WEBVTT - SPECIAL EPISODE: Should Christians Celebrate Easter? 0:00:00.880 --> 0:00:06.760 Maybe it's that Easter. The question is should Christians celebrate Easter? 0:00:08.320 --> 0:00:13.280 I'm going to start with, do you think because this 0:00:13.360 --> 0:00:19.200 is in the last fifty years, that question has asked 0:00:19.239 --> 0:00:22.200 more now than it ever has been. I'm not talking 0:00:22.200 --> 0:00:23.800 about a hundred years or tw hunred year. I'm talking 0:00:23.800 --> 0:00:27.440 about the last fifty That question our lifetime, our lifetime. Yeah, 0:00:27.520 --> 0:00:30.600 that question has resurfaced. Who do you think is the 0:00:30.640 --> 0:00:34.760 louder voice right now on if Christians should celebrate Easter? 0:00:35.240 --> 0:00:37.000 And I say it that specific way, I'm not talking 0:00:37.000 --> 0:00:40.520 about resurrection Sunday. I'm talking about the word Easter. Should 0:00:40.520 --> 0:00:44.400 celebrate it in the way that well, there's ways that 0:00:44.440 --> 0:00:47.360 we could celebrate it, you know, there's like levels of celebration. 0:00:47.440 --> 0:00:50.279 We'll talk about that. True, But who do you think 0:00:50.320 --> 0:00:53.800 is a louder voice? The people against what we're saying 0:00:53.800 --> 0:00:54.760 are the people for it? 0:00:55.160 --> 0:00:58.520 You mean, against celebrating Easter? Yes, yeah, against I think right, 0:00:58.520 --> 0:01:01.480 I think just because the question is that that's the 0:01:01.520 --> 0:01:04.800 louder voice. The question is should you celebrate Easter? That 0:01:04.880 --> 0:01:06.960 means that everybody's going, well, I don't know, should we 0:01:07.000 --> 0:01:09.360 celebrates Let's talk about that And that's and that's the 0:01:09.440 --> 0:01:11.399 louder one right now, yea, yeah, and I think it 0:01:11.400 --> 0:01:13.280 goes in waves. Yeah, and I'm not sure that it's 0:01:13.319 --> 0:01:17.800 one time over last fifty years. I've heard several times, 0:01:17.800 --> 0:01:19.119 but it's probably the loudest right now. 0:01:19.360 --> 0:01:22.440 Yeah. So growing up, do you celebrate Easter? 0:01:22.600 --> 0:01:25.440 Well? Yeah, And I thought, honestly as a kid, it 0:01:25.600 --> 0:01:29.040 was the most Jesus holiday that we celebrated. 0:01:29.720 --> 0:01:31.119 Yeah. Well, I mean the. 0:01:32.480 --> 0:01:37.160 Yes speak like just thinking about the what the holiday means. 0:01:37.400 --> 0:01:41.840 The resurrection is, the is the hinge of the of 0:01:41.880 --> 0:01:47.240 all humanity. The birth of Christ is only pointing towards that. Sure, 0:01:47.360 --> 0:01:51.240 and the birth is one instance. He had his birthday 0:01:51.280 --> 0:01:53.440 and it was over. That's Christmas, right, And then with 0:01:53.520 --> 0:01:57.040 Easter you have it. Depending on what faith. 0:01:56.840 --> 0:01:59.600 You are, you may have been celebrating for the last 0:01:59.600 --> 0:02:02.640 month and half not eating certain things or giving something 0:02:02.680 --> 0:02:05.960 up with lint, and then on Fridays going to McDonald's 0:02:05.960 --> 0:02:08.359 and having your fish sandwiches and what have you, and 0:02:08.480 --> 0:02:12.000 then doing a good Friday something and then doing a Sunday. 0:02:12.040 --> 0:02:14.080 So that's why I say I think it was the 0:02:14.240 --> 0:02:18.280 most centered in the word than any other holiday we celebrated, 0:02:18.960 --> 0:02:20.280 especially including Christmas. 0:02:20.400 --> 0:02:22.720 Yeah, even if you look at the creation of the universe, 0:02:23.160 --> 0:02:27.440 it was always pointing toward the resurrection of the God Man, 0:02:27.600 --> 0:02:30.120 the Christ, the Messiah, who would come to save the 0:02:30.160 --> 0:02:33.000 world for those that look to him for forgiveness. So 0:02:33.600 --> 0:02:40.160 every miracle, every god movement, including the birth of Christ 0:02:40.360 --> 0:02:45.480 on Christmas, was always pointing towards this, this, this celebration. 