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Speaker 1: Revere, Revere Dogs. Look at us now. Tip to Tim.

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Speaker 1: This is our life, this is our passion. That's the

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Speaker 1: spirit we bring to this show. I'm Luke Thomas, I'm

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Speaker 1: Brian Campbell.

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Speaker 2: This this Morning Combat.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, fresh off the bird, It's time to bang.

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Speaker 1: Morning Combat is back at it Monday, May sixth, two

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Speaker 1: thousand and twenty four. You're looking at two wash dads.

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Speaker 1: That's Luke Thomas. This is that BBC with that BDE

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Speaker 1: Brian Campbell and Luke. We were in Las Vegas this

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Speaker 1: past weekend, Canelo versus Mongia. We're gonna recap that. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna recap UFC three on one night. A new Age

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Speaker 1: just did magic in Japan. But Luke, I had a

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Speaker 1: travel day from hell yesterday on my seventeenth wedding anniversary.

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Speaker 2: No less, are you officially divorced now?

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Speaker 1: No, no, thank you my full wife for understanding that

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Speaker 1: this is the price we pay on top, Luke. But

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Speaker 1: you know I spent the night in a in a

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Speaker 1: in a NUBS Airport hotel in Philadelphia and took the

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Speaker 1: train in this morning. And I'll played disease Roulette at Newark,

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Speaker 1: penn for a second. But I'm back I'm ready to go.

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Speaker 1: I'm well showered, but my clothes definitely not, Luke, So

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Speaker 1: you're gonna have to deal with that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I don't know why the kids say it this way,

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Speaker 3: but they say it's giving and then they describe something.

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Speaker 3: I don't know why they do it that way, but

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Speaker 3: I'm just gonna say it's giving, homeless right here.

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Speaker 2: Yes, it's giving.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I had swamp ass and I just had to

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Speaker 1: endure right through it. But boy, do we have a

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Speaker 1: fun show for you today. As I mentioned, a huge

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Speaker 1: weekend in combat sports to recap. Look, we got to

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Speaker 1: reconnect over the weekend in Vegas with our bonus Morning

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Speaker 1: Combat show shout out to our partner DraftKings and the

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Speaker 1: interview special. We did the Room Service Diaries, which is

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Speaker 1: what's up out right now YouTube dot com. Slash Morning

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Speaker 1: Combat will take a look at it. I didn't get

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Speaker 1: a chance to view it yet, but I've already heard

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Speaker 1: from Long Island. Luke on the ones and two is

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Speaker 1: that you know, trying in a Hooters was was more

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Speaker 1: than enough to get him involved in press play.

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Speaker 3: So there you go, that's a real thing that happened.

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Speaker 3: Shouts of the Willimsburg hooters.

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Speaker 1: Yes, quickly, Luke before we h we you know, we

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Speaker 1: bang bang zang and get into this, did you? I

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Speaker 1: forgot there's a new video by the way, and I

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Speaker 1: forgot to put it. And have you seen this ship

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Speaker 1: where what sang is like I want to bang you

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Speaker 1: and they just like he says, I am bang bang.

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, he says, I'm going to bang.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to bang either.

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Speaker 2: That was your pickup line in high school.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that was that was here.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to bang you.

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Speaker 1: Have you washed the did you have enough adequate time

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Speaker 1: since you left early and didn't stay for Canelo to

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Speaker 1: wash the Vegas off of you?

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Speaker 2: Yes, I have.

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Speaker 3: I showered and scalding hot water and like like the

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Speaker 3: Hooters in Wimsburg cried in the shower.

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Speaker 1: There it is there, and I got it out.

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Speaker 2: Of my system. I can't stand that.

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Speaker 1: City really, you know, like I really can't. I don't

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Speaker 3: I mean, and everyone who lives there is like, oh, well,

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Speaker 3: Vegas is not the strip? Yeah, I fucking hope yes,

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Speaker 3: because the strip gives me diarrhea, well diarrhea, bed bugs

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Speaker 1: Well, speaking of diarrhea, we'll get to that in a second.

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Speaker 1: But my guy Alan Dawson and I went down Fremont

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Speaker 1: in all of that visual There's a lot going on there.

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Speaker 1: But it was, you know, it was very equivalent to

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Speaker 1: that scene in Total Recall when they go to Mars

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Speaker 1: boob reveal, which is really just cinematically Brian Campbell.

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Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, no one wants a third titty more

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Speaker 1: It was another world, Luke. And I'm not talking about

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Speaker 1: the Cosby spin off, right, isn't that what it's called?

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Speaker 1: All right? Speaking of diarrhea, Long Island, Luke in the back, look,

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Speaker 1: Can we show the text message in the back here?

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Speaker 1: This is from Luke immediately after last week's show.

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Speaker 2: This is fake news. I did not send that text.

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Speaker 1: We we have the HR police fake news. They are

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Speaker 2: All right, I've been set up.

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Speaker 3: I'm like Ryan Garcia, Yes, you just hate me because

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Speaker 1: is where we were at this Saturday PBC on Prime

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Speaker 1: pay per View in Las Vegas and Canelo Alvarez the

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Speaker 1: Four Belt super middleweight, undisputed champion pound for pound, great,

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Speaker 1: all time great did nothing to change those narratives against

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Speaker 1: that in root to a unanimous decision victory. So luke

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Speaker 1: the way Canelo responded. People said he didn't want to

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Speaker 1: weekend that brings Niowa a new way back out and

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Speaker 1: Terence Crawford, of course competing for number one just the same.

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Speaker 3: Obviously, Terrence Crawford returns at one to fifty four against

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Speaker 3: in a moment. But for Canelo, I have to tell

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Speaker 3: That partly, but also on the Canelo situation, I have

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Speaker 2: So okay, let's talk about the good side.

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Speaker 1: Did you not experience the siesta that was the Sinko

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Speaker 1: Demaios celebration. I know you weren't in that arena.

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Speaker 3: think even it was Fiat, they weren't. They weren't sleeping.

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Speaker 2: King Signaria that what they were doing.

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Speaker 1: I caught it New York.

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Speaker 1: It translate through the screen of what this was in

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Speaker 3: I thought Canelo's defense Mungia. I thought for sure heading

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Speaker 3: There were so many shots, yes early but especially late

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Speaker 3: then again Canello kind of closes the door on Mungia.

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Speaker 3: The problem for me in this fight was that, like

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Speaker 3: He was so much bigger than Charlo, he was so

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Speaker 3: much bigger than Canello when they were there standing next

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Speaker 1: I'm not.

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Speaker 1: Seven in expect you to take a heel turn at

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Speaker 1: But are you saying more of Hey, man, good event.

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Speaker 3: So I would bring I would say he's too good

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Speaker 1: But don't you think forty three and oh, Mangia just

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Speaker 1: He showed ain and a half.

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Speaker 3: He showed a great chin, he showed good resiliency. He

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Speaker 3: you're taking while respectable and frankly very commendable performances, it's

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Speaker 1: Okay, I think that the fact that you were not

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Speaker 1: It was better than that. But if you could argue

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Speaker 1: The other argument, of course, is fight Benavita's next and

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Speaker 2: What am I? What am I denying him?

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Speaker 3: Because you haven't made that clear because I'm not as

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Speaker 1: Because you weren't entertained on the leve of you.

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Speaker 3: Except my argument. What am I denying him? What is

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Speaker 1: You're almost denying Mangia more You're basically saying that this

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Speaker 3: I agree that Mungia was he better than the last

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Speaker 2: And what is he?

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Speaker 3: Twenty seven years old? He had forty four fights now

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Speaker 1: Would that performance have beaten I don't want to say

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Speaker 2: Just doesn't beat Morel or David Benavitez at all.

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Speaker 3: No, maybe against maybe against Benavitez. Early he is not

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Speaker 3: in that fight against David Morrell Junior. No, absolutely not.

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Speaker 3: This is what I'm talking about.

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Speaker 1: I didn't expect you to turn like this.

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Speaker 3: It's I'm not mad at Canelo, but I don't understand

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Speaker 3: But I kind of feel like we're setting into this

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Speaker 2: Yes?

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Speaker 3: Did we know ahead of time he probably had the

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Speaker 3: Yes, and you got exactly that. I'm asking you, where

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Speaker 1: In that one?

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Speaker 3: I know it was a mandatory exactly what you thought?

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Speaker 2: And what was the before this Charlo?

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Speaker 3: What happened when that one? Tubodie was a weird one too,

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Speaker 2: Did you know?

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Speaker 2: That's not all of Canelo's fault because Charlo really underperformed there.

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Speaker 3: I'm saying, are you are you really getting anything where

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Speaker 1: After round four there was, right, but there was a

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Speaker 1: can Mongia hang on? And ultimately he showed because I

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Speaker 3: Seriously, we don't know, because obviously Canelo could beat both

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Speaker 1: They will be tougher challenges than Mongia is on paper

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Speaker 1: do with that elephant in the room who was ringside

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Speaker 1: and Jim Gray asked Canelo about afterwards, and that's David Benavidez. So, Luke,

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Speaker 1: and he asked the right question. He said, Okay, everybody

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00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:07,840
Speaker 1: wants you to fight David Benavidez. David Benavidez said, you know,

438
00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:11,040
Speaker 1: let's do it now because benevide is moving up to

439
00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:12,960
Speaker 1: one seventy five on June fifteenth, and he has already

440
00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:15,639
Speaker 1: said this week like, if Canelo can't fight me in

441
00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:17,280
Speaker 1: this window, this is the last chance I can make

442
00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:20,280
Speaker 1: one sixty eight, or I'm willing to. And Canelo did

443
00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:22,760
Speaker 1: not feel that in a correct way in my opinion.

444
00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:25,040
Speaker 1: He said, well, I gotta, you know, take some rest

445
00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:27,840
Speaker 1: and go, you know, talk to my family, blah blah blah,

446
00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:32,960
Speaker 1: and I love, love love that the crowd lustfully booed

447
00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:35,199
Speaker 1: him in that moment. He had just beaten Mongie and

448
00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:37,560
Speaker 1: he got all the flowers from the pro Mexican crowd,

449
00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:40,000
Speaker 1: and then instantly they're like, wait, and I know that

450
00:19:40,040 --> 00:19:42,119
Speaker 1: this is Canelo's argument that like when is it going

451
00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:43,760
Speaker 1: to be good enough for these people? But we have

452
00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:46,560
Speaker 1: to continue to counter with Canelo, you're the you're the king,

453
00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:48,840
Speaker 1: and when you're the king with all those belts, the

454
00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:51,080
Speaker 1: rules are you must defend them against who's next in line,

455
00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:54,320
Speaker 1: and David Benavidez is next in line. So Canelo did

456
00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:56,879
Speaker 1: get them dismissive and defensive and then say what, well,

457
00:19:57,000 --> 00:20:00,199
Speaker 1: look if the price is right, if you essentially he's saying, look,

458
00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:02,240
Speaker 1: if you pay me the money I demand for this

459
00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:05,520
Speaker 1: challenge to take on this risk, then I'll do it. Luke.

460
00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:07,920
Speaker 1: Do I love that after the press conference when he's

461
00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:10,240
Speaker 1: doing media with like the only sec back guys on

462
00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:12,080
Speaker 1: the way out, that he's kind of going it would

463
00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:13,920
Speaker 1: need to be two hundred million, No, I don't love that,

464
00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:18,280
Speaker 1: but Canelo's basically telling you I don't want this fight,

465
00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:22,040
Speaker 1: but I understand the demand is there, so someone pay

466
00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:23,600
Speaker 1: me that money. You know what I mean, Pay me

467
00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:25,960
Speaker 1: the money, show me the money, pay that man his money.

468
00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:29,080
Speaker 1: There's a lot to break down here in terms of

469
00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:31,720
Speaker 1: from Canelo's intentions to what he's gonna look like against

470
00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:34,080
Speaker 1: these guys. But I feel like you're trying to say

471
00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:37,480
Speaker 1: that this performance against Mongia because it became predictable and

472
00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:40,520
Speaker 1: didn't necessarily force any of those questions beyond round four

473
00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:42,600
Speaker 1: to need to be answered in terms of like what

474
00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:45,000
Speaker 1: am I going to gain from this? I feel like

475
00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:46,879
Speaker 1: he looks pound for pound again. I feel like he

476
00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:50,639
Speaker 1: looks incredible again. I feel like I would now upgrade No,

477
00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:53,000
Speaker 1: is Mongia the same fighter as Bernavidez. No, but I

478
00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:56,440
Speaker 1: would upgrade the chances I'm giving Canelo in a potential

479
00:20:56,520 --> 00:20:59,000
Speaker 1: David Benavidez fight from this performance. I don't know how

480
00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:01,040
Speaker 1: you could say either way. I don't know how you

481
00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:02,640
Speaker 1: could say against that is what I'm trying to say.

482
00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:04,280
Speaker 1: I don't know how you could act like he didn't

483
00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:06,680
Speaker 1: show you at thirty three that he still got it.

484
00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:08,520
Speaker 2: He should be. He is still a force to be

485
00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:09,600
Speaker 2: reckoned with, if that's what you mean.

486
00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:11,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, dude, I'm not going to sit here and see

487
00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:14,280
Speaker 3: Canelo with some fraud or some scrub or bad or

488
00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:16,879
Speaker 3: he didn't perform well. He did perform well. He is

489
00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:20,200
Speaker 3: pound for pound good. He is again if he retired today,

490
00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:21,800
Speaker 3: hall of fame, like no question about it. On the

491
00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:24,560
Speaker 3: Mount Rushmore probably of all time Mexican fighters. I'm not

492
00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:27,040
Speaker 3: denying any of this number one, but what I'm saying

493
00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:29,640
Speaker 3: to everyone out here is, and let me.

494
00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:30,640
Speaker 2: Just put my cards on the table.

495
00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:33,840
Speaker 3: I would and I've been wrong in this studio many

496
00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:38,199
Speaker 3: times already. I would love to be wrong again. I

497
00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:40,600
Speaker 3: mean that so sincerely. I would love to be wrong.

498
00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:42,879
Speaker 3: I don't know exactly who he's gonna fight next, but

499
00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:45,080
Speaker 3: I don't think it's going to be David Benavitez.

500
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Speaker 1: It is okay, let's put our cards on the table

501
00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:49,760
Speaker 1: if he fights David or I'm sorry, Edgar Berlanga. Next

502
00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:52,960
Speaker 1: to is who there who has been named the mandatory

503
00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:55,800
Speaker 1: God by the WBC. Even though Morrell and Benavillez have

504
00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:59,160
Speaker 1: been sitting around, Yeah, Arl, the WBA been sitting around

505
00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:01,280
Speaker 1: being like I'm your second champion. I'm the number one contender,

506
00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:03,159
Speaker 1: I'm the interim champion. What else do we have to do.

507
00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:07,040
Speaker 1: If Canelo doesn't go at Benavita's next, we have to

508
00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:08,840
Speaker 1: bring out the torches. We have to say that at

509
00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:12,159
Speaker 1: this point in your career after looking that great against Mungia,

510
00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:13,600
Speaker 1: and he did. That's why I want to give him

511
00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:17,080
Speaker 1: the full credit. He looked Palm great, dude, he looks.

512
00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:18,680
Speaker 2: Great against a hand picked opponent.

513
00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:24,720
Speaker 1: Congratulating he MONGI would just put the best version of

514
00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:27,200
Speaker 1: himself ever in that fight, and with the distance, because

515
00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:29,600
Speaker 1: of that beard and the pride he had. How could

516
00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:30,440
Speaker 1: you actually.

517
00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:33,800
Speaker 3: He's got mandatories he didn't take for this one, and

518
00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:36,720
Speaker 3: if this one provided extraordinary action, or if he'd really blown

519
00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:38,600
Speaker 3: him out, I'd be like, Okay, that was that.

520
00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:40,000
Speaker 2: I was not necessarily.

521
00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:42,080
Speaker 3: I was kind of expecting more or less what we got,

522
00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:43,920
Speaker 3: which was a competent I talented.

523
00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:44,959
Speaker 1: It was fun to sea.

524
00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:46,800
Speaker 3: It was fun for a while, and then when when

525
00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:51,560
Speaker 3: you realize Mungia can't unlock the door anymore, was no

526
00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:52,359
Speaker 3: longer fun for me.

527
00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:54,879
Speaker 1: Why do you pen unless you're coming at unless your

528
00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:56,040
Speaker 1: whole stance right now is.

529
00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:57,640
Speaker 3: If this was a tournament and this was just where

530
00:22:57,680 --> 00:22:59,520
Speaker 3: these ended up. And he turned this in, that'd be

531
00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:01,880
Speaker 3: one thing, but this was a picked upon of Canelo.

532
00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:06,640
Speaker 2: You can't beat BC. BC. You cannot. On the one hand, tell.

533
00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:09,760
Speaker 3: Me he's the face of boxing, he's got mandatories he's

534
00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:12,840
Speaker 3: not taking, and then tell me, Mumgia wasn't hand picked.

535
00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:14,080
Speaker 2: Yes the fuck he was.

536
00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:17,960
Speaker 1: Canello is out of chances, excuses, or moves in the

537
00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:21,639
Speaker 1: court of public opinion to either fight Benavida's next or

538
00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:23,920
Speaker 1: you will never fight him, and we have to, I guess,

539
00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:26,000
Speaker 1: determine how much this will be a stain or an

540
00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:30,679
Speaker 1: asterisk on his incredible, all time great resume and career

541
00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:33,000
Speaker 1: up to this point as we're closing in on twenty

542
00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:36,439
Speaker 1: years as a professional. I fully agree with that. But

543
00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:39,239
Speaker 1: if he does fight him next, we all said, if

544
00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:42,320
Speaker 1: if you're not gonna fight Crawford or Benavidez, the only

545
00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:45,199
Speaker 1: fight we'd really accept was Mongia. Yes, well, look, it

546
00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:47,400
Speaker 1: was a big event. It was exciting, I know, maybe

547
00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:48,880
Speaker 1: more for me and the arena than you at home.

548
00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:51,160
Speaker 1: You're juggling UFC covered at the same time.

549
00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:52,920
Speaker 2: That's true, but I did rewatch it.

550
00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:55,879
Speaker 1: But yes, if Canelo doesn't go the direction of Benaville's

551
00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:58,880
Speaker 1: for any other reason, next gonna for any other reason. Next,

552
00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:00,920
Speaker 1: then let's drop all the bricks on him. Let's back

553
00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:04,040
Speaker 1: up the truck of you already said I already said,

554
00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:06,280
Speaker 1: he is, yes, but I just don't like this tone

555
00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:09,440
Speaker 1: where you're like, nothing again from this one fight waste.

556
00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:11,480
Speaker 3: I don't say nothing to gain. What I am trying

557
00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:13,119
Speaker 3: to point out to you is like, dude, how many

558
00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:16,680
Speaker 3: times it's a question for you, because I've reached my limit?

559
00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:21,920
Speaker 3: How many times do you want to see Canelo clearly

560
00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:25,520
Speaker 3: not take not just one, two of the toughest challenges

561
00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:29,679
Speaker 3: in this division and then beat a talented, hard working,

562
00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:34,800
Speaker 3: spirited performance from a challenger, the one who's ultimately overmatched,

563
00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:36,480
Speaker 3: and that Canelo just kind of I want to say,

564
00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:38,600
Speaker 3: he cruises but settles into a groove where he keeps

565
00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:39,760
Speaker 3: the lead on him for the whole time.

566
00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:42,280
Speaker 2: How many times do you want to see that he's

567
00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:43,960
Speaker 2: chances Okay, fair.

568
00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:45,760
Speaker 3: Enough, then we're actually not far apart, because what I'm

569
00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:47,879
Speaker 3: saying is this was the last one for me.

570
00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:48,800
Speaker 1: This was the last straw.

571
00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:51,960
Speaker 2: I can't I can't do this anymore. And if he picks.

572
00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:56,600
Speaker 3: I love dude Canelo. Literally we united over Canelo. We

573
00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:58,679
Speaker 3: found each other over Canelo.

574
00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:00,760
Speaker 2: Dude. I'm serious.

575
00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:03,880
Speaker 3: I love Canelo. I love his style. He has provided

576
00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:08,320
Speaker 3: us so many memorable nights. I don't really mind that

577
00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:10,800
Speaker 3: night Saturday night. But I guess what I am saying is,

578
00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:11,919
Speaker 3: this is the best way to put it.

579
00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:12,120
Speaker 1: BC.

580
00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:14,560
Speaker 2: I've had my limit with this, Okay, I've had my

581
00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:15,840
Speaker 2: life with you. I'm done with you.

582
00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:17,920
Speaker 1: Bitter, get off the pop. Because there is a stain,

583
00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:20,560
Speaker 1: there is a there is a price you have to

584
00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:22,480
Speaker 1: pay if you're not gonna fight, especially when the guys

585
00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:24,440
Speaker 1: has been next in line for years. So I want

586
00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:26,960
Speaker 1: to ask this. Look, I Benavidez, I believe is doing

587
00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:29,040
Speaker 1: the right thing by moving up to one seventy five.

588
00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:30,560
Speaker 1: He's gonna co headline.

589
00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:31,720
Speaker 2: Theres on Saturday.

590
00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:34,439
Speaker 1: He was there in attendance. What also could hurt Canelo

591
00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:37,040
Speaker 1: moving forward? Because outside of like Berlanga, he's really running

592
00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:39,520
Speaker 1: out of opponents. Really, he really is morell moved up.

593
00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:43,560
Speaker 1: Could Benavitas be also e FFing Canelo by doing this,

594
00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:47,520
Speaker 1: because think about it, Arthur Bederbeve just ruptured his meniscus

595
00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:49,240
Speaker 1: and his knee, so he's out of the Bevall fight

596
00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:53,320
Speaker 1: June first, Bevall's gonna uh instead defend the title against

597
00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:55,800
Speaker 1: an unbeaten opponent from Libya, sort of an unknown guy

598
00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:57,840
Speaker 1: that they threw in to just save the card. But

599
00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:00,000
Speaker 1: that's probably the root Canelo would want to go. If

600
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:02,359
Speaker 1: he still desires any smoke at one seventy five, you

601
00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:04,639
Speaker 1: would think, okay with better bev out, maybe try to

602
00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:07,439
Speaker 1: get a big money rematch with Bevall. Dude, Benevetez might

603
00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:09,119
Speaker 1: take that from him. If Benavidez goes in there and

604
00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:11,840
Speaker 1: wins this, it's not a secondary title, but I think

605
00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:14,800
Speaker 1: it's an interim light heavyweight title. They went again against Vosdik.

606
00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:17,640
Speaker 1: It's like a semi real belt, but it will really

607
00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:19,680
Speaker 1: establish him in the New Way class if he wins.

608
00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:22,120
Speaker 1: What if he stops Vodsick. What if he did that

609
00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:25,359
Speaker 1: and then is like, okay, better Beef's hurt. Well, Bevall,

610
00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:27,320
Speaker 1: I'm coming after you. Let's do it. Let's do it

611
00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:29,600
Speaker 1: in Saudi, Let's do it for Saudi money. I think

612
00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:31,119
Speaker 1: it would be hoof Canelo, and I think he's going

613
00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:34,359
Speaker 1: to ultimately get to this point from a businessman standpoint,

614
00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:36,719
Speaker 1: that if he goes the root of Berlanga and cashes

615
00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:39,000
Speaker 1: in on that mandatory and does Mexico versus Puerto Rico,

616
00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:41,000
Speaker 1: you can even do it in New York City. People

617
00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:43,600
Speaker 1: are just gonna look down on it and call him

618
00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:46,920
Speaker 1: out for ducking Benavidez. Meanwhile, Benavidez might go from winning

619
00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:50,760
Speaker 1: this title to potentially line himself up against Bevall with

620
00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:54,600
Speaker 1: Saudi money behind it. It behooves Canelo now in my opinion,

621
00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:57,119
Speaker 1: to go in the direction of Bernavidez aggressively, But it

622
00:26:57,160 --> 00:27:00,159
Speaker 1: also behooves him to beat Benavidez to the punch the

623
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:02,879
Speaker 1: standpoint of getting the finances he's looking to get to

624
00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:05,160
Speaker 1: make this fight happen. According to Canelo, his thirty five

625
00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:06,960
Speaker 1: million guarantees is not going to work for this one.

626
00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:08,960
Speaker 1: So Luke, I know he's saying two hundred million, but

627
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:12,119
Speaker 1: that's ridiculous. Do you think Saudi could step in and

628
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:15,119
Speaker 1: be the final middleman? Remember when Les Moonvez in a

629
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:17,720
Speaker 1: waiter in La somehow made Mayweather Pakia happened back at

630
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:21,199
Speaker 1: twenty fifteen, and the circumstances of events, does is it

631
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:23,080
Speaker 1: going to take Turkey Ala Chic for Canelo to fight

632
00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:24,399
Speaker 1: Benavidez in September.

633
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:27,119
Speaker 3: It's the best shot. It's the best shot short of that.

634
00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:31,480
Speaker 3: I don't think anything else does. I don't think there's presently,

635
00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:34,639
Speaker 3: as we're talking today, I do not think there is

636
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:37,800
Speaker 3: a significant amount of evidence that indicates Canelo wants to

637
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:39,600
Speaker 3: fight Benavidez or Morell.

638
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:40,840
Speaker 2: As we all know.

639
00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:43,280
Speaker 3: If that is the case, there's probably some reason we

640
00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:48,280
Speaker 3: understand that. I think that the Saudis could with an

641
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:52,320
Speaker 3: overwhelming amount of money, But I wonder if he is

642
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:54,560
Speaker 3: simply putting up an overwhelming amount of money where he

643
00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:56,159
Speaker 3: can just goalpost it. Oh, you can come up with

644
00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:57,520
Speaker 3: two two fifty, Oh you can come up with two

645
00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:00,400
Speaker 3: fifty three three fifty some outrageous amount. The point where

646
00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:02,160
Speaker 3: they're like, okay, we're not doing this, Like you don't

647
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:03,320
Speaker 3: you don't actually want it.

648
00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:05,920
Speaker 2: We will have to see the BC. I really really

649
00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:07,480
Speaker 2: really want to hear what you have to say.

650
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:09,600
Speaker 3: If we get to the point now again, if he

651
00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:14,000
Speaker 3: takes on Benavidez or Morel next, yes, I will shut

652
00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:17,680
Speaker 3: my stupid mouth and I will honestly give him his flowers,

653
00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:21,520
Speaker 3: because I think taking that fight now is tough. There

654
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:25,119
Speaker 3: is genuine mystery there is genuine intrigue. I do not

655
00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:27,240
Speaker 3: know how that fight is going to go. He hasn't

656
00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:29,479
Speaker 3: been an underdog in the odds. I looked this up today,

657
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:31,520
Speaker 3: since twenty eighteen or.

658
00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:33,120
Speaker 1: Was that the first glove kin second second.

659
00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:36,399
Speaker 3: Second glovekin, because obviously the first one was highly controversial,

660
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:38,680
Speaker 3: so we would be putting himself.

661
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:41,360
Speaker 2: This is what I mean. I mean risking it for

662
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:42,000
Speaker 2: the biscuit.

663
00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:42,640
Speaker 1: Hell yeah.

664
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:46,200
Speaker 3: But if he doesn't and if he takes the Burlonga

665
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:48,720
Speaker 3: fight next, when Bolonga, by the way, was also there,

666
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:51,760
Speaker 3: I want to say this, shouts to Caleb Plant.

667
00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:53,440
Speaker 1: We'll see that and have you seen the shit?

668
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:58,520
Speaker 2: But wow, Caleb asked for Caleb Plant versus Edgar Belonga.

669
00:28:58,560 --> 00:28:59,640
Speaker 2: I'd be a little more interested in it.

670
00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:02,160
Speaker 3: I still and Kayla Plant smokes him, but you know,

671
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:04,880
Speaker 3: Canelo is just a different level than that altogether. If

672
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:07,040
Speaker 3: he takes the Burlonga fight, I really want to hear

673
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:09,320
Speaker 3: what you have to say at that tell you right now.

674
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:11,600
Speaker 1: I mean, look, I already said on this show, and

675
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:13,680
Speaker 1: I tried to tee it up to Canelo even the

676
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:16,959
Speaker 1: best I could without outright saying it. You're ducking Benevetez

677
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:18,440
Speaker 1: and I'm saying it, and a lot of us are

678
00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:20,960
Speaker 1: saying it. So look, I'm gonna go scorched earth. I'm

679
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 1: going to bring up how it's going to be that

680
00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:24,840
Speaker 1: stain that you can never fully wash off the same

681
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:27,160
Speaker 1: I'm going to I have to come with the same

682
00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:30,760
Speaker 1: energy that we came at Floyd Mayweather with between the

683
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:33,560
Speaker 1: years of like you know, twenty eleven and twenty fifteen.

684
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:35,160
Speaker 1: You have to come with that same energy. Even though

685
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:37,640
Speaker 1: it wasn't fully Floyd's fault and Manny didn't want a

686
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:40,120
Speaker 1: drug test, and Aaron wasn't helping, and Hayman on the

687
00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:41,120
Speaker 1: other side, and there was a lot of.

688
00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:42,640
Speaker 2: People blaming Floyd for a lot of that.

689
00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:44,760
Speaker 1: It's not all his, it's not all of that, but

690
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:47,880
Speaker 1: he did he deserve that, Yes, because Floyd, in my opinion,

691
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:51,400
Speaker 1: was operating in the rare air where Canelo is. Anytime

692
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:53,880
Speaker 1: you can be the pound four pound number one in

693
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:55,800
Speaker 1: the game, where Canelo was just two years ago and

694
00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:58,640
Speaker 1: is still in that discussion today, and the biggest pay

695
00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:00,400
Speaker 1: per view star, the biggest face of the sport, and

696
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:03,960
Speaker 1: you combine that membership certainly has its privileges from a

697
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:07,440
Speaker 1: leverage standpoint in matchmaking, standpoint. But in my opinion, you've

698
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:09,920
Speaker 1: got to serve all. When you are in that role,

699
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:13,480
Speaker 1: there is a responsibility of giving back to the sport. Eventually,

700
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:15,880
Speaker 1: Floyd did that. He ended up fighting everybody. Canelo, for

701
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:18,080
Speaker 1: the for the most part, has fought everybody. You make

702
00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:20,400
Speaker 1: love can wait two years and get older. Strategically, yes,

703
00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:23,920
Speaker 1: But Luke, what would be the justification for Canelo or

704
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:26,320
Speaker 1: his fans? Because I've been seeing on our Instagram when

705
00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:28,719
Speaker 1: Canelo fans jump in our posts and get on us

706
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:30,080
Speaker 1: and be like, man, you guys have no respect. You

707
00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:32,200
Speaker 1: don't know anything about boxing. You don't know what Canelo

708
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:35,040
Speaker 1: has accomplished in his career. Luke, is there any chance

709
00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:36,640
Speaker 1: because you already know my answer of what I'll do

710
00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:38,719
Speaker 1: if he fights Berlinka. I'll go sport stirth on here

711
00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:40,000
Speaker 1: and I hope you join me, and I hope we

712
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:42,640
Speaker 1: dance around and make it rain. Luke, Okay, because he'll

713
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:45,479
Speaker 1: deserve that. But is there a defense at all if

714
00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:49,080
Speaker 1: you're Canelo Team Canelo, a fan of his, that is there?

715
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:51,280
Speaker 1: Do you get to draw a line of what you

716
00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:53,880
Speaker 1: accomplished up to a certain point and say I'm done,

717
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:56,440
Speaker 1: I'm done giving you exactly what you want. Can it

718
00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:58,640
Speaker 1: be about me? Now? Well, it can't be. When you're

719
00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:00,680
Speaker 1: thirty three on top of the for pound and you

720
00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:02,760
Speaker 1: have all four titles in that division. It can't be right.

721
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:04,120
Speaker 1: But is there any.

722
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:06,160
Speaker 2: Justification year for taking the verlonga fight fort.

723
00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 1: Canelo to just be like, I don't need Benavidez guys,

724
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:10,320
Speaker 1: and I don't want him. Is there any way that

725
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:12,360
Speaker 1: he gets unscathed historically from.

726
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:14,200
Speaker 2: That, uh? Dropping the titles.

727
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:16,280
Speaker 3: I don't think it would be nearly as bad if

728
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 3: he vacated and just said I just don't want I'm

729
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:19,040
Speaker 3: not These.

730
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:20,880
Speaker 2: Are for people who want to pursue this track. I'm

731
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:23,800
Speaker 2: on a different track now. His will be thirty four

732
00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:26,920
Speaker 2: in July. Then I think there would still be some

733
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:27,560
Speaker 2: stain with that.

