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Speaker 2: let's jump right into it. Oh, show the Bengals defeated

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Speaker 2: the Steelers nineteen seventeen. It was the Bengals defense, I

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Speaker 1: Trey Hendrickson three and a half sacked. He's going to

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Speaker 2: Now the Bengals made the Broncos lost and a Dolphins

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Speaker 2: So they got to sit back and pray.

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Speaker 1: Now they've to do.

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Speaker 4: We ain't got to pray. We ain't got to pray.

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Speaker 4: You talk about hope. The first thing you said was

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Speaker 4: we have to hope. I'm gonna tell you what's gonna happen.

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Speaker 4: God has faithor you know, he has favor on He

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Speaker 1: If he had favor, y'all wouldn't be in this predicament.

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Speaker 4: Listen the fact that listens have you got to understand

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Speaker 4: Don't matter what happened with the Jets.

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Speaker 2: Yes it does. If the Dolphins win, you still don't

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Speaker 1: Let me finish. I ain't even let me finish. The

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Speaker 4: Yes, Aaron Rodgers is gonna be a Rodgers Tomorrow. We're

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Speaker 4: You hope it, you fee no, no, no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: Last two weeks. Pullp Aaron Rodgers numbers.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna let you make it, but I'm gonna ask

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Speaker 4: Go ahead, talk about what's gonna happened the Jets. The

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Speaker 4: Jets are gonna be the Dolphins, right this is the

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Speaker 4: visual game. The Chiefs are gonna beet Broncos. I told

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Speaker 4: you already. It's about the defense of the Bengals and

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Speaker 4: this is a team that nobody wants to see in

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Speaker 1: It's Curtains. I'm telling you that, and don't forget we

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Speaker 1: Yes we do. Okay, I's gonna make sure and anybody

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Speaker 4: We haven't lost the game since I cried on here

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Speaker 2: We ain't lost the game in five weeks. But you

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Speaker 4: I'm not gonna I'm gonna stay. I'm not gonna eat it.

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Speaker 4: I'm not gonna eat it the mot I'm not gonna

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Speaker 4: eat it the mot until we until the Bengals. We're

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Speaker 1: Let's go.

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Speaker 4: They who they who ain't think they're gonna beat them Bengals.

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Speaker 4: Nobody saying.

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Speaker 2: I feel very bit comfortable. That's why I put a

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Speaker 1: But all your Creek key contributors.

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Speaker 2: Mahomes is not gonna play, Travis Kelsey is not gonna play,

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Speaker 2: Chris Jones is gonna make sure that camp is healthy. McDuffie,

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Speaker 2: a lot of your key guys. I wouldn't be surprised

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Speaker 2: I said, you gotta play. You gotta play your offensive

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Speaker 4: Anyway, go ahead, Can I tell you something, Yes, Carson

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Speaker 4: Andy Reid as creative as he is. I'm sure we're

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Speaker 4: going I'm talking about week I'm sure the Chiefs are

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Speaker 1: He's played very well all season long. But with the

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Speaker 4: Not only for the Chiefs even though I know they

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Speaker 4: Aaron Rodgers. As much as we said about you, I

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Speaker 1: Matter of fact, Aaron Rodgers probably watching. I need you

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Speaker 4: Ow you know how we see Aaron Rodgers of bowl

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Speaker 4: in spurts and spurs small spirts. We gonna get one

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Speaker 4: spurts tomorrow. I garantee you. When we saw Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 1: That, that's what's gonna look like tomorrow. I guarane one, two, three,

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Speaker 2: They're one in seven and their last they're won in

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Speaker 2: He had one hundred and fifty one yards against Indy

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Speaker 2: he had one hundred and eighty four yards. Of the

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Speaker 1: UH he did have three thirty nine. Whoa it was

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Speaker 2: The Raiders they lost last week against Buffalo, he had

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Speaker 1: Ram been lost against the rap I said the Raiders

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Speaker 4: Listen understand how the game of football goes. Understand how

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Speaker 1: They lost it over tied three thirty nine? Ah, he

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Speaker 1: had three thirty nine. So what do you think happened

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Speaker 1: this week? What you think just the way, just the

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Speaker 2: But you know what I noticed in the game that

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Speaker 2: Both were in Florida, one was in Jacksonville, one was

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Speaker 1: Rather like in Seattle? Oh he was raising? What What

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Speaker 2: No, it was in New York, Indy beat him? Okay

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Speaker 4: Since you yes, you're feeling so good by the Dolphins

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Speaker 1: You don't. But let's get into this game. Come on.

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Speaker 1: Now look at you look it.

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Speaker 2: George Pickens basically lost them the game tonight because he

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Speaker 2: When you I'll let you talk about your team. The

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Speaker 1: I can't support him.

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Speaker 5: He had a bad game. He had a bad game,

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Speaker 5: and you don't know if you know what I can say,

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Speaker 5: he had a bad game. He has to watch that film.

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Speaker 5: He has to have a better understanding. And you can't

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Speaker 5: perform like this. Obviously, they're they're the fifth seed, right,

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Speaker 2: Us if the Broncos win, the Broncos will be the

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Speaker 1: We find uh, we're find to get okay, But anyway,

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Speaker 2: Oh, okay, if the Chargers win, they're the sixth seed.

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Speaker 4: But again let's go back to George Pickens. Pick you

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Speaker 1: You can't. You can't. If anything, you need to be

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Speaker 4: They have to count on you. You are the team's

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Speaker 1: You have to Oh, that also comes with growth.

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Speaker 4: That also comes with understanding on how important I am

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Speaker 2: Oh so, so, where are you gonna understand that? Because

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Speaker 2: you saw that behavior last year in Cincinnati? Yes, you

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Speaker 1: Okay, you know what.

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Speaker 4: I understand what you're talking about, right, I understand what

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Speaker 4: let's not make it. Well, I don't see Randy Moss talent.

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Speaker 2: I gotta let him go then, So because because because

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Speaker 2: Joe?

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Speaker 1: You tell the people for the people that don't realize

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Speaker 1: what happened. What did Pittsburgh do? What they be? They

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Speaker 2: they will tolerate until they can replace. Now let me

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Speaker 1: How many years? How many years? First? Now? How many years?

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Speaker 2: I'm telling you how no, no, but they got rid

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Speaker 1: What? You Now, if you had to put some money down,

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Speaker 5: You know what?

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Speaker 4: That's you know what I'm glad you said that. Listen

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Speaker 4: You understand how difficult it is to find a quarterback now,

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Speaker 2: You believe do you believe they can find another quarterback

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Speaker 2: So why keep airon Rogers and pay him fifty men

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Speaker 1: Not no, not not all?

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Speaker 4: But I know I know what he does, thinking like

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Speaker 1: No, you'll think, Joe, I don't okay, I don't okay.

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Speaker 1: I have a question to me. Ask you said Kirk Cousins.

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Speaker 4: Everybody feel, everybody feels Kirk Cousins is worth you know,

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Speaker 4: Listen, understand what part it is to find a quarterback

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Speaker 1: For him to just go, he gives us hope.

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Speaker 2: I could see that old Joe if he was the

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Speaker 1: Room on that now, I'm listen, I'm with you when

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Speaker 1: didn't hear all this stuff.

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Speaker 1: Had in place.

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Speaker 4: Honestly, listen, not not not to bring up, not gonna

439
00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:45,680
Speaker 4: bring up the past, but Zach Wilson had a better record.

440
00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:46,159
Speaker 1: You know.

441
00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:50,120
Speaker 4: Last year I felt they should I felt they shouldn't

442
00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:52,359
Speaker 4: have moved on from Zach Wilson. I was the one

443
00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:54,240
Speaker 4: on the on the on the soapbox for Zach. And

444
00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:59,040
Speaker 4: see what you just did, you said, Aaron Rodgers resume.

445
00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:02,040
Speaker 4: Oh yes, you see what that relev That is why

446
00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:04,520
Speaker 4: they moved on from Zach Wilson. Based on what Aaron

447
00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:07,000
Speaker 4: Rodgerson has done in the past. That's the reason why

448
00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:09,800
Speaker 4: he was there in the place. They gave Aaron Rodgers

449
00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:13,120
Speaker 4: the keys to the entire organization once he got there,

450
00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:14,960
Speaker 4: How do you think Devince Adam's able to get there?

451
00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:17,280
Speaker 1: How do you think was able to get there? If

452
00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:19,879
Speaker 1: if I'm DeVante, I'm done following Aaron Rodgers around.

453
00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:23,400
Speaker 2: I'm good. And so wherever he go, I'm going the opposite.

454
00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:26,080
Speaker 2: If he go north, I'm going south. If he goes east,

455
00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:27,639
Speaker 2: I'm going west. I'm done with that.

456
00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:29,560
Speaker 1: Right. But I'm done with that.

457
00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:32,399
Speaker 4: Unless let's have a great understanding on why he did

458
00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:34,440
Speaker 4: decide to come based on what they were able to

459
00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:38,240
Speaker 4: do together, the chemistry that they had. If you.

460
00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:42,560
Speaker 1: If you want to get stats, but he said he

461
00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:45,520
Speaker 1: wanted to be somewhere where he can win. That's what

462
00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:46,000
Speaker 1: he said.

463
00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:48,960
Speaker 2: Now those are his words, right, Now, do you want stats,

464
00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:50,840
Speaker 2: you want a thousand yard season, you want to potentially

465
00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:52,719
Speaker 2: go to the Pro Bowl, or do you want to win?

466
00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:55,840
Speaker 2: Because you've done all that, You've been a multiple time

467
00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:58,760
Speaker 2: Pro Bowl player, You've got over one hundred touchdown catchers

468
00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:00,879
Speaker 2: in your career, but the one thing that you haven't

469
00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:03,960
Speaker 2: done is won a Super Bowl. I would like to

470
00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:07,760
Speaker 2: thank Davonte Adams, a guy of his credential, that that's

471
00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:11,560
Speaker 2: gonna look really good on his resume super Bowl because

472
00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:14,280
Speaker 2: now he's looking at Okay, I gotta try to get

473
00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:16,159
Speaker 2: because here's the thing. Now, they're gonna be a lot

474
00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:20,200
Speaker 2: of guys with a thousand catches, right, there's gonna be

475
00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:21,680
Speaker 2: a lot of guys with a thousand catches on you

476
00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:23,560
Speaker 2: because you know, we've got the extra game now, and

477
00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:25,359
Speaker 2: they throw the ball a lot more a lot than

478
00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:29,679
Speaker 2: they originally did. Well, so now there's twelve hundred catches.

