1 00:00:02,759 --> 00:00:05,320 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:05,360 --> 00:00:17,119 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This He's Talking Cowboys, 3 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 1: screening live from the Dallas Cowboys World Hours at the 4 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 1: Star in Frisco Eta. Here are Mickey Spagnola, Brian Bravis, 5 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:37,560 Speaker 1: Rob Phillips, and Bill Jones, And welcome to D Day 6 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:41,440 Speaker 1: in Dallas. Yes, it's Dirt Day, and it's d Law 7 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 1: Day as well as we've got a DeMarcus Lawrence press 8 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 1: conference coming at you here on Dallas Cowboys dot Com 9 00:00:49,159 --> 00:00:52,280 Speaker 1: at one o'clock Central time. I am Bill Jones, and 10 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 1: Mickey Spagnola is here, Rob Phillips is here, Kent Garrison 11 00:00:57,040 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 1: is here. Brian brought Us is not here. Year, but 12 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 1: we've got an able lsu buy you Bengal replaced half 13 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:08,560 Speaker 1: the size and all the same attitude, but he has 14 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 1: better priorities. Oh come on now, just taking shots walk 15 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:17,039 Speaker 1: in the studio were Master's hat. I don't know how 16 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:18,960 Speaker 1: many I don't know how many people would pass up 17 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:21,479 Speaker 1: an opportunity to go hang out at Augusta so yep, 18 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 1: it en mid corner right now. Not only that that 19 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:27,760 Speaker 1: guy never leaves the building anyway, So you know, go yeah, 20 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 1: get out of here for two days all year, Brian, 21 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:33,319 Speaker 1: good for you. He did the mail bag this morning? Yeah, 22 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:35,400 Speaker 1: he was. He was from Augusta. He texted me at 23 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 1: seven thirty this morning he said, you got the mail bag. 24 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:38,760 Speaker 1: They're about to take my phone because I'm about to 25 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:40,679 Speaker 1: get on the course and walk the course. They're like, yeah, 26 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:42,479 Speaker 1: I got it, bro, I got it. What do they 27 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 1: have a phone check? They take your phone away. Apparently 28 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 1: it's like Texas tech coach Chris Beard takes away the 29 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 1: Red Raider's phone. You know that. So it works, Yeah, 30 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 1: it does well, then it works until the last game 31 00:01:57,040 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 1: got him to a certain point. The sharp contrast a 32 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 1: former Texas tech coach Cliff Kingsbury, who is scheduling cell 33 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 1: phone breaks for his Arizona Cardinals twenty minutes and Bezvicky 34 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 1: shakes his head. That's a difference in generation, right there 35 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 1: across the table breaks, We'll we'll take a cell phone 36 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:19,360 Speaker 1: break here in about twenty minutes. Yeah, well we do 37 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 1: every every show, every twenty minutes. Yeah, every twenty minutes, 38 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 1: we take a cell phone break and check social media. 39 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 1: I'm doing it constantly though. Yeah, during the show, you 40 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 1: just you just retweeted me, So don't act like you 41 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 1: don't get on. What did he retweet? I didn't do 42 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:38,240 Speaker 1: it for almost show though, whatever. Yeah, yeah, what did 43 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 1: you tweet that? He retweeted, just you know, shouting out 44 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 1: the show. Okay, he's on Twitter. Reacts like he doesn't. Yeah, 45 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 1: he retweeted me yesterday what it was? I don't either, 46 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:50,360 Speaker 1: And but Tony dor said, oh yeah, yeah, there was 47 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:53,640 Speaker 1: someone had a it was Tony Dorset's birthday on Sunday, 48 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:56,359 Speaker 1: a sixty fifth birthday by the way, a shout out 49 00:02:56,400 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 1: to Tony d awesome. And someone had some old NFL 50 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:03,560 Speaker 1: films footage of him and kind of reminded you how 51 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:06,160 Speaker 1: fast he was. Yeah. Wow, he can get up and 52 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:08,919 Speaker 1: fast to the hole and his vision which is why 53 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 1: they called him hawk Hawk. They still call him hawk 54 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:15,519 Speaker 1: and his grandson is named Hawk. About that? H A 55 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 1: W K E not your history lesson for the say 56 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 1: learn stuff all over the place. He did not know 57 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:24,760 Speaker 1: that was his nickname. Yep, that's right. Um, All right, 58 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:27,640 Speaker 1: do we dive into Marcus Lawrence or do I rant 59 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:32,240 Speaker 1: about replay? First? Let's rant about replay. Oh okay, I mean, 60 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:34,639 Speaker 1: why would we want to talk about like the generational 61 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 1: Cowboys player that just signed. For sure, we got an hour, 62 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 1: we got an hour. Whatever. Hey, I'm a guest. We 63 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 1: can relate, we can. We can relate replay to the 64 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 1: to the NFL. As humble guest on this show, y'all 65 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:50,120 Speaker 1: do what you want replays rooting sports. I used to 66 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 1: be a proponent, a big time proponent of replay. And 67 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:58,680 Speaker 1: after that disaster last night where you're replaying something thirty 68 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 1: times to figure out that a ball went off a 69 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 1: guy's pinky finger and we still don't have indisputable evidence 70 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 1: that it did. They got it right. Just just suck 71 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:10,840 Speaker 1: the life out of that game. I didn't bother me 72 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 1: one bit. And I saw people rang up because you're 73 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 1: an aggie and you hate the Red Raiders. I don't 74 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 1: hate wrong. I don't want to go that go all right, right, 75 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 1: but it's true. It is true. Did they not get 76 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:23,719 Speaker 1: the call? Right? It did not off a pinky We 77 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:26,800 Speaker 1: do not know? You sure it was not indisputable? Did 78 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:30,840 Speaker 1: you see the ball's rotation change? Yes? I did know 79 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:33,839 Speaker 1: you did not? Yeah I did, No, you did not. Whatever, 80 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 1: I don't I don't see any problem with it. I 81 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 1: don't see any problem with having a system in place 82 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:41,719 Speaker 1: to get something right. And and I'll relate it to 83 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:44,160 Speaker 1: the NFL. Can you imagine what it's gonna be like 84 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:46,719 Speaker 1: this season? On all the past interference? But it's in 85 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:49,280 Speaker 1: the final what two minutes of each half? So it's 86 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 1: and and your number of challenges don't change. So I 87 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:54,599 Speaker 1: don't see the downside of that either, Right, you have 88 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:58,240 Speaker 1: the same amount of chances to get Yeah, but Dan, 89 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:02,480 Speaker 1: who's gonna be like unless there's a really egregious call, 90 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 1: if you start nitpicking on something that's not very objective, 91 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:14,120 Speaker 1: I think I think we've like we've been in this 92 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 1: replay wormhole for so long that I think maybe y'all 93 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 1: forget how terrible it was to not have it. That's 94 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 1: my like, Well, I don't I think you should have it. 95 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:24,279 Speaker 1: I have to sort out when to use it in 96 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 1: the NFL. I just I can guarantee you in basketball 97 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 1: just use it on last second shots at the end 98 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:33,599 Speaker 1: of games. I mean this this crap of but you 99 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:35,600 Speaker 1: say that, you say that, but then what if there's 100 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:38,719 Speaker 1: an egregious example where like it clearly did go off 101 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 1: a guy's knee and the other teams should have the ball, 102 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 1: So what about the other forty minutes of the game 103 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 1: where you can't replay it, well, okay, I think, I mean, 104 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 1: and it changes possessions in basketball. I mean basketball is 105 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:53,039 Speaker 1: a weird sport where like we all acknowledge at the 106 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:55,679 Speaker 1: final two minutes, there's a human there's a human element 107 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:57,840 Speaker 1: in all of it, and so just live with it. 108 00:05:57,839 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 1: There is great for six years whatever with it. Circling 109 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 1: back to the NFL, though, I mean they had to 110 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:06,840 Speaker 1: do something with replay, with pass inter fans they had 111 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:10,800 Speaker 1: there was such a disaster in the Yeah, such an outwaship. 112 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:12,600 Speaker 1: I mean, you had the wrong team in the Super Bowl. 113 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:16,360 Speaker 1: He really did. As it turned out, I still think 114 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 1: it's better to have it than not. And yeah, I 115 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 1: mean you're right that was it was tikie tack and 116 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:24,800 Speaker 1: a little too minute. But it's still it's it's better 117 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 1: to have it than not because I've been on I've 118 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:30,159 Speaker 1: been in those situations where the wrong thing clearly happened 119 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 1: and you don't have a way to look at it, 120 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 1: and it's like the worst feeling in the world. I'd 121 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 1: rather have. But the reason the ball went out of 122 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:38,839 Speaker 1: bounds was because the guy knocked it out of his hand, 123 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 1: right all right, So when it goes out of his hand, 124 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:45,200 Speaker 1: the reason it got knocked out is because he hit 125 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:47,279 Speaker 1: it out of it and at some point it's gonna 126 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 1: leave your hand, right. And my point is whenever that 127 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 1: happens throughout a game, it happens all the time, countless 128 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 1: times during a game where that happens and there's no 129 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:00,160 Speaker 1: review on it because it's not the last minute to 130 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 1: the game. But in basketball, possessions are so important in 131 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 1: that in a particularly in a game like