734
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:29,560
Speaker 3: We should be clear because you would be saying clearly,

735
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:32,080
Speaker 3: I don't want tough fights, but you wouldn't be mucking

736
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:34,160
Speaker 3: up the system. You wouldn't be causing some of the

737
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:38,960
Speaker 3: creative I should say, some of the infrastructure problems, the architecture,

738
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:41,560
Speaker 3: I should say the architecture problems of the belt system.

739
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:45,720
Speaker 3: It wouldn't be as bad, I think, but he's going

740
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:48,120
Speaker 3: to have to make a declaration one way or the other.

741
00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:50,240
Speaker 3: He is going to have to put his cards on

742
00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:53,640
Speaker 3: the table one way or the other. There can simply

743
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:59,160
Speaker 3: be no acceptable choice other than Benavetez or Morale. Dude,

744
00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:01,880
Speaker 3: I have no interr and seeing him fight Jamal Charlow,

745
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:04,720
Speaker 3: I have no interest. I mean Tarlo, I would like

746
00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:07,880
Speaker 3: you know, I'd catch the highlights, dude, the burlonga fight.

747
00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 3: I mean, I have a negative energy, no interest.

748
00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:16,960
Speaker 1: Earned this fight. Ye, he earned, went in there, knocked

749
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:17,640
Speaker 1: out John Ryder.

750
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 3: Yes, Mungia again. I give him a lot of credit.

751
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:22,680
Speaker 3: I thought he took it to Canelo the best he could.

752
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:25,400
Speaker 3: Did he do the best that he could? Yes, he did,

753
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:31,600
Speaker 3: and to an extent overperformed defensively. But the grace period

754
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:34,200
Speaker 3: is over. Rent is due. It's the fifth of the month.

755
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:36,240
Speaker 1: We're gonna transition to UFC three on one on one second,

756
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:38,400
Speaker 1: but final question you mentioned going all in, putting your

757
00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:40,840
Speaker 1: your your chips in front of you, Luke okay, on

758
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:43,600
Speaker 1: that long chick chick, chick, pay that the man his

759
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:46,520
Speaker 1: mond like Ellie guitar blood. I want you to do

760
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:49,360
Speaker 1: the same thing right now, let's do it under the

761
00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:52,760
Speaker 1: guise of odds. What should be, in your opinion, the

762
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:56,160
Speaker 1: betting odds. If Canelo and Benavitez were fighting this September,

763
00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:58,920
Speaker 1: you don't even need a sphere. Put it anywhere in luck.

764
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:01,240
Speaker 1: Put it actually, you know what. Put it in an allegianate

765
00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:02,720
Speaker 1: stadium in Las Vegas.

766
00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:03,480
Speaker 2: You could do first.

767
00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:06,360
Speaker 1: You could combat sports event. I mean you will see,

768
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:09,600
Speaker 1: it'll be a thing. Dude. If Mongia versus Canelo was

769
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:11,880
Speaker 1: a frickin' thing in Vegas this weekend and it was,

770
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:14,800
Speaker 1: this will be. This is bigger than fury Usic. Not

771
00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:17,600
Speaker 1: a historically big, but certainly from fan.

772
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:18,640
Speaker 2: Interest and circumstance.

773
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:21,480
Speaker 1: Yes, what should be the betting odds based on the

774
00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:22,440
Speaker 1: performance Saturday night?

775
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:23,840
Speaker 2: With morel I'm not too sure to have to think

776
00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:24,600
Speaker 2: about it a little bit more.

777
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:26,760
Speaker 3: But if it was David Benavetez, I'd say him minus

778
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:28,400
Speaker 3: two fifty Canilo plus two hundred.

779
00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:32,200
Speaker 1: WHOA yeah, So you are still firmly in the there's

780
00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:34,719
Speaker 1: there's smoking the championship rounds in that fight that Canelo

781
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:37,280
Speaker 1: may may not want. Dude, you also think he can't

782
00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:39,440
Speaker 1: swim in there. You also think he can get through that.

783
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:42,600
Speaker 3: Smoked I'm saying he would have to climb a Hill.

784
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:48,160
Speaker 3: The reality is going into the Mungia fight, I only

785
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:51,600
Speaker 3: believed Mungia could win if I thought Canel, or if

786
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:53,200
Speaker 3: Canelo proved to be washed.

787
00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:54,240
Speaker 2: He is not washed.

788
00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:56,440
Speaker 3: He may be on the back at half of the mountain,

789
00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:58,280
Speaker 3: so to speak, but he's not I think. I think

790
00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:00,960
Speaker 3: that's the thing we got from Saturday. Is this guy washed.

791
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:03,200
Speaker 1: No no, no, no, no, no, no no, not washed.

792
00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:06,160
Speaker 3: Absolutely, And I do think he can beat David Benavidez.

793
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:07,720
Speaker 3: I want to be clear about that. I might favor

794
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:11,359
Speaker 3: Benavidez to win, but like heart of hearts do, I

795
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:14,160
Speaker 3: absolutely think Canelo can win, much more so than I

796
00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:16,640
Speaker 3: ever thought Mugia could beat Canelo. But this is what

797
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:19,920
Speaker 3: I'm talking about. Yeah, this is what is missing right now.

798
00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:22,520
Speaker 3: And that would be acceptable if like Canelo was taking

799
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:24,680
Speaker 3: on the very best guys and making them look like Mungia.

800
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:28,040
Speaker 3: But when you're omitting the two best ones, it's like, guys,

801
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:29,759
Speaker 3: I've had enough of this.

802
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:31,160
Speaker 2: Okay, I've had enough of this experience.

803
00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:33,600
Speaker 1: Forget the two hundred million. If they can get the guarantee,

804
00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:36,640
Speaker 1: whether it's Turkey, Ela Chic or al Hamer or whoever, yeah,

805
00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:38,719
Speaker 1: they can get it to seventy five million. Is that

806
00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:41,440
Speaker 1: acceptable and should that be enough for Canelo to say yes?

807
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:43,640
Speaker 3: It should be more than acceptable for Canelo to say yes.

808
00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:44,960
Speaker 3: I honestly and I want to. I want to be

809
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:47,560
Speaker 3: fair to him a shit ton of money. I want

810
00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:49,000
Speaker 3: to be as fair to him as I possibly can.

811
00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 3: I don't know what Canelo is gonna do. My hunch

812
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 3: is that he's gonna fight Berlonga, but I hope to

813
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:55,120
Speaker 3: be wrong, I.

814
00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:56,040
Speaker 2: Really really do.

815
00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:59,880
Speaker 3: I would do if they announced motherfucking Canilo versus d

816
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:04,520
Speaker 3: David Benavitez for September Allegiant Stadium or any other place,

817
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:07,080
Speaker 3: I would dance the jig.

818
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:11,960
Speaker 2: I would be so thrillous. I mean, we got limits

819
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:14,280
Speaker 2: on this, but point being as BC, would.

820
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:16,040
Speaker 3: You not seriously if you got if you got a

821
00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:20,600
Speaker 3: press release Candelo to fight David Benavidez September whatever it is, fifteenth,

822
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:23,759
Speaker 3: whatever the Saturday it falls on, this would be.

823
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:25,320
Speaker 2: This would be I would.

824
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:27,840
Speaker 1: Drive these these these walls in here. Look, there's no

825
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:30,319
Speaker 1: question that anyway. Here's my biggest fear, and this is

826
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:33,560
Speaker 1: really our final point. Canelo made triple G wait almost

827
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:35,760
Speaker 1: two full years, and that got him older. We've argued

828
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:38,120
Speaker 1: that making Benavidez. Wait is not a good idea because

829
00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 1: Canelo's getting older and Benevitez is just getting better.

830
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:41,800
Speaker 2: But he's getting bigger.

831
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:44,800
Speaker 1: But I don't want is that Canela knows he's getting bigger,

832
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:47,200
Speaker 1: and Canelo knows he's moving up to one to seventy five.

833
00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:49,520
Speaker 1: So in Canelo's mind, is it fight for longa to

834
00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:53,680
Speaker 1: close the year, get everybody angry. But then I plan

835
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:56,799
Speaker 1: on fighting him in the spring. And he's hoping that

836
00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:59,400
Speaker 1: by allowing Benavitez this time to get acclimated to one

837
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 1: seventy five, that when they do fight at one sixty

838
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:05,120
Speaker 1: eight for all the millions, that Benevidez won't be able

839
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:08,200
Speaker 1: to turn down Luke because it's generational, life changing money,

840
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:10,919
Speaker 1: you know, the defining fight of his career. That maybe

841
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:13,280
Speaker 1: he depletes himself to cut down to make that sixty

842
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:15,759
Speaker 1: eight one more time and then we get a compromise version.

843
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:17,680
Speaker 1: I don't want Canelo to play the leverage game to

844
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:20,200
Speaker 1: eventually give us what we want. Hey still got me

845
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:21,960
Speaker 1: with them or may with a pac yell, But they

846
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:23,560
Speaker 1: were thirty eight and thirty six when we got it.

847
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:25,879
Speaker 1: That's the truth. That's the truth. Okay, I hope that

848
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:27,120
Speaker 1: that's not the truth in this case.

849
00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:29,160
Speaker 2: I hope it's not. He'll be thirty four in July.

850
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:29,960
Speaker 2: Clock is sticking.

851
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:32,400
Speaker 1: You better do it soon. There it is on the

852
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:35,000
Speaker 1: boxing front from the weekend topic number three, though we

853
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:36,319
Speaker 1: transition a mixed marshal art.

854
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:37,759
Speaker 2: Were usually supposed to bounce to these, but I'll let

855
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:38,440
Speaker 2: it slide today.

856
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:41,360
Speaker 1: Yeah. Look, I'm I'm not even in the right headspace

857
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:44,400
Speaker 1: or or did you comb your hair this morning? I

858
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:46,240
Speaker 1: didn't really do much with the hair. I did again,

859
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:49,160
Speaker 1: I'm well showered to close, not so much. You know,

860
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:51,239
Speaker 1: I'm trying to become a minimalm millist packer. But the

861
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:51,680
Speaker 1: problem is.

862
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:54,080
Speaker 2: When you have a millinist packer, a millinist packer, you're

863
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:55,759
Speaker 2: trying to become a villainist language us.

864
00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:58,000
Speaker 1: Of Curtis Millinder. The problem is, you know, when you

865
00:36:58,120 --> 00:36:59,959
Speaker 1: have to stay another night, you run out of clean

866
00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:02,440
Speaker 1: back to the put the camera on the Here we go.

867
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:04,719
Speaker 1: UFC three to ZHO one pay per view was Saturday

868
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:08,080
Speaker 1: from Keoh dejan Eio, Brazil, and what we saw in

869
00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:11,040
Speaker 1: the main and comines was really a triumphant night for

870
00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:14,000
Speaker 1: the warrior spirit of what makes Brazilian fighters, so great,

871
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 1: let's start in that main event, which turned out to

872
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 1: be a close one here as Alexandre Pantosia made the

873
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:22,040
Speaker 1: second defense of his Flyway championship, going the five round

874
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:26,000
Speaker 1: distance with upstart Steve Verseg was making just his fourth

875
00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:29,359
Speaker 1: appearance in eleven months since debuting in the UFC Luke.

876
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:33,160
Speaker 1: They would go five rounds a unanimous decision in the

877
00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:37,200
Speaker 1: favor of Pantosia. Some say there's a little bit of

878
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:39,920
Speaker 1: a scoring snaffoo, or at least a disputed outcome, that

879
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:41,719
Speaker 1: it could have gone either way. But I think the

880
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:44,960
Speaker 1: universal thing here is that Steve Verseeg may have dropped

881
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 1: the ball in round five, and you saw him himself

882
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:51,520
Speaker 1: dejected during the score reading after the fight, admitting in

883
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:54,880
Speaker 1: the interview that he blew it. Luke Thomas, did Steve

884
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:57,520
Speaker 1: Verseg blow it late in round five with the one

885
00:37:57,640 --> 00:37:59,319
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty five pound championship at stake?

886
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:02,799
Speaker 3: Pains me to say this. It pains me to say this,

887
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:05,640
Speaker 3: this one. It really does pain me to say he did.

888
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 2: He blew it. He absolutely made a critical error in judgment, like.

889
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:15,040
Speaker 1: Gastilin going for the takedown against at Asnia at late

890
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 1: in round four when having him hurt at two thirty sevens.

891
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:19,520
Speaker 3: That's a different kind of bad decision, but also a

892
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:21,759
Speaker 3: bad decision. I mean because there you're like, well, is

893
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:24,759
Speaker 3: he was hurt and he's also not a grappler. I

894
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:27,719
Speaker 3: can sort of see why you would go for a takedown,

895
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:29,919
Speaker 3: but again it wasn't the right call and it blew

896
00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 3: up in his face to a degree.

897
00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:31,759
Speaker 2: This one.

898
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:34,520
Speaker 3: It's like, I understand what Ersa was trying to do. Right,

899
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:37,759
Speaker 3: so you might be up in the fifth it's kind

900
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:39,880
Speaker 3: of going your way. Maybe it's fifty to fifty, but no,

901
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:42,640
Speaker 3: he was not fighting out of a deficit. In the

902
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:46,120
Speaker 3: fifth round. You have about two minutes to ninety seconds left. Hey,

903
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:48,120
Speaker 3: if you can get a takedown, a little bit of

904
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:51,919
Speaker 3: ground and pound and enough control time, you can win

905
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:54,000
Speaker 3: this one. You can ride this one out to the end,

906
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:56,960
Speaker 3: and you can get the decision. I understand the logic.

907
00:38:57,440 --> 00:38:58,880
Speaker 3: But at the same time, he had gone for a

908
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:01,600
Speaker 3: takedown either earlier in that round round four, and that

909
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:03,640
Speaker 3: also blew up in his face where he got reversed.

910
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:07,640
Speaker 3: That was the lesson to take not to do it again,

911
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:11,920
Speaker 3: and he did it again, and he got immediately reversed.

912
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:13,000
Speaker 2: He got thrown to his hands.

913
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:15,759
Speaker 3: When a guy who is a much better scrambler and

914
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 3: a much quicker guy, I think generally a Pindoja is

915
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:19,799
Speaker 3: a little bit quicker. He certainly fights with a lot

916
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:23,480
Speaker 3: of like intense quick purpose, throws him by, forces him

917
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:25,359
Speaker 3: to his hands, and then ultimately he's able to get

918
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:28,239
Speaker 3: him to the ground and then ultimately control him for

919
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:30,799
Speaker 3: either the rest of that round or the good chunk

920
00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:35,239
Speaker 3: of it, and gave the other guy the fight. And

921
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:37,680
Speaker 3: I understand the point of I wanted to fight on

922
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:39,840
Speaker 3: my terms, but you have to understand what my terms

923
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:43,400
Speaker 3: means to me watching this fight. And I don't know

924
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:44,839
Speaker 3: how his coaches feel, I don't know how you feel.

925
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:47,400
Speaker 3: Love to get your perspective in just a second. To me,

926
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:49,960
Speaker 3: you can actually go back. And I was watching it

927
00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:52,640
Speaker 3: on a stream. You could see me say it. I'm

928
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:57,479
Speaker 3: yelling at the screen, pump your jab, Pump the fucking jab.

929
00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:01,880
Speaker 3: Because the jab was not perfect, but working, it was working.

930
00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:04,960
Speaker 3: Put something behind that maintain distance, that kind of a thing.

931
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:08,040
Speaker 3: And instead he closes it, goes with the takedown, gets

932
00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:11,759
Speaker 3: almost immediately reversed, and everything goes the other way. This

933
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:14,640
Speaker 3: is what I don't actually think BC. Here's what I'm

934
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:18,880
Speaker 3: gonna say. I don't think it all. Steve Ersag is

935
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:22,600
Speaker 3: way too good and way too talented to say he

936
00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:25,719
Speaker 3: has poor fight IQ. This was an example of bad

937
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:28,719
Speaker 3: judgment in that moment. But the difference to me BC,

938
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:32,759
Speaker 3: this was a guy who showed his octagon inexperience.

939
00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:34,040
Speaker 2: This is a guy.

940
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:36,880
Speaker 3: Remember he's been in three UFC fights before this, two

941
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:40,919
Speaker 3: one numbered events, prelims, early prelims, one main card fight

942
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:43,719
Speaker 3: prior to this at the Apex. This guy flew from

943
00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:45,640
Speaker 3: Australia to the other side of the world, took on

944
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:48,160
Speaker 3: a hostile crowd and a very tough opponent, and was

945
00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:52,840
Speaker 3: cerebral and for twenty three minutes fought his but the

946
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:54,480
Speaker 3: whole time he fought his ass off, but made for

947
00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:57,160
Speaker 3: the most part, pretty good decisions, and then fucked it

948
00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:58,040
Speaker 3: all up at the end.

949
00:40:58,480 --> 00:40:59,759
Speaker 2: I think he didn't know.

950
00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:03,360
Speaker 3: How to win sure a five round fight in this way,

951
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 3: but God bless him, he tried.

952
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:07,560
Speaker 1: There's always going to be said. I said something similar

953
00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:10,000
Speaker 1: to this after Devin Haney lost the Ryean Garcia fight. Yeah,

954
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:11,560
Speaker 1: it was a monster upset. I don't think it would

955
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:14,000
Speaker 1: happen again, but I think there's certain lessons that can

956
00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 1: only be learned inside the ring or the cage. Step

957
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:19,440
Speaker 1: A Miocic in the first fight against JDS, right, he

958
00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:21,840
Speaker 1: learned he needed to up his cardio. But we learned

959
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:23,479
Speaker 1: in that fight, which I think we kind of learned

960
00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:26,520
Speaker 1: in this one that he's coming and JDS was able

961
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 1: to just kind of guard the barrier enough to get

962
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:30,920
Speaker 1: the victory. I think in some ways Pantosia guarded the

963
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:33,720
Speaker 1: barrier enough to get a victory even though Ersteg looked

964
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:35,879
Speaker 1: like he had the path to victory and overall looked

965
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:38,400
Speaker 1: to be the better performance. But did this absolutely affect

966
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:42,000
Speaker 1: the scoreboards scorecards? It did, right, he wins, Pantosia wins

967
00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:44,120
Speaker 1: three to two on two of the scorecards, four to

968
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:46,359
Speaker 1: one on the other. If you switch that fifth round

969
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:49,360
Speaker 1: based on that, he could be split decision or majority

970
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:53,000
Speaker 1: decision for uh splitter majority it.

971
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:55,160
Speaker 3: Would be majority because one still when one would have

972
00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:57,719
Speaker 3: had it three to two for Pantosia and so it

973
00:41:57,719 --> 00:41:58,360
Speaker 3: would have been.

974
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:00,400
Speaker 2: Three to two or sec three two. Oh no, so

975
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:02,160
Speaker 2: it would have been split. It would have been split.

976
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:05,760
Speaker 1: Excuse me, yes, one mistake, I mean, you know, different

977
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:08,640
Speaker 1: than Valentina spinny shit causing grosses go to get the

978
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:10,759
Speaker 1: submission and you're like, wow, one mistake. We've seen one

979
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:13,600
Speaker 1: mistake there, but the timing of the mistake was bad.

980
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:15,920
Speaker 1: But you got to learn those lessons the hard way,

981
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:18,360
Speaker 1: no matter how good you are, no matter how experience

982
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:20,160
Speaker 1: do you appear to be. For a young age, and

983
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:22,640
Speaker 1: this was their seg young in the standpoint of only

984
00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:24,880
Speaker 1: his fourth UFC fight less than a year in the company,

985
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:27,720
Speaker 1: sometimes you got to fumble it on the biggest stage

986
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:29,640
Speaker 1: and it's you know, it's the old NBA playoff added

987
00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:31,440
Speaker 1: you got to learn how to lose before you can win.

988
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:33,759
Speaker 3: And the problem is, like, dude, just think about it.

989
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:37,560
Speaker 3: How many UFC fighters statistically ever compete for a title?

990
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:39,920
Speaker 3: Not many, like you know whatever, It is one percent

991
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:43,920
Speaker 3: probably or less. Now add in, how many ever compete

992
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:46,120
Speaker 3: for a title after losing a title fight in their

993
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:50,480
Speaker 3: first opportunity. That number of plummets again, it is so low.

994
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:52,160
Speaker 3: It is this This is I'm not saying it's the

995
00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:54,359
Speaker 3: only chance. That's probably not true at twenty eight years old,

996
00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:58,120
Speaker 3: but this was a good chance and you just don't know.

997
00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:00,279
Speaker 3: I will say this though, I will say that because

998
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:01,759
Speaker 3: I think you picked him and I picked him to

999
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:04,480
Speaker 3: win on Friday Show. He didn't get it done. So

1000
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:07,000
Speaker 3: in that sense, we were wrong. What I will say

1001
00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:09,319
Speaker 3: is true, and I think you'll agree with this. He

1002
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:14,960
Speaker 3: was very much a worthy adversary. When we said he

1003
00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:19,360
Speaker 3: is going to give Pantojia problems. Yes he did. Oh yeah, no.

1004
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:20,000
Speaker 2: Doubt about it.

1005
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:23,960
Speaker 3: He is a top class flightweight, was this close to

1006
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:25,200
Speaker 3: winning the flightweight title.

1007
00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:27,080
Speaker 2: I am excited to see what else he can do.

1008
00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 1: I always watch the way they lose, how they respond.

1009
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:31,640
Speaker 1: That's why I always give Connor McGregor respect. One of

1010
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:33,720
Speaker 1: the better losers in big moments. Doesn't know he's anymore.

1011
00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:35,799
Speaker 1: Make the adjustments. But like remember after one ninety six

1012
00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:37,759
Speaker 1: when he got tapped out, he was like, calm in

1013
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:39,319
Speaker 1: the post, five guys, I got it. I figured it out.

1014
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:41,279
Speaker 1: I know what needs to be changed. Like that's how

1015
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:45,680
Speaker 1: earth that's one ninety six? He sorry, Long Island. One

1016
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:48,560
Speaker 1: ninety six was Connor tapping out to uh he beat

1017
00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:53,600
Speaker 1: Aldo at one ninety four, right, Okay, So what I'm

1018
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:57,600
Speaker 1: saying here, Luke, is that, uh you know, Steve said,

1019
00:43:57,719 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 1: showed me how he how he lost, because his response

1020
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:02,560
Speaker 1: was like the second score that was being wrong he read.

1021
00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:04,200
Speaker 1: He was just like, oh shit, I know, I know,

1022
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:06,160
Speaker 1: I know what happened. I did it, So I actually

1023
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:08,759
Speaker 1: think he'll be fine. You could argue, I mean, could

1024
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:10,480
Speaker 1: you argue is there an argument for him on the

1025
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:12,920
Speaker 1: scorecards or no? Because of that, I where did you

1026
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:13,880
Speaker 1: How did you end up scoring it?

1027
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:16,480
Speaker 3: Was it like round one Pantoja, round two or SEG

1028
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:19,400
Speaker 3: round three, Pantoja round four or SEG round five Pantoja?

1029
00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:21,960
Speaker 1: Okay, I think two and three. I've seen switched a lot,

1030
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:23,359
Speaker 1: and I think you could switch either one.

1031
00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:25,960
Speaker 3: I would have to rewatch it again to see that's

1032
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:27,840
Speaker 3: how I that's how I scored it in really.

1033
00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:30,680
Speaker 1: Definitely round four for ers, definitely round five for Pantojia,

1034
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:33,480
Speaker 1: Definitely round one for Pantosia. So I don't even really

1035
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:36,480
Speaker 1: think there is an argument, because I think it would.

1036
00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:38,120
Speaker 2: Have to be a very generous argument.

1037
00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:39,960
Speaker 1: But even though the four to one sounds extreme or

1038
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:41,920
Speaker 1: I think chill Soning on ESPN had at five zero

1039
00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:45,600
Speaker 1: for no for Pantoja, oh, I think there the rounds

1040
00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:48,320
Speaker 1: are close enough for the most part where you could.

1041
00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:49,360
Speaker 2: Jail's got some wild asses.

1042
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:51,040
Speaker 1: But I don't even think four to one would be illegal,

1043
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:52,879
Speaker 1: is what I'm saying. What I'm saying is I had

1044
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:55,160
Speaker 1: it too to entering the fifth. So ultimately my scorecard

1045
00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:58,080
Speaker 1: erseg broke his own heart, but it was close a great.

1046
00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:00,120
Speaker 3: So there's there's a question of lasting on this. The

1047
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:02,600
Speaker 3: question is, and this is the Agel question we get

1048
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:07,000
Speaker 3: to every single time, what is the value of grappling

1049
00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:11,480
Speaker 3: without close submission attempts or a ton of damage. Now

1050
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:13,200
Speaker 3: there were round where he got the takedown and was

1051
00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:14,840
Speaker 3: pounding on our segon. I want to be clear about that.

1052
00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:17,160
Speaker 3: It's not like altogether, but as the fight wore on

1053
00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:19,279
Speaker 3: a little bit, there was less and less ground in

1054
00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:23,400
Speaker 3: pounds and it was just control. Are say predominantly control,

1055
00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:25,040
Speaker 3: And so there is a question about how much that

1056
00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:26,920
Speaker 3: is valued. But I think I'm just gonna say it.

1057
00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:30,200
Speaker 3: Even with that, I still think Pantoja is the rightful winner.

1058
00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:31,600
Speaker 3: I did see some people complaining.

1059
00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:33,319
Speaker 1: About that, all right. Pantoja, at thirty four now has

1060
00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:37,200
Speaker 1: two title defenses. He's actually providing stability in a division

1061
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:39,959
Speaker 1: that saw Dimitrius Johnson own it for a decade, Henry

1062
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:42,240
Speaker 1: Sai Hudo keep it alive, and then the hot Potato

1063
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:45,080
Speaker 1: and the four great fights between Moreno and Figaredo. Now

1064
00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:47,239
Speaker 1: we've got a title reign, We've got a champion. But like, look,

1065
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:50,720
Speaker 1: did he win? Did he outfight an outduel or seg

1066
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:54,280
Speaker 1: on Saturday? Or was he just game year in key moments?

1067
00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:56,719
Speaker 1: I mean fought like a veteran. The takedowns were key.

1068
00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:59,840
Speaker 1: But to the debate you just had with yourself about

1069
00:45:59,840 --> 00:46:01,719
Speaker 1: how how effective is grappling when you're not adding the

1070
00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:03,520
Speaker 1: ground and pound to it, I still felt like this

1071
00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:08,080
Speaker 1: was an aging veteran performance from Pantojia to know how

1072
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:09,799
Speaker 1: to win a close fight, to know exactly what to

1073
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:12,279
Speaker 1: do in those key moments to edge it out. Do

1074
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:14,359
Speaker 1: you think that like he's peaking heading into the next

1075
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:16,680
Speaker 1: title defense or is it still a little bit shaky

1076
00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:18,560
Speaker 1: on top? Like anyone can win this title at any point.

1077
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:21,920
Speaker 3: I still think anyone can win it. I mean again,

1078
00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:24,960
Speaker 3: he might have lost this one but for his opponents

1079
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:29,839
Speaker 3: in experience and then poor decision making crunch line at

1080
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:30,800
Speaker 3: the finish line quickly.

1081
00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:32,319
Speaker 2: So there's that.

1082
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:34,960
Speaker 3: But I will say this in defensive Pantojia, he's obviously

1083
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:39,840
Speaker 3: a very skilled champion. I can't think of many fighters

1084
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:42,720
Speaker 3: in any weight class. You could probably pick a couple

1085
00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:46,120
Speaker 3: maybe Morob or something like that, but who fight with

1086
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:53,479
Speaker 3: such dedicated intensity for position, dedicated physicality. I'm gonna make

1087
00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:57,880
Speaker 3: this rough every single time. And then combines that with

1088
00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:01,680
Speaker 3: genuinely good grappling skill and by the way, a decent

1089
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:03,640
Speaker 3: chin as well. He takes big shots and still kind

1090
00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:06,680
Speaker 3: of finds ways to hang on and bleeds and doesn't

1091
00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:09,120
Speaker 3: lose composure. I was just thinking about this, like whole

1092
00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:12,279
Speaker 3: fire and underhook can get head inside position, and then

1093
00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:14,480
Speaker 3: he's roughing people up. So now Erseg is having to

1094
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:16,839
Speaker 3: fight that off before he can get any offense going

1095
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:19,399
Speaker 3: on the takedown, he's immediately looking for passing. Like he

1096
00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:25,359
Speaker 3: just brings a certain level of intensity where he makes everybody,

1097
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:28,239
Speaker 3: for at least short periods but sometimes long periods, fight

1098
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:31,080
Speaker 3: on his terms. You're gonna fight out of the deficit

1099
00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:33,680
Speaker 3: that I put you in, and maybe a positional grappling battle,

1100
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:36,160
Speaker 3: but I'm gonna wear your ass.

1101
00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:39,480
Speaker 1: Outs going passion. He fights with almost a rabidness, you

1102
00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:42,080
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like Olver fought Poitier with that

1103
00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:44,600
Speaker 1: same sort of rabid energy of like I'm just gonna

1104
00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:46,000
Speaker 1: scratch my way to winning.

1105
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:47,840
Speaker 3: This fight people talk about like fighting like the rent

1106
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:50,160
Speaker 3: is due. Dude, he fights like the rent is due.

1107
00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:51,960
Speaker 1: But look, that's a similar trait in all of our

1108
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:54,359
Speaker 1: aging heroes that come from Brazil. The RDA is right

1109
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:57,680
Speaker 1: like guys like that, it's just h Gilbert Burns. Guys

1110
00:47:57,719 --> 00:47:58,480
Speaker 1: like that are just like I.

1111
00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:00,399
Speaker 2: Would say, Pantoja is a level above both.

1112
00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:02,680
Speaker 1: Definitely, this is what's great about the And we're going

1113
00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:04,759
Speaker 1: to transition this perfectly into talking about Jose Aldo in

1114
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 1: the co main event. But this is what is so

1115
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:08,840
Speaker 1: great about the history of Brazilian fighters. Do you have

1116
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:12,920
Speaker 1: the superhero all time greats like Anderson Silva, Jose Aldo,

1117
00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 1: no Gera, for sure, but that even that next level

1118
00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:18,560
Speaker 1: down of legends, you know, killers like Vanderley, like you

1119
00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:21,799
Speaker 1: can go across the board, dude, there's like they not

1120
00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:24,120
Speaker 1: only are killers, they not only are super elite. But

1121
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:27,360
Speaker 1: the longevity in so many of these guys' careers is insane.

1122
00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:28,040
Speaker 2: It is insane.

1123
00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:30,040
Speaker 1: Shogun Huo, who just got announced into the Hall of Fame,

1124
00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:32,919
Speaker 1: the ability to linger like all those trying to do now,

1125
00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:36,160
Speaker 1: to see Pantoja at thirty four, to see Figaredo at

1126
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:38,040
Speaker 1: thirty four when he came back and won the title

1127
00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:41,080
Speaker 1: again from Moreno, Like, dude, there's something in the blood

1128
00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:44,240
Speaker 1: in the mindset there that it's like Brazilians can produce

1129
00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:47,400
Speaker 1: champions in all time greats, but they can reinvent themselves

1130
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:50,520
Speaker 1: and sustain Luke in almost ways we haven't been able

1131
00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:53,160
Speaker 1: to see from anyone else historically, I mean, just dogs.

1132
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:55,680
Speaker 3: And the interesting part about Pantoja is he's not the

1133
00:48:56,040 --> 00:48:58,200
Speaker 3: pick who you want John Jones to Poria Habib, these

1134
00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:00,680
Speaker 3: guys who go undefeated en route to the top, right

1135
00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:02,319
Speaker 3: from the moment they start to the moment they get there,

1136
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:05,239
Speaker 3: they just blow through everybody. That's not Pantoja's story. He

1137
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:07,719
Speaker 3: had ups, he had some downs, and this is kind

1138
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:10,600
Speaker 3: of putting it all together in the last part of

1139
00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:14,560
Speaker 3: his prime. And so dude, some of these battles are

1140
00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:17,520
Speaker 3: tooth and nail. Some of these battles are you know,

1141
00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:20,279
Speaker 3: inch by inch, and he's barely winning them. But the

1142
00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:22,040
Speaker 3: difference to me is BC and I think you see

1143
00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:25,040
Speaker 3: this is Pantoja just skilled, no doubt about it. But

1144
00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:29,360
Speaker 3: what's winning these is the is the burning desire all

1145
00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:32,759
Speaker 3: the time, because honestly, he's either as skilled in certain

1146
00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:34,600
Speaker 3: cases obviously on the ground, he's better than a lot

1147
00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:36,279
Speaker 3: of his backpacking is great, but there's a lot of

1148
00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:39,040
Speaker 3: places where he is overmatched. But he makes up for

1149
00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:42,560
Speaker 3: that by just getting in your fucking face and making

1150
00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:45,400
Speaker 3: you fight on his terms. And that's why he's just

1151
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:48,799
Speaker 3: barely eking it out sometimes, but he's consistently doing that.