479
00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:32,240
Speaker 2: It used to be Oh Joe, you got a thousand catches?

480
00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:34,879
Speaker 1: Man? You slam dump? Oh yeah, most definitely.

481
00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:37,000
Speaker 2: And so that's what that's what I think, Oh Joe,

482
00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:39,320
Speaker 2: I think the thing is a bit. It all depends

483
00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:41,960
Speaker 2: on what what Davante is looking for. Obviously, he's gonna

484
00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:44,719
Speaker 2: want to get a nice compensation. I don't see Davonte

485
00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:47,560
Speaker 2: playing for five ten million dollars. He's gonna want big money.

486
00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:50,560
Speaker 2: But if I'm gonna get I want to go somewhere

487
00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:53,400
Speaker 2: that I could win. That's somebody that and you're gonna

488
00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:55,440
Speaker 2: have to weigh the options. You gotta look at the quarterback.

489
00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:59,440
Speaker 2: How many opportunities I'm gonna get now?

490
00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:01,479
Speaker 1: Could take you? The best opportunity for him?

491
00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:06,359
Speaker 4: DeAndre Hopkins on the one year deal in Kansas City, right, Yes, Okay,

492
00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:08,840
Speaker 4: so I'm assuming I'm thinking maybe in the off season,

493
00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:10,760
Speaker 4: maybe that might be a great move, but a great

494
00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:12,800
Speaker 4: move for the Manthe Adams. I think Patrick Mahone wouldn't

495
00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:14,760
Speaker 4: have no problem having one of the best route runners

496
00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:18,720
Speaker 4: in the NFL. Still, he doesn't obviously get the notoriety

497
00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:21,920
Speaker 4: that he does he should, but he can see he's

498
00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:25,520
Speaker 4: a great road runner. Oh he's still technical, yes, very

499
00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:27,080
Speaker 4: very very sound, and I think he would be a

500
00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:29,640
Speaker 4: great addition to the Chiefs offense, you know, with Xavier

501
00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:30,919
Speaker 4: Worthy and I think Hollywood Brow.

502
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Speaker 1: I'm not sure if Hollywood Brown is on a one

503
00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:33,920
Speaker 1: to two year, three year deal whatever it may be.

504
00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:35,919
Speaker 1: He's a free agent. I think he's on one year

505
00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:36,320
Speaker 1: deal too.

506
00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:39,480
Speaker 4: Oh see that listen, it all will probably it would

507
00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:41,600
Speaker 4: all work himself out wherever the Manthea Adams goes.

508
00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:44,040
Speaker 1: He will be a great addition for that offense.

509
00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:46,560
Speaker 2: It is, But I just think the thing is, I

510
00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:52,480
Speaker 2: think this game should force George Pickens to evaluate himself.

511
00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:54,200
Speaker 1: Yes, sir, Yes, sir.

512
00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:57,080
Speaker 2: Oh Joe, he had a great ball on the sideline

513
00:23:57,320 --> 00:24:00,760
Speaker 2: and he dropped it. Yes, sir, that was big, That

514
00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:01,639
Speaker 2: was huge.

515
00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:06,240
Speaker 1: He had one. I mean he dropped every well, I understand,

516
00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:11,200
Speaker 1: but those balls was in his hands and he dropped. Yeah.

517
00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:14,480
Speaker 2: And he's a guy, you know, he's a guy that

518
00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:16,880
Speaker 2: when he goes into a funk, he can't pull himself out.

519
00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:20,159
Speaker 1: You know why he's not strong enough up here yet.

520
00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:22,719
Speaker 1: You got to have that D that dB mentality.

521
00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:24,600
Speaker 4: I mean, you get beat on, you got to have

522
00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:27,000
Speaker 4: that dB in the mentality you get beat okay, next

523
00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:28,440
Speaker 4: play you got to forget about it.

524
00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:30,240
Speaker 1: And most of the time that's very difficult to do

525
00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:32,640
Speaker 1: because I struggle with it too. As a receiver.

526
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Speaker 4: I could be honest with young I could talk to

527
00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:36,639
Speaker 4: you know, kob family. Yeah, when I was young, we

528
00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:39,040
Speaker 4: took about year one, year two. But I drop a ball,

529
00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:42,960
Speaker 4: I feel down on myself, now, down on myself. The

530
00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:43,720
Speaker 4: next ball that.

531
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Speaker 1: Comes it beat me up real bad. It beat me

532
00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:48,640
Speaker 1: beat real bad.

533
00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:51,359
Speaker 4: So most of the time early in my career, when

534
00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:53,960
Speaker 4: I would drop a ball, I would tell Carson to

535
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Speaker 4: check it, or I would tell Kidner, Actually what even Carson,

536
00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:58,840
Speaker 4: I would tell Kidner check it. I don't want to route.

537
00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:00,720
Speaker 4: I don't want to run on route. I don't feel

538
00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:03,879
Speaker 4: comfortable yet. Throw me a smoke real quick, throw me

539
00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:06,399
Speaker 4: a scream real quick. Let me touch it again, let

540
00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:08,440
Speaker 4: me see it all the way in so it build

541
00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:11,480
Speaker 4: my confidence back up. But until I get that confidence

542
00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:14,040
Speaker 4: back up, feeling the ball and touch it again, tucking

543
00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:14,680
Speaker 4: it away.

544
00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:16,000
Speaker 1: Then I don't. I don't. I don't.

545
00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:16,240
Speaker 2: I don't.

546
00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:18,520
Speaker 4: I don't feel right now. So I understand what Pic

547
00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:21,639
Speaker 4: is going through. But a performance like tonight cannot be

548
00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:25,119
Speaker 4: had from a player of your caliber, as important as you.

549
00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:26,600
Speaker 1: All to that guy there, in a game like this,

550
00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:29,040
Speaker 1: you can't. You can't. So you know what, It's a

551
00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:29,400
Speaker 1: good thing.

552
00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:32,600
Speaker 4: Get it our system now, Get it our system now,

553
00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:36,919
Speaker 4: because come next week, when it went, it counts when

554
00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:38,520
Speaker 4: it counts, and they got to count on you.

555
00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:41,280
Speaker 1: You got to come through form. You got to come

556
00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:42,360
Speaker 1: got to come through form.

557
00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:46,480
Speaker 2: I look at them, oh joe, they go and they're

558
00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:52,199
Speaker 2: gonna either get They're gonna either get Baltimore. Oh if

559
00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:54,240
Speaker 2: they're a five, If they're a five. See here's the

560
00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:56,560
Speaker 2: thing now, I really tried to be the five seed.

561
00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:58,920
Speaker 2: The Charges like, we're gonna win this game because we

562
00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:03,040
Speaker 2: get the four seeds, which is of Houston Texans. They struggling.

563
00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:06,640
Speaker 2: Their quarterback is down some confidence. They're not playing particularly

564
00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:09,320
Speaker 2: well on either side of the ball. Oh I like

565
00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:11,840
Speaker 2: that matchup. Yeah, you go slide to the sixth seed.

566
00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:15,600
Speaker 2: He got the Ravens. You remember what the Ravens did

567
00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:19,400
Speaker 2: the Pittsburgh last game. It could be a say it'll

568
00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:23,359
Speaker 2: be the Ravens are really clicking. The defense is starting

569
00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:24,040
Speaker 2: to play better.

570
00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:25,680
Speaker 1: Lamar's Lamar.

571
00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:29,880
Speaker 2: He had another outstanding game, O Joe. You see oh,

572
00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:32,440
Speaker 2: oh man man Deck Henry wasn't getting ithing. You see

573
00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:35,520
Speaker 2: the difference in the first half. You gave him the ball,

574
00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:38,320
Speaker 2: he had what three four yard In the second half,

575
00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:41,360
Speaker 2: he take the game completely over, completely over. That's all

576
00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:45,600
Speaker 2: you got to do. Running the football is about a mentality. Says,

577
00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:49,200
Speaker 2: it doesn't matter. People think you're supposed to get fifteen yards.

578
00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:52,280
Speaker 2: The character oh Joe, when you run the football, it's

579
00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:56,359
Speaker 2: a lot of ones and two maybe no yards, three yards,

580
00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:59,480
Speaker 2: four yards and what he do poo twenty five yards,

581
00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:02,720
Speaker 2: eighteen yards, boom, forty three yards.

582
00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:04,639
Speaker 1: That's how it works.

583
00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:06,320
Speaker 4: The funny thing about it, you have it back like

584
00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:09,960
Speaker 4: Derrick Henry is, you're gonna have some ononsome tools. Yes,

585
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:12,520
Speaker 4: you get somebody that size, continue to wait on you

586
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:14,480
Speaker 4: on the on the defensive side of the ball.

587
00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:15,879
Speaker 1: At some point.

588
00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:19,439
Speaker 4: Players started to come up and make that business decision.

589
00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:21,760
Speaker 4: The whole started to open up a little bit wider

590
00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:25,840
Speaker 4: in that third and fourth quarter. You know, it's different.

591
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:30,640
Speaker 4: So it's like chopping wood, chopping wood continuously, it continues,

592
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:32,880
Speaker 4: it starts to crack more and more and more. Yes,

593
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:35,360
Speaker 4: at some point it opens right up. And every time

594
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:38,640
Speaker 4: they get Derrick Henry eighteen more carries in the game.

595
00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:42,359
Speaker 1: They've won every game where he's carry the ball more

596
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:44,280
Speaker 1: than eighteen times every game.

597
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:47,600
Speaker 2: Every time, And it's really it's really not that complicated.

598
00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:50,960
Speaker 2: And then he opens it up for Lamar. Lamar opens

599
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:53,560
Speaker 2: it up for him, and the game becomes so easy

600
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:56,000
Speaker 2: for them when they run the ball, because they're gonna

601
00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:57,600
Speaker 2: run it. Oh Joe, they're gonna they got what the

602
00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:01,800
Speaker 2: average they had two twenty five to day, Henry goes

603
00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:04,560
Speaker 2: over nineteen hundred. Hey, hey, Baltimore, you see what you

604
00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:07,160
Speaker 2: see what they did? The game was already out of hand,

605
00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:09,159
Speaker 2: well five minutes left. They put Deack Henry back in

606
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:09,520
Speaker 2: the game.

607
00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:13,840
Speaker 1: You see. Oh Joe, did you see what they did? Oh? Yeah?

608
00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:16,440
Speaker 2: But the thing I hate they make it seem like

609
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:19,440
Speaker 2: it's mutually exclusive. What if he breaks the record, we

610
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:22,280
Speaker 2: can't win the super Bowl. Well if he doesn't, if

611
00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:24,480
Speaker 2: he doesn't get the record, we can win the super Bowl.

