WEBVTT - O Canada! 0:00:05.120 --> 0:00:06.880 Is this a great game or what with the Hall 0:00:06.880 --> 0:00:09.440 of Famer Tim Kirkschen, I'm his son, Jeff Kirkshin. 0:00:09.800 --> 0:00:12.200 Hey, Dad, good to catch up with you. Y. It's 0:00:12.240 --> 0:00:13.200 great to see you. Jeff. 0:00:13.240 --> 0:00:18.240 You've shaved mustache and beard. You look like you're fourteen 0:00:18.360 --> 0:00:20.360 years old now even though you're thirty two. 0:00:20.520 --> 0:00:23.160 But it's quite all right. You look great. 0:00:24.760 --> 0:00:27.480 I appreciate it, Dad. I've been our family has been 0:00:27.480 --> 0:00:30.360 a little bit under the weather this weekend, and I 0:00:30.440 --> 0:00:32.720 just feel like when I finally start to get better, 0:00:32.840 --> 0:00:36.559 I just I take a long shower, I cut it 0:00:36.600 --> 0:00:39.040 all off on the beard and just try to start anew. 0:00:39.640 --> 0:00:42.320 And so I'm finally feeling a little bit better. But 0:00:43.080 --> 0:00:46.400 I'm so stoked because of where we are in the 0:00:46.400 --> 0:00:48.720 playoffs right now. That's the only thing keeping my head 0:00:48.800 --> 0:00:50.080 up every single evening. 0:00:50.159 --> 0:00:50.960 Yeah, it's great. 0:00:51.080 --> 0:00:58.040 So Monday night, I covered my twenty fifth Game seven 0:00:58.960 --> 0:01:02.279 of my career, and again, Jeff, without being corny, am 0:01:02.280 --> 0:01:05.800 I the luckiest guy in the world that I've covered 0:01:06.040 --> 0:01:09.479 twenty five game sevens. I went back and looked at 0:01:09.600 --> 0:01:14.240 every Game seven I ever covered. I can vividly recall 0:01:14.440 --> 0:01:17.640 every one of the twenty five and the latest one 0:01:17.840 --> 0:01:21.440 was just the whole series was just so so great. 0:01:21.720 --> 0:01:25.039 And again, Jeff, without being corny, what really strikes me 0:01:25.120 --> 0:01:28.680 when I go to these huge games is I walk 0:01:28.800 --> 0:01:32.080 through the crowd now after games I didn't get to 0:01:32.200 --> 0:01:34.920 use to do that normally, and I see the fans 0:01:35.080 --> 0:01:40.160 and I recognize again, Jeff, how important this is to 0:01:40.280 --> 0:01:44.720 them that they went to a Game seven or a 0:01:44.840 --> 0:01:47.880 Game six in Seattle. Jeff, when I walked through that 0:01:48.000 --> 0:01:51.880 crowd in Game six at T Mobile Park in Seattle, 0:01:52.120 --> 0:01:55.400 I walked past hundreds and hundreds of fans, and there 0:01:55.440 --> 0:01:59.880 were fathers and sons there together, and fathers and daughters 0:02:00.160 --> 0:02:03.120 seven years old, and they went to the game with 0:02:03.240 --> 0:02:06.360 their dad or their mom, and they're never gonna forget 0:02:06.400 --> 0:02:09.800 that the rest of their lives, that they were there 0:02:09.960 --> 0:02:12.639 the night that cal Ralely hit the home run, they 0:02:12.680 --> 0:02:16.440 were there the night that Juhanio Suarez hit the biggest 0:02:16.440 --> 0:02:18.919 home run in the history of the Mariners. And same 0:02:19.000 --> 0:02:22.840 thing with Blue Jay fans. I mean walking through the 0:02:22.919 --> 0:02:27.880 Rogers Center and seeing all those people, absolutely maniacal baseball 0:02:27.960 --> 0:02:32.040 fans about the Blue Jays, it just warms my heart 0:02:32.080 --> 0:02:35.800 that not just what I do for a living actually matters. 0:02:35.840 --> 0:02:39.240 But this game is so great and it's so beautiful 0:02:39.360 --> 0:02:44.720 that people cared deeply about their team. And Toronto is 0:02:44.760 --> 0:02:47.880 a better place to live when the Blue Jays are 0:02:48.080 --> 0:02:51.919 this good. Seattle is a better place to live when 0:02:51.960 --> 0:02:55.600 the Mariners are this good. It was just breathtaking to 0:02:55.680 --> 0:02:59.640 watch the entire series, as imperfect as it was, it 0:02:59.680 --> 0:03:03.919 was fascinating at every turn, and there were turns all 0:03:03.960 --> 0:03:04.520 the way through. 