1152
00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:50,560
Speaker 2: He's got he's got a formula.

1153
00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:53,600
Speaker 1: You haven't felt anything burning in your loins to that level, Luke,

1154
00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:56,640
Speaker 1: since those Fradhause STV, since I had jockey itch in

1155
00:49:56,719 --> 00:49:59,560
Speaker 1: high school. Go, let's go to that Comin event. Speaking

1156
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:02,759
Speaker 1: of Brazili legends, Jose Aldo, at age thirty seven, goes

1157
00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:05,080
Speaker 1: back from retirement in which he was inducted to the

1158
00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:07,759
Speaker 1: UFC Hall of Fame and chooses to close out his

1159
00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:10,880
Speaker 1: current UFC contract on his own terms. He admits that

1160
00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:13,799
Speaker 1: he turned down the UFC's extension offer. What did he

1161
00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:15,720
Speaker 1: do when the Comin event went in there against Jonathan

1162
00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:18,759
Speaker 1: Martinez riding a six fight win streak and dropped three

1163
00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:22,200
Speaker 1: thirty twenty sevens over the course of the fight, relying

1164
00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:26,360
Speaker 1: on his boxing looking to be into incredible shape, great Cardio.

1165
00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:28,920
Speaker 1: The full transformation that we've seen in recent years of

1166
00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:33,120
Speaker 1: Aldough from featherweight king to now still dangerous veteran vantamweight

1167
00:50:33,600 --> 00:50:36,640
Speaker 1: was on full patrol here and you have the full

1168
00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:40,200
Speaker 1: experience Luke at thirty seven, who create is josee Aldo

1169
00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:42,680
Speaker 1: still after this performance?

1170
00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:48,600
Speaker 3: Dark Horse title contender? Dark Horse title contender? He announced

1171
00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:52,239
Speaker 3: his retirement in twenty twenty two. He has been off

1172
00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:57,719
Speaker 3: for some time, thirty seven years of age at bantamweight,

1173
00:50:58,200 --> 00:51:01,080
Speaker 3: one of the toughest divisions. Amazing taking on a guy

1174
00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:04,600
Speaker 3: who was a surging contender still ranked outside the top ten,

1175
00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:06,320
Speaker 3: which I do think matters.

1176
00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:08,200
Speaker 1: But like Jose could have got hurt bad in this

1177
00:51:08,239 --> 00:51:09,680
Speaker 1: fight if he wasn't as dialed in it.

1178
00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:10,239
Speaker 2: This that's right.

1179
00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:13,719
Speaker 3: And I was watching this and I was saying to myself, okay, BC,

1180
00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:15,839
Speaker 3: here we go say say yes or no.

1181
00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:20,640
Speaker 2: Did his reaction time look good? Yes?

1182
00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:25,000
Speaker 3: Did his uh willingness to take a punch and then

1183
00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:26,200
Speaker 3: throw back look good?

1184
00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:26,840
Speaker 1: Yes?

1185
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:28,399
Speaker 2: Did his quickness look good?

1186
00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:30,000
Speaker 1: He looked like he went to the fountain of youth?

1187
00:51:30,080 --> 00:51:30,399
Speaker 1: Is this.

1188
00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:32,799
Speaker 2: It could be?

1189
00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:34,800
Speaker 3: It could be I'm not you know me about antidoping

1190
00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:36,160
Speaker 3: and people don't want to have that conversation.

1191
00:51:36,239 --> 00:51:37,720
Speaker 2: But we have no we have no idea.

1192
00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:39,239
Speaker 1: He looked awesome.

1193
00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:40,960
Speaker 2: And the point I'm trying to make is did his

1194
00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:45,040
Speaker 2: decision making look good? Yes? So did he look prime

1195
00:51:45,239 --> 00:51:47,320
Speaker 2: Jose Aldo? No?

1196
00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:52,160
Speaker 3: No, But was there a drop off? Not really, not

1197
00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:54,719
Speaker 3: much of one from the last time we saw him.

1198
00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:56,879
Speaker 3: And I'm prem rob because that fight was an alt dude,

1199
00:51:56,920 --> 00:51:59,960
Speaker 3: and he just got held against the wall. Jose Aldo

1200
00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:03,880
Speaker 3: looks just as good as the day he left the UFC,

1201
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:07,000
Speaker 3: maybe even a little bit better. Jonathan Martinez THO, this

1202
00:52:07,040 --> 00:52:08,960
Speaker 3: one we did kind of expect a little bit. I

1203
00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:12,239
Speaker 3: even said, what is Martinez's calling card? The kicking game

1204
00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:15,320
Speaker 3: and particularly the late kicking game. But Josie Aldo fearsome

1205
00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:18,120
Speaker 3: leg kicker, underrated defense and.

1206
00:52:18,120 --> 00:52:20,000
Speaker 1: When you mix that with the takedown defense, like, he'll

1207
00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:20,680
Speaker 1: shut you down.

1208
00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:22,640
Speaker 3: He will shut your shit down, and then you better

1209
00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:25,360
Speaker 3: have an answer. And Martinez, for as good as he is,

1210
00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:27,200
Speaker 3: and I want to be clear, dude, Martinez is this

1211
00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:29,799
Speaker 3: is why the win is so good for Aldo. Martinez

1212
00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:34,720
Speaker 3: is a good fighter. Aldo the depth of his game.

1213
00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:37,799
Speaker 3: When he wanted to takedown late, he got it. When

1214
00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:40,400
Speaker 3: he wanted to when he eventually began to work the defense,

1215
00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:42,200
Speaker 3: he got it. And then he pushed inside of a

1216
00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:46,680
Speaker 3: range where now he's making Martinez deal with his boxing, which.

1217
00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:50,840
Speaker 2: He could not do. There are so many layers to

1218
00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:52,520
Speaker 2: the game of Jose Aldo.

1219
00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:56,000
Speaker 3: So the fact that he had by hooker, by crook,

1220
00:52:56,560 --> 00:53:01,520
Speaker 3: kept himself in great condition and then was technically so proficient.

1221
00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:03,760
Speaker 1: You had that experience, I mean, and that experience.

1222
00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:05,839
Speaker 3: A three round five for Jose Aldo is a walk

1223
00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:09,400
Speaker 3: in the park. Wow, what a performance for the king.

1224
00:53:09,400 --> 00:53:10,400
Speaker 3: And I want to say one more thing, if I

1225
00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:13,200
Speaker 3: maybe see there's a lot of newer fans that come

1226
00:53:13,239 --> 00:53:15,880
Speaker 3: to the sport every few years, some after the pandemic.

1227
00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:19,200
Speaker 2: Some even sense the things got going after that, right.

1228
00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:20,759
Speaker 1: John Strickland brought in a lot of fans.

1229
00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:23,080
Speaker 3: He certainly did, and they all seem like they're very

1230
00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:25,560
Speaker 3: unhappy under sex males. But the point I want to

1231
00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:28,080
Speaker 3: make here is the point I want to make here

1232
00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:28,799
Speaker 3: is just a lot.

1233
00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:30,200
Speaker 2: Of dudes who are not getting their dick socked.

1234
00:53:30,200 --> 00:53:32,440
Speaker 1: I mean, that's just a lot of angry We just

1235
00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:33,080
Speaker 1: lost the spots.

1236
00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:37,040
Speaker 3: But the point not him. I'm just saying the Followers's

1237
00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:40,279
Speaker 3: a lot of dudes who just okay. There are so

1238
00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:44,280
Speaker 3: many people who I see, ogsp wasn't that good? Oh

1239
00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:47,120
Speaker 3: Aldo wasn't that good. Oh, John Jones, isn't that good?

1240
00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:50,239
Speaker 3: And I'm like, everyone plays this game or later on

1241
00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:52,160
Speaker 3: they look at someone's resume and they begin to be like, well,

1242
00:53:52,200 --> 00:53:54,359
Speaker 3: that wasn't that great, that wasn't that great, And then

1243
00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:57,799
Speaker 3: what you realize is these are just is nonsense. But

1244
00:53:57,920 --> 00:54:02,160
Speaker 3: it's so great that Aldo has come back around and

1245
00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:07,200
Speaker 3: seemingly out of nowhere, dude dismantle a very good contender.

1246
00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:08,880
Speaker 1: I don't care. I mean, look, if he's drinking a

1247
00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:11,000
Speaker 1: different brand of coffee and this one's stronger. Look, look,

1248
00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:13,799
Speaker 1: we're going to always be open to the potentials of

1249
00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:15,759
Speaker 1: what's going on there with aging athletes being able to

1250
00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:18,279
Speaker 1: turn it back on. But to some degree, I think

1251
00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:21,319
Speaker 1: it's he's in a better spot mentally. Without question, I

1252
00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:23,759
Speaker 1: think there was that in between area, right. I mean,

1253
00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:26,680
Speaker 1: he got remotivated going down to bantamweight and became sort

1254
00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:28,919
Speaker 1: of an accidental title contender due to a star power

1255
00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:31,120
Speaker 1: when you consider he got a title shot immediately after

1256
00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:33,800
Speaker 1: a loss there to Marlon Moriss, although a close one,

1257
00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:37,399
Speaker 1: but I think Luke, you know, he went on another

1258
00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:40,520
Speaker 1: run and then lost it against Morob and made the

1259
00:54:40,520 --> 00:54:42,120
Speaker 1: decision to retire, and it may have been in the

1260
00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:44,400
Speaker 1: right time. I think he was a little bit lost

1261
00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:47,640
Speaker 1: since the two losses to Holloway outside of having purpose

1262
00:54:47,680 --> 00:54:50,440
Speaker 1: again for that bandamweight title run. But then when you're

1263
00:54:50,440 --> 00:54:52,359
Speaker 1: in that mid to late thirties, maybe when you aren't

1264
00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:54,879
Speaker 1: training as hard it can. You can see sometimes when

1265
00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:56,719
Speaker 1: these dips start, me go, oh, there it is, he's old.

1266
00:54:56,880 --> 00:54:59,640
Speaker 1: He's not the same guy or whatever. Whatever Jose Aldo

1267
00:54:59,719 --> 00:55:03,040
Speaker 1: had to go through, through retirement, through getting serious into

1268
00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:06,400
Speaker 1: boxing again, it's sharp re sharpened his focus. But he

1269
00:55:06,440 --> 00:55:10,040
Speaker 1: seems very happy to be there. He seems willing to

1270
00:55:10,080 --> 00:55:11,759
Speaker 1: go in there and rip himself. I mean, that's what

1271
00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:14,839
Speaker 1: I'm saying about these late thirty Brazilian legends, the way

1272
00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:17,320
Speaker 1: that they're able to just kind of look at Barbosa,

1273
00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:19,120
Speaker 1: the shape he's been getting in lately, just sort of

1274
00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:21,000
Speaker 1: I think he went through that same mental thing too.

1275
00:55:21,040 --> 00:55:22,839
Speaker 1: Of you know, there can be dips and highs and

1276
00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:25,879
Speaker 1: lows in your motivation. Wherever. Whatever Jose had to go through,

1277
00:55:25,880 --> 00:55:28,480
Speaker 1: he's got that motivation back. So, Luke, do you think

1278
00:55:28,520 --> 00:55:31,760
Speaker 1: that motivation was ultimately to come out here and shine

1279
00:55:31,800 --> 00:55:35,000
Speaker 1: in a key negotiating window and give himself the leverage

1280
00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:38,600
Speaker 1: to get a very good UFC restructure contract moving forward,

1281
00:55:39,080 --> 00:55:41,040
Speaker 1: or do you think because he looks so great, maybe

1282
00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:43,080
Speaker 1: he does try this on the open market, try to

1283
00:55:43,080 --> 00:55:46,840
Speaker 1: get a big crossover boxing name, try maybe to entertain

1284
00:55:46,960 --> 00:55:48,880
Speaker 1: smart cage pay per view money. I mean, what do

1285
00:55:48,920 --> 00:55:51,880
Speaker 1: you think he does with this? Because there is money

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Speaker 1: on his side of the table right now from this performance,

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Speaker 1: and he looks really happy to be there, happy to

1288
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Speaker 1: put it in the work, happy to find a new life,

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Speaker 1: which is incredible at thirty seven, find new life.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And what I would add on top of that

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Speaker 3: is well, yes, I would agree with that. I mean,

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Speaker 3: let me answer the question, same answer I'm going to

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Speaker 3: give to just about everyone who's in a similar circumstance,

1294
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Speaker 3: aging legend, don't have a lot of time left, still

1295
00:56:18,120 --> 00:56:20,840
Speaker 3: look pretty good, end of your contract. What happens next?

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Speaker 3: He's going to look for the biggest offer I think.

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Speaker 3: You know, so if the UFC gives him an expedited

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Speaker 3: title fight, which I don't think a lot of people

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Speaker 3: would be super upset at.

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Speaker 2: That depends. We'll see they announced yesterday.

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Speaker 1: That's worth stopping to have that conversation because he got

1302
00:56:34,360 --> 00:56:37,040
Speaker 1: the title shot off of losing to Maris he just

1303
00:56:37,120 --> 00:56:37,600
Speaker 1: lost to.

1304
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Speaker 2: A controversial loss.

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00:56:39,560 --> 00:56:41,560
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say controversial. I think just think dispute it.

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00:56:41,760 --> 00:56:44,359
Speaker 1: I just think that the right decision was No. There's

1307
00:56:44,400 --> 00:56:48,040
Speaker 1: difference between controversial and disputed. Disputed just means people are split.

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00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:51,560
Speaker 1: Controversial usually means somebody got it way wrong or there

1309
00:56:51,640 --> 00:56:52,600
Speaker 1: was a well, I.

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Speaker 3: Guess what depends on your view of the judges and

1311
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Speaker 3: how charitable it is to make it either way. A

1312
00:56:57,120 --> 00:57:00,480
Speaker 3: lot of people felt like he won that one, okay.

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00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:02,320
Speaker 1: But considering he lost to Morob, who's probably getting the

1314
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Speaker 1: next title shot. In fact, Sean O'Malley this weekend was

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Speaker 1: fielding reporters questions about are you fighting Morob in the

1316
00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:08,960
Speaker 1: sphere and he was like, well, maybe not the sphere,

1317
00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:12,640
Speaker 1: but I could be fighting him in September. There's no chance,

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00:57:12,719 --> 00:57:17,040
Speaker 1: although deserves to get slid in above Morob. But could

1319
00:57:17,040 --> 00:57:19,800
Speaker 1: he get O'Malley on a short turnaround if he beats

1320
00:57:20,080 --> 00:57:21,640
Speaker 1: I mean it's not a short turn around because it

1321
00:57:21,640 --> 00:57:23,320
Speaker 1: would have to be this fall that he would fight Morob.

1322
00:57:23,520 --> 00:57:26,800
Speaker 1: What does Jose do? Could he get a a really

1323
00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:29,680
Speaker 1: heavy UFC new contract and kind of wait in line

1324
00:57:29,800 --> 00:57:31,400
Speaker 1: potentially as they could give way.

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Speaker 3: He could get the winner of Morob and Sean. I

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00:57:33,480 --> 00:57:36,080
Speaker 3: don't know what a Morob versus Aldo fight does on

1327
00:57:36,120 --> 00:57:39,120
Speaker 3: pay per view. A Sean versus Aldo fight does a

1328
00:57:39,160 --> 00:57:41,360
Speaker 3: lot better, obviously, especially if Sean coming off of.

1329
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Speaker 1: Whins the belt. I could see doing that rematch in

1330
00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:45,480
Speaker 1: Brazil Jose versus Marable.

1331
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Speaker 3: Yes's and you put a coman of any getting put

1332
00:57:47,600 --> 00:57:50,040
Speaker 3: a bigger one there. But does he deserve it for.

1333
00:57:50,080 --> 00:57:52,360
Speaker 1: One victory out of retirement against Jonathan Martinez?

1334
00:57:52,440 --> 00:57:54,880
Speaker 3: No, No, deserve No. But this is in a world

1335
00:57:54,880 --> 00:57:56,360
Speaker 3: where you get what you deserve. This is a world

1336
00:57:56,360 --> 00:57:58,040
Speaker 3: where you get what you leverage for yourself.

1337
00:57:58,360 --> 00:58:00,400
Speaker 1: That that's it feel like your money's leaning toward him

1338
00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:02,200
Speaker 1: coming back to UFC, that they'll take care of him

1339
00:58:02,240 --> 00:58:02,760
Speaker 1: and they'll come back.

1340
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Speaker 3: So I'll say this, Here's what I think are his

1341
00:58:04,720 --> 00:58:08,920
Speaker 3: three best options from the outside looking in. One, UFC

1342
00:58:08,960 --> 00:58:12,120
Speaker 3: gives him some kind of better deal and an expedited

1343
00:58:12,120 --> 00:58:13,680
Speaker 3: title shot, because that's where the real money is.

1344
00:58:13,720 --> 00:58:15,840
Speaker 2: If you can get the belt. That's one. Two.

1345
00:58:16,080 --> 00:58:17,840
Speaker 3: I think it's an outside shot. I don't think it's

1346
00:58:17,880 --> 00:58:21,120
Speaker 3: that likely. But if I'm the PFL, I've got Pachi mix.

1347
00:58:21,200 --> 00:58:22,800
Speaker 3: I have no one for this guy to fight. He

1348
00:58:22,880 --> 00:58:24,440
Speaker 3: might be the best bands on weight in the world.

1349
00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:27,880
Speaker 3: Gotta tell you a Pachi Mix versus a Jose Aldo fight,

1350
00:58:28,280 --> 00:58:29,880
Speaker 3: it's one of the best fights you can make outside

1351
00:58:29,880 --> 00:58:31,560
Speaker 3: of the UFC, irrespective of weight class.

1352
00:58:31,640 --> 00:58:32,320
Speaker 1: That's incredible.

1353
00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:33,800
Speaker 3: And if they might give him the money for it,

1354
00:58:33,840 --> 00:58:36,000
Speaker 3: I would take dude. If they said to me, what

1355
00:58:36,040 --> 00:58:39,080
Speaker 3: would you rather get Marob versus Aldo two or Aldo

1356
00:58:39,160 --> 00:58:42,400
Speaker 3: versus Patchi Mix, I'm taking Aldo Pachi Mix ten times

1357
00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:45,600
Speaker 3: out of ten. The third one is the influencer or

1358
00:58:45,640 --> 00:58:48,600
Speaker 3: even just straight up boxing route. And I don't know

1359
00:58:48,920 --> 00:58:50,840
Speaker 3: who he and his team have outpegged. Is like, oh,

1360
00:58:50,880 --> 00:58:51,840
Speaker 3: that's a good candidate here.

1361
00:58:51,880 --> 00:58:53,760
Speaker 1: The Floyd rumors at one point, did you believe them?

1362
00:58:53,920 --> 00:58:55,760
Speaker 3: This isn't Floyd stuck in Dubai. I saw that over

1363
00:58:55,800 --> 00:58:57,440
Speaker 3: the weekend. I don't know what the situation is there.

1364
00:58:57,480 --> 00:59:00,880
Speaker 2: I mean maybe, but like I don't have any interest

1365
00:59:00,880 --> 00:59:01,600
Speaker 2: in that. I don't don't.

1366
00:59:02,120 --> 00:59:04,680
Speaker 3: I don't know how lucrative that would be, But those

1367
00:59:04,840 --> 00:59:08,560
Speaker 3: two on the MMA side seemed like very viable possibilities.

1368
00:59:08,880 --> 00:59:10,600
Speaker 3: Patchie mixed for a big number. By the way, it

1369
00:59:10,600 --> 00:59:13,160
Speaker 3: would be a BELLOTOAR title. Wouldn't that be weird. First

1370
00:59:13,160 --> 00:59:15,280
Speaker 3: guy to win a UFC title then go to Belatour

1371
00:59:15,320 --> 00:59:17,920
Speaker 3: and then potentially win a bellotoor title hasn't really happened

1372
00:59:17,960 --> 00:59:18,800
Speaker 3: in reverse that way.

1373
00:59:18,840 --> 00:59:21,920
Speaker 2: I don't believe no Bader went there and won two titles.

1374
00:59:21,920 --> 00:59:24,160
Speaker 2: But oh fuck, you're right, never wont it. You're right,

1375
00:59:24,160 --> 00:59:26,439
Speaker 2: he never won it. So anyway, the point I'm trying

1376
00:59:26,440 --> 00:59:28,680
Speaker 2: to make is that would be huge. Let's see who

1377
00:59:28,720 --> 00:59:30,560
Speaker 2: gives him the money. I think that will dictate his options.

1378
00:59:30,760 --> 00:59:32,760
Speaker 1: Indeed, all right, let's go to topic number four, which

1379
00:59:32,760 --> 00:59:36,640
Speaker 1: is essentially winners and losers elsewhere at UFC three oh

1380
00:59:36,680 --> 00:59:39,000
Speaker 1: one on Saturday night, Luke. Before we get into these winners,

1381
00:59:39,040 --> 00:59:41,920
Speaker 1: including this turn almost to turn back the clock, good feeling,

1382
00:59:41,960 --> 00:59:44,880
Speaker 1: Anthony Smith breakthrough early submission. I want to talk about

1383
00:59:44,880 --> 00:59:47,320
Speaker 1: one of the biggest losers. So, if you tuned into

1384
00:59:47,880 --> 00:59:50,320
Speaker 1: at L Thomas News on the Old X this weekend,

1385
00:59:50,360 --> 00:59:54,400
Speaker 1: you were berated that the sky was falling all the neighborhood.

1386
00:59:54,440 --> 00:59:55,720
Speaker 2: I was berated that the sky.

1387
00:59:55,600 --> 00:59:59,840
Speaker 1: Was berated with the fact that the sky all the neighborhoods.

1388
01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:02,840
Speaker 1: Children were running into Luke's lawn and wouldn't get off

1389
01:00:02,840 --> 01:00:06,280
Speaker 1: there to retrieve their balls and ESPN Plus had ruined

1390
01:00:06,360 --> 01:00:10,080
Speaker 1: Luke's night. But Luke, I'm here to tell you what

1391
01:00:10,200 --> 01:00:12,080
Speaker 1: happened to me in the last twenty four hours. I

1392
01:00:12,080 --> 01:00:13,840
Speaker 1: wasn't able to watch UFC three on one live because

1393
01:00:13,840 --> 01:00:16,560
Speaker 1: I was at the Canalo fight. Purchase the pay per view?

1394
01:00:16,640 --> 01:00:18,400
Speaker 1: Well that worked. To purchase it, Oh.

1395
01:00:18,440 --> 01:00:19,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll take your money.

1396
01:00:19,680 --> 01:00:23,480
Speaker 1: But on my laptop and my phone, literally trying everything

1397
01:00:23,560 --> 01:00:27,280
Speaker 1: Wi Fi off, Wi Fi, hot spotting, vpning, everything possible,

1398
01:00:28,000 --> 01:00:30,880
Speaker 1: I couldn't get ESPN Plus on my laptop or phone

1399
01:00:30,920 --> 01:00:33,800
Speaker 1: to play the purchase. That is telling me that I've

1400
01:00:33,840 --> 01:00:35,720
Speaker 1: purchased the same thing happened to you in real time.

1401
01:00:36,800 --> 01:00:39,800
Speaker 1: This feels disastrously bad for the future. Can they fix this?

1402
01:00:39,840 --> 01:00:42,200
Speaker 1: All I'm getting is BAMTech errors every time I'm trying

1403
01:00:42,200 --> 01:00:42,680
Speaker 1: to click on it.

1404
01:00:42,720 --> 01:00:43,600
Speaker 2: I don't get errors.

1405
01:00:43,680 --> 01:00:48,840
Speaker 3: I just every time I go to my ESPN Plus section,

1406
01:00:49,040 --> 01:00:51,160
Speaker 3: I click on the thumbnail for the main card or

1407
01:00:51,560 --> 01:00:53,880
Speaker 3: anyone I can find for UC three to one, and

1408
01:00:53,880 --> 01:00:55,800
Speaker 3: then it raps me to that page, and then the

1409
01:00:55,800 --> 01:00:57,680
Speaker 3: screen refreshes and asked me to buy the pay per

1410
01:00:57,760 --> 01:00:59,480
Speaker 3: view again exactly, And then I try to buy it again,

1411
01:00:59,520 --> 01:01:00,720
Speaker 3: it says, oh, you don't have to buy it, you

1412
01:01:00,720 --> 01:01:03,040
Speaker 3: already paid exactly, You're all set. Then I go back

1413
01:01:03,200 --> 01:01:05,200
Speaker 3: and then the process starts over and over and over again.

1414
01:01:05,200 --> 01:01:08,120
Speaker 3: Now I've had problems with ESPN Plus for a while

1415
01:01:08,160 --> 01:01:09,720
Speaker 3: where you buy it and then it doesn't work, and

1416
01:01:09,720 --> 01:01:11,920
Speaker 3: then everyone tells you the same thing. Oh, change browsers

1417
01:01:12,160 --> 01:01:14,360
Speaker 3: sometimes in the past that has worked, or they tell

1418
01:01:14,360 --> 01:01:16,040
Speaker 3: you to log out of your account, log back in.

1419
01:01:16,440 --> 01:01:18,480
Speaker 2: Yes, in the past that has worked, that is no

1420
01:01:18,600 --> 01:01:20,160
Speaker 2: longer working. BC.

1421
01:01:20,800 --> 01:01:25,560
Speaker 3: I called ESPN Plus customer service on Sunday, Oh you

1422
01:01:25,640 --> 01:01:27,400
Speaker 3: got a live body. I got a live body, and

1423
01:01:27,400 --> 01:01:29,400
Speaker 3: I spent an hour on the phone. They could not

1424
01:01:29,520 --> 01:01:31,280
Speaker 3: figure out what the problem was. I even had to

1425
01:01:31,280 --> 01:01:33,720
Speaker 3: give them my IP address and they tried to see

1426
01:01:33,720 --> 01:01:35,080
Speaker 3: if there was any kind of issue with that.

1427
01:01:35,160 --> 01:01:35,680
Speaker 2: There was not.

1428
01:01:35,920 --> 01:01:38,240
Speaker 1: When they did not like looking at your search history

1429
01:01:38,240 --> 01:01:40,120
Speaker 1: through that I'm not watched.

1430
01:01:40,440 --> 01:01:44,840
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm not looking for you know, asa Akira

1431
01:01:45,240 --> 01:01:48,600
Speaker 3: or in the in the Espn Plus chat.

1432
01:01:48,640 --> 01:01:49,800
Speaker 2: But I'm just trying to point out.

1433
01:01:50,120 --> 01:01:52,200
Speaker 3: They gave me an hour on the phone, and I

1434
01:01:52,240 --> 01:01:54,320
Speaker 3: didn't end up with the refund, and I didn't end

1435
01:01:54,400 --> 01:01:55,920
Speaker 3: up being able to watch it at all. But they

1436
01:01:55,920 --> 01:01:58,320
Speaker 3: told me what they told me was wait until this

1437
01:01:58,440 --> 01:02:01,080
Speaker 3: was yesterday? They said wait until today. So today BC,

1438
01:02:01,280 --> 01:02:03,720
Speaker 3: I fired it up again and wouldn't you know it,

1439
01:02:04,160 --> 01:02:10,040
Speaker 3: I cannot watch BC. I do not understand. It's not

1440
01:02:10,120 --> 01:02:11,520
Speaker 3: just about me on that event.

1441
01:02:11,840 --> 01:02:14,000
Speaker 1: Don't be rate us with this. I'm not do I

1442
01:02:14,000 --> 01:02:15,600
Speaker 1: even know what by right means.

1443
01:02:16,880 --> 01:02:22,040
Speaker 3: I cannot believe in an era when there are numerous

1444
01:02:22,080 --> 01:02:26,720
Speaker 3: other streaming platforms who all have flawless service, even those

1445
01:02:26,800 --> 01:02:28,920
Speaker 3: that relate to one behind a paywall. For example, I

1446
01:02:29,000 --> 01:02:30,880
Speaker 3: used PPV dot com and I was able to watch

1447
01:02:31,240 --> 01:02:34,360
Speaker 3: the Canelo fight, no issues, no problem at all, worked

1448
01:02:34,520 --> 01:02:39,320
Speaker 3: just fine. In an era where a there is stiff

1449
01:02:39,400 --> 01:02:43,520
Speaker 3: competition from other streaming platforms and rights holders change over

1450
01:02:43,560 --> 01:02:48,000
Speaker 3: time pretty considerably. And then two, when piracy is so

1451
01:02:48,760 --> 01:02:55,040
Speaker 3: ubiquitous that you can trot out a product as universally

1452
01:02:55,200 --> 01:03:01,520
Speaker 3: reviled and quite literally non functioning as ESPN plus.

1453
01:03:01,240 --> 01:03:04,200
Speaker 2: Dude, the balls on this.

1454
01:03:04,080 --> 01:03:08,040
Speaker 3: Company to think of product this deficient won't come back

1455
01:03:08,080 --> 01:03:09,080
Speaker 3: to haunt them in the end.

1456
01:03:09,280 --> 01:03:11,440
Speaker 1: First of all, I'm here to tell you that power

1457
01:03:11,440 --> 01:03:14,280
Speaker 1: Slap has the best production in all of sports, and

1458
01:03:14,320 --> 01:03:14,720
Speaker 1: they should.

1459
01:03:14,920 --> 01:03:17,240
Speaker 3: It's not a UFC call. I'm not bashing the UFC

1460
01:03:17,280 --> 01:03:19,360
Speaker 3: for this ESPN product.

1461
01:03:19,400 --> 01:03:23,040
Speaker 1: This is the continuation of the four minute data anti

1462
01:03:23,120 --> 01:03:26,280
Speaker 1: media video or is he purposely going to their switchers

1463
01:03:26,280 --> 01:03:29,120
Speaker 1: and the operators and saying find the ip numbs.

1464
01:03:28,760 --> 01:03:30,840
Speaker 3: Because you are having problems and so, by the way,

1465
01:03:30,840 --> 01:03:32,240
Speaker 3: we will speak out against this.

1466
01:03:32,320 --> 01:03:33,040
Speaker 2: Okay, how about this?

1467
01:03:33,080 --> 01:03:36,240
Speaker 3: I when I did CBS Sports HQ after the UFC

1468
01:03:36,280 --> 01:03:37,840
Speaker 3: three ye o one event was over and I had

1469
01:03:37,840 --> 01:03:39,640
Speaker 3: to give them a ten minute spiel on what happened.

1470
01:03:40,160 --> 01:03:41,360
Speaker 2: They told me before we started.

1471
01:03:41,400 --> 01:03:43,680
Speaker 3: Hakeem told me that they couldn't They ordered the pay

1472
01:03:43,720 --> 01:03:45,400
Speaker 3: per view and couldn't get it to work.

1473
01:03:45,480 --> 01:03:48,000
Speaker 2: My dms were filled with people.

1474
01:03:48,120 --> 01:03:49,760
Speaker 1: This was not a pay per view card on paper,

1475
01:03:49,760 --> 01:03:52,720
Speaker 1: and yet I'm trying. They're actively pushing me away from watching,

1476
01:03:52,840 --> 01:03:53,560
Speaker 1: losing their mind.

1477
01:03:53,560 --> 01:03:54,760
Speaker 3: And then, by the way, it was funny on the

1478
01:03:54,760 --> 01:03:56,800
Speaker 3: call that I had yesterday with the ESPN Customer Serve

1479
01:03:57,000 --> 01:03:59,480
Speaker 3: ESPN Plus customer service, what they told me was, oh,

1480
01:03:59,480 --> 01:04:01,040
Speaker 3: this works better on your TV on your phone.

1481
01:04:01,040 --> 01:04:02,640
Speaker 2: I'm like, well, first of all, I'm not watching on

1482
01:04:02,680 --> 01:04:05,000
Speaker 2: my fucking phone. Number one. Number two.

1483
01:04:05,320 --> 01:04:07,480
Speaker 3: Yes, of course I can watch it on my TV,

1484
01:04:07,720 --> 01:04:09,800
Speaker 3: but it's in the living room. I need to watch

1485
01:04:09,880 --> 01:04:12,240
Speaker 3: in my office or my computer's arm, and she was

1486
01:04:12,280 --> 01:04:13,720
Speaker 3: like you, why don't you just go watch on the TV.

1487
01:04:13,800 --> 01:04:15,880
Speaker 2: I'm like, lady, Yeah, Twokey watches Blippy.

