Speaker 1: Hello, Hello, what is your name?
Speaker 2: Jay?
Speaker 1: Well? Jay, have we ever spoken before?
Speaker 2: We have not.
Speaker 3: I listened to you all the time at work.
Speaker 1: Cool, very cool, very very awesome and sick and rad
Speaker 1: and tits. Uh, well, Jay, what's up?
Speaker 2: Well?
Speaker 3: I was just calling to ask if you think I
Speaker 3: should forgive my dad for cheating on my mom?
Speaker 1: Should you forgive your dad for cheating on your mom?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 1: Do you do you want? Did this happen recently?
Speaker 3: It's been happening over the past few months.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Uh, how old are you?
Speaker 3: I am twenty one?
Speaker 1: Okay, do you still are you still like in that?
Speaker 1: I guess I I Well, I asked you that because
Speaker 1: I'm like, are you still in the house? Like are
Speaker 1: you like?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: I like, are you like in the midst of the drama?
Speaker 3: Kind of? I just moved States to like a new city.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but my dad has been texting our group chat
Speaker 3: to like continue or kindle some sort of relationship with us,
Speaker 3: and it's just weird.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, do you want to have a relationship with
Speaker 1: your dad?
Speaker 2: I don't.
Speaker 3: I don't really know, man, like when we I never
Speaker 3: really knew knew him when I'm growing up, Like he
Speaker 3: was in the house and all that sort of stuff.
Speaker 3: But like he and I just never had a sort
Speaker 3: of relationship. And a few years ago I got kicked
Speaker 3: out and then I condled the relationship with my family
Speaker 3: again after like being out of the house for a year,
Speaker 3: and like since then, he and I haven't really had
Speaker 3: to fight about anything. Like it was just like a
Speaker 3: dad's son not really getting along type shit, And like
Speaker 3: when it came back, he and I didn't really have
Speaker 3: anything to fight about or whatever, so we just didn't
Speaker 3: really talk very much. And then like kind of started
Speaker 3: going uphill, and then recently this happens, and I'm just
Speaker 3: like I don't.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, so you never even you didn't really have
Speaker 1: that great of a relationship with him to begin with.
Speaker 1: This was not like everything was so awesome growing up
Speaker 1: with my dad and he was the best, and then
Speaker 1: this happened. There's like from the start, you guys were
Speaker 1: never that cool.
Speaker 3: Yeah, But like he like over the past year or two,
Speaker 3: since I have been hanging hanging around the house and
Speaker 3: like just kind of building a little bit of a
Speaker 3: relationship with him, he's been kind of trying a lot more,
Speaker 3: like he's been taking us to trips from his home
Speaker 3: country from from his home country, which I didn't really
Speaker 3: know much about growing up, and it's been interesting to
Speaker 3: learn like Asian culture and like that sort of thing.
Speaker 4: But like.
Speaker 3: Now it's just like I don't even know if it's
Speaker 3: worth the effort to try to build any sort of
Speaker 3: relationship with him after this.
Speaker 1: I really can't answer that question for you as to
Speaker 1: whether or not it's worth the effort. That's fair, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean this is something you got to decide for yourself.
Speaker 3: Man, Yeah, you're that's fair.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean, at the age of twenty one, it's like,
Speaker 1: whether or not you want to have a relationship with
Speaker 1: your dad is up to you. But again here's here's okay,
Speaker 1: So I can't give you the answer that question, but
Speaker 1: I will ask you this. I'll ask you to read
Speaker 1: like the question should I have a relationship with my dad?
Speaker 1: I don't think is the question to be asking yourself.
Speaker 1: If I were you, I would ask yourself, well, well,
Speaker 1: having my dad in my life make my life better. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So go ahead and think about the answer to that question,
Speaker 1: and I would make your decisions based off of that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Sair.
Speaker 1: Actually, unless if is does your dad have a lot
Speaker 1: of money? Or like a hot tub at his house,
Speaker 1: or does he have, you know, connections in the entertainment industry,
Speaker 1: like does he can you use the relationship for some
Speaker 1: kind of personal monk? Well, he would he buy you
Speaker 1: a car? Does he like anything like that? It's also
Speaker 1: important to think about No, I'm just kidding. What's your
Speaker 1: name again?
Speaker 3: I'm Jay?
Speaker 2: Jay?
Speaker 1: Is there anything else you want to say to the
Speaker 1: people of the computer before we go?
Speaker 3: And I don't think so.
Speaker 1: Well. I hope that God looks upon you favorably when
Speaker 1: you die and visit the gates of Saint Peter.
Speaker 3: Thank you, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 1: Le Something tells me he will. Good night, Jay. I'm
Speaker 1: not religious. We're gonna. I don't I'm not religious. I
Speaker 1: feel like people are gonna. I feel like I've been
Speaker 1: being very serious in this podcast lately, and so I
Speaker 1: got to throw in some crazy shit every now and that.
Speaker 1: But I feel like I've been like I feel like
Speaker 1: I've been so sincere that uh, or maybe that's not true,
Speaker 1: that's just my weird perception of myself or whatever. That Like,
Speaker 1: if I go, I think God will look upon you favorably.