0:03:04.520 --> 0:03:08.480 It ain't that the truth, Dad, I mean, I have 0:03:08.560 --> 0:03:12.359 to admit having one series as a sweep and one 0:03:12.440 --> 0:03:15.960 series go to seven games, it kind of messes with 0:03:16.040 --> 0:03:18.560 your mind a little bit because now, heading into the 0:03:18.560 --> 0:03:21.079 World Series, you've got a team that's been hanging out 0:03:21.120 --> 0:03:23.359 for a little while and a team that pretty much 0:03:23.480 --> 0:03:26.400 just finished a very intense seven games. And I think 0:03:26.440 --> 0:03:28.920 that's going to really play into the dynamic when the 0:03:29.000 --> 0:03:33.680 Dodgers take over again the world on Friday during the 0:03:33.680 --> 0:03:35.560 World Series. It's gonna be a really we. 0:03:35.560 --> 0:03:38.520 Have a theory as baseball writers, Jeff, that if you're 0:03:38.520 --> 0:03:40.520 gonna play six games, you know we're gonna take a 0:03:40.560 --> 0:03:42.880 travel day and we're gonna travel again. They took a 0:03:42.920 --> 0:03:45.960 red eye flight from Seattle to Toronto, if we're gonna 0:03:45.960 --> 0:03:48.440 play six, then we have to play seven, Like those 0:03:48.520 --> 0:03:51.200 are the rules. We've had some of the greatest game 0:03:51.400 --> 0:03:55.320 sixes of all time, including Joe Carter in this ballpark 0:03:55.360 --> 0:03:58.760 with the home run to end the ninety three World Series. 0:03:58.760 --> 0:04:01.440 But if you're gonna go six, we got to go seven. 0:04:01.560 --> 0:04:05.320 And we went seven in this series, and the series, 0:04:05.360 --> 0:04:08.560 of course, was won by the Toronto Blue Jays. Jeff 0:04:08.640 --> 0:04:12.240 and I can't even begin to tell you how impressed 0:04:12.440 --> 0:04:16.000 I was by the Blue Jays in this postseason. You know, 0:04:16.120 --> 0:04:19.240 keep in mind they finished in the last place in 0:04:19.279 --> 0:04:24.200 their division last year. And John Schneider, they're really affable 0:04:24.320 --> 0:04:28.159 and smart. Manager told us that he walks to the 0:04:28.160 --> 0:04:32.360 ballpark some days and other days he drives to the ballpark. 0:04:32.400 --> 0:04:37.880 And he got a little superstitious that after losing, you know, 0:04:37.920 --> 0:04:41.359 the two games here one and two, that he was 0:04:41.400 --> 0:04:45.160 going to walk to the ballpark for Game six, and 0:04:45.320 --> 0:04:47.520 he got a bunch of hey, good to see you, 0:04:47.680 --> 0:04:48.880 good luck, and all that stuff. 0:04:48.920 --> 0:04:49.280 He said. 0:04:49.360 --> 0:04:52.640 Last year, I drove to the ballpark an awful lot 0:04:52.800 --> 0:04:55.920 because I didn't want to come back. 0:04:56.880 --> 0:04:57.560 I was going to be. 0:04:57.520 --> 0:05:00.479 Happy, but the Blue Jays won for a bunch of reasons. 0:05:00.600 --> 0:05:03.479 Number one, Jeff, they can really hit. And when I 0:05:03.520 --> 0:05:05.840 say hit, Jeff, they batted two to sixty five as 0:05:05.880 --> 0:05:09.040 a team during the regular season. That was the highest 0:05:09.080 --> 0:05:11.960 average in Major League Baseball. And even though we don't 0:05:12.000 --> 0:05:15.839 pay attention to that, I do. I think it's important. 