1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:04,200 Speaker 1: Karen abuses me during my break and I might get 2 00:00:04,200 --> 00:00:06,040 Speaker 1: fired for it, so I brought this all the way 3 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:06,640 Speaker 1: to the CEO. 4 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:09,760 Speaker 2: Am I the a hole. It's two pm today and 5 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:12,160 Speaker 2: I'm starving. I am just coming back from the fast 6 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:14,280 Speaker 2: food joined down the street, and I'm walking towards the 7 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:16,640 Speaker 2: breakroom with my food in hand and hoping to enjoy 8 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:20,000 Speaker 2: a quiet, peaceful lunch to re energize myself so I 9 00:00:20,040 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 2: can continue dealing with the endless waves of snarky customers 10 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:26,720 Speaker 2: that my workplace is notorious for attracting. As I'm getting 11 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 2: to the door, this blonde woman around her fifties begins 12 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:33,280 Speaker 2: to follow me. I can feel her following. 13 00:00:32,840 --> 00:00:35,080 Speaker 1: Me, and she begins to do this stops. 14 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:39,519 Speaker 2: That's so annoying. She continues about three times or so, 15 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:41,600 Speaker 2: but I ignore her, since you know, I'm not a 16 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:45,159 Speaker 2: dog or anything. After she realizes that I am not 17 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 2: going to react to her summons, the conversation goes a 18 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:51,640 Speaker 2: little something like this woman. 19 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:54,440 Speaker 1: I'm excused. 20 00:00:55,280 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 2: Me me, Oh sorry, ma'am. I am on right now, 21 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 2: but let me get one of the other employees to 22 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 2: help you out. At this point, I begin to reach 23 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 2: for my walkie talkie to call someone to the aisle 24 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 2: for help, but she isn't having any events. 25 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:16,200 Speaker 3: Woman, Why I will not be treated like this? Why 26 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:20,760 Speaker 3: are you a round customer and to be treated or sage? 27 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:25,000 Speaker 3: You will provide you're furvish to me, right? 28 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:31,760 Speaker 1: And that is that? No questions ask me, ma'am. 29 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 2: I would be happy to help you, but my lunch 30 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:36,759 Speaker 2: break is only thirty minutes, and. 31 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:43,920 Speaker 1: I don't care if you're a story lookstfer goes, you'll 32 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 1: die fractively. 33 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 2: Sim At this point, I didn't even tell you. I 34 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 2: just turned around and ignored her, which I love, just like, yeah, 35 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:57,559 Speaker 2: I'm not dealing with this. I walked into the break 36 00:01:57,640 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 2: room with my key and shut the door behind. She 37 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 2: began to angrily pound on it for a few seconds 38 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 2: until she finally stopped, presumably because a coworker came to 39 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 2: the rescue. I later found out that she complained to 40 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:13,640 Speaker 2: the manager, and of course the manager simply brown nosed 41 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 2: her and told her that I would be dealt with 42 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 2: as an employee should never refuse service to a customer. 43 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 1: Even if they are on break. 44 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:27,119 Speaker 2: This supposedly applies even if I call an employee over 45 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:28,640 Speaker 2: the walkie for help. 46 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:29,840 Speaker 1: So there's an update. 47 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:33,800 Speaker 2: Okay, is the a hole from walking away from this 48 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 2: obvious Karen? 49 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:40,120 Speaker 1: My god, No, this poor person is just trying try 50 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 1: to have thirty minutes of peace. 51 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 2: I called corporate to complain that I was basically being 52 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 2: reprimanded for falling policy and refusing service to a customer 53 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 2: during my break Of course, corporate immediately sided with me, 54 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 2: and everything seemed like it was going to be fixed 55 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:57,920 Speaker 2: and my name would be cleared. But no, of course not. 56 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 2: In the world of retail, things aren't always so clear cut. 57 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:05,520 Speaker 2: Lo and behold, there's another factor here. The f to 58 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:09,799 Speaker 2: apparently called corporate herself and basically demanded that. 59 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 1: I be fired for being rude to her. 60 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 2: Now, guys, the thing is the store has cameras, and 61 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:19,519 Speaker 2: turns out they investigated, and since the audio is not available, 62 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:22,400 Speaker 2: the only thing seen was me walking away from the 63 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 2: woman and slamming the. 64 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:27,960 Speaker 1: Breakroom door behind me. Oh no, oh, pee, I guess 65 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 1: that doesn't look so good. 66 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 2: Now you think that's bad enough? Right, long, guess what? 67 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 2: I asked a supervisor who's a longtime buddy of mine 68 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 2: to check the punch in sheet. It is automatically filled 69 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 2: in by the computer, but is editable by management. So 70 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 2: I checked it just out of curiosity, and guess what, 71 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 2: someone effing deleted my break time that was logged into 72 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 2: the system. 73 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 1: Wow. 74 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 2: So now not only am I being accused of refusing 75 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 2: service to a customer, but I am also being accused 76 00:03:57,080 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 2: of not clocking out and leaving the premises to get food. 77 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 2: Was this a computer error or did the manager really 78 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:05,120 Speaker 2: do this on purpose to save his own acts? Or 79 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 2: does he simply not like me? We have a long 80 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 2: history of run ins with each other and is openly 81 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 2: well known that he does not like me. I will 82 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 2: not lay down and die like them, That's right. 83 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 3: I will fight, even right now when it seems that 84 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:21,280 Speaker 3: I have no allies. 85 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:26,480 Speaker 1: This is literally braveheart like, oh okay, there's another other thing. 86 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 2: So basically, two big things happen today, and I will 87 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:31,719 Speaker 2: try to explain them in as much detail as possible. 88 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 2: One I woke up bright and early in me to 89 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:36,119 Speaker 2: call to corporate. My plan was to simply to state 90 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 2: that I needed my issue investigated further, even if it 91 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 2: seemed like there was no problem, and there at as expected, 92 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 2: the person on the other end of the phone told 93 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 2: me the same thing they had already told me when 94 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 2: I had first called, but then I said the magic 95 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:52,840 Speaker 2: word subpoena. As soon as I made the calm, yet 96 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:56,840 Speaker 2: firm threat, the person immediately told me to hold on 97 00:04:57,040 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 2: for a second. You got a supervisor on the phone, 98 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:02,360 Speaker 2: whom I explained my situation once again, and he assured 99 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:04,479 Speaker 2: me that he would see into the matter. Oh and 100 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 2: I also asked for a way to email the president 101 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:08,920 Speaker 2: of the company, and I sent an email to him 102 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:10,360 Speaker 2: explaining my situation as well. 103 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 1: My boy is not given up. I had another plan. 104 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 1: I was going to catch my manager. 105 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:18,799 Speaker 2: Myself red handed, you know, just in case corporate build goofs. 106 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 2: So two, I walk into work and I immediately go 107 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 2: into the manager's office. I stand in front of him, 108 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:28,159 Speaker 2: and the conversation goes like this, Me, I have to 109 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 2: speak with you about something really important. 110 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:33,839 Speaker 1: Manager. Get it wait, I need to finish looking over 111 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:38,160 Speaker 1: these documents before twelve. Me, no, it can't wait. 112 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 2: Supervisor's name told me that my clock in and clockout 113 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:44,039 Speaker 2: time from lunch three days ago was not in the 114 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 2: log I know, I punched out an in. 115 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 1: So what happened? Manager? 116 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:53,680 Speaker 2: Huh weird? I'll look into it for you, all right, Me? Oh, no, 117 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:56,680 Speaker 2: need I already called corporate and they said they look 118 00:05:56,760 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 2: into it personally. 119 00:05:58,320 --> 00:05:59,920 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, buddy. 120 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 2: At this point, I had the whitish eating green I 121 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 2: have ever had in my life, and it felt good, 122 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:12,480 Speaker 2: real good. The manager audibly good at this point, No doubt, bricks. Manager, 123 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 2: you know that. 124 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 1: Wasn't really necessary. You could have come to me about 125 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:18,159 Speaker 1: this first. Me. 126 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:21,039 Speaker 2: Oh, I know, but I didn't want to waste your time, 127 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 2: seeing as you're so busy at all. You have more 128 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 2: important things to do than look over documents. At this point, 129 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:29,800 Speaker 2: he visibly begins to get annoyed by my attitude and 130 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 2: my sarcastic tone. But I've been just enjoying myself way 131 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 2: too much. 132 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 1: Manager, Now listen Tomato underscore ketchup. I'm not really liking 133 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:40,919 Speaker 1: your tone right now. Me. 134 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 2: I apologize anyways. I just wanted to give you a 135 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:46,920 Speaker 2: heads up in case corporate ask any questions. You know 136 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 2: how they are. At this point, some of you might 137 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:51,800 Speaker 2: be thinking why said the last part. Why Because I 138 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 2: had a small suspicion that, since he is a recently 139 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 2: made manager three months now, he probably didn't know that 140 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:02,720 Speaker 2: the system logs all to and re entries. Sure you'd 141 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:05,279 Speaker 2: be told this if you became manager. But I was 142 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:07,800 Speaker 2: trying my luck at this point because hey, I don't 143 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 2: see who else could have deleted my log times, and 144 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 2: b if it was him who deleted them, he obviously 145 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:16,240 Speaker 2: didn't know about the fact that the deletions are tracked. 146 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 1: So what was my endgame? Well? 147 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 2: Simple, I was hoping that due to this threat about corporate, 148 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 2: he would simply go back and add my times back 149 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 2: onto the lock. 150 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 1: And guess what, John. 151 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 2: What happened, Sam, He did just that. A couple of 152 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 2: minutes after a conversation, he comes to me and tells 153 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 2: me Manager. 154 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 1: Domato, catch up. I found out what the problem was. 155 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 1: It was a good to not system and apparently he 156 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 1: did register your punches. But everything's fixed now your long 157 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 1: time should be there. Me. 158 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:51,640 Speaker 2: Wow, thanks, I appreciate it. Manager, no problem. But wait 159 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 2: a minute, there's more. Just a couple of hours into 160 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 2: my shift, I see the manager leaving the store angrily, 161 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:01,280 Speaker 2: slamming the managers off store on his way out. When 162 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:05,120 Speaker 2: I asked my supervisor buddy what had happened, conversation went 163 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 2: like this, Dude, why is he so angry? I know 164 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 2: he was with corporated on the phone for a few 165 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 2: minutes and he asked me why I told you that 166 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 2: the time logs were missing. 167 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 1: Hold up, let me find out. 168 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 2: So my supervisor runs out to the front doors to 169 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 2: casual with the manager. I talk for a while outside, 170 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 2: after which my manager gets into his car and angrily 171 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 2: drives off. Then my supervisor comes back inside, walks up 172 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 2: to me and says, dude, I'm so sorry, but he's 173 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 2: quo with. 174 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:36,520 Speaker 1: Mike Tyson is a supervisor. 175 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 2: With found evidence of data tampoing and the punting log. 176 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:46,959 Speaker 2: He deleted your times yesterday and added them back today 177 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:48,840 Speaker 2: this morning to cover his death. 178 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:52,600 Speaker 1: Me. Wow, supervisor, yep, so there's that. 179 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 2: He will probably get fired and I will probably keep 180 00:08:56,640 --> 00:08:57,079 Speaker 2: my job. 181 00:08:57,280 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 1: He wow, hey, oh p just masterful, masterful work. He 182 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:08,840 Speaker 1: went against Karen's manager's corporate like every boss level all 183 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 1: read it. Who's who? Yeah, and he's defeated them all. 184 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:17,560 Speaker 2: But I would love to hear everyone's like, you know, 185 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 2: terrible boss story. I feel like there's probably a ton 186 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 2: everyone's going I would love to know what you guys think. 187 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:24,840 Speaker 2: Is OPD a hole for taking us all the way 188 00:09:24,880 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 2: to the top? John, What do you think? 189 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 1: Sweet justice is always so delicious? Like the Karen didn't 190 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 1: get what she wanted. He was able to basically looks 191 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 1: like Sack the boss, the terrible boss. And when all 192 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:41,319 Speaker 1: looked bleak right like he easily could have, they could 193 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 1: have just chalked it up like, all right, it looks 194 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 1: like he was ignoring this lady, and you know he 195 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:48,000 Speaker 1: didn't long his time, but then it worked out. I'm 196 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 1: obsessed with this jogger's gorgeous hair and just want to 197 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:53,880 Speaker 1: touch it. Today I made contact, but now they think 198 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 1: I'm a stalker? Am I a hole? Did they see 199 00:09:56,679 --> 00:10:02,839 Speaker 1: you running? There might be some similarities. Podcast Jesus strap insuckers, 200 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 1: come and revel in my awkwardness. So for literally years now, 201 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 1: this dude has been running around a three square mile 202 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 1: in my area. The only reason I've ever noticed him 203 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 1: was because of his flowing hair that gracefully blows behind 204 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 1: him as he runs, and the frequency that we saw 205 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:24,200 Speaker 1: him outside. Oh yeah, oh yeah, I'm taking pics now. 206 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 1: When he started, he was a little overweight, but dude 207 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 1: is so committed that he literally runs in rainstorms wearing 208 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:34,319 Speaker 1: trash bags and his hair fit. Now, damn, where's your 209 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 1: trash bag? Salm? 210 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:38,439 Speaker 2: I know, dude, My dad weighed one hundred and ninety 211 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:41,320 Speaker 2: five pounds at his peak, and now it's my goal 212 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 2: to weigh two hundred pounds. 213 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:47,160 Speaker 1: My dad was fucking ripped, dude. I mean, it's my dad, 214 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:53,200 Speaker 1: absolute beefcake. Look how freakin ripped he is, dude. And 215 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 1: then look this freaking scrawny boy right here, freaking tiny, tiny, 216 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 1: amasly dude, measly, measly. Over the years, I would cheer 217 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:07,480 Speaker 1: him on privately while inside my car, in an attempt 218 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:10,200 Speaker 1: to make my kids laughed. It became a thing. It 219 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:13,400 Speaker 1: was there's my dude, or man, I haven't seen my 220 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 1: dude in a while, I hope he's okay. Or my 221 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:18,960 Speaker 1: sister would say I saw my dude today. Kind of 222 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:21,760 Speaker 1: just an inside joke. But again, even after seeing him 223 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:24,760 Speaker 1: all the time while driving, I never actually ran into 224 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:27,400 Speaker 1: him in person on my walks. That brings me to 225 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:30,640 Speaker 1: the today fed up portion of the post. I decided 226 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:33,080 Speaker 1: to go on a different route recently. I look up 227 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 1: and through the sunlight in the trees, I see this 228 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 1: gorgeous golden mane of hair. I swear they're talking about you, dude. 229 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:43,640 Speaker 1: So I think, oh my god, oh my god, oh 230 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 1: my god, today's the day I meet my dude. He's 231 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:50,600 Speaker 1: getting closer now. I feel incredibly stupid. Why the F 232 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:53,640 Speaker 1: did this my dude thing even start again? He's getting 233 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:55,959 Speaker 1: closer now. He's much taller than I thought, and it 234 00:11:56,080 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 1: just throws me off. And I let him jog past me. 235 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:03,439 Speaker 1: I thought, I can't just not say anything, right, And guys, 236 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:06,840 Speaker 1: I really wish I didn't say anything. I really wish 237 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 1: I went home, called my sister and fake fangirled over 238 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 1: walking within inches of this mythical man with the hair. 239 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 1: But I'm an idiot. What did you do? O you? 240 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:19,640 Speaker 1: What did you say? So I turn around and yell, 241 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:25,680 Speaker 1: excuse me, my dad look at me. He switches around, 242 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 1: his marvelous hair, still jogging in place, and just looks 243 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:31,680 Speaker 1: at me. That's hilarious. He's just like, yeah, yeah, like 244 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:36,560 Speaker 1: what's up? Another fan? Then I say, we've been watching 245 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:41,120 Speaker 1: you for years. There's no good way to respond to that. 246 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 3: Oh what? 247 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 1: So he's like huh, and I say we've been watching you? 248 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:52,520 Speaker 1: Oh double down? Okay, like he couldn't hear me or something, 249 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 1: instead of what he really meant, which is probably what 250 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 1: the f. Yeah, my dude is still jogging, like what 251 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:03,080 Speaker 1: I stand. We've been watching you run. I mean, like 252 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:05,800 Speaker 1: me and my family like watching your run for years. 253 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 1: You look great, like wait, wait to go, dude, I 254 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:12,079 Speaker 1: don't know was fond to that, Like I'm so proud 255 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:13,760 Speaker 1: of you have watched for years. 256 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:16,440 Speaker 2: There's probably a lot of that though, where it's like 257 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:18,959 Speaker 2: there's this homeless guy that I see on my run 258 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:21,480 Speaker 2: and he's like lost a lot of weight, I think, 259 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:29,839 Speaker 2: mostly because he probably doesn't act, but he looks great. 260 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:34,120 Speaker 1: Oh my god, and you guys. I then gave him 261 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:38,960 Speaker 1: an effing thumbs up, like a zan's out soccer mom. 262 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:44,160 Speaker 1: So he says to this, uh cool, thanks and just 263 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:46,880 Speaker 1: kind of runs away. At this point, I feel kind 264 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:50,440 Speaker 1: of betrayed, like he's basically a celebrity in my house 265 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 1: and he just says cool, how dare he? Then it 266 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:57,640 Speaker 1: hit me how effing awkward and creepy and fed up 267 00:13:57,720 --> 00:14:00,440 Speaker 1: what I said and how I said it. What I 268 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:03,959 Speaker 1: tell my husband and he's like, wish you weren't so awkward, Bud. 269 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:08,320 Speaker 1: I tell my kids and they're like, wow, why would 270 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:12,040 Speaker 1: you do that? Yeah? Wow, and forget about it. Yeah 271 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:15,080 Speaker 1: for real. I tell my sister and she cries laughing 272 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:17,120 Speaker 1: because of how typical this is for me to be 273 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 1: so awkward. I mean like, I literally told a grandma 274 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:22,960 Speaker 1: don't eat the baby the other day at a store 275 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:26,680 Speaker 1: while she was nibbling on her grandkid's toes playfully. What 276 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 1: is my problem? A good question to ask, don't do it? 277 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:36,480 Speaker 1: So the main reason I'm even typing this, besides so 278 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:39,160 Speaker 1: you freaks out like to cringe at other's idiocricy can 279 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 1: read it. That's us, that's us, is that I appeared 280 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:47,120 Speaker 1: to be some weird version of Cia FBI Illuminati soccer 281 00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:51,280 Speaker 1: mom too, soccer mom, she does an X that's true. 282 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:54,160 Speaker 1: To my dude, he has been nowhere to be found. 