that, where 132 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:08,800 Speaker 1: have you knock the ball out of my hand, at 133 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 1: some point when the ball leaves the back of the 134 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 1: ball is going to be touching my hand, right. Yeah, 135 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 1: that's why that's my pet peeple. Not necessarily yes, if 136 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 1: it's in my hand, but regardless, I trust one other 137 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 1: thing that I would like, Yeah, he's a cowboys. To 138 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 1: relate to what Virginia did, and relate it to the 139 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 1: Cowboys what Virginia did last year after getting beat as 140 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 1: a one seed by a sixteen seed, making history in 141 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:45,680 Speaker 1: the tournament and coming back and winning the thing this year. 142 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 1: You know how motivated they were throughout the off season 143 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 1: and all through this season and then they went it 144 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 1: all We've seen with this Cowboys team, and we see 145 00:07:57,520 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 1: it across the NFL really and there's so many things 146 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 1: elements that go into this and tougher schedule so forth, 147 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 1: where it's a roller coaster. One year you win the division, 148 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 1: next year you don't make the playoffs, up and down, 149 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 1: up and down. And one of the concerns that I 150 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 1: have about the Cowboys team is, all right, how do 151 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 1: they feel about having lost in the divisional playoff round, 152 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 1: winning a playoff game and then losing to the Rams. 153 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 1: Do they feel like that they accomplish something this season? 154 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 1: Or when I look back at the sixties, seventies and 155 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 1: nineties Cowboys, if they didn't win at all, they were 156 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 1: I mean that was it wasn't a disaster season, but 157 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 1: that they disappointing, very not only disappointing it to take 158 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 1: it a step further than that where they were motivated 159 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:48,319 Speaker 1: that okay, we've got to you know, I wonder in 160 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 1: this day and age, yeah, all right, when you lose, 161 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:54,200 Speaker 1: you accomplish something one of the division one of the 162 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:57,240 Speaker 1: playoff game. But you know that up and down nature 163 00:08:57,280 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 1: that we're we've seen, how much is that Okay, Yeah, 164 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:02,840 Speaker 1: we're doing all right? And you don't do quite as 165 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 1: much as what you did in the off season preparing. 166 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:08,239 Speaker 1: This is what you did before, and even maybe even 167 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 1: from putting the team together, you know, not just players. 168 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 1: I think you have to if hear the Cowboys and 169 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 1: I think they did this, you have to peel back 170 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 1: and Sarah, where did we start three and five? It 171 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 1: was going nowhere? And what they were able to do? 172 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 1: Would they win eight nine straight games to get get in? 173 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 1: And you have to look at that in a broad 174 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:30,679 Speaker 1: scope and say that turned out to be a pretty 175 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:34,719 Speaker 1: successful year. But I do think there's a lot of 176 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:37,840 Speaker 1: disappointment in this building and probably still is because once 177 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:40,720 Speaker 1: you get there and I think they felt like they 178 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 1: matched up with LA they had a shot to win 179 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 1: that game, and you know, when it ends so abruptly, 180 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:48,840 Speaker 1: there's a huge disappointment factor. And then you take an 181 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:50,680 Speaker 1: even broader scope and you hear it from the front 182 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 1: office talk about it like you mentioned, build a roller coaster, 183 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 1: like they're well aware of. You know, it's twenty plus 184 00:09:55,840 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 1: years and since they've gotten to the MC title game, 185 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 1: they're tired of this, this roller coaster and every year 186 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:04,960 Speaker 1: it gets harder and harder. So I don't think you 187 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:07,359 Speaker 1: can do anything but look at it as a disappointment 188 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 1: overall because of what your goals are. Ultimately, it's interesting 189 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:13,960 Speaker 1: in a vacuum. In a vacuum, there's every reason to 190 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:15,839 Speaker 1: feel like that season was a step in the right 191 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 1: direction because it's definitely the second youngest roster in the NFL, 192 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:23,440 Speaker 1: third year starting quarterback, very young defense. You know, DeMarcus 193 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 1: Lawrence is like the old head on that defense and 194 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 1: he's only twenty six years old. Having said that, you know, 195 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 1: this isn't a vacuum. This is a team that hasn't 196 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:35,839 Speaker 1: been in the NFC title game in twenty three years, 197 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 1: and they have not followed up a playoff appearance with 198 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 1: another playoff appearance in a decade or more. Six and 199 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 1: oh seven. Yes, yeah, so more than a decade. And 200 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:49,560 Speaker 1: that's like I said, you know, if this was the 201 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns, then you'd probably be fist pumping about the 202 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 1: way the season ended. But it's not. And that's what 203 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 1: gives me pauses. There's a lot of reason for optimism, 204 00:10:58,160 --> 00:11:00,840 Speaker 1: but there's a lot of reason. You know, past experience 205 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 1: suggests that it's kind of like, oh, here we go. 206 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:05,440 Speaker 1: We know how these seasons after playoff trips go, so 207 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 1: this this is gonna be, This is gonna be interesting 208 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:11,080 Speaker 1: with all the young guys that are kind of coming 209 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 1: into their primes right now, it's it's their chance to 210 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:16,080 Speaker 1: kind of put their stamp on it. And but but 211 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:18,400 Speaker 1: you're right, it's been so up and down it's it's 212 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:20,400 Speaker 1: hard to let go of that kind of feeling of 213 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:23,320 Speaker 1: disappointment that accompanies these years. You could answer your own 214 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 1: question by what do you think Jason Garrett's going to 215 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 1: say at the first team meeting, which is Monday, by 216 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:33,040 Speaker 1: the way, Like you think he's gonna walk there and say, Okay, 217 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:37,600 Speaker 1: we're really good. No, he's gonna say we didn't. We're 218 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 1: starting over from scratch, and we didn't make we didn't 219 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 1: get it far enough in the playoffs, And he will 220 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 1: set the tone. I guarantee you that'll be. It was 221 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 1: who is the main personality at And we've seen how 222 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 1: every year is different. You know, you can look at 223 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:57,080 Speaker 1: this year and say, like Dave said, they're a young team, 224 00:11:57,120 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 1: they're only going to get better. You can also look 225 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:02,080 Speaker 1: at their schedule and say, hmmm, that's it's gonna be 226 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:04,920 Speaker 1: tough and Nope, and you're not gonna surprise anybody this year. 227 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:08,439 Speaker 1: Either you're not gonna sneak up on anybody in November December, 228 00:12:08,559 --> 00:12:13,360 Speaker 1: well maybe September eighth, because you're gonna play a tougher schedule, Yeah, 229 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:16,320 Speaker 1: which I am. Usually I roll my eyes at the 230 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:18,960 Speaker 1: first place schedule thing. More often than not. It's two 231 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:23,000 Speaker 1: games if I am no, but it's two games. I 232 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:24,960 Speaker 1: feel a little bit differently this year, to be completely 233 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:27,840 Speaker 1: honest with you, because I don't know, you know, I 234 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 1: might be wrong, but there's just very little doubt in 235 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:32,439 Speaker 1: my mind that the Saints and the Rams are gonna 236 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:35,440 Speaker 1: be They're They're just they're not going anywhere, They're not 237 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:38,520 Speaker 1: falling off. And so it was so many years other 238 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:43,320 Speaker 1: division winners, which the Cowboys in the NFL. You can't, 239 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:45,320 Speaker 1: you know, you can't ever count on anything. But I 240 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:49,080 Speaker 1: feel comfortable on April whatever ninth saying I think the 241 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:50,680 Speaker 1: Saints and the Rams will be in the thick of 242 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:53,439 Speaker 1: it again, just like they were last year. Two games 243 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:55,160 Speaker 1: can make a lot of difference in a division race, 244 00:12:55,320 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 1: no doubt about it, all right, DeMarcus Lawrence one o'clock 245 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 1: Preuss ofference and all right, So how surprised or you 246 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:10,280 Speaker 1: all of you that this thing got done into last week. 247 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 1: I said it, I said it yesterday. I was shocked, 248 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:17,040 Speaker 1: But now that I've had some time to digest it, 249 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:19,680 Speaker 1: maybe I shouldn't have been, because you know, the storyline 250 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 1: this whole time was this thing's got to get done 251 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:25,760 Speaker 1: by mid to late April to give him time to 252 00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:28,439 Speaker 1: have the surgery if they want him available, and Jerry 253 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 1: and Stephen Jones have made it perfectly clear that his 254 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 1: bill of good health is going to be a big 255 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:36,720 Speaker 1: part of their willingness to sign a contract. So it 256 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:39,120 Speaker 1: kind of had to be done by about right now. 257 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 1: So maybe I shouldn't have been surprised, But when we 258 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:44,559 Speaker 1: got word Friday that it was coming down, I was definitely. 