WEBVTT - David Samson

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<v Speaker 1>This is cut to It with Steve Smith Senior at

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<v Speaker 1>production of The Black Effect and I Heart Radio. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>Steve Smith Senior and i' and this is cut to it.

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<v Speaker 1>Good do it, Good do it. They're getting down to

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<v Speaker 1>do it. Good do it. We asked the questions you

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<v Speaker 1>always want to know, but no one ever asked, let's

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<v Speaker 1>cut to it. You ain't heard am about it, then

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<v Speaker 1>we're about to let you know. It's all. Welcome to

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<v Speaker 1>the cut to a podcast. Man, it's a guy who

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<v Speaker 1>um man, he's done everything he's been uh Morgan Stanley, investor,

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<v Speaker 1>UM executive vice president of the formally Montreal exposed. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>and you just done everything right and then now you're

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<v Speaker 1>working as a baseball analyst. I just want to say,

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<v Speaker 1>welcome to the Cut to a Podcast. David SAMs. I

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate that. I'm only fifty four, so I would say

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<v Speaker 1>I'm only on the sixth hole, so I have not

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<v Speaker 1>done everything at all. I'm that perspective. I like that

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just getting started. I like, I'm not gonna argue

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<v Speaker 1>with you. I'm sorry. Yeah, Well, um, are you ready

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<v Speaker 1>for this? Oh? I am ready? Give me all you got? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>that's all you're gonna get there, all right, here we go,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, hey if you want aloud? Oh would you

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<v Speaker 1>keep working in your current position or profession? Yeah. So

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<v Speaker 1>I love what I do, and I do it because

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<v Speaker 1>I love it, So I have I've been lucky, and

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<v Speaker 1>that after law school, I started a company over in

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<v Speaker 1>Europe delivering newspapers and I was twenty five years old,

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<v Speaker 1>and that I loved every moment I was there, even

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<v Speaker 1>when the Internet started and all of a sudden nobody

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<v Speaker 1>would buy regular papers anymore. I said, all right, let

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<v Speaker 1>me try something else. So I went to Wall Street.

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<v Speaker 1>And when I was on Wall Street, I loved it.

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<v Speaker 1>I was so proud to be at Morgan Stanley and

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<v Speaker 1>enjoyed the work I was doing. And then I moved

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<v Speaker 1>into baseball, and I loved it. I had a great

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<v Speaker 1>time running the Expos, and then I had a great

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<v Speaker 1>time for sixteen years with the Marlins Wonder World Series

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<v Speaker 1>and built the ballpark and helped the owners sell the

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<v Speaker 1>team to Jeter, who just got fired. And I love

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<v Speaker 1>doing that baseball. I was super excited to see what

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<v Speaker 1>the next chapter was, and I got an agent, and

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<v Speaker 1>then I got a job at CBS, and I have

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<v Speaker 1>my own show called Nothing Personal with David Sampson, where

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<v Speaker 1>I can talk about whatever I want. David, Um, this

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<v Speaker 1>is my show. Slow down like this just the icebreaker,

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<v Speaker 1>bro I don't I don't like we was done like

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<v Speaker 1>he don't let me at all. That's a record a

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<v Speaker 1>part as right now. We just everything right listen, I'm driving.

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<v Speaker 1>Get your ass in the back seat. Okay, you ain't tall.

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<v Speaker 1>I looked you up, so you were you gonna you

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<v Speaker 1>got a little little car seat. Just buckle up, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>we got your crustable, Well, get your apple sauce. Just hey,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll get there. I'll tell you when we get there. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, Paul's all right, here we go. What kind

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<v Speaker 1>of dog never bites a full one? No hot dog? Bro. See,

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<v Speaker 1>we're just in an icebreaker section right there. We're just

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<v Speaker 1>trying to loosen you up. Okay, you're you're trying to

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<v Speaker 1>care cancer. Were just trying to we just I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I asked what you going a lot of He's like no,

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<v Speaker 1>And here's why, man, I just I was gonna say

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<v Speaker 1>I would still doing my job because I think I've

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<v Speaker 1>already hit the lotto. But you didn't even give me

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<v Speaker 1>a chance to because you went off way yonder. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it was I got I was like, damn,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't ask him about about when he founded his

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<v Speaker 1>Companye Travels Fast, but he already went into it. We

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<v Speaker 1>was gonna use in London. Damn it can you can

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<v Speaker 1>you get on the plane first? All right? What have

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<v Speaker 1>you given up on something? When I stopped growing, I

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<v Speaker 1>gave up on being able to dunk on a regulation hoop.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm right there with you. Hey, I'm right there with you.

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<v Speaker 1>How tall are you? Actually? Five five? I'm five nine

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<v Speaker 1>three four? I'm five four and three quarters. Now there

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<v Speaker 1>the podcast perfect because you always got a round up.

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<v Speaker 1>You got around up. He did. He got convicted. He

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<v Speaker 1>was Actually it's one of the eight, he said. But

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<v Speaker 1>then when I said, he was like, damn, I'm convicted?

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<v Speaker 1>All right? Hey, where are you from in a place

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<v Speaker 1>you call your hometown? I was born in Milwaukee, Wisconsin,

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<v Speaker 1>and New York is my home? Do tail? What? Why

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<v Speaker 1>are you claiming New York? Well? I moved there when

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<v Speaker 1>I was five and I lived there really the entire

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<v Speaker 1>my entire life, except Florida for eighteen years when I

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<v Speaker 1>was running the Marlins. Well, I mean you kind of

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<v Speaker 1>stumped me on now because I was really gonna say, like,

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<v Speaker 1>how was it in Wisconsin? I've been in Wisconsin a

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<v Speaker 1>few times. Yeah, how's your upbringing in Wisconsin? How that's

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<v Speaker 1>why they moved to New York? Hey, what you remember? Well?

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<v Speaker 1>My upbringing Wisconsin was fraught with parents who were fighting

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<v Speaker 1>so much they finally divorced. And then I moved to

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<v Speaker 1>New York with my mom. But I went back to

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<v Speaker 1>Wisconsin for summer camp. I went back for college. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a badger, so I happened to love Wisconsin. Oh. You

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<v Speaker 1>you guys just got a new office coordinator who used

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<v Speaker 1>uh Bobby Ingram. He used to be my wife receiver's coach.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a good dude. So in New York, how was

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<v Speaker 1>your upbringing? Lucky? I need some texture on that. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I just I don't want to talk too much, So

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<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm going now to now you can Now you

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<v Speaker 1>can talk. Now you can go the ice breakers. You

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<v Speaker 1>you can't tell me your life story after the first question.

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<v Speaker 1>I was born on third base, but knew I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>hit a triple, and I've spent my whole life trying

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<v Speaker 1>to make sure that I earned my way home. Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>that was all that was, like the very poetic tupac

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<v Speaker 1>esc I's trying to figure out what was I born

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<v Speaker 1>on first or second? I was born in seven? N God,

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<v Speaker 1>this is about to be hilarious. I like David. He

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<v Speaker 1>is spunky. You got so fire too. You've caused a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of trouble your life average, Yeah, but you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>I've never been punched and I've never thrown a punch

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<v Speaker 1>in my whole life because I've been able to talk

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<v Speaker 1>my way out of every pickle I've been in, and

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<v Speaker 1>there been a lot of them. Really, when's the last

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<v Speaker 1>time you've been in a pickle? The coast? Is the

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<v Speaker 1>last time you at the grocery store three days ago?

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<v Speaker 1>Know what what happened? Was it in the produce section

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<v Speaker 1>trying to get those melons? So listen, if you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>feel every goddamn apocado, then you're gonna have to buy

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<v Speaker 1>them all. And I'm saying, is that pre COVID or

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<v Speaker 1>post covid? What is it? What is it? What is

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<v Speaker 1>this anchor? I love your heads at pre COVID. For me,

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<v Speaker 1>I've been the hand sanitizer guy. People are just catching

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<v Speaker 1>up to me now. So I've been a hand sandy guy.

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<v Speaker 1>In my entire life, I'm not a big germ guy.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was in a job where I had to

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<v Speaker 1>shake hands with people every day all day. So I

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<v Speaker 1>was doing Howie Mandel before he was, I was a

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<v Speaker 1>major fist guy. All right, let's go back to these avocados.

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<v Speaker 1>Why so you I'm telling you this dude is a firecracker.

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<v Speaker 1>Why are you with people in the produce? What happened?

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<v Speaker 1>Because I'm trying to get It's simple. I'm trying to

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<v Speaker 1>get produced. I'm trying to get avocados and onions, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to get in and out right. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to ditherer. I've got shipped to do right. And

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<v Speaker 1>so there's people touching every bit of produce. Hold on,

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<v Speaker 1>hold on, Davis, do you understand if you just grabbed

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<v Speaker 1>the first one avocado, you can have avocado that is

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<v Speaker 1>not usable all And if you plan on using that

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<v Speaker 1>tonight and it is not right, you're disappointed. I can

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<v Speaker 1>choose an avocado with my eye. You can tell which

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<v Speaker 1>ones are softer and which ones aren't. That is incorrect,

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<v Speaker 1>and I disagree. Being a guy who cooks, you cannot tell.

