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Speaker 1: thank you for joining us. Man. I know you are. Um,
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Speaker 1: you deserve it. Thank you, man, you deserve it. Appreciate it.
Speaker 1: You work hard, you got the gift, and you're only
Speaker 1: getting better, which is very scary, very scary. No boy
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Speaker 1: some things on the table. I didn't even see yet,
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Speaker 1: you long, but we want to get to some information.
Speaker 1: Let's do a fast track. Let's do let's start at
Speaker 1: Let's start at that first phone call after after after
Speaker 1: the magical audition, and someone says you got the part
Speaker 1: which part which one. The first one was the Wire,
Speaker 1: the first one major role for Whire wasn't the first one.
Speaker 1: Hardball was probably the first ball. Yeah yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: baby Baby still trying to prove he wasn't. I I
Speaker 1: would say, you know, the Wire, the Wire, No, sorry,
Speaker 1: Hardball was probably the first one that really had me travel,
Speaker 1: you know, part of an ensemble cast, you know, per
Speaker 1: diem you know what I'm saying. You know, it was real.
Speaker 1: It was real, you know, like like you know, just
Speaker 1: the whole production of like making a feature film. That
Speaker 1: was like my first kind of introduction to like the
Speaker 1: game on that level, working with you know, Keanu Reeves
Speaker 1: and Diane Lane, you know, just um, it was. It
Speaker 1: was one of those projects at the time. He was
Speaker 1: shooting The Matrix, so we didn't even know what that
Speaker 1: was going to be, you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 1: it was I think he was in the process of
Speaker 1: shooting it. We met Lawrence Fishburn. He took us out
Speaker 1: to dinner one time, all the kids and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: We met Lawrence Fishburn and stuff like that. So you
Speaker 1: call him Larry Larry, I didn't. I can call him
Speaker 1: Glad No. But but but I think that was the
Speaker 1: first I was the first kind of like, you know, okay,
Speaker 1: I can I think I could do this? Is this
Speaker 1: is cool. I'm more curious about the industry, you know,
Speaker 1: understanding a little bit of the fundamentals of what acting is.
Speaker 1: Before that was just kind of like just showing up,
Speaker 1: reading the lines and you know, and trying not to
Speaker 1: you know, fuck up. But that one was the first
Speaker 1: time I think I'm kind of teetered into the realm
Speaker 1: of like a character and like how to like you know,
Speaker 1: so to speak. So, yeah, so are you in school
Speaker 1: at this time? I'm in school, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: getting like tutor, you know what I'm saying. So I'm
Speaker 1: just skipping a lot of days of school. But at
Speaker 1: the same time, you know, there's a there's an on
Speaker 1: set teacher that you got put in a certain amount
Speaker 1: of hours in that you know, us and the rest
Speaker 1: of the kids will you know, do a couple hours
Speaker 1: of school and then and then get back to work.
Speaker 1: So when does school change? When is it you go
Speaker 1: back after to like regular to regular school, went back
Speaker 1: to Harriball regular school. Uh, And at that point, you know,
Speaker 1: you're still in the acting tip. You know, what I mean,
Speaker 1: you're still hustling, You're still trying to with that. I'm like,
Speaker 1: you not a star at school. I mean I'm Hollywood,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Yeah, I think everybody that's
Speaker 1: trying to do something in the entertainment industry in like
Speaker 1: middle school, high school becomes Hollywood no matter what, like
Speaker 1: that's your nickname. They're not really that creative outside of that,
Speaker 1: it's like Hollywood. It's like what it is? So like
Speaker 1: that was the like a cheer, like yay, Like nobody
Speaker 1: understood it. I mean, how could you you know, you're
Speaker 1: doing something that's so against the norm. And where are
Speaker 1: you New y So, nort New Jersey doing that? Uh
Speaker 1: you know yeah yeah, So I'm sure that's tough. You're
Speaker 1: from Brick City and you're going to do movies and
Speaker 1: because it's just it's just it's not normal. It's not
Speaker 1: how do they process it? I mean, ain't for nobody
Speaker 1: really process you know what I'm saying. But for me,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, it was it was it
Speaker 1: was you know, leaving school early, going auditions, mission days
Speaker 1: of school. You know, you might see a you know,
Speaker 1: a model's ad in the Sunday paper or toys or
Speaker 1: rest add or you know, a little Freedo with those
Speaker 1: the de rito's, uh you know value pack with the
Speaker 1: little like you know points on the back of it.
Speaker 1: You were collecting like buy something off the you know,
Speaker 1: out of the book. Like, yeah, I was a little
Speaker 1: kid in that, you know, shit like that I was doing.
Speaker 1: And then you know, then the wire kicked in and
Speaker 1: all my children, Yeah, and then it was you know,
Speaker 1: was on the story. It was the storytories. Man. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you didn't know that. I did know that. I know
Speaker 1: something I don't know. He's probably watching the stories. No,
Speaker 1: my mama watched Mama grandmama had the stories a lock,
Speaker 1: That's what it was. So like all my children was
Speaker 1: definitely where I kind of like learned like the work
Speaker 1: ethic of acting like the actual Yeah, because they locked
Speaker 1: then yeah, I mean you do like one hundred and
Speaker 1: you know, episode and a half a day, one hundred
Speaker 1: hundred plus pages a day, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Plus yeah, they're cranking them daily. Tyler Perry before Tyler Perry,
Speaker 1: what I mean, soaps is some machine. I mean there
Speaker 1: is no like you know, you rarely get multiple takes,
Speaker 1: so It's like if you didn't if you ain't study,
Speaker 1: if you ain't know your shit, the next day it
Speaker 1: will be on air and people will be watching you
Speaker 1: fuck up. So like you only need one and two
Speaker 1: those so you like, no, no, no, should no, no what.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be prepared. I'm gonna know my ship better
Speaker 1: than anybody. So like that was kind of like, yeah,
Speaker 1: and when and when that did you move to LA
Speaker 1: to do the Stories or were you still I was
Speaker 1: in New York, so like, so after I finished the
Speaker 1: soap operas, that's when I moved. Once I wasn't going
Speaker 1: to college, I was like, all right, I'm not going
Speaker 1: to school. I'm gonna move to LA. I'm gonna keep
Speaker 1: pursuing this thing. And so so right after I finished
Speaker 1: my my run on the Stories, I up and moved
Speaker 1: to uh to La. That's what y'all scoundrels. Yeah that time, man, Yeah,
Speaker 1: part boy, And what was that transition like for you
Speaker 1: coming from New York coming to LA And maybe the
Speaker 1: chase is different, maybe the you know, the process is different.
