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Speaker 2: director as Ian Roddy Ian Jets are two and six.

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Speaker 2: Mike's Bears had absolute heartbreak against the watching the Commanders

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Speaker 2: and my Seahawks. Basically no showed against the Buffalo Bills.

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Speaker 2: So that's the week that we got guys with our

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Speaker 2: teams in week eight, a week that we talked about

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Speaker 3: So there's sixteen winners and sixteen losers.

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Speaker 2: But there are just some losers that are maybe a

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Speaker 3: But just have more of an effect than some others.

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Speaker 4: Well, yeah, I mean, we're talking about expectations and hope

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Speaker 4: the best of things. You know, every day you wake

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Speaker 4: for our football teams, but they were losses that meant

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Speaker 4: I think much more right, you know, doing the show

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Speaker 4: on Monday Night with Jason Smith, he tried to lay

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Speaker 4: was just trying to deflect my way. Ian'll have his

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Speaker 4: chance to volley back again here in a second. But

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Speaker 4: it's like, no, no, that's that's a game you played

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Speaker 4: then you said no, I don't want it and gave

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Speaker 4: it back for me. It also meant the end of

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Speaker 4: a couple of Guillotine League efforts because I became the

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Speaker 4: low scorer after some pretty good weeks Week one through seven.

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Speaker 4: Well this one fell by doom. But you know, for

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Speaker 4: the offense is gonna be great for your Seahawks. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: midpoint in the season. There was a lot of shrugging going, well,

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Speaker 2: I actually want to start with Ian's Jets. I know

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Speaker 2: Somehow found a way, whether it be zerline missfield goals,

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Speaker 2: a guillotine League. I've got Breis Hall in the Guillotine League.

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Speaker 3: In the future doesn't even look much better.

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Speaker 7: In the Rain.

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Speaker 4: But otherwise it's you know, there's been some false starts

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Speaker 3: You do.

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Speaker 4: But it's also the as with you and the Jets,

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Speaker 4: and you could say for this year, right is you

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Speaker 5: That's part of what I was saying to Dan and

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Speaker 5: if this season didn't work out, what can like, how

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Speaker 2: What can It's Yeah, longest, it's the longest streak of

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Speaker 5: And the funniest part is that I was just saying

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Speaker 7: Now, I always thought.

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Speaker 4: terms of roster construction. And then they sold their soul

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Speaker 4: Did I ever believe Robert Salas should have been a

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Speaker 4: full you know, a head coach. No, but you at

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Speaker 2: So how does a Bears fan rationalize what happened on Sunday?

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Speaker 2: I looked up William Refrigerator Perry's statistics from nineteen eighty

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Speaker 7: But you go.

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Speaker 4: It's it's that that thirteen to fifteen yards wherever we

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Speaker 2: We got to take a time out, this therapy session

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Speaker 2: That's Ian Roddy. I'm Dan Bayer. All I'm going to

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Speaker 7: Still there's a there's a lot of football.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know what, I think our teams are

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Speaker 2: to you know, Mike's almost forty years ago and Ian's

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I's grandparents super Bowl like negative Still you.

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Speaker 2: You ever run in these Super Bowl three smack at anybody?

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Speaker 3: This I think there's an argument to be made for it.

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Speaker 2: It's it's funny because as we were talking in the

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Speaker 5: missed the playoffs for you know, an entire decade, I

437
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Speaker 5: think the owners should be forced to sell.

438
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Speaker 7: Wow.

439
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Speaker 6: But I like that. I just think just for the

440
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Speaker 6: sake of parody.

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Speaker 2: Well, well, now with the expanded playoffs, there are only

442
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Speaker 2: there are only four teams that haven't played a playoff

443
00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:05,919
Speaker 2: game in this new format. The Jets are one. The

444
00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:08,920
Speaker 2: Broncos haven't. Their last playoff game was Super Bowl fifty

445
00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:11,919
Speaker 2: when they beat the Panthers. Yeah, and the Panthers and

446
00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:16,399
Speaker 2: Falcons haven't made the playoffs in six seasons. Otherwise, every

447
00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:18,600
Speaker 2: other team in the NFL at least has had a

448
00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:24,040
Speaker 2: playoff game within this new format, which is pretty crazy.

