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Speaker 3: the comment what's happening, and welcome to another episode the

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Speaker 3: Gangs the Chronicles Podcast. I'm with my homeboy, Yeah today,

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Speaker 3: you know he. I think it's well established man that

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Speaker 3: we older gentlemen we OG's what the youngsters like to

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Speaker 3: call ogs, right right, But I like to think that

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Speaker 3: we come from the dopest time period of our heyday,

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Speaker 3: the nineties, the late ladies, in the early nineties. Don't

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Speaker 3: you think that there was probably the dopest times in

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Speaker 4: Them some good years, the years you know, we had

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Speaker 4: You can bang you some West Coast shit, but then

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Speaker 3: Ll cool J. Big Daddy came. You feel me. It

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Speaker 3: biggest thing is everybody was a riginal What no more

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Speaker 3: m cs and what no more Big Daddy Kynes? You

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Speaker 3: know you didn't have you know, right now, you can't

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Speaker 4: With an art of storytelling exactly to be you know,

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Speaker 4: We had a lot of you know, and even to

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Speaker 4: they Adidas and ship like that. Concepts and stories and

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Speaker 3: Nobody wanted to bite each other. Yeah, that was like

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Speaker 1: I said, let me just let me try this ship.

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Speaker 5: But I also love music and like I sing a

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Speaker 5: So what happened was like me and seven used to

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Speaker 4: To make sure. Guy used to play for me, Willie Z.

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Speaker 3: Sure. You have to you have to man for sure. Man,

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Speaker 1: What's up?

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Speaker 3: What I was saying was Man be in the nineties,

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Speaker 1: So me auditioned. So I'm at the house.

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Speaker 5: I just finished auditioning for Boys in Hood like two

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Speaker 5: So they seen the rhythmation with Janet Jackson, they seen

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Speaker 5: He's young because they didn't want to they didn't want

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true because you never knew, they never really

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Speaker 3: So you go up there and how soon did they

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Speaker 5: They basically told me there they was just like when

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Speaker 1: That part, he was probably had had me in mind.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm just like, I'm just trying.

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Speaker 3: When it's a hood, it's a certifying classes.

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Speaker 5: When I went to the screening of it, when they

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Speaker 1: They did, all.

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Speaker 3: Three of them had the premiere eight screen.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you went. I went to the

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Speaker 1: They did everything. I said, Oh ship, I said, I knew,

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Speaker 5: And then the way it was, the way it was filmed,

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean. It was like they it

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Speaker 5: It wasn't just a bunch of It wasn't just a

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. It wasn't like that, Like

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Speaker 5: It's like even when we're in the car, ate like,

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Speaker 5: hey man, you niggas acting like bitches like nigga just nigga,

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Speaker 5: It wasn't just like some niggas just go do this

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you could tell that y'all had a camaraderie and

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Speaker 3: a thing like a played the big homie perfectly. You know,

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Speaker 3: he played the big homie perfect because he was telling

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Speaker 3: When he said, y'all niggas shut the fuck up. Y'all

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Speaker 5: And then when he had to happen when when when

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Speaker 5: like the big homie like na, we don't need nobody

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Speaker 3: Niggas and my homie fine be gonna appreciate this. When

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Speaker 4: The streets, Oh definitely. Situations arise pretty quickly. You don't

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and it was a whole bunch of stuff in

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Speaker 3: you initially read that script, right, you didn't have a

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Speaker 5: Nah it it read more, it read more Street. But

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Speaker 3: In a lot. It was very realistic, That's what I said.

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Speaker 3: It was very realistic. Yeah. They they hit on a

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Speaker 4: I think in depth ship about life growing up in

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Speaker 3: You know, you want to be.

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Speaker 4: A straight kid or you know, a straight motherfucker. But

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Speaker 3: A single kid, you get me. You got no.

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Speaker 4: Brothers, no sisters, no cousins, and you know, so influenced

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Speaker 3: And that was the thing about that film. Man. It

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Speaker 3: you would think watching it that people just get a

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Speaker 3: more than anything else got from it, man, is that

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Speaker 3: do you give a fuck if you live or die?

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Speaker 3: And you really looked at him like, shit, I don't know.

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Speaker 5: You got to understand growing up in a neighborhood, like

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Speaker 5: It ain't nothing to do but to get in some

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Speaker 3: Think about this, Think about if this man right at

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Speaker 3: the end of the table didn't have storytelling and rapping ability,

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00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:31,160
Speaker 3: or if you didn't know how to act, what would

438
00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:33,359
Speaker 3: y'all be doing now, you just life life.

439
00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:41,840
Speaker 4: You know, you fortunate to be put in a position

440
00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:49,040
Speaker 4: like you know, I was able to write down your

441
00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:57,439
Speaker 4: tales and stories and shit I saw participated in. But

442
00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:01,760
Speaker 4: before then, shit, like I said, the quest was to

443
00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:08,439
Speaker 4: be from the neighborhood. Shit Like you be a kid

444
00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:11,240
Speaker 4: and you might, oh, yeah, I'm gonna be a fireman,

445
00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:13,960
Speaker 4: or I'm gonna be a policeman or a football or

446
00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:15,680
Speaker 4: sports motherfucker.

447
00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:16,439
Speaker 3: You know.

448
00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:23,760
Speaker 4: But then when you're living in poverty once again, and shit,

449
00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:27,560
Speaker 4: everybody in the neighborhood is selling dope and gang banging

450
00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:34,639
Speaker 4: and like minutes, try to walk that line, right because

451
00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:36,479
Speaker 4: you're in the neighborhood and you were a kid. As

452
00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:39,680
Speaker 4: a kid, you don't really know what's going on around

453
00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:40,480
Speaker 4: you the world.

454
00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:41,280
Speaker 3: You're a kid.

455
00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:43,919
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, you're riding your bike down the street

456
00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:46,280
Speaker 4: where two niggas just got killed last night.

457
00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:50,440
Speaker 3: You don't, you don't. You don't focus on that as

458
00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:55,120
Speaker 3: if you and to humanize the characters, right, because even

459
00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:58,520
Speaker 3: Old Dog, as fucked up as Old Dog was, you

460
00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:00,600
Speaker 3: still saw at the end of the day, he was

461
00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:03,160
Speaker 3: just a little kid from the hood that was trying

462
00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:05,760
Speaker 3: to survive and I mean, this is doing what he

463
00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:08,280
Speaker 3: had to do. That's what I'm handed. You get me.

464
00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:13,680
Speaker 3: I'm not educated. You give me. That shit stopped and

465
00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:15,280
Speaker 3: he probably had some mental problems too.

466
00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:18,719
Speaker 4: That shit probably stopped when I was you know, like

467
00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:21,520
Speaker 4: I said, when you four and five and you going

468
00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:25,960
Speaker 4: to school and everything is fun until you face with

469
00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:30,080
Speaker 4: dealing with the reality of nigga. We in poverty like

470
00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:34,000
Speaker 4: a motherfucker, and it starts affecting you and fucking with

471
00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:39,600
Speaker 4: you to where your dreams of being something other than

472
00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:45,639
Speaker 4: what's around you, that shit is gone all whole good.

473
00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:46,680
Speaker 3: It's like, so.

474
00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:53,200
Speaker 4: To be able to you know, do what you do

475
00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:56,040
Speaker 4: or whatever, and to just make it out of the

476
00:24:56,119 --> 00:25:00,040
Speaker 4: situation is in problems for a lot of niggas. And

477
00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:02,040
Speaker 4: that's why you got a lot of niggas from the

478
00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:07,600
Speaker 4: era of my days who you know, got thirty twenty

479
00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:11,359
Speaker 4: five years to life in the pen and you know,

480
00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:14,479
Speaker 4: or just now coming home and you know, all this

481
00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:18,720
Speaker 4: new wave of technology and internet and all this shit.

482
00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:21,000
Speaker 4: But that's why a lot of us, a lot of

483
00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:23,199
Speaker 4: us was faced with that because we didn't have no

484
00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:27,800
Speaker 4: choice back then. You get me, It's a lot of

485
00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:31,800
Speaker 4: choices today for you to stray away from growing up

486
00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:33,520
Speaker 4: in the neighborhood.

487
00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:37,560
Speaker 3: Back then. Shit, it were I.

488
00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:40,680
Speaker 4: Didn't you know, we didn't have too many sports teams

489
00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:44,560
Speaker 4: and niggas didn't have private trainers and camps and all

490
00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:47,600
Speaker 4: that shit, you know, And all I knew about in

491
00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:52,240
Speaker 4: the neighborhood was the niggas who were slanging and who

492
00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:56,640
Speaker 4: got bussed on, you know, last night or whatever whatever.

493
00:25:56,920 --> 00:26:01,000
Speaker 3: I mean. So it's kind of hard to stray away

494
00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:05,159
Speaker 3: from that for real. And you was raised like I

495
00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:07,080
Speaker 3: guess she was made for that part because she was

496
00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:08,679
Speaker 3: raised by your grandmother too, right.

497
00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:11,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, I was, Well, my mom my mom had me

498
00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:15,320
Speaker 5: when she was like thirteen fourteen in the neighborhood.

499
00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:17,360
Speaker 1: Whatever, So my mom was there.

500
00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:19,640
Speaker 5: She just was a kid as well, so we were

501
00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:21,840
Speaker 5: we were like kids together kind of thing. And my

502
00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:25,359
Speaker 5: grandmother and I have my aunties, so I just, you know,

503
00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:28,359
Speaker 5: I've seen a lot, you know what I mean. I

504
00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:31,720
Speaker 5: understood that I didn't want to be in gangs because

505
00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:34,560
Speaker 5: my uncle played football. He never dranked and never smoke,

506
00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:36,520
Speaker 5: and I just always remembered that like he wanted to

507
00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:37,000
Speaker 5: be something.

508
00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:38,840
Speaker 1: So I was like, well, I gotta I gotta figure

509
00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:39,160
Speaker 1: this out.

510
00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:41,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, because she was playing football and stuff too.

511
00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:43,719
Speaker 1: You went to her, Yeah, went to Sarah, you went

512
00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:44,639
Speaker 1: to high school.

513
00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:47,040
Speaker 3: I mean you talked about that you was a defensive

514
00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:50,199
Speaker 3: back man, and yeah, Tying is a physical motherfucker. I

515
00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:52,160
Speaker 3: know you know. We ain't gonna talk like the other people.

516
00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:53,360
Speaker 3: Tyron got some squabbles.

517
00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:56,960
Speaker 5: Man, I wouldn't even say. I just defend myself like

518
00:26:57,000 --> 00:27:00,840
Speaker 5: any other human being. It ain't about who can and

519
00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:04,560
Speaker 5: when you if you're protecting yourself, it's not about having squads.

520
00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:06,800
Speaker 5: It's about like, I don't I don't real I don't

521
00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:07,520
Speaker 5: mess with nobody.

522
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:07,840
Speaker 1: I don't.

523
00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:09,880
Speaker 5: I don't want no issues. I know how to walk

524
00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:11,960
Speaker 5: away from an issue. I know how to do all

525
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:14,840
Speaker 5: those things. It's just when I can't. I just want

526
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:16,520
Speaker 5: to defend myself like any other human being.

527
00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:18,360
Speaker 3: Man. And us as you go win when you don't,

528
00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:20,520
Speaker 3: when you want to, don't start problems. You usually wanted

529
00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:21,160
Speaker 3: to be a victor.

530
00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:23,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's anybody, anybody. If you if you got started,

531
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:26,000
Speaker 5: I feel like you should win. If you didn't start,

532
00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:26,760
Speaker 5: start no trouble.

533
00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:31,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, so you get this role, man, how quick do

534
00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:32,920
Speaker 3: your life change?

