WEBVTT - Short: Things that bob in the water

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<v Speaker 1>Thinking Sideways Information. It's a mystery short stories of things

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<v Speaker 1>we simply don't know the answers to. This week with

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<v Speaker 1>a very special episode of Thinking Sideways Short, we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>do short short. Yeah, we're gonna talk about a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of little mysteries that are just kind of kind of

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<v Speaker 1>too short to actually spin out into a whole hour

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<v Speaker 1>long show. So we get a cover cover two really

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<v Speaker 1>interesting topics and then categorized, and we're gonna categorize from

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<v Speaker 1>the two of them as things that go bob in

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<v Speaker 1>the water, things that go bob bob in the water.

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<v Speaker 1>First of all, all, I'm gonna mangle the pronunciations of this.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the tip of tier blocks, and I'm sure that's

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<v Speaker 1>not the way it's supposed to be. It starts with

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<v Speaker 1>a T and a jay. I'm just gonna tipotier blocks. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>have no idea on this. Yeah, these rubber these weird

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<v Speaker 1>rubber oblong rectangular blocks with rounded corners, and they have

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<v Speaker 1>cast into them. They had the the word and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to spell it out T G I P E

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<v Speaker 1>T I R, which turns maybe the T is silent.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe it's Jupiter. Maybe it's Jupiter or maybe it's Jitpiter.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Maybe it's Jupiter. Maybe it's maybe they're

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<v Speaker 1>like the tiles Jupiter. You never know, Like in Welsh,

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<v Speaker 1>for example, you know and Welsh, if you have two

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<v Speaker 1>l's following each other, it changes to the first L

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<v Speaker 1>changes to sound. So like there's a town called Clan

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<v Speaker 1>didn't know, Clon didn't know, which is a coastal town.

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<v Speaker 1>It's starts with two L so it's end. Didn't know.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, languages are weird. I don't even try, don't

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<v Speaker 1>How do you keep all of that? Yeah, I've been,

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<v Speaker 1>I've been the crime didn't know. It's a it's an

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<v Speaker 1>interesting town. So but back to our thing. So, these

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<v Speaker 1>things have been washing up on the shore is of

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<v Speaker 1>northern Europe now for a while now. Lots of people

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<v Speaker 1>have been collecting them, and a lot of people were

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<v Speaker 1>wondering what exactly these things were, where they come from.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is actually not so much of a mystery.

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<v Speaker 1>It turns out that these things are these things are

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<v Speaker 1>actually produced in it was a Pakistan, No, Indonesia, that's right, Yeah, Indonesia.

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<v Speaker 1>They were produced in Indonesia a long time ago though apparently, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a there's a plantation. These things are this this

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<v Speaker 1>place chip. The name that's in there is the side

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<v Speaker 1>of a nineteenth century rubber plantation in Indonesia, which is

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<v Speaker 1>where these things were come from. And apparently they're also

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<v Speaker 1>not rubber. They made it something called gutta percha Gutta perca,

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<v Speaker 1>which is a substance that comes from a tree as

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<v Speaker 1>native to Malaysia, and it's pre day's plastic and it

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<v Speaker 1>was used for all kinds of stuff for for installation,

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<v Speaker 1>waterproof coating and stuff like that, Teddy Bear's noses, bookbindings,

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<v Speaker 1>hot air balloons, and it was a very useful thing.

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<v Speaker 1>So lots of it was produced in Indonesia, loss of

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<v Speaker 1>it was shipped all over the world. And you would

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<v Speaker 1>ship it in bricks, right, yeah, I mean it would

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<v Speaker 1>it packs nice and compactly in a in a nice

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<v Speaker 1>little brick form. Right. And when were they When were

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<v Speaker 1>they being produced, I'm sure well into the twentieth century,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was in the nineteenth century. Well yeah, but

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, but I'm sure they were still producing them

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<v Speaker 1>in the twentieth century because they were still shipping them around. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>because they were using them for in submarines and stuff

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<v Speaker 1>like that, so that would make sense. Yeah, there's there's

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<v Speaker 1>if you go out there and do a little good

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<v Speaker 1>one and you'll find all kinds of pictures of these

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<v Speaker 1>things washed up all over the place. People there are

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<v Speaker 1>people that collect them. But this is not quite a mystery.