449
00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:28,920
Speaker 3: And even the Raiders. Yeah sorry Raiders, man, but.

450
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Speaker 7: Now but I mean, look good. They're on the radar.

451
00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:36,520
Speaker 4: And obviously the franchises were worth a lot more money, so.

452
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Speaker 7: Sure, that's good.

453
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Speaker 2: The funny thing that when I look back at this, though,

454
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Speaker 2: is when we were talking about the Seahawks in their

455
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Speaker 2: time in the nineteen eighties, as I said, I remember

456
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Speaker 2: eighty three, eighty four. Then they ended up making it

457
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Speaker 2: in the playoffs, and I believe it's eighty seven to

458
00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:55,080
Speaker 2: eighty eight, and then it was basically the entire nineties

459
00:22:55,840 --> 00:23:01,640
Speaker 2: they didn't they didn't do anything, and it was that

460
00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:05,040
Speaker 2: is like that's prime childhood for me. Like that is

461
00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:08,359
Speaker 2: that's I graduated high school in nineteen ninety five. So

462
00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:12,919
Speaker 2: everything prior to that stunk. Everything after that in college stunk.

463
00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:16,119
Speaker 2: There wasn't anything. It wasn't until Mike Holmgren came along

464
00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:18,800
Speaker 2: and they ended up winning the division and they lost

465
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Speaker 2: to Dan Marino and the Dolphins in a playoff game,

466
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Speaker 2: and like the in nineteen ninety nine, which is Dan

467
00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:28,160
Speaker 2: Marino's final win as a quarterback. But the point being

468
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Speaker 2: is I look back and obviously the Seahawks started winning

469
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Speaker 2: in two thousand and four with Home Grand in the

470
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Speaker 2: new regime, and it's been basically pretty good success since then.

471
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Speaker 2: So it's a weird feeling because I went without it

472
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Speaker 2: so much. But I'm as I look back at the

473
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Speaker 2: super Bowl that they won ten years ago, I almost wish,

474
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Speaker 2: guys that I would have had that as a kid.

475
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Speaker 3: I think I would have appreciated it more.

476
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Speaker 2: I don't or if it would have just maybe maybe

477
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Speaker 2: I would have been a spoiled fan at that point.

478
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Speaker 2: But in terms of the you know, in terms of

479
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Speaker 2: determining would I want the championship when I was a

480
00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:09,560
Speaker 2: kid or when I was an adult, I'm almost I'm almost.

481
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Speaker 3: Wondering if it would have been better if I was

482
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Speaker 3: a kid.

483
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Speaker 2: I I you know, Mike, you had you said yours

484
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Speaker 2: in eighty five, I mean, would you trade eighty five

485
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Speaker 2: for one right now?

486
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Speaker 1: Now?

487
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Speaker 4: I was twelve then, and then I got the the

488
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Speaker 4: White Sox in two thousand and five since we're still

489
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Speaker 4: as we record this, you know, talking World Series and

490
00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:32,120
Speaker 4: everything else is you know, that sweep of the Astros.

491
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Speaker 4: I got to go to Game two and my older

492
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Speaker 4: daughter had been born in September.

493
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Speaker 7: Like that was.

494
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Speaker 4: That was everything, Like that playoff run and that White

495
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Speaker 4: Sox team.

496
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Speaker 7: You know all of those guys.

497
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Speaker 4: Still go back and forth on Twitter with several guys

498
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Speaker 4: from that team. You know, just relationships she build over

499
00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:57,520
Speaker 4: over time, bit by bit. But you know, the eighty

500
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Speaker 4: five Bears. Like again, I was sidelined with some you know,

501
00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:05,720
Speaker 4: surgery and whatever watching that playoff run and and some

502
00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:09,080
Speaker 4: of the camaraderie there and just quiet moments that you

503
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Speaker 4: know as much as you were, you know, just kind

504
00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:13,480
Speaker 4: of hanging around watching games.

505
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Speaker 7: The family gathered, I think more at that point.

