Speaker 1: Native Land Pod is a production of iHeartRadio in partnership
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Speaker 2: Welcome Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome.
Speaker 1: Welcome, Welcome Home, Everybody. It is another edition of Native
Speaker 1: Landpod where I am your host, Angela Riah. Especially for
Speaker 1: the solo pods, I'm missing my dear co hosts and
Speaker 1: sister and brother Tiffany and Andrew. But today we're going
Speaker 1: to get into something that is near and dear to
Speaker 1: the hearts of many. You know, right now we are
Speaker 1: facing trouble really on every side, and as we face
Speaker 1: that trouble, we have to hold on to hope.
Speaker 2: We're trying to hold onto.
Speaker 1: Hope in an era that has tried diligently and violently
Speaker 1: to erase us black culture, black books, black art, black people.
Speaker 1: And in the middle of that erasure, there is still
Speaker 1: a fight that continues.
Speaker 2: Again.
Speaker 1: You know that we've been on our State of the
Speaker 1: People Power tour, and on that tour, we've seen just
Speaker 1: how much it is important that black people have relief,
Speaker 1: that we work together to find those points of relief,
Speaker 1: and that we also work together to shape, to develop,
Speaker 1: and to strategize around policy. One thing that black folks
Speaker 1: have been arguing for for a really really long time,
Speaker 1: really since before emancipation in this country is reparations. I
Speaker 1: often reference HR forty, which was first introduced in the
Speaker 1: House of Representatives by Congressman John Conyers, who was one
Speaker 1: of our former Congressional Black Caucus bosses. He began introducing
Speaker 1: reparations legislation in nineteen eighty six. I believe he introduced
Speaker 1: the first bill, and he would introduce that reparations bill
Speaker 1: that just called for this study of reparations every single Congress.
Speaker 1: And then when Congressman Conyers passed away, Congressman Sheila Jackson
Speaker 1: Lee from Houston, Texas picked up that mantle. And when
Speaker 1: Congresswoman Jackson Lee passed away, Congresswoman Ayana Presley has now
Speaker 1: picked up that mantle.
Speaker 2: But there's also some folks who are.
Speaker 1: Doing this work every single day in the streets, in
Speaker 1: the halls of state legislatures at the city level, and
Speaker 1: that also includes faith leaders. So today I'm thrilled to
Speaker 1: present to you all pastor. His name is Reverend doctor
Speaker 1: Robert Richard Allen Turner. And for the ammes among us,
Speaker 1: y'all understand that Richard Allen in the middle means a
Speaker 1: lot and the Robert Turner at the ends, on the
Speaker 1: front end, the at the end is making history himself.
Speaker 1: So let's bring Robert Richard Allen Turner to the stage,
Speaker 1: to the podcast stage.
Speaker 3: How you doing, pastor Hey, hey, hey, I'm all right,
Speaker 3: just trying to recover.
Speaker 2: Yes, so I'm high energy. He is not.
Speaker 1: And let's tell the people why you're not. You have
Speaker 1: taken a long journey in the fight for reparations, engaging
Speaker 1: in a practice that many of us are familiar with
Speaker 1: but don't always implement ourselves. You have taken the time
Speaker 1: to walk for reparations thirty three times. You have walked
Speaker 1: over fourteen hundred miles for reparations, and I want to
Speaker 1: know why. What is the point of that protest and
Speaker 1: why do you see that as your most effective effort
Speaker 1: to get reparations across the finish line nationally.
Speaker 3: First, thank you, dear Sister Angela for having me on
Speaker 3: your show. I've been a huge fan of your work
Speaker 3: for a long time. I am now the day after
Speaker 3: my walk, and I have done it, as you said,
Speaker 3: thirty three times, and the reason being, as a good
Speaker 3: clergy colleague friend of mine, William Lamar calls it the
Speaker 3: piteoprophetic ministry and witness that we see so pronounced in
Speaker 3: the Old Testament, when people of faith exercise their faith
Speaker 3: and become a witness by walking by marching. We saw
Speaker 3: it first and foremost when the Israelites marched out of
Speaker 3: Egypt and they got reparations on that way out. We
Speaker 3: saw it also before the Battle of Jericho, when Joshua
Speaker 3: led the Israelites around the walls of Jericho. It's something
Speaker 3: said when you can participate in God's divine plan of
Speaker 3: liberation by showing your testament, it's almost like a military march,
Speaker 3: but we're not doing the physical fighting. We're showing by
Speaker 3: our marching that we are believing that God is doing it.
