1 00:00:01,680 --> 00:00:05,680 Speaker 1: No, well, Confessions Too. 2 00:00:07,240 --> 00:00:14,400 Speaker 2: Was partially all my story Part two, Part two, but 3 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:16,560 Speaker 2: that part one that you're talking about was just like 4 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:23,319 Speaker 2: me just thinking of what could possibly be happening, if 5 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:27,520 Speaker 2: you know, to goddess and Ush's. 6 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:30,040 Speaker 3: Position, Okay, what you prefer one or two? 7 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:31,639 Speaker 4: Because I have this debate all the time with like 8 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:34,199 Speaker 4: real R and B heads, and of course two is 9 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:39,920 Speaker 4: the smash, but I think Confessions one might be. 10 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:39,920 Speaker 3: Better as time is went. 11 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:45,520 Speaker 4: From not a hit record standpoint, just from a music standpoint. 12 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:50,560 Speaker 2: I mean a story because it's something. The first version 13 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 2: is called all bad. It's not called confessions. That's what it's. 14 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 2: You know, it's called all bad. So the all bad, 15 00:00:57,400 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 2: the story of all bad. I think it is better 16 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:05,480 Speaker 2: than two. But two was just so you know, deliberate 17 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 2: about you know, a guy having a girlfriend, getting a 18 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:13,200 Speaker 2: girl pregnant, and you know it ain't much you can 19 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:16,840 Speaker 2: much wiggle room in there, but this every time I 20 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 2: was in La, i was with my ex girlfriend, it's 21 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 2: so many layers of that that, you know what I mean, 22 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:25,959 Speaker 2: And I just was running away with it like it's like. 23 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:28,920 Speaker 5: Oh I could say this too, Oh I can say 24 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:30,680 Speaker 5: it's so yeah. 25 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 4: So then how many times have you had to lie 26 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 4: to the woman in your personal life that now it. 27 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 3: Was just lyrics. I was talking shit, that wasn't true. 28 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:42,119 Speaker 5: I mean, well, I think, well, let me take that back. 29 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:45,840 Speaker 4: Take that back, definitely say babe, that was come on, 30 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 4: I was just writing. 31 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 1: It was just for the art, never for other people. 32 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 6: Me. 33 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, my lyrics. I have had to take that, like, 34 00:01:57,800 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 2: you know, I forgot to be rapping. 35 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 7: Sometimes you can do it's easier to do it for 36 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 7: other artists. 37 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 8: I'm just writing, but when it's your record, it's like, nah. 38 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 5: Come on, you know it was my record, and people. 39 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:12,280 Speaker 2: Like, so, yeah, you was doing what. 40 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm like, I thought I was writing for us. 41 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:20,160 Speaker 4: Just throw us under the bus, Like now I think 42 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 4: he's coming trying to get into this world of his head, 43 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:24,520 Speaker 4: like come on, you know. 44 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 7: I mean this Yeah yeah, yeah, I just you know, 45 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 7: let's go to let's talk about the beginning of JD 46 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 7: because a lot of people don't I mean, I'm sure 47 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 7: you talked about it before, but a lot of people 48 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:37,120 Speaker 7: don't know that you actually lived in New York for 49 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 7: a while. 50 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:46,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, like thirteen fourteen fifteen, I stayed in Brooklyn Easy 51 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 2: High School. 52 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:49,359 Speaker 3: You went to you from Crown Heights. Why Atlanta keep 53 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:49,960 Speaker 3: trying to claim. 54 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 5: Him from New York Street? 55 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 2: I didn't. I didn't go to high school. I was 56 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:56,120 Speaker 2: I actually had a tutor, okay, and I was staying 57 00:02:56,120 --> 00:03:01,680 Speaker 2: with actually Chad Elliott, and Chad actually lived in Brooklyn. 58 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 5: That's where I was basically staying with him. 59 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 2: But yeah, that's what I actually, you know, that was 60 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 2: a good learning crash course for me to be in 61 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:16,680 Speaker 2: New York at that period of time and for me 62 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:18,799 Speaker 2: to be that young, to be able to stay there 63 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 2: and just see what was going on and just to 64 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:25,840 Speaker 2: be around. You know, it's a thing when you don't 65 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 2: have money and you, like I guess you're poor, you 66 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 2: see a lot and you don't get into no trouble 67 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 2: because don'tbody want to rob you. You could just go 68 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 2: wherever you want to go, you know what I mean? 69 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 2: So I got I got opportunity, you know, go to 70 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 2: Fort Green. 71 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 8: You wouldn't go there. 72 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 5: Now, get haircuts from knaps. 73 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 3: Oh, it's really nice and for Green, you know what 74 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 3: I mean? 75 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 2: Like, you know, I got chased by the Decepticons. 76 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 3: Wow? 77 00:03:56,800 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 8: Uh, how do you put that in the Army record? 78 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 5: Nobody, girl knows. 79 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 2: What I'm talking about because yeah, I think yesterday, back yesterday, 80 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 2: we were in the group chat about all the homies 81 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 2: and he tried to post the pictures on my hot 82 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:18,120 Speaker 2: like bad dress days or whatever, and I had all 83 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 2: polo pull up to head Chel and I was like, Nigga, 84 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 2: want decept to come. 85 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:25,840 Speaker 8: He didn't know what you was talking about? 86 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 6: Her? 87 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:29,159 Speaker 2: Never heard of low life forms in here? 88 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:29,480 Speaker 6: Right? 89 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:32,520 Speaker 8: You keep forgetting who you're talking to you I forgot. 90 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, he definitely don't know. 91 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 7: I don't know something about that. The low had bunch 92 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:39,600 Speaker 7: of people don't know. They probably listening like. 93 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, they don't even know what the sad low. 94 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 4: So in case you ain't know, so what that actually 95 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:46,920 Speaker 4: means at the end of the day, that's some real 96 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:48,239 Speaker 4: Brooklyn booster ship. 97 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 5: Super Brooklyn. I ain't know what it was, by the way, I. 98 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:55,839 Speaker 2: Just I learned like this, like yeah, yeah, because I 99 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 2: mean here in Atlanta, we wore a lot of polo, 100 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 2: and Polo was like the thing here. So you know, 101 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 2: me going to New York and having on polo and 102 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:10,800 Speaker 2: and I was little niggas was trying to get oh yeah, 103 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:12,160 Speaker 2: I'm gonna get ribbed. 104 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:12,560 Speaker 5: For some polo. 105 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:13,040 Speaker 8: Yeah. 106 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 4: Absolutely, that was Currncy. What brought you back to Atlanta 107 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:17,920 Speaker 4: at that point? 108 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:20,800 Speaker 5: I mean, I was, I was still I lived here. 109 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 2: I just was. I was just with Chad, and I mean, 110 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 2: my my, you know, I was like Johnny five at 111 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 2: at that age. I was just like, if it was 112 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:33,919 Speaker 2: hip hop, I had to be right there wherever it 113 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 2: was at. 114 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:36,039 Speaker 5: So it was some hip hop going on. 115 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 6: I was. 116 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 5: So when my mother, I was like, Yo, can I 117 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 5: go stay with Chad? 118 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:47,279 Speaker 2: My mom was like, yeah, go ahead about when I went. 119 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 2: And I stayed up there and I and I and 120 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:50,919 Speaker 2: I ended up liking it and I wanted to be 121 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:51,720 Speaker 2: there more. 122 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 5: And I just stayed, you know what I mean. 123 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 2: And it's crazy because, like I said, the it's almost 124 00:05:57,640 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 2: like slum Dog Millionaire for me because it's like the 125 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:03,359 Speaker 2: things that started happening to me after that. 126 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 5: I knew what to do based on me living and 127 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 5: you know what I mean, so or I. 128 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:13,480 Speaker 2: Knew what the answers was based on me being there. 129 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:16,839 Speaker 2: So it's like it's really weird, like that type of situation. 130 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:18,800 Speaker 4: You think that more on a business side or a 131 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 4: music side of that time in Brooklyn and how it 132 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:25,120 Speaker 4: resonated with you was I I'm saying from taking that 133 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 4: time in Brooklyn, how did to go into the music 134 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 4: moving forward to how going to the business as far 135 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:32,279 Speaker 4: as reading people, being in New York City and being 136 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 4: in a whole new city as far as music goes 137 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:35,719 Speaker 4: as well, I'm coming back to Atlanta. 138 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:39,600 Speaker 2: I mean really for me, it was like I guess 139 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 2: I ended up building relationships that I didn't even know 140 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:44,719 Speaker 2: that I was That's what I'm saying. I didn't even 141 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 2: know that I was going I could. I mean, you know, 142 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 2: I was trying to produce, like I think fifteen probably yeah, fifteen, 143 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 2: I me and Chad was making beats and what he 144 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:01,920 Speaker 2: was trying to make even have no equipment. We just 145 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:04,839 Speaker 2: had records, right, We just had a whole bunch of records. 146 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 5: His mom had records. 147 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 2: And I think it was like downtown record store. Is 148 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 2: that the neameborhood? It was either it was Downtown Records 149 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 2: or something like that. 150 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 5: It was a record store in Brooklyn. 151 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:22,960 Speaker 2: That that's where I first saw a break beat and 152 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 2: I saw a breakbeat collection and I bought the collection 153 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 2: and it's still in there somewhere right there. But that's 154 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 2: when I just started my love for like, oh, I'm 155 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 2: gonna make beats, but I ain't really I still didn't 156 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 2: have no drum machine. And I used to just like 157 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:41,680 Speaker 2: play the records and just like think in my head, 158 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 2: like we're gonna sample this. 159 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 5: And like I said, oddly enough. 160 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 2: It was just be like I just meet somebody, like 161 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 2: I meet different DJs, this that person. 162 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 5: And then once I started making records, I had. 163 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 2: These these these relationships already just that that was just 164 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 2: right there based on me being you know, being a 165 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 2: young dude. So I guess it worked out for both 166 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:12,240 Speaker 2: business and and you know what I mean, and and 167 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 2: and on the artist. 168 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:15,240 Speaker 3: Side, what were y'all listening to with that? 169 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 2: So, I mean I was listening to like whatever was 170 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 2: you know, the radio was, you know, I guess b LS, Magic, 171 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 2: Crap Attack. I never missed that. 172 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:34,080 Speaker 6: You know. 173 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:37,800 Speaker 2: I was in this house tape taping the radio shows 174 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 2: and so anything everything that was, everything that was coming 175 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 2: out I was listening to. It was like, like I said, 176 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:48,480 Speaker 2: I was just a sponge. It was never like it 177 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 2: wasn't one hip hop record that I didn't know. They 178 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 2: wont one hip hop record that came out that I 179 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:59,360 Speaker 2: wasn't like up on even like and like it's it's 180 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:02,120 Speaker 2: weird because, like I say, even with the whole like 181 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:03,640 Speaker 2: I started djaying. 182 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 5: Around that same time, like about. 183 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:09,479 Speaker 8: Fifteen, where it was like house parties. 184 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:19,440 Speaker 7: Or no never DJ real justj okay, okayj. 185 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:20,319 Speaker 5: DJ being Chad was DJing in the house and. 186 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 2: Living on Eastern Parkway. I learned Jamaican records that I 187 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 2: would have never course don't. We don't have that, so 188 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 2: you know, the main I think the biggest record when 189 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 2: I stayed in Brooklyn was cool mm hmm. 190 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:44,320 Speaker 8: They don't know nothing about that, you know what. 191 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 2: We go outside I'm talking about. 192 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:50,200 Speaker 5: I'm like, what the hell is this? 193 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:54,959 Speaker 2: Every block boom boom boom, so you know, but that's 194 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:56,560 Speaker 2: what I'm saying. So all of this stuff is like 195 00:09:57,360 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 2: these all these little pieces that I didn't actually know 196 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:01,840 Speaker 2: that I it's gonna have to that that I could 197 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:05,040 Speaker 2: use or you know, or what was gonna happen with 198 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 2: me with a producer. But it was just it definitely 199 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 2: was a crazy learning I mean school basically. 200 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, and when you full hip hop fifteen year old 201 00:10:15,280 --> 00:10:18,200 Speaker 4: JD at that time, yeah, not even thinking R and 202 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:19,000 Speaker 4: B would even be a. 203 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:25,800 Speaker 3: Path for you, nah uh never, which is crazy. 204 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:28,320 Speaker 4: What sparked that R and B part of your brain, 205 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 4: because I could even see some of those Jamaican records 206 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 4: as much as a lot of those breakbeat stuff in 207 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:36,200 Speaker 4: old dancehall stuff is hip hop. A lot of that 208 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 4: melodic shit is really from R and B. 209 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 2: It is. 210 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 5: I mean, you know, it was crazy about the the 211 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:46,880 Speaker 5: R and B side. I don't. I didn't approach R 212 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 5: and B like R and B. 213 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 2: I approached it like I could write songs, so I'm like, 214 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 2: you know, and I wrote, I write hooks, so I 215 00:10:58,080 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 2: write the hooks for the some rap records. I'm like, 216 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:03,160 Speaker 2: if I write a hook, I could write, I could 217 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 2: possibly write a song. But I never I never was 218 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 2: doing it prior to trying to do it. So once 219 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 2: Crisscross came out and they was so big, and Babyface 220 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:19,680 Speaker 2: told me that, you know, I wasn't ship if I 221 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 2: couldn't do it again, I was like, well, all right, 222 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 2: I gotta figure out how to do something else. So 223 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 2: my mind started just going into like, Okay, I'm gonna 224 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:31,880 Speaker 2: try to make an R and B record, and I was. 225 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 2: I was fearless at that time too. When you don't 226 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:36,800 Speaker 2: have a bunch of hits, you don't kid if you 227 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 2: don't make none. By the way, if the first person 228 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:43,439 Speaker 2: I went in the studio, if they would have listened 229 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:49,600 Speaker 2: to me, I would have been responsible for sampling, damn 230 00:11:49,640 --> 00:11:53,880 Speaker 2: this sampling records period, because that's that's all I wanted 231 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:56,400 Speaker 2: to do. I didn't have a mind to like make music. 232 00:11:56,920 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 2: My mind was we're gonna take this and we're gonna 233 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 2: rap over this, We're gonna put this part in, and 234 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:05,040 Speaker 2: we're gonna put this part in, like and. 235 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 8: Who was this artist? 236 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 3: And I want. 237 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:14,040 Speaker 2: I don't want to do that because I mean I 238 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:18,880 Speaker 2: don't want you know, But that that that them not 239 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:22,480 Speaker 2: understanding because it wasn't really like a It wasn't really 240 00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:25,000 Speaker 2: like a thing that they was like, JD, you don't 241 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:26,960 Speaker 2: know what the fuck you're talking about. Or maybe it 242 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:28,920 Speaker 2: was because I was young, but at the same time, 243 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:37,320 Speaker 2: it was like it was unusual for probably a fifteen 244 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 2: year old kid to be saying, like, yo, let's take 245 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 2: these people's music and let's loop it and let me 246 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:47,200 Speaker 2: rap over it. And to them at that time in 247 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:57,280 Speaker 2: nineteen probably eighty nine, yeah, probably eighty nine, that sounded 248 00:12:57,320 --> 00:13:01,360 Speaker 2: like stealing, you know what I mean, completely thievery. 249 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 3: Right, so and no musical integrity. 250 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, not one bit, so so you know, I would 251 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:10,680 Speaker 2: go one place and I'm like, listen, I want you 252 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:12,440 Speaker 2: to loop this record up. By the way, I didn't 253 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 2: even know what that meant. I ain't had no drum machine, 254 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:17,200 Speaker 2: so I'm not really even knowing. I'm just like, I 255 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 2: want this to play the whole time. 256 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:19,360 Speaker 3: I like this part. 257 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:24,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, And the dude was like, it can't take their music, 258 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:26,840 Speaker 2: but I'm gonna make something that sound like it. And 259 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:31,320 Speaker 2: I'm like, all right, let me give you a chance 260 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:32,840 Speaker 2: to see if you're gonna make something to sound like 261 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:41,360 Speaker 2: make some I'm like, nah, that ain't it. That ain't it, 262 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:43,560 Speaker 2: that's not it, that's not what. That's not that's not 263 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:45,720 Speaker 2: the sound I want. And then I had Chad there 264 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 2: and we both like, nah, we're supposed to sample this. 265 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 5: Now we don't know. 266 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:53,440 Speaker 2: We don't know what we're talking about because I don't 267 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:55,520 Speaker 2: know what sampling is. Like I said, I never even 268 00:13:55,559 --> 00:14:03,040 Speaker 2: had no I ain't have no equipment. So something happened 269 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:05,440 Speaker 2: in that process where and this was records that me 270 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 2: and Chad was trying to make. We was trying to 271 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:10,280 Speaker 2: be artists, and in that process that didn't work. 272 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:12,559 Speaker 5: Me and Chad didn't work as artists. 273 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:17,040 Speaker 2: Records came out on an independent but dydn't do nothing. 274 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:20,800 Speaker 2: But I mean, at the same time I was doing 275 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:22,640 Speaker 2: exact same thing. Man him was rapping. 276 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 5: I was writing. 277 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 2: Hooks and I was writing, but I didn't have the 278 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:33,360 Speaker 2: production part yet and so I didn't like, I didn't 279 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 2: really love the music. So these girls that I met 280 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:44,800 Speaker 2: on tour with Houdini when I was on the Fresh Veest, 281 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 2: they was like, we wanted we group, and I'm like, 282 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 2: y'all group. I'm like, well, y'all should. 283 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 5: Let me produce you. I never produced. 284 00:14:56,880 --> 00:14:58,880 Speaker 2: Straight said this, this is what I've said, and it 285 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:01,720 Speaker 2: was like what And I'm like, yea, you should let 286 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 2: me produce you. We go back to Atlanta, you should 287 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 2: let me produce you. Now I was thinking already back 288 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:10,400 Speaker 2: to Atlanta. I'm like, listen, they got a car. They 289 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:13,080 Speaker 2: they older, they can come pick me up, they could 290 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 2: take me places I have nothing, Like, I'm just trying 291 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:17,560 Speaker 2: to stand. 292 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:19,400 Speaker 3: They got a car. 293 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're gonna come pick me up and get some 294 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 2: food whatever whatever it is, right, So I'm seeing all 295 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:28,360 Speaker 2: of this, but we on tour. So yeah, So at sixteen, 296 00:15:29,320 --> 00:15:32,240 Speaker 2: I had the I started making beats and I'm making beats, 297 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 2: making beats, and I think I want to say the 298 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:39,720 Speaker 2: Soup Times Leather. 299 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 5: Project had come out. It was doing okay. 300 00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:46,760 Speaker 2: It wasn't like I said, it didn't do amazing, but 301 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 2: it did enough to get like a little bit of 302 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 2: notoriety for them. I got a little bit of money, 303 00:15:52,280 --> 00:15:56,280 Speaker 2: and they got into Jet Magazine. And when they got 304 00:15:56,280 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 2: in Jet Magazine, they had a full little picture in there. 305 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:04,280 Speaker 2: And that's what got the Chris's mom to notice me 306 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:07,640 Speaker 2: at at the mall, because if she wouldn't have saw 307 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:11,440 Speaker 2: that Jet magazine, she I probably wouldn't even hooked up 308 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:14,640 Speaker 2: with Chris and Chris because the DJ from Silk Times 309 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:17,000 Speaker 2: Leather was with me and she was like, I just 310 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:20,400 Speaker 2: saw you in Jet magazine. They weren't thinking about me, 311 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:22,600 Speaker 2: so they was thinking about her. They thought, okay, well 312 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 2: this gotta be legit because I seen her in the magazine. 