535
00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:34,880
Speaker 1: It was?

536
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:35,320
Speaker 3: It was.

537
00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:39,080
Speaker 5: It's it's crazy because I grew up on fifty first

538
00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:43,240
Speaker 5: and Hoover, and where I come from. I just always

539
00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:46,120
Speaker 5: like to just do normal stuff like walk to the liquor.

540
00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:48,640
Speaker 1: Store and do stuff that I was just accustomed to doing.

541
00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:51,880
Speaker 5: I remember going to the liquor store and and it

542
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:54,199
Speaker 5: was just like the cars start piling up on the

543
00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:58,000
Speaker 5: block or whatever, and I just I was like, Okay,

544
00:27:58,040 --> 00:27:59,879
Speaker 5: this is this is this is a little different. But

545
00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:02,200
Speaker 5: I'm still a little naive because I'm just like that's

546
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:04,159
Speaker 5: all I know is just how to like I'm not

547
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:06,600
Speaker 5: I didn't come from Hollywood. I didn't come for where

548
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:09,159
Speaker 5: my nobody in my family was in Hollywood, so I

549
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:11,639
Speaker 5: didn't know, like I can't walk down the street no more,

550
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:13,879
Speaker 5: I can't go to the liquor store do regular stuff,

551
00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:15,479
Speaker 5: like go to the actual liquor store. I was like,

552
00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:17,320
Speaker 5: I'm gonna go to the lick store and buy me

553
00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:20,160
Speaker 5: some more fucking policies and stuff you just like regular.

554
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:22,960
Speaker 3: Shit and pulling up on the side of the road,

555
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:23,640
Speaker 3: on you.

556
00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:24,919
Speaker 1: Pulling up on the side road, honking.

557
00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:28,560
Speaker 5: But it wasn't just all kind of stuff, no, nothing dangerous,

558
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:31,680
Speaker 5: but just crowded just like Okay, it's a scene here,

559
00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:36,080
Speaker 5: like the movie was big, big, to where I now,

560
00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:38,280
Speaker 5: I've made a scene in the neighborhood if I'm there,

561
00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:39,080
Speaker 5: that's all.

562
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:42,360
Speaker 3: When did you realize you had to get about that motherfucker?

563
00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:47,080
Speaker 5: Well, I always I never got out of it. I

564
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:49,000
Speaker 5: just knew that I had to. It's just the way.

565
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:50,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, not like that, but you know, you know you

566
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:53,040
Speaker 3: have to if you want to have a peace of mind,

567
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:54,080
Speaker 3: you got to make a move.

568
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:56,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, you just understand as a time and a place

569
00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:59,000
Speaker 5: like a certain times like Dippy and Dip. It ain't

570
00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:00,800
Speaker 5: about just oh, I can't you over here. That's not

571
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:03,440
Speaker 5: what it is. It's just about picking and choosing how

572
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:05,040
Speaker 5: to do it. Like you just can't. I just can't

573
00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:07,800
Speaker 5: go to the to the uh the liquor bank just

574
00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:09,840
Speaker 5: cause I cause I think it's cool to do cause

575
00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:10,440
Speaker 5: you just gotta.

576
00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:14,360
Speaker 1: It's just different cause people will test you. People will

577
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:15,600
Speaker 1: test you. People will How.

578
00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:17,840
Speaker 3: Often did you get tested you? Especially you playing the

579
00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:19,560
Speaker 3: road that you was playing, you was you know, you

580
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:21,120
Speaker 3: was a hard body in the movie.

581
00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:24,360
Speaker 5: I got tested a lot in the w L Let

582
00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:26,360
Speaker 5: me just say a lot of people loved us, first

583
00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:28,600
Speaker 5: of all, like the movie, like so as much as

584
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:30,960
Speaker 5: I got tested it was a billion millions of people

585
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:33,120
Speaker 5: that didn't test. They loved they was a fan of

586
00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:35,280
Speaker 5: our work and all that kind of stuff. So when

587
00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:37,760
Speaker 5: I did get tested, it was basically more about you

588
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:40,200
Speaker 5: look a little little in person.

589
00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:43,960
Speaker 4: I mean you and you And then it's usually always

590
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:49,920
Speaker 4: uh from your own stepping grounds. You know, you get

591
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:54,560
Speaker 4: appreciated when you go up the places, not that you

592
00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:59,800
Speaker 4: are uh uh intimidating to people, but just for the

593
00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:04,760
Speaker 4: fa that people respect what you do as far as

594
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:10,160
Speaker 4: making records or acting or whatever. It's like it's something

595
00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:15,520
Speaker 4: about growing up here and growing up in a neighborhood

596
00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:23,040
Speaker 4: that could it's it's it's gonna ride you until niggas

597
00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:29,000
Speaker 4: feel like you ain't a threat anymore to the Then

598
00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:31,400
Speaker 4: it's like, oh man, that nigga, you know whatever.

599
00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:33,400
Speaker 3: Oh that's tiring on you know whatever.

600
00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:36,360
Speaker 4: But like you said, the motherfucker want to test you

601
00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:39,200
Speaker 4: because first of all, you come from the land of

602
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:43,760
Speaker 4: where you know niggas is about that life of pulling

603
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:44,640
Speaker 4: the niggas card.

604
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:46,960
Speaker 3: You get me, so.

605
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:52,480
Speaker 4: It's always gonna be one you feel me like shit,

606
00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:55,680
Speaker 4: oh nigga, this nigga was hard in the movie, or

607
00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:58,400
Speaker 4: this nigga grew up on so and so and WHOOPI

608
00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:00,680
Speaker 4: won't thing. I remember, I went to go with this

609
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:03,480
Speaker 4: shit and walked and that's where you get that.

610
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:05,400
Speaker 3: That's crazy, man.

611
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:08,480
Speaker 4: So so you you didn't have to do because you

612
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:09,680
Speaker 4: came from Cleveland.

613
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:13,280
Speaker 3: So you know what, though, Man, the biggest thing I

614
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:16,880
Speaker 3: get now is why you don't call I called you

615
00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:19,600
Speaker 3: twenty times while you're not picking up the phone, and

616
00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:23,840
Speaker 3: it's like, dude, you called me at two o'clock in

617
00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:26,520
Speaker 3: the morning or some crazy time at five o'clock in

618
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:29,080
Speaker 3: the morning. No, I'm not answering my phone. But for

619
00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:31,440
Speaker 3: the most part, it's more love. But this stuff I'm

620
00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:34,440
Speaker 3: not go front. You always have certain people that know

621
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:37,280
Speaker 3: how to strike a nerve with you. Oh definitely, they

622
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:39,080
Speaker 3: just want to strike a nerve. You're like, why are

623
00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:41,040
Speaker 3: you coming at me with that silly shit right now?

624
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:43,320
Speaker 3: You know what I mean. But for the most part,

625
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:46,760
Speaker 3: it's love. Like you said, so you're doing this man.

626
00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 3: That was one of those defining roads man, that where

627
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:53,280
Speaker 3: usually in Hollywood somebody get that type of part, you know,

628
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:55,600
Speaker 3: have that type of performance. They turn in that type

629
00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:59,280
Speaker 3: of performance, they wind up just elevating.

630
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:00,920
Speaker 6: Yeah when they're white.

631
00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:04,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, that's that's what I was gonna. Do you

632
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:07,880
Speaker 3: feel that us as black people, man, do you think

633
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:09,880
Speaker 3: Hollywood just kind of give us the short end of

634
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:10,720
Speaker 3: the stick all the time.

635
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:12,120
Speaker 1: I wouldn't.

636
00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:14,720
Speaker 5: I would say we give ourselves a short end sometime

637
00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 5: a little bit. Well, we did a we did a

638
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:22,200
Speaker 5: great film, right, me A Lorenz and Jay We did

639
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:24,960
Speaker 5: a great film, right, Alan Hughes and Albert Hughes.

640
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:25,680
Speaker 1: They directed it.

641
00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:25,920
Speaker 3: Right.

642
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 1: The phone never rung again for none, none of that chemistry. Yeah,

643
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:34,320
Speaker 1: because you think, but.

644
00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:35,800
Speaker 5: But but look at the look look at it like this,

645
00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:39,720
Speaker 5: when you look at Ryan Coogler, that did Fruitville with

646
00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:40,280
Speaker 5: Michael B.

647
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:43,000
Speaker 1: Jordan, Right, he did, then he.

648
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:46,720
Speaker 5: Did Creed, then he directed Creed, then he let Michael B.

649
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:50,840
Speaker 5: Jordan direct Creed, and then he did Black Panther.

650
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:53,000
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

651
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:55,880
Speaker 5: When you think of John Singleton, he tyresse baby boy,

652
00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:57,920
Speaker 5: fast and furious.

653
00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:00,920
Speaker 1: What's the what the the one did with Mark Wallburg?

654
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:02,440
Speaker 3: Mark Wallburg?

655
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:05,560
Speaker 1: But the brothers, Yeah, brothers, that's all John Singleton.

656
00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:05,800
Speaker 3: Right.

657
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:12,360
Speaker 5: So even with with Spike Lee, I think that with

658
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:17,640
Speaker 5: us and I'm nobody owes anybody, nothing, nobody, but what

659
00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:20,440
Speaker 5: this man did for minutes with the with the with

660
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:25,400
Speaker 5: the with that song that I think this describe that

661
00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:27,840
Speaker 5: movie better than any movie I've ever seen in my life.

662
00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:31,480
Speaker 5: It was just hand in hand, right, you don't come back,

663
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:34,120
Speaker 5: and not that they owe anything, but like as a

664
00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:36,680
Speaker 5: as as a filmmaker's you know, you don't come back.

665
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:41,040
Speaker 1: Oh let's run it back, Jordan running back with sometimes

666
00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:42,280
Speaker 1: you can. It's okay to run.

667
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:45,680
Speaker 5: Things back, you know what I mean, but to not

668
00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:48,360
Speaker 5: but to not to not run it back and to

669
00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:52,000
Speaker 5: kind of like sometimes people want to cross over and

670
00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:54,880
Speaker 5: they think that the crossing over mean are often to

671
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:58,720
Speaker 5: go do uh Benjamin but whatever, like a white film.

672
00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:02,200
Speaker 4: But I tell all, I'm gonna do some some Tom Cruise,

673
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:05,680
Speaker 4: I'm gonna shoot Mission Impossible next or you know, and

674
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:14,160
Speaker 4: I get it. Their directorship, you know, following minutes took

675
00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:17,520
Speaker 4: a different route, you get me. They was doing horror

676
00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:21,360
Speaker 4: films and all kinds of shit, and it probably was

677
00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:27,960
Speaker 4: a lot of requests from the streets and uh to

678
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:34,080
Speaker 4: follow up with something in that line. But like you said,

679
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:38,919
Speaker 4: once they felt like shit, we didn't. We done left

680
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:41,799
Speaker 4: the block, nigga. Now we done moved up to Hollywood

681
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:46,160
Speaker 4: Hills because we're not staying We're not staying on fifty first,

682
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:49,840
Speaker 4: no more, Nigga Now, were staying in motherfucking behind the

683
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:55,000
Speaker 4: gates down the street for motherfucking you know so now

684
00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 4: or it's I say the same thing about Nigga's record. Sometimes,

685
00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:03,319
Speaker 4: you know, they come in hungry. You hear it, You

686
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:07,799
Speaker 4: hear the songs, depression, poverty, nigga. If I make it,

687
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:12,120
Speaker 4: you know, I'm a whatever, whatever, and then motherfuckers go,

688
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:17,239
Speaker 4: damn yeah, blow up, sell three four million records, next thing,

689
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:22,480
Speaker 4: you know, Nigga, I've been had, Nigga. I'm on my

690
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:28,120
Speaker 4: fucking five million dollar yacht. Nigga, we drinking fucking champagne

691
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:30,480
Speaker 4: out of the bitches, ass cracks and shit, and.

