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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on

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Speaker 2: Welcome back my friends to Coast to Coast Sabrina Scott

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Speaker 2: with us as a spiritual teacher, tarot card reader, transformative

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Speaker 2: life coach whose work helps people claim their magic and

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Speaker 2: change their lives. Working with a global clientele, she is

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Speaker 2: a professional witch whose work has been featured in dozens

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Speaker 2: of magazines, radio features, and documentaries. She's an author and

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Speaker 2: creator of for books. Her website is linked up at

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Speaker 2: coastocoastam dot com. Sabrina, welcome back.

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Speaker 3: Have you been Thank you so much for having me.

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Speaker 3: I've been great and even better now that I'm here.

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Speaker 2: Well, we're looking forward to this. We're going to have

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Speaker 2: some fun and some knowledge from you.

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Speaker 3: I'm so excited.

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Speaker 2: How did you get involved in witchcraft?

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Speaker 3: Oh? Wow, it's always a big question. I love it.

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Speaker 3: It's something I've always been interested in. And I grew

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Speaker 3: up in something called spiritualism, which means that I went

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Speaker 3: to seances and table tippings and energy healing type of

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Speaker 3: things when I was really young, like eight years old,

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Speaker 3: ten years old. And with that, basically what happens is

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Speaker 3: spiritual phenomenon spiritual experiences becomes really normalized, and of course

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Speaker 3: I got interested in other things like witchcraft and magic,

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Speaker 3: and a little bit of it does run in the family,

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Speaker 3: so that's always helpful too.

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Speaker 2: Was it your mother, your grandmother that had the influence

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Speaker 2: on you?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, my mom's side of the family, so it would

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Speaker 3: be my mom and my mother on that side. I'm very,

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Speaker 3: very blessed for that.

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Speaker 2: Somehow you stumbled into magic. Tell me what you think

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Speaker 2: about magic.

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Speaker 3: I think there's a lot of very interesting preconceived notions

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Speaker 3: about what it is and isn't. A lot of people

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Speaker 3: think about card tricks and sleight of hand magicians and

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Speaker 3: shows like that. But the way that I think about

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Speaker 3: magic is it's really all about connecting with your intention

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Speaker 3: and focusing your energy to create the change that you

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Speaker 3: want to see in the world, whether that is yourself,

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Speaker 3: in your own life or the world at large. So

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Speaker 3: it really is just about shifting the energy within yourself

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Speaker 3: and the energy around you.

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Speaker 2: Does it always work?

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Speaker 3: Most of the time. It does if you know what

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Speaker 3: you're doing, But if you're new or your intention is

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Speaker 3: a little bit wobbly, you might not get the results.

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Speaker 3: I like to think about it like learning a language,

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Speaker 3: So you're not going to be fluent in Spanish after

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Speaker 3: one Spanish class. You're going to need to practice a

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Speaker 3: little bit. And magic and spirituality is exactly the same thing.

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Speaker 3: It takes a little bit of practice to get an instant,

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Speaker 3: excellent result.

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Speaker 2: The late Frank Sinatra used to sing a song called

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Speaker 2: that Old Black Magic. What is black magic?

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Speaker 3: It's a great question. A lot of peopleeople like to

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Speaker 3: separate magic into black and white, depending on the intention. Personally,

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Speaker 3: I don't think that magic really has a color. I

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Speaker 3: do think it's all a little bit gray, and people

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Speaker 3: usually use that word black magic to refer to something

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Speaker 3: that is malicious or harmful. But honestly, sometimes you can

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Speaker 3: harm people even if your intentions are positive. So I

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Speaker 3: always like to remind people to do magic and this

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Speaker 3: intention based spiritual work mostly on yourself, rather than trying

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Speaker 3: to control other people. So for me, that's really really

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Speaker 3: important to stay away from the bad vibes.

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Speaker 2: Sabrina are curses part of magic.

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Speaker 3: They can be. They absolutely can be. I've seen it happen,

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Speaker 3: I've undone some curses on people before. Absolutely. At the

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Speaker 3: same time, a lot of people have come to me

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Speaker 3: thinking that they're cursed and wanting me to undo it.

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Speaker 3: But most of the time, people who think they're cursed

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Speaker 3: are actually not cursed and are just the victims of

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Speaker 3: bad luck or their own bad choices. And there's definitely

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Speaker 3: magical and mundane ways to get out of that and

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Speaker 3: lead a better, happier life no matter what your circumstances are.

