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Speaker 3: And Dan and Tye, welcome back to the salid verbal

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Speaker 3: That's okay, Daniel. It is week eleven. The last couple

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Speaker 3: Why not snap into slim Jim Saturday this week away?

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Speaker 2: Now there's a number of teams here that started slowly.

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Speaker 3: let's just dive in and time of the week. My

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Speaker 3: It is LSU at seven and two, it is Arkansas

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Speaker 3: This rivalry goes back one hundred and twenty years. Over

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Speaker 3: Don't even want to see him around here? Points spread's

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Speaker 3: just bet Bama. That said, most of the projections I

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Speaker 2: You know that this it's a de facto Minorkey Car

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Speaker 3: I kind of like the narrative of Miszoo plays hard.

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Speaker 1: They won this.

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Speaker 2: Game by twenty eight last year and thirty two of

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, I like Notre Dame here. I think I

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Speaker 1: Damn.

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Speaker 3: Oklahoma minus State feels like a good play to me.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I am taking Virginia. I am taking what I

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Speaker 3: Lose games elite losers.

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Speaker 2: They might be one of the better elite losers this year.

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Speaker 1: Whatever.

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Speaker 2: I think Illinois gets sacked together. I think they're a

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Speaker 2: To me, I'm with you on West Virginia. I wish

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Speaker 2: Kentucky should stomp them. I like Indiana plus forty it's

437
00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:29,639
Speaker 2: just too much. It's too much. Ohio State's going to

438
00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:32,520
Speaker 2: very comfortably win this game. Too many points. I think

439
00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:36,119
Speaker 2: the win total is somewhere around fifty seven, so that's

440
00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:40,280
Speaker 2: looking at forty nine to eight. I think Indiana can

441
00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:44,359
Speaker 2: score ten to thirteen points in garbage time whatever. I

442
00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:46,440
Speaker 2: like Virginia Tech against Duke how about that?

443
00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:47,719
Speaker 3: So do I? So do? I.

444
00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:51,639
Speaker 2: I think Virginia Tech is kind of an abomination to

445
00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:54,760
Speaker 2: watch because of their offense, but I think quietly, and

446
00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:57,879
Speaker 2: it obviously makes sense given who their coach is, Brent Priy. Quietly,

447
00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:01,480
Speaker 2: their defense, especially upfront, has been pretty impressive against not

448
00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:03,720
Speaker 2: great teams. But I think they can keep that game close.

449
00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:06,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a seven point win for Duke yeah, I'm

450
00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:08,720
Speaker 3: with you ten and a half the line. Let's move

451
00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:10,840
Speaker 3: over to the three point thirty block if we will.

452
00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:15,120
Speaker 3: This is a big game. This is a very big game.

453
00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:16,160
Speaker 1: Tell me which it is.

454
00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:22,040
Speaker 3: This is Alabama minus twelve on the road at Ole Miss.

455
00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:25,720
Speaker 3: Bama is seven and two. Ole misses eight and one.

456
00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:28,680
Speaker 3: They're both kind of on the fringes of that top ten,

457
00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:31,520
Speaker 3: the playoff ranking that we mentioned at the top of

458
00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:33,560
Speaker 3: the show. I don't know about you. I am in

459
00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:39,439
Speaker 3: such a weird place right now with Alabama. Same like

460
00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:43,000
Speaker 3: for a generation, this has been the best team in

461
00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:46,159
Speaker 3: college football. Even when you found something that was a

462
00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:48,639
Speaker 3: little bit of a weakness, you could always kind of

463
00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:52,960
Speaker 3: explain it away by saying, yeah, but it's Bama. They're

464
00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:55,600
Speaker 3: gonna figure it out. They always figure it out. I

465
00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:58,080
Speaker 3: don't know if you can yeah Bama or yeah, but

466
00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:02,560
Speaker 3: Bama it in twenty twenty two, it feels like all

467
00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:04,639
Speaker 3: season I've been waiting for them to kind of snap

468
00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:07,840
Speaker 3: out of it. We just may need to accept that

469
00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:10,560
Speaker 3: they're not gonna snap out of whatever it is that

470
00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:14,720
Speaker 3: they actually are gettable this season. We've seen it twice now.

471
00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:17,720
Speaker 3: It could have been worse, could have lost that game

472
00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:20,040
Speaker 3: on the road at Texas. I don't know if it's

473
00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:22,480
Speaker 3: the lack of the go to guy out wide. I

474
00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:24,879
Speaker 3: don't know if it's a combination of the mistakes and

475
00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:28,080
Speaker 3: the penalties. Is it a scheme thing with Bill O'Brien,

476
00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:29,040
Speaker 3: I don't know what it is.

477
00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:30,960
Speaker 1: Secondary has been all over the place.

478
00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:33,120
Speaker 3: You know, Yeah, I don't know what it is. They're really,

479
00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:38,840
Speaker 3: really good, but they're just not unbeatable in the way

480
00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:42,600
Speaker 3: that they've been and oddly that feels a little uncomfortable

481
00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:43,160
Speaker 3: in this chair.

482
00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:46,680
Speaker 2: They've also been kind of disappointing on the road, both

483
00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:48,520
Speaker 2: on the field and as it relates to the line,

484
00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:50,960
Speaker 2: in the way that they've played down to teams or

485
00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:53,320
Speaker 2: not been able to separate from teams or made too

486
00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:55,760
Speaker 2: many mistakes. You look at the Texas game early on.

487
00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:58,720
Speaker 2: I don't think this is a team built to be excellent.

488
00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:02,200
Speaker 2: I think they've got t horrifically talented players. Bryce Young

489
00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:05,520
Speaker 2: at his peak is incredible. But you just listed four

490
00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:08,000
Speaker 2: or five things that are kind of wrong with Alabama

491
00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:08,480
Speaker 2: right now.

492
00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:09,359
Speaker 1: And it's okay.

493
00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:12,200
Speaker 2: If the offensive line is an issue, they can scheme

494
00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:13,960
Speaker 2: around that. They can count on their defense, they can

495
00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:17,320
Speaker 2: count on whatever The problem is the secondary has been

496
00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:20,560
Speaker 2: an issue. The offensive line has been an issue, Bryce Young,

497
00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:22,879
Speaker 2: decision making has been an issue, play calling has been

498
00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:25,640
Speaker 2: an issue, Stops and starts have been an issue, Penalties

499
00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:28,520
Speaker 2: have been an issue. So I just I don't love

500
00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:30,680
Speaker 2: ol Miss, but at home as a double digit dog

501
00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:33,720
Speaker 2: right twelve twelve, I'm happy to take those points. I

502
00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:37,080
Speaker 2: just am thrilled to And you can run straight at

503
00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:39,600
Speaker 2: Alabama at times, as we've seen, and that's what Ole

504
00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:42,159
Speaker 2: Miss is going to do. You know, Lane Kiffin is

505
00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:44,840
Speaker 2: going to try to win this game on every single play.

506
00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:46,879
Speaker 2: He's not going to play for field position or anything

507
00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:49,840
Speaker 2: like that. And it bit him last year, but the

508
00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:54,320
Speaker 2: year before he was freaking dangerous calling plays. So I'm

509
00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:58,800
Speaker 2: gonna go ole Miss here. I don't I doubt my

510
00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:02,879
Speaker 2: confidence in ole Miss outright, but yeah, coming down to

511
00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:04,879
Speaker 2: a weird game, another game on the road, correct on

512
00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:07,440
Speaker 2: the road, row, Yeah, worn down.

513
00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:09,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm going Ole Miss here.

514
00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:11,159
Speaker 3: I'm not going to fall into the same trap that

515
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:14,440
Speaker 3: I've fallen into most weeks with Alabama. And I think

516
00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:16,840
Speaker 3: I'm gonna do it. Well you're doing I'm gonna take

517
00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:19,000
Speaker 3: the points here, Yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna take Old

518
00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:21,480
Speaker 3: Miss points at home. They were on bye last week,

519
00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:24,280
Speaker 3: just sort of watching everything go down like that as well. Yeah,

520
00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:27,480
Speaker 3: they'll be competitive here for many of the reasons you described,

521
00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:30,280
Speaker 3: Lane Kiffin. I like it trying to win, trying to

522
00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:32,639
Speaker 3: win it on every play. That will very much be

523
00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:35,880
Speaker 3: his mo here. I don't think they will win either,

524
00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:39,200
Speaker 3: for a multitude of reasons, not the least of which

525
00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:42,600
Speaker 3: is a defense that underperformed the entire month of October

526
00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:44,919
Speaker 3: mm hmm and an offense that sort of went in

527
00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:47,240
Speaker 3: the tank against LSU. But I think it's something like

528
00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:48,720
Speaker 3: thirty four to twenty four Bama.

529
00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:49,920
Speaker 1: I think.

530
00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:51,280
Speaker 3: I think Old Miss covers at.

531
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Speaker 2: Home, okay, fair enough. I think it's even closer than that.

532
00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:56,040
Speaker 2: I think I have like thirty eight thirty.

533
00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:59,200
Speaker 3: Three, three point thirty on Fox Maryland at six and three.