612
00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:29,960
Speaker 2: They're not mutually exclusively. Yeah yeah, I just, like I said,

613
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:32,800
Speaker 2: I don't get it, and I hope because now they've

614
00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:34,080
Speaker 2: got to win the super Bowl.

615
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:36,840
Speaker 1: And they don't win the super Bowl at your love,

616
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:37,880
Speaker 1: Like bro.

617
00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:40,440
Speaker 2: Y'all did all that for what y'all denied the man

618
00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:42,640
Speaker 2: an opportunity at the record to do what?

619
00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:46,320
Speaker 1: Oh so so you so thank you? So you feel

620
00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:48,400
Speaker 1: the same way about Sakuon too, then, and that's how

621
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:53,000
Speaker 1: I felt. Oh yeah, I was. We talked about it.

622
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:57,800
Speaker 6: Hell yeah, thank you, Like he was absolutely he will

623
00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:00,520
Speaker 6: never get this opportunity again. The chance happen back to

624
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:04,160
Speaker 6: back two thousand yard seasons are like, it is slimming done.

625
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:05,640
Speaker 1: It's very difficult to do.

626
00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 4: And then people then people you know, I'm I'm the

627
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:11,239
Speaker 4: inside the NFL Alpa hot at It is about, Oh,

628
00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:13,080
Speaker 4: we're trying to mitigate through risks of injury.

629
00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 1: We had them playing sixteen weeks of football. All of

630
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:18,240
Speaker 1: a sudden he get the week seventeen and all of

631
00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:22,640
Speaker 1: what what are we talking about? This is football. You

632
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:25,240
Speaker 1: play the game. You play it to win.

633
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:29,560
Speaker 4: Sometimes as an individual you have you have a chance

634
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:34,160
Speaker 4: to break records and spent your name in history. Like,

635
00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:36,600
Speaker 4: why would you take that away from him because oh,

636
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:37,880
Speaker 4: we don't want to get hurt.

637
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:42,720
Speaker 1: What are we talking about? Then the check hurt every

638
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:44,040
Speaker 1: any time he stepped on the field.

639
00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:48,080
Speaker 2: It absolutely lives. George Picking and Russell Wilson was not

640
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:50,400
Speaker 2: on the same page. Pickings to night Oh Joe against

641
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:52,920
Speaker 2: the Bengals, one of the worst secondaries in the NFL.

642
00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:56,520
Speaker 2: He had six targets, three drops, one catch, zero yards.

643
00:29:57,360 --> 00:29:59,480
Speaker 2: Earlier in the week, Piggins was asked about not being

644
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:01,880
Speaker 2: on the same page with Russell Wilson during the cheese game.

645
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:03,920
Speaker 1: Let's take a listen to what he had to say.

646
00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:07,320
Speaker 2: Seemed like you and Ross weren't on the same page

647
00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:10,480
Speaker 2: and that interception against the Chiefs, how does that happen?

648
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:12,640
Speaker 1: And what do you guys do to addressing? He said, Man,

649
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:14,680
Speaker 1: Russ wasn't on the same page. Yeah, well that's what

650
00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:19,440
Speaker 1: he said. That's what he said. That's what he said. Okay,

651
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:25,520
Speaker 1: how do you just address that? All right? Thanks guys,

652
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:29,800
Speaker 1: that's it. Wasn't he wasn't the same page.

653
00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:34,640
Speaker 2: He quit? Oh Joe, oh Joe. Ruff tried to protect it. Yeah, yeah,

654
00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:39,600
Speaker 2: everybody thaw he quit on the route. Ruff did him

655
00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:41,320
Speaker 2: a solid about.

656
00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:46,960
Speaker 1: Saying he weren't on the same page past week on Christmas. Okay, okay, yeah, yeah,

657
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:50,080
Speaker 1: yeah yeah remember yeah mc duff. People's on him was

658
00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:55,160
Speaker 1: cover two he quit, yes, threat. Yeah.

659
00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:58,400
Speaker 2: Russ protected it saying we just weren't on the same

660
00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:01,920
Speaker 2: page with actually everybody that saw it when they showed

661
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:04,600
Speaker 2: up the all twenty two of it. He actually quit

662
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:08,320
Speaker 2: on the route, which for which just to read, which

663
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:10,560
Speaker 2: is playing cover two to that side. There is no

664
00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:14,040
Speaker 2: reason to get wide because there's no threat. Right so

665
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:17,240
Speaker 2: now with no threat, now I can pay attention to

666
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 2: the hash to the middle of the field. Now I

667
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:22,800
Speaker 2: see pride moves that got by got the backer beat. Oh,

668
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:24,120
Speaker 2: let me just go ahead and take this.

669
00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:28,080
Speaker 1: I cant bro right. So that that's back to back

670
00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:30,360
Speaker 1: of week's two. So he got accountability.

671
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:35,000
Speaker 4: He got that Ruskin Russ Ruskine talked to matter of fact,

672
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:38,080
Speaker 4: Mike Tomlin, Mike Thomond, don't even need to say nothing.

673
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:41,240
Speaker 4: You know they have a conversation with it. Your quarterback.

674
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:43,760
Speaker 4: Your quarterback got to do one to pull you the

675
00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:44,560
Speaker 4: side and talk to you.

676
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:48,400
Speaker 1: Boy. I need you, I need you, I need you

677
00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:49,320
Speaker 1: to do everything.

678
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:54,480
Speaker 2: Mike Tomlin is the problem. Mike Tomlin accept things and whins.

679
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:56,920
Speaker 2: He witn't in the loss. Why would he be upset now,

680
00:31:57,600 --> 00:31:59,960
Speaker 2: you don't upset when he started with he'd be boy

681
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:03,560
Speaker 2: driving half the time. When they win, go back chat.

682
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:06,640
Speaker 2: I want y'all to watch the tape. Watch watch when

683
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:08,280
Speaker 2: he You know why it's hard to get on the

684
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:11,120
Speaker 2: same page because he doesn't bust his ass on every route.

685
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:13,560
Speaker 2: That's why the quarterback can't get on the same page

686
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:16,120
Speaker 2: with you, O Joe, because half the time you bull

687
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:16,560
Speaker 2: jib it.

688
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:18,280
Speaker 1: Let's call it what it is. O, Joe.

689
00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:20,680
Speaker 2: That's why the quarterback can't get on the same page

690
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:23,680
Speaker 2: with George Pickens, because George Pickens is lazy.

691
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:25,240
Speaker 1: He linelegagged in.

692
00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:27,719
Speaker 2: His route, especially if he's not getting the ball. If

693
00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:30,320
Speaker 2: he ain't getting the ball, George Picken's giving you his butt.

694
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:36,240
Speaker 2: Two kids, watch it wash the tape. That's why quarterback

695
00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 2: can't get on the same page because I don't know

696
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 2: what speed he's gonna run at, run at. That's why

697
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:43,280
Speaker 2: they take whether you want you in practice, you run

698
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:45,440
Speaker 2: the route like you would in the game, so it

699
00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:50,880
Speaker 2: times up when it comes to game. Yeah, card, it's not.

700
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:56,520
Speaker 2: It's listen, guys, I'm not telling anything earth shattering, oh Joe,

701
00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:59,760
Speaker 2: And I know how you're supposed to do certain things

702
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:02,560
Speaker 2: and A and the coaches will get on us.

703
00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:04,240
Speaker 1: So let me ask you a question.

704
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:06,560
Speaker 2: How do you think that's gonna time up in the

705
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:11,400
Speaker 2: game if you bull drive it in practice? Considering the

706
00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:15,680
Speaker 2: game is absolutely faster, way faster.

707
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:18,240
Speaker 1: That's why you.

708
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:21,479
Speaker 2: Bust your butt knowing things are gonna even speed up.

709
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:25,160
Speaker 2: So if you bullgive it and the quarterback goes one, two, three,

710
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:27,440
Speaker 2: and you bull drive it, now he got a jack

711
00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:31,680
Speaker 2: the ball off. Okay, he goes one two, three point five.

712
00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:35,120
Speaker 2: He's looking to throw the ball. But because you didn't

713
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:38,080
Speaker 2: bust your butt in practice, he has no time. Now

714
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:40,080
Speaker 2: you want to bust your butt in the game. Now

715
00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:40,960
Speaker 2: it's tiring, is off?

716
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:42,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, you see.

717
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:48,400
Speaker 2: That's why you practice, oh Joe, so you'll understand the quarterback.

718
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:51,120
Speaker 2: Get a feel of where the lineman's gonna be. Liman

719
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:53,560
Speaker 2: gets a feeling where the quarterback's gonna be. I get

720
00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:56,600
Speaker 2: a feel or the timing of the quarterback the one

721
00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:59,280
Speaker 2: two three, so forth its aw I get bumped. Okay,

722
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:01,800
Speaker 2: I can't get twelve. I got to cut this thing down.

723
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:03,760
Speaker 2: You got a good jam moment. Let me take this

724
00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:07,040
Speaker 2: thing down a team, so it times up. You're not

725
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:08,839
Speaker 2: gonna be able to give them the same thing George

726
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:11,080
Speaker 2: Pickets because George Pickets bull jives in his routes.

727
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:13,359
Speaker 4: You know what I like too, now, as you said

728
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:15,680
Speaker 4: about it about how fast the game is, and something

729
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:19,560
Speaker 4: that I learned and understood maybe by the time I

730
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:21,879
Speaker 4: got the year three where Carson and I we had

731
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:24,359
Speaker 4: such a we had jail so well and had such

732
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:28,760
Speaker 4: great chemistry and my crazy but you know was always

733
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:32,640
Speaker 4: full speed in practice when the way I practiced when

734
00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:34,800
Speaker 4: I got the year three in the game. You know

735
00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:37,920
Speaker 4: how you just said, the game is much faster. It

736
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:40,080
Speaker 4: got to a point to me where the game was slow.

737
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:43,680
Speaker 4: The game was so it wasn't really moving so, but

738
00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:46,279
Speaker 4: the way the way everything readister to me, it was

739
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:49,560
Speaker 4: registering slowed like I was moving like a little bit

740
00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:50,760
Speaker 4: faster than the game itself.

741
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:52,279
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know if I'm saying it

742
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:54,880
Speaker 1: the right way for the people in chat to get it, like, well,

743
00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:57,600
Speaker 1: the game slowed down because you understood the game better.

744
00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:01,000
Speaker 1: There we go. Okay, that's the yes you There was

745
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 1: no longer Am I doing the right thing the right depth?