506
00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:20,840
Speaker 4: Like now it's fractured and obviously what we do for

507
00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:23,399
Speaker 4: a living and we love every minute of it. You know,

508
00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:26,119
Speaker 4: for all you listening out there, we're blessed to what

509
00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:28,760
Speaker 4: we do. But we don't get to just sit in

510
00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:32,840
Speaker 4: groups to watch games. You're in a studio Sunday afternoons. Ian,

511
00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:37,160
Speaker 4: You're in the studio Sunday afternoons. I'm in early previewing games,

512
00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:39,920
Speaker 4: and then you know, it becomes the kid run around

513
00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:42,320
Speaker 4: or you know, trying to catch games as you can.

514
00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:45,400
Speaker 4: Back then, it was simpler and you wore your heart

515
00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:47,600
Speaker 4: on your sleeve. That doesn't mean you're not You're not

516
00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:50,280
Speaker 4: still the same fan. And I've talked about it where

517
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Speaker 4: I I just you know the show I do with

518
00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:56,399
Speaker 4: with Jason Smith, you know, Jets and Mets and Knicks.

519
00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:59,040
Speaker 4: While at times you know there's the I want to

520
00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:03,080
Speaker 4: throttle you because it's obsessive. I'm jealous of it to

521
00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:06,240
Speaker 4: a degree as well, because he is still so much

522
00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:09,560
Speaker 4: a little kid when it comes to his fandom.

523
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Speaker 7: Whereas I think.

524
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Speaker 4: In general, you know, the pragmatic approach, the all right,

525
00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:17,240
Speaker 4: i'm gonna sit and watch this from a different lens

526
00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:20,000
Speaker 4: thing takes over for me way too much to where

527
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Speaker 4: I can't just, you know, be the fan that I

528
00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:24,560
Speaker 4: was when I was twelve.

529
00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:27,400
Speaker 3: Yes, I agree wholeheartedly.

530
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Speaker 2: And the most difficult thing about talking like that is

531
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Speaker 2: we're talking to you the listeners out there who have

532
00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:38,959
Speaker 2: a completely different perspective than what we have.

533
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Speaker 3: And it's the one it's the one thing that is so.

534
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Speaker 2: I That's why I talk about like our teams like

535
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Speaker 2: there was a there was a point, Mike where people

536
00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:53,600
Speaker 2: felt like, you can't have can't have a favorite team,

537
00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:55,000
Speaker 2: shows your bias.

538
00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:55,840
Speaker 3: And now I'm bad.

539
00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:59,640
Speaker 7: Anybody that tells me that I question everything that you're doing.

540
00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:03,359
Speaker 2: I agree, well, because we're in entertainment. But it's also

541
00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:06,680
Speaker 2: another way for me to relate to you as a fan.

542
00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:07,879
Speaker 2: If you're listening to this.

543
00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:11,200
Speaker 3: There are certain sports and teams.

544
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:13,280
Speaker 2: That have gone by the wayside, but there there are

545
00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:15,880
Speaker 2: still a few that you know, you live and die

546
00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:18,879
Speaker 2: with at this point, and so so it's the one

547
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:21,720
Speaker 2: point of connection that I still want to have. So

548
00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:24,480
Speaker 2: you bring that up with Jason that he still has that.

549
00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:27,480
Speaker 2: I do kind of sometimes feel that with football and

550
00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:30,640
Speaker 2: can be a bit jaded, But you know, I don't

551
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:33,280
Speaker 2: if the Seahawks would have won a Super Bowl when

552
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Speaker 2: I was, you know, in nineteen ninety nine, let's just

553
00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:37,120
Speaker 2: say even early, if they.

554
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Speaker 3: When I was in high school.