Speaker 1: Just now being in Hollywood versus being in that space
Speaker 1: in the middle. I feel like the grind was like
Speaker 1: I had a work ethic and developed a work ethic
Speaker 1: from like being on the East Coast. It was just
Speaker 1: a certain level of like grit and like just wanting
Speaker 1: to go get it that really kept me locked in
Speaker 1: out here in LA and then seeing the pace of
Speaker 1: La is a little bit different than it is, not
Speaker 1: a little bit a lot different than it is on
Speaker 1: the East Coast. So just yeah, just the you know,
Speaker 1: just being hungry when we want to like, you know,
Speaker 1: lock in sacrifice. You know, the one thing I did
Speaker 1: was hooping audition. That was it. We rarely went out,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Like, well, besides when me
Speaker 1: and Sterling was promoting you hooped? What mean? League? Come on,
Speaker 1: I'm just asking listen, y'all know if y'all you know
Speaker 1: you who? If who you know too? Because I mean
Speaker 1: I know y'all know you and I have we got championship.
Speaker 1: Oh my lord. You know what I'm saying. Y'all were
Speaker 1: playing a political game a lot longer than me. So
Speaker 1: you had already knew that you had the politics with Shane,
Speaker 1: you had to do this, and that you got the
Speaker 1: little Stack team and play with your friends. I would
Speaker 1: just have stucky to get on the squad. This is
Speaker 1: the worst time I heard that. Yeah, team, I mean
Speaker 1: you had team chemistry, y'all play with who y'all wanted
Speaker 1: to play with? I got, I got my homie and
Speaker 1: then everybody else. Yeah, I had got, I got place
Speaker 1: for a team, You had your home, you had who
Speaker 1: was he? Did you not long it took to get league?
Speaker 1: When you finally got it, he shot for all the seasons.
Speaker 1: So yeah, scored thirty five? You shot eighty times. You
Speaker 1: know y'all lost, right, I don't let you get that
Speaker 1: A little boy like that, man, Yeah, maybe maybe fifty times.
Speaker 1: Because I got I got a championship with my first team.
Speaker 1: So you write about the politics though, because my first
Speaker 1: team we won and who I finally got me Jamie
Speaker 1: fob Yes, Corey Hardrick, King Spurs, Okay, we were the King.
Speaker 1: I was on the King's Corey Hardrick. Uh Roderick fucking
Speaker 1: Roderick right man? Yea, yeah, yeah, come on. Roger Kenneth
Speaker 1: Career was on my team. Uh time, Marcus Polk, Charlie
Speaker 1: Burrell and Brione we had and then when I finally
Speaker 1: got JN they put him on an island and he
Speaker 1: was taking forty shots. He was averaging thirty two. Yeah
Speaker 1: for y'all um, now, but that was that was the
Speaker 1: beginning of really all of our relationships due the Entertainment League,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, where we really built our
Speaker 1: bond with each other and everybody started to just get
Speaker 1: get to know each other because they were there were
Speaker 1: people in the league that it was just like, uh, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: du talented, but I don't really fun with him. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, And that's just life and that,
Speaker 1: you know, I mean. In an interesting thing, I felt
Speaker 1: like the league kind of brought that concept of how
Speaker 1: if you do make it to one of the professional leagues,
Speaker 1: you're dealing with multiple people and multiple personalities because what
Speaker 1: we do is very singular, like even with you go
Speaker 1: to your trailer, like we found we found out that. Okay,
Speaker 1: now we're in a locker room with each other. Now
Speaker 1: we're going to eleague parties. Now it's like damn, they're
Speaker 1: sanctioned things and they taking all star teams to different
Speaker 1: cities and guys are participating in that, and you start realizing, like, yo,
Speaker 1: who's a real person. Yeah, Like you know, I remember
Speaker 1: when we first really got cool and and it was
Speaker 1: something it might have been an egg event and he
Speaker 1: was like, man, just gonna pick me up. And I'm like,
Speaker 1: all right, shit, little far As here at the time,
Speaker 1: way out, all right, we're picking about and but just
Speaker 1: building those relationships and finding people within this industry. Man
Speaker 1: shout out to Shane, shout out, Shane. Put something together
Speaker 1: that really connected a lot of us that we've kept
Speaker 1: going and then even you know, me creating with Tank
Speaker 1: the R and B money run for years that now
Speaker 1: it's like, you know, I had to like calm it
Speaker 1: down because start going viral and like take put your
Speaker 1: phone up, tut of these phone calls that you know
Speaker 1: you were a part of. Chris Brown and pulled up
Speaker 1: and you know, the brim Brothers and Jamie Fox and
Speaker 1: but somewhere safe that you know, we're not gonna get
Speaker 1: some food that just want to hack us exactly because that,
Speaker 1: you know, because we do other stuff, because we have
Speaker 1: something to do it. It is what I'm always trying
Speaker 1: to tell Jay Valentine. I do other things. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: he knows I have shows on the weekend, right, but
Speaker 1: on the fastest break, he wants to hack my wrist,
Speaker 1: He wants to hack my fingers. This is the money
Speaker 1: making part of the ball. This is hands are not
Speaker 1: part of the ball. Where is your client manage me?