283 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:56,880 Speaker 1: I have not seen him running around at all, and 284 00:14:56,920 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 1: I feel so bad that I may have possibly kind 285 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:03,200 Speaker 1: of weirded him out enough for him to change the 286 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:06,840 Speaker 1: entire area he has been running in for years. So, 287 00:15:07,280 --> 00:15:10,520 Speaker 1: my dude, if you see this, I am so not 288 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:13,840 Speaker 1: watching you in any way other than to admire your 289 00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 1: hair and admire your dedications to goodness. I apologize profusely. 290 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:20,160 Speaker 1: If I ever see you again, I promise I will 291 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:24,359 Speaker 1: not say anything. And to that grandma, if you're on Reddit, seriously, 292 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:26,920 Speaker 1: you should neat babies. I am not apologizing for that. 293 00:15:28,160 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 1: But there is one update. Today. I told my mom 294 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:33,400 Speaker 1: about my previous post and made her read it. Made 295 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:36,440 Speaker 1: her almost cease to exist from laughing so hard at me. 296 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 1: And then she says, yeah, but that guy is pretty weird, 297 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 1: and I say, uh, why do you say that? And 298 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:47,720 Speaker 1: apparently I am from a family of frequently awkward individuals. 299 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 1: You guys, my dad did the same thing as me. 300 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:55,360 Speaker 1: Thanks Dad, you're great. Oh my god. So he runs 301 00:15:55,360 --> 00:16:00,080 Speaker 1: into my dude in the store and he was like, oh, hey, 302 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:03,720 Speaker 1: so you're running all the time, You're looking great. Keep 303 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:09,720 Speaker 1: it up. Two people. My dad was a coach, so 304 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:12,960 Speaker 1: he's got this weird proud dad thing going on. My 305 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:16,040 Speaker 1: dude just kind of looks at him and says thanks 306 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 1: and slowly walks away. The end. I think it's pretty funny. 307 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 1: It's pretty funny. It's pretty hilarious. I'm pretty into it. 308 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:24,920 Speaker 1: If only there could be I mean, it's still kind 309 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:27,040 Speaker 1: of the question I guess is like, is it possible 310 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:29,600 Speaker 1: to have any explanation at this point to make it like, oh, 311 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 1: we just like happened to run by you sometimes, and 312 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:33,240 Speaker 1: it kind of just become a running joke, like oh, 313 00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 1: we always see you running and my kids, but didn't 314 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 1: even me for that. But uh, I don't know. Maybe 315 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:43,920 Speaker 1: this is the question for all of you beautiful joggers 316 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 1: and non joggers out there. Was OPI the a hole 317 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:52,120 Speaker 1: for both maybe stalking him and b for having this Really, 318 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 1: I mean she destroyed his running route. Yeah, that's that's cly. 319 00:16:56,760 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I think a little So that's I 320 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:01,840 Speaker 2: want to hear from ever else first, But I think 321 00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:04,760 Speaker 2: a little bit. But unintentional. He's a an a hole. 322 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:08,240 Speaker 2: It was unintentional. But you know, making someone uncomfortable enough 323 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:10,960 Speaker 2: to destroy their running root is kind of kind of sucks. 324 00:17:11,040 --> 00:17:14,480 Speaker 1: I'll give her the pass, but it is. It just 325 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:18,200 Speaker 1: sucks that this poor guy does not have his running 326 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 1: root anymore. Yeah, that really sucks. My evil coworker broke 327 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:25,360 Speaker 1: into my office, stole the parking spot from someone with cancer, 328 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:27,119 Speaker 1: and crash my baby shower. 329 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 2: But justice is about to be served, I hope. So 330 00:17:30,280 --> 00:17:32,920 Speaker 2: that's a lot of life ruining in in a row. 331 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:36,080 Speaker 2: If you Allen Hard that's my middle name. 332 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:40,040 Speaker 1: Working with you these past seven years has been terrible. 333 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:43,120 Speaker 1: You are a terrible coworker, and the entire organization thinks 334 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:45,120 Speaker 1: so do you know how hard it is to induce 335 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:48,040 Speaker 1: the scorn of nearly three hundred employees. Alan, it's pretty 336 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:51,240 Speaker 1: effing hard, Allan. But guess what, don't diet it? Alan's 337 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:54,160 Speaker 1: getting heat? What exactly is it that you do? I 338 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:57,160 Speaker 1: know you look around our office like you think you're important, 339 00:17:57,400 --> 00:18:00,760 Speaker 1: drifting into conversations like you have business there you don't. 340 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:03,840 Speaker 1: We will let you know when something pertains to you. 341 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:07,480 Speaker 1: I promise you float into meetings you aren't invited to 342 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:10,480 Speaker 1: and steal the extra lunches you don't even go here. 343 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:13,720 Speaker 1: I take those extra lunches downstairs to the interns who 344 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:15,720 Speaker 1: could use all the help they can get since they're 345 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:19,359 Speaker 1: working for free. And will whose entire paycheck nearly goes 346 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:22,359 Speaker 1: to pay for medical treatment for his disabled child. F 347 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:26,880 Speaker 1: you for taking their lunches when you make triple their salaries. 348 00:18:27,160 --> 00:18:29,520 Speaker 1: What in the hell are you even doing at those meetings? 349 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:32,240 Speaker 1: You have been told repeatedly that you aren't to invite 350 00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:35,159 Speaker 1: yourself to them, but you still do. Just wants to 351 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 1: be included. He's just out here trying, just a hungry boy. 352 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 1: Our CEO is a man who loves to hand out 353 00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:45,320 Speaker 1: second chances to you because you did that one spectacular 354 00:18:45,359 --> 00:18:48,439 Speaker 1: thing seven years ago when you first started OMG, you 355 00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:51,199 Speaker 1: totally brought us such a supporter. I will admit that 356 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:53,680 Speaker 1: it was much needed. But when he turned his back 357 00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 1: on our organization four years ago because of you, you 358 00:18:56,640 --> 00:19:00,080 Speaker 1: should have been fired. Now our nonprofit is barely scraping 359 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:02,680 Speaker 1: by because you're too lazy to go out and do 360 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:05,639 Speaker 1: your actual job, which is what we may never know. 361 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 1: You have one job, allan one fing job. How dare 362 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:12,720 Speaker 1: you go into my office and log onto my computer 363 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:14,960 Speaker 1: when I wasn't there. You don't think I know, but 364 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:17,359 Speaker 1: I do. You don't even work in my building. You 365 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 1: work in the office across town. Wait, it's a while 366 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:22,560 Speaker 1: down there. Why in the hell are you even here? 367 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:25,920 Speaker 1: You don't think I reported you to HR, did you? Uh? 368 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:28,720 Speaker 1: I did, and they were appalled. It's part of the 369 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:32,119 Speaker 1: reason you are now under review. I recently got a 370 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:35,000 Speaker 1: lock installed on my office door. Good luck getting in now? 371 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:37,879 Speaker 1: What the hell were you looking for? Anyway? Yeah? Alan, 372 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 1: you snooper. Also f you for calling me repeatedly while 373 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:45,000 Speaker 1: I was on maternity leave for things that weren't emergencies. 374 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:48,040 Speaker 1: Debbie was efing handling my stuff while I was out. 375 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:50,919 Speaker 1: You got the email I sent out regarding it that 376 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:54,040 Speaker 1: you also replied to I don't even deal with anything 377 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:56,760 Speaker 1: you would need to contact me about anyways. Do you 378 00:19:56,800 --> 00:20:00,280 Speaker 1: have a copy of that report from last year? Literally 379 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:03,600 Speaker 1: said that in one voicemail I received shortly after I 380 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:06,760 Speaker 1: gave birth. No, I don't efing have a report from 381 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:09,920 Speaker 1: last year because I don't handle the reports. I don't 382 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:13,199 Speaker 1: efing handle the reports. You aren't new you know this. 383 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:16,119 Speaker 1: The second and third calls while I was still in 384 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:19,000 Speaker 1: the hospital giving birth are about how the break room 385 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:21,119 Speaker 1: was out of paper towels. 386 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:24,080 Speaker 2: I don't know of interrupting the birth of your child? 387 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:27,200 Speaker 2: Is uh worth? The phone call Alan. 388 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:31,480 Speaker 1: Coming back after maternity leave to the two hundred something 389 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:37,520 Speaker 1: emails from you was wonderful. Two hundred emails F you Allen, 390 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:40,600 Speaker 1: F you and how you take Carrie's parking spot when 391 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:43,640 Speaker 1: you visit our location even though you know she has 392 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:46,639 Speaker 1: to park there because of her recent surgery because she 393 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:51,400 Speaker 1: has effing cancer? Alan, Alan? Also, how dare you come 394 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 1: to my baby shower? It was after efing work hours 395 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:59,000 Speaker 1: and the majority of my awesome cake that was my cake. 396 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:01,480 Speaker 1: No one invited you. How did you even find out 397 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:03,840 Speaker 1: about it? You don't even work in our office. Did 398 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:06,560 Speaker 1: you just decide to stay until seven pm one day 399 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:09,000 Speaker 1: at the office you don't work out for some reason. 400 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 1: You just stumbled into my closed office with that stupid 401 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:17,120 Speaker 1: look on your face and said, Loo, look okay, Oh 402 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 1: my god, f you Allen. I was pregnant. I was 403 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:23,040 Speaker 1: gonna eat that cake. I said you could have one piece, Allan, 404 00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:26,119 Speaker 1: not the rest of the cake. You really hurt Noah's 405 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:28,240 Speaker 1: feelings when you made fun of the way he speaks. 406 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:30,879 Speaker 1: He has an e fing speech impediment. You act not 407 00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:34,359 Speaker 1: to mention you worked at a fing nonprofit whose job 408 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:37,560 Speaker 1: it is to help people like Noah. How can you 409 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:40,840 Speaker 1: be so clueless? Alan, Tomorrow you have a review with 410 00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:43,600 Speaker 1: the board and the CEO to determine whether the apartment 411 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 1: you run is up to standards. I hope you fail. 412 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:48,719 Speaker 1: It sickens me to think that because of the jobs 413 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:52,719 Speaker 1: of individuals with disabilities who work at your location, depends 414 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 1: on your success. But I can't help but to like 415 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:58,000 Speaker 1: in the fact that you're failing. I will dance, Alan, 416 00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:01,159 Speaker 1: I will dance, and I will celebrate with cake mine 417 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:04,400 Speaker 1: not yours, and eat it quietly and alone. When they 418 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:07,080 Speaker 1: pull your expense records and find out that you are 419 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:11,480 Speaker 1: mismanaging funds and finally fire you. F you Allan, you 420 00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:15,240 Speaker 1: are the only thing I hate about my job. Wow, 421 00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:17,160 Speaker 1: Alan got a stern talking to. 422 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:20,320 Speaker 2: I mean, that was a that was a manifesto. It 423 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:23,560 Speaker 2: was I hope Alan gets fired me too. For oh 424 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 2: Pea's sake, anyone listening or watching has had like a 425 00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:30,119 Speaker 2: terrible coworker, like the Dwight equivalent. 426 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:33,639 Speaker 1: The terrible coworker stories. Y'all, y'all have to write on it. 427 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:36,640 Speaker 1: We always ask, but this one you have to it 428 00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 1: is now we need an indatory. Who are the Allen's 429 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:42,000 Speaker 1: of your office. My husband's cheating on me with my 430 00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:45,280 Speaker 1: high school bully. Should I let him continue to do it? Yes? 431 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:47,719 Speaker 1: But you should bully him for it. I just can't 432 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:50,520 Speaker 1: believe that he could fool me. His affairs started six 433 00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:53,080 Speaker 1: months ago. I could trace it six months back. Anyways, 434 00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:56,200 Speaker 1: it could have been longer. There were no signs, no indications, 435 00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:59,119 Speaker 1: no change of behavior, no change in the bedroom. I 436 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:01,840 Speaker 1: just found out by accident three weeks ago, when his 437 00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:04,639 Speaker 1: phone was on the night stand. My husband was sleeping 438 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:08,240 Speaker 1: with my high school holly. Yeah, he thought it was 439 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:11,000 Speaker 1: over in high school, but guess what and your husband. 440 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:13,119 Speaker 1: I grew up in a small town and this woman 441 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:16,800 Speaker 1: bullied me severely in middle school and high school. After graduation, 442 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:19,000 Speaker 1: I did everything I could to find a job in 443 00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 1: a bigger city and moved, leaving all of the hurtful memories. 444 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:25,400 Speaker 1: I worked hard for a year, found an apartment, bought 445 00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:28,280 Speaker 1: a car, and later started college. That's where I met 446 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:31,400 Speaker 1: my husband. We got married two years ago, and I'm 447 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:35,879 Speaker 1: eight weeks pregnant. Oh no, he doesn't know yet. I 448 00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:39,439 Speaker 1: will tell him eventually, don't worry. When I was in college, 449 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:42,080 Speaker 1: my bully reached out to me after we bumped into 450 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:44,000 Speaker 1: each other at a party. She was in a new 451 00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:47,199 Speaker 1: town and was glad that she saw a familiar face. 452 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:50,840 Speaker 1: She never acknowledged what she did, and I never confronted her. 453 00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:54,280 Speaker 1: I didn't want to open old wounds. However, I wasn't 454 00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:57,680 Speaker 1: going to befriend her, so I just rebuffed any attempt 455 00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:00,800 Speaker 1: of reconnecting. She still moved in the same crowd as 456 00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:03,800 Speaker 1: my husband and me. I never told my husband anything 457 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:06,680 Speaker 1: about her or our past. I wasn't even sure he 458 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:09,080 Speaker 1: knew her name. Sure, you know, it was a lot 459 00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:11,920 Speaker 1: more than her name. But three weeks ago, oh god, 460 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:14,240 Speaker 1: when my husband was in the shower, he got a 461 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:17,800 Speaker 1: notification on Messenger. I thought it was odd since he's 462 00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:21,280 Speaker 1: not been active on Facebook or Messenger in ages, we 463 00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:24,320 Speaker 1: don't know each other's codes. So I looked and there 464 00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:29,000 Speaker 1: was her name and pictures telling him she missed his sweet, 465 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:33,360 Speaker 1: sweet man meat. Oh it's a little telling. I scolled 466 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:36,240 Speaker 1: a few messages back and there was a full conversation. 467 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:38,760 Speaker 1: I felt sick and my eyes went blurry, so I 468 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:40,919 Speaker 1: just left the phone back to where it was and 469 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:45,640 Speaker 1: acted like nothing happened. Oh no. Over the next two weeks, 470 00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:48,520 Speaker 1: I looked in his phone whenever I could. I found 471 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:51,239 Speaker 1: out that my husband deleted Messenger when he didn't use 472 00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:53,959 Speaker 1: it except for the time that he forgot. I started 473 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:58,280 Speaker 1: doing the same whenever he's sleeping, playing games, are out 474 00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:02,040 Speaker 1: for a run, I took his phone an installed Messenger. 475 00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:05,680 Speaker 1: I could trace back their relationship six months. They've been 476 00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:09,360 Speaker 1: sleeping together for four A lot of graphic description of 477 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:12,000 Speaker 1: what they want to do or have done to each other, 478 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:15,280 Speaker 1: but also a lot about me. Although it was often 479 00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:19,320 Speaker 1: one sided. It's always my bully asking questions and trying 480 00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:22,040 Speaker 1: to get answers about me, and my husband is either 481 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:26,040 Speaker 1: reluctantly answering or outright telling her not to talk about me. 482 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:30,520 Speaker 1: But they've discussed my sex life, and apparently I'm Vanillah. 483 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:34,000 Speaker 1: To her constant questions about if he preferred me better, 484 00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:37,600 Speaker 1: he answered that it's different and he doesn't want to compare. 485 00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:41,679 Speaker 1: I have never cried my whole life combined, compared to 486 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 1: the last few weeks. I want to leave my husband, 487 00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:47,480 Speaker 1: but I don't want to tell him why. I don't 488 00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:50,280 Speaker 1: want to give him or my bully the satisfaction of 489 00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:52,440 Speaker 1: knowing that they hurt me. I just want to ask 490 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:54,880 Speaker 1: for the divorce and just tell him that I wasn't 491 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:56,919 Speaker 1: in love with him anymore and I'm not happy in 492 00:25:56,960 --> 00:26:00,239 Speaker 1: our marriage. I won't be lying technically because he's not 493 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:03,000 Speaker 1: the man I loved and I'm not happy in our marriage. 494 00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:06,200 Speaker 1: I haven't told anyone what I've found out, and she's 495 00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:09,320 Speaker 1: freaking pregnant, but I've told my mom that I want 496 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:12,280 Speaker 1: to leave my husband and stated the reasons above. She 497 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:16,400 Speaker 1: went berserk. This is so out of the blue and moronic, 498 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:18,920 Speaker 1: and the first question she asked was whether I was 499 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:21,359 Speaker 1: cheating on him or not. This was a preview to 500 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:25,040 Speaker 1: what probably everyone else will think and say, but honestly, 501 00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:29,520 Speaker 1: I would rather live with being the perpetrator than the 502 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:32,880 Speaker 1: victim this time. I just can't let that be hurt 503 00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:35,800 Speaker 1: me again, watch me suffer and enjoy it. I just can't. 504 00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:38,600 Speaker 1: I know I'm being irrational right now, but please put 505 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:41,240 Speaker 1: yourself in my shoes and tell me what you would 506 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:45,240 Speaker 1: do instead. Well, there is an update. I guess we 507 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:48,280 Speaker 1: answer the question, if you are in op shoes, what 508 00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:48,760 Speaker 1: do you do? 509 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:51,560 Speaker 2: I see what she's saying where she's like she wants 510 00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:53,479 Speaker 2: to leave it on her term. I don't think her 511 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:56,439 Speaker 2: plan is necessarily bad. Yeah, I think do whatever she 512 00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:58,240 Speaker 2: needs to do to feel good. I have broken the 513 00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:00,760 Speaker 2: news to my husband that I'm leaving. I had already 514 00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:03,280 Speaker 2: talked to my friends about it, and being unhappy in 515 00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:05,800 Speaker 2: my marriage seemed good enough a reason for them to 516 00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:08,480 Speaker 2: support me. One of them offered me her place until 517 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:10,760 Speaker 2: I find my own. I got really emotional and hugged 518 00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:13,440 Speaker 2: her and cried because that meant that I could leave 519 00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:14,520 Speaker 2: my husband's apartment. 520 00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:17,280 Speaker 1: Now, Oh my god. He was shocked when I told him. 521 00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:19,399 Speaker 1: I don't think he took me seriously at first, but 522 00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:21,679 Speaker 1: he asked me if he had done something wrong. I 523 00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:24,320 Speaker 1: told him that I'm simply not happy with him, and 524 00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:26,920 Speaker 1: I think I'm still too young to waste my life 525 00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:29,440 Speaker 1: in an unhappy marriage. He said he noticed me being 526 00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:32,080 Speaker 1: distant this past month, but never would he have guessed 527 00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:34,240 Speaker 1: that I was unhappy with him. He begged me to 528 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:37,359 Speaker 1: tell him what's wrong, because this can't be it. You know, 529 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:41,200 Speaker 1: you know, you know he believed me. However, when my 530 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:44,080 Speaker 1: friend came to take me with her. This was Thursday. 