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<v Speaker 1>Because I've I was like oh, I think that's a

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<v Speaker 1>good when I was like, wait a week till that

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<v Speaker 1>was ready. Or you get one that looks great and

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<v Speaker 1>you touching him and your damn hen and it almost

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<v Speaker 1>sinks into it. So how you know? I'm not lying? Though?

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<v Speaker 1>I know? But aren't you a courteous avocado picker? Do

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<v Speaker 1>you take up the entire section of the hassa avocados,

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<v Speaker 1>sort of covering it like batman as you try to

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<v Speaker 1>find the one you want, or do you stand a

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<v Speaker 1>one side and let a little five ft five guy

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<v Speaker 1>just get in a little bit on the right and

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<v Speaker 1>choose his own avocados? Which guy are you? Actually? I'm

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<v Speaker 1>the guy who does not want any confrontation and I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want you to hover over me, so I tried

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<v Speaker 1>to I try to give you the same courtesy that

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<v Speaker 1>you're giving me, which is I don't want to talk

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<v Speaker 1>to you, and I don't really care what you want

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about. I'm just in here to get my

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just trying to make tableside go out. No, No,

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<v Speaker 1>here's what I'm trying to do. I'm just I just

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<v Speaker 1>trying to do my hunty. I'm just trying to get

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<v Speaker 1>some honey. So I gotta do the honey dude list, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not interested in what you got going on. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not trying to invade in your privacy. I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>your assistance. Don't ask me where something is because I

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<v Speaker 1>don't work there. I don't have the outfit that looks

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<v Speaker 1>like I worked there. I don't. I don't, So I'm

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<v Speaker 1>the guy that sits over to the side. I actually

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes will put my card over there and walk over

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<v Speaker 1>so I could just grab what I need to grabbing

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<v Speaker 1>them back because I got a list of stuff I

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<v Speaker 1>need to get in get out. So okay, So you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you list on your phone or do you write it

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<v Speaker 1>on paper? If my wife texted, I'll have them on

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<v Speaker 1>my phone, but I prefer paper because I can check

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<v Speaker 1>it off, because you know, because you know, sometimes you

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<v Speaker 1>can't find everything at that one, you know, with with

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<v Speaker 1>food shortages and all that. You know, I don't understand.

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<v Speaker 1>But so you gotta go here and then go there,

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<v Speaker 1>and um, but I get a lot of a D

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<v Speaker 1>D in them in the grocery store, like I'm a ooh,

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<v Speaker 1>and I got like what's that? Oh that looks good. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I definitely can't go there when you're hungry. That's man,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't shot. Is there any worse feeling than getting

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<v Speaker 1>home thinking that you really did something good, that you

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<v Speaker 1>took care of the entire honeydoo list, and you missed

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<v Speaker 1>the most important thing you got you got the wrong thing, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>don't get that you're supposed to get the ten minute quick.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh it's not the thirty guy I've got, So I'll

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<v Speaker 1>just FaceTime listen. Is this the one that you want?

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<v Speaker 1>Or you know it's not making sure? Here's the worst.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like when there's like one little word that's off

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<v Speaker 1>but they say a particular brand, You're like, they don't

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<v Speaker 1>have that brand, and now you gotta pivot and you

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<v Speaker 1>gotta figure. You gotta make an executive decision. But then

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<v Speaker 1>you know the executive decision you mess up, then they

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<v Speaker 1>then you're gonna get mad. Then they you get mad

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<v Speaker 1>at them, Like I don't had to go. I got

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<v Speaker 1>the number one. I came home one day thinking I

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<v Speaker 1>was doing something so nice, buying some Starbucks Pikes Place

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<v Speaker 1>coffee from the grocery store, and so I see it

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<v Speaker 1>and there's not a lot of supply, so I buy

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<v Speaker 1>like the remaining four packages that are about the eight

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<v Speaker 1>inches high packages come back and show them. And then

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<v Speaker 1>I'm totally summarily dismissed, not like a huge thank you

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<v Speaker 1>and like, hey, do you want to go upstairs or something?

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<v Speaker 1>You realize that that's the caffeinated you got the decaf

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<v Speaker 1>And I said, where does it say that? See that?

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<v Speaker 1>And she's like, it's right there, you idiot. Well maybe

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<v Speaker 1>I went to Goodwill. Maybe you didn't clap nothing at

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<v Speaker 1>night at the time, My man, what do you say?

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<v Speaker 1>I said, yes I did. I was just alone at

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<v Speaker 1>the time. I didn't catch that last Here's why he

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<v Speaker 1>missed the decaf because it was probably on the top

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<v Speaker 1>shelf and he just grabbed it. Cut to it, un Blue,

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<v Speaker 1>what'd you stay up all night thinking of short chokes?

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<v Speaker 1>H I'm short too, so I communal space. I'm speaking

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<v Speaker 1>from experience. How do we get here? Hey? That's a

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<v Speaker 1>few Hey, that's a few times. I look around, like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>ain't boy catching me trying to jump up for this ship?

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<v Speaker 1>I saw Steve trying to get on. It's a boomerang,

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<v Speaker 1>bo you ain't catching me slipping. I'll be like favre

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<v Speaker 1>three words in the grocery store are excuse me? I

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<v Speaker 1>try to ask them to reach for something that I

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<v Speaker 1>can't reach this. Hey, I've been right there. Hey, my man,

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<v Speaker 1>your help. He's like, what do you need? I said,

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<v Speaker 1>man up there? A few times it's kind of like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, a few times you think they think they're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna say something, and then they know it's me and

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<v Speaker 1>they're like, yeah, I'm not rolling this dice. But I

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<v Speaker 1>know I'm short. I'm okay with it, doesn't bother me.

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<v Speaker 1>But you gonna catch me trying to jump up there

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<v Speaker 1>for that ship. I got time for that shot. But

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<v Speaker 1>in your own home, do you do that? Oh? Absolutely,

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<v Speaker 1>so I actually had something. I actually do have a

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<v Speaker 1>step stool in my closet because I my shoes up top.

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<v Speaker 1>But sometimes when I'm feeling good, I'll spring up there.

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<v Speaker 1>But here's the one time I did. I did. I

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<v Speaker 1>did it the other day. I springing up there and

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<v Speaker 1>got one the top box and otherwise came hit me

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<v Speaker 1>in the face. I said, that's what I need to

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<v Speaker 1>use the damn stool. I've had That exact thing happened

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<v Speaker 1>to me. Or what's worse is you jump up, one

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<v Speaker 1>of them comes down, but by accident you push one

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<v Speaker 1>of them further back. You have that I have step

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<v Speaker 1>stools in every closet and upstairs, downstairs, everywhere. But sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>it's just a game because I'm too lazy to get

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<v Speaker 1>the steps stool, so I jump up to get something

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<v Speaker 1>and then I end up getting the steps stool. See,

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<v Speaker 1>these are the intangibles that I'm sure you had running

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<v Speaker 1>an MLB franchise. Right here, this is where it came

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<v Speaker 1>into play. You should have seen me talking to Gean

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<v Speaker 1>Carlos Stanton. We had some fun times the two of us. Man. Listen,

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<v Speaker 1>I just let's just go right into your crazy career.

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<v Speaker 1>Like you know you said, first Company delivered an New

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<v Speaker 1>York Times Berry and also Wall Street Journal um to

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<v Speaker 1>Europe on the same day. Basis what why is what

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<v Speaker 1>is so unique about that? Because of people today, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>kids today, people today, technologists. It's just it's there. So

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<v Speaker 1>that doesn't sound like anything unique. Can have those three

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<v Speaker 1>tabs open seconds, I mean, you get you you can

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<v Speaker 1>have it on. You know, you can get Wall Street

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<v Speaker 1>Journal for free, you know, for for for a week

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<v Speaker 1>or thirty days and cancel it before they charge you.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know that I've done that several times. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>you are the target market. Are a million other people

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<v Speaker 1>who cancel stuff like the old Columbia House when you

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<v Speaker 1>get a few c ds and then cancel it ten

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<v Speaker 1>for one ninety nine. Yeah yeah, I remember. And then

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<v Speaker 1>if you try to steal get me. I canceled my

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<v Speaker 1>debit card and get a new one, so I know

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<v Speaker 1>all the tricks of the trade. Lost that one. You

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<v Speaker 1>can charge that new credit, can charge that old crack

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<v Speaker 1>to getting a new one. I'm talking. I want a

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<v Speaker 1>whole new number number moth yea. I will no cross over.

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<v Speaker 1>Remember when Netflix first started, and it was you got

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<v Speaker 1>you put movies in your queue and they would send

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<v Speaker 1>you DVDs. I get a new one, right, but you

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<v Speaker 1>could get a new one only when you returned one

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<v Speaker 1>that you watched. And sometimes you'd move stuff up the

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<v Speaker 1>queue because you really wanted to see that he had

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<v Speaker 1>to return something. People, it's just far and so thirty

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<v Speaker 1>years ago. I hate to say it to the audience,

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<v Speaker 1>but I do this on nothing personal all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>It's thirty years ago. The only way to get sports

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<v Speaker 1>scores in Europe with something called the International Herald Tribune,

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<v Speaker 1>which was a newspaper that was owned by both the

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<v Speaker 1>Washington Post in the New York Times, and the sports

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<v Speaker 1>part of that paper gave you scores of games that

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<v Speaker 1>were a day old. And so if you wanted scores

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<v Speaker 1>of your favorite team, who were only getting them a

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<v Speaker 1>day late, a day late from the state, or a

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<v Speaker 1>day late from Europe, because technically that would be two

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<v Speaker 1>days late. Oh I love for your heads at so

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<v Speaker 1>Sunday night scores would be in the Tuesday Herald Tribune

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<v Speaker 1>correct two days late. So in nineties seven, you you

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<v Speaker 1>did Morgan Stanley. However, in that four year spend, what

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<v Speaker 1>what did you learn and how did the business go?