Speaker 1: You know what times I quit? I can't even imagine.
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter. You wasn't getting a shout out. It's okay,
Speaker 1: all right, out of this basketball place. Nobody plays better
Speaker 1: than me. Oh my lord. Did you ever feel any
Speaker 1: downtime or or any lag or pc yourself in a
Speaker 1: space where you were at a crossroad and trying to
Speaker 1: really figure things out to get to that next level?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean I would say the summer maybe
Speaker 1: before I booked Red Tails, I would say was probably
Speaker 1: one of the crossroads for me. I was like, all right,
Speaker 1: this is the last rent check I got. I don't
Speaker 1: overdrafted everything I could overdraft and borrow money from every
Speaker 1: out I could think of. This doesn't work out this month,
Speaker 1: I'm heading back to Jersey, and you know, we were
Speaker 1: gonna figure it out. We're gonna you know, I don't
Speaker 1: know what I'm gonna do, but we're gonna we're gonna
Speaker 1: figure it out. Um. And then audition for it, booked it.
Speaker 1: That found out that thing's giving that that I had
Speaker 1: got the role, and that was like the first time
Speaker 1: that I had enough money that I could actually stack,
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, cool, I could pay off everything
Speaker 1: I need to pay off this, put a little something up.
Speaker 1: I can stay out here for another six months, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, et cetera, et cetera. And then
Speaker 1: literally the jobs just kept I kept booking from there.
Speaker 1: It was just kind of like that kind of opened
Speaker 1: up the floodgates for me, and then it just kind
Speaker 1: of continued from that moment. So I would say, like
Speaker 1: when I moved out here, you know, I was still
Speaker 1: booking like little episodics, you know what I'm saying, guest
Speaker 1: starring roles on you know, Cside or Lauren Order or
Speaker 1: whatever it was. I was cool, but I was getting
Speaker 1: to know town. I was getting no casting directors. I
Speaker 1: was getting to know, like, you know, the players that
Speaker 1: are in there, that are in the you know, the
Speaker 1: entertainment world. And also you know, the executives and the
Speaker 1: casting directors loved the shows that I was doing, so
Speaker 1: like it was the work that I was doing that
Speaker 1: they would see that either if they didn't like it,
Speaker 1: their wife loved it. You know what I'm saying, Oh
Speaker 1: my god, my husband loves you. Oh my god, my
Speaker 1: wife loves you, like, let's come in. So like it
Speaker 1: was like this invested interest of like, you know, certain
Speaker 1: people in town to kind of keep me booked them busy,
Speaker 1: I guess a little bit. So that that was that
Speaker 1: was that was a good run. But you know, I
Speaker 1: would say that when I first moved out, it was
Speaker 1: like still booking jobs but still dead broke. So like yeah,
Speaker 1: you like, oh yo, that's wasn't name from the wire,
Speaker 1: but I'm like, yeah, but I'm me and Sterling's applying
Speaker 1: at Jack in a box or like you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, and like no, y'all overqualified. Like it was
Speaker 1: a moment where it was like, yeah, we were going
Speaker 1: to fast food spots um trying to you know, apply
Speaker 1: for jobs, and it was like one of those moments
Speaker 1: sitting in the car before we went there, it was like, Yo,
Speaker 1: we're about to do this shit. Are we about to
Speaker 1: apply for goddamn fast food right now? And these nigs
Speaker 1: gonna know who I am, So it's not like, oh,
Speaker 1: it's like a random person Like no, that's the tough spot.
Speaker 1: I was willing to take the l you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, and like and deal with the you look familiar,
Speaker 1: are you the you know what I'm saying, just the
Speaker 1: kind of definitely was gonna get that with a number eight.
Speaker 1: He didn't even know that he could have just called
Speaker 1: me out of the game a quarterdouns. He didn't realize that,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, I am on the back
Speaker 1: you know a hey man Wallace, Wallace, I know, I
Speaker 1: know you man. Nah nah the time take your food
Speaker 1: to keep it quishing. Um the fast food. I listen.
Speaker 1: I remember being in ranch of Couca Manga after the
Speaker 1: money when the money was low and I was I
Speaker 1: had a I had a rented Lincoln town car that
Speaker 1: I was hiding from the rental company. Okay, um the story, okay,
Speaker 1: it was taking. It took off because I had you know,
Speaker 1: they had a two bedroom. There was only like so
Speaker 1: I took off the ranch. All got in there. You
Speaker 1: picked me up around that area. So we were deep
Speaker 1: and I'm looking at this best Buy like I could
Speaker 1: pack boxes here, I could I could stack some box right,
Speaker 1: because if you go do the like the open night
Speaker 1: and made me trying to figure it out though, but
Speaker 1: hanging out with box right and it looking like yeah,
Speaker 1: everything was together when him at the party and I'm
Speaker 1: right next to him and the almost was rubbing. It's like, okay,
Speaker 1: they're doing it. And then I drive that the town
Speaker 1: car back to back to ranch show. Yeah, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, that rubber really meets the road and
Speaker 1: trying to figure out what that next movie. That's the
Speaker 1: entertainment business in a nut show. Yeah, because it's it's
Speaker 1: about staying the course. It's about staying out here or
Speaker 1: wherever that is. That that's that you're close to the
Speaker 1: work that will one day you'll wake up and you'll
Speaker 1: get that phone call that it changes for you, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. Like I remember having a conversation
Speaker 1: with you. He's like, I gotta go to the bay.
Speaker 1: I was like to the bay and he was like,
Speaker 1: it's a movie out there. It's like it's an indie movie.
