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Speaker 1: What two three breaks down in the middle of the feeling?

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Speaker 2: Down in the one yard line?

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Speaker 3: How about that?

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Speaker 2: That is the ultimate com.

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Speaker 4: here to talk about what just went down in week

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Speaker 4: thirteen and look ahead the Monday night and Thursday night

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Speaker 4: football Ahead. I'm Ian Hardest, director of the Fantasy Labs,

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Speaker 4: NFL product in Action Network analyst here with me as

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Speaker 4: always Chris Raybond, co host of I'll Take That Bet

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Speaker 4: on ESPN Plus and senior editor in NFL analysts that

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Speaker 4: Action Nework and Fantasy Labs.

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Speaker 3: Chris, what's going on? Man? What is up?

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Speaker 2: Excited?

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Speaker 5: Man?

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Speaker 2: I just watched this Raiders Chief shootout? Man, life is good.

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Speaker 4: Raiders Chief shootout. We got ad manou in the first half.

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Speaker 4: It's an exciting day of football.

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Speaker 2: Coach Jack shootout.

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Speaker 3: You know, Oh my god.

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Speaker 4: All right, we'll get things started with some of our

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Speaker 4: best and worst core plays of the week.

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Speaker 6: Some players pay and some players sligh. Who are the

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Speaker 6: bankroll builders and bankroll killers? From Week thirteen?

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Speaker 4: All right, Chris, this is back to back weeks. I

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Speaker 4: believe that we were pretty much on the same page

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Speaker 4: with our best and worst plays. How about you started

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Speaker 4: off with your best play of the week.

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Speaker 5: I mean it's you know, Travis Kelsey, when he scores

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Speaker 2: I mean that was Mahomes Kelsey, all these guys.

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Speaker 5: I mean it's the Chiefs. They're going inst raiders. Everyone

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Speaker 5: bowled out. I guess Spencer Way I had an OK

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Speaker 5: day and everything, But you know you're gonna see some

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Speaker 4: There's a little bit of an edge here with these

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Speaker 4: tight ends that are more or less they're team's number

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Speaker 4: so maybe their price a little bit lower than they

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Speaker 2: Oh absolutely, in situations.

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Speaker 5: I think it really comes up a lot when you're

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Speaker 5: because a lot of people don't always think about that,

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Speaker 5: number one receiver probably like at least a thousand dollars more.

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Speaker 5: So anytime you have those guys, I think those can

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Speaker 4: Tournaments definitely, And we saw that today. We'll get to

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Speaker 4: that million maker lineup in a bit. All right, worse

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Speaker 4: But here we are you see any like I guess

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Speaker 2: Not necessarily.

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Speaker 4: We have seen the joke and some of those other

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Speaker 2: I'm the trash man.

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Speaker 5: Just throw me the trash, your garbage, and you know

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Speaker 4: This week's trash man is We're gonna go with spencer Ware.

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Speaker 4: There wasn't a kind of twenty percent plus owned person that.

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Speaker 4: But I think considering where it was owned in sixty

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Speaker 3: Obviously, Kareem Hunt news was dropped Friday.

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Speaker 4: If you follow at Fantasy Labs NFL, you knew about

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Speaker 2: So, you know, I think anytime you got a player that's.

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Speaker 4: That's right, Joe, the Indianapolis Colts. Neither the Colts nor

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Speaker 4: All right, now, we're going to take a quick review

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Speaker 4: of the winning millionaire Maker lineup from Adam Legbert.

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Speaker 6: Becoming a DFS millionaire. Talk about a dream come true.

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Speaker 6: What DraftKings lineup lived a daily fantasy fantasy this weekend?

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Speaker 4: All right, this week's a millionaire Maker was actually one

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Speaker 4: check to get it done. He had a Patrick Mahomes,

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Speaker 4: two slots, Todd Gurley, and Aaron Jones. Again some of

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Speaker 4: We had Za Jones, quarter Paterson crazy DraftKings qualifies him there,

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Speaker 4: but Courtland Sutton and the wide receiver three spot flex

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Speaker 4: And finally, the Texans defense at home against the Browns.

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Speaker 4: Chris thoughts on this one million dollar making lineup.

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Speaker 5: I mean, you know, I'm sure, we all had Cordella

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Speaker 4: I actually got a Twitter message this morning and they go, hey, man,

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Speaker 2: I mean I should have.

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Speaker 2: A revenge game man.

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Speaker 5: And it's crazy too, because he scored a seven point nine.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So like this is what happens when you nail

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Speaker 5: You see you often see this on DraftKings, just because

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Speaker 5: And like Tarik Cohen though, he's just like every play,

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Speaker 5: That's again why I don't think like spencer Ware was

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Speaker 2: So great, great lineup, I think any any other thoughts to.

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Speaker 4: You, Yeah, I think you hit on most of it, man,

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Speaker 5: And just real quick on Buffalo you mentioned it with like,

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Speaker 5: Like it was like Josh Allen made I mean, you

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Speaker 5: and the game is gonna be over. And somehow he

441
00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:10,199
Speaker 5: just like keeps like dropping back, gets out of it,

442
00:18:10,280 --> 00:18:12,800
Speaker 5: rolls all the way back across the field, comes up

443
00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:16,399
Speaker 5: throwing like manages to spot a wide open Charles Klay

444
00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:18,959
Speaker 5: in the end zone, you know, kind of throws across

445
00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:20,800
Speaker 5: his body, so you know, the balls kind of I

446
00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:22,200
Speaker 5: believe it made it to the goal line, are a

447
00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:24,480
Speaker 5: little further past the goal line, Clay is kind of

448
00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:26,680
Speaker 5: coming back to it and just could just dropped it

449
00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:29,040
Speaker 5: and the game was over. But I mean, you know,

450
00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:32,160
Speaker 5: I think I think there's a bright future with with

451
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Speaker 5: with Allen and you know, the coaching staff.

452
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Speaker 2: I think, uh, you know, Sean mcdermot's done a really

453
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Speaker 2: good job.

454
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Speaker 5: Even last year we saw you know, kind of maximizing

455
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Speaker 5: what he had dragging that team to the playoffs. So

456
00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:43,680
Speaker 5: I think in fantasy you have to really start taking

457
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Speaker 5: this team a little more seriously too, because Evan Silver

458
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Speaker 5: pointed it out.

459
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Speaker 2: These rushing quarterbacks are They're a new wave.

460
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Speaker 5: Like it's like like guys like Philip Rivers have been

461
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Speaker 5: putting up, you know, having excellent seasons and yet they're

462
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Speaker 5: almost irrelevant Fantasy in most weeks because they're not adding

463
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Speaker 5: any with their legs. So you know, you'll see like

464
00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:04,159
Speaker 5: ey Manning goes seventeen for eighteen in one of his

465
00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:05,720
Speaker 5: best gets of the year, and like it's like he's

466
00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:07,600
Speaker 5: not really giving you anything because he's not he's not

467
00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:09,800
Speaker 5: getting you those extra points on the ground.

468
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Speaker 2: Tom Brady mediocre, all these guys.

469
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Speaker 5: So Josh Allen is a guy that I think if

470
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Speaker 5: he's on your waiver wire, and there's a there's a

471
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Speaker 5: perception about him or whatever. I mean, you got to

472
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Speaker 5: pick this guy up. He's rushing for like over one

473
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Speaker 5: hundred yards in these games. You know, high upside quarterback

474
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Speaker 5: going forward.

475
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Speaker 4: Yeah, Josh Allen today joined Michael Vick, Colin Kaepernick, and

476
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Speaker 4: Robert Griffin the third RG three as the only qbs

477
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Speaker 4: with over one hundred and thirty rushing yards in the

478
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Speaker 4: game over the last twenty years.

479
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Speaker 3: So this is like the highest rushing ceiling we can have.

480
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Speaker 4: Basically, Josh Allen has demonstrated, so definitely a guy to

481
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Speaker 4: keep an eye on moving forward. And we'll talk a

482
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Speaker 4: little bit more about him later. Next up, we're gonna

483
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Speaker 4: look at some of the day's biggest injuries.

484
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Speaker 6: Keep your head on a swivel for the injury report.

485
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Speaker 4: Was not the prettiest day. We have had a couple

486
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Speaker 4: key ones here to talk about. First up, Panthers tight

487
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Speaker 4: end Greg Old and he ruptured the planter facilla. My

488
00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:07,199
Speaker 4: bad on mispronouncing that in his foot. The season is

489
00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:09,720
Speaker 4: expected to be over from my understanding, you know, he's

490
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Speaker 4: already playing.

491
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Speaker 3: With the screw in his foot.

492
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Speaker 4: He missed plenty of time earlier this year, so basically

493
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Speaker 4: reinjured that and it's looking like he will miss the

494
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Speaker 4: rest of the season. We did see Ian Thomas come

495
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Speaker 4: in weeks two through five with Olson's sideline, had at

496
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Speaker 4: least three targets, and all those games came in today

497
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Speaker 4: in relief and had five targets. Chris thoughts on Ian

498
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Speaker 4: Thomas as the Panthers starting tight on moving forward.

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Speaker 2: I think when Ian Thomas is in there, you know.

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Speaker 2: So today we.

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Speaker 5: Kind of saw Ian Thomas catch some passes. It was

502
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Speaker 5: kind of more of a garbage time look where in

503
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Speaker 5: the fourth they were playing prevot defense. They kind of

504
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Speaker 5: just wined Thomas up and he was getting some making

505
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Speaker 5: some plays. You might see him pop up he in

506
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Speaker 5: that here and there. But what I think is probably

507
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Speaker 5: going to happen is you're gonna see the targets redistributed

508
00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:54,119
Speaker 5: a little bit more to these wide receivers that are

509
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Speaker 5: really coming on. I mean, you know, Curtis, Samuel, DJ

510
00:20:57,119 --> 00:21:00,159
Speaker 5: Moore have really been flashing, and you still have you

511
00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:02,080
Speaker 5: just had Devin Funch just come back, and you have

512
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Speaker 5: you still of course have McCaffrey, you have Tory Smith

513
00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:07,680
Speaker 5: and and Jarius right who they like to use as well.

514
00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:09,920
Speaker 5: So I think you know Thomas is the guy. Yeah,

515
00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:12,320
Speaker 5: if you're desperate for a tight end, you pick him up.

516
00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:14,480
Speaker 5: But he's not really I don't think it'll be able.

517
00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:17,040
Speaker 5: We're not going to be able to reliably project any

518
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Speaker 5: type of decent floor for him on a week to

519
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Speaker 5: week bas especially with these emerging wide receivers.

520
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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's tough to be too high on any of

521
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Speaker 4: these tight ends that just aren't really getting targets generated

522
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Speaker 4: for themselves.

523
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Speaker 3: They just got to be that checkdown option. But we'll

524
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Speaker 3: see what you can give us moving forward, right.

525
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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I mean absolutely.

526
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Speaker 5: And one thing I will say is like you will

527
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Speaker 5: probably get at least Matt mccos production out of out

528
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Speaker 5: of Ian Thomas.

529
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Speaker 2: If you pick him up.

