WEBVTT - Chicago Public School's Pro-COVID Lockout Part 1

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to it could happen here a podcast about things

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<v Speaker 1>falling apart, and today it's it's there, there's there's a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit and I'm getting put back together, but today

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<v Speaker 1>is mostly them falling apart. I'm your host, Christopher Wong.

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<v Speaker 1>With me, I have Lucy who is a teacher in

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<v Speaker 1>Chicago public schools and as part of the Teachers Union,

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<v Speaker 1>and today we're going to be talking about just the

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<v Speaker 1>absolute shit show that is being inflicted on teachers and

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<v Speaker 1>students in public schools. And Lucy, how how are you?

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<v Speaker 1>How are you doing? Um? You know, it's it's been

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<v Speaker 1>kind of weird, but all in all, I'm in good spirits.

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<v Speaker 1>I think my sisters and brothers and c to you

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<v Speaker 1>are in good spirits. So we're going to keep fighting

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<v Speaker 1>the good fight. Yeah. So, before before we fully start

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<v Speaker 1>to get into the teachers Union and Lord Lightfoot's fuckery,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to sort of get a bit of context

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<v Speaker 1>for people who don't live in Chicago or just don't

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<v Speaker 1>know much about the only politics because LORI, like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>if if you read sort of like media accounts of this,

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<v Speaker 1>like you, you, you you may be sort of misled

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<v Speaker 1>into into thinking that there's like even some semblance of

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<v Speaker 1>good faith going on here from Lord Lightfoot, and like

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<v Speaker 1>I just I just want to like do a great

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<v Speaker 1>like a Lord Lightfoot Greatest hits real for a second.

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<v Speaker 1>So Lightfoot like immediately after she got elected, like the

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<v Speaker 1>like the first thing she does is she she's she

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<v Speaker 1>literally she's like, Okay, there's too much crime on the subway.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna put swat teams on them. And so you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you just be on the red lighte and there's a

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<v Speaker 1>wat team and you know, because again this is what

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<v Speaker 1>happens when you put a swat team on the fucking subway.

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<v Speaker 1>They immediately shot a dude in the back for nothing,

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<v Speaker 1>you just literally no reason. They shot him in the back. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>So that that was like that was like like the

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<v Speaker 1>first like few weeks of Lightfoot. And then during the uprising,

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<v Speaker 1>she like she she turned the rich party of Chicago

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<v Speaker 1>and she's like a medieval castle like she like like

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<v Speaker 1>like raised all the drawbridges into the middle of the

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<v Speaker 1>city so that no one could get into central part

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<v Speaker 1>of the city. It was like awful. And then you

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<v Speaker 1>know then as as as we sort of like there

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<v Speaker 1>there's more and more sort of bad lightfoot stuff. Most recently,

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<v Speaker 1>so Chicago got a bunch of aid money from the

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<v Speaker 1>federal government and she spent two and one million dollars

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<v Speaker 1>of it paying the police, not the schools. Yeah, nope.

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<v Speaker 1>And CPD like these Again, I think I talked about

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<v Speaker 1>this before, but like when when the CIA was like

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<v Speaker 1>our initial torturing program failed, where do we go to

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<v Speaker 1>like find people who know how to torture? They brought

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<v Speaker 1>into Chicago Police Detective like and you know, and and

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<v Speaker 1>this is the the CPD, Like like like there's there's two

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<v Speaker 1>half a CPD. Right, there's there's like the torture CPD.

