Speaker 1: This is cut to It with Steve Smith Senior at
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Speaker 1: Steve Smith Senior and i' and this is cut to it.
Speaker 1: Good do it, Good do it. They're getting down to
Speaker 1: do it. Good do it. We asked the questions you
Speaker 1: always want to know, but no one ever asked, let's
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Speaker 1: we're about to let you know. It's all. Welcome to
Speaker 1: the cut to a podcast. Man, it's a guy who
Speaker 1: um man, he's done everything he's been uh Morgan Stanley, investor,
Speaker 1: UM executive vice president of the formally Montreal exposed. Um,
Speaker 1: and you just done everything right and then now you're
Speaker 1: working as a baseball analyst. I just want to say,
Speaker 1: welcome to the Cut to a Podcast. David SAMs. I
Speaker 1: appreciate that. I'm only fifty four, so I would say
Speaker 1: I'm only on the sixth hole, so I have not
Speaker 1: done everything at all. I'm that perspective. I like that
Speaker 1: I'm just getting started. I like, I'm not gonna argue
Speaker 1: with you. I'm sorry. Yeah, Well, um, are you ready
Speaker 1: for this? Oh? I am ready? Give me all you got? Well,
Speaker 1: that's all you're gonna get there, all right, here we go,
Speaker 1: all right, hey if you want aloud? Oh would you
Speaker 1: keep working in your current position or profession? Yeah. So
Speaker 1: I love what I do, and I do it because
Speaker 1: I love it, So I have I've been lucky, and
Speaker 1: that after law school, I started a company over in
Speaker 1: Europe delivering newspapers and I was twenty five years old,
Speaker 1: and that I loved every moment I was there, even
Speaker 1: when the Internet started and all of a sudden nobody
Speaker 1: would buy regular papers anymore. I said, all right, let
Speaker 1: me try something else. So I went to Wall Street.
Speaker 1: And when I was on Wall Street, I loved it.
Speaker 1: I was so proud to be at Morgan Stanley and
Speaker 1: enjoyed the work I was doing. And then I moved
Speaker 1: into baseball, and I loved it. I had a great
Speaker 1: time running the Expos, and then I had a great
Speaker 1: time for sixteen years with the Marlins Wonder World Series
Speaker 1: and built the ballpark and helped the owners sell the
Speaker 1: team to Jeter, who just got fired. And I love
Speaker 1: doing that baseball. I was super excited to see what
Speaker 1: the next chapter was, and I got an agent, and
Speaker 1: then I got a job at CBS, and I have
Speaker 1: my own show called Nothing Personal with David Sampson, where
Speaker 1: I can talk about whatever I want. David, Um, this
Speaker 1: is my show. Slow down like this just the icebreaker,
Speaker 1: bro I don't I don't like we was done like
Speaker 1: he don't let me at all. That's a record a
Speaker 1: part as right now. We just everything right listen, I'm driving.
Speaker 1: Get your ass in the back seat. Okay, you ain't tall.
Speaker 1: I looked you up, so you were you gonna you
Speaker 1: got a little little car seat. Just buckle up, all right,
Speaker 1: we got your crustable, Well, get your apple sauce. Just hey,
Speaker 1: we'll get there. I'll tell you when we get there. Okay,
Speaker 1: all right, Paul's all right, here we go. What kind
Speaker 1: of dog never bites a full one? No hot dog? Bro. See,
Speaker 1: we're just in an icebreaker section right there. We're just
Speaker 1: trying to loosen you up. Okay, you're you're trying to
Speaker 1: care cancer. Were just trying to we just I mean,
Speaker 1: I asked what you going a lot of He's like no,
Speaker 1: And here's why, man, I just I was gonna say
Speaker 1: I would still doing my job because I think I've
Speaker 1: already hit the lotto. But you didn't even give me
Speaker 1: a chance to because you went off way yonder. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean it was I got I was like, damn,
Speaker 1: I can't ask him about about when he founded his
Speaker 1: Companye Travels Fast, but he already went into it. We
Speaker 1: was gonna use in London. Damn it can you can
Speaker 1: you get on the plane first? All right? What have
Speaker 1: you given up on something? When I stopped growing, I
Speaker 1: gave up on being able to dunk on a regulation hoop.
Speaker 1: I'm right there with you. Hey, I'm right there with you.
Speaker 1: How tall are you? Actually? Five five? I'm five nine
Speaker 1: three four? I'm five four and three quarters. Now there
Speaker 1: the podcast perfect because you always got a round up.
Speaker 1: You got around up. He did. He got convicted. He
Speaker 1: was Actually it's one of the eight, he said. But
Speaker 1: then when I said, he was like, damn, I'm convicted?
Speaker 1: All right? Hey, where are you from in a place
Speaker 1: you call your hometown? I was born in Milwaukee, Wisconsin,
Speaker 1: and New York is my home? Do tail? What? Why
Speaker 1: are you claiming New York? Well? I moved there when
Speaker 1: I was five and I lived there really the entire
Speaker 1: my entire life, except Florida for eighteen years when I
Speaker 1: was running the Marlins. Well, I mean you kind of
Speaker 1: stumped me on now because I was really gonna say, like,
Speaker 1: how was it in Wisconsin? I've been in Wisconsin a
Speaker 1: few times. Yeah, how's your upbringing in Wisconsin? How that's
Speaker 1: why they moved to New York? Hey, what you remember? Well?
Speaker 1: My upbringing Wisconsin was fraught with parents who were fighting
Speaker 1: so much they finally divorced. And then I moved to
Speaker 1: New York with my mom. But I went back to
Speaker 1: Wisconsin for summer camp. I went back for college. I'm
Speaker 1: a badger, so I happened to love Wisconsin. Oh. You
Speaker 1: you guys just got a new office coordinator who used
Speaker 1: uh Bobby Ingram. He used to be my wife receiver's coach.
Speaker 1: He's a good dude. So in New York, how was
Speaker 1: your upbringing? Lucky? I need some texture on that. Oh,
Speaker 1: I just I don't want to talk too much, So
Speaker 1: I'm I'm going now to now you can Now you
Speaker 1: can talk. Now you can go the ice breakers. You
Speaker 1: you can't tell me your life story after the first question.
