1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:01,600 Speaker 1: The Michael Berry Show. 2 00:00:01,720 --> 00:00:05,640 Speaker 2: Okay, you asked me about the influence that people had 3 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:08,680 Speaker 2: on my career. One thing I can relate to is 4 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:13,480 Speaker 2: Roy Orbison because back in nineteen sixty four, I'm riding 5 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:15,160 Speaker 2: down the road one day listening to Paul ber lynn 6 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:21,120 Speaker 2: on and he played Roy Orbison version of Lonely Wine 7 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:23,520 Speaker 2: and it was on an album, and I went and 8 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:25,040 Speaker 2: because I fell in love with a song, and I 9 00:00:25,079 --> 00:00:28,200 Speaker 2: went and recorded it. I took Paul the single and 10 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 2: I always thought, if I could ever get Paul Burlin 11 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 2: to play a song by Mickey Gilly, that's going to 12 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:35,199 Speaker 2: be successful. And sure enough, the record took off and 13 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:37,839 Speaker 2: started to sell. And I stayed in this one club 14 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:39,760 Speaker 2: with is It Wrong? And Lonely Wine that I had 15 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:41,880 Speaker 2: recorded with Kenny on the base on is It Wrong 16 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 2: and Lonely Wine that I recorded Jones Sounds Recording Studio 17 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:48,960 Speaker 2: in the Heights. Those two songs kept me working at 18 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 2: the Nest Dell Club on Spencer Highway for ten years now. 19 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:54,800 Speaker 3: Is that where he brought Elvis the one time? Because 20 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:56,560 Speaker 3: Paul ber Lynne told me a story about him bringing 21 00:00:56,600 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 3: Elvis to some club off of Spencer Highway. 22 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 2: You know, I don't know if I don't remember Elvis 23 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 2: ever been on Spencer, but I do know he came 24 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 2: to Houston at one time, but I was I didn't 25 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:09,760 Speaker 2: get I never got a chance to meet him. Although 26 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:12,560 Speaker 2: I didn't meet, I didn't beat him in the pictures 27 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:13,319 Speaker 2: I had. 28 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 3: I had Paul Berln on my show on and we 29 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:19,560 Speaker 3: had so much fun just going through the memories and 30 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 3: people would call in and tell stories of when they'd 31 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:24,840 Speaker 3: met him in their high school reunion he'd played, or 32 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:27,120 Speaker 3: whatever else. And I had Roy Head call in. He 33 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 3: was on tour in Illinois, and Roy Head called in, 34 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:32,280 Speaker 3: Johnny Nash called in. But Paul Berlin, what a legend 35 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 3: in Houston radio. Is still on the radio today. 36 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:37,959 Speaker 2: Well, he's had a big influence on my career because 37 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:39,560 Speaker 2: I always thought that if I could get him to 38 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 2: play one of my recordings. I remember when he played 39 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 2: Jerry Lee's Crazy Arms when I first took him seventy 40 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 2: eight RPM, and I always said, you know, Paul Berlin 41 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 2: would play one of my recordings, I'm gonna be successful 42 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 2: in the industry because he was such a fabulous DJ 43 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 2: in the Houston area. 44 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 3: Do you listen to a lot of music now Mickey Gillis. 45 00:01:56,880 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 2: I used to listen to quite a bit, but uh, 46 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 2: you know, I i'd really pay attention more of what 47 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 2: I'm doing in my career more anything else. What's left 48 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 2: of it. That is, being seventy six years old, I 49 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:08,079 Speaker 2: don't have a lot of you know, major time left 50 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 2: in my life. But I'm having a great time in 51 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:12,399 Speaker 2: doing what I'm doing. I'm trying to keep my name 52 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 2: out there, you know, with the Gillies in Vegas at 53 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:16,919 Speaker 2: the Treasure Island, the one in Dallas with my name 54 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:21,400 Speaker 2: on it we just opened, and Gillies up and Chalktaw 55 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:24,840 Speaker 2: Nations and Durant, Oklahoma, and uh, I'm just trying to 56 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 2: keep the logo out there and keep the things going 57 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 2: with you. 58 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:30,520 Speaker 3: And you're still performing ten months out of the year, 59 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 3: three nights a week, and. 60 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 2: I'm doing some road dates and I'm working three days 61 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 2: a week during the summer months there in my theater Sunday, 62 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:38,119 Speaker 2: Monday and Tuesday night. And i have six working six 63 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 2: nights a week in my theater and every night and 64 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:42,919 Speaker 2: I'll go over to the restaurant Saint karaoke with people. 