1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:00,640 Speaker 1: In motion. 2 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:04,200 Speaker 2: Is soon got to throw, wants to throat to shop. 3 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 3: Down, dive down the thirty one yard line. 4 00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:14,120 Speaker 2: Oh that is beautiful. 5 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 4: It is finally here week one of the NFL season. 6 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:33,120 Speaker 4: It has been long off season. It's been long OTAs 7 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:35,760 Speaker 4: it was a long training camp. But we are finally 8 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:39,159 Speaker 4: here Week one and the Detroit Lions kick off the 9 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 4: twenty twenty three NFL season with the first game of 10 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 4: the year at Kansas City, defending Super Bowl champions. 11 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 1: And you know what a terrific opportunity. 12 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 4: For Dan Campbell, for Brad Holmes and the front office 13 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:55,640 Speaker 4: and coaching staff to figure out what kind of team 14 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 4: they have. I think everybody around the country thinks that 15 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 4: this roster is ready to win now. This roster is 16 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 4: ready to compete for an NFC North championship, to be 17 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 4: a playoff contender in the NFC, and I think Campbell 18 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:11,760 Speaker 4: and Holmes get an opportunity to see that week one. 19 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 4: I mean, this is the defending Super Bowl champion, the 20 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:18,200 Speaker 4: reigning MVP is on the other side of the field. 21 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 4: It's the number one offense in the league. So your 22 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 4: revamped defense is going to get challenged week one, and 23 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 4: so for Dan Campbell, he's going to see what his 24 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:27,959 Speaker 4: football team is all about week one, and what a 25 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 4: great opportunity for that. A couple news and notes leading up. Obviously, 26 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 4: one of the big news is Chris Jones, They're All Pro, 27 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:41,200 Speaker 4: all everything defensive tackle in a contract dispute in Kansas City, 28 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:45,319 Speaker 4: has not reported to training camp, and the latest of 29 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 4: this taping, it doesn't seem like he's going to be available. 30 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:49,640 Speaker 1: He hasn't reported yet. 31 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 4: Obviously, we have to wait ninety minutes before kickoff and 32 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 4: we'll know for sure. But what a huge loss for 33 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:57,720 Speaker 4: Kansas City, who's already trying to replace a lot of 34 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 4: different pieces along that defensive line. To not have their 35 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 4: best player on defense obviously would be a huge blow. 36 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 4: Lion center Frank Ragnow certainly isn't going to shed a 37 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 4: tear when he lines up and doesn't see Chris Jones there. 38 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:16,360 Speaker 4: But look, the lines offensive line is a strength already, 39 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:19,400 Speaker 4: and so I think that's a huge loss, and obviously 40 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:22,360 Speaker 4: you know something to monitor early in that game and 41 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 4: throughout that game to see, you know, what Kansas City 42 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 4: does without their best player on defense. I think health 43 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 4: is also kind of a big story for Detroit. We've 44 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 4: seen in years past, the missing some key components. Heading 45 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 4: into Week one, we're gonna see the five best offensive 46 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:43,360 Speaker 4: linemen on this football team playing a game together for 47 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 4: the first time in two years. I think that's exciting. 48 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:48,840 Speaker 4: And just when you look at the injury report throughout 49 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 4: the week in Detroit, you know, only Emmanuel Moseley was 50 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 4: limited participant in practice. We'll see if he's inactive or not. 51 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:00,840 Speaker 4: It might be a little bit too early. I'm probably 52 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:02,960 Speaker 4: thinking more week two for him, but you know, we'll 53 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 4: see ninety minutes before. But health wise, Detroit is going 54 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 4: into the season with all their guys, which they haven't 55 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:12,920 Speaker 4: been able to say the last two years, so that's 56 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 4: huge for them. Obviously, going to Arrowhead, I'm a little 57 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 4: excited personally because it's the last stadium I get to 58 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:23,120 Speaker 4: knock off my list of being you know, then in 59 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 4: all thirty two the last time Lines were scheduled to 60 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 4: play at Arrowhead, they played in London, if you remember, 61 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:32,840 Speaker 4: And so I'm excited for that. And look, Dan Campbell said, look, 62 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 4: embrace this opportunity. It's one of the most iconic stadiums 63 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 4: in the league. It's probably the lowest. I'm sure it's 64 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 4: a planted Seattle in that regard, and it's just gonna 65 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 4: be a fun place to play. So instead of being 66 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 4: nervous anxious, Dan Campbell said, look, young guys, guys who 67 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 4: haven't played there, embraced this. It's fun. It's week one, 68 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 4: it's the NFL. Let's go to Arrowhead and have a 69 00:03:55,960 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 4: good time. And obviously Isaiah Bug was in the news 70 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 4: a little bit here this week as well. He's been 71 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 4: told he's not going to be active. 72 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 1: On Thursday night. 73 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 4: You know, here's a guy who obviously contributed a lot, 74 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 4: started thirteen games last year, played over seven hundred snaps. 75 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:16,600 Speaker 4: But I think what we should look at with that 76 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:20,360 Speaker 4: piece of news is and be a positive is what 77 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:23,040 Speaker 4: Levi owns a Rique has been able to do coming 78 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 4: back from the back injury that cost him all of 79 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 4: last season. I think he's been terrific in camp. He's 80 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:30,120 Speaker 4: been a playmaker. And now you get a guy who 81 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 4: they thought was going to be a real difference maker 82 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:34,480 Speaker 4: for them when they drafted him in the second round 83 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 4: in twenty twenty one. Now he's kind of shown to 84 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 4: be that, and so you know, I think that's a 85 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:44,159 Speaker 4: great sign for Lion's Benito Jones has been playing really 86 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 4: well too. 87 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 1: And look, Bug said all the right. 88 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 4: Things in terms of, you know, keeping his head down, 89 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 4: accepting whatever role he's going to have. And but I 90 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:55,800 Speaker 4: think you've got to look at, you know, some of 91 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 4: the young guys with Levi owns Arique and some of 92 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 4: the guys stepping up that that's obvi great news for Lions. 93 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 4: So that's the news and notes. I've got a busy, 94 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:07,279 Speaker 4: busy podcast for you today. I'm on Rossaint Brown is 95 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 4: going to stop by and chat with me. I got 96 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 4: Jesse Neule from the Kansas City Star. He's going to 97 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:15,360 Speaker 4: break down everything about this matchup from a Kansas City perspective. 98 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 4: And Dan Miller, the Voice of the Lions, is going 99 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 4: to stop by for the key matchup segment. We have 100 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 4: fun in that one. So it's a very busy week 101 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 4: one twenty minute Huddle podcast presented by Microsoft. Stick around, 102 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 4: and I've got a fun next half hour, forty five 103 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:41,679 Speaker 4: minutes for you. Welcome back to the twenty minut Huddle 104 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 4: podcast presented by Microsoft, and I'm very excited to welcome 105 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:47,719 Speaker 4: in Jesse Neule, the Kansas City chiefs beat writer for 106 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 4: the Kansas City Star. Jesse, Welcome, to Week one of 107 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:52,160 Speaker 4: the NFL season. It's finally here. 108 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 5: We finally made it through training camp everything else. So yeah, 109 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 5: time to get that ball kicked off. 110 00:05:57,320 --> 00:05:59,600 Speaker 1: All right, Happy Week one to you. But let's start 111 00:05:59,600 --> 00:05:59,920 Speaker 1: with Abby. 112 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 4: See, the big news in Kansas City is the Chris 113 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 4: Jones situation. You know, obviously hasn't reported to training camp, 114 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 4: wants a new deal in Kansas City. 115 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 1: Do you have the latest? 116 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 4: I mean, can Lions fans expect him? We're running out 117 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:17,560 Speaker 4: of practice days here? Is there a deadline for this 118 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 4: or kind of just what's the situation with Chris Jones 119 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:19,920 Speaker 4: right now? 120 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:22,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, I would say it's good news for Lions fans because, 121 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:25,559 Speaker 5: barring something miraculous, he is not going to be playing 122 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 5: in this game coming up against Kansas City because he 123 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:31,479 Speaker 5: hasn't reported. He didn't come to mandatory mini camp, and 124 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 5: then he held out of all of training camp on 125 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 5: trying to get a new long term deal done. And 126 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:38,280 Speaker 5: he's still not reported to practice. And so we talked 127 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 5: to both Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes earlier in the 128 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:43,599 Speaker 5: week and they're basically saying they got to deal with 129 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 5: who's in the building. And so it looks like Chris 130 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:47,840 Speaker 5: Jones is going to at least be out for Game one. 131 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 5: We'll see if he reports here later in the week 132 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 5: or next week, but that situation is like obviously good 133 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 5: news for the Detroit Lions in this particular game, just 134 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 5: because Chris Jones, you know, he had a career year 135 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 5: last year and also had a tendency to come through 136 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:03,680 Speaker 5: in the biggest moments for the Chiefs when they really 137 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:05,599 Speaker 5: needed a huge sack or a huge stop on a 138 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:08,279 Speaker 5: run play. So that will be a big hole missing 139 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:09,840 Speaker 5: in the middle of their defensive line. And to be 140 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 5: completely honest with you, the Chiefs defensive line even before 141 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:13,760 Speaker 5: that is probably not as sound as it was a 142 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 5: year ago, so that'll be something to watch. We know 143 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 5: the lines up a pretty good O line and can 144 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 5: put some people around in the run game too, so 145 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 5: that is gonna be one weakness versus strang matchup to 146 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 5: watch in this opener. 147 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, Jesse, I saw an interesting stat I think it 148 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 4: was ESPN that had it out that over the last 149 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 4: five years with Chris Jones in the lineup, the Kansas 150 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 4: City Chiefs are number one in the NFL in quarterback 151 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 4: pressure percentage. When Chris Jones isn't on the field that 152 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 4: drops all the way down to twenty eighth in the NFL. 153 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 1: So, I mean that's a really big hole there. 