530
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Speaker 3: So yeah, at least at least poor Matt costs. Man,

531
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Speaker 3: I was so high throughout that poor.

532
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Speaker 5: I don't know for you, like for less money on

533
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Speaker 5: this guy costs like one. And I'm sure he's feeling great.

534
00:21:58,000 --> 00:21:59,960
Speaker 5: He's a tight end. He probably laid a killer block

535
00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:04,040
Speaker 5: he's getting like, yeah, you never thought he'd be a

536
00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:06,120
Speaker 5: starting titan on the Denver Brock. I mean, how many Jake,

537
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Speaker 5: But like everyone went, he's like he's not like their

538
00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:09,679
Speaker 5: fourth tight end.

539
00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:18,000
Speaker 4: Oh good him, poor Chris Ravan lacrosse is fine and making.

540
00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:18,720
Speaker 2: And everyone out there that listen to us, it was

541
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Speaker 2: like great value, great value.

542
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Speaker 3: Oh man.

543
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Speaker 4: Moving on, we w actual he's sticking this game. We're

544
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Speaker 4: looking at Aj Green the other side of the ball.

545
00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:33,480
Speaker 4: AJ tried to come back this week from the foot injury. Man,

546
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Speaker 4: it looked bad. I'm not sure if it was just

547
00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:38,399
Speaker 4: too early, but pretty much non contact foot problem. He

548
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Speaker 4: was seeing a boot afterwards.

549
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Speaker 3: Season. It's expected to be over.

550
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Speaker 4: So we've seen kind of Tyler Boyd in this offense

551
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Speaker 4: without Aj Green the ceilings down. With that said, it's

552
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Speaker 4: at least this a doable end the season stretch. We

553
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Speaker 4: got the Chargers, the Raiders, the Browns, and the Steelers.

554
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Speaker 4: I'm just wondering, like, is there anything to approach in

555
00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:01,199
Speaker 4: this Bengals offense? Slash, What are your thoughts kind of

556
00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:02,640
Speaker 4: on Jeff Driscoll moving forward?

557
00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:04,520
Speaker 2: Driscoll I think is interesting.

558
00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:07,000
Speaker 5: I think Drisco I think he's another one of those

559
00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:09,080
Speaker 5: guys like we've seen him run around before.

560
00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:11,120
Speaker 2: He didn't really run in this game, but.

561
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Speaker 3: He was doing a bunch last week for sure.

562
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Speaker 5: Right right now, you know I believe it was pre

563
00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:17,480
Speaker 5: I've seen him like do that in the preseason as well,

564
00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:19,520
Speaker 5: so you know, I think he I think he has

565
00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:21,640
Speaker 5: a little bit upside, like he's another guy. Again, if

566
00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:23,920
Speaker 5: these guys that have any little bit of rushing ability

567
00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:25,800
Speaker 5: or on your waiver wire, you know, and you need

568
00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:27,719
Speaker 5: a quarterback or you just need a you know, an

569
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Speaker 5: extra guy that might give you some upside down the

570
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Speaker 5: stretcher or to protect an asset at that you already

571
00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:33,800
Speaker 5: have a quarterback, I say, pick him up. But obviously

572
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Speaker 5: Tyler Boyd continues to put the targets on his plate

573
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Speaker 5: first and foremost.

574
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Speaker 2: You know, we do see sometimes that.

575
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Speaker 5: It's tough for it's a little easier for defenses to

576
00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:44,840
Speaker 5: defend a guy like Boyd when a guy like AJ

577
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Speaker 5: Green is out.

578
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Speaker 2: So it's not necessarily the most ideal thing.

579
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Speaker 5: But I mean, at this point, you know, he's he's

580
00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:52,159
Speaker 5: been a guy that's shown he can step up, and

581
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Speaker 5: I think, you know, going forward, he's going to continue

582
00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:58,040
Speaker 5: to be that top guy with the target share you know,

583
00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:00,360
Speaker 5: above twenty percent. I think it was twenty two coming

584
00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:02,480
Speaker 5: in to this game. So you know, Boyd is a

585
00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:04,879
Speaker 5: guy you gotta like. And next week they play the

586
00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:08,240
Speaker 5: Los Angeles Chargers. Now that is a tough matchup generally

587
00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:11,080
Speaker 5: for receivers at any position because you have Casey Hayward,

588
00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:13,800
Speaker 5: you have you know, Desmond King in the slot, so

589
00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:15,000
Speaker 5: you just have a lot of good players.

590
00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:17,320
Speaker 2: So that that's a tough matchup that he's kind of

591
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Speaker 2: in that.

592
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Speaker 5: You know more, I'd say, you know, wide receiver two

593
00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:22,879
Speaker 5: ish fringe still you know wide receiver two three fringe

594
00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:24,560
Speaker 5: for that matchup. But after that, you know, they got

595
00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:25,960
Speaker 5: a match up with the Open Raiders, they got a

596
00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:28,600
Speaker 5: match up with the with the Cleveland Browns where you

597
00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:31,360
Speaker 5: know he could probably avoid Denzel Ward. So I think,

598
00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:33,200
Speaker 5: you know, for the last two games of the Fantasy Player,

599
00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:35,879
Speaker 5: if you're looking at some good high upside spots for

600
00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:37,480
Speaker 5: for Tyler board, and I think you know, John Ross

601
00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:39,480
Speaker 5: is another guy that really been an ugly start to

602
00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:41,800
Speaker 5: the career for him. But you know, he seems to

603
00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:43,760
Speaker 5: be able to kind of either score or you know,

604
00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:46,000
Speaker 5: make a make like one or two splash plays the

605
00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:48,600
Speaker 5: game when aj Green is out and gives you something

606
00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:51,040
Speaker 5: with some upside. You know, if he ever was able

607
00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:52,880
Speaker 5: to get to command more volume. So I think he's

608
00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:54,399
Speaker 5: another guy that you want to look for to pick up.

609
00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:56,479
Speaker 5: And of course you know, I'm sure you and I

610
00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:59,600
Speaker 5: will be uh will be drawn back into maybe like

611
00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:03,119
Speaker 5: a siege. Have another Matt Lacost situation we can be

612
00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:05,520
Speaker 5: talking about on the pod next week. So I'm you know,

613
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Speaker 5: I'm excited for that that the next two sec.

614
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Speaker 4: I've a managed to frame myself from CZ for most

615
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Speaker 4: of the season. I don't know, Man, I might at

616
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Speaker 4: the itch one really good point there on Boyd in

617
00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:17,720
Speaker 4: the slot. I mean, it's going to be tough against

618
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Speaker 4: the Chargers with a King on the inside and Heyward

619
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Speaker 4: on the outside, But I mean Raiders an't stopping anyone.

620
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Speaker 4: But yet Boyd should avoid the Denzel Award in week

621
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Speaker 4: sixteen and then Joe Hayden in week seventeen. So definitely

622
00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:30,320
Speaker 4: something to keep an eye on when you got your

623
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Speaker 4: number one receiver working out of the slot.

624
00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:36,240
Speaker 3: All right, Next situation a little bit lower key.

625
00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:39,439
Speaker 4: But Malcolm Brown, the Rams number two running back who

626
00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:41,760
Speaker 4: we've been seeing get a little more run lately, especially

627
00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:44,280
Speaker 4: in that Chief Rams game when Girley was banged up

628
00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:47,879
Speaker 4: herd his shoulder and could not return. Severity of the

629
00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:50,840
Speaker 4: injury is not known, but this is a situation. I

630
00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:52,920
Speaker 4: think we should probably start talking about how to kind

631
00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:55,920
Speaker 4: of approach this Rams offense moving into these final weeks,

632
00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:58,919
Speaker 4: especially in season long, because they're eleven to one. I

633
00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:01,920
Speaker 4: believe they've already clinched a playoff spot and they're well

634
00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:04,520
Speaker 4: on their way to clinching home field avantage for weeks

635
00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:05,080
Speaker 4: to spare.

636
00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:07,120
Speaker 3: I believe Bill Bonmwell actually.

637
00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:09,639
Speaker 4: Called this out like weeks ago, basically saying that just

638
00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:12,520
Speaker 4: be careful owning these Rams guys because we be looking

639
00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:16,040
Speaker 4: at a situation where McVeigh is potentially resting backups in

640
00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:19,399
Speaker 4: weeks fifteen, sixteen seventeen, and we'll see how he does it.

641
00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:21,240
Speaker 3: But there's just some un certain to here.

642
00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:23,680
Speaker 4: So Chris, my questions for you, what are your thoughts

643
00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:26,520
Speaker 4: on John Kelly, their rookie running back that could potentially

644
00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:29,080
Speaker 4: now be the handoff to own And two, what are

645
00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:31,359
Speaker 4: your thoughts is Rams offense if we are going to

646
00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:34,080
Speaker 4: have to consider playing these guys, you know, when they're

647
00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:35,120
Speaker 4: dealing with backups.

648
00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:38,679
Speaker 5: Yeah, so that's a that's a really sharp call. I

649
00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:41,000
Speaker 5: think with Kelly, I think you definitely pick him up.

650
00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:43,760
Speaker 5: Like if if John Kelly is on your wire, on

651
00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:45,880
Speaker 5: your waiver wire, whatever free agent.

652
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Speaker 2: You pick him up.

653
00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:49,400
Speaker 5: I'd even spend some some faa B on it, because

654
00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:52,080
Speaker 5: this guy could be a league winner if Malcolm Brown

655
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Speaker 5: is by any chance hurt or out, you know, if

656
00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:56,800
Speaker 5: he's this got could be a league winner if you know,

657
00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:59,520
Speaker 5: if you gets to start for Todd Gurwy in Week sixteen,

658
00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:00,560
Speaker 5: or if it.

659
00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:02,199
Speaker 2: Was Todd Gurley just happens to get hurt, you know.

660
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Speaker 5: I mean we've seen Todd Gurley, you know, in the

661
00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:06,359
Speaker 5: in his smash spot of the year against the Chiefs,

662
00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:08,159
Speaker 5: you know, kind of dinged up his ankle early and

663
00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:11,320
Speaker 5: wasn't really a factor in that game. So definitely, John

664
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:13,639
Speaker 5: Kelly is a guy who you know, hasn't really I.

665
00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:15,200
Speaker 2: Don't has he been active yet this year?

666
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:19,280
Speaker 4: He hasn't, right, I don't think so, because when, yeah,

667
00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:21,520
Speaker 4: when Brown did get hurt, there was concern because Gurley

668
00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:22,600
Speaker 4: was the only running back left.