555
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Speaker 2: If they go and win Super Bowl in nineteen ninety

556
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Speaker 2: three or nineteen ninety four and then go the next

557
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:52,840
Speaker 2: thirty years without winning one, I don't I I think

558
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:57,359
Speaker 2: I would have a huge amount of frustration. And I

559
00:27:57,400 --> 00:28:00,240
Speaker 2: only just say that because the Sea. I'm frustrated with

560
00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:03,159
Speaker 2: the Seahawks for we're going on ten years now and

561
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:05,280
Speaker 2: I just don't think that they've had a super Bowl

562
00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:08,679
Speaker 2: caliber team. And then I look at what Ian's dealing

563
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:12,239
Speaker 2: with and he's gone on thirteen straight years of not

564
00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:15,160
Speaker 2: even having a Playoff caliber team, right, you know, like

565
00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:17,919
Speaker 2: it's just so there's just so many different levels of

566
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:20,680
Speaker 2: like how I look at try to rationalize it, and

567
00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:23,080
Speaker 2: all right, am I am? I spoiled as a fan,

568
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:25,040
Speaker 2: and you know, how do I look at it this way?

569
00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:27,720
Speaker 2: But man to be able to take what I had

570
00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:30,360
Speaker 2: or what and to win a championship when you can

571
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:34,119
Speaker 2: brag to your friends and rub it into your firm friends,

572
00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:36,600
Speaker 2: that'd probably be the the cherry on top for me.

573
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Speaker 6: As a kid.

574
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Speaker 5: As a kid, I feel like everything's so much more

575
00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:44,360
Speaker 5: black and white, like when you win or you lose,

576
00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:46,360
Speaker 5: you know, where as an adult you're so much more

577
00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:48,600
Speaker 5: And I guess it's not the same for everyone, but

578
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:51,320
Speaker 5: as an adult, in theory, there's a higher level of

579
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:54,480
Speaker 5: understanding as to what goes into winning a championship, So

580
00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:58,400
Speaker 5: maybe the payoff can be bigger, but less giddiness as

581
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Speaker 5: to what Mike was saying about Jason how he's still

582
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:02,720
Speaker 5: somehow has that childish, childlike giddiness.

583
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:05,480
Speaker 2: I'll tell you one thing about being a being a kid,

584
00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:11,840
Speaker 2: The years were long, so like non football season was forever, right,

585
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:14,880
Speaker 2: like to go like from the end of the season. Now,

586
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:17,680
Speaker 2: when you're an adult, you're like, oh, jeez, football, you know,

587
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:20,040
Speaker 2: I have football's yere, Wow, it's three weeks away.

588
00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:21,880
Speaker 3: Like probably that was fast. Just seems like we're at

589
00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:22,360
Speaker 3: the super Bowl.

590
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 2: When you're a kid, that is not the case, because

591
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:26,800
Speaker 2: you're in a different grade, you're in a different maybe

592
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:29,440
Speaker 2: social structure, you have different friends, you have you know this,

593
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:32,880
Speaker 2: and that like everything is so different when you're a

594
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:36,320
Speaker 2: kid because there isn't this real, I don't know, real

595
00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:38,560
Speaker 2: grasp on time. And maybe it's better that way, but

596
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:43,000
Speaker 2: each season is almost cherished because you just feel that,

597
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:45,480
Speaker 2: oh man, there's gonna be a point when we don't

598
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:47,840
Speaker 2: have this, you know, in a couple of months, and

599
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:50,239
Speaker 2: it's going to be such a tough time without it.

600
00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:53,120
Speaker 2: Like to me, it was just it took forever, and

601
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:55,720
Speaker 2: now the seasons longer. I get that, so the off

602
00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:58,160
Speaker 2: season is a little bit shorter, But it just seemed

603
00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:00,440
Speaker 2: for me to take forever to get from the Super

604
00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:02,880
Speaker 2: Bowl to the start of next season when you're a kid.

605
00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:05,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think to Ian's point about what you know,

606
00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:08,120
Speaker 4: you see the saw, how the sausage is made, not

607
00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:10,640
Speaker 4: just us, you know, doing what we do in the

608
00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:14,200
Speaker 4: conversations that we have, you know, with people we interview,

609
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:18,040
Speaker 4: you know, the insiders, experts, whatever, but you know everybody.