Speaker 1: At the case of Saint Peter, people will hear that,
Speaker 1: and they'll go, what the fuck is he like religious
Speaker 1: or something? But no, I was, I don't know, maybe
Speaker 1: I maybe I am. Fuck you don't you don't know,
Speaker 1: you don't know? That's maybe. No, I'm not a lot
Speaker 1: of people like to say that they are spiritual. I
Speaker 1: don't know what that means to be spiritual. I don't
Speaker 1: even know if I'm spiritual, Like, uh, what does it
Speaker 1: mean to be spiritual? I don't think. I don't believe in, uh, determinism.
Speaker 1: I think that's what they call is that is that
Speaker 1: what it's called when uh, like, there's you you believe
Speaker 1: that all of the events of life are predetermined by
Speaker 1: some external force. I don't believe in that at all.
Speaker 1: I don't believe in that at all. I don't believe
Speaker 1: in any kind of like external force that is making
Speaker 1: the universe function in the way that it does. And
Speaker 1: if that were to be a thing, if there were
Speaker 1: to be some magical spiritual force that makes the universe
Speaker 1: the way it does, I have no fucking idea. First
Speaker 1: of all, they would be an asshole. They would I
Speaker 1: don't know if they would be an asshole, but they
Speaker 1: would definitely be Maybe they wouldn't be bad at the job.
Speaker 1: Maybe I'm full, you know, I might be full of shit,
Speaker 1: you know, like the idea of like God's plan, Like
Speaker 1: there's an external force that is making the universe the
Speaker 1: way it is, and that force has a greater plan,
Speaker 1: and that is why it gave this child cancer. Maybe
Speaker 1: the fucking maybe it does, right, because if there is
Speaker 1: some kind of God, if there's a fucking God, and
Speaker 1: the God is like that crazy cool of what, I
Speaker 1: just are so knowledgeable, Maybe they really did give that
Speaker 1: kid cancer for some kind of greater purpose. Maybe that
Speaker 1: kid was I don't know. I don't know. I don't
Speaker 1: think so, you know what I actually do know, I
Speaker 1: don't think so. I think that that. I think that
Speaker 1: that kid just got cancer because we live in a
Speaker 1: world where random horrible things happen, and if you're not
Speaker 1: currently the subject of a random horrible thing, you're thriving
Speaker 1: and you're doing pretty great. Ultimately. That's I guess my
Speaker 1: spiritual belief, which I'm not in. I'll complain about stupid
Speaker 1: things all the time. I'm not particularly in touch with
Speaker 1: that spiritual belief. But if I'm in a spiritual mood,
Speaker 1: if I'm praying at all. That's what I'm thinking about.
Speaker 1: I'm thinking, thank God, a random horrible thing. Thank God. Well,
Speaker 1: that's what I think when I pray, I go thank
Speaker 1: God that of all of the random horrible things that
Speaker 1: are happening right now at thet I guess at least
Speaker 1: they're not happening to me or anyone that I care about.
Speaker 1: But then I get sad because I'm like, Okay, but
Speaker 1: they're happening to other people, and that's fucked up. That's sad,
Speaker 1: that's not cool. A random horrible thing things are happening
Speaker 1: to other people. I don't really know what to do.
Speaker 1: I can't really do anything about it. There will for life,
Speaker 1: and the universe will forever have lots of horrible, fucked
Speaker 1: up things happening all over that will be a constant forever.
Speaker 1: But it's about you know what, you know what I
Speaker 1: think about this a lot. I think it's about how
Speaker 1: you want to see it, because a lot of good
Speaker 1: things are happening in the world, Like like if you
Speaker 1: just take a walk down the street, that's the cool.
Speaker 1: That's the cool thing about about like a big city,
Speaker 1: about like like I'm in New York and I'm walking
Speaker 1: around and it's if you walk around New York and
Speaker 1: you want to look for like poverty and horrible thing
Speaker 1: and you want to just you just want to look
Speaker 1: for like bad shit, you'll totally find it. But if
Speaker 1: you want to look for like, I don't know, like
Speaker 1: two people walking, like talking to each other and laughing,
Speaker 1: and or like kids running around having a good time whatever. Like,
Speaker 1: if you want to look for like good stuff, you'll
Speaker 1: find that too. So I guess that's what it is.
Speaker 1: I guess it's. Yes, there's horrible things happening all the time,
Speaker 1: but there's also there's a whole lot of good things
Speaker 1: happening all the time. There's people eating and walking around
Speaker 1: and talking to each other and smiling, and that stuff
Speaker 1: is out That stuff is out there too, So I
Speaker 1: guess at the end of the day, it's really every
Speaker 1: there's horrible things and great amazing things like the sky.
Speaker 1: The sky is out. That's pretty great. I guess at
Speaker 1: the end of the day, it's it's about what you wanna,
Speaker 1: what you're looking for. I gotta think about it that
Speaker 1: more often.
Speaker 5: All from Keith.
Speaker 1: Hello, Hello, Hi, what is your name?
Speaker 5: Keith?