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<v Speaker 1>And then related to them but not necessarily identical is

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<v Speaker 1>the part of the CPD that's just a cartel. Like there,

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<v Speaker 1>there's there's a thing in in at the beginning of

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<v Speaker 1>the tens were like it turned out that like the

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<v Speaker 1>almost like the huge parts of the CPD were literally

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<v Speaker 1>just a cartel. They're running drugs. They were just like

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<v Speaker 1>doing shakedown for and and like one person total, like

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<v Speaker 1>you got arrested by the FBI for and everyone else

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<v Speaker 1>is just still there. It's great, it's a it's a

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<v Speaker 1>time so that this is this is who Lorrie Lightfoot is, um,

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<v Speaker 1>she sucks. Like everyone hates her like like her. The

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<v Speaker 1>people who should be her political allies hate her. Like

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<v Speaker 1>Chicago Chargo got like a police reform bill, and the

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<v Speaker 1>reason it was like a very mild one. But the

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<v Speaker 1>reason it happened was just that, like like the like

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<v Speaker 1>the Alderman passed it out of just pure spite because

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<v Speaker 1>of how much they don't like Lightfoot. So this is

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<v Speaker 1>this is the this has been My Christopher shouts that

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<v Speaker 1>Lord Lightfoot intruded this. But yeah, Needles is say, Lightfoot

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<v Speaker 1>not acting in good faith, just absolutely batman villain. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's incredible. No, actually that's not fair because a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of Batman villains are kind of right. Yeah, yeah, she she's, she's, she's.

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<v Speaker 1>She's like the nightmare refusion of like Batman and a

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<v Speaker 1>Batman villain, Like what if what if you like the

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<v Speaker 1>worst aspects of both and made them The Mayor's Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I've been kind of Um so I moved here almost

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<v Speaker 1>a year ago from a smaller city, and I did

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<v Speaker 1>not like the mayor in my city, and he really

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<v Speaker 1>was a big fan of like the Lory light Foot playbook.

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<v Speaker 1>But um, I guess people weren't as politically involved there,

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<v Speaker 1>and my first week working in Chicago Public schools UM,

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<v Speaker 1>somebody mentioned the mayor mentioned Laurie, and everybody kind of groaned,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like, oh, you don't like her, you

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<v Speaker 1>don't like your mayor, And I mean I knew they didn't,

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<v Speaker 1>but I was just kind of testing the waters. And

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<v Speaker 1>this lady looks at me and goes, we hate her.

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<v Speaker 1>I swear, like, if you mentioned her name in this city,

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<v Speaker 1>people practically spit on the ground. It's like, it's amazing

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<v Speaker 1>because like you mentioned a demon. Yeah, it's like like

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<v Speaker 1>Chicago to cogunitoriously, we all hate our politicians. But like Lightfoot,

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<v Speaker 1>like like that there were you would find rama Manuel

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<v Speaker 1>supporters right, Like I don't know a single lord like

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<v Speaker 1>outside of the schools, within the schools, everyone I know.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like even even the even the cops don't like her,

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<v Speaker 1>Like she keeps she keeps funneling hundreds of billions of

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<v Speaker 1>dollars into them, and they still don't like her. It's like,

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<v Speaker 1>it's incredible. Do you unite the teachers union and the

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<v Speaker 1>police union one something that's the only thing that they've

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<v Speaker 1>ever agreed on is fuck Lory Lightfoot it's really incredible.

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<v Speaker 1>So life, whatoot's latest scheme? Um, yeah, do you want

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<v Speaker 1>to explain? I guess go back a little bit in

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<v Speaker 1>in into the history of sort of how how Chicago

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<v Speaker 1>and Chicago Public schools have kind of been responding to

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<v Speaker 1>COVID and then how they just did this stuff, and yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess, like, yeah, give us a background, like what's

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<v Speaker 1>going on. Well, I'm going to preface with two things. One,

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<v Speaker 1>I am fairly new here, so I don't know all

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<v Speaker 1>of the details. And two, I really want to emphasize

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<v Speaker 1>that I'm just here talking for myself. I don't represent

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<v Speaker 1>CTU in any way. This is just I wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about my feelings on things. So, UM, what I

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<v Speaker 1>do know is they were doing remote learning, and when

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<v Speaker 1>I arrived here in March, we were fully remote and UM.

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<v Speaker 1>Then in the fourth marketing period, so like around like

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<v Speaker 1>after spring break, UM, we moved to a hybrid model.

