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Speaker 1: Maybe it's that Easter. The question is should Christians celebrate Easter?

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Speaker 2: I'm going to start with, do you think because this

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Speaker 2: is in the last fifty years, that question has asked

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Speaker 2: more now than it ever has been. I'm not talking

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Speaker 2: that question has resurfaced. Who do you think is the

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Speaker 2: louder voice right now on if Christians should celebrate Easter?

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Speaker 2: And I say it that specific way, I'm not talking

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Speaker 2: about resurrection Sunday. I'm talking about the word Easter. Should

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Speaker 2: celebrate it in the way that well, there's ways that

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Speaker 2: we could celebrate it, you know, there's like levels of celebration.

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Speaker 2: We'll talk about that. True, But who do you think

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Speaker 2: is a louder voice? The people against what we're saying

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Speaker 2: are the people for it?

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Speaker 3: You mean, against celebrating Easter? Yes, yeah, against I think right,

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Speaker 3: I think just because the question is that that's the

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Speaker 3: louder voice. The question is should you celebrate Easter? That

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Speaker 3: means that everybody's going, well, I don't know, should we

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Speaker 3: celebrates Let's talk about that And that's and that's the

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Speaker 3: louder one right now, yea, yeah, and I think it

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Speaker 3: goes in waves. Yeah, and I'm not sure that it's

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Speaker 3: one time over last fifty years. I've heard several times,

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Speaker 3: but it's probably the loudest right now.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So growing up, do you celebrate Easter?

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Speaker 3: Well? Yeah, And I thought, honestly as a kid, it

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Speaker 3: was the most Jesus holiday that we celebrated.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, I mean the.

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Speaker 2: Yes speak like just thinking about the what the holiday means.

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Speaker 2: The resurrection is, the is the hinge of the of

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Speaker 2: all humanity. The birth of Christ is only pointing towards that. Sure,

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Speaker 2: and the birth is one instance. He had his birthday

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Speaker 2: and it was over. That's Christmas, right, And then with

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Speaker 2: Easter you have it. Depending on what faith.

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Speaker 3: You are, you may have been celebrating for the last

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Speaker 3: month and half not eating certain things or giving something

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Speaker 3: up with lint, and then on Fridays going to McDonald's

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Speaker 3: and having your fish sandwiches and what have you, and

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Speaker 3: then doing a good Friday something and then doing a Sunday.

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Speaker 3: So that's why I say I think it was the

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Speaker 3: most centered in the word than any other holiday we celebrated,

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Speaker 3: especially including Christmas.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, even if you look at the creation of the universe,

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Speaker 2: it was always pointing toward the resurrection of the God Man,

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Speaker 2: the Christ, the Messiah, who would come to save the

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Speaker 2: world for those that look to him for forgiveness. So

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Speaker 2: every miracle, every god movement, including the birth of Christ

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Speaker 2: on Christmas, was always pointing towards this, this, this celebration.

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Speaker 2: So when I just say it that way, you think,

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Speaker 2: why wouldn't we celebrate that?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, of course.

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Speaker 2: And the quick answer before we get into our stuff,

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Speaker 2: and I guess the outline of this will be, well,

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Speaker 2: we'll talk about this, We'll go back and forth on

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Speaker 2: on some history. We'll talk about the how accurate that

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Speaker 2: and we'll then we'll end, we'll end with our opinions,

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Speaker 2: which I don't know what yours is.

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Speaker 1: You know what mine is.

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Speaker 2: So so we'll start with this.

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Speaker 1: There are.

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Speaker 2: I guess there are, like you said, it comes in waves,

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Speaker 2: and there are many people that would say we should

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Speaker 2: celebrate the resurrection every Sunday.

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Speaker 1: Right, Well, no, we should celebrate it every day. We

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Speaker 1: shouldn't say Sunday.

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Speaker 2: I just in terms of the gathering of the people,

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Speaker 2: we should we should celebrate it every day. Seventh Day

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Speaker 2: Adventists will be like, you should celebrate on Saturdays. But

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Speaker 2: be happy to walk through that as well, which is

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Speaker 2: another good question. But should we celebrate the resurrection every day?