531 00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:47,720 Speaker 1: He's been calling multiple times a day, but I haven't answered. 532 00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:49,960 Speaker 1: He showed up this morning to my friend's house and 533 00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:52,439 Speaker 1: begged me to have breakfast with him. I agreed. He 534 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:55,320 Speaker 1: looks like he hasn't slept or shaven since I asked 535 00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:58,080 Speaker 1: for a divorce. I told him that I was pregnant 536 00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:00,120 Speaker 1: and that I'm keeping it, but he didn't have to 537 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:02,840 Speaker 1: be part of the baby's life if he didn't want to. Damn, 538 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:08,240 Speaker 1: man's getting freakin' done. His phone was on the table, 539 00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:11,919 Speaker 1: and then he got a notification he had forgotten to 540 00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:14,680 Speaker 1: the delete the app before meeting me. When I saw 541 00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:17,280 Speaker 1: her name on the screen, I told him, oh, is 542 00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:19,760 Speaker 1: that bully's name? You know she used to bully me 543 00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:22,800 Speaker 1: in school back when we lived in our hometown. He froze, oh, 544 00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:25,520 Speaker 1: I haven't told you about her. I told him everything 545 00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:27,720 Speaker 1: she did and how it affected me, how she never 546 00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:31,080 Speaker 1: apologized about anything. He was silent the whole time and 547 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:33,800 Speaker 1: just looked at me. I ended it with, be careful 548 00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:36,240 Speaker 1: with her. I don't think she's changed much. To tell 549 00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:38,800 Speaker 1: you the truth, he grabbed my arm and just washed 550 00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:41,680 Speaker 1: my face like he wanted to see if I knew something. 551 00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:45,240 Speaker 1: That's pretty stone cold right there. Honestly, my plan is 552 00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:47,320 Speaker 1: to buy a small apartment because that's all I can 553 00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:49,720 Speaker 1: afford right now. A one bedroom is enough until I 554 00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:52,120 Speaker 1: have my baby and it's old enough to need its 555 00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:54,480 Speaker 1: own room. I can upgrade later when i've saved more. 556 00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:57,040 Speaker 1: I'm not leaving this city. I've spent my best years 557 00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:59,400 Speaker 1: here and have the greatest memories. I have my friends 558 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:01,920 Speaker 1: around me, and hopefully they will be supporting me when 559 00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:04,800 Speaker 1: the divorce is a fact. I have already filed for divorce, 560 00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:07,760 Speaker 1: but he's probably going to ask for a thinking period. 561 00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:10,040 Speaker 1: I'm not in a hurry, though everything will be better 562 00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:13,040 Speaker 1: for now. I want to cry, try to get over him, 563 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:17,120 Speaker 1: and heal to be there for my baby. Props to 564 00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:20,440 Speaker 1: her for basically doing everything she wanted to do. And 565 00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:22,920 Speaker 1: that's like a movie moment where she's like telling him 566 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:26,360 Speaker 1: like it's over and then gets the messenger notification. With 567 00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:30,280 Speaker 1: the girl I know gets she gets the satisfaction of like, no, 568 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:33,160 Speaker 1: oh yeah, this is knowing, this is who she is. 569 00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:36,640 Speaker 2: And also, you just traded me for someone who is 570 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:39,800 Speaker 2: a complete asphole and bag that you can't trust. The 571 00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:42,239 Speaker 2: question is, was Obi thehole? I don't think she did 572 00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:44,760 Speaker 2: anything wrong. You know, when you feel like the victim 573 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:46,960 Speaker 2: so much and someone's just wrong to you you I 574 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:48,880 Speaker 2: think she just wanted to feel a little bit of 575 00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:52,600 Speaker 2: like power, yeah and that and like that power wasn't 576 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:55,280 Speaker 2: really taken in a malicious way. It wasn't even It 577 00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:57,000 Speaker 2: was just like the only power I'm just going to 578 00:29:57,080 --> 00:30:00,160 Speaker 2: have is the power of you not knowing if I 579 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:00,760 Speaker 2: know you know. 580 00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:02,560 Speaker 1: But I feel bad forro Pema. 581 00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:06,000 Speaker 2: My sister is a big bully, and so I snitched 582 00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:10,000 Speaker 2: on that toxic bimbo to destroy her precious little life. 583 00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:12,600 Speaker 2: Now she might be suspended and my dad is pissed 584 00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:14,840 Speaker 2: at me. So am I the a whole. 585 00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:17,880 Speaker 1: We don't hear the pro anarchy argument enough. 586 00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:21,880 Speaker 2: I think anarchy is good the situation at hand. My stepsister, 587 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:24,960 Speaker 2: seventeen female, has been bullying this girl in her grade, 588 00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:29,280 Speaker 2: Mia Dick. Mia is a very shy person. We were 589 00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:32,360 Speaker 2: never friends, but were friendly until the bullying started, and 590 00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:34,200 Speaker 2: then Mia withdrew from everyone. 591 00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:35,719 Speaker 1: That sucks. 592 00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:38,440 Speaker 2: I found out about the bullying a month ago. People 593 00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:42,280 Speaker 2: described it as not real bullying. But my stepsister has 594 00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:46,200 Speaker 2: called her names and told her she doesn't deserve friends. Yo, 595 00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:50,080 Speaker 2: your stepsister is like the epitome of a stepsister. Yeah, 596 00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:55,040 Speaker 2: the Disney like the Disney representation of what a stepsister is. 597 00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:57,800 Speaker 1: Bro. Disney really came for stepsisters. He came for step 598 00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:01,520 Speaker 1: mother and stepsisters. Dude, they're like this particular group of 599 00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:04,720 Speaker 1: people fuck new marriages in particular. Yeah, if you have 600 00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:08,600 Speaker 1: ever had a new marriage that thing in particular, they 601 00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:09,400 Speaker 1: hate it. They hate it. 602 00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:12,720 Speaker 2: If you're widowed, stay widowed. I found a note telling 603 00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:15,600 Speaker 2: Mia this which first mistake. Never if you're going to 604 00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:18,520 Speaker 2: bully someone, don't do it. In writing, I was pissed. 605 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:21,760 Speaker 2: My stepsester and I never had a good relationship, always fighting, 606 00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:24,200 Speaker 2: but I never figured out she was an actual bully, 607 00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:26,200 Speaker 2: just someone who got on my freaking nerves. I ended 608 00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:28,840 Speaker 2: up going to MIA's parents with what I knew and 609 00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:31,320 Speaker 2: the evidence of the bullying, and now it has been 610 00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:34,360 Speaker 2: brought up with the school and MIA's parents want my 611 00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:36,400 Speaker 2: stepsister expelled. 612 00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:37,520 Speaker 1: My dad is pissed. 613 00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:41,280 Speaker 2: He said, it's so unbelievably petty and mean spirited to 614 00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:45,800 Speaker 2: go to the girl's parents over sibling issues. It's not 615 00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:50,920 Speaker 2: really sibling issues if Mia is the collateral damage. I 616 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:53,600 Speaker 2: told my dad nothing between us would ever be sibling 617 00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:57,760 Speaker 2: issues because we're not siblings. Oh and my siblings younger 618 00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:00,840 Speaker 2: brother and sister would never do that to another person. 619 00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:03,800 Speaker 2: My stepsister has been suspended right now, but it looks 620 00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:07,160 Speaker 2: like she'll be expelled Thursday when the big meeting happens. 621 00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:10,920 Speaker 2: My dad's wife is freaking out, and so are my stepbrothers. 622 00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:13,920 Speaker 2: With the exception of my siblings, everyone seems to think 623 00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:15,880 Speaker 2: I'm wrong for doing what I did, for not at 624 00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:19,600 Speaker 2: least talking to my stepsister first. Also, like, if you're 625 00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:22,200 Speaker 2: going to get expelled for just the evidence of the 626 00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:25,080 Speaker 2: bullying that's happening, then you're probably doing something wrong. 627 00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:25,719 Speaker 1: Yeah. 628 00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:28,200 Speaker 2: I feel like going to be as parents was the 629 00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:31,400 Speaker 2: right call because of how serious bullying can be for 630 00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:34,600 Speaker 2: the person being bullied, and even calling someone names can 631 00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:37,800 Speaker 2: cut a person real deep. But I never expected this 632 00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:40,720 Speaker 2: kind of reaction. Life at home has been very awkward 633 00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:41,240 Speaker 2: right now. 634 00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:44,920 Speaker 1: So am I the angle? I want to know from 635 00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:46,600 Speaker 1: you guys, like what do you think? Also? 636 00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:50,280 Speaker 2: Were you a bully or have you been bullied? I 637 00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:51,840 Speaker 2: don't know if I want to know. The worst one 638 00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:53,840 Speaker 2: was the funniest way you've been bullied? 639 00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:57,040 Speaker 1: Funny, A funny maybe more lighthearted bully story, which I 640 00:32:57,040 --> 00:33:00,320 Speaker 1: guess which I have one right right? Yeah? I was 641 00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:04,320 Speaker 1: bullied all I was bullied every which way, seriously funnily. 642 00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:07,280 Speaker 1: And one of the funny ones was we would sing 643 00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:10,400 Speaker 1: these church songs. There was a song called it was 644 00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:20,240 Speaker 1: like our God is an awesome got the raid that 645 00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:25,600 Speaker 1: was a beggar, but his rendition was armand is an 646 00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:32,480 Speaker 1: awesome dude, He's awesome because Sam suro and there was 647 00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:35,480 Speaker 1: a couple other verses and everyone sung that in church 648 00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:37,680 Speaker 1: instead of the real song. So that was my That 649 00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:40,920 Speaker 1: was my Those were my funny bullying stories. It was. 650 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:43,480 Speaker 2: It wasn't funny in the moment, but pretty funny now. 651 00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:46,160 Speaker 2: But John, what do you think is OP the a 652 00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:49,560 Speaker 2: hole for going directly to me as parents? I don't 653 00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:52,840 Speaker 2: think at all that OP is wrong for going to 654 00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:57,160 Speaker 2: going to the parents. Definitely OP made the right call there. 655 00:33:57,240 --> 00:34:00,360 Speaker 2: I imagine there's four name calling and then just like 656 00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:05,360 Speaker 2: you don't deserve yeah, and also the slippery slow stop 657 00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:07,760 Speaker 2: it while it's just small small. 658 00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:11,160 Speaker 1: So I you know, if if like in this like 659 00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:14,760 Speaker 1: you know, perfect hypothetical scenario, that was all she said, 660 00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:17,279 Speaker 1: I would say that is too harsh. But I could 661 00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:19,160 Speaker 1: also see them being like, hey, we need to be 662 00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:23,239 Speaker 1: proactive so this doesn't escalate, especially with maybe other things 663 00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:25,280 Speaker 1: that were that they found in the messages and stuff. 664 00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:27,359 Speaker 1: I'm also surprised that me I didn't go to her 665 00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:30,200 Speaker 1: parents about it. Maybe she's like, see, it's embarrassing. You know. 666 00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:32,400 Speaker 1: I could see that being hard in some instances. I 667 00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:35,200 Speaker 1: probably would myself. But there's this one kid who is 668 00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:37,120 Speaker 1: like like a frenem me, like I never knew if 669 00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:39,360 Speaker 1: we were friends or like. His classic thing was you 670 00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:42,840 Speaker 1: know that thing where you can like squirt like sliva, 671 00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:45,360 Speaker 1: like if you do something the right way to just 672 00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:48,200 Speaker 1: do like like a little spray. He would literally do 673 00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:52,480 Speaker 1: that to the back of my head all class sometimes 674 00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:58,359 Speaker 1: ew and yeah, that's so gross, it sucked. What would 675 00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:01,480 Speaker 1: you say I'd be like stop. He wouldn't stop. You know, 676 00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:04,040 Speaker 1: that just encouraged him to, oh, you mean stop this bit. 677 00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:08,879 Speaker 1: One time the school was doing a video and he 678 00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:13,360 Speaker 1: did this at the camera, and he tried to convince 679 00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:18,840 Speaker 1: them that he was doing a bow. My disgusting girlfriend 680 00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:22,360 Speaker 1: is ashamed of her disgusting daughter because she's a loser 681 00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:24,839 Speaker 1: who will never be popular. So I gave her a 682 00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:27,080 Speaker 1: piece of my mind and made her cry. Am I 683 00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:29,200 Speaker 1: the a hole? When you don't birth out like a 684 00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:31,440 Speaker 1: homecoming queen, you're just a complete failure. 685 00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:34,640 Speaker 2: I'm a forty year old man and my girlfriend of 686 00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:37,120 Speaker 2: a year is thirty eight. She has a daughter from 687 00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:40,160 Speaker 2: a previous partner who is fourteen and a freshman in 688 00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:43,160 Speaker 2: high school. I imagined the daughter is fourteen and not 689 00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:44,160 Speaker 2: the previous partner. 690 00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:47,520 Speaker 1: It just says now that would be his story, Ladies 691 00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:49,479 Speaker 1: and gentlemen. My god, I went. 692 00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:52,520 Speaker 2: Over there yesterday to find my girlfriend crying. I tried 693 00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:54,680 Speaker 2: to figure out what was going on and where I 694 00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:57,360 Speaker 2: could help. When she told me she was crying about 695 00:35:57,360 --> 00:35:59,360 Speaker 2: her daughter and how she's doing in school. 696 00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:02,600 Speaker 1: Yeah she's not, she's not homecoming, She's but ugly. She 697 00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:06,279 Speaker 1: won Worst Dressed voted by me her own mother. I 698 00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:07,200 Speaker 1: love her daughter. 699 00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:10,359 Speaker 2: She's the sweetest girl ever. I wish my daughters were 700 00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:11,879 Speaker 2: as well behaved as her. 701 00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:16,759 Speaker 1: I EO total narc and never doing anything fun. I 702 00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:18,160 Speaker 1: have to describe her daughter. 703 00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:20,480 Speaker 2: She has a nice friend group, does not have trouble 704 00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:23,480 Speaker 2: with bullies, and generally seems very happy. I bet you're 705 00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:25,880 Speaker 2: wondering why her mother would be crying if this was 706 00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:28,640 Speaker 2: the case, sounds like the daughter's doing well. Her mother 707 00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:32,360 Speaker 2: slash my girlfriend was crying because her daughter is not 708 00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:36,040 Speaker 2: the popular athlete, cheerleader, homecoming queen. 709 00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:38,040 Speaker 1: That she was in school. Wow. 710 00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:41,720 Speaker 2: Oh well, maybe you should have given her some social lessons, 711 00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:42,680 Speaker 2: you know how to do that? 712 00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:44,880 Speaker 1: Who cares? Who gives a freak? 713 00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:47,800 Speaker 2: Her daughter marches to the beat of her own drum, 714 00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:50,800 Speaker 2: which I think is the best anyone can hope for. Yeah, 715 00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:53,359 Speaker 2: she's a little dorky, but her mother referred to her 716 00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:56,839 Speaker 2: as a louer during a crying fit. 717 00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:57,920 Speaker 1: Oh my god. 718 00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:00,680 Speaker 2: She's very into anime. Her and some of her friends 719 00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:04,000 Speaker 2: actually started an anime club at their school, which I 720 00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:07,000 Speaker 2: don't know is when you have any homecoming queen? 721 00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:09,320 Speaker 1: Yeah? Not not helping for the crown again. 722 00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:12,480 Speaker 2: She's a happy kid. She's got her social circle who 723 00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:15,239 Speaker 2: all have similar interests. It's just not the circle her 724 00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:17,279 Speaker 2: mom wishes she was in. Here are some of the 725 00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:21,600 Speaker 2: quotes from her during this that turned me RTT. I 726 00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:24,680 Speaker 2: never would have imagined my daughter would be a dweep. 727 00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:27,600 Speaker 2: She needs to grow out of this before college. And 728 00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:31,480 Speaker 2: my personal favorite, I wouldn't have been caught dead with 729 00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:36,360 Speaker 2: kids that look like that. Dude who cares about being 730 00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:38,480 Speaker 2: happy and having a friend group that loves you and 731 00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:41,120 Speaker 2: likes the things you do if you're not hanging out 732 00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:43,600 Speaker 2: with straight tens, okay and all serious this, this mom 733 00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:46,040 Speaker 2: sounds like a dirtbag, bro. She's a little bit more. 734 00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:48,440 Speaker 2: There's a little bit more. I called her disgusting and 735 00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:50,680 Speaker 2: told her she should be ashamed of herself, and I 736 00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:53,200 Speaker 2: said her daughter is happy, and how would she feel 737 00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:56,840 Speaker 2: to hear her mom crying about her perceived popularity. I 738 00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:59,080 Speaker 2: told her how lucky she has it that her daughter 739 00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:01,600 Speaker 2: doesn't deal with a lot of issues kids these days have. 740 00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:04,160 Speaker 2: This ends with her being upset with me because instead 741 00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:06,720 Speaker 2: of consoling her when she was crying, I called her names. 742 00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:09,240 Speaker 2: I don't think the crying means anything. She was saying 743 00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:12,279 Speaker 2: horrible things. So is OPDA hole. 744 00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:16,680 Speaker 1: Well, I'm very curious to hear everyone's thoughts, especially their 745 00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:21,080 Speaker 1: thoughts on like maybe it's how do you raise your popularity? Matter, 746 00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:22,760 Speaker 1: how do you raise your child? 747 00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:28,160 Speaker 2: Being comfortable with yourself That's way more important than being popular. 748 00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:30,560 Speaker 2: Like I was not popular in school, but like I 749 00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:33,080 Speaker 2: had this similar thing where, like, you know, I made 750 00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:36,080 Speaker 2: weird videos on YouTube, or I had like an internet comic, 751 00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:38,239 Speaker 2: and like I was just comfortable expressing that part of 752 00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:41,880 Speaker 2: myself even though it wouldn't make me popular. Knowing yourself 753 00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:45,680 Speaker 2: and allowing yourself to like just discover what your interests are, 754 00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:47,120 Speaker 2: that that's the most important thing. 755 00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:49,600 Speaker 1: And I feel like for us in our personal lives, 756 00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:52,920 Speaker 1: like that quality about ourselves is what has allowed us 757 00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:55,760 Speaker 1: to like have the audacity to do something like this podcast, 758 00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:57,799 Speaker 1: or like being a full time contract, which is like 759 00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:02,480 Speaker 1: very hard to like put yourself starting a podcast that 760 00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:05,600 Speaker 1: that takes guts. Oh yeah, it's sorry forget about your 761 00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:08,560 Speaker 1: your uncle or your your grandpa that went the World 762 00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:12,160 Speaker 1: War two. Starting a podcast that's the real battleground. I'm 763 00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:15,040 Speaker 1: very curious to especially all the parents in our audience, 764 00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:17,640 Speaker 1: how do you instill like self confidence in a child. 765 00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:19,200 Speaker 1: I would love to see what you're saying that the 766 00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:22,080 Speaker 1: comments spend. Also, if you think the question to answer 767 00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:24,239 Speaker 1: the question is Opie the a whole? I do not 768 00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:26,200 Speaker 1: at all think OPI's the a whole? I think I 769 00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:29,200 Speaker 1: think the mom really really needed this reality check of 770 00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:32,560 Speaker 1: like listen, you're like, I feel like she's gonna instill 771 00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:35,200 Speaker 1: this like sense of insecurity in her daughter where she's 772 00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:37,239 Speaker 1: gonna be like, am I like cool enough? Am I 773 00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:40,040 Speaker 1: like like constantly second guessing what she's doing. Would love 774 00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:42,360 Speaker 1: to know what you guys think, so put your answers 775 00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:45,319 Speaker 1: in the comments. I just slept with my cousin and 776 00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:48,279 Speaker 1: my friends are using that to destroy my life. But 777 00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:51,360 Speaker 1: then my friend's dad took a paternity test and it 778 00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:54,400 Speaker 1: revealed the truth. Am I the a hole? It revealed 779 00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:58,239 Speaker 1: the truth that this cousin is smoking hot? 780 00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:01,600 Speaker 2: So I twenty one mail come from a very large 781 00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:06,719 Speaker 2: and messy family. Think the Gallaghers from Shameless multiplied by ten. Literally, 782 00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:11,040 Speaker 2: everyone has multiple baby mamas slash daddies. Everyone isn't speaking 783 00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:13,279 Speaker 2: to about half the family at an even time, and 784 00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:15,960 Speaker 2: a lot of people have had kids taken off them 785 00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:19,040 Speaker 2: to be adopted. Or to go in foster care, and 786 00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:22,400 Speaker 2: almost every single man has done time in prison and 787 00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:23,640 Speaker 2: about half the women. 