for divorce, it did not end well. 412 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:06,760 Speaker 2: She decided promptly that he would never get near enough 413 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:09,520 Speaker 2: to hurt her child. Her childhood best friend offered to 414 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:12,439 Speaker 2: marry her. This is all pretty convoluted. My life and 415 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:14,920 Speaker 2: parents are a lot different than they were this morning, 416 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 2: and there are some comments what happened after your parents came. 417 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:21,320 Speaker 2: I opened the door, and I was surprised to see 418 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:24,280 Speaker 2: my mom, although I should have known he wouldn't come alone, 419 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:26,960 Speaker 2: both because that's not how they do things, and because 420 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:30,480 Speaker 2: on Tuesdays at that time he's usually home between business 421 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:35,080 Speaker 2: and racquetball. We greet my mom, hugs me. My dad 422 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:37,240 Speaker 2: just puts his hand on my cheek and says that 423 00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:40,400 Speaker 2: I'm everything he could want in a son. I say, so, 424 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:44,359 Speaker 2: who is that guy? My mom says, I'll start at 425 00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:47,040 Speaker 2: the beginning. I met him when I was nineteen. He 426 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:48,440 Speaker 2: was a moody violinist. 427 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:51,680 Speaker 5: And did she every time those moody violinists? 428 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:56,200 Speaker 6: If Yola almost married the violinist? No, he got burned 429 00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 6: up by a dragon. Oh, he thought he could charm 430 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:01,160 Speaker 6: the dry with a little violin. 431 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:03,439 Speaker 2: I'm glad that you guys have looked past that and 432 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:05,200 Speaker 2: have come to be friends. 433 00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:08,520 Speaker 6: Well, she's got a much higher body count than I do. 434 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:10,359 Speaker 2: Oh I've only got one. 435 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:14,639 Speaker 6: She's had many other relationships, although short lived because they 436 00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:20,879 Speaker 6: usually fiery. However, I support women, and I know that 437 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:23,560 Speaker 6: she's allowed to have a history. 438 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:27,800 Speaker 2: That's true, and your mama's a history. Don't let anyone 439 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:29,600 Speaker 2: tell you Shrek doesn't support. 440 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:30,439 Speaker 5: I support women. 441 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:35,000 Speaker 6: I support women's rights and women's wrongs which don't exist 442 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:36,800 Speaker 6: because women are never wrong. 443 00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 5: That's what Fiona tells me. 444 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 2: It's a good Shrek. 445 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:42,159 Speaker 5: That's the key to a happy marriage. Your wife is 446 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:46,120 Speaker 5: never wrong. So she's just confused. But don't tell her that. 447 00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 2: I met this moody violinist and it seemed the right 448 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:51,840 Speaker 2: amount of rebellion to fall in love with him. I 449 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:54,160 Speaker 2: was hardly the type to date a drummer. And then 450 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:56,919 Speaker 2: it unfolded. By the end, me and my mom are crying. 451 00:20:57,359 --> 00:20:59,719 Speaker 2: My dad is holding her arm, and I don't know 452 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:02,000 Speaker 2: why why this bothered me, but I asked if they 453 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:04,440 Speaker 2: were in love. My dad said, I've loved your mother 454 00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:07,120 Speaker 2: since I was five years old, but we're both so stubborn. 455 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:09,919 Speaker 2: It may have taken us forty years to realize it 456 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:13,159 Speaker 2: if we hadn't become a family to protect you. Lovely, 457 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:16,160 Speaker 2: that is lovely. We were going to get a divorce 458 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:18,840 Speaker 2: when you were two, but we were so happy neither 459 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:21,520 Speaker 2: of us brought it up. Then we all laughed a little, 460 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:24,080 Speaker 2: and I'm heading there for dinner in a few hours. 461 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:26,600 Speaker 2: It's a screwed up situation, but my family is still 462 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:29,680 Speaker 2: my family, and I'm a lucky guy. Did your dad 463 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:33,520 Speaker 2: really meet him? Yes, my dad said. When I was little, 464 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:35,919 Speaker 2: my mom caught him watching us in the park and 465 00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:38,960 Speaker 2: promptly ushered me into the car. He came to the apartment, 466 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:41,440 Speaker 2: and she went down to the lobby. He cornered her, 467 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:44,560 Speaker 2: and when his charm said, I gave you such a 468 00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 2: fine son. He's got my looks, doesn't he. I think 469 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 2: the least you owe me is a few hours, he 470 00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:52,119 Speaker 2: got aggressive and had to be escorted out by security. 471 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:55,560 Speaker 2: He was waiting for my dad outside his office the 472 00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:58,520 Speaker 2: next day. My dad is angry, but listens to him. 473 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:01,520 Speaker 2: Go on, give a man an other rope. He always says, 474 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 2: Then he mentions money. He's been deprived of his son. 475 00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:07,480 Speaker 2: If this continues, reparation only seems fair. 476 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:11,400 Speaker 6: He's trying to buy your son, but I suppose he's 477 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:13,400 Speaker 6: trying to sell the other way around. 478 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:16,119 Speaker 2: He's trying to say, give me some money because I 479 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:18,879 Speaker 2: haven't been able to be with my son. He's pulling 480 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:23,679 Speaker 2: reverse child supports. Do they have reverse child support? No? 481 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:27,840 Speaker 6: In mid Yeah, I've never asked because I take care 482 00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:31,160 Speaker 6: of my children like a real man slash sugar. 483 00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:37,200 Speaker 5: Also, I don't have money for the kids. Do the dishes. 484 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:40,320 Speaker 2: She's got the income. It's okay, Shrek. We don't think 485 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:41,000 Speaker 2: any less of you. 486 00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:43,480 Speaker 5: I don't think any less of me. She's the breadwinner. 487 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:47,080 Speaker 2: My dad decided that you can't stalk his family and 488 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:50,200 Speaker 2: shake around his wife with loose threats. So he told 489 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:52,520 Speaker 2: him that he will never give him a dime or 490 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:55,000 Speaker 2: let him ruin his son. And how did your parents 491 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:57,600 Speaker 2: get married? Well, my parents claim they married his friends 492 00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:00,200 Speaker 2: to give me a name other than his, and to 493 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:03,880 Speaker 2: father to make it difficult should that guy ever attempt 494 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:07,919 Speaker 2: to use me as leverage. Then they fell in love. Originally, 495 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:11,159 Speaker 2: they planned to divorce after a respectable time frame, but 496 00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:14,600 Speaker 2: they found marriage suited them. And how are your parents now? 497 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:17,600 Speaker 2: They've always been best friends. There's a picture on our 498 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:20,479 Speaker 2: mantle of them at five years old. Their nannies used 499 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:22,919 Speaker 2: to let them play together. They were never romantic, they 500 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:26,120 Speaker 2: both claimed. My mom says her father was so severe 501 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 2: and unemotional that she never would have risked the person 502 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:32,080 Speaker 2: closest to her for mere dating. Then they got married 503 00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:35,240 Speaker 2: to protect me, and they're madly in love. They have 504 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:38,200 Speaker 2: lunch together every day. I remember as a kid being 505 00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:41,440 Speaker 2: embarrassed by how much they touched that. During a sleepover, 506 00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:43,719 Speaker 2: We'd walk out and they'd just be reading with his 507 00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:46,280 Speaker 2: head in her lap. They are very happy. Honestly, this 508 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:48,800 Speaker 2: story seems completely out of nature for him. He's really 509 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:51,159 Speaker 2: mild mannered and never raised a hand to me. My 510 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:53,600 Speaker 2: mom is the more serious partner. Why are there no 511 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:56,679 Speaker 2: half siblings? Well, my dad is infertile. They tried for 512 00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:59,080 Speaker 2: years to have another baby and it never happened. And 513 00:23:59,160 --> 00:23:59,919 Speaker 2: there's an update? 514 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:01,200 Speaker 5: Is this beautiful? 515 00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:04,440 Speaker 6: Who's this man who tried to come in and ruin 516 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:05,000 Speaker 6: all of U? 517 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:08,080 Speaker 5: Because I won't tell him some strong words? 518 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:10,919 Speaker 6: I could be scary when I want to, just because 519 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:12,760 Speaker 6: I'm married and I have three kids. 520 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:16,320 Speaker 5: Doesn't mean I can't be scary. I know what. I 521 00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:17,200 Speaker 5: frighten the man. 522 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:20,199 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true. I've seen it. I've seen you put 523 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:21,720 Speaker 2: the fear in their eyes. 524 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:24,040 Speaker 6: I look at them and I say, this is the 525 00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:26,879 Speaker 6: part of well you run and they run away. 526 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 2: It's right. 527 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:30,600 Speaker 5: I tell that to this man, and he run away too. 528 00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:32,680 Speaker 2: I would also tell this man to run away because 529 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:34,600 Speaker 2: he's lying to you about your parents. 530 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:38,440 Speaker 5: Probably wouldn't work for you. You look too normal. Thank 531 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:39,600 Speaker 5: You're very frightening. 