Speaker 3: So they're also more or less like pilgrimage as well
Speaker 3: for me, because it's a time for spiritual and renewal
Speaker 3: and repair as I become a public witness to this
Speaker 3: nation on her need to repent and to repair from
Speaker 3: the worst forms of enslavement and the worst forms of
Speaker 3: Jim Crow and the worst forms of white supremacy.
Speaker 4: That this word is scene.
Speaker 1: So for the listener, you've walked our march thirty three times.
Speaker 2: Where was the first march held.
Speaker 3: It was the same spot I start every March from
Speaker 3: Carroll Park in Baltimore, Maryland on it's Route one, but
Speaker 3: it's also Washington Boulevard. And just ironically enough, John Carroll
Speaker 3: Park is named for John Carroll, who was and in
Speaker 3: Slaver And in fact, the park where I started was
Speaker 3: the site of his plantation.
Speaker 4: You know who would have thought, which is.
Speaker 3: Now a public park in Baltimore, Maryland. And I've done
Speaker 3: actually thirty two of these walks from Baltimore to the
Speaker 3: White House. One of my thirty three was from Selma
Speaker 3: to Montgomery, the same route that doctor King took. That's
Speaker 3: actually fifty four miles. Doctor King did it in five days.
Speaker 3: I didn't have enough good since I did it in
Speaker 3: twenty hours, and that almost killed me. The back rolls
Speaker 3: of Alabama, I mean pitched. I started at three am
Speaker 3: in the morning. I took a four hour break to
Speaker 3: go speak out a rally in Montgomery, then had to
Speaker 3: drive back to where I stopped, and I didn't finish
Speaker 3: till like three the next day. So yeah, that was
Speaker 3: a lot. I started three twenty six am in the morning,
Speaker 3: finished three am the next day. But the other walks,
Speaker 3: the other thirty two have been from Baltimore to the
Speaker 3: White House, and now the last two or three walks
Speaker 3: I've done, I've ended at the Smithsonian to highlight joining
Speaker 3: the call from dear brother Oldest Masster third and trying
Speaker 3: to encourage people to join the Smithsonian, the African American
Speaker 3: Smithsonian also aka Blacksnian, to increase their membership numbers of
Speaker 3: black folks to show the federal government, because I think
Speaker 3: right now their budget is sixty two percent from the
Speaker 3: federal government. We're trying to make which we're trying to
Speaker 3: help alleviate their alliance upon the federal government to increase
Speaker 3: encourage folks to become individual members that range as low
Speaker 3: as twenty five dollars to one thousand dollars.
Speaker 1: That's an easy call to action on this program. Make
Speaker 1: sure y'all join the Black Sonian so we can keep
Speaker 1: hope alive in the museum open without being under threat.
Speaker 1: I want to ask you, so the distance from Carroll Park,
Speaker 1: Maryland to the White House is how many.
Speaker 4: Miles forty two nine?
Speaker 2: Can you call this like?
Speaker 1: Basically they're a forty for forty so it's forty miles
Speaker 1: for forty acres. Okay, that's right, Okay, And so when
Speaker 1: you consider now that you're marching essentially out of Baltimore, Maryland,
Speaker 1: which is a power of a power center for black folks,
Speaker 1: for black political power, for everything that you know the
Speaker 1: city has meant to us in our history, and you're
Speaker 1: going into a bastion of white supremacist ideology and fascism. Now,
Speaker 1: of course you started these when Joe Biden was in office,
Speaker 1: but now this is meaning something very different.
Speaker 2: So you're essentially.
Speaker 1: Bringing the spirit of black political power into a place
Speaker 1: that is now compromised by fascism. How does it feel
Speaker 1: now to be walking under that type of oppressive energy.
Speaker 3: Really, it's totally different. The energy is immensely different. My
Speaker 3: first walk on the Trump was literally the Death is inauguration,
Speaker 3: Doctor King's Holiday, he had his inauguration on the same day,
Speaker 3: and going into d C with all these magas, I
Speaker 3: mean maga folks there, it was just it was a
Speaker 3: lot to deal with.
Speaker 4: It was a lot to.
