1 00:00:01,360 --> 00:00:05,200 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast, home of the 2 00:00:05,320 --> 00:00:10,639 Speaker 1: modern white tail hunter and now your host, Mark Kenyon. 3 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast. I'm your host, 4 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:17,320 Speaker 1: Mark Kenyan and tainting the show. I am joined by 5 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:21,520 Speaker 1: Georgia Hunter and host of Realtree Road Trips Tyler Jordan's 6 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:24,680 Speaker 1: to discuss exactly how he'd handled some of the most 7 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:38,640 Speaker 1: challenging deer hunting scenarios in the white tail woods. All right, 8 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:41,879 Speaker 1: welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast, brought to you 9 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:45,200 Speaker 1: by First Light, and today we are in week three 10 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 1: of our what would You Do series, in which we 11 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:50,960 Speaker 1: are tossing some of the best hunters in the world 12 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:55,760 Speaker 1: a series of difficult hunting scenarios, all sorts of different stuff. 13 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 1: Some of these are the same questions I asked the 14 00:00:57,480 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 1: guys over and over again. Sometimes there are questions more 15 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 1: ciffic to their unique experiences. But the main thing we're 16 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 1: getting at here is trying to get into the minds 17 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 1: of these deer hunters to figure out how they tackle, 18 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:14,920 Speaker 1: how they deal with tough hunting situations, how they make 19 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:18,119 Speaker 1: their decisions, how they deal with adversity. That's the kind 20 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:20,319 Speaker 1: of stuff I want to know, leading into my next 21 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:22,400 Speaker 1: hunting season. How can I get better at those things? 22 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 1: And today Tyler Jordan's gonna help us do that. I 23 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:27,920 Speaker 1: think you probably know what Tyler Jordan is. He's the 24 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:31,399 Speaker 1: son of Bill Jordan, the founder of Real Tree, the 25 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 1: host of a whole bunch of hunting shows and films 26 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 1: and videos over the years, and Tyler has taken the 27 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 1: reins on Real Tree road trips, doing a great job, 28 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 1: great hunter, lots of experience, and I think one of 29 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 1: the interesting things that Tyler brings to the table is 30 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 1: that he hunts a whole bunch of different places across 31 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 1: the country every year. So he's seen deer acting a 32 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 1: certain way in the Southeast, and he's seed and deer 33 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 1: act a certain way in the Midwest, and he's seen 34 00:01:57,840 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 1: it in the West, and he's seen it in the South, 35 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 1: and he's been on kind of all points in between. 36 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 1: There's not a whole lot of people who probably have 37 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 1: been to as many different locations as Tyler has. And 38 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 1: he's been with very very good hunters too. He's been 39 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:14,520 Speaker 1: in hunting camps with some incredibly experienced and successful folks, 40 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:16,799 Speaker 1: so he's gotten to learn from the best of the best. 41 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:20,400 Speaker 1: And what I really like about Tyler is that he's 42 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:23,520 Speaker 1: willing to just give it to you straight. What he 43 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 1: has experienced, what he knows, what he doesn't know. He's 44 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 1: he's a human being just like the rest of us, 45 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:32,519 Speaker 1: and he's made mistakes, He's learned from him and he's 46 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:34,640 Speaker 1: gotten better. I think there's some cool things we can 47 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:37,960 Speaker 1: learn from him here too. So today I'm putting him 48 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:40,079 Speaker 1: through the what would you do? Gauntlet, going to get 49 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 1: some interesting perspective on things from the Southeast, Gonna learn 50 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:45,520 Speaker 1: a little bit more about how he tackles these short 51 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:48,080 Speaker 1: traveling hunts. You're going to try to pick a few 52 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 1: things from him. From someone who gets a chance to 53 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 1: take his shots at lots of deer every single year, 54 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:55,240 Speaker 1: you know, what can you learn from somebody like that 55 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 1: when it comes to improving your shot sequence and dealing 56 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:01,080 Speaker 1: with buck fever all that kind stuff. This is a 57 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 1: good one. It was a fun one. I appreciate Tyler 58 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:06,160 Speaker 1: jourding this and uh I think you guys will enjoy 59 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:08,960 Speaker 1: it too. Now, real quick, before we get to the 60 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:10,679 Speaker 1: main show, I want to give you a couple of 61 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 1: quick plugs. If you are not already, highly recommend you 62 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:18,080 Speaker 1: sign up for the Wired to Hunt weekly newsletter. You 63 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 1: can do that by going over to the meat eater 64 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 1: dot com sign up on the newsletter there. That's where 65 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:26,400 Speaker 1: you'll get my every Monday note in which I kind 66 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 1: of update you on what's new in my world or 67 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 1: what's new with wired to Hunt, things like that, maybe 68 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 1: a quick tip for the week. Uh, And then as 69 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 1: well well that we also then share with you the 70 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 1: latest content from meat Eater and Wired Hunt's whitetail world. 71 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 1: So we've got all of our podcasts on there are 72 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 1: YouTube videos or articles. That's where you can stay up 73 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 1: to date on all of those things. 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It was one of my favorite new 109 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 1: pieces last year when I got to use the proto 110 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:37,919 Speaker 1: and uh, I think you guys will really dig it 111 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 1: to So all that stuff you can find if you 112 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 1: go to my gear recommendations on the first Light site. 113 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 1: That's store dot the meat eater dot com slash mark, 114 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:51,839 Speaker 1: So just go to the Mediator store slash mark and 115 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 1: you'll find those things listed there as well as a 116 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 1: few of the other items that I highly recommend from 117 00:05:56,800 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 1: first Light too. So that is it. That's my plug. 118 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 1: Appreciate you joining me. I hope you've been enjoying this series. 119 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:07,919 Speaker 1: We've been kind of trying to get a really diverse 120 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 1: mix of folks. We've had like Land Manager with Grant Woods. 121 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:13,600 Speaker 1: We had like the public land d i y do 122 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:16,359 Speaker 1: with Eddie Claypool. Now I've got Tyler who's done some 123 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:19,360 Speaker 1: more private lands and lease some outfitted stuff. I've been 124 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 1: all over the country and had those unique experiences. And 125 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 1: then next week we've got another door pounder, d I 126 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:27,720 Speaker 1: O Y Hunter, who I think you guys would really 127 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:29,920 Speaker 1: get a kick out of as well. So I'm hoping 128 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 1: we're all going to learn something from these very different 129 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 1: deer hunters that are all successful in their own ways. 130 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 1: I dig it, that's the way I like to learn. 131 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:41,719 Speaker 1: I hope you do too. Let's get to the show 132 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 1: all right here with me now on the podcast, we've 133 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 1: got Tyler Jordan's Tyler, thank you so much for making 134 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 1: time to do this, Mark, thanks for having me on Dear. 135 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 1: Season's fast approaching, and I know, like everybody probably listening 136 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 1: right now, I'm starting to get the edge a little bit. 137 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:00,359 Speaker 1: Yeah I am. I am right there of you, And 138 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 1: so I think you know, like I was telling me 139 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 1: a second ago, this format of episode we're gonna do 140 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:08,239 Speaker 1: is one of the best ways I know to scratch 141 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 1: that edge leading in this season, because we're gonna kind 142 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:13,520 Speaker 1: of spitball on a whole bunch of scenarios that we 143 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 1: might find ourselves in here in a in a matter 144 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 1: of weeks. So I think it should be fun. Sounds good. So, Tyler, 145 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 1: I've got what I call the what would you do 146 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 1: gauntlet plan for it Today, basically, what that means, I'm 147 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:32,680 Speaker 1: going to present you with a bunch of hypothetical hunting scenarios. 148 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:36,680 Speaker 1: Some of them are kind of fun to imagine, some 149 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 1: of them are real doozies to imagine. It's going to 150 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 1: take you to a dark place and you're not gonna 151 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 1: like me anymore. But but I think, you know, I 152 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 1: think by walking through these and kind of thinking through 153 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 1: like how you'd approach it, I think we'll get to 154 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 1: learn and get an interesting look into kind of how 155 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 1: you approach deer hunting. And what I love about what 156 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 1: I've been doing with this podcast over the years. I 157 00:07:57,600 --> 00:08:00,080 Speaker 1: guess I'm sure you've seen the same thing is that 158 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:03,760 Speaker 1: there are just a million different ways to skin a 159 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 1: cat when it comes to deer hunting, right, I mean, 160 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 1: I'm sure you've seen. They'll be like one guy who 161 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 1: is a great deer hunter who will say, well, you 162 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 1: gotta do it this way in November and you've got 163 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 1: us at this place in this place, and then in 164 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 1: December you have to do this, And then you'll meet 165 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 1: some other person who's really really good too, and they 166 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 1: might tell you the exact opposite thing, right, I mean 167 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 1: it's that's right. Have you seen what I've seen as 168 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 1: far as just this crazy array of different approaches to 169 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:31,560 Speaker 1: this deer hunting. Yes, And I think there's you know, 170 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:34,560 Speaker 1: there's not just a simple blanket answer for everything. And 171 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:37,320 Speaker 1: I think you know, you probably agree a lot of 172 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 1: that has to do just based off your location of 173 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 1: where you're hunting. You know, how I approach deer hunting 174 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 1: and Georgia versus how I might approach a late season 175 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 1: deer hunting Nebraska, Montana, Kansas is going to be a 176 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:52,440 Speaker 1: whole lot different. Um. So it's just not as simple 177 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:55,679 Speaker 1: as saying, here's what everybody should do this time of year. Uh, 178 00:08:55,720 --> 00:08:58,720 Speaker 1: you know your food sources and uh, you know what 179 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:02,320 Speaker 1: stage of the rut you know certain states maybe in 180 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:03,960 Speaker 1: I mean that's going to determine a lot of your 181 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:09,680 Speaker 1: approach um and how you attack uh, every situation. So 182 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:13,600 Speaker 1: you know, you're hosting realtory road trips and I think 183 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:16,959 Speaker 1: you probably could speak to this better than anyone. But 184 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:19,680 Speaker 1: I've always kind of said that if you want to 185 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 1: up your deer hunting game, the simplest, fastest way you 186 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:26,880 Speaker 1: could do it is to start traveling to deer hunt 187 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:28,960 Speaker 1: and hunt new places because it just forces you to 188 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 1: relearn so many things to to do what you just said, 189 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 1: which has learned all these different regional things. It just 190 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 1: takes you out your comfort zone. Would you agree with that? 191 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:38,440 Speaker 1: I mean, has that been the case for you traveling 192 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:41,960 Speaker 1: going on all these road trips all over the country. Yes, yes, 193 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 1: it definitely has. You know, how I deer hunt here 194 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 1: the start of the season is completely different than how 195 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 1: I hunt in Nebraska, which is where I've been for 196 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:52,600 Speaker 1: the last three or four years hunting um and so 197 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 1: learning you know, different deers habits. Uh, you know in 198 00:09:55,920 --> 00:10:00,160 Speaker 1: the Midwest versus a Southeast. Um. You know, it's it's 199 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:03,280 Speaker 1: a completely different style and a totally different approach. You know, 200 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:06,559 Speaker 1: how you scout is completely different. You know, we're in Georgia. 201 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:09,320 Speaker 1: We rely a lot on trail cameras. Uh, you know, 202 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:12,240 Speaker 1: food plots, you know that we've planted versus when I 203 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 1: you know, start up in Nebraska early season. You know, 204 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:16,880 Speaker 1: we're doing a lot of glassing. That's how we find 205 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 1: a majority of our deer um and then we kind 206 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:21,960 Speaker 1: of make a game plan and go from there with 207 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:25,880 Speaker 1: hanging stands and um, you know, getting ready for the season. 