534
00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:01,360
Speaker 3: Penn stayed at seven to two. Penn State's a ten

535
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:04,320
Speaker 3: point favorite at time of recording.

536
00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:05,000
Speaker 1: Hmmm.

537
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:09,240
Speaker 3: The tongue of Iiloa brothers are both healthy, I believe.

538
00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:10,560
Speaker 1: Yes, Oh good, terrific.

539
00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:12,359
Speaker 3: I like hearing that we need we need a website

540
00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:16,440
Speaker 3: for the a Twitter feed stubbed my TOEA doc or

541
00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:18,800
Speaker 3: whatever it is. Like something something to keep track of

542
00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:21,639
Speaker 3: this so that so that we're not expending energy on

543
00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:26,200
Speaker 3: it every week. I think Maryland profiles as a quintessential

544
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:30,239
Speaker 3: pain in the ass team this season, okay, because they

545
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:32,840
Speaker 3: have really exciting pieces on offense. They play really hard

546
00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:35,679
Speaker 3: for Mike Loxo. They always have, and this is clearly

547
00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:38,520
Speaker 3: the best team he's had since he took the job.

548
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:42,960
Speaker 3: The defense has taken a huge step forward this season.

549
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:44,640
Speaker 3: They had like the eightieth best year. I was going

550
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:46,800
Speaker 3: through and looking at this. They had like the eightieth

551
00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:50,959
Speaker 3: best defense last year. Right now they're forty ninth, fiftieth okay,

552
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:55,320
Speaker 3: so considerably better. It could change, obviously as they play

553
00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:58,880
Speaker 3: tougher teams down the stretch, but still represents a pretty

554
00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:03,240
Speaker 3: good jump forward at Penn State this week home next

555
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:05,720
Speaker 3: week against Ohio State, We'll see what Maryland has in

556
00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:09,760
Speaker 3: the tank here. I hope they can stay healthy. I

557
00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:16,440
Speaker 3: am unsure about this point spread, though. The point spread

558
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:19,879
Speaker 3: creeps me out a little bit because really, yeah, my

559
00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:23,280
Speaker 3: read on Penn State is at there a legit top

560
00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:26,800
Speaker 3: fifteen team that I do not trust to win by

561
00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:30,720
Speaker 3: more than ten in any of their big games.

562
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:37,120
Speaker 2: I'm going local Yakos not home dog of the week,

563
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:39,880
Speaker 2: but just to shout out Yakos, Penn State's my lack

564
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:40,560
Speaker 2: of the week.

565
00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:42,800
Speaker 1: Luck of the week.

566
00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:51,040
Speaker 2: I never like to put stock in a team whose

567
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:55,840
Speaker 2: most impressive results are losing close. Like, is what is

568
00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:59,480
Speaker 2: appealing about scoring ten points? I know it was windy

569
00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:02,240
Speaker 2: and everything like that, ten points at Wisconsin last week.

570
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:05,320
Speaker 2: Now they're going to a more difficult place to play

571
00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:08,240
Speaker 2: because of how good, how much better Penn State seems

572
00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:11,440
Speaker 2: to be than Wisconsin. They score ten points, they're beat

573
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:15,719
Speaker 2: up at quarterback. They play Indiana close, they play Northwestern close,

574
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:19,200
Speaker 2: like they lose to Purdue close. They lose to Michigan close,

575
00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:23,720
Speaker 2: and that's the best result of the season. Like beating

576
00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:27,480
Speaker 2: Michigan State by two touchdowns has aged appropriately. Probably in

577
00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:31,280
Speaker 2: Michigan State I think has improved. Maybe it's there second act.

578
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:36,160
Speaker 2: But what is if James Franklin always loses close and

579
00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:38,800
Speaker 2: impressively to Ohio State, what does James Franklin do as

580
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:43,120
Speaker 2: it relates to Maryland? He beats them up right right?

581
00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:46,400
Speaker 3: I I don't know why I don't trust him to

582
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:47,640
Speaker 3: cover this point spread, but.

583
00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:48,280
Speaker 1: Oh I love it.

584
00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:50,600
Speaker 3: I think they win by three touchdowns if you're I mean,

585
00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:52,200
Speaker 3: I hope they do him a Penn State alum, but

586
00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:56,280
Speaker 3: I just feel like Maryland is good enough to hang

587
00:29:56,400 --> 00:30:01,280
Speaker 3: with teams. They hung with Michigan and for a good

588
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:04,360
Speaker 3: chunk of that game. The danger with betting Maryland is

589
00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:07,840
Speaker 3: that they are also prone to those pinata moments that yeah,

590
00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:10,920
Speaker 3: I actually talked about with regard to Penn State before.

591
00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:14,840
Speaker 3: Where we saw to Michigan, they turned it over on

592
00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:18,480
Speaker 3: three straight drives, the game suddenly gets out of hand,

593
00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:21,200
Speaker 3: despite the fact that they played pretty well up until

594
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:26,520
Speaker 3: that point. So I think the number is right on. Man,

595
00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:28,760
Speaker 3: I wouldn't touch that. I think it's thirty eight twenty

596
00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:32,360
Speaker 3: eight something. Penn State wins, but it's thirty eight twenty eight.

597
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:33,520
Speaker 3: It's right on the number.

598
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:37,560
Speaker 2: Couldn't disagree more. I think they very comfortably win this game.

599
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:40,040
Speaker 2: I don't think Maryland's good. You look like, if Maryland,

600
00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:42,080
Speaker 2: what's the record right now, six and three, six and three?

601
00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:45,640
Speaker 2: They're six and three, If they could very well be

602
00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:48,040
Speaker 2: four and five or something like that, with how they've

603
00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:51,280
Speaker 2: played this year and put up the exact same stats,

604
00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:53,960
Speaker 2: I think it's a deceiving number. I think Maryland is

605
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:56,760
Speaker 2: a five hundred ish team, and I like Penn State.

606
00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:58,920
Speaker 2: I think, especially later on in the year, I think

607
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:01,320
Speaker 2: that favors a team that's much more talented and deep

608
00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:04,680
Speaker 2: like Penn State is, especially on defense at home, second

609
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:06,000
Speaker 2: straight week on the road from Maryland.

610
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:10,560
Speaker 3: Now, yeah, okay, we disagree. Let's go to another one here.

611
00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:12,680
Speaker 3: I had to throw this one on there. Okay, I

612
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:15,920
Speaker 3: had to talk about UCF Tulane. Of course, you don't

613
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:17,960
Speaker 3: have to. It's it's you don't have to say. You

614
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:19,880
Speaker 3: don't have to defend it. It's a great game. It's

615
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:23,120
Speaker 3: a top twenty five matchup, right, Yeah, Tulane is favored

616
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:26,480
Speaker 3: by two at home. This is on ESPN two. If

617
00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:30,960
Speaker 3: you bet the over on UCF wins at the start

618
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:34,200
Speaker 3: of the season over nine and a half wins, you

619
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:36,680
Speaker 3: will be watching this one with much intrigue. I know

620
00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:39,240
Speaker 3: we have UCF people who listen to this show. Of course,

621
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:42,840
Speaker 3: here is the way this works out for UCF. In

622
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:45,360
Speaker 3: order for them to hit that over, they need to

623
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:50,760
Speaker 3: win this game. This is the biggest hurdle. Meanwhile, Tulane's

624
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:52,680
Speaker 3: over under was six. They hit it like a month ago.

625
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:55,600
Speaker 3: Tulane's having a great year, big year for the Green Wave.

626
00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 3: This is a veteran team in Tulane. They are led

627
00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:02,200
Speaker 3: by defense. They beat Kansas State back in Week three.

628
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:05,600
Speaker 3: That win, slash loss, whatever you want to call it,

629
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:08,320
Speaker 3: whichever perspective you want to view it from, has aged

630
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 3: pretty well because Tulane's a good team. Because Tulane has

631
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:13,520
Speaker 3: been one of the best stories in college football this season,

632
00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:17,600
Speaker 3: tied for last in the conference last year. Where they're

633
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:23,880
Speaker 3: at now. So as for this game, John Rice Plumbley

634
00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:26,320
Speaker 3: is a game time decision, Your boy, John Rice plumbly

635
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:29,880
Speaker 3: not ideal game time decisions. Not Him's gonna be my guy,

636
00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:32,320
Speaker 3: Mikey Keane. By the way, it's one of my favorite

637
00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:34,000
Speaker 3: coaching tropes when they're like, we have two guys who

638
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:34,920
Speaker 3: can run this offense.

639
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:36,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, we feel good.

640
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:38,880
Speaker 3: You're hearing a lot of that this week. I think

641
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:42,480
Speaker 3: it's true here. I like UCF. I like them a lot.

642
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:44,719
Speaker 3: I like their offense a lot. I'm gonna go Knights,

643
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:46,200
Speaker 3: I am not.

644
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:47,720
Speaker 1: I'm going with the Green Wave.