532 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:42,399 Speaker 2: Thank you. That's a compliment for me. 533 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:45,159 Speaker 6: Well, it was an insult, but you can take it 534 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:45,920 Speaker 6: as a compliment. 535 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:50,960 Speaker 2: I'll take it as the update Boblet. My question got 536 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:54,520 Speaker 2: an amazing amount of replies, and I appreciate it so 537 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:57,560 Speaker 2: not being a butt, I decided to give a final 538 00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:00,240 Speaker 2: update before I go back to my usual account. After 539 00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:03,919 Speaker 2: a lot of thought, I've decided that all issues aside. 540 00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 2: I simply have no interest in this man who has 541 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:10,360 Speaker 2: my jaw and some shared DNA. I'm a junior at 542 00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:14,680 Speaker 2: NYU doing a dual major and overload this semester. Between 543 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:18,040 Speaker 2: that and lining up internships, I barely have time to sleep. 544 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:20,879 Speaker 2: I have a great family and couldn't ask for better. 545 00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:23,159 Speaker 2: I was never the kid who wished his parents were 546 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:26,640 Speaker 2: anyone else except maybe Batman. When I was nine, shout out, 547 00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:29,040 Speaker 2: I wish I had more time for them than once 548 00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:31,720 Speaker 2: a week dinner and phone calls. I don't wish I 549 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:35,240 Speaker 2: had some extra father figure, and I've got enough friends. 550 00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:37,439 Speaker 2: If he were a decent man, I might feel like 551 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:39,480 Speaker 2: I owe it to him, But considering the fact that 552 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:42,880 Speaker 2: his actions resulted in this, and if my mom had stayed, 553 00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:46,000 Speaker 2: I would have been raised in a harmful home, likely 554 00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:49,560 Speaker 2: mistreated myself. I don't feel bad about this, just relieved. 555 00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:52,880 Speaker 2: I Also, for those worried about any possible truth from 556 00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:57,119 Speaker 2: fake real Dad asked my dad if I could see 557 00:25:57,160 --> 00:26:00,200 Speaker 2: any of the paperwork on my bio Dad, who was 558 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:03,960 Speaker 2: swage curiosity, and he assuaged it. The divorce papers were 559 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:08,840 Speaker 2: in there, the restraining order, and even evidences of the Yeah, 560 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:10,400 Speaker 2: he is a dirt pickle. 561 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:16,560 Speaker 5: MM, dirt pickle. The only place to find a pickle 562 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:21,400 Speaker 5: he's got you wipe off the dirt. 563 00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:24,560 Speaker 2: Your swamp must be very briny in a city. 564 00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:26,360 Speaker 5: Oh, it's soul vinegar. 565 00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:29,120 Speaker 2: He just throw some cukes into the swamp. 566 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:31,879 Speaker 5: They flow out themselves. 567 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:33,199 Speaker 2: Bury him in the dirt, and then you dig them 568 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:33,880 Speaker 2: up a little later. 569 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:35,760 Speaker 5: I don't even have to dig them up. They'll float 570 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:36,600 Speaker 5: when they're ready. 571 00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:39,440 Speaker 2: That's right, that's how they work. Have you considered turning 572 00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:40,240 Speaker 2: that into a business. 573 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:43,720 Speaker 6: I thought it, but I don't know if I've got 574 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:48,879 Speaker 6: the you know, I don't know if I'm cut for entrepreneurship. 575 00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:52,000 Speaker 5: It's a lot of work. Baffionna thinks I should get 576 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:52,520 Speaker 5: a hobby. 577 00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:55,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the pickles could be a very well 578 00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:55,800 Speaker 2: spring for you. 579 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:58,520 Speaker 5: She thinks I'm too focused on my father leaving me 580 00:26:58,560 --> 00:26:59,440 Speaker 5: at nine years old. 581 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:03,040 Speaker 2: You could start providing some some income, and then maybe 582 00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:05,719 Speaker 2: you'd feel better about her rich parents, you know, if 583 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:10,440 Speaker 2: you Oh sorry, thank you Shrek. So he was waiting 584 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:14,280 Speaker 2: this man at my usual coffee shop today, and I 585 00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:16,399 Speaker 2: will now be finding a new one. Basically, he was 586 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:20,080 Speaker 2: pushy and a butthole. He never once admitted any kind 587 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:23,200 Speaker 2: of wrongdoing or anything. I ended the conversation by saying, 588 00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:26,040 Speaker 2: thank you for contacting me, but I'm happy in life 589 00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:29,280 Speaker 2: right now. If I ever change my mind, i'll contact you. 590 00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:33,439 Speaker 2: He then got this weird look of outraged indignity and 591 00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:37,800 Speaker 2: said that I was an ungrateful little beaster, and that 592 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:40,520 Speaker 2: if he were richer than my dad, I'd be on 593 00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:44,600 Speaker 2: my knees. Then he said that without him, I wouldn't exist, 594 00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:47,240 Speaker 2: said I was his only son, and he wished he 595 00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:50,679 Speaker 2: didn't have one. Heck, he wished he didn't have a daughter, 596 00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:53,480 Speaker 2: as she was just as ungrateful. He said a lot more. 597 00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:56,040 Speaker 2: But that's the gist of it. I have a dad 598 00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:58,520 Speaker 2: and it ain't this joker. I may look up the 599 00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:00,600 Speaker 2: sister at some point in the future when I have 600 00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:03,480 Speaker 2: the time and mindset to explore that, although she's probably 601 00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:08,280 Speaker 2: just a kid, and there are some comments regarding Op's safety. Unfortunately, 602 00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:10,320 Speaker 2: I think the best thing is for me to take 603 00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:13,119 Speaker 2: up my dad's offer of a car and driver until 604 00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:15,480 Speaker 2: all of this settles. I will also be moving into 605 00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:18,600 Speaker 2: a rental property we own because it has tighter access. 606 00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:19,040 Speaker 7: I e. 607 00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:21,080 Speaker 2: A doorman who has to admit you. 608 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:25,840 Speaker 5: A doorman, You've got gump. He's not a doorman. He 609 00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:26,760 Speaker 5: lets everyone in. 610 00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:28,960 Speaker 2: You have ginger, does doesn't he? 611 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:31,359 Speaker 5: A person walks up and says, oh, I'm here to 612 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:31,920 Speaker 5: see Shrek. 613 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:34,520 Speaker 6: He says, oh, I can't do it, donkey impression, but 614 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:36,119 Speaker 6: he just lets him in. 615 00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:38,480 Speaker 5: I said, Donkey, what are you doing? You're right? 616 00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:40,719 Speaker 6: And then strangers into my house and she says, all, 617 00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:42,920 Speaker 6: but a stranger is just a friend. 618 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:44,560 Speaker 5: You haven't net yet. What does that mean? 619 00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:47,360 Speaker 2: That's nice. We were strangers until we met. 620 00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:48,720 Speaker 5: Yeah, we're not friends. 621 00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:54,440 Speaker 6: Well, yeah, it sounds just like donkey. Next thing you'll know, 622 00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:58,280 Speaker 6: you'll be staying in my house, eating my rats, playing 623 00:28:58,360 --> 00:28:59,160 Speaker 6: with but you'll dre. 624 00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:02,480 Speaker 2: I will not be eating your rats, sleeping with my wife. 625 00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:09,440 Speaker 2: Not no ice. No, you've got a shifty Oh no, 626 00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:12,520 Speaker 2: it's okay, Shreke, It's okay, it's okay. 627 00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:13,960 Speaker 5: I've got by Ay, he's on you. 628 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:17,400 Speaker 2: So I honestly should have been in a nicer apartment anyway, 629 00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:20,040 Speaker 2: just on the off chance someone finds out my parent's 630 00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:22,320 Speaker 2: worth and thinks my place would be nice to case 631 00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:26,000 Speaker 2: about the sister. Yeah, I won't contact him about it. 632 00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:29,000 Speaker 2: I'll have a routine background check and she should show up. 633 00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:31,280 Speaker 2: I honestly don't know what to do about it or 634 00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:33,440 Speaker 2: how to go about it. What if her life is horrible, 635 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:35,600 Speaker 2: I don't really have any power to change it. What 636 00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:37,920 Speaker 2: if she's like eight and lives across the country. It 637 00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:40,720 Speaker 2: seems doubtful we'd connect on any meaningful level. I can 638 00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:42,880 Speaker 2: only assume she has a caregiver and hope it's a 639 00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:45,920 Speaker 2: good one. Honestly, contact for me won't do much if 640 00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:47,959 Speaker 2: she was in a bad situation. I'm a twenty year 641 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:51,680 Speaker 2: old kid who's income until my first trust opens is 642 00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:55,280 Speaker 2: entirely dependent on my parents, and I'm not even legally 643 00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:57,920 Speaker 2: her brother. It's all word of mouth. I guess. The 644 00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:00,760 Speaker 2: main point I see is no no need to rush, 645 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:03,760 Speaker 2: even if she's in a less than tenable place. There's 646 00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:06,640 Speaker 2: little I can do to change anything about the biofather. 647 00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:10,200 Speaker 2: I am dismissing my biological father because he's a butt 648 00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:13,760 Speaker 2: to me. Shared experiences are what bond people anyway. That's 649 00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:17,440 Speaker 2: why I love my parents, not because of money or blood. 650 00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:20,560 Speaker 2: I have no interest in a relationship with this guy. 651 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:23,240 Speaker 2: If he hadn't been harmful, we would have had an 652 00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:26,560 Speaker 2: obligated lunch, but I still wouldn't truly want to form 653 00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:29,800 Speaker 2: a relationship. I would just feel obligated to this stranger. 