0:02:46.440 --> 0:02:49.320 So when I just say it that way, you think, 0:02:50.000 --> 0:02:51.200 why wouldn't we celebrate that? 0:02:51.280 --> 0:02:51.919 Yeah, of course. 0:02:52.360 --> 0:02:55.280 And the quick answer before we get into our stuff, 0:02:55.480 --> 0:02:58.639 and I guess the outline of this will be, well, 0:02:58.919 --> 0:03:00.919 we'll talk about this, We'll go back and forth on 0:03:00.919 --> 0:03:05.760 on some history. We'll talk about the how accurate that 0:03:05.840 --> 0:03:09.320 history even can be that we could know it as history, 0:03:09.760 --> 0:03:13.480 and we'll then we'll end, we'll end with our opinions, 0:03:13.960 --> 0:03:15.160 which I don't know what yours is. 0:03:15.680 --> 0:03:16.400 You know what mine is. 0:03:16.480 --> 0:03:20.160 So so we'll start with this. 0:03:24.720 --> 0:03:25.320 There are. 0:03:26.680 --> 0:03:29.640 I guess there are, like you said, it comes in waves, 0:03:29.720 --> 0:03:33.920 and there are many people that would say we should 0:03:33.960 --> 0:03:37.880 celebrate the resurrection every Sunday. 0:03:38.080 --> 0:03:40.800 Right, Well, no, we should celebrate it every day. We 0:03:40.840 --> 0:03:41.720 shouldn't say Sunday. 0:03:41.760 --> 0:03:43.960 I just in terms of the gathering of the people, 0:03:45.960 --> 0:03:51.839 we should we should celebrate it every day. Seventh Day 0:03:51.880 --> 0:03:54.000 Adventists will be like, you should celebrate on Saturdays. But 0:03:54.040 --> 0:03:57.240 that's that's another podcast for another time, and we could 0:03:57.280 --> 0:03:59.720 be happy to walk through that as well, which is 0:03:59.760 --> 0:04:04.560 another good question. But should we celebrate the resurrection every day? 0:04:05.000 --> 0:04:05.480 Start with that? 0:04:06.080 --> 0:04:08.480 Yes, of course, yes, of course, without question. 0:04:08.560 --> 0:04:11.720 Easy, that's an easy I think we made the easy argument. 0:04:11.800 --> 0:04:13.880 The whole world is centered around that. Did you get 0:04:13.880 --> 0:04:15.720 out of bed? Did he leave the grave? 0:04:16.120 --> 0:04:16.480 That's it. 0:04:17.520 --> 0:04:20.120 Yeah, he got out of bed, he left the grave. 0:04:20.240 --> 0:04:21.400 Let's let's celebrate. 0:04:21.520 --> 0:04:24.120 Yeah, So tell me about your your Easter growing up. 0:04:24.320 --> 0:04:28.120 Easter growing up, and it's funny still today my mom 0:04:28.360 --> 0:04:30.880 will ask my wife to be sure and get me 0:04:31.240 --> 0:04:35.200 a chocolate bunny because she always did. That was something, 0:04:35.200 --> 0:04:37.440 you know, regardless of how big the basket was, if 0:04:37.440 --> 0:04:39.680 there was even a basket that you got, you know, 0:04:39.720 --> 0:04:43.359 on Sunday morning, Uh, there was always chocolate bunny. And 0:04:43.360 --> 0:04:46.080 now they used to be solid, all every one of 0:04:46.120 --> 0:04:48.600 them are solid. Man, They were good. They would last 0:04:48.600 --> 0:04:50.600 about a month for me in a fridge, you know, 0:04:50.760 --> 0:04:55.000 and then then now they're all hollow. That speaks to 0:04:55.040 --> 0:04:58.000 the world we're in right now. Yeah, But Uh, yeah, 0:04:58.040 --> 0:05:00.440 that was That's probably the most memorable. Well, of course, 0:05:00.680 --> 0:05:02.839 you know, hunting Easter eggs, but the biggest thing was 0:05:02.880 --> 0:05:05.719 always I couldn't understand as a kid what why it 0:05:05.760 --> 0:05:12.000 was called Good Friday when Jesus died. And two was 0:05:12.040 --> 0:05:14.920 the you know, going to church on Sunday. And and 0:05:15.200 --> 0:05:17.919 that was probably the first time I ever wore a suit. 0:05:18.720 --> 0:05:21.279 It's kind of just just things I'm pulling out that 0:05:21.320 --> 0:05:23.120 I remember as a kid. You know, I get a 0:05:23.160 --> 0:05:26.360 suit for Easter, and that was good for everything else 0:05:26.400 --> 0:05:27.880 that happened that year if I needed a suit. 0:05:28.000 --> 0:05:29.160 Right, this is Oklahoma. 