Speaker 1: Keith? Have we ever spoken before?
Speaker 2: Kee?
Speaker 5: No, we haven't a key as like.
Speaker 4: A key to luck.
Speaker 1: Okay, I thought you said Keith, like like you know
Speaker 1: when you when you when you're grinding up a bunch
Speaker 1: of weed and and at the very end, at the
Speaker 1: bottom they have Keith and you sprinkle it on top
Speaker 1: of a bowl and you get really high and you
Speaker 1: listen to to Chance the Wrappers acid rap and a
Speaker 1: car with your friends.
Speaker 5: Doesn't sound too bad? And that was your crazy nickname.
Speaker 1: Well, what's up? T how can how's? How's how be
Speaker 1: it going? What's up? Tell me everything?
Speaker 5: Tell me, not them, it'd be okay, be okay, Like
Speaker 5: I'm doing all right generally a little I'm becoming a
Speaker 5: little disillusioned with the whole nine five thing. And I
Speaker 5: guess what I wanted to talk about was I was
Speaker 5: pretty much about to start doing only fans. It's like
Speaker 5: a side hustle.
Speaker 1: Okay, what I guess do you tell me?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 1: What aspect of that are you? Did you want to
Speaker 1: talk about? Are you feeling like like tell me more?
Speaker 5: Okay? I think I just kind of wanted to talk
Speaker 5: about it just to like, I don't know, kind of
Speaker 5: stand on it a little more, okay, because I don't
Speaker 5: know there's definitely like a lot of shame obviously around
Speaker 5: like doing sex worker like wanting to which I've kind
Speaker 5: of dabbled for like a while, but really felt very like,
Speaker 5: I don't know, kills very taboo because.
Speaker 3: It is.
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess to me it boils down to
Speaker 1: the question of whether or not you want to do it.
Speaker 5: Oh well, like the answer is yeah. It's just more
Speaker 5: so the risks involved that I think I'm like kind
Speaker 5: of continually hung up on, you know, because like they
Speaker 5: are real lah and by risks, I think one of
Speaker 5: them that I'm like kind of trying to like get
Speaker 5: over is like oh like people might find out, which
Speaker 5: I'm more so becoming like okay, like that's not really
Speaker 5: the end of the world. Like we're mostly afraid of judgment.
Speaker 5: Like I'm like, okay, that's something that's kind of manageable
Speaker 5: to work through.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I mean, if that's what you know, sorry,
Speaker 1: go ahead to let you finish.
Speaker 5: Oh okay. And then there's like the risks of like
Speaker 5: you're like, I don't know information, like you're safety. I
Speaker 5: think it's probably honestly, how I'm saying, I think it
Speaker 5: is mostly the judgment when I start looking into like
Speaker 5: how to like protect you know, your anonymous this you
Speaker 5: can like just your general safety. I'm like, oh, it's
Speaker 5: like not that like for the most part, it's not
Speaker 5: that crazy like that difficult to do, so but you go.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean as far as like like like actual
Speaker 1: genuine like safety risks, it's like whatever, if you put
Speaker 1: yourself out on the internet at all, there's always the
Speaker 1: possibility that somebody will try to swat you or do
Speaker 1: something fucking crazy. But that's all. I guess. That's also
Speaker 1: the risk you take anytime you decide to leave your
Speaker 1: house and fucking do anything. Is that you anytime you
Speaker 1: leave your house or get in a car or put
Speaker 1: a photo of yourself on the internet, you expose yourself
Speaker 1: to the potential will of you expose yourself to the
Speaker 1: will of any and all insane people you might come
Speaker 1: across as you live your life on the earth, I
Speaker 1: suppose is true. Yeah, yeah, as far as like your
Speaker 1: your you're like the judgment of other people, I mean yeah,
Speaker 1: like uh, if if, if, if this is what you're
Speaker 1: gonna do, I guess you would have you would have
Speaker 1: to come to peace with with with that fact that
Speaker 1: people may discover it and they may think things, and
Speaker 1: I think coming to coming to peace with that is
Speaker 1: it seems likely crucial to do that.
Speaker 5: I feel like it's also kind of like a good
Speaker 5: challenge in a way, like like like you know what,
Speaker 5: I'm kind of like, I mean that is to happen,
Speaker 5: like I would just have to really learn how to
Speaker 5: get comfortable, like yeah, like that insecurity, you know, sure?
Speaker 1: I mean yeah, with this kind of thing again, it's
Speaker 1: it's just a question of if you want to fucking
Speaker 1: do it or not. And if you know, it's definitely
Speaker 1: not thought about. I mean, if you if you thought
Speaker 1: about uh yeah, I mean sounds well, it sounds like
Speaker 1: you've thought through all of these aspects of all of
Speaker 1: the things that we would talk about.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that might be true, but I appreciate the chat nonetheless.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what's I mean? What do you do? Is your
Speaker 1: current jobs?
Speaker 5: Like nonprofit work?
Speaker 1: Okay? Yeah, that's cool. I could maybe you could run
Speaker 1: an I guess has anyone ever ran like a nonprofits
Speaker 1: only fans?