654 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:32,680 Speaker 2: I just don't want to start something until I've considered 655 00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:35,360 Speaker 2: the implications. This could be just as negative in the 656 00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:38,480 Speaker 2: girl's life as it could be positive. It's also possible 657 00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:41,560 Speaker 2: that she might be in contact with my biodad, who 658 00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:44,920 Speaker 2: I want nothing to do with. Let me adjust your facts. 659 00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:49,320 Speaker 2: Biodad did not live near poverty line. He was middle class, 660 00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:52,920 Speaker 2: an amazing violinist who taught in the city and did 661 00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:55,920 Speaker 2: very well. Also, my mom had access to her trust 662 00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:59,040 Speaker 2: fund during the marriage and contributed a large amount to 663 00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:03,640 Speaker 2: household income. Their marriage lasted two years, not counting the separation, 664 00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:08,200 Speaker 2: and there is a final update here. Okay, six months later, 665 00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:11,240 Speaker 2: that's a long time. Today I met my sister. 666 00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:14,040 Speaker 5: Whoa, didn't you just say that. You went on the 667 00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:17,000 Speaker 5: whole thing about how you weren't going to meet your sister. 668 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:19,240 Speaker 2: I guess they changed their mind, shrek. 669 00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:23,680 Speaker 6: Oh, everyone's changing their minds these days. My mind's only 670 00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:28,840 Speaker 6: been changed once twice, maybe three times, three times if 671 00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:31,840 Speaker 6: you count the time I changed my mind. About how 672 00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:36,880 Speaker 6: many times I've changed my mind? First time, Donkey, second time, Fiona, 673 00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:38,400 Speaker 6: never changed my mind. 674 00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:41,520 Speaker 2: After that, never changed the fourth one, and then the 675 00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:42,520 Speaker 2: upcoming fifth. 676 00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:43,840 Speaker 5: One didn't change my mind. 677 00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:45,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, but they're changing the script. 678 00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:48,560 Speaker 5: He don't talk about that. 679 00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:50,000 Speaker 2: I'm sorry that was insensitive. 680 00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:52,840 Speaker 5: I've had you write and then da, I'm. 681 00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:53,720 Speaker 2: Sorry that was insensitive. 682 00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:56,080 Speaker 5: Thank you for apologizing. I appreciate that. 683 00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:59,480 Speaker 2: So I took some time, but eventually curiosity got the 684 00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:03,800 Speaker 2: best of me. She's seventeen and her background is completely 685 00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:06,760 Speaker 2: different than mine. We corresponded a little on the internet, 686 00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:09,880 Speaker 2: but met today and I drove two hours and there's 687 00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:12,640 Speaker 2: a little bit more story here. Let's finish it off 688 00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:16,280 Speaker 2: with is goal. She seemed like a nice girl, but 689 00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:20,000 Speaker 2: I didn't feel like any wow we're related moments or 690 00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:22,160 Speaker 2: a strong sense of kinship. Maybe I don't know how 691 00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:25,080 Speaker 2: siblings are supposed to feel. I don't know. Mostly it 692 00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:27,840 Speaker 2: was awkward. Me and seventeen year old girls don't have 693 00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:30,000 Speaker 2: a lot in common, she said. I reminded her of 694 00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:33,720 Speaker 2: someone on Gossip Girl and owned Justin bieber CDEs. But 695 00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:36,360 Speaker 2: she did reinforce my belief that I'm doing right by 696 00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:39,240 Speaker 2: not connecting with my biodad. He hasn't seen her son 697 00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:42,800 Speaker 2: and hasn't contacted her in a year. So I just 698 00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:44,960 Speaker 2: wanted to let those of you who helped me out 699 00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:48,560 Speaker 2: last year, no thanks, guys. And on meeting the half sister, 700 00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:51,680 Speaker 2: I'm a whole twenty one years old now, full of 701 00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:53,760 Speaker 2: vain wisdom and false prophecy. 702 00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:55,120 Speaker 5: I got prophecy. 703 00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:56,960 Speaker 2: No, it's false prophecy. 704 00:32:57,080 --> 00:33:00,400 Speaker 5: Why is it false? Well, is he like to see 705 00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:01,400 Speaker 5: the Cassandra? 706 00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:03,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, he is. 707 00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:05,120 Speaker 5: Oh what I that makes sense? 708 00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:07,600 Speaker 2: Then, Shrek, you're more cultured than you let on. 709 00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:11,400 Speaker 6: Well, I've read one page of another book. 710 00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:17,640 Speaker 2: We've got two pages now, page you rascal. I like scamp. 711 00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:20,200 Speaker 2: I like you keep things close to the vast time. 712 00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:20,600 Speaker 2: I do. 713 00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:24,680 Speaker 5: But I'm working on it. I'm working on it. It's stuff. 714 00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:27,920 Speaker 2: I guess. It's not just age, although I am the 715 00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:32,280 Speaker 2: youngest in my friend group, but upbringing too. She's uninformed 716 00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:36,760 Speaker 2: about so much. She's also really into yolo and partying 717 00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:40,600 Speaker 2: and drama. She's nice, just really different. And that is 718 00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:44,080 Speaker 2: the end of that story. Hey y'all, it's John Ogi 719 00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:44,520 Speaker 2: host here. 720 00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:45,920 Speaker 1: We're gonna get back to the stories, but here's a 721 00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:47,200 Speaker 1: quick three minute break from as. 722 00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:47,880 Speaker 2: For more sponsors. 723 00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:52,600 Speaker 4: My sister lied about my husband to justify her hate 724 00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:53,120 Speaker 4: for him. 725 00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:56,120 Speaker 2: God, let me hate roll through you. 726 00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:59,760 Speaker 4: I thirty female, recently got married and had a baby. 727 00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:03,440 Speaker 4: My sister twenty four does not like my husband and 728 00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:05,120 Speaker 4: will not tell me why. 729 00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:07,720 Speaker 2: That's so annoying every time. 730 00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:11,400 Speaker 4: By the way, this comes from Stale Waffel fry and 731 00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:13,200 Speaker 4: if you want to submit your own stories, go to 732 00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:16,880 Speaker 4: the r slash Okay storytime subreddit. I'm Carly, I'm Dakota, 733 00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:20,400 Speaker 4: I'm Riley, and we'll try to give our best advice. 734 00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:23,839 Speaker 4: But we haven't experienced most of these situations ourselves, so 735 00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:26,800 Speaker 4: if you have, let us know your take in the comments. 736 00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:30,279 Speaker 4: And Opie says when I first brought him home to 737 00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:34,799 Speaker 4: introduce everyone, she was stand offish, but that's typical for 738 00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:38,480 Speaker 4: her since she doesn't really like people. She has very 739 00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:41,880 Speaker 4: few friends, never brings anyone home to meet the family, 740 00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:45,400 Speaker 4: and has never wanted to spend time with anyone I've 741 00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:48,200 Speaker 4: brought home. Before my husband and I got married, I 742 00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:50,840 Speaker 4: asked her if she had any issues with him. She 743 00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:53,759 Speaker 4: said no, and that he seemed nice. I asked her 744 00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:56,120 Speaker 4: to be my maid of honor and thought all was well. 745 00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:59,840 Speaker 4: Fast forward to last week. My husband went to trop 746 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:02,960 Speaker 4: off something at the family home where my sister lives 747 00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:06,440 Speaker 4: with my parents. He came back looking shaken. When I 748 00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:09,239 Speaker 4: asked what happened, he said he knocked and went into 749 00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:12,560 Speaker 4: the kitchen, where my sister told him my parents weren't home. 750 00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:14,919 Speaker 4: He tried to give her the food I had asked 751 00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:16,839 Speaker 4: him to drop off, but she told him to put 752 00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:19,160 Speaker 4: it in the garage, even though they were standing in 753 00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:21,799 Speaker 4: the kitchen. Okay, As he was picking this stuff back 754 00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:24,560 Speaker 4: up to leave, he tried making small talk about the weather. 755 00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:28,080 Speaker 4: She snapped at him, saying, don't effing talk to me, 756 00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:31,320 Speaker 4: and stormed out of the room. My husband has never 757 00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:34,759 Speaker 4: given me reason to worry about him being inappropriate, but 758 00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:37,480 Speaker 4: that was where my mind first went. Why is that 759 00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:38,719 Speaker 4: where your mind, Bruce went? 760 00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:41,600 Speaker 2: Because it's like, why would they have such an extreme reaction? 761 00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:43,680 Speaker 2: It would have to be something extreme. 762 00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:45,879 Speaker 4: I mean, it sounds like she's just a hater. 763 00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:48,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, like if it is just coming from 764 00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:50,640 Speaker 2: absolutely nowhere, But it's like if you're operating under the 765 00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:53,200 Speaker 2: condition where it's like, well, clearly there's something that happened, 766 00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:55,680 Speaker 2: and it's not just my sister being awful to my 767 00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:56,680 Speaker 2: husband for no reason. 