Speaker 1: I was born on third base, but knew I didn't
Speaker 1: hit a triple, and I've spent my whole life trying
Speaker 1: to make sure that I earned my way home. Wow,
Speaker 1: that was all that was, like the very poetic tupac
Speaker 1: esc I's trying to figure out what was I born
Speaker 1: on first or second? I was born in seven? N God,
Speaker 1: this is about to be hilarious. I like David. He
Speaker 1: is spunky. You got so fire too. You've caused a
Speaker 1: lot of trouble your life average, Yeah, but you know what,
Speaker 1: I've never been punched and I've never thrown a punch
Speaker 1: in my whole life because I've been able to talk
Speaker 1: my way out of every pickle I've been in, and
Speaker 1: there been a lot of them. Really, when's the last
Speaker 1: time you've been in a pickle? The coast? Is the
Speaker 1: last time you at the grocery store three days ago?
Speaker 1: Know what what happened? Was it in the produce section
Speaker 1: trying to get those melons? So listen, if you're gonna
Speaker 1: feel every goddamn apocado, then you're gonna have to buy
Speaker 1: them all. And I'm saying, is that pre COVID or
Speaker 1: post covid? What is it? What is it? What is
Speaker 1: this anchor? I love your heads at pre COVID. For me,
Speaker 1: I've been the hand sanitizer guy. People are just catching
Speaker 1: up to me now. So I've been a hand sandy guy.
Speaker 1: In my entire life, I'm not a big germ guy.
Speaker 1: And I was in a job where I had to
Speaker 1: shake hands with people every day all day. So I
Speaker 1: was doing Howie Mandel before he was, I was a
Speaker 1: major fist guy. All right, let's go back to these avocados.
Speaker 1: Why so you I'm telling you this dude is a firecracker.
Speaker 1: Why are you with people in the produce? What happened?
Speaker 1: Because I'm trying to get It's simple. I'm trying to
Speaker 1: get produced. I'm trying to get avocados and onions, and
Speaker 1: I'm trying to get in and out right. I don't
Speaker 1: want to ditherer. I've got shipped to do right. And
Speaker 1: so there's people touching every bit of produce. Hold on,
Speaker 1: hold on, Davis, do you understand if you just grabbed
Speaker 1: the first one avocado, you can have avocado that is
Speaker 1: not usable all And if you plan on using that
Speaker 1: tonight and it is not right, you're disappointed. I can
Speaker 1: choose an avocado with my eye. You can tell which
Speaker 1: ones are softer and which ones aren't. That is incorrect,
Speaker 1: and I disagree. Being a guy who cooks, you cannot tell.
Speaker 1: Because I've I was like oh, I think that's a
Speaker 1: good when I was like, wait a week till that
Speaker 1: was ready. Or you get one that looks great and
Speaker 1: you touching him and your damn hen and it almost
Speaker 1: sinks into it. So how you know? I'm not lying? Though?
Speaker 1: I know? But aren't you a courteous avocado picker? Do
Speaker 1: you take up the entire section of the hassa avocados,
Speaker 1: sort of covering it like batman as you try to
Speaker 1: find the one you want, or do you stand a
Speaker 1: one side and let a little five ft five guy
Speaker 1: just get in a little bit on the right and
Speaker 1: choose his own avocados? Which guy are you? Actually? I'm
Speaker 1: the guy who does not want any confrontation and I
Speaker 1: don't want you to hover over me, so I tried
Speaker 1: to I try to give you the same courtesy that
Speaker 1: you're giving me, which is I don't want to talk
Speaker 1: to you, and I don't really care what you want
Speaker 1: to talk about. I'm just in here to get my
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to make tableside go out. No, No,
Speaker 1: here's what I'm trying to do. I'm just I just
Speaker 1: trying to do my hunty. I'm just trying to get
Speaker 1: some honey. So I gotta do the honey dude list, right,
Speaker 1: I'm not interested in what you got going on. I'm
Speaker 1: not trying to invade in your privacy. I don't want
Speaker 1: your assistance. Don't ask me where something is because I
Speaker 1: don't work there. I don't have the outfit that looks
Speaker 1: like I worked there. I don't. I don't, So I'm
Speaker 1: the guy that sits over to the side. I actually
Speaker 1: sometimes will put my card over there and walk over
Speaker 1: so I could just grab what I need to grabbing
Speaker 1: them back because I got a list of stuff I
Speaker 1: need to get in get out. So okay, So you know,
Speaker 1: you list on your phone or do you write it
Speaker 1: on paper? If my wife texted, I'll have them on
Speaker 1: my phone, but I prefer paper because I can check
Speaker 1: it off, because you know, because you know, sometimes you
Speaker 1: can't find everything at that one, you know, with with
Speaker 1: food shortages and all that. You know, I don't understand.
Speaker 1: But so you gotta go here and then go there,
Speaker 1: and um, but I get a lot of a D
Speaker 1: D in them in the grocery store, like I'm a ooh,
Speaker 1: and I got like what's that? Oh that looks good. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I definitely can't go there when you're hungry. That's man,
Speaker 1: I didn't shot. Is there any worse feeling than getting
Speaker 1: home thinking that you really did something good, that you
Speaker 1: took care of the entire honeydoo list, and you missed
Speaker 1: the most important thing you got you got the wrong thing, Like,
Speaker 1: don't get that you're supposed to get the ten minute quick.
Speaker 1: Oh it's not the thirty guy I've got, So I'll
Speaker 1: just FaceTime listen. Is this the one that you want?
Speaker 1: Or you know it's not making sure? Here's the worst.
Speaker 1: It's like when there's like one little word that's off
Speaker 1: but they say a particular brand, You're like, they don't
Speaker 1: have that brand, and now you gotta pivot and you
Speaker 1: gotta figure. You gotta make an executive decision. But then
Speaker 1: you know the executive decision you mess up, then they
Speaker 1: then you're gonna get mad. Then they you get mad
Speaker 1: at them, Like I don't had to go. I got
Speaker 1: the number one. I came home one day thinking I
Speaker 1: was doing something so nice, buying some Starbucks Pikes Place
Speaker 1: coffee from the grocery store, and so I see it
Speaker 1: and there's not a lot of supply, so I buy
Speaker 1: like the remaining four packages that are about the eight
Speaker 1: inches high packages come back and show them. And then
Speaker 1: I'm totally summarily dismissed, not like a huge thank you
Speaker 1: and like, hey, do you want to go upstairs or something?
Speaker 1: You realize that that's the caffeinated you got the decaf
Speaker 1: And I said, where does it say that? See that?
