WEBVTT - Our 2024 Quarterback Tier List 0:00:00.080 --> 0:00:04.400 Hello, and welcome to Awaken Jake. Tearless season is back 0:00:04.600 --> 0:00:08.039 on and we have a special one today. We're talking football, 0:00:08.080 --> 0:00:11.920 not my messy jersey that I'm wearing, but man, we 0:00:12.160 --> 0:00:16.840 are a week away who from football games that matter? 0:00:17.880 --> 0:00:20.200 So hey, maybe you're gonna call it lamestream, but it's 0:00:20.200 --> 0:00:23.080 one of the best exercises of the year. I have 0:00:23.239 --> 0:00:26.600 a group chat that argues over this, I'd say four 0:00:26.680 --> 0:00:30.320 times a year. I'm a big Ryan Orcillo guy. I 0:00:30.320 --> 0:00:34.559 know he just did his his QB Tearless. Who does 0:00:34.600 --> 0:00:36.519 he do it with? I'm gonna have to look that 0:00:36.520 --> 0:00:38.800 guy's name up because I feel awful because it's actually him. 0:00:38.840 --> 0:00:43.960 Mike Floro Florio Florio, excuse me. We are joined by 0:00:44.080 --> 0:00:49.559 Justin Pennock, talking giants, talking football warehouse athletes, and I 0:00:49.600 --> 0:00:53.760 know you're you're juiced up to hear some football opinions 0:00:53.760 --> 0:00:56.000 that aren't Bobby Skinner and Chris Rose because you guys 0:00:56.000 --> 0:00:57.600 have been in the lab recently. 0:00:57.680 --> 0:01:00.800 Yeah, man, football today has been fun over on football, 0:01:01.040 --> 0:01:03.920 where like we did a QB tier list and we 0:01:03.920 --> 0:01:06.120 were kind of basic with our tiers and just seeing 0:01:06.160 --> 0:01:09.000 how your brain here ten minutes before we started record 0:01:09.040 --> 0:01:10.479 I'm like, all right, Jake, give me, give me these 0:01:10.480 --> 0:01:12.160 six tiers on what your brain's like and how we're 0:01:12.160 --> 0:01:14.440 going to organize these people. And well, you said this 0:01:14.480 --> 0:01:15.759 is kind of chalk. It's not chalk. 0:01:15.840 --> 0:01:18.360 These categories are not chalk. Well, I think I've already 0:01:18.400 --> 0:01:23.000 thrown you off a little bit because I want to 0:01:23.040 --> 0:01:25.560 start off on a note that I think might lead 0:01:25.600 --> 0:01:29.000 to just a little bit of debate. Not that this 0:01:29.040 --> 0:01:34.039 is an episode of First Jake, but I for me, 0:01:35.240 --> 0:01:39.240 when I think of the NFL quarterback position, I think 0:01:39.280 --> 0:01:44.360 of Patrick Mahomes at the start. Yeah and panic. I 0:01:44.400 --> 0:01:46.280 made the first category, and I'll tell the people the 0:01:46.319 --> 0:01:48.160 tier list and we'll get it on the screen as well. 0:01:48.200 --> 0:01:51.320 You could play along at home. I have the first category, 0:01:51.400 --> 0:01:54.280 as does anyone deserve to be with Pat? And that's 0:01:54.320 --> 0:01:57.280 about our friend Patrick. The second one I labeled as 0:01:57.280 --> 0:02:00.840 could win MVP. Interesting to see where that cono leads. 0:02:01.200 --> 0:02:05.400 I put Joe Flacco. I don't think that's current Joe Flacco, 0:02:05.520 --> 0:02:08.600 but I wanted to label it as like a quarterback 0:02:08.639 --> 0:02:12.880 that you feel excited in a playoff game, Like hey, 0:02:13.520 --> 0:02:16.840 like you have that magic feeling of sports, Like I 0:02:16.840 --> 0:02:18.880 don't want to give too much away. I feel like 0:02:18.960 --> 0:02:21.000 Jared Goff could land there, Like there's a lot of 0:02:21.000 --> 0:02:24.880 Lions hope this season. He's put good seasons together that 0:02:25.760 --> 0:02:28.680 you know, if the Lions season goes as they're hoping, 0:02:29.200 --> 0:02:32.560 