692
00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:32,200
Speaker 3: Like what happened to that?

693
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:36,680
Speaker 4: You know, like sometimes you gotta not forget about what

694
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:37,520
Speaker 4: got you.

695
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 3: And it's hard to keep it, man, Because I'm gonna

696
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:42,719
Speaker 3: tell you it's hard to keep it because it's a

697
00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:45,319
Speaker 3: certain amount of pressure and stress to come with any

698
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:49,319
Speaker 3: amount of success. Oh, definitely, because you always and then

699
00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:50,719
Speaker 3: it's one of them things. Let me ask you this,

700
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:53,680
Speaker 3: cause I'm pretty sure you went with this. People always

701
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:59,279
Speaker 3: think you got more than what you actually had. How

702
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:01,960
Speaker 3: did you deal with telling certain family members know what

703
00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 3: certain homies know. I didn't.

704
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:07,200
Speaker 1: I always gave what I had. It didn't like if

705
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:08,520
Speaker 1: I had one hundred dollar I could give.

706
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:10,759
Speaker 3: See I'm not talking about no money like that, because

707
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 3: I think everybody do that. You know, you see the

708
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:14,879
Speaker 3: homie the only needs something. You look out for him.

709
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:17,120
Speaker 5: Let me let me, let me say something norm So,

710
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:20,360
Speaker 5: getting back to what A said, look at Mark scors

711
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:22,880
Speaker 5: I think he did edgy.

712
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:23,399
Speaker 1: Films as well.

713
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:23,839
Speaker 3: Mark.

714
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:26,799
Speaker 5: You say he didn't, but you guess what he did.

715
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:29,279
Speaker 5: You know what he understood about it. He's like, shit,

716
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:31,880
Speaker 5: I'm I'm going with the narrow. I'm gonna run it

717
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:35,319
Speaker 5: back with Pesci. I'm gonna run it back because he

718
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:38,400
Speaker 5: understood that that chemerastry, that dynamic when.

719
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:43,319
Speaker 6: You you can't teach chemistry, and when you have that kind

720
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:46,000
Speaker 6: of chemistry, you just don't let When when Dre and

721
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:50,160
Speaker 6: Snoop did the Chronic Guy, they knew, they knew that

722
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:52,920
Speaker 6: they had they knew that they had chemistry.

723
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:55,000
Speaker 1: So they're like, you know what we're gonna have to

724
00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:56,200
Speaker 1: that's what this is.

725
00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:57,960
Speaker 3: We're gonna We're gonna make this a franchise.

726
00:36:58,160 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, we're gonna, we're gonna, we're gonna run this back.

727
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:06,200
Speaker 5: So I just feel like I just feel like people

728
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:09,040
Speaker 5: just ancient to cross over. It's kind of like that's

729
00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:11,920
Speaker 5: like eight. That's like eight doing what he did, and

730
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:15,480
Speaker 5: then all of a sudden he uh doing a country

731
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:16,640
Speaker 5: album or something like that.

732
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:18,719
Speaker 1: It's just you can, you can.

733
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:25,120
Speaker 4: I was too afraid to lose my core fans. You

734
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:32,759
Speaker 4: get you get presented with chances to go over, you know,

735
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:38,560
Speaker 4: and do something different. Maybe it would have been beneficial

736
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:41,319
Speaker 4: more than what my career has been.

737
00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:46,359
Speaker 3: Maybe not. I just never wanted to stray away from

738
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:48,919
Speaker 3: what got me there. I tell you this right now.

739
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:52,880
Speaker 3: I love Timberland, but I don't want to exactly, you know.

740
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:56,640
Speaker 3: I just I just I never wanted and then when

741
00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 3: I got faced.

742
00:37:57,320 --> 00:38:00,719
Speaker 4: With ship like that, I just took the lower and said,

743
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:07,200
Speaker 4: fuck it, I'm good. I just didn't want to, I

744
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:12,160
Speaker 4: guess disappoint the motherfuckers who walk through the struggle with

745
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:17,520
Speaker 4: me through those records, and then I turn around and go, Okay,

746
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 4: thank you, thanks, fuck y'all. I'm finna go grab this

747
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 4: motherfucking money bag and I'm finna rap about you know,

748
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:29,880
Speaker 4: partying and santro peis with you know, butt naked bitches

749
00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:34,160
Speaker 4: and we partying and drinking and throwing money y'all out there.

750
00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:37,120
Speaker 4: I didn't want my core fans to be like, what

751
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:39,520
Speaker 4: the fuck like dude?

752
00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 3: You know, so.

753
00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:45,959
Speaker 4: Some some people take that route because the money is more.

754
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:49,359
Speaker 4: You know, I want to be that image. You So

755
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:52,320
Speaker 4: now I'm gonna go from wearing khakis and driving in

756
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 4: a six ' four to I'm pulling up in the Bugatti.

757
00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:58,680
Speaker 4: Nigga would fur on my boots and shit and my

758
00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:02,200
Speaker 4: pants pockets and ship and you know, I got on

759
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:05,399
Speaker 4: the sea through tank top and ship like that and

760
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:09,480
Speaker 4: in a big fur hat because that's what they call

761
00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:14,200
Speaker 4: fashion now. So you know, some people tend to, you know,

762
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:15,200
Speaker 4: go astray.

763
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:19,000
Speaker 3: You know, it's evidently it's a certain formula. You feel

764
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:21,759
Speaker 3: like they didn't they were too busy, they were too

765
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:24,640
Speaker 3: concerned with crossing over and doing other things. Is there's

766
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:26,359
Speaker 3: nothing wrong with wanting to scale.

767
00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:33,200
Speaker 1: Listen, I think that. I think they don't own nobody, nothing.

768
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:34,840
Speaker 1: You can do. What you want to do is theirs

769
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:35,399
Speaker 1: their life.

770
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:38,320
Speaker 5: But what I'm saying is a lot of times people

771
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:41,840
Speaker 5: say I don't owe or help, Well.

772
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:42,040
Speaker 3: What is it?

773
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:46,040
Speaker 5: For I don't, oh, I don't help you know if

774
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:50,160
Speaker 5: if if if eight got a podcast or longer a podcast,

775
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:52,359
Speaker 5: and I rock with y'all, like, what's wrong?

776
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:56,359
Speaker 1: What's helping is okay? Like I think we I think

777
00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:59,200
Speaker 1: we're messed up with we thinking it's I don't.

778
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:01,600
Speaker 5: Own nobody or it's not that you own old boy,

779
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:04,480
Speaker 5: nothing like that, but it's you kind of well, you.

780
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:06,480
Speaker 3: Know what I will say, just and I agree with you.

781
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:11,080
Speaker 3: I feel like this, man, if I have the means

782
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:15,520
Speaker 3: of helping somebody that I call my homeboy, homegirl, family member, relative,

783
00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:17,759
Speaker 3: if I have a means of helping them out, and

784
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:20,560
Speaker 3: they understand that they would have to dedicate a certain

785
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:23,560
Speaker 3: amount of time and work to it, I'm all in.

786
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:27,560
Speaker 3: Just don't expect me to do everything, but I'm definitely

787
00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:29,600
Speaker 3: gonna help you. I feel like I'm obligated, right.

788
00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:32,720
Speaker 5: So so look at it like this, Say we somewhere

789
00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:38,640
Speaker 5: and we see somebody finish jumping Hughes brothers, Right, is

790
00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:39,960
Speaker 5: it our obligation to help them?

791
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:40,560
Speaker 1: Motherfuckers?

792
00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:40,640
Speaker 3: No?

793
00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:43,439
Speaker 1: But if I feel like, man, that's the right thing

794
00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:43,759
Speaker 1: to do.

795
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:46,640
Speaker 5: Shit Like if I see a somewhere and it ain't

796
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:48,279
Speaker 5: looking good, I feel like it's the right thing to do.

797
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:49,719
Speaker 1: And now hold on, homemi nigga, we both goin to

798
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:50,960
Speaker 1: get beat up or whatever that is.

799
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:53,080
Speaker 5: I feel like it's the right thing to do. It

800
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:57,200
Speaker 5: don't have to beat you, don't all. There's nothing wrong

801
00:40:57,280 --> 00:40:59,560
Speaker 5: with being that kind of person that help. And I

802
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:01,680
Speaker 5: think people will get caught up in like you know what,

803
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 5: in their own in their own and own business, where

804
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:09,280
Speaker 5: Alan Albert, you know, it wouldn't have hurt to help,

805
00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:10,719
Speaker 5: It wouldn't have you know what I'm saying.

806
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:11,920
Speaker 1: That's all. That's all I'm saying.

807
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:14,160
Speaker 5: And then you when you go through the white films,

808
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:17,719
Speaker 5: it's so many white directors that you I don't you

809
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:21,200
Speaker 5: don't even know who they are. That's why when you

810
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:22,759
Speaker 5: do a Minuce or a Boys in the Hood, you

811
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:25,600
Speaker 5: get noticed. Like John Singleton, we know you did that.

812
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:28,560
Speaker 5: It's noticeable of your how good your work is because

813
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:31,399
Speaker 5: it's for the culture. But when you do what all

814
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:35,520
Speaker 5: if Alan gonna do Jurrassic Park right now, nobody's gonna

815
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:37,480
Speaker 5: care because we've seen seven of them already.

816
00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:40,600
Speaker 3: Yeah for real, why.

817
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:43,520
Speaker 1: Already seen them? E f Grade Grade did Fast and Furious.

818
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:46,120
Speaker 1: John Singley did Fast and Furious.

819
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:48,479
Speaker 5: We know John Single did for Boys in the Hood

820
00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:52,360
Speaker 5: because it stood out because he told a story about

821
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:54,960
Speaker 5: what everybody in our culture can relate to.

822
00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:58,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you see what is That's why I think

823
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:02,040
Speaker 3: snowfall orisonated with so many people, which was his last work.

824
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:04,560
Speaker 3: It was kind of back a return back to the

825
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:07,719
Speaker 3: to the roofs, were going back to the neighborhood, you know,

826
00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:09,760
Speaker 3: and it was a success.

827
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:18,480
Speaker 4: That's always an intriguing story for people, true situations that

828
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:23,720
Speaker 4: that they get to probably glance across or heard about

829
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:24,800
Speaker 4: or whatever.

830
00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:26,880
Speaker 3: And uh saw.

831
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:31,760
Speaker 4: Truthfulness and situations always intrigue people.

832
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:36,520
Speaker 3: I just think White America, man, it's still captivated to

833
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 3: this day about our lifestyle, especially people in Middle America

834
00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:43,640
Speaker 3: that don't you know, you figure somebody in I can't

835
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:46,080
Speaker 3: say Omaha, Nebraska is kind of hood. They got they

836
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:49,280
Speaker 3: they got their spots down there, but somewhere like Bismarck,

837
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:52,280
Speaker 3: North Dakota where they don't see a lot of black people.

838
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 3: Those type of spots are enclaves, man, that have a

839
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:59,080
Speaker 3: tendency just kind of live in their own world. I

840
00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:02,200
Speaker 3: think people are all always like intrigued with what we

841
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:08,040
Speaker 3: got going on in the community. So you work pretty consistently.

842
00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:10,120
Speaker 3: I would say that because you always got something going on.

843
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:12,040
Speaker 3: It's a lot of movies. I'll be sitting and watching

844
00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:13,960
Speaker 3: TV at night. Sometimes I'm like this, Tyron, I don't

845
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 3: even know Tyron was in this ship. So you stay working.