Speaker 1: And she's like, it's right there, you idiot. Well maybe
Speaker 1: I went to Goodwill. Maybe you didn't clap nothing at
Speaker 1: night at the time, My man, what do you say?
Speaker 1: I said, yes I did. I was just alone at
Speaker 1: the time. I didn't catch that last Here's why he
Speaker 1: missed the decaf because it was probably on the top
Speaker 1: shelf and he just grabbed it. Cut to it, un Blue,
Speaker 1: what'd you stay up all night thinking of short chokes?
Speaker 1: H I'm short too, so I communal space. I'm speaking
Speaker 1: from experience. How do we get here? Hey? That's a
Speaker 1: few Hey, that's a few times. I look around, like, yeah,
Speaker 1: ain't boy catching me trying to jump up for this ship?
Speaker 1: I saw Steve trying to get on. It's a boomerang,
Speaker 1: bo you ain't catching me slipping. I'll be like favre
Speaker 1: three words in the grocery store are excuse me? I
Speaker 1: try to ask them to reach for something that I
Speaker 1: can't reach this. Hey, I've been right there. Hey, my man,
Speaker 1: your help. He's like, what do you need? I said,
Speaker 1: man up there? A few times it's kind of like,
Speaker 1: you know, a few times you think they think they're
Speaker 1: gonna say something, and then they know it's me and
Speaker 1: they're like, yeah, I'm not rolling this dice. But I
Speaker 1: know I'm short. I'm okay with it, doesn't bother me.
Speaker 1: But you gonna catch me trying to jump up there
Speaker 1: for that ship. I got time for that shot. But
Speaker 1: in your own home, do you do that? Oh? Absolutely,
Speaker 1: so I actually had something. I actually do have a
Speaker 1: step stool in my closet because I my shoes up top.
Speaker 1: But sometimes when I'm feeling good, I'll spring up there.
Speaker 1: But here's the one time I did. I did. I
Speaker 1: did it the other day. I springing up there and
Speaker 1: got one the top box and otherwise came hit me
Speaker 1: in the face. I said, that's what I need to
Speaker 1: use the damn stool. I've had That exact thing happened
Speaker 1: to me. Or what's worse is you jump up, one
Speaker 1: of them comes down, but by accident you push one
Speaker 1: of them further back. You have that I have step
Speaker 1: stools in every closet and upstairs, downstairs, everywhere. But sometimes
Speaker 1: it's just a game because I'm too lazy to get
Speaker 1: the steps stool, so I jump up to get something
Speaker 1: and then I end up getting the steps stool. See,
Speaker 1: these are the intangibles that I'm sure you had running
Speaker 1: an MLB franchise. Right here, this is where it came
Speaker 1: into play. You should have seen me talking to Gean
Speaker 1: Carlos Stanton. We had some fun times the two of us. Man. Listen,
Speaker 1: I just let's just go right into your crazy career.
Speaker 1: Like you know you said, first Company delivered an New
Speaker 1: York Times Berry and also Wall Street Journal um to
Speaker 1: Europe on the same day. Basis what why is what
Speaker 1: is so unique about that? Because of people today, you know,
Speaker 1: kids today, people today, technologists. It's just it's there. So
Speaker 1: that doesn't sound like anything unique. Can have those three
Speaker 1: tabs open seconds, I mean, you get you you can
Speaker 1: have it on. You know, you can get Wall Street
Speaker 1: Journal for free, you know, for for for a week
Speaker 1: or thirty days and cancel it before they charge you.
Speaker 1: So you know that I've done that several times. Man,
Speaker 1: you are the target market. Are a million other people
Speaker 1: who cancel stuff like the old Columbia House when you
Speaker 1: get a few c ds and then cancel it ten
Speaker 1: for one ninety nine. Yeah yeah, I remember. And then
Speaker 1: if you try to steal get me. I canceled my
Speaker 1: debit card and get a new one, so I know
Speaker 1: all the tricks of the trade. Lost that one. You
Speaker 1: can charge that new credit, can charge that old crack
Speaker 1: to getting a new one. I'm talking. I want a
Speaker 1: whole new number number moth yea. I will no cross over.
Speaker 1: Remember when Netflix first started, and it was you got
Speaker 1: you put movies in your queue and they would send
Speaker 1: you DVDs. I get a new one, right, but you
Speaker 1: could get a new one only when you returned one
Speaker 1: that you watched. And sometimes you'd move stuff up the
Speaker 1: queue because you really wanted to see that he had
Speaker 1: to return something. People, it's just far and so thirty
Speaker 1: years ago. I hate to say it to the audience,
Speaker 1: but I do this on nothing personal all the time.
Speaker 1: It's thirty years ago. The only way to get sports
Speaker 1: scores in Europe with something called the International Herald Tribune,
Speaker 1: which was a newspaper that was owned by both the
Speaker 1: Washington Post in the New York Times, and the sports
Speaker 1: part of that paper gave you scores of games that
Speaker 1: were a day old. And so if you wanted scores
Speaker 1: of your favorite team, who were only getting them a
Speaker 1: day late, a day late from the state, or a
Speaker 1: day late from Europe, because technically that would be two
Speaker 1: days late. Oh I love for your heads at so
Speaker 1: Sunday night scores would be in the Tuesday Herald Tribune
Speaker 1: correct two days late. So in nineties seven, you you
Speaker 1: did Morgan Stanley. However, in that four year spend, what
Speaker 1: what did you learn and how did the business go?
Speaker 1: And why you know? Did you sell? It? Just disappear?
Speaker 1: Like tell me, tell me about it, like you start
Speaker 1: sell company like that? And what I did is I
Speaker 1: I went to a different city, just say Paris or
Speaker 1: London or Geneva or Brussels, and I would go and
Speaker 1: try to find Americans who are living there, like go
Speaker 1: to chambers of commerce, and I would go to all
Speaker 1: the hotels and I would deliver papers and have them
Speaker 1: sold to their customers. And I even did home delivery
Speaker 1: to ex pats who are living overseas. But think about
Speaker 1: the business. All my inventory was either sold or thrown
Speaker 1: away every week because when you're doing the Sunday Times,
Speaker 1: once the papers are delivered, you're onto the next newspaper.