208 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:28,400 Speaker 1: So you know, definitely if you really want to increase 209 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:31,320 Speaker 1: your knowledge and you know, or even find out how 210 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:33,320 Speaker 1: much of a douney you might be too. You know, 211 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:35,160 Speaker 1: is going to some of these places. You know, you 212 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:38,200 Speaker 1: think you know a lot about your deer, uh you know, 213 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:40,320 Speaker 1: but you really get tested when you go and try 214 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 1: other places. But to me, it's just it's fun. Um, 215 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:46,440 Speaker 1: That's that to me is what is most fun about 216 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:50,600 Speaker 1: hunting is every season visiting these different states, you learn 217 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:55,319 Speaker 1: a little bit of something different that you didn't know before. So, uh, 218 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:57,840 Speaker 1: you know, that's that's really the joy that I get 219 00:10:57,720 --> 00:11:00,959 Speaker 1: in doing this every year. Yeah, I'm right there with you. 220 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 1: So you mentioned how you know, you approach thems differently 221 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:08,439 Speaker 1: down in Georgia, and that kind of ties in perfectly 222 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 1: the first scenario I wanted to run by us. So 223 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 1: let's just jump right into this. And I think this 224 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:16,440 Speaker 1: is something that this scenario I'm gonna paint for you 225 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:19,640 Speaker 1: is something that you basically lived, I think last year 226 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 1: to a degree. So you probably have some firsthand experience 227 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 1: to share here. But but here's the situation. Let's say 228 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:29,840 Speaker 1: it's late July and a world class buck shows on 229 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 1: trail camera on your home farm, and it's it's a 230 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 1: situation that's like there's no other buck you want. He's 231 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 1: the one, He's the only one, and it's it's a 232 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 1: maybe a once in a at a decade opportunity, or 233 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:47,720 Speaker 1: maybe more. You know, what would you do just in 234 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 1: the month of August. Let's say all you have is 235 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:53,080 Speaker 1: the weekends in August to get some work done, to 236 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 1: get whatever final preparations you need to get done, whether 237 00:11:57,040 --> 00:11:59,719 Speaker 1: that be habitat work or stand prep or scouting or 238 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 1: any thing. What are the most important things you could 239 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:06,679 Speaker 1: do during those three or four weekends in August leading 240 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 1: into this season trying to kill that one special buck. 241 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:12,960 Speaker 1: What would you do in that situation? Well, well, Mark, 242 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:14,720 Speaker 1: I feel like I don't know, you know, for for 243 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:17,960 Speaker 1: people to have seen it. The biggest deer I took 244 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 1: was actually last year, and it was actually the exact 245 00:12:20,360 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 1: same scenario that you just laid out. I shot my biggest, 246 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:26,440 Speaker 1: my biggest deer with a bow, the biggest deer that 247 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 1: we've taken in Georgia, gross nine. And when we started 248 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 1: getting those pictures, pictures late in July and August um, 249 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 1: it was all of you know, how do we not 250 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:38,800 Speaker 1: mess this up. So um, you know, he was on 251 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:43,000 Speaker 1: camera very consistently. Um, you know, in in in Georgia, 252 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 1: just like other places too. I mean you don't know 253 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:47,800 Speaker 1: how long they're going to stay on that pattern. So 254 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:49,839 Speaker 1: you know that really those first few days of the 255 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 1: season are gonna be very very crucial, um, you know, 256 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:56,680 Speaker 1: to really make sure everything is done right. And so 257 00:12:57,080 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 1: you know, we had two cameras out, multiple stands put 258 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:05,840 Speaker 1: out as well for different winds situations. Um. You know, 259 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 1: in those weekends in August, we did a lot of 260 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:11,960 Speaker 1: you know prep and just you know, trimming limbs with 261 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 1: those stands. We have two ladder stands up. The first 262 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:20,280 Speaker 1: first the first couple sits were you know not successful. 263 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 1: We we blew some deer out of there. But um, 264 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 1: you know that that and that's a problem to here 265 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:29,160 Speaker 1: is that you have a lot of light and variable 266 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 1: winds early season, um you know here in Georgia, so 267 00:13:33,160 --> 00:13:37,280 Speaker 1: you know, just trying to to play that wind um 268 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:40,280 Speaker 1: and and having stand you know, stand locations already done 269 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 1: before the season gets here. You know that that to 270 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:45,720 Speaker 1: me is the most crucial. And just making sure you 271 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:49,080 Speaker 1: have shooting lanes as well, just that that extra trimming 272 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:51,840 Speaker 1: that you can do during the summer makes all the difference. 273 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:53,680 Speaker 1: And you know, for us, we film a lot of 274 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:55,679 Speaker 1: our hunts too, so making sure that the the other 275 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:59,319 Speaker 1: guy in the tree, um, you know, has has lanes 276 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:04,080 Speaker 1: to see through, UM is very crucial. Yeah, how did 277 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:07,200 Speaker 1: you drill down to you know, exactly where you thought 278 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 1: you were gonna kill this buck? Was it just like you? 279 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:11,600 Speaker 1: He showed up on one of your cameras and he 280 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:13,320 Speaker 1: kept showing there and so you just knew, well, this 281 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:15,560 Speaker 1: is the spot or did you have to you know, 282 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:17,800 Speaker 1: cast a wider net with cameras to kind of figure 283 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:19,760 Speaker 1: out where he was the most? Like how did you 284 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 1: zero in? Yes? So he was he was first coming 285 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 1: uh to this to this field we had planted in 286 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:30,200 Speaker 1: clover and chickery. That was where we first got the 287 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:33,200 Speaker 1: first couple of weeks of pictures of him. Um. And 288 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 1: then you know, as it started getting closer to the season, 289 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:38,360 Speaker 1: the deer was getting less and less frequent on this 290 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:42,000 Speaker 1: on this camera, and so you know, we we decided 291 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:46,000 Speaker 1: that that we're going to try a couple of different 292 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 1: cameras and putting them out kind of where these where 293 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 1: we assumed some of these deer were betting, and you 294 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:55,920 Speaker 1: know we're going up the hill near the betting location, uh, 295 00:14:55,960 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 1: you know, but not getting too close, trying to still 296 00:14:58,280 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 1: keep some distance between you know, where the deer were 297 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 1: bettered to where the cameras were. Uh and then you know, 298 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:06,400 Speaker 1: flow and behold. You know, he started getting on a 299 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:09,440 Speaker 1: very regular pattern and we didn't. And I think another 300 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:12,480 Speaker 1: key for that deer in particular was just not going 301 00:15:12,480 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 1: in there too much, you know, you said, using the weekends, 302 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 1: you know, we tried to make sure there was enough 303 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:19,680 Speaker 1: feed down because you can legally bait here in Georgia 304 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 1: from where the deer was being seen. Um, and you know, 305 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:26,800 Speaker 1: trying to make make it a minimum of every five 306 00:15:26,880 --> 00:15:29,240 Speaker 1: or six days before we you know, made it another 307 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:33,240 Speaker 1: appearance um in the woods where this deer was was 308 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 1: coming to. So um, not going in there too much, 309 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:39,000 Speaker 1: you know, finding getting somewhere a little bit off the 310 00:15:39,040 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 1: beaten path, um, you know, was was critical and kind 311 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:46,960 Speaker 1: of determining. And you know, and a deer like this, 312 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:49,720 Speaker 1: I mean it just kind of flipped the switch. Uh, 313 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:52,280 Speaker 1: you know, just moving up there and trying something different. 314 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 1: He started getting on a pattern just regular every day, 315 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 1: just felt very comfortable and I think that's just because 316 00:15:57,720 --> 00:16:00,480 Speaker 1: the woods that time of year are so thick. He 317 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:03,360 Speaker 1: felt safe in there. Um. You know, for anybody that's 318 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:06,560 Speaker 1: seen the episode, you can tell you can't see really 319 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 1: past forty or fifty yards, you know where my ladder 320 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 1: stam was hung. So, um, you know, it just felt 321 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 1: like a really safe spot to him. Yeah. So here's 322 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 1: another scenario that I think it ties very closely to 323 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 1: what actually happened with that dear. But it's also a 324 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:25,160 Speaker 1: thing like I've encountered a number of times over the years, 325 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 1: and I always debate it. So the situation is this, 326 00:16:28,920 --> 00:16:31,760 Speaker 1: You're getting daylight trail camera's cherio camp pictures of the 327 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 1: buck you're after, just like you were in those days 328 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 1: leading up to the opener. The problem is opening day 329 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:41,000 Speaker 1: is now, you know, let's say it's tomorrow in the forecast, 330 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 1: and you can see what opening day looks like, and 331 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 1: you can see what the next one to three days 332 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:48,080 Speaker 1: after that looks like, and you've got horrible conditions. It's hot, 333 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:52,120 Speaker 1: maybe the winds kind of subpar, and you're sitting here thinking. 334 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:54,440 Speaker 1: At least you know, for me in Michigan, when I'm 335 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:57,440 Speaker 1: haunting looking at opening Day, I know that first day 336 00:16:57,640 --> 00:17:00,640 Speaker 1: is such a great opportunity because they have haven't been hunted, 337 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 1: and the next day might be pretty good. But those 338 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:04,800 Speaker 1: first two days, so many of the people in the 339 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 1: area start hunting to that Usually my daylight activity peters 340 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:11,360 Speaker 1: out pretty quick, so I know those first few days 341 00:17:11,359 --> 00:17:14,399 Speaker 1: are usually a great, great chance. So the question is this, 342 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:18,280 Speaker 1: do you hunt opening day regardless of the bad conditions 343 00:17:18,320 --> 00:17:20,480 Speaker 1: because it's it's still opening day and it's still like 344 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:24,480 Speaker 1: a great opportunity. Or do you stay out because you 345 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 1: don't want to mess things up on those poor conditions 346 00:17:26,560 --> 00:17:29,400 Speaker 1: and just hope that they'll stick around and stay daylight 347 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:32,879 Speaker 1: despite the possibility of neighboring pressure. What would you do 348 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:36,720 Speaker 1: in that situation? So I'll answer this, but I didn't 349 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 1: end up taking my own advice. So on this dear, 350 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:44,360 Speaker 1: it was exactly that scenario. Um, you know, we we did, 351 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:46,560 Speaker 1: you know, have some neighbors. I'm sure they were getting 352 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:49,160 Speaker 1: pictures of this dear. Uh. You know, I even had 353 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:53,040 Speaker 1: somebody late season the year before have pictures of this buck, 354 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:55,719 Speaker 1: so I knew he was a roamer. Um, you know, 355 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:58,119 Speaker 1: but that opening day, the wind was not good. You know, 356 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:00,560 Speaker 1: we have a lot of predominant east wind here early 357 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:03,800 Speaker 1: season in Georgia, which is honestly for any of our stands, 358 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:05,920 Speaker 1: and you know, the way our land kind of lays out, 359 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:08,480 Speaker 1: it's it's not a good win to go and sit. 360 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:11,159 Speaker 1: But I ended up, you know, going to try it 361 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 1: because the deer was just that regular, and I was 362 00:18:13,040 --> 00:18:16,280 Speaker 1: so worried that once he got off that summer pattern, uh, 363 00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 1: that maybe we never see him again, because the year before, 364 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:22,480 Speaker 1: the last picture we had of this year was September 365 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:24,320 Speaker 1: twenty nine, and then we never saw him for the 366 00:18:24,359 --> 00:18:27,680 Speaker 1: rest of the season our property. Um, so I was 367 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:30,800 Speaker 1: a little concerned that, you know, our our time was 368 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:33,520 Speaker 1: kind of it was very critical, you know, in order 369 00:18:33,560 --> 00:18:36,080 Speaker 1: to order to get it done. Uh, you know, we 370 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:39,080 Speaker 1: needed we needed it needed to happen pretty quick. So 371 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:42,919 Speaker 1: I went in there that first afternoon. Um, you know, 372 00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:45,920 Speaker 1: we had some dear blow and and get out of there, 373 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:47,960 Speaker 1: and so I said, look, I'm not going back in 374 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:51,159 Speaker 1: there until the conditions are just right. I think that 375 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:54,240 Speaker 1: the opener last year was on September twelve, and I 376 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:58,120 Speaker 1: waited another i think eleven days until I got back 377 00:18:58,160 --> 00:19:01,080 Speaker 1: in there when we had a we finally got a 378 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:03,760 Speaker 1: north wind and the deer. I think it took the deer. 379 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:05,359 Speaker 1: You know, when we had some of those deer blow 380 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:07,879 Speaker 1: in there. It took some of those deer another four 381 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:10,840 Speaker 1: or five days just to get regular and comfortable again. UM. 382 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:13,000 Speaker 1: Kind of going back to that same strategy that we 383 00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:15,560 Speaker 1: had in August of you know, not going in there 384 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:18,160 Speaker 1: but every you know, five or six days and and 385 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:21,520 Speaker 1: just trying to leave it alone. UM. You know. So 386 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:24,080 Speaker 1: I had to wait another eleven days, which was really painful. 387 00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:27,399 Speaker 1: But I think after seeing that happen on opening day, 388 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:29,960 Speaker 1: even though like you said, it is you know, the 389 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:33,480 Speaker 1: best chance to to possibly get it done. And you 390 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:35,920 Speaker 1: just see that deer coming in you know, morning and 391 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:39,199 Speaker 1: in the evening. Um, in the daylight, it's tough to 392 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:43,520 Speaker 1: it's tough to resist. UM. But I cannot. But I 393 00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:47,399 Speaker 1: can honestly say I wish and I think, you know, 394 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 1: but some of the wind here it can be so 395 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:53,720 Speaker 1: it doesn't blow just hard one direction. So I was like, man, 396 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 1: you know, no matter what, you know, am I going 397 00:19:56,359 --> 00:19:59,119 Speaker 1: to get a strong enough win, um for it to 398 00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:03,000 Speaker 1: even really matter an a way. But UM, and that 399 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:05,359 Speaker 1: in that situation, if I had just waited until the 400 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:07,119 Speaker 1: time and it was just right, maybe it could have 401 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 1: played out even better. Um. So you know, it's really 402 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:14,159 Speaker 1: tough to say. I mean, i'd like to think I 403 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:18,439 Speaker 1: wouldn't do it again, but you just never know, like 404 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 1: if it if it wasn't just the right situation there 405 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:25,520 Speaker 1: on September, um, I'm not sure if I would have 406 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 1: had that opportunity um at that day or so. But 407 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:32,560 Speaker 1: I think, you know, going forward, I'd like to maybe 408 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:35,720 Speaker 1: leave it, leave it alone as much as possible until 409 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 1: it's just right. It seems like that's that's usually the 410 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 1: safer Betton and I always have been the same camp 411 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 1: as you, where I've always said that, like in my head, 412 00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:45,560 Speaker 1: I always think, oh, yeah, you should, you should wait 413 00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:47,840 Speaker 1: it out, you should be careful. But every time Opening 414 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:50,919 Speaker 1: Night comes through, somehow I'm I convinced myself, I you 415 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:53,159 Speaker 1: still got to be out there? Is that for one time? 416 00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:57,120 Speaker 1: So one time, Tyler, I convinced myself that, no, you're 417 00:20:57,119 --> 00:21:00,840 Speaker 1: not gonna hunt Opening Night. It's too warm. It's just great. 