0:05:15.920 --> 0:05:20.920 It means they put the ball in play. Unlike most teams, Jeff, 0:05:21.120 --> 0:05:24.479 they scored more runs than they had strikeouts in their 0:05:24.560 --> 0:05:29.279 eleven games. That's almost impossible to do in this day 0:05:29.320 --> 0:05:34.320 and age where the strikeout rate is unbelievably high. They 0:05:34.440 --> 0:05:37.280 put the ball in play. And of course, leading the 0:05:37.279 --> 0:05:41.320 way is vlag Guerrero Junior, who had one of the 0:05:41.360 --> 0:05:45.359 greatest postseasons at least leading into the World Series that 0:05:45.480 --> 0:05:49.960 I know I've ever seen. It just included power. He 0:05:50.040 --> 0:05:54.120 didn't barely struck out. It was remarkable. As Miles Straw 0:05:54.240 --> 0:05:57.640 of the Blue Jays told me, he said, Vlattie has 0:05:57.720 --> 0:06:01.440 power and Vladdie is a pest. Now it's hard to 0:06:01.480 --> 0:06:03.919 be both, Jeff. You know, if you're five foot five 0:06:04.080 --> 0:06:07.479 like me you or five six like you, your only hope 0:06:07.560 --> 0:06:09.640 is to be a pest at the plate. But when 0:06:09.680 --> 0:06:13.400 you're six two two forty like Fladdie, and you've got 0:06:13.440 --> 0:06:17.240 great power and you're fouling off pitches and not striking out. 0:06:17.640 --> 0:06:20.080 That's really impressive. And the other thing about him, Jeff, 0:06:20.240 --> 0:06:23.599 is people look at him and still think that he's 0:06:23.600 --> 0:06:27.719 some heavy set, overweight on athletic first baseman, and nothing 0:06:28.080 --> 0:06:30.520 could be further from the truth. I watched him play 0:06:30.600 --> 0:06:34.400 first base eleven straight games, and man, can he play 0:06:34.440 --> 0:06:37.159 that position defensive. He's already won a Gold Glove. He's 0:06:37.160 --> 0:06:40.840 a Goal glob finalist this year. He's also faster than 0:06:40.920 --> 0:06:43.200 most people think he is, because I saw him scoring 0:06:43.279 --> 0:06:46.040 from second on a single. And Jeff, if you think 0:06:46.080 --> 0:06:47.960 you could beat him in a race. 0:06:47.760 --> 0:06:49.880 You've got to be kidding me, because. 0:06:49.960 --> 0:06:54.560 He can run, and he's a very instinctive player. He's 0:06:54.600 --> 0:06:56.919 got a great feel for the game. Of course he 0:06:57.120 --> 0:07:02.159 should because his father is Vlatim Mayor Guerrero senior, who's 0:07:02.200 --> 0:07:05.440 a Hall of Famer. So and the famous throw that 0:07:05.560 --> 0:07:08.760 Addison Barger made from right field to third base to 0:07:08.800 --> 0:07:13.160 cut down Josh Naylor a critical out in Gay four. 0:07:13.680 --> 0:07:16.840 That was Vlaguerreo pointing throw it to throw it to 0:07:16.880 --> 0:07:19.520 third and not throw it to the plate. So he's 0:07:19.520 --> 0:07:22.320 a very instinctive player. He's a really good player. And 0:07:22.880 --> 0:07:27.000 yet I was taken even more by Ernie Clement, the 0:07:27.000 --> 0:07:31.840 second baseman, third baseman, utility infielder, everyday player who was 0:07:32.360 --> 0:07:36.000 didn't hit the homers that Vlaguerrero did, but was almost 0:07:36.160 --> 0:07:38.920 as productive. Talk about a pest at the plate. He 0:07:39.040 --> 0:07:42.600 swings at pitches all the time. We asked him, like, 0:07:42.920 --> 0:07:45.400 where does that come from? You swing it all the time. 0:07:45.440 --> 0:07:47.280 Put the ball in play, and I think we can 0:07:47.320 --> 0:07:50.920 all appreciate this. Jeff, he played coach pitch the first 0:07:51.040 --> 0:07:55.440 year and the rules were you get three pitches, that's it, 0:07:56.000 --> 0:07:58.960 and so you're up there to swing. His dad told him, hey, 0:07:59.040 --> 0:08:01.200 you're only getting three, you got to swing. 0:08:01.240 --> 0:08:01.720 It's something. 0:08:01.880 --> 0:08:05.680 So Ernie Clement went up there hacking away, which I 0:08:05.760 --> 0:08:08.840 just love, and we got to repeat youe Ernie. Ernie 0:08:08.840 --> 0:08:11.560 Clement plays with a glove that he bought on eBay. 0:08:11.640 --> 0:08:14.840 We can't say that enough times because it still just 0:08:15.120 --> 0:08:20.200 absolutely dazzles me that this is where he is and 0:08:20.280 --> 0:08:22.480 he's someday he's going to make a lot of money 0:08:22.520 --> 0:08:25.200 doing playing this game. But more important, he's getting a 0:08:25.200 --> 0:08:27.480 lot of respect. It's a guy who can really hit 0:08:28.040 --> 0:08:29.520 and really play defense. 