0:05:29.240 --> 0:05:32.479 This is Oklahoma. Yeah, southern in Oklahoma. And uh but yeah, 0:05:32.520 --> 0:05:35.480 I mean we walking distance to our Methodist church, and 0:05:35.960 --> 0:05:37.719 you know I was hunting for eggs all the way there, 0:05:37.720 --> 0:05:39.800 because we did walk on the Easter Sunday, we'd walk 0:05:39.839 --> 0:05:40.200 down there. 0:05:40.480 --> 0:05:42.359 How far is the walk a block? 0:05:42.920 --> 0:05:45.400 Okay, maybe a block and a half maybe, Yeah, it 0:05:45.440 --> 0:05:47.800 was very very close. In fact, I was just back 0:05:47.839 --> 0:05:50.280 there and it you know, when you become an adult, 0:05:50.320 --> 0:05:53.320 everything that seemed big becomes smaller. Well, this is already short, 0:05:53.400 --> 0:05:56.680 and now I'm like that was across the street basically, 0:05:56.720 --> 0:06:00.000 you know, everything so small in compact when you're an adult. 0:06:00.000 --> 0:06:02.760 But yeah, that's what we did. We always did the 0:06:03.120 --> 0:06:07.599 Easter dying on I guess dying the Easter eggs on Saturday, 0:06:07.680 --> 0:06:11.839 if I'm not mistaken, Friday or Saturday. And yeah, we 0:06:11.880 --> 0:06:14.400 didn't have money eggs. We didn't have cash eggs, we 0:06:14.440 --> 0:06:18.400 didn't have prize eggs. We just had hard boiled eggs 0:06:18.400 --> 0:06:21.159 that had die on you were happy with them, and 0:06:21.240 --> 0:06:24.040 a chocolate bunny. It's true. Yeah, how about you. 0:06:24.880 --> 0:06:27.840 Yeah, it's surprisingly similar in a lot of ways. My 0:06:28.080 --> 0:06:34.880 grandmother who on my dad's side, specifically, for some reason, 0:06:35.440 --> 0:06:39.080 we would celebrate Easter with them, my grandma and grandpa. 0:06:39.279 --> 0:06:41.000 That was their holiday with the family. 0:06:41.120 --> 0:06:43.120 Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't know how it got a 0:06:43.160 --> 0:06:45.680 sign that way. I'm not sure besides the fact that 0:06:45.800 --> 0:06:47.279 they loved Easter. 0:06:47.920 --> 0:06:48.560 I loved it. 0:06:48.839 --> 0:06:51.440 In fact, my grandpa, he's the one that flew the 0:06:51.440 --> 0:06:53.560 B twenty four. It seems like I talk about him 0:06:53.640 --> 0:06:57.360 quite a bit of right now about him talking about this. 0:06:59.640 --> 0:07:02.479 And so we got together with them, and they lived 0:07:02.480 --> 0:07:06.880 in San Antonio, and almost everybody lived north of there, 0:07:06.960 --> 0:07:09.120 which is the most of the world lives north of 0:07:09.160 --> 0:07:12.760 San Antonio. You know, that's down south for all Texans. 0:07:13.320 --> 0:07:16.680 And so they ended up. Grandpa built a house I 0:07:16.720 --> 0:07:20.760 called him Paul. Paul built a house on Lake lbj 0:07:21.120 --> 0:07:23.600 O Cool and this was back when it was just 0:07:23.800 --> 0:07:27.120 they were given away land out there, and so he 0:07:27.160 --> 0:07:30.000 built a little house and we called it the Lake House. 0:07:30.600 --> 0:07:33.119 And we would come together from all the different parts 0:07:33.120 --> 0:07:35.040 of the state. There were five kids on that side 0:07:35.080 --> 0:07:38.960 and all the grandkids. We would get together, and to me, 0:07:39.120 --> 0:07:41.920 it was always connected with the weather's getting a little 0:07:41.920 --> 0:07:48.240 bit warmer, but it's still cool. Blue bonnets are out, Yeah, 0:07:48.360 --> 0:07:50.280 Texas flowers, everything's green. 