Speaker 1: And the crazy thing is, you know our relationship and
Speaker 1: my relationship with with our fellow brother Tristan Wild. He
Speaker 1: also was supposed to be part of that movie and
Speaker 1: got sick when he was doing UM nine two one
Speaker 1: zero And I remember you called me and you were like, bro,
Speaker 1: this this movie is is special. And at first you
Speaker 1: didn't tell me what it's about you, just like you,
Speaker 1: you know. And then I never forget this. You said
Speaker 1: you should come up here. I was like why, and
Speaker 1: he was like, no, nig because you're from the Bay.
Speaker 1: I'm telling you you could just play one of the parts.
Speaker 1: And I was like, ning, I'm not an actor. I
Speaker 1: knew you setting me up there, but I could say
Speaker 1: brow three times in the movie and I'm like, nah,
Speaker 1: I'm cool. I mean you told He was like, he
Speaker 1: finally told me what the movie is about with Oscar Grant,
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh shit, I knew about the
Speaker 1: whole thing. I was like, this is about it's about
Speaker 1: to be different. This is going to be different. And
Speaker 1: the crazy thing is my cousin at the time was
Speaker 1: going to college or before. But before that, with Ryan,
Speaker 1: your cousin was the number one linebacker in the nation
Speaker 1: of the time. He go to sc him and Ryan
Speaker 1: both from Oakland. They linked and him he already telling
Speaker 1: me about him. And then you like, hey man, this
Speaker 1: young director out the Bay. He got this great idea
Speaker 1: and and what you did with that movie it represented
Speaker 1: us so well with you not being from the Bay,
Speaker 1: like just not aside from us all being black men,
Speaker 1: but just the Bay Area. We have a very like
Speaker 1: it's a particular island that we live on out there
Speaker 1: right there. It's just so different from the rest of
Speaker 1: the West Coast. But the rest of the world. We
Speaker 1: got our own language, we got our own the way
Speaker 1: we dressed. It's just we live in our own world. Tanker,
Speaker 1: tell you go up there, he'd be like, I enjoyed myself.
Speaker 1: I love it, but it is different. So to capture
Speaker 1: that and the way you captured it, bro, I don't
Speaker 1: even know if I've ever even told you over all
Speaker 1: these years, like you really made me proud of just
Speaker 1: a friend because I didn't see my friend anymore. Ye,
Speaker 1: And that's a huge part, you know that with acting.
Speaker 1: I did not see Mike, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Like I saw you playing Oscar and I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: he he did this such a great service. I appreciate that.
Speaker 1: So thank you from us, No, no, thanks all mine.
Speaker 1: And just be able to like embody that that character
Speaker 1: and that you know that moment in time. You know me,
Speaker 1: I was real pissed off around that time just in general,
Speaker 1: just like it was a lot you know, shooting's going on.
Speaker 1: Trade by Martin just got shot. There was a lot,
Speaker 1: a lot, a lot of shit going on in the world,
Speaker 1: and like that was an outlet for me to kind
Speaker 1: of express myself the way I could, which is through
Speaker 1: the work. You know what I'm saying, And then you know,
Speaker 1: and say something. You know what I'm saying. So so
Speaker 1: you know, meet and Ryan and you know, going through
Speaker 1: all the steps, so moving up there and living and
Speaker 1: staying in you know, you know, just you know, in
Speaker 1: close proximity to to you know, Oscar's friends and family,
Speaker 1: you know, people that you know. I had had to
Speaker 1: get to know him through the people that knew him
Speaker 1: the best, you know. And that was my first time
Speaker 1: really doing like a like a real deep dive like that,
Speaker 1: you know, as far as doing like a real the
Speaker 1: real homework, you know what I'm saying, and like and
Speaker 1: and so so for me, it was doing a bunch
Speaker 1: of things. I got a chance to say something, I
Speaker 1: got a chance to prove that could carry a film,
Speaker 1: you know. But then also I represent you know, so
Speaker 1: many other you know, Trayvion Martins and Oscar Grants throughout
Speaker 1: the world. You know what I'm saying that that don't
Speaker 1: get their stories told. You know what I'm saying that
Speaker 1: doesn't get an opportunity to you know, to get justice,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So so yeah, that movie
Speaker 1: meant a lot, checked a lot of boxing for him.
Speaker 1: I want to get to the where are you going?
Speaker 1: You know? I want to get to the I want
Speaker 1: to get to the Blockbuster. It's happening right now. But
Speaker 1: I just want to ask you one question before we
Speaker 1: get to the you know, to the series of of amazing,
Speaker 1: amazing body of work that you've got. Appreciate that, um,
Speaker 1: because we see, like we've we've been in Hollywood for
Speaker 1: quite some time, and we kind of understand the overtones
Speaker 1: and then the undertones of how this thing kind of
Speaker 1: moves and shakes and and the question I wanted to
Speaker 1: ask you is like, why do you think it's you?
Speaker 1: Out of all the people you've come up with, and
Speaker 1: out of all the people you know, you've worked with,
Speaker 1: that you know put in the work and who are
Speaker 1: talented and you are amazing, is only talented amazing work ethic?
Speaker 1: What is the special quality about Michael B. Jordan that
Speaker 1: sets him apart from everybody else? I mean that's tough
Speaker 1: only because women of faith and understanding, you know that
Speaker 1: it's above us, you know what I'm saying, Like our
Speaker 1: blessings were blessed, you know what I'm saying, and highly favored,
Speaker 1: you know, so we know spirituality, God has a lot
Speaker 1: to do with us and success and the blessings that
Speaker 1: we have, and just and just the avoidance of bullshit,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying that could knock us off
Speaker 1: our path, because that's equally as important. You know, I'm
Speaker 1: talking about family prayer circles, people that we're shielding. So
Speaker 1: there's that that that goes there. Um. I mean I
Speaker 1: was a little bit what this movie was about for me,
Speaker 1: you know, trying to figure out like you know, having
Speaker 1: that conversation, you know, kind of exercising my way through
Speaker 1: you know, why me? You know, and I think part
Speaker 1: of it is chosen you know, for certain things. And
Speaker 1: then also my ability that I think maybe the I
Speaker 1: don't know, process information, think, put things together, you know,
Speaker 1: build shit, you know, I um my gut, my intuition.