0:08:31.160 --> 0:08:35.480 Yeah, Dad, I think that clip on social media blew 0:08:35.559 --> 0:08:37.840 up of you talking about him getting the glove off 0:08:37.840 --> 0:08:40.240 of eBay, and a lot of people were saying, hey, 0:08:40.280 --> 0:08:43.360 sometimes players don't want that stiff glove. They want they 0:08:43.400 --> 0:08:45.000 want somebody to do the work for them and have 0:08:45.080 --> 0:08:45.920 it already broken in. 0:08:46.040 --> 0:08:47.280 I love it. That's so great. 0:08:47.360 --> 0:08:49.840 So the Blue Jays go to the World Series for 0:08:49.840 --> 0:08:52.560 the first time since ninety three. They won back to 0:08:52.600 --> 0:08:55.480 back ninety two ninety three, and this is the fourth 0:08:55.520 --> 0:08:59.040 team ever, fourth team ever in a full season to 0:08:59.840 --> 0:09:03.000 win a best of seven series, having lost the first 0:09:03.040 --> 0:09:06.680 two games at home. So congratulations to the Blue Jays 0:09:07.080 --> 0:09:07.720 and they are. 0:09:07.640 --> 0:09:09.640 Off to play the Dodgers. 0:09:09.840 --> 0:09:13.439 It's an exciting time for all these fan bases and 0:09:14.200 --> 0:09:17.880 I'm so looking forward to Friday for a World Series matchup. 0:09:17.920 --> 0:09:21.120 It's going to be just amazing. Well, speaking of the 0:09:21.160 --> 0:09:23.840 World Series matchup, dadd in our takeaways the series, it 0:09:23.880 --> 0:09:26.880 seems to have ended months ago at this point. The 0:09:26.920 --> 0:09:31.720 Dodgers and the Brewers a sweep four games. Incredible pitching. 0:09:31.920 --> 0:09:34.280 I won't take your thunder Dodger stake now. 0:09:34.880 --> 0:09:35.560 I talked to it. 0:09:36.000 --> 0:09:39.160 One of the Dodger guys at the beginning of the playoffs, 0:09:39.320 --> 0:09:41.880 and he said, look, we didn't play very well this year. 0:09:42.200 --> 0:09:45.000 We weren't the best team this year. But he said, 0:09:45.559 --> 0:09:49.040 we have the best run value roster. That's a saber 0:09:49.120 --> 0:09:52.920 metric term, a deep analytics turn, the best run. 0:09:52.840 --> 0:09:55.439 Value roster of all time. 0:09:55.520 --> 0:09:58.720 In the history of baseball. And it's hard to explain that, 0:09:59.200 --> 0:10:02.760 but I listen to him, and since then, they went 0:10:02.880 --> 0:10:05.520 nine to one the Dodgers did in the playoffs. They 0:10:05.559 --> 0:10:08.840 had a two point four or five ERA way lower 0:10:08.880 --> 0:10:13.319 for the starting pitchers, who were virtually unhittable in three 0:10:13.440 --> 0:10:16.920 rounds of the playoffs, the wild Card, the LDS, and 0:10:16.960 --> 0:10:21.199 the LCS. Ninety two innings pitched Jeff in this postseason, 0:10:21.440 --> 0:10:26.160 fifty six hits allowed, that's absurd, thirty eight walks at 0:10:26.200 --> 0:10:29.280 one hundred and four strikeouts. This is some of the 0:10:29.320 --> 0:10:33.080 best starting pitching that we've ever seen. And what they 0:10:33.120 --> 0:10:36.160 did to the Brewers was just unfair. 0:10:36.320 --> 0:10:36.480 Right. 