313 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 2: That's the only thing that probably like that. Definitely that 314 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 2: saved me and got me connected with Christ and Christ. 315 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 2: But basically I was just walking through the mall, no Greenbrie. 316 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 2: I went to greenbro mall to get get some sneakers, 317 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:43,280 Speaker 2: I think, and just a humbug and Chris and Chris 318 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 2: was in the mall and like I said, I'm just 319 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:51,440 Speaker 2: looking at them, and I'm thinking, like, you guys must 320 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:54,720 Speaker 2: be like on Nickelodeon or something like, because I was like, 321 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:57,360 Speaker 2: I'm not. I'm super hip hop by the way, So 322 00:16:57,440 --> 00:17:00,880 Speaker 2: I don't like Nickelodeon, I don't like nothing, and I 323 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:04,879 Speaker 2: don't like nothing that's remotely close to Disney any of that. Right, 324 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:09,159 Speaker 2: So but I keep looking at these kids, and the 325 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:11,920 Speaker 2: girls in the mall they watching them like, so I'm 326 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:13,720 Speaker 2: asking people, I'm like, who is this and people like, 327 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:17,080 Speaker 2: oh no, and they go to this. So I'm actually 328 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:21,240 Speaker 2: at this point following these kids around them all and 329 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:23,480 Speaker 2: they go to the Cookie Company they used to be 330 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:24,400 Speaker 2: like the Cookie. 331 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 4: Company and thank god you was a kid too, and yeah. 332 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:33,640 Speaker 2: So I'm following these kids around and I'm a kid too, 333 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 2: So don't you know, he's looking crazy? And they go 334 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:41,119 Speaker 2: to cookie counter and the girls just working at Cookie 335 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 2: Company they freaking out. They screaming, They're giving them free cookies. 336 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:50,600 Speaker 8: All off the look. They're not famous, nothing, nothing, okay, 337 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:55,680 Speaker 8: And I'm like, yeah, I'm. 338 00:17:55,520 --> 00:17:58,240 Speaker 2: Like, is this like this gotta be a joke or 339 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:00,359 Speaker 2: something like what's going on right now? They felt like 340 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:02,640 Speaker 2: I was in the Twilight Zone because I'm like, nobody 341 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:05,400 Speaker 2: else around me is paying no attention to this, right, 342 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:09,040 Speaker 2: Like the girl that's with me, Dola mixed from some 343 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:11,560 Speaker 2: times other she ain't saying like, yo, look at that. 344 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 2: It seemed like nobody's paying no attention to this but 345 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:18,359 Speaker 2: me and this ship is happening. Like so I'm sitting 346 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:22,399 Speaker 2: them looking, I'm like, somebody got to tell me something. 347 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:24,560 Speaker 2: So first of all, I'm mad because I ain't got 348 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:25,320 Speaker 2: no free cookies. 349 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:27,080 Speaker 5: That's that's first. 350 00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:29,760 Speaker 2: That's first, because I'm like, I'm not even really I'm not. 351 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:33,040 Speaker 2: It ain't hit me yet that they could be a group. 352 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:38,080 Speaker 2: I'm just I'm thinking they just somebody already. Not nothing 353 00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:40,440 Speaker 2: about me being like I could write for these kids 354 00:18:40,480 --> 00:18:42,160 Speaker 2: or nothing. I don't have that even in my brain. 355 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:47,240 Speaker 2: I'm trying to figure out how she and the magazine 356 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:52,399 Speaker 2: I'm with her, y'all giving them free cookies and we 357 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:55,000 Speaker 2: should be getting the fresh. That's what I'm trying to 358 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:55,440 Speaker 2: figure out. 359 00:18:56,280 --> 00:18:59,199 Speaker 3: And I heard that's why you're a vegan to this day. 360 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:04,840 Speaker 2: Noah shouldn't be. So I go, I go over to them. Mom, 361 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:08,240 Speaker 2: I'm like, yo, what what do y'all do. And it's 362 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:11,560 Speaker 2: like what I said, what y'all do? And he's like, 363 00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:15,440 Speaker 2: what you mean when we do? I'm like, what do y'all. 364 00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:17,080 Speaker 3: To school? 365 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:21,320 Speaker 5: They're like, we just cool. I'm like, y'all just cool. 366 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:25,840 Speaker 2: And like yeah, I said, well, y'all don't rap and 367 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:29,040 Speaker 2: they said rap like rapping was whacked. By the way, 368 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:31,680 Speaker 2: this is the moment in time when I will never 369 00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:34,320 Speaker 2: ever see in life because every little young motherfucker think 370 00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:38,080 Speaker 2: you can wrap. This was a time period when kids 371 00:19:38,119 --> 00:19:39,240 Speaker 2: didn't want to be rappers. 372 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:42,560 Speaker 4: I feel like adults. Hope talks about that all the time. 373 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:44,280 Speaker 4: Like he was like, I didn't. I was a secret 374 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 4: that I was a rapper because rappers weren't really cool 375 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:46,800 Speaker 4: at that time. 376 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:49,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I guess right. So I said this 377 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:50,960 Speaker 2: to them. I'm saying, like, do y'all wrap? They said 378 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:58,080 Speaker 2: rap like we don't want that. And at that point 379 00:19:58,119 --> 00:20:02,600 Speaker 2: that's when I was like, oh, ship, y'all don't even 380 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:09,040 Speaker 2: make music. So then I'm like, so why these girls 381 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:10,639 Speaker 2: giving y'all free ship? 382 00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:14,479 Speaker 5: They're just cool and they that's what he said. He's like, 383 00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:18,679 Speaker 5: which is cool. They love us, like they love y'all. 384 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:22,440 Speaker 8: What now you sound like I hated JD. 385 00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:28,640 Speaker 4: On some stars, Like there's gotta be something like they 386 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:31,919 Speaker 4: just love that twelve years old telling you that. 387 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:36,720 Speaker 2: I'm like, but what's going on? So at that point, 388 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:40,760 Speaker 2: I'm like, Okay, these little bastard day That's how I'm feeling. 389 00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:43,480 Speaker 2: Like this little dude talking to me like he's like 390 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:46,240 Speaker 2: he got all of But by the way, they was fresh. 391 00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 2: They had on new sneakers. They was in the mall 392 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:50,480 Speaker 2: getting sneakers and getting. 393 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:52,400 Speaker 3: Free ship close on the right way at that time, 394 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:53,480 Speaker 3: close on the right way. 395 00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:56,879 Speaker 2: They was fly. They was fly kids. They had boxes. 396 00:20:57,200 --> 00:21:00,880 Speaker 2: They ship was cut and I was just like. 397 00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:03,320 Speaker 7: Back then that would appeal to the young girls that 398 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:05,640 Speaker 7: work in the mall, like oh they some cute little boys. 399 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:08,680 Speaker 5: N you really don't understand what I'm saying. 400 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:10,160 Speaker 2: It was like you you would have saw this ship, 401 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:14,800 Speaker 2: it would be bugging like you gotta show you. 402 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:17,760 Speaker 4: Got a cameras, just walk through them all, no one stopping, nobody, 403 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:20,639 Speaker 4: not one person. 404 00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:25,000 Speaker 7: Okay, if you've seen two little boys and they don't 405 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:26,280 Speaker 7: do nothing, you've. 406 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:31,399 Speaker 2: Never seen them nowhere, and you would be like you 407 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:35,600 Speaker 2: seen me, and they'd be like screaming. I'm not saying 408 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:39,720 Speaker 2: like they was freaking out, and I'm like, what's going on? 409 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:42,720 Speaker 2: And then Chris was like, yeah, we come here every week, 410 00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:45,520 Speaker 2: this this our hood, just where we're at. They know us, 411 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:50,600 Speaker 2: and I'm just like what m hm. And at that 412 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:56,040 Speaker 2: point I froze in my mind just start going. I'm like, Yo, 413 00:21:56,640 --> 00:22:00,320 Speaker 2: if I find a song for these kids and these 414 00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:02,399 Speaker 2: girls are acting like this already, They're gonna be the 415 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:04,800 Speaker 2: biggest shit in the world. I said this in the mall. 416 00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:08,480 Speaker 2: I couldn't find a song, but I said in the mall, 417 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:14,920 Speaker 2: So then I you know, I'm like, well, y'all should 418 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 2: give me y'all number, and they was like for what. 419 00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:19,680 Speaker 2: That's when they was looking at me, like yore going 420 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:23,879 Speaker 2: what you want my number for? Right, I'm like, I 421 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:27,320 Speaker 2: want to make some records with y'all. Mind you, I 422 00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:30,520 Speaker 2: don't have no records. I mean sometimes leathers whatever, but 423 00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:38,240 Speaker 2: I never made no I never made a male rap 424 00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:42,040 Speaker 2: record besides me, right, so I don't actually even know 425 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 2: what I'm talking about when I'm telling them I've been 426 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:50,000 Speaker 2: making songs for girls, right, writing female lyrics, and they 427 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:52,120 Speaker 2: eleven and twelve, So I just still I don't even 428 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:53,720 Speaker 2: know that life no more? 429 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:59,240 Speaker 3: Right, I just want I just like cookie whatever, three cookies. 430 00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:03,840 Speaker 2: I So I get the numbers and I'm like, we 431 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:07,200 Speaker 2: just start hanging out and they start, they start coming 432 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:12,159 Speaker 2: to my house and at first, you know, I couldn't 433 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:16,800 Speaker 2: figure out how I was gonna get them to rap. 434 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:18,840 Speaker 5: And then it hit me. 435 00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:27,320 Speaker 2: One day we was in the car and we was 436 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:32,280 Speaker 2: playing I think it was playing ice Cube America's Most 437 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:36,840 Speaker 2: Wanted Album, and they knew all the lyrics. And then 438 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:38,919 Speaker 2: without me asking, I was playing, I was and they 439 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:41,199 Speaker 2: knew all lyrics and I was looking in the review 440 00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:42,880 Speaker 2: and I could see them back then in the back 441 00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:43,560 Speaker 2: seat like. 442 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:48,640 Speaker 5: Her pay back, some motherfucker making like I got. 443 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:54,480 Speaker 2: I'm like, they act like rappers. They know the lyrics. 444 00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:57,960 Speaker 2: So that's why I'm starting. I'm talking to myself like, 445 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:00,200 Speaker 2: if I write a song. 446 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:05,359 Speaker 5: On that they like they delivered, they rap it like 447 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:07,200 Speaker 5: they're doing ice Cube. 448 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:09,200 Speaker 2: Ship might work. 449 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:13,560 Speaker 5: But I'm like, JD, you ain't ice Cube. 450 00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 3: Though at the same time his name, so. 451 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:21,040 Speaker 2: But you know, I'm saying that that's the part that 452 00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:24,720 Speaker 2: I tried I left out. I'm like, wow, ice Cube. 453 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 3: Very few people are to this. 454 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:31,600 Speaker 2: Day, you know what I mean. So, uh, I should 455 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:35,720 Speaker 2: have thought about that part, because that part did. It 456 00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:38,399 Speaker 2: took a long time for them to get to like 457 00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:39,359 Speaker 2: what I was writing. 458 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:41,120 Speaker 3: But that's why overthink. 459 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:43,720 Speaker 4: If you really overthought it and thought I'm not ice 460 00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:44,920 Speaker 4: Cube would have got there. 461 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:46,560 Speaker 2: Well, I mean you had. I had to come up. 462 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:50,080 Speaker 2: I had to say that podcast. They were the first song. 463 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:53,840 Speaker 2: They was like mm hmm, what is this right? 464 00:24:54,280 --> 00:25:00,720 Speaker 5: Literally, and it's. 465 00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:02,240 Speaker 2: So a wild because I have so much stuff that's 466 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:05,280 Speaker 2: going on at the time that I'm telling y'all this story. 467 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:12,400 Speaker 2: This is I think in the same week that Chris 468 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:14,480 Speaker 2: and Chris come to my house and we start making 469 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:17,560 Speaker 2: records actually start and I start figuring out how I'm 470 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:23,000 Speaker 2: gonna do this. This guy named Ian Bert that's from 471 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:26,080 Speaker 2: Atlanta comes to my house and he says, y'all, I 472 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:28,639 Speaker 2: got this girl I want you to meet. She just 473 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:33,040 Speaker 2: came from out of town. She talented. I think she 474 00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:35,640 Speaker 2: I think she is star. We need to do something 475 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:36,760 Speaker 2: with her. Now. 476 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:39,200 Speaker 5: Once again my house. 477 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:43,480 Speaker 2: It's just like I got equipment, but I ain't really 478 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:47,600 Speaker 2: got no outlet. I don't know why ian brought this 479 00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:49,919 Speaker 2: girl to my house, but he did. And I mean, 480 00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:53,760 Speaker 2: I guess, you know, whatever the universe brought him over there. 481 00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:56,600 Speaker 5: The girl was left Eye. The Left Eye comes to 482 00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:57,400 Speaker 5: my house. 483 00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:03,399 Speaker 2: And she ends up she's from fresh from Philly, s 484 00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:06,920 Speaker 2: nowhere to station. She ends up staying in my closet 485 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:13,359 Speaker 2: basically at my house. So basically all of this is 486 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:15,679 Speaker 2: going on in my bedroom. I got Chris and Chris 487 00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:18,280 Speaker 2: my room. I got this girl in the closet, they 488 00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:21,520 Speaker 2: left Eye, Me and Ian talking all this in my bedroom. 489 00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:24,280 Speaker 2: My mother doors closed. My mom don't know what's going on. 490 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:30,600 Speaker 2: So when I meet Left Eye and I see what's 491 00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:34,080 Speaker 2: going on with her, I start trying to like make 492 00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:39,000 Speaker 2: everybody work. So I got this crazy idea. I'm like, 493 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:43,000 Speaker 2: I'm a sample Michael Jackson and Paul McCartney, and I'm 494 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:45,880 Speaker 2: gonna make the girl is mine and you and Chris 495 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:48,280 Speaker 2: gonna argue over left Eye. 496 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:53,440 Speaker 3: I could hear Left Eye cursing both of them right now. 497 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:57,880 Speaker 2: It was this is I tried it. It was. It's 498 00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:01,800 Speaker 2: crazy because, like I said, the idea of samples and 499 00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:04,320 Speaker 2: the way I was trying to do things, this was. 500 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:12,120 Speaker 2: This was. This was ten years ten years before Kanye, 501 00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:18,000 Speaker 2: This was ten years before just Blaze. When I'm what 502 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:22,760 Speaker 2: I'm talking about, I'm literally saying this and I tried it. 503 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:27,199 Speaker 2: I was trying it. I just I didn't know it 504 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:29,560 Speaker 2: wasn't right, but I knew that's what I wanted to do. 505 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:30,480 Speaker 6: I was. 506 00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:34,120 Speaker 2: I knew it was that was supposed to happen, right, 507 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:36,680 Speaker 2: and I had, you know, I sampled the Girl is 508 00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:40,560 Speaker 2: Mine and I had it, but the song was just 509 00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:46,840 Speaker 2: so like super cheesy song for a rap record. But 510 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:50,439 Speaker 2: the idea was there, but they ain't love the idea. 511 00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:52,959 Speaker 2: Chris Chris was just like they did it, but it 512 00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:55,240 Speaker 2: was just like whatever, right, And that was like the 513 00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:58,200 Speaker 2: beginning of let's trying to get into it. 514 00:27:58,680 --> 00:27:59,360 Speaker 5: And then. 515 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:07,560 Speaker 2: I wrote some more records for them, and I started realizing, like, okay, 516 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:10,480 Speaker 2: once again, back to the ice cube, things like I 517 00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:13,000 Speaker 2: gotta make records that these kids actually. 518 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:15,640 Speaker 5: That feel like it's them. 519 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:19,880 Speaker 2: And I think that's where I started getting my writing 520 00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:26,480 Speaker 2: chops really really together, because I start understanding that when 521 00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:30,720 Speaker 2: you write music, you gotta write for the person. The 522 00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:37,640 Speaker 2: person has to feel like it's them. And I woke 523 00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:41,720 Speaker 2: up one morning I was like, okay, because like I said, 524 00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:44,800 Speaker 2: I wasn't. I was. I was hip hop, super hip hop, 525 00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:47,480 Speaker 2: no guy on, no music, I don't no keyboards, none 526 00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:51,200 Speaker 2: of that I'm sampling. I'm just trying to sample. So 527 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:57,560 Speaker 2: I had turntables and I had and I kept thinking 528 00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:00,760 Speaker 2: about ice Cube. I'm thinking about ice Cube. I'm saying like, Okay, 529 00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:02,080 Speaker 2: I gotta make these kids a. 530 00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:09,440 Speaker 5: Record like ice Cube. So then I took easy Boys 531 00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:12,440 Speaker 5: in the Hood. And then. 532 00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:18,040 Speaker 2: Ice Cube had this song on his album, well go 533 00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:21,280 Speaker 2: little Boys and Girls they all love Me, Come sit 534 00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:22,840 Speaker 2: on the Lap. He had that. 535 00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:27,120 Speaker 5: So I took the Little Boys and then I. 536 00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:30,640 Speaker 2: Put Boys in the Hood from Easy, and I was 537 00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:34,040 Speaker 2: doing that on the turntables, So there was like little 538 00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:37,080 Speaker 2: Boys in the Hood, Little Boys in the Hood, and 539 00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:40,080 Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, wouldn't go over well on this is 540 00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:42,760 Speaker 2: a song Little Boys in the Hood. 541 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:46,240 Speaker 5: And then I start thinking about what I can write about. 542 00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:48,840 Speaker 2: So now I start asking them questions about what they 543 00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:52,720 Speaker 2: see and what's going on. And I start thinking about 544 00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:56,800 Speaker 2: the movie Boys in the Hood with the kids like 545 00:29:56,800 --> 00:30:00,000 Speaker 2: you want to see a Dead Body, and how those 546 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,360 Speaker 2: those kids actually was the ones that were singing all 547 00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:05,200 Speaker 2: the murder shit before everybody else, right, So I started 548 00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:09,440 Speaker 2: thinking about how Little Boys in the Hood actually. 549 00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:12,719 Speaker 5: Their vision of what's going on in the hood. You 550 00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:15,000 Speaker 5: never actually hear that perspective, right. 551 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:21,160 Speaker 2: So I wrote that song that was a song, so 552 00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:23,280 Speaker 2: I start going off that. I'm like, I'm going with this, 553 00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:26,640 Speaker 2: and when they heard it, I seen their eyes light up. 554 00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:27,880 Speaker 5: Like yeah, that's us. 555 00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:31,040 Speaker 2: You said something, that's what we want to talk about. 556 00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:34,920 Speaker 2: And I'm like, oh okay. So at that point I 557 00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:37,720 Speaker 2: knew they was gonna rap it way better, and they did. 558 00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:40,720 Speaker 2: They rapped the lyrics better than they did the other songs. 559 00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:43,479 Speaker 2: They sounded like they really wanted to do this. They 560 00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:45,840 Speaker 2: was acting like rappers and. 561 00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:47,760 Speaker 6: That song. 562 00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:50,840 Speaker 2: I thought that song was gonna be there smash little 563 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:54,480 Speaker 2: boys in the hood. So I finished that demo and 564 00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:58,760 Speaker 2: I sent the demo out to rough House and they 565 00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:01,239 Speaker 2: called back like, yeah, we want to signed them, and 566 00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:02,600 Speaker 2: I was like, oh shit. 567 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:05,400 Speaker 4: And at this point, there isn't like the kid rapper 568 00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:06,760 Speaker 4: hasn't existed yet at all. 569 00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:12,000 Speaker 3: Yeah I mean me, yeah, well yeah that. 570 00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:14,480 Speaker 2: Nobody, Me and Chad. 571 00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:17,800 Speaker 5: But yeah, that's just that was the beginning that I think, 572 00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:18,920 Speaker 5: like ninety. 573 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:21,840 Speaker 4: One, I just want to quickly interrupt because you're just 574 00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:24,200 Speaker 4: saying left Eye was living in your career. 575 00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:25,440 Speaker 3: It's just crazy. 576 00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:26,080 Speaker 2: It was crazy. 577 00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:29,440 Speaker 4: So where is left Eye at this point? Because of course, 578 00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:31,840 Speaker 4: your focus is criss cross. But what is left Eye 579 00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:35,240 Speaker 4: doing at this time? Who is Reco around at this time? 580 00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:36,640 Speaker 4: Is t bos around at this time? 581 00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:40,960 Speaker 2: What is nah so so left? I was still part left. 582 00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:46,560 Speaker 2: I was really like pro pre social death, right because 583 00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:49,280 Speaker 2: none of that. I mean, you know, my mixtapes was 584 00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:51,360 Speaker 2: caused by the way I was DJing mixtapes. 585 00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:52,480 Speaker 5: I would sell mixtapes in. 586 00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:55,960 Speaker 2: School, but I wasn't like DJing clubs or whatever. But 587 00:31:56,000 --> 00:32:01,560 Speaker 2: my mixtapes was called social death mixtapes. And you know, 588 00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:03,480 Speaker 2: Left Eye, she was down. She was at the house. 589 00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:10,640 Speaker 2: She was actually really like instrumental in helping me figure 590 00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:15,760 Speaker 2: out the backwards jeans and getting the clothing right because 591 00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:18,280 Speaker 2: we used to just try crazy shit all the time 592 00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:22,520 Speaker 2: and be around each other. So really she was She 593 00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:25,160 Speaker 2: was not a part of what was going on with 594 00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:27,480 Speaker 2: Chris Graus, but she was just a support you know, 595 00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:29,920 Speaker 2: part of the support team, and she just was around 596 00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:31,680 Speaker 2: we was figuring out blah blah blah. 597 00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:32,640 Speaker 6: Then he. 598 00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:42,920 Speaker 2: Met another girl named Crystal, and he found Tea Bars. 599 00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:45,800 Speaker 2: I don't know how he did this, and then he 600 00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:52,200 Speaker 2: thought about putting these girls together and the first group 601 00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:56,240 Speaker 2: TL she was called second Nature, and it was basically 602 00:32:56,280 --> 00:33:03,560 Speaker 2: my group, and once he got T Buys, I did 603 00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:04,440 Speaker 2: a demo on. 604 00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:09,480 Speaker 5: I did a demo on them on T Bys and 605 00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:11,160 Speaker 5: Left Eye basically at my house. 