669
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:25,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, So I mean I think that, especially because the

670
00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:28,240
Speaker 5: Rams you know, have not really made him active or

671
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:30,359
Speaker 5: put him on the field, I think that down the stretch,

672
00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:32,960
Speaker 5: if you see, if they have a chance to kind

673
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:36,200
Speaker 5: of get him just some reps in situations, I think

674
00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:38,960
Speaker 5: they definitely would take the opportunity to do that, unless,

675
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:40,240
Speaker 5: of course, you know, they go out and find a

676
00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:42,320
Speaker 5: free agent back and see what happens. But yeah, Kelly's

677
00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:43,880
Speaker 5: the guy you definitely want to pick up. And then

678
00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:46,040
Speaker 5: as far as approaching the offense, I think you do

679
00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:47,320
Speaker 5: have to kind of be wary of that. I mean,

680
00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:49,840
Speaker 5: I'm sure Josh Reynolds is long long picked up. If

681
00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:52,159
Speaker 5: that's a guy that I think he'd probably be a

682
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:54,960
Speaker 5: little more safer, only because I think he's another guy

683
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:56,679
Speaker 5: that going toward the playoffs, they'd want to get as

684
00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:59,040
Speaker 5: many reps as they can for him. So I think

685
00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:00,600
Speaker 5: he'd be a guy that would st on the field,

686
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:02,760
Speaker 5: even if you know, maybe maybe they kind of.

687
00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:04,919
Speaker 2: Plaited a little safer with you know, some of the

688
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:05,440
Speaker 2: other guys.

689
00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:08,200
Speaker 5: But you know, until until we really get a sense

690
00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:09,720
Speaker 5: of that happening, I think you just have to take

691
00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:11,600
Speaker 5: it week by week and be prepared by you know,

692
00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:14,359
Speaker 5: picking up Kelly because it's really no other receiver that

693
00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:16,840
Speaker 5: you could really pick up off the wire that would

694
00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:18,680
Speaker 5: that would help you out in that situation. And then

695
00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:20,320
Speaker 5: you know, the tight ends, I'm not I'm not sure

696
00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:24,080
Speaker 5: exactly what would happen if I think Everett Everett and Higbee.

697
00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:26,160
Speaker 5: You know, ever, it's the guy I think you want

698
00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:28,119
Speaker 5: if there's a if there's gonna be a guy to

699
00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:30,080
Speaker 5: have some some upside. But I don't know if he

700
00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:32,439
Speaker 5: necessarily benefits at all, if they're resting people or not.

701
00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:34,440
Speaker 5: But so I think it's really it's really Kelly is

702
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:35,520
Speaker 5: the guy you're looking for.

703
00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:37,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, then I was gonna say the only other guy

704
00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:40,840
Speaker 4: I could even think of would be Everett, But like

705
00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:42,920
Speaker 4: you said, it wouldn't be surprising too if he just

706
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:45,760
Speaker 4: didn't really even play with the backups, considering the amount

707
00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:47,960
Speaker 4: of run he already gets. All Right, and I'm gonna

708
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:50,880
Speaker 4: take a quick look at two kind of workload situations

709
00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:51,640
Speaker 4: around the league.

710
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:53,800
Speaker 3: First one, we'll be looking at an.

711
00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:57,560
Speaker 4: Entirely new Green Bay Packers offense next week because Mike

712
00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:01,440
Speaker 4: McCarthy has been fired. Obviously, today the Packers could not

713
00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:04,440
Speaker 4: even beat Josh Rosen the Arizona Cardinals at home. A

714
00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:07,080
Speaker 4: rough year for kind of Aaron Rodgers and the offense

715
00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:09,720
Speaker 4: in general just haven't seen them flip that switch and

716
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:11,840
Speaker 4: get back into the elite unit that we kind of

717
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:14,360
Speaker 4: get used to seeing around this time of the year. Chris,

718
00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:17,120
Speaker 4: what are your thoughts here with Joe Filman taken over,

719
00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:20,160
Speaker 4: and do you think there's any hope to be kind

720
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:23,680
Speaker 4: of saved here in this From a fancy perspective with Bay, I.

721
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:25,760
Speaker 5: Mean, you know, from a fancy perspective, I don't think

722
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:26,360
Speaker 5: much changes.

723
00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:29,800
Speaker 2: You're still you still got Aaron Rodgers, you still got Aaron.

724
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:32,560
Speaker 5: Jones, you still have DeVante Adams, and those guys are

725
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:33,200
Speaker 5: always going.

726
00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:36,480
Speaker 2: To be staples. Maybe maybe we see, excuse me, Jimmy

727
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:37,800
Speaker 2: Graham get a little bit more involved.

728
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:40,960
Speaker 5: Was involved today, but hasn't really been involved that consistently

729
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:44,200
Speaker 5: earlier the season, I should say. And you know, besides that,

730
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:45,960
Speaker 5: I mean, I think it keeps on humming. It's tough

731
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:48,720
Speaker 5: to gauge the team because it's really a letdown game

732
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:50,040
Speaker 5: where you know, they came out and said, hey, we're

733
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:51,880
Speaker 5: going to run the table, We're gonna make these playoffs,

734
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:54,000
Speaker 5: and I mean that dream is kind of shot. So

735
00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:55,600
Speaker 5: you wonder how the rest of the team kind of

736
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:58,880
Speaker 5: responds to the situation where it's, you know, yeah, you

737
00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:00,520
Speaker 5: have the new coach, and you know that that usually

738
00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:03,400
Speaker 5: kind of galvanizes the team, but with them kind of

739
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:05,000
Speaker 5: being just kind of being a game where they're kind

740
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:06,120
Speaker 5: of knocked out, essentially.

741
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:07,600
Speaker 2: It's tough to gauge.

742
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:09,280
Speaker 5: So I think you just kind of look at it

743
00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:11,600
Speaker 5: from the same way you've always approached it, which is

744
00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:14,720
Speaker 5: you trust Rogers, you trust Adams, and you trust Jones.

745
00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:17,320
Speaker 5: And I mean these pass catchers, I mean you're looking

746
00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:19,280
Speaker 5: at them, and I guess you're trying to find some

747
00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:22,560
Speaker 5: value there with you know, Cobb is back so bald.

748
00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:24,000
Speaker 2: That scaling me. It looks like he's going to go

749
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:25,360
Speaker 2: back to a lesser role.

750
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:27,040
Speaker 5: Hasn't really popped quite as much though, did have some

751
00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:29,640
Speaker 5: rushing production in this game, but it's.

752
00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:30,640
Speaker 2: Just the same Olden Green Bay.

753
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:32,520
Speaker 5: We just hope that they get back on track in

754
00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:34,800
Speaker 5: terms of Rogers putting getting back to the ceiling numbers,

755
00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:37,920
Speaker 5: because even Rodgers hasn't really been a ceiling quarterback that

756
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:38,560
Speaker 5: much this year.

757
00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:41,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, haven't even see it at these home games. I'm

758
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:44,360
Speaker 4: with you on all that, man, But are we positive

759
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:46,880
Speaker 4: we can trust Aaron Jones booving forward? Because I thought

760
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:49,800
Speaker 4: we were, but then today happens and Jones has thirty

761
00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:52,680
Speaker 4: nine snaps and Jamalt Williams has thirty eight. I know

762
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:55,040
Speaker 4: it was a funky game and everything, but you would

763
00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:57,480
Speaker 4: just think that, you know, if you've kind of seen

764
00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:00,440
Speaker 4: the problems presented to the Packers this year, that the

765
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:02,840
Speaker 4: new play caller would just not to feed the most

766
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:05,640
Speaker 4: effective guy in the running game. But I mean, are

767
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:08,160
Speaker 4: you expecting more of a split backfield moving forward or

768
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 4: hopefully it just goes back to Jones.

769
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:10,320
Speaker 2: Yeah.

770
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:12,760
Speaker 5: I mean I think that it's clear that like Jones

771
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:15,160
Speaker 5: has shown over and over again that he's their best runner,

772
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:18,200
Speaker 5: and he's also shown that he can be an asset

773
00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:20,120
Speaker 5: in the passing game as well. I think, you know,

774
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:23,760
Speaker 5: Jamal Williams good passbocker, solid fundamental player. I think he'll

775
00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 5: always get burned. It's just you know, from game to game.

776
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:28,280
Speaker 5: I don't think you can, like I don't think you

777
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:32,160
Speaker 5: can overweight like the thirty ninth stats in this one game,

778
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:34,760
Speaker 5: because I think every situation in the league out outside

779
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:37,000
Speaker 5: of maybe Todd Growy and a few others are you know,

780
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:39,120
Speaker 5: you have these kind of committee backfields and they fluctuate

781
00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:40,640
Speaker 5: from week to week. So as long as you have

782
00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:42,640
Speaker 5: you know, the guy that's leading the way and it's

783
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:44,880
Speaker 5: going to get to double digit touches and get the targets,

784
00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:46,680
Speaker 5: I think you're okay. With a guy like you know,

785
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:48,640
Speaker 5: Williams kind of sneaking there from time to time.

786
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:49,640
Speaker 2: You know, it's not ideal.

787
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 5: We saw it, you know today with where as well,

788
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:53,560
Speaker 5: you know, Damian Williams got some burn as well. So

789
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:56,320
Speaker 5: this is going to happen throughout the league with whichever

790
00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:58,040
Speaker 5: running backs you have, if you're if you're not lucky

791
00:31:58,120 --> 00:31:59,760
Speaker 5: enough to have a Todd girl.

792
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:01,720
Speaker 2: So it's just something you got to deal with.

793
00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:03,440
Speaker 5: But I do think that Jones will continue to be

794
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:05,840
Speaker 5: a focal point because he's shown over and over again

795
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:08,240
Speaker 5: that the offense, he's one of the bright spots on

796
00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:10,200
Speaker 5: that offense. Like I think, I think it's that's pretty

797
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:11,959
Speaker 5: clear to see for like the coaching stuff.

798
00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:13,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good point.

799
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:14,920
Speaker 4: I remember I was kind of a couple of weeks

800
00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:18,080
Speaker 4: ago I noticed Giovanni Bernard was itching a little bit

801
00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:20,080
Speaker 4: close in the mix. And then another week went by

802
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:21,800
Speaker 4: and it was like, no, they're still at the same

803
00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:24,320
Speaker 4: seventy five to twenty five percent. I'm looking at a

804
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:26,960
Speaker 4: two game one game sample, you know, way too closely.

805
00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:30,800
Speaker 5: So it's usually when it's like a switch, that's when

806
00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:32,720
Speaker 5: I think you pay more attention, kind of like when

807
00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:36,040
Speaker 5: when a guy goes from like Gus Edwards in Baltimore, right,

808
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:38,240
Speaker 5: Like when it went from like Collins like eighty percent

809
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:39,840
Speaker 5: over the last like four or five weeks coming in

810
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:42,280
Speaker 5: the game in terms of like backfield carries, and then

811
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:44,080
Speaker 5: it's like, all of a sudden, Gus Edwards is like

812
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:46,480
Speaker 5: the guy in backfield carries And it's like in that situation,

813
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:48,720
Speaker 5: it's like because at the end of the day, coaching

814
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:51,239
Speaker 5: staffs are controlling these carries and these snaps. Right, So

815
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:53,760
Speaker 5: when you see such a major switch, that's when I

816
00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:55,600
Speaker 5: think you pay a little more attention and you really

817
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:57,520
Speaker 5: have no choice but to kind of favor that most

818
00:32:57,560 --> 00:32:59,880
Speaker 5: recent information. But when it's just kind of fluctuating, which

819
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:02,600
Speaker 5: I mean, like you know, fifty five percent of the

820
00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:04,680
Speaker 5: work in like you know, seventy.