they're hitting the playoffs excited with Jared Goff. The next 0:02:32.600 --> 0:02:36.240 category I have labeled and Joe Flacco had that miracle run. 0:02:36.840 --> 0:02:40.560 People forget. No one's forgotten Joe. Everyone remembers and he's 0:02:40.600 --> 0:02:44.960 still playing football. People forget that was one won my 0:02:45.560 --> 0:02:48.600 fantasy league last year, not for me, but for another guy. 0:02:48.680 --> 0:02:53.920 Joe Flacco is the starting quarterback. That's insane. Anyways, The 0:02:53.960 --> 0:02:56.440 category below that, and it's currently a big divide, and 0:02:56.480 --> 0:02:58.400 if you've done tearless with us before, you know we 0:02:58.440 --> 0:03:00.920 may add a category if we need to, is that 0:03:01.000 --> 0:03:04.640 it's horrified in a playoff game. I think they're on 0:03:04.760 --> 0:03:08.840 the other side of the scale, whether you're talking maybe 0:03:08.840 --> 0:03:11.200 a Lions or a Browns roster that if you had 0:03:11.200 --> 0:03:14.680 this quarterback, you're more so living in fear of the 0:03:14.680 --> 0:03:17.280 first round exit than the like, wait, can we make 0:03:17.360 --> 0:03:22.760 a run? Below that, I have great backup QB again, 0:03:22.919 --> 0:03:24.600 interested to see how this sorts out right. 0:03:24.639 --> 0:03:26.680 Backup QB is a bit starting qbing. 0:03:27.960 --> 0:03:30.440 And at the bottom of this list. We currently have 0:03:30.480 --> 0:03:32.840 the category labeled bottom of this list. We didn't know 0:03:32.880 --> 0:03:34.760 how rude we want it to be. It's kind of 0:03:34.760 --> 0:03:39.000 not what we're about. Sometimes a name forms. Sometimes we 0:03:39.040 --> 0:03:41.040 see a group of guys and we're like, wait, these 0:03:41.040 --> 0:03:47.560 guys all former Wisconsin Badgers, Russ. I want to start 0:03:47.600 --> 0:03:51.960 at the top, and that starts with Patrick Mahomes, as 0:03:52.000 --> 0:03:56.040 I mentioned, and I'm interested to see because everyone knows 0:03:56.760 --> 0:04:00.760 the big I think everyone has a top fours right 0:04:00.840 --> 0:04:06.680 now that it's Mahomes, it's Josh Allen, it's Lamar. Who 0:04:06.720 --> 0:04:10.160 am I missing? Is it those three? And then everyone 0:04:10.160 --> 0:04:11.080 else is in discussion. 0:04:11.400 --> 0:04:12.240 Could those three? 0:04:12.440 --> 0:04:15.440 When you start talking Stroud and everyone else already hurts yeah, yeah, 0:04:15.520 --> 0:04:17.680 we'll get there, Okay. So I think there's a clear 0:04:17.720 --> 0:04:19.520 top three. I should say, you. 0:04:19.440 --> 0:04:22.000 Know Burrow, A lot of people love Burrow. That's probably 0:04:22.000 --> 0:04:23.800 your clear four right coming off the injury. 0:04:24.880 --> 0:04:28.120 I think with Burrow coming off injury, everyone wants to 0:04:28.160 --> 0:04:30.960 see it. It's supposedly a bit of a weird one too, right, 0:04:31.160 --> 0:04:34.039 Like it's a wrist injury that a lot of people haven't. 0:04:34.080 --> 0:04:37.200 I think he's fine, and he hasn't missed a single practice. 0:04:37.240 --> 0:04:38.719 This is the first time in his career that I 0:04:38.720 --> 0:04:42.039 believe that he hasn't missed a single practice during training camp, 0:04:42.279 --> 0:04:44.320 which we're already off to a much better start. 0:04:44.360 --> 0:04:47.000 Look at that two ways to skin a cat. People. 