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<v Speaker 1>So we had parents and kids could like choose if

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<v Speaker 1>they wanted to stay online or if they wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>be in person. UM. I think like sixty percent or

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<v Speaker 1>more depending on what school UM chose the online option.

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<v Speaker 1>Like a lot of parents just were not comfortable putting

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<v Speaker 1>their kids in UM. I know that there's been like

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<v Speaker 1>a ton of talk about UM, you know, like the

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<v Speaker 1>most economically disadvantaged families need the schools open, But it's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of been the reverse. It's been the people who

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<v Speaker 1>have UM more means are more interested in opening, and

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<v Speaker 1>people who UH are less well off are a little

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<v Speaker 1>more resistant to it. I mean, that's not the same

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<v Speaker 1>across the board. I don't want to generalize too much,

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<v Speaker 1>but that's been what I've seen UM. I think, if

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<v Speaker 1>I had to guess it, there's a lot of history

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<v Speaker 1>behind that, Like UM. I mean, first of all, just

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<v Speaker 1>can your family afford an illness like this? And people

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<v Speaker 1>living in multi general generational households. And I think something

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<v Speaker 1>that CPS and our government in general really fail to

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<v Speaker 1>acknowledge is just how how much mistrust there is between

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<v Speaker 1>government institutions, public schools, and UM people of color and

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<v Speaker 1>for a good reason. You know, they have been repeatedly

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<v Speaker 1>just screwed over by these institutions. And I can absolutely

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<v Speaker 1>understand why they might not trust a school district that says, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll keep your kids safe, because they weren't doing it

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<v Speaker 1>before the pandemic. UM. So we had I had like

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<v Speaker 1>seven kids in one of my classes and like ten

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<v Speaker 1>and another and then the rest of them were online.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm like sitting at a computer teaching to the

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<v Speaker 1>kids online and to the kids in their room. All

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<v Speaker 1>the kids in the room are on their computers too,

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<v Speaker 1>so that we can like still be like one cohesive class. UM.

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<v Speaker 1>It was hard, and it was like kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>mentally fatiguing, like just going back and forth like that.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, we made it work. I was kind

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<v Speaker 1>of I was really proud of us, Like we made

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<v Speaker 1>it work. We made it happen. We stayed in contact

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<v Speaker 1>with the families and the kids constantly UM and like

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<v Speaker 1>as things moved on and as numbers started going down,

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<v Speaker 1>more people started warning their kids back UM. And then

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<v Speaker 1>after spring they UM well, so like after springbreak they

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<v Speaker 1>let people come back. And then as we moved towards

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<v Speaker 1>on our more and more kids were coming back. Which

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<v Speaker 1>it was the school I was in was UM handling

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<v Speaker 1>it very well. Our principle was really committed to like

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<v Speaker 1>keeping us safe. So there was UM testing. Like once

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<v Speaker 1>a week somebody would come bay and be like, yo,

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<v Speaker 1>go get your COVID test. UM. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>kids were being tested, but I know teachers were. UM.

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<v Speaker 1>Then summer happens. I ended up in a different school

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<v Speaker 1>in the Austin neighborhood, which is um a lot less

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<v Speaker 1>advantage than the one that I had been working in,

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<v Speaker 1>and we open back up fully in person no remote

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<v Speaker 1>option like at all, like if UM. The only people

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<v Speaker 1>who could get remote were kids that were deemed medically fragile,

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<v Speaker 1>but they had to one submit like tons of paperwork

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<v Speaker 1>to prove that and to their siblings could not stay removed.

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<v Speaker 1>So at that point, it's like, why, what's the point?

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<v Speaker 1>And if you were a teacher who had a medically

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<v Speaker 1>fragile child in the schools, your kid could be remote,

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<v Speaker 1>but you couldn't, So then you know, how is that

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<v Speaker 1>going to work? UM? And I found in the school

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<v Speaker 1>where I was. You know, this is the issue with

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<v Speaker 1>Chicago and with you know, most of the country is

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<v Speaker 1>some schools have more resources than others. And the school

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't know where to get tested. Nobody like told me.

