1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 1: All right, guys, it is Kaylan from The Fred Show. 2 00:00:03,760 --> 00:00:07,160 Speaker 1: I am here with a boy that likes girls. 3 00:00:07,440 --> 00:00:08,960 Speaker 2: Oh, okay, common how are you? 4 00:00:10,600 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 3: Is it men that like women now? Or is it? 5 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 3: Are we still sticking with that one? 6 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:16,400 Speaker 2: So funny? Are band names so funny? 7 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:17,880 Speaker 3: It's like happen. 8 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:23,239 Speaker 2: I was eighteen years old. I was on some form 9 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:26,160 Speaker 2: of psychedelic in my childhood bedroom, and I was going 10 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 2: through my iTunes and I was going through song names. 11 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:32,479 Speaker 2: And I have tried to go back and look at 12 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 2: my iTunes from the era, right, Like I have backups 13 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:37,720 Speaker 2: from two thousand and four of like what songs I had, 14 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:40,959 Speaker 2: like taken my CD and like upload them in. I 15 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:44,320 Speaker 2: think it was blurs girls and boys. But basically I 16 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 2: would write down songs that inspired me, okay, or a name, 17 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:51,560 Speaker 2: and then later I would like look at them augment 18 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 2: the name. So can this is like this is like 19 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:55,640 Speaker 2: a list of three hundred names, right, So everybody's got 20 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:58,720 Speaker 2: these these like grandiose stories about how they got their 21 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 2: band name. Ninety nine point nine percent of the time 22 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:04,040 Speaker 2: they made that up. They made it up. They made 23 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:04,400 Speaker 2: it up. 24 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:06,560 Speaker 3: I believe that did you get it up? 25 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:09,480 Speaker 2: I think we used to have a story that was 26 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:11,680 Speaker 2: a made up story, was made up story. It was 27 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 2: like it was like you know, it was I would read, 28 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 2: I would pull open pages of the dictionary beef and I, 29 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:19,560 Speaker 2: you know, the drummer would call each like, what are 30 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 2: we going to call this thing? We've been calling it 31 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:24,480 Speaker 2: Lancasters the town I was born in Massachusetts. Kind of 32 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 2: a boring band name. We're trying to like do something 33 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 2: that would be you know. It was the dawn of 34 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:30,840 Speaker 2: sort of MySpace and Pure Volume and these things were like, 35 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 2: you know, band names like that, we're like a little 36 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 2: out there. Like specifically Panic at the disco at the 37 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 2: big exclamation point was like drawing people's attention. There was 38 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:43,400 Speaker 2: another band at the time that's had sort of a 39 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 2: zany name. Everyone was a cute as what we aim 40 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 2: for and everybody's clicking what is that? Right? Like what 41 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:49,640 Speaker 2: is that? Like what I have to kill? I have 42 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 2: to click on that? And boring, you know. So it 43 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 2: was one of three hundred band names on a page, 44 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 2: and that was the one like I, you know, I 45 00:01:57,600 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 2: woke up to some emails from like you know, the 46 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 2: band members and and collaborators that was like, I think 47 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 2: this name is amazing and I didn't even remember writing 48 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:09,799 Speaker 2: it down and it was boys like girls, so maybe 49 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:14,080 Speaker 2: it's men like women now, maybe it's right. It's been 50 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 2: a strange journey, like people have like you know, had 51 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:18,359 Speaker 2: to turn their T shirts inside out because they thought 52 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:21,119 Speaker 2: it was a political and political statement. You know. It's 53 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:24,360 Speaker 2: just like, yeah, yeah, it's just like you know, twenty 54 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:26,919 Speaker 2: twenty one culture. It's just you know, it's it's it's been. 55 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 2: It's been a confusing journey. I think the thing that 56 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 2: about the band name that's the biggest difficulty for us 57 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:35,119 Speaker 2: is TSA agents at five thirty am when they asked, 58 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 2: we just say Metallica. 59 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:38,239 Speaker 3: Now you just lie. 60 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:42,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, imagine imagine what when you oh, they got the 61 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:45,760 Speaker 2: sixteen dudes and black hoodies walk in with the hoods 62 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 2: up and their headphones on, you know what I mean, 63 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 2: and they're like, ooh, it's the name of the band, right, 64 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 2: like the TSA agents just four thirty in the morning, 65 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 2: nobody slept and then we you know, we unleashed this 66 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 2: band name, and then they just what's what comment comes next? Right? 67 00:02:57,560 --> 00:02:59,399 Speaker 2: Like what are they going to They're going to fire 68 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:02,520 Speaker 2: off some joke, right, and we're just like oh yeah, now, 69 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 2: I'm in Steely Dan, So you know you're welcome. Are 70 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:07,679 Speaker 2: You've been graced by the presence of greatness and yacht 71 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 2: rock period. 72 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 1: So you do what I do at the bar and 73 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 1: just make up stories about myself, makeup names, and so. 74 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:15,640 Speaker 2: When you get hit on it, when you get hit 75 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 2: on the bar, you just you like you you just 76 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:19,079 Speaker 2: make up stuff. You're just like, oh yeah, yeah. 77 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 1: It depends like it depends on the night, depends on 78 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 1: the vibes. Sometimes I have a different name. Sometimes I'm 79 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 1: like a flight attendant. I don't know, like I just 80 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 1: don't want to talk about it sometimes, or sometimes I 81 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:29,640 Speaker 1: want to be someone else. 82 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:31,519 Speaker 2: So when I was living and when I was living 83 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 2: in Los Angeles, I found out like app I was 84 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 2: pretty lonely. It was like my late twenties early thirties, 85 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 2: like before I met my wife, and I found app 86 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 2: dating to be I found updating to be nauseating in 87 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 2: Los Angeles because everybody's first question is what do you 88 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 2: do for work? Are you are you cool? Do you 89 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 2: have a blue check mark? And do you do you 90 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 2: make money? You know what I mean? And so I 91 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 2: started saying, you know, you know, I started saying that 92 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 2: I was like a custom like Edward Scissorhands, Like I 93 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 2: like I cut all like you would hire me to 94 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 2: go and my team would make all your hedges look 95 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 2: like dolphins and bell Air. So like the very very 96 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 2: very upscale hedges, I would like turn them into people 97 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 2: like like a modern Edward Scissorhands, and it weed it out. 98 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 2: It weeded out the riff rap for sure. On the 99 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 2: dating apps. 