788 00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:27,839 Speaker 1: Wow, what a first sentence? Am I right, dude? This 789 00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:29,439 Speaker 1: is my paternal family. By the way. 790 00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:32,239 Speaker 2: My mom comes from a very normal family, and her 791 00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:34,279 Speaker 2: and my father have been divorced since I was six 792 00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:36,359 Speaker 2: months old. I didn't see much of my dad growing up, 793 00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:38,399 Speaker 2: but I've been trying to get to know him and 794 00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:41,080 Speaker 2: his family now. They're nice people, they just have a 795 00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:44,359 Speaker 2: lot of issues. It freaking sounds like it for real, 796 00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:46,719 Speaker 2: my dude. I remained in state for college, but I 797 00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:49,920 Speaker 2: moved about ten hours away from my hometown. In October 798 00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:51,920 Speaker 2: of last year, I had a short fling with a 799 00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:55,400 Speaker 2: girl at college, twenty one female called Haley. In December, 800 00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:58,760 Speaker 2: I spent Christmas with my paternal family because my dad 801 00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:01,360 Speaker 2: had just reconciled with his brother and he wanted me 802 00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:05,200 Speaker 2: to meet my cousins and it would just be. 803 00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:11,719 Speaker 1: My luck that Hailey No is no my no said. 804 00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:14,000 Speaker 2: I had no way of knowing, because we had never 805 00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:17,120 Speaker 2: met before, and she was adopted by her stepdad and 806 00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:20,400 Speaker 2: thus has his surname, not her father's surname. Once I 807 00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:23,480 Speaker 2: got over my shock and horror, I spoke to Haley 808 00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:26,280 Speaker 2: and we agreed to take the knowledge of our fling 809 00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:30,320 Speaker 2: to our graves and just to be friendly around the family. 810 00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:33,880 Speaker 1: I mean, hey, loo friendly, we already we already knocked 811 00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:37,080 Speaker 1: down the door. We're already in the room. Yeah, we've 812 00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:39,399 Speaker 1: already knocked down the barn door. Might as well play 813 00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:42,800 Speaker 1: with the horses while you're in there. Despite resolving the issue, 814 00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:45,399 Speaker 1: and waited my conscious for a bit, and I got 815 00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:47,239 Speaker 1: super drunk and told my. 816 00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:49,800 Speaker 2: Friend group, not a great move, buddy, Yeah, what happened 817 00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:52,840 Speaker 2: to dying with the knowledge. Most are sympathetic and reassured 818 00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:55,120 Speaker 2: me that I wasn't a bad person. But Mike twenty 819 00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:59,080 Speaker 2: to mail found it hilarious. I wouldn't have cared about 820 00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:01,960 Speaker 2: a few jokes, because admittedly the situation is funny in 821 00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:05,240 Speaker 2: a weird way, but Mike finds a way to werve 822 00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:08,840 Speaker 2: it into every single conversation. I want to talk about 823 00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:12,040 Speaker 2: Game of Thrones, He'll make a jamiean Circe joke. He 824 00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:15,399 Speaker 2: sends the articles about weird incest cults and we'll say 825 00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:18,680 Speaker 2: things like, don't worry, man, it's some cultures. It's normal 826 00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:20,360 Speaker 2: to get with your cousin to make fun of me. 827 00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:24,400 Speaker 2: Stop No, do'stup? That's hilarious. I've been dealing with this 828 00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:27,520 Speaker 2: since that brewery, so when he brought it up yesterday 829 00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:31,400 Speaker 2: at a hangout, I blew up. Basically, Mike's parents divorced 830 00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:33,759 Speaker 2: a few years ago because it was found out that 831 00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:37,120 Speaker 2: Mike's mom had been cheating around the time he was conceived, 832 00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:39,680 Speaker 2: and it took a year before Mike's dad agreed to 833 00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:42,600 Speaker 2: a paternity test. When he made a joke about Haley 834 00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:45,120 Speaker 2: and I, I just said, all right, but you didn't 835 00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:47,719 Speaker 2: know who your real father was for over a year. 836 00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:48,680 Speaker 2: Shut up. 837 00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:54,160 Speaker 1: If you can't take it, don't shoe fits snip off 838 00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:55,200 Speaker 1: foot's doing in it. 839 00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:57,640 Speaker 2: He left immediately and sent me a Texas say that 840 00:42:57,680 --> 00:42:59,680 Speaker 2: it wasn't his fault that he didn't know who his 841 00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:02,120 Speaker 2: falling there was and I was an apple for throwing 842 00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:04,280 Speaker 2: it in his face. Most of our friends are split 843 00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:06,520 Speaker 2: because I essentially called his mama stick by saying that, 844 00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:09,640 Speaker 2: But I think he had it coming. He wants an apology, 845 00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:12,719 Speaker 2: So am I the A hole? I want to know 846 00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:15,000 Speaker 2: what you guys think of the comments? Put it right now? 847 00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:17,360 Speaker 2: Do you think OP is the a hole for making 848 00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:20,799 Speaker 2: a joke about Mike's dad and Mike not knowing his 849 00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:24,680 Speaker 2: dad is for a joke about Op sleeping with a cousin. Also, 850 00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:27,080 Speaker 2: do you think OP os Mike an apology. 851 00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:29,680 Speaker 1: I think OP should apologize, and I think that Op 852 00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:32,279 Speaker 1: is the A hole. Really, I think that Op is 853 00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:35,640 Speaker 1: the a hole. Because here's here's my take. In my opinion, 854 00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:38,759 Speaker 1: I don't think it's that like big of a deal. 855 00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:41,560 Speaker 1: It's you know, what's a we're up in the country 856 00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:48,000 Speaker 1: in Florida. By the way, again, I don't think there 857 00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:52,240 Speaker 1: was that much harm there. And Ope's comments to Mike 858 00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:57,120 Speaker 1: bro that's deep, ye, a little little deep. I totally 859 00:43:57,400 --> 00:44:00,640 Speaker 1: understand OPI being like I want my to be so annoying, 860 00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:03,520 Speaker 1: like like I also don't want it to break out 861 00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:05,319 Speaker 1: like I told her this to you in confidence. I 862 00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:07,759 Speaker 1: think he needs to sit Mike down and be like 863 00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:12,279 Speaker 1: you really have to stop. Like it's just like, hey, 864 00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:16,080 Speaker 1: it was funny, but like it's honestly, just like so whatever, 865 00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:17,520 Speaker 1: you know, whatever the explanation is. 866 00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:19,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, but I want to know what you guys think. 867 00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:22,440 Speaker 2: So question to you guys, do you know someone that 868 00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:24,920 Speaker 2: hooked up with their cousin or did you. 869 00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:31,440 Speaker 1: Time my grandma is plotting to kidnap me for ransom. 870 00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:35,200 Speaker 1: I send money to support my family overseas, but apparently 871 00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:38,920 Speaker 1: not enough. Granny's trying to get her back. The title 872 00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:41,400 Speaker 1: says it all. I don't really know how to process 873 00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:43,600 Speaker 1: or what there is to process as the story of 874 00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:46,280 Speaker 1: immigrants go. My parents have been in the United States 875 00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:48,960 Speaker 1: for about four decades. They spend their time working hard, 876 00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:52,160 Speaker 1: becoming citizens and setting up their kids the best that 877 00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:54,600 Speaker 1: they can. Even though we never had much, my mom 878 00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:56,840 Speaker 1: has done her best to help the family that she 879 00:44:56,960 --> 00:44:59,960 Speaker 1: left behind. She sent money to different folks for necessities 880 00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:03,440 Speaker 1: since the American dollar goes much further there. Whenever she visited, 881 00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:05,960 Speaker 1: she would bring clothes that we outgrew and helped with 882 00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:09,400 Speaker 1: installing hot water, internet, et cetera. Dude, the mom is 883 00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:13,640 Speaker 1: like all around. She's the plumber, she's the wife, the 884 00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:17,480 Speaker 1: bank like my goodness. Fast forward to last year. My 885 00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:19,960 Speaker 1: mom was visiting my grandma at their farm in a 886 00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:23,160 Speaker 1: remote part of the country for an extended period of time. 887 00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:25,680 Speaker 1: There on the farm, she learned how the money she 888 00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:29,680 Speaker 1: sent was actually being used all these years. She grew 889 00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:33,680 Speaker 1: angry and disappointed with her family, holding them accountable for 890 00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:36,800 Speaker 1: the first time, It's unclear if there was a trigger 891 00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:40,160 Speaker 1: or if this was planned prior, but somehow her cousin 892 00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:44,000 Speaker 1: learned of the plans and told my grandma to run, 893 00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:46,600 Speaker 1: that she was in danger and that there was plans 894 00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:49,920 Speaker 1: to kidnap her. What my mom said at that moment, 895 00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:53,279 Speaker 1: several things clicked in her mind and she took off, 896 00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:56,600 Speaker 1: saying that there was an emergency here in the US. Sadly, 897 00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:59,840 Speaker 1: their intent was confirmed by another cousin who witnessed the 898 00:45:59,840 --> 00:46:03,799 Speaker 1: aftermath after she left, men rushing in looking for her 899 00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:07,200 Speaker 1: and Grandma being angry, trying to get her to stay 900 00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:10,319 Speaker 1: and discuss how they'll try again next time. This day, 901 00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:13,719 Speaker 1: it's believed that they don't know my mom knows. It's 902 00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:17,640 Speaker 1: also unclear if the extent was to extort money from 903 00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:20,359 Speaker 1: her or us who were in the States at the time. 904 00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:24,080 Speaker 1: She's figured out that my uncle Slash her brother was 905 00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:28,560 Speaker 1: aware but didn't try to protect her. That's so crappy. 906 00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:31,279 Speaker 1: My mom told my dad and I today, about a 907 00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:35,360 Speaker 1: year after it happened. It's just nuts. I'm angry. That's 908 00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:41,280 Speaker 1: not my family. That's absolutely crazy. They like baited the mom. 909 00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:44,520 Speaker 2: The mom came over, and then the grandma's like, Oh, 910 00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:46,839 Speaker 2: I bet I can get more money, like they've been 911 00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:48,719 Speaker 2: sending back all this money to me. I bet I 912 00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:51,799 Speaker 2: can get more money if I kidnapped the mom. Wow, 913 00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:54,760 Speaker 2: maybe granny's being like pressured by someone else. 914 00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:57,680 Speaker 1: But to freakin put your own daughter up for ransom? 915 00:46:57,840 --> 00:47:01,400 Speaker 2: Hey, the economy man in this economy, so real question? 916 00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:03,960 Speaker 2: How much money would it take for you to sell 917 00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:07,480 Speaker 2: your grandma? Put your answers and the comments below. 918 00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:11,080 Speaker 1: My homophobic family. Thanks, trying to make it in Hollywood 919 00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:14,120 Speaker 1: will make me poor and like ment. But now the 920 00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:17,839 Speaker 1: awards are rolling in? Are they trying to get my money? Now? 921 00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:20,879 Speaker 1: I'm keeping this anonymous as possible because I don't want 922 00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:22,680 Speaker 1: this coming back to me. I've been working as a 923 00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:25,239 Speaker 1: crew member in the film industry for several years at 924 00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:28,200 Speaker 1: this point. While I'm always passionate about movies and knew 925 00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:31,360 Speaker 1: I wanted to work in the entertainment industry, my family 926 00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:34,640 Speaker 1: never supported me. Come on, fam They are a very 927 00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:39,000 Speaker 1: religious family from the Midwest with some very narrow minded ideas. 928 00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:41,520 Speaker 1: I could go into further detail, but one of their 929 00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:45,200 Speaker 1: long stating beliefs is that Hollywood is going to turn 930 00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:49,319 Speaker 1: me gay or into a socialist, which you know it 931 00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:52,360 Speaker 1: will do both, but it doesn't stop my uncles and 932 00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:56,040 Speaker 1: cousins from cracking gay jokes or trying to make me 933 00:47:56,239 --> 00:47:59,880 Speaker 1: vote their way every time I visit. So then I 934 00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:01,759 Speaker 1: got a gig working for a movie a couple of 935 00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:04,400 Speaker 1: years ago. I can't say what movie it was, but 936 00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:08,000 Speaker 1: the director is known to be pretty left winged. Everyone watching, 937 00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:09,920 Speaker 1: I would love for you to. I bet one of 938 00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:12,840 Speaker 1: our audience could guess the correct director. So all of 939 00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:15,080 Speaker 1: you film buffs out there, comment what direct you think 940 00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:17,520 Speaker 1: it is? Now I had already stopped talking to most 941 00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:19,920 Speaker 1: of my relatives by then, but they still were talking 942 00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:23,520 Speaker 1: trash about how I was quote supporting anti Americanism and 943 00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:26,200 Speaker 1: labeled me stuff that would get this post banned. By 944 00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:28,800 Speaker 1: working on this film, this family sounds like a peach 945 00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:31,840 Speaker 1: as I'm typing this. The film I worked on is 946 00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:35,480 Speaker 1: a Academy Award nominee. Congrats, O fie dang. The gay 947 00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:38,520 Speaker 1: socialist agenda goes all the way to the top. Now, 948 00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:40,880 Speaker 1: I know Rednitt Likes is the Oscars, but for a 949 00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:43,680 Speaker 1: guy like me, this is a huge deal. But I 950 00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:46,680 Speaker 1: couldn't be prouder to be a part of it. Apparently 951 00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:50,120 Speaker 1: my family now thinks to too, because their Facebook feeds 952 00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:52,600 Speaker 1: are all about praising me and the movie. 953 00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:56,360 Speaker 2: Oh so they turned a little a little three sixty 954 00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:57,320 Speaker 2: to little one eighty. 955 00:48:57,480 --> 00:48:59,880 Speaker 1: Now even all the members who bullied me, signed to 956 00:48:59,880 --> 00:49:03,160 Speaker 1: me up for certain political mailing lists and never support 957 00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:05,520 Speaker 1: of my career are now chiming in. I don't want 958 00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:07,719 Speaker 1: to go into further detail, but normally they would be 959 00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:11,200 Speaker 1: singing another radically different tune if you catch my drift. 960 00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:13,680 Speaker 1: My wife is kind of pissed me now because I 961 00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:16,239 Speaker 1: took to Facebook and called everybody out. I made this 962 00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:19,200 Speaker 1: post venting about all the ways they were a holes 963 00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:21,239 Speaker 1: to be growing up and leading up to now, and 964 00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:25,080 Speaker 1: how they took every possible way to undermine my career 965 00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:27,520 Speaker 1: that I'm happy and proud of. And if I were 966 00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:30,200 Speaker 1: actually to make an Oscar speech, I sure as hell 967 00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:32,680 Speaker 1: would not be thinking them because they never gave a 968 00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:36,640 Speaker 1: damn about my accomplishments because it doesn't agree with their 969 00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:39,600 Speaker 1: fed up ideology. So they should take down all these 970 00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:42,640 Speaker 1: posts praising my movie because it makes them look like idiots, 971 00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:44,719 Speaker 1: especially when you compare it to the rest of the 972 00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:48,480 Speaker 1: stuff they usually post. Opie did not hold back, I know, 973 00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:50,480 Speaker 1: and put this all on the post. I wonder if 974 00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:53,360 Speaker 1: he's like adding each individual family member and it's like 975 00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:57,040 Speaker 1: and Sandra, I know you just put that little Facebook 976 00:49:57,080 --> 00:50:00,359 Speaker 1: post praising my oscar, But how about when you called 977 00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:03,719 Speaker 1: me a dirty socialist? How about that My relatives have 978 00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:06,640 Speaker 1: been spamming my social media and phone and berating me 979 00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:09,480 Speaker 1: for my posts, saying that I'm ungrateful and I owe 980 00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:12,400 Speaker 1: it to them for what I don't know. My wife, 981 00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:15,680 Speaker 1: while she doesn't like them either, thinks I went overboard 982 00:50:15,719 --> 00:50:17,880 Speaker 1: and I should have just cut ties with the toxic 983 00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:21,840 Speaker 1: members and ignore the posts. I disagree. They treated me 984 00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:25,200 Speaker 1: like garbage for years, so they don't deserve to piggyback 985 00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:28,080 Speaker 1: on what basically is the biggest high of my career 986 00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:30,399 Speaker 1: so far. If I don't tell them to knock it off, 987 00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:33,600 Speaker 1: they'll just continue to mooch on it. From afar, So 988 00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:36,480 Speaker 1: am I the a hole? I mean? I want to 989 00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:38,719 Speaker 1: know what everyone else thinks? Maybe a little bit. 990 00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:42,520 Speaker 2: I think the best response to your enemies is to 991 00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:44,520 Speaker 2: not be like them and like to call them out. 992 00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:47,120 Speaker 2: Maybe is being a little bit like them. The best 993 00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:49,440 Speaker 2: thing you could do is just ignore them and cut 994 00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:50,320 Speaker 2: them out of your life. 995 00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:53,080 Speaker 1: I think at that point you just messaged them privately 996 00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:56,239 Speaker 1: and you're like, listen, you clowned me for like all 997 00:50:56,280 --> 00:50:58,400 Speaker 1: these years. You don't get to be a part of 998 00:50:58,440 --> 00:51:00,880 Speaker 1: my success, and now you have. You haven't stooped to 999 00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:04,040 Speaker 1: their level by publicly, you know, embarrassing them, but you've 1000 00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:06,880 Speaker 1: let them know like you cannot you know, ride my coattails. 1001 00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:08,480 Speaker 2: But we'd love to know what you think. You know, 1002 00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:10,560 Speaker 2: what do you think, ohp he should do? You know, 1003 00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:13,279 Speaker 2: maybe there's a little bit of an opportunity for education here. 1004 00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:17,640 Speaker 1: Who knows. My homophobic dad disowned me because I'm gay, 1005 00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:20,719 Speaker 1: but now he's marrying a man. I want to expose 1006 00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:23,160 Speaker 1: him and ruin the wedding. Am I the a hole? 1007 00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:25,800 Speaker 1: My father threw me out of the house at fifteen 1008 00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:27,759 Speaker 1: for coming out as gay disgusting. 1009 00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:29,960 Speaker 2: I am now twenty one and happily married to the 1010 00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:32,960 Speaker 2: boyfriend I wanted to introduce him to when I was fifteen. 1011 00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:36,880 Speaker 2: On my wedding day, my father had an invitation to 1012 00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:40,120 Speaker 2: his wedding hand delivered to me by one of those 1013 00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:43,080 Speaker 2: hired delivery people. I don't know what they're called. His 1014 00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:46,880 Speaker 2: wedding dates is the anniversary of when I started dating 1015 00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:50,680 Speaker 2: my husband. Both dates he knew because of my uncle, what. 1016 00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:51,959 Speaker 1: Is going on over here. 1017 00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:55,080 Speaker 2: I threw the invitation away and didn't even think about 1018 00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:58,240 Speaker 2: it until my aunt, his sister, reached out and told 1019 00:51:58,239 --> 00:52:01,640 Speaker 2: me he wanted to talk and appalledologized for everything, and 1020 00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:05,280 Speaker 2: that he wanted me to be at his wedding. Okay, 1021 00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:08,920 Speaker 2: I told her that I consider it and talk to 1022 00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:11,160 Speaker 2: my husband about it. He's the one who convinced me 1023 00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:14,200 Speaker 2: to go and said we should just see what he says. 1024 00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:17,360 Speaker 2: We drove down a day early, and my father basically 1025 00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:19,839 Speaker 2: avoided us all day. I know weddings are a busy time, 1026 00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:22,359 Speaker 2: but every time one of us tried to speak to him, 1027 00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:24,760 Speaker 2: he had to go somewhere, and then he said he'd 1028 00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:27,040 Speaker 2: talk to me after the wedding. The problem with this 1029 00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:30,040 Speaker 2: was that their reception wasn't supposed to end until two, 1030 00:52:30,239 --> 00:52:32,319 Speaker 2: and they had a flight for three point thirty to 1031 00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:34,719 Speaker 2: their honeymoon, so I knew he wouldn't be able to 1032 00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:36,839 Speaker 2: talk to me, and then me and my husband were 1033 00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:39,759 Speaker 2: going to leave the reception as soon as was appropriate 1034 00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:42,560 Speaker 2: to go around our hometown to places we haunted in 1035 00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:44,640 Speaker 2: high school when we first started dating. 