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Speaker 1: and your spacing around being able to get back in transition,

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Speaker 1: you are missing out on a huge chunk of points

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Speaker 1: that you can take advantage of on both ends of

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Speaker 1: the floor. Third biggest takeaway, you still need an apex

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Speaker 1: shot creator. When things got ugly for Oklahoma City, it

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Speaker 1: was shake Gil just Alexander who put games away, big

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Speaker 1: moments against Denver in Game four and in Game five,

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Speaker 1: particularly down the stretch in Game four. He was huge

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Speaker 1: versus Indiana, amazing down the stretching Game four, but also

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Speaker 1: for entire games in game two and in game five

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Speaker 1: and in game seven. Look at other teams in this

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Speaker 1: playoff run. What Tyre's Halliburton did, the game winners that

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Speaker 1: he hit in each series, Nikole Jokich and what he

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Speaker 1: did with Denver almost pushing Oklahoma City to the brink.

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Speaker 1: What Jalen Brunson was able to do for the New

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Speaker 1: York Knicks to me, as you look back, the exception

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Speaker 1: is actually Boston. Boston was the team that didn't have

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Speaker 1: your traditional APEX star that won, but they were a

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Speaker 1: unique circumstance. They had five players that would command over

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Speaker 1: thirty million dollars a year in the open market. They

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Speaker 1: had this brilliant spacing. It was like kind of like

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Speaker 1: a cumulative star power that Boston brought to the table.

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Speaker 1: And there aren't many teams in the league that can

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Speaker 1: ever find themselves in a situation where they can field

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Speaker 1: five really expensive players like that. They are the exception.

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Speaker 1: If you go back, though, it's Jake Eildess Alexander this year,

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Speaker 1: it's Jokic. The year before Boston, it's Steph. The year

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Speaker 1: before Jokic, it's Jannis. The year before Steph, it's Lebron.

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Speaker 1: The year before Yannis, it's Kawhi the year before Lebron.

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Speaker 1: We can go back, and we can go back, and

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Speaker 1: we can go back for all of the talk about depth,

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Speaker 1: and again, depth does matter, we're about to talk about it.

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Speaker 1: You still need an apex star. Boston is the exception

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Speaker 1: to that rule because of their aggregate talent. You need

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Speaker 1: a guy that's like I can create great shots for

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Speaker 1: my team in shitty, physical, ugly half court playoff environments.

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Speaker 1: Number four Depth More transition means more running, more drive

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Speaker 1: and kick means more covering ground. In rotation, NBA players

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Speaker 1: are running and moving around the floor more than ever before.

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Speaker 1: I think this is a big part of the Achilles

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Speaker 1: tear issue that the NBA has been having for a

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Speaker 1: little while. Think about the landslide runs that Oklahoma City

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Speaker 1: and Indiana went on at various points during the postseason,

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Speaker 1: just simply because their opponents eventually wore down under the

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Speaker 1: ball pressure, under the physicality. The playoffs are a war

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Speaker 1: of attrition, and if you have eight or nine guys

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Speaker 1: that you can reliably trust in a postseason setting, you

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Speaker 1: can keep your starters minutes down in the mid to

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Speaker 1: low thirties, which gives you a better chance, or a

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Speaker 1: mid to high thirties. For some guys. Keeping the minutes

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Speaker 1: down in the thirties gives you a better chance of

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Speaker 1: holding up over four playoff rounds. If you have a

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Speaker 1: six or six and a half seven man rotation, suddenly

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Speaker 1: all your starters are pushing up into the forty forty

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Speaker 1: five minute range. That's where you end up having problems

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Speaker 1: with wear and tear over the course of the postseason.

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Speaker 1: And again, it's not the end all be all. We've

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Speaker 1: seen teams that don't have an enormous amount of depth

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Speaker 1: win before. But I do believe it is a legitimate

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Speaker 1: advantage in the modern NBA because of the amount of

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Speaker 1: running there is, all of the transition, all of the

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Speaker 1: drive and kick has put more miles per minute on

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Speaker 1: the NBA body than ever before, and depth is a

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Speaker 1: great counter for that specific issue. Lastly, dribble, shoot, pass,

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Speaker 1: and defend role players. This is a concept I've talked

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Speaker 1: about ad nauseum over the course of the last few months.

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Speaker 1: We talked about it a lot with Samsini in our

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Speaker 1: pre draft podcast. Like we talked about with creating advantages,

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Speaker 1: there are all these different guys in the league that

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Speaker 1: specialize in creating advantages. Giannis and his downhill force causes

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Speaker 1: teams to build a wall. He's spraying the ball out

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Speaker 1: to wide open shooters all day long, right Mary halliburtn

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Speaker 1: just through his remarkable quick decision making with kick ahead

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Speaker 1: passes and his ability to make reads out of ball screens.