0:07:50.400 --> 0:07:51.080 I always say. 0:07:50.920 --> 0:07:54.400 Texas has got her best dress on in the springtime. 0:07:55.040 --> 0:08:01.040 And my grandma, who I called Granta, she loved her 0:08:01.120 --> 0:08:06.040 chocolate bunny and she because they were Episcopalian, I will 0:08:06.160 --> 0:08:09.720 a little asterisk they were. It was it was a 0:08:09.760 --> 0:08:16.400 conservative what we we the Episcopal Church is not the same, 0:08:16.760 --> 0:08:17.960 I'll say as it used to be. 0:08:18.560 --> 0:08:20.040 But she was. 0:08:21.760 --> 0:08:26.960 She loved the Lord and was so faithful, and she 0:08:27.000 --> 0:08:33.720 celebrated lint that the Episcopal Church celebrates lint. And she 0:08:33.720 --> 0:08:36.160 would give up chocolate every year because she loved it. 0:08:36.600 --> 0:08:39.439 She loved chocolate, gave it up for lint, and then 0:08:39.520 --> 0:08:43.320 on Easter Easter Sunday, she got her bunny, her chocolate bunny, 0:08:43.360 --> 0:08:47.480 and she was content with with breaking lint with a bunny, 0:08:47.920 --> 0:08:52.160 you know. And so so many of my memories are 0:08:52.160 --> 0:08:54.440 with her. And we had the little baskets we had, 0:08:54.440 --> 0:08:56.880 you know, my little you know socks with the stripes 0:08:56.920 --> 0:09:00.560 pulled up, and my little you know, pastel shorts and 0:09:00.880 --> 0:09:03.240 shirt and Tyler's out with me. And this is before 0:09:03.320 --> 0:09:06.320 Parker's days, Parker wasn't born, and all the grandkids and 0:09:06.360 --> 0:09:11.360 we would go out in the Texas cool green, lush 0:09:11.480 --> 0:09:15.800 grass with with wild flowers and and look for eggs 0:09:15.840 --> 0:09:17.640 similar to you. We would have the you know, hard 0:09:17.640 --> 0:09:20.920 boiled eggs that we would We would die the the 0:09:21.000 --> 0:09:24.480 night before and we ate a lot of eggs that morning, 0:09:24.559 --> 0:09:25.720 you know, with some salt and pepper. 0:09:27.040 --> 0:09:29.440 You didn't get you didn't get scrambled eggs, that sunny one. 0:09:29.520 --> 0:09:30.680 You got a hard boiled yeah. 0:09:30.960 --> 0:09:32.160 And we'd had a little basket. 0:09:32.200 --> 0:09:33.719 We would we would put out a little basket and 0:09:33.720 --> 0:09:38.240 it would get filled the next day with some candy 0:09:38.600 --> 0:09:40.240 and some chocolates. 0:09:40.320 --> 0:09:42.880 And if my mom. 0:09:42.720 --> 0:09:44.480 Was here, she could remind me of all the you know, 0:09:44.480 --> 0:09:47.400 a little there was always like an orange or and apple, 0:09:47.480 --> 0:09:49.480 you know, different things like that in the basket. 0:09:49.600 --> 0:09:51.240 Something practical along with this. 0:09:51.240 --> 0:09:54.520 Yeah, something practical, like literally like a toothbrush and toothpaste 0:09:54.520 --> 0:09:59.160 a lot of times, and maybe like a little book, 0:09:59.240 --> 0:10:02.080 a little Bible book or something, you know, something like that. 0:10:03.480 --> 0:10:04.920 As we got older, it would be like a CD. 0:10:05.559 --> 0:10:08.040 Oh yeah, like a DVD, you know, or something. It 0:10:08.080 --> 0:10:12.000 would be in that basket. Uh and yeah, always just great, 0:10:12.440 --> 0:10:16.040 great memories. It was kind of the gateway to summer's 0:10:16.080 --> 0:10:20.720 coming soon, you know, similar to you you know, although 0:10:20.720 --> 0:10:22.760 we celebrated it and we talked about it, and my 0:10:22.800 --> 0:10:25.840 grandmother was the first to say he has risen and 0:10:25.880 --> 0:10:29.840 we would repeat back, he has risen indeed, but didn't 0:10:29.920 --> 0:10:32.480 quite know what that meant as a kid. 0:10:32.720 --> 0:10:34.760 