1 00:00:01,240 --> 00:00:01,880 Speaker 1: The volume. 2 00:00:10,320 --> 00:00:13,239 Speaker 2: Today we are joined with once a Giant, always a 3 00:00:13,280 --> 00:00:15,400 Speaker 2: giant as far as un concerned. So today we are 4 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:18,759 Speaker 2: joined with Georgia. This is your yellow jacket for life 5 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 2: as well. I think you know that. But today we 6 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:25,320 Speaker 2: are joined with Darren Waller tight End New York Giants Raiders. 7 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 2: But I'm just just Giants, bro, I don't We don't 8 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:30,040 Speaker 2: talk about other team you Giant for Life's. 9 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:33,040 Speaker 3: Pleasure to meet you. We followed Kwan. I think has 10 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:34,279 Speaker 3: some things to say about that. 11 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:34,640 Speaker 1: I don't know. 12 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:36,160 Speaker 3: I don't know if he feels like being a giant 13 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 3: life right now. He's an Eagle for life now. 14 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:42,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely. But Darren, thank you for joining us. Pleasure 15 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:44,479 Speaker 2: to finally meet you. We've been following each other on 16 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:47,280 Speaker 2: social media for a few years, so it's a pleasure 17 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 2: to have you in the studio with us today. 18 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:50,239 Speaker 3: Yeah, we appreciate the sport you've been giving us over 19 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 3: the years as well. Absolutely, I know you don't know 20 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 3: much about this new segment show entity platform. It is 21 00:00:57,600 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 3: still very much new Royal Mall, but we over. I 22 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:03,400 Speaker 3: don't know how many years, have talked to so many 23 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:05,560 Speaker 3: athletes and all they want to do is talk about rap. 24 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:08,480 Speaker 3: They never want to talk talk about it or they 25 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:11,959 Speaker 3: want to rap. Yes, And I've found that they usually 26 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:14,679 Speaker 3: have awful hip hop takes, like some of the worst ever. 27 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 3: So I am but there the same thing about my 28 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:20,320 Speaker 3: sports takes. So it's okay, we're finding a common ground here. 29 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:23,200 Speaker 3: But I do kind of want to start at the beginning. 30 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 3: I know you moved around a lot, from Maryland to 31 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:29,520 Speaker 3: Colorado to Georgia. What were you listening to early on, 32 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 3: especially in starting out in Maryland. 33 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:34,399 Speaker 4: Yeah, so I was born in Maryland. I was there 34 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 4: for like a year, and then we moved to Colorado. 35 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 4: So I was like four, So I don't even remember 36 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 4: that time. I remember from Georgia just all the way gotcha, 37 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 4: And I remember my dad would play like all dirty 38 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 4: bastard in the whip. My dad's from Queens, what part 39 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:50,920 Speaker 4: of Queens, Jamaica. 40 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 3: He was giving you that real culture. 41 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 1: Yeah. 42 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 4: So it was like and we came into the house 43 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 4: or something, me and my sister, and we were singeing 44 00:01:57,160 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 4: like ODB lyrics. My mom was like the here and 45 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 4: this to that ride with my dad, you know. So 46 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 4: but he was like, you know New York hip hop. 47 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 4: I know, he like gang star a lot most Yeah, 48 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 4: I stole his infamous mob Deep CD. That's a good 49 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:15,840 Speaker 4: I loved. If you go steal a CD, that's the 50 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 4: one that still temperature rising was. I used to love 51 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 4: ride around drums ever, Yeah, so that was early on 52 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:26,640 Speaker 4: for me. A lot of mom loved Michael Jackson and 53 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:30,360 Speaker 4: all types of everything, and they love smooth jazz, watercolors. 54 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 4: They always go to jazz festivals and whatnot. So it 55 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:33,680 Speaker 4: was a wide range. 56 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 3: And your family is musical, right is your grandfather great grandfather? 57 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 4: My great grandfather's fast Waller was like a legendary jazz pianist. 58 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 3: Soh so you guys have a lot of instruments in 59 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 3: the crib growing up, or they had. 60 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 4: Us playing piano at like four, taking lessons, and uh, 61 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:50,640 Speaker 4: I was in band in middle school and then it 62 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:52,960 Speaker 4: was like not cool to be in banded once you're 63 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 4: in high school. 64 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like South is probably cooler than up here. 65 00:02:57,440 --> 00:02:58,679 Speaker 3: What being in the band? 66 00:02:58,720 --> 00:02:59,799 Speaker 1: Yeah? Nah? 67 00:02:59,840 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 3: They you play sports in the South. Yeah, it's football, 68 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 3: like you mean, man like that in eighth grade, so 69 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:11,240 Speaker 3: you know it's time to play ball. But once you 70 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:14,360 Speaker 3: started like getting into junior high, high school, were you 71 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 3: still listening to your pops like ninety hip hop Ship, 72 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:18,519 Speaker 3: were you starting to get more into what was happening 73 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:19,000 Speaker 3: in Georgia? 74 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 1: I was getting into what's happening in Georgia. I loved 75 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:22,679 Speaker 1: Ludacris as a kid. 76 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:25,640 Speaker 4: By my first two years of high school, I was 77 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 4: riding around listening to Gucci mixtapes all the time, but 78 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:32,280 Speaker 4: I still kept the love for like like jay Z 79 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 4: Black Album was bigg in rotation on my CD player, 80 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 4: Kanye Graduation, Get Richard. 81 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 1: I trying like there's a whole bunch of. 82 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 3: So on on the verses. What side was you on 83 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 3: between g Z and Gucci? 84 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 1: Man? I was trying to sit that one out because 85 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 1: it was just like. 86 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 4: Pick, but I was probably leading more leaned a little 87 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 4: bit more Gucci, but it was tough to be like, damn, 88 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 4: I gotta like not funck with That was such. 89 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:04,120 Speaker 2: An interesting time like that versus, because I think that 90 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 2: versus I learned a lot about exactly how many people 91 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 2: in Georgia. 92 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 3: I always knew they fucked with Gucci, but. 93 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 2: That night I learned I was like, oh no, it's 94 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 2: a different It's a level that I had no idea. 95 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:18,120 Speaker 2: I think you had to be from Georgia to understand 96 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 2: exactly the difference between Gucci and GEEZI as far as 97 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 2: people from Georgia concerned. 98 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, following Yeah. 99 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 3: When I got to college, I started to understand more 100 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 3: because you know, people from the South, for some weird reason, 101 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:31,560 Speaker 3: came up north to go to college and they started 102 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 3: explaining that Jez and Gucci shit to me as if 103 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:35,800 Speaker 3: it was jah Ru and fifty cent, and I thought 104 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:38,120 Speaker 3: they was fucking crazy. Then I got down to the 105 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 3: South and was like, oh, I get it. My bad, 106 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:42,160 Speaker 3: I didn't realize that this was really all jay Z 107 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 3: and Nas at the moment. 108 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:43,840 Speaker 1: There. 109 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 3: We're close in age, so I know we grew up 110 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 3: on similar music. To me, Ludacris might be the most 111 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 3: criminally underrated rapper of all time based off his desography. 112 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 3: No disrespect to Nelly. We saw what happened during COVID 113 00:04:57,640 --> 00:05:00,839 Speaker 3: and the verses. Everyone's like, Yo, Nelly's I'm in I agree, 114 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:03,159 Speaker 3: Nelly's the man, but you're not fucking with Luda cleaned 115 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:06,600 Speaker 3: him the fuck up. Yeah, Luda had been a personality, 116 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:09,799 Speaker 3: an actor, a lot of where I even see rappers 117 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 3: going now, Luda was doing before Luda was on the radio, 118 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 3: before he was a rapper, luded to me is actually 119 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 3: the blueprint, especially from the South for a rapper. What 120 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:21,119 Speaker 3: was Luda like growing up in Georgia, T y'all because 121 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:23,359 Speaker 3: in New York to us, he was like a New 122 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:25,160 Speaker 3: York rapper. He was wrapping his ass off over those 123 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:27,159 Speaker 3: Southern beats. It was it was an easier way to 124 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:30,360 Speaker 3: digest than say t I, who came a little later 125 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 3: that had more of a Southern accent where Luda didn't. 126 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, Luda was I mean about pregames. So my first 127 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:37,480 Speaker 1: pregame song was rollout. 128 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:42,680 Speaker 4: Ludigris, Like that's first got a CD player every time. 129 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:44,480 Speaker 4: But I feel like for me, for him, it was 130 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 4: like the personality that he put on records because a 131 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:50,920 Speaker 4: lot of like Raper is like like tough Bravado. Yeah, 132 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:54,440 Speaker 4: Ludacris would be funny, like he talked about women like 133 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:58,280 Speaker 4: he's like and whatever, he's whatever he does, and it's 134 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 4: like his wordplay and the tones of his I was 135 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 4: just like it would make me laugh, Like I'm like yeah, 136 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 4: but like he would make me laugh, he would make 137 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 4: me be like hype, like it was just like something 138 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 4: that he was doing. 139 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:10,719 Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, I'm fucking with him, like he's 140 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 1: just a personality like you said. 141 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:14,279 Speaker 3: And the way like of course you bring up Missy Buster. 142 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:18,279 Speaker 3: All these amazing visual artists like their videos. But to me, 143 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:20,480 Speaker 3: when I was a kid, Luda Chris had the best videos, 144 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:23,799 Speaker 3: hands down to me, Like we waited on Luda's videos. 145 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 2: You know, Luda definitely is one of those artists that 146 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 2: pushed visually. He pushed his art to another level. He 147 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 2: wasn't afraid to try different shit, to have fun, be funny, 148 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 2: even make fun of himself wearing the big sneakers and 149 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 2: all of that. 150 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:39,400 Speaker 3: You know, he was. 151 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 2: Definitely an artist that looking back where it was like, yo, 152 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 2: he can really rap, but like he's not afraid to 153 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 2: have fun either though. But when he give you those records, 154 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:49,720 Speaker 2: it's like, yo, I don't know if it's too many 155 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 2: dudes that could rap better than than him, but he didn't. 156 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:54,599 Speaker 2: I don't think he got that respect because he was 157 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 2: so animated. And it's like, you know, a rap you 158 00:06:57,800 --> 00:07:00,360 Speaker 2: kind of have a hard time. We like cool, we 159 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:02,159 Speaker 2: can emulate, like if I put on the song, I 160 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 2: want to be able to rap like that. You don't 161 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 2: want to be too animated and rapped like Ludacris because 162 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:08,279 Speaker 2: it's like people gonna look at you, like, what's up 163 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 2: with this dude to be okay? But when you listen 164 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 2: to what he's saying, he's getting off, like he's really 165 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 2: getting his shit off. So I think it was just 166 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 2: that he was, you know, he was having a good time. 167 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 3: He threw his. 168 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 2: Music, wanted people to have fun, dance. But I also 169 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 2: respected Ludo because he was when those when the music 170 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 2: called for it, and especially when he did features. Like 171 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 2: when Luda was doing features, I think he went in 172 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 2: there knowing I'm clean. I don't care who else is 173 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 2: on this record. I'm cleaning them up. They have a 174 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 2: hard time rapping better than me, and that I think 175 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 2: that was That's why I like Lude a lot, because 176 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 2: he had fun, but when it was time to get busy, 177 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 2: he also could do that too. 178 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 1: Took it there. 179 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 3: Yeah. He actually have a funny Luther story that I've 180 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 3: never told on our pod mea Aristotle. We did a 181 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 3: video for Luda a while ago, and he pulled up 182 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 3: to set driving a tour bus like he had he 183 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 3: was driving the tour He pulled up in the tour 184 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 3: bus driving I was like, all right, that's weird, but 185 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 3: all right, I'm with it. And once we started talking more, 186 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 3: he was like, yeah, it's not like a gimmick. I 187 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 3: know everyone in Atlanta sees me driving around on this tour bus. 188 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 3: I have lost half a million dollars on every single 189 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 3: tour because of the tour bus fees. And I just 190 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 3: wanted to buy a tour bus, so saved my fucking money. 191 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 3: And this is also the guy that has fast and 192 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 3: furious money at this point. This wasn't like early right, 193 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 3: this is this is legacy looting, right, and he's still 194 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 3: doing that. Like he also on the business side. I 195 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 3: know you joke around, we were really drinking loutiac. I 196 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 3: don't know in Atlanta. If you was at Georgia, we 197 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 3: were drinking looty. Yeah twenty ten, we were drinking one 198 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:38,840 Speaker 3: hundred percent drinking LOUTI. 199 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 2: Yea, yeah, I didn't do the lootiac. Wasn't my brain. 200 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 3: I didn't do that. But who were some of your 201 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 3: other favorite rappers coming out of just Georgia period? 202 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 1: Uh? Yeah, geezy, Like I said, Gucci, like it was 203 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:55,280 Speaker 1: tough to see that war go down. Pastor Troy had bangers. 204 00:08:56,679 --> 00:08:58,559 Speaker 1: That was probably it because I was like a blend. 205 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:00,560 Speaker 4: Those are like my South guys that got me in 206 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 4: the door to Like then the new era was like 207 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 4: who I really loved, like Thug's future, like seeing them 208 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 4: from like live mixtapes era on up it was just 209 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:11,560 Speaker 4: like a tree, like even Metro like starting his own 210 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:15,440 Speaker 4: projects at like nineteen years old, like seeing that whole rise. 211 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 3: So, I mean, your pop's playing you old dirty bastard, 212 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 3: mob deep, et cetera. It wasn't a little difficult getting 213 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:24,559 Speaker 3: into Thug and some of that stuff just because you 214 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:27,480 Speaker 3: grew up on more boombab type of rap. 215 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 1: I don't know what it was. 216 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:29,960 Speaker 4: I always had like an open mind of this music, 217 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:32,320 Speaker 4: like I'm listening to like I remember I had a 218 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 4: vivid memory of crying when I heard the song by 219 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 4: Daughtry when I was in middle school. 