645
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 2: I'm going to go with a good defense at home

646
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:53,280
Speaker 2: to win this game, not comfortably, but with quarterback uncertainty,

647
00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:55,960
Speaker 2: with Tulane being as good as they are, preventing big

648
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:59,239
Speaker 2: plays with Pratt being as good as he is, and

649
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:02,640
Speaker 2: I think he's okay, not excellent, but good. I think

650
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:06,400
Speaker 2: UCF's defense there are some holes. I don't believe u

651
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:09,720
Speaker 2: cfs past defense is especially impressive this season, but I'm

652
00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:11,360
Speaker 2: going off of numbers here I have. I could not

653
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:15,360
Speaker 2: point to specific things on film. Let's be honest, I am.

654
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:18,520
Speaker 2: I think it's a good matchup for Tulane. I think

655
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:21,040
Speaker 2: going with a good defense at home in a big

656
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:25,720
Speaker 2: game with quarterback uncertainty, happy to do it, go green Wave.

657
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:29,120
Speaker 3: Got a couple other matchups here that I want to

658
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:31,880
Speaker 3: rattle off, and we can pick and choose which ones

659
00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:36,960
Speaker 3: are meaningful to us. Three point thirty Louisville on the

660
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:41,479
Speaker 3: road at Clemson. Clemson now eight and one, seven point spread.

661
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:46,400
Speaker 3: We've also got South Carolina Florida. Florida favored by eight

662
00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:50,880
Speaker 3: in that afternoon block. Wisconsin, Iowa. I saw you reposted

663
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:53,640
Speaker 3: the nature film on the YouTube, Charls. If you have

664
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:55,280
Speaker 3: not seen that, we'll put that again out on.

665
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Speaker 1: Social MEDDA.

666
00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:00,640
Speaker 3: I think yeah, so you can get to it. Wisconsint

667
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:02,160
Speaker 3: favored by one and a half on the road at

668
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:06,120
Speaker 3: Iowa Nebraska a twenty nine point dog on the road

669
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:09,959
Speaker 3: at number three Michigan Michigan nine and zero looking good.

670
00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:14,680
Speaker 3: Iowa State minus one on the road at Oklahoma State.

671
00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:18,080
Speaker 3: We've got Miami a one and a half point dog

672
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:21,200
Speaker 3: on the road at Georgia Tech. Does not say a

673
00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:27,400
Speaker 3: lot for the Crystal Ball era here thus far, Northwestern

674
00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:31,400
Speaker 3: pretty big dog on the road at Minnesota Boston College

675
00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:36,960
Speaker 3: dog against NC State excuse me? And then ASU Wazoo

676
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:41,719
Speaker 3: and Appstate Marshall to close out that afternoon block? Which

677
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:44,759
Speaker 3: games are meaningful to you besides all of them?

678
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:49,160
Speaker 2: I like Marshall with the better defense at all, although

679
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:51,640
Speaker 2: they've been up and down, but I like Marshall's ability

680
00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:53,200
Speaker 2: to defend. I think they might have Do they have

681
00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:55,480
Speaker 2: the number one pass defense in America right now?

682
00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:56,480
Speaker 1: Just in terms of.

683
00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:58,840
Speaker 3: The defense ascide right the defensive side, I don't know

684
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:01,040
Speaker 3: where they rank with pass defense. I like app State

685
00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:03,640
Speaker 3: there actually really yeah. I think I'm on I think

686
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 3: I'm on app State there, and.

687
00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:05,560
Speaker 1: I like defense at home.

688
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 2: I think app State is is uh trend is skating

689
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:10,759
Speaker 2: on name alone at this point.

690
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:12,160
Speaker 1: I think they're just too inconsistent.

691
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:15,000
Speaker 2: I like NC State big. You know we're on You're

692
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:17,200
Speaker 2: on the MJ. Morris train in hopes of getting keep

693
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 2: it going Lerious game.

694
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:21,880
Speaker 3: Next year hashtag delirious it's.

695
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:25,960
Speaker 2: Getting Northwestern just likes mucking up games, even though they

696
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:28,879
Speaker 2: don't do anything especially well. I think Minnesota is muck

697
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:31,520
Speaker 2: up a ble, So I'm gonna go with Northwestern to

698
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:34,919
Speaker 2: lose that game unimpressively by thirteen or fourteen points in cover.

699
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:38,040
Speaker 2: I like Georgia Tech here. Miami is the is America's

700
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:41,359
Speaker 2: worst team against the spread. Each week Las Vegas says, oh,

701
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:43,960
Speaker 2: Miami can't be that bad, right, and Miami's like, oh sure, no,

702
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 2: definitely we can. So twenty six straight drives without scoring

703
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:51,840
Speaker 2: a touchdown. Georgia Tech at least frisky five hundred ish.

704
00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:54,160
Speaker 1: In the ACUC. I think it is their destiny.

705
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:55,280
Speaker 3: They're four and five.

706
00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:58,360
Speaker 2: They're four and five. Are they three and three in conference?

707
00:35:58,440 --> 00:35:59,320
Speaker 1: Yeah? Forget the record.

708
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:02,759
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I'm gonna go Georgia Tech at home to

709
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:04,920
Speaker 2: cover that spread because I don't know.

710
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 1: I have watched Myia Temp.

711
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:11,240
Speaker 2: To play college football Oklahoma State Iowa State fully depends

712
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:14,239
Speaker 2: on the health of whoever's playing quarterback for Oklahoma State,

713
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:18,520
Speaker 2: So I guess Iowa State because of uncertainty though Hunter

714
00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:21,759
Speaker 2: deckers throwing the ball to other teams other than the

715
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:24,719
Speaker 2: one wearing the same uniform as his That scares me

716
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:27,279
Speaker 2: against Oklahoma State. But I also don't really love the

717
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 2: Poke's defense this year. I think Michigan absolutely stomps Nebraska,

718
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:31,640
Speaker 2: and I would give those points.

719
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, what do you think about Wisconsin? Iowa? I like Iowa,

720
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:37,719
Speaker 3: do you Why?

721
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:38,160
Speaker 1: I do?

722
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:41,120
Speaker 2: They've got a little bit healthier. I think they're going

723
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:43,279
Speaker 2: a little bit younger on the offense. I don't think

724
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:45,360
Speaker 2: last week is fully indicative of where they are as

725
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:48,200
Speaker 2: a program, because Purdue is prone to that kind of performance.

726
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:53,400
Speaker 2: But I really strong defense at home as an underdog, right,

727
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:56,520
Speaker 2: I stick with what I believe in through thick and thin.

728
00:36:56,280 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 3: I think I'm on Wisconsin. I think I'm always consonant

729
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:06,120
Speaker 3: because if I'm Jim Leonard, this is a potential statement

730
00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:09,719
Speaker 3: win for you. Sure, this is a statement win. This

731
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 3: is a win that would be very meaningful to have

732
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:14,000
Speaker 3: in your quiver if you're looking to get that.

733
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:15,400
Speaker 1: To secure Saturday.

734
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:19,799
Speaker 3: Yep, Wisconsin, j Yeah, you're looking for that Wisconsin job

735
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:23,960
Speaker 3: more permanently. Beating Iowa, I think would be nice, and

736
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:27,319
Speaker 3: we know that they've got more pieces on offense that

737
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:29,759
Speaker 3: we can trust or trustworthy pieces, let's say.

738
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:30,680
Speaker 1: Yeah.

739
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:33,120
Speaker 2: So since taking over, they're what, they're three to one

740
00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:35,960
Speaker 2: with wins over Northwestern, Purdue and Maryland. They lose to

741
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:38,719
Speaker 2: Michigan State late, and that was sort of a not

742
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:40,759
Speaker 2: a freakway to lose because it was a fumble. But

743
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:44,200
Speaker 2: I think that was an overtime game. I believe Michigan

744
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:48,440
Speaker 2: State Wisconsin. So I think Wisconsin's in a good place

745
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:50,680
Speaker 2: with Jim Leonard, and that's looking more and more like

746
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:55,239
Speaker 2: he's the guy for the job. But there's something to

747
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:59,440
Speaker 2: me about Graham Mertz throwing into the teeth of the

748
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:04,239
Speaker 2: Iowa defense that I just can't ride that pony into

749
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:06,120
Speaker 2: the show to make these things up.

750
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:09,560
Speaker 3: The Florida South Carolina game, to me is interesting because

751
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:14,160
Speaker 3: neither plays defense. I could see it being close the

752
00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:16,640
Speaker 3: Witch game, Florida versus South Carolina.

753
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:20,480
Speaker 1: Oh, Florida, South Carolina. I like Florida here.

754
00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:25,319
Speaker 2: I do like Florida because South Carolina's defense as bad

755
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 2: as Florida's defense has been against the run this year,

756
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:31,200
Speaker 2: and they were bailed out by some pretty heinous decision

757
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:33,080
Speaker 2: making by Jimbo and Texas A and M with the

758
00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:37,680
Speaker 2: ball last week. I still am. I'm not at all

759
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:41,800
Speaker 2: confident in South Carolina with the ball themselves consistently, whereas

760
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:43,799
Speaker 2: I can see. If I have to say who is

761
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:47,200
Speaker 2: likelier to score thirty points in this game, it's Florida.

762
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:48,000
Speaker 1: To me, it just is.