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<v Speaker 1>And why you know? Did you sell? It? Just disappear?

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<v Speaker 1>Like tell me, tell me about it, like you start

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<v Speaker 1>sell company like that? And what I did is I

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<v Speaker 1>I went to a different city, just say Paris or

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<v Speaker 1>London or Geneva or Brussels, and I would go and

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<v Speaker 1>try to find Americans who are living there, like go

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<v Speaker 1>to chambers of commerce, and I would go to all

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<v Speaker 1>the hotels and I would deliver papers and have them

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<v Speaker 1>sold to their customers. And I even did home delivery

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<v Speaker 1>to ex pats who are living overseas. But think about

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<v Speaker 1>the business. All my inventory was either sold or thrown

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<v Speaker 1>away every week because when you're doing the Sunday Times,

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<v Speaker 1>once the papers are delivered, you're onto the next newspaper.

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<v Speaker 1>And when I started doing daily deliveries, I never had

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<v Speaker 1>excess inventory because you buy the papers that you know

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna sell and then you're done. And what happened

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<v Speaker 1>is in that period, the Internet really got going, and

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<v Speaker 1>I summarily dismissed it because I made so much money

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<v Speaker 1>from people who loved getting the New York Times inc

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<v Speaker 1>on their fingers when they were reading the paper. And

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<v Speaker 1>I said, no one's gonna read the newspaper on a screen.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just not gonna happen. And I was in Asia

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<v Speaker 1>starting to deliver papers there, and I flew on a plane.

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<v Speaker 1>Talk about being gregarious. I flew on a plane and

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<v Speaker 1>started talking with the guy who worked at Morgan Stanley

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<v Speaker 1>and I told him what I was doing, and I was,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, twenty eight years old, and he said, listen,

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<v Speaker 1>if you ever want to come to Wall Street, just

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<v Speaker 1>call me. So when I saw that this business was

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<v Speaker 1>gonna end, literally gonna disappear, I gave him a call

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<v Speaker 1>and he hired me. So I was the only non

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<v Speaker 1>NBA to work on that side of Morgan Stanley and

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<v Speaker 1>had a great, great time. I love cut to It

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<v Speaker 1>us wherever you listen to podcasts. I got all my

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<v Speaker 1>answers questions, Um, yeah, I got all my questions answered.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I'm here for, a brother, cut to a

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<v Speaker 1>podcast dot Com. What led you to hop on an

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<v Speaker 1>airplane to go to Asia when you were doing so

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<v Speaker 1>well in in Brussels and London, all those all those

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<v Speaker 1>different places that were transient through um they do the

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<v Speaker 1>year old um train and through through the different avenues.

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<v Speaker 1>It's kind of like living in the South where you

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<v Speaker 1>know live. We live here in Charlotte and you go,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, growing up in l A, I go five hours,

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<v Speaker 1>I've been twenty miles outside, you know, with traffic, I've

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<v Speaker 1>been twenty miles outside of my house. But here in Charlotte.

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<v Speaker 1>You go, you know, you go two or three hours.

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<v Speaker 1>You're depending on which route you go to South Carolina.

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<v Speaker 1>You can hit Virginia, you can hit Tennessee, you can

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<v Speaker 1>hit Atlanta, I mean Georgia. So there's so many different places.

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<v Speaker 1>What what led you to jump on a plane to

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<v Speaker 1>go to Asia when you have so many different people?

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<v Speaker 1>You still have Italy, um, all these different places. What

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<v Speaker 1>why Asia? Because someone approached me and said, can you

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<v Speaker 1>help with home delivery of newspapers in Asia? You seem

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<v Speaker 1>to know how to get this done, and so I

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<v Speaker 1>was hired to go there and build up a company

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<v Speaker 1>in Asia. So did you eventually sell your company or

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<v Speaker 1>just it went away? It just disappears. So when you

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<v Speaker 1>stop think about it, I was I was. I was

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<v Speaker 1>by myself, and I had newspapers that I would buy

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<v Speaker 1>from the New York Times and then have them delivered

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<v Speaker 1>to Kennedy, put on a cargo plane and fly to

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<v Speaker 1>Europe and then from Paris they fly all over the

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<v Speaker 1>country in the world. And one day I stopped putting

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<v Speaker 1>the papers on the plane. So it's crazy. The way

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<v Speaker 1>that technology is advanced. You were physically delivering, so you

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<v Speaker 1>were so you were in London. Okay, I'm a visual guy.

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<v Speaker 1>So you were in London, you had a contact in

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<v Speaker 1>New York. Yes, it's a it's a great story which

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<v Speaker 1>we may or may not have time for. But yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I had a contact with the New York Times circulation

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<v Speaker 1>department that got the papers delivered from on Saturday nights

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<v Speaker 1>from the printing press right to Kennedy Airport and then

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<v Speaker 1>Kenny Airport. I mean there are pieces of paper they

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<v Speaker 1>how did they get on the plane. They were putting

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<v Speaker 1>palettes and they were put on Air France flight double

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<v Speaker 1>O nine which left at nine p m. S Saturday

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<v Speaker 1>night and landed at eight thirty a m. Sunday morning.

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<v Speaker 1>And then they get picked up by a newspaper delivery

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<v Speaker 1>truck and delivered to hotels and houses and apartments in Parish.

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<v Speaker 1>And some of the papers would connect to other cities

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<v Speaker 1>because Air France would fly from Paris as their hub

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<v Speaker 1>like FedEx Uses Memphis to all the other different places

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<v Speaker 1>in Europe. And so obviously were with pairs. You you

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<v Speaker 1>had some people in Um and some of the some

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<v Speaker 1>of the French colonies as well. Um one of that

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<v Speaker 1>paper as well. So on what was that so Um logos,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, different different African nations. Now we're uh French

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<v Speaker 1>colonies as well. So I never expanded to Africa, but

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<v Speaker 1>I did. I did Europe and Asia. Only what I

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<v Speaker 1>did I expanded into I went from the Sunday Times,

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<v Speaker 1>then I started doing the Daily Times. And you have

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<v Speaker 1>to think about it when you're in a mayor reckon

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<v Speaker 1>living abroad and you can wake up in the morning

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<v Speaker 1>or in some places it didn't get there U till

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<v Speaker 1>the afternoon. But even if you come back for your

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<v Speaker 1>CS to and there's Today's New York Times at your door,

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<v Speaker 1>you have to realize that was pretty cool for people

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<v Speaker 1>because they couldn't just go open a pagage on the

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<v Speaker 1>Internet and it wasn't there. There was big time out there.

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<v Speaker 1>You're talking about two and a half hours, nobody doing nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have emergency CS to you in trouble and

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<v Speaker 1>here we are two and you're about to read the

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<v Speaker 1>news and the main a verse. That's how fast things

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<v Speaker 1>have changed. It's amazing. It makes me think about what

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<v Speaker 1>will be thirty years from now, because they'll look at

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<v Speaker 1>this the way we look at thirty years ago. It's

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<v Speaker 1>how they'll look at us in thirty years bringing up

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<v Speaker 1>on a website is about to be obsolete. Really, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>just getting a hangar, you know, but it's think about

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<v Speaker 1>He's talking about just delivering papers and his company went

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<v Speaker 1>away could put because technology advances. Yeah, so you go

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<v Speaker 1>to Morgan Stanley, Um, what year? I mean? I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I know, ye one more. What month? Are you asking

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<v Speaker 1>me something twenty five years ago? I'm trying. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. I just say that question. I've never been

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<v Speaker 1>asked that question. I'm pretty I am a detailed interviewer.

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<v Speaker 1>So I just wanted to know, well, so cool I was.

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<v Speaker 1>I wore a black pinstripe suit to my first day

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<v Speaker 1>with a a white shirt and a red tie. And

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<v Speaker 1>I wore that because I thought that that would be

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<v Speaker 1>like the proper Wall Street thing, and it had like

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<v Speaker 1>elephants on it, because I wanted them to know that

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<v Speaker 1>I'd be going after elephants and trying to make a

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<v Speaker 1>ton of money for myself and for everyone else. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not sure that that detail was appreciated at the time,

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<v Speaker 1>but it ended up being like the movie Walsh Um

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<v Speaker 1>Wolf of Wall Street, except I never met Margot Robbie

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<v Speaker 1>and I never did Coke. Rather than that. It was

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<v Speaker 1>exactly like that. I'm glad you said all that because

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, that's what I thought about. So here's

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<v Speaker 1>here's another textual thing you probably don't What kind of

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<v Speaker 1>shoes did you have? A Ferragamos, the ones with the

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<v Speaker 1>buckles on the top. How old were they? Though? Great?

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<v Speaker 1>I love for your heads? At uh, they were brand new.