746
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:07,440
Speaker 2: Now you can close your eyes and run that speed

747
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:10,080
Speaker 2: out did roll roll the twelve like it's nothing.

748
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:14,839
Speaker 1: You can run that bang like it enough A Hey

749
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 1: that's seven, that's seventh. Stevens man the ball right there

750
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:19,600
Speaker 1: every time.

751
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:23,080
Speaker 2: I don't need a I don't need nothing, or had

752
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:26,799
Speaker 2: closed my eyes back, Hey whatever side, I'm on the back,

753
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:28,839
Speaker 2: but back and I'm gonna go one, two, three point

754
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:29,480
Speaker 2: five six, seven.

755
00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:31,959
Speaker 1: And when I do this, that ball right there already gone.

756
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:33,840
Speaker 2: I know that.

757
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:37,120
Speaker 1: That's what they say when the game slows down. Now,

758
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:40,719
Speaker 1: you're no longer guessing. Man. The quarterback said the game. Man,

759
00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:41,279
Speaker 1: I wonder what.

760
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:43,400
Speaker 2: Defense they're in. I wonder what I'm supposed to do

761
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:46,000
Speaker 2: with the ball. You already know, Oh, they're gonna give

762
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:48,560
Speaker 2: us this defense on first down. Now here's the here's

763
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:51,680
Speaker 2: the Okay, this is what they do. But here's the

764
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:55,160
Speaker 2: counter to this is what what they do. Now it

765
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:57,480
Speaker 2: slows down. The game didn't really slow, you just know

766
00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:01,600
Speaker 2: you just you slowed the game aim down because you

767
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:03,680
Speaker 2: know what to do, where to.

768
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:06,080
Speaker 4: Be, and how to get there, and the and the

769
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:07,560
Speaker 4: great thing that the great thing about it, and now

770
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:09,239
Speaker 4: I can't wait to pick and get to this part.

771
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:13,640
Speaker 4: And and understanding the faster you play in practice, the

772
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 4: slower of the game becomes in im on Sundays. And

773
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:20,560
Speaker 4: then not only that, when the defenses come out the huddle.

774
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:22,800
Speaker 4: You already come out to huddle with a plant. But

775
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 4: once you playing based on the plane that's called, then

776
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:26,400
Speaker 4: you also have a plan based on.

777
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:28,319
Speaker 1: What you see in front of you. So you're saying,

778
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:30,680
Speaker 1: even with the skiters and the safeties playing around and

779
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:34,080
Speaker 1: the mic doing all that stuff, whatever Russell Wilson points at,

780
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:37,480
Speaker 1: you already know playing plan A, and you know plan

781
00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:39,680
Speaker 1: B based on what's in front of you, and when

782
00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:42,920
Speaker 1: it allows you to play fast and you can think freely.

783
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:46,160
Speaker 2: Yes, you don't have to guess man, because I got

784
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:48,320
Speaker 2: to run my rod off his alignment, don't Joe. I

785
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:52,160
Speaker 2: understand that if I got to get outside and he's outside,

786
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:54,640
Speaker 2: I got to do something to make him think I'm

787
00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:58,440
Speaker 2: going inside to get him inside. And if I'm going inside,

788
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:00,440
Speaker 2: I've got to do something out side to make him

789
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:02,839
Speaker 2: think I'm going outside because I've got to get in there.

790
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:07,680
Speaker 2: I've got the quarterback, trust me, because he's gonna throw

791
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:10,160
Speaker 2: that ball. He's gonna throw that ball on timing, and

792
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:11,759
Speaker 2: it's got to be a complete or it's got to

793
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:12,400
Speaker 2: be incomplete.

794
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 1: I can't. I can't fool it. And that's why I can't.

795
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:17,400
Speaker 2: Like I'm supposed to go inside and then all of

796
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:19,279
Speaker 2: a sudden, I'm gonna throw the bro and then also

797
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:20,439
Speaker 2: he ain't got that kind of time.

798
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:22,799
Speaker 4: And then you gotta think, even if the ball ain't

799
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:26,799
Speaker 4: for you, even if even you, whatever your assignment is, you.

800
00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:28,400
Speaker 1: Got a musket, but you gotta go outside.

801
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:31,400
Speaker 4: Maybe it's open somebody else up in that corner with

802
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:34,040
Speaker 4: his back turn to get in the flip. So somebody's

803
00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 4: coming from the other side, you know, maybe a shallow

804
00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:37,480
Speaker 4: or something, maybe the tight end.

805
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:39,120
Speaker 1: You got, Joe, other people.

806
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:41,920
Speaker 4: So when you understand the offense and his totality, then

807
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:43,319
Speaker 4: you don't get what happened last week.

808
00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:46,400
Speaker 2: You don't, Oh, Joe, you know when you run covered

809
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:48,359
Speaker 2: to you not getting the ball. We trying to get

810
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:51,279
Speaker 2: somebody down in the hole. Yeah, that's what we're trying

811
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:53,239
Speaker 2: to do. We try to get them. Safety do why

812
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:56,239
Speaker 2: we can, because we want that guy. He's isolated one

813
00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 2: on one with the linebacker, and we wanted we don't

814
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:00,480
Speaker 2: want it to be a twenty yard a police and

815
00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:01,439
Speaker 2: a safety make the play.

816
00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:03,440
Speaker 1: We wanted to be a forty yard touchdown.

817
00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:06,359
Speaker 2: Yes, sir, so I would bust my butt because guess

818
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:09,520
Speaker 2: what I've asked Rod, I've asked ed to.

819
00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:10,440
Speaker 1: Bust my butt.

820
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:13,080
Speaker 2: So when they come to the shallow, they come to

821
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:16,160
Speaker 2: ex this, I've got to clear it because this is

822
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:19,560
Speaker 2: my opportunity to repay them for the service that they

823
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:21,960
Speaker 2: provided for me to get down the hole, or for

824
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:24,160
Speaker 2: me to run the basic cross, or me to run

825
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:25,160
Speaker 2: Tiger far across.

826
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:26,720
Speaker 1: That's the way it works.

827
00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 2: Pickings gotta understand just because you're not getting the ball,

828
00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:32,480
Speaker 2: that's not your chance.

829
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:33,160
Speaker 1: To bull dye, right.

830
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:34,960
Speaker 4: I think he has to understand it. I think he

831
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:37,200
Speaker 4: has to understand that. I think no one has explained

832
00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:39,239
Speaker 4: it to him that way, as opposed to. You know what,

833
00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:42,800
Speaker 4: every time, every time you out there, when the offense

834
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:45,360
Speaker 4: is run, sometimes the ball ain't coming to you. But

835
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:48,000
Speaker 4: sometimes that you do have it might be to open

836
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:51,359
Speaker 4: somebody else up like it like it was last week. Right,

837
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:55,120
Speaker 4: But it's gonna come. It's gonna come. You gotta get

838
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:57,759
Speaker 4: together and you gotta get it. You gotta get together now.

839
00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:03,160
Speaker 1: It's attitude though, Joe, you got your oo and they

840
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 1: got to be listening. Listen.

841
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 4: I've never I haven't had a chance to talk to him.

842
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 4: If if I if I get his number, of I

843
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:11,160
Speaker 4: talked to him. I listen, I talked to him.

844
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:14,319
Speaker 1: I tell him, listen, well, you only get so many opportunities, baby,

845
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:17,520
Speaker 1: and you're you're such a special talent, you can't let

846
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:19,400
Speaker 1: it go to waste. And you're in the right place too.

847
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:20,360
Speaker 1: You you.

848
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:23,440
Speaker 4: In You're in the right place. You don't want to

849
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:25,719
Speaker 4: go nowhere else because you go somewhere else. Boy, the

850
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:29,120
Speaker 4: grass and always reading on another side. On Boyhead is

851
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 4: not on another side.

852
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 2: They're not going to tolerate said behavior like the Steelers

853
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:38,359
Speaker 2: are because the steet. You know what I'm saying, because

854
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:42,279
Speaker 2: look when you home, your parents would tolerate things, and

855
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:45,480
Speaker 2: like when you go like who talked? Where did you

856
00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:49,319
Speaker 2: learn that? But if you notice, Ojoe, there's a real

857
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:54,680
Speaker 2: current thing with Steelers receivers. You see, I mean, what

858
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:55,040
Speaker 2: is it?

859
00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:58,080
Speaker 1: I don't know what. I don't think there was any

860
00:39:58,160 --> 00:39:59,800
Speaker 1: overlap between Picking and A B.

861
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:02,480
Speaker 2: I don't think there was any over lap between Deontay

862
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:05,600
Speaker 2: Johnson with Deontay Johnson and Pickings within that locker room together,

863
00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:08,239
Speaker 2: and look at their behavior, it's identical.

864
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:11,840
Speaker 1: You see what happens when you don't have culture. We

865
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:13,719
Speaker 1: don't have someone to hold people accountable.

866
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:19,640
Speaker 2: See, now you need a veteran presence in the locker

867
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:21,880
Speaker 2: room to say that's not the way we do things.

868
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 1: Well you got one. You got one of the quarterback

869
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:26,319
Speaker 1: that's a veteran president, that's a Super Bowl champions. Oh Joe,

870
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:29,040
Speaker 1: he just got there. Well, I know what you mean.

871
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:31,959
Speaker 1: But still they have they have an end goal in mind.

872
00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:35,520
Speaker 1: They have mine. Russell Wilson understand what it takes to

873
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:37,839
Speaker 1: get you. I don't go out then Warling. So if

874
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:41,000
Speaker 1: there's somebody to talk to him, not to coach, not

875
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:43,520
Speaker 1: to coach, the one who's throwing you the ball, Russ

876
00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:45,600
Speaker 1: gott to pull him aside. And I'm sure none of

877
00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:47,680
Speaker 1: it are ready. We had a bed last year.

878
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:52,960
Speaker 2: What about your guys, cee Cee, Chase Claypool. I mean,

879
00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:57,840
Speaker 2: I just want to know how many bad receivers before.

880
00:40:58,960 --> 00:40:59,839
Speaker 1: Coach? You said all one?

881
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:01,880
Speaker 2: One of two things about Joe. Either you coach that

882
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:04,960
Speaker 2: behavior or you condone that behavior. There's no other way

883
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:07,640
Speaker 2: around it. You coach it or you condone it. So

884
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:09,920
Speaker 2: what's going on in Pittsburgh? Are they coaching it? Or

885
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:10,759
Speaker 2: are they condoning it?

886
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:15,080
Speaker 1: I mean, listen, I'm not condoning. I just said it

887
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:16,800
Speaker 1: as a way. I'm asking what if they doing in

888
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:18,759
Speaker 1: pittsbo Okay, okay, I see what you see what you mean?