65 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 1: Really I'm a glutten. 66 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:47,399 Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, They must enjoyed that nobody would left 67 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:49,120 Speaker 3: to photograph all that, because, believe it. 68 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:51,360 Speaker 2: I'm a glutton for punishment when it comes to music. 69 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 2: I enjoyed the camaraderie with the audience to have a 70 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 2: great time with the people. You got time for a 71 00:02:56,680 --> 00:02:59,519 Speaker 2: quick story. 72 00:02:58,360 --> 00:02:59,919 Speaker 3: Making Gillies in the studio, I got town for. 73 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 1: I had a lady come through the You get a kick 74 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 1: out of this. 75 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:04,360 Speaker 2: This lady comes through the autograph line the other other 76 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 2: day and she sits down beside me, and she has 77 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 2: an autograph and I signed it for and I took 78 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:12,240 Speaker 2: a picture with her. And I'm, you know, very cordial 79 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:14,239 Speaker 2: with all the fans that come through, you know, And 80 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 2: I'm chatting with. 81 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:16,239 Speaker 1: Her a little bit, trying to chat with everybody. 82 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:17,799 Speaker 2: And she looked at me. She says, I bet I'm 83 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:19,920 Speaker 2: older than you are. And I said, well, maybe, ma'am 84 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 2: you might be. How old are and she said, I'm 85 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 2: eighty five years old. I said, wow, yeah, you got 86 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:27,080 Speaker 2: me just a few years, not much, but a few. 87 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 2: I said, you're looking good to be eighty five. What 88 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:31,359 Speaker 2: are you doing tonight, honey? And she said the same thing. 89 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:32,240 Speaker 2: You're doing nothing. 90 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 1: Oh I like it. Some of the best material for 91 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 1: people come through the autograph line. 92 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 3: It must be such a thrill to see people because 93 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 3: of your career and because it's what it's meant to people. 94 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 3: You know, I think there are people and not not 95 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:49,880 Speaker 3: to criticize anyone else who did a song and moved 96 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 3: on down the road, but for you, it was so 97 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 3: intimate to so many people's lives. 98 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 2: The camaraderie I have with the fans is very rewarding 99 00:03:56,400 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 2: to me too, you know. 100 00:03:57,120 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 1: I mean, I get up and take pictures. 101 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 2: People come through the autograph and I'll stand up, and 102 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 2: as bad as my legs are and I can't stand 103 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 2: up for a long period of time right now, but 104 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 2: I get up out of the chair and I take 105 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 2: pictures with him and I try to look, you know, 106 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 2: like you know, I want to be when I was 107 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 2: thirty eight years old. 108 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:16,800 Speaker 1: I'm not that old. Double it. I'm doubled that. 109 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 2: But I'm I'm doing a show for Lucas All at 110 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:22,920 Speaker 2: my restaurant and Branson, And like I said, I'm a 111 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:25,479 Speaker 2: glad to punishing when it comes to work. I'm a workaholic. Actually, 112 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:31,480 Speaker 2: we're doing Lucas All. People ordered thirteen shows for my restaurant, 113 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 2: that I'm doing. I made him a pilot show and 114 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 2: they liked it. I'm trying to trying to go back 115 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:37,679 Speaker 2: and revisit Gilly's place. 116 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:42,039 Speaker 3: When you look at what the music industry has become today, 117 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 3: better or worse the same, what do you what do 118 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:45,720 Speaker 3: you see out there? 119 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 1: Well? Some of the acts that I really really get 120 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 1: a kick out of. 121 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:51,599 Speaker 2: I mean I really like Toby Keith, I like George Straight, 122 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 2: I like Garth Brooks. Of course, Garth is sort of 123 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:57,160 Speaker 2: semi retired now. I don't think he's doing very much anymore. 124 00:04:57,760 --> 00:04:59,920 Speaker 2: But some of the acts have come along that's really good, 125 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 2: a lot of credibility. I look back at what's happening 126 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:06,479 Speaker 2: with me and Johnny Lee when we first started, you know, 127 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:09,279 Speaker 2: and back when John Travolta first did the film The 128 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 2: Urban Cowboy, and it launched me and him in the 129 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:13,599 Speaker 2: stratusphere all of a sudden, and I, of course I 130 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:15,599 Speaker 2: traveled with Conwin Loretta for quite. 