154 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 4: Who are maybe some names that Kansas City is looking 155 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 4: to step up into that spot and get some good 156 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 4: playoff and maybe fill that void a little bit. You 157 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 4: can't fill it completely, but maybe a little bit. 158 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 1: Yeah. 159 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 5: So it's interesting when any reads asked about that very 160 00:07:57,160 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 5: question like who fills in, and he'll mention defensive ends, 161 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 5: which it's sort of like, well, that's not position that 162 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:05,120 Speaker 5: Chris plays. But I mean, they do hope for better 163 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:07,240 Speaker 5: production this year. Like George Carloftis came on towards the 164 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 5: end of last year. He was a first round rookie. 165 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 5: Year ago. They just drafted Felix and you dickue Uzama 166 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:14,640 Speaker 5: out of Kansas State in the first round this past year. 167 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 5: He kind of struggled early in training camp, but kind 168 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 5: of will mostly be seen probably in a third down 169 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 5: rushing role for them. But I think mostly what they're 170 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 5: going to rely on is the brains of Steeves bag Nolo. 171 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 5: I think you're gonna see some creative stuff from the Chiefs. 172 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:29,760 Speaker 5: They have a lot of defensive tackles that they brought in, 173 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 5: including Neil Farrell, who they just traded for from the 174 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:34,200 Speaker 5: Las Vegas Raiders. I asking of the Ed yesterday at 175 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:35,679 Speaker 5: the press conversis he said there's a chance he'll play 176 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 5: in this game, even though they just traded for him 177 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 5: last week. But they've got a lot of big bodies there, 178 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 5: and we've seen Steves bag Nool in the past do 179 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 5: kind of creative things where maybe it just stuffed the 180 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 5: middle and try to stop the run game and then 181 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 5: get really creative like he has with NASCAR pressure packages 182 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:52,600 Speaker 5: with a bunch of defensive lineman rushing the past around 183 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:55,600 Speaker 5: third downs, maybe you go out there. They a guy 184 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 5: like Leo Chanelle who was a second round I'm sorry, 185 00:08:58,200 --> 00:08:59,839 Speaker 5: a third round pick in the draft last year for 186 00:08:59,880 --> 00:09:03,200 Speaker 5: that he's kind of a run stopping linebacker. Maybe they 187 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:05,439 Speaker 5: do some three three five, some creative things in there. 188 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:08,800 Speaker 5: So I really think in the interim without Chris Jones, 189 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 5: what they're going to try to do is get creative 190 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:12,080 Speaker 5: and play. What they've talked about is play to the 191 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:15,360 Speaker 5: strengths of their specific players, and so right now I 192 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:16,839 Speaker 5: would say that they have a lot of beef on 193 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:19,360 Speaker 5: the interior and they've got a run stopping linebacker. They 194 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 5: maybe didn't utilize as much last year as they could 195 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 5: this year. So look for them to get creative and 196 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 5: maybe try to stop them on early downs the lines 197 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:28,119 Speaker 5: that is, and then get really creative with pressure packages 198 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:31,840 Speaker 5: on third downs. And if that happens, sometimes Steve Sagenhal 199 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 5: can kind of dig deep into his back and get 200 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 5: some creative pressures, get some creative things going when the 201 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:38,560 Speaker 5: personnel isn't there to make that work on its own. 202 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:42,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, that'll be interesting how Ben Johnson tries. 203 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:45,600 Speaker 4: To maybe you know, compete with that, or how he 204 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:48,199 Speaker 4: counters that, maybe not knowing what exactly he's going to 205 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:51,440 Speaker 4: see from Kansas City. But Jesse, the good news is 206 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:54,679 Speaker 4: Cadarius Tony. It sounds like he's back at practice. I 207 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 4: heard Andy Reid's press conference over the weekend said he's 208 00:09:57,960 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 4: expected to play Thursday's been dealing with a knee injury. 209 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 1: How big of a boost is that for the offense. 210 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:05,080 Speaker 4: It seems like, you know, him and Patrick Mahomes kind 211 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 4: of built a pretty good rapport there at the end 212 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 4: of the season when they went on that run. 213 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:11,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, Kadarius is a fascinating player. I mean, he was 214 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 5: coming off of an injury this summer and he gets 215 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 5: to training camp and literally before training camp they're working 216 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 5: on punt return before the bell has rung for them 217 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:23,520 Speaker 5: to start practice, and he hurts himself. And so this 218 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 5: is kind of been them. But Canarius told He's like, 219 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:28,319 Speaker 5: he literally hurt himself before the first training camp practice. 220 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:30,560 Speaker 5: He was coming off of injury. But we know this 221 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:32,960 Speaker 5: about the Chiefs as well. When he's in there and 222 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:35,200 Speaker 5: when he gets his plays, they target him a lot. 223 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 5: He has one of the highest target shaars of any 224 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:39,200 Speaker 5: player in the NFL. He did last year when he 225 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:40,760 Speaker 5: was in there with the Chiefs. It's just they would 226 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 5: sort of have him as a package player. They'd have 227 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:44,320 Speaker 5: him come in and do certain things. Now they have 228 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:46,400 Speaker 5: higher expectations for him. He went up and high pointed 229 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:48,440 Speaker 5: a ball last year, and I think all those around 230 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:49,640 Speaker 5: the press box kind of look at you are like 231 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:51,599 Speaker 5: kind of like Tyreek Hill in the early days, you 232 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 5: know where receiver where. It's like you didn't think he 233 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:56,160 Speaker 5: had these sorts of skills. You knew he had the 234 00:10:56,200 --> 00:10:58,520 Speaker 5: speed and the burst in short spaces, but you might 235 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 5: not known he had this. So they high expectations for him. 236 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:02,320 Speaker 5: But it is a matter of him staying on the 237 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 5: field and staying healthy, So it is a big boost 238 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:06,560 Speaker 5: for them. I would imagine what any Reid is going 239 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:08,559 Speaker 5: to do, is he's going to come up with ten 240 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 5: to fifteen to twenty snaps for him, run him in motion, 241 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:12,840 Speaker 5: do all sorts of different things with him. But when 242 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 5: he's on the field, the lines do need to pay 243 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 5: attention because the Chiefs have had a habit of when 244 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 5: Cadarius is out there, they get him involved, and so 245 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 5: if they have that sort of thing ready for him, 246 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:23,920 Speaker 5: I would anticipate they use him. But again, is he 247 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 5: going to be part of sixty to seventy eighty plays 248 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 5: out there for the Chiefs? Probably not, And that's not 249 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:29,480 Speaker 5: how they used him a year ago, especially coming off 250 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:31,680 Speaker 5: this injury, especially in returning to practice just this. 251 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:35,959 Speaker 4: Week, defending Super Bowl champs MVP and Patrick mahomes the 252 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:39,400 Speaker 4: number one offense. But where is this football team maybe 253 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 4: even better than they were last year coming off a 254 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 4: Super Bowl championship. 255 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:48,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's a good question. So I would say a 256 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:51,439 Speaker 5: couple of things when talking about that. In particular, I 257 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:54,600 Speaker 5: would say one is last year they really rely on 258 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 5: a lot of rookies and a lot of this has 259 00:11:56,520 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 5: to happen with Patrick Mahomes because you're paying him a 260 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 5: lot of money. And aw, the NFL Top one hundred 261 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:03,160 Speaker 5: lists came out. The Chiefs have three top players in 262 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:05,520 Speaker 5: the top ten in there, and we know this as amazing. 263 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 5: Gallary Cap is meant to like not have that happen. 264 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:11,040 Speaker 5: So when you're paying Patrick Mahomes and you're paying Travis Kelsey, 265 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:12,480 Speaker 5: and even if you're not paying them market rates, you're 266 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:14,319 Speaker 5: paying them a lot of money. And then potentially Chris 267 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 5: Jones at some point if he decides, you know, to 268 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 5: show up on the last year of his current deal. 269 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 5: I mean, that's not what's supposed happen in the NFL. 270 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:21,680 Speaker 5: So you have to rely on young players. And so 271 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:24,240 Speaker 5: last year they started a lot of rookies on defense 272 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 5: in the Super Bowl. You know, got Trent McDuffie, got 273 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:29,680 Speaker 5: Jalen Watson a cornerback. You've got Joshua Williams who place 274 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 5: an aunt at cornerback. Brian Cook is stepping in. He 275 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:34,000 Speaker 5: was their third safety year ago, now second safety with 276 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 5: Loan Thornhill moving on to the Browns. I talked about 277 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:39,120 Speaker 5: George Carl Loftus was in there, so I mean they 278 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:41,080 Speaker 5: had a ton of rookies in there. So I would 279 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:42,920 Speaker 5: say one thing is kind of a natural progression of 280 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:45,680 Speaker 5: these guys, where last year they played pretty basic defenses, 281 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:47,839 Speaker 5: try not to screw things up. Now, as I talked 282 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 5: about earlier, you know you can maybe a little bit 283 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:53,600 Speaker 5: more exotic with the coverages. Those holes windows in the 284 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 5: red zone. Offense and training camp were a little bit 285 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:57,520 Speaker 5: smaller for Patrick Mahomes this year because guys were starting 286 00:12:57,520 --> 00:12:59,839 Speaker 5: to figure out what they do, communicating better. And watch 287 00:12:59,880 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 5: the Brian Cook on the back and he's kind of 288 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 5: the quarterback of their defense, just in his second year 289 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 5: with the Chiefs, the former second round pick. I would 290 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 5: say the other thing to look at for the Chiefs, 291 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:10,160 Speaker 5: and this is sort of wacky to say with what 292 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:12,839 Speaker 5: happened in this offseason, but they are really really high 293 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:15,360 Speaker 5: on the tackles they got this offseason and the interior 294 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:18,320 Speaker 5: of their line. We know Joe Tooney, Creed Humphrey tray 295 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:21,120 Speaker 5: Smith is really solid, but now they signed Jowan Taylor 296 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:24,160 Speaker 5: for twenty million dollars over three years, twenty million dollars 297 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:25,960 Speaker 5: a year or three years to play right tackle. He 298 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:28,679 Speaker 5: was really good pass blocker for the Jaguars, and then 299 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:31,600 Speaker 5: Donovan Smith who on the left side. He was with 300 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:34,080 Speaker 5: the Bucks forever and then had an injury riddle season 301 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:36,160 Speaker 5: last year where he played through his injuries. But even 302 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 5: great so far, great upper body strength and kind of 303 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:40,800 Speaker 5: throw guys around. So this is sort of knock on 304 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:43,360 Speaker 5: wood around here for the Chiefs people that are talking, 305 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:46,080 Speaker 5: but even losing Orlando Brown and even losing Andrew Wiley 306 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 5: to free agency, they feel like they might have the 307 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:50,520 Speaker 5: best offensive line in front of Patrick Mahomes that they've 308 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:52,840 Speaker 5: had in the Andy Reid era, especially when it comes 309 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 5: to pass blocking. So you'll see Jowan Taylor, I'm sure 310 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:56,840 Speaker 5: Joe Troy. Lions fans will be ready for this. But 311 00:13:56,880 --> 00:13:58,960 Speaker 5: on the right side, he gets as good of a 312 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 5: jump off the snap any right tackles i've seen. It'll 313 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:04,559 Speaker 5: look like a fall start. Maybe it's a fall start, but. 314 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:05,320 Speaker 1: Just be ready for that. 315 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:06,680 Speaker 5: You'll see him mup off that line and when he 316 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 5: gets that jump back, it's really hard to get around. 