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<v Speaker 1>They think that's it's not totally clear, but it's believed

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<v Speaker 1>that this mystery has been solved. Somebody named Tracy Williams

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<v Speaker 1>in Britain was finding these things and she uh did

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit of research on and started got a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit obsessed about the whole thing. And yeah, we've

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<v Speaker 1>all been there. Yeah, and I've never done that. Yeah yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And and she and and got her name out there

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<v Speaker 1>and started reading submission from people who found these slabs

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<v Speaker 1>in England, Shetland, Norway, Sweden, France, the Netherlands, Germany and

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<v Speaker 1>on and on and on Europe. Yeah, mostly Europe, actually

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<v Speaker 1>as far as out there as Spain. Yeah, but never

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<v Speaker 1>not like America. I don't think so. I've never seen

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<v Speaker 1>any you haven't, you know, I haven't seen anything. So

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<v Speaker 1>some people actually theorize that these things had carried and

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<v Speaker 1>been carried in the Titanic, and that perhaps some of

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<v Speaker 1>these things actually were from the Titanic, but it's believed

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<v Speaker 1>actually that no, it wasn't the Titanic. This person Williams

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<v Speaker 1>was informed by somebody that there was a Japanese cargo

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<v Speaker 1>ship called the miya Okay hanging like spelled mariu like

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<v Speaker 1>the cat. This was sunk by the Germans in World

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<v Speaker 1>War One, that was carrying a whole lot of these

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<v Speaker 1>gutter perket balls. Yeah. The British government believes that this

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<v Speaker 1>ship is probably the source of the blocks that are

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<v Speaker 1>washing up now. And I think the reason for that

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<v Speaker 1>is is that somebody has actually been trying to salvage

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<v Speaker 1>that ship and so doing so you disturbed the wreck

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<v Speaker 1>and all this stuff comes floating out because they are seeing. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they're going to open up a hatch and they all

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<v Speaker 1>come rushing out. That would make a lot of sense.

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<v Speaker 1>And why they're showing up like now, show up now, yeah, exactly,

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<v Speaker 1>because it's been down there a long time. Um. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they would have been washing up a lot sooner. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>So they just sat at the bottom of the sea

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<v Speaker 1>for a long time. So they were on the Miyazaki Maru.

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<v Speaker 1>Miyazaki Maru, which was a Japanese carrying Indonesia. That's cool. No,

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<v Speaker 1>it's kind of interesting. I mean, I really hope that

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<v Speaker 1>some of them will float this far. Yeah, i'd like

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<v Speaker 1>one if you have one and you listen to our

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<v Speaker 1>show and you want to send us one as a gift.

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<v Speaker 1>The best thing about one of those ones would make

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<v Speaker 1>an awesome coaster because because no matter how drunk you are,

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<v Speaker 1>you're not going to miss your coaster. That's true. Well

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<v Speaker 1>that was that was That was a listener's suggestion, wasn't that?

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<v Speaker 1>I was suggested by Linda. That's Linda with a y.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks that They're great, great little story. Sorry we couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>stretch it out into a full episode. You guys have

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<v Speaker 1>any other theories that you'd like to expand the alien

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, I mean, as I think we've we

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<v Speaker 1>all know things that float in the ocean, they float

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<v Speaker 1>a long way. Um. What was I know we were

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<v Speaker 1>talking about this before we started is what is the

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<v Speaker 1>name of those toys that I told you about? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>There they were bath toys, rubber duckies. Cargo ship dropped

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of cargo containers overboard, and evidently one of

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<v Speaker 1>the concidentally which it was, it was you know, that's

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<v Speaker 1>just kind of appalling. How many containers go overboard. Imagine

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<v Speaker 1>imagine the damage that would do your your boat if

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<v Speaker 1>you're just cruising along and you hit one of those

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<v Speaker 1>random things floating in the ocean. Well, I think these

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<v Speaker 1>things sank because honously it was ruptured because it led

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<v Speaker 1>out all of its cargo, which was all of these

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<v Speaker 1>bath toys that were rubber duckies and alligators and stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>And for the next fifteen years, people would randomly on

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<v Speaker 1>the beach find him. And it wasn't just in the Atlantic.