131 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:16,039 Speaker 3: A few years. 132 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 1: I've had a very good career. 133 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 2: I mean, I cannot complain, like I said before, if 134 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:24,600 Speaker 2: it ended tomorrow, it's been a great ride. 135 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:27,039 Speaker 3: Is there a song that when you hear it just 136 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:29,039 Speaker 3: always puts you in a good mood that somebody else 137 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 3: is that you wish you'd covered over the years. 138 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 2: Well, George Strait covered a song that went number one 139 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:35,840 Speaker 2: for him that I got and we just did a 140 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 2: little comedy skit on it in my theater. You Look 141 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 2: So Good in Love I had recorded, and then George 142 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:42,040 Speaker 2: Strait comes and records it and it becomes number one 143 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 2: song for him, and I said, he needs another number 144 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 2: one song, like I need another accident. 145 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 1: You know what does he have fifty five of? 146 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's got the record of all all the number 147 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:54,280 Speaker 2: one songs he's recorded in his career. But seventeen is 148 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 2: not too bad. You know, I'm not gonna I'm not 149 00:05:56,600 --> 00:05:58,720 Speaker 2: gonna take a back seat to anybody. I've had seventeen 150 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:02,719 Speaker 2: number one records and the country charts, and I'm pleased 151 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:02,919 Speaker 2: with that. 152 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 1: JD. 153 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:06,599 Speaker 3: You've written this book Unconquered, and I noticed one of 154 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:10,720 Speaker 3: the things that you weave in between Jimmy Swaggert and 155 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 3: Jerry Lee Lewis and Mickey Gilly in their lives is 156 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 3: rock and roll, country music and evangelical Christianity. I thought 157 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 3: that was an interesting mix of how these guys went 158 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:22,040 Speaker 3: their different directions. But as Mickey just said, coming from 159 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:23,799 Speaker 3: the same literally the same place. 160 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:26,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I grew up in this Assembly of 161 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:28,679 Speaker 4: God Pentecostal world at these street boys, that has changed 162 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 4: a lot, you know by the time I had come 163 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 4: along and was going through it. But and a lot 164 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 4: of readers may or may not like to hear this, 165 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:38,480 Speaker 4: but there's a tremendous amount of similarity between an Assembly 166 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 4: of God or a Pentecostal song service and a rock 167 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 4: and roll concert. The message is different, but the upbeat movement, 168 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 4: the lively music and worship. It was the genesis of 169 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 4: some of these guys that were the forebears of rock 170 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:56,280 Speaker 4: and roll, Elvis Presley, Jerry Lee Lewis. These guys grew 171 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 4: up in the Semily God Church and that's where they 172 00:06:57,960 --> 00:06:58,559 Speaker 4: learned music. 173 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:00,240 Speaker 1: Well, you know when they try to. 174 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:03,719 Speaker 2: When Julie went to the Bible School and watching Hounsh 175 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 2: you know, he took my Guide is Real and put 176 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 2: a beat to it and they didn't like that. 177 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 1: That's exactly right. 178 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 4: And we talked about that in the book. 179 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 3: Simbly of God that don't allow any music, I know, 180 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 3: Church of Christ. 181 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 4: Now it's Church of Christ that don't allow musical instruments, 182 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 4: they allow music. It's similarly God at every piece of 183 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 4: uh instrument. 184 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 1: Yeah. 185 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 2: And when I when I recorded all fly away, you know, 186 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 2: I give a demonstration in my show when I'm doing 187 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:29,560 Speaker 2: my show there, I'm doing my life story in music 188 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 2: at in my theater, and I do the little thing 189 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 2: on the I'll fly away where it's a lot of 190 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 2: cut time beach, you know, some glad morning when this 191 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 2: lap is over, fly away, and then I hit that 192 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:44,760 Speaker 2: boogy beat you and it's got that rocking beach, you know, 193 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 2: some glad morning when this lap is, oh, I'll fly away, 194 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 2: you know. And and when I recorded it, my mom said, son, 195 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 2: we never did. 196 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 1: Like that church. 