763
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:50,000
Speaker 3: Let's let me be clear. Let me be clear on

764
00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:51,839
Speaker 3: the South Carolina defense. When I say they don't play

765
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:55,480
Speaker 3: defense in particular, they're numbers overall on defense, are fine

766
00:38:56,440 --> 00:39:00,160
Speaker 3: in particular on the ground. Yeah, that's the matchup. Is

767
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:00,920
Speaker 3: Florida can run it?

768
00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:01,520
Speaker 1: Yep?

769
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm yeah, they're South Carolina is. When they're healthy

770
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 2: and when they're operational, they're fine. They're a bowl team,

771
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:14,319
Speaker 2: which I think is our friend Bud Elliott talked about this,

772
00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:17,000
Speaker 2: like relax, South Carolina making a ball is a good thing.

773
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:19,960
Speaker 2: I think Florida is a little bit faster on offense,

774
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:21,160
Speaker 2: and I think they're going to score more.

775
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:23,880
Speaker 3: My my upset pick of the week is Louisville outright

776
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 3: over Clemson.

777
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:26,720
Speaker 1: I love that pick as well. I don't.

778
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:30,280
Speaker 2: I don't know about upset, but in terms of Louisville

779
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:33,520
Speaker 2: against like an X Saturday, and the defense has really

780
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 2: tightened up, and you can say, look, well, look at

781
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:35,760
Speaker 2: the opponents.

782
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:38,160
Speaker 1: Louell doesn't always stop down opponents.

783
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:40,800
Speaker 3: No, No, they've been they've been good. They've been turning

784
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:45,200
Speaker 3: the ball over, yeah, or getting turnovers, turning their turnovers. Yeah. Yeah.

785
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:49,200
Speaker 3: And anytime you've got Malik Cunningham, he's a nightmare. He's

786
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:50,279
Speaker 3: a nightmare. Y.

787
00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:51,200
Speaker 1: Yeah.

788
00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:53,719
Speaker 3: Right, it's it's sometimes it works, sometimes it does it,

789
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 3: but when it does, it works really well. Clemson's just

790
00:39:57,160 --> 00:40:00,960
Speaker 3: I talked about Alabama before and my my level of

791
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:05,840
Speaker 3: discomfort trying to analyze them week to week, put aside

792
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:09,400
Speaker 3: the baggage from previous years and look at them objectively.

793
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:12,759
Speaker 3: I feel similarly about Clemson. Clemson is in a weird

794
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:16,040
Speaker 3: spot this year, and the defense is not as good

795
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:19,279
Speaker 3: as it's been. The offense is not as good as

796
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:22,000
Speaker 3: it's been. Clearly, that game last week had to be

797
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:25,040
Speaker 3: very frustrating to watch because they got bullied, they got

798
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:25,800
Speaker 3: pushed around.

799
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:26,640
Speaker 1: Yeah.

800
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:29,880
Speaker 3: I don't know how they respond their seven point home favorites.

801
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:31,759
Speaker 3: So at a minimum I would go Louisville plus the

802
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:36,360
Speaker 3: points because Louisville can score, but outrights. Interesting to me,

803
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:38,880
Speaker 3: I could, I could? I can imagine a universe in

804
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:39,920
Speaker 3: which that happens.

805
00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:43,520
Speaker 2: Well, it's also been a season for Clemson that it's

806
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:46,080
Speaker 2: kind of an ish season and not the meaning of ish, that's,

807
00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:51,160
Speaker 2: you know, put in place of another word. It's Clemson

808
00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:55,680
Speaker 2: this year has been Florida State ish, which is good,

809
00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:59,319
Speaker 2: Syracuse Ish, which has been not aged super well. And

810
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:03,080
Speaker 2: that was like two weeks ago. They've been wake Forest

811
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:05,839
Speaker 2: ish for a long stretch. They were Georgia Tech ish

812
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:07,680
Speaker 2: and that was week one or whatever, and they weren't

813
00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:10,839
Speaker 2: even Notre Dame. They weren't even Drew Pine ish last week.

814
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:13,919
Speaker 2: So now, not that this is a new concept, stop

815
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:16,719
Speaker 2: will Shipley and make the passing game beat you, but

816
00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:22,400
Speaker 2: Louisville defense should be decent enough at times. We suppose

817
00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:26,960
Speaker 2: to clog rushing lanes against this Clemson team to force,

818
00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:29,440
Speaker 2: you know whatever, whether it's the club level or DJU

819
00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:33,919
Speaker 2: or whoever, to make plays downfield. And I'm not super

820
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:35,600
Speaker 2: high on Leiville to be clear, as a program. I

821
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:39,040
Speaker 2: think there's still too many issues there. But no with

822
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:42,360
Speaker 2: where the two where the two teams sit at the moment, Yeah,

823
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 2: I'll go Louisville.

824
00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:46,840
Speaker 3: Sure, onto the late slate. This is where it gets weird.

825
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:52,200
Speaker 3: This is where I'm excited. TCU on the road at Texas.

826
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 3: Texas is a seven point home favorite. Yeah, okay, tc

827
00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:02,400
Speaker 3: is number four in that latest college football playoff ranking.

828
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:05,440
Speaker 3: You could argue getting a fair amount of disrespect. All

829
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:08,160
Speaker 3: they've done is win. They're nine to zero, but some

830
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:10,720
Speaker 3: of the wins have been comebacks. It hasn't always been pretty.

831
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:14,080
Speaker 3: Some clunkers in there, for sure, but this is a

832
00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:17,440
Speaker 3: team that has gotten it together when it absolutely had to.

833
00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:21,680
Speaker 3: That's why they're undefeated. This's wha they top four. For context,

834
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:23,799
Speaker 3: here the seven point line. What does a seven point

835
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:29,640
Speaker 3: line mean? Seven point lines mean basically a seventy five

836
00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:33,120
Speaker 3: percent chance of winning outright. So this is Vegas saying

837
00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:35,839
Speaker 3: we think there is a three and four chance that

838
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:38,759
Speaker 3: Texas is going to win this game outright, and that's

839
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:41,080
Speaker 3: what the numbers would dictate over the course of many

840
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:45,319
Speaker 3: years of betting. Seventy five percent chance excuse me, of

841
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:49,080
Speaker 3: an outright win from a numbers standpoint, at least the

842
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:51,919
Speaker 3: numbers we look at these teams are almost dead even.

843
00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:56,000
Speaker 3: It's very very tight between TCU and Texas, with some exceptions,

844
00:42:56,040 --> 00:43:00,400
Speaker 3: but by and large, it's really tight. Definitely little bit

845
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:02,680
Speaker 3: of that pixie dust. So on the TCU season again,

846
00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:06,040
Speaker 3: I stress, I don't mean to devalue anything that the

847
00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:08,279
Speaker 3: horn Frogs have done, but no, they're a really good team,

848
00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:11,560
Speaker 3: a little bit of pixie dust, and they're gettable. We've

849
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:13,920
Speaker 3: seen it. They could have been gotten already, but they haven't.

850
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:20,800
Speaker 3: I feel like I know what TCU is, though, Okay,

851
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:22,400
Speaker 3: I don't know if I can say the same for

852
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:26,319
Speaker 3: Texas outside of be Jean Robinson, and he alone might

853
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:29,480
Speaker 3: be enough to swing this game in favor of Texas.

854
00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:35,240
Speaker 3: But quinn Ewers hasn't been great, right. The defense vastly improved, granted,

855
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 3: struggles against the pass, still struggles as a tackling team

856
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:43,920
Speaker 3: in the open field. They have not fully cured that yet.

857
00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:47,560
Speaker 3: But we're back in this position again two weeks running now.

858
00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:50,040
Speaker 3: So last week in the K State game, you see

859
00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:53,920
Speaker 3: it this week again with the TCU game, where Vegas

860
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:57,080
Speaker 3: is telling us we think definitively that Texas is better.

861
00:43:58,680 --> 00:43:59,320
Speaker 3: Are you buying that?

862
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:02,200
Speaker 2: It's a weird. I think it's going to be one

863
00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:05,200
Speaker 2: of those hold on games. I wish I had that

864
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:12,680
Speaker 2: song at the ready. Old TCU gets stronger over the

865
00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:16,360
Speaker 2: course of a game, Texas gets weaker. I'm not positive

866
00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:18,600
Speaker 2: quin you Ares is excellent. I'm positive he is a

867
00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:22,279
Speaker 2: good quarterback. I'm not positive he's excellent. I think he

868
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:25,239
Speaker 2: is one of the four or five best quarterbacks in

869
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:30,440
Speaker 2: the conference. I am more confident right now in TCU's

870
00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:34,680
Speaker 2: ability to win close games than I am Texas's. They survive,

871
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:38,000
Speaker 2: you know, Xavier Hutchinson dropping the ball late to eventually

872
00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:41,120
Speaker 2: seal that game. They survive. I mean, they've scored like

873
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:43,640
Speaker 2: six points a game these past three games in the

874
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:47,120
Speaker 2: second half. They just they get solved. They just over

875
00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:49,960
Speaker 2: the course of a game. Defensive coordinators in the Big

876
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:52,080
Speaker 2: twelve say, all right, this is what you're doing. Cool, cool,

877
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:54,960
Speaker 2: cool cool, this is our adjustment. And Sark in his

878
00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:56,400
Speaker 2: head must be saying.