Speaker 3: See, and I was it was first I was freezing coal,
Speaker 3: freezing cold on Doctor King's holiday.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 3: And then all the maga folks were there, the Proud boys,
Speaker 3: and I'm the only black man, uh in the sea
Speaker 3: of all these folks. Then my phone battery dies and
Speaker 3: because of the barcase, my escort could not accompany me.
Speaker 3: So I heard some of the worst vitriolic language you
Speaker 3: could ever imagine. Well you probably could imagine because you've
Speaker 3: been doing this thing for a while that that I
Speaker 3: could have ever imagined hearing in my life from from
Speaker 3: from from white people.
Speaker 4: And uh, just the whole setup now of DC.
Speaker 3: Like last night, Uh my walk, I was at first
Speaker 3: unable to make it to the fence of the White
Speaker 3: House because the president since everything's been going on, I
Speaker 3: guess in California, Uh, his attack on on immigrants, it's
Speaker 3: all barricaded off like it's his his.
Speaker 4: The White House is completely barricaded off.
Speaker 3: It looks like, you know, we're preparing for a militia
Speaker 3: martial law, and just a vibe and the tone. Uh,
Speaker 3: it's just it's markedly different from when President Biden was
Speaker 3: in office.
Speaker 4: It's just not a good look.
Speaker 3: It looks very much so like a dictatorship or when
Speaker 3: I went when I go to foreign countries and and
Speaker 3: and go to authoritarian places to see how how barricaded
Speaker 3: things are. It's just not what you would expect from
Speaker 3: what's supposed to be the freest country.
Speaker 2: In the world.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, and yet we hear we are living in
Speaker 1: this conundrum. I want to ask you to Pastor. I
Speaker 1: know there's got to be some folks who are listening
Speaker 1: for me growing up with my dad who is a marcher,
Speaker 1: especially around Doctor King's Day, which, of course you just referenced,
Speaker 1: five miles was a lot for a little kid. I
Speaker 1: would be like at the end, be like, y'all gonna
Speaker 1: have to put me in the back of this Seattle
Speaker 1: medium van and ride me the rest of the way
Speaker 1: or something got to pick me up.
Speaker 2: My feet hurt.
Speaker 1: So I want to know how you prepare for this
Speaker 1: and monthly at that. So how do you prepare for.
Speaker 2: Doing these doing these marches?
Speaker 3: It really depends on the time of the year. So
Speaker 3: my winter marches are a lot different. They are a lot
Speaker 3: My winter marches are a lot more dangerous because the
Speaker 3: weather here in Baltimore, such as Seattle.
Speaker 4: Probably not as cold a Seattle, honestly, but it is.
Speaker 1: It's cold in Baltimore, Maryland in the winter. Oh yes,
Speaker 1: I remember DC. There was a DC day I had
Speaker 1: and it was I got back in my car it
Speaker 1: said eighteen degrees and I said, the devil is a liar.
Speaker 1: It was so cold it was burning, you understand, Like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't understand that type of called.
Speaker 2: I didn't come from that.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So when I'm preparing for a winter march which is
Speaker 3: freezing like and I'm from Alabama, if you can't tell
Speaker 3: with my accent, I'm from Tuskey, Alabama. My parents mart
Speaker 3: that of school, and it is really I'm not built
Speaker 3: for this type of coldther at all.
Speaker 4: And so my my winter march is.
Speaker 3: I have to make sure that I layer up a lot,
Speaker 3: and I have to make sure that I eat a
Speaker 3: lot of food before my walks, because you really need
Speaker 3: to pack on carbs the day before you walk, and
Speaker 3: of course try to rest my legs. But I'm just
Speaker 3: not I'm not built for this. I'm six foot six,
Speaker 3: two hundred pounds, and I'm just my body is not
Speaker 3: built for these walks.
Speaker 4: It's just not. I just these are all labors of love.
Speaker 3: The winter walks, I don't have to eat as much,
Speaker 3: but I have to drink a lot more fluid like.
Speaker 2: I have to summer March.