197 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 4: You know. 198 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 3: I was raised Southern Baptist, and I remember the first 199 00:07:58,040 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 3: time I came to Houston, and you go to a 200 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 3: church and they get up and get the happy feet 201 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 3: and go to running, and they had drums, and I 202 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 3: don't know why, but you know, we'd kind of been 203 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 3: taught God don't want you. 204 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 1: Doing all that shitting, don't exactly yeah. 205 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 3: The tongues and everything else, and you're thinking, I'm not 206 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 3: sure God's for that, and you figured, hey, you know what, 207 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 3: they're just worshiping in their own way. 208 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 1: Well, I told my mom one time. 209 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 2: She was she was real into these the people that 210 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 2: pray for people, that divine healing thing. And I told 211 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 2: my mom one time, I said, Mom, let me tell 212 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 2: you what if if something happens to me and I'm 213 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:28,840 Speaker 2: on my death bed, I would appreciate you praying for 214 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:30,960 Speaker 2: me a lot more than what he's praying for these people, 215 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:32,840 Speaker 2: because I got more comfortas than you've praying for me 216 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 2: than him. 217 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:36,839 Speaker 3: That is so true. 218 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:39,280 Speaker 4: I was talking real quickly. I was talking to a 219 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 4: George Klein, who was a close friend of Elvis, and 220 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:44,840 Speaker 4: I was talking to him about the famous picture that 221 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 4: you've seen with a million dollar quartet Jerry Lewis, Elvis Presley, 222 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 4: Carl Perkins, Johnny Cash and George was talking to Jerry 223 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 4: about the fact that in the tapes of that you 224 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 4: hear mainly Elvis and Jerry, and Jerry said, that's no mistake. 225 00:08:59,840 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 4: Those boys were Baptist boys, and only Elvis and I 226 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 4: knew all the lyrics. Right. 227 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:06,360 Speaker 3: You know, you think about that quartet that Sun Records 228 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 3: had and what a moment in time to have those 229 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:11,720 Speaker 3: four guys, and it just amazing. 230 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:14,080 Speaker 2: When I never met I met all of them except Elvis. 231 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 2: But I did meet Elvis in pictures. If you don't 232 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 2: believe it, I got a picture I can show you. Yeah, 233 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 2: you want to break that picture out and show Michael. 234 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 3: You've got a picture with you and Elvis. 235 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 2: I got a picture that I think you get a 236 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:25,680 Speaker 2: kick out of. In fact, i'll leave you a copy 237 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 2: of that. 238 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:26,320 Speaker 1: You'd like it. 239 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:28,199 Speaker 3: I would love it. While he's pulling that out. 240 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 2: We call it instead of the million dollar quartet, it's 241 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:32,720 Speaker 2: a two million dollar quintet. 242 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 3: There you go, there you go. It's well, you can 243 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:38,080 Speaker 3: hear their influence in your music. Oh yeah, we're gonna 244 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:38,600 Speaker 3: have to post this. 245 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:41,960 Speaker 1: I met him in pictures. 246 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 3: Very nice. You know. One of the things I enjoy 247 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:49,600 Speaker 3: watching They'll show on these shows Elvis after a long 248 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:51,680 Speaker 3: concert and he would go in the back and they 249 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:54,560 Speaker 3: would stay up all night performing gospel music. And how 250 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 3: much they enjoyed that. When you just sing for your 251 00:09:57,080 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 3: own enjoyment, what kind of tunes do you? 252 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:00,240 Speaker 4: Well? 253 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:04,400 Speaker 2: Usually, if i'm performing, I'm listening to something. Maybe I'm 254 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 2: thinking about trying to record again. You know, one of 255 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 2: my favorite songs that I heard Elton John do Sorry 256 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:13,840 Speaker 2: seems to be the hardest word. And I heard him 257 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 2: do that