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<v Speaker 1>I think there was some kind of testing program, not sure,

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<v Speaker 1>definitely nothing for students. UM. I've since moved to a

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<v Speaker 1>high school that has more resources, but still I have

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<v Speaker 1>not been able to figure out where the heck to

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<v Speaker 1>get testing, which has been one of the biggest things

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<v Speaker 1>that uh CTU is asking for is we want um

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<v Speaker 1>opt out testing instead of opt in testing, so you

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<v Speaker 1>would automatically be registered to test, and if you didn't

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<v Speaker 1>want to test, then you would have to opt out,

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<v Speaker 1>which would end up with far more people getting tested

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<v Speaker 1>and make it a lot easier, because I mean a

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<v Speaker 1>big part of why people are in signing up is

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<v Speaker 1>it's really hard, like I don't know where to find

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<v Speaker 1>it that everyone's like it's in your emails somewhere. I've

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<v Speaker 1>searched my email. I don't know, Like we get like

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<v Speaker 1>emails a day, like yeah, and it's yeah, Like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I think anyone anyone who remembers what being in a

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<v Speaker 1>school is like those they have, I mean, just the

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<v Speaker 1>absolute worst bureaucratic stuff, Like it's it's it's it's like honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>like it's like my experiences with like academia and like

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<v Speaker 1>even back in the high school, like their tech stuff

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<v Speaker 1>was like worse than corporate sex stuff, which is like

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<v Speaker 1>astounding mm hmm, it's it's ridiculous. Do you want to

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<v Speaker 1>jump into here into Lightfoot's like okay, Lightfoot has like

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<v Speaker 1>invented a new kind of COVID denialism, which she's like

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<v Speaker 1>she she's now turned into like a COVID test nihilist,

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<v Speaker 1>like it's incredible, like she she she has. She went

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<v Speaker 1>on this rant about how like COVID testing is a

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<v Speaker 1>quote quasi medical procedure and how you're gonna get lost,

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<v Speaker 1>like it's it's bizarre. So this this journalist asked her

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<v Speaker 1>about the testing because and I don't know which journalist

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<v Speaker 1>that was, but I want to thank them so much

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<v Speaker 1>because they have seen a lot of the reporters are

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<v Speaker 1>actually out there trying to keep c t US demands

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<v Speaker 1>in the conversation as opposed to this like whole oh

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<v Speaker 1>lazy teachers don't want to work like off, we do

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<v Speaker 1>want to be working. Um. But so I almost thought

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<v Speaker 1>that she had like mixed up with this person said,

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<v Speaker 1>and thought that they were talking about vaccines. But even so,

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<v Speaker 1>like stop it, stop, just stop doing that. But who

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<v Speaker 1>is having a reaction to a COVID test. It's like

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<v Speaker 1>literally a cute tip, like like you just sticking. They

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<v Speaker 1>don't even stick it that far up your nose anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>They just do a little in your nostril or like

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<v Speaker 1>a mouth swat. Yeah. Like actually like as someone who

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<v Speaker 1>had like like I genuinely did have a kind of

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<v Speaker 1>bad reaction because I jabbed it up really far and

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<v Speaker 1>like I was like sneezing a lot afterwards. But it's like, oh, no,

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<v Speaker 1>you sneezed a little bit, Like what what does it

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<v Speaker 1>even mean? Like not like I feel like people are

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<v Speaker 1>acting like this test is like this weird new technology

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<v Speaker 1>it is. It isn't Like right before the pandemic, like

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of months before I had the flu and

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<v Speaker 1>I had exactly the same kind of test. They stunned

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<v Speaker 1>a thing up my nose. It was hella uncomfortable. Um

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<v Speaker 1>it took like two seconds. They stuck it on a

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<v Speaker 1>little plastic thing. I'm a bob and said, oh, looks

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<v Speaker 1>like you have the flu. Yeah, it's I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>where this is coming from. I think it's just she

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<v Speaker 1>is not a very charismatic person, and she's not someone

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<v Speaker 1>who does well under pressure. And right now she's back

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<v Speaker 1>into a corner and she's acting out and it's been

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<v Speaker 1>kind of wild, like I've seen she's she's also throwing

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<v Speaker 1>other people around her under the pots. Yeah, like she

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<v Speaker 1>says something about Pedro Martinez, like she says, the teachers

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<v Speaker 1>aren't in charge of this. Padre Martinez is in charge.