Speaker 2: Okay?
Speaker 5: This I was talking of my therapist about this and
Speaker 5: she was like very disclusioned with the nine to five
Speaker 5: As I said, She's like, so why don't you just
Speaker 5: go work for like an organization that like does like
Speaker 5: sex education or like you know, like slut rights like
Speaker 5: like like she's like, there's a million things you could
Speaker 5: do there. And I was like, oh, that's actually a
Speaker 5: really good idea because I start working for jobs because okay,
Speaker 5: you're your job, I'll just go find another one. And
Speaker 5: I'm as I'm looking, I'm like, yo, this is all
Speaker 5: really depressing. Ship like I don't want to do any
Speaker 5: of this either, but that she had a similar ish
Speaker 5: idea to you.
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, oh well you'll wait, you'll make way less money.
Speaker 5: Too, make way less money.
Speaker 1: I was working for a nonprofit. But that doesn't really matter.
Speaker 1: That's I mean, I don't know if that's that's not
Speaker 1: something you mentioned, uh whether or not you care that
Speaker 1: much about? What did your real therapist say?
Speaker 5: My real service? She she was, I said, I was like, okay,
Speaker 5: so I was talking. She was talking about the possible
Speaker 5: career tracks I could take given my like degrees, and
Speaker 5: I was like, yeah, like this, like this all sounds
Speaker 5: quite terrible, Like I'm not excited to like go like
Speaker 5: I couldn't imagine interviewing for a job like for some
Speaker 5: other shit and just being like yeah, and I'm so
Speaker 5: excited to work here, like I can't wait. And she
Speaker 5: was like, okay, so what what is exciting to you?
Speaker 5: What would make you want to get out of bed
Speaker 5: to do this? And I was like, I don't know,
Speaker 5: like I want to do something non normative, you know,
Speaker 5: like I just feel like this is so like what
Speaker 5: I'm doing is so keen, so whatever, and like I
Speaker 5: don't know's I'm like, who am I to be? Like
Speaker 5: I need something really radical like blah blah blah, but
Speaker 5: I don't know. Sex work is very which I'm very
Speaker 5: great obvious obviously I'm choosing to do it if I want,
Speaker 5: but like, I don't know, I feel like I'm not
Speaker 5: expected are enough the post to profit off like my
Speaker 5: desirability or like like I don't know, it feels like
Speaker 5: my own like you know, I was a personal political.
Speaker 5: It feels like my own little political like non normative, like.
Speaker 1: What did what did your what did your therapists say
Speaker 1: about about you wanting to start and only fans?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 5: She I mean she just kind of was like, then
Speaker 5: you can do it, like I yeah, Like I don't
Speaker 5: know if you want to do so like you're already
Speaker 5: doing it, like I would find it's your business. Like yeah,
Speaker 5: she was pretty much like, sure, but you know, obviously
Speaker 5: you're doing anything her. Then she gave a better advice
Speaker 5: of like make sure you're like, you know, figuring out
Speaker 5: how to best go about this, like finding other people
Speaker 5: who do it like listening, because I'm like, don't. Yeah, sure,
Speaker 5: you know, like obviously like do your research and like,
Speaker 5: well like don't do this completely her own. But yeah,
Speaker 5: she was kind of like, I so that's your thing.
Speaker 1: That's your therapist. Sounds uh, that all sounds reasonable. I
Speaker 1: have no I have no I have nothing quippy to
Speaker 1: say about any of this. This is sounds like it
Speaker 1: sounds like you have thought through this decision.
Speaker 5: Well yeah, I feel like I guess the only thing
Speaker 5: was to do it, so.
Speaker 1: Well, is there anything else you want to say to
Speaker 1: the people of the computer before we go?
Speaker 5: No, No, I got nothing. Thank you for chatting.
Speaker 1: See around the universe see you, I mean, yeah, you
Speaker 1: want to start only fans starting only fans? Do whatever
Speaker 1: you want. I guess I don't. As long as I
Speaker 1: think in life, I guess like like your decisions should
Speaker 1: be made I think based on like what what's I
Speaker 1: think the goal in life is like to be safe
Speaker 1: and happy, and I guess the but with it. But
Speaker 1: achieving those two things is complex, right, That's kind of
Speaker 1: what everyone wants, right, is to be safe and happy.
Speaker 1: But then it's like being happy is like a comprised
Speaker 1: of like eight billion fucking whatever different things, you know,
Speaker 1: and then being safe is I guess, kind of straightforward.
Speaker 1: So I don't know. It seems like this person thought
Speaker 1: through her decision as to what would make her safe
Speaker 1: and happy and arrived at that conclusion, and that that
Speaker 1: appears to be well, that matters. I suppose Hello, Hello, Hi,
Speaker 1: what is your name?
Speaker 2: My name is Asher?
Speaker 1: Asher? What's going on? Asher? How can I get you?
Speaker 2: I'm probably gonna have to flee Texas to New Mexico?
Speaker 1: Do you want to tell us why?