Speaker 1: You know, I listened to that shit all the time,
Speaker 1: you know. Um being able to read people. You know,
Speaker 1: here the hear the note behind the note? You know
Speaker 1: what is it? What is what is the real intent
Speaker 1: behind things? You know? Being able to kind of like
Speaker 1: dissect that all the time, um, which is a lot.
Speaker 1: But at the same time, it's my norm, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, So you know, And then I said
Speaker 1: the work ethic. You know, it's a combination. It's it's
Speaker 1: a bunch of different things. I don't think it's like
Speaker 1: the one thing that that makes it makes it different.
Speaker 1: I think it's just a combination of just um particular
Speaker 1: point of views and approaches and disciplines that that equal.
Speaker 1: You know, the ability to like, you know, do what
Speaker 1: I do. You know, Um, that's the I want to
Speaker 1: accept all of that, right, because all of that is
Speaker 1: very much true. Oh, I feel like you're you're part
Speaker 1: of a bigger universal message. It's empathy, bro. I think
Speaker 1: it's empathy being able to, like I feel, I'm an EmPATH,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But once you feel and
Speaker 1: you understand what it is, you can give people what
Speaker 1: they need. Well, that too, that you are proof that
Speaker 1: good people went hmm, that being a good aggression, being
Speaker 1: an amazing human being, because there's always this quote of
Speaker 1: good guys always finished last. That's not true. I agree,
Speaker 1: And you are giving good people an example, an example
Speaker 1: you can do it the right way. You cannot be
Speaker 1: part of that, part of that and these other things.
Speaker 1: You can do it the right way. You can be
Speaker 1: raised right, you can talk right, you can act right,
Speaker 1: you can walk around, you can do your best. I
Speaker 1: met your mom and daddy. Yeah, yeah, you're from you
Speaker 1: from good stock, bro, Like you come from good things.
Speaker 1: And what he's saying is absolutely right. You're an example
Speaker 1: for that, bro, And we're here to tell you that.
Speaker 1: Look all the rest of this ship, you have been
Speaker 1: consistently you from the day I met you, And I
Speaker 1: had no idea you was going and looking at Jack
Speaker 1: in the box applications because that didn't matter to me.
Speaker 1: I like, that's the homie. Like I never get caught
Speaker 1: up in none of that. My friends and my friends,
Speaker 1: but now we all know what this life has done
Speaker 1: for you in a position that put you in and
Speaker 1: you are the same exact person. Appreciate that you're the
Speaker 1: same exact person. If like, listen at the at the premiere,
Speaker 1: if we catch your eyes, it's expected. Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't care who in this mild. We gonna hug out,
Speaker 1: We gonna tell each other we love each other. Man.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you, and congratulations, and this is what
Speaker 1: it's supposed to be when it's a real brotherhood. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this ain't about nothing else, and we got to stop
Speaker 1: telling people that it's about Oh, he ain't checked in
Speaker 1: with me, he ain't called me. And I man, we
Speaker 1: got lives and we're busy moving. But when we when
Speaker 1: we catch you, we catch these eyes and I see
Speaker 1: my brother, tell where we left, bro, So you know
Speaker 1: close to you. For that, I appreciate in a real way.
Speaker 1: I was trying to figure out if you was trying
Speaker 1: to ask why you wasn't kill Munger, and he was,
Speaker 1: that's that's I thought you was going there, but you
Speaker 1: didn't go there. You didn't go there. No exact question. No,
Speaker 1: we're curious. You know when we kill mother. No he
Speaker 1: killed Killker. I can't be killed Monger. He went crazy,
Speaker 1: he rocked. I just made him think maybe like the
Speaker 1: home killed Morkers home. Let's get let's let's get to
Speaker 1: the ship man, let's get the creed man. Let's do it. Um.
Speaker 1: Bro in In the one, I said, okay, he's coming.
Speaker 1: In the two, you sat in that hospital bed, you
Speaker 1: shook me up. I said, he's here. In three, I
Speaker 1: said he's out of control and you cheated. What you
Speaker 1: talking about the little girls in cheek of control? It's
Speaker 1: a cheek coat. I said, Oh, out of your mind,
Speaker 1: eurtic control. He must be stupid stum sitting I'm in
Speaker 1: there doing this. Whatever, Bro, I watched, I watched. I
Speaker 1: watched Create three and I was so proud of you
Speaker 1: favorite so many levels. I watched that entire movie with
Speaker 1: a smile on my favor and even when I was emotional,
Speaker 1: I still had a smile. Yeah it was. It was
Speaker 1: a man. And I'm sitting next to Kevin Gates. And
Speaker 1: when I say enjoying himself, I'm talking. You see that's
Speaker 1: where it goes right there, that's a souldier You had
Speaker 1: the what's going on? Right? So y'all were engaged? Yeah, yeah, yeah, Well,
Speaker 1: I say, at the time of his life, I love it.
Speaker 1: Great movie. It was, Bro, it was, it was it
Speaker 1: was amazing, and it was more growth. Yeah you're the director, man,
Speaker 1: it's crazy. It's a star. Give me give me the
Speaker 1: process real quick. Of you learning sign language? Oh so
Speaker 1: like I was learning sign language while I was working
Speaker 1: out in preproduction too. So like one of the things
Speaker 1: me and Bianca once I got the me and Tessa.
Speaker 1: When I got the new script, I was like, man,
Speaker 1: we should have just kept up with it from Creed too.