0:10:36.520 --> 0:10:40.360 The Brewers, Jeff, let's understand, had the best record in 0:10:40.440 --> 0:10:44.480 Major League Baseball. They are gritty, they are grinders. They 0:10:44.840 --> 0:10:47.319 ever get bat for them is a fistfight, and they 0:10:47.360 --> 0:10:52.680 got absolutely overwhelmed by the Dodgers pitching specifically, in the 0:10:52.760 --> 0:10:57.320 rotation four games, Jeff, the Brewers scored a total of 0:10:57.440 --> 0:11:01.439 four runs, they got a total of fourteen hits, they 0:11:01.480 --> 0:11:05.439 struck out forty one times in four games, and they 0:11:05.520 --> 0:11:09.319 batted as a team one to eighteen. That's how domb it. 0:11:09.440 --> 0:11:14.480 The only comparable is the nineteen six hitless Wonders the 0:11:14.559 --> 0:11:18.120 Chicago White Sox who played the Cubs in the nineteen 0:11:18.640 --> 0:11:22.800 six World Series, and in their first four games it 0:11:22.880 --> 0:11:26.040 was very similar to what the Brewers went through, but 0:11:26.160 --> 0:11:29.480 miraculously the White Sox came back to win that World 0:11:29.520 --> 0:11:33.040 Series in six games over the crossdown Cubs. The difference 0:11:33.120 --> 0:11:35.880 is the hitless Wonders. Jeff for the season for the 0:11:35.960 --> 0:11:40.800 season batted two thirty and hit seven home runs. Seven 0:11:41.160 --> 0:11:44.640 home runs the whole year. So that explains how they 0:11:44.640 --> 0:11:47.960 could get shut down in the early nineteen hundreds by 0:11:48.000 --> 0:11:51.240 good pitching. You go one hundred and twenty years later, 0:11:51.360 --> 0:11:56.120 it's just remarkable what the Dodgers did to the Brewers. 0:11:56.400 --> 0:11:59.240 And you were watching, Jeff, the team that beat your team, 0:11:59.320 --> 0:12:03.760 the Phillies. I mean, any Philly fan can look at 0:12:03.800 --> 0:12:06.920 this and say, well, we got steamrolled, because they're steamrolling 0:12:07.000 --> 0:12:08.200 Everyone agreed. 0:12:09.240 --> 0:12:14.200 Pitching wins in October. We've heard this a million times, Dad, 0:12:14.440 --> 0:12:16.679 and people are complaining, Oh, well, if the bats aren't, 0:12:16.840 --> 0:12:19.280 it's you got can't think about it. Your team's bats. 0:12:19.320 --> 0:12:22.040 You got to think about it. Your team's inability to 0:12:22.120 --> 0:12:24.520 hit the pitchers. They're two different things, believe it or not. 0:12:24.800 --> 0:12:26.400 And if we've said it one Dad, we said it 0:12:26.440 --> 0:12:29.120 a million times on this podcast. Pitching is as good 0:12:29.160 --> 0:12:30.320 now as it's ever been. 0:12:30.520 --> 0:12:36.160 Well, stuff that we see now is just so unbelievably good. 0:12:36.640 --> 0:12:42.240 And speaking of unbelievable, Jeff, what Shohei Otani did. We're 0:12:42.320 --> 0:12:44.520 like five days late on this, so we're not going 0:12:44.600 --> 0:12:49.120 to belabor this, but I think we have to say 0:12:49.679 --> 0:12:54.800 without hesitation that his three homer game in Game four 0:12:55.600 --> 0:12:59.600 of the LCS was the greatest game ever played by 0:12:59.600 --> 0:13:04.200 a play in the history of the sport, because Jeff, 0:13:04.400 --> 0:13:07.000 three homers in a game has only been done once 0:13:07.320 --> 0:13:11.360 by a pitcher in the modern era. That's nineteen hundred nine. 0:13:11.360 --> 0:13:14.560 Guy Hecker did this in the eighteen hundreds, but nineteen 0:13:14.720 --> 0:13:18.160 forty two, Jim Tobin hit three home runs in one 0:13:18.240 --> 0:13:21.080 game as a pitcher. He almost hit a fourth in 0:13:21.160 --> 0:13:23.840 that game, by the way, and the game before he 0:13:23.920 --> 0:13:26.360 hit a home run as like a pinch hitter, I believe, 0:13:26.640 --> 0:13:30.360 so he almost hit like he almost hit five homers 0:13:30.360 --> 0:13:33.040 in like six at bats. It was some absurd number 0:13:33.360 --> 0:13:36.959 that Jim Tobin did. But of course shohe Otani hit 0:13:37.040 --> 0:13:41.240 three homers and more important, pitched six scoreless innings and 0:13:41.360 --> 0:13:45.840 struck out ten. So you know, immediately you start wondering, 0:13:45.920 --> 0:13:50.120 has there ever been a greater game played? And because 0:13:50.240 --> 0:13:53.760 it's the postseason, Jet, it's not just the postseason. This 0:13:53.920 --> 0:13:58.440 was a pennant clinching game. Granted it was three to one, 0:13:58.559 --> 0:14:01.520 it wasn't a game to nothing at the time, it 0:14:01.559 --> 0:14:06.239 wasn't a game seven, But my goodness, three homers, six scoreless, 0:14:06.480 --> 0:14:10.240 ten strikeouts. You agree, it's almost, by definition, has to 0:14:10.280 --> 0:14:12.960 be the greatest game ever played by anyone. 