Speaker 2: So? I'm a transgender man. Okay, And the Attorney General
Speaker 2: of Texas put in an order to stop all gender
Speaker 2: changes for or driver's license, even with court orders, And
Speaker 2: if you try to get a change, they will deny
Speaker 2: it and then send your name to an email list,
Speaker 2: which is kind of scary.
Speaker 1: Wait, so if you try to change the gender on
Speaker 1: your license they send you to what kind.
Speaker 2: Of like.
Speaker 5: That.
Speaker 2: It's just it was leaked email saying hey, if someone
Speaker 2: tries to change it, deny it and send their name
Speaker 2: and information here.
Speaker 1: Okay, So I'm confused. So if you so, if you go,
Speaker 1: where do you Where does one go to change the
Speaker 1: gender on their license? The DMV?
Speaker 2: Yeah, like DPS or that's the big Texas version of
Speaker 2: the DMV.
Speaker 1: Okay. So if you go to the DPS, the DMV
Speaker 1: or whatever it is, and you ask them if you
Speaker 1: can change the gender on your license, they sent put
Speaker 1: you on an email list. But we don't even know
Speaker 1: what this email list is.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so okay, but there's something in my gut says
Speaker 2: if a government is trying to collect the data of minorities,
Speaker 2: especially especially like a extremely small population or something up.
Speaker 1: So why does it? Why do you feel like you
Speaker 1: need to flee Texas?
Speaker 2: Well, I don't like what's that happening and everything else
Speaker 2: politically here here, Like I don't relatively feel safe okay anymore?
Speaker 1: Okay, It is so.
Speaker 2: Because I thought I would live in Texas for the
Speaker 2: rest of my life, because you know, I love the food,
Speaker 2: I love like the social culture of Texas, because like.
Speaker 1: Do you have a lot of Do you have a
Speaker 1: lot of friends in Texas?
Speaker 2: No, not really anymore.
Speaker 1: Do you have family in Texas?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 1: Okay, you have like the people like your your community.
Speaker 1: You're like support network. The people that you talk to
Speaker 1: and see every day. Are they Are they in Texas?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 1: Okay? Do you like those people?
Speaker 2: Fifty to fifty?
Speaker 1: Fifty to fifty Okay.
Speaker 2: It's like I'll talk to my parents about like trance
Speaker 2: stuff and they just go, mmm, I don't know what
Speaker 2: you want me to do? Okay, Now, so it's kind
Speaker 2: of like, okay, I can't really talk about stuff with them.
Speaker 1: Okay. Can I ask how old you are?
Speaker 2: I'm twenty five?
Speaker 1: Twenty five? Do you do you live with your parents?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Because everything's too damn it expensive. Year.
Speaker 1: Do you have a job?
Speaker 2: I do? Wow?
Speaker 1: What's the kind of job?
Speaker 2: I stock groceries and I get paid about like fifteen
Speaker 2: dollars an hour?
Speaker 1: Okay? Is that enough for you to move out on
Speaker 1: your own?
Speaker 2: Yes? If I figure out, if I just budget well.
Speaker 1: You know, okay, would that make life better for you?
Speaker 2: Probably? Yeah. The place I'm going to like that's might
Speaker 2: I might go to? Would have a really important friend
Speaker 2: group there?
Speaker 1: Oh, Like, so.
Speaker 2: It would help a lot. And then what if I
Speaker 2: did move, it would be like a more it would
Speaker 2: be more like a permanent housing solution rather in a.
Speaker 1: Temporary So where are you thinking to move to?
Speaker 2: I have some friends in Albuquerque, New Mexico?
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, you mentioned in Mexico.
Speaker 2: Out of Colorado?
Speaker 1: What what? Okay? So you want to go to? Well,
Speaker 1: do you have a job lined up in Albuquerque or
Speaker 1: or any leads I could?
Speaker 2: I can transfer? I can transfer pretty easily if I
Speaker 2: wanted to.
Speaker 1: I mean it it sounds like it sounds like it'd
Speaker 1: be a cool move.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's just scary because I've never done anything
Speaker 2: like that. Like I've been planning on moving out if
Speaker 2: I could find a roommate because I can't even afford
Speaker 2: one bed, one bathroom or studio at this point. Sure,
Speaker 2: it's just insane.
Speaker 1: Do you do you like your friends in Albuquerque? Do
Speaker 1: you could you live with one of them? Like not
Speaker 1: like not like crash on their fucking couch, but like
Speaker 1: be a roommate.
Speaker 2: With them temporarily if something were to happen.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well no, I don't, I mean, like what would
Speaker 1: you No, I don't. I don't mean like live I mean,
Speaker 1: would you like get a place with them, like as
Speaker 1: a permanent I would be this permanent can be.
Speaker 2: I want to be with that friend group. I would
Speaker 2: be like with very quick with like their other friends
Speaker 2: that are moving out. That'd be like within the front
Speaker 2: group if you get it.
Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, I mean I don't know. All this sounds cool?
Speaker 1: So you have you did you for all twenty five
Speaker 1: years of your life? Have you lived at home with
Speaker 1: your parents?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Pretty much?