259 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:46,720 Speaker 1: I was pretty shocked, and just you don't see these 260 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:48,679 Speaker 1: types of deals happen at this point of the year 261 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:51,960 Speaker 1: very often. Well, I think it just shows you that 262 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:55,760 Speaker 1: they had the deal kind of surrounded and not it 263 00:13:55,920 --> 00:14:00,200 Speaker 1: was time to compromise, and both sides gave a little cobbles, 264 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:02,319 Speaker 1: paid a little more, they took a little less than 265 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:06,920 Speaker 1: what they were asking for, and you get the player 266 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:12,040 Speaker 1: and Stephen Jones on the phone and talk directly, get 267 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:15,600 Speaker 1: the agent out of it, and when he says I 268 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:18,320 Speaker 1: want to be here, and they say, okay, if you 269 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:20,840 Speaker 1: want to be here, this is what we have to do, 270 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 1: and you all of a sudden get it done instead 271 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 1: of having this three way thing where the agents trying 272 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 1: to make himself look good, instead of trying to get 273 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 1: the deal done so he can get his surgery and 274 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:35,880 Speaker 1: be ready to play. And I guarantee you when Jerry 275 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 1: Jones said, you know, if you can't play entire season 276 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 1: because you didn't do your surgery, it depreciates what I 277 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 1: give you the first year. Maybe that finally sunk in. 278 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:48,400 Speaker 1: I can't say I was shocked because I said, a 279 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago, as long as it's always March 280 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:53,640 Speaker 1: madness was still going on, I wasn't that worried about it, 281 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 1: just because you wanted to watch basketball. Well, yeah, I 282 00:14:56,640 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 1: was focusing other things. But I'm kidding. There's you know, 283 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:02,880 Speaker 1: there's still there's still time. You know, we weren't getting 284 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:06,680 Speaker 1: into the summer without something done. That being said, we 285 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 1: had to retape our Blitz segment on Friday because we 286 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 1: were talking about how, hey there's a clock. Yeah, there's 287 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:15,680 Speaker 1: like there's a clock on this saying like Dave mentioned, 288 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 1: because of the surgery that he's got to have on 289 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:20,120 Speaker 1: his shoulder or needs to have on his shoulder, and 290 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:25,000 Speaker 1: we'll have on his shoulder and tomorrow. Yeah, yeah, yeah, right, 291 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 1: But it was surprising because deadlines make deals, and when 292 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 1: the next real deadline is July fifteenth, it you didn't 293 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 1: get a sense there was a lot of traction going on, 294 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:39,280 Speaker 1: which and so it was a surprise. That's kind of 295 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:41,600 Speaker 1: my point is, you know, a week ago, Stephen Joneses 296 00:15:41,640 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 1: and Phoenix using the word impass and saying they're apart, 297 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 1: not a little ways apart, but apart. Then on the 298 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:52,840 Speaker 1: flip side of that, as though, yes, deadlines make deals 299 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:55,760 Speaker 1: and there's no real deadline in April, but kind of 300 00:15:55,760 --> 00:15:59,080 Speaker 1: there's kind of an imaginary dead and artificial yeah, like, hey, 301 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:01,120 Speaker 1: this is the day that has to happen if he's 302 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 1: going to be ready to play football. Yeah, we've been 303 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:05,640 Speaker 1: saying it probably draft time at the at the latest 304 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:08,000 Speaker 1: to try to get him recovered from that, but being 305 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:10,320 Speaker 1: able to rehab in time to be able to start 306 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 1: the season on time that deadline had arrived, I just 307 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:17,160 Speaker 1: I mean, I'll I will file this away as a lesson, 308 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:20,080 Speaker 1: not to jump to conclusions based on what people say, 309 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:23,840 Speaker 1: because just all of the talk coming from from the 310 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 1: from the Joneses, and then you know, Demarcus's agent has 311 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:29,360 Speaker 1: has been very vocal through this whole thing. I did 312 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:31,120 Speaker 1: not have a lot of optimism that it would get 313 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 1: done before the draft put it that way, and I 314 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:36,520 Speaker 1: think it's it's fantastic that it did. I think the 315 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:38,840 Speaker 1: deal worked out great for both sides. Like Mickey said, 316 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 1: it sounds like they were willing to compromise. David David Kanner. 317 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:46,480 Speaker 1: I appreciate his talkativeness because like he if you go, 318 00:16:46,640 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 1: look like he kind of took you behind the curtain 319 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:50,560 Speaker 1: on this thing. I don't know, you know, Albert Brier 320 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 1: wrote about it yesterday, Peter King had a thing about it, 321 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:56,560 Speaker 1: and yeah, like DeMarcus got on the line and was like, 322 00:16:56,640 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 1: let's just get this over with, Like you know, Canner 323 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 1: said he was trying to advise him to, you know, 324 00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 1: ask for a trade in an effort to like, you know, 325 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 1: bump the price up, and the markets just basically didn't 326 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 1: want to. He was like, no, I want to be here, 327 00:17:09,280 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 1: I'll play ball. And I'm shocked that it worked out 328 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:15,680 Speaker 1: as cleanly as it did for everybody. To be honest 329 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:18,680 Speaker 1: with you, I still was surprised it didn't get done 330 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:21,119 Speaker 1: March fifth, because I just felt this stuff you were hearing, 331 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 1: like you thought it could get done by then and 332 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:25,880 Speaker 1: avoid the tag and avoid the you know, another Dez 333 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:30,480 Speaker 1: type situation where there's maybe some hurt feelings. And look, 334 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:32,879 Speaker 1: I mean, his tag was twenty point five million, so 335 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:35,240 Speaker 1: it's got to be the per year average needs to 336 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:37,040 Speaker 1: be somewhere in that range or a little more. And 337 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:38,399 Speaker 1: it turned out what to turn out to be Mick 338 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:41,040 Speaker 1: twenty one ish, twenty one and a half. Yeah, and 339 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:43,400 Speaker 1: he's got sixty five million guaranteed. I think there's only 340 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 1: three guys in the league on defense that have more 341 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:48,440 Speaker 1: guaranteed money in the life of their contract, and those 342 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:51,359 Speaker 1: are arguably the three best defensive players in the National 343 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:54,200 Speaker 1: Football League. And he's he's proven to be a two 344 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:56,159 Speaker 1: time Pro Bowler, so he's right in line there. I 345 00:17:56,160 --> 00:17:58,120 Speaker 1: think it works out good for him too, So there 346 00:17:58,200 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 1: was incentive for both sides to get it done. The 347 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:07,000 Speaker 1: Cowboys getting it done saves him nine point four million 348 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:11,000 Speaker 1: dollars on the salary cap, YEP, because it reduces the 349 00:18:11,040 --> 00:18:14,960 Speaker 1: twenty point five that Rob said, and from his point, 350 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:19,480 Speaker 1: I ain't good on economics, But how much is twenty 351 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:22,800 Speaker 1: five million worth in the bank four months ahead of time? 352 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:25,520 Speaker 1: Sounds pretty nice to me. I'll take it, right, Yep. 353 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:27,320 Speaker 1: I don't know what kind of interest you get, But 354 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:29,959 Speaker 1: not only that, how about that getting a check for 355 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:33,800 Speaker 1: twenty five million dollars. It's he's he lives in a 356 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:36,359 Speaker 1: universe that we don't inhabit. Most people like us to 357 00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:38,880 Speaker 1: get a check for twenty five million, quit our job. 358 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:44,240 Speaker 1: We don't keep playing. I think not to write off 359 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:45,880 Speaker 1: to market. I mean, I think he's entering the prime 360 00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:47,399 Speaker 1: of his career. But I think a big point of 361 00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:50,280 Speaker 1: this too is from the sounds of it, the cowboys 362 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:52,040 Speaker 1: should be able to get out from under this thing 363 00:18:52,080 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 1: pretty cleanly after three years if they want to, which 364 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 1: obviously you'd prefer. He plays the whole deal, but the 365 00:18:57,840 --> 00:19:01,040 Speaker 1: vast majority of mega deals you don't. They don't get 366 00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:03,919 Speaker 1: finished for one reason or another. So yeah, because if 367 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:05,600 Speaker 1: you think about it, if it's one hundred and five 368 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:09,800 Speaker 1: million and the sixty five guaranteed is over the first 369 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:14,000 Speaker 1: three right, right, then that's another four forty million dollars 370 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:16,480 Speaker 1: in the last two years. So you could, you could 371 00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:18,680 Speaker 1: part ways with this. I think that would be Demarcus's 372 00:19:18,760 --> 00:19:21,760 Speaker 1: age thirty season, so he still wouldn't even be that old, right, 373 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:23,800 Speaker 1: so I guess. I mean, I think he's got a 374 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:25,840 Speaker 1: great chance to play the whole thing, but if he doesn't, 375 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:28,159 Speaker 1: it sounds like it's structured really smartly for them to 376 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:29,760 Speaker 1: deal with it in the future. And you would only 377 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:32,560 Speaker 1: have five million and dead money in the next two years, 378 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:35,880 Speaker 1: five million in each of the next two years, So yeah, 379 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:40,560 Speaker 1: it's the total sum looks great, but you're three years 380 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 1: sixty five million, which is another another reason why I 381 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:45,760 Speaker 1: was so smart for them to get this thing done. Like, 382 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:49,080 Speaker 1: he turns twenty seven soon, but he's not twenty seven yet. 383 00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:53,719 Speaker 1: So again, you try to try to drag this thing 384 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:55,480 Speaker 1: out any further than all of a sudden, you're talking 385 00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:58,000 Speaker 1: about signing a twenty eight year old pass rusher or 386 00:19:58,040 --> 00:20:00,600 Speaker 1: a twenty nine year old, then that sounds scarier than 387 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:03,600 Speaker 1: a twenty six year old to me. I think that's 388 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:05,960 Speaker 1: worked out great. Well, we just saw what the twenty 389 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:09,040 Speaker 1: nine year old pass rusher gets and he's on the 390 00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:12,560 Speaker 1: team now. A good point for six million. Good point. 