418 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:03,120 Speaker 1: And tomorrow, the second day of this season, a cold 419 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:05,000 Speaker 1: front hit. So I was like, all right, I'm gonna 420 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:07,560 Speaker 1: be strong, I'm gonna stick to my guns. I'm gonna 421 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:09,480 Speaker 1: do the smart thing, I won't hunt the first night 422 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:11,359 Speaker 1: because tomorrow will be so good. But what I did 423 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:14,080 Speaker 1: is I sat on a hill like three yards away 424 00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:16,399 Speaker 1: and was gonna glass the area. I thought I'd do 425 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:20,879 Speaker 1: a little extra scouting, and of course I saw my 426 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:23,680 Speaker 1: target buck walk twenty yards away from the tree stand. 427 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:26,240 Speaker 1: I would have hunted on opening night. So the one 428 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:28,639 Speaker 1: the one time I did the thing you're supposed to do, 429 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 1: it didn't work out. But and that's just the thing. 430 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:35,199 Speaker 1: It's just it's just so tough. I mean, you know, 431 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:37,199 Speaker 1: you know, you just never know. And like I was 432 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 1: doing the same thing, you know, the night before the season, 433 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:41,439 Speaker 1: I was like, what do I do? And then I 434 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:43,520 Speaker 1: looked at the forecast for the next ten days and 435 00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:46,719 Speaker 1: we had predominantly east wind the whole time, east southeast, 436 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:49,520 Speaker 1: which is the worst win you could have. So I said, 437 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:51,199 Speaker 1: you know, if if I'm gonna try it, maybe go 438 00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:54,120 Speaker 1: ahead and try it early and then hopefully I can 439 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:56,680 Speaker 1: you know, recover if if things don't go according to plan, 440 00:21:57,280 --> 00:21:58,639 Speaker 1: you know, maybe I can give it some time and 441 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:01,479 Speaker 1: in that area, will you know, the uh, just not 442 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:03,760 Speaker 1: put any pressure in there for a while until things 443 00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:06,440 Speaker 1: are just right. And so you know, Luckily it worked 444 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:09,800 Speaker 1: out in that deer. Um. I think it took us 445 00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:12,399 Speaker 1: four days to have that deer showback up on camera, 446 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:14,840 Speaker 1: you know, and he that's a deer that was regular 447 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 1: every single day from the end of July until the 448 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:20,960 Speaker 1: start of the season. So Um, luckily that he felt 449 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 1: comfortable enough to come back. But you know, sometimes they don't. 450 00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:27,119 Speaker 1: And that's just the risk you take. Yeah, keeps us 451 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:30,439 Speaker 1: coming back again, right, keeps us coming back. You know, 452 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:33,720 Speaker 1: it's not always easy too. That's just that's part of 453 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:36,760 Speaker 1: the game you play. Yeah, all right, here's another one. 454 00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:43,320 Speaker 1: Let's let's imagine that unfortunately for you, you lose access 455 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:47,080 Speaker 1: to this Nebraska spot you've been hunting recently, but you 456 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:49,200 Speaker 1: still want to go out to that region. Let's say 457 00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:51,200 Speaker 1: you know, it could be Nebraska or one of these 458 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 1: you know, western Great Plain states or Midwest you know, Kansas, Iowa, Nebraska, 459 00:22:56,359 --> 00:23:00,920 Speaker 1: South Dakota, something like that, and you decide that since 460 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:02,760 Speaker 1: you don't have your old spot, you're gonna take up 461 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:05,479 Speaker 1: A buddy who had a long time ago said hey, 462 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:08,640 Speaker 1: you can come hunt my family property anytime. So you said, okay, 463 00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 1: I'm gonna pinch, I'm gonna go hunt my friends property. 464 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:15,520 Speaker 1: You've never been there before, though, so you're gonna show 465 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:18,680 Speaker 1: up day one. It's you know, the season is open, 466 00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:21,920 Speaker 1: it's mid September, let's say, and you're showing up to 467 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:23,960 Speaker 1: see this place for the very first time. You you 468 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:26,040 Speaker 1: weren't able to get there in the summer to scout 469 00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:29,040 Speaker 1: or anything, so you you have no knowledge. All you 470 00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:31,720 Speaker 1: know is that your buddy has said, Hey, this is 471 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:34,320 Speaker 1: these are the property lines. You've got free rain, there's 472 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:37,960 Speaker 1: deer here. What would you do on day one of 473 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:41,040 Speaker 1: this hunt? Would you start hunting right away? Would you scout? 474 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:44,000 Speaker 1: Would you hang cameras? What does that first day look 475 00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:46,840 Speaker 1: like on this brand new place? Yeah? I think the 476 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:49,639 Speaker 1: first day I'm gonna ask is where's the food? Um? 477 00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:52,760 Speaker 1: You know that's kind of when whenever I hunt out 478 00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:55,399 Speaker 1: in that part of the country, is you know, where's 479 00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:58,720 Speaker 1: the food at? Another thing I might do, and this 480 00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:01,680 Speaker 1: is proven to be successful for us out there in 481 00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:04,439 Speaker 1: that part of the country, but is to find, you know, 482 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:08,560 Speaker 1: whatever trees that are available on some of these uh 483 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:11,320 Speaker 1: maybe deer trails and just seeing you know, some of 484 00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:13,720 Speaker 1: the some of the routesies deer taken you know to 485 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:16,840 Speaker 1: and from. Uh you know if it's alfalfa that time 486 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:18,760 Speaker 1: of year, I know that's you know, really popular for 487 00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 1: us in our region of Nebraska in Montana. UM. But 488 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:25,120 Speaker 1: you know those would be my my number, that would 489 00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:26,760 Speaker 1: be my one and two things. As where as the 490 00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:29,680 Speaker 1: food um, and where can I get a trail camera at? 491 00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:32,960 Speaker 1: It may not tell you the full picture? And then uh, 492 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:36,240 Speaker 1: you know, especially in Montana, and is the exact same 493 00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:38,920 Speaker 1: way as is there anywhere I can get advantage point 494 00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:41,720 Speaker 1: where I can get go glass from you know, glassing 495 00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:45,840 Speaker 1: a lot of these places in Nebraska and in the 496 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:49,240 Speaker 1: Milk River where I have a lot of I've spent 497 00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:51,760 Speaker 1: a lot of time over the years, can really tell 498 00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:55,240 Speaker 1: you a lot more so than even a trail camera can. UM. 499 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:57,200 Speaker 1: So if there's anywhere that I can get and sit 500 00:24:57,280 --> 00:25:00,320 Speaker 1: far enough off that where I don't disturb anything or 501 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:03,240 Speaker 1: mess it up, um you know, and then maybe after 502 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:06,479 Speaker 1: a day or two of doing that, then maybe you 503 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:09,920 Speaker 1: start you know, game planning um or maybe some word 504 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:12,600 Speaker 1: to hang a stand and um, you know that could 505 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:17,399 Speaker 1: be another option too, is you know sometimes um, you know, 506 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:20,480 Speaker 1: when I first started hunting this this region of Nebraska, 507 00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:24,280 Speaker 1: was getting in a tree stand where you're close, but 508 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:26,399 Speaker 1: you're not close enough to where you're gonna go in 509 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:28,480 Speaker 1: there maybe mess it up. I didn't really expect to 510 00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:31,200 Speaker 1: go in there and be successful, but it did tell 511 00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:34,320 Speaker 1: me a lot about the deer's habits. Um, you know, 512 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:37,320 Speaker 1: maybe what trails and routes they were taking to the 513 00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:41,000 Speaker 1: alf alfa in the evening so, um, you know that 514 00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:42,960 Speaker 1: time of year, it's it's really tough to hunt in 515 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:46,200 Speaker 1: the mornings at least where I'm at um, So I 516 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:48,960 Speaker 1: would definitely you know, stay off that and and hunt 517 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:52,280 Speaker 1: primarily in the evenings. Um, just a little bit of 518 00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:55,399 Speaker 1: a safer bed if you're gonna be there for a while. Yeah. 519 00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:58,879 Speaker 1: So so glassing, you know that first morning sounds like 520 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:01,320 Speaker 1: that you mentioned wanting to you know, find those trails 521 00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:04,160 Speaker 1: and the trees that they're passing through, possibly putting those 522 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:07,440 Speaker 1: cameras up. Is that something you'd be you know, cruising 523 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:10,080 Speaker 1: around midday that first day doing that? And would you 524 00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:12,200 Speaker 1: be on foot to scout? Would you drive in a truck, 525 00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:15,280 Speaker 1: would you take a bike or four wheel or something like? 526 00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:17,400 Speaker 1: How would you what would be this the way you'd 527 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:20,240 Speaker 1: want to do that kind of preliminary day one scouting? 528 00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:24,040 Speaker 1: How would you do that usually. Yeah. So I know 529 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:28,399 Speaker 1: what I've done in the in the past is we 530 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:31,040 Speaker 1: have these these bikes that we take just an electric 531 00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:33,800 Speaker 1: bike and um, I have a little car that I 532 00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:37,120 Speaker 1: can you know, put my cameras on and and uh, 533 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:39,159 Speaker 1: you know, not try to ride anything that's gonna be 534 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:42,560 Speaker 1: too loud. And you know those bikes are pretty stealthy. Um. 535 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:46,040 Speaker 1: So you know, using that to to try and go 536 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:48,440 Speaker 1: and find as many places or if you find a 537 00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:54,200 Speaker 1: water hole or um, you know, different different trails. Um. 538 00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:56,119 Speaker 1: You know. The only problem is it's like there's just 539 00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:58,639 Speaker 1: sometimes not a ton of trees, like you know, sometimes 540 00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:01,600 Speaker 1: you gotta get a little creative and maybe maybe even 541 00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:04,840 Speaker 1: find like a a stick or you know, something you 542 00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:06,680 Speaker 1: can stick on the ground and tie camera on too, 543 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:09,240 Speaker 1: u you know, to see you know where some of 544 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:14,600 Speaker 1: these deer maybe coming. I've had to do that many times. Um. Um. 545 00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:18,360 Speaker 1: So you know that that first day is is uh 546 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:20,600 Speaker 1: that I'd be doing a lot of that, just trying 547 00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:23,560 Speaker 1: to get around there as quietly as possible, and you know, 548 00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:27,159 Speaker 1: um doing that mostly you know, during the middle of 549 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:29,200 Speaker 1: the day, you know, not the first thing in the morning. 550 00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:33,159 Speaker 1: I'd say, you know, early season, anywhere between you know, 551 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:37,280 Speaker 1: ten and maybe one or two o'clock. Uh, you know 552 00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:42,000 Speaker 1: that'd be the time to go scouting glass. What what's 553 00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:44,520 Speaker 1: the bike you're using these days? I'm actually finally I 554 00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:46,280 Speaker 1: finally decided I need to get me one of these. 555 00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:48,159 Speaker 1: So I'm trying to get some intel from folks to 556 00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:50,560 Speaker 1: see what they like the most. What's uh, what's your 557 00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:55,640 Speaker 1: take on that? So we're actually sponsored by back Who 558 00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:58,920 Speaker 1: Bikes and so back Who. I mean they they've been 559 00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:02,920 Speaker 1: great too, and um, you know even for the Georgia dear. Um, 560 00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:05,879 Speaker 1: you know, I don't like riding anything just too loud 561 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:10,160 Speaker 1: and it it's it's crazy that you know you're able 562 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:12,440 Speaker 1: to cover as much ground and you know, I mean 563 00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:14,840 Speaker 1: we and even turkey hunting to we run those things 564 00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:18,720 Speaker 1: all day long. Um. You know, I have the mule 565 00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:23,159 Speaker 1: Elite Electric Byte from Backou and Um, you're able to 566 00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:25,919 Speaker 1: cover a lot of ground in those and you know 567 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:29,600 Speaker 1: you really feel like you're it's probably the safest way 568 00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:33,400 Speaker 1: to go undetected. Um, at least for me, I've I've 569 00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:35,960 Speaker 1: found a I found that better than you know, leaving 570 00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:39,360 Speaker 1: my scent, you know, by walking and doing it that way. 571 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:41,440 Speaker 1: I just I feel like you know, the safer you 572 00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:43,600 Speaker 1: can be the better. Yeah, they just seem to be 573 00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:49,440 Speaker 1: so much more forgiving of wheeled access to Yes, yeah, 574 00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:54,280 Speaker 1: it's it's been nice to have. My next question is 575 00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:59,040 Speaker 1: this same scenario, same exact scenario, same exact question, except 576 00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:03,520 Speaker 1: let's chee is the date from mid September to now November? 