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Speaker 1: He's constantly setting up players with a catch on the

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Speaker 1: perimeter with the dude sprinting out at him at the

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Speaker 1: three point line. Shake Gilgess, Alexander like legitimately drawing lots

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Speaker 1: of double teams from Indiana down the stretch of that series.

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Speaker 1: Nikola Jokic constantly drawing double teams out of the post,

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Speaker 1: dumping it off to players. I don't care who it

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Speaker 1: is or how they do it. Steph Curry sprinting off

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Speaker 1: of off ball screens and constantly drawing multiple defenders. These

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Speaker 1: guys create situations where either a player is standing at

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Speaker 1: the three point line wide open with a guy sprinting

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Speaker 1: out at them, or inverted spacing catching the ball around

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Speaker 1: the middle of the floor in a man up advantage,

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Speaker 1: meaning like a four on three or a three on

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Speaker 1: two where that guy has to either quickly score or

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Speaker 1: make a quick decision. That is the type of advantage.

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Speaker 1: Those are the type of advantages that these stars are creating.

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Speaker 1: You need to have players that can knock down, catch

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Speaker 1: and shoot threes, drive closeouts, make decisions when they drive

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Speaker 1: close outs, or make decisions in short role situations. That's

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Speaker 1: the dribble shoot pass element of it. But at the

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Speaker 1: same time, if you can't defend it, becomes a problem

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Speaker 1: on the other end of the floor. So a role

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Speaker 1: player that has versatility on that front, it doesn't matter

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Speaker 1: if you're the best shooter in that group, but you

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Speaker 1: can't dribble, you can't pass, and you can't defend. Having

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Speaker 1: a stability in those four categories, being a somewhat useful

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Speaker 1: defender that can pass the ball, that can knock down

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Speaker 1: a shot, that can drive a close out. That type

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Speaker 1: of versatility becomes immensely valuable in a modern MBA where

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Speaker 1: there's lots of advantage creation that's creating those advantages for you,

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Speaker 1: and that you're constantly operating in transition where you need

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Speaker 1: to guard a random player and a train position crossmatch,

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Speaker 1: or because a good screen gets set and now you're

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Speaker 1: switched onto a bigger player onto a smaller player. Versatility

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Speaker 1: out of the role players is how you maximize star

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Speaker 1: talent in the modern NBA. These are things. These five

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Speaker 1: things are the things that I think front offices need

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Speaker 1: to be targeting with their roster construction, that coaches need

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Speaker 1: to be emphasizing with their coaching from day one in camp.

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Speaker 1: You've got to generate margins somewhere. You have to be

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Speaker 1: able to control the transition game, both on defense keeping

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Speaker 1: your opponent out of transition and then hunting transition opportunities

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Speaker 1: as much as possible. You have to find an apex

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Speaker 1: advantage creator. You cannot win a championship without one. You

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Speaker 1: need to have depth to be able to survive all

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Speaker 1: the mileage that you're putting on bodies throughout the season,

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Speaker 1: and your role players need to be versatile with the

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Speaker 1: ability to shoot, drive, closeouts, play out of the short role,

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Speaker 1: and to defend multiple players on the other end of

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Speaker 1: the floor. Those to me are the market inefficiencies around

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Speaker 1: the NBA that teams need to be hunting. All right, guys,

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Speaker 1: that's all I have for today. As always, a sincerely

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Speaker 1: appreciate you guys for supporting me and supporting the show.

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Speaker 1: We're going to take the next day off, Wednesday off

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Speaker 1: in Summer League. What we have planned is on Thursday night,

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Speaker 1: we'll have an instant reaction to the Cooper flag, Dylan Harper,

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Speaker 1: Brownie James games from Thursday night. We'll have that on

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Speaker 1: the feed that evening on Friday morning. Jovan Buja, who

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Speaker 1: runs a Great Lakers YouTube channel, you guys might remember me,

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Speaker 1: used to cover the Lakers for the Athletic as well.

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Speaker 1: He'll be coming on the show to talk some Lakers stuff.

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Speaker 1: On Friday night, we have another instant reaction to some

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Speaker 1: Summer League games from that day. We also have Adam

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Speaker 1: Marees coming on the show to talk some Denver Nuggets,

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Speaker 1: and then we will also have an episode on Saturday

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Speaker 1: night as well, breaking down the second round of games

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Speaker 1: for the top picks Cooper Flag and Dylan Harper. We'll

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Speaker 1: be recording on Friday night and Saturday night at the

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Speaker 1: Win Studio in Vegas, So I'm super excited about that.

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Speaker 1: We'll be around, We'll be at the games, so make

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Speaker 1: let you guys know where we're at. If you guys

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Speaker 1: want to come, say hi. But again, jam pack week

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Speaker 1: schedule for you guys in Summer League that we're very

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Speaker 1: excited for. All right, we will see you guys later

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