220 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:38,440 Speaker 3: Okay Daughtry Wow. 221 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:41,240 Speaker 4: Like I'm like, I'm listening to all different types, like 222 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:43,840 Speaker 4: any kind of music like can stoke up a feeling 223 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:45,840 Speaker 4: in me or I love listening to it. So it's 224 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:48,440 Speaker 4: like it wasn't just like one genre was like my 225 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 4: cup of tea. 226 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 3: It was like I feel like, did Dodgy start on 227 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:51,559 Speaker 3: an American idol? 228 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 1: Bruh Home by Dadge. 229 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 3: How do I remember that? Like that was the wame. 230 00:09:55,840 --> 00:09:57,960 Speaker 1: Banger bro right on. 231 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 2: Getaway Boys, Dawtrey is crazy. I would never would have 232 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 2: guessed you. 233 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean any Yeah, I love even like the 234 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 4: like the rock music from back in that era because 235 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 4: I mean I like a lot of white homies back 236 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 4: the Inn, like all American rejects of course, oh yeah, 237 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:19,079 Speaker 4: my Chemical Romance bangers back there. 238 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 1: Yeah. 239 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, that era of like alternative rock was incredible. I 240 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:23,960 Speaker 3: wish it continued on or maybe I'm just out of touch. 241 00:10:24,040 --> 00:10:26,439 Speaker 3: I feel like that whole genre is just going that far. 242 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:27,680 Speaker 3: Alternative slash pop. 243 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 2: I think I think, you know, it's fun. I think 244 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:31,320 Speaker 2: a lot of that has to do with TRL no 245 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 2: longer being around. 246 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:32,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean a. 247 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 2: Lot of that, A lot of that helped, Like TRL 248 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:37,200 Speaker 2: helped kind of like push that into every home, like 249 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:39,280 Speaker 2: because like I said, we if people look at us, 250 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:41,200 Speaker 2: they I would never think you listened to Daughtry my 251 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:44,600 Speaker 2: Chemical Romance, but you probably watched t r L pretty 252 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:47,120 Speaker 2: much every day. And that's how I got introduced to 253 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:48,720 Speaker 2: a lot of that ship was watching TRH. So I 254 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 2: think that kind of like killed the whole alternative rock. 255 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:55,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, wave what was your first ringtone Mike Jones back then. 256 00:10:57,240 --> 00:11:00,559 Speaker 4: On a singular wireless Sony ericson flip phone. 257 00:11:00,559 --> 00:11:04,720 Speaker 3: Absolutely, I mean naturally, Yeah, yeah, I did a lot 258 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:06,560 Speaker 3: of did not want me. 259 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:10,440 Speaker 1: Straight up. 260 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:14,080 Speaker 3: That's hilarious. It's funny that the ringtone validate that. Like, 261 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 3: I know, it's not a whole call, not at all. 262 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:21,440 Speaker 3: Definitely just the homies. I mean, what were the girls 263 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 3: listening to in high school with you? Because I was 264 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:30,719 Speaker 3: so much like on not more like rap nerdy shit 265 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:32,559 Speaker 3: because I was into Mike Jones and a lot of 266 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:34,720 Speaker 3: like more of the South ship that was popping, even 267 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:36,680 Speaker 3: snap music. But I was still very much in my 268 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 3: own bubble of underground rap that didn't really relate to 269 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:44,120 Speaker 3: the pretty girls I was trying to like finger sorry 270 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 3: to be explained, it was high school man. Yeah, natural, 271 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:49,719 Speaker 3: So that was always like a big dis disconnection when 272 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 3: it came to music and women in high school for me. 273 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:55,480 Speaker 3: Did you run into that at all? She was raised 274 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 3: the old dirty bastard. They wasn't trying to hear that. 275 00:11:57,040 --> 00:11:59,080 Speaker 4: I feel like if you was in then usher Chris Brown, 276 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 4: yeah side of things like you was using the right spot. 277 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:08,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, when you in playing sports when you got into sports. 278 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 2: Who are some of the people that you definitely can 279 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:15,560 Speaker 2: contribute like a lot of your workout regimen to like 280 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:17,959 Speaker 2: what was playing, Like what music was were you listening 281 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 2: to before game days? What are the artists that you 282 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 2: were like before a game, I have to listen to. 283 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:25,840 Speaker 2: This artist is the artist that gets me in that 284 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:26,559 Speaker 2: in that zone. 285 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:30,680 Speaker 4: I feel like that's where like the trap music part 286 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 4: of Atlanta started coming in. So it's like seeing the 287 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:38,200 Speaker 4: rise of I mean all through Floka Thug from the 288 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:43,840 Speaker 4: very very earliest days future from the earliest days. We're 289 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:46,600 Speaker 4: always in rotation a little bit in there, like I said, 290 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:49,240 Speaker 4: jay Z, but that's mostly where like the Atlanta scene 291 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:52,680 Speaker 4: of music came in. Was like gott to be playing 292 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:54,240 Speaker 4: the drums before game days, and that was like what 293 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 4: everybody in high school wanted to listen to. 294 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:58,520 Speaker 3: So there's no there's no R and B before game. 295 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:01,360 Speaker 4: Nah my taste four games even all like once I'm 296 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:02,880 Speaker 4: in the once I'm in the league, Like it depends 297 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:04,480 Speaker 4: on how I was feeling that day. There's times I 298 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:07,040 Speaker 4: went out there and I think there's a game where 299 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:10,040 Speaker 4: we played Jacksonville in like twenty nineteen, I had like 300 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 4: one hundred in the first half. I was listening to 301 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:15,679 Speaker 4: like Fred Hammond and Marvin Sap before the game, like 302 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:17,520 Speaker 4: and then, but then there'd be some games where I'll 303 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:21,480 Speaker 4: listen to like piano music or like fucking Chaker healing music. 304 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:23,559 Speaker 4: But then there's days where I'm out there and it's 305 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 4: just straight it's like Westside Gun or it's a little 306 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:28,439 Speaker 4: baby like it's just all over the place. 307 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:31,079 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I mean, what's the difference going into those 308 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:34,200 Speaker 3: games of warning to go with healing music versus West 309 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:35,800 Speaker 3: Side Gun screaming boom boom boom. 310 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:38,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the feel. It's kind of how I wake 311 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:39,720 Speaker 1: up and feel that morning. 312 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:41,720 Speaker 4: You know. It's like most times people are like, all right, Sunday, 313 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:44,000 Speaker 4: They're ready to go. There's some days where it's like 314 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:45,680 Speaker 4: I had a two hundred yard game once, so I 315 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:46,880 Speaker 4: woke up that morning. I was like, I don't know 316 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:48,760 Speaker 4: how I'm gonna play a football game. I went out 317 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 4: the warm ups. I didn't even have pants on over 318 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:53,719 Speaker 4: my leggings. I look crazy. But it's so those days 319 00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:55,720 Speaker 4: I kind of tempered my music around, like how I'm 320 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:57,840 Speaker 4: feeling that morning. That would have me because you gotta 321 00:13:57,880 --> 00:13:59,080 Speaker 4: be calm when you go out there, you got to 322 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:01,319 Speaker 4: be like that edge to you. But at the same time, 323 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:02,559 Speaker 4: you got to be calm. There's a lot of shit 324 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:04,880 Speaker 4: you gotta process much that you got to execute. Yeah, 325 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 4: So niggas be too hype out there sometimes and forget 326 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 4: they got to do a job. 327 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:10,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, And I mean when you're playing with the Raiders, 328 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:13,120 Speaker 3: because that just comes with you know, even leaving Oakland 329 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:16,559 Speaker 3: and going to Vegas, they still have that reputation of 330 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:19,960 Speaker 3: having those crazy fans death metal and shit. Was it 331 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:22,360 Speaker 3: tough trying to like warm up before a game and 332 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 3: they're trying to cater to the fans rather than you. 333 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:27,000 Speaker 3: As far as music, because I've been to if your 334 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:29,320 Speaker 3: Raider game that's it's just heavy metal and shit that's 335 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 3: playing the entire time. That would annoy the fuck out 336 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:31,240 Speaker 3: of me. 337 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:34,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, and yeah, the music is like you can't even 338 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 4: pick up on what they're trying to do. It's like, 339 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 4: is this, like you said, is this catered to players? 340 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:38,240 Speaker 1: Yeah? 341 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:40,240 Speaker 3: I mean at least with the giants like wil As 342 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 3: DJ and the shit, and it's cool. With those Raiders games, 343 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:46,440 Speaker 3: it's just Harley Davison music the entire time. But that's 344 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:46,880 Speaker 3: a different. 345 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:50,280 Speaker 2: I think the Raider and you could probably speak to this, Darren, 346 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:53,320 Speaker 2: what is the culture, like the difference in the culture 347 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:57,840 Speaker 2: going from the Raiders organization to the Giants, because Raider 348 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 2: culture is a whole different front animal. Like the ship 349 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 2: that I see, I'm like, I get his football. But 350 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:06,920 Speaker 2: like some of these people, like they followed these fans 351 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:10,120 Speaker 2: to their homes and like they have Raider homes. Like 352 00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 2: what is the difference in the culture and an environment, 353 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:15,120 Speaker 2: Like when you got to the Raiders versus the Giants, 354 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:16,160 Speaker 2: what was the culture change? 355 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:16,720 Speaker 1: Uh? 356 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, those fans as you described, like they're outside the 357 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 4: gate that you drive in every single day. 358 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:25,520 Speaker 1: There's dudes out there, like on Thanksgiving and Christmas. It's like, 359 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 1: where's your family? My boy? Like like the damn We 360 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:34,800 Speaker 1: had a janitor that came from Oakland to Vegas. 361 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 4: He ended up getting in some trouble and they kicked 362 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 4: him out, but he had like John Gruden portraits tatted 363 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:41,720 Speaker 4: on him like Raiders. 364 00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:45,520 Speaker 1: The janitor bro Migo shout of Migo. 365 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 2: Man. 366 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 4: I don't know where Migo is at, but wherever you at, 367 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:52,240 Speaker 4: man the Raider shrine at his house, Like he would 368 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:55,160 Speaker 4: show us pictures like yeah, so those fans are really crashed, 369 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:57,240 Speaker 4: like their whole body'll have a whole Raiders sleeve. 370 00:15:57,760 --> 00:16:00,040 Speaker 3: John Gruden never see that. Like when he was in 371 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:01,800 Speaker 3: the bathroom taking a piss and the janitor was there, 372 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:03,840 Speaker 3: like yo, John, check it out. Shirt off and show 373 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:05,360 Speaker 3: John's chests while he's in the bathroom. 374 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:07,000 Speaker 1: Hed pull a service on the players. 375 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:10,080 Speaker 3: So he's a lifeer. 376 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:12,320 Speaker 2: He's like somebody that has been So they just kept 377 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 2: him at the janitor position. They didn't want to like 378 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 2: elevate him a little bit in an organization, elevated to 379 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:19,440 Speaker 2: just let him mop. 380 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:24,280 Speaker 3: Was working over time, mobbed some passions, doing with passion. 381 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:26,920 Speaker 3: I get that part, get getting a John Gruden tattoo. 382 00:16:27,040 --> 00:16:29,280 Speaker 3: That being a janitor at the Raiders stadium would be 383 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:31,400 Speaker 3: like the apex job, right, you can't be like that. 384 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:32,680 Speaker 1: That's the CMO. 385 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:36,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I have John. That's the best job ever. Yeah. 386 00:16:36,680 --> 00:16:38,080 Speaker 2: Like he's just he just wants to be in the building. 387 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:39,640 Speaker 2: He's one of those guys. He's let me be in 388 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:40,560 Speaker 2: the building every day. 389 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:43,200 Speaker 1: Would take and be the clip in him. He'd take 390 00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:43,960 Speaker 1: bullys for the radio. 391 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, see that's that's that's the type of fan 392 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:48,800 Speaker 2: base that I think is a little just too aggressive. 393 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:51,400 Speaker 2: I get football is aggressive sport, but you see people 394 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 2: like that. I love it, but it's like watch him 395 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:55,080 Speaker 2: because we don't know what he's libel. 396 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:59,000 Speaker 3: It's like Raiders, Eagles, the Jets to some degree are 397 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:01,120 Speaker 3: more like college for ball fans to me than they 398 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:03,440 Speaker 3: are NFL. Shit, Like, did you have any of that 399 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:06,159 Speaker 3: at Georgia Tech? Because people obsessed over college football, I 400 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:07,399 Speaker 3: feel like more than NFL. 401 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:09,840 Speaker 4: Georgia Tech was a strange crowd, Like the average fan 402 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:10,960 Speaker 4: was like fifty plus. 403 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:13,679 Speaker 1: It's like a weird demographic. 404 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 4: There's like Georgia Tech is probably the safest place you 405 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:17,080 Speaker 4: can ever go watch a football game. 406 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:19,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's probably because, like it's all the wild people 407 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:21,800 Speaker 3: are bulldogs fans. I would assume they're more of like 408 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:25,200 Speaker 3: the so pretentious people would be like, I'm with Tech. Yeah, 409 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:26,920 Speaker 3: you're downtown. 410 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:28,720 Speaker 1: Forty eight year old's fucking barking shit. 411 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:33,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, because you got there. What twenty eleven, twenty eleven, yep? 412 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:36,760 Speaker 3: What was going on in the city of Atlanta club wise? 413 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:37,480 Speaker 3: Music wise? 414 00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:38,320 Speaker 1: At that point? 415 00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:42,800 Speaker 4: I mean shit, we wouldn't even really go into the clubs. 416 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:45,639 Speaker 4: We were going to these bars and buckhead where they 417 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:48,560 Speaker 4: were they had like welfare Wednesdays, like news was broke. 