391 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 1: The other thing too, about it is the message it 392 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:17,240 Speaker 1: sends in the locker room. It sends a good message 393 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:19,760 Speaker 1: that this is a leader on the team that guys follow, 394 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:22,720 Speaker 1: that has done it the right way for two years 395 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:25,160 Speaker 1: and came back signed the tag last year and said 396 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 1: all right, yeah, I'll prove it again. And he proved 397 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:30,800 Speaker 1: it and played hurt and proved it. His numbers weren't 398 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:33,280 Speaker 1: the same, but he was still a productive guy. And 399 00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:35,920 Speaker 1: now he's being rewarded. And that's I think that's that's 400 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 1: a message you have to send in the locker room 401 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:39,000 Speaker 1: for a guy that's a leader on your team. I 402 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:41,040 Speaker 1: think wonder if this would have got done sooner, if 403 00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:43,440 Speaker 1: he would have had the surgery and first of February. 404 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:47,879 Speaker 1: It's an interesting question. Hard to say for sure. I 405 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:49,640 Speaker 1: don't I think it would have helped, but I mean 406 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:52,119 Speaker 1: everybody kind of pictured it as he was holding that 407 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:54,440 Speaker 1: over the Cowboys head, but I think at some point 408 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:57,680 Speaker 1: they held it over his head and said, hey, look yeah, So, 409 00:20:57,760 --> 00:21:01,840 Speaker 1: even though it was not intended this way, do you 410 00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 1: think that the trade for Quinn? And now as we 411 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:08,480 Speaker 1: get into a month after free agency and teams have 412 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:11,760 Speaker 1: already spent their money and stuff, that that factored into 413 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 1: DeMarcus sand and he didn't want to be like Dez 414 00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:18,159 Speaker 1: a year ago. Well, I think he's just left with nothing. 415 00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:19,840 Speaker 1: We didn't Yeah, well we need to ask him. But 416 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:21,520 Speaker 1: I do think he probably was looking at it like 417 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:24,479 Speaker 1: I I want to play at the start of the season, 418 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:27,480 Speaker 1: and if I don't have this surgery, what time is 419 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:29,320 Speaker 1: going to take at least three, four or five months 420 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:31,480 Speaker 1: to get this thing right? So what if the Cowboys 421 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:33,600 Speaker 1: pulled the tag, That's what That's what I'm saying. But 422 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:35,400 Speaker 1: I don't know if they pulled the tag and then 423 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:39,119 Speaker 1: then he's out there, and that's another's you know, Like 424 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:42,320 Speaker 1: I said, God, God blessed David Canter for giving us 425 00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 1: the scoop. He said on Monday that you know, we 426 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:47,520 Speaker 1: were never going to turn this into a Levy on 427 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:49,760 Speaker 1: Bell thing like he would have shown up, you know, 428 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:51,320 Speaker 1: for the start of the season. He's not going to 429 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:54,360 Speaker 1: pass up twenty and a half million dollars. But if 430 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:56,639 Speaker 1: he's not healthy, that's a big part. And if it 431 00:21:56,680 --> 00:21:58,159 Speaker 1: had dragged into the summer, you could be in a 432 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 1: situation where you take the tag off. So I think, 433 00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:03,400 Speaker 1: I mean, you get to this point. I think DeMarcus 434 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:05,399 Speaker 1: saw the writing on the wall, so to speak. But 435 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:07,640 Speaker 1: I mean, if another team was gonna if he took 436 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:09,600 Speaker 1: the tag off, another team was going to give him 437 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:13,399 Speaker 1: one hundred and five million dollars salary without having he 438 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 1: can't play for half the season and not really knowing 439 00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 1: the player. Cowboys know the player, you know. But I 440 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:21,640 Speaker 1: do think the Quinn move was more about Gregory all along. 441 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:24,520 Speaker 1: Now that does protect you, It protected you with from 442 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:27,080 Speaker 1: the DeMarcus situation if things didn't work out. But I 443 00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:29,280 Speaker 1: think they all along felt like, all right, we put 444 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:30,720 Speaker 1: this guy on the other side of tank. Oh we 445 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:33,200 Speaker 1: got we got a pretty good mix here, and now 446 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:35,040 Speaker 1: they do or put all three of him on the 447 00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:37,399 Speaker 1: field at the same time if he but if it 448 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:42,200 Speaker 1: remained an impass, okay, then I mean I think DeMarcus 449 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:44,560 Speaker 1: had to look at it. Okay, if we don't budge 450 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:47,840 Speaker 1: and they're not budging, and now the clock's ticking on 451 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:51,520 Speaker 1: me having this surgery and there's a ziggyons out there 452 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:54,760 Speaker 1: or whatever, you know, they could make do and go 453 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:56,840 Speaker 1: ahead and pull it if they if it can't push, 454 00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:59,720 Speaker 1: game to shove on that. But and so I think 455 00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:03,320 Speaker 1: the key on the whole thing was DeMarcus taking it, 456 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:07,040 Speaker 1: taking the bull by the horns himself and basically letting 457 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:09,080 Speaker 1: his agent know, this is where I want to be. 458 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:12,320 Speaker 1: Let's get this thing done. Plus, he was told that 459 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:16,000 Speaker 1: the rehab take Big Gretty to play was going to 460 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:19,159 Speaker 1: take four to five months, so we're right at that, 461 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:22,200 Speaker 1: and was reported yesterday four to six months. I think 462 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:24,840 Speaker 1: Steven may have said, I was told four to five. 463 00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:27,879 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, it's six months. That's October. Yeah, And 464 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:30,320 Speaker 1: if it takes five months from now, he's probably not 465 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:33,439 Speaker 1: participating in training camp. He's probably spending camp. I never 466 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:36,440 Speaker 1: never expected him, don't. Yeah, I don't expect to see 467 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:37,800 Speaker 1: him at camp. I try to get him out of 468 00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:40,800 Speaker 1: favorite OTAs. He's not going to be in mini camp 469 00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:44,040 Speaker 1: for sure. Now, that's something to keep an eye on. 470 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:46,639 Speaker 1: Like I'm I'm glad they got it done on the 471 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:48,840 Speaker 1: timeline that they did. But like I think we said 472 00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:51,280 Speaker 1: in the office, like I'm not, I'm not one hundred 473 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:54,040 Speaker 1: percent convinced he's going to play all sixteen games right now, 474 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 1: which you know, it's early. We'll see. I don't want 475 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 1: to see how that develops as it goes, especially after 476 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:01,639 Speaker 1: he gets the surgery. All right, y'all ready for a 477 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:04,320 Speaker 1: cell phone break. Let's do it. Yeah, yeah, let me 478 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:06,720 Speaker 1: see trying to get a cell phone break. 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If we're lucky, 553 00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:28,760 Speaker 1: give us a call here on Talking Cowboys at eight 554 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:34,720 Speaker 1: eight eight Troy Aikman, Leroy Jordan, Emmett Smith, and Leroy Glover. 555 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:39,160 Speaker 1: That would be eight fifty five twenty two ninety seven. 556 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:42,920 Speaker 1: Do you like that? I like it? All right? What 557 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:45,320 Speaker 1: do you expect the Marcus to say? It is press 558 00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:50,000 Speaker 1: conference today? Anything that? It's a good question because which 559 00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:52,560 Speaker 1: you know, Mick, I haven't been here as long as 560 00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:56,240 Speaker 1: you I know, but this is I'm starting. I'm starting 561 00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:58,400 Speaker 1: my seventh year covering the team, and this is the 562 00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:00,800 Speaker 1: first time they've ever done this. I think a lot 563 00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:03,400 Speaker 1: of that is because of timing. Usually these deals get 564 00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:06,800 Speaker 1: done at training camp where you're not equipped to have 565 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:10,640 Speaker 1: this type of press conference. Really, but this I think 566 00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:13,120 Speaker 1: I think Romo did it. Romo did it when he 567 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:16,000 Speaker 1: signed his hundred million one. Maybe I wasn't here, but 568 00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:18,400 Speaker 1: the last one I can remember in the off season 569 00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:20,800 Speaker 1: was when Teo got a new deal after the O 570 00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:26,640 Speaker 1: seven season. Like O eight off season, Romo, I think 571 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:29,120 Speaker 1: Romo did one, but I'm the last one he did. 572 00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:35,000 Speaker 1: We were at Valley Ranch. It was good Friday, by 573 00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:38,480 Speaker 1: the way, nice So it's a great Friday. So that 574 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:43,880 Speaker 1: was probably his hundred million dollar extension. That was the extension. Yeah, 575 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:47,400 Speaker 1: so before that, so it's been six years because Tyron 576 00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:50,000 Speaker 1: Smith didn't do what they didn't have one. Oh, they 577 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:53,160 Speaker 1: did not know this. Walt I walked them down the 578 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:55,560 Speaker 1: hallway out the door with his wife and so this 579 00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:57,440 Speaker 1: is the first time it's happened. They didn't do it 580 00:29:57,440 --> 00:29:59,120 Speaker 1: for Dez. They didn't do it for Tyron, they didn't 581 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:00,520 Speaker 1: do it for Zach. They and do it for well. 582 00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:02,720 Speaker 1: Carol Owens had one in the Stadium Club at the 583 00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:05,480 Speaker 1: old Texas Stadium in two thousand and eight. He got 584 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:08,600 Speaker 1: a new extension and they didn't have a like a 585 00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:13,000 Speaker 1: press conference. But when the guys have signed their extensions 586 00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:15,920 Speaker 1: in training camp, I mean there was a big yeah, 587 00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:18,560 Speaker 1: they'll make him available. But yeah, but again, you know, 588 00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:21,480 Speaker 1: to have a formal Travis Travis Frederick talked after a 589 00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:24,480 Speaker 1: preseason Travis signed is the day of a preseason game. 590 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:28,920 Speaker 1: Tyr Tyrn signed right before a training camp practice, and 591 00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:32,040 Speaker 1: they made him available. But to call media out here 592 00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:36,120 Speaker 1: on a non normal day to have a press conference 593 00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:39,920 Speaker 1: with ownership and I assume Jason Garrett will be there. 