0:14:14.720 --> 0:14:15.000 Dad. 0:14:15.240 --> 0:14:17.440 You know how many text messages I got during that 0:14:17.520 --> 0:14:21.800 game saying, are you and your dad just exploding right now? 0:14:21.800 --> 0:14:26.000 Including our friend John Gay. He he could not believe 0:14:26.040 --> 0:14:28.120 what he was watching. And you know what I was 0:14:28.120 --> 0:14:33.160 seeing that people were creating Mount Rushmore of sports. Right, 0:14:33.200 --> 0:14:37.240 You've got Gretzky, You've got Brady, You've got Jordan, and 0:14:37.240 --> 0:14:40.800 then you've got show Hey, Is that correct? 0:14:41.080 --> 0:14:44.840 Well again, Jeff, I'm I'm in a slightly different camp here. 0:14:44.920 --> 0:14:48.040 I'm an old man and I grew up the stories 0:14:48.080 --> 0:14:48.760 of Babe Ruth. 0:14:48.880 --> 0:14:52.080 So I'm still not ready to put show Hay over 0:14:52.240 --> 0:14:55.040 Babe Ruth because Babe Ruth did it for twenty years. 0:14:55.440 --> 0:14:58.520 It was a great pitcher. But what show Hay's doing, 0:14:58.560 --> 0:15:01.600 He's the most remarkable player ever. He soon will be 0:15:01.640 --> 0:15:03.840 the greatest player ever. So I'm not going to get 0:15:03.920 --> 0:15:06.240 into this debate because then I become a bitter, old, 0:15:06.320 --> 0:15:09.720 cynical old man. I'm just saying, we've never seen anybody 0:15:10.200 --> 0:15:13.760 like him, and we will never see anybody like him 0:15:14.000 --> 0:15:17.440 again ever. So I got asked, is this the greatest 0:15:17.480 --> 0:15:21.240 game ever played? Well, again, it's debatable, I guess. 0:15:21.280 --> 0:15:21.480 I mean. 0:15:21.560 --> 0:15:24.280 Rick Wise in nineteen seventy one pitched a no hitter 0:15:24.320 --> 0:15:26.840 and hit two homers in a no hitter. 0:15:27.120 --> 0:15:28.440 That's pretty hard to do. 0:15:28.880 --> 0:15:32.160 Tony Klanger in nineteen sixty six pitched a complete game, 0:15:32.240 --> 0:15:35.360 gave up three runs, but he hit two Grand Slams 0:15:35.600 --> 0:15:38.600 and drove in nine runs in one game. That's pretty 0:15:38.600 --> 0:15:41.800 hard to do. But to repeat this was done on 0:15:41.880 --> 0:15:46.800 the highest level. The NLCS against a great Brewer team, 0:15:46.960 --> 0:15:50.680 facing pitching that people have never seen before, and he 0:15:50.800 --> 0:15:53.680 hit three homers, one of the longest home runs I've 0:15:53.720 --> 0:15:56.400 ever seen in my life. So I don't think there's 0:15:56.440 --> 0:16:00.800 any way around this show. Hey is he's the greatest 0:16:00.840 --> 0:16:04.480 player I've ever seen. But in baseball history, you still 0:16:04.560 --> 0:16:07.920 have to include Babe Ruth in this equation because of 0:16:07.960 --> 0:16:09.400 the longevity for which he. 0:16:09.360 --> 0:16:13.000 Played, no doubt, Dad, And I was funny on Twitter. 0:16:13.120 --> 0:16:16.640 I saw somebody, right, I don't like baseball. Maybe they're 0:16:16.680 --> 0:16:20.200 just being funny or silly, describe this to me in 0:16:20.280 --> 0:16:24.720 golf terms. And so somebody wrote back and said, shooting 0:16:24.840 --> 0:16:29.400 sixty three at the Masters and the final Sunday twelve 0:16:29.400 --> 0:16:34.680 holes right handed, six holes left handed, because I mean, 0:16:34.720 --> 0:16:39.480 there's no offense defense, you know there. So the comparison 0:16:39.520 --> 0:16:44.000 obviously doesn't make any sense. But in reality, basically they're 0:16:44.000 --> 0:16:47.280 saying he's the best left handed and right handed golfer 0:16:47.480 --> 0:16:48.400 in the game right. 