1036 00:52:44,520 --> 00:52:53,480 Speaker 1: But haunted doing me a goodness crasis. Oh, sound like 1037 00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:54,280 Speaker 1: a dying wolf. 1038 00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:59,040 Speaker 2: I was going for a sexy ghosts. Because my father's 1039 00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:01,279 Speaker 2: wedding was held in the morning, we thought we could 1040 00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:04,560 Speaker 2: celebrate our anniversary in the afternoon and evening. I informed 1041 00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:06,680 Speaker 2: him of this, and he said that he would just 1042 00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:09,640 Speaker 2: call me when he could. That's when I realized none 1043 00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:13,719 Speaker 2: of his fiance's family or his fiance had any idea 1044 00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:16,000 Speaker 2: that he had thrown me out and that he had 1045 00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:19,160 Speaker 2: told them I moved away from college. I gathered this 1046 00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:22,359 Speaker 2: through talking to his fiance and his family. I'd never 1047 00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:25,080 Speaker 2: met the fiance nor his family until the day before 1048 00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:27,880 Speaker 2: the wedding, and only briefly. I didn't really sit down 1049 00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:29,840 Speaker 2: and talk to any of them until the morning of 1050 00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:33,320 Speaker 2: the ceremony. So my dad's fiance asked me about college. 1051 00:53:33,400 --> 00:53:36,839 Speaker 2: I was like, uh, I've never been to college. That's 1052 00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:39,680 Speaker 2: when I realized what my father never told him, That 1053 00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:40,640 Speaker 2: he kicked out. 1054 00:53:40,480 --> 00:53:43,319 Speaker 1: His own son for being gay. This guy has the 1055 00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:45,440 Speaker 1: audacity to bring him back. 1056 00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:47,279 Speaker 2: And like, yeah, you should really just like say what 1057 00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:49,800 Speaker 2: happened in the past. 1058 00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:50,880 Speaker 1: Like it's going to come out. Also, how was the 1059 00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:53,680 Speaker 1: fiance or no one else like, oh, hey, here's your 1060 00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:55,920 Speaker 1: son we're meeting for the first time ever. 1061 00:53:56,200 --> 00:54:01,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, likeha, I told him the truth breakfast before we 1062 00:54:01,239 --> 00:54:04,240 Speaker 2: even had left for the venue. I objected the marriage 1063 00:54:04,360 --> 00:54:08,120 Speaker 2: right then, before the ceremony even started. I objected because 1064 00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:10,480 Speaker 2: I realized that this man was in love with my father, 1065 00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:13,440 Speaker 2: but my father had lied to him, and I felt 1066 00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:15,719 Speaker 2: that he deserved to know before they got married. I 1067 00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:19,880 Speaker 2: apologized and then explained the situation, and then promptly left. 1068 00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:21,880 Speaker 2: A lot of my family members said I was an 1069 00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:24,440 Speaker 2: asshole and that I could have waited until they got married. 1070 00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:26,959 Speaker 2: But I don't think the fiance deserved to marry someone 1071 00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:30,440 Speaker 2: who lied about something so big, especially something that was homophobic, 1072 00:54:30,560 --> 00:54:33,560 Speaker 2: and they're a homosexual couple. I'm just surprised that the 1073 00:54:33,560 --> 00:54:34,840 Speaker 2: father never said anything. 1074 00:54:35,200 --> 00:54:37,560 Speaker 1: Nothing. And hey, like, coming out. 1075 00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:40,960 Speaker 2: Is really really difficult, especially in some areas of the country, 1076 00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:42,960 Speaker 2: and there can be a lot of self hatred for 1077 00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:46,600 Speaker 2: people who just don't feel comfortable in their own identities, 1078 00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:49,640 Speaker 2: and so like, yes, it sucks and it's not excusable, 1079 00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:52,200 Speaker 2: and it's like it's it's really really bad, but that 1080 00:54:52,200 --> 00:54:54,920 Speaker 2: can be part of your your you know, coming of 1081 00:54:54,960 --> 00:54:56,799 Speaker 2: age and coming to terms with who you are and 1082 00:54:56,880 --> 00:54:59,680 Speaker 2: coming out story, and you can be you can say like, hey, 1083 00:54:59,719 --> 00:55:01,800 Speaker 2: I was terrible before, but I've come around. 1084 00:55:02,040 --> 00:55:04,759 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, which hopefully is the case. It's like 1085 00:55:05,680 --> 00:55:09,799 Speaker 1: I would have to imagine that. But it also is 1086 00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:12,920 Speaker 1: still weird that he literally didn't talk to like, he 1087 00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:15,440 Speaker 1: didn't talk till the sun till it made him look good, 1088 00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:18,080 Speaker 1: which is the sun coming to the wedding. Yeah, you know. 1089 00:55:18,239 --> 00:55:20,560 Speaker 1: So it's just so confusing a little bit more to 1090 00:55:20,600 --> 00:55:20,919 Speaker 1: the story. 1091 00:55:21,040 --> 00:55:23,560 Speaker 2: I only heard about the big fallout through my aunt 1092 00:55:23,640 --> 00:55:27,000 Speaker 2: because I left with my husband. But apparently my father 1093 00:55:27,200 --> 00:55:31,440 Speaker 2: an ex fiance, oh ex fiance got into a massive 1094 00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:35,279 Speaker 2: argument and the wedding was called off. I don't speak 1095 00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:38,400 Speaker 2: to either parties now, though I did message the fiance 1096 00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:41,480 Speaker 2: on Facebook to apologize later that day because I felt 1097 00:55:41,480 --> 00:55:43,800 Speaker 2: bad about ruining his wedding, but he said he was 1098 00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:46,239 Speaker 2: glad that I told him the truth. So the question, 1099 00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:48,600 Speaker 2: all of you beautiful people, is, is op the a 1100 00:55:48,760 --> 00:55:51,640 Speaker 2: hole by telling the truth about his homophobic father who's 1101 00:55:51,640 --> 00:55:53,680 Speaker 2: getting married to a man at the wedding? 1102 00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:54,520 Speaker 1: Wow? 1103 00:55:54,760 --> 00:55:57,239 Speaker 2: John, I want to tipp tapped right now on your 1104 00:55:57,320 --> 00:55:59,160 Speaker 2: keyboards and tell us who you think the a hole is. 1105 00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:02,200 Speaker 1: But John, what do you think help me out here, guys. Okay, 1106 00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:05,879 Speaker 1: I do not think that OPI is the A hole, 1107 00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:10,040 Speaker 1: because I do think that this is a truth that 1108 00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:13,680 Speaker 1: both it's a a truth that the fiance deserves to 1109 00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:17,239 Speaker 1: know because it's pretty like integral to like his life. 1110 00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:20,719 Speaker 1: He is a gay man, so to like that is 1111 00:56:20,719 --> 00:56:24,480 Speaker 1: an important part of your partner's past and like to 1112 00:56:24,600 --> 00:56:28,000 Speaker 1: know to be aware of. And also like the father 1113 00:56:28,560 --> 00:56:31,160 Speaker 1: literally kicked out his own son at fifteen years old 1114 00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:34,960 Speaker 1: and like thinks he's gonna skate out and like get 1115 00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:38,359 Speaker 1: away with him repercussions to face the music, like that's 1116 00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:42,759 Speaker 1: like no, so and hey, the fiance thanked OPI, like 1117 00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:45,480 Speaker 1: thank you for telling me the truth. At least he 1118 00:56:45,520 --> 00:56:47,840 Speaker 1: didn't have to get the marriage and old like and 1119 00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:50,319 Speaker 1: that's so crazy with the family, Like oh, just like 1120 00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:52,479 Speaker 1: wait till after the wedding. It's like bro, then they're 1121 00:56:52,520 --> 00:56:54,399 Speaker 1: married and they have to go through the divorce, which 1122 00:56:54,440 --> 00:56:57,000 Speaker 1: is not easy, so it's like what are we doing? 1123 00:56:57,080 --> 00:57:00,239 Speaker 1: I completely agree, I think op is not the A hole. Oh, 1124 00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:02,080 Speaker 1: he didn't have a choice. He was literally like invited 1125 00:57:02,120 --> 00:57:04,719 Speaker 1: to the wedding and it happened, Like guys, tell tell 1126 00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:07,719 Speaker 1: the people before the goddamn wedding, Like, yeah, this is 1127 00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:08,959 Speaker 1: what we need to do. 1128 00:57:09,640 --> 00:57:13,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, the dad could have saved the wedding if he 1129 00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:17,560 Speaker 2: had said what happened. Be honest, be honest because it's 1130 00:57:17,560 --> 00:57:19,440 Speaker 2: Good's all we're saying, Yo, just. 1131 00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:25,320 Speaker 1: Be honest, be honest, yourself homophobic, and then be honest. Yeah. 1132 00:57:25,360 --> 00:57:27,880 Speaker 2: Also, I would love to know if anyone has ever 1133 00:57:27,920 --> 00:57:29,080 Speaker 2: objected to a wedding. 1134 00:57:29,440 --> 00:57:34,800 Speaker 1: Oh I object, bro, we need some straight shrek objections 1135 00:57:34,800 --> 00:57:36,800 Speaker 1: in our comments. Please drop him back. 1136 00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:40,640 Speaker 2: Guy, my best friend thinks it's our anniversary, but we're 1137 00:57:40,720 --> 00:57:44,280 Speaker 2: not even dating. Now he's going on a sexist rant. 1138 00:57:44,480 --> 00:57:46,480 Speaker 2: Should I get him canceled? Am I the a hole? 1139 00:57:46,520 --> 00:57:49,200 Speaker 2: I've known him for five years, different classes and courses, 1140 00:57:49,240 --> 00:57:52,240 Speaker 2: but same friend group. Over time, he has genuinely become 1141 00:57:52,360 --> 00:57:54,439 Speaker 2: one of the best people I know, and it's only 1142 00:57:54,480 --> 00:57:55,760 Speaker 2: getting better every day. 1143 00:57:55,840 --> 00:57:57,400 Speaker 1: I can't lie. He's not my type. 1144 00:57:57,520 --> 00:58:00,600 Speaker 2: Nerdy, charming, sweet, funny, flirty with the right amount awkward. 1145 00:58:00,680 --> 00:58:02,120 Speaker 2: It sounds like you're describing your type. 1146 00:58:02,160 --> 00:58:02,880 Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. 1147 00:58:03,280 --> 00:58:06,320 Speaker 2: He's kind of perfect, but I've never even thought about 1148 00:58:06,320 --> 00:58:09,160 Speaker 2: putting the moves on him. He's never shown romantic interest 1149 00:58:09,200 --> 00:58:13,040 Speaker 2: to me. We're friends, nothing more, or that's what I thought. 1150 00:58:13,400 --> 00:58:14,720 Speaker 1: Today. He was spending the. 1151 00:58:14,680 --> 00:58:17,640 Speaker 2: Afternoon at my dorm. We're laying on my bed when 1152 00:58:17,680 --> 00:58:20,320 Speaker 2: he says, verbatim, so, baby, where do you want to 1153 00:58:20,360 --> 00:58:23,520 Speaker 2: go this Friday? No matter of fact that this is 1154 00:58:23,560 --> 00:58:25,560 Speaker 2: the first time I've been called baby by him, and 1155 00:58:25,600 --> 00:58:26,640 Speaker 2: so that kind of shocked me. 1156 00:58:26,760 --> 00:58:27,919 Speaker 1: Instead of asking. 1157 00:58:27,720 --> 00:58:31,840 Speaker 2: Why, I froze and was just like, what's happening Friday? 1158 00:58:32,120 --> 00:58:36,080 Speaker 2: He turns to me and kisses me again, first time 1159 00:58:36,160 --> 00:58:39,439 Speaker 2: thing with us, hugs my waist and goes our one 1160 00:58:39,560 --> 00:58:43,240 Speaker 2: year anniversary. Idiot, I'm making reservations. 1161 00:58:43,640 --> 00:58:44,840 Speaker 1: You're the idiot. 1162 00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:47,520 Speaker 2: I love pands like you know what. We're just dating 1163 00:58:47,600 --> 00:58:49,360 Speaker 2: right now. It's in my head. I'm just gonna make 1164 00:58:49,400 --> 00:58:52,360 Speaker 2: it a reality. At this point, I'm frozen. I genuinely 1165 00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:55,560 Speaker 2: don't know what to say. I'm gobsmacked. The dude I 1166 00:58:55,600 --> 00:58:58,120 Speaker 2: thought was my best friend, who never even showed interest 1167 00:58:58,200 --> 00:59:00,919 Speaker 2: in the dating thing, is under the idea that we've 1168 00:59:00,920 --> 00:59:05,360 Speaker 2: been dating for an entire year. I'm silent while he 1169 00:59:05,400 --> 00:59:08,880 Speaker 2: continues hugging me and scrolling on his phone, racking my 1170 00:59:09,080 --> 00:59:12,320 Speaker 2: brain thinking about what to tell him. When his phone 1171 00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:15,800 Speaker 2: starts ringing, it's his mom. Which he puts on speaker 1172 00:59:15,960 --> 00:59:18,280 Speaker 2: and she dead goes. 1173 00:59:18,160 --> 00:59:20,720 Speaker 1: Hi, honey, are you still with your girlfriend? 1174 00:59:21,200 --> 00:59:25,200 Speaker 2: Oh my god, So now his mom thanks for dating too, 1175 00:59:25,480 --> 00:59:28,680 Speaker 2: He tells her sorry, I'll be back in a bit, sweetheart. 1176 00:59:28,840 --> 00:59:31,000 Speaker 2: I just nodded, and I was just like, all right, 1177 00:59:31,320 --> 00:59:35,160 Speaker 2: see you in a bit. No questions, no screaming, just acceptance, 1178 00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:37,320 Speaker 2: which I guess is the best way that's going to 1179 00:59:37,400 --> 00:59:39,240 Speaker 2: gone for this guy, who is like, oh. 1180 00:59:38,960 --> 00:59:40,720 Speaker 1: I just pulled out the biggest sic in history. 1181 00:59:41,120 --> 00:59:43,400 Speaker 2: He gets up to put on his sneakers and leans 1182 00:59:43,440 --> 00:59:46,320 Speaker 2: down to kiss me again, which I just accept at 1183 00:59:46,320 --> 00:59:48,480 Speaker 2: this point. It's a nice kiss besides the fact that 1184 00:59:48,520 --> 00:59:51,680 Speaker 2: my mind is somewhere else and he leaves. Apparently the 1185 00:59:51,760 --> 00:59:54,560 Speaker 2: majority of people I talked to think we're dating, or 1186 00:59:54,600 --> 00:59:58,360 Speaker 2: if I'm being correct here, no, we're dating, and just 1187 00:59:58,440 --> 00:59:59,920 Speaker 2: have never mentioned it to me. 1188 01:00:00,240 --> 01:00:02,920 Speaker 1: This makes no sense. I don't know what to do now. 1189 01:00:03,040 --> 01:00:05,000 Speaker 2: I mean, he's a great guy, don't get me wrong, 1190 01:00:05,040 --> 01:00:07,640 Speaker 2: and if the last five years or anything to go by, 1191 01:00:07,840 --> 01:00:11,840 Speaker 2: he would be is a great boyfriend, maybe even in 1192 01:00:11,920 --> 01:00:14,480 Speaker 2: the future a husband. But I've never looked at him 1193 01:00:14,520 --> 01:00:16,160 Speaker 2: that way, so I can't say I love him. When 1194 01:00:16,160 --> 01:00:18,880 Speaker 2: this occurred, it was like the glass shattered, and I 1195 01:00:18,920 --> 01:00:21,440 Speaker 2: saw how differently he looked at me, how he talked 1196 01:00:21,680 --> 01:00:25,000 Speaker 2: and acted, stuff that never changed at the beginning. But 1197 01:00:25,080 --> 01:00:27,440 Speaker 2: for some reason I've never noticed. I can't sit here 1198 01:00:27,480 --> 01:00:30,080 Speaker 2: and pretend I love him like that. I wasn't thinking 1199 01:00:30,120 --> 01:00:31,400 Speaker 2: about him in that sense. 1200 01:00:31,280 --> 01:00:33,600 Speaker 1: All this time. But on the other side, I don't 1201 01:00:33,600 --> 01:00:34,200 Speaker 1: want to hurt him. 1202 01:00:34,240 --> 01:00:37,040 Speaker 2: He clearly thinks we've been together for that long, so 1203 01:00:37,200 --> 01:00:39,480 Speaker 2: he has to have strong feelings for me, and I 1204 01:00:39,520 --> 01:00:41,800 Speaker 2: don't want to step on them and scar him like that. 1205 01:00:41,920 --> 01:00:44,640 Speaker 2: But a year, how do you not kiss for a 1206 01:00:44,760 --> 01:00:45,920 Speaker 2: year and think your data? 1207 01:00:45,960 --> 01:00:49,840 Speaker 1: The show was sponsored by your sweet sexy ass. If 1208 01:00:49,880 --> 01:00:53,320 Speaker 1: you support our Patreon, you'll get one long, hard extra 1209 01:00:53,400 --> 01:00:58,600 Speaker 1: bonus episode every week. I'm talking three juicy stories right 1210 01:00:58,640 --> 01:01:02,240 Speaker 1: into those year holes you get add free episodes. I'm 1211 01:01:02,280 --> 01:01:07,520 Speaker 1: talking all of those ads completely off, all naturalrow not 1212 01:01:07,680 --> 01:01:10,840 Speaker 1: to mention, we'll do it together live in front of 1213 01:01:10,920 --> 01:01:13,760 Speaker 1: a camera with assholes anonymous. You'll get a chance to 1214 01:01:13,800 --> 01:01:16,280 Speaker 1: talk to us directly and maybe be featured on the 1215 01:01:16,320 --> 01:01:19,000 Speaker 1: YouTube channel Wait savee. Not like that. Like the fans 1216 01:01:19,040 --> 01:01:21,280 Speaker 1: get to share their stories with us and other fans, 1217 01:01:21,320 --> 01:01:23,080 Speaker 1: and we get to talk about it right and then 1218 01:01:23,280 --> 01:01:26,200 Speaker 1: moon each other at the end. Oh God, So if 1219 01:01:26,240 --> 01:01:29,720 Speaker 1: you want all that axe ass, support your boys at 1220 01:01:29,760 --> 01:01:33,400 Speaker 1: patreon dot com slash okop show. That's patreon dot com 1221 01:01:33,400 --> 01:01:34,840 Speaker 1: slash okop show. 1222 01:01:35,040 --> 01:01:37,560 Speaker 2: I just don't know what to do. I'm scared and angry. 1223 01:01:37,640 --> 01:01:39,680 Speaker 2: It was that pointed in myself for not recognizing the 1224 01:01:39,680 --> 01:01:43,280 Speaker 2: situation earlier. Feel like I'm stuck between the sword and 1225 01:01:43,320 --> 01:01:45,880 Speaker 2: the wall. Last thing I want to do is hurt him, 1226 01:01:45,920 --> 01:01:47,440 Speaker 2: But I also don't want to lie to him. How 1227 01:01:47,480 --> 01:01:50,040 Speaker 2: should I go in about this with him? I've already 1228 01:01:50,080 --> 01:01:52,520 Speaker 2: sent him a message to meet after practice, he said guests, 1229 01:01:52,520 --> 01:01:54,280 Speaker 2: So I'll have to talk to him soon and there 1230 01:01:54,320 --> 01:01:54,920 Speaker 2: is an update. 1231 01:01:54,960 --> 01:01:59,720 Speaker 1: But John, what should OP do? Like totally shut it 1232 01:01:59,760 --> 01:02:02,439 Speaker 1: down because all of the things happened the first time 1233 01:02:02,520 --> 01:02:05,000 Speaker 1: this day? Have to shut it down. I think what 1234 01:02:05,040 --> 01:02:07,720 Speaker 1: he might be doing is lying to himself and convincing 1235 01:02:07,800 --> 01:02:10,080 Speaker 1: himself that I will accept. Let's see what happens. I 1236 01:02:10,120 --> 01:02:12,080 Speaker 1: decided that we should meet up in a public space 1237 01:02:12,160 --> 01:02:14,320 Speaker 1: before his practice. I sent him a text and asked 1238 01:02:14,320 --> 01:02:16,040 Speaker 1: if you wanted to meet up at a coffee shop 1239 01:02:16,080 --> 01:02:18,320 Speaker 1: we both know. He called and said yes, and you 1240 01:02:18,480 --> 01:02:21,280 Speaker 1: sound serious? Should I be worried, to which I said, honestly, 1241 01:02:21,600 --> 01:02:24,480 Speaker 1: yes you should. Ooh. He told me to stop joking 1242 01:02:24,520 --> 01:02:26,040 Speaker 1: and went on to his practice. Today. 1243 01:02:26,160 --> 01:02:28,240 Speaker 2: Fast forward a couple hours, I'm sitting there and he 1244 01:02:28,240 --> 01:02:30,400 Speaker 2: comes in, Are you really okay? You didn't seem good 1245 01:02:30,400 --> 01:02:32,560 Speaker 2: a while ago, and from what you said, I'm actually 1246 01:02:32,640 --> 01:02:35,200 Speaker 2: worried now. So I laid out on him. I asked 1247 01:02:35,280 --> 01:02:37,880 Speaker 2: him why he thinks we're dating, and why does everyone 1248 01:02:37,920 --> 01:02:40,080 Speaker 2: else too, and what led him. 1249 01:02:39,920 --> 01:02:42,160 Speaker 1: To thinking that. Now he's just quiet and I'm just 1250 01:02:42,240 --> 01:02:43,800 Speaker 1: looking at him, not saying anything. 1251 01:02:43,840 --> 01:02:46,240 Speaker 2: Stuffed after. This is a bit fuzzy because I just 1252 01:02:46,240 --> 01:02:48,720 Speaker 2: wanted to cry. This came very out of the blue 1253 01:02:48,760 --> 01:02:51,240 Speaker 2: for me as well. It's just effing weird looking back 1254 01:02:51,280 --> 01:02:53,520 Speaker 2: at it. He said something like, I didn't really think 1255 01:02:53,560 --> 01:02:56,160 Speaker 2: we could actually date if I asked you up front, 1256 01:02:56,360 --> 01:02:59,120 Speaker 2: so he knew, to which I said, that's our relationships 1257 01:02:59,280 --> 01:03:02,720 Speaker 2: usually work you ask to which led him on a 1258 01:03:02,760 --> 01:03:05,439 Speaker 2: tangent about women in general. What I saw in front 1259 01:03:05,480 --> 01:03:07,480 Speaker 2: of me was no longer my best friend of five years. 1260 01:03:07,480 --> 01:03:09,240 Speaker 2: It was a boy who grew up to be a 1261 01:03:09,280 --> 01:03:12,480 Speaker 2: man and to have a very damaging idea of women. 1262 01:03:12,600 --> 01:03:15,000 Speaker 2: I just interrupted him and asked what led him to 1263 01:03:15,040 --> 01:03:17,360 Speaker 2: think about women this way. He was quiet for a while, 1264 01:03:17,440 --> 01:03:20,000 Speaker 2: and that did give me some pity until he opened 1265 01:03:20,000 --> 01:03:23,360 Speaker 2: that mouth of his again and said, you know, there's 1266 01:03:23,440 --> 01:03:28,240 Speaker 2: these podcasts no that let me know everything I needed to. 1267 01:03:28,560 --> 01:03:31,600 Speaker 1: Oh, so you're a little Tate fanboy. Now he starts 1268 01:03:31,720 --> 01:03:34,120 Speaker 1: arguing and yelling. To be honest, I'm not really listening 1269 01:03:34,160 --> 01:03:35,480 Speaker 1: to him at this point. I just want to get 1270 01:03:35,480 --> 01:03:38,440 Speaker 1: out of there and cry. I'm listening, but nothing is registering. 1271 01:03:38,520 --> 01:03:40,800 Speaker 1: Some of the milder things he started yelling are about 1272 01:03:40,800 --> 01:03:43,280 Speaker 1: women in our relationship with food, and how we should 1273 01:03:43,280 --> 01:03:45,680 Speaker 1: have a limited amount, how we're so vulnerable and emotional, 1274 01:03:45,840 --> 01:03:48,400 Speaker 1: ready to blame men for everything, and how we start 1275 01:03:48,480 --> 01:03:52,080 Speaker 1: yelling at every minute inconvenience, which is funny in hindsights, 1276 01:03:52,120 --> 01:03:54,960 Speaker 1: how menstrual stuff was a hoax, and that I was 1277 01:03:55,040 --> 01:03:57,600 Speaker 1: no doubt lying when I couldn't walk from my period 1278 01:03:57,680 --> 01:04:00,880 Speaker 1: pains because I wanted his attention, and that no girl 1279 01:04:00,960 --> 01:04:04,320 Speaker 1: can possibly feel a greater pain than that of a man. 1280 01:04:04,440 --> 01:04:06,880 Speaker 1: He also said that when we were talking about his 1281 01:04:07,000 --> 01:04:08,960 Speaker 1: course something to do with car parts, it was not 1282 01:04:09,080 --> 01:04:12,000 Speaker 1: cute and sweet of me, let alone women in general 1283 01:04:12,160 --> 01:04:14,760 Speaker 1: to act dumb and pretend I'm clueless, because that does 1284 01:04:14,800 --> 01:04:17,640 Speaker 1: not make me more appealing. I generally don't know how 1285 01:04:17,680 --> 01:04:18,360 Speaker 1: a car works. 1286 01:04:18,440 --> 01:04:20,360 Speaker 2: My effing back. I tell him that if this is 1287 01:04:20,360 --> 01:04:23,120 Speaker 2: all a big joke, it's not funny. He interrupts me 1288 01:04:23,240 --> 01:04:25,200 Speaker 2: and talks about how he listens to these men but 1289 01:04:25,280 --> 01:04:27,840 Speaker 2: doesn't tell anyone because he knows I and our friends 1290 01:04:27,840 --> 01:04:32,080 Speaker 2: wouldn't agree. Tells me I'm not a perfect woman, whatever 1291 01:04:32,120 --> 01:04:34,400 Speaker 2: that means, but he would still like to date me, 1292 01:04:34,600 --> 01:04:37,360 Speaker 2: but couldn't tell me because I'd say no and ruin 1293 01:04:37,480 --> 01:04:40,040 Speaker 2: his fantasy. Bro, you know, the best way to get 1294 01:04:40,040 --> 01:04:41,560 Speaker 2: a girl to date you is to go on a 1295 01:04:41,640 --> 01:04:42,320 Speaker 2: sexist tyring. 1296 01:04:42,400 --> 01:04:46,280 Speaker 1: Wow, it works every time, you know? All right? I'm kidding, 1297 01:04:46,280 --> 01:04:48,240 Speaker 1: by the way, because it's a terrible way to approach it. 1298 01:04:48,280 --> 01:04:50,440 Speaker 1: I'm crying now and people are noticing, so I just 1299 01:04:50,440 --> 01:04:52,400 Speaker 1: want to get out of there immediately. I tell them, 1300 01:04:52,440 --> 01:04:55,960 Speaker 1: not verbatim, but along the lines of you're so effing stupid. 1301 01:04:56,200 --> 01:04:59,080 Speaker 1: You genuinely could have dated me if only you had 1302 01:04:59,160 --> 01:05:03,560 Speaker 1: asked everything, But you started listening to opinions of guys 1303 01:05:03,560 --> 01:05:05,960 Speaker 1: who have nothing. How sad can you be to pull 1304 01:05:06,000 --> 01:05:09,040 Speaker 1: a stunt like this? Instead of asking like a normal person, 1305 01:05:09,120 --> 01:05:11,200 Speaker 1: he starts yelling that I'm wrong and they know what 1306 01:05:11,360 --> 01:05:13,520 Speaker 1: is right, starting a whole rant that I don't have 1307 01:05:13,640 --> 01:05:16,360 Speaker 1: the strength to listen to him. I stand out, start 1308 01:05:16,360 --> 01:05:18,960 Speaker 1: walking and he grabs my arm. More people are staring. 1309 01:05:19,000 --> 01:05:20,880 Speaker 1: I tell him to let go, and he only does 1310 01:05:20,920 --> 01:05:22,919 Speaker 1: when I threatened to call the police. I left, telling 1311 01:05:23,000 --> 01:05:25,360 Speaker 1: him to never speak to me again. I am now home. 1312 01:05:25,520 --> 01:05:28,360 Speaker 1: I blocked him on everything and told some friends what happened. 1313 01:05:28,400 --> 01:05:30,800 Speaker 1: They were all shocked by how he acted and what 1314 01:05:30,880 --> 01:05:33,240 Speaker 1: he said. One guy did tell me he was always 1315 01:05:33,280 --> 01:05:34,480 Speaker 1: easy to influence, though. 1316 01:05:34,560 --> 01:05:36,680 Speaker 2: I asked why they thought we were dating, and they 1317 01:05:36,720 --> 01:05:39,080 Speaker 2: told me it was how we acted like a couple. 1318 01:05:39,120 --> 01:05:40,880 Speaker 2: I guess that one is on me, combined with the 1319 01:05:40,880 --> 01:05:43,520 Speaker 2: fact that he told them yes when they asked, and 1320 01:05:43,560 --> 01:05:46,320 Speaker 2: since the behavior checked out, they just never thought to 1321 01:05:46,400 --> 01:05:49,480 Speaker 2: talk about it with me. So that is that I 1322 01:05:49,480 --> 01:05:51,600 Speaker 2: thought I had a nice friend by my side, but 1323 01:05:51,720 --> 01:05:54,240 Speaker 2: guess not. Never trust a guy, even if you grew 1324 01:05:54,320 --> 01:05:57,280 Speaker 2: up with him, they'll disappoint you eventually. Hope he don't 1325 01:05:57,280 --> 01:06:00,720 Speaker 2: get too jaded, but this dude does sound like Wow, 1326 01:06:00,880 --> 01:06:03,080 Speaker 2: I don't know how this dude is still thinking the 1327 01:06:03,120 --> 01:06:06,920 Speaker 2: Tait method is working when it literally is not working 1328 01:06:06,960 --> 01:06:08,040 Speaker 2: in front of his eyes. 1329 01:06:07,880 --> 01:06:09,600 Speaker 1: Even if he wanted to be a little a little 1330 01:06:09,640 --> 01:06:12,280 Speaker 1: cutesy with it and be something like, hey, like, I 1331 01:06:12,320 --> 01:06:15,320 Speaker 1: want to celebrate our anniversary. We met a year ago, 1332 01:06:15,480 --> 01:06:17,360 Speaker 1: and yeah, I've been working up the nerve like I 1333 01:06:17,360 --> 01:06:19,600 Speaker 1: would love to take you out to dinner or I 1334 01:06:19,640 --> 01:06:23,040 Speaker 1: don't know. They're like, that's so cute. I love that, 1335 01:06:23,120 --> 01:06:25,160 Speaker 1: I love you could be cute about it. But he 1336 01:06:25,360 --> 01:06:29,080 Speaker 1: just went about the completely wrong opposite way. 1337 01:06:29,480 --> 01:06:31,760 Speaker 2: I can't believe it didn't come out earlier. I just 1338 01:06:32,000 --> 01:06:34,480 Speaker 2: rage quit my job of five years. 