1488
01:04:16,440 --> 01:04:20,400
Speaker 3: I'm like, lady, you are selling pay per views as

1489
01:04:20,480 --> 01:04:25,200
Speaker 3: available on a computer browser. They have to work or

1490
01:04:25,680 --> 01:04:30,520
Speaker 3: stop selling them on the computer browser. I cannot believe

1491
01:04:30,560 --> 01:04:32,880
Speaker 3: I have this. UFC three hundred couldn't watch it, and

1492
01:04:32,920 --> 01:04:35,480
Speaker 3: I've paid for it. UFC three oh one couldn't watch

1493
01:04:35,520 --> 01:04:39,120
Speaker 3: it and I paid for BC. If the streaming services

1494
01:04:39,520 --> 01:04:44,600
Speaker 3: are less reliable than the piracy, I never ever want

1495
01:04:44,600 --> 01:04:49,800
Speaker 3: to hear an ESPN executive say one fucking word about piracy.

1496
01:04:49,920 --> 01:04:56,080
Speaker 3: Your product sucks so bad you have driven paying customers

1497
01:04:56,760 --> 01:04:59,960
Speaker 3: to that place. Enjoy that future.

1498
01:05:02,480 --> 01:05:04,600
Speaker 1: Tough words from a tough man.

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01:05:04,960 --> 01:05:07,480
Speaker 3: Ano serious question. What the fuck am I supposed to

1500
01:05:07,520 --> 01:05:10,240
Speaker 3: do for UFC three oh two Is it going to work?

1501
01:05:11,000 --> 01:05:11,640
Speaker 2: Serious question?

1502
01:05:12,480 --> 01:05:14,120
Speaker 1: I think you're gonna have to pirate it. They're not

1503
01:05:14,160 --> 01:05:15,960
Speaker 1: making it easy. They gotta fix that. Look, they gotta

1504
01:05:16,000 --> 01:05:16,560
Speaker 1: fix You're.

1505
01:05:16,400 --> 01:05:18,920
Speaker 2: Making this all about me, dude. Everyone watch it.

1506
01:05:18,960 --> 01:05:21,000
Speaker 1: I'm actually trying to do my job and watch these fights.

1507
01:05:21,000 --> 01:05:23,000
Speaker 1: I had to watch it on some bootleg Long Island

1508
01:05:23,040 --> 01:05:25,120
Speaker 1: Luke stream and thank you for having that long island. Luke,

1509
01:05:25,160 --> 01:05:27,640
Speaker 1: I hope I didn't out yet stealing. Wow. All right,

1510
01:05:27,680 --> 01:05:29,680
Speaker 1: those were the big losers of two oh one three

1511
01:05:29,800 --> 01:05:32,080
Speaker 1: oh one. But when we're talking about the winners in

1512
01:05:32,120 --> 01:05:34,880
Speaker 1: here in topic number four on Saturday, uh Luke if

1513
01:05:34,960 --> 01:05:38,640
Speaker 1: Canelo heard the whispers in the in the anger from critics,

1514
01:05:38,640 --> 01:05:42,240
Speaker 1: and he fueled that properly. Boy did Anthony Smith, who

1515
01:05:42,280 --> 01:05:44,320
Speaker 1: at age thirty five, we were kind of like, man,

1516
01:05:44,320 --> 01:05:48,520
Speaker 1: maybe he should go away. He believed that he can

1517
01:05:48,560 --> 01:05:51,160
Speaker 1: still contend. Well, he got two minutes to show it

1518
01:05:51,280 --> 01:05:54,360
Speaker 1: against uh was it ehor Patrino? I just agree that

1519
01:05:54,680 --> 01:05:57,760
Speaker 1: uh V to detour Patrino, excuse me, And in two

1520
01:05:57,800 --> 01:06:01,600
Speaker 1: minutes Luke guillotine sub and it felt really good to

1521
01:06:01,600 --> 01:06:05,120
Speaker 1: see the aging veteran fighter remind you who he still is?

1522
01:06:05,120 --> 01:06:06,960
Speaker 1: Is Anthony Smith all the way back? Did he get

1523
01:06:07,000 --> 01:06:08,240
Speaker 1: his mojo back with his performance?

1524
01:06:08,280 --> 01:06:09,360
Speaker 2: Well, here's what was interesting to me.

1525
01:06:11,160 --> 01:06:13,480
Speaker 3: Yes, he got the sub and he got the sub

1526
01:06:13,560 --> 01:06:16,880
Speaker 3: in part because Patrino made some bad decisions. So he

1527
01:06:17,000 --> 01:06:19,480
Speaker 3: picks him up and then Smith kind of jumps guard

1528
01:06:19,480 --> 01:06:21,760
Speaker 3: and it's like either you have to turn them. When

1529
01:06:21,800 --> 01:06:23,520
Speaker 3: you score a double, you have to pull the legs

1530
01:06:23,560 --> 01:06:25,320
Speaker 3: past you so that when you dump them there is

1531
01:06:25,360 --> 01:06:28,040
Speaker 3: no guillotine, or if they jump guillotine and that's no

1532
01:06:28,080 --> 01:06:30,640
Speaker 3: longer possible. You need to rest against the fence and

1533
01:06:30,640 --> 01:06:33,840
Speaker 3: then hand fight and not just fall into guard, because

1534
01:06:33,840 --> 01:06:35,640
Speaker 3: that's what happens when you have a good black belt

1535
01:06:35,640 --> 01:06:37,920
Speaker 3: and you do that. So Patrino was making some poor decisions,

1536
01:06:38,360 --> 01:06:42,040
Speaker 3: which is indicative of potentially his long term ability. But

1537
01:06:42,080 --> 01:06:43,720
Speaker 3: I will say this for Smith. First of all, I

1538
01:06:43,760 --> 01:06:45,520
Speaker 3: was very worried for him. I did not know how

1539
01:06:45,520 --> 01:06:47,920
Speaker 3: this was going to go. Patrino fucking built like a

1540
01:06:47,920 --> 01:06:50,000
Speaker 3: brick shit house, and I thought that was going to

1541
01:06:50,080 --> 01:06:54,840
Speaker 3: be enough. Smith looked short fight, short fight. He looked physical,

1542
01:06:55,000 --> 01:06:57,240
Speaker 3: he was in the pocket, he was landing and throwing

1543
01:06:57,320 --> 01:07:00,800
Speaker 3: leg kicks, he was confident, he was Marchingtrino.

1544
01:07:01,440 --> 01:07:03,960
Speaker 1: Look const a mental warfare you have to go through

1545
01:07:04,000 --> 01:07:06,400
Speaker 1: at that point in your career when everyone's telling you

1546
01:07:06,440 --> 01:07:08,520
Speaker 1: to walk away. They're like, you got a good broadcasting job,

1547
01:07:08,640 --> 01:07:11,360
Speaker 1: just go you don't belong here anymore. I love that

1548
01:07:11,440 --> 01:07:15,000
Speaker 1: it rallied him to I mean, he was so poised

1549
01:07:15,000 --> 01:07:17,640
Speaker 1: and confident and surgical, and he got the job done.

1550
01:07:17,640 --> 01:07:18,280
Speaker 1: It felt great to watch.

1551
01:07:18,320 --> 01:07:18,920
Speaker 2: He absolutely did.

1552
01:07:19,000 --> 01:07:20,720
Speaker 3: I mean this does speak to an extent to the

1553
01:07:20,800 --> 01:07:24,400
Speaker 3: depth at light heavyweight, sure, but for the Anthony Smith experience,

1554
01:07:24,800 --> 01:07:27,680
Speaker 3: where he had even said, everyone is counting me out,

1555
01:07:27,960 --> 01:07:28,560
Speaker 3: they want me to.

1556
01:07:28,560 --> 01:07:31,320
Speaker 2: Be a gatekeeper. This is about a passing of the torch.

1557
01:07:31,440 --> 01:07:33,360
Speaker 3: He even said pre fight, fuck that, And of course

1558
01:07:33,440 --> 01:07:36,000
Speaker 3: he's getting lambasted on social media for it. And then

1559
01:07:36,000 --> 01:07:38,800
Speaker 3: he goes out and he does that. The demise of

1560
01:07:38,840 --> 01:07:42,320
Speaker 3: Anthony Smith was grossly overstated. There's a little bit of

1561
01:07:42,320 --> 01:07:43,960
Speaker 3: life lift in that tank. I think he should get

1562
01:07:43,960 --> 01:07:46,120
Speaker 3: a big fight out of this. Can he win a

1563
01:07:46,120 --> 01:07:49,080
Speaker 3: title that still seems like a pretty big came.

1564
01:07:48,920 --> 01:07:52,120
Speaker 1: Big fight be the grappling challenge that him and Alex

1565
01:07:52,160 --> 01:07:53,640
Speaker 1: Pereira have been going back and forth.

1566
01:07:53,680 --> 01:07:57,360
Speaker 3: I would love to see that. I think Smith wins probably.

1567
01:07:57,400 --> 01:07:59,240
Speaker 3: I think Smith wins that one. Smith's very good on

1568
01:07:59,280 --> 01:08:02,680
Speaker 3: the ground. But either way, wouldn't you agree He's earned

1569
01:08:02,720 --> 01:08:05,760
Speaker 3: a really big opportunity with this by showing, hey, there's

1570
01:08:05,760 --> 01:08:07,040
Speaker 3: a little bit of life left in this thing.

1571
01:08:07,160 --> 01:08:08,600
Speaker 1: I just don't want that opportunity to be too big.

1572
01:08:08,640 --> 01:08:10,080
Speaker 1: I don't want to throw him back to the wolf.

1573
01:08:10,120 --> 01:08:11,600
Speaker 1: So who would be like all I wanted to start

1574
01:08:11,640 --> 01:08:14,000
Speaker 1: having to build back a wind streak to get back

1575
01:08:14,040 --> 01:08:15,840
Speaker 1: to being potentially.

1576
01:08:15,440 --> 01:08:16,839
Speaker 2: This Does he want to make that climb?

1577
01:08:18,439 --> 01:08:21,000
Speaker 1: I mean, if not, you become a name opponent, right,

1578
01:08:21,160 --> 01:08:23,400
Speaker 1: So it's like I think he wants to make another

1579
01:08:23,479 --> 01:08:25,360
Speaker 1: run at contention. I think you know, this has to

1580
01:08:25,360 --> 01:08:27,639
Speaker 1: rejuvenate him to believe he can do that. This division

1581
01:08:27,720 --> 01:08:30,240
Speaker 1: might be as to your point, you know and experienced

1582
01:08:30,320 --> 01:08:31,560
Speaker 1: enough that he might be able to make some I

1583
01:08:31,600 --> 01:08:33,240
Speaker 1: mean the guy's Luke that we thought would be here

1584
01:08:33,240 --> 01:08:37,120
Speaker 1: at this point and Goliath rackets, they didn't exactly get here.

1585
01:08:37,160 --> 01:08:39,920
Speaker 1: It's been mayhem atop this divise, right, so we'll see

1586
01:08:39,960 --> 01:08:40,559
Speaker 1: how what happened.

1587
01:08:40,560 --> 01:08:42,800
Speaker 3: You could do the Rackage rematch. I know he lost,

1588
01:08:42,840 --> 01:08:44,519
Speaker 3: but like it might work out in terms of the

1589
01:08:44,600 --> 01:08:45,360
Speaker 3: rankings and everything.

1590
01:08:45,400 --> 01:08:47,080
Speaker 1: I mean, either way, when you're an aging fighter and

1591
01:08:47,120 --> 01:08:48,519
Speaker 1: you've been through a lot of damage and then you

1592
01:08:48,560 --> 01:08:51,120
Speaker 1: sort of rejuvenate and resurrect your gift is always going

1593
01:08:51,160 --> 01:08:54,360
Speaker 1: to be an even harder fight that could produce more difficulty.

1594
01:08:54,479 --> 01:08:56,519
Speaker 1: That's the grind or the meat grinder we're in. We're

1595
01:08:56,520 --> 01:08:58,360
Speaker 1: going to get into. Michelle Padad. I believe in DMS

1596
01:08:58,360 --> 01:08:59,360
Speaker 1: from Donks Luke, but.

1597
01:08:59,600 --> 01:09:01,879
Speaker 2: Kyle Barrajo Bojalio.

1598
01:09:02,000 --> 01:09:05,280
Speaker 1: Kyle Bohalio is certainly a middleweight prospect who's rising, and

1599
01:09:05,320 --> 01:09:07,000
Speaker 1: he only needed a few minutes to send friend of

1600
01:09:07,040 --> 01:09:10,720
Speaker 1: the Program Paul Craig back to the stab capital of

1601
01:09:10,760 --> 01:09:13,759
Speaker 1: the world. Glass Cow, Cow, let's.

1602
01:09:13,560 --> 01:09:14,320
Speaker 2: Go, Let's go.

1603
01:09:15,280 --> 01:09:18,479
Speaker 1: Brandon Wise of CBS Sports thinks we broke Paul Craig

1604
01:09:18,560 --> 01:09:20,360
Speaker 1: because we know how do we bring when he appeared

1605
01:09:20,360 --> 01:09:22,519
Speaker 1: in London on our interview show Room Service Diaries and

1606
01:09:22,560 --> 01:09:24,160
Speaker 1: we're like, man, this is the funniest guy ever. Is

1607
01:09:24,200 --> 01:09:28,599
Speaker 1: the best? The rejuvenation, the reinvention at middleweight hasn't only

1608
01:09:28,640 --> 01:09:30,920
Speaker 1: worked here, Luke, it's yet another tough knockout loss.

1609
01:09:30,960 --> 01:09:33,560
Speaker 3: Has Brandon ever sent a compliment about MK to you?

1610
01:09:33,640 --> 01:09:34,840
Speaker 3: Because he's never said one to me?

1611
01:09:35,040 --> 01:09:35,759
Speaker 1: Is this a challenge?

1612
01:09:35,840 --> 01:09:37,680
Speaker 3: No, I'm just sort of curious if you've ever got

1613
01:09:37,720 --> 01:09:39,800
Speaker 3: any feedback about what we've done in MK there's been

1614
01:09:39,840 --> 01:09:41,680
Speaker 3: anything other than angry.

1615
01:09:41,640 --> 01:09:42,760
Speaker 1: Probably tricking that hater aide.

1616
01:09:42,840 --> 01:09:44,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of that from Brandon.

1617
01:09:44,320 --> 01:09:47,760
Speaker 1: What do you think about a where Kyo can go

1618
01:09:47,840 --> 01:09:50,240
Speaker 1: with this performance? But be like with the age and

1619
01:09:50,280 --> 01:09:52,240
Speaker 1: the knockout losses adding up, it's a tough spot. For

1620
01:09:52,240 --> 01:09:55,160
Speaker 1: Paul Craig after this.

1621
01:09:54,040 --> 01:09:54,639
Speaker 2: This was bad.

1622
01:09:55,360 --> 01:09:59,519
Speaker 3: I will say I thought Bohoalio fought really well, took

1623
01:09:59,520 --> 01:10:01,679
Speaker 3: his time. Paul Craig t had to go for a takedown,

1624
01:10:01,720 --> 01:10:03,639
Speaker 3: couldn't get it with baseball slide to go to guard.

1625
01:10:03,760 --> 01:10:06,920
Speaker 3: Boholio has a good ground game, but decided to fight

1626
01:10:06,960 --> 01:10:10,520
Speaker 3: a more strategic fight on his terms. Would never participate

1627
01:10:10,520 --> 01:10:13,240
Speaker 3: in the ground. Backed up, forced Paul Craig to stand

1628
01:10:13,280 --> 01:10:14,840
Speaker 3: and then you see the results, was able in the

1629
01:10:14,840 --> 01:10:17,680
Speaker 3: second round to eventually put him away. This was a

1630
01:10:17,960 --> 01:10:22,599
Speaker 3: very mature performance from Boholio. Now, of course, Craig leaves

1631
01:10:22,600 --> 01:10:24,400
Speaker 3: his head right in the middle. He was getting tagged

1632
01:10:24,400 --> 01:10:26,760
Speaker 3: over and over again. I will say I'm a little bit.

1633
01:10:26,760 --> 01:10:28,479
Speaker 3: I mean, here's the thing, you see, it's like changing

1634
01:10:28,479 --> 01:10:31,120
Speaker 3: weight classes. People say, oh, it doesn't mean anything. It

1635
01:10:31,160 --> 01:10:35,040
Speaker 3: would mean it means something. But if dude, I love

1636
01:10:35,040 --> 01:10:37,800
Speaker 3: Paul Craig. He was great to us. It's hard to

1637
01:10:37,840 --> 01:10:40,000
Speaker 3: watch that fight and think that he couldn't be doing

1638
01:10:40,080 --> 01:10:45,120
Speaker 3: much more with his stand up technique, and Bohoalio realized

1639
01:10:45,120 --> 01:10:46,559
Speaker 3: that he was going to have an advantage there and

1640
01:10:46,600 --> 01:10:50,120
Speaker 3: just stuck to it and sure enough, the deficiencies really

1641
01:10:50,200 --> 01:10:54,639
Speaker 3: really plagued Paul Craig. So, on the one hand, nice grown,

1642
01:10:55,000 --> 01:10:57,400
Speaker 3: mature performance from Kyle Bohalio.

1643
01:10:57,680 --> 01:10:59,960
Speaker 2: Salute well done from Paul Craig.

1644
01:11:00,080 --> 01:11:03,240
Speaker 3: It's like, I don't understand the point of draining yourself

1645
01:11:03,680 --> 01:11:06,360
Speaker 3: to get down to any weight class. If your stand

1646
01:11:06,439 --> 01:11:08,680
Speaker 3: up is going to be this deficient this late in

1647
01:11:08,760 --> 01:11:11,320
Speaker 3: the game, they're gonna piece you up in either place.

1648
01:11:11,760 --> 01:11:13,000
Speaker 2: And that's exactly what you got here.

1649
01:11:13,040 --> 01:11:15,960
Speaker 1: Thirty six years old, four losses in his last five.

1650
01:11:16,680 --> 01:11:18,400
Speaker 1: I will say this by stoppage.

1651
01:11:18,160 --> 01:11:21,759
Speaker 2: We'll say this. He's from Scotland, the Glasgow knife capital.

1652
01:11:22,000 --> 01:11:23,880
Speaker 1: Let's fucking go Scotland.

1653
01:11:24,000 --> 01:11:28,240
Speaker 3: Shouts to Tom Staltman. He won his third from Scotland,

1654
01:11:28,400 --> 01:11:31,599
Speaker 3: third World Strongest Man, third and four years. By the way,

1655
01:11:31,640 --> 01:11:33,800
Speaker 3: he got second last year at Canadian Donk beat him.

1656
01:11:33,840 --> 01:11:36,280
Speaker 3: This year he gets it back. Scotland still having a

1657
01:11:36,280 --> 01:11:38,040
Speaker 3: good sporting weekends. Want to point that out.

1658
01:11:38,400 --> 01:11:42,519
Speaker 1: Bohalio sixteen and one as a professional, unbeaten in the UFC.

1659
01:11:43,160 --> 01:11:44,519
Speaker 1: Let's get this guy a big middleweight fight.

1660
01:11:44,560 --> 01:11:46,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's find out he earned a good opportunity with

1661
01:11:46,760 --> 01:11:47,000
Speaker 2: this one.

1662
01:11:47,000 --> 01:11:49,160
Speaker 3: Absolutely anyone else you want to shout out on this

1663
01:11:49,400 --> 01:11:51,640
Speaker 3: A weird stoppage in the Brito in Jack Shore fight,

1664
01:11:51,760 --> 01:11:54,840
Speaker 3: sure gets a big cut on his shin. Referees like, oh,

1665
01:11:54,840 --> 01:11:58,080
Speaker 3: it's fractured, they call it. Shore goes to the hospital,

1666
01:11:58,560 --> 01:12:00,800
Speaker 3: No fracture. They stitch him up and he's fine and

1667
01:12:00,840 --> 01:12:03,200
Speaker 3: he's on his way back. But it's loss. I feel

1668
01:12:03,280 --> 01:12:05,000
Speaker 3: very bad for Jack Shore. That sucks a lot.

1669
01:12:05,120 --> 01:12:06,200
Speaker 1: I could see his soul through.

1670
01:12:06,960 --> 01:12:08,439
Speaker 2: It was bad. It was a bad cut. It was

1671
01:12:08,479 --> 01:12:09,120
Speaker 2: a bad cut.

1672
01:12:09,360 --> 01:12:13,760
Speaker 3: Also, Elvis Brenner reversing, I'm gonna mispronounce his name Mike

1673
01:12:13,840 --> 01:12:17,840
Speaker 3: to beec Oralby the Donk from I think he's either

1674
01:12:17,840 --> 01:12:23,360
Speaker 3: Mongolian or where Yeah, uh oral By very very good grappling.

1675
01:12:23,439 --> 01:12:28,040
Speaker 3: But dude, Brenner had just the right kind of reversal grappling.

1676
01:12:28,080 --> 01:12:30,200
Speaker 3: Like like they were not equally good at takedowns, but

1677
01:12:30,200 --> 01:12:32,759
Speaker 3: one guy was very good at reversing, giving him tons

1678
01:12:32,800 --> 01:12:35,559
Speaker 3: of problems and then kind of surging late and also

1679
01:12:36,520 --> 01:12:39,240
Speaker 3: grabbing the fence, and they immediately take a point for it.

1680
01:12:39,600 --> 01:12:42,080
Speaker 3: Loved it, loved it, loved it, loved it. So in

1681
01:12:42,120 --> 01:12:43,559
Speaker 3: the end, or By gets the win. Good for him,

1682
01:12:43,560 --> 01:12:45,960
Speaker 3: he was better. Also, Jakar Clo is getting a nice

1683
01:12:45,960 --> 01:12:46,840
Speaker 3: win over walking himself.

1684
01:12:46,840 --> 01:12:48,479
Speaker 1: Well I'll see him soon on have you seen this?

1685
01:12:48,640 --> 01:12:50,400
Speaker 2: And that's really about it. There's just a few other.

1686
01:12:50,520 --> 01:12:52,479
Speaker 1: I gotta take a whiz really bad, and I'm just

1687
01:12:52,479 --> 01:12:54,559
Speaker 1: going through my own inner debacle looking at the clock

1688
01:12:54,600 --> 01:12:58,120
Speaker 1: and managing the pigeon with the ex can you I was,

1689
01:12:58,160 --> 01:13:00,960
Speaker 1: did you see where the Rock is in trouble? Because, uh,

1690
01:13:01,000 --> 01:13:03,559
Speaker 1: the Rock, you know, the Rock is getting panned for

1691
01:13:03,880 --> 01:13:05,479
Speaker 1: him kind of ruining action movies.

1692
01:13:05,520 --> 01:13:07,000
Speaker 2: And oh and then urinating bottles.

1693
01:13:07,080 --> 01:13:08,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, how he'd always show up nine hours late, and

1694
01:13:08,760 --> 01:13:11,000
Speaker 1: how he wouldn't want to break to take a whiz,

1695
01:13:11,000 --> 01:13:13,040
Speaker 1: so he would just break out the bottle at all

1696
01:13:13,120 --> 01:13:14,920
Speaker 1: points and like in front of people, and just.

1697
01:13:15,600 --> 01:13:17,479
Speaker 2: I feel like, is there a time and a place

1698
01:13:17,520 --> 01:13:17,840
Speaker 2: for that?

1699
01:13:18,160 --> 01:13:20,200
Speaker 1: Yes, So my grandfather used to bring one on the

1700
01:13:20,280 --> 01:13:20,840
Speaker 1: drive to Florida.

1701
01:13:20,880 --> 01:13:22,920
Speaker 3: I was gonna say, if you're a trucker and you

1702
01:13:23,040 --> 01:13:24,720
Speaker 3: just can't afford to stop and you gotta do the

1703
01:13:24,800 --> 01:13:27,000
Speaker 3: adult But do you remember that lady who had the

1704
01:13:27,000 --> 01:13:29,559
Speaker 3: love triangle? The NASA scientist who had the love triangle,

1705
01:13:29,840 --> 01:13:33,519
Speaker 3: And she she drove from Texas to Florida and she

1706
01:13:33,560 --> 01:13:35,280
Speaker 3: didn't want to stop, so she on a way to

1707
01:13:35,320 --> 01:13:38,960
Speaker 3: go confront her other. She wore depends so she wouldn't

1708
01:13:39,000 --> 01:13:41,160
Speaker 3: have to stop. You know what I'm saying, Why can't

1709
01:13:41,200 --> 01:13:42,120
Speaker 3: the rock just wear it depends?

1710
01:13:42,120 --> 01:13:44,040
Speaker 1: Why can't I just wear right now? So I was

1711
01:13:44,040 --> 01:13:46,479
Speaker 1: wondering if that was like the grossest thing you can

1712
01:13:46,520 --> 01:13:48,120
Speaker 1: do to people. But my grandfather used to do it

1713
01:13:48,160 --> 01:13:49,439
Speaker 1: and we all accepted it in the back of the

1714
01:13:49,520 --> 01:13:50,439
Speaker 1: van because yeah, but you're a.

1715
01:13:50,400 --> 01:13:55,280
Speaker 3: White trash all right, Okay, you're not white trash.

1716
01:13:55,479 --> 01:13:59,880
Speaker 1: Hey, well, I mean I grew up around it theovonn

1717
01:14:00,280 --> 01:14:02,200
Speaker 1: But yeah, I grew up brown. Did I do some people?

1718
01:14:02,520 --> 01:14:04,640
Speaker 2: Un it was two tank tops in the sun or

1719
01:14:04,680 --> 01:14:05,480
Speaker 2: the winner.

1720
01:14:05,280 --> 01:14:07,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, in a microphone, bills and cans. Yeah, there we go.

1721
01:14:07,840 --> 01:14:09,479
Speaker 1: All right, let's go to topic number five. Guys, it

1722
01:14:09,520 --> 01:14:14,160
Speaker 1: happened this morning Jesus Christ the first major professional boxing

1723
01:14:14,200 --> 01:14:18,240
Speaker 1: card in the Tokyo Dome since James Buster Douglas upset

1724
01:14:18,320 --> 01:14:21,679
Speaker 1: Mike Tyson in nineteen ninety. And it couldn't have happened

1725
01:14:21,680 --> 01:14:24,400
Speaker 1: here to a better superstar when you talk about my

1726
01:14:24,479 --> 01:14:27,599
Speaker 1: personal pump for pound king Entering this weekend, niu Wa

1727
01:14:27,640 --> 01:14:31,120
Speaker 1: a New Way, the four division champion, the undisputed Junior

1728
01:14:31,160 --> 01:14:34,439
Speaker 1: featherweight champion at one twenty two, joining Terrence Crawford, is

1729
01:14:34,479 --> 01:14:37,640
Speaker 1: going undisputed in two different weight classes. He's thirty one

1730
01:14:37,720 --> 01:14:40,160
Speaker 1: years old, He's at the peak of his powers and

1731
01:14:40,240 --> 01:14:43,080
Speaker 1: Monday morning in Tokyo, a new way needed to get

1732
01:14:43,200 --> 01:14:46,320
Speaker 1: up off the canvas in round one as he made

1733
01:14:46,320 --> 01:14:50,160
Speaker 1: an uncharacteristic technical error got caught with a vicious Connor

1734
01:14:50,240 --> 01:14:53,200
Speaker 1: left hand from Luis Snary, but all that did was

1735
01:14:53,280 --> 01:14:58,679
Speaker 1: make the monster mad. Three knockdowns later, a just brutal

1736
01:14:58,760 --> 01:15:03,400
Speaker 1: and systematic stoppage of Luis Nary, who brought swagger power

1737
01:15:03,520 --> 01:15:04,599
Speaker 1: balls to the equation.

1738
01:15:05,400 --> 01:15:06,759
Speaker 2: Luke bad blood.

1739
01:15:06,960 --> 01:15:09,720
Speaker 1: We bad blood a big by way, so Luis Snary was.

1740
01:15:09,760 --> 01:15:11,400
Speaker 1: We didn't even preview this fight like we should have,

1741
01:15:11,439 --> 01:15:13,439
Speaker 1: like donks are completely forgot and I got called out

1742
01:15:13,560 --> 01:15:15,559
Speaker 1: I think by that guy. I forgot the guy's name Ben,

1743
01:15:15,600 --> 01:15:18,040
Speaker 1: maybe his name was, but Luke here's the deal. Luis

1744
01:15:18,040 --> 01:15:19,960
Speaker 1: Snary in the past went to Japan when he was

1745
01:15:20,000 --> 01:15:25,639
Speaker 1: the bandonweight champion, fought shinski Ya Yamanaka uh knocked him out,

1746
01:15:25,880 --> 01:15:28,720
Speaker 1: failed peds for the for the fight, told everybody was

1747
01:15:28,720 --> 01:15:30,599
Speaker 1: tainted beef. They gave him another chance the next year

1748
01:15:30,640 --> 01:15:33,519
Speaker 1: to come into a rematch Nary missweight so badly still

1749
01:15:33,560 --> 01:15:35,840
Speaker 1: went out and destroyed him in Yamanaka in the rematch

1750
01:15:35,880 --> 01:15:38,080
Speaker 1: and knocked him out. They banned him from fighting in

1751
01:15:38,160 --> 01:15:39,360
Speaker 1: Japan and never getting a license.

1752
01:15:39,439 --> 01:15:40,519
Speaker 2: Yep, A new way went.

1753
01:15:40,439 --> 01:15:42,960
Speaker 1: To the commission was like, no, this guy's the next opponent.

1754
01:15:43,200 --> 01:15:45,120
Speaker 1: Lift the band for one fight and I'll take care

1755
01:15:45,160 --> 01:15:48,639
Speaker 1: of him. This turned out to be awesome to get, you.

1756
01:15:48,560 --> 01:15:52,240
Speaker 3: Know, and also Near talked a gang of shit about

1757
01:15:52,280 --> 01:15:53,320
Speaker 3: in a way.

1758
01:15:54,000 --> 01:15:56,960
Speaker 1: Was a war in the early going. So it's like,

1759
01:15:57,080 --> 01:16:01,479
Speaker 1: does this provide with a flat atop the mountain that

1760
01:16:01,560 --> 01:16:04,040
Speaker 1: thirty one year old Niowah Nue is not just a

1761
01:16:04,360 --> 01:16:06,720
Speaker 1: future like not just Hall of Famer or all time great,

1762
01:16:06,760 --> 01:16:09,320
Speaker 1: but like, seriously one of the most special fighters of

1763
01:16:09,360 --> 01:16:11,960
Speaker 1: this modern era. Did he use all of the power

1764
01:16:12,000 --> 01:16:13,840
Speaker 1: for pound credentials that make him great to put that

1765
01:16:13,880 --> 01:16:15,960
Speaker 1: flag down and say I'm still that guy number one?

1766
01:16:16,720 --> 01:16:18,680
Speaker 1: Or should there be red flags that he just went

1767
01:16:18,720 --> 01:16:21,200
Speaker 1: through an absolute war here in his fourth way class

1768
01:16:22,120 --> 01:16:24,320
Speaker 1: war it was, and early on it was. There was

1769
01:16:24,320 --> 01:16:24,960
Speaker 1: some back and forth.

1770
01:16:24,960 --> 01:16:26,759
Speaker 2: He got dropped in the first and then he dropped

1771
01:16:26,840 --> 01:16:28,479
Speaker 2: NEARI in the second and never looked back.

1772
01:16:28,840 --> 01:16:33,120
Speaker 1: So Is this a exclamation of him from his power

1773
01:16:33,160 --> 01:16:35,760
Speaker 1: for pound abilities? Or do you market against him after this?

1774
01:16:36,080 --> 01:16:36,960
Speaker 2: I don't market against him.

1775
01:16:36,960 --> 01:16:37,200
Speaker 5: I do.

1776
01:16:37,320 --> 01:16:39,639
Speaker 3: He stopped neary inside of six the old by the way,

1777
01:16:39,640 --> 01:16:41,799
Speaker 3: the old, the over under was six and a half,

1778
01:16:41,880 --> 01:16:42,640
Speaker 3: so he beat it.

1779
01:16:43,000 --> 01:16:43,479
Speaker 2: He took the.

1780
01:16:43,479 --> 01:16:47,439
Speaker 3: Under, he scored the under. I've been trying to figure

1781
01:16:47,479 --> 01:16:49,880
Speaker 3: out who do I put number one on my personal

1782
01:16:49,920 --> 01:16:51,679
Speaker 3: punp pound rakings. I don't expect this to be anything

1783
01:16:51,680 --> 01:16:54,080
Speaker 3: to anybody else. Everyone else can do this exercise for themself.