821
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:05,880
Speaker 2: Five, it's probably just one of those.

822
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:08,000
Speaker 5: More often than not anyway, it would be one of

823
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:10,160
Speaker 5: those like variants, just variance things.

824
00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:13,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, especially when like now we can't come up with

825
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:15,720
Speaker 4: a you know, good solid reason for why this snap

826
00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:19,400
Speaker 4: ratio could be switching. All right, speaking of Baltimore backfield,

827
00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:22,280
Speaker 4: let's talk about this Ravens offense. Lamar Jackson led the

828
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:25,160
Speaker 4: Ravens to another win he hasn't been perfect as a passer.

829
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:28,080
Speaker 4: He's missed some throws, but hey, I mean he's got

830
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:31,080
Speaker 4: this offense winning. He's got their moving the ball. They're

831
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:34,360
Speaker 4: running the ball today. Gus Edberts had another twenty one carries.

832
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:38,080
Speaker 4: Lamar had another seventeen rushes. Kenneth Dixon rose up from

833
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:42,240
Speaker 4: the ir grave with Alex Collins replacing him this weekend.

834
00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:45,960
Speaker 4: Dixon had eight carries time Mountgomery had three, along with

835
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:49,200
Speaker 4: a team high seven targets. So coach Harball after the

836
00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:52,320
Speaker 4: game said that Jackson had done enough to keep the

837
00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:54,520
Speaker 4: starting job, but he was not ready to name him

838
00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:57,640
Speaker 4: the starter. Seems like we're moving forward though, with Lamar

839
00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:00,360
Speaker 4: Jackson that quarterback. If I was a betting man, which

840
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 4: I am, Chris, what are your thoughts here on this

841
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:05,600
Speaker 4: Ravens offense moving forward with Lamar under center? And just

842
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:09,040
Speaker 4: as a refresher, we got the Chiefs, Buccaneers, and Chargers

843
00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:10,680
Speaker 4: to finish off the fantasy season.

844
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:14,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think you know, Lamar Jackson gives I think

845
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:17,520
Speaker 5: he does give him kind of the best chance to win.

846
00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:19,839
Speaker 5: It's it's like you mentioned, it's not ideal. I don't

847
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:21,919
Speaker 5: think the passing is where it needs to be at.

848
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:25,080
Speaker 5: But again, these quarterbacks that can move with their legs

849
00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:28,200
Speaker 5: this day and age, it's it's just a higher upside

850
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:31,080
Speaker 5: bet more often than not in these situations for an

851
00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 5: offense and in fantasy. And so you know, I think

852
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:36,200
Speaker 5: what Lamar Jackson continues to be, you know, kind of

853
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:38,719
Speaker 5: like a low end QB one with you know, high

854
00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:42,160
Speaker 5: end QB one upside as long as he's the starting quarterback.

855
00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:45,280
Speaker 5: I think Kenneth Dixon is another guy who fantasy playoffs,

856
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:47,440
Speaker 5: you know, trying to find a bench stash or somebody

857
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:49,799
Speaker 5: that that may come into value. I think you have

858
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:53,080
Speaker 5: to pick up Kenneth Dixon because these great Ever since

859
00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:55,280
Speaker 5: Lamar became the quarterback. I mean, this team has been running,

860
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:57,279
Speaker 5: you know, forty fifty times a game. I mean you're

861
00:34:57,280 --> 00:34:59,840
Speaker 5: having you know, not just Lamar getting these double digit carriers,

862
00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:01,680
Speaker 5: but you're having usually a running back at twenty and

863
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 5: another the backup getting you know, another you know, close

864
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:05,919
Speaker 5: to a dozen half dozen.

865
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:07,200
Speaker 2: So Dixon is a guy.

866
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:10,000
Speaker 5: If anything happens to Edwards, you know, Dixon could be

867
00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:12,279
Speaker 5: coming into RB one value. So I think you pick

868
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:14,960
Speaker 5: him up. And it's just rough for the for the receivers,

869
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:17,439
Speaker 5: if you if you were kind of relying on John

870
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 5: Brown earlier in the year, or somebody like Michael Crabtree

871
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:22,440
Speaker 5: from week to week, Willie Steed even you know, all

872
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:25,080
Speaker 5: these guys are if if Lamar's a quarterback, it's just

873
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:27,520
Speaker 5: you know, it's essentially a dart throw. Like, there's no

874
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:30,120
Speaker 5: there's no way to be able to kind of predict

875
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:32,480
Speaker 5: any kind of floor because it's it's a much lower,

876
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:34,200
Speaker 5: lower volume passing offense.

877
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:37,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, really, no way to tell what's happening there in

878
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:40,360
Speaker 4: the passing game. Lamar's first start, Willias snead led the

879
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:42,920
Speaker 4: way with eight targets, and he had exactly zero the

880
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:45,719
Speaker 4: following week despite playing the whole game. So gonna be

881
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:47,239
Speaker 4: tough to tell there. But hey, at least we know

882
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 4: Gussa Lamar should be running the.

883
00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:50,200
Speaker 3: Rock, all right.

884
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:52,920
Speaker 4: Natural're gonna take a look at the Monday night football

885
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:56,960
Speaker 4: matchup between the Washington Redskins and the Philadelphia Eagles. Eagles

886
00:35:56,960 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 4: open up as seven point favorites. That's been bumped down

887
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 4: a little bit a little bit too, Eagles minus six.

888
00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:05,760
Speaker 4: The over under has gone up open up at forty

889
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:07,480
Speaker 4: three and a half and we are now at forty

890
00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:10,560
Speaker 4: five points, So Chris will start in the Washington side

891
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:13,960
Speaker 4: of the ball. Biggest news here, Chris Thompson is back.

892
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:17,359
Speaker 4: They're space plus back. Every time he kind of gets

893
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:19,400
Speaker 4: to hold his and touches. The guy's a you know,

894
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:23,040
Speaker 4: very relevant fantasy performer, electric and the open field six

895
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 4: point eight targets per game in five games he's played

896
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:28,400
Speaker 4: the season, and go along with five point two rush attempts. Obviously,

897
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:31,360
Speaker 4: that was what Captain checked down Alex Smith under center,

898
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:33,719
Speaker 4: So we haven't seen him with Colet McCoy. But what

899
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:36,680
Speaker 4: are your thoughts on I guess since since Thompson works

900
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:38,680
Speaker 4: into both phases of the game so much, like what

901
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:41,000
Speaker 4: do you think the Redskins offense is going to flow

902
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:41,560
Speaker 4: through tomorrow?

903
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:44,560
Speaker 5: I think he'll be involved because you know, he hasn't

904
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:45,920
Speaker 5: been in the game and so long, and I think

905
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:48,359
Speaker 5: they they're excited to get him back. It's it's tough

906
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 5: to say exactly how much work he'll get. You know,

907
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:54,160
Speaker 5: we've seen him kind of dominate as you mentioned. You know,

908
00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:56,279
Speaker 5: he was getting twenty percent more than twenty percent of

909
00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:58,680
Speaker 5: the targets in many games with Alex Smith under center.

910
00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:00,880
Speaker 5: Tough to say McCay is going to be quite that

911
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:02,879
Speaker 5: quite that conservative. But at the same time, you know,

912
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:05,919
Speaker 5: Thompson is, you know, when he's healthy, probably their most

913
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:09,239
Speaker 5: best offensive player, most explosive offensive player. So I would

914
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 5: think that I would think that he gets decent usage.

915
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:13,520
Speaker 5: I think that you have to definitely consider him as

916
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:15,880
Speaker 5: like in that captain spot in the showdown slate on

917
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:18,239
Speaker 5: a large field tournament, because there's a there's definitely a

918
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:21,000
Speaker 5: chance that number one Washington could be playing from behind

919
00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:23,719
Speaker 5: and number two that Thompson is just a featured part

920
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:25,920
Speaker 5: of the offense, you know, as he makes his return,

921
00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:28,440
Speaker 5: because you know that that offense has kind of been

922
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:31,520
Speaker 5: pretty sluggish for the whole season almost. I mean, he

923
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:33,239
Speaker 5: was he was the one guy kind of giving them,

924
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:36,200
Speaker 5: you know, always out performing what you like, what you

925
00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:39,359
Speaker 5: would expect from his efficiency in terms of touchdowns or

926
00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 5: just you know, yards per catch, you know, make it

927
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:43,680
Speaker 5: a big play. So I think another guy if he's

928
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:45,880
Speaker 5: just like kind of laying to waste the waiver wire,

929
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:48,319
Speaker 5: I think you definitely want to go and pick him up.

930
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:50,279
Speaker 2: In in season one.

931
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:53,120
Speaker 4: I feel like Chris Thompson has just been Duke Johnson

932
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:56,080
Speaker 4: with a more efficient, like a more consistent workload when

933
00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:59,040
Speaker 4: he's actually been healthy, all right, another space back that

934
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:01,840
Speaker 4: is returning. Eagles are expecting to get back there, and

935
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:05,400
Speaker 4: Sprolls he's still questionable with the hamstring, so you know,

936
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:08,120
Speaker 4: make sure you're looking at our Fantasy Labs NFL twitter

937
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:12,239
Speaker 4: feed for that official status tomorrow night. But Peterson, Doug

938
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:14,520
Speaker 4: Peterson said he'd probably be active, just won't be a

939
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:17,880
Speaker 4: full workload. With that in mind, we got Josh Adams

940
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:20,759
Speaker 4: who kind of has sprung up as a starter. He's

941
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:22,840
Speaker 4: questionable with a hip injury that popped up late, but

942
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:26,040
Speaker 4: he's also expected to play Corey Clement when those smallwood

943
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:28,120
Speaker 4: are still there. What are you making of this all

944
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:30,640
Speaker 4: of a sudden, pretty crowded backfield, Chris.

945
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:32,879
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I think you know Spros is another guy.

946
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:35,640
Speaker 5: I mean, PPR league desperate the other guy to pick

947
00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:38,880
Speaker 5: up because when he he's been historically used pretty at

948
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:40,800
Speaker 5: a pretty high rate when he's been healthy.

949
00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:43,439
Speaker 2: Just hasn't been healthy much the past couple of years.

950
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:45,799
Speaker 5: But he's the guy that could easily, you know, start

951
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:48,680
Speaker 5: commanding somewhere of that that target chair out of the backfield.

952
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:51,120
Speaker 5: You know he's going to be probably, I would guess

953
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:53,440
Speaker 5: returning some kicks for them as well. So I'm kind

954
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:55,279
Speaker 5: of a guy that can score in a few different ways.

955
00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:57,719
Speaker 5: I think in this game, you know, another guy who

956
00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:00,239
Speaker 5: they'll probably manufacture some touches for because he's been out

957
00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:02,680
Speaker 5: for so long. I think that Adams is the guy

958
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:05,719
Speaker 5: they kind of settled on if he's healthy. You know,

959
00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:07,000
Speaker 5: he kind of popped up late in the week on

960
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:08,880
Speaker 5: the injury report to that kind of you have to

961
00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:10,680
Speaker 5: bump him down. I think a little bit just just

962
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 5: in anticipation of him, they them kind of curtailing his work.