Speaker 1: We would have been way more fluent right now. We
Speaker 1: would have been great, you know what I'm saying. But
Speaker 1: but we we put ourselves on a you know, a
Speaker 1: fast track to kind of like learn it, uh while
Speaker 1: while I was working out. So like, while I was
Speaker 1: working I would work out, you know, have production meetings,
Speaker 1: script meetings, you know what I'm saying. Whatever, we're building
Speaker 1: the thing. But then I'll just go off to the
Speaker 1: side for a little bit, do an hour a day,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, with with my coach, and
Speaker 1: we would uh, you know, go through the basics, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. He would kind of like, you know,
Speaker 1: he would sign I would you know, you know, mimic
Speaker 1: the sign, and then he will test me on those
Speaker 1: like four or five signs, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: every like fifteen minutes or so, and then we would like,
Speaker 1: you know, recap that entire hour and I would try
Speaker 1: to go off memory and do that, and then the
Speaker 1: next day they'll recap half of what we did the
Speaker 1: day before, et cetera. Et cetera, and kind of just
Speaker 1: stare stepped me to uh until I didn't have any
Speaker 1: more time laugh. But honestly, on the day, I'm a
Speaker 1: real visual person. I'm a visual learning so I could
Speaker 1: I could, I could pick up on signs pretty quickly
Speaker 1: and then register it digested and then and then go
Speaker 1: go do what I gotta do. That was that was
Speaker 1: a very special part of the movie. Thank you, and
Speaker 1: and it and it was like it was it was
Speaker 1: we put we we It was a natural evolution of things.
Speaker 1: Of course movie. You know, Donnas meets the love of
Speaker 1: his life. You know what I'm saying, He asked progressive
Speaker 1: hearing loss. You know, we don't know what where where
Speaker 1: that's going? Cool? Second film we pick up he's starting
Speaker 1: a family of his own. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Now you know that the daughter can or can't she?
Speaker 1: You know, the parents have more concerned you know, a
Speaker 1: healthy baby. You know what I'm saying, kiddy get passed down?
Speaker 1: Does she have it or not? The heartbreak of you
Speaker 1: know within you know internally between the Donnas is okay, damn,
Speaker 1: Now what how am I going to move forward with this?
Speaker 1: Questions around that and it was played beautifully by you know,
Speaker 1: Rocky and Adonnas. You know what I'm saying, really trying
Speaker 1: to figure out like what manhood is and like what
Speaker 1: parents all about. You know, cool, we got that the
Speaker 1: third film. I don't have to talk about it. We're
Speaker 1: already fully a self family. You know, the house is
Speaker 1: already tricked out, and Donnas has clearly invested time to
Speaker 1: make sure and money to make sure his daughter is
Speaker 1: going to get all the things that he never got,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, and really trying to like
Speaker 1: you know, make her life a lot better and comfortable,
Speaker 1: et cetera, et cetera, and building all the things and
Speaker 1: blah blah blah blah whatever. So in this movie it
Speaker 1: was really important, like to just normalize in the way.
Speaker 1: You know, it really felt inclusive and it wasn't about
Speaker 1: the audience or anybody having sympathy for her. It's like, no,
Speaker 1: it's the empathy. You know, I understanding. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, what you need. She's Mila Davis Kent, Mila superstar, superstar, superstar, Yeah,
Speaker 1: and so talented, and I learned so much from her,
Speaker 1: so just and then she encouraged me like look like
Speaker 1: even if you don't know exactly the sign gesture, your
Speaker 1: body language is signing you know what I'm saying. And
Speaker 1: the deaf community appreciates that so much by not just
Speaker 1: talking to them or like getting frustrated, no gesture like try,
Speaker 1: like and that's something for us that you know, the hearing.
Speaker 1: We're definitely you know, you know, we're ignorant in a
Speaker 1: lot of ways. But but but and and but just
Speaker 1: getting out of your own get it out of our
Speaker 1: own head and being like, oh I can't do this,
Speaker 1: somethe feel stupid. D No, just try and I think
Speaker 1: it'll make a big difference. And my last piece, I mean,
Speaker 1: listen and them, I mean, let me tell you something, man, listen,
Speaker 1: what's up? What's up? Yeah, because I act a little
Speaker 1: bit like if you're a TV one and and and
Speaker 1: like lifetimes I'm like Michael beal okay, um, Michael G.
Speaker 1: I'm like Michael G. Michael G four Michael anyway, Um,
Speaker 1: you guys were having so many conversations outside of the script,
Speaker 1: like just within the physicality of how you guys were
Speaker 1: dealing with each other, from eye contact to no eye
Speaker 1: contact to when I say it was crazy. It was
Speaker 1: like y'all had done movies before, like you guys have
Speaker 1: been sync before in other moments to build because the
Speaker 1: build up that of chemistry, yeah, is really crazy and
Speaker 1: it's rare. It's rare, and that undercurrent that y'all were
Speaker 1: carrying along with what was being said in the environment.
Speaker 1: But it was incredible, Thank you. Man. No, he's he's
Speaker 1: a special talent, you know what I mean. He's a
Speaker 1: kindred spirit too, you know what I'm saying. He immediately
Speaker 1: he would feel like one of us, like like a
Speaker 1: brother for sure. Um and and and he he he,
Speaker 1: he has so much depth to him and complexities that
Speaker 1: just played perfectly you know in the film that we
Speaker 1: needed from our antagonis you know what I'm saying, to
Speaker 1: to to counter the counterbalance are equally as complex and
Speaker 1: the depth of a Donos you know, of our heroes
Speaker 1: so so so he played that perfectly. He was a workhorse.
Speaker 1: He you know, he was willing to get into shape.