1784
01:16:54,240 --> 01:16:55,880
Speaker 3: Who is the best boxer alive? I don't think you

1785
01:16:55,880 --> 01:16:57,880
Speaker 3: need that disclaimer. People want to hear what's your opinion

1786
01:16:57,880 --> 01:16:58,479
Speaker 3: on powf Polemi?

1787
01:16:59,000 --> 01:17:00,599
Speaker 2: Okay, but I'm trying. I've been trying to figure it out.

1788
01:17:00,640 --> 01:17:02,760
Speaker 3: So after in the immediate aftermath, remember it was the

1789
01:17:02,800 --> 01:17:07,000
Speaker 3: same week where in a way beat Marlon Topaulos, Yes,

1790
01:17:07,000 --> 01:17:09,280
Speaker 3: and then Bud beat Spence.

1791
01:17:09,080 --> 01:17:13,439
Speaker 1: No anyway, be uh Fulton, What am I saying?

1792
01:17:13,560 --> 01:17:14,080
Speaker 2: I'm so sorry?

1793
01:17:14,200 --> 01:17:16,320
Speaker 3: Yes, that was a huge win and it was really

1794
01:17:16,360 --> 01:17:19,400
Speaker 3: really tough to say. But since then Bud hasn't competed.

1795
01:17:20,160 --> 01:17:22,000
Speaker 3: But I did think that that win was so epic,

1796
01:17:22,120 --> 01:17:23,320
Speaker 3: so special, so incredible.

1797
01:17:23,360 --> 01:17:24,280
Speaker 2: I had to give it to Bud.

1798
01:17:25,040 --> 01:17:26,680
Speaker 3: I don't know, but what Bud is going to do

1799
01:17:26,720 --> 01:17:30,240
Speaker 3: at one fifty four against Matdromov, I'll revisit this conversation then.

1800
01:17:30,960 --> 01:17:33,760
Speaker 3: But today, if someone said, what's your pound for pound ranking,

1801
01:17:33,760 --> 01:17:34,639
Speaker 3: who's number one?

1802
01:17:35,080 --> 01:17:36,080
Speaker 2: It's no way, in a way.

1803
01:17:36,560 --> 01:17:39,760
Speaker 3: What he has done today and what he seemingly does

1804
01:17:39,840 --> 01:17:48,280
Speaker 3: every time now is show absolute athletic precision, impeccable timing,

1805
01:17:49,080 --> 01:17:51,160
Speaker 3: showmanship which I don't think should be lost. I mean,

1806
01:17:51,160 --> 01:17:53,160
Speaker 3: the Japanese are certainly helping him with the production effort,

1807
01:17:53,160 --> 01:17:58,759
Speaker 3: but he plays into the moment certainly brutal knockout power,

1808
01:17:59,560 --> 01:18:04,160
Speaker 3: devastate understanding of what his opponent's gonna do taking it away,

1809
01:18:04,240 --> 01:18:07,240
Speaker 3: and your let me just say this, your margin of

1810
01:18:07,520 --> 01:18:10,719
Speaker 3: error with a guy like in a way is fucking

1811
01:18:11,080 --> 01:18:12,080
Speaker 3: dude nothing.

1812
01:18:12,320 --> 01:18:14,880
Speaker 1: Two of the knockdowns, two of the three total that

1813
01:18:14,920 --> 01:18:17,840
Speaker 1: he landed featured a new way backing up to the ropes,

1814
01:18:17,880 --> 01:18:21,280
Speaker 1: with his back against the ropes, waiting for Luis Nary

1815
01:18:21,360 --> 01:18:24,400
Speaker 1: to overextend on the combinations, and as soon as he does,

1816
01:18:24,600 --> 01:18:28,400
Speaker 1: and Nary squares himself up. Yeah, the shortest of left

1817
01:18:28,400 --> 01:18:31,320
Speaker 1: hooks on both occasions, just like.

1818
01:18:30,800 --> 01:18:32,920
Speaker 2: Like he doesn't even get full extension. It kind of

1819
01:18:32,960 --> 01:18:34,160
Speaker 2: just goes like this, just.

1820
01:18:34,080 --> 01:18:37,160
Speaker 1: Like just enough touch. The knockdown that he scored in

1821
01:18:37,240 --> 01:18:40,519
Speaker 1: round two, which from a scorecard momentum standpoint brought it

1822
01:18:40,600 --> 01:18:43,040
Speaker 1: even was just beautiful. It was like almost like a

1823
01:18:43,080 --> 01:18:47,080
Speaker 1: counter half jab, half hook, same scenario, guy rushing after him,

1824
01:18:47,520 --> 01:18:49,799
Speaker 1: just the touch to get the dropage in the knockdown,

1825
01:18:50,160 --> 01:18:52,360
Speaker 1: but then the systematic breakdown to the body. He went

1826
01:18:52,400 --> 01:18:55,200
Speaker 1: on to land twice as many punches as Nary and

1827
01:18:55,240 --> 01:18:57,920
Speaker 1: connected on nearly fifty percent of his power shot, same

1828
01:18:57,920 --> 01:18:59,719
Speaker 1: thing Canelo did, by the way against Monkey of fifty

1829
01:18:59,760 --> 01:19:03,559
Speaker 1: percent of his power shots. Incredible stat Yeah, he showed

1830
01:19:03,640 --> 01:19:05,639
Speaker 1: us everything in the pound for pound Arsenal. I don't

1831
01:19:05,680 --> 01:19:08,120
Speaker 1: hold the knockdown against him, even though Luke it was

1832
01:19:08,200 --> 01:19:11,839
Speaker 1: well studied on tape. It is a rare technical mistake

1833
01:19:11,920 --> 01:19:12,280
Speaker 1: that he makes.

1834
01:19:12,520 --> 01:19:14,280
Speaker 3: It doesn't make many of them, but he is a human,

1835
01:19:14,320 --> 01:19:16,599
Speaker 3: so he does make them, and it's been shown before

1836
01:19:16,760 --> 01:19:18,240
Speaker 3: on camera as well. I mean, this was not the

1837
01:19:18,280 --> 01:19:20,760
Speaker 3: first time he's had first time he's been dropped, but

1838
01:19:21,160 --> 01:19:22,960
Speaker 3: not the first time he's had a visible issue. He's

1839
01:19:23,000 --> 01:19:26,439
Speaker 3: not perfect. There are some there are some elements to

1840
01:19:26,520 --> 01:19:28,519
Speaker 3: him that could be worked on. But what I am

1841
01:19:28,560 --> 01:19:31,439
Speaker 3: going to say is, Dude, I mean, think about the

1842
01:19:31,439 --> 01:19:32,160
Speaker 3: final combination.

1843
01:19:32,640 --> 01:19:32,920
Speaker 2: Right.

1844
01:19:33,000 --> 01:19:35,720
Speaker 3: So he hits him with the uppercut with the right

1845
01:19:35,760 --> 01:19:38,360
Speaker 3: hand and in the process the timing on it, he

1846
01:19:38,439 --> 01:19:41,439
Speaker 3: hits them there's a left coming from neary. Usually when

1847
01:19:41,439 --> 01:19:43,719
Speaker 3: I hit the right uppercut. This is a famous Canelo punch.

1848
01:19:43,960 --> 01:19:48,120
Speaker 3: Canelo will me get it to my right, He'll jab uppercut. Also,

1849
01:19:48,200 --> 01:19:50,360
Speaker 3: he can then throw the left to the liver. It's

1850
01:19:50,400 --> 01:19:52,840
Speaker 3: one of his favorite He and Jose Sito Lopez a

1851
01:19:52,920 --> 01:19:55,120
Speaker 3: million times right, one of his favorite combinations.

1852
01:19:55,520 --> 01:19:57,760
Speaker 2: But here there is a bit of a He.

1853
01:19:57,800 --> 01:20:01,120
Speaker 3: Throws a left hand, gets an arrange, hits him with

1854
01:20:01,120 --> 01:20:04,880
Speaker 3: the right and waits just a beat for that left to.

1855
01:20:04,840 --> 01:20:06,400
Speaker 2: Come screaming around from neary.

1856
01:20:06,960 --> 01:20:09,759
Speaker 3: Same right hand on the upper cut goes bop bop

1857
01:20:09,800 --> 01:20:11,920
Speaker 3: and then comes around the corner. And then dude, when

1858
01:20:11,960 --> 01:20:15,200
Speaker 3: NEARI fell it just like like a like a balloon

1859
01:20:15,240 --> 01:20:20,400
Speaker 3: with the air being Yeah. His ability to make split

1860
01:20:20,640 --> 01:20:26,120
Speaker 3: second decisions is impressive and BC those split second decisions

1861
01:20:26,160 --> 01:20:30,280
Speaker 3: often carry astronomical consequences for his opponents.

1862
01:20:30,160 --> 01:20:33,439
Speaker 2: He's that two fer quick decisions that are powerful. They

1863
01:20:33,479 --> 01:20:34,519
Speaker 2: have no answer for it.

1864
01:20:34,600 --> 01:20:37,759
Speaker 1: Remember he was a he was an insane pro prodigy

1865
01:20:37,800 --> 01:20:39,720
Speaker 1: and a Lomachenko type. Way from the standpoint that he

1866
01:20:39,760 --> 01:20:41,960
Speaker 1: won a world title is six. Profight won a world

1867
01:20:42,000 --> 01:20:44,439
Speaker 1: title in a second division like his eighth. He's now

1868
01:20:44,520 --> 01:20:49,479
Speaker 1: up to four divisions, twice as undisputed. It's what we're

1869
01:20:49,520 --> 01:20:53,240
Speaker 1: watching here is something. The fact that he's carrying his power.

1870
01:20:53,479 --> 01:20:57,360
Speaker 1: I mean, even the great Chocolatito sort of leveled out

1871
01:20:57,160 --> 01:20:59,519
Speaker 1: at one p fifteen with his power, and he's reinvented

1872
01:20:59,560 --> 01:21:02,000
Speaker 1: himself there. But like when he hit that ceiling and

1873
01:21:02,120 --> 01:21:04,760
Speaker 1: was suddenly getting hurt and even dropped at times, we

1874
01:21:04,840 --> 01:21:06,360
Speaker 1: got to see the very best of him in that

1875
01:21:06,400 --> 01:21:08,800
Speaker 1: old age. Every time a new way steps up, he

1876
01:21:08,960 --> 01:21:11,360
Speaker 1: just shatters the ceiling above him, goes in there and

1877
01:21:11,439 --> 01:21:14,920
Speaker 1: just dismantles Fulton, goes in, you know, destroys to Paulus,

1878
01:21:14,960 --> 01:21:17,680
Speaker 1: destroys Paul Butler a couple of fights before that. Now

1879
01:21:17,720 --> 01:21:19,720
Speaker 1: it's looking like Australian Sam Goodman, who they brought in

1880
01:21:19,800 --> 01:21:21,280
Speaker 1: the ring, who is like eighteen and oh with eight

1881
01:21:21,360 --> 01:21:23,760
Speaker 1: KOs is the mandatory that he's next in a new way.

1882
01:21:23,720 --> 01:21:26,439
Speaker 1: It's just like yeah, fine, but like whenever, this is

1883
01:21:26,439 --> 01:21:28,160
Speaker 1: why you know that he's truly in all time great.

1884
01:21:28,160 --> 01:21:30,120
Speaker 1: It's not just the speed timing everything you just laid

1885
01:21:30,120 --> 01:21:33,120
Speaker 1: out when the chips are down in its go time.

1886
01:21:33,200 --> 01:21:35,599
Speaker 1: When he got his face broken against No Nito don

1887
01:21:35,600 --> 01:21:37,840
Speaker 1: Air in their first meeting in the third round and

1888
01:21:37,880 --> 01:21:39,679
Speaker 1: had to go the rest of the way and lean

1889
01:21:39,720 --> 01:21:42,880
Speaker 1: on his boxing, his chin, all of that, and in

1890
01:21:42,920 --> 01:21:45,360
Speaker 1: this fight when he got hit with a knockout, clean

1891
01:21:45,439 --> 01:21:49,200
Speaker 1: CounterPunch from a nasty knockout puncher, and what did a

1892
01:21:49,200 --> 01:21:51,840
Speaker 1: New Way do? Instantly got up, got his legs back

1893
01:21:51,880 --> 01:21:53,760
Speaker 1: under him and started turning the offense. In the same

1894
01:21:53,800 --> 01:21:55,880
Speaker 1: round back against Nary. But did you see the post

1895
01:21:55,960 --> 01:21:58,880
Speaker 1: fight interview, A New Way through the translator says, this

1896
01:21:58,920 --> 01:22:00,360
Speaker 1: is the greatest thing that ever happen to me that

1897
01:22:00,400 --> 01:22:02,120
Speaker 1: I got knocked out in the first round, because it

1898
01:22:02,160 --> 01:22:04,400
Speaker 1: brought me to a new level of focus the rest

1899
01:22:04,400 --> 01:22:07,960
Speaker 1: of the fight. And he said, I don't remember anything

1900
01:22:08,000 --> 01:22:10,360
Speaker 1: that's happened after that knockdown, And they kept coming back

1901
01:22:10,360 --> 01:22:11,519
Speaker 1: to them the review and being like, okay, so what

1902
01:22:11,520 --> 01:22:13,559
Speaker 1: about in this point when the momentum change, he was like,

1903
01:22:13,640 --> 01:22:15,759
Speaker 1: I just want to remind you guys, I don't remember anything.

1904
01:22:16,200 --> 01:22:18,559
Speaker 1: He just did all that on instinct today he did

1905
01:22:18,600 --> 01:22:21,320
Speaker 1: all that that we're talking about this sort of like crazy.

1906
01:22:21,520 --> 01:22:23,520
Speaker 2: He's a boxing computer.

1907
01:22:23,400 --> 01:22:26,240
Speaker 1: Just he is. I mean, look, he's really on his

1908
01:22:26,320 --> 01:22:29,839
Speaker 1: way to almost carving out his own unique historical legacy,

1909
01:22:29,960 --> 01:22:32,519
Speaker 1: right like he's Elvis in Japan. They say he just

1910
01:22:32,520 --> 01:22:34,519
Speaker 1: filled the Tokyo Doom with forty thousand people.

1911
01:22:34,360 --> 01:22:37,479
Speaker 3: On Monday, Monday, on a Monday. But you see, he's

1912
01:22:37,479 --> 01:22:39,960
Speaker 3: twenty seven and zero. He's been one years old. He's

1913
01:22:39,960 --> 01:22:42,679
Speaker 3: been in twenty two title fights, and in the twenty

1914
01:22:42,720 --> 01:22:45,439
Speaker 3: two title fights with all which he won, he's had

1915
01:22:45,479 --> 01:22:50,640
Speaker 3: twenty knockouts. Dude, you are dealing with somebody that just

1916
01:22:50,760 --> 01:22:53,400
Speaker 3: won't be around like this. Very often they will come

1917
01:22:53,439 --> 01:22:58,679
Speaker 3: around so rarely. Noya, in a way is the fucking man.

1918
01:22:58,960 --> 01:23:01,439
Speaker 1: I think as Greate Atnell, look and I'm fighting the

1919
01:23:01,439 --> 01:23:03,679
Speaker 1: battle that he's still in the conversation of the pound

1920
01:23:03,680 --> 01:23:05,479
Speaker 1: for pound best at the moment, I think it's a

1921
01:23:05,479 --> 01:23:08,200
Speaker 1: new way. Profit at number two, Canelo at number three,

1922
01:23:08,240 --> 01:23:10,160
Speaker 1: and then you bring in Usak in the heavyweight, you know.

1923
01:23:10,320 --> 01:23:11,200
Speaker 2: Put Usak ahead of him.

1924
01:23:11,240 --> 01:23:15,280
Speaker 3: But I will say this, can you quickly wig in

1925
01:23:15,320 --> 01:23:17,120
Speaker 3: on this debate that happened because of a comment that

1926
01:23:17,120 --> 01:23:19,080
Speaker 3: Sean Porter made Chelsea Shan Porter we love him on

1927
01:23:19,120 --> 01:23:20,880
Speaker 3: the show that he did make a comment I didn't

1928
01:23:20,880 --> 01:23:22,240
Speaker 3: agree with, and a lot of other people took issue

1929
01:23:22,280 --> 01:23:24,240
Speaker 3: with as well, which is he was saying, you know,

1930
01:23:24,320 --> 01:23:26,400
Speaker 3: for in a way to truly be a story has

1931
01:23:26,439 --> 01:23:27,800
Speaker 3: to fight in the United States or something to that.

1932
01:23:27,880 --> 01:23:30,880
Speaker 3: To that effect, there are something to be said for it.

1933
01:23:30,960 --> 01:23:32,600
Speaker 3: But what I will say is, bec how can you

1934
01:23:32,640 --> 01:23:35,599
Speaker 3: look at what he's doing yes, and say, oh, you're

1935
01:23:35,640 --> 01:23:38,559
Speaker 3: really missing out on the American experience. Would I love

1936
01:23:38,600 --> 01:23:39,040
Speaker 3: it if.

1937
01:23:38,960 --> 01:23:39,400
Speaker 2: He was here?

1938
01:23:39,479 --> 01:23:42,040
Speaker 3: Didn't he come twice to the States during the COVID times,

1939
01:23:42,120 --> 01:23:44,200
Speaker 3: you know, or I think right around then, and he

1940
01:23:44,240 --> 01:23:46,679
Speaker 3: fought on like a smaller theater, and then Bob Aaron

1941
01:23:46,720 --> 01:23:49,120
Speaker 3: was there. Bob was there in Tokyo too. But I'm

1942
01:23:49,120 --> 01:23:51,120
Speaker 3: just saying, listen, what I love to see him in

1943
01:23:51,120 --> 01:23:51,639
Speaker 3: the United States.

1944
01:23:51,640 --> 01:23:52,000
Speaker 2: That's a point.

1945
01:23:52,040 --> 01:23:54,800
Speaker 3: It's a point of viewing he's fighting on Mars. I

1946
01:23:54,840 --> 01:23:56,880
Speaker 3: don't think you can sell out the Tokyo Dome and

1947
01:23:56,920 --> 01:23:59,280
Speaker 3: be Elvis in Japan and be like, oh, he's got

1948
01:23:59,280 --> 01:23:59,840
Speaker 3: to come here.

1949
01:24:00,120 --> 01:24:01,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, he didn't have to.

1950
01:24:01,120 --> 01:24:03,280
Speaker 1: He calls the shots like he should be great The

1951
01:24:03,360 --> 01:24:06,280
Speaker 1: key he's going to need is what is that Horizon

1952
01:24:06,439 --> 01:24:08,479
Speaker 1: pay per view fight that he's going to get before

1953
01:24:08,520 --> 01:24:10,519
Speaker 1: the end of his career. That will be, you know,

1954
01:24:10,600 --> 01:24:13,559
Speaker 1: the definitive money maker in his career, but that can

1955
01:24:13,720 --> 01:24:17,000
Speaker 1: ultimately it's not fine his career. That's what I was

1956
01:24:17,040 --> 01:24:19,000
Speaker 1: leading to. Its Tanks team wants it to be him,

1957
01:24:19,080 --> 01:24:21,880
Speaker 1: but you know, Tanks fighting around one thirty five, probably

1958
01:24:21,880 --> 01:24:23,840
Speaker 1: closer to one to forty in the future, even if

1959
01:24:23,880 --> 01:24:26,320
Speaker 1: they did a catchway and Tank somehow got down to thirty,

1960
01:24:26,360 --> 01:24:27,320
Speaker 1: which I don't think.

1961
01:24:27,200 --> 01:24:28,439
Speaker 2: He has done that in four years here.

1962
01:24:28,520 --> 01:24:30,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, but then you're you're still asking a new way

1963
01:24:30,920 --> 01:24:33,120
Speaker 1: to come up an additional two weight classes in eight

1964
01:24:33,200 --> 01:24:36,040
Speaker 1: pounds from where he's at right now. I think he

1965
01:24:36,200 --> 01:24:38,439
Speaker 1: should and eventually will try the waters Out Father weight

1966
01:24:38,439 --> 01:24:40,320
Speaker 1: because I do think it's just sublime. And I think

1967
01:24:40,360 --> 01:24:42,280
Speaker 1: even if his power levels out, which it has not

1968
01:24:42,439 --> 01:24:44,800
Speaker 1: leveled out yet, he's got the boxing IQ and the

1969
01:24:44,840 --> 01:24:48,080
Speaker 1: ability to still be Pakio like and be explosive and

1970
01:24:48,160 --> 01:24:50,280
Speaker 1: quick in out work. Guys, I think that can still

1971
01:24:50,280 --> 01:24:50,639
Speaker 1: be the case.

1972
01:24:50,720 --> 01:24:53,400
Speaker 3: Here's what's interesting about him. He's a I like the

1973
01:24:53,439 --> 01:24:56,360
Speaker 3: pack comparison, but there's a big difference. Pakiao was a

1974
01:24:56,360 --> 01:24:59,200
Speaker 3: bit of a machine gun kind of volume guy, and

1975
01:24:59,240 --> 01:25:01,599
Speaker 3: in a way is like there might be three punches

1976
01:25:01,680 --> 01:25:05,240
Speaker 3: and the three that land all Land have thisstatingly lasting

1977
01:25:05,240 --> 01:25:07,120
Speaker 3: on this there's a videotop Rank posted. It's on their

1978
01:25:07,160 --> 01:25:09,680
Speaker 3: Instagram and it's on their Twitter. I posted it as well.

1979
01:25:09,720 --> 01:25:12,680
Speaker 3: I shared it where it's the it's the someone who

1980
01:25:12,720 --> 01:25:14,800
Speaker 3: had a cell phone in their ringside at the final

1981
01:25:14,840 --> 01:25:18,200
Speaker 3: sequence when in a way polishes off Neari and you

1982
01:25:18,280 --> 01:25:20,400
Speaker 3: hear the uppercut and then the hook Land.

1983
01:25:21,080 --> 01:25:23,639
Speaker 2: Dude, the sound of this fucking guy's punches.

1984
01:25:24,200 --> 01:25:26,759
Speaker 3: Yes, it is amplified by the fact that the Japanese

1985
01:25:26,840 --> 01:25:31,880
Speaker 3: watch combat sports like everyone watches tennis. Right even, dude,

1986
01:25:32,160 --> 01:25:34,519
Speaker 3: let's back up a step here. Neari is known as

1987
01:25:34,520 --> 01:25:37,200
Speaker 3: a big puncher, big known as a big puncher. The

1988
01:25:37,240 --> 01:25:38,360
Speaker 3: fact that he dropped him in the first I was

1989
01:25:38,400 --> 01:25:39,960
Speaker 3: kind of work because I, like du Nearick can thump.

1990
01:25:40,760 --> 01:25:43,639
Speaker 3: Even then, listen to the sound of Neery's punches Land

1991
01:25:44,240 --> 01:25:47,559
Speaker 3: versus in a ways, and remember Nari is the bigger

1992
01:25:47,560 --> 01:25:50,360
Speaker 3: guy essentially in this equation. And still, in a way, dude,

1993
01:25:50,400 --> 01:25:52,600
Speaker 3: it sound I'm not in any way accusing him of

1994
01:25:52,680 --> 01:25:53,320
Speaker 3: having loaded gloves.

1995
01:25:53,320 --> 01:25:54,680
Speaker 2: That's not what I'm saying, but.

1996
01:25:54,720 --> 01:25:57,759
Speaker 3: It sounds like that. It sounds like there's something extra

1997
01:25:57,840 --> 01:25:59,400
Speaker 3: in there that like, it just doesn't make sense.

1998
01:25:59,479 --> 01:26:03,080
Speaker 1: It's like when the camp miss major league prospect is playing,

1999
01:26:03,160 --> 01:26:04,880
Speaker 1: you know, high school ball two tons away from you,

2000
01:26:04,920 --> 01:26:06,840
Speaker 1: and you go there and you just just hear him

2001
01:26:06,840 --> 01:26:09,240
Speaker 1: ground out to shortstop and you're just like, what sound

2002
01:26:09,360 --> 01:26:11,639
Speaker 1: is that. I haven't heard that sound coming off that bat. Yeah,

2003
01:26:11,680 --> 01:26:14,559
Speaker 1: it's just something so next level. But the point is

2004
01:26:14,600 --> 01:26:18,320
Speaker 1: he has all the other tools as well. He truly

2005
01:26:18,479 --> 01:26:21,160
Speaker 1: is a living legend right now, and we see him

2006
01:26:21,160 --> 01:26:23,599
Speaker 1: continue at thirty one before we get into DMS from Donks.

2007
01:26:23,600 --> 01:26:25,240
Speaker 1: We're bringing it back this week. I want to apologize.

2008
01:26:25,240 --> 01:26:27,960
Speaker 1: There was a hiccup with us going to fan subs Friday.

2009
01:26:28,000 --> 01:26:29,519
Speaker 1: We did it from Sirius XM Studios.

2010
01:26:29,520 --> 01:26:29,640
Speaker 2: There.

2011
01:26:29,640 --> 01:26:31,479
Speaker 1: We had a great time at the win. We just

2012
01:26:31,840 --> 01:26:33,920
Speaker 1: the list got cut off. I didn't realize there was more.

2013
01:26:33,920 --> 01:26:35,639
Speaker 1: We didn't play some videos that were part of it.

2014
01:26:35,800 --> 01:26:37,479
Speaker 1: We're gonna fix that in the future. Correct, We're gonna

2015
01:26:37,479 --> 01:26:39,880
Speaker 1: come back with fan subs and do it the right way. Yes, okay,

2016
01:26:40,160 --> 01:26:41,000
Speaker 1: that's what the fans want.

2017
01:26:41,120 --> 01:26:42,160
Speaker 2: You're going to do it the right way.

2018
01:26:42,200 --> 01:26:44,439
Speaker 1: Well, this week we gave you the chance Sunday night

2019
01:26:44,479 --> 01:26:47,599
Speaker 1: on Instagram on our post at Morning Combat to respond

2020
01:26:47,600 --> 01:26:50,280
Speaker 1: with your questions that you want answered on this show

2021
01:26:50,520 --> 01:26:53,919
Speaker 1: based on the weekend that was. This one's called DMS

2022
01:26:54,439 --> 01:27:03,599
Speaker 1: from Donks. Is that noise? Donkey sex or like like

2023
01:27:03,640 --> 01:27:04,320
Speaker 1: pre vomit?

2024
01:27:05,200 --> 01:27:06,080
Speaker 2: You're a cat?

2025
01:27:06,160 --> 01:27:08,639
Speaker 1: Like? Yeah, like a like a hair ball? It's gross

2026
01:27:08,640 --> 01:27:09,120
Speaker 1: either way?

2027
01:27:09,200 --> 01:27:11,880
Speaker 2: Right, it really is disturbing. All right.

2028
01:27:11,960 --> 01:27:13,840
Speaker 1: The first one we got here is from Cole Brown

2029
01:27:14,000 --> 01:27:16,960
Speaker 1: eight five eight. What are your thoughts on Michelle Pereira's

2030
01:27:17,160 --> 01:27:20,760
Speaker 1: backflip and should he have been penalized for kneeing and

2031
01:27:20,880 --> 01:27:24,360
Speaker 1: kicking a down opponent Luke? Today Pereira would win his

2032
01:27:24,520 --> 01:27:27,840
Speaker 1: I think was a seventh consecutive fight across this long

2033
01:27:27,880 --> 01:27:30,000
Speaker 1: wind streak, and he took care of that donk in

2034
01:27:30,080 --> 01:27:35,080
Speaker 1: like less than two minutes. Was it legal against ehorre Potierra.

2035
01:27:36,040 --> 01:27:38,160
Speaker 3: I'm gonna be a big part of me doesn't care

2036
01:27:38,200 --> 01:27:43,000
Speaker 3: because I just don't have an interest in watching Potieria fight.

2037
01:27:43,080 --> 01:27:45,040
Speaker 3: He's got a weird style that I just don't care for.

2038
01:27:45,160 --> 01:27:47,360
Speaker 2: You like Pereira, Uh, he's growing on me.

2039
01:27:47,400 --> 01:27:49,599
Speaker 1: He's definitely grown and he went to that guillotine quick

2040
01:27:50,080 --> 01:27:50,599
Speaker 1: grow choke.

2041
01:27:50,880 --> 01:27:53,200
Speaker 2: I said this, I kind of stand by it. Dude.

2042
01:27:53,400 --> 01:27:55,640
Speaker 2: There are exceptions. I'm not saying there's not exceptions.

2043
01:27:56,520 --> 01:27:59,000
Speaker 3: If you get standing guillotined in the UFC, I'm not

2044
01:27:59,000 --> 01:27:59,960
Speaker 3: sure you should be in the U.

2045
01:28:00,320 --> 01:28:02,559
Speaker 1: Wow, are you just calling that white belt shit?

2046
01:28:03,520 --> 01:28:05,880
Speaker 3: I'm not saying he is one. But like, dude, the

2047
01:28:05,920 --> 01:28:09,600
Speaker 3: reality of like, why does a guillotine work under normal circumstances.

2048
01:28:09,880 --> 01:28:11,400
Speaker 3: It's not just the choke you're putting on, but the

2049
01:28:11,479 --> 01:28:15,200
Speaker 3: legs you're using. Hold on a second, do it a.

2050
01:28:15,360 --> 01:28:17,639
Speaker 1: Fucking in Jesus, I'm holding tight over here.

2051
01:28:18,479 --> 01:28:20,080
Speaker 3: What I was gonna say was you have to use

2052
01:28:20,120 --> 01:28:22,479
Speaker 3: the legs to also control their hips, and so that's

2053
01:28:22,520 --> 01:28:24,880
Speaker 3: it's the two fur that gets you going. Or if

2054
01:28:24,880 --> 01:28:26,720
Speaker 3: you do a you can do a standing gillotine and

2055
01:28:26,760 --> 01:28:29,519
Speaker 3: then press them into the fence and the fence assists you.

2056
01:28:29,800 --> 01:28:37,479
Speaker 3: But if your hands are free and your feet are free.

2057
01:28:35,800 --> 01:28:37,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, why are you Why do I have to take

2058
01:28:37,360 --> 01:28:37,960
Speaker 1: I'll be right back.

2059
01:28:38,000 --> 01:28:40,000
Speaker 3: Look, why don't you just take to point out? Dude,

2060
01:28:40,080 --> 01:28:43,120
Speaker 3: just go pee on yourself. Just pee on yourself, all right,

2061
01:28:43,240 --> 01:28:45,840
Speaker 3: this fucking unprofessional dirt bag. Look at him, look a

2062
01:28:45,920 --> 01:28:48,479
Speaker 3: look at this fucking ape. All right, give me the

2063
01:28:48,479 --> 01:28:48,920
Speaker 3: next question.

2064
01:28:48,960 --> 01:28:51,200
Speaker 2: I'll do this one dolo, as Sean Price would say,

2065
01:28:52,240 --> 01:28:53,280
Speaker 2: what have we got here? All right?

2066
01:28:53,560 --> 01:28:59,120
Speaker 3: From Joshua l Eventhal or levels hell even thal Joshua

2067
01:28:59,200 --> 01:29:03,599
Speaker 3: Levenhal with both Aljo and Max again the word both

2068
01:29:03,760 --> 01:29:07,320
Speaker 3: recently moving up and finding great success. What two adjacent

2069
01:29:07,360 --> 01:29:09,720
Speaker 3: weight classes do you think provide the most potential for

2070
01:29:09,840 --> 01:29:11,320
Speaker 3: dynamic new matchmaking?

2071
01:29:12,280 --> 01:29:12,479
Speaker 2: Wait?

2072
01:29:12,479 --> 01:29:17,080
Speaker 3: Wait, throw up one more time. What two adjacent weight

2073
01:29:17,080 --> 01:29:19,559
Speaker 3: classes do you think? Again? I think the one that

2074
01:29:19,640 --> 01:29:22,000
Speaker 3: you see here. I think you can get from one

2075
01:29:22,080 --> 01:29:24,200
Speaker 3: forty five to one fifty five A little bit of

2076
01:29:24,200 --> 01:29:27,360
Speaker 3: that for sure. Yeah, it's gonna be there. I think

2077
01:29:27,400 --> 01:29:30,200
Speaker 3: that I think that that little nexus between one thirty five,

2078
01:29:30,520 --> 01:29:33,080
Speaker 3: I should say, among one thirty five, one forty five

2079
01:29:33,160 --> 01:29:36,040
Speaker 3: and then one fifty five. That seems to me in

2080
01:29:36,080 --> 01:29:39,320
Speaker 3: terms of body type differences, in terms of size differences,

2081
01:29:39,680 --> 01:29:41,960
Speaker 3: again by virtue of them being only ten pounds, it's

2082
01:29:41,960 --> 01:29:44,280
Speaker 3: somewhat mitigated. Flyweight tends to be a little bit too small.