889
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:21,320
Speaker 1: I said what you mean? Now, I understand, I understand.

890
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:22,200
Speaker 1: I understand.

891
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 2: Like plex Plax wanted his money, stealers didn't want to

892
00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:28,720
Speaker 2: pay no money. He went elsewhere, right, But san Antonio

893
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:34,160
Speaker 2: Holmes was Super Bowl MVP. Chase Claypool Coop Chase, claypool

894
00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:43,000
Speaker 2: a b you got Pickings, you got Deontay Johnson, Right,

895
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:45,399
Speaker 2: I just want to know what Joe you got.

896
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:47,840
Speaker 1: I mean, hold on, a lot of these guys from Florida,

897
00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:51,560
Speaker 1: whoa hold on that. Don't don't do that. Don't do that,

898
00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:54,759
Speaker 1: don't do that. Don't do that because he listen, I'm

899
00:41:54,800 --> 00:42:01,120
Speaker 1: from Florida. I ain't had no problems. Le'm just saying.

900
00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:03,000
Speaker 1: I just I just want to I just want to know.

901
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 2: And then fry Ooh lord, if fried Move catches that pass,

902
00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:10,439
Speaker 2: he might hit his head on the gold post on joke.

903
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:12,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm glad. I don't know. I don't know.

904
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:14,520
Speaker 2: If he got that kind of speed, he might want

905
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:17,000
Speaker 2: to give himself. No, seriously, he might want to give

906
00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:17,799
Speaker 2: himself up.

907
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:21,759
Speaker 1: Right because but they ain't got no time to save time.

908
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:23,520
Speaker 1: Hold on, hold on, let me take the bracelet love.

909
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:28,360
Speaker 1: What happened? Russ? What are you doing?

910
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:34,160
Speaker 2: Get your ass out of bounds. That's two times you've

911
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:38,239
Speaker 2: done that. George's just not import at this point in time.

912
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:39,640
Speaker 1: The clock is.

913
00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 2: Russ is too too vetterman of an e fing quarterback

914
00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:48,560
Speaker 2: to keep making these mistakes. It cost him against the

915
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:51,560
Speaker 2: Baltimore Ravens. He trying to not all of a sudden,

916
00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:54,479
Speaker 2: he Josh Allen, he gonna run Cam Newton, he gonna

917
00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:58,120
Speaker 2: run somebody over with his fall ass. Slide your ass down.

918
00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:01,920
Speaker 2: If this situation should get your ass out of bounds.

919
00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:06,239
Speaker 2: Yardage three yards is not more, if not more important

920
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:07,640
Speaker 2: than fifteen seconds.

921
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:12,279
Speaker 1: I don't get it.

922
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 2: It's like all of a sudden, these got they Oh Joe,

923
00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:18,320
Speaker 2: it's like the moment, the moment got too big for me.

924
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:20,880
Speaker 1: He forgot what tell me?

925
00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:21,000
Speaker 2: What?

926
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:22,680
Speaker 1: Tell me what you thought was o? Joe?

927
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:27,360
Speaker 2: Tell me you got one time out? Why would you

928
00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:30,120
Speaker 2: not go out of bounds and save that time? I

929
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:33,120
Speaker 2: have wanted to get it three yards and gotta burn it.

930
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:37,040
Speaker 4: Listen, I'm glad it went that way because I show

931
00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:38,960
Speaker 4: ain't want us, I ain't show, ain't want to salute us.

932
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:43,360
Speaker 4: So listen, I'm I'm you got to have better clock management,

933
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:46,400
Speaker 4: but I don't better understand the of the situation that

934
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:46,759
Speaker 4: you're in.

935
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:50,920
Speaker 1: It's called situation of football. Oh yeah, yeah, and the

936
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:54,920
Speaker 1: really and the really good ones, Yeah they understand, Oh yeah,

937
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:55,359
Speaker 1: big time.

938
00:43:56,200 --> 00:44:01,719
Speaker 4: Plus it's two veterans fifteen fifteen back there in Kansas city.

939
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:04,200
Speaker 1: There's a reason to get paid five out of a millionaire.

940
00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:05,800
Speaker 1: There's a reason.

941
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:17,719
Speaker 2: I just I'm like bro, I'm like bro, it's just

942
00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:21,759
Speaker 2: hard to win when guys in situation they don't understand.

943
00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:25,000
Speaker 2: And then you got you got your Oh Joe, it's

944
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:29,399
Speaker 2: hard when your best players have bad attitudes, you see,

945
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:31,239
Speaker 2: because the thing is, O Joe, you don't want to

946
00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:33,640
Speaker 2: get rid of that guy and then have him have

947
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:37,719
Speaker 2: that attitude, have good, a good attitude because whatever the case.

948
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:41,440
Speaker 2: Because we saw what happened in Minnesota with Randy, they

949
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:43,960
Speaker 2: wanted to move on. He goes to the Raiders. He

950
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:46,520
Speaker 2: didn't feel he didn't feel appreciated. They wouldn't give him

951
00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:49,200
Speaker 2: the opportunity. And then you know, he goes to he

952
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:52,720
Speaker 2: goes to New England and we see what happened.

953
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:56,600
Speaker 1: Like, Bro, why couldn't why couldn't we get that? Hey, listen,

954
00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:59,359
Speaker 1: that's why, that's why you have to be cautious. That's

955
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:02,840
Speaker 1: why you have to be cautious, you know, and and

956
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 1: have a little grace and elite a little leeway for players.

957
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:11,040
Speaker 4: Like that of that caliber that are special. George Pickens

958
00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:15,120
Speaker 4: ain't no regular receiver. He ain't just noo he's a

959
00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:20,480
Speaker 4: special talent. Eventually, eventually that behavior is gonna rear his head.

960
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:23,040
Speaker 4: And it reared his head in New England, didn't it.

961
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:26,080
Speaker 4: Because guess what? And the one guy that wasn't gonna

962
00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:28,520
Speaker 4: put up with that behavior is you're playing for the guy.

963
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:30,520
Speaker 4: So what's the guy name that's not gonna put up

964
00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:32,680
Speaker 4: with that behavior no matter how great you are?

965
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:35,759
Speaker 1: What's his name? Ojo? Bill Belichick?

966
00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:39,080
Speaker 5: You know, I didn't know what when when I think

967
00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:40,640
Speaker 5: about that situation that when I go back to it

968
00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:44,279
Speaker 5: and think about it, remember like he didn't really do nothing.

969
00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:49,400
Speaker 1: He just said I want my money. Oo. It was

970
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:50,120
Speaker 1: more to it than that.

971
00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:55,319
Speaker 2: It was, yeah, okay, and you probably know. And then

972
00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:57,600
Speaker 2: they traded the Tennessee. Okay, he goes to Tenna. See

973
00:45:57,640 --> 00:45:58,280
Speaker 2: then what happened?

974
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:02,440
Speaker 1: Different offense too, boy, Oh Joe?

975
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:11,000
Speaker 2: You see now Minnesota? Oakland? Uh, New England, Tennessee Minnesota

976
00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 2: again for my team. Remember we keep blaming the teeth.

977
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:17,600
Speaker 2: Remember forty nine with the forty nine ers was the

978
00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:19,600
Speaker 2: last stop we went there. They went to the Super

979
00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:21,719
Speaker 2: Bowl and then he hung it up after that. Yeah,

980
00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:25,040
Speaker 2: I just I just don't get it, oh Joe. It

981
00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:29,960
Speaker 2: because the thing is is that you can steal a year.

982
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:33,239
Speaker 2: If you're a great player, they'll allow you to steal

983
00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:35,600
Speaker 2: a year. A year you got, you can seal a few.

984
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:41,800
Speaker 2: See see now you cook it, steal a few, especially

985
00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:45,839
Speaker 2: if you ain't no problem. See see now you cook

986
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:47,960
Speaker 2: it with Chris Go. See before you cooking with pay him?

987
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:50,279
Speaker 2: You like thanks cause you ain't. You ain't want to

988
00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:52,799
Speaker 2: clog your artist. Now you got Chris go, You got

989
00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:55,440
Speaker 2: to burn the house down. You know exactly what I'm

990
00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:58,160
Speaker 2: talking about. They will allow you to steal a couple

991
00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:06,399
Speaker 2: of years with a good attitude. Yeah, all right, Oh Joe,

992
00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:09,479
Speaker 2: let's go to Pittsburgh's end of the season regular season

993
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:10,720
Speaker 2: on for knsecutive losses.

994
00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:14,840
Speaker 1: How hard is it as a team to turn a

995
00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:18,040
Speaker 1: slide around once you get to the playoffs. Oh, that's

996
00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:20,440
Speaker 1: a good one. So that's that's four game four or

997
00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:24,440
Speaker 1: five games lost in a row in a row? I mean,

998
00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:27,399
Speaker 1: and what do you I'm trying to think? I mean,

999
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:30,760
Speaker 1: what can you do outside to play better offensive?

1000
00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:35,080
Speaker 4: Because the reason they haven't played well is because the

1001
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:37,759
Speaker 4: offense has been a bit SMaL to pass for. Yeah,

1002
00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:40,640
Speaker 4: they've been bad as opposed to how they looked before

1003
00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:43,200
Speaker 4: they look, they look really good. I'm not sure what's

1004
00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:45,440
Speaker 4: going on with Art Smith and the play calling or

1005
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:49,440
Speaker 4: or Russ and you know, his ability to to facilitate

1006
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:50,600
Speaker 4: the ball to the receivers.

1007
00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:55,040
Speaker 1: I don't know what it is, huh. I honestly, I

1008
00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:58,120
Speaker 1: can't tell you. I just know from an offend the standpoint, they've.

1009
00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:00,120
Speaker 4: Been able to run it okay, but the past as

1010
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:03,160
Speaker 4: a game hasn't been what it should be because, oh.

1011
00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:05,960
Speaker 1: Yo, the receivers. I don't know what I'm gonna get.

1012
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:08,000
Speaker 1: First of all, you remember pick mystery games.

1013
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:11,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, but when he's in, oh Joe, I mean if

1014
00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:13,880
Speaker 2: he's supposed to roll ten, I don't know because on

1015
00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:15,759
Speaker 2: your cousin, you know that on that speed out of

1016
00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:18,040
Speaker 2: that ten, roll to twelve. Yeah, ohyo, that thing gotta

1017
00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:19,759
Speaker 2: you gotta throw, You gotta throw it on time. Yeah,

1018
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:22,600
Speaker 2: ain't no, ain't no. I'm a wait till he gets

1019
00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:25,960
Speaker 2: I'm a way to to say. College in the NFL

1020
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:30,560
Speaker 2: different between NFL and college. In NFL, you throw people open.