100 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:18,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, there grows in general. I'm not really like down 101 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 1: to sell myself. I don't feel like I should have to. 102 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:25,360 Speaker 1: And also I love the really specific nature of the job. 103 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 1: You picked the hedge trimmer because the host of our 104 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 1: show used to tell girls that he was like an 105 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 1: art dealer for hotel art, which is like always awful, 106 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:34,240 Speaker 1: you know, but it's like a specific kind of art 107 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 1: that you'll get in Like but he'd say it's for 108 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:37,920 Speaker 1: like you know, the Hampton in or whatever, and. 109 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:40,039 Speaker 2: It's just like, do you have do you have a 110 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 2: hedge for me to trim? I'll like, I'll literally turn 111 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:44,920 Speaker 2: it into like a humpback whale, like I got you, 112 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 2: you know, And I know this is like I'm mad 113 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 2: and it's la so they believe it. No, no, no, no, 114 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:55,560 Speaker 2: watch me I'm an artist. Yeah, if you were spooked 115 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 2: by that, I'm like cool. Like if you were like 116 00:04:57,320 --> 00:04:59,800 Speaker 2: I think he's kidding, like like this is interesting, then 117 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:02,719 Speaker 2: you know you may you level up. But like, dude, 118 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 2: I'm so happy to be like not single. How did you? Dude? 119 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 2: It's like ordering a pizza. You're like ordering your next 120 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 2: date from the toilet. It's like, you know, you're just 121 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 2: I don't want to I don't want to be ordered 122 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 2: like like like you know, like a pineapple pepperoni, Like 123 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:24,359 Speaker 2: I don't you know what I mean. It's different than that. 124 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:26,160 Speaker 2: This terrifying. 125 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:27,920 Speaker 3: I do know what you mean. How did you meet 126 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 3: your wife? 127 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 1: Then? 128 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:30,160 Speaker 3: Did she go for the hedge trimming? 129 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:32,599 Speaker 2: No? No, she didn't go for the hedge trimming. It 130 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:34,840 Speaker 2: was similar you've ever seen the movie Ten Things I 131 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:37,360 Speaker 2: Hate About You? Also sort of an Internet thing to 132 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 2: be honest, it was a little bit embarrassing. But so 133 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 2: I'm in a group chat. It started out as a 134 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 2: flag football group chat, but it's with a bunch of 135 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:46,240 Speaker 2: country artists. So this is like party and Earnest and 136 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 2: Dan from Dan and Shay and Devin Dawson and like 137 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:51,480 Speaker 2: a bunch of country writers. Paul who's original member of 138 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:53,039 Speaker 2: Boys Like Girls is in there. He's a big country 139 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:59,719 Speaker 2: producer now. A bunch of dudes, right, And I think 140 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:05,240 Speaker 2: it Mitchell Tenpenny who was daring. He's married now and 141 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:07,720 Speaker 2: very happy. But I remember the boys were all sending 142 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 2: screenshots of my now wife from her Instagram, basically daring 143 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:15,479 Speaker 2: me to send her a DM. Okay, like yeah, she 144 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 2: wasn't giving people attention. Whatever, it's ten things I hate 145 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 2: about you, And I was like, I got you boys, 146 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:21,720 Speaker 2: like if there's one thing I can like, like, well, 147 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:24,159 Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'm gonna conquer this, like I got like, 148 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 2: I just you know, it's the locker room and I 149 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 2: just wanted to impress the guys. So I slipped in 150 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 2: her DMS and uh, what'd you say? I said something 151 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 2: so kind of kind of rude. I think I said, like, 152 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 2: I'm a big fan of your work, but I wasn't 153 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:43,919 Speaker 2: talking about her music, you know what I mean? And 154 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:45,919 Speaker 2: uh no, I was trying to make her laugh, like 155 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:47,719 Speaker 2: if you have like a sense of humor, like that's 156 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:51,039 Speaker 2: kind of funny. I it ended up being like it 157 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 2: ended up being with her, We're like she was such 158 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:56,359 Speaker 2: might I allowed to say bitch on the radio. 159 00:06:57,320 --> 00:06:58,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, go for it and we'll figure out. 160 00:06:59,279 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 2: She was such a bitch back that I was like, whoa, Okay, 161 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:06,360 Speaker 2: she was like this got like yeah, I had written 162 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 2: I'd written that, like next her band made on a 163 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 2: plane and and like so she knew. She didn't know. 164 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 2: She didn't know, she'd never she grew up kind of 165 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 2: like she grew up like Mennonites. She didn't know who 166 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 2: boys like girls was she She thought I was like 167 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 2: a songwriter, like a songwriter for other people, kind of exclusively. 168 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 2: She was confused. I was messaging her from my kind 169 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 2: of like sold the project Moniker account called the Night Game. 170 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 2: She's like, why is this guy trying to be an artist? 171 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 2: Like I don't understand why all these songwriters try to 172 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 2: be artists, And you know, she was just dude. We 173 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 2: got on the phone eventually, and I learned that she 174 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 2: was one of eleven kids and grew up in a 175 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 2: school bus, and like I was, I was so done 176 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 2: dating women. Were their job description had like seven slashes 177 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 2: in it, you know. 178 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:48,520 Speaker 3: Like. 179 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 2: Songwriter, singer, actor, model, Like I was just kind of 180 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 2: like anything that felt interesting. I was like, okay, so 181 00:07:57,880 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 2: my eyes got open, right and it was it became 182 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 2: more then showing off to the guy. So I sent 183 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 2: him a couple of screenshots and then after a while 184 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:05,600 Speaker 2: I was like, you know, I think you guys might 185 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 2: have sent me in the direction of my of my 186 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 2: future here. I don't know what to do. 187 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:13,280 Speaker 1: See that's a good story. That's a better story than 188 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 1: we met on Tinder. You know, that's just like a 189 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:15,679 Speaker 1: better story. 190 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 2: Well, I facetimed all the boys and said thank you 191 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 2: on our wedding day. You know what I man, specifically Mitchell. 192 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 3: I was like, dude, the group chat in the country. 