846
00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:19,800
Speaker 5: This is the thing when you do when you when

847
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:23,239
Speaker 5: you do some classic it's gonna always. It's like doing

848
00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:27,000
Speaker 5: a classic album. You know you're gonna always. It's it's

849
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:29,000
Speaker 5: hard to it's hard to top those you know what

850
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:29,399
Speaker 5: I'm saying.

851
00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:30,960
Speaker 1: No matter how.

852
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:33,839
Speaker 5: Dope you are, you can do a big like it's

853
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:36,480
Speaker 5: hard to It's just hard to top those things. You

854
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:39,160
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying, All the stuff eight has done.

855
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:41,640
Speaker 5: I'm throw straight up minute. Everybody always requests one of

856
00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:43,319
Speaker 5: that's one of the one of the one of the

857
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:48,560
Speaker 5: top requests because like whoever God wrote that with him?

858
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:55,560
Speaker 5: That was that was that that that song. It's that's

859
00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:59,399
Speaker 5: that movie song right there is like you know when

860
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:06,040
Speaker 5: when Ice Cube did How to Survive South Central, that

861
00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:06,720
Speaker 5: was dope.

862
00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:08,439
Speaker 1: But this motherfucker right here.

863
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:14,000
Speaker 4: We also had a song on the Boys in the

864
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:18,919
Speaker 4: Hood soundtrack too, We had growing Up in It that

865
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:24,200
Speaker 4: became a number one single when they had on a

866
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:32,480
Speaker 4: billboard rap chart. I just like I said, being influenced.

867
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:38,080
Speaker 4: You you feel me and it's not too difficult because

868
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:42,560
Speaker 4: I'm living this ship. You get me. U. I'm seeing

869
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:45,840
Speaker 4: the poverty, I'm seeing the gangs. I'm ship.

870
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:48,320
Speaker 3: I'm running with a gang. Uh.

871
00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:53,560
Speaker 4: You know, straps and cracksacks and and and and hood

872
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:57,080
Speaker 4: rats in the neighborhood. And that was my life. You

873
00:44:57,120 --> 00:44:57,560
Speaker 4: feel me.

874
00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:03,480
Speaker 1: To tell those stories, it's genius and it's great. I can't.

875
00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:06,960
Speaker 5: I'm not gonna let you undermine the fact that you

876
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:08,160
Speaker 5: grew up in Yeah, you grew up in it.

877
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:10,799
Speaker 1: But to tell those stories and to and to get it, to.

878
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:14,680
Speaker 5: Get it across and for it to resonate like that,

879
00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:17,760
Speaker 5: that's that's that's that's a It's a lot of niggas

880
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:19,840
Speaker 5: that can talk about getting shot this or that. What

881
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:23,520
Speaker 5: to have the you have to be gifted to make

882
00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:26,839
Speaker 5: somebody like to articulate like.

883
00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:31,440
Speaker 1: I'm at the liquor store with the.

884
00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:34,279
Speaker 5: Strap the Japanese all that kind of like you have

885
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:37,440
Speaker 5: to like that ship is like that is entailed.

886
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:39,560
Speaker 1: Those are those are you.

887
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:42,000
Speaker 3: Know those little minute details you have?

888
00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:45,239
Speaker 5: You have you have the minute details that niggas don't

889
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:46,359
Speaker 5: know how to explain in the hood.

890
00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:50,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, because it was, like like you said, the details

891
00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:51,600
Speaker 4: was because.

892
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:55,040
Speaker 3: I wake up every day and I come over here.

893
00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:56,719
Speaker 3: I'm standing over here with.

894
00:45:56,760 --> 00:46:00,200
Speaker 4: Niggas and we're selling crack together, and you know, old

895
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:03,799
Speaker 4: niggas is dying, and and you know, we go on

896
00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:07,640
Speaker 4: the funerals and all that type of shit. You know,

897
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:11,120
Speaker 4: I got a mom at home who don't understand, but

898
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:14,080
Speaker 4: you know, because she's from a different time.

899
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:15,960
Speaker 3: Like what I'm saying, we.

900
00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:21,000
Speaker 4: Struggled with with slaves shit and and racism and all that,

901
00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:25,120
Speaker 4: and I don't understand with this gang shit like y'all

902
00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:29,200
Speaker 4: driving around shooting at each other and and and and

903
00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:34,040
Speaker 4: wearing bandanas. Like my folks didn't understand it. And especially

904
00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:37,640
Speaker 4: because I was the only motherfucker doing it, you feel me.

905
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:42,360
Speaker 4: Everybody else in my relatives they were still down south,

906
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:45,239
Speaker 4: you get me. They were still in the Mississippis and

907
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:49,600
Speaker 4: the Texas and shit, and so, like, what the fuck

908
00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:51,440
Speaker 4: is going on out in California?

909
00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:56,560
Speaker 5: Hey, You and you and Pop were the only rappers

910
00:46:57,080 --> 00:47:00,960
Speaker 5: to explain the relationship between the Jeff Jeff Panese and

911
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:03,080
Speaker 5: the blacks, Like you know what I mean, y'all the

912
00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:12,359
Speaker 5: only ones with him with Natasha, but the relationship with

913
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:15,239
Speaker 5: how we felt when we were in those careers.

914
00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:18,920
Speaker 4: With the way we stereotype we had and it's crazy,

915
00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:24,279
Speaker 4: because it's crazy when you think about it, to think like.

916
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:27,520
Speaker 3: This, we grew up here.

917
00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:30,320
Speaker 4: And but you know, all in all, the majority of

918
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:34,279
Speaker 4: the liquor stores were owned by Japanese people, and you know,

919
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:36,680
Speaker 4: they had just had the spot meets, they had the

920
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:40,120
Speaker 4: liquor stores and all that. But you know that that

921
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:43,480
Speaker 4: came from and we over here struggling like a motherfucker

922
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:47,360
Speaker 4: motherfucker's needing food stamps and county checks and ship like

923
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:52,080
Speaker 4: that and so and and for us to be you

924
00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:55,319
Speaker 4: get me like, damn, we got it from from the

925
00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:58,279
Speaker 4: white people and ship back in the days long time,

926
00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:01,560
Speaker 4: and now to be both coming out because y'all came

927
00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:04,360
Speaker 4: out of some fucked up shit too, yeah, wanting to

928
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:07,720
Speaker 4: be in our neighborhood and now we're getting the dirty

929
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:09,040
Speaker 4: looks like you feel.

930
00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:11,359
Speaker 3: Well, from what I understand, all of that was set

931
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:15,200
Speaker 3: up systematically kind of right, definitely, because like you said,

932
00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:17,719
Speaker 3: they went through their own shit too, right, They went

933
00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:19,800
Speaker 3: through a lot of shit. America did them dirty. Exactly

934
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:22,480
Speaker 3: what they did was they would give them loans, but

935
00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:24,759
Speaker 3: they would only let them come to the black community

936
00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:30,200
Speaker 3: because rather divide, you understand what I mean. It's almost

937
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:32,000
Speaker 3: like some divide and conquer type shit, you know what

938
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:34,560
Speaker 3: I mean, right, because they got them scared from the

939
00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:36,160
Speaker 3: moment they come over. You think about it, if you

940
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:39,520
Speaker 3: come to a country right where, you probably haven't seen

941
00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:41,680
Speaker 3: very many of these people over here, but everything you

942
00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:44,000
Speaker 3: hear about them is fucked up and bad. So now

943
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:47,320
Speaker 3: you put them in the community, and the truth of

944
00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:49,120
Speaker 3: the matter is a lot of them people in them

945
00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:52,120
Speaker 3: stories don't make a lot of money. You feel what

946
00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:54,560
Speaker 3: I mean. They're being overhead. And I knew when I

947
00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:56,800
Speaker 3: worked in the liquor business, a lot of those people

948
00:48:56,840 --> 00:48:59,160
Speaker 3: lived in their stories. Man. What they would do. They

949
00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:00,840
Speaker 3: would get a family come over. You will see a

950
00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:02,840
Speaker 3: brother come over. He would get a liquor store and

951
00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:04,520
Speaker 3: he would live in the back of that store. Right

952
00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:09,120
Speaker 3: then once he built the store up, he's usually going

953
00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:11,560
Speaker 3: to go buy another one right in the neighborhood. And

954
00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:13,239
Speaker 3: then you would see his brother you coming there the

955
00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:16,920
Speaker 3: next week. Who are you? Yeah, Japanese and Korean people,

956
00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:18,279
Speaker 3: that's all because they ain't all.

957
00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:20,359
Speaker 5: Japanese, but they used to give us like they used

958
00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:21,160
Speaker 5: to give us credit.

959
00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:22,800
Speaker 1: And I don't know about you, but they just didn't

960
00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:23,000
Speaker 1: give you.

961
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:24,080
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying.

962
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:27,880
Speaker 1: They give you credit like in my neighborhood.

963
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:30,440
Speaker 3: You can oh yeah, I think that's nationwide.

964
00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:32,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, they make you could pay next week.

965
00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:35,600
Speaker 5: So it seemed like they had they had front.

966
00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:38,279
Speaker 3: Well, you know what the thing is, because we in

967
00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:42,000
Speaker 3: this weird we in this weird situation kind of together.

968
00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:44,440
Speaker 3: They're trying to survive in the store, right, and they

969
00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:46,520
Speaker 3: know the average person that got any kinpe of success

970
00:49:46,560 --> 00:49:48,000
Speaker 3: in the neighbor but he knows I'm gonna have to

971
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:49,879
Speaker 3: deal with m c A. Aaron when he come in here.

972
00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:51,640
Speaker 3: I'm gonna have to deal with Tyr. And I know

973
00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:54,800
Speaker 3: them and in many cases they've known you for many years.

974
00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:58,239
Speaker 3: You feel what I'm saying. So Grandma, she taking care

975
00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:00,560
Speaker 3: of the kids, right, she might be to go down

976
00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:02,200
Speaker 3: there and get a couple of gallons of milk, some

977
00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:06,360
Speaker 3: eggs and pancakes, you know, some pancake mixed some cereal

978
00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:08,480
Speaker 3: or whatever on credit until you get that one check

979
00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:09,919
Speaker 3: that gotta last through the whole month.

980
00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:14,640
Speaker 1: And see when you in your neighborhood in my neighborhood.

981
00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:16,520
Speaker 1: We end up getting cool with the jazz.

982
00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:18,520
Speaker 5: It's just when you go to another neighbor like when

983
00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:21,120
Speaker 5: you when you're outside and another time, and.

984
00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:22,759
Speaker 3: I gotta correct you a little bit because you be

985
00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:28,160
Speaker 3: seeing them old white people racist words. You didn't mean

986
00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:31,319
Speaker 3: to dog, but everything is so sensitive now. The Japanese people,

987
00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:33,960
Speaker 3: and some of them are Korean. Everybody in Japanese.

988
00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:36,360
Speaker 5: Don't excuse me because I really don't know so that

989
00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:38,800
Speaker 5: it's called instead of Japanese, is called Korean.

990
00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:42,200
Speaker 3: No, No, Korean is Korean is one nationality. You got

991
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:44,920
Speaker 3: jap got people that are from Japan that are indigenous

992
00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:45,360
Speaker 3: to Japan.

993
00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:46,760
Speaker 1: Prejudice.

994
00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:49,680
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Japan is definitely prejudiced. There's definitely prejudice.

995
00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:51,120
Speaker 1: I wouldn't even know that.