1021
00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:32,919
Speaker 2: In college, you can wait till they get open.

1022
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:35,200
Speaker 1: Not that, not no, no, noth no.

1023
00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:39,080
Speaker 2: These guys are too good, they study too much film,

1024
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:41,960
Speaker 2: and you throw a ball. Wait, until he gets open

1025
00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:43,080
Speaker 2: in the NFL.

1026
00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:45,040
Speaker 1: Going the other way, we'll pick it. It's going another way.

1027
00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:46,759
Speaker 1: I just go there.

1028
00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:51,279
Speaker 2: How you gonna pick it? If if? If it's really

1029
00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:54,800
Speaker 2: it's really that simple, and it's hard. I think we

1030
00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:57,080
Speaker 2: lost so long. We lost three or four. We lost

1031
00:48:57,120 --> 00:49:01,040
Speaker 2: to Pittsford, we lose to lost the sad FRAYD. We

1032
00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:03,440
Speaker 2: lost the Pittsburgh Sad Fray. We lost three or four,

1033
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:06,399
Speaker 2: but we won. We lost three games. Then we won

1034
00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:09,680
Speaker 2: the final game of the season against Seattle, and then

1035
00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:14,000
Speaker 2: we had a home game because back then on Joe we.

1036
00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:14,840
Speaker 1: Were the.

1037
00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:20,920
Speaker 2: Don't know what we were. I think there's only three

1038
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:23,040
Speaker 2: divisions back then. But anyway, we had a home game.

1039
00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:25,520
Speaker 2: We got one home game, and then we had to

1040
00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:26,720
Speaker 2: go on the road. We had to go to Kansas

1041
00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:29,960
Speaker 2: City and we had to go to Pittsburgh. But the

1042
00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:32,360
Speaker 2: thing was is that the teams that we were playing

1043
00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:35,440
Speaker 2: on Joe we had already played, so it was a

1044
00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:39,279
Speaker 2: lot of familiarity, and we felt that because they beat us,

1045
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:43,000
Speaker 2: they really weren't gonna change anything, which gave us an

1046
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:44,880
Speaker 2: opportunity to change a lot about what we did.

1047
00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:47,520
Speaker 1: Because if I win on Joe, why would I why

1048
00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:51,080
Speaker 1: would I change anything. I won. We knew that.

1049
00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:56,280
Speaker 2: We know you're not gonna change anything. Can't help yourself.

1050
00:49:57,320 --> 00:49:59,400
Speaker 2: And then now we take it now we took advantage

1051
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:02,120
Speaker 2: of that. But it's tough. But like I said, o Jo,

1052
00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:06,879
Speaker 2: I think me personally, Yeah, I think the Steelers over

1053
00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:10,160
Speaker 2: a cheap. I don't think they're great team, you know,

1054
00:50:10,239 --> 00:50:11,920
Speaker 2: think so. I don't look at another great team though.

1055
00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:12,920
Speaker 1: I never thought that.

1056
00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:16,040
Speaker 4: But then they're not a great team offensively, they're a

1057
00:50:16,040 --> 00:50:17,080
Speaker 4: great team defensively.

1058
00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:19,440
Speaker 1: That's there their their their identity.

1059
00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:22,320
Speaker 4: Their identity has always been offense well as opposed to

1060
00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:25,000
Speaker 4: when Roethlisberger was there, they were off with the juveniut

1061
00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:27,360
Speaker 4: then yeah, you know, even the defense was good and

1062
00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:31,480
Speaker 4: I think about I think my era, Oh my goodness.

1063
00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:32,759
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1064
00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:34,080
Speaker 1: But but here's the thing.

1065
00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:38,239
Speaker 2: The Steelers have always prided themselves on defense until they

1066
00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:40,560
Speaker 2: got Big Ben and then all of a sudden, they

1067
00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:42,920
Speaker 2: started getting those receivers and they started throwing the football.

1068
00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:46,239
Speaker 2: So when they got they had Ben, they had Levey Yard,

1069
00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:48,439
Speaker 2: they had a b They was like, we're just gonna

1070
00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:48,880
Speaker 2: outscore you.

1071
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:51,719
Speaker 1: Well they were mastery then, boy oh absolutely, because they

1072
00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:52,840
Speaker 1: could run it, they could throw it.

1073
00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:57,800
Speaker 2: The defense was good, but the championship level teams that

1074
00:50:57,880 --> 00:51:00,600
Speaker 2: they had, it was still a defensive base football team.

1075
00:51:00,680 --> 00:51:00,839
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1076
00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:03,680
Speaker 2: When they had with Lamar Woodley, they had James Harrison,

1077
00:51:03,719 --> 00:51:06,440
Speaker 2: they had Barrier, they had Foot, had Troy, they had

1078
00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:14,160
Speaker 2: I that had Ryan Clark, they had they had a

1079
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:20,520
Speaker 2: keyesel Oh yeah with a beard Yeah, Aaron Smith.

1080
00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:23,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, yea yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Didn't have Aaron Smith

1081
00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:32,840
Speaker 1: with it, Kem Yeah, Ben o'hawker, yeah, Carson Manu.

1082
00:51:33,120 --> 00:51:36,360
Speaker 2: Russ said after the game, I'm not blinking on George Pickings.

1083
00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:38,320
Speaker 2: If anybody believes in him, I definitely do.

1084
00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:40,800
Speaker 1: There we go. That's what I'm talking about. That's quarterback. Quarterback.

1085
00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:41,279
Speaker 1: Got to say that.

1086
00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:43,040
Speaker 4: Now after you say what you need to say it

1087
00:51:43,080 --> 00:51:47,279
Speaker 4: from the media, pull pull him aside, and then talk

1088
00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:50,680
Speaker 4: to him, not know, not know any kind of talk.

1089
00:51:50,560 --> 00:51:53,880
Speaker 1: I'm talking about on the corner. Now he ready, he

1090
00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:55,520
Speaker 1: ain't ready to have that cut. That's not First of all,

1091
00:51:55,600 --> 00:51:56,880
Speaker 1: that's not Russ's personality.

1092
00:51:58,120 --> 00:52:00,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I mean that, that's that's what Russ. You know,

1093
00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:03,360
Speaker 4: Russ got that inning, Russ got that innie. Russ got

1094
00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:05,279
Speaker 4: to talk to him like that. You can't talk he

1095
00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:07,480
Speaker 4: annoyed it. You can't talk to Ojo. You know when

1096
00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:09,640
Speaker 4: you annoyed it. You can't talk to people like that. Hey,

1097
00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:12,959
Speaker 4: listen and you need to talk to it. Hey, even

1098
00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:15,760
Speaker 4: even the passer, even the pass will pull you aside

1099
00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:17,840
Speaker 4: and then step out the pool pit and talk to

1100
00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:18,399
Speaker 4: you the right way.

1101
00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:22,520
Speaker 1: Now, Russ got that in you, you got it. He

1102
00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:23,239
Speaker 1: got the team.

1103
00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:27,520
Speaker 2: On the other hand, didn't let me talk to him

1104
00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:34,399
Speaker 2: because what what I'm annoyed? Win? Right? That ain't gonna

1105
00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:35,680
Speaker 2: get me in the He gonna get me into the

1106
00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:38,279
Speaker 2: pearly game. So I would say, Lord, I gonna ask

1107
00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:43,600
Speaker 2: for forgiveness, Oh Joe. The Ravens captured the AFC third

1108
00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:45,680
Speaker 2: seed and will play host to either the Chargers or

1109
00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:48,040
Speaker 2: the Steelers next week and the wild card ride of

1110
00:52:48,080 --> 00:52:51,160
Speaker 2: the playoffs. Lamar captain historic season with the Performers. Today,

1111
00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:54,200
Speaker 2: he was sixteen or thirty two two hundred and seventeen yards,

1112
00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:57,280
Speaker 2: two touchdowns. He rushed nine times for sixty three yards.

1113
00:52:57,560 --> 00:53:01,360
Speaker 2: He became the first player in NFL with four thousand

1114
00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:05,040
Speaker 2: passing yards nine hundred rushing yards, and he's the first

1115
00:53:05,120 --> 00:53:09,680
Speaker 2: player Aaron Rodgers to throw more than forty touchdowns with

1116
00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:11,160
Speaker 2: fewer than five interceptions.

1117
00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:15,960
Speaker 1: And he just finished. Jordan, open this up, get a bigger.

1118
00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:19,160
Speaker 2: He's the first quart He finished with the second highest

1119
00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:26,239
Speaker 2: quarterback rating in NFL history, behind Aaron Rodgers. So he's

1120
00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:29,040
Speaker 2: the second quarterback to go forty and fewer than five.

1121
00:53:29,560 --> 00:53:32,400
Speaker 2: He finished with the second highest quarterback rating. He's the

1122
00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:36,120
Speaker 2: first quarterback in NFL history with forty plus fashion touchdowns

1123
00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:36,520
Speaker 2: and nine.

1124
00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:39,600
Speaker 1: Hundred yards rushing, and his team won the division.

1125
00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:42,520
Speaker 2: Yea, guys, look, I know it's gonna be close, and

1126
00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:44,640
Speaker 2: I know Josh Allen has had a phenomenal season. And

1127
00:53:44,719 --> 00:53:47,280
Speaker 2: I don't know if anybody thought that Josh Allen considering

1128
00:53:47,360 --> 00:53:53,120
Speaker 2: what he lost with Gabe Davis, with Stefan Digg's leaving,

1129
00:53:53,640 --> 00:54:00,120
Speaker 2: Tradavius White, Davis, Travarious tra Various White, Michael High.

1130
00:54:01,719 --> 00:54:06,239
Speaker 1: A poorer, he lost a lot. Yeah, but how do

1131
00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:12,520
Speaker 1: I deny? How? How how o Joe? Do I deny this? Yeah?

1132
00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:15,000
Speaker 1: It's hard? How do I deny it? It's hard? And

1133
00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:17,160
Speaker 1: listen when you look at him, you look at Lamar's

1134
00:54:17,239 --> 00:54:19,200
Speaker 1: what Lamar has been able to do, especially his numbers

1135
00:54:19,239 --> 00:54:22,240
Speaker 1: this year. How do you say he's not the MVP?

1136
00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:24,240
Speaker 1: But I could tell you one thing about them voters.