594 00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:42,960 Speaker 1: That's that's not something that they've typically done. And I 595 00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:46,680 Speaker 1: don't know if that's you know, I don't know. I'm 596 00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:48,880 Speaker 1: curious about it, Like is it you know, is it 597 00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:52,160 Speaker 1: like a at a boy for DeMarcus because they're they're 598 00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:55,120 Speaker 1: pumped to They didn't even have a retirement press conference 599 00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:59,040 Speaker 1: for Romo right because he didn't retire. They released him. Technically, 600 00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:01,720 Speaker 1: they granted him his release. That's what the release said. 601 00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:03,760 Speaker 1: Back in their day. For all, I've seen him off 602 00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:08,720 Speaker 1: pretty good. But you know, yeah, this is this is yeah, 603 00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:11,600 Speaker 1: this is not typically this team doesn't handle stuff with 604 00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:14,240 Speaker 1: a ton of pomp and circumstance, you know what I mean, Like, 605 00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:18,240 Speaker 1: you know, we haven't done well, that's the funny thing though, 606 00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:20,600 Speaker 1: you know you got the Star is like there's pomp 607 00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:23,160 Speaker 1: and circumstance around the team. You know, the stadium is 608 00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:24,960 Speaker 1: the best in the world. But like they don't do 609 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:27,280 Speaker 1: these types of things. They don't have press conferences for 610 00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:29,720 Speaker 1: free agents. That's what I was about to say. And 611 00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:31,760 Speaker 1: I think a lot of that is because of the 612 00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:35,040 Speaker 1: changing times as far as the media is concerned, and 613 00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:39,120 Speaker 1: having Dallas Cowboys dot Com and you can have a 614 00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:42,400 Speaker 1: Nick Eatman or a Lindsay Draper or Rob Phillips interview 615 00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:45,160 Speaker 1: a Robert Quinn when he comes through to sign his contract. 616 00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:47,520 Speaker 1: Point and so there's no reason to have all the 617 00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:50,920 Speaker 1: media come out here and do a press conference with 618 00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:53,840 Speaker 1: a Robert Quinn or a Randall Cobb or something something 619 00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:56,880 Speaker 1: like that, which makes me bitter, but we just still 620 00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:59,920 Speaker 1: it off Dallas Cowboys dot Com. That works, But others 621 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:05,240 Speaker 1: that's kind of attributed. It's made the media department's a 622 00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:07,480 Speaker 1: job easier because they don't have to have press conferences. 623 00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:09,680 Speaker 1: They can just okay, just make them available to Dallas 624 00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:12,960 Speaker 1: Cowboys TV. We'll put it on the website. Which that's 625 00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:15,560 Speaker 1: you're absolutely right. And you know in years past we 626 00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:18,920 Speaker 1: might have sent Lindsay into the office to get five 627 00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:21,040 Speaker 1: minutes of tank and yeah, you could have done that 628 00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:25,240 Speaker 1: with Lawrence. But discounting makes this one more special. Discounting 629 00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:29,520 Speaker 1: the guys that either resigned when we were in training camp. 630 00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:35,040 Speaker 1: Is this the biggest free agent signing they've had in 631 00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:40,160 Speaker 1: quite some time in terms of money or money and importance? 632 00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:44,680 Speaker 1: The last well, this is I mean, he's up there 633 00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:46,240 Speaker 1: with some of these other guys that I mean signed 634 00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:48,360 Speaker 1: long term, though, I mean tyring. Like Dave mentioned some 635 00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:50,760 Speaker 1: of the offensive linemen. I mean, Zack Martin got a 636 00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:53,760 Speaker 1: huge deal a year ago in terms of in the office. 637 00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:55,760 Speaker 1: I mean they extended Romo for one hundred million and 638 00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:58,760 Speaker 1: twenty thirteen, and then I guess Brandon Carr would have 639 00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:00,560 Speaker 1: been the last one. I mean, I don't you. Tank 640 00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:02,720 Speaker 1: is a free agent, even though he technically hadn't signed 641 00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:05,280 Speaker 1: his Well, okay, so he signed. He signed a new 642 00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:08,840 Speaker 1: contract because the other guys they franchise ended up playing 643 00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:13,760 Speaker 1: for their franchise tag, right, Anthony Spencer twice. Yeah. The 644 00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:16,400 Speaker 1: other thing very recent, they didn't have anything for Witten 645 00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:20,720 Speaker 1: when he resigned. Good points Adams. Maybe, maybe, maybe we're 646 00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:24,080 Speaker 1: overthinking this or I just can't remember. If if you 647 00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:27,640 Speaker 1: just looked at a free agent who signed for eighty 648 00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:31,520 Speaker 1: or ninety million, they hadn't done it. They haven't signed 649 00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:34,760 Speaker 1: a guy in my car the last one and that 650 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:39,360 Speaker 1: was what twenty twelve, twenty twelve, about fifty million, five years, 651 00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:41,920 Speaker 1: five million dollars. But again to Rob's point, I mean, 652 00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:45,120 Speaker 1: Tank isn't a free agent. He's a homegrown player, right, 653 00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:48,760 Speaker 1: But and they've so it's curious. I wonder if it's 654 00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:51,320 Speaker 1: I wonder if it's kind of a gesture like, hey, 655 00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:55,200 Speaker 1: no hard feelings, you're the guy. Let's you know you're 656 00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:56,920 Speaker 1: going to be the face of our defense, which I 657 00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:59,640 Speaker 1: mean he he is held back in the day, they 658 00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:02,880 Speaker 1: had a press conference when they signed Banks to be 659 00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:08,759 Speaker 1: a backup quarterback. Wow. Banks, I'm just excited because he's 660 00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:11,319 Speaker 1: the best quote on the team. So something, yeah, like 661 00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:13,560 Speaker 1: something fun's gonna come out of this. That's that's the thing. 662 00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:17,040 Speaker 1: When Bill you asked Dave, what's he gonna say? He's 663 00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:19,239 Speaker 1: an unpredictable quote, and that's what makes him the best 664 00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:22,160 Speaker 1: because he says what's on his mind. And I think 665 00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:25,760 Speaker 1: you hit it that this is I spoke this earlier. 666 00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:29,839 Speaker 1: He's a guy that he's homegrown here. He's been through 667 00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:32,840 Speaker 1: some stuff. He's had the surgeries, he was suspended for 668 00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:35,080 Speaker 1: four games a couple of years ago, and he's developed 669 00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:37,120 Speaker 1: into this top guy that has so much respect from 670 00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:40,239 Speaker 1: his teammates. It is it is kind of a little 671 00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:42,040 Speaker 1: bit of a celebration, and it's a good message to 672 00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:44,040 Speaker 1: the locker room that we're rewarding this guy. I want 673 00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:46,239 Speaker 1: to say that I hadn't really I haven't thought that 674 00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:48,439 Speaker 1: far ahead. That's a really good point on your part. 675 00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:51,040 Speaker 1: Is you know, I can imagine vividly, you know, you 676 00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:52,919 Speaker 1: go into the locker you go into the locker room 677 00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:55,080 Speaker 1: every day during football season, and you get to know 678 00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:59,040 Speaker 1: these guys, and I can just imagine players kind of 679 00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:01,640 Speaker 1: in an alternate world where this deal doesn't get done. 680 00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:04,840 Speaker 1: I can imagine players being like, well, what's the point, Like, 681 00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:06,799 Speaker 1: they didn't give Tank, they didn't give Tank any money, 682 00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:08,800 Speaker 1: So what are they gonna what's that say about me? Whereat? 683 00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:11,040 Speaker 1: You know, if you're a if you're a buyer in 684 00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:14,280 Speaker 1: Jones or an Ezekiel Elliott or a Cheeto, a Woozier 685 00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:17,960 Speaker 1: or a Michael Gallup, this probably makes you feel pretty 686 00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:19,919 Speaker 1: good that, hey, if I do my job, they're gonna 687 00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:22,720 Speaker 1: take care of me. So and I think that's important 688 00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:25,319 Speaker 1: for the morale of your locker room. Yeah, who who 689 00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:27,879 Speaker 1: asked him? So, what are you gonna buy? First thing 690 00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:30,400 Speaker 1: you're gonna buy with your money? Who asked him that? 691 00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:32,760 Speaker 1: I said, Who's gonna be the first one to ask? 692 00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:36,200 Speaker 1: You know, his answer will be He'll probably none of 693 00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:39,440 Speaker 1: your businesses. It'll be a good quote one way or 694 00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:42,600 Speaker 1: the other. I guarantee you that all right, Let's go 695 00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:49,520 Speaker 1: to Bronlow in Bermuda. Hey, Hey, good afternoon, gentlemen, Good afternoon, 696 00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:54,720 Speaker 1: my favorite place on earth. Yes, hey, Rob, it's great, 697 00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:56,719 Speaker 1: thank you so much for it. I got it hanging, 698 00:35:56,800 --> 00:36:00,880 Speaker 1: no problem. It was great visiting data so David Hellman 699 00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:04,520 Speaker 1: because they have to say hi him a few times. 