418 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:51,000 Speaker 1: This was not. There was no nil Wednesday. There was 419 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:52,080 Speaker 1: no nil back. 420 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:54,320 Speaker 3: Then, all those fifty year old fans isl was. 421 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:55,720 Speaker 4: You get on the bus to go to the game 422 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:57,760 Speaker 4: on Saturday. They give you fifteen dollars. They said, make 423 00:17:57,800 --> 00:17:58,720 Speaker 4: this last till Monday. 424 00:17:59,119 --> 00:17:59,840 Speaker 3: Fifteen dollars. 425 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:07,120 Speaker 4: That's like double mc chicken epic vodka, like plastic bottle. Wait, wait, 426 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:08,120 Speaker 4: that'll hold me to money. 427 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:13,200 Speaker 2: Wait, they give you fifteen dollars and make it last. Yeah, 428 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:18,480 Speaker 2: fifteen dollars. Yeah yeah, So y'all are so your student athletes? 429 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:21,600 Speaker 2: You're selling out. You're selling out the arena on campus 430 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:27,159 Speaker 2: every weekend yep selling jerseys. What does that do to 431 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:30,359 Speaker 2: a player who is getting fifteen dollars family struggling back home? 432 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 2: Obviously you have dreams and aspirations of going pro one day. 433 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:37,800 Speaker 2: What does that do for your mindset? Knowing like, okay, 434 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:40,080 Speaker 2: I have fifteen dollars to last week for three days. 435 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:43,560 Speaker 2: My family's back home struggling, Like, how does that motivate 436 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:46,040 Speaker 2: you as a player, Like, I got to make sure 437 00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:48,200 Speaker 2: I'm doing what I do out here because I got 438 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:49,480 Speaker 2: my whole family. I got to take care of and 439 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:50,480 Speaker 2: it's fifteen dollars a week. 440 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:53,440 Speaker 4: Ain't cutting it well, I mean, motivate you as a player, 441 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:56,480 Speaker 4: but it's also like I'm just about to start stealing shit, 442 00:18:56,560 --> 00:18:57,000 Speaker 4: my boy, Like. 443 00:18:57,160 --> 00:19:01,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's I'm like, I'm about to just start stealing 444 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 3: this fifteen dollars coming in a position there's nothing else 445 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:04,879 Speaker 3: to do. 446 00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:07,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, gotta start evaluating all licks possible. 447 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:09,800 Speaker 2: But like seeing your jersey in the stands, knowing that 448 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:12,400 Speaker 2: people paid for that, knowing that university is making money 449 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:15,080 Speaker 2: off of that, like that has to kind of piss 450 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:17,240 Speaker 2: a play off Like, yeah, it's like this this is crazy. 451 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:19,359 Speaker 4: Yeah, hopefully they'll get it right one day. But then 452 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 4: now it's like, you see, the other thing was Penn State. 453 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:24,399 Speaker 4: They had a young receivercar touchdown, he got up. This 454 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:27,280 Speaker 4: motherfucker had diamond teeth and he's eighteen years old. I 455 00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 4: was like, we swung that bitch to the other end 456 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:30,200 Speaker 4: of the spectrum. 457 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:32,600 Speaker 2: Now, yeah, but how do you look at that as 458 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:35,000 Speaker 2: a player who had your time when again it went 459 00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:37,639 Speaker 2: from fifteen dollars. So now a lot of these players 460 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:40,240 Speaker 2: coming in, they have these nil deals who might not 461 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:42,440 Speaker 2: be better than Darren Waller was coming out of high 462 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:44,719 Speaker 2: school right going into college and now you see these 463 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:48,200 Speaker 2: young collegiate athletes making all of his money social media 464 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:49,000 Speaker 2: going crazy. 465 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:50,399 Speaker 3: What does that do to you? 466 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:53,359 Speaker 2: Like, damn, Like I missed out on all of that 467 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 2: when it because I was definitely better than this kid 468 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:56,919 Speaker 2: and in il is fucking crazy. 469 00:19:57,160 --> 00:19:57,360 Speaker 1: Yeah. 470 00:19:57,760 --> 00:19:58,800 Speaker 4: I feel like I'm in a place now in my 471 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 4: life where it's like I actually like love seeing them 472 00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:04,959 Speaker 4: have that opportunity, you know, because but at the same time, 473 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:07,400 Speaker 4: I feel like there's certain character lessons you learned having 474 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:09,640 Speaker 4: like eight dollars in your bank account, that's a fact. Yeah, 475 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:13,280 Speaker 4: and not having that money because like at eighteen, you 476 00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 4: get muscles going in with ms out of high school 477 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:18,240 Speaker 4: like they're the bread winners. It's just like mom telling 478 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:20,400 Speaker 4: you to take the trash out you like, yeah, yeah, 479 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:23,040 Speaker 4: I'm bringing the money on it. Like yeah, it's a 480 00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:23,960 Speaker 4: different environment. 481 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 3: But that's a cool perspective though, because I really would 482 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:29,119 Speaker 3: feel like, yo, you guys, owe me back pay on 483 00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:31,560 Speaker 3: all these shit, Like there's no way that I did 484 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:33,360 Speaker 3: all this. And it's the same way like when people 485 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:35,159 Speaker 3: have been locked up for weed for fifty years now 486 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:37,679 Speaker 3: it's legal and just like, let me the fuck out, 487 00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:40,560 Speaker 3: I hear it's the same thing. That is an interesting perspective. 488 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:43,320 Speaker 3: I have a way lesser version of that when I 489 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:45,440 Speaker 3: look at college. I went to like a commuter school, 490 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:47,920 Speaker 3: and I think about if I would have went to 491 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:49,680 Speaker 3: a school in the South, it would have been a 492 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 3: better experience. But there's no way I would have been 493 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:54,159 Speaker 3: kicked out in the first week. Like, I don't know 494 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:56,159 Speaker 3: if I'd ever stay focused. And I think about that 495 00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:59,439 Speaker 3: with certain college athletes. Would you have stayed as focused 496 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:00,840 Speaker 3: if you had money like that? 497 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:04,000 Speaker 4: I don't think so, because I mean, I'm like, I'm 498 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:06,280 Speaker 4: full blown drug addict, alcoholic at this time. 499 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:08,240 Speaker 3: Like, yeah, you wouldn't have gold teeth. It would have 500 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:09,000 Speaker 3: been a whole different thing. 501 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:15,159 Speaker 4: No, it would have been like a brick, Yeah, shaving 502 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:18,440 Speaker 4: that bitch every day. But but yeah, it would have 503 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:20,840 Speaker 4: been Yeah, I would have been I probably wouldn't have 504 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:21,560 Speaker 4: made it out of a car. 505 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:23,680 Speaker 1: I barely made it out as it was. 506 00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:26,640 Speaker 4: You know, I fucking drk got into an accident going 507 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 4: the wrong way, just fucked up behind the wheel, like 508 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:32,600 Speaker 4: just shit like that happening in college. Yeah, you would 509 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:36,280 Speaker 4: have gave me one hundred thousand million dollars, Like because 510 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:38,200 Speaker 4: if I had one hundred dollars my banker, I'm like, shit, 511 00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:39,119 Speaker 4: we we up? 512 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:39,840 Speaker 1: What were we doing tonight? 513 00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:40,080 Speaker 3: Yeah? 514 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:42,240 Speaker 2: That is a that's a great way to look at it, 515 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 2: Like you knowing who you are as a person and 516 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:46,600 Speaker 2: knowing if you had access oh to this money and 517 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:48,760 Speaker 2: things like that, like you know, it probably would have 518 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:51,800 Speaker 2: fueled a bigger animal that you have, you know what 519 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:54,000 Speaker 2: I mean? The nil thing I think, I don't know, 520 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:57,440 Speaker 2: I'm kind of While I do like the fact that 521 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:03,320 Speaker 2: players are making money in college because obviously these universities 522 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:07,000 Speaker 2: are making billions of dollars over these players, I kind 523 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:09,879 Speaker 2: of feel like just looking at it, it's kind of 524 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 2: watering down the competitiveness. 525 00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:17,040 Speaker 3: To me, even an extent the talent. 526 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:19,560 Speaker 2: Like I look at a lot of these, uh specifically 527 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:22,880 Speaker 2: these basketball players in college, and you know, you see 528 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:25,720 Speaker 2: all of these the highlights on social media. They have 529 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:28,640 Speaker 2: all these clips and once House of Highlights post them. 530 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:31,320 Speaker 2: You know, it's like they they social media goes crazy. 531 00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:33,479 Speaker 2: But then I look into it, like I'm looking at 532 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:35,639 Speaker 2: a highlight. Everybody looks good on the highlight tape, right, 533 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 2: I'm looking at how I'm like, damn, who is this kid? 534 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:38,080 Speaker 3: Like yo? 535 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 2: He's he looked like he could be the next one. 536 00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:43,359 Speaker 2: But then I go and I look at what he's average, 537 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:47,560 Speaker 2: and I'm like, he's only averaging eight his highlight table, 538 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:48,920 Speaker 2: like he's averaging thirty five. 539 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:50,080 Speaker 1: That's a fires eight. 540 00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:54,000 Speaker 2: But then exactly the eight look crazy when social media 541 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:56,640 Speaker 2: then just two breakaway windmill dunks or you know, it's 542 00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:58,199 Speaker 2: a fucking eighty R reception. 543 00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:00,359 Speaker 3: But it's like, yeah, that was his only catch for 544 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:01,639 Speaker 3: like three months, so like. 545 00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:02,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, you make a great point. 546 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:03,119 Speaker 2: Man. 547 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:05,440 Speaker 4: It's I feel like for the young dudes, it's like 548 00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:09,440 Speaker 4: the priorities are changing as opposed to it's getting a 549 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:12,600 Speaker 4: bag and being blown up on social media as opposed 550 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:15,480 Speaker 4: to like developing and being excellent at your craft. And 551 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 4: it's like, how can you blame them? That's what's in 552 00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:19,640 Speaker 4: their face, is being shown as that's the most valuable. 553 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:22,399 Speaker 4: So it's like, yeah, like I said, there's lessons you 554 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:24,000 Speaker 4: learn in college, like if you're not the starter like 555 00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:26,040 Speaker 4: you and back in the day, you just grind and 556 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:28,360 Speaker 4: wait your turn and then earn your spot in time 557 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:30,719 Speaker 4: as teaching you valuable lessons. But now it's like if 558 00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:33,160 Speaker 4: they don't put ketchup on your sandwich, in the cafeteria 559 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:36,760 Speaker 4: niggas is transferring like it's a whole different game, Like 560 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:39,320 Speaker 4: any sign of adversity, They're trying to go somewhere else, 561 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:41,320 Speaker 4: and it's like they want the instant gratification of like 562 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:43,680 Speaker 4: a big play that goes viral as opposed to like 563 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:46,280 Speaker 4: I never had any major plays, but it's like the 564 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:48,680 Speaker 4: consistency that I was able to develop help me to 565 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:49,880 Speaker 4: build a career. 566 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:51,680 Speaker 1: And I don't know if that's really on their minds. 567 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:53,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think even just getting into that trendsfer 568 00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:57,240 Speaker 3: portal has become easier with social media because's more accessible 569 00:23:57,280 --> 00:23:59,560 Speaker 3: to get. Even if you were a backup to have 570 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 3: a few highlights, you can pass those off easily to 571 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:04,600 Speaker 3: another coach, where that was way more difficult, Like thinking 572 00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:07,320 Speaker 3: about transferring if you was just a backup was very, 573 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:09,680 Speaker 3: very difficult at one point. How you could just start 574 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 3: sending shit out the clip like, hey, look at this, 575 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:13,399 Speaker 3: I'll go in the portal and figure it. 576 00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:13,760 Speaker 1: Out, right. 577 00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:15,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, used to have to sit out a year if 578 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:17,800 Speaker 4: you went somewhere, So it's like it's a big decision 579 00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 4: transfer Now I'm fucker's just going right into school and 580 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:21,600 Speaker 4: putting an uniform on and stepping out. 581 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:24,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I watched I watched a few interviews of you 582 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:28,399 Speaker 2: over the last few years, and one thing I do 583 00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:31,879 Speaker 2: admire about you is you're very self aware. You're very 584 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:35,280 Speaker 2: aware of who you are. You have no problem speaking 585 00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:39,560 Speaker 2: about your highlights and your low lights, and I think 586 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:41,399 Speaker 2: that's very admirable. A lot of people like to speak 587 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:43,520 Speaker 2: about when things are great and all, you know, the highlight, 588 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:46,920 Speaker 2: the dope shit. But you, I've noticed you're the type 589 00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:49,800 Speaker 2: of person that you don't mind talking about exactly who 590 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:54,520 Speaker 2: you are. You're unapologetic about who you are. Where is 591 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:58,640 Speaker 2: Darren Waller today? When it comes to number one? Mental health? 