0:04:47.040 --> 0:04:48.960 You could look at Joe Burrow and say he's got 0:04:48.960 --> 0:04:51.760 a unique wrist injury. You could say this is the 0:04:51.800 --> 0:04:58.160 most training camp football he's played. Where it gets interesting 0:04:58.240 --> 0:05:01.719 to me, it's depending how wide of a scope you 0:05:01.760 --> 0:05:05.080 want to go, because could win m VP. I think 0:05:05.120 --> 0:05:07.640 all the guys we just mentioned everyone's heart would be 0:05:07.640 --> 0:05:12.920 open to that easily. Does anyone deserve to be with Pat? 0:05:13.160 --> 0:05:18.960 Is the feeling? For me? It's the feeling of there's 0:05:18.960 --> 0:05:23.200 two minutes left, you just punted away, your team is 0:05:23.279 --> 0:05:25.320 up four, and what do you think is going to 0:05:25.400 --> 0:05:30.600 happen when it's Mahomes You've prepared to lose? Like that's 0:05:30.720 --> 0:05:31.080 just it. 0:05:31.279 --> 0:05:34.400 There's one guy that I think undoubtedly deserves to be 0:05:34.440 --> 0:05:40.880 with them. Yeah, strashall, but I want to hear you. 0:05:41.040 --> 0:05:42.880 I want to hear your argument in that scenario where 0:05:42.880 --> 0:05:45.680 I understand the interceptions, I understand the recklessness, but in 0:05:45.720 --> 0:05:49.599 that scenario. We're talking about game on the line, right, 0:05:50.600 --> 0:05:53.440 I want Josh Allen and Patrick Mahomes under center. And 0:05:53.600 --> 0:05:59.760 I don't think the divide is as dramatic as people 0:05:59.839 --> 0:06:04.279 like to maybe make. It seems Mahomes is there, Mahomes 0:06:04.360 --> 0:06:07.680 is number one, But does anyone deserve to be with Pat? 0:06:07.800 --> 0:06:10.800 Is the category and Josh Allen deserves to be with Pat. 0:06:12.440 --> 0:06:19.080 I think you're right, man. I guess okay, here's what 0:06:19.120 --> 0:06:22.039 I'll need you to talk me off him next, because Mahomes, 0:06:22.240 --> 0:06:25.159 I'm going back to that legendary Bills Chiefs playoff game 0:06:25.200 --> 0:06:28.719 that literally changed overtime rules and one of the best 0:06:29.160 --> 0:06:31.760 offensive football games ever played. I think you could say, 0:06:34.040 --> 0:06:38.679 and where Josh Allen is very different is his running 0:06:38.800 --> 0:06:43.200 is still ferocious. That you know, third and seven, you're 0:06:43.240 --> 0:06:45.720 nervous about what Mahomes can do, and his running and 0:06:45.800 --> 0:06:49.279 elusiveness obviously is still a massive The design stuff too, 0:06:50.000 --> 0:06:53.880 like Josh Allen is a tight end and he's still 0:06:53.920 --> 0:06:57.120 in his prime. That this scenario I laid out the 0:06:57.160 --> 0:07:00.280 full fear my team is about to lose four point 0:07:00.320 --> 0:07:04.160 lead Josh Allen on that third and five if the 0:07:04.200 --> 0:07:07.320 first read isn't there, he almost can run for it instantly, 0:07:07.400 --> 0:07:09.560 We're going the way you have to play defense at 0:07:09.560 --> 0:07:13.040 that point in the game. Josh Allen can can get the. 0:07:13.160 --> 0:07:14.960 Cole A designed run and it's not a it's not 0:07:15.000 --> 0:07:16.160 a bad call, but. 0:07:16.160 --> 0:07:18.480 I would guess this would lead to the next guy 0:07:18.920 --> 0:07:23.080 of Lamar Jackson. Right, does Lamar Jackson not have the 0:07:23.120 --> 0:07:25.480 same fear factor as Josh Allen? 0:07:25.680 --> 0:07:27.559 And I think it comes down to the playoffs. Lamar 0:07:27.640 --> 0:07:28.680 needs to prove in the playoffs. 