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<v Speaker 1>These things were making their way or the Pacific. It

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<v Speaker 1>started the Pacific and they were making their way over

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<v Speaker 1>to the Atlantic and floating everywhere things like that. Like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm amazed at these blocks haven't gone farther, to be honest,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the one thing that I was. I was surprised

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<v Speaker 1>is they're only found on that one coast of the

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<v Speaker 1>European coast. Yeah, well, you never know. I mean, that's

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<v Speaker 1>that's the first place they' hitting. It might be at

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<v Speaker 1>a whole the whole bunches of them that are all

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<v Speaker 1>over the ocean that still haven't washed up on shore.

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<v Speaker 1>They headed off to other parts. You know, they're heading

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<v Speaker 1>off to the east coast of the US god knows where.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, keeping I keep an eye peeld on your beach. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you're friendly, local neighborhood, and then send them to us. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>well you had more than one of these. Yeah, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>this is not going to be that tiny of a

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<v Speaker 1>shorty we got. We got another mystery to talk about.

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<v Speaker 1>This happened. This mystery had happened. In nineteen sixty seven,

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<v Speaker 1>the U. S. Coast Guards found a crate that had

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<v Speaker 1>a wooden crate had seven inflated yellow balloons inside of it,

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<v Speaker 1>floating off the coast of Florida. Well it is I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like it gets even more like an eighties song. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>an eighties song. Yeah, that's the crate was marked in English,

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<v Speaker 1>made in the USSR, and it was addressed to the

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<v Speaker 1>Institute of Mineral Resources of Cuba. So they were sending

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<v Speaker 1>in balloons. Why are they shipping seven balloons to Cuba?

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<v Speaker 1>That's a that's an excellent question. Yeah. There, it was

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<v Speaker 1>not a really huge box, but yeah, it's a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit of a mystery. They also found another one about

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<v Speaker 1>a hundred thirty five miles to the south of where

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<v Speaker 1>they found this one off of Marathon Key where marathon key.

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<v Speaker 1>I assume that's still in Florida. I think I think

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<v Speaker 1>there's a marathon Florida. So it's just one of the keys,

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<v Speaker 1>one of the Florida keys. The Bahamas also have keys

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<v Speaker 1>all of that that island clump all around there. They

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<v Speaker 1>if it's not if it's of a certain site, they

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<v Speaker 1>just call it or whatever key's It doesn't have to

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<v Speaker 1>be associated with a specific land mask or anything like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Lots of cruise ships own keys ahead and throw that

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<v Speaker 1>out there. I want to own my own key. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna call it skeleton key or master key or something

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<v Speaker 1>like that. Yeah, Okay, back to our mystery. The crates,

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<v Speaker 1>according to the Coastguard spokesman, had barnacles on them, and

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<v Speaker 1>so that indicated to them to their scientific analysis that

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<v Speaker 1>they've been in the water for a couple of months.

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<v Speaker 1>There's not too many theories about this, like, for example,

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<v Speaker 1>were they being shipped from Russia, these balloons from Russia

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<v Speaker 1>to Cuba, or were these crates that perhaps the Russians

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<v Speaker 1>had sent to an English speaking country. They just shipped

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<v Speaker 1>whatever exports to send some place like England, and then

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<v Speaker 1>somebody in England had wanted to ship something to Cuba,

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<v Speaker 1>and so they grabbed these crates and ship their stuff

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<v Speaker 1>to Cuba. In the crates right, could be at the

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<v Speaker 1>Russians shipping balloons to Cuba, could be at somebody in

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<v Speaker 1>some intermediary shipping. And that's about as much as we

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<v Speaker 1>know there is. The balloons were went like the size

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<v Speaker 1>of a cantalope or a soccer ball or something like that.