577 00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:06,680 Speaker 1: Would would your day one be different now that you're 578 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:11,440 Speaker 1: showing up brand new on this place in November? Anything different? Yeah? 579 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:15,040 Speaker 1: I would say, you know, probably probably something different. Um, 580 00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:18,480 Speaker 1: definitely bring a grunt call and rattling horns. Um, you know, 581 00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:21,200 Speaker 1: and maybe some of those places that you did have 582 00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:23,800 Speaker 1: a tree stand hung if you were just trying to 583 00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:30,520 Speaker 1: go get inventory. Um and we're talking about bow hunting right, yes, yeah, 584 00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:35,600 Speaker 1: you know, I would say, you know, definitely definitely get 585 00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:37,840 Speaker 1: somewhere where you can get maybe even a little bit 586 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 1: closer to the action. Um, you know, just in case, 587 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:44,600 Speaker 1: and you know, a grunt call that timing year has 588 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:48,760 Speaker 1: been proven deadly. Um. You know, so rattling horns. We 589 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:52,200 Speaker 1: rattled up so many deer um even that first second 590 00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:55,120 Speaker 1: week in November. Um, it can it can just be 591 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:59,600 Speaker 1: starting to get really good. And you know another thing 592 00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:02,920 Speaker 1: we've been and two and is uh those Dave Smith decoys, 593 00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:06,720 Speaker 1: they've been they've been great to have. I'm not afraid, 594 00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:09,840 Speaker 1: you know, maybe in Georgia, I wouldn't be wouldn't be 595 00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:13,680 Speaker 1: uh maybe willing to do that or as lucky, um, 596 00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:17,160 Speaker 1: you know, but I've I've had several successful hunts and 597 00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:21,000 Speaker 1: you know, different people we've bought out there over the years. Um, 598 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:23,120 Speaker 1: you know, that's that's been a good strategy as well. 599 00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:25,760 Speaker 1: I mean there's if there's a dominant buck in in 600 00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:28,760 Speaker 1: the alfalfa field or if he can see it. You know, 601 00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:31,200 Speaker 1: I've had some of them see that decoy and come 602 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:34,160 Speaker 1: in from two hundred plush yards, um, just to come 603 00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:39,560 Speaker 1: not that thing over. That's so awesome to see. Oh yeah, 604 00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:41,480 Speaker 1: it's fun. It really is fun. You know. We don't 605 00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:43,200 Speaker 1: we don't get a whole lot of that, you know, 606 00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:45,120 Speaker 1: down here. I don't. I don't really know what it is. 607 00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:47,400 Speaker 1: But the bucks, at least on our property here in 608 00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:50,280 Speaker 1: Georgia are just not quite as aggressive maybe toward a decoy. 609 00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:53,520 Speaker 1: There may be a little bit more weary, um, you know, 610 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:56,560 Speaker 1: of just succumbing to that. So but it's something when 611 00:30:56,560 --> 00:31:00,000 Speaker 1: you get up there and it works, it's pretty fun side, 612 00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:02,800 Speaker 1: even even if you haven't, you know, work on deer 613 00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:07,360 Speaker 1: that are not quote unquote shooters. Um, you know, it's 614 00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:12,160 Speaker 1: it's been proven to be a successful tactic entertaining. If 615 00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:15,440 Speaker 1: nothing else that is that makes for good video. Yeah, 616 00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:32,120 Speaker 1: I bet so. Here here's a very different scenario to consider. 617 00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:35,960 Speaker 1: Let's say you have a shared property with a group 618 00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:39,080 Speaker 1: of hunting buddies. I don't know if it's maybe well, 619 00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:40,760 Speaker 1: let's just say it's like you all share it. So 620 00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:42,479 Speaker 1: maybe it's the least or it's a place you all 621 00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:46,240 Speaker 1: got permission together, or it's a friends you've all pitched 622 00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:48,280 Speaker 1: in throughout the year, you know, to do some prep 623 00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:49,800 Speaker 1: on the farm, and maybe you guys did a little 624 00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:51,680 Speaker 1: bit of habit at work. You all met up and 625 00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:55,080 Speaker 1: put up cameras in the summer, hung trail, tree stands, whatever. 626 00:31:56,080 --> 00:32:00,320 Speaker 1: Now it's the night before your hunt begins, and you're 627 00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:02,880 Speaker 1: sitting in the kitchen and you're having that last beer 628 00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:05,360 Speaker 1: or the night or something like that, and one guy says, 629 00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:08,920 Speaker 1: all right, well where are we gonna sit? So my 630 00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:13,600 Speaker 1: question for you, tyler, is how do you recommend when 631 00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:16,400 Speaker 1: hunting with a group of friends? How do you recommend 632 00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:19,960 Speaker 1: fairly determining how stand sides are picked, like who gets 633 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:22,760 Speaker 1: to pick where they want, how they you know, how 634 00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:24,640 Speaker 1: do you divvy that up? That just seems like one 635 00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:26,840 Speaker 1: of those things that can be a challenge sometimes because 636 00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:29,840 Speaker 1: maybe everybody wants to hunt the one really great funnel. 637 00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:33,040 Speaker 1: How do you do that in a fair equitable way 638 00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:36,240 Speaker 1: and share a place? Dane, That's a good that's a 639 00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:41,080 Speaker 1: really good question. Um, I don't know, you know, I'm 640 00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:44,920 Speaker 1: I've always been Uh, this is not really gonna answer 641 00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:48,480 Speaker 1: your question, but you know, and and yes, I've I've 642 00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:51,320 Speaker 1: been fortunate, you know to go and and and do 643 00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:56,600 Speaker 1: a lot of really cool hunts and different experiences. But um, 644 00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:58,480 Speaker 1: you know what what we try to what I try 645 00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:01,240 Speaker 1: to do is just maybe pick a name out of 646 00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:04,040 Speaker 1: a hat or something. I mean, as as silly as 647 00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:07,280 Speaker 1: that may sound, you know, especially between you know, the 648 00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:09,840 Speaker 1: different people that hunt on the farm. Uh, you know 649 00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:11,640 Speaker 1: a lot of people want to go to one place 650 00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:14,120 Speaker 1: and there's really just no fair way to do it. 651 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:16,280 Speaker 1: You know. You may have that buddy though that's maybe 652 00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:18,880 Speaker 1: put in more works up more work than the others. 653 00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:22,720 Speaker 1: And we've definitely had have had that too. Um, you know, 654 00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:25,040 Speaker 1: I'd say they get the first right of refusal on 655 00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:29,240 Speaker 1: maybe some of that. But um, you know, there's there's 656 00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:31,880 Speaker 1: a there's not a whole lot of ways to to 657 00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:35,000 Speaker 1: fairly do that without maybe getting somebody upset. But I'd 658 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:37,240 Speaker 1: say for the people that are that are there that 659 00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:39,960 Speaker 1: have some sweat equity um into some of the prep 660 00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:43,520 Speaker 1: work that goes on, I would I say should receive 661 00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:46,840 Speaker 1: received first right because you know, as far as like 662 00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:48,440 Speaker 1: a hunt club or if you have a piece of 663 00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:50,920 Speaker 1: land you're hunting with your buddies, there's always going to 664 00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:52,720 Speaker 1: be those people that may be put in a little 665 00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:57,600 Speaker 1: bit more work than the others. Um So that that 666 00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:01,160 Speaker 1: that would that would be maybe my best guests on 667 00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:03,200 Speaker 1: what to do. And then you know you may have 668 00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:06,760 Speaker 1: different um sections of the hunt club that it's you 669 00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:10,200 Speaker 1: know section offer each individual. You know, maybe you have 670 00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:14,919 Speaker 1: pieces of that property where you know that that's that's 671 00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:21,120 Speaker 1: the airs. Yeah, well do that. No, there's not um 672 00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:23,640 Speaker 1: what are some I mean is that is like the 673 00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:27,000 Speaker 1: random name picking out a hat what you've seen on 674 00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:28,480 Speaker 1: a live of your hunts, Because I feel like you've 675 00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:30,279 Speaker 1: been on so many hunts of the years where there's 676 00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:32,040 Speaker 1: like there's always a big crew there's a crew of 677 00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:35,240 Speaker 1: you guys all out there hunting this farm or this place, 678 00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:38,279 Speaker 1: and you're all hunting different areas. I always wonder, like, 679 00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:41,320 Speaker 1: how do they settle on who's gonna hunt where? Um, 680 00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:43,319 Speaker 1: is it something like that you guys usually do, or 681 00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:45,799 Speaker 1: is it sometimes like widel is just gonna call it 682 00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:48,759 Speaker 1: and you guys just live with it, know how to go, 683 00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:53,560 Speaker 1: you know. I mean, you know, I know I keep 684 00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:56,400 Speaker 1: mentioning Nebraska, but that's somewhere where we've had big camps 685 00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:57,680 Speaker 1: and the Milk River has kind of be in the 686 00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:01,280 Speaker 1: same way. You know, if if some anywhere to say, 687 00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:03,359 Speaker 1: you know, get maybe eyes on a deer and say, man, 688 00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:05,440 Speaker 1: I really like that deer. So I mean you want 689 00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:07,960 Speaker 1: to go hunt that deer, we'll I mean we'll feel free, 690 00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:09,640 Speaker 1: you know, we'll try to go help you hang to 691 00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:13,160 Speaker 1: stand or um, you know, help you get something set up, 692 00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:15,920 Speaker 1: and um, you know that. I guess if that person 693 00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:18,480 Speaker 1: wants to call Dibbs, that's that's completely fine. You know. 694 00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:21,000 Speaker 1: I don't get too territorial on any of these deer. 695 00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:22,640 Speaker 1: And I think a lot of people in our group 696 00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:25,200 Speaker 1: are the same way. Um, you know, I just want 697 00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:28,359 Speaker 1: everybody to have a good time. Um. So that's that's 698 00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:30,399 Speaker 1: something that I've I've kind of preached. It is just 699 00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:34,320 Speaker 1: you know, if if somebody has a particular area or 700 00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:36,359 Speaker 1: if they went in glass to spot that they really 701 00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:39,759 Speaker 1: like and they called DIBs on it first and by 702 00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:43,840 Speaker 1: all means go for it. Um. So that's kind of 703 00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:45,960 Speaker 1: how we go about it. You know, we don't really 704 00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:49,080 Speaker 1: designate somebody just to one particular spot. We kind of 705 00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:52,759 Speaker 1: you know, like the good thing about Nebraska where we go, 706 00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:54,520 Speaker 1: we're gonna have three or four days, got there and 707 00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:58,480 Speaker 1: glass and scout and hang stands before and um, you know, 708 00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:01,200 Speaker 1: if there's somebody that says, man, I of this particular 709 00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:04,320 Speaker 1: area and that's yours. If you want it, that's yours. 710 00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:08,560 Speaker 1: So um, that's kind of how we go about doing 711 00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:12,279 Speaker 1: it out there. Yeah. Well, it's it's good to This 712 00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:15,080 Speaker 1: comes back to a decision prior to the hunt itself, 713 00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:18,239 Speaker 1: which is when choosing who you're hunting. Buddies are and 714 00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:20,560 Speaker 1: I think it's important to choose the right group and 715 00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:23,160 Speaker 1: be you know, have the right relationships so that you're 716 00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:25,840 Speaker 1: in a situation where that kind of thing works and 717 00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:27,719 Speaker 1: you guys are rooting for each other and it's not, 718 00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:31,840 Speaker 1: you know, and it's not controversial or combative and people 719 00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:33,719 Speaker 1: are pissed at each other for taking this spot or 720 00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:36,719 Speaker 1: that spot. I mean that that's a recipe for disaster. Yeah. 721 00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:38,879 Speaker 1: We all pull for each other, you know, we all 722 00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:40,799 Speaker 1: we all pull for each other. Man. It's it's uh, 723 00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:43,960 Speaker 1: you know, a big deer for whatever reason. And you know, 724 00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:47,040 Speaker 1: I feel like I have a pretty good perspective on it. 725 00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:49,640 Speaker 1: It can ruin a relationship, it can ruin a friendship. 726 00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:52,719 Speaker 1: But you know that's just not how our group roles. Um. 727 00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:55,080 Speaker 1: You know, the people we have in camp, you know, 728 00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:58,120 Speaker 1: we're there for the experience, the hunt. Um. You know, 729 00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:00,440 Speaker 1: trying to get close to these white tails a challenge 730 00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:04,480 Speaker 1: enough in itself, um, you know, so you know we don't. 731 00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:06,279 Speaker 1: We try not to let gred you know, play a 732 00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:09,960 Speaker 1: factor in it. Um, and just you know, do it 733 00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:11,759 Speaker 1: for the do it for the right reasons. But you 734 00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:15,160 Speaker 1: know for that that isn't that does play out in 735 00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:18,120 Speaker 1: some cases that we've been lucky for the most part. 736 00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:22,680 Speaker 1: That's good. All right. Here's another one for Tyler. You 737 00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:28,160 Speaker 1: are sitting in the tree and you get into the 738 00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:31,399 Speaker 1: last hour of daylight of an evening hunt. You hear 739 00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:33,920 Speaker 1: the crunch, crunch, crunch. You look off in the distance 740 00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:36,799 Speaker 1: and you see uh picket fence come in your way, 741 00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:41,759 Speaker 1: and you very quickly realize that this is a buck 742 00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:44,560 Speaker 1: that will make your Georgia buck look like a chump. 