996
00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:54,719
Speaker 3: What. No, man, everything is, everything is different. Now. That's

997
00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:56,480
Speaker 3: why I'm telling you, I'll make it my business to

998
00:50:56,480 --> 00:50:58,040
Speaker 3: be you know, I'm a media now, so I make

999
00:50:58,040 --> 00:51:00,320
Speaker 3: it my business and I'm a you know, thank you

1000
00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:06,640
Speaker 3: clean that shit up harm you know. But Korean people

1001
00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:09,120
Speaker 3: are Korean people. They have their own proud, rich hair.

1002
00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:14,080
Speaker 3: It's Japanese people or Japanese. You know, you got Cambodian people,

1003
00:51:14,120 --> 00:51:18,200
Speaker 3: you know, you've got different nationalities. You got different nationalities.

1004
00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:21,400
Speaker 3: So man, you going through this hell of a run.

1005
00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:26,920
Speaker 3: Man you're working and everything back to you felt like

1006
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:30,359
Speaker 3: the phone wouldn't ringing like it should be because you're

1007
00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:31,160
Speaker 3: an excellent actor.

1008
00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:32,680
Speaker 1: I felt like.

1009
00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:38,160
Speaker 5: I felt like after minutes they said, you know, they said,

1010
00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:39,799
Speaker 5: like you're going to be a star. So I just

1011
00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:43,080
Speaker 5: took it literally, I took it for face value, like,

1012
00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:46,120
Speaker 5: you know, if it was if it was another actor,

1013
00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:47,879
Speaker 5: like a white actor or whatever, it would have been.

1014
00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:50,279
Speaker 5: Could you imagine somebody having that kind of hit. So

1015
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:53,120
Speaker 5: I just took it that way. But but it wasn't

1016
00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:53,480
Speaker 5: that way.

1017
00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:55,239
Speaker 3: You think you might have got type cast because you

1018
00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:57,680
Speaker 3: played that role so well. You think they just saw

1019
00:51:57,719 --> 00:52:02,920
Speaker 3: you as the black urban kid from the community. It

1020
00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:03,759
Speaker 3: was kind of like.

1021
00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:11,280
Speaker 4: Because look at all of I mean, Lorenz got rolls

1022
00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:14,240
Speaker 4: and they went back to the well with Lorenz with

1023
00:52:14,239 --> 00:52:19,839
Speaker 4: with dead presidents. So I don't know if that's because.

1024
00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:23,680
Speaker 3: I just they fell they did the brothers did do that.

1025
00:52:24,040 --> 00:52:29,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, they did dead presidents. And then he wasn't type

1026
00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:31,800
Speaker 4: cast as old dogs.

1027
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:33,640
Speaker 3: He had character in the movie.

1028
00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:40,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, he got he got romance rolls and army Vietnam

1029
00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:46,680
Speaker 4: rolls and you know so, but then they come back

1030
00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:50,480
Speaker 4: and they offer you always the hood roles or the

1031
00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:54,439
Speaker 4: or the dope dealer on the corner rolls. And it's

1032
00:52:54,480 --> 00:53:00,960
Speaker 4: crazy because those roles were reversed in minutes because Tyron

1033
00:53:01,160 --> 00:53:05,279
Speaker 4: was the one trying to make the decision if I'm

1034
00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:08,359
Speaker 4: gonna do with a wax and old dog and them

1035
00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:11,560
Speaker 4: is doing or I'm a dude with Grandma on them

1036
00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:16,160
Speaker 4: and the girl is saying that I should before.

1037
00:53:16,160 --> 00:53:19,760
Speaker 3: It's that's why I say he was Kendrick before Kendrick existed.

1038
00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:21,759
Speaker 3: You know, the good kid man sitting right and he

1039
00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:25,319
Speaker 3: is just like not really a gangster, but like not

1040
00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:28,200
Speaker 3: a gang member, but just a dude teetering.

1041
00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:29,879
Speaker 4: Right outside the eggs. You do a little bit here

1042
00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:32,879
Speaker 4: and there, but he's kind of flew up in the neighborhood.

1043
00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:36,320
Speaker 4: Most of your friends are affiliated. Now, you might have

1044
00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:40,360
Speaker 4: not been jumped in yet or claiming the hood, but

1045
00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:44,160
Speaker 4: you best believe you got about three or four or

1046
00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:48,320
Speaker 4: five niggas or homeboys that you went to elementary school

1047
00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:51,880
Speaker 4: with and whatever whatever. Then niggas is full fledged banion

1048
00:53:52,239 --> 00:53:54,640
Speaker 4: and they still considered your friends.

1049
00:53:54,800 --> 00:53:57,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, for real, and Tyring you never got married because

1050
00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:00,319
Speaker 3: woman was on your ass. Dog back then, we an't

1051
00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:00,760
Speaker 3: have women.

1052
00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:11,120
Speaker 4: Man said, we are trying to be niggas said, we

1053
00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:11,960
Speaker 4: all had women.

1054
00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:15,239
Speaker 1: Let me play, so let me, let me let me.

1055
00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:18,400
Speaker 5: I'm gonna tap into the type cast thing, like the

1056
00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:21,960
Speaker 5: type cast situation, right, I don't really care, Like I'm

1057
00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:25,080
Speaker 5: an actor, Like what if I had to play a

1058
00:54:25,120 --> 00:54:27,240
Speaker 5: game bringer a billion times, I'll put him a billion

1059
00:54:27,239 --> 00:54:28,359
Speaker 5: times a different billion ways.

1060
00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:29,600
Speaker 1: I don't really That's like.

1061
00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:33,080
Speaker 5: Saying if Tupac or is he typecast because all he

1062
00:54:33,120 --> 00:54:36,200
Speaker 5: could do, all he do is tell stories about what's

1063
00:54:36,200 --> 00:54:39,160
Speaker 5: going on in his hood or but that don't that

1064
00:54:39,239 --> 00:54:41,839
Speaker 5: that don't matter. I don't think if you look at

1065
00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:46,400
Speaker 5: Robert de Niro, it's about it's about you getting a

1066
00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:49,239
Speaker 5: role and you're doing it. Like even even even even

1067
00:54:49,239 --> 00:54:52,719
Speaker 5: in minutes, I wasn't. I wasn't always. If you look

1068
00:54:52,760 --> 00:54:56,759
Speaker 5: at minutes, I was vulnerable. I cried, I showed it

1069
00:54:56,840 --> 00:54:59,200
Speaker 5: more I didn't. I showed my range. I wasn't just

1070
00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:00,359
Speaker 5: had a gun in my And.

1071
00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:02,200
Speaker 3: Let's not get a twist. It ain't like you ain't

1072
00:55:02,239 --> 00:55:04,840
Speaker 3: working because you just had You just did some stuff for.

1073
00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:07,680
Speaker 5: Fox, right, Oh yeah, yeah, I got my television shows

1074
00:55:07,719 --> 00:55:10,239
Speaker 5: on Fox right now, executive producing on a on a

1075
00:55:10,280 --> 00:55:13,719
Speaker 5: TV show call Alert, you know, so that's behind the scenes.

1076
00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:15,719
Speaker 5: So no, it's not about me not working. We just

1077
00:55:16,040 --> 00:55:18,840
Speaker 5: we're just talking about we're just keeping it real right now.

1078
00:55:18,760 --> 00:55:21,160
Speaker 3: Like, yeah, because you should be having more FaceTime on

1079
00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:23,400
Speaker 3: the camera. The first when I start hanging around Eight,

1080
00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:25,440
Speaker 3: the first thing I asked him because I said, man,

1081
00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:27,320
Speaker 3: you was doing some hell of her. Then I found

1082
00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:31,000
Speaker 3: out later on he really wasn't acting, you know, but

1083
00:55:31,480 --> 00:55:33,359
Speaker 3: you should have had more roles. And then it comes

1084
00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:35,959
Speaker 3: you know, eight should have had more roles. You should

1085
00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:38,560
Speaker 3: have been because I was expecting you to go to

1086
00:55:38,640 --> 00:55:41,839
Speaker 3: that like but that Leonardo DiCaprio level.

1087
00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:44,839
Speaker 1: Damn that but that But that that's life, man. Life

1088
00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:48,960
Speaker 1: is just real, Like it ain't. It's like life. Life

1089
00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:50,759
Speaker 1: is just life is just real, Like you know what

1090
00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:53,200
Speaker 1: I mean. So you just gotta you can't you can't.

1091
00:55:53,560 --> 00:55:56,360
Speaker 5: I'm healthy, we breathing, We still hear, like, you know,

1092
00:55:57,040 --> 00:55:59,800
Speaker 5: there's a lot of I'm just I'm fortunate.

1093
00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:02,600
Speaker 1: Even with Belly, I was supposed.

1094
00:56:02,239 --> 00:56:03,719
Speaker 5: To be the lead character, you know, but it was

1095
00:56:03,760 --> 00:56:06,000
Speaker 5: meant for dm X because DMX wasn't gonna be here

1096
00:56:06,080 --> 00:56:08,160
Speaker 5: that long, and God wanted that for him.

1097
00:56:08,239 --> 00:56:10,400
Speaker 1: That was his thing for him to have at that moment,

1098
00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:10,879
Speaker 1: you know what I mean?

1099
00:56:11,520 --> 00:56:15,280
Speaker 5: You know, so you have to you just have to understand,

1100
00:56:15,400 --> 00:56:19,000
Speaker 5: like people like Michael Jackson he died at fifty, were

1101
00:56:19,040 --> 00:56:21,440
Speaker 5: still here, right, he probably would give anything just to

1102
00:56:21,520 --> 00:56:25,960
Speaker 5: have a subway sandwich. So I'm just happy that me

1103
00:56:26,640 --> 00:56:29,160
Speaker 5: and we're still here. Like, as long as we're here still,

1104
00:56:29,239 --> 00:56:32,840
Speaker 5: we still got opportunities. And we don't know why things

1105
00:56:32,920 --> 00:56:33,759
Speaker 5: happen the way they do.

1106
00:56:34,160 --> 00:56:34,759
Speaker 1: You just don't know.

1107
00:56:35,080 --> 00:56:37,960
Speaker 4: I look at it like, and this is something like

1108
00:56:38,080 --> 00:56:43,239
Speaker 4: I tell my son because and this is with with

1109
00:56:43,719 --> 00:56:52,520
Speaker 4: any profession, it's that it's that uh, that's saying you

1110
00:56:52,680 --> 00:56:55,880
Speaker 4: take the high road, I'll take the low road. Uh,

1111
00:56:56,640 --> 00:56:59,720
Speaker 4: And somebody gonna be there before the next person.

1112
00:56:59,840 --> 00:56:59,920
Speaker 3: Right.

1113
00:57:01,800 --> 00:57:05,000
Speaker 4: Never said you wasn't gonna get there, just said it

1114
00:57:05,080 --> 00:57:07,440
Speaker 4: was gonna take you longer because you taking the lower

1115
00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:10,040
Speaker 4: You feel me, So I try to tell that to

1116
00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:16,440
Speaker 4: my son, and I even tell it to myself. It's

1117
00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:20,960
Speaker 4: motherfuckers who can come in today, tomorrow, the overnight success.

1118
00:57:22,080 --> 00:57:25,000
Speaker 4: You've been doing this shit for fifteen years and you

1119
00:57:25,200 --> 00:57:28,000
Speaker 4: be like God damn, But then if you.

1120
00:57:28,120 --> 00:57:31,840
Speaker 3: Look up, you're still on that same road.