592 00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:00,879 Speaker 2: Physically you look like you still you still can go, 593 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:03,280 Speaker 2: You still you still can play. But where's Darren at 594 00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:05,760 Speaker 2: mentally as as as a as a man? 595 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:07,920 Speaker 1: A lot more at ease these days? 596 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 4: I would say, for like most of my life, and 597 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:13,040 Speaker 4: you know, towards the end of my career, I feel 598 00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:16,879 Speaker 4: like it was just like I'm entertaining, I'm good at this, 599 00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:19,480 Speaker 4: but I'm like, how much of my choosing to be here? 600 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 4: It's kind of like I'm like putting a mask on 601 00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:24,520 Speaker 4: of like, yep, I'm loving doing this shit, Like I'm here, like, 602 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:26,400 Speaker 4: you know, you can't just be like I don't want 603 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:29,280 Speaker 4: to hook be here like, but so it was just 604 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:32,119 Speaker 4: kind of dealing with that, and I don't know if, 605 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:33,360 Speaker 4: like most of my life, I was trying to fit 606 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:35,560 Speaker 4: this image of who the world wanted me to be, 607 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:38,399 Speaker 4: and I feel like it just started to crumble and 608 00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:40,680 Speaker 4: just eat away at me. And it's like, you know, 609 00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:42,440 Speaker 4: you turn to so many different things to just try 610 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:44,800 Speaker 4: to cope with that shit. And now it's like I'm 611 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:47,040 Speaker 4: able to finally be like, yeah, like I don't want 612 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:48,480 Speaker 4: to entertain it anymore, Like I kind of want to 613 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:51,080 Speaker 4: express myself more through art and just figure out what 614 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:52,840 Speaker 4: the fuck I want the rest of my life to 615 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:55,840 Speaker 4: look like and walk away. Whereas before I would never 616 00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:59,359 Speaker 4: make a decision like that, especially if it meant the 617 00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:01,679 Speaker 4: loss of a lot of people's approval, I would never 618 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:04,760 Speaker 4: make a decision like that. But to I guess, develop 619 00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:06,920 Speaker 4: the courage to make a decision like that and go 620 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:09,680 Speaker 4: through some you know, real life shit over the past year. 621 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:12,080 Speaker 4: So I mean to be like, all right, like I 622 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:13,960 Speaker 4: feel like I'm getting closer to figuring out, all right, 623 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:16,760 Speaker 4: what do I want my life to look like? Because 624 00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:19,360 Speaker 4: I don't want to keep getting to these places where 625 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:21,200 Speaker 4: everybody thinks, like, man, his life's got to be great, 626 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:24,680 Speaker 4: where I'm behind the scenes, like I'm putting up a smile, 627 00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:26,520 Speaker 4: but it ain't really my life like. 628 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:30,240 Speaker 3: I wanted to do. You think football was directly connected 629 00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:32,000 Speaker 3: to your substance abuse early on. 630 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:35,399 Speaker 1: In ways? 631 00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, Man, I feel like some of the lowest points, 632 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:40,000 Speaker 4: like my first two years of high school, like I 633 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:43,480 Speaker 4: was really small, I had big ears, big feet, Like 634 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:46,320 Speaker 4: I was getting roasted, Like I wasn't playing on the team. 635 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:48,600 Speaker 4: So it's just like puck, like I don't know what 636 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:50,760 Speaker 4: I'm gonna do. But then I started to get right 637 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:53,879 Speaker 4: around the time I started using, and I got bigger 638 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:55,680 Speaker 4: and started being on the team, so it's kind of 639 00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:57,359 Speaker 4: tied together. It's like, oh shit, just a recipe, Like 640 00:26:57,400 --> 00:26:59,400 Speaker 4: this is how I just you know, calm down, take 641 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:02,879 Speaker 4: the edge off. Yeah, And it's kind of realizing how 642 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:05,879 Speaker 4: like addictive thinking works. It's like the highs that you 643 00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:08,600 Speaker 4: get from football and like making the play and like 644 00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:11,840 Speaker 4: everybody's like watching you and like reporting on you and 645 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:15,120 Speaker 4: all that stuff is like I don't know what else 646 00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:19,080 Speaker 4: could really compare to that. So it's like feeling those 647 00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:21,119 Speaker 4: like I want to feel that shit again. It's kind 648 00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:23,760 Speaker 4: of like that addictive personality was in football too, because 649 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:26,440 Speaker 4: it's like the whole grind, the whole total picture of 650 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:27,840 Speaker 4: what it means to be a football player. I didn't 651 00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:29,920 Speaker 4: love all of it. I love being out there and 652 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:31,840 Speaker 4: getting into a flow and making plays and being like 653 00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:36,240 Speaker 4: I cannot be stopped today period, Like that's an unmatched high. 654 00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:38,320 Speaker 4: So I feel like that's what I was kind of 655 00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:41,359 Speaker 4: doing throughout my football career because it's like there's a 656 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:43,760 Speaker 4: lot of times where I'd be like uninterested or like 657 00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:45,880 Speaker 4: just kind of just like like I'm here, I'm gonna 658 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:46,600 Speaker 4: get my best effort. 659 00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:49,840 Speaker 3: But yeah, it's different versions of dopamine. At the end 660 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:52,960 Speaker 3: of the day. Facts did it get I'm sure it 661 00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:55,240 Speaker 3: did get much worse when you got to college and 662 00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:58,920 Speaker 3: just having the access and probably no supervision when you 663 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:01,240 Speaker 3: were in college with the subs. It's abuse with football. 664 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:03,840 Speaker 4: Oh man, Yeah, I remember, you know, your parents come 665 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:05,760 Speaker 4: help you move in there, like all right, son, like 666 00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:09,200 Speaker 4: and you like, really you got to hear it. You 667 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:10,760 Speaker 4: gotta take it from here. As soon as my parents 668 00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:12,960 Speaker 4: walked out. It's like at the same time, like some 669 00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:16,240 Speaker 4: of the dudes that were sophomores down the hall came 670 00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:17,639 Speaker 4: in with an ever clear bottle and put it on 671 00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:19,080 Speaker 4: the table and was like what we're doing. 672 00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:26,879 Speaker 1: I was like, where you know I could fit in 673 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:27,280 Speaker 1: doing this? 674 00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:29,640 Speaker 2: Like you know. We had a friend of the show, 675 00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:32,879 Speaker 2: Ashley Ashley Nicole mass on another day and I was 676 00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:35,479 Speaker 2: telling her. I was like, I have this thing where, well, 677 00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:38,240 Speaker 2: I don't club anymore, but back when I used to club, 678 00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:40,760 Speaker 2: whenever I saw football players coming to the club, I 679 00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:42,600 Speaker 2: would leave because. 680 00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:45,200 Speaker 3: Y'all have this certain aggression. First of all, y'all might. 681 00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:46,960 Speaker 2: Walk in with no shirt and just all your jewelry 682 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:49,480 Speaker 2: on number one, Like, I know you have teammates that 683 00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:50,120 Speaker 2: you can remember. 684 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:53,200 Speaker 4: I just had an epiphany because there was me in 685 00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:55,560 Speaker 4: my roommate in college out of and we would be 686 00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:57,240 Speaker 4: like a couple of the only football players they were 687 00:28:57,320 --> 00:28:59,280 Speaker 4: let in the frats because we would be like more 688 00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:01,880 Speaker 4: till we're just trying to smoke a little bit like drink, 689 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:03,520 Speaker 4: Like we're not trying to come in here and be like. 690 00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:05,400 Speaker 3: This my shit, that's the shit I'm talking about. 691 00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:07,040 Speaker 1: But we would be like, yo, can we bring the 692 00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:07,760 Speaker 1: teammates through? 693 00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:11,240 Speaker 4: And it'd be exactly what you just described and they'd 694 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:12,800 Speaker 4: be like, y'all can't bring the y'all just. 695 00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:15,840 Speaker 3: Know y'all stronger than everybody in here. And I think 696 00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:16,880 Speaker 3: football players know that. 697 00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:19,160 Speaker 2: Like I told Ash, y'all said, y'all have football players 698 00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:21,800 Speaker 2: have this this helmet thing because people don't know that 699 00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:23,960 Speaker 2: their faces because they have helmets on all the time. 700 00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:26,360 Speaker 3: So when they get in the public, it's like, yo, 701 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:27,880 Speaker 3: I press three eighty. 702 00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:30,040 Speaker 2: And this whatever whoever want to do, Like, fam we 703 00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:31,680 Speaker 2: need to listen to the R and B like are 704 00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:33,960 Speaker 2: you coming here with no shirt on and you ready 705 00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:37,640 Speaker 2: to fight and body slam everybody? But you can relate 706 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:39,960 Speaker 2: to that because you know, obviously people say the same 707 00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:41,840 Speaker 2: thing about you and your teammates, like y'all are cool. 708 00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:44,240 Speaker 2: Y'all seem to be the cool four players. The rest 709 00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:46,360 Speaker 2: of your homies leave them outside of the frat. 710 00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:46,960 Speaker 3: We don't want that. 711 00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:49,360 Speaker 2: What is that agreas Is that because y'all are just 712 00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:52,720 Speaker 2: so aggressive in nature for what y'all do for a living, 713 00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:55,720 Speaker 2: that y'all carry that on into like I call it 714 00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:57,320 Speaker 2: civilian life because we're just civilians. 715 00:29:57,360 --> 00:29:57,640 Speaker 1: We don't. 716 00:29:57,840 --> 00:29:59,959 Speaker 2: I don't press three eighty. I watch you on Sunday 717 00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:01,920 Speaker 2: but I'm not trying to get into a tussle with 718 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:03,400 Speaker 2: Darren Waller in the club. 719 00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:04,240 Speaker 3: I'm not trying to do that. 720 00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:06,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, I got to think of it from the mindset 721 00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:09,200 Speaker 4: of like football player, like our whole life, we're being 722 00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:13,760 Speaker 4: rewarded for imposing our will on people and being celebrated 723 00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:16,160 Speaker 4: for it, Like we love the way you just take 724 00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:19,600 Speaker 4: over and dominate. And so it's like it's hard for 725 00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:21,560 Speaker 4: a lot of people to flip that switch on and off. 726 00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:24,360 Speaker 4: It's like any type of environment I'm in, I need 727 00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:27,680 Speaker 4: to assert my dominance in this environment. 728 00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:29,000 Speaker 1: And so that's why it's like. 729 00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:32,320 Speaker 4: I mean even like I don't even want to condone 730 00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:36,120 Speaker 4: anything that like like like a Ray Rice situation. It's 731 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:39,280 Speaker 4: like when put into a jam or a spot where 732 00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:41,880 Speaker 4: your body, like your nervous system gets activated. It's like 733 00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:44,080 Speaker 4: you're like, all I've done my whole life and succeed 734 00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:47,240 Speaker 4: in is just like my way out or like and 735 00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:49,280 Speaker 4: so it's like that's embedded, I feel like in so 736 00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:51,800 Speaker 4: many guys to where it's like they go into environments 737 00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:52,920 Speaker 4: like I gotta let y'all. 738 00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:54,480 Speaker 3: Know, yeah, that's that's when my exit. 739 00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:57,440 Speaker 2: So with the DJ shout out, yo. So so the 740 00:30:57,480 --> 00:30:59,160 Speaker 2: defensive line and I'm like, yo, i'm hot here. Yeah, 741 00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:02,800 Speaker 2: you'll have a good night, right, That's just me. But 742 00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:05,120 Speaker 2: once I hit a D lineman is in there, I'm like, yeah, 743 00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:08,640 Speaker 2: I'm out. A couple of Wilde receivers, cool, tight ends cool. 744 00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:11,080 Speaker 2: The offensive guys seem to be a little cooler than 745 00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:14,040 Speaker 2: the defensive guys right in the club in civilian life, Yeah, 746 00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:14,840 Speaker 2: you're a linebacker. 747 00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:15,320 Speaker 1: It's time. 748 00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:18,160 Speaker 3: I'm going home. Well, I mean outside, I think ego 749 00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:21,480 Speaker 3: just in general too. You being in Atlanta at one point, 750 00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:25,040 Speaker 3: then Baltimore, than Vegas, than New York, those are like 751 00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:28,560 Speaker 3: four insane club cities. I'm sure you ran into a 752 00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:34,160 Speaker 3: lot of rappers or let's say, pharmaceutical people that are 753 00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:37,760 Speaker 3: used to controlling a club, and then an NFL player 754 00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:40,120 Speaker 3: walks in and that tends to have some type of 755 00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:41,640 Speaker 3: clash that I've seen in the past. 756 00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:43,040 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, bottle wars. 757 00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:43,600 Speaker 4: Yeah. 758 00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:46,000 Speaker 3: Have you been through any of that in the four 759 00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:47,880 Speaker 3: cities that you were in while you were a star. 760 00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:50,400 Speaker 4: I've seen it a little bit. I've never really been 761 00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:52,920 Speaker 4: too much of a club guy, like here and there. 762 00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:54,680 Speaker 4: Once I got once I got sober, I kind of 763 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:57,240 Speaker 4: just fell off but yeah, I've seen it's all and 764 00:31:57,320 --> 00:31:58,280 Speaker 4: people want to challenge the. 765 00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:00,640 Speaker 1: Football players like I can get I can get bitches 766 00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:03,080 Speaker 1: in here too, Like it's just like that game is 767 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:04,120 Speaker 1: that game is wicked. 768 00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:06,600 Speaker 2: What's the craziest shit You've seen a teammate doing the club? 769 00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:11,200 Speaker 2: And when did you know your teammate was filthy rich? 770 00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:14,560 Speaker 2: Because you every player has that moment where you like, 771 00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:16,680 Speaker 2: I'm making money, but he's making money. 772 00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:20,600 Speaker 4: I had never been in the club where it was 773 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:23,440 Speaker 4: the big money dudes was in there throwing like I 774 00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:27,400 Speaker 4: heard like stories of like Mike Wallace, like thirty in 775 00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:28,360 Speaker 4: the club was nothing. 776 00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:29,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a. 777 00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:32,520 Speaker 4: Regular night, yeah, light day. Yeah, But I had never 778 00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:34,880 Speaker 4: actually been in there when that was happening. Like the 779 00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:36,520 Speaker 4: times I've been to the club or been to like 780 00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:39,840 Speaker 4: a strip cloor whatever. It's like I spent three thousand 781 00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:42,360 Speaker 4: dollars on a section once, like I'm just wanting niggers. 782 00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:44,800 Speaker 3: Like to be in here playing this game, which are right? 783 00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:48,440 Speaker 3: What was it Vince Young or Steve McNair. Someone spent 784 00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:51,120 Speaker 3: like forty thousand dollars at Applebee's and I was like, 785 00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:52,760 Speaker 3: all right, man, which at. 786 00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:54,600 Speaker 1: Apple's fiscally impossible. 787 00:32:55,520 --> 00:33:00,200 Speaker 3: It was running back. It was something insane. It was 788 00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:06,600 Speaker 3: either Vince Young or Stemen. It was definitely like the franchise. 789 00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:08,760 Speaker 2: I didn't understand grant is the franchise, Like, you can 790 00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:11,080 Speaker 2: have this if I'm the manager that Applebee's and somebody 791 00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:12,960 Speaker 2: comes and run for forty thousand, sir, you can have 792 00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:14,360 Speaker 2: this entire establishment. 793 00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:15,880 Speaker 1: We need an explanation. 794 00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:21,520 Speaker 2: It was TGI Fridays Vince Young. TGI Friday's had to 795 00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:22,960 Speaker 2: run because. 796 00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:24,480 Speaker 3: Of Vince Young. They kept them moving. 797 00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:25,280 Speaker 4: You have to like, so. 798 00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:31,880 Speaker 3: When you first got to the Ravens, was Baltimore club 799 00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:35,080 Speaker 3: music kind of an eye opener? Was that a weird situation? 800 00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:36,880 Speaker 1: Yeah? I didn't know. I didn't know what to do 801 00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:37,720 Speaker 1: with that. 802 00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:39,880 Speaker 3: You're not how to swing that ship. Did know how 803 00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:40,360 Speaker 3: to do anything? 804 00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:43,640 Speaker 1: Nah, nothing about that. 805 00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:47,000 Speaker 3: I've talked to a lot of people that just end 806 00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:50,080 Speaker 3: up as athletes in the d m V area, and 807 00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:52,720 Speaker 3: when they have to hear Go Go and any Baltimore club, 808 00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:54,960 Speaker 3: They're like, I think I want to get traded. This 809 00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:57,040 Speaker 3: is the craziest ship I've ever heard speaking of that. 810 00:33:57,240 --> 00:34:00,600 Speaker 2: Who is your Who's a teammate that you can remember 811 00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:06,320 Speaker 2: for having the absolute best taste in music and the 812 00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:11,279 Speaker 2: worst taste in music, Like you get in the locker room, 813 00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:12,600 Speaker 2: you're like, oh, here he go with this ship. 814 00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:16,520 Speaker 4: You know exactly what you're gonna get from any football 815 00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:18,239 Speaker 4: player from the state of Louisiana. 