317 00:14:08,920 --> 00:14:10,640 Speaker 1: Detroit fans will be complaining about it. 318 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:14,720 Speaker 4: Sold Charles Harrison, Aiden Hutchinson, I'm sure, and that's Jesse. 319 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:17,120 Speaker 4: That's scary to think that this is the best offensive 320 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 4: line that Casey might have with how explosive and how 321 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:23,840 Speaker 4: good that offense is, that's certainly scary. I'm curious not 322 00:14:23,880 --> 00:14:26,720 Speaker 4: a familiar opponent in Detroit. Obviously we got an NFC 323 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:32,080 Speaker 4: versus AFC. What if Chiefs players, Chiefs coaches been saying about, 324 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:35,880 Speaker 4: you know, Dan Campbell, the Detroit Lions, this matchup what 325 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 4: they've been seeing on film. 326 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 6: Yeah. 327 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:39,960 Speaker 5: Andy Reid spoke to it a couple days ago and 328 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:42,120 Speaker 5: was just wowed by what happened at the last season 329 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:44,640 Speaker 5: and obviously with how Detroit ended its season and basically 330 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 5: said they were a different team down the stretch and 331 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:48,120 Speaker 5: what you saw early on when he was sort of 332 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 5: asked about Detroit in general. But I think sort of 333 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 5: the things that you would expect based off of how 334 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:55,280 Speaker 5: the Lions end of their season. I mean, we know 335 00:14:55,680 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 5: the offensive line, the physicality of the run game. Obviously, 336 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 5: Dan Campbell and kind of what he built up out 337 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:03,520 Speaker 5: there and what people think of him, and you know, 338 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:07,000 Speaker 5: Ben Johnson, that's I know that that's going to be 339 00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 5: a challenge with the Chiefs. And we can talk about 340 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:10,760 Speaker 5: Chris jones on being in there, and this is sort 341 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 5: of maybe the mode that the Chiefs have fallen into 342 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 5: in the past, which is, you know, last year, sometimes 343 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 5: the defense bailed them out. This game, the offense is 344 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 5: gonna have to bail him out. Because I've been really impressed, 345 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:21,080 Speaker 5: and I think a lot of people are, obviously with 346 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:24,720 Speaker 5: him getting all the recognition last year, and then the coaching, 347 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:27,480 Speaker 5: you know, interviews in the offseason, probably gonna be head 348 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 5: coached pretty soon. But you know, what they do offensively 349 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:33,480 Speaker 5: and how talented they are, all those things I think 350 00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 5: are things that the Chiefs are watching. And then obviously, 351 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:38,480 Speaker 5: and he's been asked about Aiden Hutchinson so far this 352 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:41,360 Speaker 5: week and kind of how the Chiefs plan to attack 353 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:43,760 Speaker 5: the Lions on that end of it. So I see 354 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:45,960 Speaker 5: two teams are probably gonna be pretty sucessful offensively in 355 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 5: this particular game, especially with the Chiefs down there guy. 356 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:50,280 Speaker 5: And then you know, the Chiefs offense just being what 357 00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 5: it is, and if the offensive line really is sort 358 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 5: of the standard they think it is. Giving Patrick Mahomes 359 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:57,560 Speaker 5: extra time in the pocket, it was sort of funny 360 00:15:57,560 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 5: here in the preseason he talks everybody's prett season Patrick 361 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 5: Mahomes does about how he likes to get in there 362 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 5: just enough to get hit once just to kind of 363 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:06,800 Speaker 5: feel what it feels like. And the joke here was 364 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:09,360 Speaker 5: he played two games and didn't get hit. Yeah, of 365 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 5: course trying to get hit in the offensive Linde and 366 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:13,440 Speaker 5: wouldn't let him get hit because they were blocking so well. 367 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:16,040 Speaker 5: So if you give him time. Obviously, the way he's 368 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:17,920 Speaker 5: playing quarterback now and the way that they spread out 369 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:20,120 Speaker 5: the field, it's really dangerous. So I can definitely see 370 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:21,760 Speaker 5: both these offenses having some success. 371 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:23,360 Speaker 4: I'm sure you don't want to be that guy in 372 00:16:23,400 --> 00:16:26,520 Speaker 4: the film room that's letting your forty million dollars quarterback 373 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:29,480 Speaker 4: get hit, So there's probably some pride in that offensive 374 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:32,360 Speaker 4: line room not being that guy. But look, Jesse, I'm 375 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:36,000 Speaker 4: excited to go to Arrowhead because it's the last stadium 376 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:37,960 Speaker 4: to mark off kind of my list of all the 377 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 4: NFL teams. 378 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 1: I know. 379 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:41,960 Speaker 4: Jared Golf said this week he's never played there. It's 380 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 4: expected to be rowdy, it's the home opener, it's coming 381 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 4: off a super Bowl. The banner is being raised. What 382 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:49,680 Speaker 4: can Lions fans who make that track? What can the 383 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:52,400 Speaker 4: Lions players and coaches expect from Arrowhead? Thursday night on 384 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 4: National TV to kick off the twenty twenty three season. 385 00:16:56,040 --> 00:16:58,760 Speaker 5: Well, get there early, because I mean, I have an 386 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:01,880 Speaker 5: awesome job. The apple worst part of my job is 387 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:05,280 Speaker 5: parking my car and then walking through all these people 388 00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:09,159 Speaker 5: who are barbecuing and having great a great time and 389 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:12,320 Speaker 5: great beverages, and it's going, Okay, it's time for me 390 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 5: to go to work. 391 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:13,119 Speaker 6: Folks. 392 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:15,920 Speaker 5: You know, no fun here to at least at there's 393 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:17,919 Speaker 5: no fun there to walk in up the lot and 394 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:20,200 Speaker 5: just see those people. But the smells will be amazing. 395 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:24,280 Speaker 5: It's just like the biggest tailgate. Obviously plays like a 396 00:17:24,320 --> 00:17:26,919 Speaker 5: college atmosphere because of how rowdy the fans get and 397 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 5: you mentioned all the hoopla, all the banner dropping. But 398 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:33,280 Speaker 5: when it's on defense the team, the fans get loud. 399 00:17:33,480 --> 00:17:36,080 Speaker 5: It'll be one of a lot of stadiums. Just be 400 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:39,119 Speaker 5: anticipating that, obviously, but get there early. I enjoy the 401 00:17:39,119 --> 00:17:40,800 Speaker 5: smells of the barbecue. I always do it if I 402 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:43,879 Speaker 5: can't partake in it. But yeah, it's people will be 403 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 5: fired up for this game, and obviously they'll be fired 404 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:47,960 Speaker 5: up for the season opener, and the Detroit Lions obviously 405 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:49,720 Speaker 5: have the respect of the Chiefs based on how they 406 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:51,560 Speaker 5: ended last season, so it should be a great game. 407 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 5: For opening kickoff, and I'm sure that's one of the 408 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:56,360 Speaker 5: reasons that the NFL powers to be targeted that one 409 00:17:56,400 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 5: because it should be two great offenses, two great teams, 410 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:02,199 Speaker 5: and then obviously slide of Arrowhead with everything that's surrounding it, 411 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:04,600 Speaker 5: both in the parking lot and in the stadium. 412 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:06,560 Speaker 4: It's one of the most iconic places. I'm excited to 413 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:09,240 Speaker 4: be in town for it. I'm just excited. It's football. 414 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:11,840 Speaker 4: It's week one again. We're writing about football. That kind 415 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 4: of matters now. Jesse great insight. You can catch all 416 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:16,720 Speaker 4: his stuff on the Kansas City start. He does a 417 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:19,600 Speaker 4: great job covering the Chiefs over there. We will see 418 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:22,480 Speaker 4: you Thursday night in Kansas City. It should be fun, 419 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 4: it should be explosive, and two teams that are pretty 420 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:27,399 Speaker 4: hungry to get off to a good start. 421 00:18:28,119 --> 00:18:29,480 Speaker 5: All right, appreciate having me, Thanks Jim. 422 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:41,840 Speaker 4: Welcome back to the twenty MINLU Huddle podcast presented by Microsoft, 423 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:43,840 Speaker 4: and I am very excited to welcome in. 424 00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:45,560 Speaker 1: A'm on ra Saint. 425 00:18:45,359 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 4: Brown, the Pro Bowl receiver over one hundred catches last year, 426 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:53,359 Speaker 4: over one thousand yards, one of the best young wide receivers. 427 00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:53,320 Speaker 2: In the game. 428 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:56,479 Speaker 1: Thanks for joining me. I appreciate it's week one. Finally, 429 00:18:56,520 --> 00:18:57,480 Speaker 1: isn't it exciting now? 430 00:18:57,520 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 4: I mean camp was so long, right the off season 431 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:03,480 Speaker 4: and OTAs, and is that excitement ramp up for you 432 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:05,720 Speaker 4: now that you're preparing for opponent, you're watching film and 433 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:06,400 Speaker 4: it's Casey. 434 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:08,600 Speaker 6: Yeah, I would definitely, I would say, uh, you know, 435 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:10,880 Speaker 6: the like you said, the dog days of camp, going 436 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:14,600 Speaker 6: against the same defense every day, I mean competing. They 437 00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:16,920 Speaker 6: got guys, new guys on defense there they look great, 438 00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:19,200 Speaker 6: but going up against them every day, I mean made 439 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:21,320 Speaker 6: us better throughout camp. And then you know, you get 440 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:23,679 Speaker 6: the joint practices, you get to go against other other teams. 