743 00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:48,640 Speaker 1: You realize this is the biggest buck you will probably 744 00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:51,960 Speaker 1: ever see in your life. He's well over two inches, 745 00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:54,960 Speaker 1: he's got I don't know, double draft times. I mean, 746 00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:58,759 Speaker 1: he's a dream, dear, and he's headed your way, and 747 00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:01,080 Speaker 1: you're realizing, oh, why I'm going to get a shot 748 00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:05,680 Speaker 1: at this buck? What do you do in the following 749 00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:12,240 Speaker 1: seconds or minutes to collect yourself, calm yourself mentally, prepare 750 00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:15,520 Speaker 1: yourself to get this shot? What you know? What's what's 751 00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:18,520 Speaker 1: inside in between your ears? Tyler? Because I think one thing, 752 00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:21,920 Speaker 1: that one thing that stands out about you compared to 753 00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:24,640 Speaker 1: a whole lot of folks, I think is that you 754 00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:27,680 Speaker 1: have You're in a position every year to see a 755 00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:29,520 Speaker 1: whole lot of big deer and to shoot a lot 756 00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:32,040 Speaker 1: of deer every year. So you you've you've gone through 757 00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:35,000 Speaker 1: this way more times than I have. I'm sure what 758 00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:38,080 Speaker 1: is your secret sauce to being able to execute in 759 00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:44,360 Speaker 1: that moment? That's a great question. Um. You know what 760 00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:47,000 Speaker 1: what I've tried to do is that once I get 761 00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:49,640 Speaker 1: eyes on a deer like that, maybe a deer that 762 00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:53,560 Speaker 1: I don't don't don't know, um, even if it's a 763 00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:55,839 Speaker 1: deer I do know, I just try to go to 764 00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:59,080 Speaker 1: another place. This is gonna sound silly to some people, 765 00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:01,760 Speaker 1: but I found that the best way to calm myself 766 00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:04,200 Speaker 1: down is to not really look at that deer again, 767 00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:07,160 Speaker 1: not look at his rack again. Um. You know, obviously 768 00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:10,359 Speaker 1: you know, prep for the shot, um, and hopefully I've 769 00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:12,919 Speaker 1: done some of that work, you know, before the deer 770 00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:15,239 Speaker 1: is coming in there of knowing you know, where I'd 771 00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:17,400 Speaker 1: like to shoot this deer. I have all my spots 772 00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:20,439 Speaker 1: ranged in advance. But I try to just not think 773 00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:24,000 Speaker 1: about anything that's going on in the moment um, you know, 774 00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:27,520 Speaker 1: trying to just get my mind as far away from 775 00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:30,759 Speaker 1: that as possible, because I think if I think where 776 00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:32,880 Speaker 1: people can mess up, as you know, if that starts 777 00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:34,320 Speaker 1: going through my mind, like, man, this could be the 778 00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:36,839 Speaker 1: biggest deer in my life. You know, I don't want 779 00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:39,439 Speaker 1: to best this moment up. Um. You know. Maybe it's 780 00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:42,839 Speaker 1: like a baseball player, you know, going to the plate. 781 00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:45,440 Speaker 1: You know, you you you go up there and just 782 00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:49,320 Speaker 1: execute um and just you know, thinking about as little 783 00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:52,440 Speaker 1: as possible. Um. You know you don't want that added 784 00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:56,840 Speaker 1: pressure of trying to execute that shot. Um. You know 785 00:39:56,920 --> 00:40:00,560 Speaker 1: you've practiced, you know, you've you've you're ready to this moment. 786 00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:04,239 Speaker 1: So UM, you know. I try to I try to 787 00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:06,799 Speaker 1: let my mind go elsewhere. You know where elsewhere is? 788 00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:09,520 Speaker 1: I don't know. It can it can range from a 789 00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:11,719 Speaker 1: lot of different things. You know, work, I have to 790 00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:14,319 Speaker 1: do it in the house, or uh, you know, thinking 791 00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:16,400 Speaker 1: about an email I need to respond to or something. 792 00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:19,319 Speaker 1: I mean, just trying to do is as much as 793 00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:21,759 Speaker 1: I can not to let the moment get the better 794 00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:25,239 Speaker 1: of me. I like that. Now what about you know, 795 00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:30,600 Speaker 1: is there any like your shot prices itself and now 796 00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:33,439 Speaker 1: that bucks getting into range? I'm curious what does your 797 00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:35,480 Speaker 1: Do you have a a mantra? Do you have anything 798 00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:37,279 Speaker 1: you say in your head as you're drawing back or 799 00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:39,600 Speaker 1: as you aim, or anything to try to stay in 800 00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:41,880 Speaker 1: that to stay in that moment or do you prefer 801 00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:43,680 Speaker 1: to stay out of the moment completely and kind of 802 00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:47,400 Speaker 1: be an autopilot? Yeah? I think what I think what 803 00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:50,680 Speaker 1: I try to do there, and it is to be 804 00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:54,480 Speaker 1: really confident, not overconfident, but I kind of tell like 805 00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:58,200 Speaker 1: something I always tell myself is, man, you're gonna smoke 806 00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:01,839 Speaker 1: this dear, like you're going you're gonna make a great shot. Uh. 807 00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:04,080 Speaker 1: You know, when when you draw back and you know 808 00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:07,560 Speaker 1: you're on a deer of any size or caliber, you know, 809 00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:10,440 Speaker 1: you can get shaky, a little nervous. But I try to, 810 00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:12,920 Speaker 1: let you know, tell myself over and over like, man, 811 00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:17,359 Speaker 1: you're gonna put it behind his shoulder and drill this deer, um, 812 00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:20,120 Speaker 1: you know, just make it, make a great shot. And 813 00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:21,840 Speaker 1: I found that when I go in there with that 814 00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:24,960 Speaker 1: mentality instead of being nervous or you know, just want 815 00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:27,279 Speaker 1: to keep the buck fever as far away as possible 816 00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:31,320 Speaker 1: and keeping that that kind of don't give a crap 817 00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:35,680 Speaker 1: attitude of you know, letting, you know, letting the moment 818 00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:39,759 Speaker 1: overtake me. Um, and just you know, going in there 819 00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:42,239 Speaker 1: kind of with a force. Is is kind of why 820 00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:46,080 Speaker 1: I found to work for me at least and then 821 00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:48,319 Speaker 1: and then let the butt fever creep in after the 822 00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:51,080 Speaker 1: shot is executed, hopefully, Yeah, that's the right time to 823 00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:55,560 Speaker 1: feel it. Yeah. Now, now here's here's the doozy. Let's 824 00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:59,520 Speaker 1: let's imagine the situation happens. It's November, We'll say, but 825 00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:05,040 Speaker 1: you miss him? Yeah? What do you do after a 826 00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:08,560 Speaker 1: miss on a November hunt like that? Are you? Are 827 00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:10,520 Speaker 1: you the type who can just stick it out and 828 00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:12,120 Speaker 1: stay out there and just like the best way to 829 00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:13,920 Speaker 1: get this off your back is to shoot another one 830 00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:16,879 Speaker 1: today or do you you know, pull out, go back 831 00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:20,799 Speaker 1: to camp, shoot your bowl, build your confidence back up again. Um, 832 00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:23,360 Speaker 1: what are you physically doing and then what are you 833 00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:26,200 Speaker 1: mentally doing to to get your head read again after 834 00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:32,359 Speaker 1: something like that? Yeah, Um, that's a great question. Um. 835 00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:36,000 Speaker 1: You know, I think after a miss, you know, going 836 00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:41,239 Speaker 1: back and and figuring out what exactly happened. Um, But 837 00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:43,759 Speaker 1: what I like to do is is to go back 838 00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:46,000 Speaker 1: to camp, you know, and I'm I'm fine sending it 839 00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:48,880 Speaker 1: out you know for the rest of the hunt and 840 00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:51,160 Speaker 1: not letting that get me down too much because mr 841 00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:54,560 Speaker 1: has just happened. Bow Hunting is really hard, uh, you know, 842 00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:56,719 Speaker 1: so going back and trying to get you know, ten 843 00:42:56,760 --> 00:43:00,560 Speaker 1: to fifteen shots, making sure my equipments on um, and 844 00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:06,720 Speaker 1: just getting my confidence back that way, ums, is probably 845 00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:09,319 Speaker 1: the best thing you know for me to do. Um. 846 00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:13,319 Speaker 1: You know, you can't be repetition. Um. You know it's 847 00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:17,800 Speaker 1: like you know, falling off a bite, getting back on. Um. 848 00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:19,600 Speaker 1: You just gotta get back out there and do it. 849 00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:22,960 Speaker 1: You know, everybody, you know, baseball player, you strike out, 850 00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:25,080 Speaker 1: but you're next to back. You know, you've got to 851 00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:28,040 Speaker 1: go out there and make it count again. UM. So 852 00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:30,200 Speaker 1: I try not to let it get get me down 853 00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:32,520 Speaker 1: too much. I think when I was younger, I did 854 00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:36,680 Speaker 1: a little bit. Um. You know, it doesn't feel good 855 00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:39,040 Speaker 1: to have a swing and a miss. But you know, 856 00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:42,000 Speaker 1: if you do this thing long enough, reality is it 857 00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:45,399 Speaker 1: just happens. You just gotta keep keep positive and keep 858 00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:52,640 Speaker 1: moving on. We've all been there too many times. Yeah, 859 00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:56,960 Speaker 1: all right, So let's let's step back from the shooting 860 00:43:57,120 --> 00:44:00,680 Speaker 1: and get back to another hunt thing. And let's say 861 00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:04,960 Speaker 1: this is like a like a late October hunt, and 862 00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:07,319 Speaker 1: you're back in the southeast. Maybe this is a home 863 00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:10,640 Speaker 1: farm Georgia hunt. Maybe this is somewhere else you guys 864 00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:12,879 Speaker 1: are poking around down there in the southeast. But let's 865 00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:16,279 Speaker 1: call this kind of a mixed timber and egg kind 866 00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:20,839 Speaker 1: of diverse habitat. And a small cold front pushes through 867 00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:23,439 Speaker 1: the day before. So let's say I don't know Let's 868 00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:26,719 Speaker 1: say it's cold front coming through on October and you're 869 00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:30,400 Speaker 1: thinking about hunting the next day, and that coal front 870 00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:33,920 Speaker 1: pushes through and you get your first daylight trail camera 871 00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:38,040 Speaker 1: picture of a mature buck in this area. It's about 872 00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:40,760 Speaker 1: twenty minutes before dark on like a small food source, 873 00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:43,080 Speaker 1: like a little hidy hole food plotter, corner of a field, 874 00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:46,279 Speaker 1: something like that. Okay, because the first time he's been 875 00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:50,760 Speaker 1: daylight this season. Now, in most situations, at least for myself, 876 00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:52,759 Speaker 1: I'd be very excited about that, and I'd be thinking 877 00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:55,600 Speaker 1: about getting right back into that next night. But here's 878 00:44:55,640 --> 00:45:00,160 Speaker 1: the thing. The wind is going to shift degree is 879 00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:02,200 Speaker 1: the next day. Let's say it was a west wind 880 00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:05,120 Speaker 1: when that cold front hit, and he showed up tomorrow, 881 00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:08,280 Speaker 1: everything's the same, but the wind is a complete shift 882 00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:11,759 Speaker 1: and now it's an east wind. Do you hunt that 883 00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:14,719 Speaker 1: spot the next evening, giving that he was daylight or 884 00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:18,360 Speaker 1: does that shift in wind direction? Were you enough to 885 00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:21,680 Speaker 1: to not do that and instead of do something different? Yeah, 886 00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:24,200 Speaker 1: if if the wind was bad, I'd likely go in 887 00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:27,759 Speaker 1: there and do something different, especially if you know where 888 00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:29,719 Speaker 1: he was on trail camera is going to be, you know, 889 00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:32,200 Speaker 1: dead down wind. Then you know, I'd like to try 890 00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:35,760 Speaker 1: and do something else I think, Um, I still wouldn't 891 00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:38,120 Speaker 1: be afraid to go in there. Hopefully I have another 892 00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:41,000 Speaker 1: stand uh set up, and if I don't, you know, 893 00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:44,200 Speaker 1: wouldn't be afraid to go in there sometime, um, you know, 894 00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:45,759 Speaker 1: maybe during the middle of the day and get up 895 00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:49,800 Speaker 1: another another stand. Um. You know. For for me, anywhere 896 00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:54,080 Speaker 1: between that October till about November six or seven, I'm 897 00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:56,040 Speaker 1: trying to be in a tree as much as possible, 898 00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:58,080 Speaker 1: and like you said, he's daylight for the first time. 899 00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:01,120 Speaker 1: Um so, and also not afraid to go in there 900 00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:03,480 Speaker 1: and do a hanging hunt you know for the right wind. 901 00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:10,040 Speaker 1: Um that's on that's that's uh, that's close to that dear. Um. 902 00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:13,000 Speaker 1: You know this this, if there's a this probably wouldn't 903 00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:15,120 Speaker 1: work for that scenario. But if you know, if you 904 00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:17,880 Speaker 1: had a a ground blind where you could go in 905 00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:20,840 Speaker 1: there and uh you know enclose your sin in for 906 00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:24,920 Speaker 1: bo r gun Uh you know something that's hard show. Um. 907 00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:27,319 Speaker 1: You know we use that a lot here, um, just 908 00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:29,959 Speaker 1: because you know, the wind can be screwy a lot. 909 00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:32,000 Speaker 1: So you know, if there is a situation like that 910 00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:36,799 Speaker 1: where I can use a ground blind, UM to my advantage. 911 00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:41,600 Speaker 1: I'll do that as well. Okay, So that brings to 912 00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:43,960 Speaker 1: mind another scenario that I was going to run by you, 913 00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:47,960 Speaker 1: and it's something I've encountered. Uh specifically, there's one spot 914 00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:50,520 Speaker 1: that really kills me that's like this, and I've seen 915 00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:54,239 Speaker 1: similar in other places in the Midwest. Um, it's a 916 00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:56,480 Speaker 1: little bit similar to what we just discussed. But here's 917 00:46:56,520 --> 00:46:59,600 Speaker 1: here's a situation. We're in November. Now, you're somewhere in 918 00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:05,520 Speaker 1: the Middle West, and you discover just an absolute sweet spot. 919 00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:08,000 Speaker 1: It's deep in the cover, but you can tell like 920 00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:10,440 Speaker 1: this is the spot. Within the spot. Within the spot, 921 00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:14,600 Speaker 1: there's a little creek crossing with bedding all around, and 922 00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:19,440 Speaker 1: from afar you have seen numerous shoar bucks all cross 923 00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:21,319 Speaker 1: right here. They all come through this bedding area, they 924 00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:26,120 Speaker 1: all cross right here. It's it's the spot. The problem 925 00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:29,239 Speaker 1: is that it's a very high deer density area and 926 00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:32,239 Speaker 1: there's just deer all around it. And as you sit 927 00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:34,919 Speaker 1: there on the outside looking in, you're thinking, man, how 928 00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:38,000 Speaker 1: could I ever hunt right inside there where all these 929 00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:41,840 Speaker 1: deer crossed by, without these forty doughs that are always 930 00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:43,440 Speaker 1: coming in and out of here, winding me and blowing 931 00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:46,920 Speaker 1: the whole thing. What do you do in that situation? 