Speaker 1: And when I started doing daily deliveries, I never had
Speaker 1: excess inventory because you buy the papers that you know
Speaker 1: you're gonna sell and then you're done. And what happened
Speaker 1: is in that period, the Internet really got going, and
Speaker 1: I summarily dismissed it because I made so much money
Speaker 1: from people who loved getting the New York Times inc
Speaker 1: on their fingers when they were reading the paper. And
Speaker 1: I said, no one's gonna read the newspaper on a screen.
Speaker 1: It's just not gonna happen. And I was in Asia
Speaker 1: starting to deliver papers there, and I flew on a plane.
Speaker 1: Talk about being gregarious. I flew on a plane and
Speaker 1: started talking with the guy who worked at Morgan Stanley
Speaker 1: and I told him what I was doing, and I was,
Speaker 1: you know, twenty eight years old, and he said, listen,
Speaker 1: if you ever want to come to Wall Street, just
Speaker 1: call me. So when I saw that this business was
Speaker 1: gonna end, literally gonna disappear, I gave him a call
Speaker 1: and he hired me. So I was the only non
Speaker 1: NBA to work on that side of Morgan Stanley and
Speaker 1: had a great, great time. I love cut to It
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Speaker 1: answers questions, Um, yeah, I got all my questions answered.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm here for, a brother, cut to a
Speaker 1: podcast dot Com. What led you to hop on an
Speaker 1: airplane to go to Asia when you were doing so
Speaker 1: well in in Brussels and London, all those all those
Speaker 1: different places that were transient through um they do the
Speaker 1: year old um train and through through the different avenues.
Speaker 1: It's kind of like living in the South where you
Speaker 1: know live. We live here in Charlotte and you go,
Speaker 1: you know, growing up in l A, I go five hours,
Speaker 1: I've been twenty miles outside, you know, with traffic, I've
Speaker 1: been twenty miles outside of my house. But here in Charlotte.
Speaker 1: You go, you know, you go two or three hours.
Speaker 1: You're depending on which route you go to South Carolina.
Speaker 1: You can hit Virginia, you can hit Tennessee, you can
Speaker 1: hit Atlanta, I mean Georgia. So there's so many different places.
Speaker 1: What what led you to jump on a plane to
Speaker 1: go to Asia when you have so many different people?
Speaker 1: You still have Italy, um, all these different places. What
Speaker 1: why Asia? Because someone approached me and said, can you
Speaker 1: help with home delivery of newspapers in Asia? You seem
Speaker 1: to know how to get this done, and so I
Speaker 1: was hired to go there and build up a company
Speaker 1: in Asia. So did you eventually sell your company or
Speaker 1: just it went away? It just disappears. So when you
Speaker 1: stop think about it, I was I was. I was
Speaker 1: by myself, and I had newspapers that I would buy
Speaker 1: from the New York Times and then have them delivered
Speaker 1: to Kennedy, put on a cargo plane and fly to
Speaker 1: Europe and then from Paris they fly all over the
Speaker 1: country in the world. And one day I stopped putting
Speaker 1: the papers on the plane. So it's crazy. The way
Speaker 1: that technology is advanced. You were physically delivering, so you
Speaker 1: were so you were in London. Okay, I'm a visual guy.
Speaker 1: So you were in London, you had a contact in
Speaker 1: New York. Yes, it's a it's a great story which
Speaker 1: we may or may not have time for. But yes,
Speaker 1: I had a contact with the New York Times circulation
Speaker 1: department that got the papers delivered from on Saturday nights
Speaker 1: from the printing press right to Kennedy Airport and then
Speaker 1: Kenny Airport. I mean there are pieces of paper they
Speaker 1: how did they get on the plane. They were putting
Speaker 1: palettes and they were put on Air France flight double
Speaker 1: O nine which left at nine p m. S Saturday
Speaker 1: night and landed at eight thirty a m. Sunday morning.
Speaker 1: And then they get picked up by a newspaper delivery
Speaker 1: truck and delivered to hotels and houses and apartments in Parish.
Speaker 1: And some of the papers would connect to other cities
Speaker 1: because Air France would fly from Paris as their hub
Speaker 1: like FedEx Uses Memphis to all the other different places
Speaker 1: in Europe. And so obviously were with pairs. You you
Speaker 1: had some people in Um and some of the some
Speaker 1: of the French colonies as well. Um one of that
Speaker 1: paper as well. So on what was that so Um logos,
Speaker 1: you know, different different African nations. Now we're uh French
Speaker 1: colonies as well. So I never expanded to Africa, but
Speaker 1: I did. I did Europe and Asia. Only what I
Speaker 1: did I expanded into I went from the Sunday Times,
Speaker 1: then I started doing the Daily Times. And you have
Speaker 1: to think about it when you're in a mayor reckon
Speaker 1: living abroad and you can wake up in the morning
Speaker 1: or in some places it didn't get there U till
Speaker 1: the afternoon. But even if you come back for your
Speaker 1: CS to and there's Today's New York Times at your door,
Speaker 1: you have to realize that was pretty cool for people
Speaker 1: because they couldn't just go open a pagage on the
Speaker 1: Internet and it wasn't there. There was big time out there.
Speaker 1: You're talking about two and a half hours, nobody doing nothing.
Speaker 1: I don't have emergency CS to you in trouble and
Speaker 1: here we are two and you're about to read the
Speaker 1: news and the main a verse. That's how fast things
Speaker 1: have changed. It's amazing. It makes me think about what
Speaker 1: will be thirty years from now, because they'll look at
Speaker 1: this the way we look at thirty years ago. It's
Speaker 1: how they'll look at us in thirty years bringing up
Speaker 1: on a website is about to be obsolete. Really, yeah,
Speaker 1: just getting a hangar, you know, but it's think about
Speaker 1: He's talking about just delivering papers and his company went
Speaker 1: away could put because technology advances. Yeah, so you go
Speaker 1: to Morgan Stanley, Um, what year? I mean? I mean,
Speaker 1: I know, ye one more. What month? Are you asking
Speaker 1: me something twenty five years ago? I'm trying. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't know. I just say that question. I've never been
Speaker 1: asked that question. I'm pretty I am a detailed interviewer.
Speaker 1: So I just wanted to know, well, so cool I was.