963
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:14,560
Speaker 2: A little bit.

964
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:17,600
Speaker 5: But Alan is I think the guy who Adams, excuse me,

965
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:19,319
Speaker 5: is I think the guy who they kind of you know,

966
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:21,799
Speaker 5: gives him what was closest to what jage I kind

967
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:24,200
Speaker 5: of gave them earlier in the year, which is, you know,

968
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:26,239
Speaker 5: kind of he's kind of a little bit bigger guy

969
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:28,719
Speaker 5: just has been their best runner this year. You know,

970
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:31,480
Speaker 5: Corey Clement was that guy kind of making explosive plays

971
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:34,480
Speaker 5: last year and you know, scoring some touchdowns, kind of

972
00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:37,920
Speaker 5: outlier touchdown production given his volume, and that kind of

973
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:40,480
Speaker 5: dried up a little bit this year and they seem

974
00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:42,759
Speaker 5: to have kind of soured on him and Small with

975
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:44,360
Speaker 5: a little bit too small, but I don't think he

976
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:46,480
Speaker 5: even got a I don't think he even got a

977
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:49,759
Speaker 5: touch in the last game. So I think Clement would

978
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:51,719
Speaker 5: be the guy that would would kind of step up

979
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:54,400
Speaker 5: if if Adams is not at full full strength and

980
00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:56,279
Speaker 5: spos will kind of mix and I would think for

981
00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:59,000
Speaker 5: probably may twenty percent of the snaps could catch you know,

982
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:01,040
Speaker 5: three four balls. But I don't think they're going to

983
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:04,960
Speaker 5: start giving him handoffs like they were last time we

984
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:07,480
Speaker 5: saw them. But yeah, I think I think I don't

985
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:10,040
Speaker 5: think that's gonna happen, but I think he'll definitely catch

986
00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:10,800
Speaker 5: a few balls.

987
00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:13,800
Speaker 4: We've only seen sprolls and basically the first quarter of

988
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:15,440
Speaker 4: a Week one this year, and they really went out

989
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:18,000
Speaker 4: of their way to feed him. It seems like that

990
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:20,320
Speaker 4: was because it was against Atlanta. You know, we've talked

991
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:23,200
Speaker 4: about how bad the Falcon not how bad, but just

992
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:26,560
Speaker 4: how the Falcons tend to, you know, really invite offenses

993
00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:28,440
Speaker 4: to kind of feed their running backs in the passing game,

994
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:31,160
Speaker 4: which is what the Eagles were happy to do that week.

995
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:33,560
Speaker 4: All right, Keeping on the Eagles here for a second,

996
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:36,799
Speaker 4: we've now had three games of a target share since

997
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:40,040
Speaker 4: they've acquired Golden Tate in that time. Zach Ertz has

998
00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:44,320
Speaker 4: twenty seven total targets. Golden Tate has twenty alshon, Jeffery sixteen,

999
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:49,160
Speaker 4: Nelson agl or ten. Everyone else's under double digits. Chris,

1000
00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:51,680
Speaker 4: are you accepting Golden Tate here as they're kind of

1001
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:53,880
Speaker 4: the fact the number two receiver behind the Earth or

1002
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:55,600
Speaker 4: do you think Jeffrey is still that guy?

1003
00:40:56,560 --> 00:41:00,919
Speaker 5: Theoretically Jeffery is the guy, but you could see kind

1004
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:02,920
Speaker 5: of this variance, you know, you know, kind of this

1005
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:04,920
Speaker 5: lowered floor with Jeffrey what I mean, we are we

1006
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:08,040
Speaker 5: are seeing it because Tate is just a type of

1007
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:11,680
Speaker 5: receiver that his role kind of naturally commands targets. It's

1008
00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:14,440
Speaker 5: almost like any slot receiver that's just that high volume.

1009
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:15,920
Speaker 5: I mean, you know, he's gonna be the guy when

1010
00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:17,719
Speaker 5: you're in a PREVT defense. You know he's running over

1011
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 5: the middle, you just drop it off to him. And

1012
00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:21,600
Speaker 5: of course Arts is already that guy as well, so

1013
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:24,000
Speaker 5: he could end up I guess being that number two

1014
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:26,680
Speaker 5: receiver from a target share standpoint, because that's just the

1015
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:29,680
Speaker 5: kind of receiver he is. Whereas Jeffrey is running you know,

1016
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:33,160
Speaker 5: more perimeter routes routes deeper down the field, and so

1017
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:36,719
Speaker 5: you know that's just naturally going to invite less targets,

1018
00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:39,759
Speaker 5: especially because I don't think Jeffrey for a while that

1019
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:42,760
Speaker 5: has been quite the same separator that he was maybe

1020
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:44,480
Speaker 5: like earlier in his career when he had he was

1021
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:46,680
Speaker 5: playing with Brandon Marshall. I think now he's just he's

1022
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:48,839
Speaker 5: a little more of a you know, contested catch guy,

1023
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:50,040
Speaker 5: you know, red zone guy.

1024
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:52,600
Speaker 2: You know, still make the tough catches for you.

1025
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:54,839
Speaker 5: But you know, we haven't seen him just kind of

1026
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:57,040
Speaker 5: get open to the point where he's commanding like this

1027
00:41:57,160 --> 00:41:59,279
Speaker 5: huge volume the way you know that's been that's been

1028
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:02,000
Speaker 5: zach Ertz for the Eagles. So I think, yeah, you

1029
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:04,480
Speaker 5: could be kind of frustrated a little bit if you own,

1030
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:06,319
Speaker 5: if you own Jeffrey, But I mean, at the same time,

1031
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:08,640
Speaker 5: he's still a high upside receiver. I think he is,

1032
00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:11,160
Speaker 5: you know, healthier after that that shoulder issue kind of

1033
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:13,600
Speaker 5: hampered him last year. But and Aglar is still kind

1034
00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:15,840
Speaker 5: of mixing in here seventy percent that rate. So I

1035
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:18,439
Speaker 5: don't think you have to be totally scared off Agalar either.

1036
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:20,719
Speaker 5: I think you know, he's still going to be out there.

1037
00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:23,680
Speaker 5: Obviously his target share gives too. But you know that's

1038
00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:25,680
Speaker 5: that's another kind of thing that that hurts Jeffery is that,

1039
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:27,880
Speaker 5: you know, Aglar is another guy that he can be

1040
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:30,520
Speaker 5: a high volume guy in a certain role as well.

1041
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:32,919
Speaker 5: And you know, we haven't seen it, but sometimes they

1042
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:35,000
Speaker 5: keep ag Lar in the slot and they they move

1043
00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:36,400
Speaker 5: Tate around, so it's.

1044
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:37,640
Speaker 2: It all kind of comes back, and then you have

1045
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:38,719
Speaker 2: Sprolls coming back too, So.

1046
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:40,759
Speaker 5: I mean, yeah, it could get it could get kind

1047
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:43,160
Speaker 5: of ugly in this in this target chair in Philadelphia.

1048
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:45,800
Speaker 5: I think the one guy you really can you trust

1049
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:48,360
Speaker 5: is zach Ertz, but it's gonna be kind of a

1050
00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:50,200
Speaker 5: crapshoot here with with these other guys.

1051
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:52,839
Speaker 4: That's a good point about Sprolls potentially taking away some

1052
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:54,000
Speaker 4: of that undernew.

1053
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 3: Stuff from uh Tate and agl or.

1054
00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:58,520
Speaker 4: I just feel like this Eagles offense all year people,

1055
00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:00,719
Speaker 4: and you know why is cars it's not the same.

1056
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 4: Why they're not the same. They don't have that field stretcher.

1057
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:05,319
Speaker 4: I mean it's not like it's not like it was

1058
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:07,319
Speaker 4: the biggest part of their offense. But at least last

1059
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:10,040
Speaker 4: season there was always Tory Smith or Mac Collins. They

1060
00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:12,359
Speaker 4: always at least had a guy that had burners that

1061
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:14,000
Speaker 4: you at least had to worry about.

1062
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:16,200
Speaker 3: And it's now that they're almost going.

1063
00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:19,920
Speaker 4: Like the twenty fifteen through twenty seventeen Cowboys route where

1064
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:22,960
Speaker 4: al Seon Jeffery, you know, might be your de facto

1065
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 4: des Bryant as number one receiver. But I mean those

1066
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:29,200
Speaker 4: aren't easy throws through your quarterback. They're kind of contested catches,

1067
00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:31,800
Speaker 4: and I don't think defenses are as worried about shifting

1068
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:34,480
Speaker 4: coverage to a guy like that versus you know, a

1069
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:37,399
Speaker 4: pure field stretcher like a Mike Wallace, who they had

1070
00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:40,319
Speaker 4: that maybe isn't as good of a receiver, but they

1071
00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:41,920
Speaker 4: at least demanded the attention.

1072
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:43,040
Speaker 3: Am I crazy?

1073
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:45,319
Speaker 5: Oh No, you're exactly right, because you know, again like

1074
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:48,960
Speaker 5: it's kind of just like the a similar situation to

1075
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:52,799
Speaker 5: the to the quarterbacks, the mobile quarterback versus the more

1076
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:53,800
Speaker 5: stationary quarterback.

1077
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:56,280
Speaker 2: It's like al Seon Jeffery, you know, big receiver.

1078
00:43:56,680 --> 00:43:58,960
Speaker 5: Those receivers were really in vogue, I think, you know,

1079
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:01,799
Speaker 5: maybe five ten years ago. Now it's kind of more

1080
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:04,440
Speaker 5: like you want to have a Tyreek Hill, you know,

1081
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:06,520
Speaker 5: you don't want to have like a like an old

1082
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:08,040
Speaker 5: school des Bryant. You want to have like a Tyreek

1083
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:08,600
Speaker 5: kill a guy.

1084
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:10,400
Speaker 3: That we just saw Brandon Cooks get paid.

1085
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:13,520
Speaker 5: Right, Yeah, Like you want those kind of guys because

1086
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:16,960
Speaker 5: you want that stretching, that field stretching ability, and you

1087
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:19,680
Speaker 5: get that by separation and those those the guys that

1088
00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:21,920
Speaker 5: are a little bit smaller can obviously you know, they

1089
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:23,800
Speaker 5: tend to be able to separate better. You know, Jefferies,

1090
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:25,719
Speaker 5: you're not going to beat anybody in a foot race

1091
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:26,560
Speaker 5: at this point in his career.

1092
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:27,520
Speaker 2: So yeah, you're right.

1093
00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:29,840
Speaker 5: I mean, it's that steel stretching element, isn't there. I

1094
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:31,719
Speaker 5: mean even you know, even Torri Smith game a little

1095
00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:32,879
Speaker 5: bit of that too. I Mean, I know he wasn't

1096
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:34,960
Speaker 5: a high volume guy for them, and it's definitely not

1097
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:36,960
Speaker 5: as fast as he was in his heyday, but you know,

1098
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:39,520
Speaker 5: he still was managed to, I believe, played all all

1099
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:42,040
Speaker 5: the games last year and uh and kind of keep

1100
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:43,120
Speaker 5: defenses honest as well.