Did you do sunrise service? I forgot about that. 0:10:35.760 --> 0:10:40.520 Yes, it wasn't consistent to do sunrise service, but we did. 0:10:40.760 --> 0:10:42.480 It was something that we have done. 0:10:42.679 --> 0:10:45.040 Yeah, yeah, that's not that. When I got older, I 0:10:45.040 --> 0:10:47.160 guess I remember that more than than just going to 0:10:47.240 --> 0:10:50.400 the service of being sunner up so early. Yeah, you 0:10:50.400 --> 0:10:52.040 gotta be able to get ready so you can be 0:10:52.040 --> 0:10:54.520 there when the sunrises. Yeah, you walk there in the 0:10:54.600 --> 0:10:55.080 dark can. 0:10:55.679 --> 0:10:57.680 So that was that was my childhood Easter. 0:10:57.800 --> 0:11:00.599 And you know, you get older and you know, you 0:11:00.679 --> 0:11:02.199 get you reflect back. 0:11:02.640 --> 0:11:06.040 We sound like we have. We had a similar upbringing, and. 0:11:06.200 --> 0:11:10.120 Most people probably listening that were raised in the in 0:11:10.160 --> 0:11:14.520 the eighties had a similar similar I think the nineties too, 0:11:14.559 --> 0:11:17.160 probably even early two thousands. But there's been a major 0:11:17.200 --> 0:11:22.240 shift and the pendulum swings and it's good. The pendulum 0:11:22.440 --> 0:11:25.600 of life is sometimes it's like a strong breeze that 0:11:25.920 --> 0:11:28.120 needs to blow out some dead branches that get caught 0:11:28.160 --> 0:11:30.480 up in the top, and it needs to it needs 0:11:30.480 --> 0:11:34.320 to make way for the new fresh branches before things 0:11:34.320 --> 0:11:38.880 get stagnant again. This happens in life. The fundamentalist movement, 0:11:39.240 --> 0:11:41.520 the Christian fundamentalist movement that happened at the in the 0:11:41.559 --> 0:11:47.000 early twentieth century, was a result of this kind of stagnation. 0:11:46.600 --> 0:11:48.640 That was happening sure and. 0:11:48.640 --> 0:11:53.360 People people realized that Christianity was getting liberal and the 0:11:53.400 --> 0:11:58.720 Bible was getting to be an afterthought. And this happened 0:11:58.760 --> 0:12:03.760 in the Great Awakening, and it happened it happens throughout history. 0:12:03.800 --> 0:12:05.880 You could always market and you look back and you 0:12:05.920 --> 0:12:10.000 go things were getting stagnant, Things were getting liberal and 0:12:10.040 --> 0:12:13.600 they needed to smack everybody in the face again and say, hey, 0:12:13.760 --> 0:12:15.239 go back to the scriptures. 0:12:15.280 --> 0:12:16.520 What did the scriptures say. 0:12:17.880 --> 0:12:21.160 One instance of that is the Puritans, the Puritans after 0:12:21.200 --> 0:12:27.960 the Reformation, the split from the Catholic Church, the Reformers 0:12:28.600 --> 0:12:33.120 became pretty stagnant, they became pretty liberal in the Church 0:12:33.160 --> 0:12:35.480 of England was on their rise and it just started 0:12:35.520 --> 0:12:40.200 kind of taking on the same repetitive nature of the 0:12:40.200 --> 0:12:43.120 Catholic Church that they split from. And there were groups 0:12:43.160 --> 0:12:47.360 like the Quakers and the Puritans that said, you know, 0:12:47.440 --> 0:12:50.800 the people that actually fled and founded this country in 0:12:50.840 --> 0:12:54.840 America because of religious persecutions, and it wasn't because of 0:12:54.840 --> 0:12:56.599 the Catholic Church a lot sometimes it was because of 0:12:56.640 --> 0:13:00.520 the Church of England Protestants, and they said, what are 0:13:00.520 --> 0:13:04.439 you doing. You're you're just you're fading back into this 0:13:05.120 --> 0:13:07.240 man made religiosity. 0:13:07.320 --> 0:13:08.640 We can't do this. 0:13:08.800 --> 0:13:11.560 We need to go back to the scriptures and be 0:13:11.679 --> 0:13:15.400 followers of Christ and take up our cross. And the Puritans, 0:13:16.160 --> 0:13:18.680 which I love the pure I love reading Puritan writing. 