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<v Speaker 1>She's the CEO. And I'm like, okay, so you're being

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<v Speaker 1>this is setting him up to take the blame on this.

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<v Speaker 1>Everything that you tweeted about like it was she was like, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>it's actually the Mayor's and nothing. Sorry, it's it's actually

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<v Speaker 1>the Uh, it's the principles. The principles were like no, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>So CPS is kind of interesting. Um, this can be

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<v Speaker 1>really good or really bad, depending on what's school you're in,

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<v Speaker 1>but the principles really have a lot of autonomy over

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<v Speaker 1>their school. Um. I've now been in two schools where

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<v Speaker 1>that's worked out great. My principal rocks. Um, if she

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<v Speaker 1>ever hears this, I hope she knows that I said that.

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<v Speaker 1>I think she's great. Um. Also, the principle I worked

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<v Speaker 1>at the beginning of school year was awful. Um. So,

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<v Speaker 1>but when it comes to like district wide protocols, like

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<v Speaker 1>that's district wide and so CPS apparently had a meeting

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<v Speaker 1>with principles where um, I heard some rumors about this too,

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<v Speaker 1>but I also saw that letter that they had posted. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>the principles are one really frustrated because CPS isn't communicating

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<v Speaker 1>stuff with them very effectively, and so parents will be

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<v Speaker 1>calling like do we have school tomorrow? And they don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>but CTU knows, and it's telling their members. So the

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<v Speaker 1>teachers all know the like more answers than the principles do,

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<v Speaker 1>which is obviously really embarrassing if you're supposed to be

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<v Speaker 1>in charge. Um. And then there they were told in

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<v Speaker 1>this meeting with CPS, school's gonna be closed on Friday. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>school's closed on ready, Great, sounds good. And then Lightfoot

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<v Speaker 1>gets on the dang news and tells everybody that it

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<v Speaker 1>will be done on a school by school pap basis

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<v Speaker 1>at principles discretion, depending on if they have staff. So

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<v Speaker 1>now all of these principles who had already told their

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<v Speaker 1>students and families that, um, we're closing, look like they're

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<v Speaker 1>the ones who closed it as opposed. Like and that's

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<v Speaker 1>it is rare for me to feel bad for a

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<v Speaker 1>school principle, because that's that's my boss. You know, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't us, but I feel bad for them right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, Like you're just trying to like make

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<v Speaker 1>sure that people have the information they need in a

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<v Speaker 1>timely manner, and this lady is up here making you

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<v Speaker 1>look like a monster. It's so unfair. Yeah, should we

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<v Speaker 1>talk about what's been happening up to the pastor of

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<v Speaker 1>winter break and then the stuff that's happening now, because

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<v Speaker 1>it's very grim and bad. Yeah. So a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>schools have been having COVID cases. Um, there's I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>really sure what's going on with cps IS data. It

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<v Speaker 1>kind of seems like they're not reporting it very faithfully

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<v Speaker 1>or accurately. Like if you look at their tracker, they'll

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<v Speaker 1>be cases and then suddenly they'll be gone. Um. We

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<v Speaker 1>never really get a hard number ever. Like will be

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<v Speaker 1>like if you have a student in your class who

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<v Speaker 1>has been quarantined and we all know what it is,

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<v Speaker 1>but they don't say it. They'll be like, um, you know, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>Johnny will be out for the next x amount of