606 00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:17,360 Speaker 2: And I'm trying to get their demo but also knowing 607 00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:18,800 Speaker 2: that Chrisscruss thing is moving. 608 00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:24,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, and I'm six seventeen at this point, right, and 609 00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:27,720 Speaker 5: how old are they who Chris and Chris is eleven 610 00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:28,600 Speaker 5: and twelve. 611 00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:31,240 Speaker 3: And Ts and Leftot that's around. 612 00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:32,880 Speaker 5: Rightly seventeen eighteen years old? 613 00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:33,720 Speaker 2: Right? 614 00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:35,960 Speaker 7: When jump drops and I told you last time, I 615 00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:38,440 Speaker 7: would say, I said that to me, is probably low 616 00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:39,959 Speaker 7: key the greatest disc record ever. 617 00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:40,360 Speaker 6: It was. 618 00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:43,720 Speaker 2: It's interesting because it was it was the Eminem type 619 00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:48,160 Speaker 2: disc record, in which I don't believe people really look 620 00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:49,120 Speaker 2: at Eminem records. 621 00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:51,120 Speaker 5: It's diss records. Right when you talk about. 622 00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:55,360 Speaker 2: Greatest disc songs, I never hear people talk about Eminem dissoning, 623 00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:58,960 Speaker 2: sinking Britney Spears. Yeah right. I feel like that's what 624 00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:01,840 Speaker 2: the Cris Cross thing was. Because ABC was looked at 625 00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:04,560 Speaker 2: as an R and B group and they want rappers. 626 00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:07,959 Speaker 5: It looked like, oh, you rapper boys is trying to 627 00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:12,400 Speaker 5: just pick won't you all go a dozz effects? 628 00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:13,919 Speaker 2: Wow? 629 00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:15,640 Speaker 3: But where was that? Where did that come from? 630 00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:15,799 Speaker 2: Though? 631 00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:15,880 Speaker 4: Like? 632 00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:18,440 Speaker 8: Why did? Why did? Why was those lyrics in that record? 633 00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:22,160 Speaker 5: That's just that's what I felt like needed to happen. 634 00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:23,960 Speaker 8: I just wanted to go ABC. 635 00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:24,919 Speaker 5: Well. 636 00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:27,600 Speaker 2: I just felt like I wanted to make sure that 637 00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:31,240 Speaker 2: Chris and Chris was established as rappers and I didn't 638 00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:33,640 Speaker 2: want them to come off like like I said, I 639 00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:38,440 Speaker 2: felt like, especially me at this time, I was, you know, 640 00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:41,560 Speaker 2: no shoe strings in my I was walking around here 641 00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:46,839 Speaker 2: like super duper b boy like, so all I could 642 00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:50,520 Speaker 2: think about was like, we're gonna dis somebody, somebody getting 643 00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:54,680 Speaker 2: ready to get it right. I don't know, you know, 644 00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:55,440 Speaker 2: that's what it was. 645 00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:57,759 Speaker 5: I was, you know, and it was like it just 646 00:34:57,800 --> 00:34:59,919 Speaker 5: felt like the thing to do. I don't know why. 647 00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:01,680 Speaker 7: So they just caught it straight just because you just 648 00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:02,880 Speaker 7: felt like somebody gotta get it. 649 00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:05,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, and you know, like I said, I 650 00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:09,680 Speaker 2: felt like it was an era where these two artists 651 00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:13,120 Speaker 2: was like young, so it was gonna be something that 652 00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:15,040 Speaker 2: you really paid attention to. I just was trying to 653 00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:17,560 Speaker 2: find a you know thing. It wasn't really like, it 654 00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:18,560 Speaker 2: wasn't no real beef. 655 00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:22,280 Speaker 3: It wasn't no real beef. 656 00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:26,160 Speaker 5: It was just like a let's set this tone. 657 00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:29,160 Speaker 2: Let's make sure that people know the difference between you 658 00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:33,000 Speaker 2: and them, and the only the way to do that 659 00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:35,959 Speaker 2: is to act like rappers, you know what I'm saying. 660 00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:38,120 Speaker 2: And by the way, all I was listening to was 661 00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:40,640 Speaker 2: God damn, I'm glad y'all set it up. It used 662 00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:44,799 Speaker 2: to be That's all I was listening to, like every day. 663 00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:48,879 Speaker 2: Like I think Jack and Foe Beast came out right 664 00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:51,680 Speaker 2: before I made Jump. You know what I'm saying. I'm 665 00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:55,959 Speaker 2: like Ice Cuban of Lynch My I'm like, oh my god, 666 00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:59,520 Speaker 2: we gotta make some shit like this. So I probably me. 667 00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:03,400 Speaker 5: I was just like this world, cue everybody. 668 00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:05,600 Speaker 4: So then Jump, being the last record you wrote for 669 00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:09,960 Speaker 4: Criss Cross, how do we transition into more of the 670 00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:11,280 Speaker 4: j D as. 671 00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:15,000 Speaker 3: An artist label owners so so deaf? How does that 672 00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:18,560 Speaker 3: that transfer? You gotta take your take. 673 00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:21,840 Speaker 8: Let's just usher, don't worry about it. 674 00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:26,000 Speaker 2: Where are you at, I'm in the studio. 675 00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:28,680 Speaker 6: Where are you at? 676 00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:29,840 Speaker 2: I'm in the studio. 677 00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:32,320 Speaker 6: I'm coming to you right now. 678 00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:35,799 Speaker 2: I'm doing podcast Get a fourth mic and they can 679 00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:36,200 Speaker 2: hear you. 680 00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:41,839 Speaker 6: What podcasts? Who are you doing? Fucked up? My ship? 681 00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:44,359 Speaker 3: Nigga, get the fourth mic. 682 00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:49,560 Speaker 9: I want to talk my ship the podcast. I was 683 00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:53,800 Speaker 9: having a bad day. My baby mother called me this 684 00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:55,359 Speaker 9: morning ship. 685 00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:59,120 Speaker 3: Oh never, man, I take it back, man, fuck that. 686 00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:01,560 Speaker 6: I'm going up that It is me. I'm going up 687 00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:05,120 Speaker 6: on the car. Make that sop to night, laying boat 688 00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:06,799 Speaker 6: trucks off to night. They don't come it up. 689 00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:09,120 Speaker 8: That's what happened, baby. 690 00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:12,440 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, we're. 691 00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:12,279 Speaker 6: Throwing an out. 692 00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:15,240 Speaker 2: Okay, I'm doing. 693 00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:17,160 Speaker 6: Nigga. 694 00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:22,320 Speaker 2: All right, all right, bye bye, No, hang up, daddy, 695 00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:26,279 Speaker 2: you just said you was on the wed Come and 696 00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:29,320 Speaker 2: come on the podcast. Don't worry about come on. You 697 00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:33,640 Speaker 2: will see what you give me, see what is Come on, 698 00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:38,359 Speaker 2: I'm in the corn dog you're gonna be You're gonna 699 00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:43,120 Speaker 2: You're gonna be on the You're gonna be on the podcast. 700 00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:43,680 Speaker 2: They hear you. 701 00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:46,680 Speaker 6: Well, I want to know who's a way beat up? 702 00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:48,440 Speaker 5: Were you with beat up? 703 00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:52,320 Speaker 6: You know? 704 00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:52,719 Speaker 2: Yeah? 705 00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:54,919 Speaker 5: Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah. 706 00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:57,319 Speaker 4: Okay, No, I don't like the tone of that. Yeah yeah, yeah, 707 00:37:57,360 --> 00:37:59,840 Speaker 4: yeah yeah, I don't like that. 708 00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:04,520 Speaker 9: Listen, it's only going if I join the motherfucking interview. 709 00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:07,719 Speaker 9: And I'm going in right now. You look, you're the 710 00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:09,759 Speaker 9: group that you know what them dealing with. 711 00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:11,960 Speaker 2: I'm doing that. 712 00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:19,160 Speaker 6: Man, dollar cap? 713 00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:26,479 Speaker 2: Can this be the trailer? Hell, yo, yo, I'm gonna 714 00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:30,080 Speaker 2: call you yo yo, if you come and come on, man, 715 00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:34,040 Speaker 2: I got to finish, ma'am. Tell me if you you cap, 716 00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:39,320 Speaker 2: you cap, that's what you're doing, you capping? You capping? 717 00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:42,440 Speaker 2: Well you better hurry up, man, got look look listen, 718 00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:47,359 Speaker 2: look look man, it's a whole, a whole cruel people here, 719 00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:50,799 Speaker 2: they gotta put Are you coming to do that? 720 00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:52,200 Speaker 8: He's more than welcome to come. 721 00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:54,399 Speaker 6: Where you been? 722 00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:03,320 Speaker 8: Oh my god, man, yeah, yeah. 723 00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:17,160 Speaker 2: Bye man, bye bye, all right bye, I'm overlooking the city. 724 00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:18,120 Speaker 6: Take me up. 725 00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:24,719 Speaker 4: Trying to you all right, bye bye man, bye man, 726 00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:29,280 Speaker 4: come on bye, all right, keep wrong, by the way, 727 00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:31,680 Speaker 4: we're not going to pretend like that didn't happen, and 728 00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:34,000 Speaker 4: then we're gonna be like, so tell us about criss cross. No, 729 00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:38,200 Speaker 4: all right, we'll continue with it, but we still rolling. Okay, geez, 730 00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:40,040 Speaker 4: how do we get to that guy? 731 00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:42,840 Speaker 3: How did that happen? Oh? 732 00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:43,399 Speaker 6: My god? 733 00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:46,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's my life is like every day. 734 00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:47,000 Speaker 2: All right. 735 00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:49,400 Speaker 4: You feel like you're a parent all the time because 736 00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:52,640 Speaker 4: you've worked with so many younger artists. 737 00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:56,360 Speaker 2: Not just young artists, adults. Next car might be I 738 00:39:56,480 --> 00:40:02,520 Speaker 2: should saying something crazy. It's like everybody, Daniel, it's everybody. 739 00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:04,880 Speaker 3: We feel like we're Daniel's father too. We feel like 740 00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:05,799 Speaker 3: we're Daniel's father too. 741 00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:06,400 Speaker 8: We got. 742 00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:12,200 Speaker 2: You know, everybody. It's like all my artists, I'm some 743 00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:15,920 Speaker 2: type of that person with them. Like tonight, Escape has 744 00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:23,439 Speaker 2: a concert and Candy and Tiny have COVID they sold 745 00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:26,400 Speaker 2: twenty thousand tickets. Dawn tell nobody that they can't make it. 746 00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:27,680 Speaker 8: Oh my shit. 747 00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:33,200 Speaker 2: So Tasha and Tamika, the sisters are on my phone, like, yo, 748 00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:35,160 Speaker 2: can you come perform with us? 749 00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:37,600 Speaker 3: We said, Amarus the feelings, you know, all the Escape res. 750 00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:42,600 Speaker 2: I can't. I just was getting over a little sickness. 751 00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:43,640 Speaker 2: I'm trying to you know what I mean. 752 00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:45,480 Speaker 5: But yeah, that's that's that's my. 753 00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:50,040 Speaker 4: That is actually an interesting transition to what we were 754 00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:52,840 Speaker 4: really asking of getting from doing the crisscross thing to 755 00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:55,600 Speaker 4: now I now. Now I know I could be the 756 00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:58,080 Speaker 4: label owner, not just the producer. And I really want 757 00:40:58,080 --> 00:40:59,839 Speaker 4: to sign acts like I'm not gonna let Ta Boys 758 00:40:59,880 --> 00:41:01,040 Speaker 4: and left I get away anymore. 759 00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:03,279 Speaker 3: I get I see the game successfully. 760 00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:05,799 Speaker 2: No no, no, no no no. I never cared about it. 761 00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:07,799 Speaker 2: I mean, you know, I never cared. I never cared 762 00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:17,040 Speaker 2: about no artists that get away from no listen man, okay, 763 00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:21,279 Speaker 2: oh maybe it is. Wait a minute. His FaceTime to me. 764 00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:26,279 Speaker 6: Opened up. 765 00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:33,760 Speaker 2: Nig all right, man, hold on, they different. 766 00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:35,800 Speaker 8: Yeah, he turned. 767 00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:39,360 Speaker 4: Take your time, man, keep everything wrong, y'all got a 768 00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:39,919 Speaker 4: third mic. 769 00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:45,280 Speaker 3: Keep everything rolling, every everything everything rolling. 770 00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:48,959 Speaker 8: Put this funny. 771 00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:51,160 Speaker 5: We're gonna break the internet. 772 00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:51,920 Speaker 3: I'm ready. 773 00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:53,279 Speaker 5: I don't want to be said. 774 00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:54,640 Speaker 6: They took me right now. 775 00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:58,279 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, well up right, we have not stopped rowing 776 00:41:58,520 --> 00:41:59,160 Speaker 3: censor ship. 777 00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:02,520 Speaker 5: Don't stop, bro, not an interview started. Now that I'm here, nigga, 778 00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:03,520 Speaker 5: niggas know what time it is. 779 00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:04,399 Speaker 2: Take my shoes off. 780 00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:07,399 Speaker 5: I'm here. Yeah, me too. I got my shoes off yours. 781 00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:08,160 Speaker 5: I'm gonna keep it. 782 00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:12,000 Speaker 10: But listen, it's what we nothing but a bunch of laughing. 783 00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:14,600 Speaker 10: The monojis, a bunch of real ship, a bunch of 784 00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:18,560 Speaker 10: real talk. All that now, all that ship, that corporate 785 00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:20,480 Speaker 10: ship that he been kicking, all that we don't know, 786 00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:21,319 Speaker 10: all that type of time. 787 00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:25,200 Speaker 5: I'm fresh off tour. The only nigga who you. 788 00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:25,879 Speaker 6: Know check the facts. 789 00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:29,080 Speaker 5: One gotta drop no fucking single to put twenty thousand. 790 00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:31,000 Speaker 3: Asses in no seats nigga me talk that talk. 791 00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:31,920 Speaker 6: Ain't nobody do that? 792 00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:35,279 Speaker 3: I like me kiss the Red Hot should be who else? 793 00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:39,840 Speaker 5: Who else? Rock groups? Nigga and I don't do rock music. 794 00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:40,279 Speaker 2: You know that? 795 00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:44,320 Speaker 3: Oh he man kissed? I was thinking, Jada, No. 796 00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:46,520 Speaker 5: That's a big hum. I'm suposed to kis kss. 797 00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:50,160 Speaker 10: You know the ro legs talk all that shitout. 798 00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:53,040 Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying. That's the honey. I'm talking 799 00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:55,600 Speaker 5: abou kiss niggas that paint blow up. 800 00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:57,080 Speaker 8: Very well, you know what I mean verywhere. 801 00:42:57,440 --> 00:43:00,239 Speaker 10: Yeah, we're gonna ask any why you know, want to 802 00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:02,000 Speaker 10: work with two. He's scared to do it. 803 00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:04,000 Speaker 5: He might not be legendary enough to pull it off. 804 00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:06,440 Speaker 8: JD might not be leged enough. 805 00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:08,799 Speaker 3: He need a bigger koon. 806 00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:12,759 Speaker 5: Am I bigger than Jermaine? You? Absolutely? 807 00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:14,200 Speaker 8: Are you bigger than Jamaine? 808 00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:16,120 Speaker 2: Absolutely in what capacity? 809 00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:18,560 Speaker 5: All capacity as an artist at Jermaine and walking them 810 00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:19,600 Speaker 5: all with me together? 811 00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:22,759 Speaker 3: Artists popularity, your popularity for sure. 812 00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:29,640 Speaker 1: But music, I'm not gonna tell you. 813 00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:33,680 Speaker 5: I ain't gonna test that on the visits. But you know, 814 00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:35,200 Speaker 5: Snoop found me though, you know what I. 815 00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:37,439 Speaker 10: Mean, I was, I was ready, you know what I mean? 816 00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:39,760 Speaker 10: Like j kind of got it easy. 817 00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:40,680 Speaker 8: He got it easy. 818 00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:41,279 Speaker 5: Absolutely. 819 00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:43,239 Speaker 10: That's like a nigga bringing me a castle roll in 820 00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:46,120 Speaker 10: his made already and I saying, here you go eat like. 821 00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:48,319 Speaker 5: I came to him already. He'll tell you I came ready. 822 00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:50,600 Speaker 8: This wasn't just the perfect time. Was we was just 823 00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:51,280 Speaker 8: getting into. 824 00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:54,560 Speaker 5: And we haven't met. Member, I met you up. 825 00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:56,400 Speaker 8: A bunch of times, but it wasn't. It wasn't the 826 00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:58,280 Speaker 8: type environment get. 827 00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:00,799 Speaker 5: Your hair kicking you sit down, don't scared of sitting 828 00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:01,319 Speaker 5: next to your son. 829 00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:03,160 Speaker 10: Nigga, It's okay, we're about to This is gonna be 830 00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:04,799 Speaker 10: the most This is gonna be the biggest interview've done 831 00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:05,920 Speaker 10: in the past two years. 832 00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:10,040 Speaker 3: He said you he said he a bigger eye can. 833 00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:15,120 Speaker 7: To you he's a star, yeah for sure, popularity for sure. 834 00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:18,120 Speaker 8: But he said he's a music No, he just gave you. 835 00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:20,799 Speaker 5: He give you because I say, do what he can do. 836 00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:22,319 Speaker 5: No one I can make beat. 837 00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:24,359 Speaker 8: But that's the genius in it. You could do things work, 838 00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:25,600 Speaker 8: you can do things that you can't. 839 00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:28,400 Speaker 5: It works, right. I'm like, yeah, all that. 840 00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:31,439 Speaker 10: He has a thrasher jersey and that's incredible. I haven't 841 00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:33,719 Speaker 10: seen that since Jermaine had a sweet at Phillips. It's 842 00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:36,360 Speaker 10: stay Farm now. Yeah, are you from Atlanta? 843 00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:36,759 Speaker 8: Yeah? 844 00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:37,920 Speaker 5: What part. 845 00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:40,160 Speaker 8: My nigga? 846 00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:48,240 Speaker 5: You face? It's going everywhere. I'm telling you these clips 847 00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:49,080 Speaker 5: are gonna be crazy. 848 00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:50,760 Speaker 3: Listen, I'm chilling. 849 00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:52,120 Speaker 5: I'm just here. I'm chilling. 850 00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:56,399 Speaker 7: So Jane is perfect cause we was kind of sort 851 00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:57,319 Speaker 7: of getting into the bow. 852 00:44:57,400 --> 00:44:59,640 Speaker 3: Wow, he said. He said he had to wear the 853 00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:01,760 Speaker 3: dog as a demo. Ready handled to you. 854 00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:07,640 Speaker 2: You ain't nothing. It was before we started this. 855 00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:08,920 Speaker 5: Can we get some alcohol? 856 00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:10,120 Speaker 8: He said that. He said, the castle? 857 00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:12,600 Speaker 5: Can we get the castle? 858 00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:15,040 Speaker 10: Can we get some I've been drinking brown you know 859 00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:18,400 Speaker 10: what I'm saying, Get on some water. These are yours 860 00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:21,640 Speaker 10: and my socks are Adidas. The outfit has been sponsible 861 00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:23,960 Speaker 10: by myself, you see, to be in the w right. 862 00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:25,680 Speaker 10: I was going to wear some jewelry, but I know 863 00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:27,279 Speaker 10: you have likes. I didn't want to like fun up. 864 00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:33,439 Speaker 2: All right? 865 00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:36,920 Speaker 5: This is yeah? I love it. 866 00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:39,040 Speaker 8: Yeah that's cute. 867 00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:39,719 Speaker 2: What are you doing? 868 00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:39,920 Speaker 6: Like? 869 00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:42,000 Speaker 10: Because they say you're always supposed to like when you 870 00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:45,360 Speaker 10: talk to people, you know, like you know, you're talking 871 00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:47,680 Speaker 10: to buy the shoes that a man wears, about the 872 00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:51,279 Speaker 10: watch he wears. Oh so people, can't you talked me, well, 873 00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:53,799 Speaker 10: you want that. 874 00:45:58,760 --> 00:45:59,520 Speaker 8: Was the part of yours. 875 00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:02,239 Speaker 4: Can I get through the recollection of both y'all the 876 00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:04,920 Speaker 4: first day y'all, your recollection of it and his recollection 877 00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:05,160 Speaker 4: of it? 878 00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:09,480 Speaker 2: You want this brown just what you want? 879 00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:10,480 Speaker 5: She wants me to like. 880 00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:15,680 Speaker 2: It's so eazy, ship I might Oh my god. Okay, So, 881 00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:18,560 Speaker 2: so I'm comes to Atlanta. 882 00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:21,920 Speaker 10: We'll call you back. I'm in the interview with Jermaine. 883 00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:24,400 Speaker 10: We're not coming to Magic, We're going somewhere else tonight. 884 00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:30,520 Speaker 10: Just nothing. I'm okay now, I mean I'm feeling myself. 885 00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:36,960 Speaker 10: Call you back, Bather, we love you, I love it. 886 00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:41,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, his nigga comes over here. My phone started 887 00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:42,919 Speaker 2: going off. 888 00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:48,400 Speaker 5: It's gonna be the best interview of all. Listen. 889 00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:55,840 Speaker 2: This is a premiere for listen. So relax, relax from Ohio, 890 00:46:56,160 --> 00:47:02,960 Speaker 2: right right. So Bow comes to Atlanta. I'm not really 891 00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:06,319 Speaker 2: sure to bow out cares who I am when he 892 00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:10,120 Speaker 2: comes to Atlanta because he was signed to death Row 893 00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:15,160 Speaker 2: and you know, you know, everything outside of death Row 894 00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:25,360 Speaker 2: was soft as you know, Cotton. But you know, he comes. 