1101
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:44,520
Speaker 2: So yeah, I'm with you.

1102
00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:46,719
Speaker 5: I'm surprised that that they didn't make a play for

1103
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:49,560
Speaker 5: maybe somebody a little more of a field stretcher or

1104
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:51,240
Speaker 5: maybe even you know, go out and get Amari Cooper

1105
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:52,120
Speaker 5: who ended up.

1106
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:53,920
Speaker 2: I think the Dallas ended up paying you know, like

1107
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:55,040
Speaker 2: a first round for him.

1108
00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:57,600
Speaker 4: So yeah, even even like Josh Gordon, it just seemed

1109
00:44:57,600 --> 00:45:00,520
Speaker 4: weird that they were bringing in to and Law was

1110
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:01,920
Speaker 4: already that guy to be.

1111
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:04,520
Speaker 5: I mean, Josh Gordon has struggled to separate. I think

1112
00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:06,560
Speaker 5: he put for sure, for sure, he struggled to separate.

1113
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:08,360
Speaker 5: I mean, I think that's more to do with you know,

1114
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:10,520
Speaker 5: not playing football for so long than you know, missing

1115
00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:11,920
Speaker 5: a lot of camp, you know, come and getting the

1116
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:13,920
Speaker 5: hamstring injury right when you come back. It's gonna be

1117
00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:17,160
Speaker 5: I mean, we might actually see him get more explosive

1118
00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:19,880
Speaker 5: as the as the season progresses. I don't think that

1119
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:21,640
Speaker 5: would be crazy to think. But yeah, I'm with you.

1120
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:25,040
Speaker 5: I'm surprised that the Eagles didn't get a more downfield threat.

1121
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:26,800
Speaker 5: I mean, it should still be working though, Like Carson,

1122
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:28,799
Speaker 5: Wentz has no excuse for what do you do, like

1123
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:31,200
Speaker 5: one hundred and fifty six yards against the Saints the

1124
00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:31,600
Speaker 5: other week.

1125
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:34,080
Speaker 2: I mean, there's no excuse for for some of these

1126
00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:35,160
Speaker 2: these last few games.

1127
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:38,279
Speaker 5: And Wentz had been putting up big numbers before that,

1128
00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:40,040
Speaker 5: so I don't, you know, it's kind of tough. I

1129
00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:42,759
Speaker 5: mean maybe this whole Tate acquisition did kind of throw

1130
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:43,480
Speaker 5: a wrench at things.

1131
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:44,839
Speaker 2: But still, I mean there.

1132
00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:47,319
Speaker 5: He still has guys that can get open on all

1133
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:49,359
Speaker 5: areas of the field. I mean, you know, you still

1134
00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:51,279
Speaker 5: have a lot of options. You're talking about Tate erth.

1135
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:54,560
Speaker 2: You know, Jeffrey Agalar, you know, not is like the

1136
00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:55,080
Speaker 2: number one.

1137
00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:57,160
Speaker 5: Like, you still have enough enough guys that that Austin

1138
00:45:57,160 --> 00:46:00,120
Speaker 5: should be functional at a pretty high level. So they

1139
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:03,040
Speaker 5: have to step it back up because it's it's kind

1140
00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:03,799
Speaker 5: of inexcusable.

1141
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:06,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, it seemed like Wentz was really starting to hit

1142
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 4: his stride before their bye week, and then we've just

1143
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:10,680
Speaker 4: seen the Eagles will in general fall off a cliff,

1144
00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:12,719
Speaker 4: you know, ever since they kind of lost that tough

1145
00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:15,200
Speaker 4: one at home to Dallas and obviously that Saints massacre

1146
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:17,719
Speaker 4: you just mentioned. So we'll see if they can kind

1147
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:21,279
Speaker 4: of write that ship tomorrow night against the Redskins. All right, now,

1148
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:23,640
Speaker 4: we're going to look ahead to Thursday night football. In

1149
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:27,680
Speaker 4: Week fourteen, we got not a great game Jaguars at

1150
00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:30,400
Speaker 4: the Titans. The line has already moved from Titans minus

1151
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:33,440
Speaker 4: four and a half to Titans minus four. Perhaps people

1152
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:37,560
Speaker 4: were impressed by the Jaguars aforementioned six nothing victory today,

1153
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:40,919
Speaker 4: over Under has stayed firm at thirty eight points. Big

1154
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:43,680
Speaker 4: news in this one is the Jaguars will be welcoming

1155
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:46,920
Speaker 4: back e Leonard Fournette, who was obviously suspended this last week.

1156
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:49,440
Speaker 3: This will be his first game with Cody Kessler.

1157
00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:52,720
Speaker 4: We've seen, you know, with Fournette, without Fournette, with portals,

1158
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:56,000
Speaker 4: you know, it's almost like two different Jaguars offenses. It

1159
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:58,120
Speaker 4: would make sense to me they just contained to feed

1160
00:46:58,200 --> 00:46:59,959
Speaker 4: Fournette basically all the touches you can handle.

1161
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:01,160
Speaker 3: They been doing it all season.

1162
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:03,160
Speaker 4: You know, he's kind of only been playing fifty to

1163
00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:05,960
Speaker 4: fifty five percent snap shares and winding up a twenty

1164
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:09,200
Speaker 4: plus touches anyway, So any reason to believe that Fournette

1165
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:11,800
Speaker 4: won't be the focal point in this offense next Thursday, Oh.

1166
00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:13,279
Speaker 2: No, not at all. I think you know.

1167
00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:16,160
Speaker 5: One of the reasons I like the Coats in this game,

1168
00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:17,760
Speaker 5: I thought they would be able to at least score,

1169
00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:21,640
Speaker 5: you know, thirteen sixteen points to cover against this this

1170
00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:23,319
Speaker 5: Jags teams. I didn't think they would score a lot

1171
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:27,680
Speaker 5: was because for Nette, in the three games prior, he

1172
00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:31,560
Speaker 5: had scored five touchdowns all in the red zone for rushing,

1173
00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:35,239
Speaker 5: one receiving, and that accounted for over a quarter of

1174
00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:38,840
Speaker 5: their offensive touchdowns output this year. You know, he's a

1175
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:40,839
Speaker 5: guy that when they get in the red zone, he's

1176
00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:43,160
Speaker 5: going to be the guy because they don't really have,

1177
00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:47,560
Speaker 5: you know, outside of Moncreef maybe another guy that is

1178
00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:49,399
Speaker 5: even really a red zone threat at all.

1179
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:51,920
Speaker 2: You know, the Westbrook's a smaller type.

1180
00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:55,399
Speaker 5: Cole is another one who's and he hasn't been playing

1181
00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:58,439
Speaker 5: as much. DJ chalks more like a deep threat tight ends,

1182
00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:01,600
Speaker 5: you know, ASJ is long gone, so you're not really

1183
00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:03,719
Speaker 5: you don't really feel confident about any of the tight ends.

1184
00:48:03,719 --> 00:48:05,839
Speaker 5: So I mean, there's not really another guy that you're

1185
00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:07,880
Speaker 5: feeding in that in that go on situation or in

1186
00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:09,480
Speaker 5: that red zone situation period except for Net.

1187
00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:12,000
Speaker 2: Yeah. I expect him to come back and have a

1188
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:12,399
Speaker 2: big game.

1189
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:15,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, just tough to find some other weapons. I was

1190
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:18,120
Speaker 4: on keeling Cole a little bit today because DJ Shark

1191
00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:21,120
Speaker 4: was out and Cole was about fifteen hundreds less than

1192
00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:24,120
Speaker 4: Westbrook and mon Crete for a similar role. When it

1193
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:26,080
Speaker 4: was all said and done, t J Yelden had team

1194
00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:28,719
Speaker 4: high ete targets. Just I didn't going to continue to

1195
00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:31,960
Speaker 4: be a pretty volatile situation with who's getting the targets

1196
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:34,360
Speaker 4: a week per week in this offense, even if Kessler

1197
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:36,080
Speaker 4: kind of figures it out, which you know, I'm not

1198
00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:38,040
Speaker 4: super high on him to begin with. Do you see

1199
00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:40,720
Speaker 4: any value in this Jaguars passing game moving forward?

1200
00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:43,960
Speaker 5: I mean so so in this game, Dede Westbrook actually

1201
00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:46,040
Speaker 5: got fifty nine percent of the air yards. I mean,

1202
00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:48,040
Speaker 5: there weren't a ton of are yards to go around,

1203
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:50,800
Speaker 5: barely over one hundred, but Dede.

1204
00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:53,080
Speaker 2: Westbrook did get a live portion, large portion of them.

1205
00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:54,600
Speaker 2: He's a guy who.

1206
00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:57,799
Speaker 5: I think is highly talented and I think, you know,

1207
00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:00,640
Speaker 5: with maybe a new quarterback and more conference when I

1208
00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:02,719
Speaker 5: think that that area yard share is kind of a

1209
00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:03,200
Speaker 5: good sign.

1210
00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:04,719
Speaker 2: And he told we can really go off of so.

1211
00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:06,799
Speaker 5: I'd say he's the guy that that you want to

1212
00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:09,319
Speaker 5: continue to watch for if he if he's on your

1213
00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:13,080
Speaker 5: wave wire, I pick him up for this game. I think, uh,

1214
00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:15,720
Speaker 5: I think he might be able to do some things inside.

1215
00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:18,160
Speaker 5: You know, Logan Ryan is kind of a bigger, bigger

1216
00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:21,200
Speaker 5: guy inside, so Westbrook might have an advantage there. Mon

1217
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:24,240
Speaker 5: Creeve had been the guy prior to that with Bordos

1218
00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:26,560
Speaker 5: getting getting the air yards and the red zone targets

1219
00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:28,600
Speaker 5: and whatnot. So I think another guy that you know,

1220
00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:30,440
Speaker 5: could could kind of pop back up here and there

1221
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:32,960
Speaker 5: if they if they ever need to score more points.

1222
00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:34,680
Speaker 5: But the problem is that this team is still a

1223
00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:37,279
Speaker 5: pretty good team on defense, and when you have that

1224
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:40,160
Speaker 5: defense and you have Leonard Fournette, if all goes according

1225
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:42,120
Speaker 5: to playing, usually end up with these low scoring games.

1226
00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:43,600
Speaker 2: And I think that's exactly how they want it.

1227
00:49:43,640 --> 00:49:45,839
Speaker 5: So that's really the issue with these pass catches that

1228
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:48,239
Speaker 5: if you're in like a standard league, you know, it's

1229
00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:50,440
Speaker 5: hard to count them for much of anything because Jags

1230
00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:51,960
Speaker 5: are well, they're not scoring.

1231
00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:53,880
Speaker 2: Many touchdowns and when they do, it's it's runner Fournette.