Speaker 1: I wore a black pinstripe suit to my first day
Speaker 1: with a a white shirt and a red tie. And
Speaker 1: I wore that because I thought that that would be
Speaker 1: like the proper Wall Street thing, and it had like
Speaker 1: elephants on it, because I wanted them to know that
Speaker 1: I'd be going after elephants and trying to make a
Speaker 1: ton of money for myself and for everyone else. I'm
Speaker 1: not sure that that detail was appreciated at the time,
Speaker 1: but it ended up being like the movie Walsh Um
Speaker 1: Wolf of Wall Street, except I never met Margot Robbie
Speaker 1: and I never did Coke. Rather than that. It was
Speaker 1: exactly like that. I'm glad you said all that because
Speaker 1: I was like, that's what I thought about. So here's
Speaker 1: here's another textual thing you probably don't What kind of
Speaker 1: shoes did you have? A Ferragamos, the ones with the
Speaker 1: buckles on the top. How old were they? Though? Great?
Speaker 1: I love for your heads? At uh, they were brand new.
Speaker 1: And the reason I know that is I didn't realize
Speaker 1: that you should scuff shoes before wearing them. YEA little
Speaker 1: as chicken run around office like this, Look how his
Speaker 1: dress and he got some damn new shoes. Oh no,
Speaker 1: don't play. And he's still till you make it. That's
Speaker 1: why I asked, because you seem like the dude you're
Speaker 1: gonna go all out. He's like, look, I may not
Speaker 1: know what I'm doing on the first day, but damn,
Speaker 1: and I'm look like like that's awesome. All right. So
Speaker 1: nineteen seven, I'm fresh, I'm fresh heading into my senior
Speaker 1: year or coming out of my senior year community college
Speaker 1: and you over there investing people's money. Yes, okay. What
Speaker 1: was the biggest challenge, and Morgan Stanley, for you, it
Speaker 1: was navigating around the compliance department because I had clients
Speaker 1: who wanted to do aggressive trades, and we were doing
Speaker 1: collateral swaps and all sorts of ways to diversify because
Speaker 1: at that time, people were getting concentrated equity positions, meaning
Speaker 1: they were selling their company and getting a huge amount
Speaker 1: of stock in the company that acquired them, and they'd
Speaker 1: be rich, but only with one stock. And I would say, hey,
Speaker 1: And the way I got clients is by reading the
Speaker 1: paper ironically, and you read about deals that are happening,
Speaker 1: and you cold call. I would make over a hundred
Speaker 1: calls a day. David Sampson with Morgan Stanley. Oh, because
Speaker 1: that's the best way. I'm a numbers guy. I need
Speaker 1: to get knows. And that's why I never got offended.
Speaker 1: The reason I was more successful than most people is
Speaker 1: when they would get knows, they'd be despondent and they
Speaker 1: spend forever trying to convince the nose to be a yes.
Speaker 1: And my greatest skill is that I was able to
Speaker 1: say to the person who said no to me, thank you.
Speaker 1: You're giving me now more time to move on to
Speaker 1: the next call, and on one call closer to a yes.
Speaker 1: So just out you just told him no, they said,
Speaker 1: and he was like you know what, you gotta play
Speaker 1: your strengths, so speaking, to play your strengths. So how
Speaker 1: do you then transition from Morgan Stanley to walking into
Speaker 1: the Montreal and the Montreal Exposed front office? Um in
Speaker 1: such a high ranking position? What was that? Like? Brother?
Speaker 1: Like me? I had to go into ad to work
Speaker 1: for NBA franchise. But I gotta go in as an
Speaker 1: unpaid turn. I'm going in at C suite. You gotta
Speaker 1: keep up? Whoa being born? That? Okay? Well, so in
Speaker 1: nineteen uh in maybe if you're gonna ask, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: say it was January of nine. Jeffrey Loria, who at
Speaker 1: that time was married to my mother, so he was
Speaker 1: my stepfather. He called me at Morgan Stanley and he said,
Speaker 1: I want to buy the Montreal expos Can you help
Speaker 1: me do it? And I said to him, I'd I'd
Speaker 1: be happy to help you. Here's my rate. This is
Speaker 1: what I make per day, and this is what you'll
Speaker 1: have to pay me because there's only X number of
Speaker 1: hours in the day and if you're taking me away
Speaker 1: from my job at Morgan Stanley, you have to replace
Speaker 1: that income for me. So we made a real you
Speaker 1: could yes and so I said to him, you'd have
Speaker 1: to pay the rate, and he did, and so I worked,
Speaker 1: and so it was that I you nailed it. It
Speaker 1: was it was under the minimum that Major League Baseball
Speaker 1: players get in the new collective bargaining agreement daily. So no,
Speaker 1: I would keep you know what I would do it?
Speaker 1: Morgan said, this is sort of funny. Actually, I had
Speaker 1: a piece of paper. I would keep track of the
Speaker 1: amount of money I was making two columns, and one
Speaker 1: column was the amount of money I was making, and
Speaker 1: the other column was the amount of money my clients
Speaker 1: were making. Because I always knew that for me to
Speaker 1: make money, it was important not every time, but the
Speaker 1: majority of the time the clients had to make money.
Speaker 1: I could still make money with losing money, but you're
Speaker 1: not going to keep clients forlong that way, sure not.
Speaker 1: So I would keep tracks so at the end of
Speaker 1: every day, I would know exactly how much money I
Speaker 1: made that particular day. So that was you had a
Speaker 1: lot going on to manage your clients, so you could
Speaker 1: not be able to do all of that, keep on
Speaker 1: it dayly and help your stepfather acquire a professional professional
Speaker 1: baseball team. That's exactly why I needed to get paid.
Speaker 1: You're exactly right. You didn't give him no discount, Huh.
Speaker 1: The opposite. I charged a premium because I knew he
Speaker 1: wanted it badly, and I knew he couldn't do it
Speaker 1: without me, because he trusted me to be helpful to him.
Speaker 1: And so I was taught by my grandfather that you're
Speaker 1: worth what you're paid. That's true, mhm. So I I
Speaker 1: did the deal and on December the deal closed, and
Speaker 1: he had asked me, uh, through my mother, with some
Speaker 1: nice Jewish guilt, to help him run the team for
Speaker 1: thirty days after he bought it, and I agreed to
Speaker 1: do that, and we cut a deal for a month
Speaker 1: of work, and that was a higher premium, yes, because
Speaker 1: that was now a full time job. Got I got
Speaker 1: fired the first day. It's a story I've not really
Speaker 1: told before the first day, yes, December nine. On December
Speaker 1: the deal was announced in Montreal, and I gave an
Speaker 1: interview because I speak French and in Montreal Fance. So
Speaker 1: I gave an interview my first time ever having an
Speaker 1: i FB, which is the thing you put in your ear.