1121
00:57:32,080 --> 00:57:35,520
Speaker 4: You get me nothing, it's just been you even had

1122
00:57:35,560 --> 00:57:40,000
Speaker 4: a boulder in your path, or motherfucking your tire was flat,

1123
00:57:40,520 --> 00:57:42,880
Speaker 4: or motherfucker you had to get a new engine put

1124
00:57:42,960 --> 00:57:47,400
Speaker 4: in the car. But if you look up, you're still

1125
00:57:47,640 --> 00:57:52,600
Speaker 4: on the same road. It's not to the point to

1126
00:57:52,720 --> 00:57:57,160
Speaker 4: where it just ain't you get me? Oh, motherfucker, you

1127
00:57:57,240 --> 00:57:59,520
Speaker 4: might as well go junk this car or you're never

1128
00:57:59,680 --> 00:58:03,480
Speaker 4: gonna Nobody told you you get me. Nigga, I'm still

1129
00:58:03,640 --> 00:58:07,360
Speaker 4: rolling you get me, and it's not to where. Like

1130
00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:10,440
Speaker 4: I said, you donet hit them too many. Motherfucking nigga.

1131
00:58:10,440 --> 00:58:13,040
Speaker 4: If you you on that road, still you on that road.

1132
00:58:13,360 --> 00:58:16,160
Speaker 4: And as long as you still breathing and you still

1133
00:58:16,280 --> 00:58:20,840
Speaker 4: can work, you still going there. You feel me, You

1134
00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:24,160
Speaker 4: still going there. You might look up fifteen years from now,

1135
00:58:24,240 --> 00:58:28,200
Speaker 4: you just now pulling into that motherfucker spot like god damn,

1136
00:58:28,320 --> 00:58:31,880
Speaker 4: it took me long to get here. But so I

1137
00:58:32,000 --> 00:58:33,840
Speaker 4: tell that's why I tell my son, don't this.

1138
00:58:34,160 --> 00:58:34,400
Speaker 3: You know.

1139
00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:38,120
Speaker 4: A nigga put out a record today and tomorrow he

1140
00:58:38,160 --> 00:58:39,560
Speaker 4: don sold ten million copies.

1141
00:58:40,400 --> 00:58:43,600
Speaker 3: It might take you ten years to sell ten copies

1142
00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:47,000
Speaker 3: that dude might not be around in two or three years.

1143
00:58:47,520 --> 00:58:52,160
Speaker 4: That's how it works sometimes. So I appreciate, appreciate the

1144
00:58:52,320 --> 00:58:55,600
Speaker 4: position and the opportunity.

1145
00:58:55,680 --> 00:58:57,840
Speaker 3: If you got it still, you get me.

1146
00:58:58,720 --> 00:59:01,800
Speaker 4: Ain't a motherfucker, ain't buried you underground and you got

1147
00:59:01,920 --> 00:59:06,320
Speaker 4: a headstone. Motherfucker, you're still here. So if you could

1148
00:59:06,680 --> 00:59:09,760
Speaker 4: come compete, compete, Nobody telling you you can't.

1149
00:59:10,480 --> 00:59:10,919
Speaker 3: You don't.

1150
00:59:11,440 --> 00:59:14,360
Speaker 4: Motherfuckers be with the age ship sometime or you this,

1151
00:59:14,600 --> 00:59:19,240
Speaker 4: or nigga, please, I still can motherfucking act circles around

1152
00:59:19,280 --> 00:59:21,360
Speaker 4: and nigganna rap around the motherfucker.

1153
00:59:21,360 --> 00:59:24,320
Speaker 3: If I needed to, you get me. So that's what

1154
00:59:24,440 --> 00:59:26,960
Speaker 3: I always say, and like and like Tyron said, Man,

1155
00:59:27,000 --> 00:59:29,360
Speaker 3: they ain't like motherfucker's on their death bed dogs.

1156
00:59:29,400 --> 00:59:31,840
Speaker 4: So it's like you just told you you're still in

1157
00:59:31,920 --> 00:59:34,240
Speaker 4: the car. You got a flatter to her, but you

1158
00:59:34,320 --> 00:59:37,960
Speaker 4: got a spur on the trunk the nigga. Let's roll

1159
00:59:38,480 --> 00:59:41,320
Speaker 4: roll up some motherfucker weed. Nigga, let's get back over

1160
00:59:41,400 --> 00:59:42,200
Speaker 4: the road, NIGGI.

1161
00:59:42,320 --> 00:59:45,200
Speaker 3: Man, he was clowning earlier when you first came in. Man,

1162
00:59:45,240 --> 00:59:48,520
Speaker 3: you've been making your rounds. Man, you're starting to beat man.

1163
00:59:48,640 --> 00:59:52,400
Speaker 3: One of the most sought after the Cats online for interviews.

1164
00:59:52,480 --> 00:59:55,479
Speaker 1: Man, I think, I think, I just I think people

1165
00:59:55,600 --> 00:59:59,280
Speaker 1: like my My My approach is kind of honest. Yeah,

1166
00:59:59,720 --> 01:00:02,720
Speaker 1: it's I'm messy. I just tell the truth the way

1167
01:00:02,760 --> 01:00:04,280
Speaker 1: that I see you say the truth.

1168
01:00:04,320 --> 01:00:08,919
Speaker 3: So let me ask you a question with women, man,

1169
01:00:09,120 --> 01:00:11,400
Speaker 3: and you don't have to say who if if you

1170
01:00:11,520 --> 01:00:14,040
Speaker 3: had one of them Hollywood's moments man, with one of

1171
01:00:14,080 --> 01:00:17,280
Speaker 3: them starlets. Man, you was fantasizing the bar before you

1172
01:00:17,400 --> 01:00:19,320
Speaker 3: got on and you had her in your bed, and

1173
01:00:19,360 --> 01:00:21,200
Speaker 3: he was like, damn, I'm about to knock this down.

1174
01:00:21,320 --> 01:00:22,400
Speaker 3: Have you ever had that moment?

1175
01:00:23,560 --> 01:00:25,840
Speaker 1: I've had fantasies about women, you know, I'm not.

1176
01:00:25,920 --> 01:00:26,480
Speaker 3: Talking about.

1177
01:00:28,160 --> 01:00:31,360
Speaker 4: If they always wanted to know some woman some sexual

1178
01:00:31,600 --> 01:00:35,120
Speaker 4: shit like he always want to know some sexual.

1179
01:00:34,800 --> 01:00:36,880
Speaker 3: Ship still get off.

1180
01:00:38,440 --> 01:00:41,240
Speaker 4: Hey, man, I think when I first came on the show,

1181
01:00:41,320 --> 01:00:43,400
Speaker 4: he was, hey, man, you know you did all that

1182
01:00:43,720 --> 01:00:44,680
Speaker 4: rapping and acting.

1183
01:00:45,000 --> 01:00:48,520
Speaker 3: You ain't never met one of them celebrities. You that celebrity.

1184
01:00:48,560 --> 01:00:50,360
Speaker 3: You ain't never had no celebrity. Don't tell you what

1185
01:00:51,640 --> 01:00:53,920
Speaker 3: I don't. You don't kiss and tell.

1186
01:00:53,920 --> 01:00:56,640
Speaker 5: You can't and tell man, you know, and I'm not

1187
01:00:56,800 --> 01:00:59,920
Speaker 5: really into like celebrity female. I like, I just like

1188
01:01:00,560 --> 01:01:02,680
Speaker 5: women like I I see a woman at the bus

1189
01:01:02,680 --> 01:01:03,920
Speaker 5: stop and putting and busting you.

1190
01:01:04,320 --> 01:01:07,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what, that's a question. Do you find

1191
01:01:07,240 --> 01:01:12,400
Speaker 3: it easier having relationships with regular like women outside the

1192
01:01:12,520 --> 01:01:13,320
Speaker 3: entertainment industry?

1193
01:01:14,760 --> 01:01:15,320
Speaker 1: I just don't.

1194
01:01:15,480 --> 01:01:18,800
Speaker 5: Like I've always felt like I would like to date

1195
01:01:18,880 --> 01:01:21,280
Speaker 5: a woman that I could show her something more like

1196
01:01:21,400 --> 01:01:23,440
Speaker 5: if you if I was to day somebody like a.

1197
01:01:25,200 --> 01:01:27,960
Speaker 1: Like a celebrity, like what can what can you? What

1198
01:01:28,480 --> 01:01:31,320
Speaker 1: can make her smile? She already been seeing every everything.

1199
01:01:31,720 --> 01:01:33,600
Speaker 5: But if you take somebody that ain't never seen nothing,

1200
01:01:33,640 --> 01:01:35,400
Speaker 5: you'd be like, oh, we're gonna go to Hawaii or

1201
01:01:36,120 --> 01:01:39,320
Speaker 5: they were like, oh my god, it's it's like something,

1202
01:01:39,720 --> 01:01:40,240
Speaker 5: it's something.

1203
01:01:40,680 --> 01:01:44,560
Speaker 3: Yeah. People gotta be able to appreciate, you know, there's nothing.

1204
01:01:44,680 --> 01:01:47,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, there's nothing I could do to make Beyonce or

1205
01:01:47,960 --> 01:01:50,120
Speaker 5: someone somebody of that caliber appreciates them.

1206
01:01:50,160 --> 01:01:50,760
Speaker 3: What I'm what?

1207
01:01:51,160 --> 01:01:53,160
Speaker 1: What can I get a bunch of some buccie flip

1208
01:01:53,200 --> 01:01:53,720
Speaker 1: floppers up?

1209
01:01:53,800 --> 01:01:56,360
Speaker 3: Like it's like that's the thing she never got divorced

1210
01:01:57,640 --> 01:01:58,200
Speaker 3: the hard time.

1211
01:01:58,320 --> 01:02:00,680
Speaker 4: It's like it's like the saying, and what can I

1212
01:02:00,840 --> 01:02:03,240
Speaker 4: get a motherfucker who already got everything?

1213
01:02:03,640 --> 01:02:05,760
Speaker 3: You get me? That's real? So Okay, there we go.

1214
01:02:05,880 --> 01:02:08,800
Speaker 1: You like square women, yeah, I like I like colored

1215
01:02:09,160 --> 01:02:11,160
Speaker 1: I like square women. You know, I don't. I don't

1216
01:02:11,200 --> 01:02:13,200
Speaker 1: mind a woman not having something for itself. Like I'm

1217
01:02:13,240 --> 01:02:14,520
Speaker 1: not a trick or that. You know what I mean.

1218
01:02:14,640 --> 01:02:14,960
Speaker 1: Ain't that?

1219
01:02:15,560 --> 01:02:18,480
Speaker 5: You know a woman can have a job and and

1220
01:02:18,640 --> 01:02:21,160
Speaker 5: and and do something for a person. You know, I'm

1221
01:02:21,200 --> 01:02:22,760
Speaker 5: not driving out, but I'll do the same thing.

1222
01:02:22,880 --> 01:02:26,240
Speaker 1: But I'm not. I don't have to have no I don't.

1223
01:02:26,240 --> 01:02:28,080
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna. I don't have to be with no

1224
01:02:28,200 --> 01:02:29,280
Speaker 1: star woman like I don't.

1225
01:02:29,560 --> 01:02:29,880
Speaker 4: I don't.

1226
01:02:29,960 --> 01:02:32,080
Speaker 1: That don't make me feel comfortable, like, oh, I'm with

1227
01:02:33,040 --> 01:02:34,600
Speaker 1: you know, somebody of that caliber, Like.

1228
01:02:36,160 --> 01:02:38,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, man, and I hear about a new fight that

1229
01:02:38,320 --> 01:02:40,640
Speaker 3: you don't have all the time. I'll be watching your interviews. Dog,

1230
01:02:40,680 --> 01:02:43,520
Speaker 3: I'll be laughing like a motherfucker. I saw some ship

1231
01:02:43,560 --> 01:02:45,360
Speaker 3: that says you beat up Casey and jokes you at

1232
01:02:45,360 --> 01:02:46,000
Speaker 3: the same time.