0:16:48.280 --> 0:16:50.960 Now, right, It's pretty amazing. You know. 0:16:51.000 --> 0:16:53.240 I told you that Jim Cott Hall of Fame baseball 0:16:53.240 --> 0:16:56.640 player shot his age. He shot like seventy eight at 0:16:56.680 --> 0:16:59.800 age eighty twice in a week, once playing left handed 0:17:00.320 --> 0:17:03.840 and one's playing right handed. I find that just astonishing. 0:17:04.320 --> 0:17:07.280 But I've never thought of the golf comparison, but it 0:17:07.320 --> 0:17:10.320 would be it's almost like the best of It's like 0:17:10.400 --> 0:17:14.800 Phil Mickison and Tiger Woods like alternating shots and they 0:17:14.880 --> 0:17:17.400 end up shooting like a fifty nine together. I mean, 0:17:17.440 --> 0:17:19.840 that's what it would be like on the golf. 0:17:20.000 --> 0:17:20.280 I don't know. 0:17:20.400 --> 0:17:23.400 I don't know golf well enough, but that was absurd 0:17:23.440 --> 0:17:24.240 what sho Hey did. 0:17:24.240 --> 0:17:26.320 And you should have seen the players. 0:17:25.920 --> 0:17:28.320 That I talked to on the Blue Jays, Kevin Gossman 0:17:28.480 --> 0:17:31.679 and Ernie Clement, and asked them about show Hay, and 0:17:31.720 --> 0:17:35.520 they just shake their head like he doesn't even count, 0:17:35.640 --> 0:17:38.640 Like it's it's not even fair. It's like it's too 0:17:38.720 --> 0:17:42.280 ridiculous to even be true. That's the kind of respect. 0:17:42.280 --> 0:17:45.359 That's how revered show Hay is wherever he goes in 0:17:45.440 --> 0:17:46.040 the big leagues. 0:17:46.080 --> 0:17:47.200 It's just astonishing. 0:17:48.960 --> 0:17:51.199 All right, Dad, Well, coming up next here on is 0:17:51.280 --> 0:17:52.879 this a great game? Or what? We'll jump into the 0:17:52.880 --> 0:17:55.600 court gins on this state in baseball history, and maybe 0:17:55.640 --> 0:18:04.560 a couple team Tims coming up next. Welcome back to 0:18:04.720 --> 0:18:05.440 is this a great game? 0:18:05.520 --> 0:18:05.719 Or what? 0:18:05.800 --> 0:18:06.040 Dad? 0:18:06.040 --> 0:18:07.680 What court gens do you have? 0:18:07.920 --> 0:18:09.480 Throughout the l I. 0:18:09.440 --> 0:18:12.120 Got a lot of a mail on this one. Show Hey, 0:18:12.160 --> 0:18:16.000 of course hit a first inning home run as a pitcher. 0:18:16.320 --> 0:18:18.560 Can I just think about that for a second. 0:18:18.600 --> 0:18:21.480 Since the picture when he used to bat, we don't 0:18:21.520 --> 0:18:25.080 bat pictures anymore except for Show Hey, but always hit ninth. 0:18:25.160 --> 0:18:27.960 So it's the second time in the history of the 0:18:28.000 --> 0:18:32.440 postseason that a pitcher has hit a first inning home run. 0:18:32.800 --> 0:18:36.800 Lou Burdett did so in the nineteen fifty eight World 0:18:36.880 --> 0:18:40.679 Series for the Milwaukee Braves. Was and show Hey has 0:18:40.760 --> 0:18:43.920 hit a home run as a pitcher in the first inning, 0:18:44.200 --> 0:18:47.920 six at different times, and people were wondering, has anyone, ever, 0:18:48.960 --> 0:18:51.879 how many pitchers have ever hit one in the first inning. 0:18:52.000 --> 0:18:54.800 You know, you gotta bat around in order for the 0:18:54.800 --> 0:18:57.040 picture to hit a home run. So I remember, I 0:18:57.080 --> 0:19:00.400 remember Randy Lurch did hit one in nineteen seven nine 0:19:00.440 --> 0:19:02.159 for the Phillies. But then I called Frank from the 0:19:02.160 --> 0:19:04.960 Alias to get the full list, and he they were 0:19:05.000 --> 0:19:05.760 like a. 0:19:05.760 --> 0:19:06.960 Lot, a lot of them. 0:19:06.960 --> 0:19:10.280 But since two thousand, Carlos Lombrano did it once and 0:19:10.440 --> 0:19:12.919 Robert Person did it in two thousand and two, so 0:19:13.040 --> 0:19:16.800 it's still rather odd, but it has been done. It 0:19:16.960 --> 0:19:20.160 just doesn't sound right, Jeff, the pitcher hit a home 0:19:20.240 --> 0:19:23.159 run in the first inning, but when it's showhy, it's 0:19:23.480 --> 0:19:25.240 completely understandable. 