Speaker 1: He was sacrificed, you know what I'm saying. He's you know,
Speaker 1: you know, just time just to really put it in
Speaker 1: and take this shit seriously, learning choreography, learning a certain style,
Speaker 1: you know, and bodying you know Damien as a character,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying coming from Crenshaw just being
Speaker 1: like just an la la story and and it and
Speaker 1: it worked, man, it really worked. And then the box
Speaker 1: and stuff just really like um fell into place. And
Speaker 1: that was one that I probably daydreamed the most about
Speaker 1: from like just over the course of the entire trilogy,
Speaker 1: just like how would I do the fights if I
Speaker 1: ever had an opportunity to do them? And like that
Speaker 1: was something that I really like said, we just want
Speaker 1: to swing for the fences. So why is he here? So?
Speaker 1: Why is he here? I mean, this is an R
Speaker 1: and B money, This R and B parka podcast. What
Speaker 1: was it? Okay, let's do it. Yeah, so you drink
Speaker 1: your tea. Oh yeah, I'm here to Uh no, Lord
Speaker 1: wanted to keep me humble. Were going with a cheat.
Speaker 1: I don't know where he's going down? Where you going?
Speaker 1: It was a little bit like it was little cheers
Speaker 1: and that a little bit. I heard cheers a little bit.
Speaker 1: It's a lot of bar action. It's low kind of
Speaker 1: far action to top five. Yeah, don't look at your
Speaker 1: top five, Michael, looking at you, Michael, You're top five?
Speaker 1: All be single yea, all this be Song, Micha Be,
Speaker 1: mich Go Bees talk five yo yo yeah, Tang Yang
Speaker 1: Tang Tan Yeah, clearly right now, Michael stop up, fuck
Speaker 1: Michael B. Jordan's your top five R and B singers.
Speaker 1: I'm going Marvin Gay. M h gotta go Marvin Gay.
Speaker 1: I'm going Russian. There's no particular order us. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm going. So if he's the king of pop, does
Speaker 1: that consider for play with Michael Jackson Beyonce four? Oh man, um,
Speaker 1: this is tough luth who ended out right look and
Speaker 1: that thing out right? Yeah yeah, lufa, lufa. I don't
Speaker 1: mention thanks going in there. I got you said. I
Speaker 1: don't mention thanks going in there. You're six man. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I got I gotta you know,
Speaker 1: Michael Jordan, I don't mind coming off the bench. I'm
Speaker 1: just saying, but I started, Yeah, we got we got
Speaker 1: one more thing, one more thing for you. Wonna let
Speaker 1: you out the doll You've been associated with it a
Speaker 1: lot of great people. Yeah, but in this segment, you
Speaker 1: better not. I ain't saying no names. I ain't saying
Speaker 1: no name. I ain't saying no names. Don't you don't
Speaker 1: say shit? I ain't saying no. I love y'all. I'm
Speaker 1: sorry I took to get here. I got this again,
Speaker 1: back standing invitation. Listen right now, you give us a
Speaker 1: story funnier fucked up or funny and fucked up. The
Speaker 1: only rule to the game is you can't say no names.
Speaker 1: This is Michael B. Wakanda, Creed Wire, Fruit Fruit Bill
Speaker 1: Station Jordan Whoa. I ain't saying no names, man, I
Speaker 1: got stories now. I gotta figure out how to tell
Speaker 1: these stories without no names. Okay, let me see what
Speaker 1: I got for y'all. It was frank. It was trying
Speaker 1: to think. What's it going? Um My mind goes, y'all, Okay,
Speaker 1: this listen. Uh you know, I'm no I'm gonna think
Speaker 1: it's something good. So so so let me let me,
Speaker 1: let me ponder. Come on, ponder. I would rather y'all
Speaker 1: give me like a city and then let me and
Speaker 1: then okay, okay, okay, is getting warm. Uh So I'm
Speaker 1: down in Miami. You know I usually stay at that
Speaker 1: particular hotel, and um, I'm promoting the film, so I'm
Speaker 1: money down there for a little bit of time. You know,
Speaker 1: you hit you know certain outlets. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: you know, just television, Telemundo. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: You know, you bounce around, you do your press or whatever,
Speaker 1: and you go back to the hotel and then that's
Speaker 1: when you do the rest of the press. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, press, junk and cool. Cool. So I
Speaker 1: had my dad press. I didn't eat that much that
Speaker 1: day because I woke up. It's a little late. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Uh, from the night before, which
Speaker 1: is it is we're in Miami, so there's not a
Speaker 1: lot of sleep going you know. You know, liquid I
Speaker 1: v's are helpful, Coconut water's top top tier rehydration. So
Speaker 1: next day, don't eat that much. Don't eat that much. Um.
Speaker 1: A couple of other co stars don't eat as much
Speaker 1: as either, So nobody's really eating a lot. A lot
Speaker 1: of tea. Un get the voice together, talking a lot.
Speaker 1: So we leave the hotel and when we go to uh,
Speaker 1: we go to dinner. At this point, you know, order
Speaker 1: advertisers here. I said, but you know, we're really drinking.
Speaker 1: We're really we're drinking a lot, you know, alcohols flowing.
Speaker 1: So it's a lot of drinks, not a lot of food.
Speaker 1: I repeat we have, we haven't. We didn't eat a
Speaker 1: lot the last couple of days. So we proceed to
Speaker 1: have a good time. Take a little little nibble here,
Speaker 1: a little of this, a little that, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Tasting a little bit, and I ain't eat
Speaker 1: a full meal. Cool? Great, right as time. I'm a
Speaker 1: little lit um. A couple of the people that I'm
Speaker 1: with they lit too, a little bit more more lit
Speaker 1: the I am. I'm usually the guy that, like you
Speaker 1: can't tell, is like really drunk, but I'm but I'm nice.
Speaker 1: I'm there, I'm all the way there. It looks like
Speaker 1: the lights around. Ain't nobody home? All right? A couple
Speaker 1: other people a little bit more visibly messed up. So
Speaker 1: in my mind, I'm like, okay, cool, let me let me,
Speaker 1: let me let me help these people get to where
Speaker 1: you know where we're going, you know what I'm saying, safely.