Speaker 1: Okay, I mean to reach their own I you know,
Speaker 1: I spent a lot of time living at home with
Speaker 1: my parents after after college and all that stuff. But
Speaker 1: I mean I think I think going to Albuquerque and
Speaker 1: trying to find some independence for yourself. It sounds like
Speaker 1: a healthy thing to do.
Speaker 2: Yeah. And I would also try to like kick start
Speaker 2: doing more art and art work.
Speaker 1: Cool. Yeah, it sounds like a good idea.
Speaker 2: Like I've sold my art at a pre convention once
Speaker 2: and I got like almost two hundred dollars. I think,
Speaker 2: like really good.
Speaker 1: Look listen if you want, and this is my my
Speaker 1: official you can put this in the newspapers. I I
Speaker 1: I like that. I love living in a universe where
Speaker 1: one could feasibly pay their rents and buy groceries using
Speaker 1: money that they made selling furry porn at a convention.
Speaker 1: I think that that's one of the great things about
Speaker 1: There's a lot of things that suck about living in
Speaker 1: twenty twenty four, but that I think is one of
Speaker 1: the better ones.
Speaker 2: I'm currently drawing a buff Ti no buff camp wearing
Speaker 2: a song, and I've been posting whips in an art
Speaker 2: channel I'm in and everyone's just like, are you going
Speaker 2: to sell prints of this?
Speaker 5: You sell the.
Speaker 1: Tell the Prince.
Speaker 2: I love no.
Speaker 1: I love entrepreneurial shit. I love I love weird ways
Speaker 1: that people make money. I support it. I think it's
Speaker 1: I mean, as a guy who makes money, you're doing
Speaker 1: a weird thing. I support people making money doing weird things.
Speaker 1: So you know, hallelujah. It sounds like a good plan.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And plus like I'm getting better at or especially when
Speaker 2: it comes to like shading, because that was a bitch
Speaker 2: to do and sell shading and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: Uh, when are you gonna make your your.
Speaker 2: Move Sometime after December, like the holidays, when it's a
Speaker 2: little more relaxed to like my work schedule.
Speaker 1: Well, Asher, Uh, is there any I do? Do you
Speaker 1: feel like, I guess, uh, do you feel like there's
Speaker 1: any other aspect of this that that you want to
Speaker 1: talk about before we go?
Speaker 2: The friend group, I would be in there. We're a
Speaker 2: bunch of leftist ferries, radical leftus furries, okay. To Also,
Speaker 2: I'm part of a mutual aid group that's worked with
Speaker 2: the Furry to help people's housing and just medical needs
Speaker 2: and to live and stuff like that, okay, which I
Speaker 2: think is like a pretty cool aspect that like, I
Speaker 2: don't get to talk about a lot in my current
Speaker 2: living situation.
Speaker 1: Because this look, it sounds like it sounds like, I
Speaker 1: know you phrased it as a fleeing, but it sounds
Speaker 1: like you're you've got a life waiting for you in
Speaker 1: Albuquerque that you were excited about.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's still kind of like I've had like plans,
Speaker 2: like I've had to talk like probably like two years ago,
Speaker 2: be like, Hey, if things get worse, is there a
Speaker 2: possibility I can come over and stay for extending me
Speaker 2: period of time. We're like, oh, yeah, you can do that.
Speaker 2: So this is like worst case scenario has happened.
Speaker 1: So you're I'm telling you I feel like, I mean, look,
Speaker 1: I know, like it's all everything. I get it's a bummer,
Speaker 1: but it sounds like you got it. Sounds like good.
Speaker 1: This sounds like you're like, yeah, finding some sense of
Speaker 1: independence for yourself and hanging out with people that you
Speaker 1: like and share common interests with. So I mean it
Speaker 1: sounds it sounds good. You know, go ahead and go
Speaker 1: go ahead and start the furry porn business. I I
Speaker 1: think I support it. I'm not gonna buy anything, but
Speaker 1: I support it as an idea. Is there anything else
Speaker 1: you want to say to the people of the computer
Speaker 1: before we go?
Speaker 2: Asher, Everyone should go to the furry convention at least
Speaker 2: once just to experience it. And everyone should at least
Speaker 2: wear a first suit once in their life.
Speaker 1: Does this count?
Speaker 2: So there are first suits where they have the eyes
Speaker 2: cut out so it's like your eyes in it. But
Speaker 2: like those are like not as popular, so like you're
Speaker 2: technically like mm hmm, I guess all right, I'll take it.
Speaker 1: I'll take it. Have a good one asure all right.
Speaker 4: Bye.
Speaker 1: This has been a hotly contested thing for me as
Speaker 1: people are like tech like, okay, so for I think
Speaker 1: furries are like there's a it's a very specific like subculture,
Speaker 1: and I don't consider myself a part of that subculture.