768 00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:59,480 Speaker 4: We lived nearby and he had been gone for less 769 00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:03,080 Speaker 4: than five minutes. I called my sister to ask what happened, 770 00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:05,719 Speaker 4: and she hung up on me. I message her and 771 00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:08,879 Speaker 4: she ignored me until this morning, when I bombarded her 772 00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:12,239 Speaker 4: phone with messages because I wanted to resolve whatever was 773 00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:15,960 Speaker 4: going on. She finally replied and basically says she hates him, 774 00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:19,160 Speaker 4: always has hated him, and her only boundary is that 775 00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:20,279 Speaker 4: he never talks to her. 776 00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:23,000 Speaker 2: Oh, my only boundary is that your husband never acknowledges 777 00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:26,280 Speaker 2: my existence and we never speak. That's a very reasonable 778 00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:29,160 Speaker 2: boundary to have with your brother in law. Great for 779 00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:33,160 Speaker 2: no reason other than like, just at this point, it 780 00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:35,440 Speaker 2: seems like the only thing is that she wants him 781 00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:37,799 Speaker 2: to be her husband and does not know how to 782 00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:38,920 Speaker 2: process that information. 783 00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:44,479 Speaker 4: Yeah, maybe she was just like, Wow, I don't. 784 00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:47,080 Speaker 2: Talk to me. I wish you were my husband, and 785 00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:49,440 Speaker 2: now so I'm gonna make it miserable to be around 786 00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:52,680 Speaker 2: me whenever y'all are near me. I don't know, that's 787 00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:53,480 Speaker 2: just my guess. 788 00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:56,319 Speaker 4: In the seven years that we have been together, they've 789 00:36:56,360 --> 00:37:01,600 Speaker 4: spoken maybe five times, mostly just him greeting her. I 790 00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:04,000 Speaker 4: asked her why, and she said she doesn't need a reason. 791 00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:07,080 Speaker 4: She just doesn't like him and doesn't want him around. 792 00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:10,160 Speaker 4: I asked her point blank if he had ever done 793 00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:12,880 Speaker 4: or said something to make her feel that way, and 794 00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:15,280 Speaker 4: she said he didn't do anything and that she doesn't 795 00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:16,680 Speaker 4: need a reason to feel how she does. 796 00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:18,920 Speaker 2: Wow, she's got a crush. 797 00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:24,279 Speaker 6: On your husband grade aid grade a hater, or she's just. 798 00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:27,799 Speaker 2: Jealous that you're married first, or die, I don't know 799 00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:31,479 Speaker 2: what it is. Whatever it is, professional hater. 800 00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:36,000 Speaker 4: My family is very close. My other sibling, brother twenty nine, 801 00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:39,479 Speaker 4: and I sometimes drop by unannounced to help my mom 802 00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:43,160 Speaker 4: cook dinner or just hang out, and my parents encourage 803 00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:46,200 Speaker 4: this because they like having us around. I told her 804 00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:48,800 Speaker 4: it's going to be weird if he can't even greet 805 00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:51,680 Speaker 4: her when we come over. She said she was sick 806 00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:55,279 Speaker 4: of me having a stranger in her home. I told 807 00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:57,600 Speaker 4: her I didn't realize she felt that way about him, 808 00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:00,000 Speaker 4: and said I wouldn't ask him to drop stuff off 809 00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:03,920 Speaker 4: without me being around anymore. Mind you, She's had seven 810 00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:06,880 Speaker 4: years to get to know him, and I didn't realize 811 00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:10,279 Speaker 4: she still considered him a stranger. She said that wasn't 812 00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:13,640 Speaker 4: the point. She didn't want him talking to her at all, 813 00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:17,160 Speaker 4: and that was the boundary she wanted respected. I told 814 00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:19,720 Speaker 4: her I would tell him and try to keep them apart, 815 00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:22,520 Speaker 4: but that would mean her time with my son, her 816 00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:26,800 Speaker 4: nephew six months old, would be affected because my husband 817 00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:29,680 Speaker 4: will not be comfortable with our son being around someone 818 00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:33,120 Speaker 4: who hates him. And also, by her own words, a stranger. 819 00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:36,319 Speaker 2: Apparently literally a complete stranger that you've known for seven years. 820 00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:39,719 Speaker 4: Frankly, I'm now uncomfortable with it too, because I don't 821 00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:42,359 Speaker 4: know what ideas she might try to put in his head. 822 00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:45,279 Speaker 4: It's also going to affect my parents' time with him, 823 00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:48,399 Speaker 4: because if my husband can't bring him around, it's going 824 00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:51,360 Speaker 4: to limit how often he goes over there. I didn't 825 00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:54,400 Speaker 4: tell her this, but it hurt hurts my heart because 826 00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:58,200 Speaker 4: they absolutely adore my son. He's their first and only 827 00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:01,799 Speaker 4: grandchild so far, and they love spending time with him, 828 00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:04,759 Speaker 4: always telling us to bring him over. She said, I 829 00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:08,400 Speaker 4: was playing the victim, painting her as a witch and 830 00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:12,480 Speaker 4: trying to trample the only boundary she has set for herself. 831 00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:15,600 Speaker 4: I'm currently thoroughly lost and trying to figure out the 832 00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:18,480 Speaker 4: best way forward. Am I the a hole here? And 833 00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:21,480 Speaker 4: is there any way I can fix this situation? We 834 00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:22,279 Speaker 4: have an edit. 835 00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:25,200 Speaker 2: It's so crazy that she's trying to act like it's like, well, 836 00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:29,080 Speaker 2: my perfectly reasonable boundary is just being trampled over. It's like, 837 00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:31,600 Speaker 2: if that's your boundary you should expect to not have 838 00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:33,600 Speaker 2: a relationship with your sister. 839 00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:36,560 Speaker 4: Then my reasonable boundary that you never talk to me, 840 00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:40,480 Speaker 4: never speak say hi, don't look at me, don't come 841 00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:41,240 Speaker 4: to my house. 842 00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:43,160 Speaker 2: Don't acknowledge me, don't be in the same room as me. 843 00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:46,640 Speaker 2: I don't want to have to see you anywhere. And yeah, 844 00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:50,799 Speaker 2: if honestly, you're being selfish for not accepting that as my. 845 00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:54,800 Speaker 4: Factory after seven years, Like I know that Opie knows 846 00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:57,520 Speaker 4: that she was never really like a fan of her husband, 847 00:39:57,560 --> 00:39:59,960 Speaker 4: but like seven years later and you haven't been, like, 848 00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:01,400 Speaker 4: what the heck before? 849 00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:04,440 Speaker 2: Now that's a long seed did jealousy? 850 00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:07,719 Speaker 4: You've got an edit. I never expected so many replies 851 00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:11,000 Speaker 4: in such a short time, but I appreciate the responses 852 00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:15,240 Speaker 4: to clarify a few things and answer some questions. I've 853 00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:18,480 Speaker 4: mentioned it to my parents and they're aware of what happened. 854 00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:21,799 Speaker 4: My mom said she'll sit my sister down for a conversation, 855 00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:25,640 Speaker 4: but from what I hear, my sister keeps making excuses 856 00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:30,480 Speaker 4: to avoid it. She's busy, tired, wanting more time, et cetera. 857 00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:33,160 Speaker 4: My dad says not to worry about it and it 858 00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:37,040 Speaker 4: will blow over. My dad had a heart attack recently 859 00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:40,080 Speaker 4: and is currently recovering, so I don't want to push 860 00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:42,640 Speaker 4: it with them right now and stress him out. I 861 00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:45,320 Speaker 4: left it at that with him and changed the subject. 862 00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:49,000 Speaker 4: My partner is amazing and has never given me reason 863 00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:52,720 Speaker 4: to worry about him being around any females. I admit 864 00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:55,640 Speaker 4: I was worried he had done something when he told 865 00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:58,200 Speaker 4: me how she responded, because I can't wrap my brain 866 00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:01,040 Speaker 4: around why she would just blow up over small talk. 867 00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:04,239 Speaker 4: But she herself said he didn't do anything. I know 868 00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:07,760 Speaker 4: my brother has had partners, but he hasn't brought any home. 869 00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:11,200 Speaker 4: I myself didn't bring anyone home until I was serious 870 00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:13,759 Speaker 4: about them and thought there might be a future. I 871 00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:17,400 Speaker 4: brought home a grand total of two guys, my current 872 00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:20,840 Speaker 4: partner and my ex from college. Regarding her mental health, 873 00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:24,040 Speaker 4: she has always had a bad temper and has snapped 874 00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:27,000 Speaker 4: at me many times with no apology, even when she 875 00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:30,560 Speaker 4: realized later she was wrong, like when she accused me 876 00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:33,960 Speaker 4: of taking her shoes, which she had actually just left 877 00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:37,400 Speaker 4: in her vehicle. There has never been anything on this 878 00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:40,840 Speaker 4: level before. We have some comments, but you sounded like 879 00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:41,839 Speaker 4: you had something. 880 00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:44,640 Speaker 2: Taking your shoes. You're just looking for a fight. You 881 00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:45,760 Speaker 2: took my shoes. 882 00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:47,719 Speaker 4: I know you took my shoes, So that's like such 883 00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:49,960 Speaker 4: a sibling thing for like sisters to just be like, 884 00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:52,759 Speaker 4: I'm righting your shoes. Yeah, I mean they fight about 885 00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:53,440 Speaker 4: it too, but like. 886 00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:57,719 Speaker 2: I guess that makes sense. I don't know. I don't 887 00:41:57,760 --> 00:41:58,839 Speaker 2: have any siblings. 