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<v Speaker 1>And the reason I know that is I didn't realize

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<v Speaker 1>that you should scuff shoes before wearing them. YEA little

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<v Speaker 1>as chicken run around office like this, Look how his

0:26:37.480 --> 0:26:40.520
<v Speaker 1>dress and he got some damn new shoes. Oh no,

0:26:41.440 --> 0:26:48.160
<v Speaker 1>don't play. And he's still till you make it. That's

0:26:48.200 --> 0:26:50.679
<v Speaker 1>why I asked, because you seem like the dude you're

0:26:50.720 --> 0:26:53.399
<v Speaker 1>gonna go all out. He's like, look, I may not

0:26:53.560 --> 0:26:55.200
<v Speaker 1>know what I'm doing on the first day, but damn,

0:26:55.200 --> 0:26:59.359
<v Speaker 1>and I'm look like like that's awesome. All right. So

0:26:59.520 --> 0:27:02.800
<v Speaker 1>nineteen seven, I'm fresh, I'm fresh heading into my senior

0:27:02.880 --> 0:27:06.199
<v Speaker 1>year or coming out of my senior year community college

0:27:06.240 --> 0:27:13.720
<v Speaker 1>and you over there investing people's money. Yes, okay. What

0:27:13.800 --> 0:27:23.040
<v Speaker 1>was the biggest challenge, and Morgan Stanley, for you, it

0:27:23.119 --> 0:27:28.960
<v Speaker 1>was navigating around the compliance department because I had clients

0:27:29.200 --> 0:27:32.000
<v Speaker 1>who wanted to do aggressive trades, and we were doing

0:27:32.760 --> 0:27:37.240
<v Speaker 1>collateral swaps and all sorts of ways to diversify because

0:27:37.280 --> 0:27:40.920
<v Speaker 1>at that time, people were getting concentrated equity positions, meaning

0:27:40.960 --> 0:27:43.679
<v Speaker 1>they were selling their company and getting a huge amount

0:27:43.760 --> 0:27:47.120
<v Speaker 1>of stock in the company that acquired them, and they'd

0:27:47.160 --> 0:27:50.199
<v Speaker 1>be rich, but only with one stock. And I would say, hey,

0:27:50.359 --> 0:27:52.199
<v Speaker 1>And the way I got clients is by reading the

0:27:52.240 --> 0:27:55.640
<v Speaker 1>paper ironically, and you read about deals that are happening,

0:27:55.840 --> 0:27:58.879
<v Speaker 1>and you cold call. I would make over a hundred

0:27:58.880 --> 0:28:02.719
<v Speaker 1>calls a day. David Sampson with Morgan Stanley. Oh, because

0:28:03.440 --> 0:28:06.080
<v Speaker 1>that's the best way. I'm a numbers guy. I need

0:28:06.119 --> 0:28:09.439
<v Speaker 1>to get knows. And that's why I never got offended.

0:28:09.440 --> 0:28:12.119
<v Speaker 1>The reason I was more successful than most people is

0:28:12.160 --> 0:28:15.760
<v Speaker 1>when they would get knows, they'd be despondent and they

0:28:16.040 --> 0:28:18.760
<v Speaker 1>spend forever trying to convince the nose to be a yes.

0:28:19.359 --> 0:28:22.199
<v Speaker 1>And my greatest skill is that I was able to

0:28:22.400 --> 0:28:24.800
<v Speaker 1>say to the person who said no to me, thank you.

0:28:24.800 --> 0:28:26.720
<v Speaker 1>You're giving me now more time to move on to

0:28:26.840 --> 0:28:29.680
<v Speaker 1>the next call, and on one call closer to a yes.

0:28:31.480 --> 0:28:37.520
<v Speaker 1>So just out you just told him no, they said,

0:28:37.760 --> 0:28:39.680
<v Speaker 1>and he was like you know what, you gotta play

0:28:39.720 --> 0:28:43.520
<v Speaker 1>your strengths, so speaking, to play your strengths. So how

0:28:43.560 --> 0:28:47.960
<v Speaker 1>do you then transition from Morgan Stanley to walking into

0:28:48.000 --> 0:28:51.280
<v Speaker 1>the Montreal and the Montreal Exposed front office? Um in

0:28:51.400 --> 0:28:55.680
<v Speaker 1>such a high ranking position? What was that? Like? Brother?

0:28:55.760 --> 0:28:57.360
<v Speaker 1>Like me? I had to go into ad to work

0:28:57.440 --> 0:28:59.560
<v Speaker 1>for NBA franchise. But I gotta go in as an

0:28:59.600 --> 0:29:06.120
<v Speaker 1>unpaid turn. I'm going in at C suite. You gotta

0:29:06.240 --> 0:29:12.680
<v Speaker 1>keep up? Whoa being born? That? Okay? Well, so in

0:29:12.840 --> 0:29:17.760
<v Speaker 1>nineteen uh in maybe if you're gonna ask, I'm gonna

0:29:17.840 --> 0:29:22.600
<v Speaker 1>say it was January of nine. Jeffrey Loria, who at

0:29:22.640 --> 0:29:24.520
<v Speaker 1>that time was married to my mother, so he was

0:29:24.560 --> 0:29:27.680
<v Speaker 1>my stepfather. He called me at Morgan Stanley and he said,

0:29:28.120 --> 0:29:30.880
<v Speaker 1>I want to buy the Montreal expos Can you help

0:29:30.960 --> 0:29:34.640
<v Speaker 1>me do it? And I said to him, I'd I'd

0:29:34.680 --> 0:29:37.480
<v Speaker 1>be happy to help you. Here's my rate. This is

0:29:37.520 --> 0:29:39.880
<v Speaker 1>what I make per day, and this is what you'll

0:29:39.880 --> 0:29:42.640
<v Speaker 1>have to pay me because there's only X number of

0:29:42.680 --> 0:29:45.320
<v Speaker 1>hours in the day and if you're taking me away

0:29:45.360 --> 0:29:47.880
<v Speaker 1>from my job at Morgan Stanley, you have to replace

0:29:47.920 --> 0:29:52.160
<v Speaker 1>that income for me. So we made a real you

0:29:52.240 --> 0:29:56.239
<v Speaker 1>could yes and so I said to him, you'd have

0:29:56.320 --> 0:29:59.800
<v Speaker 1>to pay the rate, and he did, and so I worked,

0:30:00.120 --> 0:30:03.200
<v Speaker 1>and so it was that I you nailed it. It

0:30:03.280 --> 0:30:06.520
<v Speaker 1>was it was under the minimum that Major League Baseball

0:30:06.560 --> 0:30:13.840
<v Speaker 1>players get in the new collective bargaining agreement daily. So no,

0:30:13.960 --> 0:30:15.200
<v Speaker 1>I would keep you know what I would do it?

0:30:15.240 --> 0:30:17.600
<v Speaker 1>Morgan said, this is sort of funny. Actually, I had

0:30:17.600 --> 0:30:20.160
<v Speaker 1>a piece of paper. I would keep track of the

0:30:20.160 --> 0:30:23.680
<v Speaker 1>amount of money I was making two columns, and one

0:30:23.760 --> 0:30:25.880
<v Speaker 1>column was the amount of money I was making, and

0:30:25.920 --> 0:30:27.880
<v Speaker 1>the other column was the amount of money my clients

0:30:27.880 --> 0:30:30.240
<v Speaker 1>were making. Because I always knew that for me to

0:30:30.320 --> 0:30:33.880
<v Speaker 1>make money, it was important not every time, but the

0:30:33.920 --> 0:30:36.240
<v Speaker 1>majority of the time the clients had to make money.

0:30:36.520 --> 0:30:39.920
<v Speaker 1>I could still make money with losing money, but you're

0:30:39.920 --> 0:30:42.680
<v Speaker 1>not going to keep clients forlong that way, sure not.

0:30:43.560 --> 0:30:45.360
<v Speaker 1>So I would keep tracks so at the end of

0:30:45.400 --> 0:30:48.640
<v Speaker 1>every day, I would know exactly how much money I

0:30:48.680 --> 0:30:51.400
<v Speaker 1>made that particular day. So that was you had a

0:30:51.440 --> 0:30:54.520
<v Speaker 1>lot going on to manage your clients, so you could

0:30:54.560 --> 0:30:58.920
<v Speaker 1>not be able to do all of that, keep on

0:30:59.000 --> 0:31:05.880
<v Speaker 1>it dayly and help your stepfather acquire a professional professional

0:31:05.920 --> 0:31:09.000
<v Speaker 1>baseball team. That's exactly why I needed to get paid.

0:31:09.640 --> 0:31:13.600
<v Speaker 1>You're exactly right. You didn't give him no discount, Huh.

0:31:14.000 --> 0:31:17.920
<v Speaker 1>The opposite. I charged a premium because I knew he

0:31:17.960 --> 0:31:20.160
<v Speaker 1>wanted it badly, and I knew he couldn't do it

0:31:20.200 --> 0:31:23.720
<v Speaker 1>without me, because he trusted me to be helpful to him.