in the concert, and I said, Man, what 258 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:16,720 Speaker 2: a great country song that could be. 259 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 1: And so I made it run at it and. 260 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:21,560 Speaker 2: We made a pretty good demo on it, and I 261 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:25,080 Speaker 2: was getting ready to record it, and the gentleman that 262 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 2: I had contacted to help me with the recording passed 263 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:31,839 Speaker 2: away before I could get it done. But I'm still 264 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:34,000 Speaker 2: hadn't given up on that song, beautiful. So that's a 265 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:37,680 Speaker 2: great song. Beautiful songs makes such a great country music song. 266 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 3: You know, I agree? Will you made stand by Me 267 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 3: into a country music song? 268 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 2: Well, my producer, my producer picked that song for me 269 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:48,720 Speaker 2: to do and rearranged it, and it turned out to 270 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 2: be quite an arrangement he put together on that, Jim 271 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:54,319 Speaker 2: Ed Norman's wonted arrange it. He worked with Anne Murray 272 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 2: for quite some time too, and he was part of 273 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 2: the Eagles group. You know, I think he did arrangement 274 00:10:59,520 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 2: for the Eagles. 275 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:03,840 Speaker 3: You've you've chosen Houston as your home, Pasadena as your 276 00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 3: home for most of these years. Why did you never 277 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:07,480 Speaker 3: why'd you never move? 278 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:11,440 Speaker 2: I've lived here since the early fifties. I think I 279 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 2: came here in like fifty one to fifty two and 280 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:16,560 Speaker 2: I've been here ever since. I like the town, I 281 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:22,560 Speaker 2: like the people. I've just enjoyed the southern style of living. 282 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:24,400 Speaker 3: Was there pressure to move to Nashville? 283 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:26,440 Speaker 2: Well, when when room full of roses he had, everybody 284 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 2: asked me if I was coming to Nashville. And I 285 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:30,559 Speaker 2: think that's one reason why maybe the Country Music Association 286 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:33,680 Speaker 2: never really recognized me in the field of music because 287 00:11:33,679 --> 00:11:35,600 Speaker 2: of Gillies and the way it was presented to them. 288 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 2: I don't know if they'll ever induct me into the 289 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:40,680 Speaker 2: Hall of Fame, although they inducted me into the Texas 290 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:43,240 Speaker 2: Country Music Hall of Fame and the Louisiana Hall of Fame, 291 00:11:43,280 --> 00:11:44,440 Speaker 2: the Colorado Hall of Fame. 292 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:46,079 Speaker 1: Did you see me on American Pickers? 293 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:48,480 Speaker 3: I did twenty eleven edition Live Live. 294 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:52,200 Speaker 1: Long enough to make the History Channel. Well, you know 295 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:52,719 Speaker 1: all that. 296 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:56,680 Speaker 3: Old Gillies memorabiliya. It's funny, what a neat thing that hold. 297 00:11:57,559 --> 00:12:00,280 Speaker 2: I gotta tell you a quick story when I I 298 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:02,679 Speaker 2: got a call from a guy in Saint Louis and 299 00:12:02,679 --> 00:12:05,120 Speaker 2: he said, uh, Gilly, he sold that beer signed a 300 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 2: little cheap, then you so well? 301 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:08,319 Speaker 1: I got six hundred dollars start, he said. I to 302 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 1: give a thousand. I said, I can manufacture some more. 303 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 3: I got an email, Hey, Michael, you have from Ralph Robbins. 304 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:16,959 Speaker 3: Do you ever wonder what happened to the original Gilly sign. Well, 305 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 3: it's in the parking lot of our favorite restaurant two Cities, 306 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 3: Grill and Cantina. There's a yellow dant lying down the 307 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:24,079 Speaker 3: middle of the restaurant, half in passing in a half 308 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 3: in Deer Park, and they have tucked away they have 309 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:28,599 Speaker 3: that that famous sign and we all love to see it. 310 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:29,480 Speaker 3: And I don't know if that's true. 311 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 2: Maybe well, I don't know. I don't know where he'sa at. 312 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:32,440 Speaker 2: I'd have to go back and take a look. Is 313 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 2: it in Deer Park or passing in? 314 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:37,200 Speaker 3: Well, they say it's halfway in Deer Park, halfway in Spencer. 315 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 3: It's it's tucked away behind a chase bank at the 316 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:41,440 Speaker 3: corner of Spencer Highway and Red Bluff. 