1339 01:06:34,560 --> 01:06:37,520 Speaker 1: Now. The company's failing and begging me to come back. 1340 01:06:37,680 --> 01:06:40,400 Speaker 1: I said no and twisted the knife. 1341 01:06:40,480 --> 01:06:43,040 Speaker 2: Am I tole a'm bit of backstory. I have worked 1342 01:06:43,040 --> 01:06:45,560 Speaker 2: at this very small, less than fifty people company for 1343 01:06:45,600 --> 01:06:48,920 Speaker 2: about five years. I was brought on as an assistant, 1344 01:06:48,960 --> 01:06:51,280 Speaker 2: and within three years I worked my way up to 1345 01:06:51,360 --> 01:06:53,560 Speaker 2: one of the heads of the departments. 1346 01:06:53,040 --> 01:06:56,200 Speaker 1: Big head honcho over here. My job is a niece 1347 01:06:56,480 --> 01:06:59,640 Speaker 1: within a niece, so I was able to train myself 1348 01:06:59,720 --> 01:07:05,120 Speaker 1: in a very industry specific knowledge niche industry. When anyone 1349 01:07:05,360 --> 01:07:09,080 Speaker 1: explains their job on Reddit, they're super vague and they 1350 01:07:09,120 --> 01:07:13,040 Speaker 1: just say niche industry. My company has its problems. 1351 01:07:13,160 --> 01:07:15,800 Speaker 2: Many of the higher ups are toxic, resort to bullying, 1352 01:07:16,000 --> 01:07:19,160 Speaker 2: and overall can be But I put up with it 1353 01:07:19,320 --> 01:07:22,680 Speaker 2: because I was learning very valuable skills and I truly 1354 01:07:22,800 --> 01:07:26,040 Speaker 2: am passionate about what I do in the industry. 1355 01:07:26,560 --> 01:07:27,800 Speaker 1: Niche industry with. 1356 01:07:27,880 --> 01:07:31,760 Speaker 2: A pandemic struck. My work refused to let people work 1357 01:07:31,760 --> 01:07:34,240 Speaker 2: from home. One person walked out, and I was so 1358 01:07:34,400 --> 01:07:37,080 Speaker 2: scared I started to have a panic attack. I live 1359 01:07:37,160 --> 01:07:40,040 Speaker 2: with someone who was high risk, so I was terrified 1360 01:07:40,080 --> 01:07:41,760 Speaker 2: I was going to give it to them. I had 1361 01:07:41,800 --> 01:07:44,000 Speaker 2: to threaten to quit before. 1362 01:07:43,640 --> 01:07:45,240 Speaker 1: They let me work from home. 1363 01:07:45,360 --> 01:07:50,120 Speaker 2: They finally relent it, and guess what, my productivity skyrocketed. 1364 01:07:50,200 --> 01:07:52,680 Speaker 2: I increased our winning rate by twenty three percent since 1365 01:07:52,720 --> 01:07:55,120 Speaker 2: the beginning of twenty twenty alone. It has been better 1366 01:07:55,160 --> 01:07:57,080 Speaker 2: for my mental health to be away from the bullies 1367 01:07:57,280 --> 01:08:00,200 Speaker 2: and I can focus easier. It also improved my health. 1368 01:08:00,440 --> 01:08:03,840 Speaker 2: I lost thirty pounds without even trying. My carpool tunnel 1369 01:08:04,000 --> 01:08:07,360 Speaker 2: practically disappeared. So it sounds like literally everything is better 1370 01:08:07,680 --> 01:08:10,600 Speaker 2: because they work from home. Last week, I was offered 1371 01:08:10,600 --> 01:08:14,240 Speaker 2: a job for a similar role in a bigger competing company. 1372 01:08:14,360 --> 01:08:17,200 Speaker 2: They were offering me a twenty three thousand dollars a 1373 01:08:17,280 --> 01:08:21,040 Speaker 2: year increase in salary and a fully remote position. And 1374 01:08:21,080 --> 01:08:23,479 Speaker 2: I was on the fence because despite more money, it 1375 01:08:23,600 --> 01:08:25,200 Speaker 2: was hard to let go of a place that I 1376 01:08:25,240 --> 01:08:28,560 Speaker 2: spent so much time and so much professional development on. 1377 01:08:28,800 --> 01:08:32,000 Speaker 2: I also was worried about several of my coworkers. 1378 01:08:31,520 --> 01:08:33,000 Speaker 1: The ones who aren't bullied. 1379 01:08:33,080 --> 01:08:37,280 Speaker 2: I mean, but that twenty three koh like you can 1380 01:08:37,360 --> 01:08:40,679 Speaker 2: still be friends with these people outside work. On Monday morning, 1381 01:08:40,720 --> 01:08:43,160 Speaker 2: I go to one of my higher ups with my dilemma. 1382 01:08:43,280 --> 01:08:47,080 Speaker 2: She was so supportive, immediately congratulating me and said, I'm 1383 01:08:47,120 --> 01:08:49,519 Speaker 2: going to talk to the CEO tomorrow. I'll tell him 1384 01:08:49,560 --> 01:08:53,040 Speaker 2: your situation so he has the opportunity to counter offer you, 1385 01:08:53,200 --> 01:08:55,760 Speaker 2: which is great, that's super scolar. I told her it 1386 01:08:55,800 --> 01:08:59,120 Speaker 2: wasn't really the money, it was also the remote work policy. 1387 01:08:59,240 --> 01:09:01,640 Speaker 2: Said hey, I get a call the higher up and 1388 01:09:01,720 --> 01:09:04,479 Speaker 2: this is how our conversation went. 1389 01:09:04,920 --> 01:09:08,479 Speaker 1: Her. The CEO is willing to raise your salary, but 1390 01:09:08,600 --> 01:09:11,759 Speaker 1: first he wants to negotiate you coming back into the office. 1391 01:09:11,880 --> 01:09:16,000 Speaker 2: Me, What doesn't he realize this other position is fully remote? 1392 01:09:16,160 --> 01:09:16,479 Speaker 1: Her? 1393 01:09:16,640 --> 01:09:19,479 Speaker 2: Yes, but he says the company has been generous with 1394 01:09:19,600 --> 01:09:22,800 Speaker 2: working with you on being remote, and now you really 1395 01:09:22,880 --> 01:09:26,720 Speaker 2: need a doctor's note to remain such generous. There was 1396 01:09:26,760 --> 01:09:30,240 Speaker 2: a global pandemic. It wasn't some sort of favor to me. 1397 01:09:30,439 --> 01:09:33,080 Speaker 2: It was what the company had to do because of 1398 01:09:33,120 --> 01:09:36,080 Speaker 2: the VID. I'm glad they finally did it, but I 1399 01:09:36,120 --> 01:09:39,160 Speaker 2: had to beg because I was so scared I was 1400 01:09:39,200 --> 01:09:41,000 Speaker 2: going to unlive my partner. 1401 01:09:41,160 --> 01:09:46,320 Speaker 1: Her. Yes, but some people remained in office this whole time. Me, 1402 01:09:46,600 --> 01:09:49,240 Speaker 1: that's not my freaking problem. They were not taking it seriously, 1403 01:09:49,520 --> 01:09:52,639 Speaker 1: and there were no rules implemented by the company regarding masks, 1404 01:09:52,680 --> 01:09:56,280 Speaker 1: social distancing, etc. Them staying in the office made me 1405 01:09:56,320 --> 01:09:59,120 Speaker 1: realize I had to remain staying at home because I 1406 01:09:59,200 --> 01:10:02,519 Speaker 1: knew they weren't being saved Her. That's why he says 1407 01:10:02,560 --> 01:10:05,479 Speaker 1: it's generous. He has let you stay home for so long. Me. 1408 01:10:05,760 --> 01:10:08,000 Speaker 2: I also prove it. I am more effective in a 1409 01:10:08,040 --> 01:10:11,000 Speaker 2: remote position. It has been a net positive for the 1410 01:10:11,080 --> 01:10:15,639 Speaker 2: company as a whole. Her, I understood me, I don't 1411 01:10:15,680 --> 01:10:17,120 Speaker 2: care if you give me a salary increase. 1412 01:10:17,320 --> 01:10:21,439 Speaker 1: This is about r esb CD respect baby, Huh. 1413 01:10:21,760 --> 01:10:23,720 Speaker 2: I was on the fence about this new position, but 1414 01:10:23,800 --> 01:10:26,759 Speaker 2: now I see that I have to take it. Consider 1415 01:10:26,840 --> 01:10:31,000 Speaker 2: this my official notice I quit. I just signed the 1416 01:10:31,000 --> 01:10:34,120 Speaker 2: contract with a new company. Thanks for making it easy 1417 01:10:34,160 --> 01:10:37,639 Speaker 2: on me old company. And there is an update, John, 1418 01:10:37,800 --> 01:10:40,320 Speaker 2: there is an update. But I want to get your 1419 01:10:40,400 --> 01:10:43,439 Speaker 2: feel do you think OP should quit? What do you 1420 01:10:43,520 --> 01:10:46,679 Speaker 2: think is like the minimum necessary for OP to quit 1421 01:10:46,760 --> 01:10:47,880 Speaker 2: in this In this. 1422 01:10:47,880 --> 01:10:51,360 Speaker 1: Case, Man, I mean for OP definitely beat the twenty 1423 01:10:51,400 --> 01:10:54,040 Speaker 1: three k, because it's like, I feel like OP has 1424 01:10:54,120 --> 01:10:56,240 Speaker 1: gone through a lot of like headaches. So that's another 1425 01:10:56,280 --> 01:10:58,240 Speaker 1: thing opstra way of like, do I want to kind 1426 01:10:58,240 --> 01:11:01,120 Speaker 1: of continue to deal with like potential headaches from his 1427 01:11:01,200 --> 01:11:03,120 Speaker 1: people in the future because they'd given me so many 1428 01:11:03,120 --> 01:11:03,599 Speaker 1: in the past. 1429 01:11:03,680 --> 01:11:05,559 Speaker 2: I got another phone call the next day from my 1430 01:11:05,640 --> 01:11:07,639 Speaker 2: previous employer, asking if. 1431 01:11:07,479 --> 01:11:09,920 Speaker 1: I had decided on what I'm doing. 1432 01:11:10,040 --> 01:11:12,559 Speaker 2: I reiterated that I told you the first time I quit, 1433 01:11:12,760 --> 01:11:15,040 Speaker 2: and they pulled out a full guilt trip on. 1434 01:11:15,160 --> 01:11:17,519 Speaker 1: How I can't leave them high and dry. 1435 01:11:17,760 --> 01:11:20,320 Speaker 2: I hung up again, but decided ultimately to finish out 1436 01:11:20,360 --> 01:11:22,320 Speaker 2: the two weeks since I could use a paycheck. The 1437 01:11:22,400 --> 01:11:25,839 Speaker 2: two weeks were wild. They kept acting like I wasn't leaving. 1438 01:11:26,000 --> 01:11:29,240 Speaker 2: They kept assigning me to projects that I couldn't possibly finish, 1439 01:11:29,360 --> 01:11:31,760 Speaker 2: and every time I brought up my departure. They'd talk 1440 01:11:31,880 --> 01:11:34,800 Speaker 2: over me or ignore me whatever. I kept telling myself 1441 01:11:34,840 --> 01:11:36,880 Speaker 2: it wasn't my problem. So I decided just to half 1442 01:11:36,920 --> 01:11:39,679 Speaker 2: ass everything until my time was up and I would 1443 01:11:39,720 --> 01:11:42,240 Speaker 2: get my last paycheck. On my last day, I went 1444 01:11:42,280 --> 01:11:45,040 Speaker 2: to turn in my computer and everyone in the office 1445 01:11:45,120 --> 01:11:47,599 Speaker 2: kept asking me to do more work. I kept telling 1446 01:11:47,640 --> 01:11:51,879 Speaker 2: them it's my last day, I am leaving. My computer 1447 01:11:52,120 --> 01:11:56,120 Speaker 2: is being turned in, I can't possibly work further. One 1448 01:11:56,160 --> 01:11:59,559 Speaker 2: of the execs got teary and kept wailing about but 1449 01:11:59,720 --> 01:12:02,839 Speaker 2: who who is going to do all this? I shrugged 1450 01:12:02,840 --> 01:12:05,400 Speaker 2: and said, you guys had two weeks to figure that out. 1451 01:12:05,439 --> 01:12:09,440 Speaker 2: And this was generous of me, loopt it on them. Oh, 1452 01:12:09,840 --> 01:12:11,920 Speaker 2: the CEO ran out of the back door as soon 1453 01:12:11,960 --> 01:12:14,240 Speaker 2: as he heard me come in through the front door 1454 01:12:14,479 --> 01:12:17,240 Speaker 2: so he wouldn't have to say goodbye. He continued texting 1455 01:12:17,280 --> 01:12:19,719 Speaker 2: me to do work throughout the day, so I ended 1456 01:12:19,800 --> 01:12:22,120 Speaker 2: up blocking his number. And about the new job. I 1457 01:12:22,160 --> 01:12:24,600 Speaker 2: started the new job and it's been a dream. The 1458 01:12:24,720 --> 01:12:27,280 Speaker 2: pay and benefits are so much better. There isn't a 1459 01:12:27,320 --> 01:12:30,479 Speaker 2: bullying problem here, and it's almost like the blinders were 1460 01:12:30,560 --> 01:12:33,200 Speaker 2: pulled off of me. I didn't realize how abusive my 1461 01:12:33,280 --> 01:12:35,719 Speaker 2: old workplace was. Until I was working with a team 1462 01:12:35,880 --> 01:12:39,320 Speaker 2: of actually nice people for months, I'd react like a 1463 01:12:39,360 --> 01:12:42,880 Speaker 2: battered housewife. Every time I'd make a mistake, I'd be 1464 01:12:42,960 --> 01:12:45,920 Speaker 2: on the brink of tears and overly apologetic. But everyone 1465 01:12:45,960 --> 01:12:48,520 Speaker 2: here has been nothing but kind and supportive and understanding. 1466 01:12:48,640 --> 01:12:51,000 Speaker 2: Of course, there's always room for improvement, but it's like 1467 01:12:51,160 --> 01:12:54,120 Speaker 2: night and day better. Meanwhile, every few weeks, I'd get 1468 01:12:54,160 --> 01:12:56,559 Speaker 2: a phone call from my old company. Here are some 1469 01:12:56,600 --> 01:12:58,760 Speaker 2: of the highlights of what they have asked slash what 1470 01:12:58,840 --> 01:13:00,960 Speaker 2: has happened? None of this paper work is getting done, 1471 01:13:01,000 --> 01:13:02,560 Speaker 2: and no one knows how to do it. If I 1472 01:13:02,600 --> 01:13:04,840 Speaker 2: don't tell them, they will lose money. Guess what, not 1473 01:13:04,960 --> 01:13:07,680 Speaker 2: my problem? Come on, Will I come back if they 1474 01:13:07,760 --> 01:13:08,800 Speaker 2: hire me an assistant? 1475 01:13:09,000 --> 01:13:09,120 Speaker 1: No? 1476 01:13:09,400 --> 01:13:11,479 Speaker 2: Will I come back if they hire me an assistant 1477 01:13:11,520 --> 01:13:14,120 Speaker 2: and match my pay No? And you're supposed to give 1478 01:13:14,160 --> 01:13:17,080 Speaker 2: a counter offer before someone leaves for a new job, 1479 01:13:17,200 --> 01:13:20,719 Speaker 2: not months afterwards. Now my old position has been split 1480 01:13:20,760 --> 01:13:24,240 Speaker 2: into two positions and has two different job postings because 1481 01:13:24,280 --> 01:13:26,120 Speaker 2: they can't find anyone. 1482 01:13:25,880 --> 01:13:28,679 Speaker 1: Who can do all of it. Loll not my problem. 1483 01:13:28,720 --> 01:13:31,160 Speaker 2: We hired someone for one of the positions but they 1484 01:13:31,360 --> 01:13:34,400 Speaker 2: quit on the spot and walked out after four days. 1485 01:13:34,560 --> 01:13:37,280 Speaker 2: Loll good for them. They sent me a contract to 1486 01:13:37,280 --> 01:13:39,760 Speaker 2: be an on call consultant for them, like they didn't 1487 01:13:39,800 --> 01:13:42,280 Speaker 2: even ask. They just sent it to my email with 1488 01:13:42,360 --> 01:13:45,519 Speaker 2: the email body saying please sign and return as soon 1489 01:13:45,600 --> 01:13:46,439 Speaker 2: as possible. 1490 01:13:46,600 --> 01:13:47,559 Speaker 1: I already have a job. 1491 01:13:47,800 --> 01:13:50,800 Speaker 2: Wo Now my old position has been split into three 1492 01:13:50,800 --> 01:13:54,439 Speaker 2: different positions with three job postings. My absence has made 1493 01:13:54,439 --> 01:13:57,000 Speaker 2: one of my former coworkers so stressed that she's now 1494 01:13:57,040 --> 01:13:59,400 Speaker 2: in the hospital, and they said I should be ashamed 1495 01:13:59,439 --> 01:14:01,559 Speaker 2: of myself to not come back and help her. 1496 01:14:01,600 --> 01:14:04,479 Speaker 1: It's not me overworking here to death, it's this company. 1497 01:14:04,680 --> 01:14:08,160 Speaker 2: Now my old position has split into four positions. That's right, 1498 01:14:08,320 --> 01:14:11,599 Speaker 2: fing four different positions with four different job postings. Will 1499 01:14:11,600 --> 01:14:13,760 Speaker 2: I come back if they literally offer me double the 1500 01:14:13,800 --> 01:14:16,799 Speaker 2: money with an assistant? I was so glad they asked. 1501 01:14:16,840 --> 01:14:18,960 Speaker 2: I got to tell them straight up, there are some 1502 01:14:19,080 --> 01:14:22,120 Speaker 2: things money can't buy, and I didn't quit over money, 1503 01:14:22,200 --> 01:14:25,160 Speaker 2: so you can't get me back with money. We are 1504 01:14:25,200 --> 01:14:27,839 Speaker 2: losing tons of money and may have to do layoffs 1505 01:14:27,840 --> 01:14:30,160 Speaker 2: soon if you don't come back, Sorry, but f you. 1506 01:14:30,760 --> 01:14:33,719 Speaker 2: Moral of the story, never accept the counter and don't 1507 01:14:33,720 --> 01:14:35,120 Speaker 2: put up with BS. 1508 01:14:35,400 --> 01:14:40,360 Speaker 1: Wow. Oh such a satisfying ending. Man. I know OP 1509 01:14:40,560 --> 01:14:43,080 Speaker 1: really stuck it to them. It sounds like Op was. 1510 01:14:43,120 --> 01:14:45,840 Speaker 2: Literally the whole company, Like they took Op out and 1511 01:14:45,880 --> 01:14:47,400 Speaker 2: then everything fell tosh. 1512 01:14:47,720 --> 01:14:50,760 Speaker 1: Over something as dumb as like them wanting people in person, 1513 01:14:50,840 --> 01:14:52,840 Speaker 1: and you know that it's just a stupid thing that 1514 01:14:52,880 --> 01:14:54,759 Speaker 1: they want because they're dummies. 1515 01:14:55,000 --> 01:14:58,200 Speaker 2: My mom's been twenty five thousand dollars on a fortune 1516 01:14:58,240 --> 01:15:02,720 Speaker 2: teller to find love, So dinner, No what am I 1517 01:15:02,800 --> 01:15:05,920 Speaker 2: the a hole? This might be a bit messy because 1518 01:15:05,960 --> 01:15:08,920 Speaker 2: my brain is still in shambles from what I just learned. 1519 01:15:08,960 --> 01:15:11,400 Speaker 1: But I'm trying to just make this all understandable. We're 1520 01:15:11,439 --> 01:15:13,320 Speaker 1: off to a great start. You always know what's good 1521 01:15:13,320 --> 01:15:14,040 Speaker 1: when it starts like that. 1522 01:15:14,240 --> 01:15:17,360 Speaker 2: So three years ago, my twenty one female mom forty 1523 01:15:17,400 --> 01:15:19,880 Speaker 2: seven male split from my dad thirty three male. 1524 01:15:20,000 --> 01:15:20,559 Speaker 1: Good decision. 1525 01:15:20,640 --> 01:15:24,280 Speaker 2: Really, Me and my siblings, who are seventeen gender fluid 1526 01:15:24,360 --> 01:15:27,519 Speaker 2: and fourteen male, were honestly relieved to have him out 1527 01:15:27,560 --> 01:15:29,760 Speaker 2: of the house for a variety of reasons that are 1528 01:15:29,800 --> 01:15:32,120 Speaker 2: not essential to the story. Around that time, our mom 1529 01:15:32,200 --> 01:15:34,439 Speaker 2: told me and my older sibling that she had been 1530 01:15:34,520 --> 01:15:36,519 Speaker 2: in love with a teacher from the crew that I 1531 01:15:36,560 --> 01:15:40,120 Speaker 2: went to and my siblings still attend for nine years 1532 01:15:40,320 --> 01:15:43,960 Speaker 2: twelve by now. We will call him g G because 1533 01:15:43,960 --> 01:15:47,320 Speaker 2: he knows how to hit that G spot. Oh goodness, honestly, 1534 01:15:47,720 --> 01:15:50,280 Speaker 2: he's great. Both me and my sibling encouraged her and 1535 01:15:50,360 --> 01:15:53,880 Speaker 2: pursuing a new relationship, and they actually started writing emails 1536 01:15:53,920 --> 01:15:54,639 Speaker 2: back and forth. 1537 01:15:54,720 --> 01:15:55,280 Speaker 1: That's cute. 1538 01:15:55,320 --> 01:15:58,320 Speaker 2: That's so cute, old people writing emails to each other. 1539 01:15:58,479 --> 01:16:00,719 Speaker 2: It went semi well for a while, but she started 1540 01:16:00,760 --> 01:16:02,840 Speaker 2: to become impatient. I don't even know how else to 1541 01:16:02,840 --> 01:16:05,320 Speaker 2: describe it, but to me and my sibling it felt 1542 01:16:05,360 --> 01:16:08,320 Speaker 2: like a descent into a legit madness. She is sort 1543 01:16:08,360 --> 01:16:10,439 Speaker 2: of a compulsive liar, and over the course of a year, 1544 01:16:10,479 --> 01:16:13,400 Speaker 2: she started to come up with more and more outrageous 1545 01:16:13,520 --> 01:16:16,760 Speaker 2: white lives and plans in order to get close to G. 1546 01:16:17,000 --> 01:16:19,320 Speaker 2: It was the only thing she could talk about. Girl 1547 01:16:19,360 --> 01:16:21,240 Speaker 2: needs a hobby. I didn't mind it in the beginning, 1548 01:16:21,280 --> 01:16:24,320 Speaker 2: and I tried to be supportive, but her entire mood 1549 01:16:24,479 --> 01:16:27,800 Speaker 2: started depending on those emails. She was either sulking and 1550 01:16:27,920 --> 01:16:30,479 Speaker 2: pity parting for herself if he took a while to respond, 1551 01:16:30,640 --> 01:16:33,000 Speaker 2: or she was scheming how to get him into her life. 1552 01:16:33,040 --> 01:16:35,840 Speaker 2: The way she wants him to be red flags, red 1553 01:16:35,840 --> 01:16:38,840 Speaker 2: flag city, six flags Right here. I'm talking hours and 1554 01:16:39,080 --> 01:16:42,200 Speaker 2: hours of running the same circles with her and discussing 1555 01:16:42,240 --> 01:16:44,559 Speaker 2: nothing else until late into the night, to the point 1556 01:16:44,560 --> 01:16:46,840 Speaker 2: where me and my siblings were trying to manage all 1557 01:16:46,840 --> 01:16:50,280 Speaker 2: her emotions. It was unbearable and it started freak us out. 1558 01:16:50,320 --> 01:16:54,280 Speaker 2: We were barely recognizing our mother anymore. Gee wasn't all 1559 01:16:54,360 --> 01:16:57,439 Speaker 2: too comfortable either. Apparently, after a little over a year, 1560 01:16:57,479 --> 01:17:00,280 Speaker 2: he sent her a message that basically shot down any 1561 01:17:00,320 --> 01:17:01,160 Speaker 2: further contact. 1562 01:17:01,280 --> 01:17:02,640 Speaker 1: If I have a feeling this is not going to 1563 01:17:02,720 --> 01:17:05,559 Speaker 1: end well, Sam, I think she's going to go back. Yeah. 1564 01:17:05,640 --> 01:17:09,479 Speaker 2: The first thing I thought when I heard about it was, Oh, 1565 01:17:09,560 --> 01:17:11,439 Speaker 2: how am I going to get her to cope? It 1566 01:17:11,520 --> 01:17:14,080 Speaker 2: was then that I learned that in love is not 1567 01:17:14,320 --> 01:17:16,639 Speaker 2: the right way to describe what my mom is feeling. 1568 01:17:16,800 --> 01:17:21,000 Speaker 2: She is obsessed with this man stalker level, foaming at 1569 01:17:21,000 --> 01:17:24,920 Speaker 2: the mouth obsessed, and for months I spent every second 1570 01:17:25,000 --> 01:17:27,280 Speaker 2: that I was alone with her going over the words 1571 01:17:27,320 --> 01:17:30,720 Speaker 2: of this last goddamn email, listening to her theories and 1572 01:17:30,760 --> 01:17:34,400 Speaker 2: speculations and whatnot. It got better after a while when 1573 01:17:34,400 --> 01:17:37,240 Speaker 2: I managed to establish some boundaries, but my Mom fell 1574 01:17:37,240 --> 01:17:40,479 Speaker 2: into a borderline depression then, and I felt guilty for 1575 01:17:40,520 --> 01:17:43,880 Speaker 2: abandoning her with her feelings still, I thought she was 1576 01:17:43,920 --> 01:17:44,639 Speaker 2: getting over him. 1577 01:17:44,840 --> 01:17:48,320 Speaker 1: She thought. We always thought, why are you thinking? Stop thinking? Yes, 1578 01:17:48,520 --> 01:17:49,559 Speaker 1: turn that brain off. 1579 01:17:49,800 --> 01:17:54,120 Speaker 2: Wait a few months ago, the big change happened. Apparently 1580 01:17:54,200 --> 01:17:57,840 Speaker 2: a woman out of GE's social circle called our home 1581 01:17:58,040 --> 01:18:01,200 Speaker 2: and told her that he had feelings for her, but 1582 01:18:01,240 --> 01:18:03,599 Speaker 2: he is worried about his integrity as a teacher. 1583 01:18:03,600 --> 01:18:07,680 Speaker 1: Blah blah blah. Oh, so he's into it. 1584 01:18:07,760 --> 01:18:10,479 Speaker 2: I was shocked when she told me, because I would 1585 01:18:10,520 --> 01:18:13,880 Speaker 2: have bet on a restraining order over a confession. When 1586 01:18:13,920 --> 01:18:16,439 Speaker 2: I say it was like a shark smelling blood in 1587 01:18:16,479 --> 01:18:19,719 Speaker 2: the water, I am not exaggerating. There were the plans again, 1588 01:18:19,960 --> 01:18:23,680 Speaker 2: the theories, the obsession. She even memorized his schedule to 1589 01:18:23,760 --> 01:18:26,240 Speaker 2: run into him, and she wanted me to help. She 1590 01:18:26,400 --> 01:18:30,519 Speaker 2: semi blackmailed me, slash bribe me into an agreement, and 1591 01:18:30,560 --> 01:18:32,280 Speaker 2: then held my inaction. 1592 01:18:32,000 --> 01:18:34,599 Speaker 1: Over my head all the time, expecting me to come 1593 01:18:34,640 --> 01:18:36,800 Speaker 1: up with a perfect plan for her. She's like, Hey, 1594 01:18:36,840 --> 01:18:39,400 Speaker 1: you're a teenager, right, Get all your teenager friends and 1595 01:18:39,439 --> 01:18:41,559 Speaker 1: a Scooby new Ban together to solve the mystery of 1596 01:18:41,560 --> 01:18:44,240 Speaker 1: white doesn't love me. I think I'll solve the case. 1597 01:18:44,880 --> 01:18:46,160 Speaker 1: He just doesn't love you. 1598 01:18:46,200 --> 01:18:49,160 Speaker 2: No matter how much I tried to argue with her 1599 01:18:49,240 --> 01:18:52,120 Speaker 2: and hold her back, I could have tried stopping a 1600 01:18:52,120 --> 01:18:54,599 Speaker 2: moving train and it would have been more successful. All 1601 01:18:54,600 --> 01:18:57,000 Speaker 2: that is relevant about this, though, is that she sent 1602 01:18:57,120 --> 01:19:01,479 Speaker 2: G another lengthy email that was just God. I don't 1603 01:19:01,520 --> 01:19:04,559 Speaker 2: want to say pathetic what it was. I really want 1604 01:19:04,560 --> 01:19:07,160 Speaker 2: to read this email, me too. Release the email, release 1605 01:19:07,200 --> 01:19:09,760 Speaker 2: it today. Then my sibling tells me she saw an 1606 01:19:09,800 --> 01:19:12,920 Speaker 2: email in our mother's inbox from a woman that calls 1607 01:19:12,920 --> 01:19:16,760 Speaker 2: herself a spiritual therapist or some basically saying she is 1608 01:19:16,800 --> 01:19:19,840 Speaker 2: a media We know that because my sibling remembered her 1609 01:19:19,920 --> 01:19:22,000 Speaker 2: name and we googled it. I had such a bad 1610 01:19:22,040 --> 01:19:24,519 Speaker 2: feeling about this, but my gut was screaming at me 1611 01:19:24,640 --> 01:19:27,240 Speaker 2: like never before, so I logged into her email address 1612 01:19:27,240 --> 01:19:29,200 Speaker 2: from my phone. She once gave me her password in 1613 01:19:29,200 --> 01:19:31,400 Speaker 2: case she forgets it, and there were messages with this 1614 01:19:31,520 --> 01:19:34,400 Speaker 2: gruru lady going back all the way to when G 1615 01:19:34,680 --> 01:19:37,559 Speaker 2: dumped her. When I read those emails, I was shaking 1616 01:19:37,600 --> 01:19:41,759 Speaker 2: so hard I almost dropped my phone. Almost twenty five 1617 01:19:41,960 --> 01:19:47,240 Speaker 2: thousand dollars for this fake spit to connect with Jee's subconscious. 1618 01:19:47,400 --> 01:19:50,280 Speaker 2: She spent decades paying off her mortgage with my dad. 1619 01:19:50,400 --> 01:19:53,280 Speaker 2: She cries to us about having money issues, to the 1620 01:19:53,280 --> 01:19:56,840 Speaker 2: point where my fourteen year old brother had qualms about 1621 01:19:56,880 --> 01:20:01,599 Speaker 2: asking her for a new school backpack because he elt guilty. God, 1622 01:20:01,720 --> 01:20:03,600 Speaker 2: I am so livid just thinking about it. And the 1623 01:20:03,640 --> 01:20:07,400 Speaker 2: best part, the phone call from g's acquaintance wasn't real. 1624 01:20:07,600 --> 01:20:09,559 Speaker 2: It was what that doctor told her. 1625 01:20:10,080 --> 01:20:10,400 Speaker 1: No. 1626 01:20:11,240 --> 01:20:14,200 Speaker 2: I found literal quotes in the emails of things my 1627 01:20:14,320 --> 01:20:17,439 Speaker 2: mom told me the woman in the phone call told her, 1628 01:20:17,479 --> 01:20:20,800 Speaker 2: But it was all that money hungry scammer. On one hand, 1629 01:20:20,920 --> 01:20:23,040 Speaker 2: I am so angry at my mom for doing this. 1630 01:20:23,240 --> 01:20:25,720 Speaker 2: They also have extreme pity for her. This guru took 1631 01:20:25,760 --> 01:20:29,120 Speaker 2: advantage of a desperate, vulnerable state and is stringing. 1632 01:20:28,760 --> 01:20:31,880 Speaker 1: Her along with half wrection, costing my. 1633 01:20:31,920 --> 01:20:35,360 Speaker 2: Mom thousands of dollars. Well, my mother needs is actual 1634 01:20:35,400 --> 01:20:38,600 Speaker 2: effic therapy. I am completely at my wits end, but 1635 01:20:38,680 --> 01:20:40,760 Speaker 2: I know this can't keep going. Anyone who can give 1636 01:20:40,800 --> 01:20:43,760 Speaker 2: me advice, please please do. It feels like the floor 1637 01:20:43,960 --> 01:20:46,839 Speaker 2: just dropped out from underneath me, and I am scared 1638 01:20:46,920 --> 01:20:49,519 Speaker 2: of what will happen next to the TLDR. My mother 1639 01:20:49,640 --> 01:20:51,760 Speaker 2: is obsessed with a man and when he shot her down, 1640 01:20:51,800 --> 01:20:54,000 Speaker 2: I just found out she turned to a guru. She 1641 01:20:54,080 --> 01:20:56,240 Speaker 2: is about twenty five thousand dollars in debt on a 1642 01:20:56,280 --> 01:20:58,719 Speaker 2: minimum wage job with two. 1643 01:20:58,600 --> 01:21:01,920 Speaker 1: Kids to support. Help. So the question is what should 1644 01:21:01,960 --> 01:21:05,479 Speaker 1: Opie do? And also, have any of you ever. 1645 01:21:05,320 --> 01:21:07,880 Speaker 2: Had experiences with the clairvoyance and do you even believe 1646 01:21:07,920 --> 01:21:10,080 Speaker 2: in that? And have you ever had experiences that would 1647 01:21:10,080 --> 01:21:12,160 Speaker 2: either cause you to believe in it or cause you 1648 01:21:12,200 --> 01:21:14,120 Speaker 2: to definitively not believe in it? 1649 01:21:14,240 --> 01:21:16,400 Speaker 1: Definitely drop your supernatural stories of a life. 1650 01:21:17,200 --> 01:21:19,880 Speaker 2: Right now, Tibby tap in those comments. But John, what 1651 01:21:19,880 --> 01:21:21,439 Speaker 2: do you think, like, what should Opie do? 1652 01:21:21,920 --> 01:21:26,040 Speaker 1: I think the mom needs a specialist to be able 1653 01:21:26,120 --> 01:21:29,439 Speaker 1: to sit down and like figure out what's going on here, 1654 01:21:29,479 --> 01:21:31,600 Speaker 1: because like I have no idea where to begin on 1655 01:21:31,640 --> 01:21:35,040 Speaker 1: a diagnosis or whatever. But maybe a professional could give 1656 01:21:35,080 --> 01:21:38,760 Speaker 1: her a diagnosis and along with that, what could be 1657 01:21:38,880 --> 01:21:41,960 Speaker 1: done to help her understand and see why this is 1658 01:21:41,960 --> 01:21:43,360 Speaker 1: so insane why she shouldn't do this. 1659 01:21:43,439 --> 01:21:45,559 Speaker 2: You know what I mean is freaking insane. And what 1660 01:21:45,800 --> 01:21:49,000 Speaker 2: annoys me is like these like fake psydekicks, like they 1661 01:21:49,360 --> 01:21:53,040 Speaker 2: prey on people. But maybe there's a few clairvoyance in 1662 01:21:53,040 --> 01:21:55,519 Speaker 2: the mix that are that are actually legit. That's actually 1663 01:21:55,520 --> 01:21:58,400 Speaker 2: where I love to store some stories from the Okay gang, 1664 01:21:58,479 --> 01:22:01,240 Speaker 2: like have you had experience? And says with fake psychics, 1665 01:22:01,240 --> 01:22:03,200 Speaker 2: with real psychics, we want to know your stories. 