816 00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:22,560 Speaker 1: Whosi No these new the new y ends like. 817 00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:26,680 Speaker 3: That just straight young what's the rob four nons? 818 00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:29,200 Speaker 1: And yeah the whole life, which is like, I mean, 819 00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:31,799 Speaker 1: it's it's further what we're about to go do. It's 820 00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:33,160 Speaker 1: it's great music. 821 00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:35,600 Speaker 4: But it's like they'll come in, it'll be six am, 822 00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:38,479 Speaker 4: and it's like, dog, we need some like some soul 823 00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:41,759 Speaker 4: in your life, bro, Like let's get your spirit the rest. Bro. 824 00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:46,399 Speaker 3: How does that work in the locker room? Though? Who's 825 00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:47,239 Speaker 3: going to control the music? 826 00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:49,480 Speaker 1: Whoever get it first? Rus? 827 00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:51,200 Speaker 3: Is that how it is? 828 00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:52,839 Speaker 2: So it's like it's just once, it's just a sound 829 00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:56,320 Speaker 2: system for an entire locker room. Like each each locker 830 00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:58,799 Speaker 2: I have my little Beats pill and I could listen 831 00:34:58,840 --> 00:34:59,399 Speaker 2: to my ship. 832 00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:02,320 Speaker 4: So the new facility in Vegas they had like the 833 00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:05,000 Speaker 4: you can control the whole locker room with somebody get 834 00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:08,239 Speaker 4: the somebody whoever gets to the ox first. But then 835 00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:10,040 Speaker 4: there would be times like in the Oakland locker room 836 00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:12,680 Speaker 4: they spook. He would have his own speaker in his 837 00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:14,800 Speaker 4: locker and he would be doing like kind of like 838 00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:17,360 Speaker 4: a little like block party type shit, and like he 839 00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:20,640 Speaker 4: would make the rookies rap and uh and just would 840 00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:22,759 Speaker 4: just be in their host and he was in I 841 00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:23,120 Speaker 4: like that. 842 00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:25,040 Speaker 1: So it's you get a whole lot of different environment. 843 00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:26,600 Speaker 3: Me instead of giving the game balls, should just be 844 00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:28,719 Speaker 3: here's dogs of the record. Yeah, whoever played the best, 845 00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:29,080 Speaker 3: Here you go. 846 00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:32,040 Speaker 2: That's like that has to be like an honor to 847 00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:33,680 Speaker 2: be like for the team, they'd be like, yo, Darren, 848 00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:34,560 Speaker 2: you got the ox Court. 849 00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:35,959 Speaker 3: What do you play first? 850 00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:38,480 Speaker 2: If you get the ox Court and it's the biggest 851 00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:41,240 Speaker 2: game of the season, you got the Chiefs. 852 00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:47,719 Speaker 4: You got the Chiefs. What's a great beat? I feel 853 00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:49,560 Speaker 4: like the best pre game beat of all time might 854 00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:55,760 Speaker 4: be the Family Ties baby keeam Okay, yeah, something about horns. 855 00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:59,200 Speaker 4: It is like getting ready something great. Probably be the 856 00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:01,160 Speaker 4: first first beat I'm playing. 857 00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:01,720 Speaker 1: Okay. 858 00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:06,480 Speaker 3: I feel like when I was in high school, we ready. 859 00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:08,279 Speaker 3: I think it was Bubba Sparks and Archie or some 860 00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:11,040 Speaker 3: ship that was the go to any football game, no 861 00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:13,719 Speaker 3: matter what school he was playing, they played that first. 862 00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:16,920 Speaker 3: That might be like top five football anthems to me. 863 00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:20,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I remember fucking coming up in Georgia. Pastor Troy. 864 00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:23,640 Speaker 3: Yeah anything Pastor Troy is going off for the football game. 865 00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:26,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, and vice versa will have a nigga ready to 866 00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:27,960 Speaker 1: just blackout. 867 00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:30,000 Speaker 4: We have a. 868 00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:33,680 Speaker 2: We have a new label mate. We shout out to 869 00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:37,439 Speaker 2: the volume with with the volume Now, Shannon Shark. Yeah, 870 00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:41,520 Speaker 2: where the Shannon rank on your all time tight end list? 871 00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:44,319 Speaker 3: Oh? 872 00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:48,600 Speaker 1: Man, Shannon Sharp was tough too, not according to Skip, but. 873 00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:53,720 Speaker 4: I don't know if he's top five, but that cannot 874 00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:56,960 Speaker 4: be take it as an insul whatsoever. So who's your 875 00:36:57,000 --> 00:37:01,560 Speaker 4: top five? He's got to be in There's gotta be 876 00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:06,560 Speaker 4: in there. Antonio Gates has to be in there, got 877 00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:06,960 Speaker 4: to be there. 878 00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:11,320 Speaker 1: Who else? Off numbers? 879 00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:13,200 Speaker 4: You gotta put Jason Witten in there, and you gotta 880 00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:16,200 Speaker 4: put Tony Gonzalez in there. I'm not mad at that 881 00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:19,640 Speaker 4: far so and then after that, I mean, a dude, 882 00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:21,560 Speaker 4: that made me think that I could play tight end 883 00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:23,160 Speaker 4: with my bill because I played receiver first. 884 00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:28,040 Speaker 1: Jimmy Gramley's on the Saints was different, but I mean 885 00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:29,480 Speaker 1: I could. 886 00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:32,600 Speaker 4: I could make an argue for Shannon Sharp at six right, 887 00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:36,080 Speaker 4: But it's man it's so many a lot of good 888 00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:36,440 Speaker 4: tight ends. 889 00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:38,840 Speaker 1: In the fact, I'm leaving some some people out probably 890 00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:40,400 Speaker 1: too with who I just named that that. 891 00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:45,000 Speaker 2: Five is is solid Shannon just from watching the game. 892 00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:46,520 Speaker 2: Shannon is in my top five. 893 00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:46,719 Speaker 3: Though. 894 00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:49,239 Speaker 2: I like Antonio Gates, but I think i'm I think 895 00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:52,359 Speaker 2: I go Shannon Sharp before Antonio Gates though. 896 00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:55,759 Speaker 3: Yeah, I saw more of Antonio Gates with my age. 897 00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:58,120 Speaker 3: I caught like the very tail end of that Broncos 898 00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:01,560 Speaker 3: team with Shannon Sharp. Antonio Gates was the man was different. 899 00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:04,000 Speaker 1: I was and never played football like he was out. 900 00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:05,919 Speaker 3: There running like a four to three up the seam 901 00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:06,520 Speaker 3: as a tight end. 902 00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:09,400 Speaker 2: He was different, different, foul bro No, he was listening. 903 00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:13,320 Speaker 2: That's that five is incredible. But me, my personal I 904 00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:15,479 Speaker 2: don't think I can name five Titans better than Shanni. 905 00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:16,359 Speaker 1: I'm not mad at that either. 906 00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:19,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, what was that transition? Like, going from wide receiver 907 00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:22,920 Speaker 3: tight end in the NFL not college, Like, that's a 908 00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:24,480 Speaker 3: whole different monster to change position. 909 00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:26,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, so I feel like I had some there's some 910 00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:28,680 Speaker 4: solid vets that tight end in Baltimore, like that Ben 911 00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:31,040 Speaker 4: Watson played in the league for a long time. He 912 00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:33,600 Speaker 4: was kind of there, like giving me some pointers and 913 00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:36,040 Speaker 4: then like past game, being a receiver, I just had 914 00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:37,759 Speaker 4: to learn how to like navigate because now you're trying 915 00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:39,600 Speaker 4: to gather away a d lineman and linebackers and they're 916 00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:41,680 Speaker 4: trying to fucking hit you and shit. But it was 917 00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:48,080 Speaker 4: the fucking run blocking. This was twenty sixteen. We had 918 00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:52,600 Speaker 4: Terrelle Sucks at the time. Matt Judon was a rookie. 919 00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:56,160 Speaker 4: Who's the All Pro now, Elvis Duomerville. I don't know 920 00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:57,799 Speaker 4: if you remember who that is. Then he was All 921 00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:01,840 Speaker 4: Pro with the Broncos. Who else was there is the 922 00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:03,200 Speaker 4: Darius Smith was a rookie. 923 00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:04,879 Speaker 1: He was in my class. And I'm having to block 924 00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:07,160 Speaker 1: these dudes every day and they're fucking. 925 00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:11,239 Speaker 4: Caving me into the backfield, like anytime they run a 926 00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:13,520 Speaker 4: run play behind me, Like there's like if you were 927 00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:15,160 Speaker 4: in like a wide zone play, you basically just got 928 00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:17,319 Speaker 4: to keep him at the line of scrimmage. But they're 929 00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:19,640 Speaker 4: so strong and I'm so I'm just like new at this. 930 00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:22,839 Speaker 4: I don't know how to block in this setting. They're 931 00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:24,799 Speaker 4: driving me five yards in the backfield. A run play 932 00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:26,440 Speaker 4: can't get started. They got to cut back and do 933 00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:29,160 Speaker 4: all some crazy shit. But it was like going through 934 00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:32,480 Speaker 4: that period was like kind of broke me in to like, 935 00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:33,920 Speaker 4: all right, I have to do this because if I 936 00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:35,520 Speaker 4: only come in on passing down, they're gonna be like, 937 00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:38,000 Speaker 4: all this nigga does catch, but you got to learn 938 00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:41,480 Speaker 4: to be out there ninety percent of the snaps so 939 00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:45,399 Speaker 4: they can't pick up on the offensive tendencies. So yeah, 940 00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:46,640 Speaker 4: you gotta hold your own out there. But that was 941 00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:47,200 Speaker 4: a good time for me. 942 00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:49,880 Speaker 2: Speaking of that, who was the first player or when 943 00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:53,239 Speaker 2: was the first time in the NFL that you got 944 00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:57,359 Speaker 2: hit and you started reconsidering this line of work. 945 00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:02,880 Speaker 4: Well, I didn't reconsider I was. It was Dante Whitner. 946 00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:04,960 Speaker 4: You remember him, say for the forty nine ers. He 947 00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:07,040 Speaker 4: was like one of the last breed of safeties. That's like, 948 00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:09,640 Speaker 4: you come over here, I'm knocking you old ship off right, 949 00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:13,520 Speaker 4: And yeah, I ran like a so we ran like 950 00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:15,799 Speaker 4: a play action roll out. I'm running an over route 951 00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:18,680 Speaker 4: across the field and I'm like, you could see something 952 00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:20,120 Speaker 4: out of your peripherals, but I think he was like 953 00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:22,120 Speaker 4: in the deep half, so I'm like I didn't even 954 00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:24,080 Speaker 4: really feel him there, and I'm like, oh, this is up, 955 00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:26,759 Speaker 4: Like I catch this, I'm turning fuck hit me in 956 00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:28,560 Speaker 4: my chest and I got a concussion. 957 00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:33,160 Speaker 3: Because my neck just went like the crash. 958 00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:38,759 Speaker 1: Like the crash commercials. Yeah yeah, and like and I hit. 959 00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:41,040 Speaker 4: The ground and I'm on like the if you're looking 960 00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:42,560 Speaker 4: at the field from like a bird's eye. I'm on 961 00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:45,400 Speaker 4: the numbers on the right side. Our sideline was all 962 00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:47,040 Speaker 4: the way on the other side. I crawled to like 963 00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:48,600 Speaker 4: the midfield logo. I was like, I got to get 964 00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:50,200 Speaker 4: up for my own pride. I gotta get up. I 965 00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:52,720 Speaker 4: gotta get up. And then I went over to the sideline. 966 00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:56,080 Speaker 4: I was like, take me to the locker room. They 967 00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:57,600 Speaker 4: get you right there and they try to evaluate you 968 00:40:57,640 --> 00:40:59,399 Speaker 4: for concussion and most things. Like I'm staying in the game. 969 00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:03,800 Speaker 3: I was like, I'm taken myself. My whole brain rattle. 970 00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:04,319 Speaker 3: I missed. 971 00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:07,160 Speaker 4: I missed the next game the following week because I 972 00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:09,680 Speaker 4: was still having like like like for four days. 973 00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:12,120 Speaker 3: I'm like, I can't be in the room. I'm sitting 974 00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:14,239 Speaker 3: in his lights. Bro I'm cooked, Like he did he 975 00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:16,400 Speaker 3: at least like check up on you did he reached? 976 00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:18,640 Speaker 4: This was so this is my first game, Like I 977 00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:21,920 Speaker 4: started that game and and so I'm running routes and 978 00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:23,640 Speaker 4: he had covered me on some and I'm like getting 979 00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:25,760 Speaker 4: loose because he wasn't like the best coverage safety. 980 00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:27,600 Speaker 1: He was good enough, but I got him a couple 981 00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:27,919 Speaker 1: of holes. 982 00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:30,560 Speaker 4: And I'll call myself chirping at him, okay, and then 983 00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:32,560 Speaker 4: uh he heard the only thing I remember with him 984 00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:33,319 Speaker 4: standing over me like. 985 00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:37,520 Speaker 1: It was like you should. 986 00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:43,040 Speaker 3: Ship but I should have known better. See the mouth movement. 987 00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:46,399 Speaker 3: Who's the best ship talking defensive back in the league 988 00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:47,080 Speaker 3: that you had to deal with? 989 00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:52,239 Speaker 4: From when I played, it was I never experienced Richard 990 00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:56,360 Speaker 4: Sherman in person, so but from just the audio clips, 991 00:41:56,440 --> 00:42:03,520 Speaker 4: but Tying Matthew, Oh god, that was activated activated ship. 992 00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:05,680 Speaker 3: Talking, and I feel like it must suck, is the 993 00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:07,200 Speaker 3: tight end because you have to deal with the D 994 00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:10,320 Speaker 3: line ship talking, then sometimes the linebackers, and then always 995 00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:11,200 Speaker 3: the DB's. 996 00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:16,319 Speaker 4: Yeah and Chauncey Gardner Johnson okay, yeah, whenever Nigga say 997 00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:19,160 Speaker 4: his name, crash out man. 998 00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:22,080 Speaker 3: Who is worse D line linebackers or DB's when it came. 999 00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:23,680 Speaker 1: To DB's have the biggest like you say, like you go. 1000 00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:25,719 Speaker 4: Into the club and it's like D line, I'm out, Yeah, 1001 00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:28,279 Speaker 4: the craziest egos or DB's which you kind of have 1002 00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:29,560 Speaker 4: to have to play defensive back. 1003 00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:30,640 Speaker 3: Yes, that's the hardest. 1004 00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:32,600 Speaker 1: That's the hardest outside of quarterback. 1005 00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:34,560 Speaker 3: In this position. It's like I have a tie with 1006 00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:35,360 Speaker 3: like left tackle. 