0:31:23.760 --> 0:31:27.080
<v Speaker 1>And so I was taught by my grandfather that you're

0:31:27.080 --> 0:31:32.440
<v Speaker 1>worth what you're paid. That's true, mhm. So I I

0:31:32.520 --> 0:31:37.040
<v Speaker 1>did the deal and on December the deal closed, and

0:31:37.120 --> 0:31:41.400
<v Speaker 1>he had asked me, uh, through my mother, with some

0:31:41.520 --> 0:31:45.200
<v Speaker 1>nice Jewish guilt, to help him run the team for

0:31:45.280 --> 0:31:49.440
<v Speaker 1>thirty days after he bought it, and I agreed to

0:31:49.480 --> 0:31:51.560
<v Speaker 1>do that, and we cut a deal for a month

0:31:51.600 --> 0:31:57.280
<v Speaker 1>of work, and that was a higher premium, yes, because

0:31:57.320 --> 0:32:01.000
<v Speaker 1>that was now a full time job. Got I got

0:32:01.040 --> 0:32:05.480
<v Speaker 1>fired the first day. It's a story I've not really

0:32:05.520 --> 0:32:11.560
<v Speaker 1>told before the first day, yes, December nine. On December

0:32:12.760 --> 0:32:16.680
<v Speaker 1>the deal was announced in Montreal, and I gave an

0:32:16.720 --> 0:32:21.640
<v Speaker 1>interview because I speak French and in Montreal Fance. So

0:32:21.720 --> 0:32:24.440
<v Speaker 1>I gave an interview my first time ever having an

0:32:24.440 --> 0:32:26.880
<v Speaker 1>i FB, which is the thing you put in your ear.

0:32:27.200 --> 0:32:30.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying that for your listeners, not you. Of course,

0:32:30.200 --> 0:32:33.560
<v Speaker 1>you know that I'm trying to pretend that listeners don't

0:32:33.560 --> 0:32:38.880
<v Speaker 1>know what that is, right you speaking French. Of all

0:32:39.240 --> 0:32:44.400
<v Speaker 1>our viewers are visually impaired, whether it be visually by

0:32:44.840 --> 0:32:48.120
<v Speaker 1>their eyes or they may be doing something else and

0:32:48.240 --> 0:32:50.840
<v Speaker 1>not watching it. So I love that. My my, my

0:32:50.920 --> 0:32:54.240
<v Speaker 1>coach always tells me explain to why give detail? So

0:32:54.280 --> 0:32:56.800
<v Speaker 1>I love it. I agree with you, that is great.

0:32:56.880 --> 0:32:59.760
<v Speaker 1>That's why your show is so successful. Actually, so I

0:32:59.800 --> 0:33:04.040
<v Speaker 1>did interview and f and uh he did not like

0:33:04.280 --> 0:33:07.600
<v Speaker 1>that I was doing media. And he called me when

0:33:07.640 --> 0:33:10.320
<v Speaker 1>I was back in my hotel and he had already

0:33:10.320 --> 0:33:12.120
<v Speaker 1>flown back to New York and I was in a

0:33:12.160 --> 0:33:14.200
<v Speaker 1>hotel Montreal, ready to go to work the next morning,

0:33:14.520 --> 0:33:16.280
<v Speaker 1>and he said to me, you know, I don't think

0:33:16.280 --> 0:33:18.600
<v Speaker 1>this is gonna work because I need to be the

0:33:18.600 --> 0:33:21.320
<v Speaker 1>public face of this franchise, not you, and I can't

0:33:21.320 --> 0:33:23.960
<v Speaker 1>have you doing any interviews or anything like that. And

0:33:24.000 --> 0:33:26.320
<v Speaker 1>I said, Jeffrey, there's no way to run the team

0:33:26.400 --> 0:33:29.000
<v Speaker 1>or to be the president of this team without being

0:33:29.000 --> 0:33:30.600
<v Speaker 1>the public face, because I'm the one who's going to

0:33:30.640 --> 0:33:32.960
<v Speaker 1>be here every day, not you. And he said, I

0:33:33.000 --> 0:33:34.960
<v Speaker 1>think you should pack your bags. It's not gonna work out.

0:33:35.280 --> 0:33:38.000
<v Speaker 1>And I said no problem. Hung up the phone. So

0:33:38.040 --> 0:33:41.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm packing my bags. I get a phone call. Hold.

0:33:41.360 --> 0:33:44.200
<v Speaker 1>A couple of hours later, how are you packing you bags?

0:33:44.240 --> 0:33:46.760
<v Speaker 1>Because I'm kin I'm seeing a Davis Samson right now.

0:33:47.040 --> 0:33:53.600
<v Speaker 1>He's packing pissed. No, No, here's why because he I

0:33:53.640 --> 0:33:55.560
<v Speaker 1>had no idea that I have an eighteen year career

0:33:55.600 --> 0:33:57.840
<v Speaker 1>in front of me. I had no I I had

0:33:57.840 --> 0:34:01.360
<v Speaker 1>no idea of anything other than I loved Morgan Stanley.

0:34:01.520 --> 0:34:03.400
<v Speaker 1>It was actually a couple of hours later my mother

0:34:03.480 --> 0:34:06.040
<v Speaker 1>called me and said, you can't leave. I said, he

0:34:06.120 --> 0:34:08.920
<v Speaker 1>fired me. I'm leaving. She said, you got to just

0:34:08.960 --> 0:34:11.680
<v Speaker 1>spend the night and see what happens in the morning,

0:34:11.719 --> 0:34:13.920
<v Speaker 1>because he's really he needs you to run the team.

0:34:14.200 --> 0:34:15.880
<v Speaker 1>And I said, well, I'm doing it for thirty days.

0:34:15.960 --> 0:34:18.840
<v Speaker 1>They you better find someone else, And sure enough, the

0:34:18.880 --> 0:34:20.759
<v Speaker 1>next morning I did. I stayed. I got a call

0:34:21.080 --> 0:34:23.640
<v Speaker 1>and he apologized. He said, going to the office. And

0:34:23.680 --> 0:34:25.440
<v Speaker 1>I went into the office as a thirty one year

0:34:25.480 --> 0:34:28.239
<v Speaker 1>old sort of president of a team. And it was

0:34:28.280 --> 0:34:30.440
<v Speaker 1>such eyewash in the beginning I look back on that

0:34:30.560 --> 0:34:35.040
<v Speaker 1>was such regret that I tried to prove from the

0:34:35.320 --> 0:34:38.000
<v Speaker 1>minute I got there, not through my action, but through

0:34:38.000 --> 0:34:41.680
<v Speaker 1>my words that I belonged there, and it was stupid

0:34:41.680 --> 0:34:43.800
<v Speaker 1>of me. So I was calling meetings for six thirty

0:34:43.840 --> 0:34:46.040
<v Speaker 1>am every day with all the executives, and I was

0:34:46.080 --> 0:34:49.520
<v Speaker 1>working twenty hour days and trying to show them that

0:34:49.680 --> 0:34:52.680
<v Speaker 1>even though I was the step step son of the owner,

0:34:52.719 --> 0:34:54.680
<v Speaker 1>that I was going to outwork everybody and that I

0:34:54.760 --> 0:34:57.400
<v Speaker 1>deserved to be there, that it wasn't nepotism. And it

0:34:57.480 --> 0:35:00.000
<v Speaker 1>took me a while to realize that being good at

0:35:00.080 --> 0:35:02.360
<v Speaker 1>my job was going to be the ultimate way to

0:35:02.400 --> 0:35:04.920
<v Speaker 1>prove to people that I belong there, that other than

0:35:04.960 --> 0:35:08.120
<v Speaker 1>there's no other way, there's no shortcut, and I knew

0:35:08.160 --> 0:35:10.120
<v Speaker 1>that in my regular life, but it took me a

0:35:10.160 --> 0:35:12.640
<v Speaker 1>minute to get there running a team, But I got

0:35:12.680 --> 0:35:15.600
<v Speaker 1>there and it kept me there for I ran a

0:35:15.600 --> 0:35:19.760
<v Speaker 1>team for eighteen years and five years in four years

0:35:19.760 --> 0:35:23.960
<v Speaker 1>in he and my mother got divorced, and so for

0:35:24.040 --> 0:35:28.000
<v Speaker 1>the last fourteen years of my career, he was just

0:35:28.040 --> 0:35:30.120
<v Speaker 1>the owner of the team that I worked for. And

0:35:30.200 --> 0:35:32.839
<v Speaker 1>the big difference from him being my stepfather to him

0:35:32.840 --> 0:35:35.359
<v Speaker 1>not be my stepfather is that we each lawyered up

0:35:35.440 --> 0:35:41.120
<v Speaker 1>during contract negotiations is a lot to impact. There were

0:35:41.160 --> 0:35:43.799
<v Speaker 1>certain times during my career when I said to him,

0:35:43.840 --> 0:35:47.640
<v Speaker 1>if you don't do this, I'm going to leave. And

0:35:47.680 --> 0:35:50.760
<v Speaker 1>there were certain times when he said, if you don't

0:35:51.640 --> 0:35:54.399
<v Speaker 1>except what I'm doing, I'm going to have you leave.

0:35:54.920 --> 0:35:57.400
<v Speaker 1>Because I had some issues with some of his managers.