895 00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:29,239 Speaker 2: He comes on a night when it probably couldn't have 896 00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:31,239 Speaker 2: been a better night for him to come to Atlanta. Right, 897 00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:39,560 Speaker 2: So I picked him up in my counting on tea 898 00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:43,600 Speaker 2: and I take him to this club. He's eleven years old. 899 00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:45,360 Speaker 2: He can't get he ain't supposed to be in the club. 900 00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:47,960 Speaker 2: I take him to the club because that same night, 901 00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:52,360 Speaker 2: me and jay Z is performing and we're doing the jam. 902 00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:54,719 Speaker 10: Not to cut you off, but this is the part. 903 00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:56,440 Speaker 10: We have to make sure we insert that footage. 904 00:47:58,000 --> 00:47:58,719 Speaker 8: Yeah, we'll do that. 905 00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:02,480 Speaker 5: Inert the footag. I'm thinking like direct talk, like ship. 906 00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:05,480 Speaker 5: But I don't have came. 907 00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:07,200 Speaker 10: We would have got to insert that because people might 908 00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:08,960 Speaker 10: not believe it. They think it's about our times every 909 00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:09,560 Speaker 10: time we talk. 910 00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:11,800 Speaker 5: To me, man, what's wrong with this nigga? 911 00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:16,440 Speaker 10: Man, I'm just saying we should insert the footage in 912 00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:16,759 Speaker 10: the corner. 913 00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:19,440 Speaker 5: They're gonna saying that we know and insert that. 914 00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:24,200 Speaker 10: Your video is gonna be over your footage of me performing. 915 00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:27,880 Speaker 10: Just let me do the interview. I'm smoking to you, 916 00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:31,080 Speaker 10: tap with you downright. 917 00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:30,600 Speaker 2: So listen. 918 00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:32,560 Speaker 3: So I want your eleven year old recollection. 919 00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:42,160 Speaker 2: So me and jay Z is performing. We do one anything, 920 00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:49,160 Speaker 2: hove do two three songs. But before that, I introduced 921 00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:54,040 Speaker 2: whole to bow and hope like this little guy, you know, 922 00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:57,080 Speaker 2: he looking at him like what do you do? And 923 00:48:57,120 --> 00:49:01,360 Speaker 2: I'm like he raped and and by the way, I 924 00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:05,080 Speaker 2: know I seen bow just like y'all seen him. 925 00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:06,399 Speaker 3: I did not see. 926 00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:08,759 Speaker 2: He didn't he was too young. 927 00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:11,160 Speaker 5: I was produce a credit. We're gonna run footage over that. 928 00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:17,000 Speaker 2: But come on, man, come on, that was eight. How 929 00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:17,600 Speaker 2: old was you? 930 00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:19,560 Speaker 3: I was born in ninety so what year was that? 931 00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:20,160 Speaker 6: Man? 932 00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:20,880 Speaker 5: He doesn't remember this. 933 00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:22,799 Speaker 8: I remember that. I remember that. 934 00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:25,840 Speaker 5: When was this ninety three? 935 00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:27,399 Speaker 2: Three years old? 936 00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:30,239 Speaker 3: I don't remember our sin when I was three like that. 937 00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:31,799 Speaker 3: I watched reruns, but. 938 00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:34,560 Speaker 8: I remember. 939 00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:37,000 Speaker 2: I remember that. So Bow I was on our senio 940 00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:40,440 Speaker 2: before I, you know, before we actually hooked up, and 941 00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:42,319 Speaker 2: I you know, they was telling me about them they 942 00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:44,120 Speaker 2: signed and blah blah blah. So I was like, you 943 00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:46,280 Speaker 2: was sending to Atlanta, let's kick it. He came Atlanta 944 00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:48,560 Speaker 2: that night, me and Jay, like I said, was performing. 945 00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:53,359 Speaker 2: We started performing. And then Jay was like j D no, 946 00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:59,319 Speaker 2: by the way, I think home started performing and bow 947 00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:02,120 Speaker 2: I was sitting on the stage like this, let me perform, 948 00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:04,440 Speaker 2: Let me perform. This is just telling me. He's eleven 949 00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:07,640 Speaker 2: years old. I respect that, let me perform. And I'm like, 950 00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:11,360 Speaker 2: let you perform. I know, you see my crowd, I 951 00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:14,000 Speaker 2: got a whold, this ship is packed, and he like, 952 00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:16,680 Speaker 2: let me perform. I'm like, I never even seen this 953 00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:19,480 Speaker 2: guy performed, So I'm like, I don't know what's gonna 954 00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:23,280 Speaker 2: fucking happen. I'm like, nah, let me perform. 955 00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:24,080 Speaker 5: Let me perform. 956 00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:28,080 Speaker 2: So then so then whole finish, and then I go 957 00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:29,719 Speaker 2: back and I start talking to the crowd, and then 958 00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:32,000 Speaker 2: some kind of way I don't know what made me 959 00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:33,240 Speaker 2: say it, I'm like, yo. 960 00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:35,960 Speaker 5: This little kid on the stage with me right now, 961 00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:36,800 Speaker 5: he want a rap? 962 00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:43,000 Speaker 2: And the crowds like, oh yeah. I'm like, I'm nervous 963 00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:45,399 Speaker 2: as a motherfucker. I'm scared of his head, Like, what's 964 00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:48,799 Speaker 2: what's going to happen? So then I gave a microphone 965 00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:51,239 Speaker 2: and he told the dude, he said, put the beat on. 966 00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:55,359 Speaker 2: Tell the DJ to put the beat on. I'm like, 967 00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:58,600 Speaker 2: oh wait, he told the DJ with the dude, what's 968 00:50:58,600 --> 00:51:03,040 Speaker 2: going on? So he's like really doing it. The DJ 969 00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:06,080 Speaker 2: put the beat on. He started freestyling, the crowd going crazy. 970 00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:07,880 Speaker 2: I don't know what he was saying. 971 00:51:08,239 --> 00:51:08,920 Speaker 3: You remember the rap? 972 00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:11,839 Speaker 5: No, I don't. 973 00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:14,800 Speaker 2: He probably wasn't saying nothing, but I'm. 974 00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:19,520 Speaker 10: Gonna let you going, no, I remember it like you 975 00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:21,200 Speaker 10: just say no, I don't. 976 00:51:21,239 --> 00:51:23,360 Speaker 5: But I remember that day like it was yesterday. 977 00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:25,960 Speaker 10: I remember being at the Hide and Buckhead, which is 978 00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:28,560 Speaker 10: is still there. When I was checking in the hotel, 979 00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:30,560 Speaker 10: Hole was checking in too. I never told this story 980 00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:33,680 Speaker 10: to nobody. Hope was checking into And what's crazy is 981 00:51:33,719 --> 00:51:36,279 Speaker 10: how I knew it was jay Z. I know y'all 982 00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:40,600 Speaker 10: had the record together, but the only memory I had 983 00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:42,680 Speaker 10: of jay Z at that time because being on Death Row, 984 00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:44,840 Speaker 10: I'm I'm West Coast out, but I was always like 985 00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:47,120 Speaker 10: a hip hop baby, so I knew what the fuck 986 00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:51,320 Speaker 10: was going on. When I saw Hole was checking in himself. 987 00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:56,120 Speaker 10: This is when it tells me man sunshine baby. 988 00:51:56,719 --> 00:51:59,719 Speaker 5: Yeah right, That's how I knew. 989 00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:01,800 Speaker 10: I'm like, oh, this guy looks familiar. I'm like, oh, okay, 990 00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:04,320 Speaker 10: I know that song. Jamaine kept me in the hotel 991 00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:07,600 Speaker 10: the whole day. I was in the hotel with my mom. 992 00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:09,160 Speaker 10: I'm like, Yo, where's hey he playing? 993 00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:10,600 Speaker 5: I don't know. 994 00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:14,600 Speaker 10: He pulls up in the Black Billy and I come downstairs. 995 00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:16,480 Speaker 10: I remember asking the first question I have asked you 996 00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:17,319 Speaker 10: that I never forget this. 997 00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:20,759 Speaker 5: I said, what kind of car is this? Should like 998 00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:23,759 Speaker 5: thick rabbit fur in the front. Never seen a car 999 00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:25,040 Speaker 5: with just a B on it. So I'm like with 1000 00:52:25,080 --> 00:52:26,880 Speaker 5: the fund like this is crazy. When I want to 1001 00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:29,359 Speaker 5: his crib, I'm like, oh shit, this. 1002 00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:31,880 Speaker 10: Guy's fucking rich, like you know, he got every car 1003 00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:35,480 Speaker 10: in the back, got fucking dog's pool game room, Like 1004 00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:36,440 Speaker 10: this shit is crazy. 1005 00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:40,640 Speaker 5: And then that night was it a trial? What's the 1006 00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:41,520 Speaker 5: name of the club? 1007 00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:45,279 Speaker 10: Atri right, and everything is saying this fact like I 1008 00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:47,640 Speaker 10: wanted to go, I wanted to perform, I wanted to rap. 1009 00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:49,160 Speaker 10: I wanted to do my shit. It was me, you, 1010 00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:52,600 Speaker 10: jay Z and Bratt. If I'm not mistaken. Bratt was 1011 00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:55,319 Speaker 10: on the stage with us that night and I was like, Yo, 1012 00:52:55,360 --> 00:52:56,920 Speaker 10: I want to rap. I want to wrap fuck that, 1013 00:52:57,360 --> 00:53:00,319 Speaker 10: I want to rap, and you know, I. 1014 00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:03,600 Speaker 4: Mean we were joking around, but to have that confidence, 1015 00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:04,520 Speaker 4: what did that come from? 1016 00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:05,000 Speaker 5: At eleven? 1017 00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:08,719 Speaker 3: Because you got people that wouldn't have that type of confiden. 1018 00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:10,719 Speaker 5: Because I've been doing it. That was the whole thing. 1019 00:53:10,840 --> 00:53:11,480 Speaker 5: We get a cup, I. 1020 00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:13,720 Speaker 3: Can't ask on Jay yet car and it's the verbal 1021 00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:15,240 Speaker 3: Virgil rest in peace. 1022 00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:17,560 Speaker 10: Rug absolutely so for me it was like, yeah, man, 1023 00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:23,840 Speaker 10: what I'm sorry, Virgil rest I'm sorry, Virgil, but Virgil 1024 00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:25,600 Speaker 10: made it. You can't take credit for somebody who did 1025 00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:28,040 Speaker 10: the carpet. You bought the carpet on no matter fact 1026 00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:31,040 Speaker 10: he sent you the carpet. No, even car is a 1027 00:53:31,120 --> 00:53:37,759 Speaker 10: rug virgin when you when you when you're like a 1028 00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:41,440 Speaker 10: weed smoking with ash anywhere. Oh hell no, get him 1029 00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:44,399 Speaker 10: a couple of we'll talk to me while let's keep 1030 00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:44,719 Speaker 10: it wrong. 1031 00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:46,280 Speaker 5: Is gonna be the best. 1032 00:53:46,520 --> 00:53:47,920 Speaker 3: I want to keep this entire thing the way. 1033 00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:49,400 Speaker 5: You know, we're not add ain't nothing. 1034 00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:50,200 Speaker 2: This is beautiful. 1035 00:53:50,560 --> 00:53:51,960 Speaker 5: I love it. I'm not even getting in trouble. This 1036 00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:52,440 Speaker 5: is truful. 1037 00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:53,400 Speaker 8: This is beautiful. 1038 00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:55,960 Speaker 3: You feel like in trouble. We don't matter business. 1039 00:53:58,680 --> 00:53:59,040 Speaker 5: It's good. 1040 00:53:59,200 --> 00:54:01,200 Speaker 3: We know those type dudes. All right, so yeah, you're 1041 00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:03,919 Speaker 3: perform at eleven. Did you have by the way, which 1042 00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:05,920 Speaker 3: is a legendary No, that was that he was. 1043 00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:09,399 Speaker 10: Well, that happened. That wasn't supposed to happen. Okay, thanks, 1044 00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:13,360 Speaker 10: that wasn't supposed to happen. You know, I remember Shug 1045 00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:17,879 Speaker 10: like no, like tall sineo, No, you can't go out there, 1046 00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:21,160 Speaker 10: you know what I'm saying. And then my mom at 1047 00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:25,920 Speaker 10: the time was like, this is this is it? If 1048 00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:27,960 Speaker 10: it ain't gonna happen. And that's always tell people like, 1049 00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:29,799 Speaker 10: if you feel it, if you love this hip hop shit, 1050 00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:31,239 Speaker 10: if you really want to do it, you gotta go 1051 00:54:31,239 --> 00:54:32,920 Speaker 10: for I'm gonna fuck what type of time you own 1052 00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:35,160 Speaker 10: with time, and you gotta go. 1053 00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:36,560 Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying. That was my mom went 1054 00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:36,799 Speaker 5: to go. 1055 00:54:37,080 --> 00:54:39,560 Speaker 10: And you know, I look back at that like damn 1056 00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:43,440 Speaker 10: Like there's nobody from my from my age bracket from 1057 00:54:43,480 --> 00:54:45,919 Speaker 10: the time I came into the game, No job rule, 1058 00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:50,160 Speaker 10: no Nelly. Anybody who came out like in the two 1059 00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:52,040 Speaker 10: thousands and mid two thousands, they never. 1060 00:54:51,960 --> 00:54:52,560 Speaker 5: Did our seneo. 1061 00:54:52,840 --> 00:54:56,680 Speaker 10: No few artists that are still I'm talking ninety three, 1062 00:54:56,800 --> 00:54:58,960 Speaker 10: none of them niggas was rapping them. 1063 00:54:59,040 --> 00:54:59,879 Speaker 5: Niggas wasn't rapping. 1064 00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:01,799 Speaker 3: There's people that came out in ninety three that didn't 1065 00:55:01,800 --> 00:55:03,000 Speaker 3: do wasn't rapping. 1066 00:55:03,719 --> 00:55:05,480 Speaker 10: And if they was, I telling them, y'all niggas wanted 1067 00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:08,360 Speaker 10: rapping when I was rapping, or maybe y'all was, but not. 1068 00:55:08,600 --> 00:55:10,799 Speaker 10: I was like, that was the perfect time for me 1069 00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:12,520 Speaker 10: to go ahead and do my ship and I'm glad 1070 00:55:12,520 --> 00:55:14,840 Speaker 10: that my mom pushed me to do that. That was 1071 00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:17,200 Speaker 10: not as you can see if you wrote the if 1072 00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:18,880 Speaker 10: you rolle the footage back, it happened at the end 1073 00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:20,520 Speaker 10: of the show, but. 1074 00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:21,400 Speaker 5: The credits is rolling. 1075 00:55:21,560 --> 00:55:23,839 Speaker 10: I'm cursing, saying all type of shit that a six 1076 00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:24,799 Speaker 10: shrow shouldn't be saying. 1077 00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:27,920 Speaker 3: But where where does your you connect with death Row 1078 00:55:28,280 --> 00:55:29,000 Speaker 3: in ninety three? 1079 00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:31,760 Speaker 5: Even connect? It happened in my hometown, Columbus, Ohio. 1080 00:55:31,840 --> 00:55:35,919 Speaker 10: So what happened was the Chronic tour came and God 1081 00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:38,000 Speaker 10: rested you know rpd A. J. 1082 00:55:38,160 --> 00:55:38,560 Speaker 5: Johnson. 1083 00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:41,879 Speaker 10: Of course I know him as you know my nigga Friday. Yeah, 1084 00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:43,320 Speaker 10: you know what I'm saying, did this thing or whatever? 1085 00:55:43,360 --> 00:55:46,319 Speaker 10: But Eazel, but he was actually the MC of the 1086 00:55:46,320 --> 00:55:48,280 Speaker 10: whole entire Chronic tour. So when he got on stage, 1087 00:55:48,280 --> 00:55:49,880 Speaker 10: she was like, Yo, anybody want to come on staging? 1088 00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:53,920 Speaker 10: So my mom, of course, you know the kids, you 1089 00:55:53,960 --> 00:55:55,720 Speaker 10: go to cons of the kids always Donna get selected 1090 00:55:55,719 --> 00:55:58,000 Speaker 10: the kids, they cute, whatever picked me. 1091 00:55:58,080 --> 00:55:58,759 Speaker 5: I go on there, I. 1092 00:55:58,680 --> 00:56:01,560 Speaker 10: Start rapping, They throwing money off the stage. Dads comes 1093 00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:04,960 Speaker 10: grass me bring me backstage. And that's how the famous 1094 00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:07,160 Speaker 10: picture of me snoop at like nineteen. 1095 00:56:09,600 --> 00:56:12,200 Speaker 3: Put that right down here, absolutely right. 1096 00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:16,720 Speaker 5: So that happens. 1097 00:56:17,560 --> 00:56:20,080 Speaker 4: You know, you know, we've given his flowers like he 1098 00:56:20,080 --> 00:56:24,080 Speaker 4: pulled up just long, long time, he said. 1099 00:56:25,080 --> 00:56:28,400 Speaker 10: So that's how the legendary picture pop me Snoop and 1100 00:56:28,480 --> 00:56:30,080 Speaker 10: Dre Crazy. 1101 00:56:30,560 --> 00:56:31,840 Speaker 5: I would say like top. 1102 00:56:33,320 --> 00:56:35,439 Speaker 10: Not top five, not top ten, but like definitely top 1103 00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:36,760 Speaker 10: twenty pictures of hip hop picture. 1104 00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:37,560 Speaker 5: That's how I feel. 1105 00:56:37,560 --> 00:56:39,279 Speaker 10: That's a that's a that's a don't know, don't know 1106 00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:42,319 Speaker 10: nigga currently wrapping right now, making noise, making no type 1107 00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:43,800 Speaker 10: of money right now. I got a picture with Snoop 1108 00:56:43,840 --> 00:56:47,560 Speaker 10: at nineteen or eighteen, Dre at twenty one, Me is 1109 00:56:47,680 --> 00:56:48,040 Speaker 10: us three. 1110 00:56:48,080 --> 00:56:48,759 Speaker 5: That's what it was. 1111 00:56:49,640 --> 00:56:51,920 Speaker 10: And from there on it was Okay, we're gonna put 1112 00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:54,000 Speaker 10: him in the audience. They're gonna take him on tour. 1113 00:56:54,239 --> 00:56:55,839 Speaker 10: Every city we go to, we're gonna put We're gonna 1114 00:56:55,880 --> 00:56:56,360 Speaker 10: pick him. 1115 00:56:56,400 --> 00:57:01,239 Speaker 4: Well, Game Gamesac what game photo shopped himself with Tupac. 1116 00:57:01,600 --> 00:57:02,480 Speaker 3: When they was kids. 1117 00:57:03,239 --> 00:57:06,520 Speaker 5: What I tell you. 1118 00:57:08,200 --> 00:57:11,400 Speaker 2: The white boy just act like you're gonna hear with 1119 00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:13,120 Speaker 2: game kids. 1120 00:57:13,160 --> 00:57:15,719 Speaker 3: I was like, how did this happen? It was photoshops? 1121 00:57:15,760 --> 00:57:19,240 Speaker 8: So back to uh, back to uh the J Show. Yeah, 1122 00:57:19,240 --> 00:57:24,160 Speaker 8: when you performed, were you signed to know? At that 1123 00:57:24,200 --> 00:57:25,440 Speaker 8: point you store sign. 1124 00:57:25,360 --> 00:57:28,600 Speaker 10: No, but I knew it was it was official because 1125 00:57:28,600 --> 00:57:30,160 Speaker 10: when I got the call j D. I don't even 1126 00:57:30,160 --> 00:57:33,040 Speaker 10: know if you know this, but I was actually on 1127 00:57:33,080 --> 00:57:35,840 Speaker 10: the football field and my mom when I was when 1128 00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:37,920 Speaker 10: I was on the sidelines, my mom like ran down 1129 00:57:37,960 --> 00:57:39,160 Speaker 10: to the fence section were going to. 1130 00:57:39,120 --> 00:57:42,320 Speaker 5: Atlanta and like two days I'm like, for what with 1131 00:57:42,360 --> 00:57:43,840 Speaker 5: JAMAINI Prie? Who was that? 1132 00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:45,680 Speaker 10: That's why Jamais I don't even think knew who I was. 1133 00:57:45,720 --> 00:57:48,480 Speaker 10: I'm like, what Chris crossed it up? But as I 1134 00:57:48,520 --> 00:57:51,400 Speaker 10: was growing up, you know, I really wasn't a big 1135 00:57:51,440 --> 00:57:54,440 Speaker 10: Crisscross fan growing up because I always was like, man, 1136 00:57:54,440 --> 00:57:56,600 Speaker 10: I'm supposed to be with them niggas is like I'm 1137 00:57:56,600 --> 00:57:58,360 Speaker 10: on the biggest life. I'm supposed to But I was 1138 00:57:58,400 --> 00:58:00,320 Speaker 10: a kid did but that's how I was thinking, you 1139 00:58:00,360 --> 00:58:02,960 Speaker 10: know what I mean. So I looked at everybody back. 1140 00:58:04,240 --> 00:58:04,760 Speaker 6: Yeah bad. 1141 00:58:05,600 --> 00:58:06,760 Speaker 2: Really that's the thing like. 1142 00:58:08,640 --> 00:58:08,840 Speaker 6: Death. 1143 00:58:09,160 --> 00:58:13,000 Speaker 10: Like I'm like, I'm and I'm making music like at 1144 00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:15,000 Speaker 10: the time Corrupt was writing my ship. You know, I'm 1145 00:58:15,040 --> 00:58:17,240 Speaker 10: only like seven years old, so eight years old, you 1146 00:58:17,240 --> 00:58:21,040 Speaker 10: know what I mean. So in my mind, I'm like, 1147 00:58:21,160 --> 00:58:24,000 Speaker 10: I'm supposed to be where they at, Like why why 1148 00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:25,560 Speaker 10: am I just I don't get it, you know what 1149 00:58:25,560 --> 00:58:29,320 Speaker 10: I mean? But it everything fell in line once, you know, 1150 00:58:29,360 --> 00:58:31,360 Speaker 10: the snoop and the death ro thing kind of fell apart. 1151 00:58:31,720 --> 00:58:33,600 Speaker 5: I went back home and then I got the call 1152 00:58:33,640 --> 00:58:35,520 Speaker 5: from Steeve put On. I'm like, yo, we got a 1153 00:58:35,520 --> 00:58:37,200 Speaker 5: situation we should put. 1154 00:58:37,160 --> 00:58:39,320 Speaker 10: In with Jermaine the pre and then once I you know, 1155 00:58:39,360 --> 00:58:42,360 Speaker 10: did my homework, I'm like, damn all right. Then once 1156 00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:45,000 Speaker 10: you able to Biley, okay, showing me some new ship 1157 00:58:45,080 --> 00:58:47,160 Speaker 10: as a big home he supposed to do. Took me 1158 00:58:47,200 --> 00:58:49,680 Speaker 10: to the crib, first big house I ever saw. I'm like, fuck, 1159 00:58:50,200 --> 00:58:55,120 Speaker 10: JD had eleven cars. I'm like, the fuck like dogs, cars, 1160 00:58:55,240 --> 00:58:57,240 Speaker 10: the mansion, the the girls. 1161 00:58:57,280 --> 00:59:02,280 Speaker 5: I'm seeing them go in and out. I'm sorry to legs, 1162 00:59:02,400 --> 00:59:04,800 Speaker 5: I hate that word. This is fast. JD is cool. 1163 00:59:05,320 --> 00:59:05,720 Speaker 5: I'm like. 1164 00:59:07,200 --> 00:59:08,120 Speaker 2: This like it's cool. 1165 00:59:08,200 --> 00:59:10,600 Speaker 10: I'm like, yo, this is like the first like dude 1166 00:59:10,640 --> 00:59:13,760 Speaker 10: who I seen in my life that it's really cool. 1167 00:59:13,840 --> 00:59:16,400 Speaker 10: Like my pops wasn't around like that. So I'm like, yo, 1168 00:59:16,520 --> 00:59:20,200 Speaker 10: damn this niggas like he let any fun and he 1169 00:59:20,320 --> 00:59:22,040 Speaker 10: young like and he'd be doing ship, you know what 1170 00:59:22,040 --> 00:59:23,560 Speaker 10: i mean. First time I ever been on the yacht, 1171 00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:25,800 Speaker 10: j D took me first foot ball ever been to 1172 00:59:25,960 --> 00:59:28,200 Speaker 10: jad took me first piece of jewey ever rocked. 1173 00:59:28,240 --> 00:59:29,720 Speaker 5: That was real. Jad gave it to me. 1174 00:59:29,760 --> 00:59:31,760 Speaker 10: So it was like, that's what a that's a lottle 1175 00:59:31,760 --> 00:59:33,320 Speaker 10: home and that's what you want your big homie to do. 1176 00:59:34,040 --> 00:59:36,320 Speaker 10: And it was it was. It was all enough of that. 1177 00:59:36,400 --> 00:59:38,160 Speaker 10: So even though it was no ink sign, I knew 1178 00:59:38,160 --> 00:59:39,680 Speaker 10: where I wanted to be. He knew where I was going, 1179 00:59:40,320 --> 00:59:42,959 Speaker 10: and it was it was, it was nothing to think. 1180 00:59:42,880 --> 00:59:46,480 Speaker 4: About how we get from the jay Z stage to 1181 00:59:46,600 --> 00:59:49,760 Speaker 4: beare the dog? Where does that transition happen? 1182 00:59:51,320 --> 00:59:51,560 Speaker 6: Wow? 1183 00:59:51,920 --> 00:59:52,200 Speaker 5: It did? 1184 00:59:52,240 --> 00:59:56,240 Speaker 10: I about say, I said, still ship, I still said, 1185 00:59:57,320 --> 00:59:58,240 Speaker 10: it's a long time. 1186 00:59:58,320 --> 00:59:58,680 Speaker 5: It was. 1187 00:59:58,720 --> 01:00:01,000 Speaker 2: It was it was still a process. That's with him too, 1188 01:00:01,040 --> 01:00:06,040 Speaker 2: because like when I got bow out, it was ten 1189 01:00:06,120 --> 01:00:11,360 Speaker 2: years after Crisscross one. I mean, you know, totally ten years, 1190 01:00:12,520 --> 01:00:15,040 Speaker 2: a real ten year stretch. Now I was just looking 1191 01:00:15,040 --> 01:00:18,160 Speaker 2: at like, okay, well it's been ten years, so it's 1192 01:00:18,280 --> 01:00:21,680 Speaker 2: I could do this again. Now it's been long enough 1193 01:00:21,720 --> 01:00:24,320 Speaker 2: where people won't it won't look like that's my thing. 1194 01:00:26,440 --> 01:00:31,120 Speaker 2: Because I was. I kept fighting being the guy who 1195 01:00:31,320 --> 01:00:34,360 Speaker 2: knows how to put out young artists. I don't know why, 1196 01:00:34,440 --> 01:00:35,560 Speaker 2: but you. 1197 01:00:35,600 --> 01:00:36,120 Speaker 3: Know I get it. 1198 01:00:36,160 --> 01:00:41,400 Speaker 2: I was fighting it right and so I gave myself 1199 01:00:41,440 --> 01:00:44,360 Speaker 2: this stretch to be like, Okay, shit, I ain't did 1200 01:00:44,560 --> 01:00:46,600 Speaker 2: I ain't did. Nobody young in ten years, so can't 1201 01:00:46,600 --> 01:00:48,960 Speaker 2: nobody say you've been that's all you do? 1202 01:00:49,080 --> 01:00:49,200 Speaker 6: Right? 1203 01:00:50,000 --> 01:00:51,600 Speaker 5: So then I when I got to bow out. 1204 01:00:51,640 --> 01:00:55,200 Speaker 2: But bow Wow was different than Crisscross because Criscrouss weren't artists. 1205 01:00:55,560 --> 01:00:57,680 Speaker 2: He was already, like you said, he was rapping before 1206 01:00:57,720 --> 01:00:59,960 Speaker 2: he even came to me. He thought his name was 1207 01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:03,160 Speaker 2: kid Gangster like that was his rap name on death Row. 1208 01:01:03,280 --> 01:01:07,880 Speaker 2: So he was already rapping. He was already like around 1209 01:01:07,960 --> 01:01:11,120 Speaker 2: weed smoke, you know, death Row at at the time 1210 01:01:11,120 --> 01:01:14,200 Speaker 2: when he was there, it was it was deaf. It 1211 01:01:14,240 --> 01:01:15,800 Speaker 2: was death Row like you know what I mean. It 1212 01:01:15,920 --> 01:01:19,200 Speaker 2: was like the craziest probably company and shit around that 1213 01:01:19,280 --> 01:01:20,520 Speaker 2: he could be around as a kid. 1214 01:01:21,600 --> 01:01:24,120 Speaker 3: Crazy for an adult, yeah, it was. 1215 01:01:24,120 --> 01:01:24,880 Speaker 2: Crazy for adult. 1216 01:01:25,000 --> 01:01:25,200 Speaker 5: Yeah. 1217 01:01:25,240 --> 01:01:30,400 Speaker 2: But but so so I had to figure out how 1218 01:01:30,520 --> 01:01:35,880 Speaker 2: to get to a place that he'll like because he 1219 01:01:35,960 --> 01:01:39,600 Speaker 2: already was a artist. Christ and Chris I made into artists, right, 1220 01:01:39,680 --> 01:01:41,440 Speaker 2: but he was already a artist. So I had to, like, 1221 01:01:42,960 --> 01:01:44,760 Speaker 2: I had to figure out him. Yeh see what he 1222 01:01:44,840 --> 01:01:46,640 Speaker 2: was doing? Da da da, So he had to stay 1223 01:01:47,160 --> 01:01:50,920 Speaker 2: he stayed here and the land in my house and 1224 01:01:51,120 --> 01:01:53,240 Speaker 2: was just like around and around and around, and we 1225 01:01:53,360 --> 01:01:57,800 Speaker 2: put out we put out one song ros Huh on 1226 01:01:57,880 --> 01:02:04,160 Speaker 2: the Wild Wild West soundtrack with Will Smith, and that 1227 01:02:04,320 --> 01:02:06,120 Speaker 2: wasn't it, right, that won't the song. 1228 01:02:06,280 --> 01:02:06,840 Speaker 8: It wasn't it. 1229 01:02:06,880 --> 01:02:08,880 Speaker 2: But but it was just a test to see and 1230 01:02:08,920 --> 01:02:10,840 Speaker 2: I was just trying to like hurry up and get 1231 01:02:10,920 --> 01:02:16,160 Speaker 2: him out. And then it was like I'm like, nah, 1232 01:02:16,160 --> 01:02:19,560 Speaker 2: that ain't it. He not he not He not cool enough, 1233 01:02:19,760 --> 01:02:21,360 Speaker 2: Like he just seemed like a little rapper. 