Speaker 1: I'm saying that for your listeners, not you. Of course,
Speaker 1: you know that I'm trying to pretend that listeners don't
Speaker 1: know what that is, right you speaking French. Of all
Speaker 1: our viewers are visually impaired, whether it be visually by
Speaker 1: their eyes or they may be doing something else and
Speaker 1: not watching it. So I love that. My my, my
Speaker 1: coach always tells me explain to why give detail? So
Speaker 1: I love it. I agree with you, that is great.
Speaker 1: That's why your show is so successful. Actually, so I
Speaker 1: did interview and f and uh he did not like
Speaker 1: that I was doing media. And he called me when
Speaker 1: I was back in my hotel and he had already
Speaker 1: flown back to New York and I was in a
Speaker 1: hotel Montreal, ready to go to work the next morning,
Speaker 1: and he said to me, you know, I don't think
Speaker 1: this is gonna work because I need to be the
Speaker 1: public face of this franchise, not you, and I can't
Speaker 1: have you doing any interviews or anything like that. And
Speaker 1: I said, Jeffrey, there's no way to run the team
Speaker 1: or to be the president of this team without being
Speaker 1: the public face, because I'm the one who's going to
Speaker 1: be here every day, not you. And he said, I
Speaker 1: think you should pack your bags. It's not gonna work out.
Speaker 1: And I said no problem. Hung up the phone. So
Speaker 1: I'm packing my bags. I get a phone call. Hold.
Speaker 1: A couple of hours later, how are you packing you bags?
Speaker 1: Because I'm kin I'm seeing a Davis Samson right now.
Speaker 1: He's packing pissed. No, No, here's why because he I
Speaker 1: had no idea that I have an eighteen year career
Speaker 1: in front of me. I had no I I had
Speaker 1: no idea of anything other than I loved Morgan Stanley.
Speaker 1: It was actually a couple of hours later my mother
Speaker 1: called me and said, you can't leave. I said, he
Speaker 1: fired me. I'm leaving. She said, you got to just
Speaker 1: spend the night and see what happens in the morning,
Speaker 1: because he's really he needs you to run the team.
Speaker 1: And I said, well, I'm doing it for thirty days.
Speaker 1: They you better find someone else, And sure enough, the
Speaker 1: next morning I did. I stayed. I got a call
Speaker 1: and he apologized. He said, going to the office. And
Speaker 1: I went into the office as a thirty one year
Speaker 1: old sort of president of a team. And it was
Speaker 1: such eyewash in the beginning I look back on that
Speaker 1: was such regret that I tried to prove from the
Speaker 1: minute I got there, not through my action, but through
Speaker 1: my words that I belonged there, and it was stupid
Speaker 1: of me. So I was calling meetings for six thirty
Speaker 1: am every day with all the executives, and I was
Speaker 1: working twenty hour days and trying to show them that
Speaker 1: even though I was the step step son of the owner,
Speaker 1: that I was going to outwork everybody and that I
Speaker 1: deserved to be there, that it wasn't nepotism. And it
Speaker 1: took me a while to realize that being good at
Speaker 1: my job was going to be the ultimate way to
Speaker 1: prove to people that I belong there, that other than
Speaker 1: there's no other way, there's no shortcut, and I knew
Speaker 1: that in my regular life, but it took me a
Speaker 1: minute to get there running a team, But I got
Speaker 1: there and it kept me there for I ran a
Speaker 1: team for eighteen years and five years in four years
Speaker 1: in he and my mother got divorced, and so for
Speaker 1: the last fourteen years of my career, he was just
Speaker 1: the owner of the team that I worked for. And
Speaker 1: the big difference from him being my stepfather to him
Speaker 1: not be my stepfather is that we each lawyered up
Speaker 1: during contract negotiations is a lot to impact. There were
Speaker 1: certain times during my career when I said to him,
Speaker 1: if you don't do this, I'm going to leave. And
Speaker 1: there were certain times when he said, if you don't
Speaker 1: except what I'm doing, I'm going to have you leave.
Speaker 1: Because I had some issues with some of his managers.
Speaker 1: Uh he had we hired and fire it I think
Speaker 1: seventy nine managers in eighteen years. And uh, he just
Speaker 1: whenever there was a loss. Basically, he was the type
Speaker 1: of owner, which is really like every owner, where when
Speaker 1: there's a loss on the field, there is someone to blame. Period.
Speaker 1: There's got to be someone to blame, and and that's
Speaker 1: really not accurate. Sometimes you just lose to a better team.
Speaker 1: Sometimes you just lose because that's how sports goes. And
Speaker 1: he owners have a hard time getting into that rhythm.
Speaker 1: And that is one of the big problems with impestuous owners,
Speaker 1: right they make decisions with emotion and they expect to
Speaker 1: win every game, and then you don't stick to your
Speaker 1: plan and then you lose more So that was part
Speaker 1: of the biggest issue I had. Good do it good,
Speaker 1: do it, get down to do it good. Hey youre
Speaker 1: are Why did you get that T shirt? You mean
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Speaker 1: out to our guys seven O four a shot. But yeah,
Speaker 1: you can go on, buy you a T shirt, subscribe
Speaker 1: to as wherever you listen to podcasts. How do you
Speaker 1: compare corporate sports compared to corporate America? How does it vary?
Speaker 1: So the public side is the biggest difference. So I
Speaker 1: I do my job, whether it was at Morgan Stanley
Speaker 1: or News Travels fast, and I didn't have people criticizing me.
Speaker 1: I didn't have everybody in the world thinking they could
Speaker 1: do the job better than I could. I didn't have
Speaker 1: to deal with the media. I didn't have to deal
Speaker 1: with people thinking it was a public company when it
Speaker 1: was a private company. And I think that often people
Speaker 1: forget that that sports teams are private and it's not
Speaker 1: your right as a fan to know everything because you're
Speaker 1: a fan. And that's tough to say to people sometimes
Speaker 1: because they assume that it is their right. And you've
Speaker 1: seen a lot of that now with with people upset
Speaker 1: with payrolls for various teams, people thinking that billionaire owners
Speaker 1: are not losing money, they're making money, and there's a
Speaker 1: big disconnect between owners think that you should know, and
Speaker 1: what you think you should know? What is a fan
Speaker 1: a customer? It's a great point. What is a fan
Speaker 1: legally right, let's just legally legally obligated because fans really
Speaker 1: believe that they deserve an explanation on why the team
Speaker 1: didn't get that final out, didn't get that first down.