0:07:30.360 --> 0:07:33.720 How we're talking Rannick baseball, we don't get to talk 0:07:33.760 --> 0:07:38.040 about stuff like that, like Clayton Kershaw starts fight, right, 0:07:38.360 --> 0:07:40.280 How can you talk about the best picture of our 0:07:40.320 --> 0:07:43.120 generation that way? And it's like, well, that's this is 0:07:43.160 --> 0:07:48.160 how we get measured, this is what we're trying to do. Okay, 0:07:48.320 --> 0:07:52.560 I think I can actually process that pretty good. 0:07:53.160 --> 0:07:55.880 I would view like I view if we're talking about 0:07:55.920 --> 0:07:58.080 elite QBS and how how we did not we actually 0:07:58.120 --> 0:08:01.280 did a tear maker football tonight on jam football two 0:08:01.320 --> 0:08:04.440 months ago. Elite good, decent, middling, and backup. So there 0:08:04.680 --> 0:08:07.720 is certainly the like that's more chalk and the categories 0:08:07.760 --> 0:08:11.280 aren't as unique as this I put Mahomes, We're a team. 0:08:11.960 --> 0:08:15.120 I put Mahomes, Alan Burrow, and Jackson all in the 0:08:15.120 --> 0:08:17.720 elite tier. But if we're talking about does anyone deserve 0:08:17.760 --> 0:08:20.440 to be with Pat? And four minutes left you're or 0:08:20.480 --> 0:08:22.800 two minutes left, you're down by four, right, nervous time. 0:08:23.680 --> 0:08:26.880 Lamar Jackson in the postseason has had these moments that 0:08:27.600 --> 0:08:30.440 it's it's not great. I think the team let him 0:08:30.480 --> 0:08:32.440 down last year. I think Odell kind of let him 0:08:32.440 --> 0:08:34.800 down at certain points last year. Is a Flowers getting 0:08:34.800 --> 0:08:37.280 that fifteen yard penalty when he has a big play 0:08:37.480 --> 0:08:39.360 let him down last year? But still Lamar has some 0:08:39.360 --> 0:08:41.440 bad throws on the postseason that he's got to shake off. 0:08:41.679 --> 0:08:47.400 So not there with Mahomes and Allen. Okay, I I 0:08:47.400 --> 0:08:49.080 don't know if I want to put anybody deserve Does 0:08:49.080 --> 0:08:50.880 anyone deserve to be with Pat? 0:08:51.280 --> 0:08:56.240 Yeah, that's what I'm saying because I I guess here's 0:08:57.040 --> 0:08:59.560 and this is an impossible question. And that's why I 0:08:59.640 --> 0:09:03.400 like having and you hear, is Josh Allen closer to 0:09:03.440 --> 0:09:07.880 Patrick Mahomes or Lamar Jackson flash show Burrow? 0:09:08.280 --> 0:09:09.480 I think he's closer to Mahomes. 0:09:09.480 --> 0:09:12.200 I think you're right. Yeah, I do think you're right. 0:09:12.280 --> 0:09:13.680 Now, let me ask you this, true, I wanted to 0:09:13.679 --> 0:09:16.400 ask you this before we put anybody on a teer list. 0:09:16.760 --> 0:09:18.840 How much are you including or how much are we 0:09:18.880 --> 0:09:20.640 including in this teer list? And I think it's best 0:09:20.640 --> 0:09:25.440 practice to not like surrounding circumstances like the fact that 0:09:25.480 --> 0:09:30.600 Mahomes has had Hill Kelsey, Andy Reid Alan does not 0:09:30.720 --> 0:09:34.319 have that, So are it's something that you do. You 0:09:34.320 --> 0:09:36.480 you have to be cognizant of it when you're talking 0:09:36.480 --> 0:09:40.040 about a QB tier list of surrounding situation, of coaching talent, 0:09:40.080 --> 0:09:40.520 et cetera. 0:09:40.720 --> 0:09:44.280 It's the beauty of sports, right is that it it 0:09:44.559 --> 0:09:48.040 doesn't count, but it absolutely counts. 0:09:48.800 --> 0:09:50.480 But that's why I like how you boiled it down 0:09:50.480 --> 0:09:53.679 to game on the line. All right, that's our criteria. 0:09:53.760 --> 0:09:56.520 Well, and that's the thing, and I that's where the 0:09:56.600 --> 0:10:00.000 teams are going to have to factor into this because 0:10:02.280 --> 0:10:04.880 you know, if, like I said with my Jared Goff 0:10:04.960 --> 0:10:09.400 example before, if Jared Goff went to the Washington football team, 0:10:09.520 --> 0:10:11.720 the New York Giants, a couple other. 