700 00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:08,920 Speaker 1: Cool cool man. Hey, um, gentlemen, Um, the interior of 701 00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:12,920 Speaker 1: our defensive line, defensive tackles. Are they going to add 702 00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:16,520 Speaker 1: somebody they're in in the free agency or are they 703 00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:21,480 Speaker 1: going to draft somebody there? High? Because if okay, against 704 00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:25,600 Speaker 1: the Rams, they were able to run through our defensive 705 00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:29,840 Speaker 1: line because they were kind of light. Are we missing someone? 706 00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:34,080 Speaker 1: This beef to go? This tyring Crawford at Malie Connins 707 00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:40,239 Speaker 1: there and another clash in? Is this the prototypan all 708 00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:44,960 Speaker 1: being changed to toll cornerbacks. I'm expecting Chris Rashad not 709 00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:49,080 Speaker 1: to be here next season. It's being our successful. The 710 00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:51,600 Speaker 1: next coach coming in, is he going to be forced 711 00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:55,279 Speaker 1: to coach these guys? Are they're gonna look for more 712 00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:59,800 Speaker 1: guys like Shorter the traditional cornerbacks to to bring to 713 00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:04,040 Speaker 1: me team? Okay, thanks guys, thank you, all right, thank 714 00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:08,480 Speaker 1: you thinking ahead. I like that call. Can I go backwards? Yes, 715 00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:11,400 Speaker 1: I don't want no short corners. Yeah, you've always said that, 716 00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:14,200 Speaker 1: which I don't think he has something he gets short people. 717 00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:16,799 Speaker 1: I don't think that. I wonder why. I don't think 718 00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:19,440 Speaker 1: the Cowboys want short corners either. They never did. And 719 00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:21,920 Speaker 1: even you know, obviously you know Jordan Lewis is a 720 00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:25,800 Speaker 1: shorter guy, but if you follow along with their draft parameters, 721 00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:28,960 Speaker 1: it's it's all about length for them. For a guy 722 00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:31,960 Speaker 1: his height, Jordan Lewis has pretty impressively long arms. So 723 00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:34,920 Speaker 1: even if Chris Richard leaves, I don't think they're all 724 00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:38,320 Speaker 1: of a sudden gonna start drafting five eight cornerbacks, although 725 00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:41,439 Speaker 1: maybe they don't. Maybe they aren't looking at these six 726 00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:45,600 Speaker 1: two six three horses, which that could be wide receivers 727 00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:48,719 Speaker 1: instead of certainly you know, maybe maybe it won't be 728 00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:51,040 Speaker 1: pick fifty eight. But I like they're going to draft 729 00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:53,040 Speaker 1: a guy for Richard to work with, Like I kind 730 00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:55,920 Speaker 1: of just get that feeling, you know, a six two 731 00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:58,360 Speaker 1: sixty three guy that can fit in this scheme, and 732 00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:01,760 Speaker 1: Byron Jones obviously one into his contract, as is Anthony 733 00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:06,120 Speaker 1: Brown in hip surgery as well. I mean it's something 734 00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:10,160 Speaker 1: does not sound like a need on the surface, but 735 00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:13,560 Speaker 1: very very well could be. Yes, that's right. And if 736 00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:16,279 Speaker 1: you look beyond that at the safety position too, and 737 00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:18,400 Speaker 1: that we all have marked that one as a target, 738 00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:22,719 Speaker 1: potentially heat is up in a year. Um, Cavon's up 739 00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:26,080 Speaker 1: in a year on a one year deal. I mean 740 00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:28,640 Speaker 1: this secondary could look vastly different one year from now. 741 00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:32,680 Speaker 1: As far as d tackle, I mean, if I had 742 00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:35,320 Speaker 1: to put money on it, I think either pick fifty 743 00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:37,960 Speaker 1: eight or pick ninety, assuming it falls the right way, 744 00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:41,800 Speaker 1: I think will be a defensive tackle. Yep, Um I do. 745 00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:44,680 Speaker 1: I think. I think the signings of Kerry Hyder and 746 00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:49,440 Speaker 1: Christian Covington could be sneaky good. Particularly Covington. You know 747 00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:52,240 Speaker 1: he's not He's not a sexy name by any stretch, 748 00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:55,080 Speaker 1: but it reminds me a lot of Um Terrell McClean 749 00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:58,040 Speaker 1: took him, got him out of the same team he 750 00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:01,319 Speaker 1: came up from Houston, played three for in there. Um. 751 00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:03,640 Speaker 1: You know, it's not a position that generates a ton 752 00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:06,440 Speaker 1: of stats, but you know, he's a space eater. He managed, 753 00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:08,640 Speaker 1: he managed to get pressure. I think you know, he 754 00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:10,840 Speaker 1: think he had nine sacks there over the time he 755 00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:13,239 Speaker 1: was there. Again playing a position that doesn't generate a 756 00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:16,839 Speaker 1: ton of sacks. Um. So those two guys adding up 757 00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:19,800 Speaker 1: with Antoine Woods and Malie Collins, I think could be 758 00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:22,560 Speaker 1: really nice. At the same time, I still think they're 759 00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:24,759 Speaker 1: gonna try to draft a guy because those guys are 760 00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:27,799 Speaker 1: only placeholders, right, they're one year deals and they didn't 761 00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:29,759 Speaker 1: give him a heck of a lot to sign. No, 762 00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:35,879 Speaker 1: so if those are guys that easy, thanks, but no thing. 763 00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:38,120 Speaker 1: And there's gonna be competition there if you draft a 764 00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:40,560 Speaker 1: guy because I I didn't do that. We've all been 765 00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:43,359 Speaker 1: saying tackle and I think right rightfully so. But if 766 00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:45,400 Speaker 1: you look at the numbers that they've got on their 767 00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:47,800 Speaker 1: D line right now, you know you keep ten D 768 00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:51,279 Speaker 1: lineman and you're already at that number, and that's not 769 00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:54,520 Speaker 1: even counting Gregory. Um if he can get back on 770 00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:57,160 Speaker 1: the field this year, we'll see, and then you throw 771 00:39:57,160 --> 00:39:58,600 Speaker 1: a draft pick in there. So there you know there 772 00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:01,040 Speaker 1: maybe a guy that's signed that you know gets beat out. 773 00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:03,359 Speaker 1: Like Mickey said, there's gonna be some competition, but they've 774 00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:06,320 Speaker 1: just been they've been sniffing around these D linemen for 775 00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:09,600 Speaker 1: the last two months. You know, whether it's whether it's 776 00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:12,760 Speaker 1: Gerald Willis down in Miami. Rod Marinelli went down there himself. 777 00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:16,640 Speaker 1: You know. Uh, he worked out with LJ. Collier, the 778 00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:18,640 Speaker 1: the TCU kid. I know he's more of an end 779 00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:21,560 Speaker 1: than a tackle. But either way, like they've been looking 780 00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:23,640 Speaker 1: at these guys and a lot of them have versatility too. 781 00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:25,880 Speaker 1: And he brought us is in love with Zach Allen. 782 00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:28,120 Speaker 1: He's not in love with him. He thinks he's got 783 00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:30,080 Speaker 1: a strong possibility to be the pick here. And again 784 00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:32,239 Speaker 1: that's a guy who could move in inside and out. 785 00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:35,839 Speaker 1: So you know, even with DeMarcus under contract, I think 786 00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:38,600 Speaker 1: that's somewhere they're going to be sniffing on day two. 787 00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:42,480 Speaker 1: Give me a scouting report, mister Aggie over there on 788 00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:46,040 Speaker 1: is it Kingsley? Keiki? How do you pronounce his last name? 789 00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:48,880 Speaker 1: That's right? It is? Yes, you know, but you're an Aggie. 790 00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:53,520 Speaker 1: You watched Aggie games, right? Yeah? Not at the levels 791 00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:58,839 Speaker 1: I like him, he mentioned. Um Willis is one. Um 792 00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:03,160 Speaker 1: Collier from TCU is another guy that kind of can 793 00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:06,560 Speaker 1: play the edge or move inside and play three technique. 794 00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:09,040 Speaker 1: I think you're just looking for some flexibility, a guy 795 00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:12,080 Speaker 1: that could play maybe both spots to help out that rotation. 796 00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:16,080 Speaker 1: And I mean on. Hey on a long enough timeline. Great, 797 00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:20,600 Speaker 1: you have DeMarcus Lawrence, Quinn's only under contract for a year, Tyrone. 798 00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:23,360 Speaker 1: It seems like we've been saying this forever, but you know, Tyrone, 799 00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:26,480 Speaker 1: Crawford's approaching the end of his contract. That's getting to 800 00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:28,719 Speaker 1: the point where there's not a lot of dead money 801 00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:30,440 Speaker 1: in the future. If you decide you want to move 802 00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:33,800 Speaker 1: on from that, we'll see what twenty nineteen holds for 803 00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:38,520 Speaker 1: Taco Charlton. But right now, you know, he doesn't look 804 00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:41,000 Speaker 1: like halfway through his rookie contract. He doesn't look like 805 00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:44,480 Speaker 1: a guy that you're gonna build around. So I think 806 00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:47,520 Speaker 1: because if you think, if you think about, Okay, Lawrence 807 00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:52,359 Speaker 1: on your strong side. Now, who's the backup behind him? 808 00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:55,840 Speaker 1: Because he only played about sixty five percent of the 809 00:41:55,880 --> 00:42:01,719 Speaker 1: snaps last year? Okay, Well are you sure? No, I'm 810 00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:04,800 Speaker 1: saying no. I'm just saying that he can. You know, 811 00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:08,719 Speaker 1: we've seen glimpses, right, but it's not a sure thing. 812 00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:12,560 Speaker 1: I mean, the rotation is fascinating. Great, you have Tank 813 00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:17,319 Speaker 1: and Quinn starting. Crawford played right side last year, Does 814 00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:19,279 Speaker 1: he need to this year? I mean, you can move 815 00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:23,320 Speaker 1: him right. Yeah, he's a chess piece, you got Swiss 816 00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:26,800 Speaker 1: army knife. Because if if you get Gregory backed and 817 00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:29,279 Speaker 1: Quinn and Gregory hold down the right side, and then 818 00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:33,120 Speaker 1: you know Tacco where Taco fits in. Tacco always has 819 00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:35,439 Speaker 1: seemed more like a left end than a right. But again, 820 00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:37,320 Speaker 1: I mean, do you need him to play those snaps? 