888 00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:01,680 Speaker 4: The two only children have been getting all the simple 889 00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:03,280 Speaker 4: story siblings stories. 890 00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:08,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sticking to my bang bangs. She's just deeply 891 00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:12,879 Speaker 2: upset that you are making your life with this other 892 00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:16,880 Speaker 2: person and cannot handle it, and so the way that 893 00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:21,240 Speaker 2: she's dealing with it is by making it everyone else's problem. 894 00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:24,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, I still can't tell. It's like it's gotta be 895 00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:28,880 Speaker 4: she's either like secretly like crushing on husband or she 896 00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:31,480 Speaker 4: just like really wants a relationship and really wants to 897 00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:34,520 Speaker 4: be like at that point. Yeah. Top comments this is 898 00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:37,359 Speaker 4: very weird. You should speak with your mom and other 899 00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:41,200 Speaker 4: brother see if sister has disclosed reasoning or if she 900 00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:45,040 Speaker 4: has otherwise been paranoid. Okay, introduction says it reads like 901 00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:47,880 Speaker 4: jealousy to me. To be honest, maybe she feels like 902 00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:51,080 Speaker 4: he's taking her away from the family, but if he's 903 00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:53,800 Speaker 4: done nothing to her and she won't give a reason. 904 00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:56,880 Speaker 4: If I were Opie, I'd go low or no contact 905 00:42:56,880 --> 00:43:01,120 Speaker 4: with the sister family events, baby showers, parties, etc. Everyone 906 00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:04,120 Speaker 4: would be invited except for her. You don't want to 907 00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:07,960 Speaker 4: talk to my husband and we can't resolve this. Fine, Lol, 908 00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:11,520 Speaker 4: you're on your own. I don't entertain childness like this. 909 00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:14,680 Speaker 4: Another commentary says, can someone make a bot for what 910 00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:17,520 Speaker 4: a boundary really is? She can make a boundary that 911 00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:19,440 Speaker 4: she doesn't have to talk to him, or that she 912 00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:22,480 Speaker 4: will leave when he comes over, but not that he 913 00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:25,760 Speaker 4: can't talk to her. And since it's not her house, 914 00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:28,160 Speaker 4: I don't think she can make a boundary that he 915 00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:31,600 Speaker 4: can't come over either. A boundary is an action you take, 916 00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:34,960 Speaker 4: not an action you impose on others. For example, a 917 00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:38,400 Speaker 4: healthy expression of a boundary healthy in quotes because she 918 00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:41,360 Speaker 4: needs help is if he comes over, I will go 919 00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:43,680 Speaker 4: to my room. If he talks to me, I will 920 00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:47,040 Speaker 4: leave and go for a walk. Vinegar Girl says, thank you. 921 00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:51,160 Speaker 4: This isn't a boundary but a control tactic. She's trying 922 00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:55,640 Speaker 4: to undermine OPI's relationship and cast aspersions unless there's something 923 00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:58,799 Speaker 4: Opie isn't telling us. Not the a whole sister is 924 00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:02,920 Speaker 4: behaving really weirdly and comes across as bitter and divisive. 925 00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:06,360 Speaker 4: We have an update, but yeah, those comments were cooking. 926 00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:08,160 Speaker 2: Cook So yeah, I think you need to stand on 927 00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:11,520 Speaker 2: business and go you know what's sister, that's not gonna happen. Yeah, 928 00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:15,200 Speaker 2: my husband are parents, their son in law. He's going 929 00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:17,239 Speaker 2: to be around. He's the father of my child, so 930 00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:19,400 Speaker 2: he's going to be around. And if you have a 931 00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:23,760 Speaker 2: problem with him only because what you just don't like him, yeah, 932 00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:24,840 Speaker 2: that's on you. 933 00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:29,040 Speaker 4: To handle the whole like not inviting her to party things. 934 00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:30,920 Speaker 4: I feel like you can still invite her, but you 935 00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:33,000 Speaker 4: can just be like and you can come, but my 936 00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:36,160 Speaker 4: husband's going to be there. Yeah, and he's not leaving. 937 00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:39,640 Speaker 4: So pick we have an update to clarify. The only 938 00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:43,040 Speaker 4: reason I considered my husband might have done something is 939 00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:47,760 Speaker 4: because I'm in healthcare in an environment where all sides 940 00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:50,680 Speaker 4: of all stories have to be looked at. My first 941 00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:53,360 Speaker 4: instinct was that she was being out of line for 942 00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:56,440 Speaker 4: no reason, but I always try to look at both sides. 943 00:44:56,560 --> 00:44:59,560 Speaker 4: Both he and she said that he didn't do anything, 944 00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:02,440 Speaker 4: and I I'm going with that. Growing up, my brother 945 00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:05,640 Speaker 4: was the golden child. Dad only wanted a son and 946 00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:09,240 Speaker 4: kept talking about his son and his legacy. My sister 947 00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:12,880 Speaker 4: was my mom's favorite. Something she would always say to us, 948 00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:16,560 Speaker 4: that's great. I was the oddball and my siblings and 949 00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:20,680 Speaker 4: I weren't really close until everyone was past fourteen or fifteen. 950 00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:24,760 Speaker 4: Then we started finding shared interests. My dad has evolved 951 00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:27,960 Speaker 4: over the years and now makes all his children a priority. 952 00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:32,000 Speaker 2: That's really sad. Well, he at least he evolved. 953 00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:35,640 Speaker 4: At fourteen or fifteen he got three kids, dude. Evolution 954 00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:38,279 Speaker 4: shouldn't be having more kids if you're not happy of 955 00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:39,080 Speaker 4: they're girls. 956 00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:41,920 Speaker 2: The evolution of being a little bit. 957 00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:46,440 Speaker 4: Better, and my relationship with my mom has also improved significantly. 958 00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:49,760 Speaker 4: My husband was beyond happy to marry into my family. 959 00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:52,520 Speaker 4: My parents treat him like their own son, and he 960 00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:55,319 Speaker 4: has said many times they feel more like family than 961 00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:58,400 Speaker 4: his own. He has three brothers, but he's the youngest 962 00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:01,719 Speaker 4: by ten years and felt left out a lot. He 963 00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:04,240 Speaker 4: once told me he was excited to have a sister 964 00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:06,600 Speaker 4: in law, as he has none of his own and 965 00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:10,320 Speaker 4: isn't close with his brothers. This whole thing has him down, 966 00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:13,359 Speaker 4: and I feel horrible for even considering that he had 967 00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:16,560 Speaker 4: done anything inappropriate when I knew deep down he hadn't. 968 00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:19,000 Speaker 4: My sister told my dad she will sit down with 969 00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:21,520 Speaker 4: us to talk about it. This afternoon when I get 970 00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:23,800 Speaker 4: off work. So I'm waiting to hear what she says 971 00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:27,319 Speaker 4: in his presence. We'll update again after we talk. We 972 00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:30,320 Speaker 4: have the update after they've talked, let's hear that talk. 973 00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:34,480 Speaker 4: Spoke with my dad and sister a couple of hours ago. 974 00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:37,879 Speaker 4: My dad asked both of us what happened. I gave 975 00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:40,920 Speaker 4: my side, and she gave her side. My dad asked 976 00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:43,759 Speaker 4: her if she was sure she had no reason to 977 00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:47,080 Speaker 4: act that way. She said she had a reason, but 978 00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:48,040 Speaker 4: she didn't. 979 00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:50,120 Speaker 2: Want to say oh no no. 980 00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:54,520 Speaker 4: My dad said, well, we won't force anyone to share anything. 981 00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:58,080 Speaker 4: She then said, okay, she'll tell us why. She said, 982 00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:01,720 Speaker 4: when she first met my husband, he asked her about 983 00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:04,000 Speaker 4: a guy, let's call him mister. 984 00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:08,000 Speaker 5: L mister loser, she said. 985 00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:11,360 Speaker 4: He asked her how mister Ell was doing. Then she 986 00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:14,920 Speaker 4: turns to me and goes, yeah, I know. You read 987 00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:17,680 Speaker 4: my diary, the guy I had a crush on and 988 00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:20,719 Speaker 4: wrote all my private thoughts about the first day your 989 00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:23,719 Speaker 4: husband met me. He asked me about him, and that 990 00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:26,680 Speaker 4: told me everything I needed to know about him. She 991 00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:28,440 Speaker 4: is old in a grust. 992 00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:32,480 Speaker 2: Wait a minute, so, so your sister read your diary, 993 00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:36,439 Speaker 2: talked about it with her husband, and you're now never 994 00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:38,239 Speaker 2: talking to him again, and. 995 00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:40,120 Speaker 4: We don't even know for sure that she read the diary. 996 00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:41,760 Speaker 2: Girl, are you silly? 997 00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:42,240 Speaker 5: Oh? 998 00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:45,600 Speaker 4: And yeah, here for some more information. I'm still flabbergasted 999 00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:47,840 Speaker 4: that she would say that, because first of all, I 1000 00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:50,880 Speaker 4: didn't even know she had a diary, and even if 1001 00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:53,720 Speaker 4: I did, I would never have read it. So she didn't. 1002 00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:56,320 Speaker 4: The husband just brought up this dude that happened to 1003 00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:58,000 Speaker 4: be in her diary, and she was like, so you 1004 00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:00,680 Speaker 4: must have been talking about me and read my diary. 