879
00:44:58,080 --> 00:44:58,960
Speaker 1: How did you know?

880
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:03,160
Speaker 2: And that's just the reality right now with Texas. So

881
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:06,040
Speaker 2: Texas has quietly gotten better on defense. I think tc

882
00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:09,760
Speaker 2: is going to struggle at times. But no, I trust

883
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:12,399
Speaker 2: TCU more in this to cover. And so I don't

884
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:14,719
Speaker 2: get this line. I know TCU is down with their

885
00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:17,719
Speaker 2: best defensive player. He was kicked out of the game

886
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:19,320
Speaker 2: last week for targeting, so he's going to miss the

887
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:19,960
Speaker 2: first half.

888
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:22,919
Speaker 1: But no, I again.

889
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:26,040
Speaker 2: If you're gonna say James Franklin only wins, only loses

890
00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:30,000
Speaker 2: close to Ohio State, always demolishes Maryland. TCU only beats Texas,

891
00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:31,280
Speaker 2: So going frog.

892
00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:34,280
Speaker 3: I'm going to listen to our friends in the desert. Okay,

893
00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:38,640
Speaker 3: this line is speaking to me like the ghost of Mufasa.

894
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:46,240
Speaker 3: Who I am? Dan is broken up with TCU? Okay,

895
00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:50,560
Speaker 3: and we are never ever getting back together? Swifty Saturday,

896
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:54,719
Speaker 3: TCU loses their first game of the year, Texas minus

897
00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:55,520
Speaker 3: seven for this guy?

898
00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:58,640
Speaker 2: Is it LRO? Is it luck running out? Yes, it's

899
00:45:58,680 --> 00:45:59,800
Speaker 2: the LRO game.

900
00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:04,200
Speaker 3: Of your Okay, Texas minus seven, I'm taking I'm just

901
00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:06,279
Speaker 3: going with it. I don't understand the line either, but

902
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:12,320
Speaker 3: I'm going with it all right. Seven PMSPN Georgia minus

903
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:15,400
Speaker 3: sixteen and a half on the road at Dan's team,

904
00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 3: Mississippi State. They last played in twenty twenty, Georgia one

905
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:23,400
Speaker 3: by only seven. Wat's changed since then? Mind you?

906
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:26,200
Speaker 1: That was a JT. Daniels game, I believe for George.

907
00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:28,440
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, yes, I am not that gung ho on

908
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:30,839
Speaker 3: in Mississippi State. So I'm gonna turn this one over

909
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:33,560
Speaker 3: to you. The shine on Mississippi State is fully gone

910
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:36,920
Speaker 3: for me because they have not performed against good defense.

911
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:40,160
Speaker 3: Is the only exception was A and M. But A

912
00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:42,480
Speaker 3: and M turned it over four times, so I don't

913
00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:46,239
Speaker 3: even think you can really count that one here. I

914
00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:49,600
Speaker 3: think Georgia can run on them. Maybe there's a hangover

915
00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:52,480
Speaker 3: effect from the Tennessee game. I don't think Georgia is

916
00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:55,440
Speaker 3: that kind of team. But otherwise I just don't have

917
00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:57,640
Speaker 3: any reason to go Mississippi State here.

918
00:46:58,680 --> 00:46:59,000
Speaker 1: Yeah.

919
00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:01,319
Speaker 2: If Mississippi State I had a better front and was

920
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:03,399
Speaker 2: better against the run, I think i'd feel good about

921
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:06,120
Speaker 2: them at home. But here's what Alabama's defense, which I

922
00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:09,120
Speaker 2: still think is pretty good, did to Mississippi State's offense.

923
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:13,200
Speaker 2: Fully silenced them. They fully figured them out. I think

924
00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:15,080
Speaker 2: the same thing will happen with Georgia. I think they're

925
00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:18,840
Speaker 2: locked in. They're deep enough, they're talented enough. I think

926
00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:23,560
Speaker 2: the Tennessee game will serve as a not an awakening

927
00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:28,879
Speaker 2: of a giant, but something that really galvanized things in Athens, like, yeah,

928
00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:30,879
Speaker 2: this is who we are. So I think they're going

929
00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:32,720
Speaker 2: to dominate and win this game by three touchdowns.

930
00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:33,960
Speaker 3: Remember who you are?

931
00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:35,200
Speaker 1: Remember who you are?

932
00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:39,920
Speaker 3: Seven pm, Washington at Oregon. Yeah, Oregon favored by thirteen

933
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:42,200
Speaker 3: and a half. How worried are you about getting sliced

934
00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:46,480
Speaker 3: and diced by the precision passing of one Michael Penick Junior.

935
00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:48,400
Speaker 1: On the road.

936
00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:51,760
Speaker 2: Washington and Pennix, I mean, they lose to Arizona State,

937
00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:58,320
Speaker 2: they lose to UCLA emphatically, and that I think. I

938
00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:00,080
Speaker 2: don't know how many picks Pennix through a game and

939
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:02,200
Speaker 2: Sau I know it was a couple against Ucla.

940
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:02,760
Speaker 1: I believe.

941
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:06,840
Speaker 2: I think they're good, and I think they're going to

942
00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:08,879
Speaker 2: move the ball and I think they're going to score some.

943
00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:14,000
Speaker 2: But it's a weird flip. This defense is the liability

944
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:16,880
Speaker 2: where it's been so good for so long. I mean,

945
00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:19,040
Speaker 2: you say whatever you want about Jimmy Lake, but the

946
00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:21,720
Speaker 2: defense has been the more dependable side of the ball

947
00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:25,880
Speaker 2: for Washington, and now it's leaky against the most efficient

948
00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:28,880
Speaker 2: offense in America, playing at home in a difficult place

949
00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:31,279
Speaker 2: to play, in front of a very hostile crowd, in

950
00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:35,400
Speaker 2: a rivalry game like this, especially with Oregon. What are

951
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:36,800
Speaker 2: they six right now in the playoff?

952
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:37,320
Speaker 3: Correct?

953
00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:41,800
Speaker 2: They have to overcome that forty nine to three data

954
00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:44,640
Speaker 2: point and they've been covering. I think they're at seven

955
00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:47,440
Speaker 2: and two against the spread this season, even with a

956
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:50,759
Speaker 2: pretty disappointing defense. And again, I think this could be

957
00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:53,360
Speaker 2: a fourteen to ten game deep into the second quarter,

958
00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:56,440
Speaker 2: and then deep into the third quarter it's twenty eight

959
00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:59,280
Speaker 2: to ten. So I like Oregon to cover this spread.

960
00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:05,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, have you looked at Washington's path to seven wins?

961
00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:10,240
Speaker 3: It's not crazy impressive, No, it's you know, it's paved

962
00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:13,680
Speaker 3: with victories over a lot of three and six teams. Dan, Yeah,

963
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:16,319
Speaker 3: the Oregon State win last week was that was nice,

964
00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:19,040
Speaker 3: But I just think this is a totally different game

965
00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:21,880
Speaker 3: for the Huskies. Oregon now has so many ways they

966
00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:23,840
Speaker 3: could win because of the way that bo Nicks is playing.

967
00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:27,960
Speaker 3: The way that bo Nicks is playing is is Heisman caliber,

968
00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:31,000
Speaker 3: which is crazy and we never would have guessed it

969
00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:32,920
Speaker 3: given what we thought we knew about bon Nicks, but

970
00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:37,360
Speaker 3: just he has really thrived in this Kenny Dillingham system,

971
00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:40,359
Speaker 3: and Oregon, to your point, has to be looking at

972
00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:42,560
Speaker 3: the field in front of him feeling like they've got

973
00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:44,360
Speaker 3: a good shot at this player, not just at the

974
00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:48,399
Speaker 3: PAC twelve, but certainly at a playoff bids. So I've

975
00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:52,160
Speaker 3: got this one at like forty one twenty four in

976
00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:55,200
Speaker 3: favor of the Ducks. I'm gonna go lock of the week.

977
00:49:56,239 --> 00:49:58,799
Speaker 1: Wow, lock of the Week. I considered it.

978
00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:03,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just you know, we could talk about Oregon

979
00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:06,080
Speaker 3: and what their past defense might look like against Pennix.

980
00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:11,279
Speaker 3: The Washington defense. Though. The Washington defense is not good, right,

981
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:13,040
Speaker 3: it is not good, and that's gonna be a problem

982
00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:13,759
Speaker 3: for him in this game.

983
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:16,200
Speaker 2: They've gotten a little bit better recently, but it was

984
00:50:16,239 --> 00:50:19,280
Speaker 2: Kallen Oregon State, with Oregon State's backup quarterback who could

985
00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:22,799
Speaker 2: not complete a pass downfield. I think Oregon State, even

986
00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:24,719
Speaker 2: in that twenty one points, I think they scored a

987
00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:26,680
Speaker 2: defensive touchdown. I forget if it was a scoop and

988
00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:29,680
Speaker 2: score or an in a pick six, but it's at

989
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:32,040
Speaker 2: least something in terms of a second act for this

990
00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:34,840
Speaker 2: Washington defense improving. I just don't think they're built to

991
00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:36,680
Speaker 2: stop this Oregon team. Now, it's a rivalry game, you

992
00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:39,320
Speaker 2: throw those records out, you know, everything can get tighter.