Speaker 1: But like on a purely technical basis, if you were
Speaker 1: to define a furree as a human who regularly wears
Speaker 1: an animal costume, like that was it? Like there's no
Speaker 1: context of like a subcultural thing if you defined it
Speaker 1: purely as a guy who wears an animal costume. I
Speaker 1: technically do fit that description as a guy who regularly
Speaker 1: wears an animal costume. And I the people have asked me,
Speaker 1: does that technically make me a furry? And I always
Speaker 1: likes a child who gets their face painted like a
Speaker 1: lion at the carnival? Are they a furry who? I
Speaker 1: don't know? I don't know, But anyway, what the fuck
Speaker 1: was I gonna say?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I kind of I kind of want I want
Speaker 1: to go to one of these conventions. Actually, I think
Speaker 1: it'd be fun. I my, you know, my main goal,
Speaker 1: my ultimate thing that I want to start doing. I've
Speaker 1: been kind of busy podcasting and touring and stuff, but
Speaker 1: the thing that really gets me going that I want
Speaker 1: to do more of is like going out to conventions
Speaker 1: in weird places and uh, just walking around as a
Speaker 1: geto interview in people. So who knows, maybe I'll do
Speaker 1: that at a fucking for a thing sometime, or I'll
Speaker 1: do it at a pizza place, or I'll do Oh,
Speaker 1: you know what I want to I want to do.
Speaker 1: I want to do it at a reptile convention. If
Speaker 1: anyone knows of any big hot reptile conventions going on
Speaker 1: in the air, I don't know, what's the what's the
Speaker 1: biggest reptile convention? Someone let me know. Someone send me
Speaker 1: an email or the DM or something. I want to
Speaker 1: know what the what the biggest reptile convention in America?
Speaker 2: You know what?
Speaker 1: Fuck the biggest reptile convention in the world. If you
Speaker 1: know what it is. If I have to if I
Speaker 1: have to travel to to Chile to attend the world
Speaker 1: if it happens to be there, I don't know why
Speaker 1: I would be there, but wherever it is, let me
Speaker 1: know if anyone has any info on this, and I'll
Speaker 1: show up and people will be like, damn, I didn't
Speaker 1: know a lizard could be that big. I'll be like, yeah,
Speaker 1: what of it? Actually, they probably are bigger lizards than me.
Speaker 1: If it's the if it's the world's biggest reptile convention,
Speaker 1: I assume they have a reptile that's bigger than five
Speaker 1: six two hundred pounds, So I don't know anyway. All right, Hello, hello.
Speaker 2: Hello, Hi?
Speaker 1: What is your name?
Speaker 4: My name is Late.
Speaker 1: Well, Nate. What's happening? How can I get you today?
Speaker 4: Well, I'm feeling I'm feeling great. I'm guessing you called
Speaker 4: because of the text.
Speaker 1: User, remind me what it was, yeh.
Speaker 4: It said that, Uh. Well, the first text I said was,
Speaker 4: uh that when you look at a stamp, you get
Speaker 4: one tenth of a calorie. And the second text was that, uh,
Speaker 4: I escaped a big Foot sex cult and Willow.
Speaker 1: Creek, Now what is a big Foot sex cult?
Speaker 4: So this this was this was earlier this year. This
Speaker 4: was when the big Foot Festival was happening up in
Speaker 4: northern California and Willow Creek, and and I went there,
Speaker 4: uh to do some recording. I wanted to record at
Speaker 4: the festival, there's there's some leap frog contests and big
Speaker 4: foot contests and watermelon contests, and I just wanted to
Speaker 4: get it all on footage. And when I was up there,
Speaker 4: I met I met folks that were attending there, and
Speaker 4: they said that they had a group and that they
Speaker 4: were doing a party afterwards, and when I showed up there,
Speaker 4: it was about uh six six people and they all
Speaker 4: were obsessed with bigfoot and they were still talking about
Speaker 4: it when we got back. And eventually they and as
Speaker 4: soon as I walked in, they said I had to
Speaker 4: take off all my shoes and all my so it
Speaker 4: takes off my shoes, my socks, and they demanded it,
Speaker 4: which I I didn't want to do. I I also
Speaker 4: had like not trim my toes, so I didn't wash
Speaker 4: off my toes, and so I had to take everything off.
Speaker 4: And eventually they got the drinks rolling and they all
Speaker 4: kind of wanted to start massage at each other's feet,
Speaker 4: and I had to step out early before before I
Speaker 4: got I could kind of see the direction it was going.
Speaker 1: Well, I don't know if it was a cool on. Yep,
Speaker 1: you went to a big foot convention, right, that's where
Speaker 1: this all started happening.
Speaker 4: Yeah, a big foot festival basically.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, you went to you went to a big
Speaker 1: foot festival and you stumbled upon an orgy yep. Basically
Speaker 1: yeah okay. And you weren't like fucking curious, like that's
Speaker 1: not something that happens every day. You were like I
Speaker 1: gotta get out of here. You don't want to watch,
Speaker 1: you don't want because that's the thing about orgies is
Speaker 1: like you don't have to participate, you can just sit
Speaker 1: and watch.
Speaker 4: That's true, that's true. But but I was how how
Speaker 4: how adamant they were about me wanting to take my my, my, my,
Speaker 4: my socks and shoes off. I thought they were gonna
Speaker 4: be very adamant about me wanting to maybe stick my
Speaker 4: toes in the mouth, and and I wasn't about that.