1005 00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:04,759 Speaker 4: Must have read my diary, so we it's crazyletly cut 1006 00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:06,400 Speaker 4: out the husband when. 1007 00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:09,560 Speaker 2: You are always looking for a confrontation. That's the kind 1008 00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:11,120 Speaker 2: of stuff you will see. 1009 00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:15,680 Speaker 4: She's been holding that grudge for seven years. That's insane. 1010 00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:16,840 Speaker 2: That is insane. 1011 00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:19,600 Speaker 4: I had a journal once and my cousin read it 1012 00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:23,279 Speaker 4: and teased me mercilessly. I would never wish that upon 1013 00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:26,239 Speaker 4: someone else. I was surprised at first. Then I got 1014 00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:29,880 Speaker 4: pissed because I realized she was making stuff up. She 1015 00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:33,440 Speaker 4: met my husband six years ago, a year after we 1016 00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:36,760 Speaker 4: had been dating. Two years ago, my sister went abroad 1017 00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:39,399 Speaker 4: for a year for college. A friend of mine who 1018 00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:42,920 Speaker 4: started school late and was in the same program as 1019 00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:45,959 Speaker 4: her was on the same trip. I recognized the name 1020 00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:49,640 Speaker 4: as the hot professor my friend came back gushing about. 1021 00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:52,560 Speaker 4: I asked my sister if that was the professor from 1022 00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:55,719 Speaker 4: the university, and she went, yes, you see, is that 1023 00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:58,680 Speaker 4: your confession? I asked her how my husband asked her 1024 00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:04,040 Speaker 4: six years ago about someone she only met two years Agooo, 1025 00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:06,160 Speaker 4: math is not. 1026 00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:07,160 Speaker 2: Adding got you? 1027 00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:10,600 Speaker 4: Got you there? You stop talking for a good minute, 1028 00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:13,920 Speaker 4: like her brain was buffering. Then she snapped at me 1029 00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:16,080 Speaker 4: that I just didn't understand how hard it was for 1030 00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:18,440 Speaker 4: her to keep having a stranger in her home and 1031 00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:19,319 Speaker 4: stormed off. 1032 00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:21,560 Speaker 2: Ah, we've moved the goalposts again. 1033 00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:25,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, you're just mad that your reasoning was wrong. Still 1034 00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:27,920 Speaker 4: didn't have a valid reason, And now she's like, well, 1035 00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:30,080 Speaker 4: and it's something else that I lied. 1036 00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:33,080 Speaker 2: Now you're just mad. No one cares enough to read 1037 00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:35,319 Speaker 2: your diary, but I. 1038 00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:38,040 Speaker 4: Really wanted you to read my diary. Yeah, my son 1039 00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:40,560 Speaker 4: is going to grow up without getting to know his 1040 00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:44,160 Speaker 4: only aunt. But I cannot fix the situation that she 1041 00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:47,840 Speaker 4: is making up. Growing up, I was not an awesome sibling. 1042 00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:51,560 Speaker 4: There were petty arguments, stupid fights over stuff, like the 1043 00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:54,440 Speaker 4: TV remote, what to have for dinner, et cetera, which 1044 00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:56,680 Speaker 4: I've heard are fairly common sibling. 1045 00:49:56,440 --> 00:49:58,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, fights, that seems pretty normal. 1046 00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:01,200 Speaker 4: But I thought we have I had a better relationship 1047 00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:04,640 Speaker 4: the last few years. We were setting each other memes, 1048 00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:09,239 Speaker 4: cracking jokes, took a few trips together, had dinners and lunches. 1049 00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:12,080 Speaker 4: She was my maid of honor at my wedding and 1050 00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:15,120 Speaker 4: visited me in the hospital every day I was there 1051 00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:18,880 Speaker 4: a emergency c section with complications. I was there for 1052 00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:21,879 Speaker 4: a whole week, and checked on me every day postpartum 1053 00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:24,759 Speaker 4: for the first couple months. I'm still hoping this can 1054 00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:28,719 Speaker 4: somehow be fixed, but if she's making up lies and 1055 00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:31,520 Speaker 4: unwilling to communicate, I don't see what I can do. 1056 00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:33,560 Speaker 4: And we have a quick edit. I think I asked 1057 00:50:33,560 --> 00:50:36,400 Speaker 4: my husband about it. He doesn't remember asking her anything 1058 00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:39,480 Speaker 4: about any guy. He doesn't recognize that name at all. 1059 00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:43,360 Speaker 4: My husband and sister never dated. Since so many people 1060 00:50:43,360 --> 00:50:46,319 Speaker 4: are asking, and yes, I know for a fact the 1061 00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:49,799 Speaker 4: areas he went to school and work are far from 1062 00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:52,360 Speaker 4: where we are and the way we were raised, we 1063 00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:55,320 Speaker 4: didn't go out much. Yes, my husband is a different 1064 00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:57,480 Speaker 4: race from us, but I would like to think my 1065 00:50:57,600 --> 00:51:00,759 Speaker 4: sister isn't discriminatory. We are Asian and he's black. We 1066 00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:02,799 Speaker 4: have another edit, but anything else before we. 1067 00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:05,680 Speaker 2: Got a good hope to have for your sister. 1068 00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:07,280 Speaker 4: I would certainly hope. 1069 00:51:07,560 --> 00:51:08,200 Speaker 2: I would hope. 1070 00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:11,560 Speaker 4: So she's just making stuff up edit too. I see 1071 00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:14,279 Speaker 4: a lot of people calling her discriminatory. I didn't think 1072 00:51:14,320 --> 00:51:16,480 Speaker 4: it was that because my ex was Asian and she 1073 00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:19,080 Speaker 4: didn't seem to like him either. But we were only 1074 00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:22,560 Speaker 4: together six more months after I introduced him to the family, 1075 00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:25,919 Speaker 4: so they didn't interact much. My family at its core 1076 00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:29,320 Speaker 4: is Asian, starting with my grandparents, but over the years 1077 00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:31,600 Speaker 4: there has been a lot of mixing. She gets along 1078 00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:34,399 Speaker 4: with my cousin who's half black and half Asian, and 1079 00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:37,799 Speaker 4: his wife who was black. Regarding the mental health, I've 1080 00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:40,799 Speaker 4: brought up her anger issues in the past, and she 1081 00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:44,319 Speaker 4: doesn't want to try any type of therapy or evaluation. 1082 00:51:44,719 --> 00:51:47,560 Speaker 4: She's a grown woman and as long as she isn't 1083 00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:50,920 Speaker 4: a direct threat to herself or exhibiting violence to others, 1084 00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:54,360 Speaker 4: it is completely her choice. Some people are mad that 1085 00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:57,560 Speaker 4: I used the word female. Odd thing to be mad about. 1086 00:51:57,840 --> 00:52:00,279 Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, people get mad whenever you say female. That 1087 00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:03,719 Speaker 8: was the whole first year I was here with Sophia. 1088 00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:06,640 Speaker 4: She was like, instead of what, instead of women? 1089 00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:08,759 Speaker 8: Like my female friends. I would say that. She's like, no, 1090 00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:11,880 Speaker 8: it's a woman, my woman, woman woman. 1091 00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:14,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, would they get mad if you said girls? 1092 00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:15,879 Speaker 5: It might like. 1093 00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:17,200 Speaker 2: No, no, just like female. 1094 00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:21,439 Speaker 8: It's more like object I guess we call him male too. Yeah, 1095 00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:25,080 Speaker 8: my male friends. I don't objectify women. I support them. 1096 00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:27,720 Speaker 4: Go Riley a hard a thing to be mad about. 1097 00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:30,680 Speaker 4: I use the words male and female on a regular basis, 1098 00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:32,680 Speaker 4: never known it to be an issue. I have a 1099 00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:36,400 Speaker 4: third update to everyone, saying she needs therapy. I have 1100 00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:39,200 Speaker 4: suggested it to her in the past because she has 1101 00:52:39,239 --> 00:52:42,520 Speaker 4: some anger issues, but she always says no. And you 1102 00:52:42,600 --> 00:52:45,560 Speaker 4: cannot force someone to go to therapy. It has to 1103 00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:48,280 Speaker 4: be their own choice. I spoke to my dad again 1104 00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:51,240 Speaker 4: this morning. He said he'd tried talking to her again, 1105 00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:54,080 Speaker 4: but she's avoiding the topic. I told him not to 1106 00:52:54,120 --> 00:52:56,520 Speaker 4: worry about it, and that he and my mom are 1107 00:52:56,640 --> 00:52:59,440 Speaker 4: welcome at my place, but I wouldn't be coming around 1108 00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:02,440 Speaker 4: as often to a place where I have safety concerns 1109 00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:06,040 Speaker 4: for my son and husband. Dad says he understands my 1110 00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:09,600 Speaker 4: mom is a bit pissed about the whole situation mostly 1111 00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:12,480 Speaker 4: about what my sister did, and back to my stance. 1112 00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:15,000 Speaker 4: My mom told me she asked her how she would 1113 00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:17,759 Speaker 4: feel if someone was treating my brother the same way 1114 00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:20,839 Speaker 4: she was treating my husband, and she threw a fit, 1115 00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:24,399 Speaker 4: saying my mom was seriously trying to guilt her, which 1116 00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:26,880 Speaker 4: I take to mean she knows she was out of line, 1117 00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:29,440 Speaker 4: because why would you feel guilty if you hadn't done 1118 00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:31,920 Speaker 4: anything wrong? For those saying, I need to tell my 1119 00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:34,760 Speaker 4: parents to punt her out, that is not an option. 