993
00:50:39,719 --> 00:50:42,799
Speaker 2: But I just don't think I'm Washington especially, I don't

994
00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:46,360
Speaker 2: think they have the dudes on defense, and Pennix in

995
00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:48,319
Speaker 2: this kind of game, I think I think he's gonna

996
00:50:48,320 --> 00:50:49,719
Speaker 2: throw a pick or two I really.

997
00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:54,600
Speaker 3: Do all right, seven pm FS one, Kansas State at Baylor,

998
00:50:54,680 --> 00:50:56,960
Speaker 3: Baylor favored by two and a half point. Let's just

999
00:50:57,000 --> 00:51:06,319
Speaker 3: do it again, please. Wow. Connor, who writes Duty Flee

1000
00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:08,960
Speaker 3: for our website every week, does a great job with

1001
00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:11,759
Speaker 3: the Solid Slate taking you through the games as we

1002
00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:13,920
Speaker 3: do here, telling you which games you should watch on

1003
00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:17,480
Speaker 3: which TV go and check that out. Every Thursday publishes

1004
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:18,800
Speaker 3: around the time many of you are going to be

1005
00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:20,480
Speaker 3: listening to this show The Solid Slate.

1006
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:21,879
Speaker 1: He asked.

1007
00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:23,640
Speaker 3: He's a Baylor guy, He asked if I could lock

1008
00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:24,440
Speaker 3: up Baylor.

1009
00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:26,400
Speaker 2: Again once again, because I'm want to know with the

1010
00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:28,320
Speaker 2: spike lock second act Saturday.

1011
00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:30,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I thought I'd give another shot here. I

1012
00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:33,960
Speaker 3: think it's close, think it's low scoring, just like it's

1013
00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:36,960
Speaker 3: been the last two years. If Case State's gonna ride

1014
00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:41,000
Speaker 3: with Adrian Martinez, I like that Baylor matchup even more same,

1015
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:44,080
Speaker 3: I really do. And I like Adrian Martinez, but you

1016
00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:46,719
Speaker 3: know he's prone to those moments of greatness and those

1017
00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:50,960
Speaker 3: moments of boneheadedness. And Baylor's got eight interceptions in the

1018
00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:54,280
Speaker 3: last two weeks, which is nuts. So give me Baylor

1019
00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:55,480
Speaker 3: minus two and a half at home.

1020
00:51:56,560 --> 00:51:59,400
Speaker 2: Also a data point is Kansas State hasn't been incredible

1021
00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:02,040
Speaker 2: at stopping the run, whereas Baylor has slowly grown into

1022
00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:05,960
Speaker 2: like a bit of a monster rushing the ball. Yes,

1023
00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:08,160
Speaker 2: squirrel what like? They've done it with multiple guys. So

1024
00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:10,520
Speaker 2: I think Baylor's in a good position to win this

1025
00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:14,239
Speaker 2: game by a touchdown. Kansas State uncertainty at quarterback and

1026
00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:17,239
Speaker 2: the wild cardiness at quarterback, I'm going Baylor here. By

1027
00:52:17,239 --> 00:52:19,879
Speaker 2: the way, Peter Pope, the og Pope, sent me into

1028
00:52:20,239 --> 00:52:23,200
Speaker 2: America's real pope, America's Pope Peter. He sent me a

1029
00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:27,040
Speaker 2: text after I mentioned Reese's pieces, asking if I knew

1030
00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:29,640
Speaker 2: that Richard Reese did actually sign an nil deal with

1031
00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:31,600
Speaker 2: Reese's Oh no, I did not know.

1032
00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:33,960
Speaker 3: Of course I didn't know, because I'm just not as

1033
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:36,400
Speaker 3: plugged into all things Baylor as mister Pope.

1034
00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:38,319
Speaker 2: But a nice little name drop there that you and

1035
00:52:38,320 --> 00:52:39,759
Speaker 2: Peter Pope text text.

1036
00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:42,440
Speaker 3: He sent me a Christmas card years ago. God, I

1037
00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:44,600
Speaker 3: don't think he has my nether address, but that's okay,

1038
00:52:44,680 --> 00:52:46,319
Speaker 3: nice guy, all.

1039
00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:52,560
Speaker 2: Right, The people at your previous estate received Perhaps there.

1040
00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:53,920
Speaker 3: They're saying the same thing with a lovely family, What

1041
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:58,120
Speaker 3: a lovely guy. Seven point thirty North Carolina eight and

1042
00:52:58,200 --> 00:53:01,680
Speaker 3: one on the road at Wake Forest Forests minus three.

1043
00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:05,160
Speaker 3: I have been saying now for weeks that North Carolina

1044
00:53:05,200 --> 00:53:08,440
Speaker 3: is an ultra quiet one loss team. They're so quiet

1045
00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:11,640
Speaker 3: that I forgot to put them on the run sheet initially. Yep,

1046
00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:16,680
Speaker 3: I forgot to put North Carolina Wake Forest on our sheet,

1047
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:21,560
Speaker 3: and you chastise me rightfully, so because this might be

1048
00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:24,440
Speaker 3: the best quar quarterback matchup of the weekend. Mm hmm,

1049
00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:27,359
Speaker 3: Drake May Sam Hartman, who you got here?

1050
00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:34,560
Speaker 2: Wake Forest has had themselves a run recently that hasn't

1051
00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:35,120
Speaker 2: been great.

1052
00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:37,240
Speaker 3: Man.

1053
00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:39,239
Speaker 2: I don't even know what the worst thing in this

1054
00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:42,520
Speaker 2: game is, whether it's Wake's defense or turnovers. Wait can't

1055
00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:44,439
Speaker 2: run the ball at all, which is fine because that's

1056
00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:47,160
Speaker 2: not what the offense is built around. But they've lost

1057
00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:49,040
Speaker 2: a couple in a row. Now they're losing to End State,

1058
00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:51,600
Speaker 2: n C State, excuse me, losing to Louisville in a

1059
00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:54,919
Speaker 2: crazy manner. The worry to me is that they haven't

1060
00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:58,759
Speaker 2: been scoring, that they're not losing shootouts necessarily. I think

1061
00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:01,440
Speaker 2: I'm going North Carolina. I think they can win by

1062
00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:05,040
Speaker 2: a touchdown. Yeah, forty two to thirty five.

1063
00:54:05,120 --> 00:54:05,440
Speaker 1: Kind of thing.

1064
00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:07,320
Speaker 2: I think the offense will get going a little bit more.

1065
00:54:08,560 --> 00:54:10,279
Speaker 2: And this is a matchup that was so important, that

1066
00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:13,040
Speaker 2: is so important that they scheduled each other even when

1067
00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:16,360
Speaker 2: they weren't scheduled to play each other in the acc

1068
00:54:16,520 --> 00:54:20,120
Speaker 2: portion of their schedules. I'm going North Carolina here. I

1069
00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:22,560
Speaker 2: think it's a really nice second act that their defense

1070
00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:26,799
Speaker 2: is merely not good rather than abysmal. So yeah, go

1071
00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:28,719
Speaker 2: with the better quarterback here, which right now seems like

1072
00:54:28,760 --> 00:54:29,120
Speaker 2: Drake May.

1073
00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:31,120
Speaker 3: I think he's Drake May. And I'm with you on

1074
00:54:31,200 --> 00:54:34,040
Speaker 3: Carolina here. I might bet this one. Okay, real hard

1075
00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:38,840
Speaker 3: earned American cage. Some other games, Yes, in the late Bloc,

1076
00:54:39,080 --> 00:54:42,239
Speaker 3: Florida State minus six and a half on the road

1077
00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:46,399
Speaker 3: at Syracuse, battle of two six and three teams. We've

1078
00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:50,239
Speaker 3: got Kansas, also six and three on the road at

1079
00:54:50,320 --> 00:54:53,800
Speaker 3: Texas Tech Tech favored by three and a half points. Here, okay,

1080
00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:57,520
Speaker 3: hm seven thirty, here's one for you, Texas A and

1081
00:54:57,680 --> 00:55:02,520
Speaker 3: M three and six on the road at Auburn, also

1082
00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:06,640
Speaker 3: three and six. Auburn favored by two. Wow, look how

1083
00:55:06,680 --> 00:55:09,600
Speaker 3: far we've come here. Week eleven, Auburn favored by two.

1084
00:55:09,760 --> 00:55:14,560
Speaker 3: Coach Less favored by two Arizona also three and six,

1085
00:55:15,080 --> 00:55:17,880
Speaker 3: squaring off against UCLA, Ucla favored by nineteen and a

1086
00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:21,239
Speaker 3: half points. Got Stanford also, you guessed it. Three and

1087
00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:24,120
Speaker 3: six on the road at Utah Utah favored by twenty

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00:55:24,120 --> 00:55:26,879
Speaker 3: three and a half points. And just for the hell

1089
00:55:26,920 --> 00:55:29,799
Speaker 3: of it, cal you guessed it also three and six

1090
00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:33,480
Speaker 3: on the road at Oregon State, six and three Oregon State,

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00:55:34,120 --> 00:55:36,880
Speaker 3: the Beaver's favored by thirteen and a half points. Any

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00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:39,160
Speaker 3: of those games meaningful to you, Dan?