0:35:58.400 --> 0:36:00.479
<v Speaker 1>Uh he had we hired and fire it I think

0:36:00.520 --> 0:36:04.440
<v Speaker 1>seventy nine managers in eighteen years. And uh, he just

0:36:06.360 --> 0:36:09.400
<v Speaker 1>whenever there was a loss. Basically, he was the type

0:36:09.400 --> 0:36:12.279
<v Speaker 1>of owner, which is really like every owner, where when

0:36:12.280 --> 0:36:16.320
<v Speaker 1>there's a loss on the field, there is someone to blame. Period.

0:36:16.440 --> 0:36:19.279
<v Speaker 1>There's got to be someone to blame, and and that's

0:36:19.280 --> 0:36:22.080
<v Speaker 1>really not accurate. Sometimes you just lose to a better team.

0:36:22.400 --> 0:36:25.719
<v Speaker 1>Sometimes you just lose because that's how sports goes. And

0:36:25.760 --> 0:36:28.920
<v Speaker 1>he owners have a hard time getting into that rhythm.

0:36:28.960 --> 0:36:33.000
<v Speaker 1>And that is one of the big problems with impestuous owners,

0:36:33.120 --> 0:36:36.719
<v Speaker 1>right they make decisions with emotion and they expect to

0:36:36.719 --> 0:36:39.160
<v Speaker 1>win every game, and then you don't stick to your

0:36:39.200 --> 0:36:42.040
<v Speaker 1>plan and then you lose more So that was part

0:36:42.040 --> 0:36:45.640
<v Speaker 1>of the biggest issue I had. Good do it good,

0:36:45.760 --> 0:36:50.640
<v Speaker 1>do it, get down to do it good. Hey youre

0:36:50.719 --> 0:36:52.640
<v Speaker 1>are Why did you get that T shirt? You mean

0:36:52.680 --> 0:36:55.080
<v Speaker 1>this thing? Oh? Yes, I got it from cut to

0:36:55.120 --> 0:36:58.680
<v Speaker 1>a podcast dot com where we have exclusive merchandise. Shout

0:36:58.719 --> 0:37:00.600
<v Speaker 1>out to our guys seven O four a shot. But yeah,

0:37:00.600 --> 0:37:03.080
<v Speaker 1>you can go on, buy you a T shirt, subscribe

0:37:03.080 --> 0:37:06.600
<v Speaker 1>to as wherever you listen to podcasts. How do you

0:37:06.680 --> 0:37:11.719
<v Speaker 1>compare corporate sports compared to corporate America? How does it vary?

0:37:13.680 --> 0:37:17.359
<v Speaker 1>So the public side is the biggest difference. So I

0:37:17.360 --> 0:37:19.600
<v Speaker 1>I do my job, whether it was at Morgan Stanley

0:37:19.680 --> 0:37:23.000
<v Speaker 1>or News Travels fast, and I didn't have people criticizing me.

0:37:23.040 --> 0:37:25.040
<v Speaker 1>I didn't have everybody in the world thinking they could

0:37:25.040 --> 0:37:27.719
<v Speaker 1>do the job better than I could. I didn't have

0:37:27.800 --> 0:37:30.359
<v Speaker 1>to deal with the media. I didn't have to deal

0:37:30.520 --> 0:37:32.360
<v Speaker 1>with people thinking it was a public company when it

0:37:32.440 --> 0:37:35.760
<v Speaker 1>was a private company. And I think that often people

0:37:35.760 --> 0:37:38.640
<v Speaker 1>forget that that sports teams are private and it's not

0:37:38.840 --> 0:37:42.040
<v Speaker 1>your right as a fan to know everything because you're

0:37:42.080 --> 0:37:45.280
<v Speaker 1>a fan. And that's tough to say to people sometimes

0:37:45.320 --> 0:37:47.759
<v Speaker 1>because they assume that it is their right. And you've

0:37:47.800 --> 0:37:50.880
<v Speaker 1>seen a lot of that now with with people upset

0:37:51.200 --> 0:37:54.600
<v Speaker 1>with payrolls for various teams, people thinking that billionaire owners

0:37:54.600 --> 0:37:57.960
<v Speaker 1>are not losing money, they're making money, and there's a

0:37:58.000 --> 0:38:02.640
<v Speaker 1>big disconnect between owners think that you should know, and

0:38:02.680 --> 0:38:05.640
<v Speaker 1>what you think you should know? What is a fan

0:38:09.000 --> 0:38:12.760
<v Speaker 1>a customer? It's a great point. What is a fan

0:38:13.280 --> 0:38:20.200
<v Speaker 1>legally right, let's just legally legally obligated because fans really

0:38:20.200 --> 0:38:24.280
<v Speaker 1>believe that they deserve an explanation on why the team

0:38:25.440 --> 0:38:28.680
<v Speaker 1>didn't get that final out, didn't get that first down.

0:38:29.280 --> 0:38:35.360
<v Speaker 1>Why haven't they publicly spoken and told their customer what

0:38:35.520 --> 0:38:41.600
<v Speaker 1>the plan is. I couldn't agree with you more. And

0:38:41.640 --> 0:38:44.240
<v Speaker 1>it was the cause of great consternation in my dealings

0:38:44.280 --> 0:38:46.560
<v Speaker 1>with the media, and ironic now that I'm on the

0:38:46.600 --> 0:38:50.319
<v Speaker 1>media side, so it's funny that way. But I I

0:38:50.560 --> 0:38:53.560
<v Speaker 1>really understood what the purpose of PR was, and I

0:38:53.560 --> 0:38:56.960
<v Speaker 1>would fight with my PR people often because they wanted

0:38:56.960 --> 0:38:59.520
<v Speaker 1>more information out there than I wanted out there, and

0:38:59.560 --> 0:39:01.759
<v Speaker 1>I would spin information the way I wanted to spend

0:39:01.760 --> 0:39:05.120
<v Speaker 1>it because I was trying to manipulate the customers into

0:39:05.160 --> 0:39:07.759
<v Speaker 1>them believing what I wanted them to believe, which is

0:39:08.840 --> 0:39:11.520
<v Speaker 1>it depends what the situation was. Give us a situation,

0:39:11.560 --> 0:39:14.319
<v Speaker 1>because I just I find this intriguing, right, And and

0:39:14.360 --> 0:39:19.839
<v Speaker 1>here's why. Here in Carolina we had an owner who

0:39:20.120 --> 0:39:25.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, sold the team. There was some success. He

0:39:25.560 --> 0:39:27.719
<v Speaker 1>brought the team he brought the franchise just like he

0:39:27.760 --> 0:39:31.120
<v Speaker 1>brought the franchise here. They loved him. He actually, him

0:39:31.160 --> 0:39:36.200
<v Speaker 1>and his son Mark created the PSL format. They created

0:39:36.239 --> 0:39:41.880
<v Speaker 1>the format of what every organization now has PSL. Right,

0:39:42.200 --> 0:39:44.759
<v Speaker 1>Mark Rederson created that him and him and his team.

0:39:44.840 --> 0:39:47.799
<v Speaker 1>And then I had to convince the league, and the

0:39:47.840 --> 0:39:50.480
<v Speaker 1>league was like, if you can make it work, sure,

0:39:50.920 --> 0:39:55.440
<v Speaker 1>and everybody's been doing it, so you have that. So

0:39:55.480 --> 0:39:57.919
<v Speaker 1>you have an owner who brought something, and then now

0:39:58.520 --> 0:40:01.960
<v Speaker 1>a new owner where the previous owner didn't talk to

0:40:02.040 --> 0:40:05.319
<v Speaker 1>the media either, right, he didn't feel that he had to.

0:40:05.520 --> 0:40:09.080
<v Speaker 1>He he deserved to explain why his team sucked. I

0:40:09.080 --> 0:40:11.080
<v Speaker 1>mean it was very It's very clear if you watch

0:40:11.120 --> 0:40:13.600
<v Speaker 1>any football you know I was on that one and

0:40:13.640 --> 0:40:16.839
<v Speaker 1>fifteen team. It was very clear why we sucked. We sucked, right.

0:40:16.840 --> 0:40:19.759
<v Speaker 1>We weren't very good. We had some clear deficiencies, didn't

0:40:19.760 --> 0:40:23.719
<v Speaker 1>have a franchise quarterback, offensive line wasn't very good, our

0:40:23.760 --> 0:40:28.080
<v Speaker 1>defense was pretty good, but it was aging. Right. We

0:40:28.160 --> 0:40:31.560
<v Speaker 1>had some young talent, but you know, are are starting

0:40:31.640 --> 0:40:35.240
<v Speaker 1>running back. Uh Tim Biakatuga, who was fantastic in college,

0:40:35.320 --> 0:40:38.160
<v Speaker 1>was pretty good in the prose, sustained some some injuries,

0:40:38.760 --> 0:40:42.440
<v Speaker 1>and they felt that the owners should tell them what

0:40:42.640 --> 0:40:46.319
<v Speaker 1>they obviously already see. For the for the for the

0:40:46.360 --> 0:40:49.279
<v Speaker 1>two and a half hours in the stadium are on television, right,

0:40:49.719 --> 0:40:51.960
<v Speaker 1>and so they want they feel like they should they

0:40:52.000 --> 0:40:58.840
<v Speaker 1>deserve an explanation. Again, what was the customer legally? What

0:40:58.880 --> 0:41:02.400
<v Speaker 1>should they legally get right, because they do believe that

0:41:02.440 --> 0:41:05.960
<v Speaker 1>they have every right to know everything. Yeah, Legally, when

0:41:06.000 --> 0:41:09.320
<v Speaker 1>you buy a ticket, you are promised to get entrance

0:41:09.360 --> 0:41:12.120
<v Speaker 1>into a facility if you follow the rules of that facility,

0:41:12.160 --> 0:41:14.040
<v Speaker 1>if you wear what they tell you to wear, if

0:41:14.040 --> 0:41:16.320
<v Speaker 1>you don't say what they tell you not to say.