193 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 2: Well, Mitchell dared me. Mitchell dared me to dared me 194 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 2: to dm R And then like, I remember she's the 195 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 2: homies with him, so like, I remember she played played shows, 196 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 2: and I remember her like telling me months later, she's like, 197 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:36,600 Speaker 2: you know, I called him. I was like, what do 198 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 2: you think about this guy? And he's like, you'd probably 199 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 2: be fun for a night, but I don't know if 200 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 2: it's going to be like that. Thanks dude, Thanks dude. 201 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 2: I had to fight my way back from that one. Dude. 202 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 2: I'm probably right, he was probably right at the time, 203 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:48,240 Speaker 2: but well, that's all. 204 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 3: He's known from you and then you met the one, and. 205 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:51,840 Speaker 2: Then you're never ready to you're ready, You're never ready 206 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:52,680 Speaker 2: to do You're ready, right. 207 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:55,439 Speaker 1: I'm I'm glad you brought up like back in the 208 00:08:55,520 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 1: day because I really need to show you. Okay, So 209 00:08:57,400 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 1: the last time I saw Boys Like Girls it was 210 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:03,320 Speaker 1: July two thousand and seven at Warped Tour in Detroit, Michigan. 211 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 3: Okay, and thank. 212 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 2: You for you making your way to the hurly side stage. 213 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 2: Were we both remained that day or did you have 214 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:10,320 Speaker 2: to fight through the crowd? 215 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:10,840 Speaker 3: Okay? 216 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:13,600 Speaker 1: So I want to show you the horrendous photo I 217 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:16,440 Speaker 1: posted on Facebook where you can't even see you guys, like, 218 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:19,480 Speaker 1: please look at this, like where are you? And I 219 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:22,840 Speaker 1: literally the caption is boys Like Girls Like that's like, 220 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 1: so it doesn't look. 221 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:24,720 Speaker 3: Like I made it to the front. 222 00:09:24,880 --> 00:09:26,520 Speaker 2: I do know it was a wild time that we, 223 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:30,720 Speaker 2: I mean, Boys Like Girls effectively went from zero to 224 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 2: one hundred on the course of that warp tour. We're 225 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 2: booked as a side stage band, and by the end, 226 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 2: you know, like by the end of the tour, we like, 227 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:39,400 Speaker 2: you know, we didn't have a bank account, we didn't 228 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 2: have a business manager, we didn't really know what we 229 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 2: were doing. We had to hire somebody out of the 230 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:47,080 Speaker 2: circus tent to sell more booty shorts at the merchant 231 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:49,120 Speaker 2: tent because all of a sudden we were, you know, 232 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 2: competing for merchan numbers with paramore warped tours back then 233 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:56,200 Speaker 2: was and now it is still sort of like this 234 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:59,720 Speaker 2: sort of punk rock like everybody's equal, you know. So 235 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:02,200 Speaker 2: if we signed up to play the early stage, like 236 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 2: probably not going to get bumped to Maine. So they 237 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:06,839 Speaker 2: were like, you know, it went from kind of having 238 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:09,560 Speaker 2: a little bit of a humble crowd to like they're 239 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 2: being you know, people getting hurt trying to get to 240 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:13,319 Speaker 2: the side stage because they assume we're on Maine. It's 241 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 2: a crazy summer. I mean, I'll remember it for the 242 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:15,920 Speaker 2: rest of my life. 243 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:16,880 Speaker 3: Me too. 244 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 1: And I want to tell you, like I've I've had 245 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 1: the opportunity to interview you know, cool people, Like it's 246 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 1: I have a great job, but like there's nothing like 247 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:28,400 Speaker 1: interviewing someone that's such a part of that Like and 248 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:30,720 Speaker 1: this is there's scientific research, but that's such a pivotal 249 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:32,960 Speaker 1: part of like that part of your life. Like I 250 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:34,560 Speaker 1: was in high school, I think around the same time 251 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:36,200 Speaker 1: as you guys, were at least when. 252 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:39,040 Speaker 3: You were coming up, and I. 253 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:39,959 Speaker 2: Like, what year did you graduate? 254 00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 3: I graduated? Oh nine? 255 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, okay, I mean you're perfect. You're the epicenter. 256 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 2: You're like the epicenter of the demographic. For our first record, 257 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 2: I graduated in four, so it's like. 258 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 3: Going into freshman year. I think in five. 259 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:56,760 Speaker 2: So yeah, freshman year, so like so your sophomore year. 260 00:10:57,080 --> 00:11:01,079 Speaker 2: The most formative records for me period are sophomore year 261 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:03,800 Speaker 2: records of high school. The like the ten records I 262 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:06,720 Speaker 2: was working at Hot Topic in Salem, New Hampshire, and 263 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 2: the ten records that came in and hit that little 264 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:10,960 Speaker 2: CD shelf and I use my employee discount like they're 265 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:13,960 Speaker 2: the ones that I go, I revert to, and. 266 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:16,160 Speaker 1: It's the feeling that I get when I put your 267 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:18,720 Speaker 1: music on. Specifically, I want to tell you because I 268 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:21,480 Speaker 1: don't know that I'll ever feel this excited or this 269 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 1: free again. 270 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:25,600 Speaker 3: I feel like it's it's Friday. I feel like my 271 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 3: friend Lindsay's mom is out of town. 272 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:31,040 Speaker 1: There's about to be a party. I know there's going 273 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:33,439 Speaker 1: to be like I don't know, like cigarettes and like 274 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:35,959 Speaker 1: Burnett's or something that's flavored, and I know that like 275 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:39,599 Speaker 1: I have a crush on this guy and the feelings 276 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 1: and like I feel like I don't know if anything's 277 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:44,679 Speaker 1: ever made me as happy sense as when I knew, 278 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:46,600 Speaker 1: Like we had a free house for a party, and 279 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 1: it's just driving around being idiots, like windows down. So 280 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:54,160 Speaker 1: like I when I listen, I have that feeling again, 281 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:55,920 Speaker 1: which I think is is rare. 282 00:11:56,040 --> 00:11:56,840 Speaker 3: And it's everything. 