Speaker 1: Why haven't they publicly spoken and told their customer what
Speaker 1: the plan is. I couldn't agree with you more. And
Speaker 1: it was the cause of great consternation in my dealings
Speaker 1: with the media, and ironic now that I'm on the
Speaker 1: media side, so it's funny that way. But I I
Speaker 1: really understood what the purpose of PR was, and I
Speaker 1: would fight with my PR people often because they wanted
Speaker 1: more information out there than I wanted out there, and
Speaker 1: I would spin information the way I wanted to spend
Speaker 1: it because I was trying to manipulate the customers into
Speaker 1: them believing what I wanted them to believe, which is
Speaker 1: it depends what the situation was. Give us a situation,
Speaker 1: because I just I find this intriguing, right, And and
Speaker 1: here's why. Here in Carolina we had an owner who
Speaker 1: you know, sold the team. There was some success. He
Speaker 1: brought the team he brought the franchise just like he
Speaker 1: brought the franchise here. They loved him. He actually, him
Speaker 1: and his son Mark created the PSL format. They created
Speaker 1: the format of what every organization now has PSL. Right,
Speaker 1: Mark Rederson created that him and him and his team.
Speaker 1: And then I had to convince the league, and the
Speaker 1: league was like, if you can make it work, sure,
Speaker 1: and everybody's been doing it, so you have that. So
Speaker 1: you have an owner who brought something, and then now
Speaker 1: a new owner where the previous owner didn't talk to
Speaker 1: the media either, right, he didn't feel that he had to.
Speaker 1: He he deserved to explain why his team sucked. I
Speaker 1: mean it was very It's very clear if you watch
Speaker 1: any football you know I was on that one and
Speaker 1: fifteen team. It was very clear why we sucked. We sucked, right.
Speaker 1: We weren't very good. We had some clear deficiencies, didn't
Speaker 1: have a franchise quarterback, offensive line wasn't very good, our
Speaker 1: defense was pretty good, but it was aging. Right. We
Speaker 1: had some young talent, but you know, are are starting
Speaker 1: running back. Uh Tim Biakatuga, who was fantastic in college,
Speaker 1: was pretty good in the prose, sustained some some injuries,
Speaker 1: and they felt that the owners should tell them what
Speaker 1: they obviously already see. For the for the for the
Speaker 1: two and a half hours in the stadium are on television, right,
Speaker 1: and so they want they feel like they should they
Speaker 1: deserve an explanation. Again, what was the customer legally? What
Speaker 1: should they legally get right, because they do believe that
Speaker 1: they have every right to know everything. Yeah, Legally, when
Speaker 1: you buy a ticket, you are promised to get entrance
Speaker 1: into a facility if you follow the rules of that facility,
Speaker 1: if you wear what they tell you to wear, if
Speaker 1: you don't say what they tell you not to say.
Speaker 1: It is a private area where you are gaining access
Speaker 1: by paying money to gain access to that area. But
Speaker 1: but the area reserves the right to eliminate you any second.
Speaker 1: They want. All of that, it's all the back of
Speaker 1: the ticket man. Those lawyers are paid for a reason,
Speaker 1: and so legally nothing, that's the bottom line. You're not
Speaker 1: guaranteed victories. Don't be ridiculous. Can you imagine if we
Speaker 1: guaranteed fans, hey, we're gonna win ninety games this year,
Speaker 1: and if not, we'll give your money backs. Mac After
Speaker 1: doing all that was, what was next? What what did
Speaker 1: you do when I ended up after you're saying after
Speaker 1: my career? No, no, no, just you know you got
Speaker 1: through obviously the unfortunate divorce. What's your what's your? Folks?
Speaker 1: You're working there. Uh, you're showing people that you're the
Speaker 1: hardest worker, burning people on both fans of the of
Speaker 1: the candle, right, and just sitting there, you in corporate America.
Speaker 1: You're telling you're telling the fans what they don't want
Speaker 1: to hear. You're trying to manipulate them, you know, I mean,
Speaker 1: what do you do next? I mean, and that's in
Speaker 1: the first you know, that's in the first eight five years. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was. And we won the World Series in those
Speaker 1: first four years. We wanted in two thousand three, and
Speaker 1: then I spent the rest of my career chasing and
Speaker 1: amy because it felt so good. All I ever wanted
Speaker 1: was to win one ring, and after I won one ring,
Speaker 1: all I ever wanted was to win two. And I
Speaker 1: will never forget the feeling after winning. And I was
Speaker 1: struck by how quickly I wanted to win again. And
Speaker 1: I thought, when you climb the mountain and you get
Speaker 1: to the summit, that I would stand there and take
Speaker 1: pictures and I would revel in the accomplishment. What I
Speaker 1: was doing was looking forward to the next summit already,
Speaker 1: And that was a terrible moment for me. Actually. And
Speaker 1: on October three, after we beat the Yankees and Yankee Stadium,
Speaker 1: I walked onto the field after we had celebrated the
Speaker 1: clubhouse and the stadium was empty. ESPN was doing its
Speaker 1: post game and left field bleachers, and I looked around
Speaker 1: and I said, I just want this feeling again. It
Speaker 1: was like an addiction, and it made me so angry
Speaker 1: that I didn't allow myself to enjoy it. So during
Speaker 1: the World Series parade, I missed half the parade negotiating
Speaker 1: to get a new ballpark in Miami. Instead of telling
Speaker 1: the public officials, I'm busy, we'll meet tomorrow and enjoy
Speaker 1: a parade, I said, no, I'm gonna still be the
Speaker 1: hardest worker. I'm not going to take a minute to
Speaker 1: enjoy this. And I worked through the World Series parade
Speaker 1: in Fort Lauderdale terrible. And you work through to get
Speaker 1: a new stadium, yes, to make more money. Because when
Speaker 1: we started in Florida, we were playing where the Dolphins play.
Speaker 1: You should know, right, you played on the dirt. That
Speaker 1: was me terrible and we hated it. We hated as
Speaker 1: much as you did. We hated it because after every
Speaker 1: football game the field was torn up by the cleats
Speaker 1: and and you guys didn't want to be tackled on
Speaker 1: the dirt. Nope, I mean the whole thing was bad.
Speaker 1: I mean it was you got tackled on the dirt.