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<v Speaker 1>time due to health reasons. Please let him join via

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<v Speaker 1>Google Meet And they never do. That's the other annoying

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<v Speaker 1>thing is like the students, I think because they are

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<v Speaker 1>either close contact or they're sick, um, you know, to them,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like a a break almost like they're not going

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<v Speaker 1>to log in randomly, Like it's it's just with I

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<v Speaker 1>think with kids, like once it stops being consistent and

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<v Speaker 1>it's like back and forth all the time, it becomes

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<v Speaker 1>very difficult for them to stay motivated because they're out

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<v Speaker 1>of their routine. Like I I sometimes hate it when

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<v Speaker 1>people say this, but it is kind of true. Kids

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<v Speaker 1>kind of thrive on routine. Um. So at this point

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<v Speaker 1>now I have like a third of my class at

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<v Speaker 1>any given moment will just not be there and it

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<v Speaker 1>will be different third of the class every you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it kind of like rolls through. So all of my

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<v Speaker 1>students are like different points in the curriculum. It's hard

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<v Speaker 1>to like know what to teach each day because I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know who needs what. It's hard to reach out

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<v Speaker 1>to the kids that are at home and make sure

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<v Speaker 1>that they get what they need because I'm so busy

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<v Speaker 1>trying to catch these kids up and move these kids

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<v Speaker 1>on and all that stuff, um, which I have seen

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<v Speaker 1>some research. I'll see if I can find it, um

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<v Speaker 1>after we're done. The like pointing out that like remote

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<v Speaker 1>learning isn't the worst thing that can happen. The worst

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<v Speaker 1>thing that can happen is just flipping back and forth

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<v Speaker 1>all the time and having huge numbers of kids absent

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<v Speaker 1>from in person learning. UM So we go on break

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<v Speaker 1>and obviously we have o macron like sweeping through the country,

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<v Speaker 1>and we all knew that they were going to be spikes,

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<v Speaker 1>Like we knew that in Chicago had what was if

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<v Speaker 1>Illinois had some like astronomically high number of new COVID

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<v Speaker 1>cases like breaking records all over the place. UM CPS

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<v Speaker 1>has had huge increases. Yesterday we had forty three four

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<v Speaker 1>cases in Illinois. It's that's a lot, like yeah, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so overbreak like the last like, the Union had been

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<v Speaker 1>trying has been trying forever to get CPS to come

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<v Speaker 1>in and agree to UM a few things. So one

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<v Speaker 1>in February we had a um an agreement that schools

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<v Speaker 1>would flip to remote if they reached a certain threshold.

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<v Speaker 1>That agreement has expired and CPS has refused to come

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<v Speaker 1>to the bargaining table and negotiate a new one. They're

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<v Speaker 1>just like, no, we don't need it. We also have

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<v Speaker 1>been trying to get them to do the opt out

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<v Speaker 1>testing and a like surveillance testing programing in school so

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<v Speaker 1>we can kind of just have little bits of data

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<v Speaker 1>to understand like where are these cases. CPS doesn't want

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<v Speaker 1>to do this. They don't want a threshold for flipping

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<v Speaker 1>to remote because then they would have to flip to remote,

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<v Speaker 1>and they don't want the surveillance testing because then they

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<v Speaker 1>would have to flip to remote, and they just don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to flip to remote. Um. So finally over break,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it kind of came to a head, like

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<v Speaker 1>they were still refusing to negotiate, like, um, one of

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<v Speaker 1>the union delegates in my building said something about, um,

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<v Speaker 1>they've been meeting by to these meetings, like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like twice a week. They try to get these meetings

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<v Speaker 1>to happen, and the mayor never comes and the CEO

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<v Speaker 1>never comes, like they will either send lawyers or they

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<v Speaker 1>don't show up. And it's like, dude sounded so tired

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<v Speaker 1>into moralize when he said that, I felt bad for him. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>but yeah, So we voted that we were going to

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<v Speaker 1>go in on Monday and Tuesday meet with our safety committees,