317 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:45,199 Speaker 2: Okay, there's a there's a sign there that the old 318 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 2: Gilly sign. Uh that was that sat out front and 319 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:51,679 Speaker 2: Jim Atkins on the property at that time, and he 320 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:53,360 Speaker 2: asked if he could have that sign out front. He 321 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:55,680 Speaker 2: kind of got it and moved it and Heady where 322 00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:57,560 Speaker 2: it would light up, and I think maybe it got 323 00:12:57,679 --> 00:13:00,840 Speaker 2: damage in some weather. But uh, I know a big 324 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:02,880 Speaker 2: sign out there with the era is still up there. 325 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:06,079 Speaker 3: Of the people who wrote songs for you and wrote 326 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:09,320 Speaker 3: songs for your contemporaries, who was the fine Who is 327 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:10,920 Speaker 3: a songwriter you'd admire the most? 328 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:14,680 Speaker 2: Well, my two favorite writers back when I was trying 329 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:17,080 Speaker 2: to get started in the music industry, of course, with 330 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 2: room full of roses hitting was Bill Rice and Jerry Foster, 331 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 2: and they wrote a lot of great songs for a 332 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:25,720 Speaker 2: lot of different people. They wrote She's Pulling Me Back Again, 333 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:31,319 Speaker 2: Here Comes the Hurt, and don't the Girls Get Pretty Close? 334 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:33,360 Speaker 2: The Time was written by a guy in California by 335 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 2: the name of Baker Knight, and my producer found that 336 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:39,200 Speaker 2: song and I listened to it and I said, wow, man, 337 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:40,640 Speaker 2: what a great idea. 338 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:40,959 Speaker 1: For a song. 339 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:44,040 Speaker 2: And I didn't want to do it at first, but 340 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:45,960 Speaker 2: he didn't convinced me if I used that boogie beat 341 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 2: to it that I could I could perform the song, 342 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:50,720 Speaker 2: and sure enough I did. I'm really surprised that some 343 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:52,520 Speaker 2: rock group has not recorded that song. 344 00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:54,960 Speaker 3: I'm surprised because it's such a great tune and It's 345 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 3: got such a funny message, but in a fun message, 346 00:13:58,200 --> 00:13:58,600 Speaker 3: and it's. 347 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:00,199 Speaker 2: Such a true story when you think about it. I 348 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:02,439 Speaker 2: refer to it as the national anthem of hanky talk 349 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:02,960 Speaker 2: in the world. 350 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:06,240 Speaker 3: It is sadly a true story. 351 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:09,320 Speaker 2: Jamie Well, I got to say one other think you'd 352 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:11,280 Speaker 2: be surprised how many women asked me to do that song. 353 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:12,920 Speaker 2: And I finally figured out that the guy is starting 354 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:14,200 Speaker 2: to look better than me cross Town. 355 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:17,559 Speaker 3: I think we figured out what causes all that, right, 356 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:18,360 Speaker 3: it's the alcohol. 357 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:19,160 Speaker 1: JD. 358 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:21,840 Speaker 3: Davis. The book is called Unconquered. We can get it 359 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:23,760 Speaker 3: pretty much anywhere, and we've put a link by the 360 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:26,480 Speaker 3: way on our website at Michael Berry dot iHeart dot 361 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 3: com and get a copy of the book about the 362 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 3: Great Mickey Gilly and his cousins Jimmy Swagger and Jerry 363 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:34,120 Speaker 3: Lee Lewis. Very good stuff, very much. 364 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:36,240 Speaker 2: Just hope that they do a film before I passed 365 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 2: to the other side of the world. Oh my, I'd 366 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:40,160 Speaker 2: like to see that, you know. See, I try to 367 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:42,440 Speaker 2: make it as authentic as they possibly can, and that's 368 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 2: the main thing, the reason why I wanted to do 369 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:45,240 Speaker 2: the interviews with JD. 370 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:45,880 Speaker 1: Davis. 371 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:48,360 Speaker 3: You know, I don't know how much we talked about 372 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 3: this off air, and I don't know how much you 373 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:50,920 Speaker 3: want to talk about this. I'll ask you this from 374 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:53,440 Speaker 3: my last question, But the number one thing we got 375 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 3: in emails was was people who, as I said, feel 376 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:57,840 Speaker 3: like they really know you. You're part of our community, 377 00:14:57,840 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 3: and they've grown up to your music and your life, 378 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:02,560 Speaker 3: and they've lived your life with you, wanting to know 379 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:03,960 Speaker 3: about your health and how you're doing it. 380 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:04,400 Speaker 1: Well. 381 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:06,640 Speaker 2: I'll be buried and pass it in and when I pass. 382 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 2: Right now, I'm seventy six years old. The fall really 383 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:12,120 Speaker 2: got to me. I can't play the piano right now, 384 00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:14,760 Speaker 2: but I hadn't given up. I'm doing reflexology on my hands, 385 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 2: I'm doing spinal decompression on my back. I'm doing coal 386 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:20,680 Speaker 2: aition of therapy on my left side, so I damaged 387 00:15:20,680 --> 00:15:23,120 Speaker 2: the left side more. I was at TIER here in 388 00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 2: Houston for about six months doing rehab. 