0:10:11.600 --> 0:10:13.320 Teams, those old lines aren't the same. 0:10:13.559 --> 0:10:17.959 I don't think we would have as much belief in 0:10:18.040 --> 0:10:21.160 Jared Goff. But they have those coaches, they have those 0:10:21.200 --> 0:10:26.960 teammates that that's currently where they're at. That it's impossible 0:10:26.960 --> 0:10:30.160 to take it out of the equation, unfortunately, but it 0:10:30.320 --> 0:10:35.160 is a part of the equation. So if Mahomes and 0:10:35.200 --> 0:10:38.600 Allen are top dogs, I'm open to it. The tier 0:10:38.640 --> 0:10:42.680 below obviously starts with Lamar Jackson and Joe Burrow. 0:10:42.920 --> 0:10:43.679 Yes, so are we? 0:10:43.800 --> 0:10:45.840 Are we locking? Does anyone deserve to be a pet? 0:10:46.160 --> 0:10:49.920 Nothing's locked until the final second of the episode. So 0:10:50.000 --> 0:10:53.520 if you get cold feet about something, you are more 0:10:53.559 --> 0:10:56.719 than welcome to make one more adjustment. I want to 0:10:56.760 --> 0:10:59.080 talk about Burrow just a little bit more and see 0:10:59.160 --> 0:11:01.000 where where are you with Joe Burrow? 0:11:03.240 --> 0:11:04.880 I think the Bengals were winning Super Bowl this year. 0:11:05.520 --> 0:11:10.679 That's your Ye're in, I'm in. The Bengals were interesting, 0:11:10.760 --> 0:11:14.120 one of the hotter teams in the NFL. I think 0:11:14.160 --> 0:11:18.280 they went four and one before Burrow suffered that injury 0:11:18.640 --> 0:11:22.960 against the Ravens. I think they suffered it and the 0:11:23.000 --> 0:11:25.240 only loss that they had was to the Houston Texans 0:11:25.280 --> 0:11:28.319 on a last second field goal. But you had them 0:11:28.360 --> 0:11:31.120 beating really good teams like the forty nine ers. Some 0:11:31.480 --> 0:11:33.440 I think the Browns they beat as well in there, 0:11:33.440 --> 0:11:36.199 so some really good teams with some really good defenses, 0:11:36.679 --> 0:11:41.160 and they were going and Zach Taylor Burrow even had 0:11:41.240 --> 0:11:43.920 Callahan two at the times the offense Coordinarty and now 0:11:43.920 --> 0:11:46.000 the head coach of the Titans. They saw what they 0:11:46.000 --> 0:11:50.199 were doing towards the start of the season, and they adjusted. 0:11:50.240 --> 0:11:53.480 They got more explosive, they started throwing the ball even more. 0:11:53.679 --> 0:11:56.080 They trusted Joe Burrow and as soon as he was 0:11:56.160 --> 0:11:58.200 clear from that calf injury, like the second that he 0:11:58.280 --> 0:12:01.320 was lifted, there was no injury designation week five to 0:12:01.360 --> 0:12:04.480 week ten, they were going and I thought they were 0:12:04.480 --> 0:12:07.760 getting hot at the right time. And who knows where 0:12:07.760 --> 0:12:10.000 the Bengals would have went last year if Burrow did 0:12:10.000 --> 0:12:12.840 not get hurt. So I'm choosing them this year. Like, 0:12:13.320 --> 0:12:15.439 I'm not shocked if Burrow does win MVP this year. 0:12:15.480 --> 0:12:16.360 So could win MVP. 0:12:16.640 --> 0:12:20.679 Yes, Yeah, it's a I'm gonna say, a sneaky big 0:12:20.760 --> 0:12:26.720 year for Joe Burr. Obviously, everyone knows where they're at 0:12:26.720 --> 0:12:28.920 with Joe Burrow. I think the more and more you 0:12:28.960 --> 0:12:32.880 dive into it, that LSU championship gets more and more impressive. 0:12:33.040 --> 0:12:35.800 What we've seen him do on the football field is 0:12:35.840 --> 0:12:42.800 insane that I think he can challenge Mahomes for the 0:12:42.800 --> 0:12:44.200 biggest fear factor. 