2083
01:29:44,280 --> 01:29:46,840
Speaker 3: But Sean O'Malley, I think a big size bantam weight

2084
01:29:46,880 --> 01:29:48,920
Speaker 3: could go up. I interviewed Ivan Flores to coach of

2085
01:29:49,000 --> 01:29:51,400
Speaker 3: Max Holloway, and he even told me they sort of

2086
01:29:51,439 --> 01:29:54,360
Speaker 3: consider Taporia a blown up bantam weight. So I actually

2087
01:29:54,360 --> 01:29:56,519
Speaker 3: do think there's a fair amount of that. I don't

2088
01:29:56,520 --> 01:29:58,479
Speaker 3: think it's really going to be middleweight and light heavyweight.

2089
01:29:58,520 --> 01:30:00,760
Speaker 3: You can do talent answers, but I don't know if

2090
01:30:00,760 --> 01:30:02,920
Speaker 3: you get the best kind or even one fifty five

2091
01:30:02,960 --> 01:30:04,479
Speaker 3: and one seventy. You could throw one fifty five in

2092
01:30:04,520 --> 01:30:07,960
Speaker 3: this conversation as well, but that's your story as part

2093
01:30:08,000 --> 01:30:09,679
Speaker 3: of this one. But that's really it, just one thirty

2094
01:30:09,720 --> 01:30:12,160
Speaker 3: five to one fifty five, all right? Next, fuck Brian

2095
01:30:12,160 --> 01:30:17,920
Speaker 3: Campbell from It's Not Cage Fighting, inspired by Erse's performance

2096
01:30:17,920 --> 01:30:21,439
Speaker 3: at three zero one, which unranked or low ranked fighters

2097
01:30:21,479 --> 01:30:25,160
Speaker 3: ten to fifteen do you think could give their champion problems?

2098
01:30:25,200 --> 01:30:27,560
Speaker 3: It's a great question. So let's pull up the rankings

2099
01:30:28,200 --> 01:30:32,200
Speaker 3: and I think, did you pee on yourself?

2100
01:30:33,200 --> 01:30:33,720
Speaker 2: You should have?

2101
01:30:33,880 --> 01:30:37,000
Speaker 3: All right, b See, the question is what guys or

2102
01:30:37,040 --> 01:30:40,040
Speaker 3: girls ranked ten to fifteen should be really eleven to

2103
01:30:40,080 --> 01:30:43,040
Speaker 3: fifteen is what they really mean could give their champions

2104
01:30:43,120 --> 01:30:44,759
Speaker 3: problems in their respective weight classes?

2105
01:30:44,800 --> 01:30:45,120
Speaker 2: Ready?

2106
01:30:45,600 --> 01:30:48,360
Speaker 1: Was I unprofessional or relatable with this scenario?

2107
01:30:48,520 --> 01:30:49,200
Speaker 2: A little bit of both?

2108
01:30:49,320 --> 01:30:50,040
Speaker 1: Okay, thank you?

2109
01:30:50,479 --> 01:30:50,799
Speaker 2: Okay.

2110
01:30:51,080 --> 01:30:54,040
Speaker 3: Here, Could Matt Schnell beat out Pentojia? Probably not, No

2111
01:30:54,320 --> 01:30:57,800
Speaker 3: to gear Uhlambakov, I don't think so. Tetsuro Tira not

2112
01:30:57,920 --> 01:31:00,840
Speaker 3: right now yet, not yet, not yet, but long term

2113
01:31:00,880 --> 01:31:04,080
Speaker 3: potential is there some maderg No, David Dvorak, No, okay?

2114
01:31:04,360 --> 01:31:06,240
Speaker 3: At one thirty five, could any of these guys beat

2115
01:31:06,240 --> 01:31:10,599
Speaker 3: Sean O'Malley, Dominic Cruz. Probably not Jonathan Martinez. That's gonna

2116
01:31:10,600 --> 01:31:13,120
Speaker 3: be replaced by Jose Aldough. So that's a maybe. It's

2117
01:31:13,120 --> 01:31:19,280
Speaker 3: a maybe. Mario Bautista, No, Ricky Simon, no Pedro Muno's no, okay?

2118
01:31:19,320 --> 01:31:22,000
Speaker 3: Who could be Iliot Taporia? You see Edsen Barboza According

2119
01:31:22,000 --> 01:31:25,599
Speaker 3: to you, no one I said right now, that's not forever.

2120
01:31:26,320 --> 01:31:30,439
Speaker 3: His time will, dude, his time will come too, Edsen Barboza.

2121
01:31:30,800 --> 01:31:34,799
Speaker 3: No Bryce Mitchell. We already saw that one. Dan Egay.

2122
01:31:34,920 --> 01:31:37,600
Speaker 2: I like Dan, but no Diego Lopez, no sadik yusuf No,

2123
01:31:37,720 --> 01:31:38,240
Speaker 2: you don't think.

2124
01:31:38,160 --> 01:31:40,400
Speaker 1: Diego Lopez could have an outside shot of making a

2125
01:31:40,400 --> 01:31:40,920
Speaker 1: title run here?

2126
01:31:40,960 --> 01:31:44,320
Speaker 3: Outside shot, outside shot. Yeah, yes, he's a maybe. I'll

2127
01:31:44,320 --> 01:31:46,280
Speaker 3: put him as a maybe, all right? For one fifty five?

2128
01:31:46,360 --> 01:31:51,600
Speaker 3: Dan Hooker no Jalen Turner outside shot unlikely. Ben was

2129
01:31:51,760 --> 01:31:54,240
Speaker 3: sint denis not right now, but maybe he will fight

2130
01:31:54,280 --> 01:31:57,000
Speaker 3: for a world title. And dosan Jos in his prime

2131
01:31:57,200 --> 01:31:59,400
Speaker 3: was a champion, but not right now. Bobby Green no

2132
01:31:59,680 --> 01:32:01,560
Speaker 3: once seventy, Joaquin.

2133
01:32:01,200 --> 01:32:04,679
Speaker 2: Buckley getting closer, yeah closer.

2134
01:32:04,760 --> 01:32:08,120
Speaker 3: Neil Magne no, Michael Page probably not, Vicente Luk know,

2135
01:32:08,200 --> 01:32:12,200
Speaker 3: and then Kevin Holland probably not all right, hamsat Chimaya yes,

2136
01:32:12,920 --> 01:32:16,679
Speaker 3: Anthony Hernandez yes, or outside chain. Maybe he's a dude

2137
01:32:16,800 --> 01:32:20,439
Speaker 3: fluffy maybe the most underrated five.

2138
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Speaker 1: He's not underrated.

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Speaker 2: Paul Craig No, Kyle Bohlio not yet.

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01:32:24,120 --> 01:32:26,639
Speaker 3: Chris Curtis probably not, but he could make it fun

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01:32:26,680 --> 01:32:27,679
Speaker 3: almost on two a five.

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Speaker 2: Alonzo Minifield No. Bogged In Guskov No.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if anyone else ade the top six configury.

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Speaker 3: There's nobody at two of five that's going to come close.

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01:32:35,240 --> 01:32:40,320
Speaker 3: And then lastly at heavyweight, Rosenstrike no, Derek Lewis, no Romanov.

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01:32:40,080 --> 01:32:41,519
Speaker 1: No tread City in there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah no, I'll just leave it at that. But you

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Speaker 2: get the idea, all right.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's keep it going here. Thank you for picking.

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Speaker 2: There's a couple.

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Speaker 1: There's a couple of year inentarry problems. Thank you.

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Speaker 2: Next time you need to just wear it de pens Well,

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Speaker 2: I mean like a real man.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it took a lot to put Humpy

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01:32:53,040 --> 01:32:55,360
Speaker 1: Dumpty back together again for the show. So there we

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Speaker 1: go with that. Let's go to question number four from

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Speaker 1: Landlord six two eight five interesting handle Jones versus Pereira

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Speaker 1: is the heavyweight title fight to make? Historic fight? Aspinall

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01:33:06,680 --> 01:33:08,439
Speaker 1: is the future of the division anyway?

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01:33:08,520 --> 01:33:09,760
Speaker 2: Are we doing skits and bits here?

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01:33:09,880 --> 01:33:12,720
Speaker 1: Jones? Fight or not? Change my mind? What are we

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01:33:12,840 --> 01:33:16,160
Speaker 1: doing here? Okay? So this landlord read what he wrote?

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01:33:16,720 --> 01:33:19,479
Speaker 1: I did? I did? Is the future of this are

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01:33:19,560 --> 01:33:24,800
Speaker 1: we what are we doing here? Thank you? Team read

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01:33:24,800 --> 01:33:26,800
Speaker 1: it apparently, but look what is he actually asking? So

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Speaker 1: he's saying, Jones versus Pereira is the heavyweight fight to make.

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01:33:29,240 --> 01:33:30,000
Speaker 1: It's a historic fight.

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Speaker 2: Dude, I am so tired of this bullshit argument.

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01:33:32,880 --> 01:33:34,200
Speaker 1: Well I don't even know what his argument is.

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Speaker 3: Now hold on, here he goes, John is a legend

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01:33:37,720 --> 01:33:41,280
Speaker 3: and if he wants to fight X or Y, he

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01:33:41,360 --> 01:33:43,719
Speaker 3: can do it. And my answer to that is yes,

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01:33:43,920 --> 01:33:46,760
Speaker 3: of course if he doesn't want to fight Aspinall and

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01:33:46,800 --> 01:33:50,559
Speaker 3: he wants to fight Poeton. We have been very clear.

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01:33:50,600 --> 01:33:51,880
Speaker 3: Do you want to see that fight? I would love

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01:33:51,880 --> 01:33:54,920
Speaker 3: to see that fight. I'm not against that fight. Guys,

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01:33:55,280 --> 01:33:59,640
Speaker 3: how the I cannot stand it. I cannot fucking.

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01:33:59,400 --> 01:34:01,519
Speaker 1: Oh no standing he's about to cook.

2179
01:34:02,120 --> 01:34:06,080
Speaker 2: When when MMA fans shit on boxing.

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01:34:05,960 --> 01:34:08,160
Speaker 3: This guy's the champ, how come he's not fighting this

2181
01:34:08,200 --> 01:34:10,120
Speaker 3: guy or this guy's the this and how come that's

2182
01:34:10,160 --> 01:34:10,759
Speaker 3: not happening?

2183
01:34:10,920 --> 01:34:13,559
Speaker 2: You know why? Because in MMA, that shit doesn't fly.

2184
01:34:13,640 --> 01:34:15,320
Speaker 3: We don't have a million weight classes, we don't have

2185
01:34:15,360 --> 01:34:17,080
Speaker 3: a bunch of champions not defending titles.

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01:34:17,120 --> 01:34:18,519
Speaker 2: And then when.

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01:34:18,400 --> 01:34:20,519
Speaker 3: A fighter comes around that for whatever reason you like

2188
01:34:20,560 --> 01:34:23,080
Speaker 3: or just like, but this case, you like, we'll just

2189
01:34:23,240 --> 01:34:24,120
Speaker 3: let's just do boxing.

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01:34:24,120 --> 01:34:26,080
Speaker 2: Shit. Let's just throw out the rules.

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01:34:26,320 --> 01:34:30,240
Speaker 3: Let's just completely ignore precedent, let's ignore architecture, Let's create

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01:34:30,320 --> 01:34:32,880
Speaker 3: problems because we just fucking feel like it.

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01:34:33,280 --> 01:34:35,639
Speaker 2: Fuck off, Fuck off.

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01:34:36,240 --> 01:34:41,720
Speaker 3: If you're Memo, if you're wearing a belt, you have

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01:34:42,080 --> 01:34:46,360
Speaker 3: responsibilities to that weight class. So if you don't want

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01:34:46,400 --> 01:34:48,920
Speaker 3: those responsibilities, fine.

2197
01:34:48,720 --> 01:34:51,120
Speaker 1: And if you're an adult male wearing a championship belt

2198
01:34:51,120 --> 01:34:53,120
Speaker 1: to a pro wrestling event, you better be prepared to

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Speaker 1: defend it.

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01:34:53,680 --> 01:34:58,519
Speaker 3: Exactly right there, exactly right Yeah, there's two guys in

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01:34:58,560 --> 01:35:04,720
Speaker 3: this division wearing belts. There isn't any mystery about what

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01:35:05,200 --> 01:35:06,840
Speaker 3: fight to fucking make.

2203
01:35:07,800 --> 01:35:08,960
Speaker 1: We know what it is.

2204
01:35:10,360 --> 01:35:13,800
Speaker 3: So either take that one and keep the belt, or

2205
01:35:13,960 --> 01:35:15,040
Speaker 3: let go of the belt and.

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01:35:15,000 --> 01:35:16,800
Speaker 2: Take whatever fight you want.

2207
01:35:17,560 --> 01:35:24,000
Speaker 3: But if you've got the belt, you've got obligations, fucking period.

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01:35:24,439 --> 01:35:27,879
Speaker 2: It's not mysterious. It's not up for debate.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, landlord underwater Lopez to you too, our final

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01:35:34,600 --> 01:35:41,000
Speaker 1: fuck All right, Sarah Ski, neighborhood kids off your lawn

2211
01:35:41,240 --> 01:35:43,719
Speaker 1: while you're working out, then that would be better appreciated

2212
01:35:43,720 --> 01:35:49,000
Speaker 1: from Omar Underscar underscore, VARs Canelo's entrances are always entertaining.

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01:35:49,080 --> 01:35:52,759
Speaker 1: Yesterday's I would say, wasn't too over the top. What's

2214
01:35:52,920 --> 01:35:56,479
Speaker 1: things that boxing can take from UFC to present the

2215
01:35:56,560 --> 01:36:01,200
Speaker 1: product and vice versa. I mean, would you agree with

2216
01:36:01,240 --> 01:36:05,639
Speaker 1: Ariel's general beef that boxing press conferences, notoriously boring, should

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01:36:05,680 --> 01:36:12,240
Speaker 1: take on a more exciting UFC like presentation. I don't questions, no, no, no, no, no, okay,

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01:36:12,680 --> 01:36:13,920
Speaker 1: because I don't disagree with this.

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01:36:14,200 --> 01:36:18,200
Speaker 3: I okay, So the actual entertainment in the arena, I

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01:36:18,240 --> 01:36:19,799
Speaker 3: don't think boxing can take anything.

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01:36:21,080 --> 01:36:23,680
Speaker 1: Pace would be nice again, quicker pace in general on

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01:36:23,960 --> 01:36:24,679
Speaker 1: boxing cards.

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01:36:25,520 --> 01:36:29,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, sure, fine, fine, quicker pace could be okay, I mean, yeah, okay,

2224
01:36:29,040 --> 01:36:31,360
Speaker 3: there's a couple of things, but relatively minor.

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01:36:31,920 --> 01:36:34,080
Speaker 2: On the press conference, I do agree that UFC pressers

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01:36:34,080 --> 01:36:35,519
Speaker 2: and by the way, I'll say, you know what, I'll

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01:36:35,520 --> 01:36:37,000
Speaker 2: back that up a little bit. I'll back that up.

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Speaker 3: I do like that, for example, the presser, excuse me,

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01:36:41,160 --> 01:36:43,480
Speaker 3: the wigh ends will be outside like in Toshiba plazas,

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01:36:43,840 --> 01:36:46,000
Speaker 3: and I think UFC could do a little bit more

2231
01:36:46,000 --> 01:36:47,720
Speaker 3: of that. They don't do enough quite enough of that.

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01:36:47,720 --> 01:36:50,160
Speaker 3: That's something that both can learn. But I would also

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01:36:50,160 --> 01:36:53,240
Speaker 3: say that the pace of UFC weigh ins boxing could

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01:36:53,240 --> 01:36:55,400
Speaker 3: pick up from for sure, that I would agree with,

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01:36:55,800 --> 01:36:57,960
Speaker 3: as well as the pressers. They could be a little

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01:36:58,000 --> 01:37:01,040
Speaker 3: bit more controlled. But this idea that like you should

2237
01:37:01,040 --> 01:37:03,760
Speaker 3: invite the fans, guys, I don't mind it if they

2238
01:37:03,800 --> 01:37:06,200
Speaker 3: want to give fans the opportunity to ask questions, But

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01:37:06,240 --> 01:37:08,559
Speaker 3: that's the only time the fans should be there. If

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01:37:08,560 --> 01:37:11,479
Speaker 3: it's a press conference, it's for the press. If the

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01:37:11,560 --> 01:37:14,960
Speaker 3: press is there to serve as an entertainment vehicle for

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01:37:15,160 --> 01:37:18,600
Speaker 3: the fans in attendance, it's a pep rally call it

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01:37:18,640 --> 01:37:19,040
Speaker 3: what it.

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01:37:18,960 --> 01:37:23,960
Speaker 1: Is, sure, But entrance wise, I do think Canelo just

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01:37:23,960 --> 01:37:27,360
Speaker 1: has these like timeless, epically awesome pro Mexican entrances with

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01:37:27,400 --> 01:37:28,840
Speaker 1: the mariachi band and the hip.

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01:37:28,920 --> 01:37:31,080
Speaker 2: Would you say this one was would you say the

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01:37:31,080 --> 01:37:33,160
Speaker 2: one with John Ryder and Guadalajara was better?

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01:37:33,360 --> 01:37:33,519
Speaker 1: Yes?

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01:37:33,600 --> 01:37:34,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would agree with that.

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01:37:34,520 --> 01:37:36,920
Speaker 1: Did you see the walkout from Mario Barrios who was

2252
01:37:36,960 --> 01:37:38,719
Speaker 1: in the pay per view Comane on the Canelo card.

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01:37:38,840 --> 01:37:40,720
Speaker 1: He comes out with the Aztec warrior vibe and all

2254
01:37:40,720 --> 01:37:42,920
Speaker 1: the dancers and the traditions say it was great.

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Speaker 2: So what I mean it's like, what could you what

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01:37:44,320 --> 01:37:45,559
Speaker 2: could boxing learn from that?

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01:37:45,560 --> 01:37:48,120
Speaker 1: When he does YEFC already does that in the big

2258
01:37:48,160 --> 01:37:50,320
Speaker 1: events they allow, they seem to for the big really

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01:37:50,360 --> 01:37:53,200
Speaker 1: big pay per views, allow more of a choreographed entrance.

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01:37:53,280 --> 01:37:58,680
Speaker 1: Whether it's fair, you know, very little. Would you like

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01:37:58,720 --> 01:38:00,240
Speaker 1: to see that more? Would you like to see them

2262
01:38:00,280 --> 01:38:02,519
Speaker 1: given free pride reign to just come out and do skin.

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01:38:02,600 --> 01:38:04,640
Speaker 3: I mean, I understand if the UFC doesn't want to

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01:38:04,680 --> 01:38:08,040
Speaker 3: do that for every fighter or like you know, only

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01:38:08,040 --> 01:38:10,880
Speaker 3: for main event guys or something like that, I think

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01:38:11,000 --> 01:38:14,840
Speaker 3: keeping a lid on it is probably okay but they

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01:38:14,920 --> 01:38:16,720
Speaker 3: keep too much of a lid on it is what

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01:38:16,720 --> 01:38:17,320
Speaker 3: I would argue.

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01:38:17,360 --> 01:38:19,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, you don't want to become the no fun league, right,

2270
01:38:19,320 --> 01:38:21,240
Speaker 1: you want to? You want to? Still, did you watch

2271
01:38:21,280 --> 01:38:23,080
Speaker 1: the Dana White roast of Tom Brady. I didn't get

2272
01:38:23,120 --> 01:38:24,600
Speaker 1: I was unable to put those clips. And have you

2273
01:38:24,640 --> 01:38:24,920
Speaker 1: seen this?

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01:38:25,000 --> 01:38:26,439
Speaker 2: I went to bed last night at eight thirty.

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01:38:26,520 --> 01:38:28,960
Speaker 1: Okay, they got Dana a few times, the comedians in

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01:38:29,040 --> 01:38:29,680
Speaker 1: terms of I.

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Speaker 3: Did see that. He had to make a comment about

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01:38:31,439 --> 01:38:32,200
Speaker 3: the liberal media.

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01:38:32,439 --> 01:38:35,920
Speaker 1: Oh, it was like the entire identity.

2280
01:38:35,560 --> 01:38:38,679
Speaker 2: Is like identity politics. Now that's his entire identity.

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01:38:38,720 --> 01:38:40,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's where we're at, all right. Thank you to

2282
01:38:40,600 --> 01:38:43,600
Speaker 1: our dms from donks, our fans. Don't forget that morningcombat

2283
01:38:43,640 --> 01:38:46,880
Speaker 1: at gmail dot com right now is your email home

2284
01:38:46,920 --> 01:38:49,680
Speaker 1: to reach the show with your fan subs. What else

2285
01:38:49,720 --> 01:38:50,680
Speaker 1: do people send in on that?

2286
01:38:50,920 --> 01:38:52,160
Speaker 2: Oh? Pornography?

2287
01:38:52,960 --> 01:38:54,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't even know who's on the other end.

2288
01:38:54,720 --> 01:38:56,559
Speaker 1: Mikey used to be I don't know who is these days,

2289
01:38:56,560 --> 01:38:58,160
Speaker 1: but send in. We're gonna do more fans up, so

2290
01:38:58,160 --> 01:39:00,200
Speaker 1: get them right. I'll present them the right way. We'll

2291
01:39:00,200 --> 01:39:02,639
Speaker 1: do it right. Thank you guys as always for having

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01:39:02,640 --> 01:39:05,200
Speaker 1: our back. We close Today's Monday episode, though with a

2293
01:39:05,600 --> 01:39:08,920
Speaker 1: with a traditional classic segment. Luke me scouring the globe

2294
01:39:08,960 --> 01:39:10,240
Speaker 1: for the highs and lows, the good, the bad, the

2295
01:39:10,320 --> 01:39:13,719
Speaker 1: ugly in between. In the world of combats abuse and beyond.

2296
01:39:13,800 --> 01:39:16,320
Speaker 1: Sometimes it's elderly abuse, but we call it. Have you

2297
01:39:16,400 --> 01:39:27,920
Speaker 1: seen this shit? Friday's UFC Way and Show, and he

2298
01:39:28,080 --> 01:39:32,240
Speaker 1: O brought out some traditional Brazilian dancers and watch Annik

2299
01:39:32,400 --> 01:39:36,200
Speaker 1: DC and Uncle Dean Thomas get down here, Luke river

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01:39:36,280 --> 01:39:36,760
Speaker 1: dance style.

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01:39:36,920 --> 01:39:39,160
Speaker 3: Right, So I will tell you that you ever taken

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01:39:39,200 --> 01:39:42,559
Speaker 3: a samba class. No, I took a somba class one time,

2303
01:39:42,600 --> 01:39:46,439
Speaker 3: because I've taken salsa classes and samba, dude, Samba is the.

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01:39:46,360 --> 01:39:48,600
Speaker 2: Hardest of them all. Like it's not.

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01:39:48,760 --> 01:39:52,599
Speaker 3: It's so salsa. Salsa is easy compared to samba.

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01:39:52,680 --> 01:39:55,840
Speaker 1: Okay, this is get a little dirty dancing style.

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01:39:55,880 --> 01:39:57,719
Speaker 2: I'm just looking at their thongs.

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01:39:57,720 --> 01:39:59,160
Speaker 1: Okay, there you go.

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01:39:59,320 --> 01:39:59,960
Speaker 2: I'm gonna pretend.

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01:40:00,160 --> 01:40:02,679
Speaker 1: Good fun had by all. But we had a great

2311
01:40:02,720 --> 01:40:06,439
Speaker 1: face off. Speaking of let's effing go Scotland, Paul Craig

2312
01:40:07,200 --> 01:40:10,000
Speaker 1: and Kyle borralhol painted their faces.

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01:40:10,160 --> 01:40:11,120
Speaker 2: That's exactly his name.

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01:40:11,200 --> 01:40:14,040
Speaker 1: Scotland and Brazil, respectively. Luke and we had a let's

2315
01:40:14,080 --> 01:40:15,320
Speaker 1: fucking go Scotland.

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01:40:15,080 --> 01:40:16,880
Speaker 2: Great face off, Great face off.

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01:40:18,640 --> 01:40:21,240
Speaker 1: Kis Kyle didn't bend at all from this, Luke. He

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01:40:21,360 --> 01:40:22,759
Speaker 1: was not intimidated by Scotland.

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01:40:22,800 --> 01:40:24,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, you know what I gotta say, great face off,

2320
01:40:24,880 --> 01:40:26,680
Speaker 3: although the glasses kind of take away from it.

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01:40:26,800 --> 01:40:28,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, to some degree a little bit. We got the

2322
01:40:29,000 --> 01:40:32,400
Speaker 1: DM from Donk about the full Michelle padeda experience. Let's

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01:40:32,439 --> 01:40:36,559
Speaker 1: relive this fight with ihor Potiera. Oh first, sorry, First,

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01:40:36,600 --> 01:40:37,840
Speaker 1: we had this at the way and this is from

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01:40:37,840 --> 01:40:40,479
Speaker 1: the Dana whitecam. This guy's just full on me.

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01:40:40,920 --> 01:40:44,439
Speaker 3: He is so athletic, it's unbelievable. These kip ups that

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01:40:44,479 --> 01:40:46,000
Speaker 3: he's doing are ridiculous.

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01:40:46,160 --> 01:40:47,800
Speaker 1: There's not even anyone there in the crowd and he's

2329
01:40:47,840 --> 01:40:48,840
Speaker 1: just like pulling out the.

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01:40:48,760 --> 01:40:50,360
Speaker 2: Full more people on stage.

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01:40:50,600 --> 01:40:52,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, well he brought that same energy, Luke when he

2332
01:40:52,840 --> 01:40:56,320
Speaker 1: needed just fifty four seconds to spaz out Potiera. Here

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01:40:56,360 --> 01:40:58,160
Speaker 1: by by submission, let's get a look at some of

2334
01:40:58,160 --> 01:40:58,719
Speaker 1: the highlights.

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01:40:58,800 --> 01:41:00,519
Speaker 2: So he drops him, which is great, and then he's like,

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01:41:00,520 --> 01:41:01,519
Speaker 2: you know what, fuck passing guard.

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01:41:01,560 --> 01:41:05,320
Speaker 1: Normally I cannot become legal because that's just stupidly insane.

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01:41:05,360 --> 01:41:06,200
Speaker 1: It's got to be legal.

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01:41:06,280 --> 01:41:07,439
Speaker 2: Here's what I was gonna say.

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01:41:07,640 --> 01:41:10,120
Speaker 3: That would be one of the shots that you actually

2341
01:41:10,120 --> 01:41:12,240
Speaker 3: would not want, or the knee of ahead of it

2342
01:41:12,640 --> 01:41:13,040
Speaker 3: for the head.

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01:41:13,080 --> 01:41:15,000
Speaker 1: Basically, I say, if you can do the backflip, then

2344
01:41:15,040 --> 01:41:15,960
Speaker 1: whatever happens happens.

2345
01:41:17,760 --> 01:41:19,960
Speaker 2: That's a rule that's good for fraternity houses. I don't

2346
01:41:19,960 --> 01:41:22,240
Speaker 2: know if it's good for the UFC. The reality is

2347
01:41:22,240 --> 01:41:24,599
Speaker 2: that you would know from experience, you would. I would.

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01:41:24,720 --> 01:41:26,479
Speaker 3: I'm gonna say, is you want if you're gonna let

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01:41:26,520 --> 01:41:28,479
Speaker 3: someone on the ground take a shot, you want their

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01:41:28,479 --> 01:41:30,760
Speaker 3: head to have and their neck to have flextion. So

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01:41:30,840 --> 01:41:32,679
Speaker 3: if I shoot on you and I and you greet

2352
01:41:32,720 --> 01:41:35,880
Speaker 3: me with a knee, my head can go back. But

2353
01:41:35,960 --> 01:41:38,719
Speaker 3: if I'm laying on the ground, my head can't recoil.

2354
01:41:39,240 --> 01:41:41,480
Speaker 3: So then you take everything as a consequence.

2355
01:41:41,479 --> 01:41:43,280
Speaker 1: I'm not It's not a soccer kick. I don't want

2356
01:41:43,280 --> 01:41:45,960
Speaker 1: a soccer kick, but I think you should be allowed

2357
01:41:45,960 --> 01:41:46,720
Speaker 1: a little bit more.

2358
01:41:46,760 --> 01:41:48,519
Speaker 3: I'm gonna say it one more time. I just don't

2359
01:41:48,560 --> 01:41:50,800
Speaker 3: like Potieria's game, So I just don't mind.

2360
01:41:50,840 --> 01:41:51,360
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?

2361
01:41:51,560 --> 01:41:54,160
Speaker 1: You know I love and pop When reel recognizes real

2362
01:41:54,200 --> 01:41:55,960
Speaker 1: in this show, how about backstage at three oh one,

2363
01:41:56,000 --> 01:41:58,559
Speaker 1: with this w e C reunion when Uncle Faber comes

2364
01:41:58,600 --> 01:42:01,479
Speaker 1: in to hug Joe's I love these living legends, Luke.

2365
01:42:01,520 --> 01:42:03,760
Speaker 1: It just brings back like our not our childhood, but

2366
01:42:03,840 --> 01:42:07,880
Speaker 1: our are more, you know, intimately young MMA fan.

2367
01:42:08,439 --> 01:42:11,439
Speaker 2: People just don't know. And then Andre pittanierus.

2368
01:42:10,840 --> 01:42:13,800
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, from a club Shoot the Box.

2369
01:42:14,760 --> 01:42:18,439
Speaker 3: Uh he is the I think he controlled or does

2370
01:42:18,520 --> 01:42:19,879
Speaker 3: still control Shooto Brazil.

2371
01:42:20,080 --> 01:42:22,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just making but he's not from Shoot the Box.

2372
01:42:22,160 --> 01:42:28,000
Speaker 1: No, like I know. Okay, all right, mister g HB himself.

2373
01:42:28,120 --> 01:42:31,839
Speaker 1: Rufie came through with this, uh scissor sweep on Jamie Malarkey.

2374
01:42:31,960 --> 01:42:36,559
Speaker 3: Not a scissor sweep. Wow, it's a leg scissors. They're different.

2375
01:42:36,600 --> 01:42:38,679
Speaker 1: Well, you always say off camera that you can't wait

2376
01:42:38,720 --> 01:42:40,639
Speaker 1: for the day when two fighters in the UFC finally

2377
01:42:40,640 --> 01:42:44,800
Speaker 1: scissor each other. You got it right here, Luke. I

2378
01:42:44,840 --> 01:42:47,560
Speaker 1: mean it was a good highlight, right, isn'tas Is that

2379
01:42:47,640 --> 01:42:49,639
Speaker 1: the same move that Anderson Silva got caught with? Yes,

2380
01:42:50,680 --> 01:42:54,760
Speaker 1: that was I was gonna say, Ryo Chanan, look at that.

2381
01:42:54,760 --> 01:42:57,599
Speaker 2: They can put the little green screen there. Not bad.

2382
01:42:57,960 --> 01:42:59,760
Speaker 1: We should get some elderly death in the middle of

2383
01:42:59,760 --> 01:43:01,599
Speaker 1: their something, Luke let's go over to your car.

2384
01:43:01,880 --> 01:43:03,120
Speaker 2: Just just want to be very quick.

2385
01:43:03,400 --> 01:43:06,280
Speaker 3: If something is a sweep, that is a reversal of

2386
01:43:06,400 --> 01:43:10,439
Speaker 3: position from some form of guard, there has to be

2387
01:43:10,560 --> 01:43:13,120
Speaker 3: use of a guard otherwise it is not a sweep.

2388
01:43:13,439 --> 01:43:17,040
Speaker 3: Sweeps are different than reversals, and that is a takedown.

2389
01:43:17,360 --> 01:43:19,719
Speaker 3: So everyone can shut the fuck up about that, please.

2390
01:43:19,800 --> 01:43:21,800
Speaker 1: All right, wow, all right, let's close on the UFC

2391
01:43:21,920 --> 01:43:25,599
Speaker 1: at three oh one. Here's your car close slamming himself

2392
01:43:25,640 --> 01:43:27,479
Speaker 1: out of a guillotine. Look, have you ever seen this?

2393
01:43:27,560 --> 01:43:29,599
Speaker 3: So the reason why you haven't seen this is because

2394
01:43:29,600 --> 01:43:33,080
Speaker 3: he basically slams himself into mounted guillotine.

2395
01:43:33,280 --> 01:43:35,879
Speaker 1: But it worked, It only worked it Yes.