1233
01:02:46,240 --> 01:02:51,240
Speaker 1: I never, I never, I've never in my mind.

1234
01:02:52,720 --> 01:02:55,560
Speaker 3: I said some ship about you and Trey d Wrestling.

1235
01:02:55,760 --> 01:02:59,160
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, trad we we was at Snoop House and

1236
01:02:59,280 --> 01:03:02,400
Speaker 1: we was a so hey, you know back in you

1237
01:03:02,480 --> 01:03:04,840
Speaker 1: know you go body, you slap box.

1238
01:03:04,880 --> 01:03:06,280
Speaker 3: You know that definitely.

1239
01:03:06,400 --> 01:03:09,320
Speaker 1: So at Snoop House, you know, you gotta you gotta

1240
01:03:09,400 --> 01:03:09,880
Speaker 1: do some things.

1241
01:03:09,920 --> 01:03:12,160
Speaker 5: But we all out there, you know, everybody slap boxing

1242
01:03:12,280 --> 01:03:14,560
Speaker 5: or whatever that whatever it is, it's all in fun.

1243
01:03:14,640 --> 01:03:16,880
Speaker 5: It's all ain't nobody it ain't nothing real about it.

1244
01:03:17,280 --> 01:03:19,840
Speaker 5: And so then uh me and Trady, you know, we

1245
01:03:20,040 --> 01:03:22,080
Speaker 5: just we got down on on some on some on

1246
01:03:22,200 --> 01:03:25,640
Speaker 5: some wrestle you know, playing you know what I mean.

1247
01:03:25,920 --> 01:03:29,680
Speaker 3: It was, yeah you wrestled before, Yeah, like we see

1248
01:03:29,720 --> 01:03:32,040
Speaker 3: it ain't if you do that because I wrestled. So

1249
01:03:32,280 --> 01:03:34,760
Speaker 3: if you a dude that actually wrestled, man, it's not

1250
01:03:34,920 --> 01:03:36,960
Speaker 3: fair wrestling dude that ain't never wrestled before. You go

1251
01:03:37,040 --> 01:03:39,480
Speaker 3: get the vantage. You get to take advantage of them

1252
01:03:39,480 --> 01:03:39,800
Speaker 3: a little bit.

1253
01:03:39,920 --> 01:03:41,720
Speaker 5: It's all about balance and all that kind of stuff.

1254
01:03:41,720 --> 01:03:43,360
Speaker 5: But now trad D is like, you know, trad D

1255
01:03:43,920 --> 01:03:46,800
Speaker 5: is the homie like he real he you know, he

1256
01:03:46,840 --> 01:03:49,920
Speaker 5: ain't no ego. Like if you if you if you're strong,

1257
01:03:50,000 --> 01:03:52,520
Speaker 5: you're gonna tell you he tripping like that.

1258
01:03:53,040 --> 01:03:57,200
Speaker 3: Like I wonder what's up with these people in them titles? Man?

1259
01:03:57,440 --> 01:04:00,440
Speaker 3: Like this Internet is motherfuck.

1260
01:04:00,920 --> 01:04:03,080
Speaker 4: That's just because you just have to watch, you know,

1261
01:04:03,240 --> 01:04:07,480
Speaker 4: because like you, like I say every time. The main

1262
01:04:07,600 --> 01:04:11,520
Speaker 4: thing is content and it's not about truth or lie.

1263
01:04:12,120 --> 01:04:15,360
Speaker 4: It's just about getting the story out there and let

1264
01:04:15,480 --> 01:04:20,479
Speaker 4: people decipher their own decision. Dog, these motherfuckers is lying.

1265
01:04:21,120 --> 01:04:23,520
Speaker 4: Dog motherfuckers say. And that's like I said, that's what

1266
01:04:23,640 --> 01:04:26,440
Speaker 4: people do to develop content. I gotta get you to

1267
01:04:26,520 --> 01:04:29,440
Speaker 4: come to my site or my channel or my page.

1268
01:04:30,000 --> 01:04:35,280
Speaker 4: So I mean, like, there's not too many people who

1269
01:04:35,440 --> 01:04:38,360
Speaker 4: gonna go around like, oh you lie, I'm gonna sue you.

1270
01:04:38,560 --> 01:04:41,520
Speaker 4: You know, that's for the upper you know, motherfuckers who

1271
01:04:41,600 --> 01:04:44,640
Speaker 4: feel like they were to a regular nigga, nigga, that

1272
01:04:44,800 --> 01:04:47,720
Speaker 4: nigga liing, and it's not gonna do anything. It's not

1273
01:04:47,800 --> 01:04:50,640
Speaker 4: gonna affect me because it's a lie. And most of

1274
01:04:50,720 --> 01:04:53,320
Speaker 4: the time, if you let the ship die out and

1275
01:04:53,520 --> 01:04:56,200
Speaker 4: die out faster than its start, and when you keep

1276
01:04:56,280 --> 01:04:57,840
Speaker 4: adding fuel to the fucking.

1277
01:04:57,600 --> 01:05:00,760
Speaker 3: Fire, then you don't take it. You got to leave

1278
01:05:00,760 --> 01:05:01,080
Speaker 3: it alone.

1279
01:05:02,840 --> 01:05:05,600
Speaker 4: You're gonna take a campfire to a brush fire, nigga

1280
01:05:05,600 --> 01:05:08,480
Speaker 4: if you just keep adding fuel to it. So most

1281
01:05:08,520 --> 01:05:11,200
Speaker 4: of the time, if you just let that motherfucker die out,

1282
01:05:11,440 --> 01:05:13,200
Speaker 4: so it's gonna die itself out.

1283
01:05:13,840 --> 01:05:14,240
Speaker 5: Mm hmm.

1284
01:05:14,920 --> 01:05:18,760
Speaker 3: Man, So what's next for Tyran Turner, Man, what's next.

1285
01:05:19,040 --> 01:05:21,880
Speaker 5: Basically just I'm more on the creative side, man, trying

1286
01:05:21,880 --> 01:05:24,920
Speaker 5: to create my own, my own stuff, like my own

1287
01:05:25,000 --> 01:05:27,000
Speaker 5: TV show, put myself on my own stuff. You know

1288
01:05:27,040 --> 01:05:29,600
Speaker 5: what I mean, I don't necessarily I want to. I

1289
01:05:29,680 --> 01:05:33,000
Speaker 5: want to hustle in every aspect of it. I'll if

1290
01:05:33,080 --> 01:05:34,960
Speaker 5: some offers come, I'll do that. If I have to

1291
01:05:36,240 --> 01:05:41,000
Speaker 5: meet and take meetings for for for movies or television, whatever, I.

1292
01:05:41,000 --> 01:05:41,320
Speaker 1: Would do it.

1293
01:05:41,360 --> 01:05:43,360
Speaker 5: I'm just hustle all the way around the board. But

1294
01:05:43,560 --> 01:05:46,480
Speaker 5: my main focus is just creating myself.

1295
01:05:46,760 --> 01:05:48,600
Speaker 3: You know. Yeah, I know, we got some things that

1296
01:05:48,720 --> 01:05:51,240
Speaker 3: we go start working on, Like I told you, just

1297
01:05:51,320 --> 01:05:54,760
Speaker 3: a few books that I've recently acquired the rights to

1298
01:05:55,280 --> 01:05:57,800
Speaker 3: work with that and putting that situation together. Then we

1299
01:05:57,920 --> 01:06:01,919
Speaker 3: got a series I'm real excited about, man, that's gonna

1300
01:06:01,960 --> 01:06:04,360
Speaker 3: be starring MC eight. And then you know, I'm talking

1301
01:06:04,520 --> 01:06:06,360
Speaker 3: like real earlier about it, but I'm talking to some

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01:06:07,640 --> 01:06:09,520
Speaker 3: I mean, like, you know, you get to that second

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01:06:09,560 --> 01:06:11,320
Speaker 3: stage and where you talk about getting the funding for

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01:06:11,400 --> 01:06:13,920
Speaker 3: stuff and all that. So I'm real excited about that

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01:06:14,040 --> 01:06:15,640
Speaker 3: because it's gonna be able to put him in a

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01:06:15,680 --> 01:06:18,800
Speaker 3: different light but in the same light that people used

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01:06:18,840 --> 01:06:21,040
Speaker 3: to seeing them just another side of it. You feel

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Speaker 3: what I mean, And I think that's gonna be dope.

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01:06:23,280 --> 01:06:25,120
Speaker 3: Manca's a lot of people don't know that you direct

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Speaker 3: and everything too. Yeah. I love that.

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Speaker 5: Yep, I understand what I want. I see the vision

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Speaker 5: and I would you know, that's one of my one

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Speaker 5: of the things I want to do.

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Speaker 1: See. At first, when you get in the business, you're like, well,

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01:06:35,160 --> 01:06:36,600
Speaker 1: I just want to be an actor. Then you learned

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01:06:36,600 --> 01:06:38,760
Speaker 1: this shit, You're like, man, I'm a fucking filmmaker.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you've been around and never Yeah, the way you

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01:06:42,840 --> 01:06:44,200
Speaker 3: know at least what it's supposed to look like, and

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01:06:44,280 --> 01:06:46,360
Speaker 3: you work with the best. Let me ask you this,

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01:06:47,040 --> 01:06:48,800
Speaker 3: we in the day and the time, man, that where

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01:06:48,920 --> 01:06:53,200
Speaker 3: really when I see actors and actresses online that have had,

1322
01:06:53,280 --> 01:06:55,880
Speaker 3: you know, a certain amount of notoriety and success talk about,

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01:06:56,160 --> 01:06:57,960
Speaker 3: oh I'm not getting no parts, I'm like, you could

1324
01:06:57,960 --> 01:07:00,440
Speaker 3: go put your own movies out. I would if I

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01:07:00,520 --> 01:07:03,920
Speaker 3: had a certain level of infamy. If I was you know,

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01:07:03,960 --> 01:07:05,720
Speaker 3: I had a certain level of status and I was

1327
01:07:05,760 --> 01:07:08,760
Speaker 3: an actor actress, I wouldn't be tripping on nobody. And

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01:07:08,800 --> 01:07:10,840
Speaker 3: I give me I'm gonna produce my own stuff. You

1329
01:07:10,840 --> 01:07:18,200
Speaker 3: can go directly. You got sites like to be Amazon, Prime, Peacock,

1330
01:07:18,800 --> 01:07:21,800
Speaker 3: you have all these different opportunities and outlets. You can

1331
01:07:21,840 --> 01:07:22,720
Speaker 3: go do your own thing.

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Speaker 5: Now, Okay, Well it's kind of like this, like it's

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01:07:27,200 --> 01:07:29,600
Speaker 5: easier said to done. Like some people are just used

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01:07:29,600 --> 01:07:32,680
Speaker 5: to the way things are. Like I'm like when people

1335
01:07:32,760 --> 01:07:34,280
Speaker 5: be telling me that stuff, I'll be like, I'm just

1336
01:07:34,440 --> 01:07:37,760
Speaker 5: used to the studio. I'm used to like you so

1337
01:07:37,920 --> 01:07:39,640
Speaker 5: familiar with it, Like nobody want to just lear I

1338
01:07:39,680 --> 01:07:41,160
Speaker 5: don't want to go straight to DVD or I don't

1339
01:07:41,160 --> 01:07:43,200
Speaker 5: want to go to to be like we're so used

1340
01:07:43,200 --> 01:07:46,920
Speaker 5: to just kind of like the system of how it's supposed.

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01:07:46,480 --> 01:07:49,840
Speaker 3: To that regular that regular machine.

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01:07:50,120 --> 01:07:51,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, regular machine.