441 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:26,000 Speaker 6: But now it's real. I mean you had the preseason games. 442 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:28,160 Speaker 6: We didn't play in the games, but we had those 443 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:31,879 Speaker 6: two joint practices and obviously you know camp, all the 444 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:33,480 Speaker 6: stuff that we did, and not finally going to the 445 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:35,040 Speaker 6: first game, it's like, all right, now we have a 446 00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:37,679 Speaker 6: game plan, we know who are going against. You know, 447 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:39,480 Speaker 6: we think we know what they're gonna run. So it's more, 448 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:42,760 Speaker 6: you know, focused on details every day, whether it's you know, 449 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:45,600 Speaker 6: first down, second down, third down, red zone. So it's 450 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:47,879 Speaker 6: nice to get back in that flow of a game week. 451 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:50,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, but on the side, you're also getting into the 452 00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:52,880 Speaker 1: podcast game a little bit, right, tell us a little 453 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:53,320 Speaker 1: bit about that. 454 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:55,120 Speaker 6: Yeah, so me and my brother we have our own 455 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:57,199 Speaker 6: podcast with the thirty third team. We've been doing it 456 00:19:57,240 --> 00:19:59,959 Speaker 6: for Last year was our first season, so this is 457 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:02,399 Speaker 6: would say a second, you're doing it. I mean, we 458 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:03,960 Speaker 6: have fun with it. We have some guests on there. 459 00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:06,760 Speaker 6: We actually got a special guest on the next episode, 460 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 6: so let's stay tuned. 461 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:10,520 Speaker 1: Look at the teas. It's like a professional here. 462 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 6: But now it's really fun just to you know, talk 463 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:16,399 Speaker 6: ball and other people they like watching it, so we 464 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:17,320 Speaker 6: just keep doing it. 465 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:18,199 Speaker 1: No, that's why I love this thing. 466 00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:19,920 Speaker 4: Right, you get a guest in, you get to talk 467 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:24,200 Speaker 4: some ball and it's great. Let let's talk about your expectations. 468 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:25,800 Speaker 4: You know, obviously the team. 469 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 2: Goal is number one for you. 470 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 4: You've always been that team guy and the excitement that 471 00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:31,440 Speaker 4: builds around the team. But I'm on ray, you're coming 472 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:34,000 Speaker 4: off one hundred catches, you're coming off a thousand yards. 473 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:37,480 Speaker 4: Just what can fans expect from from you in year 474 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:39,920 Speaker 4: three now that you've really kind of established yourself. 475 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:42,439 Speaker 6: Yeah, I would say for me, I just want to 476 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:45,560 Speaker 6: be better than I was last year, whether that's you know, 477 00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:49,159 Speaker 6: more stats with more catches, you can look at the numbers, 478 00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:51,400 Speaker 6: more touchdowns, more yards, whatever. I want to be better 479 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:53,520 Speaker 6: and all that, but just a better team and obviously 480 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:57,480 Speaker 6: I want to be a better leader, just everything overall. 481 00:20:57,520 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 6: Whatever I did last year, I always want to, you know, 482 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:00,719 Speaker 6: think I can be always a better I look at 483 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:02,960 Speaker 6: the film from last year and I always you know, 484 00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:04,639 Speaker 6: I'm always really hard on myself. I feel like I 485 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:08,480 Speaker 6: can do so much stuff better if I maybe you know, 486 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:11,320 Speaker 6: turn up faster on this catch, maybe broke out and 487 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:13,199 Speaker 6: that choice for us. So little things like that that 488 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:16,200 Speaker 6: I'm always super critical about myself. But I mean, going 489 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 6: into this year, just trying to keep you know, trying 490 00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:19,240 Speaker 6: to get better is always the goal for me. 491 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:23,360 Speaker 4: Year two in Ben Johnson's offense, you know, we've talked 492 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:25,879 Speaker 4: to Jaredy's talked about just some of the details that 493 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:28,400 Speaker 4: you've been able to get into. What maybe if you've seen, 494 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:31,280 Speaker 4: is the biggest difference between year one of Ben and 495 00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:32,280 Speaker 4: now year two. 496 00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:36,600 Speaker 6: I would say the details. I would say, he's feel 497 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:38,720 Speaker 6: like he's able to do more stuff with us just 498 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:41,639 Speaker 6: because we're comfortable in the offense. A lot of the 499 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:43,800 Speaker 6: same guys that are here. Obviously we've got some new faces, 500 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:45,320 Speaker 6: but a lot of the same people that were here. 501 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:48,040 Speaker 6: So he's able to move us around, do things that 502 00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 6: we did last year, and maybe dress it up differently, 503 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:52,359 Speaker 6: maybe make it a little bit harder, like I mean, 504 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:54,040 Speaker 6: maybe on this show you have to adjust cover two. 505 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:56,200 Speaker 6: If you see this, you got to run this. So 506 00:21:56,680 --> 00:21:58,399 Speaker 6: we already know the simple stuff. So now's taking it 507 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 6: to the next level. And it's given him as a 508 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:02,520 Speaker 6: play caller more, you know, more options for us and 509 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:04,760 Speaker 6: I mean us as receivers. If we can get into 510 00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:06,280 Speaker 6: the perfect play, I mean, there's nothing better. 511 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:07,960 Speaker 4: Let's just say, that's gonna be really exciting for you, 512 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:10,080 Speaker 4: right because you saw the success that he had on 513 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 4: what a terrific play color he was. And you watch 514 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:14,920 Speaker 4: him and he sees something in the first quarter and 515 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:17,200 Speaker 4: then he sees that same formation from the defense, but 516 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:19,600 Speaker 4: he's got a different counter for it, you know, And 517 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:21,880 Speaker 4: now you can get into some of those little It's 518 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:23,920 Speaker 4: got to be really exciting for you guys, just to 519 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:25,680 Speaker 4: know that that he's going to put you in the 520 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 4: best places to succeed. 521 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:28,760 Speaker 6: Yeah, it's awesome. I mean, like you said, for us 522 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:30,520 Speaker 6: as players, all we got to do is go out there. 523 00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:32,600 Speaker 6: Obviously we get the game planner and the way we 524 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:35,359 Speaker 6: got to listen listen to him execute it on practice. 525 00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:36,960 Speaker 6: Obviously we put it on tape and sell out looks. 526 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:39,000 Speaker 6: But if we you know, if we do what they 527 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:42,480 Speaker 6: tell us as as coaches, we listen to them, we execute. 528 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:44,440 Speaker 6: I mean, they're gonna put us in position to make play. 529 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 6: So that's what I love about this coaching staff is 530 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 6: they do a great job of moving guys around into 531 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:51,399 Speaker 6: doing what they do best. And if we can just 532 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:52,640 Speaker 6: go out there and play for you and have fun. 533 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:54,879 Speaker 1: What was the focus for you this offseason? Is there 534 00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:55,760 Speaker 1: anything particular? 535 00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:58,840 Speaker 4: I know we've talked about maybe being more a part 536 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:01,119 Speaker 4: of the vertical game and stuff like that, but I'm curious, 537 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:02,480 Speaker 4: just from your perspective. 538 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:03,680 Speaker 3: Was there was there a focus something you kind of 539 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:06,119 Speaker 3: notched on the same season. I wouldn't say really. I 540 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:07,840 Speaker 3: kind of do the same, you know, kind of the 541 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:10,119 Speaker 3: same workover tow every every off season. You know, I 542 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:12,600 Speaker 3: get on the track always, I'm always running on the track. 543 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:15,520 Speaker 3: I'm doing receiver drills on my receiver coach back home, 544 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:18,000 Speaker 3: whether that's releases, you know, cone drills, getting in and 545 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:20,720 Speaker 3: out of my brace, catching the ball whatever it is, receiver, 546 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:23,280 Speaker 3: you know, related and then getting in the way. 547 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:24,760 Speaker 6: We're making sure I'm strong. So I would say, you 548 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:26,560 Speaker 6: know early on the off season, that's never been an 549 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:29,680 Speaker 6: issue on the off season. I you know, I'm getting 550 00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:31,480 Speaker 6: back strong because I kind of you lose that strength 551 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:33,560 Speaker 6: throughout the season because it's a long season. So just 552 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:35,000 Speaker 6: getting back in the weight room once time, you know, 553 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:37,320 Speaker 6: back to have all my strength. I start running again 554 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:38,480 Speaker 6: and do the same thing over and over. 555 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:41,080 Speaker 1: Have you ever been played an Arrowhead? Has your college 556 00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:42,639 Speaker 1: ever taken there or anything? 557 00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:43,000 Speaker 5: Not? 558 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:44,400 Speaker 1: So how I mean that really? 559 00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:47,199 Speaker 4: You talk about like lambeau Field, right, that's like one 560 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:50,119 Speaker 4: of the iconic places, and you hear about the noise 561 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:53,240 Speaker 4: and the fan base and what's the excitement level of 562 00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:56,560 Speaker 4: one playing at Arrowhead? But then i'mon Rod just being 563 00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:59,200 Speaker 4: the number one game too, and what the league thinks 564 00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:01,840 Speaker 4: of this team to put you guys on that showcase 565 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:03,720 Speaker 4: against the against the Super Bowl defend. 