283 00:11:57,280 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 2: It's why you know, it's interesting. I wish you were 284 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 2: a mascot. On my last interview, I was talking about 285 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:05,439 Speaker 2: they're like tell us the story behind the Great Escape, 286 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 2: and I was kind of like I gave this big, 287 00:12:07,559 --> 00:12:09,840 Speaker 2: kind of long emotional answer about how I don't it's 288 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:14,480 Speaker 2: not really mine anymore, you know, And it's you know, 289 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 2: you write a song when you're eighteen, and it means 290 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:19,000 Speaker 2: something to you, and it's it's hard to find a pinhole, 291 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:21,680 Speaker 2: Like like songs that are easy to write tend to 292 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:27,000 Speaker 2: be about pain or heartbreak, and this is a song 293 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 2: about like kind of joy and a specific summer. And 294 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:34,720 Speaker 2: that specific summer is like that last summer of high 295 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:37,600 Speaker 2: school before the real world starts and you feel infinite 296 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:39,960 Speaker 2: and you feel unlimited, and those those friends you feel 297 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:42,080 Speaker 2: like you're gonna have them or I'm lucky I've had. 298 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:45,080 Speaker 2: I still have those friends we have you know, matching 299 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:48,400 Speaker 2: three Amigo's tattoos and whatever. But it's really just about 300 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:51,160 Speaker 2: you know, running over trash cans in my own old 301 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:53,720 Speaker 2: ninety nine jeep Cherokee sport, you know, like being like 302 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:56,400 Speaker 2: we're gonna get out, and like you know, trading off 303 00:12:56,400 --> 00:12:59,199 Speaker 2: whose basement you're hanging out in to you know, smoke 304 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:02,120 Speaker 2: a bowl in order to doms and passed around the acoustic 305 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:04,760 Speaker 2: guitar and the song I was playing on acoustic guitar 306 00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:07,959 Speaker 2: was that one or Thunder or whatever, and some of 307 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:09,720 Speaker 2: my friends would sing along maybe if I was lucky, 308 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 2: and I just you know, it's funny. It'says like I 309 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 2: can say, like, yeah, I wrote that song, but also 310 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:19,800 Speaker 2: right like, I think the legacy of what it stands 311 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:22,720 Speaker 2: for has really nothing to do with our band. It 312 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:24,839 Speaker 2: has nothing to do with me as a songwriter. I 313 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:27,200 Speaker 2: don't even remember the kid who wrote it, you know 314 00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:29,960 Speaker 2: what I But what I remember is the way people 315 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:32,920 Speaker 2: reacted to that song because it encompasses you never have 316 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:36,280 Speaker 2: another chance. The records that imprinted on me when I 317 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 2: was a sophomore in high school really it's like fifteen, 318 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:41,440 Speaker 2: you know what I mean, right before you get your 319 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:43,960 Speaker 2: driver's license, or like that first three records you have 320 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:48,600 Speaker 2: in your first car burn Like it's I don't know 321 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:52,080 Speaker 2: that you pick them. I think they pick you, and 322 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:55,120 Speaker 2: you know, I'm happy we picked you, but I don't 323 00:13:55,160 --> 00:13:57,080 Speaker 2: know that it was even our choice. I think it 324 00:13:57,120 --> 00:13:59,600 Speaker 2: was just that was the time. That was the time, 325 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:04,920 Speaker 2: you know, I mean, and that was the CD that Yeah, 326 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:06,960 Speaker 2: it was a burnt CD, you know, the burnt memory 327 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:10,160 Speaker 2: X that you gravitated to. And I don't I don't 328 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:11,600 Speaker 2: really know if he even has anything to do with 329 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:14,480 Speaker 2: my songwriting like it. I think it's more about there 330 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 2: was a cultural moment in time and I was seven 331 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 2: oh eight, where like that was custom built for basements 332 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 2: and freedom. 333 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it was. 334 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:25,800 Speaker 1: But I do think it has a little bit to 335 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 1: do with your tail and I wouldn't saw that short, 336 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:29,640 Speaker 1: but I yeah, I just the feeling I get. I 337 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 1: texted my friends that I went to that work to 338 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:34,040 Speaker 1: her with for this interview and was just like, you're 339 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 1: not going to believe when I'm interviewing and like going 340 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 1: through the. 341 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:37,880 Speaker 3: Album and everything. 342 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 1: So and my sister's thirteen years younger, and so I 343 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 1: tried to explain to her this whole era of like 344 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:45,880 Speaker 1: she didn't grow up with she's still in college. She 345 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 1: didn't grow up with like emo kids, Like she didn't 346 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:50,120 Speaker 1: grow up with MySpace. She didn't grow up with like 347 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:52,800 Speaker 1: seeing kids like she just doesn't, you know, like I 348 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:54,640 Speaker 1: miss having in a way message like I want in 349 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 1: a way message now where I can put like the 350 00:14:57,800 --> 00:15:00,800 Speaker 1: most dramatic taking back Sunday lyric, which was like I 351 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:04,000 Speaker 1: was too young to be writing this, but I with 352 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:06,920 Speaker 1: my one last gasping breath, I'd apologize for bleeding on 353 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:07,880 Speaker 1: your shirt, you know. 354 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:11,560 Speaker 2: Literally like your voice. Your voice was the soundtrack of 355 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 2: my summer. Was a girl's away message. 356 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:16,680 Speaker 3: That I had a crush on you still remember, right? 357 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:19,520 Speaker 2: And I ripped it out of her voice memo, and 358 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:21,880 Speaker 2: now it's the name of our tour. No not voice memo, 359 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:24,640 Speaker 2: her away message, I don't even know. I was like, 360 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:27,240 Speaker 2: this is just like she wrote in a like an 361 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 2: emotional away message. I was like, that's a lyric. 362 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's so gosh. 363 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:34,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it must just be something about that age, 364 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:36,880 Speaker 1: because I feel like nothing will make me feel that 365 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:39,360 Speaker 1: way sense. And I it's like, is there a lyric 366 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:41,560 Speaker 1: that you wrote at the time that's like way too 367 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 1: dramatic for like you look back and you're like, Okay, 368 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 1: I was like an eighteen year old kid on my floor. 369 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 1: That's a little or or something that you think of 370 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 1: when I bring up like an away message or something 371 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 1: like that. 372 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:53,640 Speaker 2: I mean, like, AH kind of came into boys like 373 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 2: girls right fresh off of doing musical theater, so drama 374 00:15:57,160 --> 00:16:00,160 Speaker 2: was like part of it. Yep, I didn't even know well, 375 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:02,920 Speaker 2: I don't even know that I ever responded to the 376 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 2: E word right, Like. It's funny because my band at 377 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:08,680 Speaker 2: the time was considered a pop rock band because we 378 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:11,200 Speaker 2: were like straight to Top forty radio. But there was 379 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:14,600 Speaker 2: like we had the straight hair and the jeans and 380 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 2: the era, so it was therefore like it almost got 381 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 2: labeled that after, which is funny because at the time 382 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 2: we were like we were too pop for a taking 383 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 2: back Sunday show or a brand new show, you know 384 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 2: what I mean. But we were too rock until we 385 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:33,840 Speaker 2: had top forty hits to you know, be in the 386 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:36,400 Speaker 2: same conversation with who was played on Top forty. I mean, 387 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:38,840 Speaker 2: it was very strange. We went from sort of like 388 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 2: opening these like VFW halls for like Hello goodbye to 389 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:47,200 Speaker 2: like being played after Ferdy and Mario on top forty 390 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:49,840 Speaker 2: to forty stations, sort of like carving our own way. 391 