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01:07:51,600 --> 01:07:54,280
Speaker 4: A lot of stuff you have to you just have

1344
01:07:54,400 --> 01:07:56,560
Speaker 4: to jump out there and try this ship and then

1345
01:07:57,240 --> 01:08:01,360
Speaker 4: usually that's how SURE becomes successful when you take that chance.

1346
01:08:01,480 --> 01:08:03,840
Speaker 4: You know, if you don't want to take that chance,

1347
01:08:03,920 --> 01:08:06,120
Speaker 4: then you're probably gonna be sitting where you were sitting

1348
01:08:06,200 --> 01:08:06,800
Speaker 4: and begin with.

1349
01:08:07,360 --> 01:08:09,240
Speaker 3: Man, I gotta give a lot of love to the

1350
01:08:09,360 --> 01:08:13,400
Speaker 3: homies and Detroit, Michigan. Sorry to cut you off, Dennis Reed.

1351
01:08:15,560 --> 01:08:20,800
Speaker 3: The murder painct out there Detroit is not exactly Hollywood.

1352
01:08:21,000 --> 01:08:23,280
Speaker 3: They've created they thing. I was talking to one of

1353
01:08:23,280 --> 01:08:25,840
Speaker 3: the homie shots of The Twins Man, but they was

1354
01:08:25,880 --> 01:08:30,240
Speaker 3: telling me that Detroit looked like it was in the nineties.

1355
01:08:30,320 --> 01:08:32,240
Speaker 3: Now in the eighties, you know, Cats is really out

1356
01:08:32,280 --> 01:08:36,320
Speaker 3: there getting to it into their bag. Independent films have

1357
01:08:36,479 --> 01:08:39,520
Speaker 3: done so well in Detroit and his mass to change neighborhoods.

1358
01:08:39,560 --> 01:08:42,640
Speaker 3: You got brothers out there rejuvenating the whole block. Now

1359
01:08:42,640 --> 01:08:44,760
Speaker 3: they buying up all the old houses on the block.

1360
01:08:44,800 --> 01:08:47,479
Speaker 3: There used to be crack spots and they're rebuilding them.

1361
01:08:47,560 --> 01:08:49,400
Speaker 3: Stuff like that. Man, It's real dope, and it's a

1362
01:08:49,439 --> 01:08:51,240
Speaker 3: lot of opportunity out there. There's a lot of money

1363
01:08:51,280 --> 01:08:54,120
Speaker 3: out there, dog, And I think when you got people

1364
01:08:54,200 --> 01:08:56,880
Speaker 3: such as yourself with your pedigree, I think you could

1365
01:08:56,920 --> 01:08:58,320
Speaker 3: do very well in that space. Bro.

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01:08:59,400 --> 01:09:02,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, so too, Like I'm definitely gonna I'm definitely gonna

1367
01:09:03,760 --> 01:09:04,040
Speaker 5: take it.

1368
01:09:04,240 --> 01:09:05,599
Speaker 1: Take my crack at it, you know what I mean.

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01:09:07,120 --> 01:09:09,640
Speaker 5: It's like kind of like you you probably understand how

1370
01:09:09,680 --> 01:09:14,280
Speaker 5: to do independent music or whatever, but there was one

1371
01:09:14,280 --> 01:09:16,120
Speaker 5: point where you kind of knew what it was like

1372
01:09:16,600 --> 01:09:18,040
Speaker 5: my label.

1373
01:09:17,800 --> 01:09:19,600
Speaker 1: Taking taking care of it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it was you in that A lot of people

1375
01:09:22,680 --> 01:09:25,800
Speaker 4: were skeptical, but like I said, at one at one

1376
01:09:25,920 --> 01:09:30,680
Speaker 4: point you have to uh just take a chance. And

1377
01:09:31,040 --> 01:09:35,720
Speaker 4: uh that's what basically, you know, is how you continue

1378
01:09:35,800 --> 01:09:38,240
Speaker 4: your career or whatever, because at one point in time

1379
01:09:38,760 --> 01:09:42,760
Speaker 4: you're gonna get cut or fired or laid off, or

1380
01:09:43,560 --> 01:09:47,120
Speaker 4: we're gonna go in a different direction. And it's all business,

1381
01:09:47,439 --> 01:09:50,040
Speaker 4: you get me. You can't look at shit personal. So

1382
01:09:50,880 --> 01:09:53,599
Speaker 4: you gotta be you gotta be ready for the next chapter.

1383
01:09:54,320 --> 01:09:58,679
Speaker 3: That's all. That's all. If if you have the business

1384
01:09:58,880 --> 01:09:59,439
Speaker 3: mind and.

1385
01:10:01,960 --> 01:10:05,320
Speaker 4: Just the willingness and time, then you know, just got

1386
01:10:05,400 --> 01:10:08,479
Speaker 4: to put forth that effort and take that plungs, you know,

1387
01:10:09,120 --> 01:10:12,400
Speaker 4: do that bungee jump, you know, just take that chance,

1388
01:10:12,520 --> 01:10:14,479
Speaker 4: and then that's how shit pay off for you.

1389
01:10:14,640 --> 01:10:14,800
Speaker 3: Man.

1390
01:10:15,120 --> 01:10:17,200
Speaker 1: Just my question that you ate. Do you have like

1391
01:10:17,360 --> 01:10:20,600
Speaker 1: do you actually have a favorite song that you recorded on?

1392
01:10:20,880 --> 01:10:20,920
Speaker 5: No?

1393
01:10:22,520 --> 01:10:27,080
Speaker 4: I like everything I do, whether it's you know, whether

1394
01:10:27,160 --> 01:10:30,120
Speaker 4: it's the more popular shit for the people, or it's

1395
01:10:30,200 --> 01:10:33,479
Speaker 4: whether it's something personal. I just try to put pride

1396
01:10:33,560 --> 01:10:37,600
Speaker 4: in there whatever I write, you know, because it's for

1397
01:10:37,760 --> 01:10:40,800
Speaker 4: the people and people spending their money or the time

1398
01:10:40,920 --> 01:10:43,839
Speaker 4: to listen to it. So I try not to deliver

1399
01:10:44,000 --> 01:10:45,360
Speaker 4: no bullshit, you know.

1400
01:10:45,680 --> 01:10:48,960
Speaker 3: So yeah, I think, Man, going back to what you

1401
01:10:49,080 --> 01:10:52,920
Speaker 3: said earlier, I see this a lot. Man. Me being

1402
01:10:53,000 --> 01:10:55,880
Speaker 3: in management, certain guys that were used to being on

1403
01:10:56,040 --> 01:10:58,840
Speaker 3: labels and a label taking care of everything. Like they

1404
01:10:59,040 --> 01:11:02,280
Speaker 3: like going fresh frunt and everything is already taken care of.

1405
01:11:02,800 --> 01:11:04,720
Speaker 3: They don't have to call nobody, don't have to set

1406
01:11:04,840 --> 01:11:07,479
Speaker 3: nothing up. They like going to the studio. Everything is

1407
01:11:07,560 --> 01:11:10,880
Speaker 3: taking care of already. I think when you already used

1408
01:11:10,960 --> 01:11:14,200
Speaker 3: to every opportunity I've ever got, I kind of have to.

1409
01:11:14,960 --> 01:11:18,080
Speaker 3: It was all through my own dime. You feel what

1410
01:11:18,120 --> 01:11:20,960
Speaker 3: I'm saying. So I've always bettered on myself and been like,

1411
01:11:21,000 --> 01:11:22,679
Speaker 3: you know what, I'm gonna go do this. If it works,

1412
01:11:23,160 --> 01:11:25,600
Speaker 3: I'll reap the benefits. If it don't work, back to

1413
01:11:25,640 --> 01:11:28,800
Speaker 3: the drawing board to go do something else. Man, I'm

1414
01:11:28,880 --> 01:11:30,679
Speaker 3: finally glad to get you on here. Man, I'm glad

1415
01:11:30,720 --> 01:11:34,000
Speaker 3: we finally got you on here. Is you the hommy?

1416
01:11:34,080 --> 01:11:36,920
Speaker 3: I said, Man, I got tired of people hitting me up? Man,

1417
01:11:36,960 --> 01:11:39,040
Speaker 3: can you step me up with tiring? I said, I'm

1418
01:11:39,040 --> 01:11:41,360
Speaker 3: gonna need to get him on my show. Man, y'all

1419
01:11:41,560 --> 01:11:44,679
Speaker 3: have to wait now, for sure. I had to wait. Man.

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01:11:46,960 --> 01:11:50,360
Speaker 4: Now my son is in college right now playing football. Yeah,

1421
01:11:51,400 --> 01:11:55,200
Speaker 4: he's quarterback. So he's at home right now for spring break.

1422
01:11:55,240 --> 01:11:56,960
Speaker 4: I'm trying to get to the house right now.

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01:11:57,880 --> 01:12:03,880
Speaker 3: Quarter he he's uh six feet and he got wheels too.

1424
01:12:04,640 --> 01:12:10,599
Speaker 4: Yeah, threat quarterback. So he's a three star. He's been

1425
01:12:10,680 --> 01:12:15,280
Speaker 4: playing this game since he was five, so he's determined

1426
01:12:15,439 --> 01:12:17,760
Speaker 4: to make something out of it. But just the fact

1427
01:12:17,800 --> 01:12:21,519
Speaker 4: that he's able to go to college. He's at a

1428
01:12:21,560 --> 01:12:23,559
Speaker 4: D one f c S school, so.

1429
01:12:24,960 --> 01:12:27,599
Speaker 3: He loves it. So it is what it is. Dreams

1430
01:12:27,640 --> 01:12:28,160
Speaker 3: coming true.

1431
01:12:28,280 --> 01:12:30,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's all we try to do. Make it better

1432
01:12:30,400 --> 01:12:33,240
Speaker 4: for the kids and give him, you know, a different position.

1433
01:12:33,640 --> 01:12:36,920
Speaker 4: How many kids you got twins?

1434
01:12:37,400 --> 01:12:43,240
Speaker 3: Twins? See, Tyrant is a consummate Baxter Man. Yeah, yay.

1435
01:12:43,720 --> 01:12:46,519
Speaker 3: You ever see yourself getting married? I don't want to

1436
01:12:46,520 --> 01:12:48,240
Speaker 3: get married, right.

1437
01:12:48,439 --> 01:12:50,760
Speaker 4: That's a whole another interview though, Yeah, that's another that's

1438
01:12:50,800 --> 01:12:55,320
Speaker 4: another time they'll say your love connection. Hey, I want

1439
01:12:55,360 --> 01:12:56,760
Speaker 4: to tell you before we get up out of here,

1440
01:12:57,280 --> 01:12:59,920
Speaker 4: we have a new YouTube channel to Gainst the chronic

1441
01:13:00,120 --> 01:13:02,799
Speaker 4: Go to the YouTube channel of the Gainst the Chronicles

1442
01:13:02,840 --> 01:13:03,759
Speaker 4: man check.

1443
01:13:03,640 --> 01:13:07,439
Speaker 3: Us out, and we're gonna well. That concludes another episode

1444
01:13:07,479 --> 01:13:09,960
Speaker 3: of the Gainst the Chronicles podcast. Be sure to download

1445
01:13:10,000 --> 01:13:12,799
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Speaker 3: and rating. Executive producers for The Gangst Chronicles podcasts of

1449
01:13:20,800 --> 01:13:23,880
Speaker 3: Norman Steel Aaron M. C a Tyler, Our visual media

1450
01:13:23,920 --> 01:13:26,719
Speaker 3: director is Brian Wyatt, and our audio editors tell It Hayes.

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01:13:26,960 --> 01:13:29,880
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01:13:29,920 --> 01:13:33,599
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