821 00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:40,160 Speaker 1: If you have Tank and Tyrone over there, these are 822 00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:44,680 Speaker 1: all things we can start Tyrone playing inside instead of outside. Well, 823 00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:46,800 Speaker 1: like we were talking about, if you add a tackle 824 00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:49,000 Speaker 1: in the draft and you've added these two free agents, 825 00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:52,960 Speaker 1: I don't think he has to. So basically the outside 826 00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:58,280 Speaker 1: you're looking at the true defensive tackles on this roster. Okay, 827 00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:00,600 Speaker 1: everyone of them is going into the last year of 828 00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:03,440 Speaker 1: the contract. I don't believe there is a true defensive 829 00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:05,560 Speaker 1: tackle on this team with a Yeah, with the long 830 00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:09,240 Speaker 1: terms of Elite Collins contract this year, Antoine Woods contract, 831 00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:17,640 Speaker 1: Christian Covington contract, Kerry Hyder after he'll clusive or restricted, 832 00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:21,640 Speaker 1: he's exclusive, So I mean, okay, I'm under control. They'll 833 00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:24,040 Speaker 1: be here. He'll be here if they wanted me, right, Okay, 834 00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:27,000 Speaker 1: But yeah, that's a lot that speaks to the need 835 00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:30,800 Speaker 1: right there, because I think when when we approach the draft. 836 00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:32,919 Speaker 1: We have to look at it, not what the roster 837 00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:36,399 Speaker 1: looks like right now, fast forward a year, fast course 838 00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:39,560 Speaker 1: two years, and and you can really look at the 839 00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:43,719 Speaker 1: position of needs on defense, defensive tackle and safety and 840 00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:47,160 Speaker 1: cornerback for that reason, when you look at it that way, 841 00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:51,160 Speaker 1: and then at Hecket linebacker, Damian Wilson, gun and so 842 00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:55,560 Speaker 1: John Lee, it's probably going last year or whatever. You know, 843 00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:59,960 Speaker 1: and um and you all and for special teams purposes, 844 00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:03,520 Speaker 1: you know, you always need to always draft a linebacker, 845 00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:07,839 Speaker 1: like try almost always. So that's I mean, and it's 846 00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:10,680 Speaker 1: and it's a position where guys get hurt too. Absolutely, 847 00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:12,960 Speaker 1: there's not many positions they could take that you would 848 00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:15,200 Speaker 1: sit there and go, why why the hell they do that? 849 00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:18,960 Speaker 1: I mean, how about offensive line? Last year? All right, 850 00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:23,800 Speaker 1: who's the There was the center who the Bears drafted, 851 00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:25,400 Speaker 1: who was a first round and I can't remember his 852 00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:27,120 Speaker 1: name off the top of my head right now. And 853 00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:30,080 Speaker 1: I'm sitting there looking at the draft, going, Okay, that 854 00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:34,040 Speaker 1: might be the best guy available for him. Okay, And 855 00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:38,000 Speaker 1: I remember I remember talking with Todd Archer and Todd Todd, Oh, 856 00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:40,880 Speaker 1: they can't invest another first round draft pick in an 857 00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:44,600 Speaker 1: offensive lineman. Well, and behold what happens in August. The 858 00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:48,680 Speaker 1: multiple time Pro Bowls center is out for the year, 859 00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:51,600 Speaker 1: and and then they drafted an offensive guard in the 860 00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:54,920 Speaker 1: second round. So what's the difference, you know? But my 861 00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:58,640 Speaker 1: point is, what looks like you don't have a need, 862 00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:02,000 Speaker 1: all right, just give it time, you've got a need. 863 00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:05,440 Speaker 1: There tis Bryant the year before. Sure, where you could 864 00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:08,680 Speaker 1: have taken a wide receiver the year before, and we 865 00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:10,520 Speaker 1: didn't know Dez Bryant was going to the last year 866 00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:14,480 Speaker 1: of the beauty of it is career, Mickey, You're absolutely right, Like, 867 00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:18,320 Speaker 1: there's not a single there's one position. No, there's not 868 00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:20,319 Speaker 1: a single position where I wouldn't understand why they would 869 00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:23,000 Speaker 1: draft a guy. But there's also only one position where 870 00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:24,960 Speaker 1: I feel like they need to draft a guy that's 871 00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:28,359 Speaker 1: running back, purely from a numbers standpoint. But I think 872 00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:31,120 Speaker 1: they have done an even better job of ensuring themselves 873 00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:33,719 Speaker 1: than usual, Like that's been their mo this whole time. 874 00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:36,680 Speaker 1: But they have an added guy, you know, Quinn. Quinn 875 00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:38,920 Speaker 1: is better than any free agent that they've brought in. 876 00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:40,440 Speaker 1: And I know they traded for him, but you get 877 00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:43,320 Speaker 1: my point, I Loca is better than what they've typically 878 00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:46,200 Speaker 1: brought in. Randall Cobb is so much better than what 879 00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:48,160 Speaker 1: they've typically brought in. So I think they've done a 880 00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:53,279 Speaker 1: better job of ensuring themselves against draft need than they 881 00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:55,759 Speaker 1: usually do. The only place they haven't insured themselves is 882 00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:58,440 Speaker 1: running back. Yep, that's the only spot which and you 883 00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:04,480 Speaker 1: got what Jackson? There is us jack Baris Jackson. There's 884 00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:07,239 Speaker 1: also a hand. There's there's at least four or five 885 00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:09,360 Speaker 1: guys that are on the street right now that you 886 00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:11,640 Speaker 1: could sign if you wanted to. Yeah, running backs are 887 00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:15,920 Speaker 1: sitting out there. Um, so I think it's time for 888 00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:17,920 Speaker 1: another cell phone break. All right, we're glave to that. 889 00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:19,759 Speaker 1: Are you tired? 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And the three 950 00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:45,640 Speaker 1: things are deep dive facial cleanser, Supreme Cream, triple cushion 951 00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:53,600 Speaker 1: shave lather and double duty face moisturizer for twenty five 952 00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:59,480 Speaker 1: dollars Voice moisturizer moisturizer. So if you get those three things, 953 00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:01,920 Speaker 1: you know, Dave and I, that would make it easier 954 00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:04,719 Speaker 1: if we decide to shave these things off. Hey, Well, 955 00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:07,120 Speaker 1: and if you don't want to. I've got the I've 956 00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:09,480 Speaker 1: got the beard wash at home, and it's fantastic. So 957 00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:12,239 Speaker 1: they got a little bit of everything. They had a beard. 958 00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:16,800 Speaker 1: I grew my beard during the twenty fourteen season. I 959 00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:20,799 Speaker 1: remember vividly, and it's never coming off. Yeah, I mean, 960 00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:24,200 Speaker 1: it just looks so natural. I agreed. Thank you, Bill, 961 00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:27,280 Speaker 1: I appreciate you. There's a there's a old badge picture 962 00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:30,120 Speaker 1: of Dave. It looks like, how do you describe yourself? 963 00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:34,920 Speaker 1: I look like a depressed like mill worker. It's with 964 00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:37,879 Speaker 1: three kids, and I look I look bad. I look 965 00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:40,440 Speaker 1: bad without a beard. You look not saying I look 966 00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:43,239 Speaker 1: great with the beards, but I look worse without it. 967 00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:46,600 Speaker 1: So I know what that looks like. Thank you. I 968 00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:48,480 Speaker 1: worked with a bunch of those guys when I was 969 00:50:48,560 --> 00:50:52,520 Speaker 1: in college in the summer. See Mick knows get Jack 970 00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:55,480 Speaker 1: Black dot com. Okay, I'll do that. It's great. This 971 00:50:55,760 --> 00:50:58,120 Speaker 1: all right, Let's go to Nebbie and Silver spring Man. 972 00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:05,160 Speaker 1: Hello Nebbie, uh uh hi, guys. First of all, I'm 973 00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:09,440 Speaker 1: ecstatic that we were able to sign DeMarcus Lawrence to 974 00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:13,480 Speaker 1: a long term contract. And I have a question and 975 00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:18,200 Speaker 1: that is, uh, do you all believe that Cedric Wilson 976 00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:26,400 Speaker 1: has the ability to replace Cole Beasley as our slot. 977 00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:39,400 Speaker 1: Uh uh uh uh a receiver. Take care of Thanks 978 00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:42,040 Speaker 1: for being patient with me, and have a great week, 979 00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:47,880 Speaker 1: all right, all right, Cedric Wilson. And I'll be honest, 980 00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:50,920 Speaker 1: I didn't get chance to I didn't study him going 981 00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:52,839 Speaker 1: into the draft last year and didn't get a chance 982 00:51:52,920 --> 00:51:55,560 Speaker 1: to watch him much. I actually got six round draft there, 983 00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:57,319 Speaker 1: I guess because we were talking about him a lot 984 00:51:57,360 --> 00:51:59,440 Speaker 1: in the office, so I went back and watching Boise stuff. 