1007 00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:38,160 Speaker 4: But playing dB in the league, you got to have 1008 00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:41,040 Speaker 4: delusional confidence, yeah, because a nigga could cook you. And 1009 00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:43,680 Speaker 4: it's like that doesn't mean you're trash, Like these things 1010 00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:46,719 Speaker 4: are running four threes and they're running forward. Yeah, and 1011 00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:49,400 Speaker 4: you're right. Yeah, so dB is you got to be delusional. 1012 00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:51,400 Speaker 4: So I'm not even mad at them niggas for even 1013 00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:51,840 Speaker 4: acting like that. 1014 00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:54,839 Speaker 2: You got to So there, Let's talk about your music 1015 00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:57,000 Speaker 2: career a little bit. Let's talk about you you making music. 1016 00:42:57,600 --> 00:42:59,080 Speaker 3: I came out to Gate hating because he got a 1017 00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:01,200 Speaker 3: West Side booge future for I did. Yeah, how did 1018 00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:03,319 Speaker 3: that's my man? Family? 1019 00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:06,440 Speaker 4: How did that feature come about? Shout to my boy 1020 00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:10,200 Speaker 4: Cali and uh, I know Junior over at lv r N. Yeah, 1021 00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:14,719 Speaker 4: I played JV basketball with Justice too. Really but yeah, 1022 00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:17,400 Speaker 4: don't you is it Justice? Justice already think he likes 1023 00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:19,839 Speaker 4: super nice and ball. I played ball with Justice before. 1024 00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:24,239 Speaker 4: He's much better than I expected pre dreads. Yeah but 1025 00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:26,440 Speaker 4: uh but yeah, I played basketball with Junior all through 1026 00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:29,960 Speaker 4: high school. So reaching out to him through my boy 1027 00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:32,400 Speaker 4: Cali Like it was pretty easy to set up. He 1028 00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:35,920 Speaker 4: was accessible and happened smoothly. I felt like he was 1029 00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:37,120 Speaker 4: a perfect fit for the record. 1030 00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:39,720 Speaker 2: So you so you actually was looking forward to getting 1031 00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:42,600 Speaker 2: out wrapped because Boogie can he can go. So you 1032 00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:47,200 Speaker 2: welcomed that absolutely, man Like, So I'm it would be 1033 00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:50,160 Speaker 2: honored to make music with people that I respect their craft. 1034 00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:50,800 Speaker 1: And and listen to. 1035 00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:53,680 Speaker 3: So it was, Yeah, when did you make that decision 1036 00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:56,920 Speaker 3: that you wanted to go full music? Was it before retirement? 1037 00:43:57,040 --> 00:43:59,920 Speaker 3: Was this something that was always sitting there, like as 1038 00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:01,520 Speaker 3: soon as I'm done with this NFL shit, I can 1039 00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:02,800 Speaker 3: finally fully focus on this. 1040 00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:06,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I was just excited about devoting more 1041 00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:08,680 Speaker 4: time to it. I don't know if I'm an artist 1042 00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:12,480 Speaker 4: that is like full time, like every day in the studio. 1043 00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:15,200 Speaker 4: I feel like I got to have like experiences that, yeah, 1044 00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:17,839 Speaker 4: kind of motivate me to write. It's a regular thing, 1045 00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:20,080 Speaker 4: but it's like not every day. But I am grateful, 1046 00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:21,719 Speaker 4: but I have more time to do it. I've been 1047 00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:25,000 Speaker 4: making music since twenty fifteen, so it's not like I'm 1048 00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:27,000 Speaker 4: just like now like I'm gonna make music. It's like 1049 00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:29,320 Speaker 4: some people knew about it, some people didn't I was dropping, 1050 00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:33,160 Speaker 4: but yeah, I'm excited to have more time to do 1051 00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:35,759 Speaker 4: it and express myself and see what this pocket of 1052 00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:38,160 Speaker 4: my life has in store for me as an artist. 1053 00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:39,440 Speaker 1: I felt there's, you know, some. 1054 00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:41,920 Speaker 4: Kind of journey from me here and I it's what 1055 00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:43,480 Speaker 4: I feel like I should be doing and want to 1056 00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:44,080 Speaker 4: be doing right now. 1057 00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:45,920 Speaker 1: So I'm just like, fuck it all right. 1058 00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:48,359 Speaker 3: Did you ever try to battle anyone in the locker room? 1059 00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:49,239 Speaker 1: Nah? 1060 00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:50,399 Speaker 3: I kind of learned. 1061 00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:53,600 Speaker 4: That's kind of what started my career was in high school, 1062 00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:56,000 Speaker 4: dudes on the team would put on an instrumental ice 1063 00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:58,600 Speaker 4: cream paint job at the time was a favorite go 1064 00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:02,480 Speaker 4: to freestyle, and we'd freestyle and dudes could flow like 1065 00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:05,719 Speaker 4: I could give you two well fought out lines, but 1066 00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:09,160 Speaker 4: then it's like my game is moving so fast that 1067 00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:11,719 Speaker 4: it's just like hindering me from just waxing in the. 1068 00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:16,799 Speaker 2: Moment having two bars, and that's it is crazy King 1069 00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:19,840 Speaker 2: Drick like Pulitzer Prize lines. 1070 00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:22,040 Speaker 1: And then it's like I can't go anymore. 1071 00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:25,880 Speaker 3: Because once the ice cream paint job instrumental comes on, 1072 00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:28,560 Speaker 3: two three people start rapping. I could come up with 1073 00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:30,759 Speaker 3: like two or four great bars in the moment, and 1074 00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:32,800 Speaker 3: then I'll wrap them and I'll stop be like I 1075 00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:36,120 Speaker 3: didn't think this through, like like yeah, now what it's over. 1076 00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:38,000 Speaker 3: I got that off now because they even look at 1077 00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:39,359 Speaker 3: you like all right, it was cool for and then 1078 00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:41,239 Speaker 3: you're just like all you know what, Yeah, I'm going 1079 00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:41,799 Speaker 3: get it right there. 1080 00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:43,640 Speaker 1: I'm like, I feel like if I wrote some ship 1081 00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:45,200 Speaker 1: like I might be all right. Yeah. That's how I 1082 00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:46,680 Speaker 1: started making music just off of that. 1083 00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:48,640 Speaker 3: Okay, did you keep it to yourself at that point 1084 00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:49,040 Speaker 3: or the. 1085 00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:51,000 Speaker 1: First two years of making music? I kept to myself. 1086 00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:51,320 Speaker 1: I was. 1087 00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:54,120 Speaker 4: It was like right after I got drafted into the league. 1088 00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:56,760 Speaker 4: I was they had the rookies in the hotel garage 1089 00:45:56,800 --> 00:46:01,600 Speaker 4: band pulled up. I was wrapping into the I phone, earbudds, 1090 00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:04,840 Speaker 4: wired ones and in the garage band and just like 1091 00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:08,640 Speaker 4: ripping beats off and just went for two years without knowing. 1092 00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:10,960 Speaker 4: And then I went to a studio back home. There 1093 00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:12,360 Speaker 4: was a dude that was on a football team, is 1094 00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:13,640 Speaker 4: a few years older than me. He had a studio 1095 00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:15,759 Speaker 4: at his house and I was rapping there and then 1096 00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:18,600 Speaker 4: one of my homies made beats and found out he 1097 00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:19,840 Speaker 4: was like, now we got to lock in. 1098 00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:22,040 Speaker 1: And then from there, it was just like, yeah, been 1099 00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:23,799 Speaker 1: creating for almost ten years. 1100 00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:26,600 Speaker 3: Now, is there more athletes that do wrap or more 1101 00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:27,879 Speaker 3: focused on music than we think? 1102 00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:30,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a lot of dudes love it, man, a 1103 00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:30,799 Speaker 1: lot of dudes. 1104 00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:32,799 Speaker 4: It's a good balance. Like for me, I had been 1105 00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:35,040 Speaker 4: doing it the whole time. It's like it honestly like 1106 00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:38,280 Speaker 4: contributed to my career because it gave me that balance. 1107 00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:40,239 Speaker 4: Like when I stepped out of the building, it's like 1108 00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:42,320 Speaker 4: I can go home and cook something up and it 1109 00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:44,640 Speaker 4: like takes me out of this performance mindset, allows me 1110 00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:47,399 Speaker 4: to just relax and then I can pour back into 1111 00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:48,960 Speaker 4: it more the next day because I've got something that 1112 00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:51,960 Speaker 4: I'm looking forward to. Yeah, after and but yeah, nobody 1113 00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:54,000 Speaker 4: was really dropping, Like I remember twenty nineteen, I was 1114 00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:56,680 Speaker 4: like I dropped my first project, like I was out 1115 00:46:56,719 --> 00:46:57,800 Speaker 4: of the league and suspended. 1116 00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:01,040 Speaker 1: But nineteen I dropped. 1117 00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:02,719 Speaker 4: I was like, I'm just gonna do this because like 1118 00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:04,880 Speaker 4: I'm the best player on the team right now, Like 1119 00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:07,759 Speaker 4: it's not hindering my crafty. I'm just about to drop it. 1120 00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:10,680 Speaker 4: And then I think from there, like I don't know 1121 00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:12,759 Speaker 4: if people maybe felt more comfortable. I don't want to 1122 00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:16,200 Speaker 4: say like I'm the only pioneer of this, but nobody 1123 00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:18,440 Speaker 4: was really dropping. Now athletes just like dropping whenever. 1124 00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:22,080 Speaker 3: They think Arion Foster, Yeah yeah, I read his album 1125 00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:25,080 Speaker 3: He's he could Wrap. He was real, real, like he 1126 00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:27,200 Speaker 3: surprised me. I went into it like all right, let 1127 00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:29,919 Speaker 3: me me not go in with judgments. But I didn't 1128 00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:31,120 Speaker 3: think it was going to be as good as it 1129 00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:33,480 Speaker 3: actually was, and he was confident with that shit too. 1130 00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:37,040 Speaker 3: I appreciate that athletes go into it taking it serious, 1131 00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:39,919 Speaker 3: where others will, you know, see it as a lick 1132 00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:43,759 Speaker 3: post career shit. But I do see that you are 1133 00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:48,040 Speaker 3: taking a serious Have you taken the comments from music 1134 00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:53,279 Speaker 3: more to heart than the NFL comments like post game shit, 1135 00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:57,239 Speaker 3: because it is like you're burying your fucking soul out 1136 00:47:57,320 --> 00:48:00,160 Speaker 3: on rare and maybe a comment may hurt a little 1137 00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:02,000 Speaker 3: bit more than you know, my parlay didn't hit. 1138 00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:05,279 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, people come at you crazy like, but yeah, 1139 00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:06,680 Speaker 4: you kind of. I kind of get used to it 1140 00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:08,680 Speaker 4: from football a little bit, but now it's like, yeah, 1141 00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:11,000 Speaker 4: I don't really get myself access. I got the fucking 1142 00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:14,000 Speaker 4: light phone, I got people that run my socials, so 1143 00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:15,320 Speaker 4: it's like I'm not even not even looking at the 1144 00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:19,680 Speaker 4: ship getting access to I know there natural resistance of like, nah, bro, 1145 00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:22,759 Speaker 4: like I know you as this as you're doing and 1146 00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:25,160 Speaker 4: doing that, which is like that this is. 1147 00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:31,640 Speaker 3: Why a lot of Paul you busy writing rom But 1148 00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:34,760 Speaker 3: I feel like, even you know, outside of the parlaytionshi 1149 00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:37,399 Speaker 3: where it affects people's lives, you're putting out who new 1150 00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:41,080 Speaker 3: record is about your life? That to me is way 1151 00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:44,640 Speaker 3: more brave than going out on the field and expecting 1152 00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:47,480 Speaker 3: some commentators, some fucking fat ass fan to comment on 1153 00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:50,840 Speaker 3: what you're doing. Like, was that a whole process in 1154 00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:53,920 Speaker 3: your brain to even put that out? Not really you 1155 00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:55,400 Speaker 3: know what people are going to tie it to, and 1156 00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:57,080 Speaker 3: like it's just going to be a whole for me. 1157 00:48:57,280 --> 00:48:59,080 Speaker 4: It was like it got created and it was like 1158 00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:01,759 Speaker 4: I really fuck with this, and then it's like I 1159 00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:03,839 Speaker 4: feel like the mix up was I didn't give any 1160 00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:08,239 Speaker 4: context to what the record was because people were probably like, oh, 1161 00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:10,960 Speaker 4: like my chick stabbed me in my back. It was 1162 00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:14,000 Speaker 4: like the song was called who Knew Her Perspective? So 1163 00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:16,200 Speaker 4: the meaning by the song, you know, people write from 1164 00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:19,320 Speaker 4: different perspectives, so I'm like, I recognize the patterns in 1165 00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:21,640 Speaker 4: my relationships are kind of all the same. So the 1166 00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:24,000 Speaker 4: thinking was if the girl had to pin and wrote 1167 00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:26,480 Speaker 4: me a song, what would it be? And so, and 1168 00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:29,399 Speaker 4: then in the disconnect was in the video, I'm really 1169 00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:33,200 Speaker 4: the girl that's experiencing the pain like stepping into her shoes. 1170 00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:35,920 Speaker 4: It's not me, like being stabbed in the back. She 1171 00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:38,879 Speaker 4: put the post out and was saying like YadA, YadA, YadA. 1172 00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:41,000 Speaker 4: So it's like, I'm not defending myself like this is 1173 00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:44,480 Speaker 4: this is, this is what happened. I'm just expressing my art. 1174 00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:46,960 Speaker 4: And people were probably, yeah, took it a million different 1175 00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:50,040 Speaker 4: types of ways, but that's kind of a risky run 1176 00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:50,680 Speaker 4: putting it out there. 1177 00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:55,040 Speaker 3: Of course, but you had you were married, you divorced. 1178 00:49:55,120 --> 00:49:59,200 Speaker 2: Now you were married to WNBA star Kelsey Kelsey Plumb 1179 00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:02,520 Speaker 2: who was a better shooter between you and Kelsey because 1180 00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:03,400 Speaker 2: you played basketball. 1181 00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:05,400 Speaker 3: Have y'all ever win it? 1182 00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:12,520 Speaker 1: To me, it's not, Yeah, she is out most niggas, NBA, wherever, wherever. 1183 00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:17,000 Speaker 3: But what does that do? 1184 00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:18,920 Speaker 2: What does that do for the Because you're an athlete, 1185 00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:24,320 Speaker 2: you're you're, you're, you're your your competitive both professional athletes. 1186 00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:26,040 Speaker 3: But what does that do for the ego? 1187 00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:28,640 Speaker 2: Now if you and you know Kelsey are and the 1188 00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:30,920 Speaker 2: gym y'all shooting against each other and she blows out, 1189 00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:32,879 Speaker 2: like what is the conversation like on the ride home 1190 00:50:33,560 --> 00:50:34,239 Speaker 2: after leaving the. 1191 00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:37,520 Speaker 3: Gym, Uh, it's you do this ship every day that 1192 00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:38,160 Speaker 3: the period. 1193 00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:41,279 Speaker 2: I'm happy, I sort of you know how we are 1194 00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:42,920 Speaker 2: as men though, like we know, I don't care if 1195 00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:44,680 Speaker 2: wife he is a w n B A star, Like 1196 00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:47,160 Speaker 2: if I played in the local rec league, I feel 1197 00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:47,800 Speaker 2: like I should. 1198 00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:48,319 Speaker 3: Outshoot my wife. 1199 00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:51,040 Speaker 1: That's that's not a it's not a regular. 1200 00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:53,600 Speaker 3: If I'm just saying the ego all would take her 1201 00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:54,920 Speaker 3: to the football field to run routes, Like. 1202 00:50:55,719 --> 00:51:00,720 Speaker 2: That's that's what you should. Absolutely absolutely you've seen loving basketball. 