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<v Speaker 1>get a feel for what's going on in school, and

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<v Speaker 1>then we are going to have a vote on Tuesday

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<v Speaker 1>night as to whether or not we will do a

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<v Speaker 1>remote work action on Wednesday. And I know a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people have been like trying to make it sound

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<v Speaker 1>like this was very sudden, but it absolutely wasn't. Like

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<v Speaker 1>we had a vote about whether or not we were

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<v Speaker 1>interested in doing this, and then we had a vote

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<v Speaker 1>on whether we're still interested on having a vote, and

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<v Speaker 1>then we had the vote, and the delicates voted on

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<v Speaker 1>if they wanted to hold an official like should we

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<v Speaker 1>do an act and vote? We did. Um, it was

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<v Speaker 1>like seventy voted yes. Um. There were some complaints that

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<v Speaker 1>some people didn't get their ballots, but they did wait

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<v Speaker 1>till they had enough yes votes to preach that to

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<v Speaker 1>third majority that we needed. So, you know, c TU

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<v Speaker 1>has every step of the way really been making sure, um,

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<v Speaker 1>this is actually what we want. This isn't just like

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<v Speaker 1>unilateral things like Lorie keeps throwing that work unilateral around.

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<v Speaker 1>It wasn't unilateral. It was like, at least two there's

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<v Speaker 1>the teachers in this district said I don't feel safe

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<v Speaker 1>at school. There's not enough staff in the building right

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<v Speaker 1>now to even teach half my kids. A third of

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<v Speaker 1>my kids are out. This isn't working. So yeah, so

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<v Speaker 1>we voted that we're going to stay home and work

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<v Speaker 1>remotely and then we got locked out. Yeah, which again

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<v Speaker 1>like and I want to almost refocus on this for

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<v Speaker 1>a second because even a lot of people who are

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<v Speaker 1>sympathetic to to to the re unions on Twitter, you

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<v Speaker 1>see this a lot, they'll they'll be like the CTU

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<v Speaker 1>went on strike. It's like, no, they didn't like teachers

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<v Speaker 1>and teachers are not on strike. The teachers are attempting

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<v Speaker 1>to work from home and school district will not let them. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's every morning I get up at six thirty,

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<v Speaker 1>I make my coffee, and I sit down and I

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<v Speaker 1>try to log in, and I know I won't be

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<v Speaker 1>able to, but I do it anyway. Um. Thankfully, I

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<v Speaker 1>had thought to download as much of my materials as

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<v Speaker 1>I could prior to this, only my personal device, so

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<v Speaker 1>I am still able to create lesson lands, been making

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<v Speaker 1>some very cool social study slides. I'm I'm so sure

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<v Speaker 1>that my students are gonna love lots of cool assignments

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<v Speaker 1>for them to do. To um. But yeah, like, this

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<v Speaker 1>is a lockout. And Glory keeps starting this word like

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<v Speaker 1>illegal work stoppage around. It's not a work stoppage. We

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<v Speaker 1>are actively working. She has illegally. It is in our contract.

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<v Speaker 1>That she can't lock us out, and she did so.

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<v Speaker 1>So at everyone's doing each other and saying illegal. But

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<v Speaker 1>I know which side is right? Yeah, yeah, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>I I am not an en normal perspector of the law,

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<v Speaker 1>but like this is this is both. This is one

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<v Speaker 1>of the rare occasions where the thing that is happening

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<v Speaker 1>is both illegal and also just wrong. The reporting on

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<v Speaker 1>this just has not gotten the actual fundamental thing which

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<v Speaker 1>is happening here, which is a lockout. And it's enormously

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<v Speaker 1>frustrating a lot of ways because you know, and i'd

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<v Speaker 1>say this, okay, so like local media reporting has been

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<v Speaker 1>a lot better, but any like any national coverage has

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<v Speaker 1>just I've seen it's just been like, yeah, it's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be it. For part one of this interview, come back

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