932 00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:49,600 Speaker 1: Do you hunt down right in that spot, knowing there's 933 00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:51,640 Speaker 1: the risk and just hoping that you can pull it off. 934 00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:53,640 Speaker 1: I've heard you say spray and pray in the past, 935 00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:55,920 Speaker 1: So would you spray and pray in a situation like 936 00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:58,840 Speaker 1: that or would you say it's just too risky and 937 00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:02,840 Speaker 1: you gotta hunt off of that somewhere else? No? I would, 938 00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:05,759 Speaker 1: I would, You know, I do spray and pray some, 939 00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:08,960 Speaker 1: but you know, if if the density is that high, 940 00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:12,160 Speaker 1: you know, with deer in a particular area, I don't know, 941 00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:15,279 Speaker 1: if there's you know, the amount of the amount of 942 00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:17,960 Speaker 1: scent covering the world, um, that could cover up your 943 00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:20,440 Speaker 1: scent good enough. So you know, no, I would. I 944 00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:23,320 Speaker 1: would try to hunt off of there a little bit, um, 945 00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:25,080 Speaker 1: you know, if they are going to a spot in 946 00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:27,879 Speaker 1: the field where I can get a stand, uh hung 947 00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:30,520 Speaker 1: close to that area and just give myself a little 948 00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:34,000 Speaker 1: bit of breathing room, especially to start off, you know, 949 00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:35,920 Speaker 1: not saying I wouldn't go in there and try that 950 00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:39,239 Speaker 1: situation maybe later on or um, if I didn't have 951 00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:41,320 Speaker 1: a whole lot of time in the hunt, But I 952 00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:43,680 Speaker 1: would say, right off the bat to get right on 953 00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:47,479 Speaker 1: top of them and wrist blowing the whole thing would 954 00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:50,320 Speaker 1: probably play it safe, go back to the play and 955 00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:54,359 Speaker 1: safe mentality that I should have listened to a year ago. 956 00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:57,880 Speaker 1: So that's that's probably where what I do in that 957 00:48:57,920 --> 00:49:02,520 Speaker 1: situation was to start off. Yeah, So in my example 958 00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:05,960 Speaker 1: where I had something like this, I had I had 959 00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:08,080 Speaker 1: an area like this I knew about. I finally had 960 00:49:08,080 --> 00:49:10,480 Speaker 1: access that I could hunt deep in there finally, and 961 00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:12,000 Speaker 1: and I kind of had the same thought you did. 962 00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:14,000 Speaker 1: I was I was worried to go in there too soon, 963 00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:16,960 Speaker 1: So I kept trying to play the edges and I 964 00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:19,040 Speaker 1: hope I can make it happen, and and finally got 965 00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:20,799 Speaker 1: got towards the end of the time I had left, 966 00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:23,319 Speaker 1: and I finally thought, man, I just had to throw 967 00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:25,600 Speaker 1: caution to the wind. I'm gonna get one chance. I'm 968 00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:27,600 Speaker 1: just gonna try it. I'm gonna swing for the fences. 969 00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:30,920 Speaker 1: And so I snuck in here. I walked the creek 970 00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:33,000 Speaker 1: all the way into this bedding are deep in there, 971 00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:36,439 Speaker 1: well before daylight. It was like November five or six 972 00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:39,640 Speaker 1: or something like that. And I hang a new set 973 00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:41,440 Speaker 1: in this tree right in the edge of the creek 974 00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:43,960 Speaker 1: and I picked a day where the wind actually blew 975 00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:46,160 Speaker 1: down along with the creek, so I thought that was 976 00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:48,520 Speaker 1: my best chance if there was anything that might let 977 00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:50,120 Speaker 1: me get away with something to be if my wind 978 00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:55,279 Speaker 1: was in the water, and I took my shot right 979 00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:59,080 Speaker 1: and sure enough my shooter buck up been after comes through. 980 00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:03,680 Speaker 1: But he comes through like ten minutes before daylight, and 981 00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:07,399 Speaker 1: I have to watch him go past me in the dark. 982 00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:09,840 Speaker 1: But I can see him and then go down windo 983 00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:12,200 Speaker 1: me and win me and spook out of that. So 984 00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:13,880 Speaker 1: I could have shot him if it was like fifteen 985 00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:16,600 Speaker 1: minutes later. He did exactly what I needed to, but 986 00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:22,600 Speaker 1: he just came too early. So yeah, yeah, that unfortunately 987 00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:26,000 Speaker 1: can happen. I think what I found, and then you know, 988 00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:28,720 Speaker 1: in the Midwest we use a lot of that style 989 00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:31,040 Speaker 1: of home is. You know, playing it saved the first 990 00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:33,720 Speaker 1: few days, you can learn a lot those first couple 991 00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:36,440 Speaker 1: of sets, those first two or three cents and a stand, 992 00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:38,719 Speaker 1: and you know, you think you know where the deer 993 00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:41,359 Speaker 1: funneling out of a lot, but then you know, if 994 00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:43,560 Speaker 1: you were to get down somewhere and get a little 995 00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:46,279 Speaker 1: bit further off that crossing where those deer coming to, 996 00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:49,439 Speaker 1: you know, you get away better lay of the land 997 00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:51,880 Speaker 1: and go, oh, I may go try to that tree 998 00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:54,560 Speaker 1: tomorrow or go, you know, maybe try that set up, 999 00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:56,680 Speaker 1: you know, mid day and go have a stand hung 1000 00:50:56,719 --> 00:51:00,399 Speaker 1: there for when the wind switches back. Right. Um, So 1001 00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:02,040 Speaker 1: you know that it can it can teach you a 1002 00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:05,239 Speaker 1: lot playing it safe. But you know, there does come 1003 00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:07,960 Speaker 1: a point where it's like you're getting a little bit late. 1004 00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:10,440 Speaker 1: You've been there for five or six days. It's like 1005 00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:13,279 Speaker 1: how long can you continue to do this? Um, and 1006 00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:16,799 Speaker 1: you've got to push in a little bit. But um, 1007 00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:18,840 Speaker 1: you know I would probably you know, like I said, 1008 00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:20,920 Speaker 1: play it's safe to start off with, and then you know, 1009 00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:24,240 Speaker 1: gradually creep in if you can't. Yeah, high risk, high reward. 1010 00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:29,560 Speaker 1: That's right, here's kind of a natural next step scenario. 1011 00:51:29,719 --> 00:51:32,040 Speaker 1: Then if we if we say, we're kind of kind 1012 00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:34,520 Speaker 1: of play it a little bit safe in the beginning, right, 1013 00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:38,080 Speaker 1: So let's imagine it's it's that hunt and we're a 1014 00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:40,799 Speaker 1: little bit off of the best stuff. We're still in 1015 00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:43,720 Speaker 1: some pretty good areas though, and you see a shooter 1016 00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:48,040 Speaker 1: buck cruising about a hundred yards out, and like I said, 1017 00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:50,120 Speaker 1: it's like early ish November give or take somewhere in 1018 00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:54,000 Speaker 1: that window. He's a hundred yards away, but if he 1019 00:51:54,040 --> 00:51:57,799 Speaker 1: continues on his current path about another hundred yards, he 1020 00:51:57,840 --> 00:52:01,560 Speaker 1: will eventually hit your win. So my question is to you, 1021 00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:05,480 Speaker 1: would you aggressively call to him to try to get 1022 00:52:05,560 --> 00:52:08,360 Speaker 1: him to come your way? Would you be worried that 1023 00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:11,839 Speaker 1: he's kind of heading into your general wind direction? Does 1024 00:52:12,239 --> 00:52:14,080 Speaker 1: any of that pass through your mind? You not call 1025 00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:18,160 Speaker 1: at all? What's your what's your move in that situation? Mm? Hmm, 1026 00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:25,520 Speaker 1: trying to think think through this. Um, that's a tough call, 1027 00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:29,600 Speaker 1: you know. If if you I may try to rattle 1028 00:52:29,719 --> 00:52:32,040 Speaker 1: and grund a little bit, you know, just to see 1029 00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:36,560 Speaker 1: if that doesn't switch him, you know, trying to just 1030 00:52:36,640 --> 00:52:41,480 Speaker 1: to turn his direction. Um. That that probably would be 1031 00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:44,719 Speaker 1: what I would likely to do is to call, maybe 1032 00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:46,960 Speaker 1: not call it too aggressively, or might try to snort 1033 00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:52,320 Speaker 1: weise um, to see if that doesn't turn his head. Um. 1034 00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:55,759 Speaker 1: But that's that's tough. I don't know, I mean, I 1035 00:52:55,760 --> 00:52:58,759 Speaker 1: would I would do. I would do at least the 1036 00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:02,760 Speaker 1: minimum of what I could control to try to stop 1037 00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:05,600 Speaker 1: him and just see if that doesn't doesn't change his 1038 00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:07,680 Speaker 1: direction at all, so he doesn't hit my wind. I 1039 00:53:07,719 --> 00:53:09,160 Speaker 1: would try that. I don't know if I would call 1040 00:53:09,239 --> 00:53:11,640 Speaker 1: to aggressively just because I don't want him to be 1041 00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:15,719 Speaker 1: spooked from that on top of the wind um, you know, 1042 00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:22,200 Speaker 1: thinking it's you know pressure. UM, So I would try 1043 00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:24,879 Speaker 1: the minimum of at least trying to lightly call. Yeah. 1044 00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:29,759 Speaker 1: So when I was like sixteen seventeen years old, and 1045 00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:31,759 Speaker 1: if I saw a buck out of range, I would 1046 00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:34,160 Speaker 1: you know, throw a grunt at him, and then he'd 1047 00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:36,240 Speaker 1: stopped and then to keep walking. Then I grunt twice 1048 00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:38,280 Speaker 1: at him. He'd stopped and looking then to keep walking, 1049 00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:40,640 Speaker 1: and then I'd like grunt louder at him, and then 1050 00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:42,680 Speaker 1: he keep walking and then I'd like snort wheez at 1051 00:53:42,719 --> 00:53:46,160 Speaker 1: him and then he'd run away. Right, all right, That's 1052 00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:47,800 Speaker 1: what I'm worried about too. You know, that time of 1053 00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:50,200 Speaker 1: year can be, like you said, high risk, high reward. 1054 00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:53,120 Speaker 1: But you know, I just trying not to educate him 1055 00:53:53,160 --> 00:53:56,760 Speaker 1: any more than what I have to. UM. So I'd 1056 00:53:56,840 --> 00:53:59,680 Speaker 1: like to think I wouldn't be overly aggressive with that, 1057 00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:04,799 Speaker 1: um because there's there's always tomorrow. Yeah, So what's your 1058 00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:08,239 Speaker 1: I guess what I'm wondering is what's the like, what's 1059 00:54:08,239 --> 00:54:10,680 Speaker 1: the cut off mark? Like when do you say all right, 1060 00:54:10,719 --> 00:54:12,200 Speaker 1: he's just not into it, Like, will you try a 1061 00:54:12,200 --> 00:54:13,879 Speaker 1: couple of grunts or a couple of things, and then 1062 00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:15,719 Speaker 1: if he still ignores that, then you say, all right, 1063 00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:17,840 Speaker 1: well it's just not happening. Or how do you know 1064 00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:21,040 Speaker 1: when enough is enough? Yeah, I think just reading the 1065 00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:24,520 Speaker 1: deer's body language, you know, as best I can. Um, 1066 00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:27,440 Speaker 1: you know, if he maybe stops, you know, to a 1067 00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:32,280 Speaker 1: couple of grunts, may try to you know, lightly rattle 1068 00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:36,480 Speaker 1: mike snort, wee's one time. Um. And if you know, 1069 00:54:36,520 --> 00:54:39,160 Speaker 1: if the deer doesn't doesn't react, or you know, maybe 1070 00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:42,120 Speaker 1: stops just for a brief second, keeps on going, then 1071 00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:44,640 Speaker 1: you know, I'll call it off. I won't try to 1072 00:54:44,680 --> 00:54:47,400 Speaker 1: get any louder, won't continue to do it. And if 1073 00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:49,200 Speaker 1: he hits my win, he hits my win. You know, 1074 00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:52,640 Speaker 1: that's that's just that's uh, that's part of it. But 1075 00:54:52,840 --> 00:54:55,280 Speaker 1: I definitely don't want to try to spoke him anymore 1076 00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:57,400 Speaker 1: than what I have to in hopes of, you know, 1077 00:54:57,440 --> 00:54:59,240 Speaker 1: trying to maybe close him out later in the season 1078 00:54:59,320 --> 00:55:03,360 Speaker 1: or the next day or if I half a few days. Um, 1079 00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:07,400 Speaker 1: you know, our hope that maybe he well somehow not 1080 00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:10,440 Speaker 1: hit my wind is as bad as I think you 1081 00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:12,560 Speaker 1: will you know, maybe he's got his back to me 1082 00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:17,000 Speaker 1: where he uh where he maybe want is not paying attention. 1083 00:55:30,719 --> 00:55:33,960 Speaker 1: So here's another kind of spotting a buck off in 1084 00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:37,200 Speaker 1: the distance situation. Let's say the same kind of deal 1085 00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:40,760 Speaker 1: you spotted shoot her buck, but instead of him cruising, 1086 00:55:41,680 --> 00:55:45,120 Speaker 1: let's say he's locked on a doll and it's the afternoon, 1087 00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:49,360 Speaker 1: and you can see that this dough is very slowly 1088 00:55:49,480 --> 00:55:52,080 Speaker 1: kind of heading off in the direction of a food source. 1089 00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:54,520 Speaker 1: They're in the betting area still, but she's kind of 1090 00:55:54,520 --> 00:55:56,840 Speaker 1: doing that thing where she moves off five ten yards. 1091 00:55:56,840 --> 00:55:59,640 Speaker 1: He's standing behind her, then he walks up, stands right 1092 00:55:59,640 --> 00:56:01,480 Speaker 1: next to her, and then she moves off and they 1093 00:56:01,600 --> 00:56:05,080 Speaker 1: they're just slowly doing this. You're sitting, you know, a 1094 00:56:05,160 --> 00:56:08,239 Speaker 1: hundred yards a hundred fifty yards away, kind of back 1095 00:56:08,280 --> 00:56:11,000 Speaker 1: behind him, watching them slowly get further and further away 1096 00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:14,319 Speaker 1: from you. But they're moving slow. So in that situation, 1097 00:56:14,840 --> 00:56:17,399 Speaker 1: would you would you ever try to call that buck 1098 00:56:17,400 --> 00:56:19,319 Speaker 1: and try to get him over to you. Would you 1099 00:56:19,600 --> 00:56:21,960 Speaker 1: slip out of your stand and try to move and 1100 00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:24,160 Speaker 1: like get ahead of them or anything, or would you 1101 00:56:24,200 --> 00:56:26,480 Speaker 1: just say I'm just gonna stick it out where I 1102 00:56:26,520 --> 00:56:29,520 Speaker 1: am and and hope that something crazy happens and they 1103 00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:32,040 Speaker 1: swing by, or a different buck comes through or something else. 1104 00:56:33,840 --> 00:56:36,280 Speaker 1: I might try to throw in a couple of like grunts. 1105 00:56:36,320 --> 00:56:40,160 Speaker 1: I might even try to snort ways, um, especially if 1106 00:56:40,160 --> 00:56:43,400 Speaker 1: it's here on our place in Georgia, But that would 1107 00:56:43,400 --> 00:56:46,160 Speaker 1: probably be the bare minimum. Um you know, I would 1108 00:56:46,200 --> 00:56:49,759 Speaker 1: try to just anticipate maybe for that next day or 1109 00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:54,040 Speaker 1: next few days. I wouldn't try to get down and 1110 00:56:55,360 --> 00:56:58,080 Speaker 1: and try to get ahead of them. Um. You know, 1111 00:56:58,160 --> 00:57:01,600 Speaker 1: I may try to do that, may be somewhere else, 1112 00:57:02,080 --> 00:57:06,480 Speaker 1: but um you know, maybe like in Montana or Nebraska. 