0:41:16.719 --> 0:41:19.720
<v Speaker 1>It is a private area where you are gaining access

0:41:19.760 --> 0:41:22.960
<v Speaker 1>by paying money to gain access to that area. But

0:41:22.960 --> 0:41:27.160
<v Speaker 1>but the area reserves the right to eliminate you any second.

0:41:27.200 --> 0:41:32.279
<v Speaker 1>They want. All of that, it's all the back of

0:41:32.320 --> 0:41:34.800
<v Speaker 1>the ticket man. Those lawyers are paid for a reason,

0:41:35.360 --> 0:41:40.840
<v Speaker 1>and so legally nothing, that's the bottom line. You're not

0:41:40.880 --> 0:41:44.800
<v Speaker 1>guaranteed victories. Don't be ridiculous. Can you imagine if we

0:41:44.960 --> 0:41:47.719
<v Speaker 1>guaranteed fans, hey, we're gonna win ninety games this year,

0:41:48.080 --> 0:41:55.920
<v Speaker 1>and if not, we'll give your money backs. Mac After

0:41:55.920 --> 0:41:57.920
<v Speaker 1>doing all that was, what was next? What what did

0:41:57.960 --> 0:42:01.839
<v Speaker 1>you do when I ended up after you're saying after

0:42:01.880 --> 0:42:04.520
<v Speaker 1>my career? No, no, no, just you know you got

0:42:04.520 --> 0:42:07.920
<v Speaker 1>through obviously the unfortunate divorce. What's your what's your? Folks?

0:42:07.920 --> 0:42:11.120
<v Speaker 1>You're working there. Uh, you're showing people that you're the

0:42:11.160 --> 0:42:14.440
<v Speaker 1>hardest worker, burning people on both fans of the of

0:42:14.480 --> 0:42:19.640
<v Speaker 1>the candle, right, and just sitting there, you in corporate America.

0:42:20.000 --> 0:42:22.200
<v Speaker 1>You're telling you're telling the fans what they don't want

0:42:22.200 --> 0:42:25.960
<v Speaker 1>to hear. You're trying to manipulate them, you know, I mean,

0:42:26.320 --> 0:42:28.200
<v Speaker 1>what do you do next? I mean, and that's in

0:42:28.239 --> 0:42:31.480
<v Speaker 1>the first you know, that's in the first eight five years. Yeah,

0:42:31.520 --> 0:42:33.160
<v Speaker 1>that was. And we won the World Series in those

0:42:33.200 --> 0:42:35.400
<v Speaker 1>first four years. We wanted in two thousand three, and

0:42:35.400 --> 0:42:37.200
<v Speaker 1>then I spent the rest of my career chasing and

0:42:37.200 --> 0:42:40.000
<v Speaker 1>amy because it felt so good. All I ever wanted

0:42:40.080 --> 0:42:42.560
<v Speaker 1>was to win one ring, and after I won one ring,

0:42:42.680 --> 0:42:44.960
<v Speaker 1>all I ever wanted was to win two. And I

0:42:45.000 --> 0:42:48.680
<v Speaker 1>will never forget the feeling after winning. And I was

0:42:48.800 --> 0:42:53.839
<v Speaker 1>struck by how quickly I wanted to win again. And

0:42:53.960 --> 0:42:56.839
<v Speaker 1>I thought, when you climb the mountain and you get

0:42:56.880 --> 0:42:59.279
<v Speaker 1>to the summit, that I would stand there and take

0:42:59.320 --> 0:43:02.359
<v Speaker 1>pictures and I would revel in the accomplishment. What I

0:43:02.400 --> 0:43:04.560
<v Speaker 1>was doing was looking forward to the next summit already,

0:43:04.840 --> 0:43:07.120
<v Speaker 1>And that was a terrible moment for me. Actually. And

0:43:07.400 --> 0:43:11.400
<v Speaker 1>on October three, after we beat the Yankees and Yankee Stadium,

0:43:11.400 --> 0:43:14.920
<v Speaker 1>I walked onto the field after we had celebrated the

0:43:14.920 --> 0:43:18.839
<v Speaker 1>clubhouse and the stadium was empty. ESPN was doing its

0:43:18.880 --> 0:43:23.320
<v Speaker 1>post game and left field bleachers, and I looked around

0:43:23.360 --> 0:43:25.920
<v Speaker 1>and I said, I just want this feeling again. It

0:43:26.000 --> 0:43:29.160
<v Speaker 1>was like an addiction, and it made me so angry

0:43:29.160 --> 0:43:32.400
<v Speaker 1>that I didn't allow myself to enjoy it. So during

0:43:32.400 --> 0:43:37.160
<v Speaker 1>the World Series parade, I missed half the parade negotiating

0:43:37.400 --> 0:43:40.640
<v Speaker 1>to get a new ballpark in Miami. Instead of telling

0:43:41.000 --> 0:43:44.840
<v Speaker 1>the public officials, I'm busy, we'll meet tomorrow and enjoy

0:43:45.360 --> 0:43:49.000
<v Speaker 1>a parade, I said, no, I'm gonna still be the

0:43:49.000 --> 0:43:51.279
<v Speaker 1>hardest worker. I'm not going to take a minute to

0:43:51.400 --> 0:43:54.440
<v Speaker 1>enjoy this. And I worked through the World Series parade

0:43:54.440 --> 0:43:58.399
<v Speaker 1>in Fort Lauderdale terrible. And you work through to get

0:43:58.400 --> 0:44:04.040
<v Speaker 1>a new stadium, yes, to make more money. Because when

0:44:04.040 --> 0:44:06.840
<v Speaker 1>we started in Florida, we were playing where the Dolphins play.

0:44:07.120 --> 0:44:09.399
<v Speaker 1>You should know, right, you played on the dirt. That

0:44:09.480 --> 0:44:14.799
<v Speaker 1>was me terrible and we hated it. We hated as

0:44:14.880 --> 0:44:18.239
<v Speaker 1>much as you did. We hated it because after every

0:44:18.239 --> 0:44:20.720
<v Speaker 1>football game the field was torn up by the cleats

0:44:21.480 --> 0:44:23.640
<v Speaker 1>and and you guys didn't want to be tackled on

0:44:23.680 --> 0:44:26.280
<v Speaker 1>the dirt. Nope, I mean the whole thing was bad.

0:44:29.480 --> 0:44:31.560
<v Speaker 1>I mean it was you got tackled on the dirt.

0:44:31.600 --> 0:44:34.040
<v Speaker 1>It was you know, guys were getting infections and all

0:44:34.080 --> 0:44:38.120
<v Speaker 1>that kind of stuff. It was bad. So Wayne Heyzinga,

0:44:38.560 --> 0:44:40.480
<v Speaker 1>who owned the Dolphins, told us we needed to get

0:44:40.480 --> 0:44:43.080
<v Speaker 1>out of there. He wouldn't lease us the ballpark anymore,

0:44:43.239 --> 0:44:45.680
<v Speaker 1>the stadium. Then he sold the team to Stephen Ross,

0:44:45.719 --> 0:44:48.000
<v Speaker 1>the current owner of the Dolphins, who said get out

0:44:48.000 --> 0:44:50.680
<v Speaker 1>of here. And so we went to the public and said, listen,

0:44:50.680 --> 0:44:52.960
<v Speaker 1>if you don't help us finance and new stadium, the

0:44:53.000 --> 0:44:56.120
<v Speaker 1>team's gonna leave. We'll go to Texas, or we'll go

0:44:56.200 --> 0:44:59.440
<v Speaker 1>to San Antonio or Vegas or Portland. We're going somewhere,

0:44:59.480 --> 0:45:02.560
<v Speaker 1>but we're not saying here. And we ended up negotiating

0:45:02.560 --> 0:45:04.600
<v Speaker 1>a public deal, not as good as the one the

0:45:04.600 --> 0:45:08.200
<v Speaker 1>Buffalo Bills just got, but not bad. And we then

0:45:08.239 --> 0:45:11.360
<v Speaker 1>started construction of Marlin's Park, which opened in two thousand twelve.