1234 01:02:21,680 --> 01:02:22,200 Speaker 5: Regret that. 1235 01:02:22,280 --> 01:02:24,440 Speaker 2: Now I'm like, it can't be, Like he can't be 1236 01:02:24,640 --> 01:02:27,920 Speaker 2: just like a little rapper. He gotta be, he gotta be. 1237 01:02:28,240 --> 01:02:33,600 Speaker 2: He gotta be like double flies. Chris was to everybody 1238 01:02:33,680 --> 01:02:35,360 Speaker 2: like when you said you was wearing your pants back, 1239 01:02:35,480 --> 01:02:39,160 Speaker 2: was like I was trying to figure out what was 1240 01:02:39,200 --> 01:02:41,439 Speaker 2: bow Wow gonna be? How was I gonna get bow 1241 01:02:41,480 --> 01:02:46,200 Speaker 2: Wow to have that same effect on young kids and 1242 01:02:46,280 --> 01:02:48,320 Speaker 2: young boys and whatever, young girls and all of that. 1243 01:02:48,440 --> 01:02:52,560 Speaker 2: So it's like I just kept trying to think of 1244 01:02:52,600 --> 01:02:56,000 Speaker 2: like the coolest ship, the coolest ship that he could 1245 01:02:56,040 --> 01:02:58,560 Speaker 2: possibly do, blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. And 1246 01:02:58,600 --> 01:03:03,120 Speaker 2: then uh, I got the soundtrack for Big Mama's House. 1247 01:03:04,560 --> 01:03:08,680 Speaker 2: And I'm like, I'm gonna figure it out with this. 1248 01:03:08,760 --> 01:03:10,360 Speaker 2: I'm gonna figure out a song for about while on 1249 01:03:10,400 --> 01:03:12,600 Speaker 2: the soundtrack, and we don't get this going. 1250 01:03:12,920 --> 01:03:15,280 Speaker 7: There used to be a real thing. Breaking artists on soundtracks. 1251 01:03:15,560 --> 01:03:17,040 Speaker 7: They used to be a real thing because it was 1252 01:03:17,040 --> 01:03:18,040 Speaker 7: a broken was the cheap. 1253 01:03:18,400 --> 01:03:20,960 Speaker 2: It was a cheats A movie especially had a big 1254 01:03:21,000 --> 01:03:23,560 Speaker 2: movie like Mark Lawrence. It was big like Big Mama's House. 1255 01:03:23,840 --> 01:03:25,680 Speaker 2: The budget was bigger than what you could get on 1256 01:03:25,720 --> 01:03:28,640 Speaker 2: the album budget for the artists, right, so you could 1257 01:03:28,640 --> 01:03:31,360 Speaker 2: get a big video. His first video, Dave Myers did 1258 01:03:31,400 --> 01:03:34,160 Speaker 2: his first video. You don't know no new artists who 1259 01:03:34,280 --> 01:03:35,120 Speaker 2: get Dave Myers. 1260 01:03:35,280 --> 01:03:35,840 Speaker 8: That's crazy. 1261 01:03:35,920 --> 01:03:39,320 Speaker 2: He's thirteen, He's twelve years old. He got Dave Mis's 1262 01:03:39,360 --> 01:03:46,480 Speaker 2: his first his first video, right. So so I'm like, 1263 01:03:46,680 --> 01:03:50,560 Speaker 2: you know, I'm thinking, I'm so the first time about 1264 01:03:50,600 --> 01:03:54,720 Speaker 2: when we did the first record, I wasn't thinking about. 1265 01:03:55,440 --> 01:04:00,200 Speaker 5: The collaboration between him and Snoop. I wasn't. I wasn't 1266 01:04:00,200 --> 01:04:00,640 Speaker 5: really like. 1267 01:04:02,400 --> 01:04:07,520 Speaker 2: Married to how important that was, right, And then it 1268 01:04:07,680 --> 01:04:11,520 Speaker 2: started clicking to me, like, you know, this guy is 1269 01:04:13,760 --> 01:04:19,760 Speaker 2: mentored by Snoop, produced by me on my label, like 1270 01:04:19,800 --> 01:04:22,000 Speaker 2: you gotta use all of this ship. This is, this 1271 01:04:22,160 --> 01:04:25,240 Speaker 2: is these are super powers, like these are not like 1272 01:04:25,760 --> 01:04:28,080 Speaker 2: this ain't shit that you could just like, oh yeah, 1273 01:04:28,200 --> 01:04:31,600 Speaker 2: Snoop found him and like you said, left eyes in 1274 01:04:31,640 --> 01:04:33,640 Speaker 2: the closet like you can't just like you know what 1275 01:04:33,680 --> 01:04:35,200 Speaker 2: I mean. And I was doing that At first. I 1276 01:04:35,320 --> 01:04:39,240 Speaker 2: wasn't even like putting that energy into it. And then 1277 01:04:39,320 --> 01:04:41,960 Speaker 2: one one day I thought about it and I was like, Yo, 1278 01:04:42,720 --> 01:04:46,080 Speaker 2: I'm gonna do a video with bow Wow and I'm 1279 01:04:46,080 --> 01:04:48,000 Speaker 2: gonna have a dog running down the street and he 1280 01:04:48,120 --> 01:04:49,800 Speaker 2: gonna turn into bow Wow. 1281 01:04:51,280 --> 01:04:52,960 Speaker 5: And I mean, I'm in. Bratt was here. 1282 01:04:53,000 --> 01:04:54,840 Speaker 2: It was being Brat was thin and she was like 1283 01:04:54,880 --> 01:04:57,360 Speaker 2: you crazy, and I'm like, nah, that shit gonna be stupid. 1284 01:04:57,920 --> 01:05:01,440 Speaker 2: And I'm like, Snoop did it. Snoop turned into the thing, 1285 01:05:01,480 --> 01:05:03,520 Speaker 2: and I'm like, we gotta do we gotta do about 1286 01:05:03,600 --> 01:05:05,760 Speaker 2: He's little bow Wow. His name is little bow Wow 1287 01:05:05,840 --> 01:05:08,880 Speaker 2: for its basically little Snoop. That's what his name is. Right. 1288 01:05:09,440 --> 01:05:13,600 Speaker 2: So once I started understanding, and that was the Okay, 1289 01:05:13,600 --> 01:05:15,400 Speaker 2: we got some meat right here, We gotta we got 1290 01:05:15,400 --> 01:05:19,200 Speaker 2: some meat right here. What how I gonna make him 1291 01:05:19,240 --> 01:05:23,960 Speaker 2: sound so that he can live up to that, that 1292 01:05:23,960 --> 01:05:26,240 Speaker 2: that level of you know, creativity. 1293 01:05:28,840 --> 01:05:34,960 Speaker 5: And then I'm like he always be acting like he. 1294 01:05:34,880 --> 01:05:39,600 Speaker 2: Could really rap, right, Brad like, yeah, that the motherfucker 1295 01:05:39,680 --> 01:05:43,439 Speaker 2: think he ship. I'm like, all right, well, Brad, write 1296 01:05:43,480 --> 01:05:45,600 Speaker 2: him a rap right. At this point, Brat was. 1297 01:05:48,400 --> 01:05:48,800 Speaker 3: Chicago. 1298 01:05:49,720 --> 01:05:52,840 Speaker 2: I'm like, I can't even do her raps right. I'm like, 1299 01:05:53,960 --> 01:05:58,080 Speaker 2: I'm like, you write, I'm writing rap. I write a song, right, 1300 01:05:58,200 --> 01:06:01,080 Speaker 2: bounce with me. First verse, I said, rap, you write 1301 01:06:01,120 --> 01:06:03,720 Speaker 2: the second verse. I want you to write that ship 1302 01:06:03,800 --> 01:06:07,360 Speaker 2: like you write it and write it crazy with cadence 1303 01:06:07,400 --> 01:06:08,560 Speaker 2: and all of this. 1304 01:06:09,360 --> 01:06:12,600 Speaker 5: So Brat did it verse. Now I'm thinking. 1305 01:06:13,080 --> 01:06:16,360 Speaker 8: It's too hard for him. 1306 01:06:16,520 --> 01:06:18,400 Speaker 2: I'm thinking, like we done went too far because he 1307 01:06:18,400 --> 01:06:19,960 Speaker 2: ain't gonna be a the door because this ain't how 1308 01:06:20,000 --> 01:06:25,360 Speaker 2: he rapped, right. So then we're doing it in here, 1309 01:06:25,400 --> 01:06:28,919 Speaker 2: actually in this room right here, or come in this room. 1310 01:06:29,120 --> 01:06:30,680 Speaker 2: And he didn't want he never wanted me to be 1311 01:06:30,720 --> 01:06:33,040 Speaker 2: in the studio when he writes, when he do his verses. 1312 01:06:33,840 --> 01:06:36,120 Speaker 2: So I left the room. I think I went to 1313 01:06:36,160 --> 01:06:40,520 Speaker 2: the strip club or something. I came back and he 1314 01:06:40,560 --> 01:06:42,960 Speaker 2: had did it. I heard Brat verse. I ain't even 1315 01:06:43,000 --> 01:06:44,919 Speaker 2: hear my verse. I heard the verse that that Bratt 1316 01:06:44,960 --> 01:06:46,040 Speaker 2: did when I came. 1317 01:06:45,880 --> 01:06:50,840 Speaker 3: Back, and I was like, m you still have that 1318 01:06:51,520 --> 01:06:52,040 Speaker 3: the reference? 1319 01:06:53,080 --> 01:06:54,840 Speaker 2: I mean now the references to him. Oh you're talking 1320 01:06:54,880 --> 01:06:57,320 Speaker 2: about the Brat reference reference. I don't know. I don't 1321 01:06:57,320 --> 01:07:01,600 Speaker 2: know it's probably, but I can. I was like, how 1322 01:07:01,680 --> 01:07:04,520 Speaker 2: y'all getting him to do that? And by the fact, 1323 01:07:04,920 --> 01:07:07,320 Speaker 2: it wasn't just it was just you, It was just 1324 01:07:07,400 --> 01:07:13,080 Speaker 2: you and Brian him. It was Brian now like he's 1325 01:07:13,080 --> 01:07:16,080 Speaker 2: saying is light, but he wasn't rapping like that, so 1326 01:07:16,160 --> 01:07:19,040 Speaker 2: I didn't think. I thought it was like this was 1327 01:07:19,080 --> 01:07:22,680 Speaker 2: gonna be difficult for him, and it wasn't. It was 1328 01:07:22,760 --> 01:07:27,280 Speaker 2: like super easy for him. And I'm like, wait a minute, 1329 01:07:28,560 --> 01:07:33,560 Speaker 2: Oh oh, he could really rap like like like he 1330 01:07:33,600 --> 01:07:35,800 Speaker 2: could really rap like this, ain't like some ship like 1331 01:07:36,200 --> 01:07:38,480 Speaker 2: And I wasn't here when he did it, so I 1332 01:07:38,480 --> 01:07:40,320 Speaker 2: don't even know how the fuck he came out right, 1333 01:07:41,160 --> 01:07:42,760 Speaker 2: So all I know is I heard the song and 1334 01:07:42,800 --> 01:07:46,320 Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, boom, I need to get somebody on 1335 01:07:46,400 --> 01:07:50,760 Speaker 2: the song. I called Toshing from Escape over here to 1336 01:07:50,840 --> 01:07:54,320 Speaker 2: sing the hook and we started finishing the Bounce of 1337 01:07:54,320 --> 01:07:58,920 Speaker 2: Me record, and at that point all I all I 1338 01:07:58,960 --> 01:08:01,720 Speaker 2: could start thinking about was the video I'm thinking about, Like, yo, 1339 01:08:01,760 --> 01:08:04,360 Speaker 2: when these people see this little dude rapping like this 1340 01:08:05,040 --> 01:08:08,560 Speaker 2: and he turned into a dog and we got a 1341 01:08:08,600 --> 01:08:12,000 Speaker 2: little singing hook on heire, we should be good, right. 1342 01:08:12,080 --> 01:08:13,880 Speaker 2: I'm just trying to you know what I mean. I'm 1343 01:08:13,920 --> 01:08:15,040 Speaker 2: trying to do what I'm doing. 1344 01:08:15,600 --> 01:08:17,479 Speaker 5: You know. I started paying attention to that. 1345 01:08:17,600 --> 01:08:21,760 Speaker 2: I started paying attention to how much social death meant 1346 01:08:21,800 --> 01:08:25,960 Speaker 2: to kids because of Bow Wow. I start seeing other 1347 01:08:26,080 --> 01:08:28,800 Speaker 2: young artists want to rap because of bow Wow. And 1348 01:08:28,840 --> 01:08:35,360 Speaker 2: I start saying, Okay, he's creating this a thing, and social. 1349 01:08:35,080 --> 01:08:38,800 Speaker 5: Death is the brand behind this thing. Right. So then 1350 01:08:38,840 --> 01:08:40,840 Speaker 5: that's when I start stop. 1351 01:08:42,640 --> 01:08:47,120 Speaker 2: I started not being scared to like be the guy 1352 01:08:47,160 --> 01:08:50,160 Speaker 2: that breaks young artists. I'm like, Okay, at this point, 1353 01:08:50,320 --> 01:08:53,320 Speaker 2: i know how to do this better than anybody, so 1354 01:08:54,080 --> 01:08:57,200 Speaker 2: I'm gonna just figure out how to do it again, 1355 01:08:57,680 --> 01:09:00,320 Speaker 2: but do it on a different scale. Right. So when 1356 01:09:00,320 --> 01:09:02,280 Speaker 2: the rap game came, that's what that was. The rap 1357 01:09:02,360 --> 01:09:07,120 Speaker 2: game basically did exactly that Bow Wow bow I was twelve. 1358 01:09:08,040 --> 01:09:11,200 Speaker 2: The rap game took it back down. They was there 1359 01:09:11,200 --> 01:09:13,840 Speaker 2: was a whole group of you young motherfuckers that slew 1360 01:09:14,400 --> 01:09:17,519 Speaker 2: right like now, like Mulatto, younger than bow Wow j 1361 01:09:17,720 --> 01:09:19,760 Speaker 2: I's younger than Bower. All of these kids, they're younger 1362 01:09:19,800 --> 01:09:21,760 Speaker 2: than him. So it's like the same thing. It's like 1363 01:09:22,000 --> 01:09:24,920 Speaker 2: you've seen that's what. That's what, That's what it just started. 1364 01:09:24,960 --> 01:09:27,120 Speaker 2: I saw that, and I'm like, oh, this is gonna 1365 01:09:27,120 --> 01:09:31,519 Speaker 2: be my thing. I'm gonna start go one, gonna take 1366 01:09:31,560 --> 01:09:33,479 Speaker 2: it back and figure out a way to do it again, 1367 01:09:33,560 --> 01:09:36,720 Speaker 2: and just keep sending it and selling it into a 1368 01:09:36,720 --> 01:09:38,760 Speaker 2: whole new audience. You know what I mean, even like this, 1369 01:09:39,120 --> 01:09:42,400 Speaker 2: like this whole Tray Young thing, like Trey Young is 1370 01:09:42,439 --> 01:09:46,599 Speaker 2: what twenty one will put you on. Try put Trey 1371 01:09:46,640 --> 01:09:50,800 Speaker 2: Young's twenty one he posted because you young, right, how 1372 01:09:50,800 --> 01:09:51,280 Speaker 2: old is he? 1373 01:09:52,160 --> 01:09:53,280 Speaker 5: Like twenty two? 1374 01:09:53,640 --> 01:09:58,200 Speaker 2: Okay, So it's people that that's that's fucking with Trey 1375 01:09:58,240 --> 01:10:01,400 Speaker 2: Young buying these snip You're seeing these hoodies, buying the 1376 01:10:01,439 --> 01:10:04,040 Speaker 2: hoodies and all that. They probably ain't even listen to 1377 01:10:04,439 --> 01:10:08,000 Speaker 2: Jermaine du Prix album, but now they see this, this 1378 01:10:08,160 --> 01:10:11,120 Speaker 2: is associated with that, and that's that's that's giving this 1379 01:10:11,160 --> 01:10:15,080 Speaker 2: whole brand a whole another that start over thing. And 1380 01:10:15,120 --> 01:10:17,160 Speaker 2: it's like, now, like I said, now that I know 1381 01:10:17,280 --> 01:10:19,640 Speaker 2: that that's what it is, that's what I use so 1382 01:10:19,800 --> 01:10:22,120 Speaker 2: just to answer your question in a long form, that's 1383 01:10:22,120 --> 01:10:25,640 Speaker 2: what bow I did. He brought. He brought that that 1384 01:10:25,800 --> 01:10:29,599 Speaker 2: structure to me. Once I realized what it was, I'm like, okay, 1385 01:10:29,880 --> 01:10:32,760 Speaker 2: I gotta use this because yeah, as a star, like 1386 01:10:32,800 --> 01:10:36,599 Speaker 2: he said, if you as a rapper to see kids 1387 01:10:37,160 --> 01:10:40,160 Speaker 2: fainting and running and chasing him, you can't duplicate that, 1388 01:10:40,800 --> 01:10:42,400 Speaker 2: Like that's not some ship. You're gonna be like, Okay, 1389 01:10:42,439 --> 01:10:45,080 Speaker 2: well I'm gonna go. We're gonna go find another one 1390 01:10:45,080 --> 01:10:46,799 Speaker 2: of these. Okay. 1391 01:10:47,000 --> 01:10:48,439 Speaker 4: I do kind of want to I kind of want 1392 01:10:48,439 --> 01:10:50,960 Speaker 4: to gas him up a little bit. What you what 1393 01:10:51,080 --> 01:10:53,960 Speaker 4: you feel you brought to so so death? Oh wow, 1394 01:10:55,240 --> 01:10:56,960 Speaker 4: I know, just take a simple question. 1395 01:10:57,640 --> 01:10:57,840 Speaker 5: You know. 1396 01:10:58,360 --> 01:11:01,599 Speaker 10: You know, after we got done with Millennium Tour, I'm like, JD, look, 1397 01:11:03,520 --> 01:11:05,120 Speaker 10: you know the ship I was talking when I came 1398 01:11:05,120 --> 01:11:08,599 Speaker 10: in here. I'm like, look here, man, you normal gas post. 1399 01:11:09,439 --> 01:11:10,760 Speaker 5: If nobody was gonna do it, I'm gonna do it. 1400 01:11:10,840 --> 01:11:11,920 Speaker 5: So I'm like, get off. 1401 01:11:12,080 --> 01:11:15,799 Speaker 10: I'm like JD. Look, I said, Nigga, I'm like kiss 1402 01:11:16,080 --> 01:11:17,960 Speaker 10: rolling stones right now. I told you, you know, I mean 1403 01:11:18,000 --> 01:11:19,800 Speaker 10: me and Drake we talk a lot here, like Nigga, listen, 1404 01:11:21,120 --> 01:11:22,880 Speaker 10: I don't know nobody else in the business other than 1405 01:11:22,920 --> 01:11:25,280 Speaker 10: the greats who can go on tour arenas and roll 1406 01:11:25,280 --> 01:11:26,720 Speaker 10: out of bed and go do some ship and do 1407 01:11:26,800 --> 01:11:27,320 Speaker 10: what y'all did. 1408 01:11:27,320 --> 01:11:28,280 Speaker 5: That shit is incredible. 1409 01:11:28,320 --> 01:11:30,840 Speaker 10: So it's like I tell him all the time, even 1410 01:11:30,840 --> 01:11:33,160 Speaker 10: when we're in our group chat and we talking ship 1411 01:11:33,240 --> 01:11:34,599 Speaker 10: to each other, I'm nigg you know, I'm the biggest 1412 01:11:34,680 --> 01:11:35,000 Speaker 10: artist you. 1413 01:11:35,000 --> 01:11:38,280 Speaker 5: Ever had, straight up, up and down movies. 1414 01:11:39,560 --> 01:11:42,760 Speaker 10: If that fails hosting the first rapper to host the 1415 01:11:42,760 --> 01:11:45,599 Speaker 10: grant you know, the rig, all that one O six 1416 01:11:46,120 --> 01:11:48,680 Speaker 10: hosting skills, rap and act and all that, I'm the 1417 01:11:48,680 --> 01:11:49,599 Speaker 10: bo Jackson the rap. 1418 01:11:50,880 --> 01:11:51,840 Speaker 8: Get your ship off. 1419 01:11:55,320 --> 01:11:57,679 Speaker 3: Off now you ain't not the bou Jackson rap. 1420 01:11:58,680 --> 01:12:01,680 Speaker 10: I mean I never really dipped into like sneakers and 1421 01:12:01,680 --> 01:12:04,240 Speaker 10: what he accomplished, you know what I'm saying, that's all him. 1422 01:12:04,280 --> 01:12:09,240 Speaker 10: But as far as like what l laid down while heep, 1423 01:12:09,439 --> 01:12:12,840 Speaker 10: you know, Hove could be Bo Jackson rap on a 1424 01:12:12,840 --> 01:12:16,360 Speaker 10: business standpoint from wrapping the business, absolutely, But when we're 1425 01:12:16,360 --> 01:12:21,400 Speaker 10: talking about entertainment, pure entertainment, I don't give it like 1426 01:12:22,439 --> 01:12:25,679 Speaker 10: I really feel like I'm that nigga, like acting, what's 1427 01:12:25,720 --> 01:12:30,040 Speaker 10: do it hosts or something? Pay me rapping, just prove 1428 01:12:30,120 --> 01:12:32,599 Speaker 10: that for two months straight, you know what I'm saying. 1429 01:12:32,640 --> 01:12:35,880 Speaker 10: So it's like I tell him all the time, no 1430 01:12:35,920 --> 01:12:38,760 Speaker 10: disrespect to nobody who will signed to the label before me. 1431 01:12:38,840 --> 01:12:42,680 Speaker 10: But it's like, you know, it's like the end of 1432 01:12:42,720 --> 01:12:46,120 Speaker 10: snoopid me when me and Dog talk, is when Drake 1433 01:12:46,160 --> 01:12:48,360 Speaker 10: come around, when JD around. 1434 01:12:49,640 --> 01:12:52,719 Speaker 5: It's just weird. It's just how it just funct ways 1435 01:12:52,760 --> 01:12:53,040 Speaker 5: that way. 1436 01:12:53,080 --> 01:12:54,960 Speaker 10: But I tell him all the time, and I'm like, 1437 01:12:55,000 --> 01:12:57,439 Speaker 10: Snooper tell Drad, I'm the biggest moment, no matter what, 1438 01:12:58,600 --> 01:13:00,920 Speaker 10: I'm the biggest, and that's what it is. 1439 01:13:01,000 --> 01:13:03,200 Speaker 8: Jad called me when y'all was on tour. He asked 1440 01:13:03,240 --> 01:13:03,639 Speaker 8: me a question. 1441 01:13:03,720 --> 01:13:06,519 Speaker 7: He said, Yo, why he said bad was selling out 1442 01:13:06,640 --> 01:13:09,639 Speaker 7: all these arenas and it's crazy. 1443 01:13:09,760 --> 01:13:11,599 Speaker 8: He was like, but none of these blogs is picking 1444 01:13:11,600 --> 01:13:14,920 Speaker 8: it up. They're not talking about it. They not. 1445 01:13:15,120 --> 01:13:16,720 Speaker 10: They wasn't at the time, probably not like how you 1446 01:13:16,880 --> 01:13:19,280 Speaker 10: wanted them to, but they did for when it mattered. 1447 01:13:19,400 --> 01:13:21,400 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, shave room, fuck with you. 1448 01:13:21,640 --> 01:13:23,559 Speaker 2: I'm not talking about the shaved room, talking about these 1449 01:13:23,720 --> 01:13:31,680 Speaker 2: rat gods, the blogs. The blogs. I mean, say academic right, 1450 01:13:31,760 --> 01:13:36,880 Speaker 2: academic DJ, academics. I'm talking to you here right now. 1451 01:13:37,880 --> 01:13:41,640 Speaker 2: I don't know I'm that serious. I'm saying he a 1452 01:13:41,720 --> 01:13:45,280 Speaker 2: young he's a young guy, right, because this is something 1453 01:13:45,320 --> 01:13:49,040 Speaker 2: that that's always really really weird to me about social 1454 01:13:49,120 --> 01:13:54,960 Speaker 2: death because I talk about we've been talking about the youth. 1455 01:13:55,080 --> 01:13:56,799 Speaker 5: You see how young I was when I started. 1456 01:13:57,600 --> 01:14:00,639 Speaker 2: You see how young he was. Everything here it has 1457 01:14:00,800 --> 01:14:05,479 Speaker 2: always been young. But you Barry Gordy Nook, Okay, but 1458 01:14:06,080 --> 01:14:11,160 Speaker 2: I'm saying you got all these you got young bloggers 1459 01:14:11,160 --> 01:14:13,360 Speaker 2: now that claim their. 1460 01:14:16,880 --> 01:14:20,080 Speaker 5: What is it reporting the young artists of the world? 1461 01:14:20,160 --> 01:14:20,320 Speaker 2: Right? 1462 01:14:20,479 --> 01:14:21,120 Speaker 3: Yeah? 1463 01:14:21,160 --> 01:14:24,639 Speaker 2: How do you not report the young guy that got 1464 01:14:24,680 --> 01:14:26,360 Speaker 2: all the young guys. 1465 01:14:25,960 --> 01:14:28,640 Speaker 4: Into because you have to look at the name of 1466 01:14:28,640 --> 01:14:31,800 Speaker 4: the toy I was doing that. I'm thirty one years old. 1467 01:14:32,200 --> 01:14:34,920 Speaker 4: I'm running to that tour that was my whole childhood. 1468 01:14:35,200 --> 01:14:38,040 Speaker 4: These people is literally who I grew up on, Like 1469 01:14:38,080 --> 01:14:40,200 Speaker 4: this is when I was trying to get pussy, was 1470 01:14:40,240 --> 01:14:41,320 Speaker 4: when they was making music. 1471 01:14:42,880 --> 01:14:46,360 Speaker 3: So that's where I've run to. And no matter how. 1472 01:14:46,200 --> 01:14:48,960 Speaker 4: Old those bloggers, wherever they are, their audience is younger. 1473 01:14:50,520 --> 01:14:52,280 Speaker 4: Now you're just trying to post some ship where you 1474 01:14:52,320 --> 01:14:55,840 Speaker 4: look old. Because hip hop, hip hop moves in two 1475 01:14:55,960 --> 01:14:58,200 Speaker 4: years of hip hop is fifteen years in any other genres. 1476 01:14:59,040 --> 01:15:02,200 Speaker 2: Listen, I would I I would agree with that. But 1477 01:15:02,240 --> 01:15:05,120 Speaker 2: that's not the truth, right. You know, Tom Brady win 1478 01:15:05,200 --> 01:15:08,599 Speaker 2: the Super Bowl this year, they're going to report that. 1479 01:15:08,560 --> 01:15:11,440 Speaker 3: Shit, Uh, because. 1480 01:15:15,160 --> 01:15:15,759 Speaker 5: That's different. 1481 01:15:15,880 --> 01:15:20,519 Speaker 4: No, no, no, ESPN will, ESPN will, but People's Magazine and 1482 01:15:20,600 --> 01:15:23,240 Speaker 4: Tom Brady. 1483 01:15:23,280 --> 01:15:28,360 Speaker 5: But do you know why? Because the nah but no. 1484 01:15:28,439 --> 01:15:31,320 Speaker 2: But but like you said, I'm trying to give your flowers. 1485 01:15:31,320 --> 01:15:34,200 Speaker 2: I'm just saying, like I get it. Wait, listen, listen, listen. 1486 01:15:34,200 --> 01:15:40,840 Speaker 2: All I'm saying is I don't understand how you overlook, 1487 01:15:42,040 --> 01:15:43,920 Speaker 2: like you just said, if you want to be both jacks, 1488 01:15:43,960 --> 01:15:46,040 Speaker 2: whatever you want to be, I don't understand how you 1489 01:15:46,080 --> 01:15:52,040 Speaker 2: overlook a guy that came out at twelve years old, 1490 01:15:52,640 --> 01:15:58,439 Speaker 2: so three million records in two thousand and one and 1491 01:15:58,479 --> 01:16:06,280 Speaker 2: in twenty twenty one. Okay, it's selling out arenas and 1492 01:16:08,160 --> 01:16:10,920 Speaker 2: nobody else that was on one O six and. 1493 01:16:10,960 --> 01:16:13,080 Speaker 5: Part when Bowo was number one on one O six 1494 01:16:13,160 --> 01:16:16,200 Speaker 5: and part is doing that is't even even out. No, 1495 01:16:16,360 --> 01:16:17,200 Speaker 5: that's that's that's facts. 1496 01:16:17,240 --> 01:16:20,040 Speaker 4: But I get justin lea boy a quick meme, real quick. 1497 01:16:20,280 --> 01:16:22,479 Speaker 4: You asking for flowers from the wrong soil. Know what 1498 01:16:22,520 --> 01:16:25,400 Speaker 4: I'm not asking I'm not, but I'm really I'm not. 1499 01:16:25,439 --> 01:16:25,679 Speaker 2: Really. 1500 01:16:25,960 --> 01:16:27,799 Speaker 3: I don't want anybody ever honored anyone. 1501 01:16:27,960 --> 01:16:29,320 Speaker 5: What I'm saying, I don't honor gossip. 1502 01:16:29,400 --> 01:16:31,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, but I'm saying I don't really want nobody to 1503 01:16:31,240 --> 01:16:34,000 Speaker 2: give him like, oh, bow you deserve this. He doesn't say, 1504 01:16:34,200 --> 01:16:36,120 Speaker 2: yeah he does. But that's not saying. That's not what 1505 01:16:36,160 --> 01:16:36,559 Speaker 2: I'm just saying. 1506 01:16:36,600 --> 01:16:38,880 Speaker 8: I'm just certain things that should be reported. 1507 01:16:38,439 --> 01:16:39,479 Speaker 5: By just hip hop. 1508 01:16:39,560 --> 01:16:42,639 Speaker 2: This is a hip hop thing, Like it's like, this 1509 01:16:42,720 --> 01:16:47,080 Speaker 2: is hip hop. This is you talking about it? Like 1510 01:16:47,120 --> 01:16:49,439 Speaker 2: I said, this is what I had to do. I 1511 01:16:49,600 --> 01:16:53,360 Speaker 2: was ignoring the fact that what the superpowers that bow 1512 01:16:53,760 --> 01:16:57,439 Speaker 2: come with before me? Bow I was signed to Doctor 1513 01:16:57,560 --> 01:17:02,639 Speaker 2: Dre and Snoop Dog at five years old. 1514 01:17:02,680 --> 01:17:04,000 Speaker 3: He's the Forrest Gump of hip hop. 1515 01:17:04,439 --> 01:17:08,360 Speaker 5: Yes, but I'm just saying to say hit everything. 1516 01:17:08,439 --> 01:17:10,519 Speaker 2: But to say that right, to say that and then 1517 01:17:10,640 --> 01:17:13,040 Speaker 2: look at it and be like it's twenty. 1518 01:17:12,760 --> 01:17:16,400 Speaker 8: Twenty one, right, it should be reported. 1519 01:17:16,400 --> 01:17:19,000 Speaker 2: Like you you ain't gotta you ain't gotta say, oh 1520 01:17:19,080 --> 01:17:20,000 Speaker 2: I fuck with Bowy. 1521 01:17:20,040 --> 01:17:21,160 Speaker 5: That niggas don't know what it is. 1522 01:17:21,320 --> 01:17:23,080 Speaker 2: All you gotta do is like, yo, do you you 1523 01:17:23,120 --> 01:17:26,120 Speaker 2: could do it for I can't believe he's do you 1524 01:17:26,240 --> 01:17:29,040 Speaker 2: realize that Bow selling out of yeah Bow? 1525 01:17:29,040 --> 01:17:29,880 Speaker 5: Why something Bow? 1526 01:17:29,960 --> 01:17:32,040 Speaker 2: I just set out a show in New Jersey tonight. 1527 01:17:32,080 --> 01:17:33,680 Speaker 2: You could do it dumb like that and make it 1528 01:17:33,720 --> 01:17:36,880 Speaker 2: look like you hating, but still like you ain't. 1529 01:17:36,960 --> 01:17:38,160 Speaker 5: You ain't getting them in flowers. 1530 01:17:38,200 --> 01:17:39,000 Speaker 2: It's just the fuck that. 1531 01:17:39,080 --> 01:17:42,320 Speaker 5: But you have to acknowledge to your argument though. 1532 01:17:42,360 --> 01:17:44,720 Speaker 10: We in the businesses where it's like that's done for 1533 01:17:44,800 --> 01:17:47,320 Speaker 10: me lately type of shit. Motherfuckers can only remember what 1534 01:17:47,360 --> 01:17:50,400 Speaker 10: they can remember. It's no country, no, I know. It's 1535 01:17:50,439 --> 01:17:53,919 Speaker 10: weird like that's when you mentioned Tom Brady Pastor Mahomes 1536 01:17:53,920 --> 01:17:56,360 Speaker 10: is supposed to be the Steph Curry of the NFL, 1537 01:17:56,439 --> 01:17:59,439 Speaker 10: the new the new motherfucker on the black, who's changing 1538 01:17:59,439 --> 01:18:01,960 Speaker 10: the landscape football in the quarterback it's supposed to play 1539 01:18:02,000 --> 01:18:03,360 Speaker 10: with when the o g step up and he gotta 1540 01:18:03,360 --> 01:18:06,920 Speaker 10: face the younger and then he beats it. And then 1541 01:18:06,920 --> 01:18:09,519 Speaker 10: you look up and see how many accolades Tom got 1542 01:18:09,720 --> 01:18:11,880 Speaker 10: and he's still winning it today, which we still are. 1543 01:18:13,040 --> 01:18:17,360 Speaker 10: It's different. Why the Tom Brady compareson to soul Off, 1544 01:18:17,439 --> 01:18:20,400 Speaker 10: It's like you got it. You gotta talk about who 1545 01:18:20,439 --> 01:18:21,800 Speaker 10: then win more rings in time? 1546 01:18:23,000 --> 01:18:25,519 Speaker 5: Nobody. It's like Steph just broke the record. Ain't nobody 1547 01:18:25,520 --> 01:18:26,559 Speaker 5: about to beat that ship times? 1548 01:18:26,680 --> 01:18:29,000 Speaker 3: But but right now, and he beat them right now, 1549 01:18:31,720 --> 01:18:32,800 Speaker 3: and he beat the right now. 1550 01:18:32,880 --> 01:18:36,240 Speaker 5: Nigga water kidd washed him, cleaned it. 1551 01:18:37,640 --> 01:18:39,800 Speaker 10: Oh no, gotta make it if you if you had 1552 01:18:39,840 --> 01:18:43,360 Speaker 10: a son and he got he did. 1553 01:18:43,439 --> 01:18:45,679 Speaker 3: But guess guess who sold more jerseys after he beat him? 1554 01:18:45,960 --> 01:18:46,320 Speaker 5: Who? 1555 01:18:46,560 --> 01:18:47,120 Speaker 3: Patrick Mahon. 1556 01:18:49,720 --> 01:18:53,760 Speaker 5: That's the world saying that's a flowers thing. I'm not 1557 01:18:53,760 --> 01:18:54,479 Speaker 5: talking about flowers. 1558 01:18:54,439 --> 01:18:56,479 Speaker 2: I don't want nobody get I don't I don't want 1559 01:18:56,479 --> 01:18:57,360 Speaker 2: nobody get confused. 1560 01:18:57,400 --> 01:18:59,040 Speaker 5: I'm not talking about the flowers. I'm just saying in 1561 01:18:59,160 --> 01:19:00,200 Speaker 5: hip hop in general, I. 1562 01:19:00,160 --> 01:19:02,519 Speaker 2: Just feel like I feel like I feel like this 1563 01:19:02,680 --> 01:19:05,760 Speaker 2: is one of the parts of hip hop that being 1564 01:19:05,800 --> 01:19:11,839 Speaker 2: from the South actually is the downfall or down sparrow 1565 01:19:11,920 --> 01:19:17,120 Speaker 2: about being from the South because the South. Things happen 1566 01:19:17,160 --> 01:19:20,439 Speaker 2: in the South like that that are not reported as 1567 01:19:20,560 --> 01:19:22,680 Speaker 2: just a hip hop moment and when and not, and 1568 01:19:22,760 --> 01:19:25,400 Speaker 2: it's not about, hey, give these guys a flowers. It's 1569 01:19:25,479 --> 01:19:28,920 Speaker 2: just just reported as a moment, like, guys, this is 1570 01:19:29,040 --> 01:19:38,679 Speaker 2: twenty twenty one. Jarru no fat Joe, no fabulous, No 1571 01:19:38,680 --> 01:19:39,639 Speaker 2: not Joe get his ship. 1572 01:19:41,560 --> 01:19:42,320 Speaker 3: Joe is doing great. 1573 01:19:42,640 --> 01:19:45,120 Speaker 2: I mean I'm asking I'm talking about the people that 1574 01:19:45,240 --> 01:19:47,920 Speaker 2: was on one O six and part. All I'm saying 1575 01:19:48,040 --> 01:19:51,600 Speaker 2: is just list of rappers that was on one O 1576 01:19:51,720 --> 01:19:52,719 Speaker 2: six in part when. 1577 01:19:52,600 --> 01:19:54,680 Speaker 5: Bow Wow was number one on one on sixth A part. 1578 01:19:54,720 --> 01:19:55,679 Speaker 2: You remember this, right. 1579 01:19:55,560 --> 01:19:59,639 Speaker 3: Of course, name one of them that's free, of course. 1580 01:20:00,040 --> 01:20:04,160 Speaker 2: The name one that's on tour that's selling out twenty 1581 01:20:04,320 --> 01:20:05,639 Speaker 2: thousand seed the ring. 1582 01:20:05,720 --> 01:20:06,000 Speaker 3: Okay. 1583 01:20:06,000 --> 01:20:08,479 Speaker 4: Can I ask you this though, if Fat Joe sold 1584 01:20:08,479 --> 01:20:11,759 Speaker 4: out Madison Square Garden today, do you think these outlets 1585 01:20:11,800 --> 01:20:15,720 Speaker 4: that you're asking for flowers from would completely disagree If 1586 01:20:15,760 --> 01:20:17,880 Speaker 4: Fat Joe completely disagreed. 1587 01:20:17,520 --> 01:20:18,400 Speaker 5: What I'm talking about. 1588 01:20:18,560 --> 01:20:21,760 Speaker 4: I'm not saying anything about that. 1589 01:20:22,439 --> 01:20:22,680 Speaker 6: Do that. 1590 01:20:22,720 --> 01:20:25,519 Speaker 8: It's not reported what they wouldn't come on the. 1591 01:20:25,880 --> 01:20:27,400 Speaker 3: Would say you know what they were saying. They were saying, 1592 01:20:27,400 --> 01:20:29,439 Speaker 3: you Drake sold out for a week, So y'all are 1593 01:20:29,560 --> 01:20:32,360 Speaker 3: put why are you using the word person? 1594 01:20:32,400 --> 01:20:33,639 Speaker 8: I don't think they would, nah. 1595 01:20:33,880 --> 01:20:37,759 Speaker 2: I definitely listen by the way, one New York outlet 1596 01:20:38,160 --> 01:20:41,920 Speaker 2: would post say something about this. One of these guys 1597 01:20:42,080 --> 01:20:45,240 Speaker 2: would Charlemagne, whether it be it's gonna. 1598 01:20:44,960 --> 01:20:47,639 Speaker 3: Be from the South. Charlemaine's from the South. 1599 01:20:48,000 --> 01:20:50,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, but he's not He's from New York. Now stop, 1600 01:20:50,120 --> 01:20:55,080 Speaker 2: don't do that. He is somebody would say, I'm saying, 1601 01:20:55,120 --> 01:20:56,600 Speaker 2: I don't I believe that. 1602 01:20:56,600 --> 01:20:57,680 Speaker 8: I don't think they would do. 1603 01:20:57,960 --> 01:21:00,320 Speaker 4: We have his argument with our friend Justice shout out 1604 01:21:00,360 --> 01:21:01,440 Speaker 4: to LVR and everybody. 