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Speaker 2: What would be the opposite of a curse?

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Speaker 3: Hmm? I love this question. I think it would probably

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Speaker 3: attracting healing, attracting positive circumstances to your life, and banishing

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Speaker 3: bad vibes from your situation. That could be doing magic

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Speaker 3: and spiritual practice to get rid of trauma, get rid

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Speaker 3: hold us back. And so instead of putting bad energy

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Speaker 3: because we do have control over that and might as

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Speaker 3: well work with what we can control to improve things.

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Speaker 2: Well. A curse by its nature is bad, though, isn't it?

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Speaker 3: It is? It is. I do think in some very

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Speaker 3: rare circumstances it can be deserved. That's maybe a controversial opinion,

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Speaker 3: but I very very very rarely will recommend that folks

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Speaker 3: their feelings are hurt, and in my mind, that's just

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Speaker 3: to only condone it in very severe or extreme circumstances,

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Speaker 3: and even then it's a little bit dangerous because a

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Speaker 3: curse can tie you energetically to somebody. So personally, for myself,

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Speaker 3: I tend to recommend my client is just walk away

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Speaker 2: Can anybody practice magic, and do most people who practice

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Speaker 3: It's a good question. I think anyone can learn. I'll

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Speaker 3: use that Spanish class analogy again. Anyone can go into

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Speaker 3: a Spanish class and learn Spanish. Eventually, people who speak

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Speaker 3: easier time with that than someone who only speaks English.

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Speaker 3: So anyone can learn. But there's definitely going to be

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Speaker 3: people who have an easier time, either due to growing

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Speaker 3: other people who have a little bit of a harder time,

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Speaker 3: But you can still absolutely learn. I one hundred percent

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Speaker 3: believe that, and I've taught people from all walks of life,

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Speaker 3: of your question was around you some people know that

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Speaker 3: they're doing magic. I think the most successful magic does

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Speaker 3: focusing all of their energy and effort into that intention.

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Speaker 3: That usually is when it works best. But I do

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Speaker 3: think that even if people aren't aware of that framework

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Speaker 3: of magic and what magic is, that that intention can

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Speaker 3: still be really, really powerful. And there's a lot of

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Speaker 3: cultures that talk about the evil eye, which is really

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Speaker 3: just a way of talking about bad vibes, whether through

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Speaker 3: just as simple as thinking ill towards somebody and as

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Speaker 3: simple as that. There's no ritual necessarily involved, no lighting

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Speaker 3: to protect ourselves from. So it's definitely something to think about.

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Speaker 2: Is it easy to practice magic or is it difficult?

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Speaker 3: Hmmm, it's a good question. I think it does get

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Speaker 3: easier the more skillful you get, but there's always room

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Speaker 3: for the beginner it does often feel a little bit

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Speaker 3: beginners usually like to follow an exact recipe for a spell,

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Speaker 3: like do this at that time, clap three times, say this,

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Speaker 3: be very exact. But over time, when you get more experience,

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Speaker 3: you don't really need the recipe anymore. So it's kind

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Speaker 3: It's probably going to be a lot better than what

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Speaker 3: same thing. Once you get more skills and more experience,

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Speaker 2: Hollywood has generally made witchcraft very evil, with the exception

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Speaker 2: too young for that.

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Speaker 3: No, I do remember that.

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Speaker 2: Actually with Elizabeth Montgomery, she would wiggle her nose whenever

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I watched that as a kid. It was fun.

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Speaker 2: Hollywood portrayed her as being a good witch, but that

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Speaker 2: was very unusual because most of the Hollywood witches weren't

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's changed a little bit, especially with

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Speaker 3: Harry Potter and that type of series, which does point

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Speaker 3: magic in a really positive way. Obviously that's not the

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Speaker 3: and uplifting and very much about success over adversity and

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Speaker 3: perseverance and friendship and all of these really lovely, virtuous themes.

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Speaker 3: And since it was directed towards children as a kind

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Speaker 3: of positive role model, I do hope that characters like

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Speaker 2: Well with Sabrina Scott talking about spiritualism and witchcraft, can

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Speaker 3: Yes, you can. So there's a lot of different ways

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Speaker 3: I call it spiritual hygiene. It's kind of like the

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Speaker 3: spiritual version of brushing your teeth, just keeping your energy

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Speaker 3: And another recommend I usually have for people is to

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Speaker 3: get some kind of good luck charm, and that can

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Speaker 3: be anything. A lot of people really love crystals these days.