566 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:06,240 Speaker 6: I'm super excited. I just thought about earlier, just now 567 00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:07,920 Speaker 6: in the locker room. I was like, I know, we 568 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:09,600 Speaker 6: have the first game this year, and last year we 569 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:11,280 Speaker 6: had the last game of the season. So it's kind 570 00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:13,080 Speaker 6: of ironic how we had the last game of the 571 00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:15,240 Speaker 6: season and then we got the first game this year. Yeah, 572 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:19,000 Speaker 6: but it's I'm super excited because, you know, when I 573 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:20,879 Speaker 6: first got here, I don't know, we didn't have too 574 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:22,399 Speaker 6: many prime time games. I think we had one or 575 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:25,439 Speaker 6: two my rookie year, and then you know last year, 576 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:26,920 Speaker 6: I think we probably had one or two again. So 577 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:29,520 Speaker 6: to finally be, you know, kind of have more of 578 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:31,479 Speaker 6: those games and allow us to showcase what we can 579 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:35,160 Speaker 6: do as a team, I'm really excited for that because, 580 00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:37,399 Speaker 6: I mean, you can't really you can't control some of 581 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:39,200 Speaker 6: those things, and when you do get a chance to 582 00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:41,840 Speaker 6: show the world, you know, all the work that we 583 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:44,119 Speaker 6: put in, that's our chance to do it. So I 584 00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:44,560 Speaker 6: can't wait. 585 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:46,840 Speaker 4: What is to say about this football team in the 586 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:49,840 Speaker 4: excitement that surrounds obviously big expectations not only in the 587 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:53,080 Speaker 4: building but outside the building and nationally as well. But 588 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 4: to showcase you guys in that game, what does it 589 00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:59,480 Speaker 4: say about what the league thinks you guys are capable 590 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:01,159 Speaker 4: of and what kind of team you guys have and 591 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:02,680 Speaker 4: what kind of head coach Dan Campbell is. 592 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:05,600 Speaker 6: Yeah, I think they you know, they think a lot 593 00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:08,480 Speaker 6: about us. I think obviously from starting from the coach, 594 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:11,560 Speaker 6: from coach Campbell and then through the players. I think, 595 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:12,800 Speaker 6: I mean, we proved it last year. We had a 596 00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:14,560 Speaker 6: pretty good year. I think the way we finished the 597 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:16,520 Speaker 6: year was something that you know, caught a lot of 598 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:19,119 Speaker 6: people's attention. And if we can just build off that 599 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:21,480 Speaker 6: going into this year, not you know, not starting off 600 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:23,680 Speaker 6: slow like we did last year, just starting off straw 601 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:25,440 Speaker 6: and then keeping that same momentum with us, because I 602 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:27,360 Speaker 6: think a lot of this league has to do with momentum. 603 00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:29,200 Speaker 6: I think if you you know, win a few games 604 00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:32,359 Speaker 6: and get that taste in your mouth of winning, you 605 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:35,120 Speaker 6: can kind of, you know, finagle someone's out of there 606 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:36,919 Speaker 6: moving forward. So I think that's what we did last year. 607 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:39,600 Speaker 6: We figured out how to win games, and if we 608 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:41,960 Speaker 6: can just keep that up this year, I think we'll 609 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:43,040 Speaker 6: be you know, we'll be in good hands. 610 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:44,680 Speaker 4: I want to ask you about a couple of youngsters, 611 00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:48,000 Speaker 4: you know, Jamier Gibbs, Sam Laporta, and I think even 612 00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:50,720 Speaker 4: James uh A Mitchell you can kind of throw in 613 00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:52,719 Speaker 4: there as well. It didn't play a ton is now 614 00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:55,480 Speaker 4: over that knee injury. I'm just curious what what maybe 615 00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:59,440 Speaker 4: Gibbs and Laporta particularly bring to the to the to 616 00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:01,960 Speaker 4: the offense, and what fans can maybe expect from those 617 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:04,520 Speaker 4: guys and and how they maybe create some matchups that 618 00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:06,840 Speaker 4: are favorable to the offense but maybe could help you 619 00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:07,480 Speaker 4: out too. 620 00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:10,160 Speaker 6: Yeah, I think Gibbs and I'll just start with Gibbs. 621 00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:13,320 Speaker 6: I mean he's super, super explosive. I mean he jumps 622 00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:15,239 Speaker 6: off right away. As you watch him, you know, if 623 00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 6: he has any type of space, I mean, you watch 624 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:19,280 Speaker 6: him hit the guys. He's he's super explosive. So I 625 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:20,800 Speaker 6: think he's going to create a lot of you know, 626 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:23,920 Speaker 6: explosive runs for us. I mean he might take a 627 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:26,320 Speaker 6: he might take a fifteen yard run to the house 628 00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:29,479 Speaker 6: for eighty yards. So that's something that's super I think 629 00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:30,960 Speaker 6: rare in this league and we and we have that 630 00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:32,960 Speaker 6: in him. So I can't wait to watch him go 631 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:35,120 Speaker 6: out and play. And obviously, you know, out the back 632 00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:37,840 Speaker 6: of it can run, rods can catch, So he's definitely 633 00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:39,399 Speaker 6: gonna be a He's gonna be. 634 00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 1: A with him as a receiver. 635 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:43,119 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, you don't see many running backs that 636 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:44,840 Speaker 4: you know, catch it one away from their body. 637 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:45,919 Speaker 1: He doesn't like. 638 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:47,120 Speaker 2: Look a loose stride. 639 00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:49,920 Speaker 4: He's just very fluid when he catches the football, so 640 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:51,040 Speaker 4: it should be fun. 641 00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:53,800 Speaker 1: He's nice, like he's nice. 642 00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:55,919 Speaker 4: One other guy I want to ask you about, too, 643 00:26:56,080 --> 00:27:00,560 Speaker 4: that I think is very underappreciated this league's Leaf and 644 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:03,680 Speaker 4: just how important he is to what you guys do. 645 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:06,720 Speaker 4: Forty seven catches last year over seven hundred yards. Also 646 00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:08,960 Speaker 4: the number two punt returner in the league, can step 647 00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:11,520 Speaker 4: in and play any position. Just having a guy like that, 648 00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:14,080 Speaker 4: I thought it was very deserved the contract that he 649 00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:16,040 Speaker 4: got this Offsee how important is a guy like that 650 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:16,720 Speaker 4: to this offense. 651 00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:18,800 Speaker 6: I think he's super one of the most underrated guys 652 00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:21,239 Speaker 6: in this league. Like you said, I think he can 653 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:23,800 Speaker 6: run an every route in the route tree. He creates 654 00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:25,680 Speaker 6: some of the most separation I've ever seen at receiver. 655 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:29,280 Speaker 6: He's fast, can run, can catch with the ball in 656 00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:31,399 Speaker 6: the sands. He special obviously you guys seen him at 657 00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:33,560 Speaker 6: prime return. So and then on top of that, one 658 00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:36,280 Speaker 6: of the best punt returns in the league. Shout out 659 00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:39,920 Speaker 6: to Leaf, all Pro, you're the best. I mean, he's 660 00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:41,640 Speaker 6: and he's I think the best team that I've ever 661 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:44,880 Speaker 6: had in my life. So all that combined, I think 662 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:49,480 Speaker 6: he's super under rated. But us in this facility, we 663 00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:51,840 Speaker 6: know what Leaf brings. I mean, you ask any of 664 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:54,040 Speaker 6: the receivers, the dbs that that got the gart him 665 00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:57,680 Speaker 6: every day. He's a problem. So just having him on 666 00:27:57,720 --> 00:27:59,880 Speaker 6: our team, we're super We're super glad he's on our team. 667 00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:02,280 Speaker 6: I mean, if you give him, if you get him 668 00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:04,240 Speaker 6: a one on one route and it's anything you know 669 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:06,879 Speaker 6: past fifteen twenty yards and he's breaking down, he's probably 670 00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:09,040 Speaker 6: gonna win because he got that speed. So DB's opened 671 00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:10,800 Speaker 6: up and he's still good at the top of the 672 00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:13,239 Speaker 6: route separation. I mean, I think he has it all. 673 00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:14,840 Speaker 4: I love I love Khalif I know you got to 674 00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:16,240 Speaker 4: get out of here, you got some meetings, you still 675 00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:19,399 Speaker 4: got to get to what's the expectation for how Kansas 676 00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:22,480 Speaker 4: City might approach you and how they might play you 677 00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:24,840 Speaker 4: and how maybe you'll have to adjust? Now, I mean, 678 00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:28,080 Speaker 4: you are now considered, you know, one of the guys 679 00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:30,560 Speaker 4: in this league right the main weapon in Detroit in 680 00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:33,600 Speaker 4: the passing game. What's your expectation for how Kansas City 681 00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:34,359 Speaker 4: and teams will treat you? 682 00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:36,440 Speaker 6: Yeah, you know what, I don't know. I wish I 683 00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:39,400 Speaker 6: knew the answer, But what maybe they might double me 684 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:41,920 Speaker 6: on third down. You never know. They kind of on 685 00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:44,200 Speaker 6: tape have shown that a few games to double their 686 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:47,000 Speaker 6: you know, the guy that they like to throw the 687 00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:50,200 Speaker 6: ball do most on certain situations. So I can maybe 688 00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:51,560 Speaker 6: expect that back at the end of the day. You know, 689 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:53,680 Speaker 6: first game of the season, you never really know what 690 00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:56,000 Speaker 6: to expect, just like you know, they're probably thinking the 691 00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:58,400 Speaker 6: same thing about us, and we have the same coaches. 692 00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:00,239 Speaker 6: But like I said, first game of the season, never 693 00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:02,120 Speaker 6: really know. So I think for us, the biggest thing 694 00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:04,120 Speaker 6: is going into that game after a few you know, 695 00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:07,400 Speaker 6: first few drives, is adjusting, seeing what they're doing, and 696 00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:09,840 Speaker 6: then you know, trying to adjust off that and at 697 00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:11,240 Speaker 6: that point you know you're in the fire. You gotta 698 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:11,720 Speaker 6: go make plays. 699 00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:14,040 Speaker 4: That's the biggest game of adjustments this week one for sure, 700 00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:16,720 Speaker 4: because you just don't know what they've been doing and personnel. 701 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:17,360 Speaker 1: They got new guys. 702 00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:19,640 Speaker 4: There's not a lot of tape to watch. It should 703 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:21,840 Speaker 4: be fun to watch Thursday night. You got a big 704 00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:23,560 Speaker 4: smile on your face. I know you're excited. I know 705 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:25,520 Speaker 4: people out there are excited to watch. 706 00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:26,479 Speaker 6: What you can do. This year. 707 00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:28,480 Speaker 4: You have turned into one of the best wide receivers 708 00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:29,280 Speaker 4: in the NFL. 709 00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:31,400 Speaker 1: You're fun to watch every week Thursday. 710 00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:43,880 Speaker 4: Hi, yes, sir, welcome back to the twenty in the 711 00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:46,760 Speaker 4: Huddle podcast presented by Microsoft, and it is now the 712 00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:50,440 Speaker 4: key Matchups segment of the podcast. And for that, I 713 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:55,360 Speaker 4: welcome in Fox to sports director Dan Miller. You out 714 00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:59,320 Speaker 4: there know him best as the voice of the Lions voice. 715 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:01,720 Speaker 1: What would it's great to be? Week one? 716 00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:02,920 Speaker 2: What year is this for you? 717 00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:03,200 Speaker 3: Now? 718 00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:06,720 Speaker 2: This is nineteen nineteen nineteen doing the play by play. Yeah, 719 00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:10,280 Speaker 2: so it's uh and ma'am what a year. I mean, 720 00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:13,400 Speaker 2: we don't know where we're going, but we know that 721 00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:16,440 Speaker 2: the expectations are high. And just I mean, Tim, think 722 00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:19,160 Speaker 2: about you're opening in Kansas City. You are the opening 723 00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:21,360 Speaker 2: game for the league. This isn't an assignment the Lions 724 00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:23,880 Speaker 2: would have gotten in a lot of other years. But 725 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:26,680 Speaker 2: this says a lot about what people in the outside 726 00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:28,440 Speaker 2: think about Detroit. Now, these guys just go to go 727 00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:29,160 Speaker 2: out there and do it. 728 00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:30,080 Speaker 1: Got to go out there and do it. 729 00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:32,280 Speaker 4: And I think for Dan Campbell's a great opportunity. All 730 00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:34,040 Speaker 4: the hype that's been around this team for months, right, 731 00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:37,240 Speaker 4: and I think he thinks that this football team is 732 00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:39,520 Speaker 4: pretty good. I think everybody around the country thinks this 733 00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:42,320 Speaker 4: football team's pretty good. What a chance for Dan Campbell. 