1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:03,520 Speaker 1: GE Chairman and chief executive officer Larry Colp says the 2 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:08,000 Speaker 1: company's aerospace business could eventually see annual revenue soar above 3 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:12,719 Speaker 1: forty billion dollars. In an exclusive conversation with host David Weston, 4 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 1: Colp discusses how air travels post pandemic rebound is good 5 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:18,520 Speaker 1: news for GE. 6 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 2: We couldn't be in a better position with respect to 7 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 2: the post pandemic recovery in aerospace. You've seen the performance 8 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 2: thus far this year. We're really on a record pace 9 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:34,320 Speaker 2: given both the return to flight really around the world 10 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:39,519 Speaker 2: now is people get out and see people see places 11 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 2: they haven't been to, and at the same time they're 12 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:45,240 Speaker 2: looking to modernize and expand their fleets. So we have 13 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:50,279 Speaker 2: tremendous backlogs with our major airframers Boeing Airbus for example, 14 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 2: the supply chain challenges are significant and right alongside everything 15 00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 2: we're doing on the commercial side. We've seen a really 16 00:00:57,880 --> 00:01:01,280 Speaker 2: strong uptick in our defense business is one would imagine 17 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 2: both with fixed wing and rotary. So in terms of 18 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 2: how big this business can be, we're I think on 19 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 2: a path where we could be growing in the mid 20 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:14,039 Speaker 2: single digit, high single digit range for some time. That 21 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 2: would put us well north of forty billion dollars in 22 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 2: but a few years. A lot of opportunity we have 23 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 2: I think an ambable position in propulsion. But again, it's 24 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:26,399 Speaker 2: not about how big we get. It's about how strong 25 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:28,399 Speaker 2: we are and are we serving our customers? Are we 26 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:31,959 Speaker 2: taking care of our team? Are we doing well by 27 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:32,960 Speaker 2: way of our shareholders? 28 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 3: As you say, Lar, you're not going to get ahead 29 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 3: of the board of ge Airspace when you get to 30 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:41,200 Speaker 3: wise to do that. What's on the table As the 31 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:45,040 Speaker 3: point you've spent your five years really redoing the balance sheet, 32 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 3: really fixing the cash flow situation, retiring a lot of debt. 33 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 3: Capital allocation maybe hasn't been so much of an issue 34 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 3: because you're just trying to retire to that debt. Going forward, 35 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 3: you may well have some capital to work with. So 36 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 3: what are the possibilities, both in terms of acquisitions but 37 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 3: also sail potentially well. 38 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 2: I think that we want to be wise stewards of 39 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 2: that capital, right. I've long believed that investors give you 40 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:09,240 Speaker 2: a license to reinvest in your business, and you need 41 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:12,280 Speaker 2: to be careful with that license lest it gets pulled. 42 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:13,959 Speaker 2: But I think what we've tried to do is set 43 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 2: up all three of the businesses to be in a 44 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 2: position where they are well capitalized, investment grade and will 45 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:25,919 Speaker 2: have the opportunities to think through not only their organic options, 46 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:31,080 Speaker 2: be at M and a small mid size probably not 47 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:34,640 Speaker 2: something large and headline breaking, but at the same time, 48 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:36,920 Speaker 2: how do we think about buybacks, how do we think 49 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:38,920 Speaker 2: about dividends? So I think you'll see each of the 50 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:43,080 Speaker 2: three companies, once we spend Giev Vernova sometime early next year, 51 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 2: be in a position where they'll have tailored, balanced capital 52 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 2: allocation policies that will be in effect. Confident all three 53 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:56,959 Speaker 2: boards will carry forward that responsibility. 54 00:02:57,000 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 3: Well, you mentioned Vernovo. Let's turn to power. Renewals have 55 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:02,960 Speaker 3: been a challenge for just about everybody at this point, 56 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 3: including for GEO. Though you think you're going to get 57 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:09,360 Speaker 3: toward profitability before the spinoffice, I understand it, Yes, what 58 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 3: are the challenges? What is the potential for profitability out 59 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:13,799 Speaker 3: of that renewables business? 60 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:17,119 Speaker 2: Well, we've made a lot of progress, David in our 61 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 2: ge power businesses the last several years. That's really been 62 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 2: I think ground zero with respect to the improvements that 63 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 2: we have made in Vernova and ge at large, and 64 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 2: we're really running the power playbook in our renewables businesses, 65 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 2: principally in on shore wind, which is I think the 66 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 2: battleground today. We think that can be a high single 67 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 2: digit operating margin business in time. Everything that we've talked 68 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 2: about over the last four quarters in terms of the 69 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 2: nature of that turnaround has really played out, both in 70 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 2: terms of our field performance, are cost reduction efforts and 71 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 2: just the day to day rhythms in the business. I 72 00:03:57,440 --> 00:04:00,200 Speaker 2: was with them just a couple of weeks ago, and 73 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 2: I'm really encouraged by what we're seeing. The Inflation Reduction 74 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 2: Act has driven a lot of demand not only in 75 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 2: our and our offshore wind businesses, but also in our 76 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 2: grid automation businesses. 77 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:15,839 Speaker 1: That's GE chairman and CEO Larry Colp speaking with host 78 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 1: David Weston. You can hear this full conversation on Friday 79 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 1: night on Bloomberg Wall Street Week that starts at six 80 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 1: pm Eastern on Bloomberg TV and Radio.