1232
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:56,800
Speaker 5: So I think PPR Yeah, I think I think Westbrook

1233
00:49:56,840 --> 00:49:58,760
Speaker 5: especially could have some some value.

1234
00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:01,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, I've always thought, I mean, you know, if the

1235
00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:05,480
Speaker 4: targets don't always show it, Westbrook is definitely the most

1236
00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:07,680
Speaker 4: talented receiver in Jacksonville.

1237
00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:09,279
Speaker 3: All right, Flipping over the other side of.

1238
00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:13,640
Speaker 4: The ball, we've seen a new look Marcus Mariota ever

1239
00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:16,480
Speaker 4: since the Titans Week eight bye. I was actually pretty

1240
00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:19,600
Speaker 4: in on felt like in the preseason Matt Naggy and

1241
00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:22,280
Speaker 4: the Bears with a popular pick to take that Rams

1242
00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:25,279
Speaker 4: esque jump with a young quarterback, new coach. I thought

1243
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:27,880
Speaker 4: the Titans could maybe do that. Weeks one through seven

1244
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:31,360
Speaker 4: showed no signs of that Mariota. It was only averaging

1245
00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:34,400
Speaker 4: six point nine yards per attempt through just three touchdowns

1246
00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:38,560
Speaker 4: five interceptions. But weeks nine through thirteen we've seen Mariota

1247
00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:41,279
Speaker 4: average nine point two yards per attempt. He's already got

1248
00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:45,000
Speaker 4: eight touchdowns only two picks. You know, Mario has always

1249
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:46,839
Speaker 4: had the rushing floor. I mean, I feel like we've

1250
00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:49,240
Speaker 4: kind of seen him get hot and cold throughout his career.

1251
00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:51,200
Speaker 4: Are you buying this latest hot stretches?

1252
00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:51,479
Speaker 5: Maybe?

1253
00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:55,160
Speaker 4: You know him being a consistently above average fantasy quarterback

1254
00:50:55,239 --> 00:50:55,760
Speaker 4: moving forward?

1255
00:50:56,320 --> 00:50:57,040
Speaker 2: Oh? Probably not?

1256
00:50:57,280 --> 00:51:00,640
Speaker 5: I mean fair enough, fair enough, yeah, I mean no,

1257
00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:03,239
Speaker 5: I think you know, is he is he gonna do

1258
00:51:03,239 --> 00:51:04,160
Speaker 5: this against Jacksonville?

1259
00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:05,279
Speaker 2: I don't think so.

1260
00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:08,440
Speaker 5: You know, then the week after that against the Giants,

1261
00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:12,319
Speaker 5: and then week after that against Washington probably you know, yeah,

1262
00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:14,560
Speaker 5: I think you know, from a forward looking just like

1263
00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:16,880
Speaker 5: season one perspective, he's a guy that you could you

1264
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:18,960
Speaker 5: could rely on for those last two weeks.

1265
00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:20,240
Speaker 2: I wouldn't trust him in this game.

1266
00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:21,799
Speaker 5: I think, you know, he's kind of like you said,

1267
00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:24,120
Speaker 5: he's been that like you know, you come into the season,

1268
00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:26,200
Speaker 5: you're looking for big things from him, and he kind

1269
00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:29,000
Speaker 5: of disappoints. He's inconsistent and he has like stretches where

1270
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:32,440
Speaker 5: he's extremely consistent, extremely you know, high upside. So I

1271
00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:34,879
Speaker 5: think the one thing that he has going for him

1272
00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:37,799
Speaker 5: is that rushing floor. But it's hard to there are

1273
00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:40,399
Speaker 5: another team that when everything's going right for them, they're

1274
00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:41,920
Speaker 5: kind of a team that, like you know, they played

1275
00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:44,920
Speaker 5: decent defense and they're in these world scoring game involved

1276
00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:47,560
Speaker 5: in these world scoring games as well. So I think

1277
00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:49,879
Speaker 5: that you know, in this game against Jacksonville, like he's

1278
00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:53,080
Speaker 5: more of a contrarian. He's a pretty contrarian players like

1279
00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:57,280
Speaker 5: in DFS, Corey Davis, I'm sure you'll have Jaydlen Ramsey's

1280
00:51:57,280 --> 00:52:00,759
Speaker 5: attention in this game and it'll probably I don't know

1281
00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:02,719
Speaker 5: what the what's the over under in this game right now?

1282
00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:04,160
Speaker 3: It is only a thirty eight.

1283
00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:06,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, like that that tells you all you need to

1284
00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:09,439
Speaker 5: know about the outlook of the passing game, passing games

1285
00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:12,000
Speaker 5: in this in this one. But if jackson was playing

1286
00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:13,960
Speaker 5: this kind of defense, now, I mean, where the Titans

1287
00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:14,600
Speaker 5: go for offense.

1288
00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:17,439
Speaker 4: I don't know if again the same Jacksonville every week.

1289
00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:19,480
Speaker 4: I mean, I think if anything, this year, we've seen

1290
00:52:19,560 --> 00:52:21,960
Speaker 4: just how inconsistent they can be from week to week.

1291
00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:25,200
Speaker 4: So to expect to get that same defense back four

1292
00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:28,400
Speaker 4: days later, man, I'm just not buying it. But I

1293
00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:30,920
Speaker 4: will say, I mean, I think Jalen Ramsey is, you know,

1294
00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:32,719
Speaker 4: I mean, he had some struggles earlier on in the year,

1295
00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:34,960
Speaker 4: wasn't grading out like the elite cornerback that.

1296
00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:37,040
Speaker 3: We kind of think he is. I think he has

1297
00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:38,040
Speaker 3: always been that guy.

1298
00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:40,200
Speaker 4: I mean, it's just tough to win one on one

1299
00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:43,200
Speaker 4: versus Antonio Brown And'll Beckham Junior, and he's pretty much

1300
00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:46,000
Speaker 4: won every other battle. I think the big question for

1301
00:52:46,160 --> 00:52:48,600
Speaker 4: Thursday night is, you know, we'll go ahead and just

1302
00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:51,479
Speaker 4: assume Ramsey wins that battle against Davis. Maybe I'm wrong,

1303
00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:55,520
Speaker 4: but uh, after that, we got Taj Sharp Taiwan Taylor

1304
00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:58,239
Speaker 4: as number two and number three. They had six and

1305
00:52:58,320 --> 00:53:01,360
Speaker 4: five targets today, respectively. Is Taiwan the guy here to

1306
00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:03,120
Speaker 4: kind of target for the showdown slights?

1307
00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:06,000
Speaker 5: I say yes, because he's he's more explosive, right, So,

1308
00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:09,279
Speaker 5: you know, Taj Sharp has like every year, you'll have

1309
00:53:09,360 --> 00:53:10,920
Speaker 5: like I think he had like one big game this

1310
00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:13,680
Speaker 5: year and I'm maybe another game with a touchdown and

1311
00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:15,640
Speaker 5: the rest of it's kind of been inconsistent. And Teylan's

1312
00:53:15,640 --> 00:53:18,040
Speaker 5: really been the same way. But Tayawan has a little

1313
00:53:18,080 --> 00:53:20,080
Speaker 5: more speed. I think, you know, I don't really feel

1314
00:53:20,120 --> 00:53:23,440
Speaker 5: good about the Titans offense, passing offense at all against.

1315
00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:24,160
Speaker 2: This Jags d.

1316
00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:26,600
Speaker 5: But yeah, I think Teywan is probably the guy you're

1317
00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:29,120
Speaker 5: looking at. I think maybe you see John or Smith

1318
00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:31,359
Speaker 5: pop up, you know, ferks or to the tight end.

1319
00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:33,000
Speaker 5: He's kind of I think he ended up in the

1320
00:53:33,080 --> 00:53:37,160
Speaker 5: last winning lineup for the Showdown slate that contained the Titans.

1321
00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:39,920
Speaker 5: But he's a guy that he's kind of uses a

1322
00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:41,880
Speaker 5: lot as a pass catcher. He was used a lot

1323
00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:44,760
Speaker 5: at the end of that Houston game against the prevent defense.

1324
00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:46,520
Speaker 5: So if this is one of those games where the

1325
00:53:46,560 --> 00:53:49,080
Speaker 5: Jaguars end up playing well on defense and are able

1326
00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:50,759
Speaker 5: to take out Corey Davis, I think you also want

1327
00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:53,120
Speaker 5: to look at the tight ends because it could be

1328
00:53:53,160 --> 00:53:55,160
Speaker 5: those guys that end up with you know, getting the

1329
00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:58,719
Speaker 5: kind of garbage time dump downs or whatnot. And of course,

1330
00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:01,560
Speaker 5: you know Dean Lewis Derek hen both getting involved, Derek

1331
00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:03,600
Speaker 5: Henry getting a couple of passes thrown his way here

1332
00:54:03,600 --> 00:54:05,600
Speaker 5: and there too. So I think it's you know, you

1333
00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:07,120
Speaker 5: want to look at the running backs and those those

1334
00:54:07,200 --> 00:54:08,880
Speaker 5: kind of tight ends for value, but it's gonna I

1335
00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:11,200
Speaker 5: think this is a game where I mean, if there

1336
00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:12,960
Speaker 5: could be a lot of salary less on the table.

1337
00:54:14,120 --> 00:54:16,400
Speaker 2: I mean, you just played for talk about.

1338
00:54:16,200 --> 00:54:18,680
Speaker 4: Anthony Ferkser right now. We haven't even gotten the Cameron

1339
00:54:18,719 --> 00:54:19,359
Speaker 4: Batson yet.

1340
00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:22,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, exactly, like it's uh, you know Firks.

1341
00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:23,960
Speaker 5: I think folks is kind of that guy that that

1342
00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:26,480
Speaker 5: you maybe you know, the contrarian play that might end

1343
00:54:26,520 --> 00:54:28,440
Speaker 5: up paying off because he's he's got He's flashed a

1344
00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:29,120
Speaker 5: couple of times.

1345
00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:30,799
Speaker 2: But yeah, it's played.

1346
00:54:30,520 --> 00:54:32,600
Speaker 5: The Jags D maybe played the I mean you can't

1347
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:35,120
Speaker 5: in fanly, you can't even play defense. But on draftings, yeah,

1348
00:54:35,239 --> 00:54:38,080
Speaker 5: like tags D. I think you know, maybe Titans D.

1349
00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:41,600
Speaker 5: You know, kickers and Fournette.

1350
00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:45,399
Speaker 4: Oh man, this is what Titans Jaguars gives us.

1351
00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:47,879
Speaker 3: Man. Uh well, I do like the ferks Re call.

1352
00:54:47,960 --> 00:54:49,960
Speaker 4: I mean he had three targets today, the same amount

1353
00:54:49,960 --> 00:54:53,239
Speaker 4: as Janius Smith. And you know, i'd imagine uh, with

1354
00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:56,200
Speaker 4: the less name brand will have the lower ownerships.

1355
00:54:56,280 --> 00:54:58,960
Speaker 3: So we got we have more week to debate.