1666 01:22:03,439 --> 01:22:06,720 Speaker 1: My friends are furious at me after I saved a 1667 01:22:06,760 --> 01:22:11,240 Speaker 1: girl's life. They're mad because of how I administered first aid. 1668 01:22:11,600 --> 01:22:14,840 Speaker 1: Am I the a hole? So this happened the other day, 1669 01:22:15,000 --> 01:22:17,880 Speaker 1: I twenty three mail was at a pool party at 1670 01:22:17,880 --> 01:22:21,839 Speaker 1: my best friend Gregg's house. There was also a slipping 1671 01:22:21,880 --> 01:22:24,960 Speaker 1: slide setup and people were using it having fun. My 1672 01:22:25,040 --> 01:22:30,160 Speaker 1: friend Amy used it and screamed a good scream, John 1673 01:22:30,200 --> 01:22:32,880 Speaker 1: good scam, good scam. The whole party turns to her 1674 01:22:33,160 --> 01:22:36,920 Speaker 1: and she's clutching her chest. There is blood pouring out 1675 01:22:36,960 --> 01:22:40,360 Speaker 1: of her hand. Oh my god. Okay. So turns out 1676 01:22:40,640 --> 01:22:43,280 Speaker 1: she had slid over a rock on the slip and 1677 01:22:43,320 --> 01:22:47,960 Speaker 1: slide and cut herself. That is oh so, I'm a 1678 01:22:48,040 --> 01:22:52,080 Speaker 1: nursing school. So I run over and ask to see 1679 01:22:52,080 --> 01:22:55,280 Speaker 1: the cut. She pulls her hand away and I see 1680 01:22:55,360 --> 01:22:58,080 Speaker 1: that it doesn't look too serious, but it definitely does 1681 01:22:58,240 --> 01:23:02,320 Speaker 1: need some attention. Yeah it does. Oh yes, it needs 1682 01:23:02,360 --> 01:23:08,280 Speaker 1: a little special attention. From you, boy. So I walk 1683 01:23:08,360 --> 01:23:10,720 Speaker 1: Amy into the house and I grab the first aid kit. 1684 01:23:10,800 --> 01:23:12,720 Speaker 1: I pause for a second and ask her if she's 1685 01:23:12,760 --> 01:23:14,840 Speaker 1: okay with me helping her with this or if she 1686 01:23:14,840 --> 01:23:18,559 Speaker 1: wants to do it herself because of where the cut is. 1687 01:23:18,840 --> 01:23:21,920 Speaker 1: If you catch my drift, where's the cut? John on 1688 01:23:22,080 --> 01:23:30,240 Speaker 1: a booby? Boy? Wow, it's the most like sophomoric episode ever, 1689 01:23:30,760 --> 01:23:35,040 Speaker 1: just like dumb dumb young bro energy, we've we've ever 1690 01:23:35,360 --> 01:23:39,639 Speaker 1: we all suited. Yeah, and she says no, I trust 1691 01:23:39,680 --> 01:23:42,160 Speaker 1: you and I want your help. So we go into 1692 01:23:42,160 --> 01:23:46,120 Speaker 1: the bathroom. Oh, you go into the bathroom. I look 1693 01:23:46,120 --> 01:23:48,920 Speaker 1: at it more closely to make sure it isn't more serious. 1694 01:23:49,200 --> 01:23:51,559 Speaker 1: I put some neosporn on it and I bandage it 1695 01:23:51,640 --> 01:23:54,360 Speaker 1: up nicely. Amy thanks me, and we go back outside. 1696 01:23:54,439 --> 01:23:56,800 Speaker 1: A couple of women come up to Amy and ask 1697 01:23:56,920 --> 01:23:59,559 Speaker 1: if she's okay, and one of them, Sarah, gives me 1698 01:23:59,560 --> 01:24:01,799 Speaker 1: a dirty look and they kind of lead her away. 1699 01:24:01,960 --> 01:24:03,840 Speaker 1: I go back to where I was sitting and Greg 1700 01:24:03,920 --> 01:24:06,639 Speaker 1: sits next to me and he says, yo, Uh, some 1701 01:24:06,680 --> 01:24:10,240 Speaker 1: people are talking some skit out here about you. What 1702 01:24:10,360 --> 01:24:12,880 Speaker 1: they talking? I did my best to defend you, but 1703 01:24:13,320 --> 01:24:16,360 Speaker 1: I figured you should know that they were talking shit 1704 01:24:16,600 --> 01:24:21,519 Speaker 1: about you helping Amy. Wait, the only guy like down 1705 01:24:21,600 --> 01:24:24,679 Speaker 1: to bandage up this lady and he's getting the shit 1706 01:24:24,800 --> 01:24:27,360 Speaker 1: what like, let her bleed out, let her die in peace? 1707 01:24:27,479 --> 01:24:29,519 Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Just let it go like Elsa. 1708 01:24:29,800 --> 01:24:33,000 Speaker 1: Let it go like Elsa. I asked him what he meant, 1709 01:24:33,200 --> 01:24:35,200 Speaker 1: and he told me that Sarah was saying that it 1710 01:24:35,280 --> 01:24:38,640 Speaker 1: was creepy how I quote sprung into action when I 1711 01:24:38,680 --> 01:24:43,080 Speaker 1: saw an opportunity to play with a boob end quote 1712 01:24:43,880 --> 01:24:47,479 Speaker 1: oh man, and a few of the other women and 1713 01:24:47,560 --> 01:24:49,920 Speaker 1: one guy agreed and they were making fun of me. 1714 01:24:50,080 --> 01:24:52,240 Speaker 1: I was pretty upset about that, but I didn't want 1715 01:24:52,240 --> 01:24:54,200 Speaker 1: to make a scene, so I just ignored it for 1716 01:24:54,280 --> 01:24:57,439 Speaker 1: the time being. Yo, that's so whack. Later that day, 1717 01:24:57,640 --> 01:25:00,200 Speaker 1: I was sitting by the fire pit and Say was 1718 01:25:00,240 --> 01:25:03,040 Speaker 1: sitting across from me, and nobody else was around the area, 1719 01:25:03,360 --> 01:25:05,920 Speaker 1: so I asked her why she was making fun of 1720 01:25:05,920 --> 01:25:09,240 Speaker 1: me for helping Amy. She said, well, I guess that 1721 01:25:09,400 --> 01:25:13,360 Speaker 1: was a little mean all of me. I'm sorry that 1722 01:25:13,479 --> 01:25:16,439 Speaker 1: I did that, but I thought it was kind of 1723 01:25:16,520 --> 01:25:19,800 Speaker 1: weird how you just saw her boob was her and 1724 01:25:19,840 --> 01:25:23,639 Speaker 1: then you ran up to her and insisted on helping. 1725 01:25:23,920 --> 01:25:26,800 Speaker 1: I know, you're in nursing school, but I think you 1726 01:25:26,800 --> 01:25:31,000 Speaker 1: should let a girl literally nursing school. Bro, he's literally 1727 01:25:31,400 --> 01:25:35,280 Speaker 1: being paid to do like this. Well, Sarah ads at 1728 01:25:35,280 --> 01:25:41,200 Speaker 1: the end, we all know first aid too. Then why 1729 01:25:41,240 --> 01:25:43,960 Speaker 1: didn't you spring into action? Huh? I thanked her for 1730 01:25:44,000 --> 01:25:47,160 Speaker 1: her apology, and I don't like confrontation, so I just said, 1731 01:25:47,320 --> 01:25:49,800 Speaker 1: all right, I guess I'll keep that in mind from 1732 01:25:49,800 --> 01:25:53,240 Speaker 1: now on. So Sam, there is an update, and I 1733 01:25:53,240 --> 01:25:55,799 Speaker 1: think we get a little bit more closure. But jucy, 1734 01:25:56,040 --> 01:25:58,320 Speaker 1: how it's I think it's might have a little a 1735 01:25:58,360 --> 01:26:04,120 Speaker 1: little juice, maybe little milk. But how are you feeling 1736 01:26:04,200 --> 01:26:06,479 Speaker 1: so easy? Give me? Give me what's your what's your 1737 01:26:06,479 --> 01:26:09,920 Speaker 1: assessment right now? How are you feeling? Everyone's ridiculous? I mean, 1738 01:26:10,000 --> 01:26:14,400 Speaker 1: like like, if Amy agreed to have him care for her, 1739 01:26:14,520 --> 01:26:17,479 Speaker 1: then that end of story, right. I think that's yeah. 1740 01:26:17,840 --> 01:26:19,840 Speaker 1: I don't think there's anything wrong with it, But I 1741 01:26:19,840 --> 01:26:21,720 Speaker 1: would love to hear the update, like what's actually going 1742 01:26:21,760 --> 01:26:22,720 Speaker 1: on here? That's right? 1743 01:26:23,000 --> 01:26:25,479 Speaker 2: I would also like to hear if anyone of the 1744 01:26:25,560 --> 01:26:29,479 Speaker 2: audience has ever had an injury on one of their 1745 01:26:30,000 --> 01:26:34,040 Speaker 2: more sensitive areas and how that was, how that was 1746 01:26:34,080 --> 01:26:34,720 Speaker 2: taken care of. 1747 01:26:34,880 --> 01:26:37,800 Speaker 1: So I called Amy got some more info. I asked 1748 01:26:37,800 --> 01:26:40,320 Speaker 1: her how the cut was healing. She said that it 1749 01:26:40,360 --> 01:26:42,360 Speaker 1: was healing well and that she was keeping an eye 1750 01:26:42,400 --> 01:26:44,519 Speaker 1: on it, and then I asked her if she knew 1751 01:26:44,600 --> 01:26:46,960 Speaker 1: about the things that Sarah and the others had said 1752 01:26:46,960 --> 01:26:49,720 Speaker 1: about me and what Sarah had said at the fire pit. 1753 01:26:49,920 --> 01:26:53,960 Speaker 1: Turns out Amy had no idea Curious, She said the 1754 01:26:54,040 --> 01:26:56,840 Speaker 1: other women were asking her if she was okay and 1755 01:26:57,200 --> 01:26:59,360 Speaker 1: what happened and all that, but she assumed they were 1756 01:26:59,400 --> 01:27:02,320 Speaker 1: just worried about the injury, not my helping her. And 1757 01:27:02,400 --> 01:27:06,040 Speaker 1: Amy was absolutely pissed and went to the friend group 1758 01:27:06,120 --> 01:27:09,839 Speaker 1: chat and tore the people that were talking a whole 1759 01:27:10,040 --> 01:27:13,920 Speaker 1: new booty hole, especially Sarah Good Good. 1760 01:27:14,200 --> 01:27:17,439 Speaker 2: That's such a dick move, like like op was trying 1761 01:27:17,439 --> 01:27:19,200 Speaker 2: to do something nice and for the friend group to 1762 01:27:19,200 --> 01:27:21,360 Speaker 2: turn it into something weird is like not cool. 1763 01:27:21,600 --> 01:27:24,120 Speaker 1: Sarah and the others apologized to me in the group chat, 1764 01:27:24,120 --> 01:27:27,599 Speaker 1: but Amy kept going and said that I shouldn't accept 1765 01:27:27,600 --> 01:27:30,600 Speaker 1: their apologies because they sat back and talked pitt on 1766 01:27:30,680 --> 01:27:34,040 Speaker 1: the one person who stepped up and helped her. Amy 1767 01:27:34,200 --> 01:27:37,120 Speaker 1: also asked Greg not to invite Sarah to the next 1768 01:27:37,200 --> 01:27:40,160 Speaker 1: pool party, and Greg readily agreed. A few of the 1769 01:27:40,160 --> 01:27:42,880 Speaker 1: others tried to say that was too far, but Amy 1770 01:27:43,000 --> 01:27:45,599 Speaker 1: just told them to shut the f up and do 1771 01:27:45,680 --> 01:27:49,200 Speaker 1: something next time someone's hurt instead of sitting on their 1772 01:27:49,320 --> 01:27:53,879 Speaker 1: big old booties and insulting me. Well, ladies and gentlemen. 1773 01:27:54,000 --> 01:27:56,360 Speaker 1: I think I have two questions for everyone, Sam, I 1774 01:27:56,400 --> 01:27:59,439 Speaker 1: want all of you beautiful viewers of this. I want 1775 01:27:59,439 --> 01:28:01,439 Speaker 1: to know do you think Opie was the a hole 1776 01:28:01,600 --> 01:28:05,439 Speaker 1: for you know, helping? And but I b maybe is 1777 01:28:05,439 --> 01:28:09,640 Speaker 1: is Amy being an a hole? Here? Is her retaliation 1778 01:28:09,920 --> 01:28:13,439 Speaker 1: too much? Too much? Over the line? Sam, I will 1779 01:28:13,479 --> 01:28:14,600 Speaker 1: pass it to you. What do you What do you 1780 01:28:14,680 --> 01:28:16,040 Speaker 1: think here? What do you what do you think? Well? 1781 01:28:16,400 --> 01:28:19,640 Speaker 1: I think telling Sarah that what she did is not 1782 01:28:19,760 --> 01:28:22,160 Speaker 1: cool is important totally. 1783 01:28:22,280 --> 01:28:26,240 Speaker 2: Not inviting her maybe is a little bit too much 1784 01:28:26,439 --> 01:28:29,680 Speaker 2: because it like she's probably like I think, Sarah, it 1785 01:28:29,760 --> 01:28:31,439 Speaker 2: seems like we was just doing it as a joke, 1786 01:28:31,760 --> 01:28:35,559 Speaker 2: not being serious necessarily, but it is a like kind 1787 01:28:35,640 --> 01:28:38,799 Speaker 2: of a dick move. So I would say, hey, Sarah, 1788 01:28:38,840 --> 01:28:41,840 Speaker 2: that wasn't nice of you. You know this person OPI 1789 01:28:41,960 --> 01:28:44,439 Speaker 2: is doing something like actually kind what did you do? 1790 01:28:44,800 --> 01:28:45,920 Speaker 1: And you know I. 1791 01:28:46,720 --> 01:28:49,519 Speaker 2: Want better behavior from you at the next pool party. 1792 01:28:49,600 --> 01:28:51,720 Speaker 2: That's that's kind of what I would approach it. I 1793 01:28:51,720 --> 01:28:53,840 Speaker 2: would I wouldn't like and not invite her forever. 1794 01:28:54,120 --> 01:28:56,760 Speaker 1: Yeah. I feel like if I'm trying to empathize and 1795 01:28:56,800 --> 01:29:01,640 Speaker 1: put myself in amy shoes, it's not really that necessary to, 1796 01:29:02,200 --> 01:29:05,240 Speaker 1: you know, go that hard. But maybe maybe also Sarah 1797 01:29:05,439 --> 01:29:08,000 Speaker 1: is just kind of like not a good you know, 1798 01:29:08,360 --> 01:29:11,000 Speaker 1: maybe Sarah's just a little friend. This is yeah, maybe 1799 01:29:11,080 --> 01:29:14,120 Speaker 1: this is like, this is representative of other behavior. I 1800 01:29:14,200 --> 01:29:18,040 Speaker 1: got my useless assistant fired. I don't really care. I 1801 01:29:18,120 --> 01:29:21,160 Speaker 1: had to secure that bag. Am I've a hole. So 1802 01:29:21,240 --> 01:29:23,760 Speaker 1: I know how this sounds. But please read before you 1803 01:29:23,880 --> 01:29:27,519 Speaker 1: judge too, laideo p oh they we judge, then read, 1804 01:29:27,560 --> 01:29:31,120 Speaker 1: and then we judge again. Yeah. I thirty mail. Worked 1805 01:29:31,200 --> 01:29:34,360 Speaker 1: at my current employer for the last three years. Last year, 1806 01:29:34,479 --> 01:29:37,799 Speaker 1: March of twenty twenty, I received a promotion to project manager. 1807 01:29:37,880 --> 01:29:40,599 Speaker 1: In the beginning, everything went well, but in the last 1808 01:29:40,680 --> 01:29:44,000 Speaker 1: month I've been getting more and more negative feedback. I 1809 01:29:44,040 --> 01:29:46,599 Speaker 1: did not understand what was going on or why people 1810 01:29:46,600 --> 01:29:49,960 Speaker 1: were becoming so negative about me. I'm losing clients and 1811 01:29:50,040 --> 01:29:53,880 Speaker 1: several colleagues were really upset with me. Why, well, is 1812 01:29:53,920 --> 01:29:56,639 Speaker 1: there something going around the water cooler? I started talking 1813 01:29:56,640 --> 01:30:00,000 Speaker 1: to my manager and my department head about following courses, 1814 01:30:00,280 --> 01:30:03,320 Speaker 1: getting monthly feedback to perform better. I just wanted to 1815 01:30:03,360 --> 01:30:06,479 Speaker 1: live up to the promotion I received. I felt like 1816 01:30:06,640 --> 01:30:10,320 Speaker 1: I was failing. Then a friend slash colleague twenty seven 1817 01:30:10,360 --> 01:30:13,720 Speaker 1: female of mine came to me angry and demanded that 1818 01:30:13,840 --> 01:30:16,760 Speaker 1: I apologize for what I said. I was really confused, 1819 01:30:16,960 --> 01:30:19,720 Speaker 1: what did OP say and asked why she was so 1820 01:30:19,800 --> 01:30:22,799 Speaker 1: upset with me. She explained that she received an email 1821 01:30:22,960 --> 01:30:26,160 Speaker 1: where I was basically blaming her for the issues that 1822 01:30:26,360 --> 01:30:28,760 Speaker 1: I was dealing with. I was at a loss, and 1823 01:30:28,840 --> 01:30:32,400 Speaker 1: I explained that I never sent out that email and 1824 01:30:32,520 --> 01:30:35,200 Speaker 1: asked if she could show me. We're like Scooby doing this, 1825 01:30:35,400 --> 01:30:37,880 Speaker 1: like what's going on here? Well, she did it, and 1826 01:30:37,960 --> 01:30:41,360 Speaker 1: it had my name, my send address, and everything seemed 1827 01:30:41,640 --> 01:30:45,240 Speaker 1: like the email was for me, but I never sent it. 1828 01:30:45,680 --> 01:30:49,479 Speaker 1: Then it clicked with me. My assistant thirty nine female 1829 01:30:49,600 --> 01:30:53,080 Speaker 1: has access to my email and has the ability to 1830 01:30:53,280 --> 01:30:59,160 Speaker 1: send emails as me, But why, what's the motive? She's 1831 01:30:59,280 --> 01:31:03,200 Speaker 1: also the only one that has those rights. I was flabbergasted, 1832 01:31:03,439 --> 01:31:06,880 Speaker 1: and so much started to make sense. She was next 1833 01:31:06,880 --> 01:31:11,680 Speaker 1: in line for my job and did not receive the promotion. Oh, 1834 01:31:11,720 --> 01:31:15,320 Speaker 1: and so she's trying to sabotage I checked all her 1835 01:31:15,360 --> 01:31:17,640 Speaker 1: sent mail on her prec when she was out for 1836 01:31:17,720 --> 01:31:21,280 Speaker 1: lunch and saw dozens of emails sent as if it 1837 01:31:21,360 --> 01:31:24,960 Speaker 1: was me. Yeah, you're ruining relationships with these people. Cheus. 1838 01:31:25,479 --> 01:31:29,160 Speaker 1: An email still open on her screen showed my email 1839 01:31:29,200 --> 01:31:34,440 Speaker 1: address and a written message to clients with misinformation, passive aggressiveness, 1840 01:31:34,479 --> 01:31:38,920 Speaker 1: and straight up lies. These were sent out under my name. 1841 01:31:39,360 --> 01:31:43,320 Speaker 1: Oh my god. I took screenshots and sent them to myself, 1842 01:31:43,479 --> 01:31:46,040 Speaker 1: then went to my manager and the head of my department. 1843 01:31:46,200 --> 01:31:50,160 Speaker 1: They were pissed. I mean, I can't imagine. Why wouldn't 1844 01:31:50,200 --> 01:31:54,559 Speaker 1: you be. She was fired that same day. I was 1845 01:31:54,600 --> 01:31:57,679 Speaker 1: relieved and all of my colleagues were informed. I thought 1846 01:31:57,680 --> 01:32:00,280 Speaker 1: I was completely in the right here, but some people 1847 01:32:00,320 --> 01:32:03,840 Speaker 1: at work are complaining that I violated company policy for 1848 01:32:03,920 --> 01:32:08,320 Speaker 1: snooping on her PC and violating her privacy. Way what 1849 01:32:08,640 --> 01:32:11,920 Speaker 1: her privacy was violated. My boss and direct colleagues have 1850 01:32:12,040 --> 01:32:14,400 Speaker 1: my back, but the people that knew her she has 1851 01:32:14,439 --> 01:32:17,639 Speaker 1: worked here since twenty eleven and I've only been here 1852 01:32:17,680 --> 01:32:21,440 Speaker 1: since twenty eighteen, say that I went too far. Apparently 1853 01:32:21,600 --> 01:32:24,800 Speaker 1: she's a single mother, with two kids and needed this job. Well, 1854 01:32:24,800 --> 01:32:28,080 Speaker 1: maybe she shouldn't have tried to sabotage you. I also 1855 01:32:28,160 --> 01:32:30,559 Speaker 1: need this job, and she was more than willing to 1856 01:32:30,600 --> 01:32:33,680 Speaker 1: sacrifice me for her benefit. I don't see how I 1857 01:32:33,720 --> 01:32:36,599 Speaker 1: could be in the wrong for defending myself. Maybe I'm 1858 01:32:36,680 --> 01:32:39,559 Speaker 1: just too close to the situation. Did I go too 1859 01:32:39,640 --> 01:32:44,000 Speaker 1: far by going on her pc? There is an update? 1860 01:32:44,439 --> 01:32:48,479 Speaker 1: But Sam, ladies and gentlemen watching, what do we think? 1861 01:32:48,800 --> 01:32:49,120 Speaker 1: I mean? 1862 01:32:49,160 --> 01:32:54,479 Speaker 2: Going on someone else's computer is like kind generally not great. Yeah, 1863 01:32:54,800 --> 01:32:57,519 Speaker 2: I think he had enough evidence with the email that 1864 01:32:57,600 --> 01:33:01,200 Speaker 2: was sent from her already. Obviously the assistant is the ahole, 1865 01:33:01,280 --> 01:33:02,880 Speaker 2: but I think op's a little bit of the ahole 1866 01:33:03,000 --> 01:33:03,839 Speaker 2: for snooping. 1867 01:33:03,960 --> 01:33:06,160 Speaker 1: They just let me know that they're holding a meeting 1868 01:33:06,160 --> 01:33:09,680 Speaker 1: to clarify what exactly happened. They were catching on to 1869 01:33:09,800 --> 01:33:12,920 Speaker 1: the people that weren't happy about her being fired, and 1870 01:33:12,960 --> 01:33:16,120 Speaker 1: they want to resolve any issues before they start taking route. 1871 01:33:16,160 --> 01:33:19,040 Speaker 1: I'll update once the meeting is over. Update number two. 1872 01:33:19,200 --> 01:33:21,639 Speaker 1: Meeting took about an hour and a half, and after 1873 01:33:21,680 --> 01:33:24,040 Speaker 1: that I was in and out of talks with colleagues 1874 01:33:24,080 --> 01:33:26,760 Speaker 1: and other people who has poorly explained what she was 1875 01:33:26,800 --> 01:33:29,680 Speaker 1: doing and has done to me and the company. The 1876 01:33:29,720 --> 01:33:33,640 Speaker 1: attitude towards me noticeably changed in a positive direction, with 1877 01:33:33,680 --> 01:33:36,960 Speaker 1: a lot of people apologizing to me and explaining they've 1878 01:33:37,000 --> 01:33:39,800 Speaker 1: known her for years, were friends with her, and could 1879 01:33:39,800 --> 01:33:43,639 Speaker 1: not imagine she actually did something like this. Honestly, I'm 1880 01:33:43,640 --> 01:33:46,400 Speaker 1: happy it ended this way. Hr and my boss really 1881 01:33:46,400 --> 01:33:49,639 Speaker 1: had my back here and preemptively handled to avoid any 1882 01:33:49,760 --> 01:33:53,880 Speaker 1: lingering negative activity. Nothing but praise for them. I've requested 1883 01:33:53,920 --> 01:33:56,080 Speaker 1: some time off, which was approved, and I'll be home 1884 01:33:56,120 --> 01:33:59,360 Speaker 1: for a week starting next week. Her my request slash advice. 1885 01:33:59,400 --> 01:34:02,000 Speaker 1: They're going to revise or at least look at the 1886 01:34:02,080 --> 01:34:06,080 Speaker 1: company policy regarding access to other people's emails and other 1887 01:34:06,160 --> 01:34:09,240 Speaker 1: security issues that I've noticed. It'll probably be the last 1888 01:34:09,360 --> 01:34:11,960 Speaker 1: update for now. I might make an update post if 1889 01:34:12,000 --> 01:34:16,160 Speaker 1: anything else significant happens. Thank you all again. Well I'm 1890 01:34:16,200 --> 01:34:18,599 Speaker 1: glad it kind of all worked out for OP. Yeah. 1891 01:34:18,640 --> 01:34:22,320 Speaker 1: OP definitely deserved to be basically have their name cleared. 1892 01:34:22,479 --> 01:34:25,040 Speaker 1: I just found out my boyfriend is married and now 1893 01:34:25,080 --> 01:34:25,760 Speaker 1: I'm pregnant. 1894 01:34:25,800 --> 01:34:29,439 Speaker 2: So I'm going to a little tit for tat Hey, 1895 01:34:29,520 --> 01:34:31,280 Speaker 2: that's what we need more in this world. 1896 01:34:31,640 --> 01:34:34,479 Speaker 1: Tits. So I know how the title sounds, but to 1897 01:34:34,560 --> 01:34:35,040 Speaker 1: hear me out. 1898 01:34:35,240 --> 01:34:38,639 Speaker 2: I twenty six female, started dating my now boyfriend, thirty 1899 01:34:38,640 --> 01:34:41,360 Speaker 2: five male. We have been dating four seven months. A 1900 01:34:41,400 --> 01:34:43,639 Speaker 2: month ago, he told me that he had to talk 1901 01:34:43,680 --> 01:34:46,880 Speaker 2: to me about something important. I honestly thought maybe he 1902 01:34:46,960 --> 01:34:49,280 Speaker 2: wanted to break up with me, but what he said 1903 01:34:49,680 --> 01:34:51,639 Speaker 2: was so much worse. 1904 01:34:51,960 --> 01:34:52,680 Speaker 1: It always is. 1905 01:34:53,040 --> 01:34:55,519 Speaker 2: My boyfriend sat me down and said that there was 1906 01:34:55,560 --> 01:34:58,840 Speaker 2: a problem, the problem being he's falling in love with me. 1907 01:34:59,080 --> 01:35:01,040 Speaker 2: When he said that, I I was so confused. I 1908 01:35:01,040 --> 01:35:03,280 Speaker 2: didn't understand what the problem was. We don't understand either. 1909 01:35:03,439 --> 01:35:05,679 Speaker 2: I asked him why that was a problem, and that's 1910 01:35:05,720 --> 01:35:09,040 Speaker 2: when he told me that he's actually married and has 1911 01:35:09,120 --> 01:35:09,880 Speaker 2: been divorced. 1912 01:35:10,120 --> 01:35:13,559 Speaker 1: I wonder why, and he lied about his age. He's 1913 01:35:13,600 --> 01:35:17,320 Speaker 1: actually forty two, seven years older. That's old stuff. Hey, 1914 01:35:17,320 --> 01:35:18,840 Speaker 1: if you want a data forty two old right now. 1915 01:35:19,000 --> 01:35:23,519 Speaker 1: I mean, I sat there shocked. I didn't know what's saying. 1916 01:35:23,560 --> 01:35:25,839 Speaker 2: When I finally came out of the shock, I grabbed 1917 01:35:25,880 --> 01:35:28,880 Speaker 2: my stuff and told them, never call or text me 1918 01:35:28,920 --> 01:35:32,200 Speaker 2: ever again. Get out, take your walker with you. He tried, 1919 01:35:32,280 --> 01:35:35,120 Speaker 2: saying what most cheaters do, that I was different. His 1920 01:35:35,160 --> 01:35:37,800 Speaker 2: wife and him hadn't been happy in a really long time. 1921 01:35:37,920 --> 01:35:43,639 Speaker 1: And it was considering divorce, considering divorce. Ain't divorce, is it? Though? Divorce? Divorce? 1922 01:35:43,920 --> 01:35:47,840 Speaker 1: Why don't you consider it before you engage in the relationship. 1923 01:35:47,960 --> 01:35:51,080 Speaker 2: I still grabbed my stuff and left, and I didn't 1924 01:35:51,080 --> 01:35:52,080 Speaker 2: think twice about it. 1925 01:35:52,120 --> 01:35:53,080 Speaker 1: There we go, and for. 1926 01:35:53,080 --> 01:35:55,839 Speaker 2: You all, you got some standards off queen. The problem 1927 01:35:56,000 --> 01:36:00,439 Speaker 2: came about two weeks ago. My period was two months late. 1928 01:36:00,800 --> 01:36:03,360 Speaker 2: Two months, ladies, I would love to know when do 1929 01:36:03,400 --> 01:36:07,080 Speaker 2: you get worried about when your lateness is. I wasn't 1930 01:36:07,120 --> 01:36:10,559 Speaker 2: worried because I am extremely irregular, okay, But after being 1931 01:36:10,640 --> 01:36:13,880 Speaker 2: late for a second month, I decided to take a EPT, 1932 01:36:14,280 --> 01:36:18,880 Speaker 2: which is an emergency pregnancy test, and it was positive. 1933 01:36:19,160 --> 01:36:19,400 Speaker 1: Oh. 1934 01:36:19,960 --> 01:36:22,120 Speaker 2: I thought maybe it was a false positive and took 1935 01:36:22,320 --> 01:36:23,720 Speaker 2: six more tests. 1936 01:36:24,160 --> 01:36:27,960 Speaker 1: Damn, that's bro. Pregnancy test are like fifty bucks. Run 1937 01:36:28,000 --> 01:36:29,639 Speaker 1: it back and they were all positive. 1938 01:36:29,800 --> 01:36:31,680 Speaker 2: Don't ask me why I know the pregnancy test are 1939 01:36:31,720 --> 01:36:32,800 Speaker 2: fifty bucks. 1940 01:36:32,920 --> 01:36:34,000 Speaker 1: I was so upset. 1941 01:36:34,160 --> 01:36:37,240 Speaker 2: I cried out of shock and anger because of the 1942 01:36:37,320 --> 01:36:40,920 Speaker 2: situation as a whole. I call my now ex boyfriend 1943 01:36:41,120 --> 01:36:43,519 Speaker 2: and he didn't respond. I texted him telling him we 1944 01:36:43,560 --> 01:36:47,879 Speaker 2: need to talk, and radio silence. After days of calling 1945 01:36:47,960 --> 01:36:51,000 Speaker 2: and texting, he finally answered the phone and asked if 1946 01:36:51,040 --> 01:36:53,439 Speaker 2: I was pregnant. He didn't think it was his and 1947 01:36:53,479 --> 01:36:55,880 Speaker 2: he said to stop texting and calling and hung up. 1948 01:36:56,080 --> 01:37:04,759 Speaker 1: What happened all the stop it? I was livid? How 1949 01:37:05,040 --> 01:37:05,640 Speaker 1: dare he? 1950 01:37:06,040 --> 01:37:08,959 Speaker 2: I wasn't the one lying and cheating. Now being pregnant, 1951 01:37:09,080 --> 01:37:10,960 Speaker 2: I would have to explain to my family the real 1952 01:37:11,000 --> 01:37:14,120 Speaker 2: reason I broke up with him and tell them I'm pregnant. 1953 01:37:14,160 --> 01:37:15,639 Speaker 1: Fast forward to Mother's Day. 1954 01:37:15,800 --> 01:37:19,280 Speaker 2: Happy Mother's Day, HOPI, my family and I went out 1955 01:37:19,320 --> 01:37:22,120 Speaker 2: to dinner Saturday night to celebrate. I'm about twelve weeks 1956 01:37:22,160 --> 01:37:24,599 Speaker 2: a long in my pregnancy and have to pee all 1957 01:37:24,840 --> 01:37:27,320 Speaker 2: the time. As I was walking to the bathroom, I 1958 01:37:27,360 --> 01:37:30,600 Speaker 2: saw my lying, cheating hooker of an ex and he 1959 01:37:30,720 --> 01:37:32,519 Speaker 2: was there with his family and friends, and based on 1960 01:37:32,600 --> 01:37:35,200 Speaker 2: his body language, his wife. 1961 01:37:34,960 --> 01:37:39,320 Speaker 1: Oo, here we go good. 1962 01:37:39,680 --> 01:37:44,000 Speaker 2: Something good in the kitchen. I was so hurt and 1963 01:37:44,120 --> 01:37:47,960 Speaker 2: angry about everything. Rightfully, so ope, I didn't think before acting. 1964 01:37:48,120 --> 01:37:52,040 Speaker 2: I went to their table. Oh no, I introduced myself. 1965 01:37:52,160 --> 01:37:55,240 Speaker 1: I told everyone at the table what happened from start 1966 01:37:55,439 --> 01:37:59,839 Speaker 1: to finish, showed them pictures of us together and text 1967 01:38:00,040 --> 01:38:03,599 Speaker 1: and as a final note, I announced my pregnancy. Before 1968 01:38:03,640 --> 01:38:07,000 Speaker 1: I leave the table and I grabbed his drink and 1969 01:38:07,120 --> 01:38:12,040 Speaker 1: I threw it out him. I love it, Yo. 1970 01:38:15,960 --> 01:38:19,040 Speaker 2: I hope he's rich, and I hope the child support 1971 01:38:19,240 --> 01:38:23,040 Speaker 2: is oodles and yeah. I then looked over at his 1972 01:38:23,200 --> 01:38:26,559 Speaker 2: wife all and she was bawling. I felt bad, but 1973 01:38:26,680 --> 01:38:29,639 Speaker 2: I was so hurt and angry? So did I take 1974 01:38:29,640 --> 01:38:32,200 Speaker 2: it too far? Am I the A hole? Should I 1975 01:38:32,240 --> 01:38:35,120 Speaker 2: have done things differently? And there is an update? John, 1976 01:38:35,240 --> 01:38:38,240 Speaker 2: there is an update, But please tell me in the 1977 01:38:38,240 --> 01:38:40,559 Speaker 2: comments would you have taken it so like? Would you 1978 01:38:40,560 --> 01:38:42,320 Speaker 2: have taken it as far as OPI? Also, would you 1979 01:38:42,360 --> 01:38:45,400 Speaker 2: even have thought to do that? Because that was chef's 1980 01:38:45,479 --> 01:38:49,080 Speaker 2: kiss well orchestrated? Well, tell me what you would do 1981 01:38:49,200 --> 01:38:52,200 Speaker 2: in this situation if you saw your cheating, lying, dirty 1982 01:38:52,320 --> 01:38:56,120 Speaker 2: horror of an X and I guess baby daddy, daddy 1983 01:38:56,280 --> 01:38:58,360 Speaker 2: daddy in a restaurant with his wife. What would you do? 1984 01:38:58,560 --> 01:39:00,800 Speaker 2: But John, what would you do? Were getting to this update? 1985 01:39:00,840 --> 01:39:02,280 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know. I don't know if 1986 01:39:02,280 --> 01:39:04,519 Speaker 1: I would have done that, but I'm here for. 1987 01:39:04,439 --> 01:39:07,000 Speaker 2: It, hon, But honestly, if you could also think about 1988 01:39:07,000 --> 01:39:09,160 Speaker 2: it like she's doing a service to this woman. 1989 01:39:09,479 --> 01:39:11,320 Speaker 1: She is and it's like at the end of the day, 1990 01:39:11,360 --> 01:39:13,680 Speaker 1: It's like, oh, like, you know, why would you make 1991 01:39:13,720 --> 01:39:20,280 Speaker 1: the wife cry like that the husband? The husbands happened, Yeah, exactly, exactly. 1992 01:39:20,479 --> 01:39:22,759 Speaker 2: Okay, So his wife reached out to me and wanted 1993 01:39:22,800 --> 01:39:24,680 Speaker 2: to meet up. I met up with her because I 1994 01:39:24,680 --> 01:39:26,400 Speaker 2: felt like it was the least I could do after 1995 01:39:26,439 --> 01:39:29,519 Speaker 2: everything that happened. She thanked me for everything I did 1996 01:39:29,680 --> 01:39:32,360 Speaker 2: and said she let me know she filed for divorce. 1997 01:39:32,640 --> 01:39:35,559 Speaker 2: She had enough of the lies and the cheating. I 1998 01:39:35,720 --> 01:39:38,479 Speaker 2: was one of many over the time with their marriage. 