1605 01:21:02,240 --> 01:21:02,559 Speaker 8: Justice. 1606 01:21:02,720 --> 01:21:05,400 Speaker 4: Still, I feel like has this Atlanta complex with New 1607 01:21:05,479 --> 01:21:08,280 Speaker 4: York ship, and we have such the opposite because I 1608 01:21:08,280 --> 01:21:11,360 Speaker 4: feel like y'all have dominated us my entire life, maybe 1609 01:21:11,400 --> 01:21:14,320 Speaker 4: not Maul's life, but my life. Y'all have had a musically. 1610 01:21:14,479 --> 01:21:16,280 Speaker 4: So I look at Justice and Justin and I are 1611 01:21:16,280 --> 01:21:18,439 Speaker 4: the same age, and I'm like, how you still have. 1612 01:21:18,439 --> 01:21:20,879 Speaker 3: This New York complex over ship musically. 1613 01:21:21,360 --> 01:21:24,080 Speaker 4: I'm looking at y'all like we need to get like you. 1614 01:21:24,120 --> 01:21:26,680 Speaker 2: But media media wise. 1615 01:21:26,520 --> 01:21:28,800 Speaker 4: But that changed with the Internet out, especially with COVID too. 1616 01:21:28,880 --> 01:21:30,400 Speaker 4: Still you don't need to go into fucking New York 1617 01:21:30,400 --> 01:21:30,680 Speaker 4: no more. 1618 01:21:30,720 --> 01:21:33,559 Speaker 2: It's still it's still no different. 1619 01:21:34,360 --> 01:21:35,960 Speaker 3: And this hurts me to say it's a New Yorker, Like, 1620 01:21:36,000 --> 01:21:36,599 Speaker 3: don't think. 1621 01:21:36,400 --> 01:21:38,240 Speaker 2: This is easy for me. What you're saying that you 1622 01:21:38,320 --> 01:21:40,960 Speaker 2: don't need to do that, you don't, but you still 1623 01:21:41,200 --> 01:21:46,200 Speaker 2: have to is in Miami. He's from Queens, But you 1624 01:21:46,240 --> 01:21:49,120 Speaker 2: don't have to go to time. You know it pains 1625 01:21:49,120 --> 01:21:50,559 Speaker 2: me to say you don't have to do nothing in 1626 01:21:50,560 --> 01:21:50,880 Speaker 2: New York. 1627 01:21:50,920 --> 01:21:52,320 Speaker 8: No morning, I wouldn't say nothing. 1628 01:21:52,400 --> 01:21:53,480 Speaker 5: He's in New Yorker. 1629 01:21:53,560 --> 01:21:55,680 Speaker 4: You need that, You need that audience. It is the 1630 01:21:55,800 --> 01:21:57,719 Speaker 4: audience you need from New York. Don't get it twisted. 1631 01:21:57,920 --> 01:22:00,360 Speaker 4: That's a I'm saying. As far as in the street, shit, 1632 01:22:00,400 --> 01:22:02,720 Speaker 4: you don't it's gonna be there New York so like 1633 01:22:03,320 --> 01:22:05,440 Speaker 4: and everyone in the industry. 1634 01:22:04,840 --> 01:22:06,120 Speaker 5: New York is still like the number one mark. 1635 01:22:06,160 --> 01:22:08,240 Speaker 3: You gotta tap it one hundred per shit. Don't move 1636 01:22:08,320 --> 01:22:09,040 Speaker 3: out of New York City. 1637 01:22:09,080 --> 01:22:16,719 Speaker 10: That's what I said, just because it's the city wise 1638 01:22:16,800 --> 01:22:18,599 Speaker 10: everything though, Like this is how I feel like. It's 1639 01:22:18,600 --> 01:22:21,320 Speaker 10: a different energy. I get like when JD said, Okay, 1640 01:22:21,320 --> 01:22:23,800 Speaker 10: we sold out every fucking arena across the nation, right 1641 01:22:24,280 --> 01:22:28,799 Speaker 10: with the Tampa that's twenty thousand. If it was crazy, 1642 01:22:28,920 --> 01:22:30,880 Speaker 10: JD was there, it was it was retarded from top 1643 01:22:30,920 --> 01:22:32,160 Speaker 10: to bottom. But when we went to New York. We 1644 01:22:32,240 --> 01:22:33,559 Speaker 10: go to New York, we prepare for that ship. We 1645 01:22:33,600 --> 01:22:36,479 Speaker 10: look like even as rappers, we look up when we 1646 01:22:36,520 --> 01:22:38,120 Speaker 10: go to New York. We know that shit feel like 1647 01:22:38,160 --> 01:22:40,080 Speaker 10: a Monday night football game. Mal you're from New York 1648 01:22:40,080 --> 01:22:42,479 Speaker 10: you're from Queens, you know how we feel like when 1649 01:22:42,520 --> 01:22:45,080 Speaker 10: we about to owe the garden. Oh my god, watch 1650 01:22:45,280 --> 01:22:47,840 Speaker 10: can't wait? Everything go down in the gardens, you know 1651 01:22:47,880 --> 01:22:50,280 Speaker 10: what I'm saying. So we we to this day, niggas, 1652 01:22:50,320 --> 01:22:53,640 Speaker 10: even young niggas, we look forward to going to New 1653 01:22:53,720 --> 01:22:56,400 Speaker 10: York like that's always gonna be like to me, the 1654 01:22:56,479 --> 01:22:59,520 Speaker 10: number one spot, even though the a's a home. Ohio's 1655 01:22:59,520 --> 01:23:00,680 Speaker 10: the city like we know. 1656 01:23:01,240 --> 01:23:03,880 Speaker 4: But audience wise, I agree, nothing in the world of 1657 01:23:04,080 --> 01:23:07,360 Speaker 4: York is fuck America. The world don't move without New 1658 01:23:07,439 --> 01:23:07,840 Speaker 4: York City. 1659 01:23:07,960 --> 01:23:08,360 Speaker 2: I'm saying. 1660 01:23:08,360 --> 01:23:10,439 Speaker 4: With this industry ship, with the blog ship and the 1661 01:23:10,479 --> 01:23:12,840 Speaker 4: people like that ship don't matter no more. 1662 01:23:13,040 --> 01:23:15,960 Speaker 7: And sometimes you don't want you flowers from certain people 1663 01:23:16,720 --> 01:23:18,240 Speaker 7: like I just I mean, I'm saying, I don't care 1664 01:23:18,240 --> 01:23:21,160 Speaker 7: if certain people are reporting my status of my accolades, 1665 01:23:21,200 --> 01:23:21,960 Speaker 7: like I don't don't. 1666 01:23:22,040 --> 01:23:22,800 Speaker 8: I don't do it for that. 1667 01:23:22,920 --> 01:23:25,640 Speaker 7: Yeah, But as long as my pears though, like the 1668 01:23:25,720 --> 01:23:27,840 Speaker 7: niggas that I'm in the game with that they look 1669 01:23:27,920 --> 01:23:29,479 Speaker 7: up and be like, yo, he did what last. 1670 01:23:30,960 --> 01:23:35,040 Speaker 2: I've been fighting this forever. It's just a thing. It's 1671 01:23:35,080 --> 01:23:38,240 Speaker 2: a thing because you just want because because like I said, 1672 01:23:38,280 --> 01:23:44,080 Speaker 2: you want to you just want people to know. I 1673 01:23:44,160 --> 01:23:45,840 Speaker 2: just want people to know. I don't care if, like 1674 01:23:45,880 --> 01:23:47,519 Speaker 2: I said, they can say whatever they want to say 1675 01:23:47,560 --> 01:23:49,680 Speaker 2: about the situation. I'm not asking you. 1676 01:23:49,720 --> 01:23:53,280 Speaker 5: To even give me a r Your. 1677 01:23:53,840 --> 01:23:56,439 Speaker 8: Not getting reviews, they're not saying nothing. 1678 01:23:56,680 --> 01:23:59,599 Speaker 2: They're not saying nothing and acting like it doesn't even exist. 1679 01:24:00,280 --> 01:24:05,120 Speaker 2: And that that is partially why. I'm sure this is 1680 01:24:05,120 --> 01:24:07,479 Speaker 2: a question that y'all want to allude to, but this 1681 01:24:07,600 --> 01:24:11,439 Speaker 2: is partially why I did what I did when I 1682 01:24:11,439 --> 01:24:13,920 Speaker 2: did what I did on that Puff thing that day 1683 01:24:13,920 --> 01:24:16,559 Speaker 2: when we got on there about this versus, because I 1684 01:24:16,600 --> 01:24:22,320 Speaker 2: felt like I felt like the people that were screaming 1685 01:24:22,479 --> 01:24:25,760 Speaker 2: what they scream about Puff, they've heard it, they've seen it, 1686 01:24:25,840 --> 01:24:31,720 Speaker 2: because New York spills it out right. I guarantee you 1687 01:24:31,760 --> 01:24:35,160 Speaker 2: it's fifty records that I did that the majority that 1688 01:24:35,240 --> 01:24:37,960 Speaker 2: people don't know about because I'm here in Atlanta, and 1689 01:24:38,920 --> 01:24:42,280 Speaker 2: what happens with Bow Wow Tour has happened with my records, 1690 01:24:42,280 --> 01:24:44,400 Speaker 2: and what has happened with these artists and has happened 1691 01:24:44,439 --> 01:24:46,600 Speaker 2: with these You've heard the records, but you don't know 1692 01:24:46,640 --> 01:24:49,960 Speaker 2: what they've done. And unless Jenny starts popping shit and 1693 01:24:50,000 --> 01:24:52,960 Speaker 2: talking and going crazy, you don't even be knowing, right, 1694 01:24:53,200 --> 01:24:57,280 Speaker 2: Like I seen somebody yesterday and he's like, Yo, I 1695 01:24:57,280 --> 01:24:59,519 Speaker 2: mean how much ice cream are you gonna post? Do 1696 01:24:59,560 --> 01:25:03,160 Speaker 2: you make me music anymore? And I'm like, damn you 1697 01:25:03,160 --> 01:25:06,599 Speaker 2: you know? Do do you realize that I graduated from 1698 01:25:06,800 --> 01:25:13,160 Speaker 2: the class of ninety two? And alright, Lennox record might 1699 01:25:13,200 --> 01:25:14,719 Speaker 2: be number one in the next two weeks? 1700 01:25:14,720 --> 01:25:15,960 Speaker 3: Phenomenal record blacks? 1701 01:25:16,760 --> 01:25:19,800 Speaker 2: What were we talking about? Like, I'm but I had to 1702 01:25:20,000 --> 01:25:22,240 Speaker 2: I have to say this, right, you see what I'm saying. 1703 01:25:22,320 --> 01:25:24,080 Speaker 5: I have to say. This is nobody gonna say. 1704 01:25:24,120 --> 01:25:28,120 Speaker 2: Yo. Do y'all realize that this nigga started in ninety two? Yeah, 1705 01:25:28,120 --> 01:25:29,680 Speaker 2: I'm not asking you to give my flowers. I'm not 1706 01:25:29,720 --> 01:25:31,840 Speaker 2: even had you to say, Yo, the records jamming and 1707 01:25:31,880 --> 01:25:37,519 Speaker 2: I get it. I want you to say, who never 1708 01:25:37,680 --> 01:25:40,200 Speaker 2: have been a nigga? Do with this? Loan for this? 1709 01:25:40,439 --> 01:25:43,680 Speaker 2: Hard for this? What Hull saying? That's me? 1710 01:25:44,320 --> 01:25:46,400 Speaker 3: Can I ask? Can I ask you a very white therapy? 1711 01:25:47,400 --> 01:25:47,439 Speaker 4: No? 1712 01:25:47,920 --> 01:25:49,439 Speaker 3: Can I have a very white therapy question? 1713 01:25:49,520 --> 01:25:50,000 Speaker 2: Yeah? 1714 01:25:50,080 --> 01:25:52,639 Speaker 4: Back to you deciding when you saw Chris Cross getting 1715 01:25:52,680 --> 01:25:56,360 Speaker 4: all them cookies for free in that mall and said, no, 1716 01:25:56,479 --> 01:25:58,519 Speaker 4: they got something. I want to write for them. I 1717 01:25:58,560 --> 01:26:00,880 Speaker 4: want to be behind them and make them the stars. 1718 01:26:01,479 --> 01:26:03,479 Speaker 4: You don't feel like you've done that your whole career 1719 01:26:03,840 --> 01:26:06,280 Speaker 4: and didn't do the puff route where even though I 1720 01:26:06,320 --> 01:26:09,320 Speaker 4: am helping make these records, I'm gonna make sure I'm 1721 01:26:09,400 --> 01:26:10,800 Speaker 4: next to them, not behind them. 1722 01:26:11,640 --> 01:26:13,280 Speaker 5: So I feel like when you. 1723 01:26:13,240 --> 01:26:15,479 Speaker 4: Made that decision, when you saw them getting the free cookies, 1724 01:26:16,160 --> 01:26:18,240 Speaker 4: has come to this point of what you upset about 1725 01:26:18,240 --> 01:26:21,240 Speaker 4: in saying people not knowing about your whole legacy. 1726 01:26:20,840 --> 01:26:22,439 Speaker 5: No no, because you didn't have to yell it no, 1727 01:26:22,479 --> 01:26:23,840 Speaker 5: but I just did it. But that's what I'm saying. 1728 01:26:23,880 --> 01:26:24,639 Speaker 2: I'm not upset. 1729 01:26:24,760 --> 01:26:26,479 Speaker 3: This is the things the wrong word. 1730 01:26:26,479 --> 01:26:26,880 Speaker 8: I'm sorry. 1731 01:26:27,000 --> 01:26:29,640 Speaker 2: I'm not upset. What I feel like. I feel like this. 1732 01:26:30,240 --> 01:26:34,439 Speaker 2: I feel like we talked. We talk about things in 1733 01:26:34,560 --> 01:26:39,960 Speaker 2: this industry and in this sphere, and we have questions 1734 01:26:39,960 --> 01:26:45,960 Speaker 2: about things. And if you don't mention what I'm saying, 1735 01:26:46,680 --> 01:26:49,439 Speaker 2: you won't get the answers to why. All right, So say, 1736 01:26:49,479 --> 01:26:52,680 Speaker 2: for instance, R and B music right, R and B 1737 01:26:52,800 --> 01:26:57,320 Speaker 2: music today will never sound like R and B music sounded. 1738 01:26:58,680 --> 01:27:00,960 Speaker 5: Like you guys might like it or somebody else might 1739 01:27:01,040 --> 01:27:01,280 Speaker 5: like it. 1740 01:27:01,400 --> 01:27:06,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, because it's nobody from nineteen ninety two in the 1741 01:27:06,560 --> 01:27:10,160 Speaker 2: top ten chart, in the top ten on the charts 1742 01:27:10,520 --> 01:27:14,960 Speaker 2: in twenty one. Right, that's a conversation. I ain't got 1743 01:27:15,000 --> 01:27:17,519 Speaker 2: nothing to do it, Jamay getting no flowers. This is 1744 01:27:17,520 --> 01:27:20,120 Speaker 2: a conversation that you gotta be like. Guys, listen, you 1745 01:27:20,160 --> 01:27:25,439 Speaker 2: do realize the existence of R and B that we love. Whoever, 1746 01:27:25,640 --> 01:27:28,639 Speaker 2: maybe you don't if you don't like it. But that 1747 01:27:28,880 --> 01:27:33,519 Speaker 2: new audition Bobby Brown, I'll be sure Era, none of 1748 01:27:33,520 --> 01:27:38,599 Speaker 2: them producers are nowhere to be found, right, And that's 1749 01:27:38,640 --> 01:27:41,880 Speaker 2: what I'm saying. This is I'm saying, is we gotta 1750 01:27:41,920 --> 01:27:46,679 Speaker 2: start talking about this because people keep arguing about music 1751 01:27:46,760 --> 01:27:48,760 Speaker 2: like why R and B music ain't this good? And 1752 01:27:48,800 --> 01:27:53,320 Speaker 2: this is why. It's not because the artists ain't good. 1753 01:27:53,760 --> 01:27:56,840 Speaker 2: It's because the new artists they're not being trained by nobody. 1754 01:27:57,040 --> 01:28:00,320 Speaker 2: Because the people that train me ain't. You know my story. 1755 01:28:00,360 --> 01:28:04,879 Speaker 2: I said, I've ran into Babyface. Who's these people running into. 1756 01:28:05,240 --> 01:28:10,519 Speaker 4: But that's where producer tags and producers like Puff depending 1757 01:28:10,520 --> 01:28:12,719 Speaker 4: on how you view him as a producer them getting 1758 01:28:12,760 --> 01:28:14,920 Speaker 4: in front of shit. That's important because that keeps the 1759 01:28:15,080 --> 01:28:18,040 Speaker 4: legacy going. It makes the regular consumer, not the nerd 1760 01:28:18,120 --> 01:28:20,200 Speaker 4: like me that are looking the fucking album credits and 1761 01:28:20,280 --> 01:28:22,360 Speaker 4: know who did the New Edition shit. You have to 1762 01:28:22,400 --> 01:28:24,960 Speaker 4: be that producer that steps up and say, hey, I made. 1763 01:28:24,840 --> 01:28:25,639 Speaker 3: This fucking record. 1764 01:28:26,160 --> 01:28:28,320 Speaker 4: That's gonna keep you relevant because the younger artist is 1765 01:28:28,400 --> 01:28:29,320 Speaker 4: gonna be like, wait that shit. 1766 01:28:29,400 --> 01:28:31,040 Speaker 3: I grew up on JD did that shit? 1767 01:28:32,000 --> 01:28:35,160 Speaker 4: So you still one in New Addition stepped up and said, hey, 1768 01:28:35,200 --> 01:28:36,559 Speaker 4: I produced the New Addition shit. 1769 01:28:36,600 --> 01:28:38,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, but it didn't happen. But that's what I'm saying. 1770 01:28:38,120 --> 01:28:40,080 Speaker 3: You still just try to producer tags annoy the fuck 1771 01:28:40,120 --> 01:28:41,240 Speaker 3: out of me. But I get it. 1772 01:28:41,320 --> 01:28:43,519 Speaker 2: I totally get it. But I'm saying you still speaking 1773 01:28:43,520 --> 01:28:47,560 Speaker 2: about producer. I'm just speaking about the genre in itself, 1774 01:28:48,200 --> 01:28:49,680 Speaker 2: the genre in itself. 1775 01:28:50,400 --> 01:28:51,160 Speaker 3: What's the genre now? 1776 01:28:51,240 --> 01:28:53,920 Speaker 2: With R Kelly being gone, He's fifty percent of the 1777 01:28:54,040 --> 01:28:56,880 Speaker 2: R and B of R and B music that that 1778 01:28:57,040 --> 01:29:00,559 Speaker 2: was there, right, So then you had Me, you gonna 1779 01:29:00,560 --> 01:29:04,120 Speaker 2: have Puff, you have Dark Child, you have. 1780 01:29:05,760 --> 01:29:07,360 Speaker 3: Don't start naming because the we're gonna leave someone out. 1781 01:29:07,360 --> 01:29:07,920 Speaker 3: It's gonna get it. 1782 01:29:08,080 --> 01:29:10,639 Speaker 5: Well, you know, I I'm just saying. People know, I'm 1783 01:29:10,640 --> 01:29:12,000 Speaker 5: not saying what we know. 1784 01:29:12,080 --> 01:29:15,479 Speaker 2: But what I'm saying is all of these people was 1785 01:29:15,720 --> 01:29:19,200 Speaker 2: covering these this period of time. Right when you look 1786 01:29:19,240 --> 01:29:22,720 Speaker 2: at the charts now, you don't see any of them names, right. 1787 01:29:23,080 --> 01:29:25,840 Speaker 2: And that's what I posted the other day when I said, 1788 01:29:25,880 --> 01:29:28,439 Speaker 2: I'm saying like I wasn't dissing nobody, and I wasn't 1789 01:29:28,439 --> 01:29:32,040 Speaker 2: trying to throw no shots at nobody. I'm saying, God damn, 1790 01:29:32,120 --> 01:29:35,600 Speaker 2: I'm looking at the ship saying I came out in 1791 01:29:35,680 --> 01:29:37,800 Speaker 2: ninety two and I'm the only person. 1792 01:29:39,640 --> 01:29:40,519 Speaker 8: Right, I get it. 1793 01:29:40,560 --> 01:29:41,360 Speaker 2: But that's wow. 1794 01:29:41,479 --> 01:29:44,040 Speaker 4: Okay, But that's why versus important, and the conversation you 1795 01:29:44,160 --> 01:29:46,920 Speaker 4: have with puff is the next conversation we need to have. 1796 01:29:46,880 --> 01:29:49,680 Speaker 2: About versus gotta happen because because. 1797 01:29:50,400 --> 01:29:53,160 Speaker 3: I said this on the podcast prior to before we 1798 01:29:53,200 --> 01:29:53,839 Speaker 3: even sat. 1799 01:29:53,640 --> 01:29:55,679 Speaker 5: Down, drink that ship. 1800 01:29:57,439 --> 01:30:03,840 Speaker 4: I'm good, I'm cool, I'm good, good, I said, if 1801 01:30:03,840 --> 01:30:05,920 Speaker 4: we want to go through these verses conversations with producers, 1802 01:30:05,960 --> 01:30:07,400 Speaker 4: because that's what started that. 1803 01:30:08,320 --> 01:30:11,000 Speaker 7: Spicy was that because that ship felt a little spicy, 1804 01:30:11,320 --> 01:30:12,200 Speaker 7: like it was real. 1805 01:30:12,520 --> 01:30:15,280 Speaker 3: I'm gonna get to the ship like it was some 1806 01:30:15,360 --> 01:30:16,840 Speaker 3: ship being said, and I saw it. 1807 01:30:16,800 --> 01:30:19,720 Speaker 4: When it kind of got the three of us in 1808 01:30:19,720 --> 01:30:21,639 Speaker 4: the room, who can come out with a record without 1809 01:30:21,640 --> 01:30:22,400 Speaker 4: help the same. 1810 01:30:22,240 --> 01:30:24,479 Speaker 7: Way, the same way you were just talking, like wait, 1811 01:30:24,560 --> 01:30:26,960 Speaker 7: do you know like I saw something of that with 1812 01:30:27,000 --> 01:30:30,720 Speaker 7: the get your ship off right now, Like I saw 1813 01:30:30,800 --> 01:30:31,840 Speaker 7: pop sayings like what you gonna do? 1814 01:30:31,840 --> 01:30:32,040 Speaker 6: Play? 1815 01:30:32,040 --> 01:30:34,000 Speaker 7: A bunch of kid records played that, and I saw 1816 01:30:34,120 --> 01:30:36,640 Speaker 7: That's when you was like, wait, hold up, do you know? 1817 01:30:36,800 --> 01:30:37,160 Speaker 6: Like uh? 1818 01:30:38,000 --> 01:30:39,920 Speaker 8: And then you go and played the record and he 1819 01:30:40,040 --> 01:30:40,400 Speaker 8: was like. 1820 01:30:41,000 --> 01:30:43,479 Speaker 2: I wrote that. I say, you didn't write that. 1821 01:30:43,880 --> 01:30:45,880 Speaker 5: You didn't write you didn't write ship? 1822 01:30:46,439 --> 01:30:47,719 Speaker 2: How much of that was like real? 1823 01:30:48,120 --> 01:30:49,120 Speaker 5: That j D talking ship? 1824 01:30:49,200 --> 01:30:51,360 Speaker 7: And on top of that, because I know Dre's name 1825 01:30:51,400 --> 01:30:53,280 Speaker 7: was being thrown around in that a lot. Doctor Dre's 1826 01:30:53,320 --> 01:30:54,880 Speaker 7: name has been thrown around love did you and Drake 1827 01:30:54,920 --> 01:30:57,760 Speaker 7: squash that ship? Yeah, y'all talk y'all cool? 1828 01:30:58,560 --> 01:31:04,960 Speaker 1: I remember, but you know, interesting drinks, get to the 1829 01:31:05,000 --> 01:31:09,280 Speaker 1: puff ship? Interesting thing about he just say get. 1830 01:31:09,120 --> 01:31:16,960 Speaker 5: To the puff ship? Just I know it was just. 1831 01:31:17,439 --> 01:31:18,000 Speaker 2: Two hours ago. 1832 01:31:18,479 --> 01:31:20,599 Speaker 5: Don't you hold Why don't you put this in there? 1833 01:31:20,920 --> 01:31:25,920 Speaker 2: What put drink? Nor did we come from his drink? 1834 01:31:26,040 --> 01:31:27,880 Speaker 5: I wanted say they talking ship? You know why? Because 1835 01:31:27,880 --> 01:31:30,920 Speaker 5: he never, like j is so exactly And that's. 1836 01:31:30,840 --> 01:31:31,960 Speaker 2: What I'm saying a little bit. 1837 01:31:35,680 --> 01:31:38,559 Speaker 5: It's coming listen talking, listen, listen. 1838 01:31:39,080 --> 01:31:41,960 Speaker 2: That's what made me and Dre have a beef anyway, 1839 01:31:42,200 --> 01:31:44,360 Speaker 2: what you're saying, that's what I said in the x 1840 01:31:44,520 --> 01:31:47,280 Speaker 2: x L a while ago, and there was a Scratch magazine. 1841 01:31:47,320 --> 01:31:49,240 Speaker 2: I think I said that. I said, yo, if you can, 1842 01:31:49,960 --> 01:31:53,280 Speaker 2: if you put me, But it was it was about me, 1843 01:31:53,400 --> 01:31:55,439 Speaker 2: Timbling and Dre at the time. 1844 01:31:56,479 --> 01:31:58,599 Speaker 8: Timble is another one of those producers and Drayden. 1845 01:31:58,960 --> 01:32:02,519 Speaker 2: Drayden like the comment, and I you know, and then 1846 01:32:02,600 --> 01:32:04,960 Speaker 2: so Dre and and then Timberland was rocking with Dre 1847 01:32:05,040 --> 01:32:06,720 Speaker 2: at the time, so then both of them teamed up 1848 01:32:06,760 --> 01:32:11,840 Speaker 2: on me and basically did a diss record. But yeah, 1849 01:32:12,040 --> 01:32:14,559 Speaker 2: that conversation that we was having, it was very interesting 1850 01:32:14,560 --> 01:32:18,719 Speaker 2: to me because I'm like, you know, one, I fucked 1851 01:32:18,720 --> 01:32:23,880 Speaker 2: with puff and and versus never would make me not 1852 01:32:23,960 --> 01:32:26,120 Speaker 2: fuck with Puff Puff Puff Daddy's my man. 1853 01:32:26,600 --> 01:32:29,879 Speaker 5: He's Puff Dad, and. 1854 01:32:29,760 --> 01:32:32,160 Speaker 2: What he did and what he does and in this 1855 01:32:32,280 --> 01:32:34,920 Speaker 2: business is amazing and how he does it is amazing. 1856 01:32:36,760 --> 01:32:41,960 Speaker 2: But but when it comes to getting in this box 1857 01:32:42,840 --> 01:32:46,320 Speaker 2: and sitting in this motherfucking writing a song from scratch 1858 01:32:46,439 --> 01:32:51,559 Speaker 2: to finish, finding an artist, putting the artists on the song, 1859 01:32:51,640 --> 01:32:53,880 Speaker 2: and then finishing it and giving it to y'all as 1860 01:32:53,880 --> 01:32:58,679 Speaker 2: a product, I don't know. I don't know six people 1861 01:32:58,720 --> 01:33:01,800 Speaker 2: that y'all that people even mentioned today that do that. 1862 01:33:02,920 --> 01:33:04,120 Speaker 3: What do you what do you think? 1863 01:33:04,320 --> 01:33:06,160 Speaker 2: I don't know six of them all? Right now? 1864 01:33:07,320 --> 01:33:10,080 Speaker 4: What can I can I ask a question? 1865 01:33:10,120 --> 01:33:10,840 Speaker 3: I know you want to answer? 1866 01:33:11,000 --> 01:33:13,120 Speaker 5: How you talk right now? I like to. 1867 01:33:16,720 --> 01:33:19,080 Speaker 4: What you think Dre Lack, what you think, Swiz lack, 1868 01:33:19,120 --> 01:33:21,439 Speaker 4: what you think, Tim lack, what you think Puff Black? 1869 01:33:21,840 --> 01:33:24,240 Speaker 4: Where they can't everybody? 1870 01:33:25,040 --> 01:33:25,719 Speaker 6: I want. 1871 01:33:27,479 --> 01:33:27,840 Speaker 2: A question. 1872 01:33:29,000 --> 01:33:30,559 Speaker 5: I'm not I'm not. 1873 01:33:30,720 --> 01:33:32,840 Speaker 2: I'm not saying that. I'm not saying a la It's 1874 01:33:32,880 --> 01:33:34,840 Speaker 2: not a lack. It's just a thing that they don't. 1875 01:33:34,960 --> 01:33:37,559 Speaker 2: I don't think they cared about doing these things. By 1876 01:33:37,560 --> 01:33:39,479 Speaker 2: the way, I told you at the beginning of this, 1877 01:33:40,240 --> 01:33:42,600 Speaker 2: I might not have wanted to be a writer, but 1878 01:33:42,680 --> 01:33:43,759 Speaker 2: I ain't have no choice. 1879 01:33:43,880 --> 01:33:47,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think Dre had a choice circumstances. 1880 01:33:47,200 --> 01:33:50,040 Speaker 2: You know, you had Snoop Dogg around. You got Snoop Dogg, 1881 01:33:50,160 --> 01:33:52,800 Speaker 2: d O c around you like I got a rightful 1882 01:33:52,880 --> 01:33:57,320 Speaker 2: I'm not going you know what I mean? Puff was 1883 01:33:58,680 --> 01:34:00,600 Speaker 2: from a different way. That way he did it. I 1884 01:34:00,640 --> 01:34:03,200 Speaker 2: don't know that he cared the right he had Davante 1885 01:34:03,160 --> 01:34:04,840 Speaker 2: a Ryan you got you know what I mean? You 1886 01:34:04,920 --> 01:34:07,360 Speaker 2: got you got all these you got, I'll be sure 1887 01:34:07,400 --> 01:34:09,680 Speaker 2: you got all these people you got, you got all 1888 01:34:09,720 --> 01:34:12,200 Speaker 2: these different things that you can pull from. I just 1889 01:34:12,240 --> 01:34:14,280 Speaker 2: feel like I don't know if they I don't know 1890 01:34:14,320 --> 01:34:15,360 Speaker 2: if they lack it. 1891 01:34:15,479 --> 01:34:16,280 Speaker 5: I just feel like. 1892 01:34:16,320 --> 01:34:20,280 Speaker 2: They have They was in a position that didn't call 1893 01:34:20,439 --> 01:34:23,040 Speaker 2: for them to do that. You understand I'm saying with like, 1894 01:34:23,080 --> 01:34:26,240 Speaker 2: same thing with Timbland Tembling had Missie, what you're gonna do? 1895 01:34:27,280 --> 01:34:31,960 Speaker 2: You try to outrite her? I got, I got something 1896 01:34:32,000 --> 01:34:35,439 Speaker 2: for you. Let me hear what you got, right, you 1897 01:34:35,520 --> 01:34:37,679 Speaker 2: know what I mean? I didn't have that. I didn't 1898 01:34:37,720 --> 01:34:42,320 Speaker 2: have that. That that that luxury to have somebody just 1899 01:34:42,360 --> 01:34:45,560 Speaker 2: sitting in the room, that's amazing and be like you 1900 01:34:45,640 --> 01:34:48,000 Speaker 2: may here you go, here go a song. I'm sitting 1901 01:34:48,040 --> 01:34:54,280 Speaker 2: in the room by myself and I'm like, ship, Okay, 1902 01:34:54,439 --> 01:34:55,639 Speaker 2: I'm gonna do this. Ship. 1903 01:34:55,720 --> 01:34:56,759 Speaker 3: I gotta make sure. 1904 01:34:56,840 --> 01:34:58,400 Speaker 2: I'm thinking I hear something, you know what I'm saying. 1905 01:34:58,400 --> 01:35:02,719 Speaker 2: But so but that that I felt like, I feel 1906 01:35:02,720 --> 01:35:05,680 Speaker 2: like when we start the way versus is now right 1907 01:35:06,280 --> 01:35:09,439 Speaker 2: and it's a performance and it's people on stage and 1908 01:35:09,439 --> 01:35:11,080 Speaker 2: people doing what they gotta do. 1909 01:35:11,080 --> 01:35:12,479 Speaker 5: You know who made it that way though? Right? 1910 01:35:12,920 --> 01:35:16,240 Speaker 2: Yeah? I actually started that with him and Soldier Boy 1911 01:35:16,960 --> 01:35:19,640 Speaker 2: with the with the actually really performed. 1912 01:35:19,200 --> 01:35:23,960 Speaker 3: When behind him in the video. No no, no for that. 1913 01:35:23,920 --> 01:35:27,280 Speaker 5: Was that was like the you know what I'm saying 1914 01:35:27,640 --> 01:35:28,080 Speaker 5: the way. 1915 01:35:30,479 --> 01:35:33,559 Speaker 10: Because the ship that motherfuckers don't know is when Jermaine 1916 01:35:33,640 --> 01:35:36,599 Speaker 10: was like, man, it's an official y'all really, my nigga, 1917 01:35:36,640 --> 01:35:39,080 Speaker 10: we about to really do it. Yeah, So Jermaine was like, yok, 1918 01:35:39,520 --> 01:35:42,599 Speaker 10: you ain't gonna be able to perform like that got energy, 1919 01:35:42,680 --> 01:35:43,479 Speaker 10: that ain't. 1920 01:35:43,320 --> 01:35:45,080 Speaker 5: Gonna I'm like, Jadi, listen, I ain't gonna sign up 1921 01:35:45,080 --> 01:35:45,240 Speaker 5: for this. 1922 01:35:45,240 --> 01:35:49,360 Speaker 10: Motherfucker. I can't perform. I gotta perform. That's my specialty. 1923 01:35:49,680 --> 01:35:51,240 Speaker 10: I got to show the world. Remind him what we 1924 01:35:51,320 --> 01:35:54,080 Speaker 10: just talked about. Right, Niggas can get quickly in this 1925 01:35:54,160 --> 01:35:56,800 Speaker 10: day in the age. Right, So I'm like, look, I'm 1926 01:35:56,840 --> 01:35:58,880 Speaker 10: not even gonna do it. If I can't do it, 1927 01:35:58,880 --> 01:36:02,519 Speaker 10: how I do it? Soon we did it. Niggas really 1928 01:36:02,640 --> 01:36:04,519 Speaker 10: had no choice. And I think after that, that's what 1929 01:36:04,640 --> 01:36:07,280 Speaker 10: I told Tim at puff House when we face times you. 1930 01:36:07,320 --> 01:36:08,120 Speaker 5: When I was at puff. 1931 01:36:07,960 --> 01:36:10,559 Speaker 2: House, by the way, cut you off. 1932 01:36:10,560 --> 01:36:12,400 Speaker 10: I said, Tim, I changed the landscape, but this versushit. 1933 01:36:12,439 --> 01:36:14,240 Speaker 10: Niggas gotta perform there any rapper that come. 1934 01:36:14,160 --> 01:36:16,280 Speaker 2: Out first, Lenna, give you a flowers. They got it. 1935 01:36:16,400 --> 01:36:18,160 Speaker 5: They gotta fucking perform. 1936 01:36:18,240 --> 01:36:20,120 Speaker 2: That's another That's another one I want to talk about. 1937 01:36:20,160 --> 01:36:23,280 Speaker 2: I don't be like like Jad, you just bitter. I'm 1938 01:36:23,280 --> 01:36:26,320 Speaker 2: not bitter. Listen, but I will say this, you're not 1939 01:36:26,320 --> 01:36:27,880 Speaker 2: going on popping ship ship. 1940 01:36:28,520 --> 01:36:31,880 Speaker 5: I ain't even been drinking. I'm just popping ship I'm chilling. 1941 01:36:32,439 --> 01:36:35,640 Speaker 2: And Soldier Boy still have had one numbers than the 1942 01:36:35,760 --> 01:36:38,200 Speaker 2: last four verses that came out. 1943 01:36:38,200 --> 01:36:42,000 Speaker 5: And I don't care how many artists they just had performed. 1944 01:36:42,640 --> 01:36:46,360 Speaker 2: These niggas had six hundred and fifty thousand people in their. 1945 01:36:46,280 --> 01:36:50,040 Speaker 4: Room, I mean Sodier Boy, and they come from the 1946 01:36:50,080 --> 01:36:52,040 Speaker 4: Internet era. They were the first two artists. 1947 01:36:52,280 --> 01:36:57,000 Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. Why mention it? You had three 1948 01:36:57,120 --> 01:37:00,880 Speaker 2: six Mafia and the whole hip hop commute unity and 1949 01:37:00,960 --> 01:37:02,639 Speaker 2: they ain't bust four hundred thousand? 1950 01:37:02,720 --> 01:37:04,559 Speaker 4: Can I put it this way? We know how fickle 1951 01:37:04,640 --> 01:37:06,360 Speaker 4: the Internet is, right? The Internet is the most fick 1952 01:37:06,360 --> 01:37:06,960 Speaker 4: a place on earth. 1953 01:37:07,400 --> 01:37:11,599 Speaker 3: If bow Wow and Soldier Boy or the godfathers of it, 1954 01:37:11,800 --> 01:37:13,040 Speaker 3: what do you think is gonna happen? 1955 01:37:13,560 --> 01:37:14,120 Speaker 5: I get it. 1956 01:37:14,200 --> 01:37:17,599 Speaker 4: I just saying they're not gonna be because the Internet 1957 01:37:17,640 --> 01:37:20,000 Speaker 4: moves so quick, they're gonna forget. They're gonna forget their 1958 01:37:20,040 --> 01:37:22,479 Speaker 4: forefathers until it's tomb mention. 1959 01:37:23,200 --> 01:37:26,080 Speaker 2: Say, it ain't like I said. It ain't even like 1960 01:37:26,479 --> 01:37:29,640 Speaker 2: you're not giving nobody no flowers. This is real numbers. 1961 01:37:30,040 --> 01:37:32,680 Speaker 2: It ain't like I'm saying, like, hey guys, look we 1962 01:37:32,840 --> 01:37:36,639 Speaker 2: out here selling records. No, I know that's going. 1963 01:37:36,479 --> 01:37:39,160 Speaker 3: On, right, I'm saying the Internet is so fucking fickle. 1964 01:37:39,240 --> 01:37:41,760 Speaker 4: Of course they'll forget their godfathers and not try to 1965 01:37:41,760 --> 01:37:44,479 Speaker 4: fucking promote them and give them their actual flowers. 1966 01:37:44,479 --> 01:37:46,080 Speaker 5: I just know I believe. 1967 01:37:46,320 --> 01:37:47,320 Speaker 3: Let me ask you more for that. 1968 01:37:47,520 --> 01:37:48,120 Speaker 5: Let me ask you this. 1969 01:37:48,320 --> 01:37:50,800 Speaker 2: You think I was from New York, he'll have more 1970 01:37:51,360 --> 01:37:54,600 Speaker 2: publicity about what he does, as far as. 1971 01:37:54,960 --> 01:37:59,240 Speaker 5: It'll be the same, uh bigger than Yeah. 1972 01:37:59,240 --> 01:38:01,240 Speaker 4: But I'm saying to thinking hours from New York, I 1973 01:38:01,240 --> 01:38:03,000 Speaker 4: don't think you would have approached his career the same way. 1974 01:38:03,000 --> 01:38:04,720 Speaker 4: And I don't think it would have been the same way. 1975 01:38:04,960 --> 01:38:05,840 Speaker 3: So I don't even know if. 1976 01:38:05,720 --> 01:38:08,120 Speaker 2: You get to this point here, but you're looking at 1977 01:38:08,160 --> 01:38:10,479 Speaker 2: I'm talking about, you know what I'm talking about. I'm saying, 1978 01:38:11,120 --> 01:38:13,920 Speaker 2: I just feel I just feel like we I feel 1979 01:38:13,920 --> 01:38:18,000 Speaker 2: like it's a piece missing to Southern hip hop, right. 1980 01:38:18,400 --> 01:38:21,960 Speaker 2: And I feel like when accolades come in Southern hip hop, 1981 01:38:22,560 --> 01:38:26,840 Speaker 2: it's not looked at on the same level as others, 1982 01:38:27,000 --> 01:38:30,000 Speaker 2: as those that come from New York and LA. By 1983 01:38:30,040 --> 01:38:32,280 Speaker 2: the way, I feel like it's I feel like it's 1984 01:38:32,320 --> 01:38:34,200 Speaker 2: definitely looked at on a difference. 