0:12:44.040 --> 0:12:45.959 It has in the He's challenged Mahomes in the Pad, 0:12:46.040 --> 0:12:48.320 the big the big bad Chiefs. It's the Bengals have 0:12:48.360 --> 0:12:50.400 been the ones that have challenged them, right, and the 0:12:50.480 --> 0:12:53.800 Chiefs got better, and the Chiefs got better unfortunately for 0:12:53.800 --> 0:12:54.520 everybody else. 0:12:56.240 --> 0:13:01.040 Man Burrow. And it's tough with injuries and when you 0:13:01.080 --> 0:13:05.240 don't see a guy, but it's kind of it's again 0:13:05.280 --> 0:13:09.160 how the world works if Joe Burrow is back. I mean, 0:13:09.200 --> 0:13:12.600 I I think I think I like the pure nature 0:13:12.720 --> 0:13:15.240 of Joe Burrow at his best better than Josh Allen. 0:13:16.160 --> 0:13:21.120 But when you miss some time and Josh Allen you 0:13:21.520 --> 0:13:23.760 just know what you're gonna get, and he's gonna dog it. 0:13:23.840 --> 0:13:26.480 And I think there's times that he even leans on 0:13:26.520 --> 0:13:32.000 the run too too much, and Alan could can be reckless. 0:13:32.120 --> 0:13:36.760 That's where when Burrow, when Mahomes or even Burrow, I 0:13:36.840 --> 0:13:38.560 think at the end of that game, in that situation 0:13:38.600 --> 0:13:44.240 we talk about, you expect just precision. They're gonna get 0:13:44.280 --> 0:13:48.720 the ball to someone Kelsey, They're gonna get it to Chase. 0:13:48.960 --> 0:13:52.080 You don't know how, somehow you've schemed up everything to 0:13:52.120 --> 0:13:55.040 stop this and that's where it gets complicated with the 0:13:55.080 --> 0:13:57.360 coaches and Andy Reid and how good he is and 0:13:57.480 --> 0:14:00.520 Zach Taylor's earned a lot of respect in this league. 0:14:01.679 --> 0:14:08.040 I I don't know, you need to be reminded from 0:14:08.080 --> 0:14:10.679 Burrow and I think by week three we could all 0:14:10.679 --> 0:14:11.160 be reminded. 0:14:11.200 --> 0:14:14.000 And staying healthy, I mean that's why the factor. You know, 0:14:14.080 --> 0:14:16.520 if he had that year where you know, if he 0:14:16.520 --> 0:14:18.160 had that year where he's healthy last year, and even 0:14:18.160 --> 0:14:19.760 if they don't go on to win the Super Bowl, right, 0:14:20.360 --> 0:14:22.800 but we could easily have Joe Burrow up there with 0:14:23.000 --> 0:14:25.920 just deserves to be with Pat Mahomes. If he has 0:14:25.960 --> 0:14:28.120 that slow start to the season all right, and then 0:14:28.160 --> 0:14:30.240 we look at it be like, oh, the stupid calf injury, 0:14:30.640 --> 0:14:32.760 and then he just finishes it really strong like he 0:14:32.920 --> 0:14:36.160 was going to between weeks five to ten. I don't know, man, 0:14:36.280 --> 0:14:39.840 he needs to stay healthy and that offensive line when 0:14:39.840 --> 0:14:41.760 it gets to the postseason, because they like to spread 0:14:41.760 --> 0:14:44.800 it out. They like to only have those five man protections. 0:14:44.960 --> 0:14:47.440 Some of these other quarterbacks like six seven man protections, 0:14:47.440 --> 0:14:50.200 so it allows more time more downfield routes. They got 0:14:50.200 --> 0:14:52.080 to protect him up front when the pass rush is 0:14:52.080 --> 0:14:54.400 going to get amplified in the postseason, and that's what's 0:14:54.440 --> 0:14:57.200 going to define Joe Burrow basically how we've kind of 0:14:57.280 --> 0:14:59.920 viewed Joe Burrows. The run that they had, that these 0:15:00.040 --> 0:15:02.240 quarterbacks having the postseason, that's how we kind of define them. 0:15:02.280 --> 0:15:03.320 And where you are with Lamar. 