1120 00:53:35,080 --> 00:53:37,840 Speaker 4: She just finished college and is looking for a job. 1121 00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:40,839 Speaker 4: She can't afford to move out even if she wanted to. 1122 00:53:41,120 --> 00:53:43,680 Speaker 4: We might be at odds now, but keep in mind 1123 00:53:43,880 --> 00:53:47,120 Speaker 4: this is my only sister. We were not the closest, 1124 00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:49,480 Speaker 4: but usually we're there for each other in the past. 1125 00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:52,359 Speaker 4: Mad As I might be at her, I don't want 1126 00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:56,160 Speaker 4: to see her homeless. We have more, But what's she thinking? 1127 00:53:57,239 --> 00:53:59,840 Speaker 2: It's time for your sister to know what it's like 1128 00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:03,879 Speaker 2: to be called out and not bent for not bent 1129 00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:07,600 Speaker 2: towards stand firm, stand your ground. 1130 00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:11,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, I feel like she's slowly realizing too, that no 1131 00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:12,919 Speaker 4: one is on her side with this. 1132 00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:15,480 Speaker 2: Truly. I'm just glad she didn't say anything fake. That 1133 00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:16,440 Speaker 2: was like way worse. 1134 00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:19,319 Speaker 4: Yeah, that'd be crazy. Let's see to the people mad 1135 00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:22,840 Speaker 4: about the whole race thing. I have twenty seven aunts 1136 00:54:22,840 --> 00:54:26,920 Speaker 4: and uncles. Yes, my grandparents were busy. My family is 1137 00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:31,799 Speaker 4: well and truly mixed. There's black, white, Hispanic, more Asian Filipino. 1138 00:54:32,120 --> 00:54:34,800 Speaker 4: If you can think of the race, it's probably mixed 1139 00:54:34,840 --> 00:54:37,440 Speaker 4: into my family. That's why I said, I didn't think 1140 00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:40,200 Speaker 4: it was because of his race. She seems to hate 1141 00:54:40,239 --> 00:54:41,520 Speaker 4: most people equally. 1142 00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:42,239 Speaker 2: She told me. 1143 00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:44,600 Speaker 4: She told him that he's the only one on her 1144 00:54:44,680 --> 00:54:47,719 Speaker 4: side and everyone is against her. However, he has made 1145 00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:50,279 Speaker 4: it clear that he is not taking sides. He is 1146 00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:53,200 Speaker 4: not going to change how he interacts with anyone and 1147 00:54:53,560 --> 00:54:56,759 Speaker 4: is speaking to both of us. That's completely fine by me. 1148 00:54:57,200 --> 00:55:00,400 Speaker 4: He's her brother, and isolation probably won't help her in 1149 00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:00,919 Speaker 4: any way. 1150 00:55:01,160 --> 00:55:02,120 Speaker 2: Fair enough, and. 1151 00:55:02,040 --> 00:55:06,239 Speaker 4: We've got some of Opie's comments. A commenter just heard 1152 00:55:06,239 --> 00:55:09,680 Speaker 4: your story on YouTube with fake updates that your parents 1153 00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:12,560 Speaker 4: are taking her side and you are going there without 1154 00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:15,279 Speaker 4: your husband because they pressure you just in case it 1155 00:55:15,320 --> 00:55:19,640 Speaker 4: goes anywhere near this. Don't stand by your husband. You 1156 00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:23,360 Speaker 4: do not need toxic family members. She is your only sister, 1157 00:55:23,600 --> 00:55:26,800 Speaker 4: but many people live their lives without ever having a sister. 1158 00:55:27,200 --> 00:55:30,880 Speaker 4: Your nuclear family is your husband and child. Now, to 1159 00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:35,080 Speaker 4: follow your thought process, you only have one husband, and 1160 00:55:35,200 --> 00:55:38,839 Speaker 4: by the way, she's probably into your husband. As someone 1161 00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:40,160 Speaker 4: said it finally. 1162 00:55:40,120 --> 00:55:44,399 Speaker 2: Yes, thank you. I've been saying it the whole time, and. 1163 00:55:44,560 --> 00:55:49,560 Speaker 4: Opie responds, that's hilarious. The actual situation is not near that. No, 1164 00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:53,200 Speaker 4: my parents are trying to avoid taking sides, but both 1165 00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:57,080 Speaker 4: agree she's not making any sense and have acknowledged she 1166 00:55:57,280 --> 00:56:00,040 Speaker 4: has anger issues, but without her being willing to go 1167 00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:02,880 Speaker 4: to therapy, they can't force her. We will be staying 1168 00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:05,880 Speaker 4: far away from her, but all other family is welcome 1169 00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:08,160 Speaker 4: at my place. And that's the end of that story. 1170 00:56:08,840 --> 00:56:10,560 Speaker 2: Hey, it's Sam. We're gonna get back to the stories. 1171 00:56:10,560 --> 00:56:13,160 Speaker 2: But here's three minutes of bads from our sponsors. My 1172 00:56:13,320 --> 00:56:16,360 Speaker 2: own family keeps treating me like an outsider, so I 1173 00:56:16,520 --> 00:56:20,919 Speaker 2: stopped trying. Oh yeah, first thing I want to say 1174 00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:22,960 Speaker 2: is my parents have always been there for me and 1175 00:56:23,120 --> 00:56:26,399 Speaker 2: always willing to help if I need it. But there 1176 00:56:26,440 --> 00:56:28,560 Speaker 2: have been a few things, mainly from my mom, that 1177 00:56:28,600 --> 00:56:31,360 Speaker 2: have made me feel like an outsider in my own 1178 00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:34,480 Speaker 2: family for years. Some things started when I was in 1179 00:56:34,560 --> 00:56:37,160 Speaker 2: high school, maybe even younger, so I want to start 1180 00:56:37,200 --> 00:56:39,000 Speaker 2: with a few of those before I get into the 1181 00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:41,640 Speaker 2: events of yesterday. By the way, this comes from user 1182 00:56:41,640 --> 00:56:43,600 Speaker 2: aware Quail eighty nine to fifty one, and if you 1183 00:56:43,600 --> 00:56:45,239 Speaker 2: want to submit your own stories, go to the r 1184 00:56:45,320 --> 00:56:48,839 Speaker 2: slash Okay storytime separate it. I'm Dakota, I'm Carly, and 1185 00:56:48,880 --> 00:56:51,880 Speaker 2: we give good advice goofiy, but at least we try. 1186 00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:56,160 Speaker 2: We're not always perfect. We haven't experienced every story that 1187 00:56:56,239 --> 00:56:59,200 Speaker 2: we read. But if you've gone through what we're reading, 1188 00:56:59,520 --> 00:57:03,440 Speaker 2: comet what you would have done. In the comments, Opie says, 1189 00:57:03,560 --> 00:57:05,879 Speaker 2: when I was younger, one of my older cousins brought 1190 00:57:05,880 --> 00:57:09,240 Speaker 2: a girlfriend to family Christmas. I spent some time talking 1191 00:57:09,280 --> 00:57:11,160 Speaker 2: with her. As soon as we got into the car 1192 00:57:11,160 --> 00:57:14,640 Speaker 2: to leave, my mom asked, you didn't bore the girlfriend 1193 00:57:14,760 --> 00:57:17,680 Speaker 2: too bad, did you. Then there was another time I 1194 00:57:17,720 --> 00:57:19,760 Speaker 2: was at home while my mom was on the phone 1195 00:57:19,880 --> 00:57:22,240 Speaker 2: with one of her friends and ended up talking about 1196 00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:24,840 Speaker 2: my grandpa, who passed away when I was six. She 1197 00:57:24,920 --> 00:57:27,760 Speaker 2: stated he was very disappointed when I turned out to 1198 00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:30,120 Speaker 2: be a girl. I have three older sisters and my 1199 00:57:30,240 --> 00:57:33,720 Speaker 2: dad had one other living brother. She said this while 1200 00:57:33,720 --> 00:57:36,640 Speaker 2: I was just feet away from her. At what I'm sorry, 1201 00:57:36,640 --> 00:57:38,200 Speaker 2: but at what age is this happening? 1202 00:57:38,640 --> 00:57:39,400 Speaker 4: How old is Ope? 1203 00:57:39,600 --> 00:57:41,280 Speaker 2: I'm not gonna I don't know if we have. 1204 00:57:41,320 --> 00:57:43,080 Speaker 4: That either way that could have been. 1205 00:57:43,240 --> 00:57:45,400 Speaker 2: Those are two I'm not gonna lie. Those are two 1206 00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:49,920 Speaker 2: very small things. Your mom called you boring, and she 1207 00:57:50,080 --> 00:57:52,320 Speaker 2: was like Grandpa wanted a boy instead of a girl. 1208 00:57:52,680 --> 00:57:53,680 Speaker 2: Those are things that. 1209 00:57:54,120 --> 00:57:56,400 Speaker 4: Depending on how young you are, you can take them wrong. 1210 00:57:56,440 --> 00:57:56,640 Speaker 5: Though. 1211 00:57:57,040 --> 00:58:00,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, years later, when I started dating my son's father 1212 00:58:00,800 --> 00:58:03,640 Speaker 2: and current partner, when I told her who I was dating, 1213 00:58:03,680 --> 00:58:06,800 Speaker 2: she said, isn't that family a little trashy? Funny? How 1214 00:58:06,800 --> 00:58:09,360 Speaker 2: I feel more accepted there than in my own family. 1215 00:58:09,800 --> 00:58:11,920 Speaker 2: I can't remember exactly when I found out about this 1216 00:58:11,960 --> 00:58:14,800 Speaker 2: first group, but it was around the time I had 1217 00:58:14,800 --> 00:58:18,720 Speaker 2: my son. For more contact on family dynamics. My family's Catholic, 1218 00:58:18,760 --> 00:58:22,200 Speaker 2: and I had my son before marriage. I was in 1219 00:58:22,240 --> 00:58:24,400 Speaker 2: the kitchen with my mom with her phone beside me 1220 00:58:24,440 --> 00:58:27,680 Speaker 2: when a message came through. The alert said mom and sisters, 1221 00:58:28,080 --> 00:58:31,040 Speaker 2: but guests who didn't get the message me, Oh, no, 1222 00:58:31,120 --> 00:58:35,200 Speaker 2: you're excluded from the family group chat. That's the first 1223 00:58:35,200 --> 00:58:37,880 Speaker 2: thing that's really upsetting that I've read so far in 1224 00:58:37,920 --> 00:58:41,560 Speaker 2: my opinion. When I asked about it, my mom just said, 1225 00:58:41,640 --> 00:58:43,000 Speaker 2: I don't think you want to be a part of it. 1226 00:58:43,040 --> 00:58:46,040 Speaker 2: They send a lot of messages or something similar, but 1227 00:58:46,240 --> 00:58:48,840 Speaker 2: something about it just hurt. There was also no effort 1228 00:58:48,920 --> 00:58:51,640 Speaker 2: to add me to it. Since then, I have been 1229 00:58:51,680 --> 00:58:54,600 Speaker 2: added to multiple family groups by other family members. My 1230 00:58:54,680 --> 00:58:56,920 Speaker 2: cousin on my dad's side added all of our cousins 1231 00:58:57,000 --> 00:58:59,040 Speaker 2: and my sisters to a message letting us know he 1232 00:58:59,080 --> 00:59:01,760 Speaker 2: was going to be in town. I wasn't included. As 1233 00:59:01,800 --> 00:59:05,000 Speaker 2: an afterthought, my aunt messaged all of us about a 1234 00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:07,640 Speaker 2: family reunion that would be happening this year. I didn't 1235 00:59:07,640 --> 00:59:09,880 Speaker 2: need to be added. Later, my great aunt made a 1236 00:59:09,920 --> 00:59:12,520 Speaker 2: Facebook group for our extended family and I was added 1237 00:59:12,600 --> 00:59:15,160 Speaker 2: right away. Then there's the fact that I have lived 1238 00:59:15,200 --> 00:59:17,720 Speaker 2: thirty minutes away from my parents for the past seven years, 1239 00:59:17,720 --> 00:59:20,160 Speaker 2: while all my other sisters lived within ten minutes. Now. 1240 00:59:20,640 --> 00:59:23,160 Speaker 2: The only times they have visited was to help move, 1241 00:59:23,520 --> 00:59:25,960 Speaker 2: to help clean up after a tornado, and for some 1242 00:59:26,000 --> 00:59:29,440 Speaker 2: of my son's events. But my significant other's mom, despite 1243 00:59:29,480 --> 00:59:32,280 Speaker 2: not having much, visits almost once a month and lives 1244 00:59:32,280 --> 00:59:35,240 Speaker 2: in the same town as my parents. His dad passed 1245 00:59:35,240 --> 00:59:38,400 Speaker 2: away before my son was born. Some of his siblings 1246 00:59:38,560 --> 00:59:41,520 Speaker 2: ten altogether, have also made it over to see us. 1247 00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:44,400 Speaker 2: Out of my siblings, only my brother in law called 1248 00:59:44,800 --> 00:59:46,480 Speaker 2: to have me meet him in the park with my 1249 00:59:46,600 --> 00:59:49,320 Speaker 2: nephews when he was passing through town coming back from 1250 00:59:49,360 --> 00:59:52,440 Speaker 2: one of his farms, despite me knowing there were times 1251 00:59:52,440 --> 00:59:55,840 Speaker 2: they were in town. One sister's kids play on a 1252 00:59:55,840 --> 00:59:58,120 Speaker 2: baseball team based out of the town I live in. 1253 00:59:58,760 --> 01:00:01,480 Speaker 2: My coworker's son is also on the team, and my 1254 01:00:01,560 --> 01:00:05,120 Speaker 2: other sisters in law live here. Despite all that, if 1255 01:00:05,160 --> 01:00:07,360 Speaker 2: I know my nephews have an event nearby, I try 1256 01:00:07,360 --> 01:00:10,560 Speaker 2: to make it if I'm not working. So that's kind 1257 01:00:10,560 --> 01:00:13,000 Speaker 2: of like the set. The stage is set. I think 1258 01:00:13,560 --> 01:00:17,040 Speaker 2: we just have to accept that our mom is kind 1259 01:00:17,080 --> 01:00:20,800 Speaker 2: of absent. Mom doesn't care. Yeah, and the more that 1260 01:00:20,840 --> 01:00:23,480 Speaker 2: we fight and hunger for that, the more we're just 1261 01:00:23,520 --> 01:00:24,080 Speaker 2: gonna hurt. 1262 01:00:24,440 --> 01:00:28,080 Speaker 4: I am hoping that it's not because of the whole 1263 01:00:28,120 --> 01:00:31,880 Speaker 4: like baby out of marriage thing, but I'm not putting 1264 01:00:31,880 --> 01:00:35,080 Speaker 4: that past. Why the mom distanced herself so. 1265 01:00:35,120 --> 01:00:38,880 Speaker 2: Quick, Yeah, it could definitely be part of the reason. 