1137
00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:26,960
Speaker 1: I could tell you one thing about them, voters. Despite

1138
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:29,319
Speaker 1: what we made think, despite what's right there in your

1139
00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:32,120
Speaker 1: face statistically, and what Lamar has been able to do

1140
00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:35,040
Speaker 1: this season, they will find a way. They will find

1141
00:54:35,080 --> 00:54:37,440
Speaker 1: a way to move the gold post. Whatever their reasoning

1142
00:54:37,560 --> 00:54:37,759
Speaker 1: may be.

1143
00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:40,480
Speaker 4: I'm not sure what it may be, because they just

1144
00:54:40,560 --> 00:54:42,439
Speaker 4: want to give it to Josh Allen, because Josh Allen

1145
00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:45,880
Speaker 4: has had a phenomenal year with less. He's had a

1146
00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:48,839
Speaker 4: phenomenal year with less. Now what they will take into

1147
00:54:48,840 --> 00:54:51,080
Speaker 4: accounts when it comes to who they decide to be

1148
00:54:51,160 --> 00:54:54,880
Speaker 4: the MVP, I don't know. I wish Yoah when the

1149
00:54:54,920 --> 00:55:01,640
Speaker 4: Bills play Jamorrow, Okay, but Josh Allen ain't playing, no see.

1150
00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:05,040
Speaker 4: I wish he was playing, honestly, just for me, just

1151
00:55:05,120 --> 00:55:07,200
Speaker 4: for the sake of the race and the talk of

1152
00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:10,239
Speaker 4: the MVP. I wish he was playing so he could

1153
00:55:10,280 --> 00:55:13,640
Speaker 4: put on one last show, one last show, and because

1154
00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:16,640
Speaker 4: based on what Lamar Jackson did today, that really sALS.

1155
00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:19,640
Speaker 1: The deal for me. You know, I'm not I'm not

1156
00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:21,160
Speaker 1: a voter. I'm not the one voting.

1157
00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:24,400
Speaker 4: So if the voter is already in, then it's already

1158
00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:26,759
Speaker 4: been made, regardless of what Lamar Jackson did today or not,

1159
00:55:27,680 --> 00:55:31,040
Speaker 4: because if it's based off his last performance and what

1160
00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:34,239
Speaker 4: he's done in the totality of the season, it's going

1161
00:55:34,280 --> 00:55:36,480
Speaker 4: to got dam Lamar Jackson. I don't see how it

1162
00:55:36,560 --> 00:55:36,880
Speaker 4: could not.

1163
00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:39,759
Speaker 1: And the first thing he's gonna say was, well, damn

1164
00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:44,279
Speaker 1: well he had Derrick Henry. That could be the only argument. Yeah,

1165
00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:47,399
Speaker 1: And the thing else, Derrick Henry might take some vote

1166
00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:48,399
Speaker 1: from Lamar. Yeah.

1167
00:55:48,560 --> 00:55:52,360
Speaker 2: I mean because he had what nineteen hundred yards in

1168
00:55:52,520 --> 00:55:57,480
Speaker 2: sixteen touchdowns, second most rush yards in Baltimore history. Obviously,

1169
00:55:58,239 --> 00:56:01,120
Speaker 2: Jamal has the record at two thousand and six the

1170
00:56:01,200 --> 00:56:04,880
Speaker 2: most rough touchdowns in a single season sixteen. He's the

1171
00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:08,200
Speaker 2: first guy with an NFL history to have two seasons

1172
00:56:08,280 --> 00:56:13,640
Speaker 2: in which he rushed for over nineteen hundred yards ed

1173
00:56:14,360 --> 00:56:16,680
Speaker 2: in his rookie season, rushed for eighteen eighteen and then

1174
00:56:16,719 --> 00:56:18,880
Speaker 2: he came back in second season and went twenty one

1175
00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:21,960
Speaker 2: oh five. Derrick Henry could him easily had he not

1176
00:56:22,320 --> 00:56:24,520
Speaker 2: gotten hurt that year. There was a year that Derrick

1177
00:56:24,560 --> 00:56:27,040
Speaker 2: Henry was ahead of the pace in which he broke

1178
00:56:27,239 --> 00:56:29,719
Speaker 2: with He had over two thousand yards. He was ahead

1179
00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:32,359
Speaker 2: of that pace the following year, got injured and missed

1180
00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:35,120
Speaker 2: the rest of the season, so theoretically he might have

1181
00:56:35,239 --> 00:56:38,640
Speaker 2: had three nineteen hundred yard seasons or maybe even another

1182
00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:39,719
Speaker 2: two thousand yard season.

1183
00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:41,800
Speaker 1: Okay, but I think.

1184
00:56:43,239 --> 00:56:46,160
Speaker 2: With what he's done, he's definitely played himself into a

1185
00:56:46,200 --> 00:56:49,200
Speaker 2: first battlet of Hall of Famer. I haven't been a

1186
00:56:49,280 --> 00:56:51,359
Speaker 2: round him a whole lot, oh Joe, but a little

1187
00:56:51,400 --> 00:56:52,160
Speaker 2: bit of time I've been.

1188
00:56:52,040 --> 00:56:52,520
Speaker 1: A rounding him.

1189
00:56:52,520 --> 00:56:54,960
Speaker 2: I really liked it, Henry. I really like any great guy.

1190
00:56:55,920 --> 00:56:58,040
Speaker 2: You could tell he worked hard, he takes his stuff serious.

1191
00:56:58,160 --> 00:57:01,160
Speaker 2: First of all, it's hard for guy that that go

1192
00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:04,160
Speaker 2: to Alabama to not work hard. You're not finna not

1193
00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:07,439
Speaker 2: work hard on saving watch. That's not gonna happen.

1194
00:57:09,400 --> 00:57:11,320
Speaker 1: So it's kind of like if you go to New England.

1195
00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:13,200
Speaker 2: You know, if you get somebody from New England, Joe,

1196
00:57:13,239 --> 00:57:16,360
Speaker 2: for the most part, especially if they got drafted in

1197
00:57:16,440 --> 00:57:18,360
Speaker 2: New England, Oh, they're gonna work hard. You know what

1198
00:57:18,440 --> 00:57:21,760
Speaker 2: you yet, co Coach Belichick, don't play that foolish now.

1199
00:57:23,600 --> 00:57:26,800
Speaker 2: But look, I used to have a votere had a

1200
00:57:26,840 --> 00:57:28,640
Speaker 2: vote for a decade when I was a CBS. I

1201
00:57:28,720 --> 00:57:31,160
Speaker 2: no longer have a vote, O Joe, But for me,

1202
00:57:31,240 --> 00:57:35,120
Speaker 2: I would vote my eyes tell me that this is

1203
00:57:35,200 --> 00:57:38,040
Speaker 2: the MVP. He's had an MVP season, and I believe

1204
00:57:38,080 --> 00:57:41,600
Speaker 2: he would have earned the award, not deserved. I believe

1205
00:57:41,640 --> 00:57:44,440
Speaker 2: he would have earned the award with his play. But

1206
00:57:44,600 --> 00:57:46,680
Speaker 2: I can understand that some people don't vote for josh

1207
00:57:46,720 --> 00:57:49,120
Speaker 2: Alla for the very reason that you said he's done.

1208
00:57:49,560 --> 00:57:52,720
Speaker 2: He's won more games with less. He doesn't have a

1209
00:57:52,800 --> 00:57:55,560
Speaker 2: thousand yard receiver. Uh, he doesn't have anybody going to

1210
00:57:55,640 --> 00:57:58,640
Speaker 2: the Pro Bowl other than an offensive lineman. Dion Dawkins

1211
00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:03,240
Speaker 2: lives is going to the Pro Bowl. Lamar Sentner's going

1212
00:58:03,280 --> 00:58:06,080
Speaker 2: to the Pro Bowl. Deck Henry's going to the Pro Bowl.

1213
00:58:06,360 --> 00:58:14,120
Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson is going to the Pro Bowl. Marlon Marlon

1214
00:58:14,200 --> 00:58:16,960
Speaker 2: Humphreys going to the Pro Bowl. Hamilton, the All World

1215
00:58:17,000 --> 00:58:19,160
Speaker 2: safety is going to the Pro Bowl, Mata Bee Quay

1216
00:58:20,200 --> 00:58:23,160
Speaker 2: and going to the Pro Bowl. So I understand, Ojo,

1217
00:58:23,320 --> 00:58:26,560
Speaker 2: I do understand the voters. They said with Shannon, look

1218
00:58:26,640 --> 00:58:31,320
Speaker 2: at what he's done with far less talent. Okay, But boy,

1219
00:58:31,360 --> 00:58:34,240
Speaker 2: when I look at this, and the argument is, you

1220
00:58:34,360 --> 00:58:36,280
Speaker 2: go back and look at some of those drew Ree seasons.

1221
00:58:36,920 --> 00:58:39,240
Speaker 1: You breathe that five thousand yards and forty tests downs,

1222
00:58:39,280 --> 00:58:44,040
Speaker 1: it didn't win it VP. It's just man. When I

1223
00:58:44,160 --> 00:58:46,240
Speaker 1: just watched Lamar, I mean four thousand yards.

1224
00:58:46,240 --> 00:58:49,160
Speaker 2: I would have never believed it, Ojo, because all I

1225
00:58:49,280 --> 00:58:50,880
Speaker 2: said that if he can get his if he can

1226
00:58:50,920 --> 00:58:54,000
Speaker 2: get his arm to eighty five percent of his legs,

1227
00:58:54,440 --> 00:58:57,040
Speaker 2: he's gonna be a multiple time MVP because his legs

1228
00:58:57,080 --> 00:59:00,720
Speaker 2: are ridiculous. Well, now his arm is ninety percent of

1229
00:59:00,800 --> 00:59:05,880
Speaker 2: his leg and this is what you get now, had

1230
00:59:05,960 --> 00:59:09,200
Speaker 2: he wanted to, could have been four thousand and a thousand, Yeah,

1231
00:59:09,240 --> 00:59:09,640
Speaker 2: he could have.

1232
00:59:11,040 --> 00:59:15,360
Speaker 1: He could have easily. And listen, he's still might. He

1233
00:59:15,480 --> 00:59:16,680
Speaker 1: got a long way to go. Boy.

1234
00:59:17,680 --> 00:59:20,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think the thing is on your that's

1235
00:59:20,880 --> 00:59:22,720
Speaker 2: not on his mind anymore. He can throw the ball

1236
00:59:22,800 --> 00:59:24,520
Speaker 2: so much so he don't rely on it. He's not

1237
00:59:24,760 --> 00:59:28,320
Speaker 2: nearly rely because now he used to like get the

1238
00:59:28,400 --> 00:59:30,960
Speaker 2: ball it's broke down, he's looking to run.