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<v Speaker 1>They weren't very big, but they were fully inflated, and

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<v Speaker 1>they weren't they weren't a balloon like you would get

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<v Speaker 1>at the party store. They were more of a heavy

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<v Speaker 1>rubber yellow balloon, more of like what lifecraft would be

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<v Speaker 1>made out of. Yeah, exactly, heavy duty kind of stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Once there that somebody put out is that they were

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<v Speaker 1>used as packing materials and they couldn't find these little

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<v Speaker 1>styrofoam peanuts and seven that they have styropham puts. That's

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<v Speaker 1>that's one there that somebody has put out is that

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<v Speaker 1>they were used as packing material And so you'd pop

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<v Speaker 1>out a balloon, you'd pull out the optic that you're receiving,

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<v Speaker 1>and then close the box up and then and then

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<v Speaker 1>set it back on the dock, and sooner or later

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<v Speaker 1>somebody throws it into the drink. Yeah. I don't really

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<v Speaker 1>buy that. Mostly, I just don't understand why something from

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<v Speaker 1>USSR to Cuba would be written in English. But okay, sure, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>well that's why I was That's why I was saying,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, that doesn't make any sense. But but again,

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<v Speaker 1>if it was shipped from somewhere other than the uss ARE,

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<v Speaker 1>if it was shipped to an English speaking country, then

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<v Speaker 1>it would make sense to having so haven't made in

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<v Speaker 1>the U s s A. You know what else would

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<v Speaker 1>make sense is drunk teenagers pulling a prank. It could

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<v Speaker 1>be that too. I mean, that's about the time, right,

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<v Speaker 1>but like that would be fund something that would be hilarious. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>just dump them overboard. Yeah, I feel like the USSR

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<v Speaker 1>is sending something to I guess what it is, hot air. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that if they actually made it all the

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<v Speaker 1>way to Cuba and then just got thrown off the pier,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think they would have made it to flow Orda.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I would have been stuck somewhere in that region.

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<v Speaker 1>They wouldn't have gone that far that it would be

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<v Speaker 1>pretty tough for them to drift that far north well,

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<v Speaker 1>and and they would because of the Gulf Stream, they

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<v Speaker 1>would they would drift east, and so they wouldn't they

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't head north. I mean, so I don't. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think they went straight from Cuba. So that's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>a poser. But it could be that it could be

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<v Speaker 1>that somehow they wound up in the hands of somebody

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<v Speaker 1>who have a boat or maybe they maybe they were

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<v Speaker 1>just handy look containers and said maybe a Cuban freighter

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<v Speaker 1>or some sort of Cuban government ship was using them

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<v Speaker 1>and some of them got washed overboard. And I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>but I have I have another another idea though, as

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<v Speaker 1>to wear what they were and why they were balloons

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<v Speaker 1>in them. So are you ready from the theory? Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>in the water between Cuba and Florida, what do you find?

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of water, a lot of that, but you

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<v Speaker 1>find something else. You find Cuban refugees trying to escape

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<v Speaker 1>the communist tellhold they're living in. And a lot of

0:12:55.559 --> 0:12:58.240
<v Speaker 1>these people have actually have actually are so desperate that

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<v Speaker 1>they'll actually lashed together a little crappy makeshift raft and

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<v Speaker 1>and and take off and try to cross the straight

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<v Speaker 1>over to Florida and to get to get away from Cuba,

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<v Speaker 1>and there's lots of documented instances of people doing it

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<v Speaker 1>and making it to some people not making it. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>that it would have been a makeshift craft. Yeah. So

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<v Speaker 1>so you get all these crates and if, if at

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<v Speaker 1>all possible you want to just on the on the

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<v Speaker 1>possibility of leaks and stuff like that, get a little

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<v Speaker 1>lecture buoyancy and cramp some balloons in there. So that way,

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<v Speaker 1>if your little box, if you want to create springs

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<v Speaker 1>a leak, well the balloons will keep you from second

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<v Speaker 1>fully inflated and full of air. Yeah yeah, actually, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that should be considered a possibility. Unfortunately, it's

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<v Speaker 1>a sad possibility because it probably means those guys and

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<v Speaker 1>probably means the raft broke up and they all drowned.

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<v Speaker 1>So that kind of sucks. Yeah. Well, well that's it.

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<v Speaker 1>You guys have any other theories? Yeah? Yeah, Now, actually,

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<v Speaker 1>what I think happened, let me I take that back.

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<v Speaker 1>I think what happened is they made it to Florida.

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<v Speaker 1>They jumped off their raft and and and rent up

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<v Speaker 1>and kiss the sand and their raft just floating away

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<v Speaker 1>to mention broke up. So happy that's that is possible, really,

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<v Speaker 1>so yeah, uh So anybody out there, if you're a

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<v Speaker 1>Cuban refugee living in the US, and that's how you

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