985 00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:02,160 Speaker 1: He played slot a little bit inside and out, but 986 00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:08,120 Speaker 1: he's not that classic shifty, dynamic slot player. I don't. 987 00:52:08,120 --> 00:52:10,719 Speaker 1: I don't think he's really a natural slot. This is 988 00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:13,000 Speaker 1: just my impression of him. This is one of those 989 00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:16,520 Speaker 1: classic things where like in the in the modern you know, 990 00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:18,120 Speaker 1: it sound like one of the old guys, like in 991 00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:20,200 Speaker 1: the modern day and age of social media, Like if 992 00:52:20,239 --> 00:52:22,680 Speaker 1: you're not if you're not pumping him up as the 993 00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:26,319 Speaker 1: heir apparent to Cole Beasley, then you hate him, which 994 00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:29,200 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know anything about Cedric Wilson because, 995 00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:32,640 Speaker 1: like I I watched him during the draft. He practiced 996 00:52:33,239 --> 00:52:36,680 Speaker 1: exactly like none times with the Cowboys. I think he 997 00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:39,239 Speaker 1: heard his shoulder like two days into camp, went to 998 00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:44,600 Speaker 1: IR immediately because they wanted to reserve his rights. Yeah, 999 00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:46,120 Speaker 1: they didn't want to have to cut him. I have 1000 00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:49,160 Speaker 1: all the reason in the way. I feel as optimistic 1001 00:52:49,239 --> 00:52:51,200 Speaker 1: as you want. That's great, He's going into camp, he's 1002 00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:53,680 Speaker 1: he's here working out, He's here, you know, he's He's 1003 00:52:53,719 --> 00:52:56,440 Speaker 1: definitely one of these young guys that understands the importance 1004 00:52:56,480 --> 00:52:58,800 Speaker 1: of being here. He's been here all offseason, he was 1005 00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:00,560 Speaker 1: around the team while he was on I Are all 1006 00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:03,359 Speaker 1: last year. Uh, not knocking him for that at all, 1007 00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:06,560 Speaker 1: but he's a sixth round pick, um, And I just 1008 00:53:07,080 --> 00:53:10,960 Speaker 1: I don't know why you would assume anything. Like My 1009 00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:13,400 Speaker 1: point being is the presence of Cedric Wilson on this 1010 00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:16,160 Speaker 1: roster would not stop me from drafting a guy if 1011 00:53:16,239 --> 00:53:18,760 Speaker 1: he was the best player available. Don't ask yourself who's 1012 00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:23,759 Speaker 1: who's the who's the backup outside receiver? Right? And well, well, 1013 00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:29,359 Speaker 1: I'll just run down the receivers on the tall Brown. Yeah, 1014 00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:33,240 Speaker 1: I was gonna mention Noah Brown is you got Cooper 1015 00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:36,320 Speaker 1: and Gallup, you got Randall cop, you got Tavon Austin, 1016 00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:40,840 Speaker 1: you got Alan Hearns, you got Noah Brown, Cedric Wilson, 1017 00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:45,080 Speaker 1: that's Lance Lenore so Hearns and oh that's a good 1018 00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:48,360 Speaker 1: It's an interesting point, Mick, because Noah Brown and Alan 1019 00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:51,560 Speaker 1: Hearns both and we know Hearns can play in the slot, 1020 00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:54,759 Speaker 1: and we've been talking about it all spring, but they 1021 00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:57,560 Speaker 1: both kind of feel more like X's than Z's, right with, 1022 00:53:57,719 --> 00:54:00,920 Speaker 1: I mean, other than Michael Gallop, it might be Cedric 1023 00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:03,680 Speaker 1: Wilson who might be the next best suited a name 1024 00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:06,080 Speaker 1: that I'm really intrigued by. Again, you don't want to 1025 00:54:06,080 --> 00:54:09,320 Speaker 1: project too much onto anything in the offseason, but Devin 1026 00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:12,160 Speaker 1: Smith is here. He was picked thirty seven in the 1027 00:54:12,200 --> 00:54:17,000 Speaker 1: twenty fifteen NFL draft. Acl injuries have completely sidetracked his career. 1028 00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:22,600 Speaker 1: He's got nine career catches, no reason whatsoever to yeah, 1029 00:54:22,719 --> 00:54:27,360 Speaker 1: Ohio State Buckeye average twenty one yards per catch, no 1030 00:54:27,560 --> 00:54:30,960 Speaker 1: reason whatsoever to expect anything from him. You should not 1031 00:54:31,080 --> 00:54:33,440 Speaker 1: do that. But if he can get out to training 1032 00:54:33,480 --> 00:54:37,440 Speaker 1: camp and rediscover that old form, that could be really intriguing. 1033 00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:39,920 Speaker 1: That's that's something that I've got my eye on. Again. 1034 00:54:40,200 --> 00:54:42,719 Speaker 1: Wouldn't stop me from drafting a receiver, but another one 1035 00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:45,600 Speaker 1: year deal. But he's a futures guy, future guy. That's 1036 00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:47,640 Speaker 1: a classic Will McClay move. He'll bring in a guy 1037 00:54:47,680 --> 00:54:49,680 Speaker 1: that was drafted high. They love to do that and 1038 00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:51,600 Speaker 1: just take a look at him and see, if you know, 1039 00:54:51,719 --> 00:54:54,640 Speaker 1: maybe they can unearth whatever had him highly rated to be. 1040 00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:57,640 Speaker 1: Sometimes it doesn't pan out whatsoever, but they've hit. They've 1041 00:54:57,760 --> 00:55:00,560 Speaker 1: hit doing that a few times and have done it. 1042 00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:03,719 Speaker 1: Costs you nothing. Jonathan Cooper got a season out of him. 1043 00:55:04,239 --> 00:55:07,440 Speaker 1: Rolando McClain gave you a season before he kind of 1044 00:55:07,719 --> 00:55:11,319 Speaker 1: went off the rails, but played really well for a year. 1045 00:55:11,520 --> 00:55:14,400 Speaker 1: So to answer Nebbie's question, I just never thought of 1046 00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:16,640 Speaker 1: Wilson as an inside guy. I always thought of him 1047 00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:19,439 Speaker 1: as an outside guy. Maybe he can play inside. He does. 1048 00:55:19,640 --> 00:55:22,600 Speaker 1: He's an outside guy who's yeah, he's he can do it, 1049 00:55:22,719 --> 00:55:24,920 Speaker 1: But I'm not. I mean, I'm not pegging that on him. 1050 00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:27,600 Speaker 1: To me, I think Alan hearns like he can do it. 1051 00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:31,000 Speaker 1: But you don't think of him as a dynamic slot player. 1052 00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:34,000 Speaker 1: I don't think he has that skill set. I would 1053 00:55:34,040 --> 00:55:35,400 Speaker 1: age it's the guy that can play all over the 1054 00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:36,880 Speaker 1: formation if you can get him on the field. I 1055 00:55:36,920 --> 00:55:40,000 Speaker 1: would rather draft a guy who possesses that skill set. Yeah, 1056 00:55:40,600 --> 00:55:44,560 Speaker 1: and it doesn't have to be Isabella, you know, has 1057 00:55:44,640 --> 00:55:46,920 Speaker 1: to be Debo. I mean I would love that. I 1058 00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:50,120 Speaker 1: don't think it'll happen, but he was one of He's 1059 00:55:50,160 --> 00:55:52,560 Speaker 1: one of what three wide receivers that was invited to 1060 00:55:52,600 --> 00:55:55,319 Speaker 1: the facility, so it's not completely out of the realm 1061 00:55:55,360 --> 00:56:02,120 Speaker 1: of Possibilitybobo Hardman out of Georgia as another guy. I 1062 00:56:02,800 --> 00:56:05,560 Speaker 1: won't be surprised if they draft the receiver. I could 1063 00:56:05,600 --> 00:56:07,600 Speaker 1: say that about every position, but those guys. You would 1064 00:56:07,600 --> 00:56:10,000 Speaker 1: have to take him the second, right, right, I think 1065 00:56:10,040 --> 00:56:13,319 Speaker 1: the only position I would be completely floored to see 1066 00:56:13,360 --> 00:56:17,120 Speaker 1: them drafts quarterback. I know half of our listeners just 1067 00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:19,600 Speaker 1: got mad hearing me say that, but that would be 1068 00:56:19,640 --> 00:56:22,800 Speaker 1: pretty surprising. You should pay attention. You drafted a quarterback 1069 00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:25,279 Speaker 1: last year, right, give him the opportunity to show what 1070 00:56:25,320 --> 00:56:27,359 Speaker 1: he can do again this year when you're under his belt. 1071 00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:30,359 Speaker 1: Cooper Rush will be a restricted free agent next year, 1072 00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:32,400 Speaker 1: so you could even resign him if you want to. 1073 00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:34,960 Speaker 1: Right behind Deck of course, I mean, no, I meant 1074 00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:42,239 Speaker 1: to be the starter. Oh this good kidding? Yeah, you 1075 00:56:42,280 --> 00:56:45,200 Speaker 1: guys talking about um. They're tied in spot because it's 1076 00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:48,080 Speaker 1: such a deep draft. Wouldn't shock me either if something 1077 00:56:48,200 --> 00:56:50,399 Speaker 1: just fell on their lap, like we love this guy, 1078 00:56:50,560 --> 00:56:53,520 Speaker 1: and how about how much is he gonna play this year? 1079 00:56:53,680 --> 00:56:57,320 Speaker 1: But Jake ben Waugh asked, how about Dabien Harris in 1080 00:56:57,400 --> 00:57:01,000 Speaker 1: the second round running back Alabama? No, Mick would love it. 1081 00:57:01,840 --> 00:57:07,560 Speaker 1: Damian Harris alabamis I heard he was very impressive interviewing. 1082 00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:09,959 Speaker 1: We know, we know the Cowboys like him. He's another 1083 00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:11,919 Speaker 1: guy that was here. We know they need a running back. 1084 00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:16,200 Speaker 1: That's awful rich for me? Is he what? He's not 1085 00:57:16,440 --> 00:57:21,160 Speaker 1: a scatback? He is just a well rounded They didn't 1086 00:57:21,160 --> 00:57:22,920 Speaker 1: ask him, they didn't ask him to catch the ball 1087 00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:26,920 Speaker 1: a whole lot in college, but he could for three 1088 00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:29,439 Speaker 1: year starter for Alabama. I think he backed up Derrick 1089 00:57:29,480 --> 00:57:31,520 Speaker 1: Henry for a year and was kind of their lead 1090 00:57:32,080 --> 00:57:34,320 Speaker 1: guy of their committee for the last three years. Great 1091 00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:38,360 Speaker 1: like super high character guy. I just fifty eight feels 1092 00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:41,040 Speaker 1: so rich. That's a little high. It's it feels very 1093 00:57:41,160 --> 00:57:43,320 Speaker 1: rich because of what you're gonna be asking Zeke to do. 1094 00:57:43,520 --> 00:57:45,000 Speaker 1: How much of a role is he going to play? 1095 00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:47,640 Speaker 1: And you can come at me and say, oh, well, 1096 00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:50,360 Speaker 1: he could be Zeke's air, which like it's too soon 1097 00:57:50,440 --> 00:57:52,560 Speaker 1: to draft that guy. Zeke's still got two years on 1098 00:57:52,640 --> 00:57:55,720 Speaker 1: his deal. If you even if you don't resign him, 1099 00:57:55,760 --> 00:57:57,160 Speaker 1: he's got two years on his deal. You don't need 1100 00:57:57,200 --> 00:57:58,760 Speaker 1: to draft that guy right now. It reminds me of 1101 00:57:58,840 --> 00:58:00,920 Speaker 1: taking tight ends in the second round when Jason Witten 1102 00:58:00,960 --> 00:58:02,600 Speaker 1: was in his prime. It's like, it's like, yeah, it's 1103 00:58:02,640 --> 00:58:04,680 Speaker 1: a talented player, but you were trying to play two 1104 00:58:04,760 --> 00:58:06,640 Speaker 1: tight ends a lot, and they well, they never did 1105 00:58:06,800 --> 00:58:10,080 Speaker 1: no because they never developed into that guy. But Zeke's 1106 00:58:10,080 --> 00:58:12,240 Speaker 1: gonna play. He played eighty nine percent of the snaps 1107 00:58:12,320 --> 00:58:14,760 Speaker 1: last year, and you know, health willing, which the same 1108 00:58:14,800 --> 00:58:17,560 Speaker 1: thing again. It honestly, it would be nice to find 1109 00:58:17,640 --> 00:58:19,760 Speaker 1: a running back who's good enough to take more of 1110 00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:23,120 Speaker 1: those snaps to take five Can you find it? Third 1111 00:58:23,200 --> 00:58:25,280 Speaker 1: fourth round? I think that's as high as I would go. 1112 00:58:25,520 --> 00:58:27,880 Speaker 1: They've got and who knows, he may he ran a 1113 00:58:27,920 --> 00:58:32,320 Speaker 1: four or five seven. You know, who's to say he's 1114 00:58:32,360 --> 00:58:35,080 Speaker 1: going to be a second round draft pick. He could Well, 1115 00:58:35,240 --> 00:58:37,240 Speaker 1: you're saying he could go in the first. No, I 1116 00:58:37,280 --> 00:58:42,000 Speaker 1: could sell a third round he might go. And Marco 1117 00:58:42,080 --> 00:58:45,680 Speaker 1: Murray was pick seventy one, I think early third Cowboys 1118 00:58:45,800 --> 00:58:49,360 Speaker 1: pick at ninety, which that's the that's what sucks with 1119 00:58:49,640 --> 00:58:51,439 Speaker 1: when you have a pick this late, as you're like, well, 1120 00:58:51,520 --> 00:58:53,160 Speaker 1: I don't know how I feel about him in and 1121 00:58:53,320 --> 00:58:55,200 Speaker 1: in the second round, but you're not picking till we 1122 00:58:55,400 --> 00:58:57,320 Speaker 1: look at the running back class this year. If Josh 1123 00:58:57,440 --> 00:58:59,840 Speaker 1: Jacobs is your only first round picking, he may not 1124 00:58:59,920 --> 00:59:01,720 Speaker 1: be a first pick. It could be one of those 1125 00:59:01,840 --> 00:59:05,240 Speaker 1: years where the running backs are pushed down. I just 1126 00:59:05,360 --> 00:59:08,040 Speaker 1: think which to that point, I think the value will 1127 00:59:08,080 --> 00:59:09,640 Speaker 1: be there in the fourth round, which is where the 1128 00:59:09,680 --> 00:59:12,800 Speaker 1: Cowboys have two picks. Right, Yeah, that's what Oh my gosh, 1129 00:59:14,400 --> 00:59:17,840 Speaker 1: I would do backflips if that guy got put on 1130 00:59:17,880 --> 00:59:22,720 Speaker 1: this roster. But I will see, I don't know. It's no, 1131 00:59:22,880 --> 00:59:25,320 Speaker 1: he might be a fourth, third, four, third, fourth. Yeah, 1132 00:59:26,880 --> 00:59:28,760 Speaker 1: you could talk me into it at ninety, but I'd 1133 00:59:28,840 --> 00:59:31,400 Speaker 1: rather do it in the fourth round. Agreed. All right 1134 00:59:32,280 --> 00:59:35,760 Speaker 1: for talking Cowboys for this week, and we will dive 1135 00:59:36,120 --> 00:59:40,880 Speaker 1: deep into the draft next week. Study up, study up 1136 00:59:40,960 --> 00:59:43,520 Speaker 1: next week for Karen the press conference at one o'clock 1137 00:59:44,320 --> 00:59:48,200 Speaker 1: at one o'clock. Yes see you later, stick it right 1138 00:59:48,280 --> 00:59:50,240 Speaker 1: up your rear. Here, here you go. This has been 1139 00:59:50,280 --> 00:59:53,480 Speaker 1: a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas 1140 00:59:53,520 --> 00:59:54,720 Speaker 1: Cowboys Football Club.