1985 01:38:34,320 --> 01:38:34,800 Speaker 8: I feel like a. 1986 01:38:34,840 --> 01:38:37,760 Speaker 7: Boo was different though, because he came in so young, right, 1987 01:38:37,840 --> 01:38:41,599 Speaker 7: and the content now is so violent and you know, 1988 01:38:41,760 --> 01:38:45,240 Speaker 7: drug use and shit like that, and it'll be hard 1989 01:38:45,320 --> 01:38:47,360 Speaker 7: for us to accept bow Wow net because it's. 1990 01:38:47,240 --> 01:38:48,519 Speaker 8: Like, Nigga, we watched you grow up. 1991 01:38:48,640 --> 01:38:51,840 Speaker 7: You can't start talking like crazy like these new artists 1992 01:38:51,840 --> 01:38:54,200 Speaker 7: as coming up out of the streets because we watched 1993 01:38:54,200 --> 01:38:58,439 Speaker 7: you from twelve thirteen, fourteen, movie star hostings all of 1994 01:38:58,479 --> 01:39:00,360 Speaker 7: these things, like you've been out of here, you've been 1995 01:39:00,400 --> 01:39:01,799 Speaker 7: in another superstar forever. 1996 01:39:02,240 --> 01:39:03,000 Speaker 8: So now it's like. 1997 01:39:02,960 --> 01:39:07,120 Speaker 7: The content and what these younger kids want is more grimy, 1998 01:39:07,160 --> 01:39:10,800 Speaker 7: it's more street, it's more violent, like they want that. 1999 01:39:11,040 --> 01:39:13,240 Speaker 7: But you know that ain't true though, as far as 2000 01:39:13,240 --> 01:39:15,840 Speaker 7: what most of it ain't true. Oh no, what they're saying, No, 2001 01:39:15,920 --> 01:39:17,559 Speaker 7: we know that. But I'm just saying from about they're 2002 01:39:17,560 --> 01:39:18,640 Speaker 7: not going to read except. 2003 01:39:18,800 --> 01:39:21,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think we're in the era of kids telling 2004 01:39:21,240 --> 01:39:21,639 Speaker 3: the truth. 2005 01:39:22,640 --> 01:39:24,200 Speaker 5: And there it is. He just gave me to the points. 2006 01:39:25,600 --> 01:39:27,479 Speaker 3: I think the kid the kid rapper has changed. 2007 01:39:27,840 --> 01:39:31,120 Speaker 5: It has It's like, no, I have these. 2008 01:39:31,040 --> 01:39:33,639 Speaker 3: Kids from Chicago are fourteen and they're talking. They're really doing. 2009 01:39:33,720 --> 01:39:36,200 Speaker 5: I have to bring this up right, but you know 2010 01:39:36,240 --> 01:39:38,080 Speaker 5: it's more real than just killing it all that type 2011 01:39:38,080 --> 01:39:39,960 Speaker 5: of that's true, but you know I have to bring 2012 01:39:40,000 --> 01:39:43,160 Speaker 5: this up right? What Okay, go there? 2013 01:39:43,160 --> 01:39:44,040 Speaker 2: You know how to bring this up? 2014 01:39:44,120 --> 01:39:45,439 Speaker 5: Go there? That's true. 2015 01:39:46,280 --> 01:39:47,920 Speaker 2: I mean, go there. 2016 01:39:48,800 --> 01:39:50,599 Speaker 3: It sounds like me and my posit. Thanks getting. 2017 01:39:52,240 --> 01:39:56,280 Speaker 2: No, I'm just saying, you know, I had a little 2018 01:39:56,320 --> 01:39:58,080 Speaker 2: TV show called The Rap Game, right. 2019 01:39:59,640 --> 01:40:01,679 Speaker 5: The fir. This person who won was miss Mulatto. 2020 01:40:01,760 --> 01:40:02,520 Speaker 2: I remember. 2021 01:40:03,880 --> 01:40:06,040 Speaker 3: Shout Mulatto or a lotto. 2022 01:40:06,120 --> 01:40:10,519 Speaker 2: Now that's three different people you just name, right? You 2023 01:40:10,560 --> 01:40:11,360 Speaker 2: do realize that? 2024 01:40:13,040 --> 01:40:18,679 Speaker 8: No, how was it three different people? 2025 01:40:18,920 --> 01:40:21,080 Speaker 5: I mean, you ain't catch what I just said. 2026 01:40:21,760 --> 01:40:22,519 Speaker 3: Triple on Tandra. 2027 01:40:23,640 --> 01:40:25,040 Speaker 5: It could be a double on Tangra, but. 2028 01:40:25,000 --> 01:40:28,640 Speaker 2: No, it's three different people. If you watched on my show, okay, 2029 01:40:28,800 --> 01:40:31,599 Speaker 2: she wasn't the girl that you see now, okay, okay, 2030 01:40:31,600 --> 01:40:32,040 Speaker 2: all right. 2031 01:40:32,080 --> 01:40:36,160 Speaker 3: Right, I thought you John telling me like. 2032 01:40:34,800 --> 01:40:37,120 Speaker 5: She went from Miss Mulatto to. 2033 01:40:39,439 --> 01:40:45,800 Speaker 2: Big Little Lotto to Big Lotto right now, she's whatever whatever. 2034 01:40:45,520 --> 01:40:47,760 Speaker 3: But cancel culture did that to some degree. 2035 01:40:48,000 --> 01:40:51,519 Speaker 2: Okay, But I'm just saying, when you watch it, do 2036 01:40:51,560 --> 01:40:54,760 Speaker 2: you you know nobody speaks on what they've seen. They 2037 01:40:54,840 --> 01:41:01,920 Speaker 2: watched this people, you watched this girl be what she 2038 01:41:03,240 --> 01:41:06,200 Speaker 2: says she is now that you know you didn't see her. 2039 01:41:06,600 --> 01:41:07,400 Speaker 8: That's what you're saying. 2040 01:41:07,439 --> 01:41:10,240 Speaker 5: You've seen this, you watched it. 2041 01:41:10,280 --> 01:41:12,559 Speaker 2: So I don't know that when you say that about 2042 01:41:12,560 --> 01:41:14,200 Speaker 2: if ba I was doing it, I don't know why, 2043 01:41:14,280 --> 01:41:18,920 Speaker 2: but that's not what I would Yeah, I wouldn't even 2044 01:41:18,960 --> 01:41:21,360 Speaker 2: suggest him to do that dumb anyway. But I'm saying, 2045 01:41:22,120 --> 01:41:25,840 Speaker 2: I'm watching people watch people do this and don't care. 2046 01:41:26,080 --> 01:41:28,880 Speaker 4: But you feel a lot of I don't feel like 2047 01:41:28,920 --> 01:41:31,519 Speaker 4: she talk about some wild shit that we wouldn't believe 2048 01:41:31,680 --> 01:41:33,599 Speaker 4: she would have done after that show. 2049 01:41:34,520 --> 01:41:36,439 Speaker 3: Did she say some shit? Then maybe I missed it 2050 01:41:37,240 --> 01:41:38,679 Speaker 3: in a degree of like what come. 2051 01:41:38,600 --> 01:41:41,679 Speaker 2: On after the show. But I'm saying you basically watched 2052 01:41:41,720 --> 01:41:44,960 Speaker 2: her grow up on that TV show. That's what I'm saying, 2053 01:41:45,040 --> 01:41:47,880 Speaker 2: Like you do realize like the first season when she 2054 01:41:48,040 --> 01:41:51,080 Speaker 2: won I brought her back on the second season to 2055 01:41:52,240 --> 01:41:55,680 Speaker 2: rock with the second one? Yeah, so therefore did you 2056 01:41:55,760 --> 01:41:57,679 Speaker 2: hear her talking the way she was talking at that time? 2057 01:41:57,840 --> 01:42:00,680 Speaker 2: I'm not writing the raps, know what I'm saying. This 2058 01:42:00,720 --> 01:42:02,439 Speaker 2: is a second this is a new year. By the way, 2059 01:42:03,040 --> 01:42:05,800 Speaker 2: the third year, I brought her back again, and we 2060 01:42:05,880 --> 01:42:06,719 Speaker 2: have all three. 2061 01:42:06,920 --> 01:42:09,160 Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, start having all three winners. 2062 01:42:11,200 --> 01:42:12,240 Speaker 5: Did you hear a rap like that? 2063 01:42:12,360 --> 01:42:12,559 Speaker 6: Then? 2064 01:42:13,240 --> 01:42:13,320 Speaker 2: No? 2065 01:42:13,680 --> 01:42:15,040 Speaker 5: Right, there's nothing wrong with it. 2066 01:42:15,120 --> 01:42:19,320 Speaker 2: What I'm saying is the audience is watching this and 2067 01:42:19,400 --> 01:42:22,880 Speaker 2: allowing you to do whatever the fuck you're Okay, you 2068 01:42:22,920 --> 01:42:23,840 Speaker 2: know you see what I'm saying. 2069 01:42:23,880 --> 01:42:26,519 Speaker 3: They don't, you know, I mean her defense. I've been 2070 01:42:26,560 --> 01:42:29,920 Speaker 3: in studio with I've watched her right rap. 2071 01:42:32,280 --> 01:42:33,400 Speaker 2: From the jump she. 2072 01:42:35,479 --> 01:42:37,960 Speaker 5: I said she was the winner, like rap, But you're 2073 01:42:37,960 --> 01:42:39,920 Speaker 5: not always blame that. I don't understand. In this time 2074 01:42:39,960 --> 01:42:41,400 Speaker 5: of age though, it's just on it. 2075 01:42:41,400 --> 01:42:43,720 Speaker 10: It's different eras like with basketball, like JD like right 2076 01:42:43,760 --> 01:42:46,360 Speaker 10: now it's niggas that I feel like Steth Curik better 2077 01:42:46,400 --> 01:42:47,679 Speaker 10: than Jordan mm hmm. 2078 01:42:48,640 --> 01:42:50,360 Speaker 5: Just a plumb of what they see. You know what 2079 01:42:50,360 --> 01:42:50,720 Speaker 5: I'm saying. 2080 01:42:50,720 --> 01:42:51,800 Speaker 8: They don't know what they're talking about. 2081 01:42:51,840 --> 01:42:53,920 Speaker 3: But but they like the three pointer more than they 2082 01:42:53,960 --> 01:42:55,280 Speaker 3: love the Actually, it's. 2083 01:42:55,120 --> 01:42:57,439 Speaker 5: Like it's changing the new wave of the game, you 2084 01:42:57,479 --> 01:42:57,880 Speaker 5: know what I mean. 2085 01:42:57,880 --> 01:43:00,800 Speaker 10: And it's like, but I mean when the I feel 2086 01:43:00,840 --> 01:43:03,599 Speaker 10: like if one thing can can end that though. 2087 01:43:03,880 --> 01:43:06,040 Speaker 2: That's the thing about basketball. That's why don't even understand 2088 01:43:06,040 --> 01:43:09,880 Speaker 2: that whole conversation. But it's true, No, it's not. Because 2089 01:43:09,920 --> 01:43:11,760 Speaker 2: it's like, if you listen. 2090 01:43:11,960 --> 01:43:16,040 Speaker 10: My dog right now on SHOT's Christmas list was down there, 2091 01:43:16,040 --> 01:43:19,160 Speaker 10: I want some air jorwdan ones. She got all the motherfuckers, 2092 01:43:19,160 --> 01:43:21,400 Speaker 10: but she want more. If I say that, what do 2093 01:43:21,439 --> 01:43:24,120 Speaker 10: Michael Jordan do? What she's gonna say shoes? Mm hm, 2094 01:43:24,479 --> 01:43:27,200 Speaker 10: you know what I'm saying. So it's like it's still 2095 01:43:27,240 --> 01:43:30,240 Speaker 10: the substance in DNA of what have you done for 2096 01:43:30,280 --> 01:43:30,719 Speaker 10: me lately? 2097 01:43:30,760 --> 01:43:33,519 Speaker 5: That's how the whole game is. That's what this whole time. Yeah, 2098 01:43:33,520 --> 01:43:35,440 Speaker 5: but we're. 2099 01:43:34,560 --> 01:43:36,439 Speaker 2: Not talking about We're not talking about that. You're going 2100 01:43:37,160 --> 01:43:40,800 Speaker 2: let's go man for man at the end of the day. 2101 01:43:41,960 --> 01:43:46,479 Speaker 2: If the finals come and as good as Steph Curry is. 2102 01:43:47,439 --> 01:43:48,479 Speaker 5: It's Katie in the picture. 2103 01:43:48,560 --> 01:43:51,760 Speaker 2: He don't win the championship. Ain't no need for you 2104 01:43:51,800 --> 01:43:53,800 Speaker 2: to even have the conversation about him being better than 2105 01:43:53,880 --> 01:43:56,960 Speaker 2: Jordan's because we don't seen Jordan be putting that same 2106 01:43:57,200 --> 01:43:58,479 Speaker 2: hot box and he wins. 2107 01:43:58,720 --> 01:44:01,040 Speaker 8: For the record, nobody's better than Michael Jordan. That's just. 2108 01:44:01,280 --> 01:44:04,640 Speaker 3: But we've also seen one. We've seen Braun lose and 2109 01:44:04,680 --> 01:44:05,360 Speaker 3: still calling. 2110 01:44:05,200 --> 01:44:07,320 Speaker 2: The goat's error. 2111 01:44:07,400 --> 01:44:10,880 Speaker 3: We've seen bronis right now. 2112 01:44:11,800 --> 01:44:14,040 Speaker 4: We've seen Braun lose a couple of times, and he's 2113 01:44:14,040 --> 01:44:15,280 Speaker 4: still a goat to a lot of That's it. 2114 01:44:15,439 --> 01:44:21,400 Speaker 2: You know why tell me? You know went to three 2115 01:44:21,439 --> 01:44:24,240 Speaker 2: different teams. He took them to the championship. I don't know 2116 01:44:24,280 --> 01:44:27,920 Speaker 2: about it, Michael j Just a matter of fact, I'm 2117 01:44:27,920 --> 01:44:33,440 Speaker 2: saying that in itself to me, makes Lebron James a goat. 2118 01:44:33,760 --> 01:44:37,799 Speaker 2: He is the goats because he took three different teams 2119 01:44:37,800 --> 01:44:41,639 Speaker 2: to the championship and nay one. I don't know nobody 2120 01:44:41,640 --> 01:44:44,200 Speaker 2: that did that. Michael Jordan left the Bulls. It was 2121 01:44:44,240 --> 01:44:47,880 Speaker 2: over with right, came back three, Peter, you know what 2122 01:44:47,920 --> 01:44:50,360 Speaker 2: I mean. Like what I'm saying when he left the 2123 01:44:50,360 --> 01:44:52,960 Speaker 2: Bulls and went to Washington, I'm just saying, you know 2124 01:44:53,000 --> 01:44:55,280 Speaker 2: what I mean, that was fun though, that was fun. 2125 01:44:55,640 --> 01:44:58,519 Speaker 2: I'm just saying, still, you gotta give Lebron that for 2126 01:44:58,560 --> 01:45:01,760 Speaker 2: that right. I just feel like it's always about It's 2127 01:45:01,800 --> 01:45:03,800 Speaker 2: always a thing like when you when you say that 2128 01:45:03,960 --> 01:45:08,519 Speaker 2: who's better than who? It's one thing that already can 2129 01:45:08,560 --> 01:45:12,400 Speaker 2: always say like yeah, but have you done this right? 2130 01:45:12,439 --> 01:45:14,040 Speaker 2: It's the same thing like with Hope. Right, I was 2131 01:45:15,160 --> 01:45:21,960 Speaker 2: watching I was watching uh because I'm just getting ready 2132 01:45:21,960 --> 01:45:27,680 Speaker 2: to say something. I was watching. I was watching the 2133 01:45:27,720 --> 01:45:33,720 Speaker 2: Hall of Fame and even for me, a person that's 2134 01:45:33,760 --> 01:45:37,160 Speaker 2: been around hole before, Hope was what people know Hope 2135 01:45:37,240 --> 01:45:45,559 Speaker 2: is now to hear them say this, Leapers got more 2136 01:45:45,600 --> 01:45:50,799 Speaker 2: nominations Grammy nominations than any artist ever. Why do rappers 2137 01:45:50,880 --> 01:45:52,200 Speaker 2: keep saying they with him? 2138 01:45:52,760 --> 01:45:52,960 Speaker 6: Right? 2139 01:45:54,000 --> 01:45:56,040 Speaker 5: This is what I'm saying, Like what. 2140 01:45:57,400 --> 01:46:00,360 Speaker 2: You can feel that up? 2141 01:46:00,400 --> 01:46:05,840 Speaker 10: But sometimes ain't gonna be okay. 2142 01:46:05,640 --> 01:46:06,160 Speaker 3: A lot of times. 2143 01:46:09,560 --> 01:46:11,439 Speaker 2: But I'm saying, okay, now we like to get back 2144 01:46:11,439 --> 01:46:14,920 Speaker 2: to the conversation anyway. That that I just feel like. 2145 01:46:17,160 --> 01:46:19,360 Speaker 8: Says the puff is the puff versus happening. 2146 01:46:19,720 --> 01:46:20,360 Speaker 2: I don't think so. 2147 01:46:20,720 --> 01:46:21,040 Speaker 8: Why not? 2148 01:46:21,680 --> 01:46:24,840 Speaker 2: Because I feel like it's it's it's it's it's a 2149 01:46:24,880 --> 01:46:30,000 Speaker 2: performance based thing now and the majority of Puff records, 2150 01:46:30,280 --> 01:46:32,280 Speaker 2: who's gonna perform? 2151 01:46:32,560 --> 01:46:34,280 Speaker 8: I mean, you can bring people out on stage. That's 2152 01:46:34,280 --> 01:46:35,680 Speaker 8: part of the performance is. 2153 01:46:35,640 --> 01:46:37,559 Speaker 2: One of the greatest lot former You can't nobody do 2154 01:46:37,640 --> 01:46:40,559 Speaker 2: big verses. And I don't know that Mace would come 2155 01:46:40,560 --> 01:46:43,200 Speaker 2: out with him no more, right, so, so I don't 2156 01:46:43,200 --> 01:46:43,439 Speaker 2: know that. 2157 01:46:43,560 --> 01:46:45,760 Speaker 5: I don't think it would happen based on that. 2158 01:46:45,960 --> 01:46:48,360 Speaker 8: Yeah, I would love to see that though. 2159 01:46:48,800 --> 01:46:51,120 Speaker 2: All my people were rocking, you know, that's you know 2160 01:46:51,120 --> 01:46:55,519 Speaker 2: what I mean, And and we're coming with a whole 2161 01:46:55,520 --> 01:46:56,200 Speaker 2: lot of energy. 2162 01:46:56,479 --> 01:46:58,479 Speaker 7: So that was something that was something on that on 2163 01:46:58,520 --> 01:47:00,240 Speaker 7: that I G Live thing with you and Puff that 2164 01:47:00,560 --> 01:47:02,880 Speaker 7: I kind of noticed. I was like, I think that 2165 01:47:02,920 --> 01:47:06,920 Speaker 7: people just really don't know the extent of JD's like 2166 01:47:07,240 --> 01:47:11,000 Speaker 7: producing the songwriting, Like we know obviously the big hits 2167 01:47:11,479 --> 01:47:14,760 Speaker 7: or some people know the big big hits, but even 2168 01:47:14,760 --> 01:47:15,760 Speaker 7: in things Puff was saying. 2169 01:47:15,800 --> 01:47:18,280 Speaker 8: I was like, Puff ain't given JD enough credit right now. 2170 01:47:18,120 --> 01:47:22,840 Speaker 2: But also Puff also Puff was and not Puff and 2171 01:47:23,040 --> 01:47:28,080 Speaker 2: anybody else that thinks about this battle, they actually try 2172 01:47:28,120 --> 01:47:32,840 Speaker 2: to downplay the bow Wow era, right, Yeah, when we 2173 01:47:32,880 --> 01:47:36,920 Speaker 2: get into the two thousand ones, two thousand and twos, 2174 01:47:37,000 --> 01:47:40,960 Speaker 2: two thousand and three era of soci death, I don't 2175 01:47:41,000 --> 01:47:45,519 Speaker 2: know that bad Boy was even in existence sure personally, Yeah. 2176 01:47:45,960 --> 01:47:46,880 Speaker 3: I mean, I know what you mean. 2177 01:47:46,960 --> 01:47:47,479 Speaker 2: I don't know. 2178 01:47:49,200 --> 01:47:51,040 Speaker 3: I mean I never seen a bad boy, but it 2179 01:47:51,080 --> 01:47:52,599 Speaker 3: wasn't of course, I never seen a bad. 2180 01:47:52,479 --> 01:47:56,000 Speaker 5: Boy record number one on one on six part. 2181 01:47:55,320 --> 01:47:55,840 Speaker 3: At that time. 2182 01:47:56,000 --> 01:47:57,559 Speaker 4: No, but that's not fair because I mean they had 2183 01:47:57,600 --> 01:48:00,400 Speaker 4: their era and as a lot of labels do they 2184 01:48:00,479 --> 01:48:01,720 Speaker 4: move on and have to know, you. 2185 01:48:01,640 --> 01:48:03,880 Speaker 2: Can't say that's not fair. We're talking about going against me. 2186 01:48:03,960 --> 01:48:06,360 Speaker 2: It's not fair against other people. You're talking about meat up. 2187 01:48:06,520 --> 01:48:10,080 Speaker 2: Get you what you can do about me to say that, 2188 01:48:11,320 --> 01:48:12,120 Speaker 2: you know what I thought. 2189 01:48:12,000 --> 01:48:17,360 Speaker 5: It was gonna be like me, it's going viral. I'm 2190 01:48:17,400 --> 01:48:22,439 Speaker 5: just smoking what I'm saying. 2191 01:48:22,479 --> 01:48:26,320 Speaker 2: You said right now here right, I'm saying this right 2192 01:48:26,360 --> 01:48:30,559 Speaker 2: now for anybody that's challenging me. Right, you gotta challenge me. 2193 01:48:30,600 --> 01:48:33,840 Speaker 2: We're gonna go through. We're gonna start when we start, right. 2194 01:48:34,200 --> 01:48:37,120 Speaker 2: Just say we started in the ninety We started in 2195 01:48:37,240 --> 01:48:41,120 Speaker 2: ninety four, okay, right, and me and Puff went head 2196 01:48:41,240 --> 01:48:44,559 Speaker 2: up ninety four, ninety five, ninety six, ninety seven, ninety nine, 2197 01:48:45,280 --> 01:48:47,080 Speaker 2: two thousand, two thousand and one. 2198 01:48:48,560 --> 01:48:50,599 Speaker 5: That's what ship starts getting dark at. 2199 01:48:51,120 --> 01:48:53,320 Speaker 2: Okay, that's what it's gonna start getting dark. 2200 01:48:53,479 --> 01:48:58,120 Speaker 8: But someone argue that Puff has enough from the nineties. 2201 01:48:59,800 --> 01:49:00,840 Speaker 3: To kind of to make it. 2202 01:49:00,800 --> 01:49:02,840 Speaker 7: A fight, to make that look like you gotta look 2203 01:49:02,840 --> 01:49:05,439 Speaker 7: at y'all going twenty, gonna be me, y'all going twenty, 2204 01:49:06,040 --> 01:49:06,759 Speaker 7: y'all going twenty. 2205 01:49:06,800 --> 01:49:10,160 Speaker 2: I'm just I'm saying. All I'm saying is all I'm 2206 01:49:10,160 --> 01:49:12,519 Speaker 2: saying is the Bow Wow era. 2207 01:49:12,840 --> 01:49:13,720 Speaker 8: You can't discredit that. 2208 01:49:13,800 --> 01:49:15,439 Speaker 2: I know what you mean is a is an era. 2209 01:49:15,720 --> 01:49:18,639 Speaker 4: And that Dirty Money album is fine twisted. That Dirty 2210 01:49:18,640 --> 01:49:20,120 Speaker 4: Money album is fined. Don't get it twisted. 2211 01:49:20,320 --> 01:49:22,320 Speaker 5: But I told you, But look, I told you. 2212 01:49:23,840 --> 01:49:26,720 Speaker 3: Iry to have for me. 2213 01:49:27,800 --> 01:49:32,559 Speaker 5: Who I mean? Max might be like, like we talked 2214 01:49:32,600 --> 01:49:35,240 Speaker 5: about two thousands, changed his his. 2215 01:49:39,160 --> 01:49:45,840 Speaker 2: Went, y'all ship this ship. I am hip hop. When 2216 01:49:45,880 --> 01:49:48,880 Speaker 2: it comes to band hip hop, you go back all 2217 01:49:48,920 --> 01:49:50,479 Speaker 2: and I go, now, who won? 2218 01:49:50,800 --> 01:49:50,960 Speaker 6: Bro? 2219 01:49:51,320 --> 01:49:54,320 Speaker 2: That's what it is. Especially if I go new ship. 2220 01:49:54,760 --> 01:49:59,280 Speaker 2: That's Big Bow our first album, his first album in 2221 01:49:59,320 --> 01:50:03,360 Speaker 2: two thousand one sold three million. That's not That's before 2222 01:50:03,400 --> 01:50:05,760 Speaker 2: we get to him in Sierra, before we get to 2223 01:50:05,840 --> 01:50:08,439 Speaker 2: him in O Marion, before we get to him and 2224 01:50:08,520 --> 01:50:11,760 Speaker 2: Chris Brown, before the real hits that niggas really be 2225 01:50:11,840 --> 01:50:12,400 Speaker 2: talking about. 2226 01:50:12,600 --> 01:50:14,120 Speaker 3: They got a whole COVID stream. 2227 01:50:16,960 --> 01:50:22,320 Speaker 2: I can't, I can't talk. I can't That's what I'm saying. 2228 01:50:22,680 --> 01:50:24,200 Speaker 5: So I'm saying this is what I'm saying. 2229 01:50:24,240 --> 01:50:26,720 Speaker 2: All I'm saying is that that that's a part of 2230 01:50:26,760 --> 01:50:29,560 Speaker 2: it that I feel like, like I said, majority of 2231 01:50:29,640 --> 01:50:32,200 Speaker 2: people they you know, even when I look at people 2232 01:50:32,240 --> 01:50:34,040 Speaker 2: when they talk about me and they say something about 2233 01:50:34,080 --> 01:50:38,880 Speaker 2: JERMAINI Free, they say legendary producer in the nineties. Do 2234 01:50:38,920 --> 01:50:40,120 Speaker 2: you know when bo came out? 2235 01:50:40,120 --> 01:50:40,439 Speaker 8: People? 2236 01:50:41,560 --> 01:50:44,280 Speaker 2: Do you know when Confessions came out? Do you know 2237 01:50:44,320 --> 01:50:47,519 Speaker 2: when Emancipation of Me and Me came out? It wasn't 2238 01:50:47,520 --> 01:50:48,760 Speaker 2: in the nineties. 2239 01:50:48,520 --> 01:50:50,800 Speaker 3: Right, not even close? 2240 01:50:51,040 --> 01:50:51,120 Speaker 6: This. 2241 01:50:52,000 --> 01:50:52,800 Speaker 5: I love this. 2242 01:50:53,520 --> 01:50:55,640 Speaker 2: I wanted to talk this was this a legends. 2243 01:50:58,760 --> 01:51:02,479 Speaker 5: Two thousand and one, three, five, six, seven. 2244 01:51:02,600 --> 01:51:06,439 Speaker 2: Emancipation of meeting came out in two thousand and seven, right, 2245 01:51:07,320 --> 01:51:11,840 Speaker 2: people be forgetting about that whole little patch of records. 2246 01:51:12,600 --> 01:51:16,080 Speaker 2: I'm telling you, I don't give fucked. But nobody saying 2247 01:51:16,760 --> 01:51:19,200 Speaker 2: pump that ain't got nothing for two thousand and seven, 2248 01:51:19,920 --> 01:51:23,200 Speaker 2: not on bad Boy, No no. 2249 01:51:23,240 --> 01:51:26,240 Speaker 8: Way, Listen, man, I need I want to see. 2250 01:51:26,120 --> 01:51:30,519 Speaker 3: That pinion somebody. 2251 01:51:31,200 --> 01:51:32,760 Speaker 8: I ain't gonna lie. I would, I would, I would. 2252 01:51:34,280 --> 01:51:36,400 Speaker 7: This is why we need diverses, though, because I feel like, 2253 01:51:36,560 --> 01:51:40,360 Speaker 7: once you have that people start hearing these records now 2254 01:51:40,360 --> 01:51:42,640 Speaker 7: and it comes back to them like, oh shit, And 2255 01:51:42,680 --> 01:51:45,280 Speaker 7: like I said, people don't even know half of those 2256 01:51:45,280 --> 01:51:46,840 Speaker 7: ship that shit you just said a lot of people 2257 01:51:46,880 --> 01:51:47,479 Speaker 7: forgot about that. 2258 01:51:47,520 --> 01:51:49,080 Speaker 8: They don't even they're not even thinking about that. 2259 01:51:49,760 --> 01:51:53,920 Speaker 7: Puff is more popular, you know, he has probably the 2260 01:51:54,000 --> 01:51:57,040 Speaker 7: records that people gravitate two more in the club when 2261 01:51:57,080 --> 01:51:58,519 Speaker 7: it comes on. So that's what they thinking when they 2262 01:51:58,560 --> 01:52:01,280 Speaker 7: think versus when it could drop. I'm like, oh yeah, 2263 01:52:01,320 --> 01:52:05,120 Speaker 7: but you talking about records that people just completely forgot about. 2264 01:52:05,240 --> 01:52:06,920 Speaker 7: And I understand why you, Like, Yo, why how did 2265 01:52:07,000 --> 01:52:09,040 Speaker 7: you just forget about that two thousand and seven? 2266 01:52:09,840 --> 01:52:13,200 Speaker 3: Like you said that versus a promoter first j D 2267 01:52:13,360 --> 01:52:13,840 Speaker 3: is a musician. 2268 01:52:13,880 --> 01:52:16,880 Speaker 10: First run about verses? And I told j like that 2269 01:52:17,000 --> 01:52:20,080 Speaker 10: ship different. We have seen the biggest niggas who might 2270 01:52:20,120 --> 01:52:21,200 Speaker 10: have more number ones. 2271 01:52:23,400 --> 01:52:24,040 Speaker 2: And that's what I think. 2272 01:52:24,640 --> 01:52:27,439 Speaker 5: I get up and I see it. I ain't gonna say, 2273 01:52:27,680 --> 01:52:28,360 Speaker 5: but I see it. 2274 01:52:28,439 --> 01:52:29,599 Speaker 6: You know what I think? 2275 01:52:29,640 --> 01:52:31,000 Speaker 5: And I think Puff said that that day. 2276 01:52:31,040 --> 01:52:32,280 Speaker 2: He was like, JA, what you gonna do. 2277 01:52:32,240 --> 01:52:33,919 Speaker 5: If you're gonna play them Marian records? 2278 01:52:35,000 --> 01:52:36,760 Speaker 3: And I'm like, I'll say names. 2279 01:52:36,800 --> 01:52:39,160 Speaker 4: When we watched Nellie and Luton, who could ever say 2280 01:52:39,200 --> 01:52:42,160 Speaker 4: Nelly that era. No one could compare Nelly's era of 2281 01:52:42,200 --> 01:52:45,439 Speaker 4: that time. Ever, I walked into that saying, damn, Luta 2282 01:52:45,520 --> 01:52:48,840 Speaker 4: might get washed and then what happened. It's different when 2283 01:52:48,880 --> 01:52:50,439 Speaker 4: you really match up those records and. 2284 01:52:50,400 --> 01:52:51,559 Speaker 5: Cultual moments different. 2285 01:52:51,600 --> 01:52:53,960 Speaker 3: I felt it, yeah, but it's way different. But it 2286 01:52:54,080 --> 01:52:55,160 Speaker 3: hit different in verses. 2287 01:52:55,360 --> 01:52:57,280 Speaker 5: But that's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. 2288 01:52:57,479 --> 01:53:00,280 Speaker 2: That's what tell you that ship hit infer. 2289 01:53:00,760 --> 01:53:08,120 Speaker 10: I'm agreeing with you like this, that's right, Okay, Nah, 2290 01:53:08,240 --> 01:53:08,639 Speaker 10: it's up. 2291 01:53:08,680 --> 01:53:10,400 Speaker 8: So that was you got, You picked the setlist yourself. 2292 01:53:10,960 --> 01:53:11,519 Speaker 2: Nobody help me. 2293 01:53:11,640 --> 01:53:13,799 Speaker 10: We put that ship to me and my DJ. DJ 2294 01:53:13,880 --> 01:53:17,200 Speaker 10: just put that ship together in motion. JD know, say, 2295 01:53:17,280 --> 01:53:19,400 Speaker 10: jad is what we're doing. He's like, okay, you ain't 2296 01:53:19,400 --> 01:53:22,640 Speaker 10: done that in that's gonna okay, this is how are 2297 01:53:22,680 --> 01:53:23,040 Speaker 10: we about to? 2298 01:53:23,120 --> 01:53:24,760 Speaker 5: Okay and we're gonna walk away with the dub and 2299 01:53:24,760 --> 01:53:26,160 Speaker 5: this mm hm. 2300 01:53:26,200 --> 01:53:28,160 Speaker 4: Say no more quick quickly before we get to what 2301 01:53:28,240 --> 01:53:29,599 Speaker 4: pussed you off on the phone, because I do want 2302 01:53:29,600 --> 01:53:35,080 Speaker 4: to get to that. I do want to ask because 2303 01:53:35,960 --> 01:53:37,280 Speaker 4: because of what you're saying, I don't think a lot 2304 01:53:37,280 --> 01:53:39,800 Speaker 4: of people know that you produced the R A record 2305 01:53:39,840 --> 01:53:41,720 Speaker 4: that's out now that is about to be number one. 2306 01:53:41,960 --> 01:53:44,479 Speaker 4: You be division, you be with you really be with 2307 01:53:44,520 --> 01:53:49,879 Speaker 4: the new generation. What you think about the whisper singers 2308 01:53:49,880 --> 01:53:51,360 Speaker 4: of R and B right now? And how do you 2309 01:53:51,400 --> 01:53:55,200 Speaker 4: pick who you work with and who's worthy to come 2310 01:53:55,240 --> 01:53:57,400 Speaker 4: into this studio? Because R and B, I think is 2311 01:53:57,439 --> 01:54:01,000 Speaker 4: in a very good place, but it's changed drastically when 2312 01:54:01,000 --> 01:54:02,000 Speaker 4: it comes to vocals. 2313 01:54:02,320 --> 01:54:05,680 Speaker 2: Well, I just like I said, I just really realized 2314 01:54:06,360 --> 01:54:10,400 Speaker 2: why R and B has changed, and it's because nobody's 2315 01:54:10,439 --> 01:54:13,200 Speaker 2: going in the studio. Mary J. Blige got a new 2316 01:54:13,240 --> 01:54:14,759 Speaker 2: single produced by DJ Caller. 2317 01:54:14,880 --> 01:54:15,320 Speaker 8: I hate it. 2318 01:54:15,400 --> 01:54:19,559 Speaker 2: I don't like it. See, we got to be like 2319 01:54:19,760 --> 01:54:25,400 Speaker 2: the thumbnails and ship like listen. 2320 01:54:26,040 --> 01:54:28,280 Speaker 5: So my point is too much sense, listen. 2321 01:54:28,360 --> 01:54:32,360 Speaker 2: My point is this point. My point is this, when 2322 01:54:34,440 --> 01:54:37,080 Speaker 2: not when, what's the last number one R and B? 2323 01:54:37,160 --> 01:54:38,760 Speaker 2: Wrecking that call? It made. 2324 01:54:41,680 --> 01:54:43,000 Speaker 5: R and B exactly. 2325 01:54:43,600 --> 01:54:45,360 Speaker 4: I guess the bryceon Teller and Rihanna one would be 2326 01:54:45,400 --> 01:54:46,520 Speaker 4: popped to me, that wouldn't be R and B. 2327 01:54:46,680 --> 01:54:48,880 Speaker 2: Okay, So this is my point. That's what I'm saying. 2328 01:54:49,280 --> 01:54:53,640 Speaker 2: You got a legendary artist like Mary J. Blize going 2329 01:54:53,680 --> 01:54:56,560 Speaker 2: in the studio with people that don't make the music. 2330 01:54:56,720 --> 01:54:59,760 Speaker 3: Is this was exactly what we were talking about, exactly. 2331 01:55:00,120 --> 01:55:02,440 Speaker 2: This is what I was saying, This is what's happening 2332 01:55:02,520 --> 01:55:05,040 Speaker 2: in R and B. Right, So take say, for instance, 2333 01:55:05,440 --> 01:55:09,560 Speaker 2: Chloe Right, I don't I mean, is the Chloy record 2334 01:55:09,560 --> 01:55:11,720 Speaker 2: a hip hop record or R and B song to you? 2335 01:55:12,680 --> 01:55:14,960 Speaker 4: It sounds like a hard drive record that a label said, 2336 01:55:15,040 --> 01:55:16,560 Speaker 4: I think this will work with the algorithms. 2337 01:55:18,040 --> 01:55:18,640 Speaker 8: It's hip hop. 2338 01:55:21,560 --> 01:55:22,120 Speaker 3: I'm telling you what. 2339 01:55:23,680 --> 01:55:26,400 Speaker 2: You use her. She's an R and B artist. They 2340 01:55:26,440 --> 01:55:30,680 Speaker 2: want the murdered beats like this. You're not. You're not 2341 01:55:30,840 --> 01:55:37,560 Speaker 2: gonna get Yeah cords from Babyface, chords from Jimmy Jeames, 2342 01:55:37,640 --> 01:55:41,560 Speaker 2: Terry Lewis, cords from dark Child, No warmth, it's from 2343 01:55:41,600 --> 01:55:43,840 Speaker 2: even Pharrell. You're not gonna get none of that ship 2344 01:55:43,880 --> 01:55:46,720 Speaker 2: that you probably like from R and B from these 2345 01:55:46,760 --> 01:55:48,680 Speaker 2: guys that think people are going to get. 2346 01:55:48,760 --> 01:55:50,640 Speaker 7: But you know why that is though, because now people 2347 01:55:50,680 --> 01:55:54,040 Speaker 7: are more concerned with just putting the names that Mary J. 2348 01:55:54,160 --> 01:55:55,520 Speaker 8: Blige produced by Calid. 2349 01:55:55,880 --> 01:55:57,960 Speaker 7: It's the name, It's not so much the art and 2350 01:55:57,960 --> 01:56:00,120 Speaker 7: what makes sense no more because if you see. 2351 01:56:00,040 --> 01:56:00,800 Speaker 8: Calent and Mary J. 2352 01:56:00,920 --> 01:56:02,600 Speaker 7: Blige, you're gonna click on it, just because those are 2353 01:56:02,680 --> 01:56:04,600 Speaker 7: names that you click on but then now if you 2354 01:56:04,600 --> 01:56:07,560 Speaker 7: see an amazing R and B producer that you don't know, 2355 01:56:07,600 --> 01:56:10,680 Speaker 7: but it makes more sense sonically and it's a smash, 2356 01:56:10,880 --> 01:56:13,200 Speaker 7: people might not run to click it because they don't 2357 01:56:13,200 --> 01:56:14,240 Speaker 7: recognize that name. 2358 01:56:14,520 --> 01:56:16,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, but I understand that. But I'm saying, it's just 2359 01:56:16,240 --> 01:56:18,080 Speaker 2: like this when I used to when I be in 2360 01:56:18,120 --> 01:56:22,480 Speaker 2: my office, I used to love having Lil John and 2361 01:56:23,120 --> 01:56:25,960 Speaker 2: Bowow and all the artists come up to the office 2362 01:56:26,000 --> 01:56:28,120 Speaker 2: and just be in the office and playing music and 2363 01:56:28,160 --> 01:56:31,120 Speaker 2: talking ship. You see, I fanst y'all said what y'all 2364 01:56:31,160 --> 01:56:33,200 Speaker 2: said about that call it Mary. 2365 01:56:33,080 --> 01:56:36,480 Speaker 4: J because we talked about it already, or exactly what 2366 01:56:36,560 --> 01:56:39,600 Speaker 4: he just said. I said, Mary's needs better people around her. 2367 01:56:39,640 --> 01:56:41,840 Speaker 4: Manager needs to know that this is out of touch. 2368 01:56:41,840 --> 01:56:44,160 Speaker 3: You're just trying to find the name music. 