Speaker 3: Yeah something sorry, Yeah, my summer, my summer warm month,
Speaker 3: March is I have to make sure I stay hydrated
Speaker 3: because I've almost fallen out. But the problem is the
Speaker 3: more you drink, obviously it has to come out. So
Speaker 3: when you're drinking a lot of water, you're going to
Speaker 3: stop like every two or three minutes. So my summer walks,
Speaker 3: although the weather is better, I have to stop a
Speaker 3: lot more frequently. Otherwise I just don't drink and then
Speaker 3: become have the risk of being dehydrated. But my winter walks,
Speaker 3: I tell folks, my summer walks are more painful because
Speaker 3: it's hot, you're dizzy, you sweating, and then when you sweat,
Speaker 3: the salt is salt in your sweat. When you wipe
Speaker 3: your sweat from your eyes, the salt literally because you
Speaker 3: do it so much, it cuts your skin. Like my
Speaker 3: skin now is very sensitive and it burns and so
Speaker 3: but when you still sweating, it burns even more. My
Speaker 3: winter walks are dangerous because of ice, in black ice,
Speaker 3: and just all people who can't they barely can drive
Speaker 3: in normal conditions, they drive even worse in winter conditions,
Speaker 3: And so just preparing for is more of a mental
Speaker 3: preparation because either both both scenarios, I get exhausted. Both scenarios.
Speaker 3: My body gets worn. The winter walks are worse because
Speaker 3: in some aspects, because my snow boots are not as
Speaker 3: comfortable as my warm weather shoes, like my own clouds,
Speaker 3: my hookas that I wear. I have to actually buy
Speaker 3: snow boots to walk in, which okay, the hiking style,
Speaker 3: but they're not as comfortable as my other.
Speaker 1: You talked about it being dangerous. You got hit, like
Speaker 1: swiped by a car right in the winter runs.
Speaker 2: What happened? How did that happen?
Speaker 3: Actually happened in May my May walk. Yeah, and then
Speaker 3: one of them was my own escorts. That's a whole
Speaker 3: of the conversation.
Speaker 1: He's no longer that does the service, just no texting
Speaker 1: and driving. How did that happen?
Speaker 3: I know, I know, right, But the first one, I
Speaker 3: was hit by a passer buyer who he had to
Speaker 3: make an effort to veer off to hit me because
Speaker 3: I'm on the sidewalk and he was on the highway
Speaker 3: and he drove off across the white line and his
Speaker 3: passenger mirror hit me on the left side of my
Speaker 3: body in my shoulder. Thank god, I am a pretty
Speaker 3: nice sized man. I did not fall, and I mean
Speaker 3: I felt it, but it was more like to me,
Speaker 3: I felt like somebody just pushed me in my shoulder.
Speaker 3: Then nobody's behind me, and it was this card. Thats
Speaker 3: just you know, pushed me pretty hard. But I thankful
Speaker 3: I didn't fall down. I had to my sign and
Speaker 3: the other in my right hand, and he hit me
Speaker 3: on my left shoulder. And I haven't gone to the hospital.
Speaker 3: I don't feel any pain from it, not the moment,
Speaker 3: but I kept walking. I kept walking, And in fact
Speaker 3: that walk was in the honor of John Conya's on
Speaker 3: his birthday May sixteenth. I did it in honor of him.
Speaker 3: And to walk yesterday was an honor of a Philip Randolph.
Speaker 2: I love that.
Speaker 1: So you have these your muses for your walks. You
Speaker 1: talked about your preparation. Now this is the day after
Speaker 1: your walk again, fourteen hundred plus miles so far.
Speaker 2: What do you do to repair? We talked about prepare.
Speaker 2: What do you do to repair?
Speaker 4: I don't do that well.
Speaker 3: I was supposed to be resting today, but I'm in
Speaker 3: my office, as you can tell, I'm gonna tell myself
Speaker 3: I'm gonna do a heat of foot soak because you know,
Speaker 3: blisters and I have you know size fifteen feet and
Speaker 3: cous a lot of service area. None of the athletic
Speaker 3: socks did they sell Other cushion things are big enough
Speaker 3: really for my size feet. I would make a great
Speaker 3: spokesperson for some athletic attire because I've tried out of everything.
Speaker 3: But I yeah, really, I'm supposed to keep my legs elevated.
Speaker 3: I have a huge appetite on today, whereas yesterday I
Speaker 3: was on adrenaline.
Speaker 4: Today you feel how human you are.
Speaker 3: Yesterday I'm more or less on a on a mountaintop
Speaker 3: experience because I'm I'm thinking about a Phila Randolph.
Speaker 4: I'm thinking about our ancestors.