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:51,960 Speaker 3: Goodbye was my ring tone. 392 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:55,440 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying that song, that song was 393 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 2: a bag. I think that's overlooked song by the way, 394 00:16:57,920 --> 00:17:04,280 Speaker 2: oh one Big one, Yes, the special track, It's kind 395 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 2: of overlooked. But yeah, I mean, you know, listen, I 396 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:11,919 Speaker 2: I think there was that era that I'm grateful for 397 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 2: that era and it made us who we are the 398 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:15,160 Speaker 2: way that I look at it, And I think you're 399 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:18,320 Speaker 2: trying to pinpoint why it felt so special and also 400 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:22,600 Speaker 2: so freeing, and it's it was. I think it was 401 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:24,679 Speaker 2: the last moment in time, regardless of what you want 402 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:26,000 Speaker 2: to call it. You want to call it the E word, 403 00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:27,359 Speaker 2: you want to call it pop punk, you want to 404 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:29,160 Speaker 2: call it pop rock, you want to call it mid 405 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:34,920 Speaker 2: two thousands bands, whatever, Right, Yeah, it was the last 406 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 2: time music indicated culture and not the opposite way, because 407 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:44,520 Speaker 2: starting in twenty ten, I believe culture started to indicate 408 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:48,160 Speaker 2: music because music got started to build to a peas 409 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:51,760 Speaker 2: and algorithm when streaming got introduced, and I don't really 410 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:56,639 Speaker 2: remember people heavily using streaming services or social media for 411 00:17:56,680 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 2: that matter, until twenty ten, when guitars got pushed off 412 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:03,240 Speaker 2: the radio and all of a sudden, culture started indicating 413 00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:08,359 Speaker 2: indicating music and instead of music and indicating culture. So 414 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:13,720 Speaker 2: you had this group of people that you related to 415 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:16,639 Speaker 2: you because you all like the same band, like the 416 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:19,600 Speaker 2: same music, right and and and if you were just 417 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:22,879 Speaker 2: like you know, if you were just like casually listening 418 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:24,960 Speaker 2: to Sean Kingston or something right like. 419 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 1: Well, I mean Kingston, but like casually listening to Sean Kingston. 420 00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 2: It's in my head because there's this there's this awesome 421 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:35,600 Speaker 2: jingle jam shirt from like Minneapolis or something or Buffalo 422 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:37,920 Speaker 2: and like our faces from like a two thousand and 423 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:41,000 Speaker 2: seven photo or like directly next to Sean Kingston. And 424 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:46,240 Speaker 2: it's just like, oh yeah, like that shirt it's so juicyl. 425 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:48,439 Speaker 2: It's just right there like they we're like, it's like 426 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:50,439 Speaker 2: we're in the same band as Lady Gaga. It's awesome. 427 00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:54,359 Speaker 2: But no, I don't believe, like you know, so, I 428 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:58,919 Speaker 2: believe that there's this feeling that music has never really 429 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:02,680 Speaker 2: did who you hang out with, how you dress, since 430 00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:05,359 Speaker 2: maybe a little bit like edm Era like people wearing 431 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:08,600 Speaker 2: weird straps and stuff in twenty thirteen, like on their pants. 432 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:10,879 Speaker 2: But I don't know that that was the same you 433 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:12,399 Speaker 2: know I'm talking about, But I don't know if that 434 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:14,800 Speaker 2: was there too. Yeah, I don't know if that was 435 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:18,240 Speaker 2: the same thing as like, you know, a group of 436 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:21,480 Speaker 2: kind of crappy bands playing a VFW hall, like just 437 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 2: trying to get a record deal with Drive Through. Like, 438 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:28,120 Speaker 2: it's a different you were part of you were part 439 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:30,200 Speaker 2: of a movement, you were part of a cult. It 440 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:32,960 Speaker 2: was a it was a different and I don't know that, 441 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:36,120 Speaker 2: you know, Like I Noel Gallagher has a really interesting 442 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:42,600 Speaker 2: quote about like the Nebworth documentary and that show it's 443 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:44,720 Speaker 2: like ninety six and he's like, that was the last 444 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 2: time like really before the Internet. And you can see 445 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:49,159 Speaker 2: it on the people's faces when they're at Networth. It's 446 00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 2: a couple hundred thousand people in a field free. Yeah, 447 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 2: I mean they're free, you know what I mean. And 448 00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:57,880 Speaker 2: so this that area you're talking about, oh seven work 449 00:19:57,960 --> 00:20:02,879 Speaker 2: tour probably the last time before people were documenting stuff 450 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:05,120 Speaker 2: to post online. Maybe they had a Facebook page, maybe 451 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:07,200 Speaker 2: they had a mice Pace page. Different you were doing 452 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:09,720 Speaker 2: a photodomp stuff like two hundred blurror photos. It's not 453 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:13,680 Speaker 2: the same thing. Yeah, you weren't curating a brand for yourself. 454 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:15,960 Speaker 2: You didn't feel like you had to brand yourself, and 455 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:20,199 Speaker 2: so you were still there. You were there, And you know, 456 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:22,639 Speaker 2: I've never been but I've never been somebody that cocks 457 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:25,320 Speaker 2: it a cultural change. Like I don't think like being 458 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 2: being like the you know, the boomer with their hands 459 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:30,600 Speaker 2: up like you darned kids, is like ever gonna be 460 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:34,440 Speaker 2: my vibe? You know? But our music's always been free, right, 461 00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:36,600 Speaker 2: Like I mean, we put out our first record in 462 00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 2: two thousand and six. I mean two thousand and six, 463 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:41,880 Speaker 2: music was free, right free. It's right, you just put 464 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:44,320 Speaker 2: a win to line warres free. Our record was free. 465 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:48,000 Speaker 2: Our first album was free. It is a miracle that 466 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 2: we sold a million of them, you know what I mean, 467 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:51,479 Speaker 2: like cause it was free. It was a free record, 468 00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:53,240 Speaker 2: so it was love drunk. It was a free record. 469 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:58,080 Speaker 2: So I'm I've never been like this darned technology, But 470 00:20:58,160 --> 00:20:59,959 Speaker 2: I do believe that it's changed the way that we 471 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:02,760 Speaker 2: consume music and identify ourselves based on the music we 472 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:05,960 Speaker 2: listen to. People kids don't do that anymore, have you 473 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:09,439 Speaker 2: met anybody under under twenty five who identifies themselves bathed 474 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:12,560 Speaker 2: on the type of music they listen to. No, they've 475 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:15,639 Speaker 2: got like you know, they've got like mishmash playlist. It 476 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:17,880 Speaker 2: doesn't even make their playlist doesn't even make sense. It's 477 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 2: like my chemical romance is sitting like, you know, next 478 00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:24,160 Speaker 2: to Kendrick Lamar, Right, Yeah, I mean she's like next 479 00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:26,320 Speaker 2: to Zach Bryan. You know, it's like it doesn't it's 480 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:30,360 Speaker 2: it's they just like the songs. It doesn't indicate what 481 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:33,439 Speaker 2: shirt they wear and what size geenes they wear, and 482 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 2: whether or not they sharpie their vans. 483 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:40,280 Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, No, I one hundred percent know what you mean. 484 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 3: And I liked it all like I was. 485 00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:44,040 Speaker 1: I mean, you keep talking about the E word, but 486 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:47,240 Speaker 1: I listened to like Tupac, you guys, and Taylor Swift. 