734 00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:44,360 Speaker 4: He's going to know right away this is the defending 735 00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:46,280 Speaker 4: Super Bowl champion, the number one offense in the. 736 00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:47,360 Speaker 1: League, They've got the MVP. 737 00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:50,200 Speaker 4: Where do you stand with the big boys at their place? 738 00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:51,920 Speaker 4: And so what a great opportunity for him to know 739 00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:54,240 Speaker 4: exactly week one, where's my football team stands? 740 00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:57,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's it's look, He's told his guys 741 00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:02,040 Speaker 2: embrace this embrace playing the chief, embrace being a narrowhead stadium, 742 00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:05,080 Speaker 2: embrace being the only game on to kick off the 743 00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:07,960 Speaker 2: entire season. And I think they can draw some from 744 00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:10,200 Speaker 2: what happened in Green Bay last year, where they were 745 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:12,280 Speaker 2: the only ones in that stadium that thought they were 746 00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:15,520 Speaker 2: gonna win and believed that they could win. And the 747 00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:17,600 Speaker 2: only guy you had next to you is the only 748 00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:19,320 Speaker 2: guy you had that believed in he was next to you. 749 00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:21,040 Speaker 2: So I think the guys that we're here can draw 750 00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:22,920 Speaker 2: off that a little bit. We all thought that was 751 00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:25,760 Speaker 2: such a kind of mile mark or victory. Well, this 752 00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:27,120 Speaker 2: is another mile down the road. 753 00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:28,920 Speaker 4: Well we have a great job, and that we get 754 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:32,840 Speaker 4: to kind of follow this journey along rather closely. And boy, 755 00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:35,560 Speaker 4: this is one I've been coning for fifteen years. I'm 756 00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:37,800 Speaker 4: most excited about going along for this ride. 757 00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:39,400 Speaker 2: I don't know why you wouldn't be. I mean this, 758 00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:43,240 Speaker 2: this stadium is unbelievable. Haven't been there a couple of times. 759 00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:46,840 Speaker 2: It is really special. And look, you're going up against 760 00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:48,440 Speaker 2: a couple of Hall of famers here, guys that have 761 00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:50,480 Speaker 2: been to the Super Bowl three of the last four years. 762 00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:54,240 Speaker 2: And this I agree with what you said. This is 763 00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:56,920 Speaker 2: a good team, the Lions, But now you got to 764 00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:58,840 Speaker 2: go out and do it. But on paper, I really 765 00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:01,320 Speaker 2: believe in what they're doing here, but now we get 766 00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:02,680 Speaker 2: to see. Okay, let's see it in action. 767 00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:03,040 Speaker 6: Do it. 768 00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:05,080 Speaker 4: Oh, let's get some of these key matches. But before 769 00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:07,000 Speaker 4: we do this, let's talk maybe about the elephant in 770 00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:09,480 Speaker 4: the room. And it's a matchup that we won't talk about, 771 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:14,400 Speaker 4: and maybe that's Chris Jones against Frank Ragnow it's looking 772 00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:16,959 Speaker 4: like they're not going to have Chris Jones. I mean, 773 00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:19,040 Speaker 4: we'll see till ninety minutes before kickoff. 774 00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:21,920 Speaker 1: You never know. But he hasn't reported to camp. 775 00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:24,479 Speaker 4: I mean, Dan, this is a guy who's probably one 776 00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:27,360 Speaker 4: of the most impactful defensive linemen in the league. 777 00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:29,440 Speaker 2: It's a big loss for them if he's not there, 778 00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:33,040 Speaker 2: regardless of what the reason is contract, maybe there was 779 00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:35,680 Speaker 2: an injury in some other world, or whatever happens. If 780 00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:39,320 Speaker 2: you line up in Kansas City doesn't have him, that's 781 00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:44,720 Speaker 2: a win for you because he's a great, dominant, difference making, 782 00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:49,280 Speaker 2: game changing player. And look, I'm not rooting for anything 783 00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:52,360 Speaker 2: in his contract or his world, but it's just a 784 00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:55,720 Speaker 2: plain fact. If he's not there, that is a whole 785 00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:58,280 Speaker 2: Kansas City has to fill. And if you're the Lions, 786 00:32:58,360 --> 00:32:59,960 Speaker 2: you want them to have to fill as many whole 787 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:03,520 Speaker 2: as possible. And it's all a compliment to him. It's 788 00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:06,080 Speaker 2: just how good he is and the void he leaves 789 00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:06,840 Speaker 2: if he's not there. 790 00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:08,800 Speaker 1: I'm sure Frank's not going to shed a tear. 791 00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:09,400 Speaker 6: For that one. Huh. 792 00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:12,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, He's still gonna look up and find somebody, there's 793 00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:14,160 Speaker 2: no doubt about it, and they'll be an NFL player 794 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:16,680 Speaker 2: and they'll be tough. But that dude is something else. Man. 795 00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:18,440 Speaker 4: Well, let's talk to talk about the guys that we 796 00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:20,640 Speaker 4: do expect to be there, and let's start with this one. 797 00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:24,240 Speaker 4: Aiden Hutchinson versus Juwan Taylor Juwan Taylor obviously their new 798 00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:27,320 Speaker 4: right tackle. They went out spent eighty million dollars four years' 799 00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:28,000 Speaker 4: to get him. 800 00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:28,520 Speaker 1: You know. 801 00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:31,960 Speaker 4: I talked to Jesse Now, who's the beat writer for 802 00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:35,120 Speaker 4: the Kansas City Star, you know, in this podcast, and 803 00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:37,760 Speaker 4: they think in Kansas City, this is the best offensive 804 00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:42,320 Speaker 4: line they've had in front of Mahomes in his tenure there. Obviously, 805 00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:45,640 Speaker 4: Aiden Hutchinson with a terrific rookie season. I had him 806 00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:47,480 Speaker 4: on my podcast for the Super Bowl. He said, yeah, 807 00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:49,400 Speaker 4: that was just an appetizer. Wait till next year. 808 00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:53,160 Speaker 1: So, and he's looked good in camp. Just what do 809 00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:54,080 Speaker 1: you think of that matchup? 810 00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:55,880 Speaker 2: I think Aiden has looked great number one, and I 811 00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:57,560 Speaker 2: think he's just kind of been under the radar of 812 00:33:57,600 --> 00:33:59,320 Speaker 2: this camp. I mean, there hasn't been a lot of 813 00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:02,400 Speaker 2: chatter about him, but watching him every day, he looks great. 814 00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:05,280 Speaker 2: He looks great physically, he just looks like he's moving. 815 00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:09,359 Speaker 2: He looks more confident. It's interesting Kansas City has changed 816 00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:14,200 Speaker 2: both tackles and for Aiden in this matchup. Look, Taylor 817 00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:16,480 Speaker 2: is known as a terrific pass protector, so Aidan's gonna 818 00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:18,759 Speaker 2: have to win that matchup. But more than that, I 819 00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:21,040 Speaker 2: think one of the important things that will happen here 820 00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:24,239 Speaker 2: is Aiden's got to set the edge because this guy 821 00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:27,640 Speaker 2: wants to get outside if pressure comes, and he is 822 00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:30,920 Speaker 2: so dangerous when he moves parallel to the line. So 823 00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:32,719 Speaker 2: you got to be able to get a cut off, 824 00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:34,919 Speaker 2: keep him inside and not let him do that. Now, look, 825 00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:37,799 Speaker 2: he's gonna get out, but as often as you can, 826 00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:39,640 Speaker 2: you've got to try to keep him contented. And I 827 00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:41,680 Speaker 2: think that's one of the really interesting things here, because 828 00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:44,239 Speaker 2: he's so good when he's off schedule, you've got to 829 00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:44,880 Speaker 2: try to prevent that. 830 00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:47,960 Speaker 4: To your point about Taylor too, only five sacks allowed 831 00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:52,920 Speaker 4: all of last year, just eleven total hurries. Yeah, he 832 00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:55,919 Speaker 4: was really, really good. What do you think Charles Harris 833 00:34:56,000 --> 00:35:00,040 Speaker 4: does opposite for Aiden? Having Charles Harris back out so 834 00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:01,840 Speaker 4: he only played six games last year, He's had a 835 00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:04,080 Speaker 4: terrific camp too, does that help Aiden? 836 00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:06,680 Speaker 2: He's motivated? I mean I think he is motivated. Look, 837 00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:09,359 Speaker 2: his contract got changed. Yeah, players don't love that. I mean, 838 00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:11,080 Speaker 2: this is how they make a living and that's the 839 00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:13,160 Speaker 2: bottom line. I think he's motivated to go out there 840 00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:14,440 Speaker 2: and show what he can do and get back to 841 00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:17,239 Speaker 2: the form that earned him that contract to begin with, 842 00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:20,600 Speaker 2: and I think one of the interesting things with Charles 843 00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:24,719 Speaker 2: and with now that entire room, Tim, I am so 844 00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:29,960 Speaker 2: interested to see how Aaron Glenn utilizes all these defensive 845 00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:31,799 Speaker 2: linemen because I think there's a lot of really good 846 00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:34,200 Speaker 2: pieces there. I just have no idea how he's going 847 00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:36,239 Speaker 2: to put it together. I think he has such versatility 848 00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:39,000 Speaker 2: there with guys that can move inside outside, and guys 849 00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:42,480 Speaker 2: that can get after the passer. I am as fired 850 00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:44,120 Speaker 2: up to see that as I am about anything with 851 00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:47,520 Speaker 2: this football team, because I think that's where they can 852 00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:49,440 Speaker 2: really get some improvement on the defense. I know the 853 00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:51,680 Speaker 2: back end we'll talk about, which is different and they're good, 854 00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:55,359 Speaker 2: but man, that front I think has the ability now 855 00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:58,440 Speaker 2: to be impactful, and we haven't seen a lot of 856 00:35:58,480 --> 00:35:59,920 Speaker 2: that SORR towards the end of last year, which is 857 00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:00,960 Speaker 2: I started winning. 858 00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:01,439 Speaker 1: Part in part. 859 00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:05,839 Speaker 2: But I'm I'm really eager to see how he uses 860 00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:06,399 Speaker 2: all these pieces. 861 00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:08,759 Speaker 4: This is the deepest and most talented defensive line Brad 862 00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:10,120 Speaker 4: Holmes and Dan Campbell have had. 863 00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:10,800 Speaker 1: In their tenure. 