Speaker 4: So I let them know. I was like, hey, I
Speaker 4: think I left my uh a jack and my cartment
Speaker 4: and go your back and go grab that and uh
Speaker 4: And then I left. I got my shoes and my
Speaker 4: socks and got my toe artist and drove drove three
Speaker 4: hours back home.
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's escaping a big Foot sex cult.
Speaker 1: You didn't know it was a cult. It could have
Speaker 1: just been a one time thing everyone does once. I
Speaker 1: don't think colts meet once a year. You know, why
Speaker 1: do you think it was a cult.
Speaker 4: The reason I thought it was a cult was because
Speaker 4: any any sex orgy, like maybe they're watching the show there,
Speaker 4: they'll they'll fight tape. I don't know. Play four games.
Speaker 4: I don't know what normal orgies do, but I mean
Speaker 4: these people were. I mean we were watching big foot documentaries.
Speaker 4: They were talking foot talking, talking footage, talking, uh new sidings,
Speaker 4: like they were that was the only thing they were
Speaker 4: talking about. I mean there was like bigfoot. The person
Speaker 4: hosting had like bigfoot artifacts all over their their their
Speaker 4: their decorations everywhere, and and I was convinced that these
Speaker 4: people were like obsessed with this this creature and obsessed
Speaker 4: with with with feet in general.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean this place sound awesome. Where if I
Speaker 1: want to join? How do I do that?
Speaker 2: Well?
Speaker 4: Willow Creek, California. It's it's up in the woods in
Speaker 4: northern California. And uh there's a festival that happens once
Speaker 4: a year and maybe maybe everyone can go catch some
Speaker 4: some bigfoot.
Speaker 1: All right, wait, what's that? What's the festival called? I'm
Speaker 1: gonna write it down because I'm gonna go there as
Speaker 1: a get go and talk to people.
Speaker 4: I'll meet you the Bigfoot Festival.
Speaker 1: So I have a friend. So so the way that
Speaker 1: this show first started was it started as a stream
Speaker 1: on something called the Reddit Public Access Network. Because back
Speaker 1: during the pandemic, Reddit used to have like streams, and
Speaker 1: there were all these people that would douce live streams
Speaker 1: on Reddit. And one of the people that did live
Speaker 1: streams on Reddit was this guy named Sas Squatch and
Speaker 1: I'm at him and he became he became a friend
Speaker 1: of mine, and uh he's a guy plays the saxophone
Speaker 1: in a big Sas Squatch costume. And I bet that
Speaker 1: this bigfoot orgy group would uh would would would pay
Speaker 1: him top dollar to play careless whisper as they all
Speaker 1: shove their foots in each other's mouths and anuses. So
Speaker 1: I'll have to let him know that there was a
Speaker 1: gig waiting for him.
Speaker 4: Absolutely, I think they'll flock to him. If he just
Speaker 4: shows up, he'll get their number instantly.
Speaker 1: Is there anything else you want to say to the
Speaker 1: people of the computer before we go?
Speaker 4: I hope everyone has a great rest of the night,
Speaker 4: and I hope everyone watches UH get Get Live and
Speaker 4: buys all the tickets.
Speaker 1: God bless you, sir. Have a good night all right
Speaker 1: here as well.
Speaker 2: Sah.
Speaker 1: I was in an orgy tent once. I didn't participate
Speaker 1: in the orgy, but I did I did. I did
Speaker 1: kind of do a little bit of grounding meditation, which
Speaker 1: is a nice thing to do in an orgy. Everyone's
Speaker 1: kind of because here's the I felt like I had
Speaker 1: to because when you're in an when you're having sex,
Speaker 1: you're very in the moment. It's a very it's a
Speaker 1: very sex is a very grounding exercise, and an orgy
Speaker 1: it's a bunch of people having sex. So it's a
Speaker 1: bunch of it's a bunch of people grounded. So if
Speaker 1: you're sitting there and you're not participating in the orgy,
Speaker 1: but you're like around the orgy, you kind of want to.
Speaker 1: You have to. I think that's the best thing to do,
Speaker 1: is you meditate, because then you're as in the moment
Speaker 1: as everyone else in the room. So that's what I think.
Speaker 1: I don't know if anyone's listening to this, might you know,
Speaker 1: find themselves at a big Foot meeting or or or
Speaker 1: a lego club or whatever whatever it is that you
Speaker 1: think is one thing and then it turns into an orgy.
Speaker 1: That's what I would do if I were you. Next
Speaker 1: time that happens, just just sit down and you know,
Speaker 1: light a candle's probably it's probably already a lit candle
Speaker 1: that you can sit next to. Somewhere. I feel like
Speaker 1: candles and orgies are a thing, and you just meditate,
Speaker 1: just ground yourself, You just sit there when you go.
Speaker 1: My hand is on my knee right now, and I
Speaker 1: am present, and I am here amongst all the people.
Speaker 1: Fucking goes on the line taking your phone calls every night.
Speaker 1: Never Beacond goes to his d's teaching you a loud
Speaker 1: in your life. He's not really an expert.