610
00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:20,440
Speaker 4: And this is again relating back to you know, to

611
00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:22,600
Speaker 4: all of you listening and giving us a few minutes

612
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:25,320
Speaker 4: of your time. I mean, it's greatly appreciated that that

613
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:29,520
Speaker 4: camaraderie and that kinship that we feel over this, right,

614
00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:33,560
Speaker 4: the highs and lows, the emotional stuff that goes with it,

615
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:37,320
Speaker 4: is just that the off season now is not really

616
00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:41,480
Speaker 4: an off season, right. All the transactional stuff matters. Before

617
00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:43,520
Speaker 4: it was just all right, when did the game start?

618
00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:46,240
Speaker 7: Get me? Get me to a Sunday morning? Right?

619
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Speaker 4: For us, it was if we were at a card show.

620
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Speaker 4: Someone had to have a TV doing baseball card shows

621
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Speaker 4: as a teenager, so it was like, so there had

622
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Speaker 4: to be a big TV sitting there somewhere, as big

623
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Speaker 4: as one as you had in the late eighties, in

624
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:04,400
Speaker 4: the early nineties and or the radio was turned up,

625
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:07,160
Speaker 4: you went to early mass, you grabbed.

626
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:10,120
Speaker 7: Your your donuts and away you went. And then at noon,

627
00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:12,480
Speaker 7: because it was always a noon's kickoff for the Bears,

628
00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:15,480
Speaker 7: you had a noon kickoff, and you know, going into

629
00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:17,120
Speaker 7: the other sports, right, I had that run.

630
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:20,880
Speaker 4: With the Bulls, Well that's a lifetime ago, right. The

631
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:24,400
Speaker 4: black Hawks had a had a quick run with tays

632
00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:28,000
Speaker 4: And and Caine, and that came and went pretty fast

633
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:31,880
Speaker 4: to where they're back to whatever they've got badard and

634
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:35,920
Speaker 4: maybe there's there's hope, but hopees you know again, it's like,

635
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:38,080
Speaker 4: all right, we'll see you know what kind of roster

636
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:40,800
Speaker 4: rounds out around him, but you know all of it.

637
00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:42,840
Speaker 7: And White Tucks just lost one hundred and twenty one games.

638
00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:47,720
Speaker 4: So I looked nostalgically even more so at the video

639
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:50,760
Speaker 4: clips of that two thousand and five squad. So whenever

640
00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:53,600
Speaker 4: they actually get included in a list, right, it was, hey,

641
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:56,680
Speaker 4: here's the teams that you know I finished off sweeps

642
00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:57,640
Speaker 4: in recent marriage.

643
00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:00,680
Speaker 7: There's a two thousand and five White sock. See you

644
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:02,480
Speaker 7: didn't get to leave him off for that graphic.

645
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:10,760
Speaker 2: Uh good times against now league rival Houston. So well,

646
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:15,160
Speaker 2: there you go, you know, tis times has changed. Hey,

647
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:17,440
Speaker 2: the Seahawks got thrown against the Broncos. If you would

648
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:19,080
Speaker 2: have told me that in nineteen eighty seven, I would

649
00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:19,560
Speaker 2: have thought.

650
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 3: You were crazy.

651
00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:23,400
Speaker 2: See there you go, Yeah, that would be impossible. I

652
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:26,520
Speaker 2: do think this is a good spot to wrap it up. Ian,

653
00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:28,800
Speaker 2: will you tell us who your favorite NBA team is?

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Speaker 5: I'm actually a Warriors fan because okay, yeah, I lived

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Speaker 5: in Brooklyn as a kid and then moved to the Bay.

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Speaker 3: Okay, who's your favorite baseball team?

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Speaker 6: Baseball? I don't really have a favorite baseball team.

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Speaker 5: I grew up rooting for the Yankees, then rooted for

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Speaker 5: the Giants when we moved, and now I'm just kind

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Speaker 5: of Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So my point is, don't feel that bad for Ian,

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Speaker 2: because at least these Giants won three World Series and

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Speaker 2: in the early teens the Warriors their titles. Yeah, that's when.

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Speaker 5: I really tasted, you know, being plugged in as a

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Speaker 5: fan and winning a championship.