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Speaker 3: It can be a necklace, a piece of jewelry hand

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Speaker 3: me down from a relative, and to carry it on

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Speaker 3: your person, in your bag, in your pocket, whatever. And

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Speaker 3: and happiness and contentment and makes you feel safe and protected.

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Speaker 3: And I think most of us will have an object

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Speaker 3: like that. And don't overthink it. It's it's always better

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Speaker 2: When people practice witchcraft the wrong way?

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Speaker 3: It's a great question, you know what? Not really like? Yes?

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Speaker 3: And no, I really do want to respect other people's paths,

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Speaker 3: and what other people do is in some ways none

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Speaker 3: and then I kind of have to redo it and

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Speaker 3: reteach them. So in some senses it does matter and

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Speaker 3: I do care. But on the flip side, I think

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Speaker 3: a lot of people practicing quote unquote wrong, the only

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Speaker 3: So that's kind of their own problem. When I really

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Speaker 3: when it begins to harm other people or it's being

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Speaker 3: used in a controlling way. That is really not something

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Speaker 3: that I can done, And I think a lot of

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Speaker 3: time folks doing that type of work need some other

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Speaker 3: type of intervention that isn't magical, perhaps therapy, perhaps journaling,

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Speaker 3: perhaps just taking a breath before doing anything malicious to

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Speaker 3: someone else. There's definitely always a better way to deal

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Speaker 2: I'm going to ask you as Sabrinna. They give us

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Speaker 2: two stories. One is good witchcraft, the other is bad.

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Speaker 2: Oh geez, what has happened that you've witnessed?

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Speaker 3: What has happened that I've witnessed? So really, how do

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Speaker 3: I even There's so many stories I could tell? How

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Speaker 3: do I choose? You know, what I will give? I'll

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Speaker 3: sort of a bad example first, And this is actually

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Speaker 3: an example of the evil Eye. So this was many

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Speaker 3: about me towards me, and I ended up getting incredibly

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Speaker 3: and I recovered pretty much immediately, like within like twelve hours.

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Speaker 3: my surgery on schedule, and everything was fine. I healed great,

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Speaker 3: everything was completely fine. But if I didn't know that

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Speaker 3: that was what was going on, it wasn't a typical illness,

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Speaker 3: would probably have had to reschedule and everything just would

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Speaker 3: have been really messed up. So I really do believe

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Speaker 3: the evil eye is a thing, and I really really

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Speaker 3: strongly recommend that folks do that really basic shielding practice

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Speaker 3: really really important. And in terms of an example for

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Speaker 3: something really positive, yes, yeah, let me think, there's so

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Speaker 3: when I'm able to guide them through their own magical

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Speaker 3: I'm able to guide them through that, I've seen some

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Speaker 3: enormous life transformations in people, and it's honestly the highlight

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Speaker 3: I've seen a total one to eighty in the people

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Speaker 3: It's honestly miraculous. And I see miracles all the time.

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Speaker 3: I see insane fantastic transformation all the time, like's it's

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Speaker 3: amazing the way that people are able to change their lives.

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Speaker 3: And I do see a lot of people getting divorced

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Speaker 3: And a lot of the time I see people before

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Speaker 3: they work with me thinking that this be all there is?

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Speaker 3: Is this all there is to life? Do I have

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Speaker 3: to stay in this miserable situation forever? And what I

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Speaker 3: love about magic and witchcrap and spirituality and intention setting

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Speaker 3: and all of this positive stuff I'm talking about, is

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Speaker 3: it really can help be the wind in people's sails

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Speaker 3: and help them realize, Wow, I do have control over

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Speaker 3: my life. I do have some agency here, and I

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Speaker 3: can work with my intention, I can work with spirituality,

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Speaker 3: I can work with my ancestors, I can work with

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Speaker 3: good positive energy from the universe to help catapult myself

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Speaker 3: into a new circumstance, into a better, happier, healthier life.

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Speaker 3: And it's absolutely amazing the changes that I've seen people

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Speaker 3: who with thought that their life was always going to

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Speaker 3: sometimes into being the happiest version of themselves they've ever

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Speaker 3: been like. It's it's absolutely fantastic. And one thing that's

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Speaker 3: super unique about magic is it connects people to their agency,

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