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00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:41,560
Speaker 1: All of them meaningful to me?

1094
00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:42,800
Speaker 3: I was meaningful.

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00:55:43,040 --> 00:55:46,240
Speaker 2: I think Florida State, even though I talk about JMA

1096
00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:50,319
Speaker 2: JMI wireless at JAM get it right. I think you

1097
00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:53,600
Speaker 2: can run straight at Syracuse, and I think Mike Norvell

1098
00:55:53,840 --> 00:55:55,759
Speaker 2: and the Knowles are smart enough to do just that

1099
00:55:55,920 --> 00:55:59,240
Speaker 2: after doing it and really thriving in play action against

1100
00:55:59,239 --> 00:56:02,560
Speaker 2: Miami last week. I think Trey Benson, assume he's all.

1101
00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:03,080
Speaker 1: In good shape.

1102
00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:04,759
Speaker 2: I think he was going to have a really I

1103
00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:06,960
Speaker 2: think he will have a really nice day against the Orange.

1104
00:56:07,360 --> 00:56:10,719
Speaker 2: I like Kansas against Texas. I like him outright as

1105
00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:14,720
Speaker 2: do I. Yeah, I think the offense is really humming

1106
00:56:14,800 --> 00:56:16,799
Speaker 2: right now, no matter who the quarterback is. We'll see

1107
00:56:16,800 --> 00:56:19,680
Speaker 2: if Jason Jaylen Daniels, excuse me as a game time decision.

1108
00:56:19,680 --> 00:56:22,399
Speaker 2: Once again, they have not been really good. I didn't

1109
00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:23,040
Speaker 2: mean to cut you off.

1110
00:56:23,080 --> 00:56:27,080
Speaker 3: They have not petered out. No, they have not petered out.

1111
00:56:27,200 --> 00:56:29,959
Speaker 3: And we talked for a good long time about like, hey,

1112
00:56:30,160 --> 00:56:32,040
Speaker 3: are they even gonna make it to six? They made

1113
00:56:32,040 --> 00:56:34,960
Speaker 3: it to five, but can they? I just think they're good.

1114
00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:39,000
Speaker 3: They're a good team. They're dangerous. Texas Tech is kind

1115
00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:41,279
Speaker 3: of all over the place right now, especially a quarterback,

1116
00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:44,520
Speaker 3: like eight quarterbacks that they're playing, and that never works.

1117
00:56:44,719 --> 00:56:47,640
Speaker 3: I don't like it is never works. So yeah, I

1118
00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:50,120
Speaker 3: like the state of Kansas football right now, and I

1119
00:56:50,160 --> 00:56:52,680
Speaker 3: feel a lot better about them. They're a three and

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00:56:52,719 --> 00:56:55,480
Speaker 3: a half point dog on the road. I like them

1121
00:56:55,480 --> 00:56:57,359
Speaker 3: out right, like them out. What do you think about

1122
00:56:57,400 --> 00:56:58,160
Speaker 3: A and M Auburn?

1123
00:56:58,760 --> 00:57:01,160
Speaker 2: So I'm going to regret these I'm going to start

1124
00:57:01,200 --> 00:57:04,680
Speaker 2: the sentence with even Jimbo, even Jimbo can't screw this up.

1125
00:57:05,440 --> 00:57:07,520
Speaker 2: I don't think I'm taking A and M here. I

1126
00:57:07,520 --> 00:57:09,280
Speaker 2: think they're going to get the win against Auburn running

1127
00:57:09,280 --> 00:57:09,879
Speaker 2: straight at him.

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00:57:10,040 --> 00:57:13,360
Speaker 1: I'm on as what everybody should do. But you're on Auburn.

1129
00:57:13,760 --> 00:57:16,440
Speaker 3: I'm on Auburn. Yeah, Auburn can knock A and M

1130
00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:17,040
Speaker 3: out of a bowl.

1131
00:57:18,040 --> 00:57:18,479
Speaker 1: They can.

1132
00:57:18,720 --> 00:57:21,400
Speaker 3: They can knock A B and likewise A and M

1133
00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:26,280
Speaker 3: can knock Auburn out of a bowl. But I don't know, man,

1134
00:57:26,400 --> 00:57:29,040
Speaker 3: that the A and M thing is weird. It is

1135
00:57:29,120 --> 00:57:31,760
Speaker 3: just so weird. And I know they had the issue

1136
00:57:31,880 --> 00:57:35,840
Speaker 3: last week players that were sick, and maybe that impacted offense.

1137
00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:39,600
Speaker 3: But I worry now that maybe the defense is getting

1138
00:57:39,640 --> 00:57:43,480
Speaker 3: worn down from a year of being leaned upon, that

1139
00:57:44,840 --> 00:57:46,840
Speaker 3: perhaps they're not able to hold up their end of

1140
00:57:46,880 --> 00:57:48,600
Speaker 3: the bargain now through November.

1141
00:57:49,200 --> 00:57:50,080
Speaker 1: Don't think it matters.

1142
00:57:50,640 --> 00:57:52,560
Speaker 2: And I like Cadillac Williams. I like the energy he's

1143
00:57:52,560 --> 00:57:54,600
Speaker 2: brought there. Everybody seems to embrace him as the interim

1144
00:57:54,600 --> 00:57:56,200
Speaker 2: guy at Auburn. I think A and M will be fine.

1145
00:57:56,200 --> 00:57:58,680
Speaker 2: They'll get they're healthier, they're deeper, They'll be all right.

1146
00:58:00,440 --> 00:58:03,200
Speaker 2: Arizona Ucla, I think Ucla. I don't know what the

1147
00:58:03,240 --> 00:58:05,720
Speaker 2: health situation is of Zach Sharboney who missed last week,

1148
00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:09,200
Speaker 2: but Arizona is so bad defensively, I think Ucla is

1149
00:58:09,240 --> 00:58:11,560
Speaker 2: going to stomp them, especially with the attention right there

1150
00:58:11,600 --> 00:58:13,760
Speaker 2: are top ten ish right now in the playoff rankings.

1151
00:58:14,120 --> 00:58:17,320
Speaker 2: I think Utah goes away beating Stanford. I don't love

1152
00:58:17,360 --> 00:58:19,160
Speaker 2: the Utah defense, but it's good enough to beat the

1153
00:58:19,200 --> 00:58:23,040
Speaker 2: Stanford team forty five to ten. Sure, absolutely, I like

1154
00:58:23,160 --> 00:58:26,560
Speaker 2: Utah a lot. Actually, I think I like CAL against

1155
00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:30,120
Speaker 2: Oregon State. I think as bad as CAL has been

1156
00:58:30,160 --> 00:58:33,440
Speaker 2: at times losing to Colorado, I think they actually have

1157
00:58:33,520 --> 00:58:37,440
Speaker 2: a couple of interesting players on offense. Oregon State, really,

1158
00:58:37,560 --> 00:58:40,160
Speaker 2: depending on the health of their quarterback, really has trouble

1159
00:58:40,200 --> 00:58:44,160
Speaker 2: moving the ball through the air. And I like Cal here,

1160
00:58:44,280 --> 00:58:46,720
Speaker 2: I really do. I think Cal scoring the way that

1161
00:58:46,760 --> 00:58:49,280
Speaker 2: they did against USC last week. I mean, Oregon State

1162
00:58:49,360 --> 00:58:52,280
Speaker 2: is a better defense than USC, but I don't know.

1163
00:58:52,440 --> 00:58:55,120
Speaker 2: I think that's too big a line. Fourteen thirteen, fourteen points.

1164
00:58:55,160 --> 00:58:57,600
Speaker 2: I think Cal can keep that really close. It's a

1165
00:58:57,640 --> 00:58:59,520
Speaker 2: late night Pack twelve network game. I think it's going

1166
00:58:59,560 --> 00:58:59,959
Speaker 2: to be close.

1167
00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:02,760
Speaker 3: I don't hate that. I don't hate that. But speaking

1168
00:59:02,800 --> 00:59:06,920
Speaker 3: of late PAC twelve games, USC plays on Friday night.

1169
00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:10,120
Speaker 3: They're a thirty four point favorite against Colorado.

1170
00:59:10,480 --> 00:59:15,080
Speaker 2: They'll probably cover that, but I don't know USC's defense

1171
00:59:15,120 --> 00:59:17,880
Speaker 2: is bad enough and beat up enough that Colorado can

1172
00:59:17,920 --> 00:59:22,560
Speaker 2: lose that game thirty eight to thirteen. That was I

1173
00:59:22,560 --> 00:59:25,240
Speaker 2: think a Tennessee score I gave earlier something like that. Yeah,

1174
00:59:25,280 --> 00:59:29,560
Speaker 2: forty one thirteen cover it. Thirty four, Yeah, that covers It's.