1239
00:59:31,520 --> 00:59:34,400
Speaker 1: Now if it breaks down, he's looking to buy time

1240
00:59:34,480 --> 00:59:34,880
Speaker 1: to throw it.

1241
00:59:35,320 --> 00:59:38,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, he gonna let some guys, hey before I before

1242
00:59:38,320 --> 00:59:40,920
Speaker 2: I absolutely have to take off for yall and put

1243
00:59:41,000 --> 00:59:43,480
Speaker 2: this thing under my arm. I'm going to let you

1244
00:59:43,560 --> 00:59:47,600
Speaker 2: guys get some type okay, likely get open, Okay, Andrews,

1245
00:59:47,600 --> 00:59:50,240
Speaker 2: I'm gonna give you an opportunity. Okay, flyers, Okay, baby,

1246
00:59:50,240 --> 00:59:51,880
Speaker 2: I'm gonna give you guys a chance to get open.

1247
00:59:52,160 --> 00:59:54,800
Speaker 2: I don't want to run, but I'll do it. Hey,

1248
00:59:55,200 --> 00:59:57,560
Speaker 2: like Gator told him to say, Baba, Hey, don't make

1249
00:59:57,560 --> 00:59:59,280
Speaker 2: me hit the whole lady over here. Mama, I'll do it.

1250
01:00:01,280 --> 01:00:04,240
Speaker 2: You know, we had that hay he said, Baba Gato.

1251
01:00:04,360 --> 01:00:06,120
Speaker 2: She asked him to say gayto what happened to the TV.

1252
01:00:06,440 --> 01:00:08,280
Speaker 2: He said, damn it, Mama, I smoked the TV.

1253
01:00:11,200 --> 01:00:14,120
Speaker 1: You know, you know the extent of z Flowers injury.

1254
01:00:14,560 --> 01:00:17,760
Speaker 4: I hope he's okay, You're good, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

1255
01:00:17,800 --> 01:00:19,320
Speaker 4: he's scared. He scared me a little bit when he

1256
01:00:19,360 --> 01:00:21,680
Speaker 4: grabbed and when he grabbed the way, yeah, because I

1257
01:00:21,720 --> 01:00:22,080
Speaker 4: just see it.

1258
01:00:22,160 --> 01:00:24,120
Speaker 2: It looked like maybe something he got, maybe something. It's

1259
01:00:24,200 --> 01:00:25,600
Speaker 2: just like a little bone bruise or something.

1260
01:00:25,880 --> 01:00:28,520
Speaker 1: Children another dude he needs with the dude on the way.

1261
01:00:28,560 --> 01:00:32,120
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, Okay, okay, okay, because you know, hey, man, hey,

1262
01:00:32,840 --> 01:00:34,800
Speaker 2: and you know, at least now cho they play with

1263
01:00:34,880 --> 01:00:37,040
Speaker 2: knee pads. You know, we just did that hard ass dirt.

1264
01:00:37,080 --> 01:00:40,200
Speaker 2: We have no knee pass at all, nothing knee pass,

1265
01:00:40,440 --> 01:00:43,440
Speaker 2: no thigh pass. They got, Hey, they got knee pass

1266
01:00:43,520 --> 01:00:45,520
Speaker 2: five pass. Hell, I mean some of the problem running

1267
01:00:45,560 --> 01:00:47,880
Speaker 2: backs where he a path, But we're out there just

1268
01:00:48,200 --> 01:00:50,919
Speaker 2: basically we had on type to make a long story short.

1269
01:00:50,960 --> 01:00:52,880
Speaker 2: We had on type because we had him take it

1270
01:00:52,920 --> 01:00:55,280
Speaker 2: all the all the in the workings of our paint games.

1271
01:00:55,880 --> 01:00:58,000
Speaker 2: Cut all that out, but all that out. Y'all know

1272
01:00:58,040 --> 01:01:01,200
Speaker 2: who started that. We started that, y'all. Thank y'all thanked

1273
01:01:01,200 --> 01:01:05,920
Speaker 2: the Broncos took back then when you yes, yes, okay, yes,

1274
01:01:06,480 --> 01:01:08,200
Speaker 2: we cut our pants and then you would have the

1275
01:01:08,280 --> 01:01:10,480
Speaker 2: shoe string for the belt to tie it up.

1276
01:01:10,680 --> 01:01:15,800
Speaker 1: Yeah. But the first person, actually I would to give Ricky.

1277
01:01:16,120 --> 01:01:18,240
Speaker 2: Ricky Jackson was the first person I ever saw that

1278
01:01:18,400 --> 01:01:21,520
Speaker 2: had no pass in the span And I was like, man,

1279
01:01:22,320 --> 01:01:23,320
Speaker 2: wed let you do that.

1280
01:01:25,240 --> 01:01:27,560
Speaker 1: I went out there like, hey, you feel so light? Oh,

1281
01:01:27,680 --> 01:01:28,600
Speaker 1: y'all don't like.

1282
01:01:32,400 --> 01:01:34,440
Speaker 2: And I remember I remember when I came to practice

1283
01:01:34,720 --> 01:01:37,000
Speaker 2: and Mike asked, like, eighty four, you're gonna play in

1284
01:01:37,040 --> 01:01:40,400
Speaker 2: the game like that? I like, yeah, He's like, okay,

1285
01:01:41,080 --> 01:01:46,040
Speaker 2: that's on you. Hey, if however, he said, come to practice,

1286
01:01:46,240 --> 01:01:50,560
Speaker 2: however you're going to play in the game now, Dad

1287
01:01:50,600 --> 01:01:54,040
Speaker 2: Reeve wasn't playing that. Dad Reeve said, look, if you good,

1288
01:01:54,160 --> 01:01:55,760
Speaker 2: if you don't have no pass in and you get

1289
01:01:55,800 --> 01:02:02,160
Speaker 2: a five bruise, I'm gonna find you. Let me go

1290
01:02:02,240 --> 01:02:06,880
Speaker 2: and put this thing. Let me put then let me

1291
01:02:07,400 --> 01:02:07,680
Speaker 2: be there.

1292
01:02:10,560 --> 01:02:11,880
Speaker 1: Do you want to know? Have to worry about this?

1293
01:02:12,120 --> 01:02:14,760
Speaker 4: It's so funny. When we used to practice right with

1294
01:02:15,160 --> 01:02:17,600
Speaker 4: Belichick in New England. You could play in the game

1295
01:02:17,680 --> 01:02:20,960
Speaker 4: happy you want to. But Bill in practice, he had

1296
01:02:21,000 --> 01:02:23,520
Speaker 4: everybody looking like the goddamn mannecan in the damn all

1297
01:02:23,720 --> 01:02:25,280
Speaker 4: you know, the mannequin in the equipment room.

1298
01:02:25,800 --> 01:02:27,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it could be on the wall on how

1299
01:02:27,280 --> 01:02:27,720
Speaker 1: you supported.

1300
01:02:27,840 --> 01:02:30,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, got he got an elbow pad, he got, he

1301
01:02:30,280 --> 01:02:32,120
Speaker 2: got on the head hand pad.

1302
01:02:32,840 --> 01:02:36,640
Speaker 4: Little kid, Bill, make everybody you gotta have your knee

1303
01:02:36,680 --> 01:02:39,160
Speaker 4: pass in, your thigh pass in, no matter how you

1304
01:02:39,240 --> 01:02:40,720
Speaker 4: feel like the game you Yeah.

1305
01:02:40,680 --> 01:02:44,640
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my god, what that would be crazy?

1306
01:02:44,800 --> 01:02:46,040
Speaker 1: And he he ain't playing that.

1307
01:02:46,080 --> 01:02:48,760
Speaker 4: If you ain't remember went out there one time, I'm thinking,

1308
01:02:48,800 --> 01:02:49,640
Speaker 4: you know, I'm a veteran.

1309
01:02:50,000 --> 01:02:52,600
Speaker 1: He knock on trip here I go. I'm out there.

1310
01:02:53,000 --> 01:02:55,400
Speaker 1: Took the lining out of my pants, no knee pad,

1311
01:02:55,520 --> 01:02:58,120
Speaker 1: no thigh path. Man. Bill sent me in there, sending

1312
01:02:58,160 --> 01:02:59,760
Speaker 1: me right back in I.

1313
01:02:59,760 --> 01:03:02,160
Speaker 4: Had change my pants and get some new pants and

1314
01:03:02,240 --> 01:03:04,000
Speaker 4: put my thigh pass and the knee pads ain't just

1315
01:03:04,120 --> 01:03:09,040
Speaker 4: for practice, but.

1316
01:03:09,560 --> 01:03:13,120
Speaker 2: Hey, that was a mike like, Hey, if you don't play,

1317
01:03:13,200 --> 01:03:17,800
Speaker 2: if you don't play with no knee pass, no thigh pass,

1318
01:03:18,960 --> 01:03:22,480
Speaker 2: you can't practice without them. Well, hey, I ain't have

1319
01:03:22,600 --> 01:03:25,640
Speaker 2: nothing help of the show the past, that's all I had.

1320
01:03:25,880 --> 01:03:27,680
Speaker 2: I ain't have no thigh pass. I didn't play with

1321
01:03:27,760 --> 01:03:29,840
Speaker 2: no mouthpiece. It's like, man, you got I said, bro,

1322
01:03:30,320 --> 01:03:33,000
Speaker 2: I don't have time out of out of slap hands

1323
01:03:33,040 --> 01:03:35,360
Speaker 2: with somebody to hit somebody on their ass. They made

1324
01:03:35,400 --> 01:03:37,320
Speaker 2: a good play, and you think I'm reaching my mouth

1325
01:03:37,400 --> 01:03:40,240
Speaker 2: and pull my mounthpiece out, and plus I want to

1326
01:03:40,320 --> 01:03:42,000
Speaker 2: be able to talk ish on command.

1327
01:03:41,800 --> 01:03:46,000
Speaker 1: And that far more fault. Uh huh. I ain't put

1328
01:03:46,080 --> 01:03:49,960
Speaker 1: the mouth piece. Just a mouthful of gold, that is it. Yeah.

1329
01:03:50,440 --> 01:03:52,600
Speaker 2: I had them three sticks, a big red in my mouth.

1330
01:03:52,640 --> 01:03:56,280
Speaker 2: I was good red, but fresh talk with cashish.

1331
01:03:57,680 --> 01:03:58,880
Speaker 1: Oh, there was some good days.

1332
01:03:59,000 --> 01:03:59,200
Speaker 5: Boy.

1333
01:04:01,040 --> 01:04:01,680
Speaker 2: The volume