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Speaker 1: Start with that?

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Speaker 3: Yes, of course, yes, of course, without question.

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Speaker 2: Easy, that's an easy I think we made the easy argument.

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Speaker 2: The whole world is centered around that. Did you get

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Speaker 2: out of bed? Did he leave the grave?

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Speaker 3: That's it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he got out of bed, he left the grave.

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Speaker 3: Let's let's celebrate.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So tell me about your your Easter growing up.

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Speaker 3: Easter growing up, and it's funny still today my mom

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Speaker 3: a chocolate bunny because she always did. That was something,

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Speaker 3: the world we're in right now. Yeah, But Uh, yeah,

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Speaker 3: that was That's probably the most memorable. Well, of course,

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Speaker 3: was called Good Friday when Jesus died. And two was

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Speaker 3: that was probably the first time I ever wore a suit.

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Speaker 3: It's kind of just just things I'm pulling out that

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Speaker 3: I remember as a kid. You know, I get a

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Speaker 1: Right, this is Oklahoma.

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Speaker 3: This is Oklahoma. Yeah, southern in Oklahoma. And uh but yeah,

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Speaker 3: I mean we walking distance to our Methodist church, and

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Speaker 3: was very very close. In fact, I was just back

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Speaker 3: But yeah, that's what we did. We always did the

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Speaker 3: Easter dying on I guess dying the Easter eggs on Saturday,

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Speaker 3: a chocolate bunny. It's true. Yeah, how about you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's surprisingly similar in a lot of ways. My

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Speaker 2: we would celebrate Easter with them, my grandma and grandpa.

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Speaker 3: That was their holiday with the family.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't know how it got a

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Speaker 1: I loved it.

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Speaker 2: In fact, my grandpa, he's the one that flew the

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Speaker 2: And so we got together with them, and they lived

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Speaker 2: And so they ended up. Grandpa built a house I

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Speaker 2: And we would come together from all the different parts

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Speaker 2: And my grandma, who I called Granta, she loved her

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Speaker 2: chocolate bunny and she because they were Episcopalian, I will

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Speaker 2: a little asterisk they were. It was it was a

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Speaker 2: I'll say as it used to be.

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Speaker 3: But she was.

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Speaker 2: She loved the Lord and was so faithful, and she

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Speaker 2: celebrated lint that the Episcopal Church celebrates lint. And she

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Speaker 2: would give up chocolate every year because she loved it.

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Speaker 2: on Easter Easter Sunday, she got her bunny, her chocolate bunny,

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Speaker 2: with her. And we had the little baskets we had,

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Speaker 2: similar to you. We would have the you know, hard

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Speaker 1: And we'd had a little basket.

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Speaker 3: Something practical along with this.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, something practical, like literally like a toothbrush and toothpaste

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Speaker 2: we would repeat back, he has risen indeed, but didn't

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Speaker 3: Did you do sunrise service? I forgot about that.

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Speaker 2: Yes, it wasn't consistent to do sunrise service, but we did.

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Speaker 1: It was something that we have done.

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Speaker 1: So that was that was my childhood Easter.

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Speaker 2: And you know, you get older and you know, you

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Speaker 1: We sound like we have. We had a similar upbringing, and.

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Speaker 2: Most people probably listening that were raised in the in

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Speaker 2: And then there's all kind of like vip packages ways

437
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Speaker 2: to get your truck in there. You could sit on

438
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Speaker 2: your tailgate of your own truck. It's going to be

439
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Speaker 2: a really, really good time. I'm so excited about this

440
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Speaker 2: once again. Eee Fest coming May ninth and tenth. Go

441
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Speaker 2: to ee dot com or ee fest dot com for

442
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Speaker 2: more details.

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Speaker 3: And eggs eggs on a big one. The big thing

444
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Speaker 3: is that this has to do with fertility and all

445
00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:57,320
Speaker 3: this kind of stuff. We'll think about this. It happened.