Speaker 3: I'm thinking about you know, those who've gone on before
Speaker 3: us and done this work throughout their lives and sacrifice
Speaker 3: that some some sacrifice their lives. So I'm I'm all
Speaker 3: in meditation with them and the world and community with God.
Speaker 3: And today I'm back to being you know, human, fragile Robert,
Speaker 3: and I'm filling every inch of it. And so today
Speaker 3: I tried to take it easy.
Speaker 1: But you know, Hences, indeed you talked about the ancestors.
Speaker 1: What is the like, the motivating message for you from them?
Speaker 1: When you think about the work they did to make
Speaker 1: life a little bit easier for us.
Speaker 2: What is.
Speaker 1: You know, kind of the your core, your core mission
Speaker 1: when you think about reflecting on the ancestors contributions to
Speaker 1: our the betterment of our individual lives.
Speaker 3: For me, it contextualizes it a lot. It encourages me
Speaker 3: and also challenged me. It encourages me because it it
Speaker 3: shows that I'm a part. I'm one piece of a
Speaker 3: fabric and the continuation of deliberation of our people right
Speaker 3: and at this this fight did not start with me.
Speaker 3: It would be nice, but don't think it'll end with
Speaker 3: me either, But it kind of joins me into this,
Speaker 3: not for turning because it's males and females, but this
Speaker 3: to this fabric of leaders who have worked tirelessly for
Speaker 3: the liberation of our people. So each month I find
Speaker 3: something someone that I look up to, be Afred Hampton,
Speaker 3: be Rosa pars b, Harry Tubman, but of course John
Speaker 3: Conyers and I a phil the Randolph that I can
Speaker 3: draw inspiration from and at the time in their life.
Speaker 3: I also try to find people who did things that
Speaker 3: folks thought were impossible, because right now, that's how folks
Speaker 3: a broborations. They feel like it's impossible. So a Phil
Speaker 3: the Randolph, first president of Sleeping car Porters right, also
Speaker 3: push President Roosevelt to integrate and have and to stop
Speaker 3: discriminating against federal contracts and government jobs. So all these folks,
Speaker 3: especially in Maryland area, who have federal jobs, you owe
Speaker 3: a debt to pay to A Phil Randolph integration of
Speaker 3: the military through Herrod Truman.
Speaker 4: He fought for that. The chair of.
Speaker 3: The nineteen sixty three March on Washington, where we know
Speaker 3: doctor King, but we don't realize the organizers who put
Speaker 3: that together, who were responsible for the large crowds. Like
Speaker 3: everything this man did, people thought it was impossible. And
Speaker 3: before the march on watch he organized forty thousand plus
Speaker 3: folks to be in the nation's capital arguing in protests
Speaker 3: in nineteen forty three or forty five, and so just
Speaker 3: drawing upon their strength, it also humbles me too, because
Speaker 3: these men are these men and women are very high
Speaker 3: renowned and great accomplishment, and it just shows you as
Speaker 3: much as you think you're doing with more information, more technology,
Speaker 3: more access. I mean, they organized mars of hundreds of
Speaker 3: thousand people with no Internet, no social media, and folks
Speaker 3: showed up and so it challenged me to see how
Speaker 3: we can do more with more as they did more
Speaker 3: with less.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that is so true.
Speaker 1: And I think one of the things that we know
Speaker 1: about our ancestors and their contributions is their collective sacrifice.
Speaker 1: And just recently you committed to that same type of
Speaker 1: sacrifice with this march, this commitment you have to our
Speaker 1: folks to regularly engage. You were going to do this
Speaker 1: on Juneteenth, and you heard that we were doing not
Speaker 1: only the State of the People Power Tour, but that
Speaker 1: we were going to do a national assembly in Baltimore.
Speaker 1: And I reached out to our brother Jamal Bryant and
Speaker 1: I was like, Hey, we're trying to figure out where
Speaker 1: we're going to do this event, and he was like,
Speaker 1: shut up, Robert Turner, just come talk to me and
Speaker 1: is asking where.
Speaker 2: You guys were going to be.
Speaker 1: And I called you and it wasn't thirty five seconds
Speaker 1: into the conversation before you said we absolutely could hold
Speaker 1: this really important and historic convening at Empowerment Temple AMI Church.
Speaker 1: So I want to know what made you say yes.
Speaker 1: Why is it important for us to all gather as
Speaker 1: a people right now? And what would you say to
Speaker 1: folks who are considering coming to Baltimore June nineteenth through
Speaker 1: the twenty First.