1266 01:00:39,040 --> 01:00:40,840 Speaker 4: I don't think she should have I do not think 1267 01:00:40,840 --> 01:00:43,200 Speaker 4: she should know. It also sounds like your family just 1268 01:00:43,240 --> 01:00:45,560 Speaker 4: doesn't make it out to things as much like as 1269 01:00:45,600 --> 01:00:49,280 Speaker 4: a collective, where like your partner's family makes it out 1270 01:00:49,320 --> 01:00:51,520 Speaker 4: to like everything, which is great and super supportive, but 1271 01:00:51,560 --> 01:00:54,040 Speaker 4: it just I agree, like, it doesn't sound like they're 1272 01:00:54,080 --> 01:00:55,960 Speaker 4: gonna start trying. 1273 01:00:56,640 --> 01:01:00,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, mm mm hmm. Fast forward to this week, my 1274 01:01:01,000 --> 01:01:04,800 Speaker 2: significant other and I are finishing up our move to 1275 01:01:04,840 --> 01:01:07,240 Speaker 2: our first house, and my dad is the only one 1276 01:01:07,280 --> 01:01:09,520 Speaker 2: who came to help. I get a message from my 1277 01:01:09,560 --> 01:01:11,600 Speaker 2: mom asking if I had heard about my great aunt. 1278 01:01:12,080 --> 01:01:15,600 Speaker 2: My extended family's pretty close and gets together once a year, 1279 01:01:15,680 --> 01:01:18,760 Speaker 2: at least on my mom's side. I didn't see that, 1280 01:01:18,960 --> 01:01:21,240 Speaker 2: so she screenshots a Facebook post from a day ago 1281 01:01:21,280 --> 01:01:24,400 Speaker 2: and sends it. The post has multiple updates, but also 1282 01:01:24,480 --> 01:01:26,760 Speaker 2: says that the events that put my aunt in the 1283 01:01:27,120 --> 01:01:31,440 Speaker 2: ICU happened several weeks ago. I am then kept up 1284 01:01:31,440 --> 01:01:34,480 Speaker 2: to date on her health struggles and eventual passing a 1285 01:01:34,480 --> 01:01:38,040 Speaker 2: few days later. Then yesterday, when I'm walking into work, 1286 01:01:38,160 --> 01:01:41,120 Speaker 2: after I get called in I work in health, I 1287 01:01:41,160 --> 01:01:43,440 Speaker 2: get a message from my mom. It's a picture of 1288 01:01:43,480 --> 01:01:47,760 Speaker 2: my cousin showing she just got engaged. Below my mom says, 1289 01:01:47,840 --> 01:01:49,959 Speaker 2: not sure if you knew this or not. We need 1290 01:01:50,000 --> 01:01:53,320 Speaker 2: to get you added to my grandparents initials group. You 1291 01:01:53,360 --> 01:01:56,040 Speaker 2: aren't in it now, This by itself wouldn't have hurt, 1292 01:01:56,560 --> 01:01:59,440 Speaker 2: but I also wasn't in the sisters group. Still, I 1293 01:01:59,480 --> 01:02:01,960 Speaker 2: screenshot it and send it to who I think is 1294 01:02:02,040 --> 01:02:06,120 Speaker 2: my significant other and caption it yet another family group 1295 01:02:06,280 --> 01:02:08,560 Speaker 2: I'm not in, only to realize as soon as I 1296 01:02:08,680 --> 01:02:11,200 Speaker 2: enter work I accidentally sent it to the group I 1297 01:02:11,240 --> 01:02:13,760 Speaker 2: have with just my mom and dad. I try to 1298 01:02:13,840 --> 01:02:16,040 Speaker 2: unsend it, but I'm pretty sure my mom saw, so 1299 01:02:16,200 --> 01:02:19,040 Speaker 2: she texts me back privately that my dad and uncle 1300 01:02:19,080 --> 01:02:21,280 Speaker 2: are not in it either, which doesn't make me feel 1301 01:02:21,280 --> 01:02:23,360 Speaker 2: any better since I would still be the only one 1302 01:02:23,360 --> 01:02:25,720 Speaker 2: out of the loop, and says maybe I can help 1303 01:02:25,760 --> 01:02:29,720 Speaker 2: her add me. Honestly, at this point, if you saw 1304 01:02:29,760 --> 01:02:32,000 Speaker 2: that you were not in the sister's group chat and 1305 01:02:32,000 --> 01:02:33,360 Speaker 2: she hits you with the oh, they send a lot 1306 01:02:33,360 --> 01:02:35,280 Speaker 2: of texts, you wouldn't want to be in it? Are 1307 01:02:35,280 --> 01:02:36,520 Speaker 2: you going to go? No, I do want to be 1308 01:02:36,520 --> 01:02:39,760 Speaker 2: in it? Adme? At that point, that's on you and I. 1309 01:02:39,840 --> 01:02:42,320 Speaker 2: You know, we all have our different levels of ability 1310 01:02:42,320 --> 01:02:44,800 Speaker 2: to confront. But if you want to be. 1311 01:02:44,760 --> 01:02:47,880 Speaker 7: In that group chat and she goes, oh no, no, no, no, no, 1312 01:02:47,800 --> 01:02:50,240 Speaker 7: you don't, and you go, yeah, yeah, I do, add me, 1313 01:02:50,680 --> 01:02:52,440 Speaker 7: ad me see you and my sisters ad me, I'm 1314 01:02:52,440 --> 01:02:55,400 Speaker 7: a sister, or whoever add me. 1315 01:02:56,520 --> 01:02:57,160 Speaker 2: If you don't do. 1316 01:02:57,160 --> 01:02:59,960 Speaker 4: That, definitely take the phone next time. Put yourself in 1317 01:03:00,080 --> 01:03:03,840 Speaker 4: all these groups. That's or make your own, make one 1318 01:03:03,880 --> 01:03:06,360 Speaker 4: of me, Like, hey, guys, new sister's chat just dropped. 1319 01:03:07,040 --> 01:03:10,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, straight up. She then adds me to the conversation 1320 01:03:11,200 --> 01:03:13,880 Speaker 2: and asks if that adds me to the group. I 1321 01:03:13,960 --> 01:03:16,480 Speaker 2: say I won't know until a message is sent, and 1322 01:03:16,520 --> 01:03:19,120 Speaker 2: that I was at work while I'm in tears because 1323 01:03:19,160 --> 01:03:22,240 Speaker 2: yet again I'm an afterthought. She then proceeds to tell 1324 01:03:22,240 --> 01:03:24,520 Speaker 2: me the group is made a long time ago. Sorry, 1325 01:03:24,600 --> 01:03:27,080 Speaker 2: I forgot you were working. I still don't know when 1326 01:03:27,240 --> 01:03:30,640 Speaker 2: because I only see new messages. The first message my 1327 01:03:30,720 --> 01:03:33,640 Speaker 2: sister liked to picture. I opened the message group and 1328 01:03:33,680 --> 01:03:36,720 Speaker 2: can only see the name of the group my grandparents' 1329 01:03:37,040 --> 01:03:41,480 Speaker 2: initials originals. Apparently I couldn't get added to the originals 1330 01:03:41,520 --> 01:03:44,480 Speaker 2: until a long time later. Despite being in the family 1331 01:03:44,520 --> 01:03:47,560 Speaker 2: for almost three decades, I continue to get messages about 1332 01:03:47,600 --> 01:03:50,760 Speaker 2: my family liking a picture I can't even see to like. 1333 01:03:51,360 --> 01:03:54,280 Speaker 2: I still have not spoken within the group. Then this morning, 1334 01:03:54,360 --> 01:03:56,640 Speaker 2: my aunt replies, and it brings it all to the 1335 01:03:56,640 --> 01:03:59,320 Speaker 2: forefront again. Now I don't even know if I can 1336 01:03:59,360 --> 01:04:01,760 Speaker 2: get a message in this group again without feeling like 1337 01:04:01,800 --> 01:04:04,080 Speaker 2: more of an outsider in my family than I already do. 1338 01:04:04,880 --> 01:04:08,040 Speaker 2: We are really signal amplifying a lot of these negative 1339 01:04:08,760 --> 01:04:10,200 Speaker 2: thoughts within our own head. 1340 01:04:10,360 --> 01:04:11,960 Speaker 4: Find me at this point, you got to decide do 1341 01:04:11,960 --> 01:04:13,040 Speaker 4: you want to be in the group or do not 1342 01:04:13,080 --> 01:04:15,880 Speaker 4: want to be in the group. Yeah, and then we're 1343 01:04:15,880 --> 01:04:18,240 Speaker 4: gonna eventually have to get past that we weren't for 1344 01:04:18,280 --> 01:04:18,560 Speaker 4: a while. 1345 01:04:18,640 --> 01:04:21,320 Speaker 2: You're like, not being in the group is hurting my feelings. 1346 01:04:21,400 --> 01:04:23,440 Speaker 2: I'm in the group and it's hurting my feelings. At 1347 01:04:23,440 --> 01:04:25,520 Speaker 2: this point, find the family members that you want to 1348 01:04:25,520 --> 01:04:28,320 Speaker 2: be connected with, find the people and make your own 1349 01:04:28,320 --> 01:04:32,040 Speaker 2: group Boom. Be proactive about the things that we want. 1350 01:04:32,360 --> 01:04:34,720 Speaker 2: After years of spending my time making sure my son 1351 01:04:34,760 --> 01:04:37,440 Speaker 2: has a relationship with them by calling them each time 1352 01:04:37,480 --> 01:04:39,920 Speaker 2: I'm in town to see them, going to family events 1353 01:04:39,920 --> 01:04:41,760 Speaker 2: when I'm not on call, and trying to help with 1354 01:04:41,800 --> 01:04:44,760 Speaker 2: the yearly garage sale although I don't have anything in it. 1355 01:04:44,760 --> 01:04:47,680 Speaker 2: It feels like a smack in the face. After speaking 1356 01:04:47,720 --> 01:04:50,040 Speaker 2: with my s SO and his sister, which feels like 1357 01:04:50,080 --> 01:04:51,600 Speaker 2: more of a sister to me than my own and 1358 01:04:51,680 --> 01:04:54,600 Speaker 2: her husband. The more I feel like I'm not making 1359 01:04:54,640 --> 01:04:56,520 Speaker 2: an effort to see my family as much as I 1360 01:04:56,600 --> 01:04:59,920 Speaker 2: have been, and only seeing them on holidays or extended 1361 01:05:00,240 --> 01:05:04,760 Speaker 2: family events, we have a little bit more story left, honestly, either, 1362 01:05:04,880 --> 01:05:06,000 Speaker 2: Just like you. 1363 01:05:06,000 --> 01:05:07,760 Speaker 4: Got to just find the people that you want to 1364 01:05:07,800 --> 01:05:10,680 Speaker 4: talk to now, I don't even know, Like I don't 1365 01:05:10,720 --> 01:05:14,760 Speaker 4: even like just poop on all of their parts. Like 1366 01:05:14,800 --> 01:05:17,280 Speaker 4: you're another sister, you should be involved. 1367 01:05:17,360 --> 01:05:21,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, if being on the outside in is hurting your 1368 01:05:21,360 --> 01:05:25,439 Speaker 2: feelings and then being brought into the conversation after having 1369 01:05:25,440 --> 01:05:27,480 Speaker 2: to ask for it also hurt your feelings, I think 1370 01:05:27,520 --> 01:05:30,680 Speaker 2: you might just need to disconnect, you know. I think 1371 01:05:30,680 --> 01:05:32,680 Speaker 2: we need to go to therapy and reckon with what 1372 01:05:32,720 --> 01:05:36,160 Speaker 2: we want out of our family relationships, how much stock 1373 01:05:36,280 --> 01:05:40,960 Speaker 2: we put into the way mom treats us. Because we 1374 01:05:41,000 --> 01:05:45,720 Speaker 2: can only control how we react to situation, we can't 1375 01:05:45,760 --> 01:05:49,560 Speaker 2: control how someone else is gonna act. So I would 1376 01:05:49,600 --> 01:05:53,840 Speaker 2: suggest therapy and leaning on your significant other's family more 1377 01:05:53,880 --> 01:05:56,840 Speaker 2: than your own. I want to stop letting them know 1378 01:05:56,960 --> 01:06:00,400 Speaker 2: about the things my genius son says or does. Citing 1379 01:06:00,480 --> 01:06:03,280 Speaker 2: the digits of Pie or using big words that kids 1380 01:06:03,280 --> 01:06:05,760 Speaker 2: his age don't. But it's also hard for me to 1381 01:06:05,800 --> 01:06:08,920 Speaker 2: do since my dad is his only grandfather. But if 1382 01:06:08,920 --> 01:06:10,840 Speaker 2: I bring him to see my dad, my mom will 1383 01:06:10,880 --> 01:06:13,720 Speaker 2: likely see him too. My mom has a message since 1384 01:06:13,840 --> 01:06:16,160 Speaker 2: last night or attempted to call me. Would I be 1385 01:06:16,240 --> 01:06:18,440 Speaker 2: wrong if I stopped making the effort to see my 1386 01:06:18,560 --> 01:06:22,440 Speaker 2: parents and family that I have for years and limited 1387 01:06:22,440 --> 01:06:24,680 Speaker 2: my son's contact with them over not being added to 1388 01:06:24,720 --> 01:06:28,000 Speaker 2: the family group chat. Absolutely, you would be wrong for that, 1389 01:06:28,600 --> 01:06:31,840 Speaker 2: But I think the premise of that goes further than 1390 01:06:31,840 --> 01:06:34,160 Speaker 2: not being added into the group chat. I think you 1391 01:06:34,200 --> 01:06:36,840 Speaker 2: should go to therapy before you cut off your son 1392 01:06:36,920 --> 01:06:41,640 Speaker 2: from the rest of his family. On your side, for sure, 1393 01:06:42,880 --> 01:06:45,400 Speaker 2: we have some comments to finish the story. Come in one. 1394 01:06:45,520 --> 01:06:49,600 Speaker 2: There's nothing wrong in matching effort. It makes you feel 1395 01:06:49,600 --> 01:06:51,880 Speaker 2: a lot better. Put your love and time into the 1396 01:06:51,920 --> 01:06:54,680 Speaker 2: relationships that are good for you and your nuclear family. 1397 01:06:54,760 --> 01:06:57,919 Speaker 2: Drop the rope with those where you don't get energy back. 1398 01:06:58,320 --> 01:07:00,560 Speaker 2: You don't have to do anything dramatic. It's just a 1399 01:07:00,600 --> 01:07:03,280 Speaker 2: decision to not be the first to message, not be 1400 01:07:03,320 --> 01:07:05,200 Speaker 2: the one to call, or the one to travel to 1401 01:07:05,240 --> 01:07:08,040 Speaker 2: see people unless they've come to see you. You don't 1402 01:07:08,040 --> 01:07:11,000 Speaker 2: have to be confrontational about it either. Just saying you 1403 01:07:11,040 --> 01:07:13,360 Speaker 2: will see when you have time and then not getting 1404 01:07:13,400 --> 01:07:16,600 Speaker 2: back to them works just fine. You'll be happier and 1405 01:07:17,000 --> 01:07:20,160 Speaker 2: you wouldn't be the a hole. Comment to you do 1406 01:07:20,320 --> 01:07:24,360 Speaker 2: sound a bit sensitive, like bringing up very old comments. 1407 01:07:24,960 --> 01:07:27,560 Speaker 2: So you said you have a son. Let's say you 1408 01:07:27,560 --> 01:07:30,800 Speaker 2: get pregnant three more times and they're all boys. Sure 1409 01:07:31,080 --> 01:07:33,560 Speaker 2: you're going to love all your kids, but won't you 1410 01:07:33,640 --> 01:07:36,840 Speaker 2: be a bit disappointed that number three or number four 1411 01:07:36,920 --> 01:07:40,080 Speaker 2: wasn't a girl. That's just normal. And the comment about 1412 01:07:40,080 --> 01:07:43,520 Speaker 2: being chatty with the girlfriends, seriously, let it go. I 1413 01:07:43,560 --> 01:07:46,320 Speaker 2: think you should see your family when you can. That's 1414 01:07:46,320 --> 01:07:49,640 Speaker 2: how you stay close. None of us are perfect, and 1415 01:07:49,760 --> 01:07:52,040 Speaker 2: that's the end of that story.