0:15:06.160 --> 0:15:07.120 Last year was the year. 0:15:07.400 --> 0:15:09.440 Last year was the year. Yeah, you're doing that. 0:15:09.520 --> 0:15:12.640 Last year was the year because the Ravens had everything 0:15:12.680 --> 0:15:15.880 going for them defensively, they lost some key pieces on 0:15:15.920 --> 0:15:19.440 the offensive line. I mean, I'm I'm not an Odell lover. 0:15:19.840 --> 0:15:21.800 I guess you can call me an Odell hater if 0:15:21.800 --> 0:15:23.000 you had to put me, if you had to put 0:15:23.000 --> 0:15:26.240 me in a side, I don't want to. I don't 0:15:26.240 --> 0:15:28.240 want to say I hate any player, because I don't 0:15:28.240 --> 0:15:31.040 hate Ode Beckham junior. But for how I think a 0:15:31.080 --> 0:15:33.200 little overrated he is. I think he's properly rated now. 0:15:33.320 --> 0:15:37.040 But anyway, the Ravens lost him and they didn't necessarily 0:15:37.080 --> 0:15:40.840 replace him. So they have Zay Flowers and then Rashad Bateman, 0:15:41.040 --> 0:15:43.800 who former first round pick. Yeah whatever, they're getting Mark 0:15:43.880 --> 0:15:45.600 Andrews back, and yeah, you have some tight ends that 0:15:45.640 --> 0:15:48.160 can catch the ball, but you lost some key pieces 0:15:48.240 --> 0:15:51.640 on the offensive line. Merrick, Henry bro Mike McDonald is 0:15:51.640 --> 0:15:54.160 now the head coach of the Seattle Seahawks, and they 0:15:54.160 --> 0:15:58.000 lost some key defensive players there too. So the Chiefs 0:15:58.120 --> 0:16:01.280 down year was last year. Even zeer where they had 0:16:01.360 --> 0:16:05.480 everything going for them was last year. I'm a little 0:16:05.640 --> 0:16:10.040 worried a little worried about Lamar Jackson and the surrounding 0:16:10.080 --> 0:16:12.560 cast this year. Okay, but they have Derreck Henry and 0:16:12.560 --> 0:16:14.040 they're gonna run the ball and they're gonna be good. 0:16:14.440 --> 0:16:15.680 But are they going to be as good as they 0:16:15.720 --> 0:16:17.640 were last year? Because Jake Warner. What they did last year, 0:16:17.720 --> 0:16:19.760 they kicked the crap out of teams above five hundred. 0:16:20.040 --> 0:16:23.040 That's what they did, right, Like usually you have we 0:16:23.120 --> 0:16:25.840 do this in all sports, your records against good teams, 0:16:25.840 --> 0:16:27.680 your records against bad teams. We're gonna do it with 0:16:27.720 --> 0:16:29.520 Dak Prescott. We're gonna do it with like teams, like 0:16:29.800 --> 0:16:32.840 the quarterback like Tua. It's why they're gonna be down 0:16:33.120 --> 0:16:35.880 in this tier list. They kicked the crap out of 0:16:35.880 --> 0:16:39.120 good teams and that's what defined the Ravens last year. 0:16:39.840 --> 0:16:41.680 They had to finish it and they didn't. But I 0:16:41.680 --> 0:16:43.320 love Lamar. I love Lamar, though man. 0:16:43.280 --> 0:16:45.680 I know you do. I love I was interested to 0:16:45.680 --> 0:16:47.640 see where your angle was gonna land, and I get it. 0:16:47.840 --> 0:16:51.800 You're there's something to a football season coming together that 0:16:51.960 --> 0:16:56.080 is tough to replicate if you're not Patrick Mahomes right here. 0:16:56.760 --> 0:16:58.880 And they like the Bills lean on Josh Allen so 0:16:58.960 --> 0:17:00.880 much and Josh Allen can do it. Yeah, I think 0:17:01.000 --> 0:17:04.000 Lamar Jackson can do it now too. But now they're 0:17:04.040 --> 0:17:06.520 in a bit of a different offense where Greg Roman's 0:17:06.560 --> 0:17:09.040 gone Greg Roman back with hardball out in LA. They're 0:17:09.040 --> 0:17:11.600 gonna run the damn ball. But Lamar Jackson were running 0:17:11.640 --> 0:17:14.240 a little bit more of a conventional drop back offense. 