2369 01:56:45,200 --> 01:56:47,640 Speaker 10: One thing I can relate to also Mary on what 2370 01:56:47,720 --> 01:56:49,640 Speaker 10: the number one show stars right now? 2371 01:56:50,360 --> 01:56:50,880 Speaker 8: Mm hmmm. 2372 01:56:51,120 --> 01:56:54,120 Speaker 5: Acting, Yeah, just killing shit exactly. So sometimes you know. 2373 01:56:54,080 --> 01:56:58,920 Speaker 10: You just the fact that you've been an actress too. 2374 01:56:59,000 --> 01:57:00,360 Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying. I can feel that I 2375 01:57:00,400 --> 01:57:01,200 Speaker 5: know how that shit feel. 2376 01:57:01,960 --> 01:57:04,160 Speaker 7: But the music suffers then because now you're out of touch. 2377 01:57:04,240 --> 01:57:05,680 Speaker 7: But and now you're just going. 2378 01:57:05,480 --> 01:57:07,400 Speaker 5: With such a legend and the other genre of what 2379 01:57:07,440 --> 01:57:09,920 Speaker 5: you do. I can always come back to that. 2380 01:57:10,200 --> 01:57:13,760 Speaker 4: But that's why fifty fifty decided. 2381 01:57:14,960 --> 01:57:15,960 Speaker 2: But you know that's aur though. 2382 01:57:16,000 --> 01:57:16,840 Speaker 8: You know they say that's a courage. 2383 01:57:16,880 --> 01:57:18,720 Speaker 7: Once you go too far into the acting and all that, 2384 01:57:19,160 --> 01:57:21,200 Speaker 7: as a musician, it's hard to come back. 2385 01:57:21,240 --> 01:57:23,920 Speaker 10: I just did it for two months. I just I 2386 01:57:24,080 --> 01:57:25,440 Speaker 10: just said them, Are I just did it? 2387 01:57:25,960 --> 01:57:27,400 Speaker 3: Mm hmm, And yeah. 2388 01:57:27,400 --> 01:57:29,200 Speaker 4: I don't know if that's just because after, like Mike, 2389 01:57:29,360 --> 01:57:31,640 Speaker 4: you had at least two or three big hits. 2390 01:57:31,680 --> 01:57:33,560 Speaker 3: I feel like after like my four. 2391 01:57:33,920 --> 01:57:41,160 Speaker 2: Facts, they ain't doing no movies after like Mike though, what. 2392 01:57:38,960 --> 01:57:41,040 Speaker 3: What wasn't him a salon trying to go to Cedric 2393 01:57:41,240 --> 01:57:42,720 Speaker 3: Entertainers or something? 2394 01:57:42,920 --> 01:57:45,040 Speaker 2: What what movie was saying? After you did? 2395 01:57:45,160 --> 01:57:48,040 Speaker 5: I like, I'm talking about not right after like Mike though. 2396 01:57:48,200 --> 01:57:53,280 Speaker 2: I mean, but like like Mike, after that, but come on, 2397 01:57:53,520 --> 01:57:55,440 Speaker 2: I'm talking about I'm just I'm saying not he didn't 2398 01:57:55,440 --> 01:57:58,400 Speaker 2: do no movies right after like Mike. He didn't go Will. 2399 01:57:58,240 --> 01:58:00,880 Speaker 3: Smith exactly even should have we war. 2400 01:58:00,800 --> 01:58:02,840 Speaker 2: Fifty million at the box office. He should have did 2401 01:58:02,880 --> 01:58:06,440 Speaker 2: Will Smith. I was telling him Will Smith. 2402 01:58:06,200 --> 01:58:08,480 Speaker 10: You know, but we still won because with the with 2403 01:58:08,600 --> 01:58:11,040 Speaker 10: the movie came that like Mike soundtrack, what you had 2404 01:58:11,560 --> 01:58:14,000 Speaker 10: on your label, that's how the whole that's why to 2405 01:58:14,000 --> 01:58:15,640 Speaker 10: this day and this shit is crazy. I'm bringing this 2406 01:58:15,800 --> 01:58:20,400 Speaker 10: up even though it's Curtis blow song. Bigas think that 2407 01:58:20,480 --> 01:58:23,800 Speaker 10: it's mice whole basketball basketball, Like the whole world thinks 2408 01:58:23,840 --> 01:58:28,680 Speaker 10: that belongs to me, Like that's my song, Like like 2409 01:58:28,960 --> 01:58:31,240 Speaker 10: it's the crazy shit in the world. So you're right, 2410 01:58:31,320 --> 01:58:33,160 Speaker 10: like we after we did the movie, it went back 2411 01:58:33,200 --> 01:58:35,720 Speaker 10: to the soundtrack. From the soundtrack became the single from 2412 01:58:35,760 --> 01:58:38,840 Speaker 10: that came Taking Home with for Real and it was 2413 01:58:38,160 --> 01:58:39,960 Speaker 10: and it was Hardball y'all tried. 2414 01:58:40,000 --> 01:58:41,720 Speaker 4: I like the I'd like to try to do with 2415 01:58:41,720 --> 01:58:43,360 Speaker 4: the littles on the Hardball soundtrack. 2416 01:58:44,000 --> 01:58:46,360 Speaker 3: Who do you think? Who do y'allt wane. 2417 01:58:46,120 --> 01:58:46,600 Speaker 2: On that record? 2418 01:58:47,280 --> 01:58:48,520 Speaker 5: I feel like we was all like. 2419 01:58:48,680 --> 01:58:50,560 Speaker 3: No one even gonna know the record we're talking about. 2420 01:58:50,480 --> 01:58:55,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, but they gonna look it up though, Remember it's 2421 01:58:55,200 --> 01:58:55,360 Speaker 5: a hit. 2422 01:58:56,320 --> 01:58:58,400 Speaker 3: We don't know they're gonna know what it's a hit 2423 01:58:58,440 --> 01:58:58,680 Speaker 3: after that? 2424 01:58:58,760 --> 01:59:01,720 Speaker 5: Wait, wait they you know it was number one on 2425 01:59:01,720 --> 01:59:02,760 Speaker 5: one of those parts. 2426 01:59:03,040 --> 01:59:05,640 Speaker 4: But there was kids. You have to remind kids you 2427 01:59:05,680 --> 01:59:07,760 Speaker 4: have too. Oh ship, that was a ship I grew 2428 01:59:07,840 --> 01:59:08,680 Speaker 4: up on kids. 2429 01:59:08,760 --> 01:59:12,400 Speaker 2: Yes, your age. I know they know that song. They 2430 01:59:12,440 --> 01:59:15,240 Speaker 2: wanted him to perform that song because Sammy on that tool. 2431 01:59:15,280 --> 01:59:18,280 Speaker 4: They don't even know Lozane was in a Doctor Doolittle 2432 01:59:18,320 --> 01:59:20,160 Speaker 4: like they're gonna ship oh wait, I went back to 2433 01:59:20,200 --> 01:59:23,320 Speaker 4: Doctor see Exactlysane was in BMF. 2434 01:59:24,320 --> 01:59:26,160 Speaker 2: I'm talking about. 2435 01:59:27,440 --> 01:59:28,960 Speaker 8: It's just it's not even. 2436 01:59:32,280 --> 01:59:35,920 Speaker 10: You know, like Willi's relevance though, Like because speaking of 2437 01:59:35,960 --> 01:59:39,760 Speaker 10: a nigga like a little ze right, somebody who I 2438 01:59:39,800 --> 01:59:43,560 Speaker 10: feel it is on one of the like most and 2439 01:59:43,680 --> 01:59:45,880 Speaker 10: JA you might look crazy, but like for my era, 2440 01:59:46,040 --> 01:59:48,040 Speaker 10: like the most iconic, like R and B record, like 2441 01:59:48,040 --> 01:59:50,640 Speaker 10: he has a memorable verse on the one to a record, 2442 01:59:50,680 --> 01:59:53,680 Speaker 10: like his verse is very memorable. Like we talk about relevance, 2443 01:59:53,720 --> 01:59:55,240 Speaker 10: what we speaking on because as we just said, his 2444 01:59:55,360 --> 01:59:59,480 Speaker 10: name is like he is in the biggest, if not 2445 01:59:59,520 --> 01:59:59,800 Speaker 10: one of the. 2446 01:59:59,760 --> 02:00:01,680 Speaker 5: Big it's like urban shows us out right now. 2447 02:00:02,360 --> 02:00:04,000 Speaker 10: So it's like when we speak on relevance, like what 2448 02:00:04,120 --> 02:00:06,600 Speaker 10: is what is really the definition of relevance? 2449 02:00:08,080 --> 02:00:09,520 Speaker 5: Is it current? 2450 02:00:09,560 --> 02:00:10,200 Speaker 2: Shit? Is it? 2451 02:00:10,320 --> 02:00:12,120 Speaker 5: Like? Like what are we basing that word of one? 2452 02:00:12,120 --> 02:00:13,640 Speaker 8: Because I hear that, Yeah, you would have to be 2453 02:00:13,680 --> 02:00:14,760 Speaker 8: current if it's relevant. 2454 02:00:16,080 --> 02:00:18,320 Speaker 4: I think I think it's in the eye of the beholder, 2455 02:00:18,720 --> 02:00:21,600 Speaker 4: to be quite honest, which what what's really relevant to you? 2456 02:00:21,840 --> 02:00:24,600 Speaker 4: Back to the platforms that matter and the people that matter? 2457 02:00:25,000 --> 02:00:26,960 Speaker 4: Am I relevant to the shit that matters to me? 2458 02:00:27,320 --> 02:00:28,960 Speaker 4: Am I being talked about in the places I want 2459 02:00:28,960 --> 02:00:31,040 Speaker 4: to be talked about? And I have the money I have? 2460 02:00:31,120 --> 02:00:32,280 Speaker 4: Do I have the accolades I have? 2461 02:00:32,960 --> 02:00:33,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not. 2462 02:00:34,280 --> 02:00:35,880 Speaker 4: Relevancy is in the eye of the beholder at this 2463 02:00:35,880 --> 02:00:38,160 Speaker 4: point because the Internet, that shit has spread everything across 2464 02:00:38,200 --> 02:00:41,080 Speaker 4: the world. Agree that it's every little pocket. There's no 2465 02:00:41,120 --> 02:00:44,080 Speaker 4: more little niche sit, no more. It's even smaller than niche. 2466 02:00:44,600 --> 02:00:49,000 Speaker 4: So it's in how you feel smaller niche, and like, 2467 02:00:50,080 --> 02:00:51,920 Speaker 4: do you want to be relevant right now? Because look 2468 02:00:51,960 --> 02:00:54,960 Speaker 4: what is relevant? And I'm not even talking about music 2469 02:00:55,000 --> 02:00:57,400 Speaker 4: at this point. We could put this to the entire world. 2470 02:00:57,680 --> 02:00:59,840 Speaker 4: We could do this with the presidency race, Like do 2471 02:01:00,080 --> 02:01:03,160 Speaker 4: we want to be relevant? Because relevancy is bullshit? It's 2472 02:01:03,200 --> 02:01:04,640 Speaker 4: a bunch of nonsense. 2473 02:01:04,520 --> 02:01:06,440 Speaker 7: Don't I don't know if I care so much about relevancy. 2474 02:01:06,440 --> 02:01:08,960 Speaker 7: I'd rather just when people get it and they go 2475 02:01:09,000 --> 02:01:10,120 Speaker 7: back to it like he's. 2476 02:01:10,000 --> 02:01:11,040 Speaker 8: Been putting out hot shit. 2477 02:01:11,400 --> 02:01:12,840 Speaker 5: Okay, like a. 2478 02:01:12,840 --> 02:01:15,280 Speaker 7: Lot of motherfuckers go fast and they hit the top 2479 02:01:15,320 --> 02:01:17,760 Speaker 7: and it's like oh shit, yeah, but then they fizz 2480 02:01:17,800 --> 02:01:20,680 Speaker 7: out and it's over it. Like I'd rather be like 2481 02:01:20,840 --> 02:01:23,960 Speaker 7: a JD consistent years of Nigga's been hit for thirty 2482 02:01:24,040 --> 02:01:27,200 Speaker 7: thirty years. Y'all may not be talking about it. I 2483 02:01:27,280 --> 02:01:30,520 Speaker 7: may not be relevant in certain conversations and roundtables because 2484 02:01:30,560 --> 02:01:32,880 Speaker 7: you're just not talking about it for whatever reason. But 2485 02:01:32,920 --> 02:01:34,480 Speaker 7: if somebody throws my name on the table and I'm 2486 02:01:34,480 --> 02:01:36,160 Speaker 7: like damn, and then you start rolling through the files 2487 02:01:36,160 --> 02:01:38,120 Speaker 7: and you're looking like, oh, he's been putting out shit 2488 02:01:39,000 --> 02:01:41,760 Speaker 7: since two thousand and one, that's been Yeah. 2489 02:01:41,800 --> 02:01:43,560 Speaker 2: See, I don't I don't even get caught up in that. 2490 02:01:43,560 --> 02:01:46,120 Speaker 2: I'm never even worried about that relevance. 2491 02:01:46,200 --> 02:01:47,440 Speaker 8: Yeah, but you know that's what I'm saying. 2492 02:01:47,440 --> 02:01:49,280 Speaker 5: You don't even I don't even know what that means, right. 2493 02:01:49,680 --> 02:01:52,200 Speaker 2: I feel like the one thing that people like I 2494 02:01:52,200 --> 02:01:55,400 Speaker 2: said I'm a numbers guy. What people don't understand about 2495 02:01:55,440 --> 02:01:57,920 Speaker 2: me is I play the numbers, and the numbers that 2496 02:01:58,000 --> 02:02:02,520 Speaker 2: I play is that every mogul that people compare me to, 2497 02:02:02,960 --> 02:02:06,520 Speaker 2: I'm younger than them. So in every dance that we 2498 02:02:06,680 --> 02:02:08,520 Speaker 2: be talking about, even like the way we when you're 2499 02:02:08,520 --> 02:02:11,320 Speaker 2: talking about academics page and dah da da dah, and 2500 02:02:11,360 --> 02:02:15,240 Speaker 2: his audience is younger. I don't think people be understanding 2501 02:02:15,240 --> 02:02:17,480 Speaker 2: that I'm younger than Puff. I'm younger than jay Z, 2502 02:02:18,160 --> 02:02:23,440 Speaker 2: I'm younger than Kevin Lyles, I'm younger than Russell. I'm younger. 2503 02:02:23,880 --> 02:02:25,760 Speaker 2: I'm younger than all of these dudes. I'm younger than 2504 02:02:25,800 --> 02:02:28,840 Speaker 2: Teddy Riley. I'm younger than all of these guys. I 2505 02:02:28,920 --> 02:02:31,560 Speaker 2: might not be young by much, but I'm younger than them, right, 2506 02:02:32,080 --> 02:02:34,760 Speaker 2: So therefore my audience is younger than them. And then 2507 02:02:34,800 --> 02:02:39,040 Speaker 2: I got younger artists that is younger than any artist 2508 02:02:39,120 --> 02:02:42,600 Speaker 2: that they got, which makes my audience even younger than their. Right, 2509 02:02:43,040 --> 02:02:46,080 Speaker 2: So for me, I feel like the relevance part thing 2510 02:02:46,120 --> 02:02:46,960 Speaker 2: don't even work for me. 2511 02:02:47,040 --> 02:02:50,440 Speaker 5: Because people know me for Bawour. 2512 02:02:50,760 --> 02:02:53,200 Speaker 2: People know me for Anthony Hamilton, people know me for 2513 02:02:53,240 --> 02:02:56,560 Speaker 2: the Rap Game, people know me for Escape, people know 2514 02:02:56,640 --> 02:02:58,760 Speaker 2: me for the Brat, people know me for Criss Krust. 2515 02:02:59,720 --> 02:03:03,320 Speaker 2: That it is that ships all over the place, right, 2516 02:03:03,680 --> 02:03:07,240 Speaker 2: you can't I can't possibly be like, Okay, well I 2517 02:03:07,280 --> 02:03:10,800 Speaker 2: expect you if you listen to Escape, you you listen 2518 02:03:10,880 --> 02:03:13,680 Speaker 2: about Wow, Like no, no, there's no way. 2519 02:03:13,880 --> 02:03:19,000 Speaker 4: Matter fact, that's the point, right, that's the point off 2520 02:03:19,000 --> 02:03:19,839 Speaker 4: I break the labels. 2521 02:03:19,880 --> 02:03:20,760 Speaker 2: You know what I'm just saying. 2522 02:03:20,880 --> 02:03:24,480 Speaker 3: Escape you you could love it like you just can't. 2523 02:03:24,520 --> 02:03:26,720 Speaker 2: It's no way possible for you to be for you 2524 02:03:26,760 --> 02:03:29,880 Speaker 2: to even have that conversation about me at a time, 2525 02:03:29,960 --> 02:03:33,040 Speaker 2: you know what I mean, because when you're talking about 2526 02:03:33,120 --> 02:03:36,360 Speaker 2: this person, I might be over here just in this space, right, 2527 02:03:36,640 --> 02:03:39,000 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. Like, And that's the one thing, 2528 02:03:39,400 --> 02:03:41,480 Speaker 2: like when we talk about the R and B, you saying, 2529 02:03:41,480 --> 02:03:44,560 Speaker 2: how am I going into it now? Like I said, 2530 02:03:44,600 --> 02:03:51,440 Speaker 2: I continue to keep starting at one. I live by 2531 02:03:51,560 --> 02:03:54,040 Speaker 2: like the clock because I think people don't understand that, 2532 02:03:54,120 --> 02:03:56,760 Speaker 2: Like niggas think that they get to ten, they gonna 2533 02:03:56,760 --> 02:03:59,720 Speaker 2: go to twenty. You go to twenty, you started back 2534 02:03:59,760 --> 02:04:03,640 Speaker 2: at you just you know, you get get to ten, 2535 02:04:03,960 --> 02:04:07,360 Speaker 2: you start back over. It starts at eleven, one and two, 2536 02:04:07,440 --> 02:04:11,320 Speaker 2: it starts over again. And if you can figure out 2537 02:04:11,400 --> 02:04:15,360 Speaker 2: how to start over and keep going back to ten 2538 02:04:16,560 --> 02:04:18,920 Speaker 2: and start back over and keep going back to ten, 2539 02:04:20,120 --> 02:04:23,000 Speaker 2: that's a gift to me or even a trick that 2540 02:04:23,680 --> 02:04:24,960 Speaker 2: it's hard to figure it out. 2541 02:04:25,000 --> 02:04:26,280 Speaker 3: Can you explain that a little bit more? 2542 02:04:26,320 --> 02:04:27,800 Speaker 4: I know what you're saying, but I think you need 2543 02:04:27,800 --> 02:04:29,440 Speaker 4: to explain that a little bit more, because that was 2544 02:04:29,480 --> 02:04:32,560 Speaker 4: probably one of the bigger jewels you just drought this 2545 02:04:32,760 --> 02:04:33,320 Speaker 4: entire Yeah. 2546 02:04:33,360 --> 02:04:36,880 Speaker 2: I mean I don't know how much how much it 2547 02:04:36,920 --> 02:04:38,760 Speaker 2: was used to be something. I fear it because it 2548 02:04:38,840 --> 02:04:44,080 Speaker 2: was like, you know, most people that get successful, they 2549 02:04:44,120 --> 02:04:48,920 Speaker 2: get way up here, right, and most people play the 2550 02:04:49,000 --> 02:04:52,360 Speaker 2: game safe once they get at the top ye where 2551 02:04:52,360 --> 02:04:56,160 Speaker 2: they like, I'm up here. Every move I make has 2552 02:04:56,200 --> 02:04:59,160 Speaker 2: to be something that keeps me up here, as opposed 2553 02:04:59,160 --> 02:05:01,760 Speaker 2: to me going back down here and grabbing somebody that 2554 02:05:01,840 --> 02:05:07,160 Speaker 2: ain't nobody. Right, I go up here and I leave 2555 02:05:07,240 --> 02:05:09,000 Speaker 2: that up there, and I go back down here and 2556 02:05:09,080 --> 02:05:12,440 Speaker 2: I grab something that's nobody's talking about exactly right. 2557 02:05:12,960 --> 02:05:16,080 Speaker 5: So and I and I realized that. 2558 02:05:17,400 --> 02:05:20,720 Speaker 2: It's really just a fear thing, Like if you're scared 2559 02:05:20,760 --> 02:05:23,640 Speaker 2: of it, you shouldn't do it. But if you don't 2560 02:05:23,680 --> 02:05:29,520 Speaker 2: have no fear of how going back down here even 2561 02:05:29,600 --> 02:05:33,040 Speaker 2: bothers this? Right? Me working with Arin Lennox has nothing 2562 02:05:33,040 --> 02:05:35,640 Speaker 2: to do about bow. I was bow, Wow, he's here, 2563 02:05:35,680 --> 02:05:36,280 Speaker 2: he's up here. 2564 02:05:37,560 --> 02:05:38,840 Speaker 5: What you say? 2565 02:05:39,720 --> 02:05:43,120 Speaker 3: That's who everybody relaxed, that's my friend. 2566 02:05:42,480 --> 02:05:55,000 Speaker 2: Oh god, nobody can say something just getting crazy. 2567 02:05:53,840 --> 02:06:04,160 Speaker 11: Artists and this ship went down. 2568 02:06:03,960 --> 02:06:08,880 Speaker 2: We all love. My point is, like I said, I 2569 02:06:09,440 --> 02:06:11,680 Speaker 2: figured that out, and I and I figured it out 2570 02:06:11,800 --> 02:06:14,680 Speaker 2: because I did it first. That's the first thing I 2571 02:06:14,720 --> 02:06:18,120 Speaker 2: did with Chris Cross, Chris Crust, so all these records 2572 02:06:18,360 --> 02:06:21,680 Speaker 2: and I went and got escaped, and nobody expected that 2573 02:06:21,760 --> 02:06:24,000 Speaker 2: to happen. Nobody wanted me to do that. People at 2574 02:06:24,040 --> 02:06:27,120 Speaker 2: Columbia thought I was crazy, like Jaman, what are you doing? 2575 02:06:27,200 --> 02:06:29,280 Speaker 5: You got the rappers, you want to. 2576 02:06:29,280 --> 02:06:31,160 Speaker 2: Come with more rap music, and I'm like, no, I 2577 02:06:31,160 --> 02:06:33,160 Speaker 2: want an R and B group. When it got the 2578 02:06:33,280 --> 02:06:35,680 Speaker 2: R and B group got them going boom, they going 2579 02:06:36,800 --> 02:06:40,960 Speaker 2: go find up female rapper at a time when female 2580 02:06:41,000 --> 02:06:44,560 Speaker 2: rappers is not selling records, and just you have no 2581 02:06:45,320 --> 02:06:49,200 Speaker 2: you just could not possibly work right. You go do 2582 02:06:50,000 --> 02:06:55,520 Speaker 2: Brat boom, Jagged Edge. You just keep you just keep 2583 02:06:55,600 --> 02:06:59,640 Speaker 2: starting at one. And I don't feel like if you 2584 02:06:59,760 --> 02:07:04,800 Speaker 2: start at ten with an artist, that's where all the 2585 02:07:04,840 --> 02:07:07,920 Speaker 2: all the all the hopes and dreams is let out 2586 02:07:07,960 --> 02:07:12,960 Speaker 2: of the air balloon, you know, because like if if 2587 02:07:13,000 --> 02:07:17,440 Speaker 2: I would have had, you know, win a game bow 2588 02:07:17,440 --> 02:07:21,880 Speaker 2: Wow his own space and tried to put bow Wow 2589 02:07:22,040 --> 02:07:25,640 Speaker 2: on a Jagged Edge record or some shit like that 2590 02:07:25,880 --> 02:07:30,520 Speaker 2: to break him, I wouldn't have never really seen his audience, 2591 02:07:30,640 --> 02:07:32,360 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. I feel like that's another thing. 2592 02:07:32,400 --> 02:07:35,720 Speaker 2: Like I've tried to make sure all the artists get 2593 02:07:35,760 --> 02:07:39,240 Speaker 2: their own audience, they get their own people, they get this. 2594 02:07:39,240 --> 02:07:43,280 Speaker 2: This is what's going on, right, And you know, like 2595 02:07:44,640 --> 02:07:46,960 Speaker 2: when we speak about the art record, when did the 2596 02:07:47,120 --> 02:07:50,600 Speaker 2: art record? I told her, I was like, Yo, well 2597 02:07:50,640 --> 02:07:53,520 Speaker 2: I found a sample. I'm like, listen, you know the 2598 02:07:53,760 --> 02:07:57,000 Speaker 2: girls on Instagram. I seen you say this too. All 2599 02:07:57,080 --> 02:07:58,880 Speaker 2: y'all be saying, y'all getting a mirror, y'all be like 2600 02:07:58,880 --> 02:08:02,560 Speaker 2: this that pressure, right? I said, watch every girl gonna 2601 02:08:02,560 --> 02:08:05,760 Speaker 2: do this, we make this song. And she's like, you think, 2602 02:08:05,920 --> 02:08:07,680 Speaker 2: so that's. 2603 02:08:07,560 --> 02:08:08,200 Speaker 3: A good impression. 2604 02:08:09,720 --> 02:08:14,120 Speaker 2: And I'm like, yes, listen, and so I know people 2605 02:08:14,160 --> 02:08:16,839 Speaker 2: be seeing me post all these videos of these girls, 2606 02:08:17,520 --> 02:08:21,400 Speaker 2: and it's like that shit is amazing to me because 2607 02:08:21,440 --> 02:08:24,520 Speaker 2: these girls, this is not nobody asking, This is not 2608 02:08:24,600 --> 02:08:29,440 Speaker 2: a promotion player nobody. These girls. Every morning I wake up, 2609 02:08:29,480 --> 02:08:35,200 Speaker 2: it's ten thousand girls posting that song. Yeah, you know 2610 02:08:35,240 --> 02:08:37,760 Speaker 2: what I'm saying, Like that shit is wild to me. 2611 02:08:38,400 --> 02:08:41,040 Speaker 2: And once again, I still feel like that's another I 2612 02:08:41,040 --> 02:08:43,160 Speaker 2: feel like she's another one that's in that space. That's 2613 02:08:43,200 --> 02:08:46,000 Speaker 2: not you know, they're not really talking about it. This 2614 02:08:46,080 --> 02:08:49,280 Speaker 2: is you know, this is this, this is a just 2615 02:08:49,360 --> 02:08:50,200 Speaker 2: a real record. 2616 02:08:50,200 --> 02:08:52,520 Speaker 4: But that's that's numbers verse what we see on the 2617 02:08:52,520 --> 02:08:55,040 Speaker 4: internet with the bullshit, because that's doing numbers. 2618 02:08:55,640 --> 02:08:56,879 Speaker 3: It's just not on the bullshit. 2619 02:08:57,480 --> 02:08:58,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, but I mean, I mean, I'm not even talking 2620 02:08:58,720 --> 02:09:00,840 Speaker 2: about the numbers. I'm just saying just about the fact 2621 02:09:00,920 --> 02:09:02,640 Speaker 2: that like when we talk about like when we talk 2622 02:09:02,680 --> 02:09:04,920 Speaker 2: about R and B music, that's a pure R and 2623 02:09:04,960 --> 02:09:08,920 Speaker 2: B record, ain't you know what I mean, ain't no 2624 02:09:09,040 --> 02:09:11,600 Speaker 2: rap shit in And she ain't trying to rap. She's singing, 2625 02:09:11,840 --> 02:09:15,200 Speaker 2: there's a pure R and B record. She's singing, it's 2626 02:09:15,240 --> 02:09:19,920 Speaker 2: a pure R and B record that everybody loves it. 2627 02:09:20,080 --> 02:09:22,880 Speaker 2: All black girls are like going crazy over the song, 2628 02:09:22,960 --> 02:09:25,680 Speaker 2: like it's a black girl anthem. And I just feel 2629 02:09:25,720 --> 02:09:28,760 Speaker 2: like that's the that as long as I can make 2630 02:09:28,800 --> 02:09:30,720 Speaker 2: because I'm just asking you a question. The long way, 2631 02:09:30,760 --> 02:09:32,840 Speaker 2: as long as I can make records like that and 2632 02:09:32,920 --> 02:09:35,920 Speaker 2: continue to keep making records like that, those are the 2633 02:09:35,920 --> 02:09:37,840 Speaker 2: type of artists I'm gonna reach for. It don't matter, 2634 02:09:38,480 --> 02:09:43,200 Speaker 2: Like you know what Laraty was before I did that song. 2635 02:09:43,640 --> 02:09:45,760 Speaker 2: None of that mattered to me, you know what I mean. 2636 02:09:46,480 --> 02:09:49,400 Speaker 2: Where certain producers, they won't work with you unless you 2637 02:09:49,560 --> 02:09:52,720 Speaker 2: uh you know bow wow, like you know what I mean, 2638 02:09:53,040 --> 02:09:56,000 Speaker 2: I don't care about where artist is. You know, when 2639 02:09:56,000 --> 02:09:57,800 Speaker 2: I did a mancipation of me me, people told me 2640 02:09:57,840 --> 02:10:01,720 Speaker 2: I saved Mariah's life. I don't even really that because 2641 02:10:01,720 --> 02:10:03,960 Speaker 2: I didn't know what she was doing prior. 2642 02:10:04,200 --> 02:10:05,400 Speaker 3: I mean, Christmas saved your life. 2643 02:10:05,840 --> 02:10:10,240 Speaker 2: I mean Christmas saved everybody. Christmas. 2644 02:10:10,840 --> 02:10:12,760 Speaker 5: There, I'm on that record. Christmas. 2645 02:10:13,400 --> 02:10:17,640 Speaker 2: Oh god, anyway, Christmas, I'm on the record. 2646 02:10:18,160 --> 02:10:21,520 Speaker 5: Yeah you know, it's the biggest record. Oh my god. 2647 02:10:22,120 --> 02:10:24,440 Speaker 2: Yeah. So so I mean that's what it is, you know. 2648 02:10:24,520 --> 02:10:28,360 Speaker 2: So like even with division, like it's crazy. When I 2649 02:10:28,360 --> 02:10:32,040 Speaker 2: first started working with Damn, half of my friends didn't 2650 02:10:32,040 --> 02:10:33,840 Speaker 2: even know who the fuck he was. It's like, who 2651 02:10:33,920 --> 02:10:37,280 Speaker 2: is this who were working with? And then it's like okay, 2652 02:10:37,480 --> 02:10:42,600 Speaker 2: oh I heard it? Oh private for a while, all right, yeah, 2653 02:10:42,720 --> 02:10:46,280 Speaker 2: oh all right, yeah I heard this song. Okay, cool, And. 2654 02:10:48,600 --> 02:10:52,000 Speaker 5: My mindset is, oh, this is a new. 2655 02:10:55,320 --> 02:10:59,160 Speaker 2: Canvas. It's a new canvas for me to go back 2656 02:10:59,200 --> 02:10:59,840 Speaker 2: to one again. 2657 02:11:00,400 --> 02:11:02,560 Speaker 3: When they sing too like, you know what I. 2658 02:11:02,600 --> 02:11:05,520 Speaker 2: Mean, So I'm like, if I make this one ring. 2659 02:11:05,560 --> 02:11:07,360 Speaker 3: He's a piece of ship, but he can solve. 2660 02:11:11,160 --> 02:11:11,680 Speaker 2: As a human. 2661 02:11:11,720 --> 02:11:12,520 Speaker 3: He's a real piece of. 2662 02:11:15,040 --> 02:11:15,240 Speaker 6: God. 2663 02:11:15,520 --> 02:11:16,040 Speaker 3: I'm joking. 2664 02:11:17,080 --> 02:11:19,440 Speaker 2: So I'm I'm looking at that saying, you know, I'm 2665 02:11:19,440 --> 02:11:21,200 Speaker 2: gonna go back to one. I'm gonna do that, go 2666 02:11:21,240 --> 02:11:24,200 Speaker 2: back to one boom and get that to ten. And 2667 02:11:24,280 --> 02:11:26,520 Speaker 2: that's just my that's my that's my game. 2668 02:11:26,560 --> 02:11:28,400 Speaker 7: I think it's still I think it's still crazy. And 2669 02:11:28,400 --> 02:11:29,520 Speaker 7: I think I might have told you this when we 2670 02:11:29,600 --> 02:11:32,120 Speaker 7: went to Magic City. The fact that you still go 2671 02:11:32,200 --> 02:11:35,000 Speaker 7: to the DJ booth with the record of the artist 2672 02:11:35,040 --> 02:11:36,720 Speaker 7: that you're working with and give it to the DJ 2673 02:11:36,840 --> 02:11:39,879 Speaker 7: to play it, after all of your accolades and success 2674 02:11:39,920 --> 02:11:42,440 Speaker 7: and the legendary icon that you are. To me, that's 2675 02:11:42,480 --> 02:11:45,880 Speaker 7: still the craziest flex ever that you still do that, 2676 02:11:46,600 --> 02:11:48,640 Speaker 7: take the record to the DJ and like you play this. 2677 02:11:49,680 --> 02:11:51,680 Speaker 8: Dudes at your level, your stead, they're not doing that. 2678 02:11:52,320 --> 02:11:55,280 Speaker 2: But you know why I do it. You want to 2679 02:11:55,320 --> 02:11:55,840 Speaker 2: know why I do it? 2680 02:11:55,920 --> 02:11:56,120 Speaker 6: Why? 2681 02:11:56,720 --> 02:11:59,640 Speaker 2: Because I feel like it's a gift and the curse. 2682 02:11:59,680 --> 02:12:03,920 Speaker 2: Because I have these fucking paralyzed records, right I have 2683 02:12:04,040 --> 02:12:07,960 Speaker 2: records that have paralyzed DJs that when I go to 2684 02:12:08,040 --> 02:12:11,400 Speaker 2: the club it's a certain five records that they just 2685 02:12:11,600 --> 02:12:17,120 Speaker 2: automatically play Welcome to Atlanta, Money and anything like you 2686 02:12:17,200 --> 02:12:18,040 Speaker 2: by Bow Wow. 2687 02:12:20,480 --> 02:12:21,440 Speaker 5: Pays for sure. 2688 02:12:22,240 --> 02:12:24,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, they might play two Usher records right now. These 2689 02:12:24,320 --> 02:12:27,640 Speaker 2: are paralyzed to me. These are the records that paralyze 2690 02:12:27,640 --> 02:12:31,080 Speaker 2: you and make you like that make me seem like 2691 02:12:31,120 --> 02:12:33,560 Speaker 2: I'm stuck in that era. Right, So when I go 2692 02:12:33,600 --> 02:12:35,560 Speaker 2: to the club, I don't want to hear Welcome to Atlanta. 2693 02:12:35,920 --> 02:12:37,840 Speaker 2: Not in twenty twenty one. 2694 02:12:38,480 --> 02:12:38,680 Speaker 6: Right. 2695 02:12:38,720 --> 02:12:39,960 Speaker 5: We was in the club other night. I was in 2696 02:12:40,000 --> 02:12:41,560 Speaker 5: honest other in the daytime, and. 2697 02:12:41,680 --> 02:12:44,880 Speaker 2: They ship and the nigga's playing Welcome Towards and I'm like, 2698 02:12:45,160 --> 02:12:47,320 Speaker 2: it ain't even It's just me. 2699 02:12:47,280 --> 02:12:49,800 Speaker 5: And him in here. 2700 02:12:50,760 --> 02:12:51,480 Speaker 2: We're in Atlanta. 2701 02:12:51,600 --> 02:12:54,360 Speaker 4: You don't need to work out Atlanta. 2702 02:12:54,640 --> 02:12:54,840 Speaker 5: Yo. 2703 02:12:55,000 --> 02:12:55,600 Speaker 2: Wait a minute. 2704 02:12:55,960 --> 02:12:58,240 Speaker 5: I went to the DJO. Cut that off. 2705 02:12:58,320 --> 02:13:01,200 Speaker 2: I say, Yo, my nigga, listen, if you don't play 2706 02:13:01,240 --> 02:13:04,720 Speaker 2: that pressure right now, I need to hear pressure right 2707 02:13:05,160 --> 02:13:07,480 Speaker 2: because moving the strip, yeah, please. 2708 02:13:07,720 --> 02:13:09,640 Speaker 5: There's some pressure come on about. I was like, man, 2709 02:13:10,040 --> 02:13:10,920 Speaker 5: every girl. 2710 02:13:10,680 --> 02:13:13,120 Speaker 10: In here that I did say that, I'm so tired 2711 02:13:13,120 --> 02:13:15,080 Speaker 10: of this ship. I'm like, yo, every time I click 2712 02:13:15,120 --> 02:13:18,960 Speaker 10: on I g pressure. At least like the girl, I 2713 02:13:18,960 --> 02:13:22,400 Speaker 10: love definitely doing some type of ships press strip club. 2714 02:13:22,440 --> 02:13:24,879 Speaker 5: I'm like you look at the bar tender, look yeah, 2715 02:13:25,240 --> 02:13:26,040 Speaker 5: pouring shots up. 2716 02:13:26,120 --> 02:13:28,160 Speaker 3: She's singing what more did the Magic City? 2717 02:13:28,800 --> 02:13:30,920 Speaker 8: I was chilling, like what was he doing? What was his? 2718 02:13:32,760 --> 02:13:35,800 Speaker 5: How that go without me? You? 2719 02:13:36,000 --> 02:13:36,360 Speaker 6: You did? 2720 02:13:37,160 --> 02:13:38,960 Speaker 2: And we're gonna get to what pictures you just. 2721 02:13:38,880 --> 02:13:40,840 Speaker 5: Don't now We're about to up this ship. 2722 02:13:41,600 --> 02:13:42,320 Speaker 3: We did the history. 2723 02:13:42,480 --> 02:13:45,120 Speaker 5: No, no, you was. 2724 02:13:45,240 --> 02:13:45,920 Speaker 6: You was there that night? 2725 02:13:45,960 --> 02:13:46,400 Speaker 8: You was there? 2726 02:13:46,880 --> 02:13:48,320 Speaker 6: But yeah, you was there? 2727 02:13:48,720 --> 02:13:49,360 Speaker 8: Yeah? 2728 02:13:50,280 --> 02:13:53,000 Speaker 3: How you asked that they was there? 2729 02:13:53,480 --> 02:13:54,640 Speaker 8: Your tension was everywhere. 2730 02:13:54,920 --> 02:13:57,000 Speaker 7: Every five minutes, you had somebody tapping you, the girl 2731 02:13:57,120 --> 02:14:00,280 Speaker 7: tapping you know. He was all over h ain't no 2732 02:14:00,320 --> 02:14:01,600 Speaker 7: a llegenedd he letting his ship fly. 2733 02:14:01,760 --> 02:14:04,880 Speaker 10: What I might be the only nigga like in the 2734 02:14:04,920 --> 02:14:09,040 Speaker 10: history in not just city to like go downstairs in 2735 02:14:09,120 --> 02:14:12,000 Speaker 10: the dressing room all the girls be at and like 2736 02:14:12,080 --> 02:14:12,880 Speaker 10: through like maybe like. 2737 02:14:12,840 --> 02:14:16,360 Speaker 5: Fifteen thousand, like get your ship also and they can 2738 02:14:16,440 --> 02:14:17,000 Speaker 5: vounce for that. 2739 02:14:17,320 --> 02:14:20,840 Speaker 8: Mm hmm. No, listen, we clear on the show to 2740 02:14:20,920 --> 02:14:21,760 Speaker 8: go downstairs. 2741 02:14:22,000 --> 02:14:24,480 Speaker 5: They when they crow their hair. 2742 02:14:24,400 --> 02:14:26,040 Speaker 3: Round, I can make I can teach you how to 2743 02:14:26,080 --> 02:14:27,040 Speaker 3: make a race for. 2744 02:14:27,040 --> 02:14:28,800 Speaker 10: All that where they get ready to look good for 2745 02:14:28,880 --> 02:14:30,480 Speaker 10: niggas like us to like to walk in that type 2746 02:14:30,520 --> 02:14:34,800 Speaker 10: of Yeah, you nigga to ever go downstairs and do 2747 02:14:34,880 --> 02:14:36,040 Speaker 10: what I did, No. 2748 02:14:36,080 --> 02:14:38,040 Speaker 8: Cat Jad, you ain't do that. Don't look at them 2749 02:14:38,040 --> 02:14:40,280 Speaker 8: like that. J never do that. You ain't do that. 2750 02:14:40,480 --> 02:14:43,320 Speaker 2: Once you there do, I gotta teach them how to. 2751 02:14:43,320 --> 02:14:47,400 Speaker 7: Make you gotta go down there, you gotta you gotta 2752 02:14:47,440 --> 02:14:49,400 Speaker 7: go down there and throw twenty if he threw fifteen, 2753 02:14:51,120 --> 02:14:51,360 Speaker 7: because I 2754 02:14:51,440 --> 02:14:53,200 Speaker 5: Might hear you do that, and I'm gonna do thirty, 2755 02:14:54,640 --> 02:14:55,920 Speaker 5: No worry, no,