0:13:19.080 --> 0:13:22.840 I love the Christ honoring literature that they have and 0:13:22.880 --> 0:13:25.880 the way they thought, you know, it was life or 0:13:25.880 --> 0:13:29.720 death for them, and then stuff like Easter and Christmas. 0:13:29.720 --> 0:13:32.640 They said, we're done with these holids, right, you. 0:13:32.600 --> 0:13:35.160 Know, anything you feel comfortable with, if you feel comfortable 0:13:35.200 --> 0:13:36.840 in any way, it's gone. Yeah. 0:13:36.920 --> 0:13:39.559 So you know, the the original founders of this country 0:13:39.960 --> 0:13:42.080 really thought that way. In fact, you and I were 0:13:42.120 --> 0:13:46.240 reading this little article here that in fact, they the 0:13:46.360 --> 0:13:49.760 Puritans that settled the United States in the early days, 0:13:49.800 --> 0:13:55.640 that settled the the the New England colonies, they were 0:13:55.640 --> 0:14:02.120 celebrating Commencement Day, election Day, and Thanksgiving. So they were 0:14:02.200 --> 0:14:05.760 celebrating holidays. Yeah, but they were not celebrating any religious 0:14:05.800 --> 0:14:10.959 holiday because because it was either a distraction or atain 0:14:11.040 --> 0:14:11.800 ittain it. 0:14:11.880 --> 0:14:15.480 Yeah. Yeah, I mean you think about Thanksgiving. Thanksgiving was 0:14:15.480 --> 0:14:18.360 wasn't a religious holiday. He was a man made holiday 0:14:18.520 --> 0:14:21.520 to give thanks and it mostly stayed that way. Imagine 0:14:21.520 --> 0:14:22.800 most of their time, you know, it is to give 0:14:22.840 --> 0:14:23.640 thanks for right. 0:14:23.840 --> 0:14:26.960 And so even today that like Thanksgiving, is not debated. 0:14:27.560 --> 0:14:30.240 When exactly should Christians celebrate Thanksgiving? 0:14:30.240 --> 0:14:33.280 Should we do a podcast around Thanksgiving? Should Christians celebrate 0:14:33.320 --> 0:14:35.960 thanks Should we fry the turkey or should we bake 0:14:36.040 --> 0:14:36.600 the turkey? 0:14:36.880 --> 0:14:41.040 Should we stir controversy? Christians should celebrate right? 0:14:41.120 --> 0:14:44.600 Yeahving, Yeah, well I never thought about that Jesus didn't 0:14:44.600 --> 0:14:45.840 have a smoker, or did it. 0:14:47.160 --> 0:14:48.840 Yeah, we should. 0:14:48.520 --> 0:14:51.400 Create a controversy just for the sake of it's the 0:14:51.440 --> 0:14:53.840 one that doesn't have controversially, let's start it. 0:14:55.240 --> 0:14:58.240 So uh so that that brings us to today twenty 0:14:58.280 --> 0:15:02.080 twenty five, I believe so. Certainly there is I mean 0:15:02.160 --> 0:15:04.880 not not in the fundamentalist movement and certainly not in 0:15:04.920 --> 0:15:09.280 the Puritan movement and the Great Awakening, but there is 0:15:10.160 --> 0:15:13.000 there is a stirring, there is a wind blowing that 0:15:13.120 --> 0:15:16.720 more and more people are saying, hmm, maybe the Amish 0:15:16.800 --> 0:15:19.680 have had it right for a while, maybe the Puritans 0:15:19.720 --> 0:15:20.120 were right. 0:15:20.840 --> 0:15:23.880 What are we doing? And it's clear why we say that. 0:15:23.960 --> 0:15:26.680 You look at the TV, and Easter has nothing to 0:15:26.720 --> 0:15:28.240 do with Christ anymore, not at all. 0:15:28.560 --> 0:15:31.720 And Christmas has nothing commercially for birth of Christ. 