487 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:49,879 Speaker 1: So when you and Taylor Swift wrote a song together, 488 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:54,320 Speaker 1: it was like my worlds were like colliding. I regard 489 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:56,919 Speaker 1: her as like one of the greatest songwriters along with 490 00:21:57,000 --> 00:22:00,919 Speaker 1: like I like think Noah consa great songwriter, Phoebe Rigers, 491 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:02,240 Speaker 1: Like who would it be for you? 492 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:04,080 Speaker 3: Because I can tell that, I mean, you're you're a 493 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:04,720 Speaker 3: great songwriter. 494 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 2: So I mean, you're not wrong. You're not wrong, You're 495 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:09,840 Speaker 2: not wrong. I mean, I I've written with a lot 496 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:14,119 Speaker 2: of people, and she's some masterclass. She was eighteen. 497 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:15,840 Speaker 3: We wrote that she was so young at the time, 498 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:16,760 Speaker 3: and she didn't. 499 00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:18,680 Speaker 2: We didn't. We didn't write too was Bey the one together? 500 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:20,399 Speaker 2: But we wrote it. We wrote a bunch of songs together. 501 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:26,479 Speaker 2: And I mean I probably learned more watching her right 502 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:29,560 Speaker 2: than anybody really knew who her fans were. And it 503 00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 2: was super, super, super impressive but great. I mean, like, 504 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:36,159 Speaker 2: you know, I look up to the gray. It's just 505 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:40,399 Speaker 2: like Max Martin and m hmm kind of this the 506 00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:44,560 Speaker 2: pop songwriters, and I you know, more and more now 507 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:49,439 Speaker 2: I'm looking at you know, eighties and nineties because it 508 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:52,320 Speaker 2: was those were one hundred percenters. Man, it's like one 509 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:54,240 Speaker 2: person try to find the chart and try to find 510 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:56,320 Speaker 2: the song that has one songwriter on it. You know, 511 00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:58,080 Speaker 2: there's a lot of songs on our first record that 512 00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:01,119 Speaker 2: are one hundred percenters, you know, Heroin and Thunder and whatever. 513 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:06,120 Speaker 2: But it's rare now. And it's funny because I think 514 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:09,080 Speaker 2: people are gravitating going back to that because it's a 515 00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:13,120 Speaker 2: little less jingly. They want to feel something and they 516 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:16,119 Speaker 2: want to hear a true story. And what more truth 517 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:20,680 Speaker 2: than like wrestling with a pen and paper for days 518 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:23,000 Speaker 2: instead of you know, going into a songwriting where I'm 519 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 2: at eleven eleven with like, you know, six hit songwriters 520 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:27,600 Speaker 2: and just trying to you know, cust and build something. 521 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:28,600 Speaker 3: Yeah. 522 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:30,520 Speaker 2: So, I you know, I don't know, like when I 523 00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:33,639 Speaker 2: it's one of my favorite songs. I it's not my 524 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:35,639 Speaker 2: favorite song of all time. It's you know, One Headlight 525 00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:39,440 Speaker 2: by the Wallflowers. One writer. It's an amazing one songwriter, 526 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:41,040 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. The One Headlight Comes Now 527 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:42,879 Speaker 2: out now is like nine writers on it. 528 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:45,879 Speaker 1: Wait, who is he the son of He's the He's right? Okay, 529 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:48,600 Speaker 1: oh duh, Okay, there you go. Okay, Yeah, No, nineties 530 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:50,840 Speaker 1: music is I mean my nineties place, I don't want 531 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:53,119 Speaker 1: to brag is amazing. But yeah, I think nineties music 532 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:55,440 Speaker 1: is my favorite. I'm not as as into eighties music, 533 00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:59,320 Speaker 1: but nineties is something I always go back to and 534 00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:01,880 Speaker 1: like than the early two thousand. But yeah, maybe it's 535 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:03,560 Speaker 1: just because that was what I was listening to when 536 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:04,199 Speaker 1: I was growing up. 537 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:04,639 Speaker 3: I don't know. 538 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:09,280 Speaker 2: I don't think you ever get a second chance at 539 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:11,760 Speaker 2: the music that built you during you know, from ten 540 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:15,040 Speaker 2: to eighteen. Like it's just and you think you look 541 00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:17,320 Speaker 2: at you look at people even like our age, right, 542 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:20,639 Speaker 2: you're a little younger than me, but like they revert 543 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:23,040 Speaker 2: to the same playlist. It gives them comfort. They're not 544 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:26,560 Speaker 2: they're not digging for new tunes. They're just not. So 545 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:29,040 Speaker 2: it's like whatever in prints on you when you're when 546 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:32,840 Speaker 2: the world is imprinting on you, and the memories that 547 00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:35,920 Speaker 2: you take to that they represent freedom, they represent youth, 548 00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:39,119 Speaker 2: It represents you know, that feeling of like you know, 549 00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:43,119 Speaker 2: you didn't have taxes to pay at seventeen. No, some people, 550 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:45,879 Speaker 2: some people had crappy lives, some people had crappy parents, 551 00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:48,399 Speaker 2: some people had it difficult. Not everybody was in like 552 00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:52,359 Speaker 2: suburban glory. But I don't think you get a second. 553 00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:55,960 Speaker 2: I don't think you get a choice. It's just it's 554 00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:59,920 Speaker 2: what what burnt CD was in your best friends most 555 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:01,480 Speaker 2: and that's the one. 556 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:04,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I was the CD burner and I'm like 557 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:05,640 Speaker 1: the musical one in the group. 558 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:08,119 Speaker 2: So I just like, yeah, it means my venmo is 559 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:10,720 Speaker 2: Martin says. At Martin says, you can venmo me twelve 560 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:15,360 Speaker 2: ninety nine, Okay, per per record. Okay, I'll make sure 561 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:16,280 Speaker 2: to share it with the boys. 562 00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:17,680 Speaker 3: Okay, don't spend it. 563 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:19,359 Speaker 2: Thank you for how many times did you burn it 564 00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:20,920 Speaker 2: for a friend? It's what I want to know after 565 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:22,600 Speaker 2: after cutting it from LimeWire. 566 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:24,440 Speaker 3: I'm not going to tell you that. 567 00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:27,639 Speaker 2: Like fifteen Yeah, all right, I'll send you two hundred 568 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:29,080 Speaker 2: and fifty dollars in boys now. 569 00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:31,760 Speaker 3: Okay, okay, perfect, I'll pay that. I'll pay that never. 