1113 00:57:06,760 --> 00:57:08,719 Speaker 1: You know, you may try to do that, but I'd 1114 00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:10,719 Speaker 1: still try to play it as safe as I could, 1115 00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:13,200 Speaker 1: because I think you know where I've I've messed up 1116 00:57:13,239 --> 00:57:15,279 Speaker 1: before in Montana is getting down out of the tree 1117 00:57:15,360 --> 00:57:18,440 Speaker 1: to try to get closer. I've ended up really you know, 1118 00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:21,720 Speaker 1: blowing some fields out and it and it really cost 1119 00:57:21,720 --> 00:57:24,520 Speaker 1: to me. And it may take these deer sometimes a 1120 00:57:24,560 --> 00:57:26,400 Speaker 1: week or two to really move back in and get 1121 00:57:26,400 --> 00:57:30,440 Speaker 1: comfortable again. Um So I've I've learned that the hard way, 1122 00:57:30,760 --> 00:57:34,520 Speaker 1: you know, in some of these places. Um So, I'd say, 1123 00:57:34,560 --> 00:57:36,640 Speaker 1: you know, at least the first time, like if it 1124 00:57:36,680 --> 00:57:39,920 Speaker 1: doesn't work, maybe after a couple of days and you 1125 00:57:39,960 --> 00:57:42,040 Speaker 1: can't get any closer than maybe you do try the 1126 00:57:42,080 --> 00:57:46,400 Speaker 1: ground approach. But um, i'd say to start off with 1127 00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:51,360 Speaker 1: you know, better safe. Yeah, what was your You mentioned that, 1128 00:57:51,720 --> 00:57:53,600 Speaker 1: you know, waiting till the next day and then adjusting. 1129 00:57:53,680 --> 00:57:56,240 Speaker 1: What would your adjustment be for that next day? Would 1130 00:57:56,240 --> 00:57:57,840 Speaker 1: you just try to move in right to where you 1131 00:57:57,880 --> 00:57:59,840 Speaker 1: saw them again and hope they come back or what 1132 00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:04,720 Speaker 1: it's your plan? Yeah? I think you know, maybe try 1133 00:58:04,720 --> 00:58:08,040 Speaker 1: and maybe hoping that that dough may take him, um, 1134 00:58:08,080 --> 00:58:11,680 Speaker 1: you know, maybe closer to us that next day. Um. 1135 00:58:11,720 --> 00:58:13,960 Speaker 1: You know, like that that time of year, a lot 1136 00:58:13,960 --> 00:58:15,960 Speaker 1: of these deer get out there in that alf alfa 1137 00:58:16,200 --> 00:58:18,320 Speaker 1: and you're very limited on what you can do as 1138 00:58:18,320 --> 00:58:21,040 Speaker 1: far as the movement of where you can you know, 1139 00:58:21,160 --> 00:58:22,960 Speaker 1: move some of these tree stands. You know, you may 1140 00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:25,800 Speaker 1: be able to move sometimes a ground blind closer to 1141 00:58:25,840 --> 00:58:29,120 Speaker 1: where these deer you know where maybe the day before um, 1142 00:58:29,160 --> 00:58:30,600 Speaker 1: and that may be able to help you a little 1143 00:58:30,600 --> 00:58:34,120 Speaker 1: bit for for cent and trying to keep that keep 1144 00:58:34,200 --> 00:58:38,080 Speaker 1: that keep that you know, sent away from those deer 1145 00:58:38,120 --> 00:58:42,040 Speaker 1: as much as possible. So um, you know, so that 1146 00:58:42,040 --> 00:58:44,680 Speaker 1: that would be what I would probably try to do 1147 00:58:44,880 --> 00:58:48,400 Speaker 1: is uh, you know, just just try to wait it 1148 00:58:48,400 --> 00:58:50,640 Speaker 1: out and hopefully he ends up making a mistake a 1149 00:58:50,720 --> 00:58:54,560 Speaker 1: day or two later. Now would this? Uh? I want 1150 00:58:54,560 --> 00:58:56,360 Speaker 1: to see if if your answer would change it off? 1151 00:58:56,400 --> 00:58:59,120 Speaker 1: We were to shift a couple of things. Let's let's 1152 00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:02,240 Speaker 1: change that sitting from an afternoon sighting to instead being 1153 00:59:02,240 --> 00:59:06,040 Speaker 1: a morning sighting. And now you see the buck locked 1154 00:59:06,040 --> 00:59:09,480 Speaker 1: on a dough. But now they're bedded down, they're betted together. 1155 00:59:09,840 --> 00:59:13,040 Speaker 1: It's the morning. They're in a grassy, grassy, brushy kind 1156 00:59:13,040 --> 00:59:16,040 Speaker 1: of thicket. What what are you doing that scenario? Does that? 1157 00:59:16,200 --> 00:59:17,960 Speaker 1: Would that change your mind in any kind of way? 1158 00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:24,560 Speaker 1: Are you still approaching the same way? Um? So that 1159 00:59:24,720 --> 00:59:27,120 Speaker 1: that he's betted down with the dough, he's locked down 1160 00:59:27,120 --> 00:59:29,240 Speaker 1: with the doughs. What you're saying? Yep, it's the morning. 1161 00:59:29,440 --> 00:59:31,920 Speaker 1: They're betted down. It's like ten am. They're betted down together. 1162 00:59:31,960 --> 00:59:34,000 Speaker 1: They're a hundred yards away from you. You see them, 1163 00:59:34,280 --> 00:59:39,600 Speaker 1: They're not going anywhere. What do you do? Man? I 1164 00:59:39,680 --> 00:59:41,600 Speaker 1: just I don't think if they're bedded down and I'm 1165 00:59:41,640 --> 00:59:44,640 Speaker 1: in a tree, you know, I don't think there's anything 1166 00:59:44,800 --> 00:59:48,960 Speaker 1: I could do even to to call to him. Um, 1167 00:59:49,000 --> 00:59:51,680 Speaker 1: I think I'd be very limited on what I could 1168 00:59:51,720 --> 00:59:53,920 Speaker 1: do in that scenario. I think you still, you know, 1169 00:59:54,000 --> 00:59:56,160 Speaker 1: you'd have to sit it out and wait, I just 1170 00:59:56,200 --> 00:59:58,840 Speaker 1: find it at least in my experience. You know, you 1171 00:59:58,920 --> 01:00:01,560 Speaker 1: and others may be different. But you know, getting down 1172 01:00:01,560 --> 01:00:04,080 Speaker 1: on a deer like that, you know, if a white 1173 01:00:04,080 --> 01:00:06,120 Speaker 1: tail does stand up, they're not going to give you 1174 01:00:06,120 --> 01:00:08,439 Speaker 1: a whole lot of time to react, you know, get 1175 01:00:08,440 --> 01:00:11,080 Speaker 1: your bow drawn. Um, and then I'm just worried about 1176 01:00:11,120 --> 01:00:14,360 Speaker 1: messing it up for the remainder of the hunt. Yeah, 1177 01:00:14,400 --> 01:00:16,600 Speaker 1: and because you know, in my situation, you've got a 1178 01:00:16,600 --> 01:00:19,120 Speaker 1: camera guy with you most of the time too. Um. 1179 01:00:19,160 --> 01:00:20,880 Speaker 1: You know, when you have two people trying to stalk 1180 01:00:20,920 --> 01:00:26,120 Speaker 1: and get closer, it it's even that much more difficult. So, um, 1181 01:00:26,160 --> 01:00:29,040 Speaker 1: you know, there there may be some some situation where 1182 01:00:29,080 --> 01:00:32,080 Speaker 1: you can try and close the distance and maybe try 1183 01:00:32,120 --> 01:00:36,920 Speaker 1: to get in another tree. But um, yeah, that's that's tough. Yeah, 1184 01:00:37,080 --> 01:00:40,080 Speaker 1: it's a it's a doozy, that's for sure. Let's let's 1185 01:00:40,280 --> 01:00:45,760 Speaker 1: pivot to a slightly different situation here. Now, Let's let's 1186 01:00:45,760 --> 01:00:48,840 Speaker 1: again say that you're Sharon Hunt and camp with some friends. 1187 01:00:49,720 --> 01:00:52,840 Speaker 1: It's the rut you're somewhere in the Midwest, you know, 1188 01:00:53,120 --> 01:00:55,800 Speaker 1: I don't know, We'll say maybe it's Illinois or Indiana, 1189 01:00:55,960 --> 01:00:59,040 Speaker 1: something like that. And you're all out there for a 1190 01:00:59,080 --> 01:01:03,200 Speaker 1: week together and you just cannot buy a shooter buck 1191 01:01:03,240 --> 01:01:06,520 Speaker 1: sighting like you're hunting great looking stuff, but nothing is 1192 01:01:06,560 --> 01:01:09,760 Speaker 1: panning out for you. But one of your buddies has 1193 01:01:09,840 --> 01:01:12,000 Speaker 1: kind of had a little zone that he's been focusing on, 1194 01:01:12,080 --> 01:01:14,280 Speaker 1: and it's been crazy over there. He's he's been in 1195 01:01:14,400 --> 01:01:17,320 Speaker 1: big deer every single day, different bucks coming through. And 1196 01:01:17,320 --> 01:01:20,320 Speaker 1: on day five of your seven day hunt, he kills one, 1197 01:01:20,880 --> 01:01:23,800 Speaker 1: he tags out, he's out of there. You've got one 1198 01:01:23,920 --> 01:01:27,800 Speaker 1: or two days left. Would you consider going into his 1199 01:01:27,880 --> 01:01:31,400 Speaker 1: spot that was on fire, but where he also just 1200 01:01:31,480 --> 01:01:33,560 Speaker 1: killed a deer and tracted deer and did all that stuff, 1201 01:01:33,680 --> 01:01:37,120 Speaker 1: or would you stick to your own plan and zone 1202 01:01:37,160 --> 01:01:41,040 Speaker 1: you've been focusing on up to this point. Mm hmm. 1203 01:01:42,400 --> 01:01:46,240 Speaker 1: That's a good question. Um, you know, this may not 1204 01:01:46,320 --> 01:01:48,360 Speaker 1: be the right answer, maybe there is no right answer. 1205 01:01:48,400 --> 01:01:50,640 Speaker 1: But I've always been the kind of guy. If I 1206 01:01:50,680 --> 01:01:54,720 Speaker 1: have time, you know, invested into a certain spot, you know, 1207 01:01:54,800 --> 01:01:57,720 Speaker 1: maybe you know, won't be as willingness to pick up 1208 01:01:57,760 --> 01:02:00,960 Speaker 1: and move. You know, I get so familiar and comfortable 1209 01:02:00,960 --> 01:02:04,200 Speaker 1: with my surroundings, even if you know, maybe a buck 1210 01:02:04,240 --> 01:02:07,320 Speaker 1: hasn't shown up, you know, quite yet. I always will 1211 01:02:07,360 --> 01:02:10,080 Speaker 1: sit it out until the very very you know, last minute, 1212 01:02:10,120 --> 01:02:14,360 Speaker 1: you know, even if we're unsuccessful. Um, you know, I like, 1213 01:02:15,360 --> 01:02:18,960 Speaker 1: you know, just going in somewhere where I'm I'm more familiar, uh, 1214 01:02:19,040 --> 01:02:22,240 Speaker 1: you know than picking up and move into a different location. Uh. 1215 01:02:22,280 --> 01:02:25,720 Speaker 1: You know, but sometimes you have to and and and 1216 01:02:25,800 --> 01:02:28,360 Speaker 1: you know, in that scenario, you know, maybe I might 1217 01:02:28,360 --> 01:02:32,200 Speaker 1: try to move in there, um and and you know, 1218 01:02:32,240 --> 01:02:35,320 Speaker 1: try my luck somewhere else. But I've always found it 1219 01:02:35,360 --> 01:02:38,120 Speaker 1: for me, I just I try to really stick it 1220 01:02:38,120 --> 01:02:40,360 Speaker 1: out with the game plan that I've set out for myself. 1221 01:02:41,160 --> 01:02:43,040 Speaker 1: Um and maybe that and it doesn't always work out, 1222 01:02:43,440 --> 01:02:46,680 Speaker 1: you know, that's just part of the unfortunately part of 1223 01:02:47,160 --> 01:02:49,440 Speaker 1: the risk you take is you may be unsuccessful. But 1224 01:02:50,120 --> 01:02:52,080 Speaker 1: I've always found that maybe the you know, the longer 1225 01:02:52,120 --> 01:02:55,080 Speaker 1: I stick it out and try to exploit all options 1226 01:02:55,280 --> 01:02:57,960 Speaker 1: on the current location I'm in, it usually ends up 1227 01:02:57,960 --> 01:03:01,880 Speaker 1: paying off. Yeah. I addle with this every year during 1228 01:03:01,920 --> 01:03:04,680 Speaker 1: the rut. Like just last year was perfect example of this. 1229 01:03:04,720 --> 01:03:08,400 Speaker 1: I was I found just a dynamite rut spot. It 1230 01:03:08,440 --> 01:03:10,400 Speaker 1: was it was like everything all stacked up. It was 1231 01:03:10,520 --> 01:03:13,280 Speaker 1: downwind of a great dough betting area. It was like 1232 01:03:13,320 --> 01:03:16,120 Speaker 1: a hub of two different pinch points that came together, 1233 01:03:16,360 --> 01:03:18,760 Speaker 1: and there was a pond there, and I had food 1234 01:03:19,200 --> 01:03:21,280 Speaker 1: up on the rises above me. It was just it 1235 01:03:21,400 --> 01:03:26,640 Speaker 1: just screamed amazing. And and then it just wasn't. There 1236 01:03:26,680 --> 01:03:29,720 Speaker 1: was younger bucks and deer's kind of deer slowly rolling 1237 01:03:29,720 --> 01:03:31,200 Speaker 1: through here and there, but it was not what I 1238 01:03:31,240 --> 01:03:33,800 Speaker 1: was thinking it would be. The big ones never showed up, 1239 01:03:33,840 --> 01:03:36,200 Speaker 1: and I kept battling. I'd sit there like midday on 1240 01:03:36,240 --> 01:03:40,120 Speaker 1: these all day sits and say, okay, you you could 1241 01:03:40,160 --> 01:03:43,240 Speaker 1: trust the place and just believe that eventually the good 1242 01:03:43,240 --> 01:03:45,680 Speaker 1: one has to come through because it's such a good spot. 1243 01:03:46,640 --> 01:03:49,120 Speaker 1: Or you could go chase, you know, you could go 1244 01:03:49,200 --> 01:03:51,080 Speaker 1: try to find where the hot action is right now. 1245 01:03:51,280 --> 01:03:53,520 Speaker 1: And and I went back and forth a thousand times, 1246 01:03:53,520 --> 01:03:55,880 Speaker 1: and I I must have lost three or four years 1247 01:03:55,920 --> 01:03:58,200 Speaker 1: off my long term life expectancy because how much I 1248 01:03:58,240 --> 01:04:01,680 Speaker 1: stressed about it. And I never figured it out. I 1249 01:04:01,760 --> 01:04:03,400 Speaker 1: kind of did a little did a little bit of both, 1250 01:04:03,440 --> 01:04:07,040 Speaker 1: and it never worked. It's a it's a tough one, 1251 01:04:08,200 --> 01:04:11,400 Speaker 1: yeah it is, you know. And and and and and like, 1252 01:04:11,920 --> 01:04:14,400 Speaker 1: I'm sure there are situations where maybe the hunting is 1253 01:04:14,440 --> 01:04:16,480 Speaker 1: really not as good for me, and like I'd want 1254 01:04:16,480 --> 01:04:18,520 Speaker 1: to go up there and try something different, you know, 1255 01:04:18,520 --> 01:04:21,880 Speaker 1: where my buddy was just successful, maybe tagged on on 1256 01:04:21,920 --> 01:04:25,480 Speaker 1: a really nice deer. I just I don't really know why. 1257 01:04:25,560 --> 01:04:27,760 Speaker 1: It's just you know, you have to kind of go 1258 01:04:27,840 --> 01:04:32,760 Speaker 1: in somewhere and learn that that place all over again. Um. 1259 01:04:32,800 --> 01:04:34,680 Speaker 1: And if I feel like there are some deer in 1260 01:04:34,720 --> 01:04:37,720 Speaker 1: the area where I'm currently at, you know, I like 1261 01:04:38,040 --> 01:04:41,840 Speaker 1: kind of sticking it out and seeing it through the end. Um. 1262 01:04:41,880 --> 01:04:44,400 Speaker 1: You know, but it doesn't always pay off. You know, 1263 01:04:44,400 --> 01:04:46,960 Speaker 1: there are many times, probably more often than it doesn't. 1264 01:04:47,680 --> 01:04:52,400 Speaker 1: So uh, it just you know, how stubborn can you be? Yeah? 1265 01:04:52,720 --> 01:04:56,520 Speaker 1: Does does that? Does that? I'm trying to say here, 1266 01:04:57,560 --> 01:05:00,240 Speaker 1: does that ever change in any way on the very 1267 01:05:00,360 --> 01:05:02,120 Speaker 1: last day of a hunt? Like do you do you 1268 01:05:02,200 --> 01:05:04,680 Speaker 1: have a situation or are there examples were in the 1269 01:05:04,720 --> 01:05:07,080 Speaker 1: past you've you've ran a game, playing all the way 1270 01:05:07,120 --> 01:05:09,200 Speaker 1: to the end and then you get to that last 1271 01:05:09,280 --> 01:05:12,400 Speaker 1: day and you get a wild hair or you say, 1272 01:05:12,440 --> 01:05:14,280 Speaker 1: you know what, I just gotta try something new, or 1273 01:05:14,320 --> 01:05:16,080 Speaker 1: I just gotta do the crazy thing, or I just 1274 01:05:16,120 --> 01:05:20,720 Speaker 1: gotta try X. Do you ever have that happen? Yeah, 1275 01:05:20,920 --> 01:05:22,880 Speaker 1: I mean I've I've had that happen. And I've had 1276 01:05:22,920 --> 01:05:25,320 Speaker 1: it and and and just to be honest, I've had 1277 01:05:25,360 --> 01:05:28,760 Speaker 1: it not work out more so than you know, maybe 1278 01:05:28,760 --> 01:05:31,240 Speaker 1: I have had it work but you know, but that's 1279 01:05:31,280 --> 01:05:34,400 Speaker 1: I think that's to be expected. Um. You know, in 1280 01:05:34,680 --> 01:05:38,360 Speaker 1: in Nebraska in particular, I remember a hunt two years ago. 1281 01:05:38,480 --> 01:05:43,200 Speaker 1: We were there for thirteen days, um and very limited trees, 1282 01:05:43,440 --> 01:05:47,560 Speaker 1: very limited place you could put ladder stands or hanged on. UM. 1283 01:05:47,600 --> 01:05:49,880 Speaker 1: So I was I was kind of having to move 1284 01:05:49,960 --> 01:05:52,960 Speaker 1: my redneck bline you know, up and like just around, 1285 01:05:53,200 --> 01:05:55,240 Speaker 1: you know, different points of the field where these deer 1286 01:05:55,280 --> 01:05:57,640 Speaker 1: were coming. Well, I was trying not to get too 1287 01:05:57,640 --> 01:06:00,280 Speaker 1: close to where there were two or three tree else. 1288 01:06:01,000 --> 01:06:03,600 Speaker 1: Um that this he was a drop time eight pointer 1289 01:06:04,040 --> 01:06:06,040 Speaker 1: and you know where this deer was going. It was 1290 01:06:06,720 --> 01:06:10,720 Speaker 1: it was a really pretty deer, maybe a hundred fifty deer. UM. 1291 01:06:11,120 --> 01:06:13,720 Speaker 1: Never had killed a deer with the drop times of thought, Man, 1292 01:06:13,720 --> 01:06:17,520 Speaker 1: this would be really cool. But you know, I said, man, 1293 01:06:17,680 --> 01:06:20,280 Speaker 1: we're on day thirteen, like we gotta we gotta kind 1294 01:06:20,280 --> 01:06:22,720 Speaker 1: of go all in and get close to this spot. 1295 01:06:22,920 --> 01:06:24,880 Speaker 1: But I knew, you know, we're gonna have a good 1296 01:06:24,960 --> 01:06:27,520 Speaker 1: chance to go back maybe the middle of October. So 1297 01:06:27,600 --> 01:06:30,400 Speaker 1: if you're gonna try something like this now, maybe maybe 1298 01:06:30,480 --> 01:06:34,040 Speaker 1: now is the time to do it. Um. So, you know, 1299 01:06:34,120 --> 01:06:36,280 Speaker 1: we we have that mobile Redneck, put it on a 1300 01:06:36,320 --> 01:06:41,080 Speaker 1: trailer and I got within maybe fifty sixty yards of 1301 01:06:41,080 --> 01:06:42,600 Speaker 1: of where these deer were going, and there were a 1302 01:06:42,600 --> 01:06:45,200 Speaker 1: lot of deer coming down these two or three trails 1303 01:06:45,280 --> 01:06:47,920 Speaker 1: and actually saw him coming. It was not him that 1304 01:06:47,960 --> 01:06:50,000 Speaker 1: actually got spooked. It was really the deer that were 1305 01:06:50,000 --> 01:06:53,400 Speaker 1: in front of him, just kind of not liking the 1306 01:06:53,440 --> 01:06:55,840 Speaker 1: blind And even though you do have an enclosed Redneck, 1307 01:06:56,400 --> 01:06:58,080 Speaker 1: you know you still have sent you know, when you 1308 01:06:58,080 --> 01:06:59,840 Speaker 1: have to open up that front window, there's still some 1309 01:07:00,000 --> 01:07:02,920 Speaker 1: that can that can leak out and they're seeing you 1310 01:07:03,000 --> 01:07:04,760 Speaker 1: for the first time. You know, you've played it safe 1311 01:07:04,800 --> 01:07:08,280 Speaker 1: this long, but you know this this is uh, this 1312 01:07:08,320 --> 01:07:10,440 Speaker 1: is new for them. So you know, there were some 1313 01:07:10,520 --> 01:07:13,240 Speaker 1: deer that got the better of us on that one, 1314 01:07:13,280 --> 01:07:19,560 Speaker 1: and um it didn't work. Um, So that's but that's 1315 01:07:19,600 --> 01:07:21,960 Speaker 1: just kind of like I said, you know, part of it. 1316 01:07:22,000 --> 01:07:25,000 Speaker 1: And you know, I've maybe had one instance in Montana 1317 01:07:25,040 --> 01:07:27,120 Speaker 1: where we kind of went all out. There's a group 1318 01:07:27,120 --> 01:07:30,720 Speaker 1: of trees in the middle of alfalfa, and all all 1319 01:07:30,800 --> 01:07:35,280 Speaker 1: week long we were we were not not going in 1320 01:07:35,320 --> 01:07:38,320 Speaker 1: there because deer were on either side of this alfalfa, 1321 01:07:38,480 --> 01:07:39,919 Speaker 1: and we knew if we went in there and got 1322 01:07:39,920 --> 01:07:43,400 Speaker 1: in that got in that single row of trees, we 1323 01:07:43,400 --> 01:07:45,200 Speaker 1: were going to blow some deer. There were no if 1324 01:07:45,320 --> 01:07:48,840 Speaker 1: and butts about it. But it was next to last 1325 01:07:48,920 --> 01:07:50,760 Speaker 1: day of the hunt. Decided to go in there and 1326 01:07:50,760 --> 01:07:53,680 Speaker 1: hang a ladder mid morning. And another problem with that 1327 01:07:53,880 --> 01:07:56,600 Speaker 1: was deer were bedded out there in that alfalfa two 1328 01:07:56,880 --> 01:07:58,600 Speaker 1: and that was really the main problem why we didn't 1329 01:07:58,640 --> 01:08:01,720 Speaker 1: put a put a tree stand anything in there. But 1330 01:08:01,800 --> 01:08:03,800 Speaker 1: we went in there at ten o'clock, put up a 1331 01:08:03,880 --> 01:08:07,560 Speaker 1: ladder stand loose some deer out of there. It actually 1332 01:08:07,640 --> 01:08:10,240 Speaker 1: ended up paying off, you know, the deer actually when 1333 01:08:10,240 --> 01:08:12,880 Speaker 1: the wind started to die down late in the evening, 1334 01:08:13,840 --> 01:08:17,439 Speaker 1: um you know, he uh, the wind really wasn't blowing 1335 01:08:17,520 --> 01:08:20,640 Speaker 1: hard one direction, So it ended up working out. But 1336 01:08:20,760 --> 01:08:24,160 Speaker 1: you couldn't have guessed that beforehand. It was kind of 1337 01:08:24,200 --> 01:08:27,479 Speaker 1: just something that that just happened, you know. And I 1338 01:08:27,479 --> 01:08:30,240 Speaker 1: think a lot of deer hunting to requires a ton 1339 01:08:30,280 --> 01:08:34,080 Speaker 1: of luck. That has to go your way, man. So true, 1340 01:08:34,680 --> 01:08:37,200 Speaker 1: you just gotta do enough things right enough for the 1341 01:08:37,280 --> 01:08:40,559 Speaker 1: time to finally catch that lucky break to coincide with it. 1342 01:08:40,600 --> 01:08:43,559 Speaker 1: All right, yeah yeah, and you can overthink it. I mean, 1343 01:08:43,600 --> 01:08:45,160 Speaker 1: that's kind of what we were doing all week. I 1344 01:08:45,200 --> 01:08:46,759 Speaker 1: was like, man, I wish we had tried that earlier 1345 01:08:46,760 --> 01:08:49,000 Speaker 1: in the week. But you know, when you look at 1346 01:08:49,000 --> 01:08:51,639 Speaker 1: it from up top and you see, you know, twenty 1347 01:08:51,640 --> 01:08:54,200 Speaker 1: head of deer betted, I'm like, man, what can you 1348 01:08:54,240 --> 01:08:56,400 Speaker 1: really go in there and do without blowing everything out? 1349 01:08:56,400 --> 01:09:00,439 Speaker 1: And we did. I'd probably say, you know, that field, 1350 01:09:00,439 --> 01:09:03,000 Speaker 1: we we blew out. Um. But you know when we 1351 01:09:03,080 --> 01:09:04,880 Speaker 1: hun that stand up at ten o'clock, we sit in 1352 01:09:04,960 --> 01:09:07,400 Speaker 1: there all day and shot that dear maybe with ten 1353 01:09:07,479 --> 01:09:11,320 Speaker 1: minutes left to go um of daylight. Uh, you know 1354 01:09:11,360 --> 01:09:15,760 Speaker 1: for for camera. So um, that's it ended up working out, 1355 01:09:15,760 --> 01:09:19,160 Speaker 1: But not all the time. It does. Sometimes you gotta 1356 01:09:19,160 --> 01:09:23,720 Speaker 1: give a shot. Yeah. All right. Here's one last kind 1357 01:09:23,720 --> 01:09:27,599 Speaker 1: of tough rut scenario that kind of rears his ugly 1358 01:09:27,640 --> 01:09:30,640 Speaker 1: head every few years and we all bemoan it. But 1359 01:09:30,800 --> 01:09:33,920 Speaker 1: let's say it's like the second week in November and 1360 01:09:34,280 --> 01:09:37,120 Speaker 1: you're on your rut trip to whoever it is this 1361 01:09:37,120 --> 01:09:40,599 Speaker 1: this year on that date, will say probably Kansas, Iowa, 1362 01:09:40,680 --> 01:09:44,240 Speaker 1: somewhere in the Midwest. Again, beautiful time of year, right, 1363 01:09:44,280 --> 01:09:49,120 Speaker 1: should be, should be top notch, But your weather conditions 1364 01:09:49,200 --> 01:09:53,840 Speaker 1: for that week are hot. It's like seventies and lousy 1365 01:09:53,880 --> 01:09:57,960 Speaker 1: and you're miserable out there. How does your hunting strategy 1366 01:09:58,200 --> 01:10:01,080 Speaker 1: change at all for that time of year or does 1367 01:10:01,120 --> 01:10:02,960 Speaker 1: it change at all given the warm weather or do 1368 01:10:03,000 --> 01:10:07,960 Speaker 1: you stick to your usual rut kind of tactics? Mm hmm, Man, 1369 01:10:08,080 --> 01:10:10,760 Speaker 1: I actually, I mean I feel like I experienced a 1370 01:10:10,800 --> 01:10:13,280 Speaker 1: lot out there in Kansas, and I try to usually 1371 01:10:13,360 --> 01:10:15,759 Speaker 1: hunt that last week in October first week in November 1372 01:10:15,760 --> 01:10:19,200 Speaker 1: in Kansas every year. Um, if you know, if we're 1373 01:10:19,280 --> 01:10:23,360 Speaker 1: not somewhere else. But man, I've seen it happened out 1374 01:10:23,400 --> 01:10:25,799 Speaker 1: there as well. I mean you can. I still wouldn't 1375 01:10:26,320 --> 01:10:29,240 Speaker 1: be opposed to sitting all day, even in really hot conditions. 1376 01:10:29,640 --> 01:10:31,760 Speaker 1: You just kind of never know. That can be a 1377 01:10:31,800 --> 01:10:34,840 Speaker 1: magical time really, no matter what the weather. Um you 1378 01:10:34,880 --> 01:10:38,800 Speaker 1: know the moon as well. So UM, you know, I 1379 01:10:39,560 --> 01:10:42,200 Speaker 1: try not to let it change my strategy up too 1380 01:10:42,280 --> 01:10:45,800 Speaker 1: much because you know, I've heard plenty of stories from 1381 01:10:45,840 --> 01:10:49,880 Speaker 1: people that hunt around that around that area. Um. You know, 1382 01:10:49,960 --> 01:10:53,040 Speaker 1: don't let the weather dictate too much that time of year. 1383 01:10:53,120 --> 01:10:55,360 Speaker 1: It's it's not it's not what it was two or 1384 01:10:55,360 --> 01:10:58,080 Speaker 1: three weeks prior. Um. And you want to be in 1385 01:10:58,080 --> 01:10:59,920 Speaker 1: a tree as much as possible. You know, there's like 1386 01:11:00,080 --> 01:11:03,080 Speaker 1: there's a window usually anywhere from that first week of 1387 01:11:04,120 --> 01:11:07,280 Speaker 1: really that last week of October Halloween, those first couple 1388 01:11:07,280 --> 01:11:10,639 Speaker 1: of weeks in November. I throw every other strategy I've 1389 01:11:10,680 --> 01:11:13,240 Speaker 1: had up until then, from September and October kind of 1390 01:11:13,280 --> 01:11:17,719 Speaker 1: out the window, um, because you know, yeah, you expect 1391 01:11:17,720 --> 01:11:21,639 Speaker 1: the unexpected that time. UM. And that goes with any 1392 01:11:21,680 --> 01:11:23,960 Speaker 1: weather condition. You know, there have been so many deer 1393 01:11:24,439 --> 01:11:27,200 Speaker 1: that don't show up on my camera. Uh, you know 1394 01:11:27,240 --> 01:11:29,120 Speaker 1: when I'm out there in a tree, even when it's 1395 01:11:29,160 --> 01:11:33,920 Speaker 1: hot cold, um, that I wouldn't have seen if I 1396 01:11:34,000 --> 01:11:36,360 Speaker 1: wasn't out there. And then you kind of adjust in 1397 01:11:36,600 --> 01:11:39,479 Speaker 1: your your strategy from there. So I would say, I 1398 01:11:39,520 --> 01:11:41,080 Speaker 1: would say, I try to stick it out. You know, 1399 01:11:41,120 --> 01:11:43,000 Speaker 1: the ruts just one of those times a year you 1400 01:11:43,040 --> 01:11:45,519 Speaker 1: can't I can't think about it too much. You just 1401 01:11:45,520 --> 01:11:48,240 Speaker 1: got to be out there. Yeah, and what about like 1402 01:11:48,280 --> 01:11:51,280 Speaker 1: what's your favorite if you had to kind of describe 1403 01:11:51,320 --> 01:11:54,680 Speaker 1: your favorite rut type of setups. I mean, is it 1404 01:11:54,720 --> 01:11:57,479 Speaker 1: is it the typical stuff that we all hunt, or 1405 01:11:57,479 --> 01:11:59,840 Speaker 1: do you have something a little off the beaten path 1406 01:11:59,880 --> 01:12:01,360 Speaker 1: that you tend to like to do during that time 1407 01:12:01,400 --> 01:12:03,439 Speaker 1: of year. Paint me a picture of what a what 1408 01:12:03,520 --> 01:12:08,800 Speaker 1: a rut hunt set might look like for you. Um, 1409 01:12:08,840 --> 01:12:12,479 Speaker 1: you know, I feel like it's pretty you know, I 1410 01:12:12,520 --> 01:12:15,040 Speaker 1: am trying to. I am usually in Kansas, you know, 1411 01:12:15,080 --> 01:12:18,960 Speaker 1: mostly that time of year, but anything where I can see, 1412 01:12:19,400 --> 01:12:22,280 Speaker 1: you know, whether it be you know, standing beans, you 1413 01:12:22,320 --> 01:12:24,800 Speaker 1: know that time of year in Kansas. Um, you know, 1414 01:12:25,120 --> 01:12:27,599 Speaker 1: seeing deer out there, uh, you know during the rut 1415 01:12:27,640 --> 01:12:30,439 Speaker 1: and then also being able to see um, you know, 1416 01:12:30,640 --> 01:12:32,960 Speaker 1: different trails and stuff too, or if I get eyes 1417 01:12:33,000 --> 01:12:34,720 Speaker 1: on a deer, you know, I can maybe try to 1418 01:12:34,720 --> 01:12:37,680 Speaker 1: turn it with a grunt or a rattle, um, you know, 1419 01:12:37,720 --> 01:12:41,679 Speaker 1: but having as much having as much of a visual 1420 01:12:42,479 --> 01:12:45,920 Speaker 1: uh that time of year for and it cover as 1421 01:12:46,000 --> 01:12:49,680 Speaker 1: much ground, I feel like it's really critical. Um. I 1422 01:12:49,800 --> 01:12:52,240 Speaker 1: like to I like to be able to see and 1423 01:12:52,400 --> 01:12:54,800 Speaker 1: you know, just for for deer out there. I mean 1424 01:12:54,840 --> 01:12:57,240 Speaker 1: I had plenty of times. You know, it does not 1425 01:12:57,320 --> 01:12:59,960 Speaker 1: always a monster, but you you get a glimpse of deer. 1426 01:13:00,080 --> 01:13:03,000 Speaker 1: That's four five hundred yards out there. You start rattling 1427 01:13:03,040 --> 01:13:06,720 Speaker 1: that deer, a deer will turn and come. Um. So 1428 01:13:06,800 --> 01:13:09,400 Speaker 1: I'll like being able to see as much much as 1429 01:13:09,439 --> 01:13:12,280 Speaker 1: possible and and to maybe stay on a heavy trail. 1430 01:13:13,400 --> 01:13:17,160 Speaker 1: What's your what's your rattling your typical rattling sequence look 1431 01:13:17,240 --> 01:13:19,720 Speaker 1: like during the rut? I'm just kind of curious, like 1432 01:13:19,800 --> 01:13:22,360 Speaker 1: how long? How you know, is it is just one 1433 01:13:22,439 --> 01:13:25,040 Speaker 1: NonStop thing? Is it? Stop? Start? Stop? Start with? What's 1434 01:13:25,080 --> 01:13:28,960 Speaker 1: that look like? Yeah? So I try to do it, 1435 01:13:29,160 --> 01:13:31,840 Speaker 1: you know, maybe every thirty to forty five minutes, And 1436 01:13:31,880 --> 01:13:34,960 Speaker 1: so a rattling sequence may go for I don't know, 1437 01:13:35,040 --> 01:13:40,280 Speaker 1: maybe maybe sometimes even forty five seconds to a minute. Um, 1438 01:13:40,439 --> 01:13:44,160 Speaker 1: and and and then I'll try to lay off, you know, 1439 01:13:44,240 --> 01:13:47,600 Speaker 1: for like I said, thirty five minutes unless I you know, 1440 01:13:47,680 --> 01:13:50,760 Speaker 1: have a visual of a deer that you know, I'm 1441 01:13:50,760 --> 01:13:55,280 Speaker 1: interested in trying to get turned around to come our way. UM, 1442 01:13:55,280 --> 01:13:57,720 Speaker 1: try not to overdo it. I don't know if you 1443 01:13:57,880 --> 01:14:01,120 Speaker 1: if you can't overdo it that time of year, but um, 1444 01:14:01,439 --> 01:14:03,720 Speaker 1: I try to give it as that's kind of my 1445 01:14:03,840 --> 01:14:09,000 Speaker 1: gap time in between rattling. All right, man, you have 1446 01:14:09,160 --> 01:14:13,200 Speaker 1: made it through the main section of the gauntlet. But 1447 01:14:13,240 --> 01:14:16,800 Speaker 1: we've got this last set of rapid fire questions. So 1448 01:14:17,080 --> 01:14:20,160 Speaker 1: I've got five six questions here. I'm gonna ask you 1449 01:14:20,280 --> 01:14:22,400 Speaker 1: real quick, one after the other, and I'm just looking 1450 01:14:22,439 --> 01:14:24,960 Speaker 1: for like a one word answer or as quick of 1451 01:14:25,000 --> 01:14:26,280 Speaker 1: an answer as you can give me on these, and 1452 01:14:26,280 --> 01:14:29,719 Speaker 1: we'll just rattle through real fast. Okay, okay, sounds good. 1453 01:14:29,920 --> 01:14:33,200 Speaker 1: All right. These are a little controversial, tyler, So you 1454 01:14:33,280 --> 01:14:36,920 Speaker 1: might get some haters coming off of these, to be ready, 1455 01:14:37,080 --> 01:14:40,639 Speaker 1: plenty of those anyway. Yeah, you and me and both buddy, 1456 01:14:40,800 --> 01:14:43,840 Speaker 1: So here here we go. Does the moon matter to 1457 01:14:43,920 --> 01:14:48,160 Speaker 1: dear movement? Yes? Or no? Yes? Would you take a 1458 01:14:48,240 --> 01:14:52,439 Speaker 1: fifty yards shot at a white tail with your bow? Yes? 1459 01:14:53,280 --> 01:14:55,720 Speaker 1: If you could only have one of these tools for 1460 01:14:55,720 --> 01:14:57,759 Speaker 1: the rest of your hunts for the rest of your life, 1461 01:14:58,000 --> 01:15:03,360 Speaker 1: would you choose rattling antlers or or a grunt tube, 1462 01:15:02,600 --> 01:15:13,200 Speaker 1: grant expandable or fixed blade broadheads? There you go? Yeah, 1463 01:15:13,200 --> 01:15:17,759 Speaker 1: there's the haters. Um. Should you stop a walking buck 1464 01:15:18,120 --> 01:15:21,080 Speaker 1: with some kind of sound before shooting with your bow? Yes? 1465 01:15:21,200 --> 01:15:26,759 Speaker 1: Or no? Oh? Shoot? Um? Yes? Which state has better 1466 01:15:26,760 --> 01:15:34,920 Speaker 1: deer hunters? Georgia or Mississippi? Both? Yeah? Safe? Safe answer. 1467 01:15:35,479 --> 01:15:37,320 Speaker 1: All right, So here's the last one. This one is 1468 01:15:37,320 --> 01:15:40,640 Speaker 1: not quite as rapid fire. But let's imagine that I 1469 01:15:40,760 --> 01:15:46,120 Speaker 1: rule the world. I have control over all hunting scenarios, situations, 1470 01:15:46,600 --> 01:15:49,960 Speaker 1: license allocation, YadA, YadA, YadA. And here's the deal. I 1471 01:15:49,960 --> 01:15:53,640 Speaker 1: am going to take away your right to hunt for 1472 01:15:53,720 --> 01:15:56,479 Speaker 1: the next twenty years. You can't hunt ever again for 1473 01:15:56,479 --> 01:16:02,320 Speaker 1: twenty years, Tyler, unless unless you kill a mature buck 1474 01:16:03,040 --> 01:16:06,400 Speaker 1: in one day this season. I'm gonna let you pick 1475 01:16:06,479 --> 01:16:08,880 Speaker 1: the date. So pick the date on the calendar you 1476 01:16:08,920 --> 01:16:11,040 Speaker 1: want for this one hunt. And then you have to 1477 01:16:11,080 --> 01:16:14,759 Speaker 1: pick the one specific location. So tell me what state, 1478 01:16:15,040 --> 01:16:18,720 Speaker 1: tell me what the situation is, what you're set up is. 1479 01:16:19,600 --> 01:16:21,639 Speaker 1: Paint me the picture of what day and what you're 1480 01:16:21,640 --> 01:16:24,000 Speaker 1: set up is to kill this one mature buck you 1481 01:16:24,040 --> 01:16:28,200 Speaker 1: need to kill to save the next twenty years a hunting. Wow. 1482 01:16:28,439 --> 01:16:33,920 Speaker 1: That's that's tough. So save twenty years of hunting. Pick 1483 01:16:34,000 --> 01:16:38,679 Speaker 1: one spot. Um, I would say, you know, probably home, 1484 01:16:39,240 --> 01:16:41,400 Speaker 1: just because I'm so familiar with this place and have 1485 01:16:41,560 --> 01:16:44,080 Speaker 1: kind of grown up on it. Um. I really feel 1486 01:16:44,120 --> 01:16:46,439 Speaker 1: like even though that you know, the people would argue 1487 01:16:46,439 --> 01:16:48,640 Speaker 1: that maybe other places would be easier. I feel like 1488 01:16:48,680 --> 01:16:53,000 Speaker 1: I could have a good chance at a mature deer here. Um. 1489 01:16:53,040 --> 01:16:56,880 Speaker 1: You know, I'm just so familiar with this property, so 1490 01:16:56,960 --> 01:17:01,840 Speaker 1: I would say that, you know, maybe early sea season, um, 1491 01:17:01,880 --> 01:17:04,439 Speaker 1: you know, finding a spot like in the woods, kind 1492 01:17:04,439 --> 01:17:06,920 Speaker 1: of like what I had last year with with my 1493 01:17:07,000 --> 01:17:14,000 Speaker 1: dear hunting somewhere near Oaks pin Oaks, Water Oaks Salt too. Um, 1494 01:17:14,080 --> 01:17:16,559 Speaker 1: you know, so that would be that would probably be 1495 01:17:16,680 --> 01:17:24,080 Speaker 1: my deal. Setup is somewhere early season September. Um, let's 1496 01:17:24,120 --> 01:17:27,880 Speaker 1: just say for you know, we we've been we've been 1497 01:17:27,920 --> 01:17:30,160 Speaker 1: fortunate here to have a lot of mature deer still 1498 01:17:30,200 --> 01:17:34,200 Speaker 1: on a pattern early season, so I would say early 1499 01:17:34,240 --> 01:17:37,040 Speaker 1: season is really my favorite time. So let's just say 1500 01:17:37,040 --> 01:17:42,920 Speaker 1: September T I'll play the odds and and hopefully hopefully 1501 01:17:42,920 --> 01:17:46,280 Speaker 1: be able to get a mature buck down. But early season, 1502 01:17:47,000 --> 01:17:50,000 Speaker 1: early season in Georgia, probably hunt in the woods. I 1503 01:17:50,040 --> 01:17:53,200 Speaker 1: like it. You've bucked the usual trend most people pick 1504 01:17:53,320 --> 01:17:55,559 Speaker 1: like the first week in November in the Midwest. So 1505 01:17:55,640 --> 01:17:57,960 Speaker 1: I like that. You uh, you're willing to risk it 1506 01:17:58,040 --> 01:18:01,479 Speaker 1: in Georgia early season. That takes some going nuts. I 1507 01:18:01,560 --> 01:18:03,800 Speaker 1: like it. I think I think the reason why it 1508 01:18:03,880 --> 01:18:06,160 Speaker 1: is just you know, other places while it can be 1509 01:18:06,200 --> 01:18:09,519 Speaker 1: really good. It could be really unpredictable. Yeah, um, you know, 1510 01:18:09,560 --> 01:18:12,160 Speaker 1: and it may not pay off for me. But you know, 1511 01:18:12,920 --> 01:18:15,280 Speaker 1: I've always found I like early season more than I 1512 01:18:15,320 --> 01:18:17,680 Speaker 1: do maybe the end of October one November, while it 1513 01:18:17,720 --> 01:18:21,000 Speaker 1: can be fun um, you know, dear, a little bit 1514 01:18:21,040 --> 01:18:24,920 Speaker 1: more patterntable for us, that early part. Yeah, I really 1515 01:18:24,920 --> 01:18:28,639 Speaker 1: love that early season to something something pretty special about 1516 01:18:28,680 --> 01:18:31,240 Speaker 1: that that bed feed pattern. They can still be on 1517 01:18:31,360 --> 01:18:33,439 Speaker 1: and they can still be visible and you can figure 1518 01:18:33,479 --> 01:18:36,200 Speaker 1: them out and it's fun. It's a really good time. 1519 01:18:36,240 --> 01:18:40,679 Speaker 1: It is and we're getting close to it too. Exciting stuff, 1520 01:18:40,960 --> 01:18:44,080 Speaker 1: sure is. And uh, you made it through. You've completed 1521 01:18:44,120 --> 01:18:48,040 Speaker 1: the gauntlets, so h thanks thanks for for bearing with 1522 01:18:48,080 --> 01:18:50,000 Speaker 1: me on this and and taking a trip down a 1523 01:18:50,000 --> 01:18:54,000 Speaker 1: few of these wild storylines. No, it was fun, Mark, 1524 01:18:54,040 --> 01:18:56,160 Speaker 1: It's been been a pleasure. I really appreciate you having 1525 01:18:56,160 --> 01:18:58,120 Speaker 1: me on. Oh yeah, man, right back at you. I 1526 01:18:58,280 --> 01:19:00,680 Speaker 1: appreciate you taking the time. And and before you go, 1527 01:19:01,400 --> 01:19:04,320 Speaker 1: can you just feel folcus in on you know where 1528 01:19:04,360 --> 01:19:06,679 Speaker 1: they can catch the latest with the new season of 1529 01:19:06,680 --> 01:19:09,200 Speaker 1: of Road Trips and anything else you guys have got 1530 01:19:09,200 --> 01:19:11,519 Speaker 1: coming out that people should be keeping tabs on. How 1531 01:19:11,560 --> 01:19:14,599 Speaker 1: can they follow you throughout the year all that stuff. Yeah, 1532 01:19:14,880 --> 01:19:17,960 Speaker 1: So I have my own Instagram, Facebook, Tyler Jordan pretty 1533 01:19:17,960 --> 01:19:21,400 Speaker 1: easy to find. Realtory Road Trips UM is the digital 1534 01:19:21,479 --> 01:19:25,960 Speaker 1: show that we're hosting myself, Brian Brown, who's a producer. 1535 01:19:26,080 --> 01:19:28,080 Speaker 1: He'll be hunting on camera, and then we have a 1536 01:19:28,080 --> 01:19:32,200 Speaker 1: new addition, Michael Pitts will also be joining us. He'll 1537 01:19:32,200 --> 01:19:34,320 Speaker 1: be out there in Nebraska for that first week of 1538 01:19:34,760 --> 01:19:38,080 Speaker 1: most season. Chipper Jones will be out there with us. Um, 1539 01:19:38,120 --> 01:19:40,360 Speaker 1: we're gonna do some semi live hunts from out there. 1540 01:19:40,400 --> 01:19:43,120 Speaker 1: So excited to kind of going to go the Bill 1541 01:19:43,160 --> 01:19:45,439 Speaker 1: Winky model, and uh, you know, when we have hunts, 1542 01:19:45,439 --> 01:19:48,200 Speaker 1: we're gonna try to get them uploaded that night, maybe 1543 01:19:48,280 --> 01:19:51,080 Speaker 1: late in the night, but we're gonna have guys working 1544 01:19:51,120 --> 01:19:54,280 Speaker 1: hard trying to get that stuff edited and content out there. 1545 01:19:54,360 --> 01:19:58,439 Speaker 1: So um excited, can't wait to get the season going. 1546 01:19:58,479 --> 01:20:01,120 Speaker 1: And then after Nebraska, we're gonna be in Georgia. I 1547 01:20:01,360 --> 01:20:03,639 Speaker 1: got a couple of nice ones here. Maybe not quite 1548 01:20:03,640 --> 01:20:06,760 Speaker 1: as big as last year, but it's a nice dear nonetheless, 1549 01:20:06,840 --> 01:20:09,519 Speaker 1: and uh, looking forward to hunting with the family. So 1550 01:20:10,479 --> 01:20:14,160 Speaker 1: ready to kick off the twenty two season. Can't wait, awesome. Well, 1551 01:20:14,160 --> 01:20:16,240 Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to filling long Tyler, and keep up 1552 01:20:16,240 --> 01:20:19,719 Speaker 1: the great work and uh good luck this year. Awesome Martin, 1553 01:20:19,760 --> 01:20:22,360 Speaker 1: You two all right and that's a rap. Thank you 1554 01:20:22,560 --> 01:20:26,120 Speaker 1: for joining me, appreciate you. Make sure you're following along 1555 01:20:26,160 --> 01:20:29,200 Speaker 1: with Wired Hunt on Instagram, maybe on TikTok. Now I 1556 01:20:29,240 --> 01:20:32,719 Speaker 1: don't like TikTok, not a fan, but uh I'm there. 1557 01:20:33,360 --> 01:20:36,559 Speaker 1: That's another story though, So follow me on TikTok, follow 1558 01:20:36,600 --> 01:20:39,040 Speaker 1: me on a Wired to Hunt's Instagram account, Facebook, the 1559 01:20:39,040 --> 01:20:42,519 Speaker 1: Wired Hunt Weekly newsletter. Check it all out, Have a 1560 01:20:42,600 --> 01:20:45,640 Speaker 1: great day, Good luck with your summer scouting or your 1561 01:20:45,680 --> 01:20:48,519 Speaker 1: early season hunts. Whatever you're up to right now, get 1562 01:20:48,560 --> 01:20:52,840 Speaker 1: after it, have fun, and stay wired to Hunt.