1203 00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:02,320 Speaker 2: But yeah, absolutely, this is what we got to do. 1204 00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:06,640 Speaker 2: Your Darren Waller Foundation, Yeah, talk to us about the. 1205 00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:07,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, which I think is super important. 1206 00:51:08,040 --> 00:51:10,759 Speaker 1: And yeah, I connect that. I was approached with the 1207 00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:12,320 Speaker 1: opportunity to start that in twenty twenty. 1208 00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:16,920 Speaker 4: We've been really just giving people access to treatment to 1209 00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:21,000 Speaker 4: go to thirty days and rehab, to have aftercare sober living. 1210 00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:24,400 Speaker 4: Because the league sent me to treatment for free. It 1211 00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:26,719 Speaker 4: was like sixty five thousand dollars for where they sent 1212 00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:29,200 Speaker 4: me for thirty days. But that shit changed my life, 1213 00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:32,439 Speaker 4: so it's like I'm in a position now to give 1214 00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:34,440 Speaker 4: and serve, Like I feel like it's important for me 1215 00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:37,480 Speaker 4: to pass this on. So that foundation has been going 1216 00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:39,960 Speaker 4: for five years now. We've said, I think the numbers 1217 00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:44,040 Speaker 4: like seventy two people through. Yeah, treatment, it's kind of crazy, 1218 00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:45,719 Speaker 4: you know, like not even thinking I'd ever be back 1219 00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:47,640 Speaker 4: in the league, and now I'm here and using my 1220 00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:51,640 Speaker 4: influence to help these people, you know, get back on 1221 00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:53,080 Speaker 4: their feet like I got back on mind. 1222 00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:55,560 Speaker 3: So yeah, is it tough to talk about your lowest 1223 00:51:55,600 --> 00:51:56,160 Speaker 3: lows with them? 1224 00:51:57,320 --> 00:51:59,480 Speaker 4: Not really because I look at them and I see me, 1225 00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:02,360 Speaker 4: And that's why I feel like I try to be 1226 00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:04,440 Speaker 4: like you were talking about, like more open, because a 1227 00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:06,360 Speaker 4: lot of people probably look at athletes or people that 1228 00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:09,000 Speaker 4: are successful and think, man, like they're so high off 1229 00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:11,479 Speaker 4: I can't even touch them or access them where it's like, nah. 1230 00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:13,840 Speaker 1: Bro, Like my mind is crazy just like yours. 1231 00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:17,800 Speaker 4: Like I got emotions, I have, you know, tough times, 1232 00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:20,040 Speaker 4: like I got family issues, I got whatever it. 1233 00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:22,319 Speaker 1: May be, Like I'm more like you than you think. 1234 00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:25,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, all I ever did was just continue to invest 1235 00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:30,800 Speaker 4: in my craft and life. Somehow got me here. But 1236 00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:33,640 Speaker 4: there's nothing that you can't do no hole you can't 1237 00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:35,279 Speaker 4: get out of. That's the kind of message that I 1238 00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:37,520 Speaker 4: feel like I'm trying to get people because that's real life. 1239 00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:39,000 Speaker 4: I can get up here and be like, yeah, I 1240 00:52:39,120 --> 00:52:42,400 Speaker 4: don't I got no problems, everything's great, Like I'm not 1241 00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:44,719 Speaker 4: giving an authentic message to people that can help them 1242 00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:46,400 Speaker 4: through their day to day So I'm just trying. 1243 00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:50,520 Speaker 3: To Yeah, And I think substance abuse ends up getting 1244 00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:54,279 Speaker 3: a weird rap because they may associate it with like 1245 00:52:54,520 --> 00:52:57,719 Speaker 3: fiend shit or bumshit or whatever, not realizing that it 1246 00:52:57,880 --> 00:53:00,120 Speaker 3: is people that you see on TV that have the 1247 00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:02,279 Speaker 3: same exact issues that someone else may have, or even 1248 00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:04,920 Speaker 3: people that just work corporate jobs may have substance abuse. 1249 00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:07,760 Speaker 3: What would you say is the first step to somebody's 1250 00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:10,719 Speaker 3: thinking about getting help but can't really figure out how 1251 00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:12,080 Speaker 3: to do it without feeling embarrassed. 1252 00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:18,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, there's got to be an awareness of like where 1253 00:53:18,719 --> 00:53:25,080 Speaker 4: I'm currently at, Like no reservations, no like ego involved, 1254 00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:26,799 Speaker 4: Like it's got to be like how do I get 1255 00:53:26,840 --> 00:53:29,839 Speaker 4: the most authentic picture of where I'm at? Because if 1256 00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:32,360 Speaker 4: I'm still delusional in some way or in denial, like 1257 00:53:32,840 --> 00:53:34,799 Speaker 4: there's no way I can be helped. Yeah, And there's 1258 00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:37,120 Speaker 4: got to be a point to where you get so 1259 00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:39,960 Speaker 4: tired of what's been going on because for me, like 1260 00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:41,840 Speaker 4: I got to crash and burn for me to be 1261 00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:43,440 Speaker 4: like all right, I'll change, like I'll do something different. 1262 00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:47,399 Speaker 4: So it's like getting to that place of like I'm 1263 00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:51,319 Speaker 4: really done, not like not like like it's like, nah, bro, 1264 00:53:51,560 --> 00:53:52,440 Speaker 4: like help me. 1265 00:53:53,239 --> 00:53:55,320 Speaker 3: Did you have that rock bottom moment that was like 1266 00:53:55,480 --> 00:53:57,840 Speaker 3: this is it? I thought it was this rock bottom 1267 00:53:57,840 --> 00:53:59,879 Speaker 3: moment before, but now this is the rock bottom moment. 1268 00:54:02,320 --> 00:54:02,560 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1269 00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:06,440 Speaker 4: I mean I would always say before like the like 1270 00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:08,719 Speaker 4: the like O Dan was the biggest rock bottom, but 1271 00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:12,320 Speaker 4: I would say, you know, probably last year was probably 1272 00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:16,560 Speaker 4: even more like like being like man, I don't even 1273 00:54:16,560 --> 00:54:19,640 Speaker 4: want to be playing this game anymore, Like you know, 1274 00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:24,360 Speaker 4: this marriage is just deteriorating, like like I and I 1275 00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:26,280 Speaker 4: feel like I'm still trying to put forward this image 1276 00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:29,800 Speaker 4: like everything's great, Like so I've repeatedly hit this wall, 1277 00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:33,880 Speaker 4: like the root of the problem still hasn't totally been addressed. 1278 00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:36,279 Speaker 4: Like I've just you know, kind of seen a lot 1279 00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:38,360 Speaker 4: of success and a lot of cool moments and highs 1280 00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:40,839 Speaker 4: along the way, but there's still something that's unaddressed here. 1281 00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:43,640 Speaker 4: So it's like coming to that realization, it's like, fuck, bro, Like, 1282 00:54:43,680 --> 00:54:46,440 Speaker 4: I've been sober for seven years and I feel like 1283 00:54:46,760 --> 00:54:48,640 Speaker 4: I've just been spinning my tires has been spinning in 1284 00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:49,080 Speaker 4: the mud here. 1285 00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:51,000 Speaker 1: I ain't really been making no progress like a fucking 1286 00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:51,600 Speaker 1: hamster wheel. 1287 00:54:52,040 --> 00:54:54,160 Speaker 4: So I would say that was probably more of a 1288 00:54:54,200 --> 00:54:56,720 Speaker 4: bottom yeah than odan was, which is crazy. 1289 00:54:56,800 --> 00:54:57,399 Speaker 1: Yeah. Wow. 1290 00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:02,000 Speaker 2: What would you say to a young Darren Waller first 1291 00:55:02,200 --> 00:55:04,759 Speaker 2: going to college and then looking at where your life 1292 00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:07,680 Speaker 2: is at now? What would you say to Darren back then? 1293 00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:08,120 Speaker 1: Today? 1294 00:55:10,120 --> 00:55:15,480 Speaker 4: I would say, you gotta define what it is you 1295 00:55:15,719 --> 00:55:19,360 Speaker 4: want and who you want to be and not be 1296 00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:22,239 Speaker 4: overtaken by the current of what the world wants you 1297 00:55:22,320 --> 00:55:24,719 Speaker 4: to be. Because I feel like I succeeded a lot 1298 00:55:24,719 --> 00:55:26,479 Speaker 4: at who the world, who I thought the world wanted 1299 00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:29,560 Speaker 4: me to be. Where it was like being a ring leader, 1300 00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:32,040 Speaker 4: getting sucked up in college or in football, and like 1301 00:55:32,040 --> 00:55:32,480 Speaker 4: all these things. 1302 00:55:32,520 --> 00:55:34,040 Speaker 1: I'm like, all right, I'm who you guys want me 1303 00:55:34,120 --> 00:55:34,279 Speaker 1: to be. 1304 00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:37,920 Speaker 4: But it's boxes are checked, but it's not a fulfillment 1305 00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:40,759 Speaker 4: like deep within, like on a soul level, it's like 1306 00:55:40,880 --> 00:55:43,600 Speaker 4: figuring out what you want and it may not be 1307 00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:47,560 Speaker 4: highest paid, number one. 1308 00:55:47,560 --> 00:55:49,920 Speaker 1: All these things at what it is you really want 1309 00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:50,160 Speaker 1: to do. 1310 00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:52,720 Speaker 4: But it's like if that really is what is filling 1311 00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:55,319 Speaker 4: your cup up and allowing you to just like make 1312 00:55:55,480 --> 00:55:58,239 Speaker 4: the most authentic impact you can, Like that's the life 1313 00:55:58,239 --> 00:56:01,600 Speaker 4: that's fulfilling. Like we're kind of being fed the you know, 1314 00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:03,719 Speaker 4: if you go by these metrics, you're going to be 1315 00:56:03,800 --> 00:56:05,040 Speaker 4: fulfilled and life's gonna be great. 1316 00:56:05,080 --> 00:56:06,640 Speaker 1: And it's like, I'm one of those. 1317 00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:08,920 Speaker 4: People that's like I've checked all those boxes and that's 1318 00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:10,040 Speaker 4: not necessarily the case. 1319 00:56:10,080 --> 00:56:12,520 Speaker 1: So I would tell him, like, you know, trust who 1320 00:56:12,600 --> 00:56:12,839 Speaker 1: you are. 1321 00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:16,880 Speaker 4: Don't feel like you got to abandon that for fitting 1322 00:56:16,920 --> 00:56:18,279 Speaker 4: in because a lot of people you're trying to fit 1323 00:56:18,400 --> 00:56:22,160 Speaker 4: in with are crashing out, yeah after after high school, 1324 00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:23,040 Speaker 4: like you know. 1325 00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:26,160 Speaker 3: And they don't really care about you try to fit 1326 00:56:26,239 --> 00:56:26,640 Speaker 3: in what people? 1327 00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:29,759 Speaker 4: They're so worried about themselves too, and probably thinking of 1328 00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:31,799 Speaker 4: the same things that you're thinking. And you think they're 1329 00:56:31,840 --> 00:56:33,839 Speaker 4: watching you, they ain't really they ain't really caring. 1330 00:56:34,120 --> 00:56:37,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, So what's the plan now that you have who 1331 00:56:37,640 --> 00:56:41,080 Speaker 3: knew out we getting a full album? What's it looking like? 1332 00:56:41,520 --> 00:56:41,640 Speaker 2: Uh? 1333 00:56:42,160 --> 00:56:45,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely an album at some point, Uh my boy, 1334 00:56:45,239 --> 00:56:47,080 Speaker 4: Jay ro I have been cooking up with it was 1335 00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:49,480 Speaker 4: my engineer and he's also an artist's really helping me 1336 00:56:49,560 --> 00:56:50,799 Speaker 4: elevate my sound. 1337 00:56:50,800 --> 00:56:52,480 Speaker 1: We're gonna drop a project together. 1338 00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:54,120 Speaker 3: And you guys have a record out now together, right. 1339 00:56:54,080 --> 00:56:56,279 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's called mind Games, and we got more. The 1340 00:56:56,360 --> 00:56:58,120 Speaker 4: next song I drop will be us called Streets to 1341 00:56:58,120 --> 00:57:01,239 Speaker 4: get Cold with him, he's getting me more into my 1342 00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:02,879 Speaker 4: R and B bag and you know, kind of going 1343 00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:05,279 Speaker 4: through divorces things like that's kind of opening me up 1344 00:57:05,320 --> 00:57:08,600 Speaker 4: to a different, yeah side of myself and being like damn, 1345 00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:09,960 Speaker 4: like all these emotions are here. I don't have to 1346 00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:13,680 Speaker 4: suppress them anymore like I can. So it's just, yeah, 1347 00:57:14,080 --> 00:57:15,120 Speaker 4: experimenting with a lot. 1348 00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:18,080 Speaker 1: Of new things. You have plenty on the way, solo 1349 00:57:18,120 --> 00:57:19,680 Speaker 1: project and a joint project with him. 1350 00:57:19,680 --> 00:57:21,880 Speaker 3: So love it all right, So we're flushing out this 1351 00:57:22,600 --> 00:57:24,880 Speaker 3: segment in real time. We don't really have a name 1352 00:57:24,920 --> 00:57:26,760 Speaker 3: for it. We're talking about one on one, just a 1353 00:57:26,840 --> 00:57:30,120 Speaker 3: bunch of weird, corny sports names about this whole Georgia 1354 00:57:30,200 --> 00:57:33,880 Speaker 3: album versus. So you need to pick one out of 1355 00:57:33,960 --> 00:57:37,440 Speaker 3: the two, and you can't say both outcasts at Aliens 1356 00:57:37,760 --> 00:57:39,680 Speaker 3: Versusquemina mm hm. 1357 00:57:41,160 --> 00:57:45,640 Speaker 4: Oh man, I might have to go at Aliens just 1358 00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:48,800 Speaker 4: off of two Dope Boys in a Cadillac one of 1359 00:57:48,800 --> 00:57:49,120 Speaker 4: the best. 1360 00:57:50,200 --> 00:57:52,240 Speaker 1: Well that shit, I was just in Hawaii. 1361 00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:56,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, Ludacris back for the first Time, or Chicken and Beer. 1362 00:57:59,160 --> 00:58:03,080 Speaker 1: I gotta go Chicken in Beer. Man, it's crazy. 1363 00:58:03,080 --> 00:58:05,240 Speaker 4: I think I was listening to that explicit album as 1364 00:58:05,280 --> 00:58:09,919 Speaker 4: a kid and wondering why uh fucking avenue. 1365 00:58:10,200 --> 00:58:15,160 Speaker 3: Problems I got. It's all Luda Chris's fault. I got 1366 00:58:15,240 --> 00:58:17,200 Speaker 3: back for the first time for my eleventh birthday. I 1367 00:58:17,200 --> 00:58:20,080 Speaker 3: remember at I'm dead ass at the birthday party in 1368 00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:22,920 Speaker 3: our backyard. Somebody that had like the cooler mom that 1369 00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:25,600 Speaker 3: would just like whatever gift and my friend's mom bought 1370 00:58:25,640 --> 00:58:27,040 Speaker 3: it for me Back for the first time. I was 1371 00:58:27,080 --> 00:58:29,880 Speaker 3: eleven years old. Oh my god, you the oldest pretty 1372 00:58:29,960 --> 00:58:32,880 Speaker 3: yess hose. Yeah, I was. I was yelling at yelling 1373 00:58:32,920 --> 00:58:35,800 Speaker 3: at that. That was like Splash Waterfalls. H No, Splash 1374 00:58:35,840 --> 00:58:38,800 Speaker 3: water Falls was on what's the second album that was on? 1375 00:58:38,920 --> 00:58:41,240 Speaker 3: Chicken and Beer. Yeah, Chicken and Beer Back for the 1376 00:58:41,320 --> 00:58:44,120 Speaker 3: First Time was one of my favorites. Gz t on 1377 00:58:44,200 --> 00:58:48,200 Speaker 3: one on one versus Recession going on one man, Absolutely 1378 00:58:48,360 --> 00:58:50,640 Speaker 3: one on one, bro. I agree. But you'd be surprised 1379 00:58:50,680 --> 00:58:53,840 Speaker 3: how many people would say this recession. I'm with y'all, though, Yeah, 1380 00:58:53,920 --> 00:58:56,360 Speaker 3: I got it going on. This is like an age 1381 00:58:56,360 --> 00:59:03,360 Speaker 3: old debate t I Trap music verse King. Mmm, fuck, 1382 00:59:04,280 --> 00:59:06,520 Speaker 3: we're similar in age. I think I know what you're 1383 00:59:06,560 --> 00:59:11,080 Speaker 3: gonna go with. Fuck uh? 1384 00:59:13,520 --> 00:59:14,600 Speaker 1: King had whatever you like? 1385 00:59:15,800 --> 00:59:17,919 Speaker 3: Oh my god, I know paper Trail. I think whatever 1386 00:59:17,920 --> 00:59:20,400 Speaker 3: you like. Let me pull up the King track list? 1387 00:59:21,440 --> 00:59:23,800 Speaker 3: King had? What you know about that? Living the Sky 1388 00:59:23,920 --> 00:59:25,000 Speaker 3: with Jimmy Fox is a. 1389 00:59:25,000 --> 00:59:28,040 Speaker 1: Huge God damn that was a hit in middle school. 1390 00:59:29,240 --> 00:59:30,920 Speaker 3: I was definitely listening to Hello on the way to 1391 00:59:30,960 --> 00:59:34,760 Speaker 3: high school. I think with our age though, we probably 1392 00:59:34,800 --> 00:59:36,520 Speaker 3: fucked with King more than most. 1393 00:59:36,880 --> 00:59:39,600 Speaker 1: King was twenty four's No. 1394 00:59:39,760 --> 00:59:43,040 Speaker 3: Twenty fours was on Not twenty fours was on the 1395 00:59:43,040 --> 00:59:48,400 Speaker 3: album before that. So you said you might might to 1396 00:59:48,440 --> 00:59:51,160 Speaker 3: go King just off what you know about that? I'm 1397 00:59:51,200 --> 00:59:54,439 Speaker 3: not mad, no, man, trap music. Trap music was fine. Yeah, 1398 00:59:54,800 --> 00:59:58,240 Speaker 3: I'm a trap music guy. We'll get a little younger. 1399 00:59:59,240 --> 01:00:01,640 Speaker 3: I think Dirty Right too. Across the Board is Future's 1400 01:00:01,680 --> 01:00:04,720 Speaker 3: best album. We can all Yeah, So I didn't want 1401 01:00:04,760 --> 01:00:07,000 Speaker 3: to just add that in the mix. Fifty six Nights 1402 01:00:07,080 --> 01:00:08,000 Speaker 3: versus Hendricks. 1403 01:00:09,560 --> 01:00:13,880 Speaker 1: Bruh Hendrix Hendrix is so tough. 1404 01:00:13,920 --> 01:00:15,800 Speaker 3: It's an R and B sol album bruh. 1405 01:00:16,760 --> 01:00:19,000 Speaker 4: Sometimes I'll be wondering nowadays, like future can just like 1406 01:00:19,120 --> 01:00:20,120 Speaker 4: go in to move and do anything. 1407 01:00:20,160 --> 01:00:21,640 Speaker 1: It's gonna be hard, like you put it out. 1408 01:00:21,680 --> 01:00:25,040 Speaker 4: But like what he was experimenting and pushing himself to 1409 01:00:25,120 --> 01:00:27,720 Speaker 4: do on that album, Yeah crazy. 1410 01:00:28,120 --> 01:00:30,320 Speaker 3: I feel like my collection might be the most beautiful 1411 01:00:30,360 --> 01:00:33,800 Speaker 3: misogynistic record that's ever existed. Yeah, Like they'll play that 1412 01:00:33,840 --> 01:00:39,040 Speaker 3: at a tribute and women will cry young thug Jeffrey 1413 01:00:39,080 --> 01:00:45,120 Speaker 3: versus Bart six Bart six, Okay, not matter at that. 1414 01:00:45,280 --> 01:00:47,240 Speaker 3: I'd go part six two. I think their very neck 1415 01:00:47,280 --> 01:00:49,680 Speaker 3: and nect though Jeffrey's fire. I gotta go Jeffrey on 1416 01:00:50,120 --> 01:00:52,960 Speaker 3: over part six. All right, let's go R and B quickly. 1417 01:00:53,200 --> 01:00:55,320 Speaker 3: I don't think they've taken your Georgia I d yet. 1418 01:00:56,240 --> 01:00:58,680 Speaker 3: This is the this is the one confessions verse eighty 1419 01:00:58,720 --> 01:01:05,120 Speaker 3: seven to one. Don't breathe like that, like you don't lie. 1420 01:01:05,560 --> 01:01:07,360 Speaker 3: It's it's not the heart of a question. 1421 01:01:07,280 --> 01:01:08,200 Speaker 1: Man, Yes it is. 1422 01:01:08,440 --> 01:01:10,200 Speaker 3: No, it's not. I have lost friends over this de 1423 01:01:10,240 --> 01:01:11,040 Speaker 3: big confessions. 1424 01:01:11,160 --> 01:01:12,400 Speaker 1: Absolutely confessions. 