0:45:12.120 --> 0:45:16.799
<v Speaker 1>So you get that they switched teams. What happens? You help,

0:45:16.920 --> 0:45:20.840
<v Speaker 1>You helped negotiate all of this stuff and then what

0:45:22.640 --> 0:45:26.120
<v Speaker 1>So in two thousand and sixteen, we really thought that

0:45:26.160 --> 0:45:29.000
<v Speaker 1>we had a team that could win. And uh we

0:45:29.040 --> 0:45:31.520
<v Speaker 1>had a great outfield with Jean Carlos Stanton and Christian

0:45:31.600 --> 0:45:34.160
<v Speaker 1>Yelloch and Marcelo Zuna, and we had a great young

0:45:34.200 --> 0:45:37.960
<v Speaker 1>pitcher named Jose Fernandez, who unfortunately died in a tragic

0:45:38.000 --> 0:45:42.759
<v Speaker 1>boating accident on September two thousand and sixteen. And not

0:45:42.960 --> 0:45:46.080
<v Speaker 1>long after that, the owner, Jeffrey walked into my office

0:45:46.120 --> 0:45:48.279
<v Speaker 1>and said, I don't want to do this anymore, sell

0:45:48.320 --> 0:45:52.600
<v Speaker 1>the team. And I said okay, and so I then

0:45:52.719 --> 0:45:56.520
<v Speaker 1>for the next year worked on drumming up bids from

0:45:56.560 --> 0:45:59.760
<v Speaker 1>Derek Jeter and a Rod and Tag Romney and anyone

0:45:59.760 --> 0:46:03.120
<v Speaker 1>else I could find to get someone to completely overpay

0:46:03.200 --> 0:46:06.520
<v Speaker 1>for the Marlins, which Derek Jeter did by like five

0:46:06.960 --> 0:46:10.760
<v Speaker 1>million dollars. Uh, it closed, which was hard to believe.

0:46:10.800 --> 0:46:15.160
<v Speaker 1>I was like Jesse Eisenberg who played Mark Zuckerberg in

0:46:15.200 --> 0:46:19.200
<v Speaker 1>the movie The Social Network. Did you ever see that movie?

0:46:20.360 --> 0:46:23.160
<v Speaker 1>So at the end of the movie, did any of

0:46:23.200 --> 0:46:27.200
<v Speaker 1>you see that movie not about Facebook, it's the one

0:46:27.200 --> 0:46:29.479
<v Speaker 1>about Facebook anyway. The end of the movie is hitting

0:46:29.520 --> 0:46:32.080
<v Speaker 1>refresh because he wants to get a girl to to

0:46:32.400 --> 0:46:35.120
<v Speaker 1>be his friend on Facebook. So he's hitting refreshed trying

0:46:35.160 --> 0:46:38.000
<v Speaker 1>to see if she accepted his friend request. That was

0:46:38.160 --> 0:46:43.000
<v Speaker 1>me in October one of two thousand seventeen, hitting refreshed

0:46:43.080 --> 0:46:46.439
<v Speaker 1>to see if the money got transferred into the bank

0:46:46.480 --> 0:46:49.680
<v Speaker 1>account from the sale. Because the minute it hit I

0:46:49.760 --> 0:46:52.560
<v Speaker 1>walked out of the stadium, Derek Jeter walked past me.

0:46:52.640 --> 0:46:55.440
<v Speaker 1>He walked in because he was taking my office, and

0:46:55.480 --> 0:47:00.560
<v Speaker 1>I never turned back. So you knew sooner? Is that happy?

0:47:00.640 --> 0:47:05.279
<v Speaker 1>You're out? Oh? It was clear that I was going

0:47:05.320 --> 0:47:08.000
<v Speaker 1>to be let go, although I was let go semi

0:47:08.080 --> 0:47:10.680
<v Speaker 1>famously through a text alert. Is how I found out.

0:47:10.760 --> 0:47:13.920
<v Speaker 1>I got an ESPN text alert on my phone that

0:47:13.920 --> 0:47:16.360
<v Speaker 1>that I was fired as the president of Miami Marlins.

0:47:16.680 --> 0:47:19.919
<v Speaker 1>So I called up Jeter and I said, hey, am

0:47:19.920 --> 0:47:22.799
<v Speaker 1>I fired? And he said, oh yeah, I meant to

0:47:22.840 --> 0:47:26.600
<v Speaker 1>call you. I'm sorry. I said, all right, no worries, man,

0:47:26.640 --> 0:47:33.480
<v Speaker 1>thank you, see bye. So that he was hogging all

0:47:33.520 --> 0:47:41.399
<v Speaker 1>of damn avocados U full circle. I like it. Yeah, well, hey,

0:47:41.440 --> 0:47:43.840
<v Speaker 1>I know, you gotta go listen. We gotta have you

0:47:43.880 --> 0:47:47.960
<v Speaker 1>back on here. Boy. You look he's spunky. I like this.

0:47:48.960 --> 0:47:54.320
<v Speaker 1>I like I can talk Sparky. It looks like Sparky

0:47:54.400 --> 0:47:57.160
<v Speaker 1>is the nickname given to me by Jack McKeon, our manager,

0:47:57.320 --> 0:47:59.600
<v Speaker 1>because he said I was the spark plug of the organization.

0:48:00.280 --> 0:48:02.040
<v Speaker 1>Because this is me, this is what I'm like. I

0:48:02.120 --> 0:48:04.640
<v Speaker 1>have high energy, and I have a lot of fun.

0:48:04.840 --> 0:48:08.040
<v Speaker 1>I work really hard, I party really hard, and life

0:48:08.080 --> 0:48:11.920
<v Speaker 1>is short, so don't waste it. What people sometimes look

0:48:11.960 --> 0:48:13.480
<v Speaker 1>at me, and the biggest mistake they make is they

0:48:13.520 --> 0:48:16.399
<v Speaker 1>think that I've always been successful. And I explained to them,

0:48:16.440 --> 0:48:18.960
<v Speaker 1>and I tell them in very great detail all the

0:48:19.000 --> 0:48:22.800
<v Speaker 1>times I failed, and I have failed so much. And

0:48:23.200 --> 0:48:26.839
<v Speaker 1>it sounds trite, but my failures are the greatest things

0:48:26.880 --> 0:48:30.239
<v Speaker 1>that ever happened to me, because I was able to

0:48:30.400 --> 0:48:32.840
<v Speaker 1>always get off the mat and and and the reason

0:48:32.920 --> 0:48:34.720
<v Speaker 1>I did is because I always had something to prove.

0:48:35.160 --> 0:48:37.840
<v Speaker 1>Maybe it's been short and being cut by my freshman

0:48:37.880 --> 0:48:40.399
<v Speaker 1>basketball coach. Maybe it's not getting the job I wanted

0:48:40.400 --> 0:48:43.239
<v Speaker 1>out of law school. Maybe it's not accomplishing things I

0:48:43.239 --> 0:48:45.759
<v Speaker 1>wanted to accomplish, both often on the field. But I've

0:48:45.800 --> 0:48:49.600
<v Speaker 1>always wanted more, and there's a reward for wanting more,

0:48:50.120 --> 0:48:52.760
<v Speaker 1>but only if you work to get it. Favorite failure.

0:48:53.440 --> 0:48:55.359
<v Speaker 1>You mentioned all the failures you have. What's your favorite one?

0:48:56.360 --> 0:48:58.440
<v Speaker 1>The most important one is when I got rejected by

0:48:58.440 --> 0:49:01.520
<v Speaker 1>the Manhattan District Attorney's Office. That's all what I wanted

0:49:01.520 --> 0:49:02.880
<v Speaker 1>to do out of law school, and I made it

0:49:02.920 --> 0:49:05.879
<v Speaker 1>through three rounds of interviews. I was a sure fire

0:49:05.920 --> 0:49:07.960
<v Speaker 1>to get the job I had interned there. It was

0:49:08.000 --> 0:49:11.279
<v Speaker 1>a slam dunk, and I never really had major adversity

0:49:11.360 --> 0:49:13.480
<v Speaker 1>because I would work to get what i'd want and

0:49:13.520 --> 0:49:15.680
<v Speaker 1>then i'd get it. And I thought i'd get the job.

0:49:15.719 --> 0:49:17.759
<v Speaker 1>And when I got the back, then it was an

0:49:17.840 --> 0:49:21.800
<v Speaker 1>envelope a letter, and the letter said, we are sorry

0:49:21.840 --> 0:49:24.120
<v Speaker 1>to say that you have been eliminated from consideration to

0:49:24.160 --> 0:49:27.720
<v Speaker 1>be an assistant District Attorney in the Manhattan District Attorney's Office.

0:49:28.080 --> 0:49:32.000
<v Speaker 1>And it stunned me, absolutely stunned me in my tracks,

0:49:32.280 --> 0:49:36.120
<v Speaker 1>and I reveled in the failure for a week, and

0:49:36.160 --> 0:49:39.160
<v Speaker 1>then I started the business in Europe who got a

0:49:39.400 --> 0:49:42.000
<v Speaker 1>who got the job? You know who got the job? There?

0:49:42.120 --> 0:49:44.560
<v Speaker 1>They that's the joke of it, right, They hire fifty

0:49:44.600 --> 0:49:47.600
<v Speaker 1>assistant district attorneys and my best friend from law school

0:49:47.640 --> 0:49:50.239
<v Speaker 1>got a job there and I didn't. And it never

0:49:50.280 --> 0:49:56.560
<v Speaker 1>occurred to me that he would succeed and I would fail. MS.

0:49:57.080 --> 0:50:00.279
<v Speaker 1>We had to bring it back, bro, all right, let

0:50:00.320 --> 0:50:02.319
<v Speaker 1>you go appreciate it. I'd love to Hey, thank you

0:50:02.360 --> 0:50:07.760
<v Speaker 1>guys so much. Thank you. You are a unique person.

0:50:08.360 --> 0:50:12.719
<v Speaker 1>You are well worth it, you are competent, and most

0:50:12.760 --> 0:50:17.320
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