Speaker 1: So I'm in the middle of, like, you know, trying to,
Speaker 1: you know, help people get to where they gotta go,
Speaker 1: et cetera, et cetera. We run across some ladies. All right,
Speaker 1: this is Miami. You know what I'm saying. We're outside,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, the venue in which we're
Speaker 1: getting ready to go into, and some ladies that are there,
Speaker 1: they might have recognized maybe a couple of us or
Speaker 1: whatever case may be. All right, they wanted to roll
Speaker 1: in and we all rolling all access. So we're in
Speaker 1: this particular spot, more drinks are coming, a certain group
Speaker 1: of ladies are there. Um, one of the people that
Speaker 1: they're starts now look so good, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: They they you know, they stumbling a little bit, you know, balanced,
Speaker 1: a little off, all right, cool, And I'm like, hey, yo,
Speaker 1: I think it might be good. You probably should go
Speaker 1: back you know what I'm saying to where we came from.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, where we where we reside at.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I think it's I think
Speaker 1: it's I think it's done. You know. We gotta get
Speaker 1: up in the morning. We gotta leave. This is we
Speaker 1: did it. We did it, guys. We had a great time.
Speaker 1: It was a great time. Cool. So he didn't want
Speaker 1: to go. So he didn't want to leave, So he
Speaker 1: proceeded to to grab the bottle from a lady that
Speaker 1: was with us, and he grabbed it like so like
Speaker 1: he grabbed the bottle with like such force that he
Speaker 1: he cracked his own like face with it right like bah,
Speaker 1: and he just kind of like kept drinking. I saw
Speaker 1: it vividly, so I was like, oh shit. I was like,
Speaker 1: oh man, like that that was like that was like
Speaker 1: it was you know, it was a big bottle filming
Speaker 1: like that. I with that. That that's that's hurtful. That
Speaker 1: that's not that doesn't feel good. But he kept drinking
Speaker 1: like it was nothing. So everything was cool, blah blah blah. Great,
Speaker 1: So we had the rest of the night, had a
Speaker 1: good time. But blah blah blah. Get back in the car, cool,
Speaker 1: get back to the tell cool. I'm skipping over a
Speaker 1: lot of things, but that's not important to the story.
Speaker 1: Got it. Next morning? Wake up? My phone is like,
Speaker 1: what is going on? Hey, what's up? Fastop? Yeah, what's
Speaker 1: going on? Oh shit, what happened to you? What happened?
Speaker 1: He no, Mike, tell me what happened? Well, no, you're good.
Speaker 1: Happen what's good? What's what's going on you? Yo? Oh?
Speaker 1: Like I don't know, I don't I don't know how to.
Speaker 1: I don't know how to. You know, if he was
Speaker 1: calling the person I was supposed to calm him down
Speaker 1: and like act like it wasn't that. I wasn't. I
Speaker 1: wasn't the one. I'm fresh fresh, I'm fresh, Yo. You
Speaker 1: need to you gotta we gotta call somebody. And I
Speaker 1: don't know if you can get on the plane like that,
Speaker 1: like like I don't know if they're gonna let us.
Speaker 1: Do you want a plane like that? So you might
Speaker 1: need emergency dentists, you know what I'm saying, some stitches
Speaker 1: you feeling? It was, it was the whole situation, and
Speaker 1: that was. It was a knight in Miami. That's saying names.
Speaker 1: I did a good job. A couple of times I
Speaker 1: almost sucked up. I did a good job, a good job.
Speaker 1: Moral of the story is, huh, don't drink with Michael B.
Speaker 1: Jordan without eating, without eating? Yeah, because you want to
Speaker 1: try to match my ship, and don't don't match my ship.
Speaker 1: And if you're looking for you're looking to be consoled,
Speaker 1: consolt or comfort, don't call don't, don't, don't don't. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna tell to you real you're not you. You butch
Speaker 1: your ship, you bunch your ship. It's it's it was,
Speaker 1: it was, Yeah, it was m wow, I have been
Speaker 1: any knights in Miami of those kinds that I don't
Speaker 1: really remember, you know, just just thank the Lord. I
Speaker 1: woke up in the hotel I checked in. That's crazy,
Speaker 1: not me. I don't live like that anymore. Ever, what
Speaker 1: you mean? I don't live like that. I always know
Speaker 1: where I'm gonna wake up at again. Ever, Okay, you
Speaker 1: know me a long time. You ain't never seen me
Speaker 1: get they ain't. Nobody had to do. I know you
Speaker 1: hold your ship very well too, though. No, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: he doesn't. He don't do what we're talking about. But
Speaker 1: he gets extremely violent. Yeah, depends what he drinking, you know. Okay,
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. Nice guy. He's like people, Yeah, these niggas.
Speaker 1: And then it just goes from there. It goes from there.
Speaker 1: It goes from us having a great time to him
Speaker 1: telling Steph Curry all right, telling niggas take a picture
Speaker 1: with us if he want to be safe out there.
Speaker 1: I said, why do I have to sell them? Why
Speaker 1: do I have to if you want to be safe?
Speaker 1: Why does it have to be the masage? Why do
Speaker 1: I why I got the picture with pictures on my face?
Speaker 1: Shot crazy? That's not how I related The man with
Speaker 1: his brother. But Mike be my brother. Oh man, you're
Speaker 1: awesome brother. Yeah. And that's just not that's just not
Speaker 1: you know, friends talking. That's that's um. You know, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna pull myself outside of that outside looking at it. Man.
Speaker 1: Amazing brother, man, thank you've done amazing work. Um. Um
Speaker 1: your your your legs clean man, and keep it that way. Brother.
Speaker 1: You represent well my ladies and gentlemen. My name is taking.
Speaker 1: This is the Army Money podcast and uh do you
Speaker 1: say that? Cool? And uh what else can I say? Man?
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