0:17:14.280 --> 0:17:17.160 We're running more with three wide receiver sets and less 0:17:17.680 --> 0:17:20.160 big full backs and two tight ends three tight ends, 0:17:20.520 --> 0:17:23.320 So this is more of your conventional drop back offense. 0:17:23.680 --> 0:17:27.280 Can Lamar handle that with even offensive line play going out? 0:17:27.280 --> 0:17:29.159 Because this will be the first time I think in 0:17:29.200 --> 0:17:31.040 a long time that the Ravens won't have a top 0:17:31.080 --> 0:17:31.680 ozero line. 0:17:32.359 --> 0:17:35.600 Let's get into the grit of it with the DraftKings 0:17:35.640 --> 0:17:38.560 sports book. 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These four are on 0:19:16.880 --> 0:19:19.040 a different platform. 0:19:19.080 --> 0:19:22.120 They are. They just are, and that's the whole point 0:19:22.119 --> 0:19:24.320 of Tearless right they are. 0:19:24.359 --> 0:19:29.120 But I mean, if Jordan Love could win MVP this year, 0:19:29.760 --> 0:19:31.800 Jalen Hurts could win MVP like that. 0:19:32.119 --> 0:19:34.520 Jordan Love is honestly the name I saw that. I 0:19:34.560 --> 0:19:36.840 was like, wait, he could win MVP this year, But 0:19:36.920 --> 0:19:39.119 he should not be with Lamar and Burrow. 0:19:39.160 --> 0:19:41.280 He's one of the top could we just we just 0:19:41.320 --> 0:19:42.840 had a family few videos where he's one of the 0:19:42.880 --> 0:19:43.359 top five. 0:19:43.240 --> 0:19:48.240 Odds add jam football. Okay, so let's rename this. Let's 0:19:48.280 --> 0:19:56.439 do the Jackson and Burrow tier as could be with 0:19:56.600 --> 0:20:02.680 Pat Yeah, I like that could be with Pat which 0:20:02.720 --> 0:20:06.520 would then and then we're adding a roll below ad 0:20:06.640 --> 0:20:12.160 Robe below, and that will be can win MVP. And 0:20:12.200 --> 0:20:17.320 I still like this because as much as I've mentioned 0:20:17.400 --> 0:20:20.520 Jared Goff, I don't think Jared Goff can win the 0:20:20.600 --> 0:20:23.960 MVP this season, right. I mean the Lions would have 0:20:24.080 --> 0:20:28.560 to go fifteen and two. His numbers would have to 0:20:28.600 --> 0:20:31.720 stand with everyone they're going to run the ball. They're 0:20:31.720 --> 0:20:33.639 going to run the ball. That defense would have to 0:20:33.640 --> 0:20:37.880 be electric. I no offense to Jared Goff. I don't 0:20:37.880 --> 0:20:40.439 think he's in that category, but I think CJ. Stroud is. 0:20:40.760 --> 0:20:42.680 So let's list a couple names and then we'll talk 0:20:42.680 --> 0:20:45.680 to them, because I think Stroud everyone is pretty much 0:20:45.720 --> 0:20:48.160 in on Yep. Everyone just wants to see what year 0:20:48.160 --> 0:20:52.879 two looks like Stroud. We have already mentioned Jordan Love Yep. 0:20:53.200 --> 0:20:55.720 I think he deserves to be there. And like you mentioned, 0:20:55.760 --> 0:21:05.560 with the DraftKings lines around with that, who else Jalen Hurts. 0:21:05.640 --> 0:21:09.679 Jalen Hurts. I there's a couple of names that brought 0:21:09.720 --> 0:21:12.119 a weird, little creepy smile to my face that people 0:21:12.119 --> 0:21:14.159 on the YouTube just saw and we're probably like, what 0:21:14.320 --> 0:21:17.680 was that Jalen Hurts absolutely deserves to be on that line. 0:21:17.760 --> 0:21:18.920 Pivotal year for him. 0:21:19.000 --> 0:21:23.119 Mm hmm if he takes another step down the Jalen 0:21:23.200 --> 0:21:27.280 Hurts crowd. I feel weird saying this around like Chris 0:21:27.359 --> 0:21:29.920