1356
00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:01,600
Speaker 4: Who's gonna ride up the ranks of the Jaguars and

1357
00:55:01,640 --> 00:55:05,120
Speaker 4: Titans passing games stuff? Oh yeah, all right, now I'm

1358
00:55:05,120 --> 00:55:07,360
Speaker 4: gonna finish up with our weekly bet.

1359
00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:11,200
Speaker 3: Man. I don't have much better news for you, guys.

1360
00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:15,640
Speaker 4: Chris is still dominating this head to head matchup this season.

1361
00:55:16,160 --> 00:55:20,520
Speaker 3: He's up ten wins, three losses, three pushes total. It's

1362
00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:22,520
Speaker 3: been a beat down for most of the year. I

1363
00:55:22,520 --> 00:55:23,480
Speaker 3: don't have any excuses.

1364
00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:26,239
Speaker 4: I'm taking taking the l's on the chest and I'm

1365
00:55:26,280 --> 00:55:28,560
Speaker 4: just hoping to get a win this week. So, Chris,

1366
00:55:28,640 --> 00:55:32,280
Speaker 4: last week I took Titans plus four against the spread.

1367
00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:36,200
Speaker 4: L took Dion Lewis, you had DeAndre Hopkins, you took

1368
00:55:36,200 --> 00:55:37,880
Speaker 4: that w and you got the under.

1369
00:55:38,560 --> 00:55:40,640
Speaker 3: Well done. What's your against spread pick?

1370
00:55:40,920 --> 00:55:46,640
Speaker 4: And by the way, the pick choices are, we've got

1371
00:55:46,640 --> 00:55:50,399
Speaker 4: the Eagles minus six and over unders that forty five?

1372
00:55:50,600 --> 00:55:53,399
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, oh yeah, okay, So I am

1373
00:55:53,480 --> 00:55:56,560
Speaker 5: going with the the Redskins year. You know, I think

1374
00:55:56,600 --> 00:55:59,160
Speaker 5: the line is just a little bit. I just think

1375
00:55:59,160 --> 00:56:01,120
Speaker 5: it should be five. That's that I have in at

1376
00:56:01,160 --> 00:56:03,200
Speaker 5: and so you know, I think that like there's a

1377
00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:06,840
Speaker 5: little bit of over compensation going on for Cold McCoy's.

1378
00:56:07,120 --> 00:56:08,919
Speaker 5: You know, Cold McCoy coming in for for Alex Smith.

1379
00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:11,640
Speaker 5: Cop McCoy career five point six net yards per attempt,

1380
00:56:11,680 --> 00:56:13,879
Speaker 5: Alex Smith. You know the team, you know this year

1381
00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:15,960
Speaker 5: with Alex Smith at the Helm, they weren't they were

1382
00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:18,040
Speaker 5: at like five point eight, five point nine, So it's

1383
00:56:18,200 --> 00:56:21,080
Speaker 5: not a huge drop off really, And with Thompson back,

1384
00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:23,319
Speaker 5: I just think that it should be a given how

1385
00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:25,480
Speaker 5: the Eagles up played, I think it should be a

1386
00:56:25,520 --> 00:56:26,000
Speaker 5: little closer.

1387
00:56:26,000 --> 00:56:27,680
Speaker 2: So I'm go to Washington here.

1388
00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:31,520
Speaker 4: I'm gonna take under forty five points, already moved up

1389
00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:34,160
Speaker 4: one and a half since opening at forty three and

1390
00:56:34,200 --> 00:56:37,239
Speaker 4: a half. I have my doubts with this banged up

1391
00:56:37,320 --> 00:56:40,080
Speaker 4: Redskins offensive line being able to kind of keep this

1392
00:56:40,520 --> 00:56:44,560
Speaker 4: still pretty good Eagles pass rush off of McCoy really.

1393
00:56:44,600 --> 00:56:46,600
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm just not sold on to McCoy much

1394
00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:49,719
Speaker 4: in general, And we talked about talked about reasons why.

1395
00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:51,560
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm not sure at the Eagles offense is

1396
00:56:51,600 --> 00:56:55,200
Speaker 4: necessarily gonna randomly take a step forward. So I'll take

1397
00:56:55,239 --> 00:56:58,920
Speaker 4: a low scoring game and under forty five points. Okay,

1398
00:56:59,040 --> 00:57:02,400
Speaker 4: my highest scoring player pick. I think I'm going to

1399
00:57:03,120 --> 00:57:03,960
Speaker 4: Carson Once.

1400
00:57:05,239 --> 00:57:06,760
Speaker 2: Of hesitation. There of hesitation.

1401
00:57:07,120 --> 00:57:09,759
Speaker 4: Man, I couldn't pick between I couldn't pick between him

1402
00:57:09,800 --> 00:57:12,799
Speaker 4: or Earth. But we see we've seen one run around

1403
00:57:12,800 --> 00:57:15,240
Speaker 4: at least a little bit. So I'm gonna take once. Hopefully,

1404
00:57:15,320 --> 00:57:18,800
Speaker 4: uh he gets more points. And I was predicting he

1405
00:57:18,840 --> 00:57:19,760
Speaker 4: would in my under bet.

1406
00:57:20,720 --> 00:57:22,080
Speaker 2: You know what I'm gonna do. Then I'm gonna don't

1407
00:57:22,120 --> 00:57:25,880
Speaker 2: take it hurt. It's like like I'm hoping for like

1408
00:57:26,320 --> 00:57:28,080
Speaker 2: because I got Washington too, so I'm hoping.

1409
00:57:28,120 --> 00:57:30,000
Speaker 5: You know, Carson Wentz has to throw more than than

1410
00:57:30,040 --> 00:57:32,600
Speaker 5: we expect and you know, get ers at those fourteen

1411
00:57:32,640 --> 00:57:36,400
Speaker 5: catches and uh, you know, hopefully that's enough. Draft Kings,

1412
00:57:36,440 --> 00:57:38,840
Speaker 5: it's a little bit easier for kind of receivers to

1413
00:57:38,960 --> 00:57:41,240
Speaker 5: outscore their quarterback. You know, that's kind of come to

1414
00:57:41,320 --> 00:57:43,440
Speaker 5: light a lot when playing these showdown slates. It's like

1415
00:57:43,480 --> 00:57:45,720
Speaker 5: on Sanduel, you know, when you look at our our

1416
00:57:45,760 --> 00:57:47,439
Speaker 5: models and our projections, a lot of times you see

1417
00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:50,920
Speaker 5: the quarterback will have the highest score, and on DraftKings,

1418
00:57:50,920 --> 00:57:52,440
Speaker 5: a lot of times it's like if you have that

1419
00:57:52,560 --> 00:57:54,160
Speaker 5: number one receiver a lot of times he'll have the

1420
00:57:54,240 --> 00:57:56,840
Speaker 5: highest score because it's just like that full point perception

1421
00:57:56,920 --> 00:57:59,440
Speaker 5: and the three point bonus sometimes, so you know that

1422
00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:01,960
Speaker 5: that's something minus for plenty shotnown slates. But yeah, I

1423
00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:05,560
Speaker 5: think Wentz in theory should should should have a big game.

1424
00:58:05,600 --> 00:58:08,280
Speaker 5: I mean, like I said this, he's got he's got weapons,

1425
00:58:08,280 --> 00:58:10,439
Speaker 5: I mean deep threat or not. Like there's enough, there's

1426
00:58:10,520 --> 00:58:12,360
Speaker 5: enough guys for him to put up big numbers.

1427
00:58:12,920 --> 00:58:15,040
Speaker 4: Yes, I mean especially in this game, like your season's

1428
00:58:15,040 --> 00:58:17,240
Speaker 4: on the line now, Carson, it's it's now or never

1429
00:58:17,280 --> 00:58:17,840
Speaker 4: at this point.

1430
00:58:17,880 --> 00:58:19,560
Speaker 3: I mean, what we're hearing.

1431
00:58:19,360 --> 00:58:22,000
Speaker 4: All the talk about was the Eagle success because of

1432
00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:24,880
Speaker 4: Frank Wright. You know, now he's now he's only the

1433
00:58:24,920 --> 00:58:26,120
Speaker 4: magician for Andrew Luck.

1434
00:58:26,240 --> 00:58:28,080
Speaker 3: Carson Wentz time is now.

1435
00:58:28,200 --> 00:58:28,400
Speaker 2: I Mean.

1436
00:58:28,440 --> 00:58:30,120
Speaker 5: The one thing to say though, is like it's I

1437
00:58:30,160 --> 00:58:32,000
Speaker 5: guess it's how you look at her, right, Because he

1438
00:58:32,080 --> 00:58:35,920
Speaker 5: did lead a crazy fourth quarter comeback against Carolina. I

1439
00:58:35,960 --> 00:58:37,880
Speaker 5: think they were shut out for three quarters and they

1440
00:58:37,920 --> 00:58:38,439
Speaker 5: won that game.

1441
00:58:38,520 --> 00:58:40,840
Speaker 2: Then he leads another crazy comeback against the Giants. I mean,

1442
00:58:41,520 --> 00:58:44,160
Speaker 2: I mean he's still kind of you know doing.

1443
00:58:44,880 --> 00:58:47,040
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, man, I got fixed on that Carolina when

1444
00:58:47,160 --> 00:58:48,560
Speaker 4: that was Cam Newton with to comeback.

1445
00:58:48,800 --> 00:58:51,440
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you're oh, yeah, you're right. Yeah what am I?

1446
00:58:51,760 --> 00:58:53,320
Speaker 2: Oh he lost that game? Oh my god?

1447
00:58:53,360 --> 00:58:55,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, maybe that was the beginning of the end.

1448
00:58:55,880 --> 00:58:57,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, no, wonder yeah, oh my god, I had that

1449
00:58:57,800 --> 00:58:59,960
Speaker 5: completely backward. Yeah yeah, no, yeah, they had to come

1450
00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:02,400
Speaker 5: back against the Giants. But yeah, yeah, Cam Newton had

1451
00:59:02,400 --> 00:59:04,360
Speaker 5: to come back in that game. And then yeah, and

1452
00:59:04,360 --> 00:59:07,280
Speaker 5: then today he didn't have a such a good day either,

1453
00:59:07,320 --> 00:59:09,160
Speaker 5: but yeah, no, yeah, Carson went to have to.

1454
00:59:09,080 --> 00:59:10,880
Speaker 2: Step it up. I thought that he was gonna be

1455
00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:12,440
Speaker 2: a lot better than they are, but yeah, what's who?

1456
00:59:12,440 --> 00:59:12,760
Speaker 3: What happens?

1457
00:59:13,360 --> 00:59:16,560
Speaker 4: All right, everyone, thank you for listening to our breakdown.

1458
00:59:16,600 --> 00:59:18,960
Speaker 4: We hope you all had a great Sunday. I hope

1459
00:59:18,960 --> 00:59:21,360
Speaker 4: you have ant even better time betting. These Monday night

1460
00:59:21,400 --> 00:59:23,920
Speaker 4: football and Thursday night football games are coming up.

1461
00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:25,400
Speaker 3: Chris saying the last words

1462
00:59:25,800 --> 00:59:38,640
Speaker 2: You have to get this money.