0:15:33.360 --> 0:15:37.840 And perhaps even Christmas still has a more of Christ 0:15:37.880 --> 0:15:41.920 in it kind of than Easter, but Easter's almost completely 0:15:41.960 --> 0:15:46.240 lost it. And so I think there are movements today 0:15:46.320 --> 0:15:52.400 where that's a legit question should Christians even celebrate at all? 0:15:52.800 --> 0:15:55.920 That's that's actually not how we started this idea of 0:15:55.920 --> 0:16:00.280 this podcast. We started it with saying, should we sellbrate 0:16:00.320 --> 0:16:04.280 the pagan aspects, right, are so called pagan acts? 0:16:04.400 --> 0:16:06.240 Well, a lot of people think that a lot of 0:16:06.240 --> 0:16:09.080 them are. And some of the research that I've done 0:16:09.240 --> 0:16:12.480 just well that I've allowed, I've taken from someone else 0:16:12.520 --> 0:16:14.000 who does research. How about that? 0:16:14.120 --> 0:16:15.440 Let me know, let me know what you got. 0:16:15.520 --> 0:16:17.720 And uh, you know, a lot of the pagan stuff 0:16:17.720 --> 0:16:21.200 that we hear about a lot sometimes it's just misconstrued, 0:16:21.400 --> 0:16:24.320 not without some foundation of truth in there. Of going 0:16:24.400 --> 0:16:26.600 and if this, if this does have this reflection of 0:16:26.880 --> 0:16:29.040 a pagan holiday, maybe we need to get rid of 0:16:29.040 --> 0:16:31.160 that in our Christian holiday? Why are we doing that? 0:16:31.200 --> 0:16:33.640 But some things aren't They have no basis in it. 0:16:34.160 --> 0:16:39.160 The name, uh they In fact, there's only like out 0:16:39.160 --> 0:16:41.920 of I believe it's out of German language and English 0:16:42.040 --> 0:16:44.560 language are the only two that have anything that sound 0:16:44.720 --> 0:16:48.480 like Easter. Obviously we do Easter, but everything else I 0:16:48.520 --> 0:16:54.800 believe the word is pashka, which is the it lines 0:16:54.920 --> 0:17:00.440 up with Passover and so Easter in all the other language, 0:17:00.520 --> 0:17:02.920 especially I think it was Latin. Anything with a Latin 0:17:03.520 --> 0:17:07.720 kind of background language, it's called pashka and it's about 0:17:07.760 --> 0:17:10.840 the passover. So rather than in the exact same word 0:17:11.240 --> 0:17:13.520 so where did like Easter come up? Well, a lot 0:17:13.520 --> 0:17:16.360 of people think that it has to do with Ishtar, 0:17:16.480 --> 0:17:18.920 which I believe is a god or goddess or something 0:17:18.960 --> 0:17:22.520 like that, has nothing to do with that. The name 0:17:22.560 --> 0:17:24.239 has nothing to do that. In fact, they think it 0:17:24.320 --> 0:17:27.880 probably has more to do and more documents to back up. 0:17:28.359 --> 0:17:35.639 Is a month called eosturro Manath believes how you say it, 0:17:35.760 --> 0:17:38.080 I'm going to butcher these things. They're not English, but 0:17:38.119 --> 0:17:42.600 at something which is Easter month. It's the month that 0:17:42.720 --> 0:17:46.080 has the holiday Easter, which is the celebration of the Passover. 0:17:46.880 --> 0:17:49.640 So it was I don't know where because they kind 0:17:49.640 --> 0:17:51.679 of sounded like something else, so they oh, yeah, this 0:17:51.800 --> 0:17:53.400 is what it was from. And a lot of people 0:17:53.600 --> 0:17:54.240 just taking that. 0:17:54.440 --> 0:17:56.760 And you're getting this from apology at Canada, which is 0:17:57.160 --> 0:17:58.120 which is a good source. 0:17:58.640 --> 0:18:02.280 Wes huff he I can't dig any deeper than he could, 0:18:02.880 --> 0:18:04.920 and he does this for a living all the time, 0:18:05.280 --> 0:18:09.160 and I'm just I'm gonna I'm gonna study what he's 0:18:09.160 --> 0:18:10.760 been studying and then I'm gonna work on the workout 0:18:10.760 --> 0:18:13.160 that he's been working out. That he's changed his name 0:18:13.200 --> 0:18:19.080 to Wes buff No. But anyway, he uh, but he uh. 0:18:19.200 --> 0:18:21.399 He dove into all this to find out, Okay, this 0:18:21.480 --> 0:18:24.600 is what people are saying that it's coming from. Let's 0:18:24.640 --> 0:18:27.840 find some let's find some proof. And every time he 0:18:27.880 --> 0:18:31.639 got to the end there was very little, if any proof, 0:18:31.720 --> 0:18:33.639 and a lot of it was just a sound like, 0:18:34.280 --> 0:18:36.080 well it kind of sounds like this, So, yes, that's 0:18:36.119 --> 0:18:39.000 what it is. It's this goddess of springtime. That's what 0:18:39.000 --> 0:18:41.560 it is. And he's like, that's not where it just 0:18:41.600 --> 0:18:42.960 happens to be in spring. 