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Speaker 2: Go says yes, And you got Harmon sitting over there

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Speaker 2: holding on to the to the nineties with a vice

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Speaker 2: grip as much as he as he can and two

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Speaker 2: thousand and five.

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Speaker 4: So life was so much simpler than dan a couple

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Speaker 4: of kids, a lot of travels, many a weary hour

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Speaker 4: screaming into a microphone in the wee hours of the

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Speaker 4: morning about how I hate everybody else's teams because they're

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Speaker 4: good and have direction and purpose.

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Speaker 2: Hey, I wasn't sure if the Bucks were going to

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Speaker 2: be in Milwaukee a decade ago.

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Speaker 6: No, that's right, I mean think in terms of it,

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Speaker 6: and then for.

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Speaker 2: Them to go and to win an NBA title absolutely crazy.

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Speaker 2: So you don't have to feel too bad for me either.

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Speaker 2: But the Seahawks right now in that ten year drought,

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Speaker 2: I know that would be a ten year drought that

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Speaker 2: Ian would love to have. It might even your bears

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Speaker 2: as well. It's just, you know, the playoff appearances by

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Speaker 2: the Seahawks just still have me a little bit jaded.

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Speaker 4: But there's just something to those runs, right, Like you know,

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Speaker 4: you'd think back to ten years ten years ago, and

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Speaker 4: your squad is like, are you finally going to break through?

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Speaker 4: And are you going to do this? Because certainly, Dan,

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Speaker 4: I mean you had the Super Bowl against the Steelers,

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Speaker 4: which remains you know what what however you want to

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Speaker 4: term it keep it safe, yeah, yeah, keep it safe

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Speaker 4: for air, But yeah, but you have that I got

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Speaker 4: Rex Grossman. Yeah, so we did get there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that is true. That is yeah, it is.

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Speaker 2: It's a fair point. It's funny too. It's a different

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Speaker 2: Seahawks because there's a whole new brand of Seahawks that

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Speaker 2: have no idea what Super Bowl forty was like and

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Speaker 2: uh and they have no idea what John Freeze is

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Speaker 2: your starting quarterback was like. Although their quarterback play was

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Speaker 2: so bad that John Freese. I went back and looked

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Speaker 2: at stats. I'm like, you know, John Freeze was all

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Speaker 2: right for the Seahawks for a while, and then I

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Speaker 2: looked back at the stats and I'm like, boy, was

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Speaker 2: hyjaded at that point, because anything could have been good

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Speaker 2: for the Seahawks at the quarterback position. Tell you what, though,

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Speaker 2: when Warren Moon came and played a couple of years,

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Speaker 2: he and Joey Galloway, they had quite a connection. Should

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Speaker 2: have made the playoffs, except for Ian's Jets screwed him

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Speaker 2: in a game on a Vinie Testaverdi goal line run

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Speaker 2: that never should have been.

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Speaker 3: Oh it's the worst. Don't worry. You weren't even alive then, Ian,

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Speaker 3: don't worry about it. All right, that's it for this podcast.

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Speaker 3: It's true. I think it was in ninety eight. It happened.

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Speaker 6: It's true.

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Speaker 7: Trip down memory lane.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, just take a look. There was no there was

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Speaker 2: no instant replay. It was a part of the Dennis

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Speaker 2: Ericsson eight and eight experiment where they swear they went

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Speaker 2: eight to eight five years in a row. But yeah,

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Speaker 2: it was. It was back then. Screwed the Seahawks big time.

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Speaker 2: All right, that's it for this podcast.

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Speaker 7: Fun.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the Misery loves company. So hopefully if you're miserable

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Speaker 2: or at least with your fan base or your fan

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Speaker 2: of your team, you could relate to some of the

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Speaker 2: issues that we went with. All right, guys, when we

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Speaker 2: are back, it'll be week nine. We'll get your lineups,

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Speaker 2: get set for everything that you need to know, and

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Speaker 2: we'll get back to brass tacks here. And I want

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Speaker 2: your flex So for my Carmen and Ian Roddy, I'm

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Speaker 2: the Empire. Thanks for that therapy session. We'll talk to

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Speaker 2: you next time here, and I want your flex