0:19:25.280 --> 0:19:29.800 And of course he did it as a leadoff hitter. Yeah. 0:19:29.920 --> 0:19:33.680 And then Julio Rodriguez really stuck out to me as 0:19:33.720 --> 0:19:36.159 such way. He's a great kid. Everybody knows that. But 0:19:36.800 --> 0:19:40.160 I met someone who works with him with Adidas, and 0:19:40.440 --> 0:19:45.800 he has sixteen pair of baseball spikes in his locker, 0:19:45.920 --> 0:19:48.720 all of them different styles and colors. 0:19:48.760 --> 0:19:49.320 Sixteen. 0:19:49.400 --> 0:19:54.520 Jeff, I don't think you have sixteen pairs of shoes, greed, No, not. 0:19:54.480 --> 0:19:56.120 Even I don't even think I have half that, right. 0:19:56.160 --> 0:19:58.600 He's got sixteen pairs of spikes. 0:19:58.160 --> 0:20:00.359 That he wears, and in one of the games in 0:20:00.400 --> 0:20:03.800 the LCS he wore he changed his spikes halfway through 0:20:03.800 --> 0:20:06.720 the game, and he changed his glove halfway through the game. 0:20:06.800 --> 0:20:09.560 I'm not sure I've seen too much of that, where 0:20:09.560 --> 0:20:13.320 a guy changes his shoes and his glove during a 0:20:13.359 --> 0:20:16.760 baseball game. Another guy that really stuck out for me 0:20:16.880 --> 0:20:21.000 is Andres Jimenez of the of the Blue Jays, who 0:20:21.560 --> 0:20:24.359 I believe, I hope I don't exaggerate here is the 0:20:24.400 --> 0:20:29.159 greatest defensive player at any position in the major leagues 0:20:29.400 --> 0:20:33.680 right now. The way he has become a great defensive 0:20:33.680 --> 0:20:37.399 shortstop when he was the best defensive second baseman in 0:20:37.480 --> 0:20:41.080 the game is just amazing to me. And he hit 0:20:41.280 --> 0:20:45.240 nineteen He started nineteen games this year Jeff as a 0:20:45.280 --> 0:20:49.359 cleanup hitter and thirty four games, including a bunch of 0:20:49.400 --> 0:20:52.119 the playoffs as the nine hitter. Does that strike you 0:20:52.160 --> 0:20:53.880 as odd? You hit fourth? 0:20:54.040 --> 0:20:55.720 Odd placement? For sure, you. 0:20:55.720 --> 0:20:57.160 Hit fourth and you hit ninth. 0:20:57.200 --> 0:21:00.560 So I asked Frank and Frank our brother John seven, 0:21:00.640 --> 0:21:04.440 it's one of seven players ever to have fifteen games 0:21:05.400 --> 0:21:08.320 in the cleanup, start fifteen games in the cleanup spot, 0:21:08.520 --> 0:21:11.800 and start fifteen games in the number nine spot. And 0:21:11.840 --> 0:21:16.600 he was tremendously productive out of the number nine spot 0:21:16.920 --> 0:21:19.800 for the Blue Jays. And that's kind of the secret 0:21:19.840 --> 0:21:23.880 of their team is just how they got production from 0:21:23.880 --> 0:21:25.720 one through nine in that order. 0:21:25.800 --> 0:21:27.280 So those are the quirk Jins. 0:21:29.240 --> 0:21:32.320 Excellent, well done, Dad. What about on this state in 0:21:32.359 --> 0:21:35.280 baseball history? October the twenty. 0:21:35.080 --> 0:21:36.200 First, Well on this state? 0:21:36.280 --> 0:21:40.160 Carlton Fisk hit his famous stay fair, stay fair home 0:21:40.240 --> 0:21:43.439 run Game six of the seventy five World Series against 0:21:43.440 --> 0:21:47.360 the Reds twelfth inning, off of Pat Darcy. Let's see 0:21:47.400 --> 0:21:51.200 if you can remember Jeff. The movie that references more 0:21:51.240 --> 0:21:56.160 than has a great reference to Carlton Fisk's home run, 0:21:56.240 --> 0:21:57.080 famous home run. 0:21:59.400 --> 0:22:03.919 I mean, is it's not feeling dreams? It's not the 0:22:04.040 --> 0:22:08.240