2396
01:43:35,760 --> 01:43:37,720
Speaker 2: Okay, it worked. It worked this time.

2397
01:43:37,800 --> 01:43:39,639
Speaker 1: You're saying sixty percent of the time that it works,

2398
01:43:39,640 --> 01:43:42,200
Speaker 1: it works every time, or something like are we going, oh,

2399
01:43:42,280 --> 01:43:44,479
Speaker 1: you don't do you don't do? Uh? Anchorman?

2400
01:43:44,560 --> 01:43:47,479
Speaker 3: I forgot Anchorman. Here we go, put the camera ready.

2401
01:43:48,960 --> 01:43:52,559
Speaker 3: Anchorman not a funny movie. That's a movie for two

2402
01:43:52,600 --> 01:43:55,719
Speaker 3: thousand and five. It was come on, Anchorman, let me here,

2403
01:43:55,720 --> 01:43:58,800
Speaker 3: listen to me. Anchorman is a movie for simpletons.

2404
01:43:59,280 --> 01:44:00,840
Speaker 2: Okay, there we go as the frat boy.

2405
01:44:01,120 --> 01:44:03,360
Speaker 1: Hey, let's keep it going. You know, that blessed, highly

2406
01:44:03,360 --> 01:44:06,080
Speaker 1: favored song that just can't get out of anyone's head.

2407
01:44:06,320 --> 01:44:09,280
Speaker 1: There's a new music video for its, starring Oscar de

2408
01:44:09,360 --> 01:44:12,360
Speaker 1: la Hoya and his significant other, Holly Saunders. Did you

2409
01:44:12,400 --> 01:44:13,760
Speaker 1: see this is real? I'm not doing a bit, This

2410
01:44:13,840 --> 01:44:16,000
Speaker 1: is this really happened over the weekend. Let's watch it.

2411
01:44:18,400 --> 01:44:26,560
Speaker 4: Humbliss Hally favors Umbleish, Hally fav be Umbless, Hally favora

2412
01:44:27,160 --> 01:44:35,160
Speaker 4: Sou's Taylor, Humbless, Hally favors Umbless, Hally faves Umbless, Hally

2413
01:44:35,200 --> 01:44:38,120
Speaker 4: favor Ya Sou's Taylor.

2414
01:44:39,040 --> 01:44:40,479
Speaker 2: Wake, come into my job.

2415
01:44:40,760 --> 01:44:42,920
Speaker 4: I'm under properly playing Gunny Closer.

2416
01:44:42,640 --> 01:44:46,479
Speaker 1: The guy Luke. Oscar put in his own character video

2417
01:44:46,600 --> 01:44:50,280
Speaker 1: here a small man, a what would you call it?

2418
01:44:50,280 --> 01:44:51,080
Speaker 2: A little person?

2419
01:44:51,200 --> 01:44:54,400
Speaker 1: Little person wearing fishnets, which calls back to one of

2420
01:44:54,439 --> 01:44:59,800
Speaker 1: Oscar's greatest hits. So he's having fun with himself. What

2421
01:44:59,840 --> 01:45:02,360
Speaker 1: are you make of that? I mean he is both

2422
01:45:02,400 --> 01:45:05,040
Speaker 1: plussed and highly favored. It would seem Luke.

2423
01:45:05,000 --> 01:45:08,120
Speaker 2: But I think someone needs to throw carbonic acid in

2424
01:45:08,200 --> 01:45:08,599
Speaker 2: my face.

2425
01:45:08,680 --> 01:45:11,479
Speaker 1: Did you see Oscar's lady showed up at the way

2426
01:45:11,520 --> 01:45:13,479
Speaker 1: in with that full body nude suit.

2427
01:45:14,000 --> 01:45:15,880
Speaker 2: I did see it. I didn't see it. I didn't

2428
01:45:15,880 --> 01:45:17,120
Speaker 2: see it, but for you sending.

2429
01:45:16,840 --> 01:45:18,160
Speaker 1: It to me, yeah, I think they would shut us

2430
01:45:18,160 --> 01:45:21,080
Speaker 1: down if we played it. But it's a full body dress,

2431
01:45:21,200 --> 01:45:23,680
Speaker 1: so she makes it so she was clothed, but but

2432
01:45:23,760 --> 01:45:27,360
Speaker 1: the pattern shows breasts and and I was.

2433
01:45:27,320 --> 01:45:31,040
Speaker 3: Like, I don't know what the what is Oscar doing?

2434
01:45:31,160 --> 01:45:33,400
Speaker 3: And why did he have like little people boxing for

2435
01:45:33,439 --> 01:45:33,960
Speaker 3: no reason?

2436
01:45:34,760 --> 01:45:37,680
Speaker 1: She just ther suits tailored. I mean, it just it

2437
01:45:37,680 --> 01:45:39,320
Speaker 1: won't leave your body.

2438
01:45:39,680 --> 01:45:41,479
Speaker 2: It's not gonna anyway stick.

2439
01:45:41,560 --> 01:45:44,720
Speaker 1: Okay, speaking of really weird things captured on tape in

2440
01:45:44,760 --> 01:45:49,839
Speaker 1: Las Vegas this weekend, here is the announcement for morob

2441
01:45:49,960 --> 01:46:07,000
Speaker 1: versus O'Malley at the Sphere. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah

2442
01:46:07,040 --> 01:46:07,760
Speaker 1: ye yeah yeah.

2443
01:46:20,720 --> 01:46:24,479
Speaker 2: So where's the drive by shooters when you need one?

2444
01:46:25,520 --> 01:46:25,880
Speaker 1: Wow?

2445
01:46:27,560 --> 01:46:28,120
Speaker 2: I love the smell.

2446
01:46:28,640 --> 01:46:32,840
Speaker 1: Not the real Sugar has been aggressively posting a lot

2447
01:46:32,840 --> 01:46:34,800
Speaker 1: of fun socials lately. But what do you make of

2448
01:46:34,800 --> 01:46:39,280
Speaker 1: that fake face off turning into a dance sequence flash mob?

2449
01:46:39,439 --> 01:46:43,040
Speaker 2: I I don't know, I'm not the target audience.

2450
01:46:43,120 --> 01:46:46,160
Speaker 1: Okay, there you go. All right, Well, Luke uh Reel

2451
01:46:46,240 --> 01:46:48,640
Speaker 1: did recognize real in the Las Vegas gym at the

2452
01:46:48,640 --> 01:46:51,959
Speaker 1: Capatillos Here when Canelo Alpha is warming up for Saturday's

2453
01:46:52,040 --> 01:46:54,559
Speaker 1: monkey fight, got some ring time in with good old

2454
01:46:54,640 --> 01:46:57,200
Speaker 1: Jorge Mosfeedoll who's boxing the IDAs on June first.

2455
01:46:57,320 --> 01:46:59,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, look at that. That's pretty cool.

2456
01:46:59,000 --> 01:47:02,880
Speaker 1: Actually, indeed, so you can see him showing the uh give.

2457
01:47:02,800 --> 01:47:04,320
Speaker 2: Him pointers and some tips.

2458
01:47:04,320 --> 01:47:06,559
Speaker 3: I mean, listen, if you're a Jorge mass butt all,

2459
01:47:06,600 --> 01:47:08,519
Speaker 3: you could do a lot worse than trending with Cannelo

2460
01:47:08,560 --> 01:47:09,560
Speaker 3: Ova indeed.

2461
01:47:09,240 --> 01:47:11,839
Speaker 1: And and Capaitillo. There was a part of Team Canelo

2462
01:47:11,880 --> 01:47:14,320
Speaker 1: over the weekend. Is that ruins the gym? Yeah, he's

2463
01:47:14,320 --> 01:47:15,880
Speaker 1: been working with UR. He's been working with a lot

2464
01:47:15,880 --> 01:47:16,640
Speaker 1: of different people in like a.

2465
01:47:16,640 --> 01:47:18,320
Speaker 2: Second, have you ever interviewed him?

2466
01:47:18,560 --> 01:47:20,519
Speaker 1: Oh, he was on the Baddest Tour, but I didn't

2467
01:47:20,560 --> 01:47:21,599
Speaker 1: get like a wee should maybe.

2468
01:47:21,439 --> 01:47:23,120
Speaker 2: Talk to him. Sounds like he might have some cool stories.

2469
01:47:23,160 --> 01:47:24,800
Speaker 1: Indeed, indeed, he's worked with a lot of different people,

2470
01:47:24,800 --> 01:47:27,080
Speaker 1: including Brandon Marino. He was in his he won the

2471
01:47:27,080 --> 01:47:27,599
Speaker 1: title against.

2472
01:47:27,600 --> 01:47:29,640
Speaker 3: So there's not many guys who can cross MMA in

2473
01:47:29,680 --> 01:47:30,920
Speaker 3: boxing and be accepted in both.

2474
01:47:30,920 --> 01:47:32,120
Speaker 2: He seems like Dewey.

2475
01:47:31,920 --> 01:47:34,720
Speaker 1: Cooper another one, that's right. Indeed, Okay, let's keep it

2476
01:47:34,760 --> 01:47:38,320
Speaker 1: going here, Canelo Mongia time here is Canelo and Tank

2477
01:47:38,439 --> 01:47:40,679
Speaker 1: Davis sharing love. This is the first time they've met

2478
01:47:40,680 --> 01:47:43,559
Speaker 1: in person, and it was real recognizing, real, a lot

2479
01:47:43,600 --> 01:47:44,240
Speaker 1: of love for the two.

2480
01:47:44,320 --> 01:47:46,680
Speaker 2: Wow, two of the best.

2481
01:47:46,920 --> 01:47:48,960
Speaker 1: I love when they just look at each other and go, yeah,

2482
01:47:48,960 --> 01:47:50,120
Speaker 1: I know what you got, I know what I got.

2483
01:47:50,120 --> 01:47:52,519
Speaker 1: We're special. That's like when you and I, you know, like,

2484
01:47:52,680 --> 01:47:54,280
Speaker 1: you know what fists before the show.

2485
01:47:54,160 --> 01:47:56,719
Speaker 3: And like tak Davis is he's he's kind of salty.

2486
01:47:56,760 --> 01:47:58,920
Speaker 3: He's been friendly to me. Oh he went after Frank

2487
01:47:58,960 --> 01:48:01,000
Speaker 3: Martin at the press rounds. I Oh my god, dude,

2488
01:48:01,000 --> 01:48:02,519
Speaker 3: I've been that presser was crazy. But I was gonna say,

2489
01:48:02,520 --> 01:48:05,840
Speaker 3: that's like when you see Davis talk about like, for example,

2490
01:48:05,880 --> 01:48:07,240
Speaker 3: have you ever seen clips have been talking about in

2491
01:48:07,280 --> 01:48:08,240
Speaker 3: a way Yes, he.

2492
01:48:08,160 --> 01:48:09,799
Speaker 2: Doesn't talk about in a way respect.

2493
01:48:09,800 --> 01:48:11,639
Speaker 3: So when you see when you see Davis talking very

2494
01:48:11,640 --> 01:48:13,840
Speaker 3: praiseworthy and mild about someone that's pretty rare and tells

2495
01:48:13,840 --> 01:48:14,479
Speaker 3: you it's real, all right.

2496
01:48:14,520 --> 01:48:17,679
Speaker 1: Next one is outside T Mobile Arena before Saturday's fights.

2497
01:48:17,680 --> 01:48:24,560
Speaker 1: We teased it earlier. Here's Caleb Plant and Edgar berlinga jawing.

2498
01:48:22,439 --> 01:48:26,760
Speaker 2: I talked like and then you know, I.

2499
01:48:28,479 --> 01:48:32,519
Speaker 1: Don't know business already, promise he said, we don't get

2500
01:48:32,520 --> 01:48:34,360
Speaker 1: the Canelo bite, then we gonna run it. Now, that's

2501
01:48:34,400 --> 01:48:37,799
Speaker 1: what you said, prom's I'll promise, promise.

2502
01:48:38,960 --> 01:48:40,320
Speaker 2: I'm taking glasses.

2503
01:48:40,400 --> 01:48:40,680
Speaker 5: I'm not.

2504
01:48:41,800 --> 01:48:46,320
Speaker 4: I'm not right, I'm not.

2505
01:48:45,120 --> 01:48:52,640
Speaker 1: I'm not, dude. Caleb Plant wants the smoke from everyone.

2506
01:48:52,920 --> 01:48:55,200
Speaker 1: You remember when he put his hands on Jamal Charlow

2507
01:48:55,200 --> 01:48:57,160
Speaker 1: for Charlo pulling on the beard. Do you see Charlo's

2508
01:48:57,240 --> 01:48:59,120
Speaker 1: apology video? That was really weird that he just.

2509
01:48:59,080 --> 01:49:01,280
Speaker 2: Put out the video. I did see that. He apologized.

2510
01:49:01,320 --> 01:49:02,560
Speaker 1: He was just like, all right, you cool, okay, A

2511
01:49:02,560 --> 01:49:05,760
Speaker 1: lib I had it coming. Now he's chasing after Berlanga aggressively.

2512
01:49:05,960 --> 01:49:08,000
Speaker 1: You could hear Edgar there. He thinks he's getting Canelo

2513
01:49:08,000 --> 01:49:08,400
Speaker 1: in the fall.

2514
01:49:09,960 --> 01:49:10,360
Speaker 2: Hope not.

2515
01:49:10,680 --> 01:49:13,040
Speaker 1: He said, I'll knock you out next. Caleb Plant wins that.

2516
01:49:13,000 --> 01:49:16,400
Speaker 2: Fight, Plant versus Berlanga. I'm watched. I'll watch that one. Plant.

2517
01:49:16,560 --> 01:49:18,800
Speaker 3: I think Plant smokes them though. Do you I think

2518
01:49:18,840 --> 01:49:20,679
Speaker 3: I think Plant does to him what he did to Durell?

2519
01:49:20,840 --> 01:49:22,599
Speaker 1: You have respect for Plant like I do. Like where

2520
01:49:22,640 --> 01:49:23,840
Speaker 1: he's just about that life.

2521
01:49:23,920 --> 01:49:25,439
Speaker 2: He's about that life, and he's technical.

2522
01:49:26,160 --> 01:49:28,240
Speaker 3: He's technical, he believes in himself and he should like Okay,

2523
01:49:28,240 --> 01:49:30,839
Speaker 3: he came up short against Canelo, came up short against Benavida,

2524
01:49:30,960 --> 01:49:32,719
Speaker 3: So what Yes, this fucking guys.

2525
01:49:32,479 --> 01:49:33,880
Speaker 1: Were tough, all right. I want you to focus on

2526
01:49:33,880 --> 01:49:35,760
Speaker 1: the craft of Canelo. Here here is round four, just

2527
01:49:35,800 --> 01:49:39,320
Speaker 1: as Mongia was firing up, Canelo dropped him. He did

2528
01:49:39,320 --> 01:49:41,000
Speaker 1: add that left hook to the body on the way down.

2529
01:49:41,000 --> 01:49:42,559
Speaker 1: But it's that right upper cut looke.

2530
01:49:42,400 --> 01:49:44,760
Speaker 3: J But look very closely. So this is guard manipulation.

2531
01:49:45,200 --> 01:49:48,040
Speaker 3: So if you look closely, Canelo doesn't it's not a

2532
01:49:48,120 --> 01:49:49,840
Speaker 3: left hook. I mean it is a left hook. But

2533
01:49:49,880 --> 01:49:51,200
Speaker 3: if you notice what he does with the left deck,

2534
01:49:51,200 --> 01:49:54,320
Speaker 3: he pulls the guard down because Mungia is like this,

2535
01:49:54,720 --> 01:49:56,479
Speaker 3: so when he pulls the guard down, it opens it

2536
01:49:56,560 --> 01:49:58,160
Speaker 3: up and he can slide right through in the middle.

2537
01:49:58,200 --> 01:50:00,639
Speaker 3: So that's one thing that was killing me about Mumia.

2538
01:50:00,760 --> 01:50:02,840
Speaker 3: Mungia never So for example.

2539
01:50:02,439 --> 01:50:04,360
Speaker 2: Who do you have you ever seen any of my

2540
01:50:04,360 --> 01:50:04,880
Speaker 2: tape studies.

2541
01:50:04,920 --> 01:50:06,800
Speaker 1: I know you don't watch him, but not enough b

2542
01:50:06,960 --> 01:50:09,639
Speaker 1: sing those you know, just really they're lacking this sugar.

2543
01:50:09,680 --> 01:50:12,479
Speaker 3: And one of the guys who's like really dedicated about

2544
01:50:12,479 --> 01:50:16,080
Speaker 3: guard manipulation is Errol Spence. He will pull and pin

2545
01:50:16,280 --> 01:50:18,960
Speaker 3: and pull and turn with it a lot, and Canelo

2546
01:50:19,040 --> 01:50:21,880
Speaker 3: did it and then fired it. Mungia never does it,

2547
01:50:21,920 --> 01:50:24,000
Speaker 3: and I was like, dude, you're not going to get

2548
01:50:24,040 --> 01:50:26,280
Speaker 3: opened otherwise, you got to pull the hand down on

2549
01:50:26,400 --> 01:50:28,559
Speaker 3: beautiful punch fantastic punks like.

2550
01:50:28,520 --> 01:50:31,519
Speaker 1: The one that Manny caught Marquez with in their second

2551
01:50:31,560 --> 01:50:33,599
Speaker 1: fight early, and that knockdown was the difference in that

2552
01:50:33,720 --> 01:50:35,600
Speaker 1: very close fight where it just kind of threw it

2553
01:50:35,680 --> 01:50:38,200
Speaker 1: so tight at an awkward angle. What that uppercut was

2554
01:50:38,240 --> 01:50:39,200
Speaker 1: just non traditional.

2555
01:50:39,479 --> 01:50:41,759
Speaker 3: This is what this is what I mean Canelo, Canelo

2556
01:50:41,920 --> 01:50:44,640
Speaker 3: creating lanes to punch rather than just waiting around for

2557
01:50:44,680 --> 01:50:45,920
Speaker 3: a lane w to be opened.

2558
01:50:46,240 --> 01:50:49,599
Speaker 1: After the fight, when we talked about Canelo originally sounding

2559
01:50:49,680 --> 01:50:51,519
Speaker 1: like he wasn't into the day of Benavida's fight, but

2560
01:50:51,560 --> 01:50:53,760
Speaker 1: then talking about the money right before that interview with

2561
01:50:53,800 --> 01:50:58,120
Speaker 1: Jim Gray, here's Canelo pointing, come on at Benavita's and saying, right.

2562
01:50:58,000 --> 01:50:59,760
Speaker 2: Here, don't do this if you're not going to take

2563
01:50:59,800 --> 01:51:00,559
Speaker 2: the luke.

2564
01:51:00,640 --> 01:51:02,880
Speaker 1: I'm starting to believe that he is going to take

2565
01:51:02,920 --> 01:51:05,280
Speaker 1: the fight, but that it's more just a leverage thing

2566
01:51:05,320 --> 01:51:06,840
Speaker 1: and it's like a big brother thing, like he doesn't

2567
01:51:06,880 --> 01:51:09,840
Speaker 1: want Benavida to like dictate it again, I hope we're

2568
01:51:09,880 --> 01:51:10,720
Speaker 1: not going to try to.

2569
01:51:12,400 --> 01:51:12,559
Speaker 3: Hope.

2570
01:51:12,760 --> 01:51:13,400
Speaker 2: I hope you're right.

2571
01:51:13,680 --> 01:51:15,920
Speaker 1: I hope it's September, because that's that's the biggest fight

2572
01:51:15,920 --> 01:51:17,880
Speaker 1: you can make in boxing, right right, isn't it? Isn't

2573
01:51:17,880 --> 01:51:19,839
Speaker 1: that the biggest fight you can make in boxing? Right now?

2574
01:51:21,160 --> 01:51:23,840
Speaker 1: What do you think Fury Joshua is bigger? Or do

2575
01:51:23,880 --> 01:51:25,559
Speaker 1: you you know? And that's not to say anything bad

2576
01:51:25,600 --> 01:51:28,080
Speaker 1: about Fury versus Us, which is historically is such an

2577
01:51:28,080 --> 01:51:29,960
Speaker 1: important fight. Yeah, Or do you think if it was

2578
01:51:30,000 --> 01:51:32,360
Speaker 1: like Ryan Tank two or something that would be bigger.

2579
01:51:32,360 --> 01:51:34,559
Speaker 2: That might still be bigger. But it's up there, it's

2580
01:51:34,640 --> 01:51:34,880
Speaker 2: up there.

2581
01:51:34,920 --> 01:51:38,120
Speaker 1: Interesting. All right, Let's continue what we're doing here. Uh

2582
01:51:38,160 --> 01:51:40,559
Speaker 1: we mentioned Tank Davis and Frank Martin had a press

2583
01:51:40,600 --> 01:51:43,920
Speaker 1: conference ahead hyping on Saturday, the June fifteenth card that's

2584
01:51:43,920 --> 01:51:46,560
Speaker 1: coming up in Vegas. Let's listen in on Tank just

2585
01:51:46,640 --> 01:51:51,760
Speaker 1: disrobing Frank over here, no comment, ya, no mean talk,

2586
01:51:51,880 --> 01:51:55,880
Speaker 1: but he got that's that's the problem. But that little

2587
01:51:55,920 --> 01:51:58,840
Speaker 1: female you got was she probably around here somewhere. I'll

2588
01:51:58,880 --> 01:52:05,640
Speaker 1: catch out with a let Okay, ladies and gentlemen, with that,

2589
01:52:05,760 --> 01:52:09,559
Speaker 1: let's move on. Listen, this is a tremendous fight. June

2590
01:52:09,600 --> 01:52:15,000
Speaker 1: to fifteenth, Saturday, MGM Grand Guard Luke there, the powers

2591
01:52:15,040 --> 01:52:17,760
Speaker 1: that be, the court of public opinion has basically ten

2592
01:52:17,760 --> 01:52:21,000
Speaker 1: to seven this round between them, as if Davante the

2593
01:52:21,040 --> 01:52:22,960
Speaker 1: whole presser. I mean, every time Frank tried to talk

2594
01:52:22,960 --> 01:52:25,360
Speaker 1: to Gravanti jump In be like he's from the suburbs,

2595
01:52:25,400 --> 01:52:27,120
Speaker 1: you know, he just like always have the right jab

2596
01:52:27,120 --> 01:52:28,960
Speaker 1: at the right moment. Does that matter? Do you think

2597
01:52:29,000 --> 01:52:30,000
Speaker 1: Frank got sunned in this?

2598
01:52:30,640 --> 01:52:35,400
Speaker 3: I'll say this Tank had one disc that I thought

2599
01:52:35,520 --> 01:52:37,400
Speaker 3: was so deep and it didn't get picked up on.

2600
01:52:38,160 --> 01:52:40,679
Speaker 3: He was saying like, oh, I've seen Tank to Frank Martin,

2601
01:52:40,720 --> 01:52:42,559
Speaker 3: he was like, oh, I've seen you party with Ryan.

2602
01:52:42,640 --> 01:52:44,920
Speaker 3: He's like when he was like, oh, not this fight,

2603
01:52:44,960 --> 01:52:47,160
Speaker 3: but a previous fight, and he was like, oh yeah,

2604
01:52:47,240 --> 01:52:48,800
Speaker 3: not this fight, but yes, well he goes out of.

2605
01:52:48,800 --> 01:52:50,840
Speaker 2: His last win, the Dwarte fight.

2606
01:52:50,920 --> 01:52:53,880
Speaker 3: Yes, and he was like, man, if I started boxing

2607
01:52:53,920 --> 01:52:55,920
Speaker 3: when you started boxing, I wouldn't be out in the club.

2608
01:52:55,960 --> 01:52:57,360
Speaker 3: He's like, what do you mean. He's like, well, you

2609
01:52:57,400 --> 01:52:58,959
Speaker 3: started boxing when you were fifteen.

2610
01:52:59,560 --> 01:53:01,120
Speaker 2: I didn't. I started when I was six.

2611
01:53:01,720 --> 01:53:03,760
Speaker 3: He's like, you have all that time, you need to

2612
01:53:03,760 --> 01:53:05,439
Speaker 3: be catching up and you're out there getting drunk and

2613
01:53:05,479 --> 01:53:06,320
Speaker 3: fucking around the club.

2614
01:53:06,680 --> 01:53:08,920
Speaker 1: He's mountains mentally, he.

2615
01:53:08,840 --> 01:53:11,160
Speaker 3: Goes, Dude, you don't have the skills to be partying

2616
01:53:11,240 --> 01:53:14,400
Speaker 3: like that, And I was like, goddamn.

2617
01:53:14,680 --> 01:53:17,639
Speaker 1: First of all, the exchanges between them drove the heat

2618
01:53:17,720 --> 01:53:19,400
Speaker 1: up ahead of June and fifteen time, let's look at

2619
01:53:19,439 --> 01:53:21,160
Speaker 1: the face off. It did get a little bit intense

2620
01:53:21,200 --> 01:53:23,240
Speaker 1: at times. I like this angle where you can see

2621
01:53:23,240 --> 01:53:24,479
Speaker 1: Tank coming from a distance.

2622
01:53:24,800 --> 01:53:26,520
Speaker 2: Dude, Tank is all fucking.

2623
01:53:26,320 --> 01:53:28,200
Speaker 1: I mean, freaked in it back down. But Tank is

2624
01:53:28,240 --> 01:53:30,120
Speaker 1: like talking about his girl. I mean he's hitting him

2625
01:53:30,120 --> 01:53:30,639
Speaker 1: from everything.

2626
01:53:30,760 --> 01:53:35,280
Speaker 3: Dude, that is fucking Baltimore right there. That is that

2627
01:53:35,400 --> 01:53:37,160
Speaker 3: is old Bay in your face.

2628
01:53:37,360 --> 01:53:39,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he brought it during this face.

2629
01:53:39,680 --> 01:53:41,760
Speaker 2: Look right there. And the thing is, I do I

2630
01:53:41,840 --> 01:53:44,599
Speaker 2: like Frank Martin's game. I love it. I love his game.

2631
01:53:44,640 --> 01:53:46,160
Speaker 2: I actually I am so looking forward.

2632
01:53:45,960 --> 01:53:47,840
Speaker 1: To you down on him because he hasn't fought since

2633
01:53:47,880 --> 01:53:50,040
Speaker 1: that last fight against was that that Greek fighter? He

2634
01:53:50,080 --> 01:53:52,400
Speaker 1: fought that that uh he went the distance with who

2635
01:53:52,479 --> 01:53:54,479
Speaker 1: he kept He was not into. He was kind of

2636
01:53:54,560 --> 01:53:56,920
Speaker 1: running away the opponent, wasn't he He was very hard

2637
01:53:56,920 --> 01:53:59,439
Speaker 1: to hit, He was very defensive. Very kind of moving

2638
01:53:59,479 --> 01:54:02,960
Speaker 1: away from the I don't remember. I thought Frank got

2639
01:54:03,320 --> 01:54:06,200
Speaker 1: he got skewered just because he was just trying to

2640
01:54:06,200 --> 01:54:08,839
Speaker 1: catch up to this guy who was running on whatever.

2641
01:54:08,960 --> 01:54:10,599
Speaker 2: There we go, But I hold on, who's the big

2642
01:54:10,640 --> 01:54:13,160
Speaker 2: donk in the back? The white guy? Tom Brown thought

2643
01:54:13,200 --> 01:54:13,639
Speaker 2: Tom Brown?

2644
01:54:13,720 --> 01:54:15,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, so he's the brother in law of the goosen.

2645
01:54:15,920 --> 01:54:17,639
Speaker 1: He's married to a he's married to a goose.

2646
01:54:17,720 --> 01:54:18,120
Speaker 2: Is that right?

2647
01:54:18,200 --> 01:54:22,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, Luke, Let's play a game called name that UFC

2648
01:54:22,160 --> 01:54:24,599
Speaker 1: champion that's coming up on this motorcycle. You must put

2649
01:54:24,640 --> 01:54:29,439
Speaker 1: in your guests before the motorcycle stops. Watch it. There's

2650
01:54:29,479 --> 01:54:32,480
Speaker 1: only a few UFC champions you have until he stops

2651
01:54:32,480 --> 01:54:34,400
Speaker 1: the motorcycle. Do you have any early guests?

2652
01:54:34,400 --> 01:54:34,880
Speaker 2: A champion?

2653
01:54:35,640 --> 01:54:36,120
Speaker 1: What says?

2654
01:54:37,560 --> 01:54:39,920
Speaker 2: I didn't see. I don't know. I don't know who

2655
01:54:39,960 --> 01:54:40,200
Speaker 2: is it.

2656
01:54:40,400 --> 01:54:44,880
Speaker 1: I thought you'd be better at this game, is all right?

2657
01:54:44,920 --> 01:54:47,560
Speaker 3: Look, he's gonna get paralyzed like a motherfucker driving that

2658
01:54:47,560 --> 01:54:47,920
Speaker 3: thing around.

2659
01:54:48,000 --> 01:54:50,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's go back to girls gone Wild getting hurt.

2660
01:54:50,480 --> 01:54:51,080
Speaker 1: Let's watch this.

2661
01:54:51,480 --> 01:54:51,760
Speaker 2: Okay.

2662
01:55:00,080 --> 01:55:03,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, look that means new meaning to the term broad jump.

2663
01:55:03,760 --> 01:55:04,320
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?

2664
01:55:04,440 --> 01:55:07,080
Speaker 1: That's just that's great right there? All right, let's go

2665
01:55:07,240 --> 01:55:10,720
Speaker 1: to this fight in a bowling alley. Watch the extreme

2666
01:55:11,160 --> 01:55:19,000
Speaker 1: rare at the top of the screen. Oh oh, dude,

2667
01:55:18,920 --> 01:55:21,160
Speaker 1: a bowling ball to the head from three feet away

2668
01:55:21,160 --> 01:55:23,000
Speaker 1: for the ko Wow, dude.

2669
01:55:22,800 --> 01:55:24,280
Speaker 2: You can kill a motherfucker like that?

2670
01:55:24,400 --> 01:55:27,880
Speaker 1: Yes you can, Yes you can. That is intense. All right,

2671
01:55:27,920 --> 01:55:28,720
Speaker 1: let's check it on pole.

2672
01:55:28,800 --> 01:55:30,920
Speaker 2: Have you ever gotten a fight at a bowling alley?

2673
01:55:31,160 --> 01:55:33,160
Speaker 1: Allen Iverson has and that taught me not to.

2674
01:55:33,800 --> 01:55:35,120
Speaker 3: I mean again, I don't know what it's like to

2675
01:55:35,200 --> 01:55:37,000
Speaker 3: be a big time celebrity. Those people are not big

2676
01:55:37,040 --> 01:55:39,160
Speaker 3: time celebrities. Yeah, so I'll say I don't know what

2677
01:55:39,200 --> 01:55:40,800
Speaker 3: it's like for big time celebrities, but if you're an

2678
01:55:40,920 --> 01:55:43,320
Speaker 3: ordinary person, it's not hard to not get into a fight.

2679
01:55:43,360 --> 01:55:44,720
Speaker 3: It's actually very easy.

2680
01:55:45,600 --> 01:55:47,000
Speaker 1: Depends where you grow hold on.

2681
01:55:47,600 --> 01:55:49,040
Speaker 2: There are, of course exceptions.

2682
01:55:50,080 --> 01:55:53,880
Speaker 1: Around Waterbury, Connecticut. Mug twice actively avoid fights.

2683
01:55:53,960 --> 01:55:55,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, look, I got mugged twice. I got mugged once

2684
01:55:55,920 --> 01:55:58,200
Speaker 3: in Washington eighties, nineteen eightys Washington scene, and.

2685
01:55:58,160 --> 01:56:00,720
Speaker 2: Once int in Oklahoma. Yeah, you'll go to neighborhood and.

2686
01:56:00,680 --> 01:56:02,760
Speaker 1: Sure in Oklahoma that's your dad's hometime.

2687
01:56:02,800 --> 01:56:04,600
Speaker 3: That was the worst beating I ever got. I got

2688
01:56:04,720 --> 01:56:06,520
Speaker 3: like seven on one to beat the funk out of

2689
01:56:06,560 --> 01:56:07,320
Speaker 3: me and my brother.

2690
01:56:08,640 --> 01:56:09,360
Speaker 2: Ten or eleven.

2691
01:56:09,720 --> 01:56:11,480
Speaker 1: Dude, that's traumatizing.

2692
01:56:11,520 --> 01:56:13,760
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, dude, we got we got brother had to

2693
01:56:13,760 --> 01:56:15,160
Speaker 3: go to the hospital. We got roffed up.

2694
01:56:15,760 --> 01:56:16,680
Speaker 1: Ught this on camera?