Speaker 3: Why did I say yes? First and foremost, who was
Speaker 3: the person gave me the question? Angela RAI, I mean
Speaker 3: had to, and because I know you are someone who
Speaker 3: takes our community's issues seriously and really you have committed
Speaker 3: your life to the progress of our people. I don't
Speaker 3: just leand space willingly. I feel like it is in
Speaker 3: great hands. I feel like it is in great hands
Speaker 3: and a great bad you trustee of our leadership.
Speaker 4: And the state the people. It has been very successful.
Speaker 3: In fact, I would once I found out you all
Speaker 3: were coming to Baltimore, I was trying to find a
Speaker 3: way just to register, like, hey, I want to attend,
Speaker 3: but I couldn't. I didn't find out where it was,
Speaker 3: and that's when I asked Jamal about it, and of
Speaker 3: course you The rest is history.
Speaker 4: But I think it is vitally.
Speaker 3: Important today today, at this moment in time, that we
Speaker 3: as a people don't take any months, weeks, and definitely
Speaker 3: not years off. To my frustration, oftentimes we only speak political.
Speaker 3: I get involved during the election year, and that is
Speaker 3: at the request and to the benefit of elected candidates,
Speaker 3: people who seeking to be elected candidates, Great for them,
Speaker 3: but what happened. My biggest frustration has been what are
Speaker 3: we doing in the end? Not mid term elections, not
Speaker 3: presidential elections, not even a goodlatorial or mayoral or city
Speaker 3: council election, anyminist elections. But what are we doing for
Speaker 3: us to help keep us organized outside of a person's campaign.
Speaker 3: And so when I found out about the State of
Speaker 3: the People convening that you were having throughout the state,
Speaker 3: throughout the country, in different states, I was about I
Speaker 3: was like, about time, you know, this is exactly what
Speaker 3: we need, and it wasn't. It's not sponsored by any
Speaker 3: And I love our politicians. I love all of them,
Speaker 3: I think, well, not all of them. I love the
Speaker 3: ones who are doing work for our people. That's great
Speaker 3: when we have things with them. But I love the
Speaker 3: fact that this is autonomous from any political candidate. Now
Speaker 3: they may come or whatever, but it's autonomous from them.
Speaker 3: But it's really about the people, and especially our people.
Speaker 3: And so I'm thrilled. I'm so thrilled. This is like
Speaker 3: the highlight of I know, we're just six most in
Speaker 3: to be hosting it at the impomented we.
Speaker 2: Are so grateful, Pastor. For those of you who are
Speaker 2: at home watching and.
Speaker 1: You have yet to register it, I would say shame
Speaker 1: on you, but I'm gonna spare my judgment and just
Speaker 1: give you the website. We're at STATEOFTHEPPL dot com. You
Speaker 1: can also find our Black Papers Policy Initiative up on
Speaker 1: those site with tons of great resources. We'll have over
Speaker 1: thirty black papers when all is said and done, it
Speaker 1: is going to be a really, really great experience in Baltimore.
Speaker 1: I encourage all his pre homework to watch Nation Time.
Speaker 1: It's a great documentary about the nineteen seventy two National
Speaker 1: Black Political Convention.
Speaker 2: It was created.
Speaker 1: By Reverend Jackson and A Mary Baraka and Charles Diggs
Speaker 1: and many others. And speaking of A Merri Baraka, his
Speaker 1: son Rasbaraka is running in a primary today in New
Speaker 1: Jersey for governor. So in New Jersey, make sure you
Speaker 1: get out and vote. And I am still between the
Speaker 1: pastor and hit the rest for his blistered feet. So
Speaker 1: we are gonna let you go, Pastor, and I will
Speaker 1: see you.
Speaker 2: I'll see you next week. I will see you next week.
Speaker 2: Looking forward to it. Thank you so much, y'all.
Speaker 1: This has been a great edition of a podcast. Make
Speaker 1: sure you join Pastor Turner on one of these reparation
Speaker 1: walks at least for a mile or so so he's
Speaker 1: not walking alone, especially when he's doing something for our
Speaker 1: collective advancement.
Speaker 2: Until next time, y'all, let's keep pushing.
Speaker 1: Towards freedom, fighting for what we know we deserve, and
Speaker 1: as always, welcome home.
Speaker 2: See Tobron.
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