864 00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:14,160 Speaker 2: And you said verst of all, they have guys that 865 00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:16,400 Speaker 2: can move inside, outside, that can give a lot of 866 00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:18,600 Speaker 2: different looks, and I think they're going to keep offenses 867 00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:20,279 Speaker 2: on their toes. I think there's a lot of talent there. 868 00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:23,080 Speaker 4: Well, you tease this secondary a little bit, so let's 869 00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:25,799 Speaker 4: get into that one and probably the biggest edition there CJ. 870 00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:28,799 Speaker 1: Gardner Johnson, Right, He's certainly the loudest edition there. 871 00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:35,120 Speaker 4: Defense and this matchup I put against Patrick Mahomes because 872 00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:38,400 Speaker 4: I think it's an interesting one because CJ. Gardner Johnson, 873 00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:41,080 Speaker 4: you see the ball production, you see the interceptions from 874 00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:44,600 Speaker 4: last year, and with Mahomes being able to manipulate people 875 00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:47,080 Speaker 4: with his eyes and finding space, I think that's going 876 00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:49,200 Speaker 4: to be such a good matchup between one of the 877 00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:53,400 Speaker 4: best safety slash nickels slash cornerbacks in the league and 878 00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:55,279 Speaker 4: certainly one of the best quarterbacks in the league, and 879 00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:57,480 Speaker 4: that kind of game that they play with each other, 880 00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:01,120 Speaker 4: safety verse quarterback trying to manipulate and move guys in space. 881 00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:03,680 Speaker 2: I think one of the comforting things going into this 882 00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:06,000 Speaker 2: game that you wouldn't have felt last year is not 883 00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:08,719 Speaker 2: just the improvement in the secondary with Cam Sutton and 884 00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:12,200 Speaker 2: with CJ, but the fact that you have guys and 885 00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:14,800 Speaker 2: Tracy back now you have guys that have played in 886 00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:18,760 Speaker 2: big games. These lights won't be too bright for jooint 887 00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:20,680 Speaker 2: And some guys that we had on this team last 888 00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:23,440 Speaker 2: year hadn't been in a situation like this before. So 889 00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:25,880 Speaker 2: not only did they upgrade in terms of talent, they 890 00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:28,840 Speaker 2: upgrade in terms of experience and the ability to handle 891 00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:32,200 Speaker 2: a stage like this. And I ain't CJ. Look, everybody 892 00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:34,520 Speaker 2: had talked to says it starts with him on the 893 00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:36,680 Speaker 2: defense because he's the guy that just kind of stirs 894 00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:37,719 Speaker 2: the drink out there and. 895 00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:43,840 Speaker 1: Defense I love that he is. 896 00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:46,000 Speaker 2: And it's I'll tell you that battery does not run 897 00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:48,600 Speaker 2: low on charge because he is always going. And I think, yeah, 898 00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:51,440 Speaker 2: I think it's it's a good matchup. And and you know, 899 00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:53,560 Speaker 2: if you're Patrick Mahomes, you're looking at a guy who 900 00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:55,960 Speaker 2: led the NFL in interceptions last year. You know he's 901 00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:58,280 Speaker 2: out there. You know he's a ballhawk. You know, Kirby's 902 00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:01,000 Speaker 2: a ballhawk. You know Branch a ball hawk. You've got 903 00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:03,600 Speaker 2: guys on this line secondary now that can go out 904 00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:07,799 Speaker 2: and make plays on the ball and look as good 905 00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:09,359 Speaker 2: as Mahomes is. Every once in a while he'll give 906 00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:11,239 Speaker 2: you an opportunity and you better be ready to take 907 00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:11,880 Speaker 2: advantage of that. 908 00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:15,160 Speaker 4: And CJ will here's a terrific stat I ran I 909 00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:17,080 Speaker 4: ran across. I'm not sure if his ESPN or not, 910 00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:21,000 Speaker 4: but in the five previous game one weeks for Patrick 911 00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:26,200 Speaker 4: Mahomes seventy one point six completion percentage five and forty 912 00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:31,160 Speaker 4: two yards, eighteen touchdowns, zero interceptions, dan at one hundred 913 00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:34,080 Speaker 4: and thirty three point nine pass rating in his last 914 00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:37,960 Speaker 4: five week one games. That zero interceptions is the one 915 00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:39,480 Speaker 4: that jumps out to me. I think that's going to 916 00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:42,640 Speaker 4: be the difference maker. Can Detroit make him make a 917 00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:45,440 Speaker 4: couple mistakes, maybe make some short fields. I think that 918 00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:46,280 Speaker 4: might be the difference. 919 00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:47,799 Speaker 2: Well, that starts with the guys up front. 920 00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:48,040 Speaker 4: Yep. 921 00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:50,360 Speaker 2: That starts with them putting pressure on him. That starts 922 00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:52,320 Speaker 2: with them containing him, maybe throwing the ball before he 923 00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:55,640 Speaker 2: wants to, or throwing it a little more off balance 924 00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:57,600 Speaker 2: than he's capable of, which is saying something because he 925 00:38:57,640 --> 00:39:00,719 Speaker 2: can throw from many angle. But no, I I think Look, 926 00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:03,920 Speaker 2: when the Lions started winning last year, It's not like 927 00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:07,600 Speaker 2: there was this seismic shift. They stopped turning the ball over, 928 00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:10,839 Speaker 2: they started taking the ball away and stopped committing penalties. Well, 929 00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:13,040 Speaker 2: the takeaways will play a role in this game. If 930 00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:15,960 Speaker 2: they can get one or two extra possessions out of 931 00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:18,480 Speaker 2: Kansas City. I think that could be big in this 932 00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:21,879 Speaker 2: football game. It won't be easy because this guy's unbelievable. 933 00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:25,760 Speaker 2: He's a great, great football player and a massive challenge 934 00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:27,200 Speaker 2: for every level of that defense. 935 00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:28,640 Speaker 1: All right, let's flip over to the other side of 936 00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:28,839 Speaker 1: the ball. 937 00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:31,560 Speaker 4: Jamior Gibbs, the Brookie running back number twelve overall, versus 938 00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:36,000 Speaker 4: Nick Bolton, who I think is really an underappreciated linebacker 939 00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:37,920 Speaker 4: in this league. You saw the one hundred and eighty ten, 940 00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:44,359 Speaker 4: one hundred and eight of those solo and look, Ben 941 00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:47,520 Speaker 4: Johnson kind of made a few headlines when he said, look, 942 00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:50,439 Speaker 4: we're gonna use Jamiir Gibbs in ways. Maybe people don't 943 00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:55,799 Speaker 4: realize the same with David Montgomery. I'm I'm not uncomfortable 944 00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:58,560 Speaker 4: saying that Jamiir Gibbs is probably the best receiving running 945 00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:00,640 Speaker 4: back I've seen in my fifteen years this team. 946 00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:03,160 Speaker 1: And there've been a couple onths that come through. Reggie 947 00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:04,240 Speaker 1: Bush shoved best. 948 00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:07,520 Speaker 4: He's just so smooth, always catches the ball away, never 949 00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:10,600 Speaker 4: loses stride, just a really, really terrific receiver. We saw 950 00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:13,399 Speaker 4: him make plays down the field in training camp too. 951 00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:15,600 Speaker 4: I just think that's going to be such a unique 952 00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:19,719 Speaker 4: matchup because I think that's where some big plays could 953 00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:22,680 Speaker 4: come for Detroit's offense that maybe people don't expect right away. 954 00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:26,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, and we're all again interested to see how this 955 00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:28,920 Speaker 2: thing plays out. How do they use him in? What 956 00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:31,040 Speaker 2: ways can they move him around? The only thing that 957 00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:33,640 Speaker 2: Dan Campbell ruled out was punter, So that's not going 958 00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:34,000 Speaker 2: to happen. 959 00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:34,440 Speaker 6: We know that. 960 00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:38,200 Speaker 2: But other than that, I mean, look, we have seen 961 00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:42,319 Speaker 2: him through OTAs, through mini camp, through training camp. Tim 962 00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:45,239 Speaker 2: when he's one on one with somebody and gets a step, 963 00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:48,720 Speaker 2: it's over gone. And look, this is a terrific player Bolton, 964 00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:52,719 Speaker 2: but this is a difference maker in Gibbs. That's why 965 00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:56,239 Speaker 2: they drafted him and had no qualms about doing it, 966 00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:58,640 Speaker 2: even if people out there to start with that qualms 967 00:40:58,640 --> 00:40:59,840 Speaker 2: and then looked at it again said you know what, 968 00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:03,800 Speaker 2: that wasn't a bad move. But he is a special 969 00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:07,280 Speaker 2: guy with his quickness, and look, I think they're looking 970 00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:10,480 Speaker 2: at him as somebody that can help take the top 971 00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:14,279 Speaker 2: off a defense. Well, Jamison is not here, and that 972 00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:17,120 Speaker 2: is something this offense needs to have. DJ Shuk isn't 973 00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:18,719 Speaker 2: here anymore. He was a guy that put that fear 974 00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:23,480 Speaker 2: into defense. His speed will make defenses take note. And 975 00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:26,319 Speaker 2: I do think that that's something that we will see 976 00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:28,640 Speaker 2: play out over this season. Is just the way he 977 00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:31,040 Speaker 2: can do different things. You said it. He can line 978 00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:32,360 Speaker 2: up in the backfield, he can be a receiver, he 979 00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:34,080 Speaker 2: can be in the slot, he can go wide. He's 980 00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:36,600 Speaker 2: going to be everywhere, and every time he lines up, 981 00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:38,200 Speaker 2: that defense is going to have to figure out where 982 00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:38,400 Speaker 2: he is. 983 00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:40,920 Speaker 1: Bold prediction for a week one. I think I'm going 984 00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:41,239 Speaker 1: to do it. 985 00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:41,880 Speaker 6: What's it? 986 00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:44,560 Speaker 4: I think Jamiir Gibbs, when it's all said and done, 987 00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:47,680 Speaker 4: if he stays healthy, is second on this team interceptions 988 00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:49,359 Speaker 4: behind I'm on Rosh Saint Brown. 989 00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:51,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I looked at that, and if you 990 00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:53,600 Speaker 2: look at Swift the past couple of years, he was 991 00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:57,399 Speaker 2: seventy five ish targets per year the last couple of years. 992 00:41:57,600 --> 00:41:59,080 Speaker 2: Gibbs is going to get those. Those are going to 993 00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:01,719 Speaker 2: him now. And you know Montgomerer get his, but but 994 00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:04,920 Speaker 2: Gibbs is gonna get those and more. And and you 995 00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:08,520 Speaker 2: look with the receiving corps, it currently is more of 996 00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:11,600 Speaker 2: a you know, I would say a group effort than 997 00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:13,960 Speaker 2: one two I would say there's a good chance that 998 00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:14,480 Speaker 2: could happen. 