0:18:42.880 --> 0:18:45.480 Which is interesting because the Puritans thought it all was. 0:18:45.760 --> 0:18:45.960 Yeah. 0:18:46.200 --> 0:18:48.440 Now that doesn't mean the Puritans were right about. 0:18:48.160 --> 0:18:52.159 You, which I understand wanting to stay it's it's, you know, 0:18:52.280 --> 0:18:55.879 having the the appearance of sin, yeah, you know, to 0:18:55.960 --> 0:18:58.920 have any so let's get away from it. Let's you know. Yeah, 0:18:59.080 --> 0:19:00.840 And I can understand and why they would want to 0:19:00.840 --> 0:19:01.000 do that. 0:19:01.040 --> 0:19:03.400 And they were in the sixteenth century, so they didn't 0:19:03.440 --> 0:19:06.520 know any more than we do. They were just as 0:19:06.560 --> 0:19:10.280 far removed from the early Church, you know, over one 0:19:10.320 --> 0:19:13.600 thousand years removed from the early Church, right, so they 0:19:13.600 --> 0:19:15.800 weren't any better off. It sometimes that we look back 0:19:15.840 --> 0:19:17.719 on the Puritans and think they were closer to all 0:19:17.760 --> 0:19:18.119 this stuff. 0:19:18.720 --> 0:19:22.000 In fact, we are probably closer because of all the digging, yes, 0:19:22.359 --> 0:19:24.359 and all the backgrafs. We've been fine in this. I 0:19:24.359 --> 0:19:27.080 mean we got to see a lot of the artifacts 0:19:27.160 --> 0:19:30.959 firsthand when we went to Israel and see where they what. 0:19:31.359 --> 0:19:34.199 You know, just fifteen years before we got there was 0:19:34.280 --> 0:19:36.560 just a patch of land. And you know since that 0:19:36.640 --> 0:19:38.560 time to when we got there, they had dug down 0:19:39.080 --> 0:19:41.720 six ten twelve feet and found a bunch of artifacts 0:19:41.720 --> 0:19:43.160 that none of the Puritans had. 0:19:43.200 --> 0:19:45.000 Right, you and I have seen the pool of Bethesda 0:19:45.119 --> 0:19:49.280 John five with our own eyes, something the Puritans never saw. 0:19:49.520 --> 0:19:52.600 And God blessed the Puritans. Like I said, I can't 0:19:52.640 --> 0:19:56.080 say enough about how much I love Puritan theology and 0:19:56.200 --> 0:19:58.480 reading their writings, But they never saw the pool of 0:19:58.480 --> 0:20:01.560 Bethesda with their own eyes. We have an interesting perspective now, 0:20:01.640 --> 0:20:02.080 very much so. 0:20:02.119 --> 0:20:04.560 And you don't know what you don't know. Yeah, you know, 0:20:04.600 --> 0:20:05.960 if you haven't seen it, you have it, and you 0:20:05.960 --> 0:20:08.480 haven't studied it, and you haven't dug which we've now 0:20:08.560 --> 0:20:12.240 had time to do. It does help us understand a 0:20:12.240 --> 0:20:14.880 little bit more, which I would say I commend them 0:20:14.920 --> 0:20:18.040 even more. I just want to stay I just want 0:20:18.040 --> 0:20:20.920 to stay pure. I just want to get closer and 0:20:20.520 --> 0:20:23.400 if it smells or looks like or sounds like sin, 0:20:23.960 --> 0:20:24.800 I want away from it. 0:20:24.920 --> 0:20:26.960 Yes, and that's great way to sum up their ideas. 0:20:27.040 --> 0:20:28.960 Yeah, if you want to get a hold of me 0:20:29.000 --> 0:20:32.920 for any reason, go to cameo dot com slash granger Smith. 0:20:32.960 --> 0:20:35.520 It's a great way to get someone a gift that 0:20:35.600 --> 0:20:38.320 you don't know what to get. 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