1999 01:39:38,520 --> 01:39:40,519 Speaker 2: She told me I was the first woman to actually 2000 01:39:40,520 --> 01:39:44,439 Speaker 2: present pictures of pregnancy test and ultrasound and felt I 2001 01:39:44,520 --> 01:39:47,280 Speaker 2: was being genuine about what happened. I apologize, saying I 2002 01:39:47,320 --> 01:39:50,080 Speaker 2: never wanted to embarrass her. I was just so angry 2003 01:39:50,120 --> 01:39:52,200 Speaker 2: and I saw red. I told her if I had 2004 01:39:52,240 --> 01:39:54,439 Speaker 2: known he was married, I would have never dated him. 2005 01:39:54,560 --> 01:39:57,120 Speaker 2: She told me not to worry and believe me, especially 2006 01:39:57,200 --> 01:39:59,440 Speaker 2: with what I did when I saw him. She apologized 2007 01:39:59,439 --> 01:40:01,360 Speaker 2: to me for everything he did. This woman is a 2008 01:40:01,400 --> 01:40:04,800 Speaker 2: freaking saint deserves better. We cried about everything we've been 2009 01:40:04,840 --> 01:40:08,320 Speaker 2: through and comforted each other through the mess he created. 2010 01:40:08,439 --> 01:40:10,200 Speaker 2: I felt so much better having a heart to heart 2011 01:40:10,200 --> 01:40:12,080 Speaker 2: with her. And wish her the best. It was no 2012 01:40:12,200 --> 01:40:15,840 Speaker 2: surprise that he came looking for me, begging me to forgive. 2013 01:40:15,640 --> 01:40:16,840 Speaker 1: Him, and now he lost his wife. 2014 01:40:16,840 --> 01:40:18,800 Speaker 2: He was like, all right, I best I gotta go 2015 01:40:18,840 --> 01:40:22,559 Speaker 2: to the mistress during my freaking child, I told him 2016 01:40:22,600 --> 01:40:25,040 Speaker 2: to get lost and I never wanted to see him again, 2017 01:40:25,320 --> 01:40:28,400 Speaker 2: especially after saying the baby was not his. I wasn't 2018 01:40:28,439 --> 01:40:31,000 Speaker 2: surprised he tried to come back, especially after his wife 2019 01:40:31,080 --> 01:40:33,720 Speaker 2: filed for divorce. When it comes to the baby, there 2020 01:40:33,800 --> 01:40:37,400 Speaker 2: is also an update. Oh, after a lot of thinking, 2021 01:40:37,680 --> 01:40:40,760 Speaker 2: I have decided to keep my baby. Unfortunately, I was 2022 01:40:40,800 --> 01:40:43,880 Speaker 2: having some issues with bleeding due to the fetus not 2023 01:40:43,960 --> 01:40:47,360 Speaker 2: being fully attached properly to my uterine wall. After being 2024 01:40:47,400 --> 01:40:50,040 Speaker 2: on bed rest this past week, bleeding got worse and 2025 01:40:50,080 --> 01:40:53,599 Speaker 2: I lost my baby. And after having this miscarriage, it's 2026 01:40:53,600 --> 01:40:55,519 Speaker 2: been a very difficult time. I know everything happens for 2027 01:40:55,560 --> 01:40:56,599 Speaker 2: a reason, but it really hurts. 2028 01:40:56,680 --> 01:40:58,719 Speaker 1: I have a lot of guilt surrounding the miscarriage because 2029 01:40:58,800 --> 01:41:03,240 Speaker 1: I wanted an abortion, so harshly blame myself. Don't do that, op, Yeah, no, 2030 01:41:03,320 --> 01:41:04,160 Speaker 1: I don't deserve that. 2031 01:41:04,240 --> 01:41:07,360 Speaker 2: So now I'm just taking some time to heal and 2032 01:41:07,439 --> 01:41:11,120 Speaker 2: grieve my baby. Thank you for all the advice and comments. 2033 01:41:11,360 --> 01:41:13,000 Speaker 2: Holy that was a doozy. 2034 01:41:13,280 --> 01:41:14,000 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah. 2035 01:41:14,080 --> 01:41:16,200 Speaker 2: Let us know what you would have done in this situation, please? 2036 01:41:16,520 --> 01:41:20,040 Speaker 2: Would you have taken back this cheating X that is 2037 01:41:20,080 --> 01:41:22,240 Speaker 2: your baby daddy? Would you have done anything differently? Put 2038 01:41:22,280 --> 01:41:25,200 Speaker 2: your answers in the comments. John One final verdict. 2039 01:41:25,080 --> 01:41:28,040 Speaker 1: Yes, I do not think OP is the a hole 2040 01:41:28,240 --> 01:41:30,479 Speaker 1: you know, and and even more so after hearing in 2041 01:41:30,520 --> 01:41:33,479 Speaker 1: the update how like the now ex wife you know 2042 01:41:33,600 --> 01:41:35,240 Speaker 1: came to her and they were able to kind of 2043 01:41:35,360 --> 01:41:37,920 Speaker 1: like basically support each other in this moment, which which 2044 01:41:37,960 --> 01:41:41,720 Speaker 1: which was actually great to see. So obviously obviously the 2045 01:41:42,160 --> 01:41:47,360 Speaker 1: boyfriend X whatever like just clearly the a whole so bad. Oh, 2046 01:41:47,400 --> 01:41:49,759 Speaker 1: pretty much the only a hole in this whole story, 2047 01:41:49,800 --> 01:41:53,000 Speaker 1: which is rare, which which is rare, only one a hole. 2048 01:41:53,160 --> 01:41:56,639 Speaker 1: My psycho sister is obsessed with my boyfriend. I think 2049 01:41:56,680 --> 01:41:59,200 Speaker 1: she might try to steal him from me. What do 2050 01:41:59,280 --> 01:42:03,960 Speaker 1: I do a uglier boyfriend? So I female twenty three, 2051 01:42:04,040 --> 01:42:07,320 Speaker 1: have been dating my current boyfriend, male twenty eight for 2052 01:42:07,439 --> 01:42:11,040 Speaker 1: four months and I'm totally smitten. He's an old man. 2053 01:42:11,320 --> 01:42:15,719 Speaker 1: My boyfriend is the sweetest, smartest, kindest, most caring guy 2054 01:42:15,880 --> 01:42:18,720 Speaker 1: I have ever met, and I feel so lucky to 2055 01:42:18,840 --> 01:42:20,600 Speaker 1: have found him. We met at the start of the 2056 01:42:20,640 --> 01:42:23,800 Speaker 1: new semester at our university. He's a graduate student that 2057 01:42:23,920 --> 01:42:26,080 Speaker 1: was running a tutoring group that I joined. I'm a 2058 01:42:26,160 --> 01:42:29,640 Speaker 1: senior getting my bachelor's. We hit it off immediately and 2059 01:42:29,720 --> 01:42:32,920 Speaker 1: found out that we had a ton in common, including 2060 01:42:33,120 --> 01:42:35,800 Speaker 1: the same hometown. Nice. We even went to the same 2061 01:42:35,880 --> 01:42:39,320 Speaker 1: high school, although we never met previously. Yeah, because you're 2062 01:42:39,360 --> 01:42:43,559 Speaker 1: a baby's he's oldesta. He graduated the year before I 2063 01:42:43,640 --> 01:42:46,000 Speaker 1: started my freshman year, but he was in the same 2064 01:42:46,040 --> 01:42:48,360 Speaker 1: grade as my sister. I asked if he knew her, 2065 01:42:48,479 --> 01:42:52,759 Speaker 1: and he said yes, How well did you know her? Oh? God? 2066 01:42:53,080 --> 01:42:56,679 Speaker 1: But they hadn't kept in touch since graduation. We spent 2067 01:42:56,720 --> 01:42:59,080 Speaker 1: the last four months growing super close, and we were 2068 01:42:59,120 --> 01:43:01,639 Speaker 1: talking about maybe be bringing each other to our family 2069 01:43:01,680 --> 01:43:04,559 Speaker 1: holiday celebration. We didn't get to do Thanksgiving, but we 2070 01:43:04,720 --> 01:43:08,480 Speaker 1: decided to do Christmas together, and I was so excited. 2071 01:43:08,600 --> 01:43:11,200 Speaker 1: I hadn't told my parents or sister I was seeing anyone, 2072 01:43:11,280 --> 01:43:13,360 Speaker 1: so I decided to call them and let them know 2073 01:43:13,479 --> 01:43:15,600 Speaker 1: to make sure that it wasn't an issue if he 2074 01:43:15,680 --> 01:43:18,839 Speaker 1: came to our Christmas celebration this year. Ooh a boys 2075 01:43:19,000 --> 01:43:22,479 Speaker 1: coming over for Christmas. That's that's big new. That's big news, bears. 2076 01:43:22,560 --> 01:43:24,679 Speaker 1: My mom was super excited for me when I told 2077 01:43:24,720 --> 01:43:27,400 Speaker 1: her all about my boyfriend, and my dad said he 2078 01:43:27,520 --> 01:43:30,880 Speaker 1: sounded like a nice young man and he would be 2079 01:43:30,880 --> 01:43:34,160 Speaker 1: about the middle aged man, a little a nice middle 2080 01:43:34,160 --> 01:43:36,680 Speaker 1: aged man, twenty eight, one foot in the grave, come on. 2081 01:43:36,920 --> 01:43:39,920 Speaker 1: I then called my sister and I told her the 2082 01:43:39,960 --> 01:43:42,280 Speaker 1: news and even joked that it would be a little 2083 01:43:42,360 --> 01:43:45,519 Speaker 1: high school reunion for her. She was initially very excited 2084 01:43:45,560 --> 01:43:47,760 Speaker 1: to meet my new boyfriend, but when I told her 2085 01:43:47,840 --> 01:43:54,120 Speaker 1: who it was, oh, her mood changed dramatically. Uh oh, 2086 01:43:54,320 --> 01:43:58,080 Speaker 1: I think there's some history. She told me she would 2087 01:43:58,120 --> 01:44:01,720 Speaker 1: not be comfortable having a strange at her family's Christmas. 2088 01:44:01,800 --> 01:44:04,599 Speaker 1: He ain't no stranger. He ain't no stranger, for sure, 2089 01:44:04,840 --> 01:44:07,960 Speaker 1: and my sister said that she was sorry, but he 2090 01:44:08,439 --> 01:44:11,760 Speaker 1: can't come. They can inside of me. I was a 2091 01:44:11,760 --> 01:44:14,360 Speaker 1: bit shocked and asked her to explain, because she's very 2092 01:44:14,360 --> 01:44:17,120 Speaker 1: outgoing and never had a problem with strangers before. This 2093 01:44:17,240 --> 01:44:19,320 Speaker 1: isn't the first boyfriend that one of us has brought 2094 01:44:19,320 --> 01:44:21,400 Speaker 1: home for the holidays. I asked if she had not 2095 01:44:21,560 --> 01:44:23,679 Speaker 1: liked him in high school or something. And that's why 2096 01:44:23,680 --> 01:44:25,800 Speaker 1: she didn't want him to come. She said no, and 2097 01:44:25,840 --> 01:44:29,720 Speaker 1: that she I mean barely even remembered him, Like who 2098 01:44:29,800 --> 01:44:34,439 Speaker 1: is he? Like? Who is he? I remember? Is how 2099 01:44:35,240 --> 01:44:39,040 Speaker 1: ginormous his heart was? I asked if she would feel 2100 01:44:39,040 --> 01:44:42,280 Speaker 1: better meeting him before Christmas so it's not overwhelming on 2101 01:44:42,320 --> 01:44:46,160 Speaker 1: the actual holiday. She got really firm and told me 2102 01:44:46,400 --> 01:44:49,760 Speaker 1: that she didn't want to meet him before, during, or 2103 01:44:49,840 --> 01:44:52,920 Speaker 1: after Christmas and to drop it, and then she hung 2104 01:44:53,000 --> 01:44:55,040 Speaker 1: up on me. I mean, she's gonna have to meet 2105 01:44:55,120 --> 01:44:58,400 Speaker 1: him eventually if it keeps going, right, That is so true. 2106 01:44:58,479 --> 01:45:01,120 Speaker 1: So what are we gonna do? Like, never meet this dude? 2107 01:45:01,160 --> 01:45:03,519 Speaker 1: Come on, Yeah, at the wedding, she'll just be like 2108 01:45:03,600 --> 01:45:05,800 Speaker 1: sitting at home just like you. No, I don't want 2109 01:45:05,800 --> 01:45:08,360 Speaker 1: to talk to you. He's still a stranger to me. 2110 01:45:08,439 --> 01:45:12,560 Speaker 1: I haven't met him before has. She texted me a 2111 01:45:12,600 --> 01:45:15,040 Speaker 1: little later that it was rude of me to keep 2112 01:45:15,120 --> 01:45:17,840 Speaker 1: trying to force her to meet someone she doesn't want 2113 01:45:17,880 --> 01:45:20,240 Speaker 1: to and hopes I won't bring it up again. This 2114 01:45:20,360 --> 01:45:23,720 Speaker 1: makes no sense, bro, it's her boyfriend. Like, if it 2115 01:45:23,760 --> 01:45:27,559 Speaker 1: goes anywhere, she's they're gonna have to meet. Yeah, It's 2116 01:45:27,560 --> 01:45:30,040 Speaker 1: just God, this makes no sense. I asked my mom 2117 01:45:30,080 --> 01:45:32,519 Speaker 1: about it, but she's just as confused as I am, 2118 01:45:32,880 --> 01:45:35,200 Speaker 1: and said she would talk to her for me. I 2119 01:45:35,320 --> 01:45:37,800 Speaker 1: obviously won't bring it up to my boyfriend if it 2120 01:45:37,880 --> 01:45:40,559 Speaker 1: makes my sister uncomfortable. I just wish that she would 2121 01:45:40,560 --> 01:45:44,479 Speaker 1: give me a good reason, especially since she basically said 2122 01:45:44,560 --> 01:45:49,080 Speaker 1: she never wants to meet him. I am just so confused. 2123 01:45:49,439 --> 01:45:51,960 Speaker 1: Am I the a hole? I talked to my boyfriend 2124 01:45:52,000 --> 01:45:54,840 Speaker 1: last night, and he also seems confused. I asked him 2125 01:45:54,880 --> 01:45:57,200 Speaker 1: to please be honest with me and to let me 2126 01:45:57,320 --> 01:46:00,600 Speaker 1: know if anything went on between them just running in 2127 01:46:00,640 --> 01:46:03,000 Speaker 1: the same circles. He told me no, and they had 2128 01:46:03,080 --> 01:46:06,280 Speaker 1: only ever hung out in groups. She was really more 2129 01:46:06,280 --> 01:46:08,400 Speaker 1: of a friend of a friend and he had a 2130 01:46:08,479 --> 01:46:11,600 Speaker 1: long term girlfriend he committed to throughout high school, so 2131 01:46:11,680 --> 01:46:14,439 Speaker 1: he didn't even hook up with her. She also never 2132 01:46:14,479 --> 01:46:18,080 Speaker 1: bullied him, and from his perspective, he never bullied her. 2133 01:46:18,200 --> 01:46:20,839 Speaker 1: He said that they always had a friendly slash civil 2134 01:46:21,040 --> 01:46:24,599 Speaker 1: relationship and never so much as got into an argument. 2135 01:46:24,880 --> 01:46:27,559 Speaker 1: He doesn't know what her issue is with him. There's 2136 01:46:27,640 --> 01:46:30,320 Speaker 1: obviously more to the story from my sister's side, so 2137 01:46:30,400 --> 01:46:33,600 Speaker 1: I have to try to speak to her again, possibly 2138 01:46:33,680 --> 01:46:36,679 Speaker 1: in a few days. When I go home for the holidays, Sam, 2139 01:46:36,960 --> 01:46:40,479 Speaker 1: there's a day coming up. There is an update. Yes, 2140 01:46:40,560 --> 01:46:43,960 Speaker 1: thank god. All my position stays the same. 2141 01:46:44,120 --> 01:46:46,960 Speaker 2: Opie is not the a hole and the sister slept 2142 01:46:47,000 --> 01:46:50,599 Speaker 2: with OPI's boyfriend, Yeah, because a massive crush or had 2143 01:46:50,640 --> 01:46:53,280 Speaker 2: a massive crush. Because maybe the boyfriend actually is telling 2144 01:46:53,360 --> 01:46:55,760 Speaker 2: the truth and she just had a massive crush that 2145 01:46:55,840 --> 01:46:57,120 Speaker 2: was like never reciprocated. 2146 01:46:57,160 --> 01:46:59,200 Speaker 1: I could see that being a thing too. There's only 2147 01:46:59,439 --> 01:47:02,360 Speaker 1: one way to to the bottom of that update. That night, 2148 01:47:02,400 --> 01:47:05,280 Speaker 1: I ended up messaging my sister's childhood best friend to 2149 01:47:05,280 --> 01:47:07,840 Speaker 1: see if she knew anything about my boyfriend. Oh, she's 2150 01:47:07,880 --> 01:47:11,599 Speaker 1: doing some investigative journalism. Now. I played it as did 2151 01:47:11,640 --> 01:47:14,320 Speaker 1: you know my boyfriend in high school? Rather than what 2152 01:47:14,360 --> 01:47:18,040 Speaker 1: the fuck is my sister's problem? Smart choice smart. She 2153 01:47:18,120 --> 01:47:22,479 Speaker 1: confirmed his name and then asked if my sister knew yet. Oho, 2154 01:47:23,479 --> 01:47:27,240 Speaker 1: Oh we have. We're starting to get to this, to 2155 01:47:27,280 --> 01:47:29,400 Speaker 1: get somewhere on the map. A red flag went up 2156 01:47:29,439 --> 01:47:32,600 Speaker 1: and I said yes, and she doesn't seem happy. She 2157 01:47:32,840 --> 01:47:36,680 Speaker 1: then asked to call me, and a lot of you 2158 01:47:37,040 --> 01:47:42,080 Speaker 1: were right. My sister was obsessed with my boyfriend from 2159 01:47:42,320 --> 01:47:45,920 Speaker 1: seventh grade all the way up until they graduated and 2160 01:47:46,080 --> 01:47:50,080 Speaker 1: went to college in different states, seven years of your 2161 01:47:50,160 --> 01:47:53,640 Speaker 1: childhood too. I asked her if there was more to 2162 01:47:53,760 --> 01:47:56,840 Speaker 1: it than that, because I can't believe my grown sister 2163 01:47:56,920 --> 01:47:59,360 Speaker 1: would act this way over a little crush. And she 2164 01:47:59,479 --> 01:48:02,960 Speaker 1: told me it wasn't a little crush. She was legit 2165 01:48:03,200 --> 01:48:06,120 Speaker 1: in love with him. Since she said in love, I 2166 01:48:06,240 --> 01:48:09,200 Speaker 1: asked if my boyfriend knew or if anything had happened 2167 01:48:09,200 --> 01:48:11,639 Speaker 1: between them, and she said that as far as she knew, 2168 01:48:11,840 --> 01:48:16,040 Speaker 1: he didn't know, and they for sure had never hooked up, 2169 01:48:16,120 --> 01:48:23,400 Speaker 1: to my sister's extreme displeasure. Oh wow, so it's like, basically, 2170 01:48:23,800 --> 01:48:27,800 Speaker 1: OPI has finally gotten what the ciss always wanted. I yeah, 2171 01:48:27,920 --> 01:48:30,200 Speaker 1: that must be what it is, you know, hikes, that 2172 01:48:30,800 --> 01:48:33,360 Speaker 1: must be what it is. She pined for him for 2173 01:48:33,520 --> 01:48:36,640 Speaker 1: years and was devastated when he started dating one of 2174 01:48:36,680 --> 01:48:39,280 Speaker 1: their other friends freshman year. She would show up to 2175 01:48:39,360 --> 01:48:42,360 Speaker 1: his work with other guys, only go to parties if 2176 01:48:42,400 --> 01:48:45,599 Speaker 1: she knew he was going, hooked up with his best 2177 01:48:45,640 --> 01:48:49,160 Speaker 1: friend to try to make him jealous, and once even 2178 01:48:49,280 --> 01:48:53,840 Speaker 1: tried to break him and his girlfriend up. Wow. Okay, 2179 01:48:53,960 --> 01:48:57,439 Speaker 1: I ope, He's sister is crazy. Yeah, she's a many 2180 01:48:57,600 --> 01:49:01,599 Speaker 1: full on this full on Psycho. When my boyfriend and 2181 01:49:01,640 --> 01:49:04,920 Speaker 1: his then girlfriend did eventually break up senior year, my 2182 01:49:05,040 --> 01:49:07,599 Speaker 1: sister thought it was her big moment, but he never 2183 01:49:07,680 --> 01:49:11,679 Speaker 1: even gave her a second glance. Apparently she still held 2184 01:49:11,720 --> 01:49:15,080 Speaker 1: a small torch for him all these years still, and 2185 01:49:15,120 --> 01:49:17,960 Speaker 1: her friend says she thinks that she would still want 2186 01:49:18,040 --> 01:49:20,200 Speaker 1: to be with him if he would have her, and 2187 01:49:20,240 --> 01:49:23,719 Speaker 1: she's probably just jealous. Oh, this is kind of crazy 2188 01:49:23,760 --> 01:49:26,519 Speaker 1: because you know that sister is going to be after 2189 01:49:26,560 --> 01:49:29,920 Speaker 1: this dude the whole relationship. That's the thing is like, 2190 01:49:30,080 --> 01:49:35,040 Speaker 1: that's what's crazy. Like this is like not a small obsession, 2191 01:49:35,200 --> 01:49:38,760 Speaker 1: like now that this dude is in her life. Ah, dude, 2192 01:49:38,840 --> 01:49:41,720 Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm like worried for the relationship. I'm just 2193 01:49:41,720 --> 01:49:44,320 Speaker 1: worried for the relationship if the sisters it sounds like 2194 01:49:44,320 --> 01:49:46,000 Speaker 1: the sister's going to try to sabotage it. I'm going 2195 01:49:46,040 --> 01:49:47,880 Speaker 1: to try to talk to her one more time and 2196 01:49:48,000 --> 01:49:50,479 Speaker 1: let her know that I know about her crush and 2197 01:49:50,520 --> 01:49:53,240 Speaker 1: hopefully we could deal with this like adults. My sister 2198 01:49:53,320 --> 01:49:55,479 Speaker 1: did end up calling me the next day and asked 2199 01:49:55,479 --> 01:49:57,200 Speaker 1: to come over to speak with me. When she got 2200 01:49:57,240 --> 01:50:01,000 Speaker 1: to my parents, she looked very sheepish. And immediate apologized 2201 01:50:01,000 --> 01:50:03,479 Speaker 1: for acting crazy and shutting me down for bringing my 2202 01:50:03,560 --> 01:50:07,400 Speaker 1: boyfriend without talking to me first. Little more reasonable. Now, Okay, 2203 01:50:07,439 --> 01:50:10,760 Speaker 1: she's probably just shocked, you know, probably yeah, yeah, still 2204 01:50:10,800 --> 01:50:12,559 Speaker 1: though still kind of crazy. It's still kind of crazy. 2205 01:50:12,640 --> 01:50:15,080 Speaker 1: I thanked her for apologizing and asked her to explain 2206 01:50:15,120 --> 01:50:18,519 Speaker 1: her reasoning in her own words. My sister finally admitted 2207 01:50:18,520 --> 01:50:20,479 Speaker 1: her huge crush and she just felt weird that the 2208 01:50:20,479 --> 01:50:23,240 Speaker 1: guy that she liked so much never noticed her but 2209 01:50:23,400 --> 01:50:26,040 Speaker 1: noticed her little sister and just felt a little icky 2210 01:50:26,120 --> 01:50:29,200 Speaker 1: about the whole situation. She didn't want to be around him, 2211 01:50:29,280 --> 01:50:32,040 Speaker 1: as it would make her feel like that desperate, insecure 2212 01:50:32,080 --> 01:50:35,479 Speaker 1: teenager all over again, and she was super embarrassed by 2213 01:50:35,479 --> 01:50:39,080 Speaker 1: her teenage self. Also, that makes sense. I asked if 2214 01:50:39,120 --> 01:50:41,639 Speaker 1: she still had feelings for my boyfriend, and she chuckled 2215 01:50:41,720 --> 01:50:45,679 Speaker 1: and said, ah, net, that ship has long sailed and 2216 01:50:45,960 --> 01:50:49,120 Speaker 1: she really truly is happy in her current relationship. Ah, 2217 01:50:49,160 --> 01:50:51,400 Speaker 1: so she's in a relationship. Okay, good, that's good. Her 2218 01:50:51,439 --> 01:50:55,320 Speaker 1: boyfriend also knows everything about the situation, as she confided 2219 01:50:55,360 --> 01:50:57,920 Speaker 1: in him. She doesn't want to face my boyfriend knowing 2220 01:50:58,000 --> 01:51:01,280 Speaker 1: how intense her feelings were, and she there's no way 2221 01:51:01,360 --> 01:51:04,080 Speaker 1: that he couldn't have noticed, I assured her. He said 2222 01:51:04,120 --> 01:51:06,040 Speaker 1: that he has no bad memories of her and is 2223 01:51:06,120 --> 01:51:09,040 Speaker 1: interested in getting to know my sister with a clean slate. 2224 01:51:09,240 --> 01:51:11,439 Speaker 1: My sister said she would try to move past her 2225 01:51:11,479 --> 01:51:14,760 Speaker 1: discomfort and is looking forward to seeing us both at Christmas. 2226 01:51:14,800 --> 01:51:18,240 Speaker 1: So with that, my boyfriend did end up coming to Christmas, 2227 01:51:18,240 --> 01:51:20,280 Speaker 1: and it was great. My sister gave him a bit 2228 01:51:20,280 --> 01:51:22,639 Speaker 1: of an awkward greeting and they didn't interact a ton, 2229 01:51:22,840 --> 01:51:25,439 Speaker 1: but we all played games together and my parents loved him. 2230 01:51:25,439 --> 01:51:27,800 Speaker 1: My boyfriend was super nice to my sister, and he 2231 01:51:27,840 --> 01:51:30,400 Speaker 1: said that he didn't feel uncomfortable in the slightest. It 2232 01:51:30,439 --> 01:51:33,040 Speaker 1: was honestly so lovely, and I feel like the awkwardness 2233 01:51:33,080 --> 01:51:35,879 Speaker 1: my sister is feeling will fade with time. She texted 2234 01:51:35,920 --> 01:51:38,280 Speaker 1: me after her and her boyfriend left that we made 2235 01:51:38,320 --> 01:51:41,360 Speaker 1: a great couple and she was again sorry for almost 2236 01:51:41,479 --> 01:51:44,519 Speaker 1: ruining my Christmas. I told her that I forgive her 2237 01:51:44,600 --> 01:51:46,240 Speaker 1: and I love her always. 2238 01:51:46,680 --> 01:51:50,160 Speaker 2: Wow, Okay, it kind of all worked out. It all 2239 01:51:50,200 --> 01:51:50,679 Speaker 2: worked out. 2240 01:51:50,760 --> 01:51:53,000 Speaker 1: I was worried about it. I was worried. They Yeah, 2241 01:51:53,200 --> 01:51:55,439 Speaker 1: I was worried that she was still going to be obsessed, 2242 01:51:55,439 --> 01:51:57,840 Speaker 1: But sounds like it that wasn't the case totally. So 2243 01:51:58,040 --> 01:52:01,120 Speaker 1: I'm very curious for everyone everyone listening here, what would 2244 01:52:01,200 --> 01:52:04,680 Speaker 1: you do your childhood crush that you you know, obsessed 2245 01:52:04,680 --> 01:52:07,360 Speaker 1: over dates your sibling? You know, what do you what 2246 01:52:07,400 --> 01:52:08,840 Speaker 1: do you do in that scenario? So how do you 2247 01:52:08,880 --> 01:52:10,680 Speaker 1: tell your crush? I mean, like do you like what 2248 01:52:10,680 --> 01:52:13,760 Speaker 1: do people do like when with crushes? Do like like 2249 01:52:13,840 --> 01:52:15,640 Speaker 1: do you tell your crush? I mean I have like 2250 01:52:15,680 --> 01:52:18,400 Speaker 1: you know, like I'm talking like you know, uh, middle school. 2251 01:52:18,400 --> 01:52:20,880 Speaker 1: I actually probably maybe only middle school. But I guess 2252 01:52:20,880 --> 01:52:23,080 Speaker 1: I guess anyone you ask out is also someone well, 2253 01:52:23,120 --> 01:52:25,080 Speaker 1: like crush. A crush is kind of like a specific 2254 01:52:25,240 --> 01:52:28,240 Speaker 1: like yeah, specific, I guess like anyone, Yeah, anyone you 2255 01:52:28,280 --> 01:52:30,000 Speaker 1: ask out. That's kind of basically like you had a 2256 01:52:30,000 --> 01:52:32,240 Speaker 1: crush and then you're like, yo, what's it? Yes? But 2257 01:52:32,360 --> 01:52:34,400 Speaker 1: also it's like I feel like it's like like if 2258 01:52:34,400 --> 01:52:36,680 Speaker 1: you go up to someone, uh, you know, at like 2259 01:52:36,760 --> 01:52:39,960 Speaker 1: you know, uh house party, at a bar or even 2260 01:52:40,000 --> 01:52:42,280 Speaker 1: like Tinder, that's not really a crush because you haven't 2261 01:52:42,320 --> 01:52:44,479 Speaker 1: been able to like develop you know, some sort of 2262 01:52:44,600 --> 01:52:47,559 Speaker 1: like you know a little bit. Even though I like 2263 01:52:47,640 --> 01:52:49,800 Speaker 1: the idea, I think like I like, yeah, that's true. 2264 01:52:49,840 --> 01:52:51,880 Speaker 1: That's true. I do think though, one of the best 2265 01:52:51,880 --> 01:52:54,639 Speaker 1: ways to meet people is through friends or maybe through 2266 01:52:54,640 --> 01:52:57,160 Speaker 1: a friendship first. That is yeah. I feel like house 2267 01:52:57,200 --> 01:53:00,000 Speaker 1: parties of friends that you like really vibe with because 2268 01:53:00,000 --> 01:53:02,639 Speaker 1: because all of their mutuals are going to you know. Yeah, 2269 01:53:02,680 --> 01:53:05,439 Speaker 1: it's it's a filter right there, it's a filter right here, 2270 01:53:05,520 --> 01:53:07,040 Speaker 1: exactly exactly. 2271 01:53:07,200 --> 01:53:10,679 Speaker 2: I banned my homophobic grandma from my wedding. Now she's 2272 01:53:10,720 --> 01:53:15,120 Speaker 2: furious and still homophobic. Am I the l I'm getting married? 2273 01:53:15,240 --> 01:53:18,200 Speaker 2: And when I was on call with my grandmother seventy five, 2274 01:53:18,320 --> 01:53:21,080 Speaker 2: she was super excited to come, and I was excited 2275 01:53:21,080 --> 01:53:23,559 Speaker 2: to have her there. I'm her oldest grandchild, so we 2276 01:53:23,560 --> 01:53:26,240 Speaker 2: have a special relationship. But a few days ago she 2277 01:53:26,360 --> 01:53:29,080 Speaker 2: learned that my sister, my maid of honor, is gay 2278 01:53:29,240 --> 01:53:32,920 Speaker 2: and I invited her girlfriend. She was furious about the 2279 01:53:32,920 --> 01:53:35,040 Speaker 2: gay thing and told me that either I uninvite the 2280 01:53:35,080 --> 01:53:38,800 Speaker 2: girlfriend or she doesn't come. And I immediately said that 2281 01:53:38,920 --> 01:53:41,200 Speaker 2: if that's the way she thinks, I don't honor there. 2282 01:53:41,360 --> 01:53:44,040 Speaker 1: You gave me the option. Granny, you can't be mad 2283 01:53:44,040 --> 01:53:46,320 Speaker 1: at me. Now. Now my whole family is telling me 2284 01:53:46,400 --> 01:53:50,479 Speaker 1: to just uninvite the girlfriend and reinvite my grandma sounds bad, 2285 01:53:50,600 --> 01:53:53,800 Speaker 1: but I, my fiance, my sister, and a girlfriend live 2286 01:53:53,840 --> 01:53:56,000 Speaker 1: in one apartment now. They lost an apartment for twenty 2287 01:53:56,040 --> 01:53:59,240 Speaker 1: twenty reasons, and the girlfriend has basically been my roommate 2288 01:53:59,280 --> 01:54:02,240 Speaker 1: for six months. I'm very close to her, closer than 2289 01:54:02,240 --> 01:54:04,680 Speaker 1: my granny actually, and I really want her there. My 2290 01:54:04,800 --> 01:54:08,000 Speaker 1: family's opinion is that I'm the a hole. So there's 2291 01:54:08,000 --> 01:54:09,920 Speaker 1: a couple edits in an update. But before we get 2292 01:54:09,920 --> 01:54:12,160 Speaker 1: into that, John, what do you think is OP the 2293 01:54:12,240 --> 01:54:15,000 Speaker 1: a hole or not? Bro not at all, even if 2294 01:54:15,080 --> 01:54:18,439 Speaker 1: you want to side with the homophobic grandma when you shouldn't. 2295 01:54:18,680 --> 01:54:20,679 Speaker 1: This is Op's wedding. 2296 01:54:20,800 --> 01:54:24,080 Speaker 2: I'm Eastern European and homophobia is still very present here. 2297 01:54:24,200 --> 01:54:26,680 Speaker 2: That's why the family's okay with granny's behavior, even though 2298 01:54:26,680 --> 01:54:29,840 Speaker 2: they love my sister and tolerate her girlfriend. It's all 2299 01:54:30,000 --> 01:54:33,120 Speaker 2: around them, and at two I was never considering uninviting 2300 01:54:33,120 --> 01:54:35,400 Speaker 2: the girlfriend. The question is am I the hole for 2301 01:54:35,480 --> 01:54:38,480 Speaker 2: uninviting Grandma rather than letting her make the decision. And 2302 01:54:38,680 --> 01:54:41,480 Speaker 2: finally the updates. As many of you suggested, I told 2303 01:54:41,480 --> 01:54:43,960 Speaker 2: my sister and her girlfriend. My sister was mad that 2304 01:54:44,000 --> 01:54:46,560 Speaker 2: I didn't tell her sooner but we ended up agreeing 2305 01:54:46,600 --> 01:54:50,320 Speaker 2: that Grandma and one more relative actually are not invited 2306 01:54:50,480 --> 01:54:53,880 Speaker 2: and no way back turned out. Granny and especially the 2307 01:54:53,960 --> 01:54:57,640 Speaker 2: other relatives. We're bullying them on Facebook and other social media, 2308 01:54:57,720 --> 01:55:01,360 Speaker 2: but mostly Facebook, and we're outing them online. Apparently both 2309 01:55:01,360 --> 01:55:03,760 Speaker 2: have been messaging my sister to verbally abuse her since 2310 01:55:03,760 --> 01:55:05,440 Speaker 2: she came out, and she didn't want to tell me 2311 01:55:05,480 --> 01:55:07,520 Speaker 2: for the same reason I didn't tell her about the 2312 01:55:07,520 --> 01:55:08,160 Speaker 2: wedding stuff. 2313 01:55:08,200 --> 01:55:10,920 Speaker 1: So I'm no longer questioning who the here is. 2314 01:55:11,040 --> 01:55:13,520 Speaker 2: So I asked mods to stop the comments because my 2315 01:55:13,600 --> 01:55:15,440 Speaker 2: dumb has no idea how to do that. Thank you 2316 01:55:15,480 --> 01:55:18,400 Speaker 2: to everyone who believes my granny can change and I 2317 01:55:18,480 --> 01:55:21,400 Speaker 2: will keep trying with her after the wedding. 2318 01:55:21,600 --> 01:55:25,480 Speaker 1: Beer Beer, beer beer. Don't have to deal with the 2319 01:55:25,520 --> 01:55:27,680 Speaker 1: bs of having her at the wedding. And two you 2320 01:55:27,720 --> 01:55:31,040 Speaker 1: can still try to work with her, you know what 2321 01:55:31,080 --> 01:55:33,600 Speaker 1: I mean, to try and get her over like to 2322 01:55:33,680 --> 01:55:36,240 Speaker 1: see reason and stop being homophobic. 2323 01:55:36,320 --> 01:55:39,839 Speaker 2: Stop being homophobic. This is a PSA from Sama John. Yeah, 2324 01:55:39,880 --> 01:55:42,160 Speaker 2: stop it, look down, look down to your genitals. 2325 01:55:42,200 --> 01:55:42,480 Speaker 1: Bam. 2326 01:55:42,640 --> 01:55:46,200 Speaker 2: Those are the genitals on screens, right, embrace the genitals. 2327 01:55:46,320 --> 01:55:49,160 Speaker 1: Share your thoughts on this video. What would you do 2328 01:55:49,160 --> 01:55:49,760 Speaker 1: if you were an open