999 00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:20,120 Speaker 4: All right, let's go Taylor Decker for Steorge Colofstis. They've 1000 00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:22,719 Speaker 4: got a lot of turnover on that defensive front. No, 1001 00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:25,360 Speaker 4: you know, Clark's gone and some of the other guys 1002 00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:27,279 Speaker 4: that they've kind of relied on over the years to 1003 00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:29,880 Speaker 4: get after the quarterback. It's a it's a kind of 1004 00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:34,279 Speaker 4: a they've gone younger there. Colossus six sacs last year 1005 00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:37,440 Speaker 4: eleven quarterbacks hits kind of was that second guy behind 1006 00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:39,319 Speaker 4: Chris Jones as a guy that they. 1007 00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:41,800 Speaker 1: Could rely on to get after the quarterback. And Taylor 1008 00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:43,880 Speaker 1: Decker that's just old steady Eddie, right. 1009 00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:46,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, it doesn't get a lot. I don't think it's 1010 00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:49,680 Speaker 2: enough credit. I think deserves much more credit than he gets. 1011 00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:53,120 Speaker 2: Big ten matchup Ohio State Purdue. That's what these guys 1012 00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:57,040 Speaker 2: will be going after each other. And and look, every 1013 00:42:57,120 --> 00:43:00,239 Speaker 2: year before the draft, we hear about guys that are 1014 00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:02,560 Speaker 2: going to be pass rushers in this league, and then 1015 00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:04,360 Speaker 2: a couple of years later, you thinking, whatever happened to 1016 00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:07,160 Speaker 2: that guy? Who's this guy's good, this guy is legit, 1017 00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:09,760 Speaker 2: this guy is a first round draft pick who played 1018 00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:12,640 Speaker 2: like it last year. Pressured the passer, as you said, 1019 00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:17,040 Speaker 2: had six sacks, had eleven quarterback hits. So you got 1020 00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:19,960 Speaker 2: a challenge here. And I think Kansas City knows that 1021 00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:22,719 Speaker 2: if they don't have Jones man and who is not 1022 00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:24,960 Speaker 2: going to play in this game. He's been suspended. You 1023 00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:26,799 Speaker 2: mentioned a couple of the guys that are not back, 1024 00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:30,640 Speaker 2: Clark and Dunlop, so they're looking to him and saying, 1025 00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:33,399 Speaker 2: you know your year two, but we need you. Yeah, 1026 00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:35,320 Speaker 2: and that's gonna be a big win for Decker to 1027 00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:38,719 Speaker 2: try to win that matchup because again, big key for 1028 00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:42,600 Speaker 2: the Lions offense. Don't give Kansas City extra possessions. Extra 1029 00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:44,360 Speaker 2: possessions sometimes come off pressure. 1030 00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:48,240 Speaker 4: Taylor Decker left tackle seventeen games last year, four sax allout. 1031 00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:50,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, like you said, he doesn't get enough credit. 1032 00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:54,400 Speaker 2: You don't have to. I mean, I think he is outstanding. 1033 00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:56,960 Speaker 2: I think he deserved more credit around the league than 1034 00:43:56,960 --> 00:44:00,399 Speaker 2: he gets. Some notoriety of Pro Bowl maybe, but it's 1035 00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:04,239 Speaker 2: it's such a difficult position, and frankly, it can be 1036 00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:06,680 Speaker 2: difficult when you're not winning to kind of get that 1037 00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:10,080 Speaker 2: that's great. This team starts winning, people might start taking 1038 00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:11,600 Speaker 2: note of Taylor Decker and what he does a little 1039 00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:11,880 Speaker 2: bit more. 1040 00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:14,760 Speaker 4: All right, let's end with this one. Brian Branch, dynamic 1041 00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:17,719 Speaker 4: rookie second round pick who has really impressed. I think 1042 00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:20,120 Speaker 4: everybody who's been to practice, the. 1043 00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:20,800 Speaker 1: Coaches say. 1044 00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:22,480 Speaker 2: Enough. 1045 00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:25,839 Speaker 4: I think I think they're under selling it a little bit. 1046 00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:27,839 Speaker 4: They've all said, hey, we saw the tape. We knew 1047 00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:29,520 Speaker 4: this kid was good. We had a first round grade. 1048 00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:33,120 Speaker 4: But he's been really, really good. Dan, and his welcome 1049 00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:35,799 Speaker 4: to the NFL moment is here you go. Here's Travis Kelce. 1050 00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:39,360 Speaker 2: He has forced his way into this starting lineup. 1051 00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:39,640 Speaker 6: Yeah. 1052 00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:42,560 Speaker 2: I mean, look, when they drafted him, I thought, great pick. 1053 00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:45,719 Speaker 2: But with the guys they signed in the second year 1054 00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:47,200 Speaker 2: of getting Tracy back, I thought, you know what, this 1055 00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:48,759 Speaker 2: might be a red shirt year for him. He might 1056 00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:52,600 Speaker 2: be a big time core special teams player. He has 1057 00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:55,359 Speaker 2: come in from day one and done nothing but make 1058 00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:59,040 Speaker 2: plays and look anything but like a rookie. I mean, 1059 00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:01,880 Speaker 2: he has more fourth No, he looks terrific. He plays 1060 00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:05,240 Speaker 2: with confidence, He's got ball skills, he dissects things very quickly. 1061 00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:08,960 Speaker 2: He has just forced his way onto the field for 1062 00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:11,160 Speaker 2: this team. And as you said, now he'll go up 1063 00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:14,080 Speaker 2: against the future Hall of Famer and look, I would 1064 00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:17,880 Speaker 2: think he'll have some help against Kelsey because you go 1065 00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:19,719 Speaker 2: back and watch the tape. I was looking at something 1066 00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:23,439 Speaker 2: the other day where he just spun Jaylen Ramsey into 1067 00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:26,480 Speaker 2: the turf. I mean, another future Hall of Fame and 1068 00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:29,919 Speaker 2: he's just a great player. And look, he's so good 1069 00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:33,440 Speaker 2: with Mahomes in particular. We talked about it a moment ago. 1070 00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:36,560 Speaker 2: When Mahomes gets off schedule, these two are right. He 1071 00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:38,960 Speaker 2: knows how to find Yeah, he knows how to find 1072 00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:41,480 Speaker 2: an open area and Mahomes knows how to find him. 1073 00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:43,600 Speaker 2: So it's a heck of a challenge. It's one that 1074 00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:45,640 Speaker 2: I don't think Brian will have on his own. But 1075 00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:49,040 Speaker 2: whomever is on Kelsey has got to be ready because 1076 00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:51,239 Speaker 2: he is just he's one of the game breakers in 1077 00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:52,800 Speaker 2: this league. He's a phenomenal player. 1078 00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:54,760 Speaker 1: He's one of those guys where truly is a team. 1079 00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:58,480 Speaker 2: Effort has to be. If you go back and try 1080 00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:00,759 Speaker 2: to break down the tape, you're not gonna find many 1081 00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:03,720 Speaker 2: times where somebody covered him one on one in Manda 1082 00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:07,120 Speaker 2: Man coverage and one. I mean, he's just so good 1083 00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:11,160 Speaker 2: and Mahomes can can read him. He just knows by 1084 00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:13,399 Speaker 2: watching the back of his Jersey which way he's going, 1085 00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:17,719 Speaker 2: and then boom the ball is there. So look, both 1086 00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:19,719 Speaker 2: these guys are going to the Hall of Fame, and 1087 00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:22,440 Speaker 2: that's one of the challenges the Lions have in this 1088 00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:24,520 Speaker 2: game is to try to find some way to slow 1089 00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:26,800 Speaker 2: them down. It has been that way since they got together. 1090 00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:29,560 Speaker 2: They're just incredibly talented and it is one of the 1091 00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:30,759 Speaker 2: real stories in this game. 1092 00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:34,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, ninety tackles for Branch at that Nickel spot for Alabama, 1093 00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:36,520 Speaker 4: last R fourteen tackles for lost a couple Hunderdeveds one 1094 00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:38,520 Speaker 4: of those guys that we've seen even here now kind 1095 00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:40,440 Speaker 4: of just does a little bit of everything and does 1096 00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:43,040 Speaker 4: it all pretty well. So it'll be interesting when that's 1097 00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:45,480 Speaker 4: that's the matchup, if he can get his hands on 1098 00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:47,360 Speaker 4: some footballs, if he can prevent Kelsey from make a 1099 00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:47,680 Speaker 4: big plan. 1100 00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:50,520 Speaker 2: I think again, much as we said about how they 1101 00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:54,400 Speaker 2: deploy the front, how they use Branch, this kid can 1102 00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:55,239 Speaker 2: play all over. 1103 00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:55,600 Speaker 6: Yeah. 1104 00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:57,279 Speaker 2: I mean, they got a lot of trust in him, 1105 00:46:57,280 --> 00:46:59,520 Speaker 2: I think already, and he can do a lot of things. 1106 00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:01,400 Speaker 2: So I'm gonna be really interested to see how they 1107 00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:04,520 Speaker 2: use him. I'm tim I'm interested. Look, this defense has 1108 00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:06,920 Speaker 2: got to be better it's got to be better than 1109 00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:08,600 Speaker 2: it was last year, and I think it's got a 1110 00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:10,960 Speaker 2: chance to not just be better, but to be good 1111 00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:15,080 Speaker 2: and to be one of the reasons they win instead 1112 00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:16,920 Speaker 2: of just kind of holding steady and not being a 1113 00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:18,960 Speaker 2: reason they lose. I really do. I think the talent 1114 00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:25,520 Speaker 2: is there for them to take people. It's it may 1115 00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:28,839 Speaker 2: not happen right away, because sometimes it takes a while 1116 00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:30,960 Speaker 2: to jail, but I think the talent is there for 1117 00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:34,839 Speaker 2: this defense to be good and and I think it's 1118 00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:40,120 Speaker 2: it's it's exciting because it is so hard to win 1119 00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:43,360 Speaker 2: and a shootout all the time. And in fairness to 1120 00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:45,520 Speaker 2: this defense, it was pretty good towards the end of 1121 00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:47,719 Speaker 2: last year and started doing things better, and that was 1122 00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:49,400 Speaker 2: one of the reasons that they want to eight out 1123 00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:51,440 Speaker 2: of ten. Just need to see everybody get off the 1124 00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:52,719 Speaker 2: block a little bit quicker this year. 1125 00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:55,120 Speaker 4: I think that's exciting because we can both agree that 1126 00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:57,239 Speaker 4: the offense is going to be pretty good, at least 1127 00:47:57,280 --> 00:47:58,320 Speaker 4: we expect it to be. 1128 00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:00,120 Speaker 1: It was last year, and I think and. 1129 00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:02,879 Speaker 2: Mike Johnson's guys blanking up front, so it's all good, 1130 00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:05,520 Speaker 2: So it's gonna be fun. 1131 00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:08,200 Speaker 4: I'm glad Week one is here. I'm excited now starting 1132 00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:10,239 Speaker 4: to talk about this stuff. We get to see it live. 1133 00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:13,080 Speaker 4: Thursday night is the Lions kickoff the regular season. We 1134 00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:15,880 Speaker 4: will all be listening to your call as we always are. 1135 00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:18,200 Speaker 4: You're one of the best in the business. Thanks for 1136 00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:21,320 Speaker 4: stopping by. Appreciate you, and let's hope this is this 1137 00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:22,120 Speaker 4: is a fun season. 1138 00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:23,879 Speaker 1: Appreciate man. All right, Thank you guys,