389 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:27,320 Speaker 1: I can walk. 390 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:29,440 Speaker 2: The doctors at one time didn't think I'd ever walk. 391 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:33,200 Speaker 2: But I'm walking, and I'm getting along fairly well. 392 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:34,280 Speaker 1: To be as old as I am. 393 00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:38,400 Speaker 3: How many of the doctors ask for your autograph. That's 394 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:39,880 Speaker 3: got to be a little awkward, right could you just 395 00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:41,920 Speaker 3: focus on my shoulder and stop asking for my audio. 396 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:44,640 Speaker 2: Well, you know, I tell the story. I tell the 397 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:46,600 Speaker 2: story when I'm doing my last story, I said, folks, 398 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:48,240 Speaker 2: I said. The last twenty years, I've tried to wipe 399 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 2: myself off of the face of the earth. I've had 400 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:52,880 Speaker 2: heart surgery, I've had brain surgery. My appendic's broke. I 401 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:54,760 Speaker 2: phished to get on my airplane and flow off. I 402 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 2: fell and hurt in my back. I've had two airplane crashes. 403 00:15:57,080 --> 00:15:58,840 Speaker 2: I walked away in boll of that. I've changed my 404 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 2: dat I'm now cat food. 405 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:04,680 Speaker 3: You still look like a million bucks. That's an amazing thing. 406 00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:07,760 Speaker 2: Well, I'm holding together pretty good. I've gained the weight 407 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:10,000 Speaker 2: back that I shouldn't have gained. I went down for 408 00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 2: one hundred and eighty six pounds down to one hundred and 409 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 2: thirty forty eight, and I couldn't hold my pants on it. 410 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 1: But now I'm back too big. 411 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 2: And I do a little thing in my show, and 412 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 2: I tell the people and say, look what this trainer 413 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:23,200 Speaker 2: did to my muscle. Here I'm talking about my tubby. 414 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 3: Well, I'll tell you this on behalf of a lot 415 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:28,600 Speaker 3: of fans in all across the country. Here in Houston 416 00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 3: and across the country. We wish you the best and 417 00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:31,920 Speaker 3: it's been a fun ride. 418 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:33,200 Speaker 1: For us as well. Michael, I thank you. 419 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:35,280 Speaker 2: And if you get a chance to come to Brnston. 420 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:38,000 Speaker 2: I went about you, your family and all your constituents 421 00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:40,280 Speaker 2: out there's listening to you. If they get a chance 422 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:43,240 Speaker 2: to come to Brentson, we got NonStop flights right out 423 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:46,680 Speaker 2: of the Hobby on air trens right into Branson. And 424 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:48,160 Speaker 2: if they get a chance to come to Brnson, I 425 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 2: think they have a great time to enjoy this. Say 426 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:52,120 Speaker 2: if it's a great vacation place and my theater's there. 427 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:55,480 Speaker 2: I'm doing three shows Sunday, Monday, and Tuesday nights during 428 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:57,960 Speaker 2: the summer months. I'll go back to Wednesday afternoons. 429 00:16:57,600 --> 00:16:58,160 Speaker 1: During the fall. 430 00:16:58,400 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 2: So if they get a chance to come to Brnson, 431 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 2: come over to the restaurant. We're saying karaoke together. 432 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:03,600 Speaker 3: This sounds like a lot of fun. Mickey Gilly, thanks 433 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:04,280 Speaker 3: for being our guest. 434 00:17:04,320 --> 00:17:04,639 Speaker 1: Thanks. 435 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:07,880 Speaker 3: If you like the Michael Berry Show and podcast, please 436 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:12,240 Speaker 3: tell one friend and if you're so inclined, write a 437 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:17,400 Speaker 3: nice review of our podcast. Comments, suggestions, questions, and interest 438 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:21,400 Speaker 3: in being a corporate sponsor and partner can be communicated 439 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:25,880 Speaker 3: directly to the show at our email address, Michael at 440 00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 3: Michael Berryshow dot com, or simply by clicking on our 441 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:34,679 Speaker 3: website Michael Berryshow dot com. 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