570 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:34,200 Speaker 1: But yeah, no, And it would always have some weird 571 00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:35,760 Speaker 1: like if it was a rap song in the beginning, 572 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:36,200 Speaker 1: it'd be. 573 00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:38,600 Speaker 3: Like, oh, oh shitt, where'd you find this? You know? 574 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:39,960 Speaker 3: And I would think that was part. 575 00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:43,520 Speaker 2: Of the song right right where where they had the 576 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:47,240 Speaker 2: like lime wire imprints. Yeah, and I did whatever dude 577 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:49,760 Speaker 2: who ripped it off their CD, like out of the tag. 578 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:51,800 Speaker 1: Correct or would stop in the middle or something. I 579 00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:54,560 Speaker 1: was so bummed when I couldn't see you guys. I 580 00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:56,359 Speaker 1: think you guys were with the Jonas Brothers, and so 581 00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:58,200 Speaker 1: I'm so excited that you're going back on tour. 582 00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:00,240 Speaker 3: I feel like screaming. 583 00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:02,640 Speaker 1: The music is going to be like an adult raid 584 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:05,200 Speaker 1: room for me, and I'm ready to do it all. 585 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:07,800 Speaker 1: How has it been I know, I think twenty twenty 586 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:10,360 Speaker 1: two y'all started getting back together and doing stuff. 587 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 3: Right, and how has it been? 588 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:15,639 Speaker 2: Honestly, I didn't know what to expect at like twenty 589 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:16,879 Speaker 2: twenty two. It was a little bit more of a 590 00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:20,280 Speaker 2: trial space for it, I think, you know, not only 591 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:23,600 Speaker 2: was it like making peace with these records, like I 592 00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:28,399 Speaker 2: don't really remember, you know, I don't really remember making 593 00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:33,639 Speaker 2: love drunk right at all, and so making peace with 594 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:37,080 Speaker 2: them with that music. You know, I think a lot 595 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:40,919 Speaker 2: of bands their second record is like this mirror, like 596 00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:46,159 Speaker 2: really really miraculous moment. Right. They're cocky enough from blowing 597 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:48,680 Speaker 2: up that they buy a new car in a nice 598 00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:51,280 Speaker 2: leather jacket and fix their teeth and start to walk 599 00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:55,520 Speaker 2: with a swag. But they're not confused enough, you know, 600 00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:58,080 Speaker 2: that they're buying houses or anything they can't like, you know, 601 00:26:58,119 --> 00:26:59,959 Speaker 2: so they're still focused one hundred percent on their mus 602 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:02,720 Speaker 2: They're still twenty two. It's really young, you know. I 603 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:04,679 Speaker 2: think we had that, but we were also we were 604 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:08,320 Speaker 2: also getting in there pretty hard. I revisiting the material 605 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:11,840 Speaker 2: has been an exercise, and it's been an exercise in 606 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:15,560 Speaker 2: finding how how I can love that kid who wrote it? 607 00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:20,159 Speaker 2: And because I mean, like especially this tour, which is 608 00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:23,919 Speaker 2: so exciting for us to celebrate, you know, been a 609 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:26,960 Speaker 2: band since two thousand and four. We've celebrating twenty years 610 00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:30,000 Speaker 2: of released music, you know, from since two thousand and six, 611 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:32,320 Speaker 2: you know, August twenty two when our first album came out, 612 00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:34,920 Speaker 2: and so we decided to play both both of those 613 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:37,400 Speaker 2: records front to back. And we wish we could play 614 00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:39,160 Speaker 2: all four, but we decided to play the first two 615 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:42,600 Speaker 2: to really celebrate that twenty years. And you know, it's 616 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:46,680 Speaker 2: been unique stepping through rehearsal. I mean, there's just these 617 00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:50,760 Speaker 2: choices that are so clearly my twenty one year old 618 00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:53,639 Speaker 2: brain making a choice and making a musical choice, and 619 00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:56,200 Speaker 2: I would make such a different choice now. So I'm 620 00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:58,359 Speaker 2: looking at it and I'm saying, Okay, this means a 621 00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:02,639 Speaker 2: lot to me as a man. First of all, it 622 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:05,600 Speaker 2: shaped a lot of people who listened to it. And 623 00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:09,280 Speaker 2: you know, I think the most obnoxious thing possible is 624 00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:11,440 Speaker 2: when an artist either doesn't play their biggest hit. When 625 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:13,560 Speaker 2: you've bought you know, you spent forty nine dollars plus 626 00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:16,000 Speaker 2: ten dollars on an adult cocktail, plus twenty dollars to park, 627 00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:17,360 Speaker 2: and then you don't hear the song you came there 628 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:22,119 Speaker 2: to hear. So ditching that ego and ditching that mentality 629 00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:24,879 Speaker 2: so that we can step out and serve our past 630 00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:29,000 Speaker 2: selves who thought this record was a masterpiece. And maybe 631 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:31,960 Speaker 2: it is. I don't know, but you know it is, 632 00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:35,080 Speaker 2: you know, you know, twenty years later, I'm like, who 633 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:35,560 Speaker 2: wrote this? 634 00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:39,600 Speaker 1: Of course you've evolved, but it's so important, all of it, and. 635 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:41,600 Speaker 2: It's important to me, and it's important to me, and 636 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:43,640 Speaker 2: it's important to me because it was important to me then. 637 00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:47,400 Speaker 2: And I'm finding that clarity has been an evolution of 638 00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:49,120 Speaker 2: the last couple of years, you know, playing some of 639 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:51,920 Speaker 2: these songs on the Speaking Our Language tour and then 640 00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:54,640 Speaker 2: stepping into some sports support slots, watching them go over 641 00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:57,760 Speaker 2: on the Jonas Brothers tour, you know, playing the Great 642 00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:00,640 Speaker 2: Escape twice on that tour to reinf for us who 643 00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:04,000 Speaker 2: we are, which is contrary action, you know, rather than 644 00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:07,160 Speaker 2: not playing your biggest sits, it's the coolest played twice. 645 00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:11,200 Speaker 2: So you know, I think this will probably be the 646 00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:15,440 Speaker 2: tour that we're never gonna play so many songs again, 647 00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:17,040 Speaker 2: some of the deep cuts off of Love Drunk in 648 00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:19,200 Speaker 2: the first record, Like I doubt this will probably be 649 00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:21,280 Speaker 2: the last time Boys and Girls ever plays Learning to Fall. 650 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:23,160 Speaker 2: You know, it would probably be the last time Boys 651 00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:25,680 Speaker 2: that Girls ever plays Chemicals Colyde, So probably be the 652 00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:28,160 Speaker 2: last time Boys that Girls Ever heard plays the Real Thing. 653 00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:30,520 Speaker 2: And it's not because we don't like those songs, because 654 00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:31,840 Speaker 2: you know, you have a ninety minute set. We got 655 00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:34,640 Speaker 2: new music to play. There's others hits on other records. 656 00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:37,760 Speaker 2: You know, there's key songs on Crazy World and Sunday Foxhood. 657 00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:39,160 Speaker 2: We're gonna have to play. We're gonna have new music. 