1425 01:01:12,880 --> 01:01:14,000 Speaker 3: It's closer than y'all thinking. 1426 01:01:14,080 --> 01:01:16,360 Speaker 1: No, it's not. That's why I that's why I breathe 1427 01:01:16,400 --> 01:01:16,520 Speaker 1: like that. 1428 01:01:16,760 --> 01:01:20,040 Speaker 2: It's really not close Confession is closer than you'll Confessions 1429 01:01:20,080 --> 01:01:21,800 Speaker 2: is one of the greatest R and B albums ever. 1430 01:01:21,920 --> 01:01:23,360 Speaker 3: I think you can make a case. Eighty seven on 1431 01:01:23,440 --> 01:01:24,080 Speaker 3: one is right there too. 1432 01:01:24,160 --> 01:01:27,320 Speaker 2: You can make a case, but we know undeniably Confessions 1433 01:01:27,400 --> 01:01:28,840 Speaker 2: is one of the greatest R and B albums ever. 1434 01:01:28,960 --> 01:01:31,800 Speaker 3: Okay, without a doubt, to me, the most underrated R 1435 01:01:31,840 --> 01:01:35,680 Speaker 3: and B artists from Atlanta the Dream Love Hate, Verse, 1436 01:01:35,840 --> 01:01:36,560 Speaker 3: Love Verse Money. 1437 01:01:39,160 --> 01:01:40,920 Speaker 1: I don't know what all was on both of those albums. 1438 01:01:41,280 --> 01:01:43,200 Speaker 3: This one's so tough. I wouldn't even know really where 1439 01:01:43,240 --> 01:01:45,080 Speaker 3: to go. But let me pull up the track list 1440 01:01:45,160 --> 01:01:47,200 Speaker 3: for you. I think it's love Love Hate, the one 1441 01:01:47,240 --> 01:01:51,600 Speaker 3: with purple kisses. Yes, yeah, I'm going purple kisses throw it. 1442 01:01:51,600 --> 01:01:52,600 Speaker 1: In the bags on one of them. 1443 01:01:53,520 --> 01:01:56,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, but the remix is always better for us. Love Hate, 1444 01:01:57,080 --> 01:01:59,960 Speaker 3: I Love Your Girl falsetto Shorty as the Ship's Love 1445 01:02:00,160 --> 01:02:03,280 Speaker 3: living a Lot, Purple Kisses, Love Hate, Yes it is 1446 01:02:03,400 --> 01:02:07,400 Speaker 3: playing in our head. Yeah, I'm going, okay, but love 1447 01:02:07,480 --> 01:02:10,280 Speaker 3: Ver's money, rocking that ship, put it down, Walking on 1448 01:02:10,360 --> 01:02:10,720 Speaker 3: the Moon. 1449 01:02:11,080 --> 01:02:15,280 Speaker 2: Fancy Fancy might be one of the greatest Army songs ever. 1450 01:02:15,840 --> 01:02:17,720 Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. This is a tough. He's a 1451 01:02:17,760 --> 01:02:21,280 Speaker 3: tough one. Fancy is one of the greatest Army songs about. Yeah, 1452 01:02:21,320 --> 01:02:23,280 Speaker 3: but I'm still on the side of love hate but 1453 01:02:23,400 --> 01:02:24,280 Speaker 3: love verse money's right there. 1454 01:02:24,480 --> 01:02:26,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, God damn, it's a lot of. 1455 01:02:28,000 --> 01:02:30,080 Speaker 3: This has nothing to do with Georgia ship or music. 1456 01:02:30,200 --> 01:02:33,760 Speaker 3: But movie wise, any given Sunday verse Friday. 1457 01:02:33,480 --> 01:02:37,840 Speaker 1: Night Lights, Friday Night Lights is the best movie to me, really, we're. 1458 01:02:37,680 --> 01:02:41,360 Speaker 3: About to argue to death now, any givens Given Sunday 1459 01:02:42,720 --> 01:02:42,960 Speaker 3: It was. 1460 01:02:43,040 --> 01:02:47,000 Speaker 4: Five, but like Friday Night Lights put you in touch 1461 01:02:47,000 --> 01:02:50,800 Speaker 4: of like the origin of like coming up, like if 1462 01:02:50,840 --> 01:02:52,360 Speaker 4: you came up, it's a different side of it. Yeah, 1463 01:02:52,360 --> 01:02:54,000 Speaker 4: it's a different size Given Sunday. Not a lot of 1464 01:02:54,040 --> 01:02:56,880 Speaker 4: niggas like got to that level and relate to that. 1465 01:02:57,880 --> 01:03:00,720 Speaker 3: To me, give the car aff though you didn't. That 1466 01:03:00,760 --> 01:03:06,200 Speaker 3: wasn't feeling that. That's LT giants baby, come on go. 1467 01:03:06,360 --> 01:03:08,400 Speaker 1: That was a five movie. But yeah, for some about 1468 01:03:08,520 --> 01:03:09,840 Speaker 1: I don't know some about Friday Night Life. 1469 01:03:10,120 --> 01:03:12,000 Speaker 3: I mean it's a classic for sure, But any Given 1470 01:03:12,040 --> 01:03:13,959 Speaker 3: Sunday to me was so ahead of its time. Even 1471 01:03:14,080 --> 01:03:20,640 Speaker 3: on my bad my parking, he get alert and music 1472 01:03:20,680 --> 01:03:22,320 Speaker 3: when it's time to pay to meet it got to 1473 01:03:22,360 --> 01:03:24,760 Speaker 3: make sure. To me, any given Sunday was so ahead 1474 01:03:24,760 --> 01:03:27,880 Speaker 3: of its time, Like simply based off the Jamie Fox 1475 01:03:28,040 --> 01:03:30,640 Speaker 3: Al Pacinos scene when he goes to lunch after he's 1476 01:03:30,680 --> 01:03:32,480 Speaker 3: about to get not cut but he's not going to 1477 01:03:32,520 --> 01:03:35,160 Speaker 3: start for the playoffs and Jamie breaks down what it's 1478 01:03:35,240 --> 01:03:37,720 Speaker 3: like to be a professional athlete versus the corporation ship. 1479 01:03:38,240 --> 01:03:41,160 Speaker 3: To me, that that is what everyone even argues on 1480 01:03:41,200 --> 01:03:44,800 Speaker 3: the college level. That ship was the smart Oliver Stone 1481 01:03:44,840 --> 01:03:46,560 Speaker 3: smoke that ship. That was the smartest thing I've ever 1482 01:03:46,600 --> 01:03:49,680 Speaker 3: seen as far as what professional athletes go through. Like 1483 01:03:49,760 --> 01:03:51,680 Speaker 3: you're telling me that I need to do it for 1484 01:03:51,760 --> 01:03:55,240 Speaker 3: the betterment of the team. When I'm not, y'all are 1485 01:03:55,240 --> 01:03:58,640 Speaker 3: going to get paid. I am not cooking any give 1486 01:03:58,960 --> 01:04:00,960 Speaker 3: not give ahead of Friday. That lights. Yeah, you at 1487 01:04:01,040 --> 01:04:03,320 Speaker 3: high school, it's all about the town and the team 1488 01:04:03,480 --> 01:04:05,240 Speaker 3: and the people next to you and building all that. 1489 01:04:05,560 --> 01:04:08,280 Speaker 3: When I get to the professional level, Fuck y'all, y'all 1490 01:04:08,320 --> 01:04:11,440 Speaker 3: are gonna wave me, trade me immediately and you want 1491 01:04:11,520 --> 01:04:14,560 Speaker 3: me to give up my life for you now? Fuck that? 1492 01:04:15,200 --> 01:04:17,160 Speaker 3: To me, that was one of the most brilliant movies 1493 01:04:17,200 --> 01:04:18,040 Speaker 3: that's ever existed. 1494 01:04:18,160 --> 01:04:22,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, greatest football movie of all time and Longest yard. Wait, 1495 01:04:22,120 --> 01:04:25,439 Speaker 2: which one Adam Sandler knew it? Okay, greatest football movie 1496 01:04:25,440 --> 01:04:29,000 Speaker 2: of all time. Now he wasn't feeling that it's a 1497 01:04:29,040 --> 01:04:33,800 Speaker 2: good movie. I would put the replacements over that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 1498 01:04:35,240 --> 01:04:38,400 Speaker 2: another good, great football movie. I'm showing my age with 1499 01:04:38,480 --> 01:04:38,760 Speaker 2: this one. 1500 01:04:40,160 --> 01:04:40,760 Speaker 1: What was it? Uh? 1501 01:04:41,080 --> 01:04:44,320 Speaker 3: From the eighties? Wildcats? Was that the name of it? 1502 01:04:44,560 --> 01:04:45,800 Speaker 3: Sport in nineteen ninety y'all? 1503 01:04:45,880 --> 01:04:47,360 Speaker 1: Remember that was the high school musical, ain't it? 1504 01:04:48,400 --> 01:04:49,280 Speaker 3: You said a musical? 1505 01:04:49,400 --> 01:04:52,360 Speaker 1: Yo? Damn Wildcat high school musical. I think that was 1506 01:04:52,400 --> 01:04:52,920 Speaker 1: the name of it. 1507 01:04:53,600 --> 01:04:56,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, Wildcats, all right, Goldie Hawn Wildcats. You never seen 1508 01:04:56,520 --> 01:04:58,760 Speaker 3: that movie? Watch that movie. It's young from the eighties, 1509 01:04:59,160 --> 01:05:01,360 Speaker 3: but it's like it's a classic classic movie. 1510 01:05:01,400 --> 01:05:02,240 Speaker 1: Like you like the movie. 1511 01:05:02,400 --> 01:05:04,360 Speaker 3: It's definitely before your time. I'm a little older than y'all. 1512 01:05:04,400 --> 01:05:08,120 Speaker 3: But by Rudy, don't get me started, man, that's another 1513 01:05:08,720 --> 01:05:13,600 Speaker 3: that's another classic movie. You just like that movie. You've 1514 01:05:13,640 --> 01:05:16,000 Speaker 3: heard me go on our rants on our podcast about Rudy. 1515 01:05:16,480 --> 01:05:18,840 Speaker 3: I love them, I love Rudy, I understand. I think 1516 01:05:18,880 --> 01:05:22,320 Speaker 3: it's amazing that he did all that and then got Darren. 1517 01:05:22,360 --> 01:05:24,000 Speaker 3: You you got choked up watching that movie? Did you 1518 01:05:24,000 --> 01:05:24,400 Speaker 3: get a little. 1519 01:05:25,000 --> 01:05:30,040 Speaker 4: I have a song with Ciri where the intro where 1520 01:05:30,120 --> 01:05:33,560 Speaker 4: Rudy's about to quit and uh, the black Janitor was 1521 01:05:33,680 --> 01:05:37,040 Speaker 4: like tell him, like, you're trying to do that for 1522 01:05:37,160 --> 01:05:38,760 Speaker 4: your dad, and do that for what? Like if you 1523 01:05:38,800 --> 01:05:40,960 Speaker 4: ain't that clip in the beginning. 1524 01:05:41,040 --> 01:05:43,840 Speaker 3: So that was a Rudy is a classic, man. No, no, 1525 01:05:44,120 --> 01:05:47,160 Speaker 3: it's a classic. It's just a classic for that year 1526 01:05:47,200 --> 01:05:51,920 Speaker 3: of his life. Like listen following Von whatever his character 1527 01:05:52,040 --> 01:05:53,720 Speaker 3: ended up, he was still even though he's an ass. 1528 01:05:53,760 --> 01:05:55,400 Speaker 3: So he was the all American that was going to 1529 01:05:55,440 --> 01:05:57,440 Speaker 3: go on to the NFL and do great things. Rudy 1530 01:05:57,520 --> 01:06:00,280 Speaker 3: had a cool semester and then became a motivational speaker 1531 01:06:00,320 --> 01:06:01,960 Speaker 3: that we're fuck didn't do shit with his life afterwards. 1532 01:06:02,120 --> 01:06:02,480 Speaker 1: I get it. 1533 01:06:02,640 --> 01:06:05,440 Speaker 3: You wanted to get fucked over by the college system 1534 01:06:05,560 --> 01:06:07,640 Speaker 3: so badly that you did all that work in a factory, 1535 01:06:07,680 --> 01:06:10,560 Speaker 3: get your head blown off, everything just so you could 1536 01:06:10,600 --> 01:06:13,720 Speaker 3: give Notre Dame one hundred thousand dollars a year. Stupidest 1537 01:06:13,760 --> 01:06:15,320 Speaker 3: movie of all time. I thought it was one of 1538 01:06:15,360 --> 01:06:18,520 Speaker 3: the most inspirational movies of all time. It's inspirational for 1539 01:06:18,640 --> 01:06:21,400 Speaker 3: dumb shit. I loved his drive and his focus and 1540 01:06:21,520 --> 01:06:23,680 Speaker 3: the heart that he had. I respect that it was 1541 01:06:23,760 --> 01:06:26,840 Speaker 3: in all the wrong places. Check out Wildcats. 1542 01:06:27,040 --> 01:06:29,479 Speaker 1: Wildcats that movie. Not really. 1543 01:06:30,320 --> 01:06:33,520 Speaker 3: I had did a list of like seventy five things 1544 01:06:33,960 --> 01:06:36,440 Speaker 3: at the top of twenty twenty five for music predictions 1545 01:06:36,760 --> 01:06:39,160 Speaker 3: that I'm already. I think I'm four for four already. 1546 01:06:39,680 --> 01:06:41,560 Speaker 3: Do you have any music predictions for twenty twenty five, 1547 01:06:42,120 --> 01:06:43,560 Speaker 3: y'all f with of course? 1548 01:06:43,680 --> 01:06:46,440 Speaker 1: Yeah. I need the Saba No Idea project. 1549 01:06:46,720 --> 01:06:49,280 Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, they just put out a record on Friday. 1550 01:06:49,400 --> 01:06:51,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I've been spending that shit. 1551 01:06:51,800 --> 01:06:53,760 Speaker 4: Like, yeah, I don't really have any I like to 1552 01:06:53,800 --> 01:06:56,480 Speaker 4: to just see shit unfold, bro, Like I love like 1553 01:06:56,560 --> 01:06:59,160 Speaker 4: the mystery and just like watching shit happen. I don't 1554 01:06:59,160 --> 01:07:01,600 Speaker 4: really know what's gonna happened at all. I'm interested to 1555 01:07:01,640 --> 01:07:05,120 Speaker 4: see what Drake does well. I mean, I mean I'm 1556 01:07:05,160 --> 01:07:07,800 Speaker 4: still I'm still listening to Drake's old music. I mean, 1557 01:07:08,080 --> 01:07:10,560 Speaker 4: people are getting them about of there, but everybody doesn't. 1558 01:07:11,040 --> 01:07:12,720 Speaker 4: That doesn't really everybody's still listening. 1559 01:07:12,920 --> 01:07:14,880 Speaker 3: Well, I mean, by the time by the time they 1560 01:07:14,960 --> 01:07:18,960 Speaker 3: hear this, I think tomorrow will be the P and 1561 01:07:19,040 --> 01:07:22,320 Speaker 3: D Drake album. Okay, that's about to come out. I 1562 01:07:22,920 --> 01:07:24,840 Speaker 3: don't know where I'm at with that, I think they 1563 01:07:24,880 --> 01:07:27,840 Speaker 3: may go too much to the core fan base where 1564 01:07:27,840 --> 01:07:29,560 Speaker 3: the masses won't really fuck with it, which I don't 1565 01:07:29,600 --> 01:07:31,960 Speaker 3: really care. I love old P and D cuts, and 1566 01:07:32,000 --> 01:07:33,440 Speaker 3: I think that's the route that they're going to go. 1567 01:07:33,760 --> 01:07:36,080 Speaker 3: I don't know if we're gonna get much of what 1568 01:07:36,480 --> 01:07:38,640 Speaker 3: the masses want to hear. As far as Drake Address 1569 01:07:38,760 --> 01:07:40,439 Speaker 3: and ship, I think we're just gonna get Oh yeah, 1570 01:07:40,800 --> 01:07:42,720 Speaker 3: great fucking R and B shit. 1571 01:07:42,840 --> 01:07:44,760 Speaker 4: And I want to see him just like what the 1572 01:07:44,840 --> 01:07:46,960 Speaker 4: next chapter of his solo career, because like, I still 1573 01:07:47,000 --> 01:07:49,360 Speaker 4: want to hear what he got. He's still tough, like 1574 01:07:50,080 --> 01:07:52,480 Speaker 4: all all that shit aside, Like I still want to 1575 01:07:52,520 --> 01:07:53,280 Speaker 4: hear what you got to say. 1576 01:07:53,440 --> 01:07:56,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, besides Saba, who I love? What else you're listening to? 1577 01:07:59,320 --> 01:07:59,480 Speaker 2: Uh? 1578 01:08:00,480 --> 01:08:04,200 Speaker 1: I fucked with Viking by Baby for some reason. It's 1579 01:08:04,280 --> 01:08:04,960 Speaker 1: a great song. 1580 01:08:06,040 --> 01:08:08,840 Speaker 4: Other than that, there's a band called Crumban. It's like 1581 01:08:08,880 --> 01:08:12,200 Speaker 4: an alternative band. That's one of my favorites. 1582 01:08:13,080 --> 01:08:14,400 Speaker 3: They just want to Grammy, I think too. 1583 01:08:17,560 --> 01:08:19,439 Speaker 1: Sary's new project got a couple of good ones. 1584 01:08:20,280 --> 01:08:20,760 Speaker 3: That's my guy. 1585 01:08:24,200 --> 01:08:27,320 Speaker 4: Somehow I ended up on Jesus Peace. I've been listened 1586 01:08:27,320 --> 01:08:31,400 Speaker 4: to name Me King the Game album yeah, it's underrating 1587 01:08:31,800 --> 01:08:34,519 Speaker 4: heavy rotation. I don't think there's a skip on that album. 1588 01:08:34,800 --> 01:08:39,800 Speaker 1: Uh is Crazy and Jack Harlow Tranquility, Okay, it's a banger. 1589 01:08:40,000 --> 01:08:43,519 Speaker 2: I'm listening to It's crazy. Kodak Black put out a 1590 01:08:43,520 --> 01:08:46,680 Speaker 2: project for Christmas, and I've been listening to that, like 1591 01:08:47,200 --> 01:08:49,560 Speaker 2: MS Christmas thing I didn't even know, and it's like 1592 01:08:49,720 --> 01:08:51,920 Speaker 2: it's it's it's like it's short. 1593 01:08:51,920 --> 01:08:55,040 Speaker 3: It's a maybe seven records seven eight. 1594 01:08:55,120 --> 01:08:55,519 Speaker 1: What is he for? 1595 01:08:55,640 --> 01:08:58,120 Speaker 3: Like deck the halls with fentanyl? Like what is he? 1596 01:08:58,760 --> 01:09:02,320 Speaker 2: He's not decking the halls with Fit, but it's some 1597 01:09:02,479 --> 01:09:05,559 Speaker 2: joints on there that I'm like, damn. Like Yah put 1598 01:09:05,560 --> 01:09:07,439 Speaker 2: out a nice little project with Kodak. I think he 1599 01:09:07,479 --> 01:09:09,960 Speaker 2: could really wrap too. He put out a he put 1600 01:09:09,960 --> 01:09:12,680 Speaker 2: out a nice project around CHRISTI surious with that. 1601 01:09:12,840 --> 01:09:13,280 Speaker 3: Check it out. 1602 01:09:13,360 --> 01:09:15,400 Speaker 1: I cannot get past the halls. Was Fit. 1603 01:09:17,640 --> 01:09:19,680 Speaker 3: And you shouldn't deck the halls. Let's put that on. 1604 01:09:20,280 --> 01:09:24,360 Speaker 3: Definitely take it to me. I saw take it from. 1605 01:09:25,920 --> 01:09:26,200 Speaker 1: Darren. 1606 01:09:27,240 --> 01:09:28,679 Speaker 3: I saw I saw a video. 1607 01:09:29,400 --> 01:09:32,559 Speaker 2: There's this guy online that's doing this thing where he's 1608 01:09:32,600 --> 01:09:35,760 Speaker 2: taking rolls of duct tape and he's wrapping it around 1609 01:09:35,840 --> 01:09:37,640 Speaker 2: like two poles and he's trying to run through it. 1610 01:09:38,240 --> 01:09:40,080 Speaker 2: So he's seeing how many rolls he can run through, 1611 01:09:40,120 --> 01:09:40,720 Speaker 2: so he goes ten. 1612 01:09:40,840 --> 01:09:43,160 Speaker 3: He gets through that easy, twenty easy. 1613 01:09:43,560 --> 01:09:45,479 Speaker 2: So he gets up to one hundred rolls of duct 1614 01:09:45,479 --> 01:09:48,000 Speaker 2: tape that he wraps between two poles and tries to 1615 01:09:48,080 --> 01:09:51,360 Speaker 2: run through the tape and he ran. He tried to 1616 01:09:51,400 --> 01:09:53,720 Speaker 2: run through hundred rolls and knocked him back. He hit 1617 01:09:53,800 --> 01:09:57,280 Speaker 2: his head on the pole, called a concussion, so they 1618 01:09:57,320 --> 01:09:58,040 Speaker 2: called an ambulance. 1619 01:09:58,120 --> 01:10:00,280 Speaker 3: So he's in the car. He's like, yeah, so you know, 1620 01:10:00,360 --> 01:10:02,200 Speaker 3: what are you gonna give me? Take time? 1621 01:10:02,360 --> 01:10:04,000 Speaker 2: He said, Man, you know, we just probably get some fitting. 1622 01:10:04,040 --> 01:10:06,960 Speaker 2: As he looked like Finn like I've seen that clip. 1623 01:10:07,000 --> 01:10:09,400 Speaker 2: It was a dude in the uh in the hospital before. 1624 01:10:09,520 --> 01:10:11,479 Speaker 2: She's like, yeah, we just got to he said. He 1625 01:10:11,640 --> 01:10:12,919 Speaker 2: was like emotionally, he said. 1626 01:10:13,960 --> 01:10:16,599 Speaker 3: You're like that, like, no, cool. I think I'm alright. 1627 01:10:16,640 --> 01:10:21,800 Speaker 3: I'll get up anyone that's looking for Fendyl like wait, 1628 01:10:21,840 --> 01:10:24,200 Speaker 3: I just got to run my head. Yeah I'm cool. 1629 01:10:24,240 --> 01:10:28,080 Speaker 3: I'm cool. Hell, this was great man, Thank you so 1630 01:10:28,160 --> 01:10:31,080 Speaker 3: much for coming through. Appreciate this pleasure to finally meet you. 1631 01:10:31,720 --> 01:10:34,000 Speaker 2: We definitely got to do this again during once the 1632 01:10:34,120 --> 01:10:35,920 Speaker 2: NFL season kicks back off, so we could talk some 1633 01:10:36,000 --> 01:10:38,760 Speaker 2: ship about some players that we don't know nothing about 1634 01:10:38,800 --> 01:10:40,280 Speaker 2: because roory mall don't know ball. 1635 01:10:40,360 --> 01:10:41,880 Speaker 3: But are we sitting here with Dren. 1636 01:10:41,880 --> 01:10:42,519 Speaker 1: We gonna do some film. 1637 01:10:42,560 --> 01:10:44,439 Speaker 3: We got to do it, like a film breakdown, a 1638 01:10:44,560 --> 01:10:45,280 Speaker 3: break down, some film. 1639 01:10:45,400 --> 01:10:48,920 Speaker 4: See y'all's coverage, if y'all know coverages, if y'all know 1640 01:10:49,600 --> 01:10:50,960 Speaker 4: listen route. 1641 01:10:51,240 --> 01:10:54,600 Speaker 2: I stopped playing Madden because it got too technical. Like 1642 01:10:54,720 --> 01:10:56,280 Speaker 2: once you told me like, yo, if you pressed the 1643 01:10:56,320 --> 01:10:58,599 Speaker 2: button too hard, he's gonna throw it into the ground. 1644 01:10:58,640 --> 01:11:00,360 Speaker 3: I was like, all right, I'm done, Like I can't. 1645 01:11:00,720 --> 01:11:01,800 Speaker 3: I can't do this shit no more. 1646 01:11:01,840 --> 01:11:04,240 Speaker 2: So. I don't know no fucking routes. All I know 1647 01:11:04,439 --> 01:11:06,920 Speaker 2: is a few players, and I know when you should 1648 01:11:06,960 --> 01:11:09,280 Speaker 2: throw the ball. I don't look at coverage. 1649 01:11:08,960 --> 01:11:11,920 Speaker 3: Which is when when when you know he's opening, you know. 1650 01:11:11,920 --> 01:11:13,519 Speaker 2: When the receiver, you know, when y'all running, y'all do 1651 01:11:13,600 --> 01:11:15,439 Speaker 2: this thing right here, like kind of let the quarterbacks, 1652 01:11:15,439 --> 01:11:18,280 Speaker 2: you know, yeah, like let it go, let's go. 1653 01:11:19,200 --> 01:11:21,920 Speaker 3: That's all I know. Yeah, when you do this, get 1654 01:11:21,960 --> 01:11:23,240 Speaker 3: it to him, like just fucking just throw. 1655 01:11:23,320 --> 01:11:24,599 Speaker 4: Yeah, Now we can have a session. I can tell 1656 01:11:24,640 --> 01:11:27,360 Speaker 4: y'all like why people do certain things. Why this coverage 1657 01:11:27,400 --> 01:11:31,560 Speaker 4: is happening. Why I love that scheme a little. But 1658 01:11:31,600 --> 01:11:33,560 Speaker 4: then y'all can know ball and tell them fuckers, what's what? 1659 01:11:33,800 --> 01:11:34,040 Speaker 3: Thank you? 1660 01:11:34,120 --> 01:11:34,320 Speaker 1: Matt? 1661 01:11:34,479 --> 01:11:37,720 Speaker 3: Cover three, Cover two, I know Cover one. Yeah, I 1662 01:11:37,800 --> 01:11:39,400 Speaker 3: played Madden two. I know all that coverage too, So 1663 01:11:39,880 --> 01:11:42,080 Speaker 3: not the same. I played high school football. About fires 1664 01:11:42,120 --> 01:11:43,920 Speaker 3: on blitz, I mean, somebody gonna blitz. 1665 01:11:44,040 --> 01:11:47,120 Speaker 2: That sounds like that sounds like somebody the quarterback about 1666 01:11:47,120 --> 01:11:47,679 Speaker 2: to get hurt. 1667 01:11:48,439 --> 01:11:50,640 Speaker 3: That's the fire zone. It sounds like two dudes just 1668 01:11:50,720 --> 01:11:52,720 Speaker 3: coming from here. I think I saw it. 1669 01:11:52,720 --> 01:11:54,280 Speaker 1: That's I remember that fire zone is. 1670 01:11:55,880 --> 01:11:58,120 Speaker 4: You have a blitzer, like say like the Nickels blitzing, 1671 01:11:58,200 --> 01:12:01,040 Speaker 4: but somebody's dropping, so it can uses. It's the same 1672 01:12:01,160 --> 01:12:03,599 Speaker 4: number of people that would be rushing on a normal 1673 01:12:03,680 --> 01:12:06,800 Speaker 4: pass rush, but they're changing. They're trying to confuse the defense, 1674 01:12:06,800 --> 01:12:08,639 Speaker 4: like if you ever sak a defensive end dropping the coverage. 1675 01:12:09,000 --> 01:12:11,479 Speaker 4: They're confusing the offensive line because usually they'll slide this way, 1676 01:12:11,600 --> 01:12:12,960 Speaker 4: but then they'll be like, oh shit, that's where you 1677 01:12:13,000 --> 01:12:16,640 Speaker 4: see somebody just running unblocked. That's the hardest shit in 1678 01:12:16,640 --> 01:12:20,639 Speaker 4: football and offens lines picking up those blits and stunts. 1679 01:12:20,800 --> 01:12:23,599 Speaker 3: Okay, we'll get there, got you, baby steps, baby steps, 1680 01:12:23,680 --> 01:12:26,320 Speaker 3: We're getting there. That's Darren Waller. We appreciate you, my brother, 1681 01:12:26,360 --> 01:12:28,400 Speaker 3: and we've saw to you soon for sure. 1682 01:12:29,000 --> 01:12:29,040 Speaker 4: No