Speaker 1: It was you know, guys were getting infections and all
Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. It was bad. So Wayne Heyzinga,
Speaker 1: who owned the Dolphins, told us we needed to get
Speaker 1: out of there. He wouldn't lease us the ballpark anymore,
Speaker 1: the stadium. Then he sold the team to Stephen Ross,
Speaker 1: the current owner of the Dolphins, who said get out
Speaker 1: of here. And so we went to the public and said, listen,
Speaker 1: if you don't help us finance and new stadium, the
Speaker 1: team's gonna leave. We'll go to Texas, or we'll go
Speaker 1: to San Antonio or Vegas or Portland. We're going somewhere,
Speaker 1: but we're not saying here. And we ended up negotiating
Speaker 1: a public deal, not as good as the one the
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills just got, but not bad. And we then
Speaker 1: started construction of Marlin's Park, which opened in two thousand twelve.
Speaker 1: So you get that they switched teams. What happens? You help,
Speaker 1: You helped negotiate all of this stuff and then what
Speaker 1: So in two thousand and sixteen, we really thought that
Speaker 1: we had a team that could win. And uh we
Speaker 1: had a great outfield with Jean Carlos Stanton and Christian
Speaker 1: Yelloch and Marcelo Zuna, and we had a great young
Speaker 1: pitcher named Jose Fernandez, who unfortunately died in a tragic
Speaker 1: boating accident on September two thousand and sixteen. And not
Speaker 1: long after that, the owner, Jeffrey walked into my office
Speaker 1: and said, I don't want to do this anymore, sell
Speaker 1: the team. And I said okay, and so I then
Speaker 1: for the next year worked on drumming up bids from
Speaker 1: Derek Jeter and a Rod and Tag Romney and anyone
Speaker 1: else I could find to get someone to completely overpay
Speaker 1: for the Marlins, which Derek Jeter did by like five
Speaker 1: million dollars. Uh, it closed, which was hard to believe.
Speaker 1: I was like Jesse Eisenberg who played Mark Zuckerberg in
Speaker 1: the movie The Social Network. Did you ever see that movie?
Speaker 1: So at the end of the movie, did any of
Speaker 1: you see that movie not about Facebook, it's the one
Speaker 1: about Facebook anyway. The end of the movie is hitting
Speaker 1: refresh because he wants to get a girl to to
Speaker 1: be his friend on Facebook. So he's hitting refreshed trying
Speaker 1: to see if she accepted his friend request. That was
Speaker 1: me in October one of two thousand seventeen, hitting refreshed
Speaker 1: to see if the money got transferred into the bank
Speaker 1: account from the sale. Because the minute it hit I
Speaker 1: walked out of the stadium, Derek Jeter walked past me.
Speaker 1: He walked in because he was taking my office, and
Speaker 1: I never turned back. So you knew sooner? Is that happy?
Speaker 1: You're out? Oh? It was clear that I was going
Speaker 1: to be let go, although I was let go semi
Speaker 1: famously through a text alert. Is how I found out.
Speaker 1: I got an ESPN text alert on my phone that
Speaker 1: that I was fired as the president of Miami Marlins.
Speaker 1: So I called up Jeter and I said, hey, am
Speaker 1: I fired? And he said, oh yeah, I meant to
Speaker 1: call you. I'm sorry. I said, all right, no worries, man,
Speaker 1: thank you, see bye. So that he was hogging all
Speaker 1: of damn avocados U full circle. I like it. Yeah, well, hey,
Speaker 1: I know, you gotta go listen. We gotta have you
Speaker 1: back on here. Boy. You look he's spunky. I like this.
Speaker 1: I like I can talk Sparky. It looks like Sparky
Speaker 1: is the nickname given to me by Jack McKeon, our manager,
Speaker 1: because he said I was the spark plug of the organization.
Speaker 1: Because this is me, this is what I'm like. I
Speaker 1: have high energy, and I have a lot of fun.
Speaker 1: I work really hard, I party really hard, and life
Speaker 1: is short, so don't waste it. What people sometimes look
Speaker 1: at me, and the biggest mistake they make is they
Speaker 1: think that I've always been successful. And I explained to them,
Speaker 1: and I tell them in very great detail all the
Speaker 1: times I failed, and I have failed so much. And
Speaker 1: it sounds trite, but my failures are the greatest things
Speaker 1: that ever happened to me, because I was able to
Speaker 1: always get off the mat and and and the reason
Speaker 1: I did is because I always had something to prove.
Speaker 1: Maybe it's been short and being cut by my freshman
Speaker 1: basketball coach. Maybe it's not getting the job I wanted
Speaker 1: out of law school. Maybe it's not accomplishing things I
Speaker 1: wanted to accomplish, both often on the field. But I've
Speaker 1: always wanted more, and there's a reward for wanting more,
Speaker 1: but only if you work to get it. Favorite failure.
Speaker 1: You mentioned all the failures you have. What's your favorite one?
Speaker 1: The most important one is when I got rejected by
Speaker 1: the Manhattan District Attorney's Office. That's all what I wanted
Speaker 1: to do out of law school, and I made it
Speaker 1: through three rounds of interviews. I was a sure fire
Speaker 1: to get the job I had interned there. It was
Speaker 1: a slam dunk, and I never really had major adversity
Speaker 1: because I would work to get what i'd want and
Speaker 1: then i'd get it. And I thought i'd get the job.
Speaker 1: And when I got the back, then it was an
Speaker 1: envelope a letter, and the letter said, we are sorry
Speaker 1: to say that you have been eliminated from consideration to
Speaker 1: be an assistant District Attorney in the Manhattan District Attorney's Office.
Speaker 1: And it stunned me, absolutely stunned me in my tracks,
Speaker 1: and I reveled in the failure for a week, and
Speaker 1: then I started the business in Europe who got a
Speaker 1: who got the job? You know who got the job? There?
Speaker 1: They that's the joke of it, right, They hire fifty
Speaker 1: assistant district attorneys and my best friend from law school
Speaker 1: got a job there and I didn't. And it never
Speaker 1: occurred to me that he would succeed and I would fail. MS.
Speaker 1: We had to bring it back, bro, all right, let
Speaker 1: you go appreciate it. I'd love to Hey, thank you
Speaker 1: guys so much. Thank you. You are a unique person.
Speaker 1: You are well worth it, you are competent, and most
Speaker 1: of all, your lovable. I'm Steve Smith Singer, I'm Gerard
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