1175
00:59:29,320 --> 00:59:32,160
Speaker 3: A big number. That's all I got. Any other games

1176
00:59:32,200 --> 00:59:33,080
Speaker 3: here that you want to mention?

1177
00:59:33,960 --> 00:59:36,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I obviously want you. We I mentioned

1178
00:59:36,320 --> 00:59:39,520
Speaker 2: what ECU Cincinnati? Yeah, I think Cincinnati's in a good

1179
00:59:39,520 --> 00:59:42,160
Speaker 2: place to win that game comfortably. But you see who

1180
00:59:42,160 --> 00:59:43,880
Speaker 2: was giving some teams trouble? You want to drop some

1181
00:59:43,920 --> 00:59:45,320
Speaker 2: big stanky drummond five real quick?

1182
00:59:45,400 --> 00:59:46,960
Speaker 3: I would love to. Let's do it.

1183
00:59:49,680 --> 00:59:50,960
Speaker 1: Who do we got, Dan? Who do we got?

1184
00:59:50,960 --> 00:59:53,840
Speaker 2: Who do we got a lot of not good teams

1185
00:59:53,840 --> 00:59:56,240
Speaker 2: in holy Cross and fordam not playing against each other

1186
00:59:56,240 --> 00:59:58,200
Speaker 2: though they should be required to play against each other

1187
00:59:58,280 --> 01:00:00,440
Speaker 2: given what was the final score of that game, fifty

1188
01:00:00,440 --> 01:00:01,200
Speaker 2: three to fifty two.

1189
01:00:01,280 --> 01:00:03,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, look crazy. Yeah.

1190
01:00:03,560 --> 01:00:05,720
Speaker 2: We got the Gators of Colgate traveling to your neck

1191
01:00:05,760 --> 01:00:10,120
Speaker 2: of the woods in Lehigh. Two teams not giving America.

1192
01:00:09,920 --> 01:00:12,800
Speaker 3: Another three six team on the road Colgate.

1193
01:00:12,840 --> 01:00:15,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, three and six, man, it's the news last Saturday.

1194
01:00:15,600 --> 01:00:17,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, six loss se give me Colgate? You know I don't.

1195
01:00:17,960 --> 01:00:18,760
Speaker 3: I never picked Lee High.

1196
01:00:18,800 --> 01:00:20,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm going to take the Gators as well.

1197
01:00:20,120 --> 01:00:23,440
Speaker 2: Here Bryant, outside of the conference taking on holy Cross,

1198
01:00:23,440 --> 01:00:26,120
Speaker 2: does their three and six record mean anything to you?

1199
01:00:26,600 --> 01:00:28,000
Speaker 1: Going against the class of the conference.

1200
01:00:28,000 --> 01:00:31,000
Speaker 3: I could see holy Cross struggling for a quarter and

1201
01:00:31,040 --> 01:00:32,400
Speaker 3: a half here before they figure it out.

1202
01:00:32,720 --> 01:00:35,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, your number is like a topsy Turvy game here,

1203
01:00:35,240 --> 01:00:37,520
Speaker 2: you were telling me off Air, I like holy Cross,

1204
01:00:37,520 --> 01:00:40,960
Speaker 2: big buck. Now Georgetown, Georgetown with two wins games that

1205
01:00:41,160 --> 01:00:44,080
Speaker 2: multi sport field, the Hornets nest that is. Yeah, Nelly's

1206
01:00:44,080 --> 01:00:44,640
Speaker 2: at one and eight.

1207
01:00:45,280 --> 01:00:48,160
Speaker 3: You know the Nellies have that one win was big

1208
01:00:48,200 --> 01:00:51,160
Speaker 3: this year. It was huge, of course, and I think.

1209
01:00:50,960 --> 01:00:52,240
Speaker 1: They also beat Kansas State.

1210
01:00:52,360 --> 01:00:56,200
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah. The eight losses is probably not representative of

1211
01:00:56,240 --> 01:00:59,720
Speaker 3: how good this team is. So on the road at

1212
01:00:59,800 --> 01:01:02,280
Speaker 3: multi sport field, that's just too tall of an order.

1213
01:01:02,400 --> 01:01:04,960
Speaker 3: But I could see the Nellies keeping this one within,

1214
01:01:05,720 --> 01:01:07,040
Speaker 3: you know, eight to ten points.

1215
01:01:08,240 --> 01:01:12,440
Speaker 2: Lafayette Fordam the Yetti's traveling to the bronxh.

1216
01:01:12,480 --> 01:01:14,040
Speaker 1: By the way, I do like Georgetown in that game.

1217
01:01:14,760 --> 01:01:19,360
Speaker 2: Lafayette upset material over Fordham. I say, yes, Ty, you're

1218
01:01:19,360 --> 01:01:20,280
Speaker 2: going Yetties over.

1219
01:01:20,200 --> 01:01:21,960
Speaker 1: Fording, Yettes over Rams. I am.

1220
01:01:22,120 --> 01:01:25,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is one true team of New York place.

1221
01:01:25,480 --> 01:01:29,120
Speaker 3: You proudly lived for years.

1222
01:01:29,400 --> 01:01:30,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, we live in the Bronx.

1223
01:01:30,560 --> 01:01:31,560
Speaker 3: How long were you in New York?

1224
01:01:33,440 --> 01:01:34,440
Speaker 1: Eight years?

1225
01:01:35,080 --> 01:01:37,760
Speaker 3: Eight years? You don't have any kind like there is

1226
01:01:37,880 --> 01:01:40,920
Speaker 3: no part of your ethos that identifies with Fordham football

1227
01:01:40,960 --> 01:01:41,360
Speaker 3: being there.

1228
01:01:41,800 --> 01:01:44,000
Speaker 2: No, I root for them, but didn't. I mean Fordham

1229
01:01:44,000 --> 01:01:46,600
Speaker 2: lost Ohio, which has been another second act Saturday team

1230
01:01:46,760 --> 01:01:48,800
Speaker 2: earlier on in the season, but almost beat them. They

1231
01:01:48,800 --> 01:01:50,680
Speaker 2: scored fifty two against them. They scored fifty two in

1232
01:01:50,680 --> 01:01:55,280
Speaker 2: another losing effort to holy Cross. But I'm a Lafayette

1233
01:01:55,320 --> 01:01:58,800
Speaker 2: legacy tie blood runs thicker than Arthur Avenue.

1234
01:01:59,000 --> 01:02:01,200
Speaker 3: I'm on the Rams, baby, give me Fordham.

1235
01:02:01,520 --> 01:02:04,040
Speaker 2: By the way, Andrew and the comments mentioned, because who's

1236
01:02:04,080 --> 01:02:04,800
Speaker 2: coastal have this week?

1237
01:02:04,840 --> 01:02:07,800
Speaker 1: Coastal Carolina? Look it up real quick, Grayson McCall out

1238
01:02:07,800 --> 01:02:08,920
Speaker 1: three to six weeks.

1239
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Speaker 3: Oh man, that's brutal. There's so much fun to watch

1240
01:02:12,320 --> 01:02:15,280
Speaker 3: Coastal Carolina. By the way, this week squaring off against

1241
01:02:15,320 --> 01:02:16,240
Speaker 3: Southern Miss.

1242
01:02:16,600 --> 01:02:19,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, a quality game there. We've already had maction this week.

1243
01:02:19,720 --> 01:02:24,800
Speaker 2: I think Toledo won relatively close. The MAC is tightening

1244
01:02:24,880 --> 01:02:28,520
Speaker 2: up tie. And by the way, if you enjoy watching

1245
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Speaker 2: the College Football Playoffs selection show on Tuesday evenings.

1246
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Speaker 1: It's November. You can watch Maction instead.

1247
01:02:36,280 --> 01:02:40,800
Speaker 2: That's right, don't watch that show, okay, ty, I think

1248
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Speaker 2: that's it for me.

1249
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Speaker 3: Last, but certainly not least. If you are out and

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Speaker 3: about this weekend, check out the College Football Blitz all

1269
01:03:53,600 --> 01:03:56,240
Speaker 3: NFL Red Zone for college football. I'm actually going to

1270
01:03:56,280 --> 01:03:58,680
Speaker 3: be out and about this Saturday. We haven't talked about

1271
01:03:58,680 --> 01:04:01,520
Speaker 3: this yet, but I have a family thing. I'm going

1272
01:04:01,560 --> 01:04:02,880
Speaker 3: to be out anywhere.

1273
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Speaker 1: Good. It's a family thing, a bunch of bar mitzvahs.

1274
01:04:07,600 --> 01:04:09,080
Speaker 1: Have you been to a bar mitzvah?

1275
01:04:09,120 --> 01:04:09,840
Speaker 3: I don't think I have.

1276
01:04:10,160 --> 01:04:12,200
Speaker 2: Oh my god, Ty, we got to crash a mitzvah

1277
01:04:12,200 --> 01:04:12,920
Speaker 2: one of these days.

1278
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Speaker 3: I'm down. I'm walking to it. I just never experienced it.

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Speaker 1: Done.

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Speaker 3: you so much for downloading, for listening as always, for

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Speaker 3: your support, Enjoy Week eleven and as per usual, stay

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Speaker 3: side peace