658 00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:42,520 Speaker 2: It's we're not gonna be able to play some you know, 659 00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:45,200 Speaker 2: We're not. We're not gonna be able to play someone 660 00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:47,520 Speaker 2: like you off the off the you know, or go 661 00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:50,240 Speaker 2: off the you know, the the other ballads off the 662 00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:53,520 Speaker 2: Love Drunk record. You know, yeah, it's gonna happen. We're 663 00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:55,960 Speaker 2: probably never gonna play Dance All Drunk again, you know 664 00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:59,440 Speaker 2: what I mean, probably not. So it's like that's really 665 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:01,840 Speaker 2: special to us, and that's that's a moment where we 666 00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:05,520 Speaker 2: get to celebrate those records and celebrate them and give 667 00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:10,000 Speaker 2: you know, yeah, to give people who grew up with it, 668 00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:12,400 Speaker 2: like you know, like what you're talking about an opportunity 669 00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:14,520 Speaker 2: to really, you know, celebrate the records the way they 670 00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:18,680 Speaker 2: remember it, burnt on that CDR in their friends car, 671 00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:22,719 Speaker 2: and and we're we're hoping to deliver, deliver a beautiful night. 672 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:24,719 Speaker 2: So you know, so that the next time we come 673 00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:27,120 Speaker 2: around next year, we're stepping in with new music and 674 00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:28,400 Speaker 2: we've taken care of business. 675 00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:30,280 Speaker 3: I love it. I'll be there. I know we got 676 00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:33,320 Speaker 3: a wrap year at a time, but I will be there. 677 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:38,120 Speaker 1: Screaming my little face off and in in true nostalgia. 678 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:39,560 Speaker 1: I have to tell you before I let you go, 679 00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:42,160 Speaker 1: and we're on. We're on in eat cities, by the way. 680 00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:45,080 Speaker 1: So that's why I'm not saying a specific chord problem 681 00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:45,880 Speaker 1: you're going through. 682 00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:47,280 Speaker 3: You know you. I know you're going through Salt Lake City. 683 00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:48,880 Speaker 1: I know you're coming to Chicago, which is where we're 684 00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:50,640 Speaker 1: based out of, and a couple of other cities that 685 00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:51,160 Speaker 1: we're in, so. 686 00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:52,640 Speaker 3: I will put off. 687 00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:54,719 Speaker 2: I don't know this was syndicated. I thought this was Chicago. 688 00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:56,160 Speaker 2: I'm hyped about that. That's really good. 689 00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:58,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, we're out of we're based out of Chicago, but 690 00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:00,840 Speaker 1: we're on in eight cities and growing for everywhere. You 691 00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:02,960 Speaker 1: taught at Florida to ever, so like, I saw a 692 00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:05,280 Speaker 1: lot of skates that that line up with cities were on. 693 00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:08,400 Speaker 1: So I'm gonna post the whole tour and I'm excited 694 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:09,800 Speaker 1: to see you. But I have to tell you I'm 695 00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:12,280 Speaker 1: going to a PowerPoint party later where I have to 696 00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:14,800 Speaker 1: do a PowerPoint presentation on a hot take. 697 00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:15,200 Speaker 3: That I have. 698 00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:17,800 Speaker 2: This is this a conspiracy theory party. 699 00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:20,560 Speaker 1: It's it can be anything from like a hot take 700 00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:23,400 Speaker 1: or just a funny story. You have to bring a 701 00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:27,240 Speaker 1: bottle of wine, but it's it's gotta be like mine is. 702 00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:29,480 Speaker 3: I'm I'm workshopping it, but. 703 00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:32,640 Speaker 1: I mine is like adult men shouldn't be blonde, like 704 00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:36,320 Speaker 1: like naturally blonde because it looks ridiculous. 705 00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:39,880 Speaker 2: But ah, but you can imagine if we did that 706 00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:43,520 Speaker 2: ship to you. Adult woman shouldn't be brunette. You could 707 00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:45,080 Speaker 2: be like this sexist fuck. 708 00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:46,720 Speaker 3: You know what you did? 709 00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:48,280 Speaker 1: You guys did it to us for years, so it'll 710 00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:50,960 Speaker 1: be okay, it would you. 711 00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:54,280 Speaker 2: I was born blonde? Hey, I was born blonde. I 712 00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:58,640 Speaker 2: like conspiracy theory parties, power PowerPoint presentations on a conspiracy 713 00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:02,360 Speaker 2: theory right, like yeah, like it was the moonlanding reeler 714 00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:04,200 Speaker 2: or whatever, you know what I mean like that that 715 00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:06,080 Speaker 2: that is fun. That's fun to me. And you go 716 00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:08,960 Speaker 2: like this whole thing and you break it down and whatever. 717 00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:11,240 Speaker 3: Okay, maybe the next one anything. 718 00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:12,960 Speaker 2: Get the hot I get the hot take party. It's 719 00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:16,560 Speaker 2: it's it's conspiracy theory light you know, it's it's it's 720 00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:18,320 Speaker 2: it's hot take. Yeah. 721 00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:19,760 Speaker 3: By the way, I was born blonde too. 722 00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:22,080 Speaker 1: I just like I think, like sometimes it's like I 723 00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:24,400 Speaker 1: don't know, grow up, Like, why is your hair blonde? 724 00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:26,400 Speaker 2: So you want you want us to go you want 725 00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:29,959 Speaker 2: us to go to Walgreens and get some Loriel and 726 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:32,400 Speaker 2: bring it home and dump a brunette on there, just 727 00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:34,840 Speaker 2: so you can take us seriously, Died blond hair is. 728 00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:36,960 Speaker 3: Okay with me. Died blonde hair is okay if it 729 00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:37,520 Speaker 3: looks fake. 730 00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:39,840 Speaker 1: But like if you're just a natural blonde man, I'm like, 731 00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:40,760 Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't get it. 732 00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:42,480 Speaker 3: It looks like you're a child, like a blonde one. 733 00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:47,240 Speaker 2: If you're from Iceland. I'm Swedish, my relatives are blonde. 734 00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:48,200 Speaker 2: What are you talking about? 735 00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:51,000 Speaker 3: Listen, listen, maybe I'll maybe I'll change it. 736 00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:53,560 Speaker 2: You've got a couple hours, you got a couple hours, 737 00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:55,640 Speaker 2: you got a great. 738 00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:57,160 Speaker 3: To talk to you anything else you want to plug 739 00:32:57,280 --> 00:32:58,240 Speaker 3: or just man. 740 00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:00,400 Speaker 2: I'm just excited for everybody to come out and two 741 00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:02,960 Speaker 2: these two records from the back. We're working really really 742 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:05,400 Speaker 2: hard on it Soundtrack of your Life tour. Man, it 743 00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:09,640 Speaker 2: sounds like a bit of your life had the soundtrack. 744 00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:12,560 Speaker 2: Hopefully some other people had it too, and we're going 745 00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:14,680 Speaker 2: to celebrate it. Man, we're going back in time and 746 00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:16,800 Speaker 2: we're going to play both records front to back. That's it, 747 00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:18,600 Speaker 2: and we'll see you next year with new music. I 748 00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:19,680 Speaker 2: hope you guys enjoy the tour. 749 00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:21,840 Speaker 3: I can't wait. Bye.