2695
01:56:17,080 --> 01:56:17,480
Speaker 2: I don't think so.

2696
01:56:17,520 --> 01:56:18,600
Speaker 1: I didn't want to stumble into this.

2697
01:56:18,640 --> 01:56:20,920
Speaker 2: I feel no. But I got held at Knie point

2698
01:56:20,920 --> 01:56:22,400
Speaker 2: too in d C. So you know what happens.

2699
01:56:22,440 --> 01:56:24,640
Speaker 1: But it's definitely not your I'm just saying at.

2700
01:56:24,480 --> 01:56:27,200
Speaker 3: A bowling alley, like just hanging out, it's not hard

2701
01:56:27,240 --> 01:56:28,160
Speaker 3: to not get into a fight.

2702
01:56:28,200 --> 01:56:32,160
Speaker 1: That's poeton is Alex Pereira, the two division champion, and

2703
01:56:32,240 --> 01:56:34,360
Speaker 1: Luke he's had a busy couple weeks there, let's check

2704
01:56:34,360 --> 01:56:52,880
Speaker 1: in on him playing what's this instruments called the what's that?

2705
01:56:54,440 --> 01:56:55,160
Speaker 2: Here's the reality.

2706
01:56:55,920 --> 01:57:00,440
Speaker 3: He could be doing a terrible job and it's like.

2707
01:57:02,480 --> 01:57:05,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, well Poton went back stage at three oh one,

2708
01:57:05,840 --> 01:57:08,320
Speaker 1: and what's the new thing of active fighters? Just look,

2709
01:57:08,400 --> 01:57:10,000
Speaker 1: they see d C from the distance. They just want

2710
01:57:10,040 --> 01:57:10,640
Speaker 1: to take him down there.

2711
01:57:10,640 --> 01:57:14,000
Speaker 3: I don't I don't get that, but they love it.

2712
01:57:19,280 --> 01:57:20,920
Speaker 1: DC legitimately.

2713
01:57:21,880 --> 01:57:34,080
Speaker 5: Switches off enough, like really, it's like he's had.

2714
01:57:36,160 --> 01:57:38,400
Speaker 2: DC is old and fat now and I love it.

2715
01:57:38,720 --> 01:57:39,680
Speaker 2: He's become like a mask.

2716
01:57:39,840 --> 01:57:45,960
Speaker 1: And also poton ran into this former UFC champion at

2717
01:57:45,960 --> 01:57:46,880
Speaker 1: the Europa Park.

2718
01:57:50,360 --> 01:57:51,800
Speaker 2: I don't think that that's him.

2719
01:57:51,920 --> 01:57:55,080
Speaker 1: Okay, that looks more like a bootleg bolk in a jersey.

2720
01:57:55,160 --> 01:57:57,320
Speaker 2: Looks just like a bald asshole there.

2721
01:57:57,960 --> 01:58:01,960
Speaker 1: All right, Well, Luke, uh, I would never have guessed

2722
01:58:01,960 --> 01:58:04,040
Speaker 1: that a gas station hot dog could save a man's life,

2723
01:58:04,040 --> 01:58:06,520
Speaker 1: because look what is the in my life right? Your

2724
01:58:06,560 --> 01:58:10,440
Speaker 1: house sadly tragically completely destroyed. Where were you today when

2725
01:58:10,480 --> 01:58:11,320
Speaker 1: the storm rolled through?

2726
01:58:11,560 --> 01:58:13,480
Speaker 2: You know, I was at the gas station getting hot

2727
01:58:13,520 --> 01:58:17,200
Speaker 2: dogs and it saved my life. So hot dog saved

2728
01:58:17,240 --> 01:58:17,760
Speaker 2: my life.

2729
01:58:18,480 --> 01:58:20,480
Speaker 1: Score one for the Glizzy right there, Luke.

2730
01:58:20,560 --> 01:58:23,560
Speaker 3: Right, come on, dude, next time we do a watch along,

2731
01:58:23,600 --> 01:58:25,800
Speaker 3: we need to get the Glizzies that we like, hollow

2732
01:58:25,800 --> 01:58:27,080
Speaker 3: out and then use as a straw.

2733
01:58:27,280 --> 01:58:28,720
Speaker 1: Oh they're gonna say used as a bong.

2734
01:58:30,280 --> 01:58:32,640
Speaker 2: We can do that too. You can do that too.

2735
01:58:33,040 --> 01:58:35,000
Speaker 1: All right, We got a couple more here, Luke. You

2736
01:58:35,040 --> 01:58:36,680
Speaker 1: know how you always telling me I have the grossest

2737
01:58:36,720 --> 01:58:38,120
Speaker 1: feed in America, you and my family.

2738
01:58:38,480 --> 01:58:39,360
Speaker 2: You I don't.

2739
01:58:39,440 --> 01:58:41,640
Speaker 3: I don't think your feet are grosser, really gross. I

2740
01:58:41,640 --> 01:58:43,200
Speaker 3: don't think your feet are grosser than mine.

2741
01:58:43,200 --> 01:58:43,760
Speaker 2: We're equally.

2742
01:58:43,920 --> 01:58:45,560
Speaker 1: I just want to remind people that if if we're

2743
01:58:45,600 --> 01:58:48,880
Speaker 1: going to celebrate cauliflower ear and these UFC legends and

2744
01:58:48,920 --> 01:58:49,919
Speaker 1: be like, that's dude.

2745
01:58:49,760 --> 01:58:52,240
Speaker 3: I don't think you get to grossaria on your balls

2746
01:58:52,280 --> 01:58:54,680
Speaker 3: and be like, this is coe flower, this.

2747
01:58:54,760 --> 01:58:57,680
Speaker 1: Is the travel, this is this is the you know,

2748
01:58:57,720 --> 01:58:58,640
Speaker 1: it shows where I've been.

2749
01:58:59,440 --> 01:59:00,680
Speaker 2: The smile and this guy gives me.

2750
01:59:00,720 --> 01:59:05,720
Speaker 1: This is Shaquille O'Neal, who actually does have the grossest toes.

2751
01:59:06,200 --> 01:59:06,720
Speaker 1: Look at it.

2752
01:59:07,040 --> 01:59:10,320
Speaker 2: He doesn't. He doesn't have toes. He has hooves.

2753
01:59:10,720 --> 01:59:13,480
Speaker 1: So luckily shacks a Hall of Famer Luke, so he

2754
01:59:13,520 --> 01:59:13,800
Speaker 1: can know.

2755
01:59:13,840 --> 01:59:15,920
Speaker 2: And no one's gonna say, we won't put your toes

2756
01:59:15,920 --> 01:59:16,920
Speaker 2: out now put him on camera?

2757
01:59:17,040 --> 01:59:18,040
Speaker 1: No, why what?

2758
01:59:18,080 --> 01:59:18,760
Speaker 2: We won't do it? Now?

2759
01:59:18,800 --> 01:59:20,240
Speaker 1: Will you show us your naval tattoo?

2760
01:59:20,560 --> 01:59:20,760
Speaker 2: No?

2761
01:59:21,040 --> 01:59:22,960
Speaker 1: All right, but I'm not showing my toe Actually, will

2762
01:59:23,000 --> 01:59:24,440
Speaker 1: you put your beard on the line, I'll put my

2763
01:59:24,440 --> 01:59:25,960
Speaker 1: toes on the line. We'll go toe by again.

2764
01:59:26,160 --> 01:59:28,960
Speaker 3: I don't understand why you are so concerned with my appearance.

2765
01:59:29,000 --> 01:59:30,200
Speaker 3: I don't care if you live or die.

2766
01:59:31,240 --> 01:59:33,840
Speaker 1: All right, Uh, luke, we got reunited with the New

2767
01:59:33,920 --> 01:59:35,640
Speaker 1: York City Subways. Now that we're back here at Meadow

2768
01:59:35,680 --> 01:59:40,360
Speaker 1: Larks Studio. Every there's sometimes you get unity and people

2769
01:59:40,400 --> 01:59:43,280
Speaker 1: from unlikely backgrounds come together. Let's watch this great moment

2770
02:00:00,120 --> 02:00:01,040
Speaker 1: bringing people together.

2771
02:00:01,240 --> 02:00:09,080
Speaker 2: I can't tell what train.

2772
02:00:05,760 --> 02:00:11,560
Speaker 1: Look shaped chairs right there? The yellow line, Yeah, like

2773
02:00:11,640 --> 02:00:14,360
Speaker 1: the one that you're numbered here. No, no, no, there's

2774
02:00:14,440 --> 02:00:15,720
Speaker 1: there's also letters as well.

2775
02:00:15,960 --> 02:00:18,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, but the letters. No one goes by the yellow line.

2776
02:00:18,320 --> 02:00:21,600
Speaker 3: They like the N, the R, the W, the one

2777
02:00:21,680 --> 02:00:22,920
Speaker 3: or the R train.

2778
02:00:23,000 --> 02:00:25,440
Speaker 2: I don't know if it's above ground, it's outer borrow typically.

2779
02:00:25,640 --> 02:00:27,760
Speaker 1: Okay, thank you, thank you for that. But that was

2780
02:00:27,760 --> 02:00:29,360
Speaker 1: that was able. I mean that was great.

2781
02:00:29,400 --> 02:00:33,840
Speaker 2: Have you never connected those dots? No, just now it

2782
02:00:33,880 --> 02:00:34,400
Speaker 2: occurred to you.

2783
02:00:34,600 --> 02:00:36,200
Speaker 1: It hasn't affected my life up to this point, and

2784
02:00:36,240 --> 02:00:38,640
Speaker 1: it's still it still won't. Luke. Okay, here's your T

2785
02:00:38,760 --> 02:00:40,440
Speaker 1: shirt of the week. Let's see if you're interested in this.

2786
02:00:42,040 --> 02:00:43,640
Speaker 2: Let me pee in that butt.

2787
02:00:46,200 --> 02:00:47,920
Speaker 1: Or maybe that's the name of the new R. Kelly album.

2788
02:00:47,960 --> 02:00:50,880
Speaker 1: I'm not really sure, you know, but either way, that

2789
02:00:50,920 --> 02:00:52,120
Speaker 1: man is representing it.

2790
02:00:52,600 --> 02:00:52,760
Speaker 3: Luke.

2791
02:00:52,840 --> 02:00:54,800
Speaker 1: You ever try air fried hash Browns?

2792
02:00:54,800 --> 02:00:56,480
Speaker 2: I hear they are hash browns.

2793
02:00:56,520 --> 02:00:57,880
Speaker 1: I have not watch this, gentleman.

2794
02:00:57,920 --> 02:01:01,520
Speaker 4: I want to have some hash brows, fried hash Browns

2795
02:01:01,560 --> 02:01:06,040
Speaker 4: and I'm feeling great tombs up terrified hash Browns.

2796
02:01:10,440 --> 02:01:13,120
Speaker 1: Is that like the all of our listeners put together

2797
02:01:13,160 --> 02:01:13,720
Speaker 1: in one person?

2798
02:01:13,880 --> 02:01:21,400
Speaker 2: That is you picked this clip because he's on drugs?

2799
02:01:21,560 --> 02:01:25,760
Speaker 1: Yes, okay, exactly exactly, Luke. Do you remember Blood Diamond?

2800
02:01:25,800 --> 02:01:27,720
Speaker 1: Remember he came over. He was like, it was like

2801
02:01:27,760 --> 02:01:30,040
Speaker 1: the Yeah, it was what's the name of that? It

2802
02:01:30,080 --> 02:01:32,839
Speaker 1: was like the CKB tax Like you want Volkanovski hooker

2803
02:01:33,160 --> 02:01:35,640
Speaker 1: and out to Sonia, you gotta take Blood car France,

2804
02:01:35,680 --> 02:01:38,480
Speaker 1: don't forget him, Mike Mathenya or whatever. Luke. He went

2805
02:01:38,480 --> 02:01:40,400
Speaker 1: in there this weekend in his first fight since getting

2806
02:01:40,440 --> 02:01:46,080
Speaker 1: cut by the UFC. He took on raymart Quintana and

2807
02:01:46,280 --> 02:01:49,200
Speaker 1: Death the Diamond started bleeding. That's it, Luko one just

2808
02:01:49,280 --> 02:01:49,640
Speaker 1: like that.

2809
02:01:49,760 --> 02:01:52,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, not going so great for him, huh not really.

2810
02:01:52,880 --> 02:01:55,120
Speaker 1: The other swinging drama of the week took place at

2811
02:01:55,120 --> 02:02:02,400
Speaker 1: this high school. Let's watch, Oh call on God. Imagine

2812
02:02:02,400 --> 02:02:04,160
Speaker 1: if you could do that in public to our listeners.

2813
02:02:04,240 --> 02:02:05,960
Speaker 1: Luke had a live show, just one by one.

2814
02:02:08,960 --> 02:02:10,120
Speaker 2: Throwing instruments at them.

2815
02:02:10,160 --> 02:02:12,240
Speaker 1: That's the ship of the week. I hope you that's it,

2816
02:02:12,360 --> 02:02:15,440
Speaker 1: saw it. I don't think that was an inadequate.

2817
02:02:14,920 --> 02:02:16,720
Speaker 2: Bat That was an inadequate batch. Well, I was.

2818
02:02:16,760 --> 02:02:19,000
Speaker 1: I did it from an airport. I was underslept, and

2819
02:02:19,080 --> 02:02:19,840
Speaker 1: you know, I'll.

2820
02:02:19,720 --> 02:02:21,480
Speaker 2: Forgive you because I know what your travel day was like.

2821
02:02:21,520 --> 02:02:22,560
Speaker 2: But I want to look at me.

2822
02:02:23,200 --> 02:02:25,280
Speaker 1: Put the camera in my eye. Oh yeah, you go.

2823
02:02:25,680 --> 02:02:31,000
Speaker 2: Two thumbs down. I wish I had more hands. I'll

2824
02:02:31,040 --> 02:02:34,080
Speaker 2: give you. I'd give you that BC species four thumbs down.

2825
02:02:34,160 --> 02:02:35,480
Speaker 1: If you had a third hand, What would you do

2826
02:02:35,520 --> 02:02:38,280
Speaker 1: with it during the show? Something just follow don't answer that, don't.

2827
02:02:38,120 --> 02:02:40,000
Speaker 3: I would scratch my balls and then try to rub

2828
02:02:40,000 --> 02:02:41,160
Speaker 3: my finger underneath your nose.

2829
02:02:41,760 --> 02:02:44,520
Speaker 1: Everyone can go to YouTube dot com slash Morning Combat

2830
02:02:44,600 --> 02:02:47,800
Speaker 1: right now and check out room service diaries. At one point, Oh,

2831
02:02:47,840 --> 02:02:50,840
Speaker 1: we recorded it Thursday night in Las Vegas, in the

2832
02:02:50,840 --> 02:02:53,839
Speaker 1: midst of Canelo Mungi a week here Luke talk about

2833
02:02:53,920 --> 02:02:54,920
Speaker 1: crying in a hooter.

2834
02:02:55,240 --> 02:02:56,760
Speaker 2: I did, in fact cry in a Hooters.

2835
02:02:56,840 --> 02:02:59,440
Speaker 1: Yes, and I think we did a cappella nineties rock

2836
02:02:59,480 --> 02:03:01,320
Speaker 1: to close. It took us took a while to get there,

2837
02:03:01,400 --> 02:03:04,000
Speaker 1: was slow brewing that one. You know they'll count yourself out.

2838
02:03:04,160 --> 02:03:07,680
Speaker 1: Yet you were upset with my energy levels and yawning

2839
02:03:07,840 --> 02:03:08,640
Speaker 1: during half of it.

2840
02:03:08,720 --> 02:03:11,720
Speaker 2: You yawned. I counted six times on fucking camera.

2841
02:03:12,000 --> 02:03:13,440
Speaker 1: Do you know how much of those weeks take out

2842
02:03:13,480 --> 02:03:14,160
Speaker 1: of us? I guess you do.

2843
02:03:14,200 --> 02:03:15,640
Speaker 2: You were there, Yeah, I was there, and it takes

2844
02:03:15,680 --> 02:03:17,640
Speaker 2: a ship let out still take it. I gotta tell you.

2845
02:03:17,680 --> 02:03:20,800
Speaker 2: So I had to take two flights back to get home.

2846
02:03:21,240 --> 02:03:22,360
Speaker 1: Yeah. I do that all the time.

2847
02:03:22,560 --> 02:03:22,800
Speaker 2: Okay.

2848
02:03:22,800 --> 02:03:25,120
Speaker 3: So I had to fly from Vegas to Chicago. That's

2849
02:03:25,120 --> 02:03:27,680
Speaker 3: about three hours forty five. And then I had to

2850
02:03:27,720 --> 02:03:29,720
Speaker 3: fly from Chicago to d C. That was about an

2851
02:03:29,760 --> 02:03:32,600
Speaker 3: hour and a half. And I was thinking to myself,

2852
02:03:32,680 --> 02:03:36,680
Speaker 3: BC does this every fucking time, Dude, I just put

2853
02:03:36,840 --> 02:03:37,960
Speaker 3: I just put a bowllet in my mouth.

2854
02:03:38,560 --> 02:03:39,680
Speaker 1: It's so unnecessarily.

2855
02:03:39,760 --> 02:03:41,800
Speaker 2: I would I couldn't. I could not imagine having to

2856
02:03:41,840 --> 02:03:42,839
Speaker 2: do that every single.

2857
02:03:42,680 --> 02:03:46,160
Speaker 1: There was one seat back yesterday from Vegas to the

2858
02:03:46,200 --> 02:03:48,440
Speaker 1: East Coast and it took me to Philly and I

2859
02:03:48,480 --> 02:03:55,400
Speaker 1: took that seat. You people, and because I really need them,

2860
02:03:56,240 --> 02:03:59,520
Speaker 1: they are put the camera on me or you people

2861
02:04:00,080 --> 02:04:06,360
Speaker 1: for j Piquette for John Mahoney, all right, for uh?

2862
02:04:07,120 --> 02:04:12,080
Speaker 1: For uh, we have all of our other listeners combined, Saul, Melissa, Nachos,

2863
02:04:12,160 --> 02:04:17,040
Speaker 1: and Mma. Okay, soul A from Chicago for all you people,

2864
02:04:17,280 --> 02:04:19,240
Speaker 1: and I'll be taking the train to Hartford as soon

2865
02:04:19,240 --> 02:04:20,040
Speaker 1: as we get out of here.

2866
02:04:20,120 --> 02:04:22,680
Speaker 2: Luke okay, the land that time forgot.

2867
02:04:22,560 --> 02:04:23,960
Speaker 1: And then taking a new bird of the airport.

2868
02:04:24,280 --> 02:04:27,200
Speaker 3: They could literally just sink Connecticut into the ocean and

2869
02:04:27,240 --> 02:04:28,120
Speaker 3: no one would miss it.

2870
02:04:28,440 --> 02:04:30,160
Speaker 1: I'm starting to grow on Amtrak. I was always a

2871
02:04:30,200 --> 02:04:31,960
Speaker 1: Metro North guy my whole life, but now I'm starting

2872
02:04:31,960 --> 02:04:34,280
Speaker 1: to grow on your Amtrak thing. You can work on there.

2873
02:04:34,320 --> 02:04:35,480
Speaker 1: The Wi Fi actually works.

2874
02:04:35,560 --> 02:04:38,040
Speaker 3: The only thing I'll say about Amtrak is between It's true,

2875
02:04:38,040 --> 02:04:41,000
Speaker 3: between DC and Boston what they call the Acella Corridor.

2876
02:04:41,120 --> 02:04:43,960
Speaker 2: Yes, it works pretty well. Outside of that, you're on

2877
02:04:44,000 --> 02:04:44,240
Speaker 2: your own.

2878
02:04:44,280 --> 02:04:47,560
Speaker 1: Philadelphia's train station this morning, the third Street train station

2879
02:04:47,680 --> 02:04:49,400
Speaker 1: was so much better than Newark.

2880
02:04:49,120 --> 02:04:50,160
Speaker 2: Penn So dude.

2881
02:04:50,200 --> 02:04:52,880
Speaker 3: The Philly train station is what the thirtieth Street stations

2882
02:04:52,880 --> 02:04:56,000
Speaker 3: what they call so much better than Newark, so much better.

2883
02:04:56,240 --> 02:04:59,280
Speaker 3: DC's is, well, they're making a new one, but it's

2884
02:04:59,520 --> 02:04:59,960
Speaker 3: the old one.

2885
02:05:00,240 --> 02:05:00,600
Speaker 2: Nice.

2886
02:05:01,080 --> 02:05:04,600
Speaker 3: Philly one is nice. The one in Delaware not that nice.

2887
02:05:04,680 --> 02:05:05,160
Speaker 2: Who were we.

2888
02:05:05,120 --> 02:05:07,720
Speaker 1: Talking to this weekend? Was it Ariel who was trying

2889
02:05:07,760 --> 02:05:10,200
Speaker 1: to tell you, like, get out of DC, bro, tell

2890
02:05:10,240 --> 02:05:10,760
Speaker 1: your house.

2891
02:05:10,920 --> 02:05:12,280
Speaker 3: Was asking if I want to go back to New York.

2892
02:05:12,320 --> 02:05:14,520
Speaker 3: But it's dude, New York's expensive. It's no cheaper than DC.

2893
02:05:14,760 --> 02:05:18,760
Speaker 2: I don't live in New York, live in like live

2894
02:05:18,800 --> 02:05:19,760
Speaker 2: in Jersey.

2895
02:05:19,680 --> 02:05:22,120
Speaker 1: Living long It says Long Island, Luke he living Long again.

2896
02:05:22,200 --> 02:05:24,240
Speaker 2: I would rather eat a bullet than live in Long Island.

2897
02:05:24,440 --> 02:05:27,720
Speaker 2: This is this is dark a moving bullet. Yes, great art.

2898
02:05:28,720 --> 02:05:31,080
Speaker 1: That's not an acceptable move on this show at any point.

2899
02:05:31,760 --> 02:05:34,520
Speaker 1: Anything coming attractions for Morning Combat besides being back here

2900
02:05:34,600 --> 02:05:36,080
Speaker 1: next Monday doing what we do.

2901
02:05:36,200 --> 02:05:37,520
Speaker 2: I don't think so right now, but we are.

2902
02:05:37,640 --> 02:05:39,080
Speaker 3: I will say this, if you want to hit us

2903
02:05:39,120 --> 02:05:40,920
Speaker 3: up Morning Combat at gmail dot com. We are trying

2904
02:05:40,920 --> 02:05:43,960
Speaker 3: to figure out exactly our event schedule for the next

2905
02:05:44,120 --> 02:05:45,360
Speaker 3: I would say till the end of summer.

2906
02:05:45,640 --> 02:05:47,600
Speaker 2: The end of summer. We're trying to figure that out

2907
02:05:47,640 --> 02:05:49,600
Speaker 2: and what that's going to look like. And so what

2908
02:05:49,640 --> 02:05:51,800
Speaker 2: events do you want us to go to? Where? Where?

2909
02:05:51,920 --> 02:05:54,360
Speaker 2: Where should we be? Where should we be? Look?

2910
02:05:54,360 --> 02:05:56,960
Speaker 1: Our future could be showing up at big events like

2911
02:05:57,000 --> 02:05:59,640
Speaker 1: we did this past week for Canelo versus Monkey. I

2912
02:05:59,680 --> 02:06:02,320
Speaker 1: will say, it could be us getting our own studio

2913
02:06:02,920 --> 02:06:05,480
Speaker 1: and live companioning that ass we have We have a

2914
02:06:05,520 --> 02:06:07,720
Speaker 1: put options. We have some options for the future.

2915
02:06:07,720 --> 02:06:09,080
Speaker 3: We have some options, but I would love to hear

2916
02:06:09,080 --> 02:06:11,000
Speaker 3: what the fans think. Should we do a live show

2917
02:06:11,160 --> 02:06:13,600
Speaker 3: for the Newark event? By the way, Newark, you can

2918
02:06:13,640 --> 02:06:16,520
Speaker 3: go and watch UC fights and then get uh, you know,

2919
02:06:16,600 --> 02:06:18,200
Speaker 3: stab besheen your sixth, sixth, and seventh rip.

2920
02:06:18,240 --> 02:06:20,200
Speaker 1: Would it be in Newark or in Jersey City where

2921
02:06:20,200 --> 02:06:21,640
Speaker 1: it's safer.

2922
02:06:23,680 --> 02:06:29,240
Speaker 2: It's a good problem. That's a good question. Probably man, Probably, man, Okay,

2923
02:06:29,320 --> 02:06:29,839
Speaker 2: but what's.

2924
02:06:29,640 --> 02:06:32,200
Speaker 1: Your what's your Margherita minimum for a live show?

2925
02:06:32,000 --> 02:06:34,840
Speaker 3: And I'm not doing any fucking Margarito's at the live show.

2926
02:06:34,880 --> 02:06:37,160
Speaker 3: I'll do one like during the show if I have to,

2927
02:06:37,240 --> 02:06:39,080
Speaker 3: for like a contest like a beer chug.

2928
02:06:39,160 --> 02:06:41,320
Speaker 1: All right, would you go as high as forty five

2929
02:06:41,360 --> 02:06:42,360
Speaker 1: milligrams for that event?

2930
02:06:44,200 --> 02:06:48,880
Speaker 3: That's high for me, that's high fifties. Usually when I

2931
02:06:48,880 --> 02:06:50,040
Speaker 3: start seeing stars.

2932
02:06:50,160 --> 02:06:51,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to get you to the point where

2933
02:06:51,840 --> 02:06:54,360
Speaker 1: you can converse with aliens live on the show.

2934
02:06:54,400 --> 02:06:57,280
Speaker 2: So I've had a hundred before, and I literally thought

2935
02:06:57,360 --> 02:07:01,200
Speaker 2: I was The room was absolutely turn on me. I

2936
02:07:01,200 --> 02:07:01,560
Speaker 2: never forgot.

2937
02:07:01,600 --> 02:07:02,520
Speaker 3: I woke up in the middle of the night and

2938
02:07:02,560 --> 02:07:04,560
Speaker 3: I had to grab the sheets around me because the

2939
02:07:04,720 --> 02:07:06,240
Speaker 3: room was doing one of these numbers.

2940
02:07:06,600 --> 02:07:08,080
Speaker 1: We had so much to recap today that we didn't

2941
02:07:08,080 --> 02:07:10,920
Speaker 1: preview anything. But this weekend we've got what Lomachenko versus

2942
02:07:10,920 --> 02:07:13,160
Speaker 1: Cambos's that's this weekend, I believe so, and I think

2943
02:07:13,200 --> 02:07:14,480
Speaker 1: it's also UFC Saint Louis.

2944
02:07:14,480 --> 02:07:15,760
Speaker 2: It is UFC Saint Louis for sure.

2945
02:07:15,880 --> 02:07:16,000
Speaker 1: That.

2946
02:07:16,400 --> 02:07:17,920
Speaker 3: By the way, people like, how does Derek Lewis keep

2947
02:07:17,920 --> 02:07:20,320
Speaker 3: getting main events? Didn't he not take the Francis and

2948
02:07:20,320 --> 02:07:22,880
Speaker 3: Ghana fight. I suspect that they scratched his back a.

2949
02:07:22,880 --> 02:07:25,360
Speaker 1: Little bit for that point, he probably should have been

2950
02:07:25,480 --> 02:07:27,440
Speaker 1: in Ghana's PFL debuting book and.

2951
02:07:27,400 --> 02:07:28,720
Speaker 2: He said no, And I bet that they're going to

2952
02:07:28,760 --> 02:07:30,760
Speaker 2: reward him with that, so right they will.

2953
02:07:30,800 --> 02:07:33,680
Speaker 1: So we'll be recapping those next Monday. Thank you so much,

2954
02:07:33,720 --> 02:07:37,000
Speaker 1: folks for watching the show, for keeping us alive. Hopefully

2955
02:07:37,080 --> 02:07:39,360
Speaker 1: we're keeping you going just the same. Luke one day

2956
02:07:39,360 --> 02:07:41,120
Speaker 1: a week for now. But if you got a taste

2957
02:07:41,160 --> 02:07:43,680
Speaker 1: of what last week felt like, I could be the future. Okay,

2958
02:07:43,800 --> 02:07:45,960
Speaker 1: expansion coming, evolution coming.

2959
02:07:45,840 --> 02:07:47,920
Speaker 2: And like Shaq said, tell me how my ass tastes.

2960
02:07:48,400 --> 02:07:50,920
Speaker 1: Tell him his toes taste, Luke, that's pretty gross.

2961
02:07:50,960 --> 02:07:53,320
Speaker 2: They are his feet are I mean they're worse than mine.

2962
02:07:53,480 --> 02:07:54,400
Speaker 2: They're worse than mine.

2963
02:07:54,480 --> 02:07:57,640
Speaker 1: I have the medicine to do it, jubilea. I keep

2964
02:07:57,680 --> 02:07:58,920
Speaker 1: forgetting to take it, and you have to take it

2965
02:07:58,920 --> 02:08:01,480
Speaker 1: for like three hundred consecutive days for it to work.

2966
02:08:01,680 --> 02:08:02,120
Speaker 1: Something like that.

2967
02:08:02,160 --> 02:08:03,920
Speaker 3: You can't so like you can take the medication that

2968
02:08:03,960 --> 02:08:06,720
Speaker 3: they prescribe you like the pharmacy, great stuff, but it

2969
02:08:06,760 --> 02:08:07,560
Speaker 3: pummels your liver.

2970
02:08:08,600 --> 02:08:10,560
Speaker 1: I already have enough liver issues, exactly.

2971
02:08:10,560 --> 02:08:11,560
Speaker 2: I don't know if I want to do that. I'm

2972
02:08:11,560 --> 02:08:13,000
Speaker 2: just gonna live with gross ass feet.

2973
02:08:13,160 --> 02:08:16,240
Speaker 1: Well, I could apply the jubilee next week on this table,

2974
02:08:16,280 --> 02:08:16,800
Speaker 1: if you'd like.

2975
02:08:16,920 --> 02:08:18,120
Speaker 2: I would like that.

2976
02:08:17,840 --> 02:08:20,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's so weird and gross. So you get you're like,

2977
02:08:20,960 --> 02:08:23,040
Speaker 1: you think I'm obsessed with your beard. I'm just trying

2978
02:08:23,040 --> 02:08:23,800
Speaker 1: to give this show.

2979
02:08:23,880 --> 02:08:25,880
Speaker 3: I think if you're going to be yeah, you're trying

2980
02:08:25,920 --> 02:08:27,840
Speaker 3: to be an exhibitionist, to be an exhibitionist with your

2981
02:08:27,840 --> 02:08:28,760
Speaker 3: own body, not mine.

2982
02:08:30,040 --> 02:08:31,800
Speaker 1: Oh so if I could, if I'm willing to get

2983
02:08:31,800 --> 02:08:33,960
Speaker 1: a Prince Albert in the studio, then you're like, yeah,

2984
02:08:34,040 --> 02:08:34,520
Speaker 1: let's do it.

2985
02:08:34,520 --> 02:08:35,360
Speaker 2: It's a Prince Albert.

2986
02:08:35,880 --> 02:08:38,000
Speaker 1: The thing through the thing with like the thing.

2987
02:08:39,680 --> 02:08:43,440
Speaker 2: Or like a yeah, oh, like the gauge, the Mettal

2988
02:08:43,480 --> 02:08:44,440
Speaker 2: gauge that goes through.

2989
02:08:44,400 --> 02:08:46,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know that's just some gross.

2990
02:08:45,840 --> 02:08:47,560
Speaker 2: Showing your piss just fly everywhere.

2991
02:08:47,840 --> 02:08:49,600
Speaker 1: That's the end of the show. Thank you very much

2992
02:08:49,680 --> 02:08:53,320
Speaker 1: for Luke Thomas for Long Island, Luke Beyond the Kenny,

2993
02:08:53,680 --> 02:08:57,800
Speaker 1: the other guy. What's the thing I always forget? Deer,

2994
02:08:58,000 --> 02:09:01,720
Speaker 1: my guy, Ni deer to the to the greatest bathroom

2995
02:09:02,120 --> 02:09:03,440
Speaker 1: that's been unsoiled for at.

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Speaker 2: Least one did not I did not go number two.

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Speaker 2: I want to Oh my mom, I promise I'm telling

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Speaker 2: the truth.

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Speaker 1: And to you, the fine listeners out there, thank you

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Speaker 1: for popularizing our interview shows over the week. From Canela,

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Speaker 1: our breakdowns are all that and then some tall, pale

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Speaker 1: and handsome signing off for this day from Manhattan with love.

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Speaker 1: It's morning combat, but we are outing