446
00:22:57,800 --> 00:23:00,399
Speaker 3: You know, you have lint going on before, and you

447
00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:04,960
Speaker 3: don't eat dairy milk or eggs. Your chickens are still

448
00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:07,679
Speaker 3: laying eggs. So they didn't want them to just rot,

449
00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:11,040
Speaker 3: so they boiled them and kept them because they last

450
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Speaker 3: longer when their hard boiled. And so when kids had

451
00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:15,960
Speaker 3: nothing to do, they would decorate them or do stuff

452
00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:18,919
Speaker 3: like that was also King ed At King Edward the

453
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Speaker 3: first he actually gave him as gifts because he put

454
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Speaker 3: gold on them, put gold leaf on him and gave

455
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Speaker 3: him two and decorated it. Well, this was in the

456
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Speaker 3: thirteenth century, I believe, so, way before Puritans. Yeah, yeah,

457
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Speaker 3: and so you know that's where they believe the decoration

458
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Speaker 3: of the egg actually came from. Was because of that.

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Speaker 1: That's even way before Reformation.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. The bunny, A lot of people think about that

461
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Speaker 3: being fertility as well. The first account of a bunny

462
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Speaker 3: being associated with Easter came in fifteen seventy two, long

463
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Speaker 3: after pagan traditions were set, and it had no correlation

464
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Speaker 3: between the two. In fact, it wasn't even a bunny.

465
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Speaker 3: The very first first one was a hare and did

466
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Speaker 3: and learned this and I didn't know this until I

467
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Speaker 3: learned this from Wes, was that a hair is not

468
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Speaker 3: a bunny. It can't mate with bunnies, and they're two

469
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Speaker 3: completely different things. I had no idea about that. And

470
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Speaker 3: the reason that most people, most experts, think that they're

471
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Speaker 3: associated with it is because it's a mascot for a

472
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Speaker 3: springtime animal. Now they actually I believe I'm quoting this correctly.

473
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Speaker 3: They they mate all year long. We just see more

474
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Speaker 3: of them in the springtime because they're out of the ground.

475
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Speaker 3: And that's why it looks like it just goes crazy

476
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Speaker 3: in fertility as I that they're like that all the time.

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Speaker 2: Are there connections to these pagan ideas? Are those legitimate connections?

478
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Speaker 3: From what he was saying, in what he was presenting,

479
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Speaker 3: what Wes was presenting, there was there was very little,

480
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Speaker 3: if any. The connection was very very loose, if there

481
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Speaker 3: was any connection at all, and as far as based

482
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Speaker 3: in fact, in findings of writings and instances where things

483
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Speaker 3: were tied together in history. Now, most everything that we

484
00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:05,960
Speaker 3: hear about today has happened in you know, since the

485
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Speaker 3: I don't know, eighteen hundreds, seventeen eighteen hundreds, yeah, long past,

486
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Speaker 3: you know, any of the probably about the time that

487
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Speaker 3: people were putting stuff together. Puritans hear and see that

488
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Speaker 3: stuff and go, yeah, no, we don't want anything to

489
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Speaker 3: do with that, but actual facts. And on the back

490
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Speaker 3: he found very little, if any, especially, I mean with

491
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Speaker 3: all three of those, the three big things, the name,

492
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Speaker 3: the eggs, and the bunny. Especially, I thought the name

493
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Speaker 3: was the biggest thing, because that's what I've always heard, right,

494
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Speaker 3: Easter is actually a celebration of a pagan god exactly. Yea,

495
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Speaker 3: And it actually it was just because it was the

496
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Speaker 3: biggest part was the month. I think I wish I'd

497
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Speaker 3: quoted this better, but about the month and of how

498
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Speaker 3: it was I was correlated. That's when Easter always happened,

499
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Speaker 3: and Easter was the celebration of Passover, and it happened

500
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Speaker 3: to be the great explanation was the fourth of July,

501
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Speaker 3: and Independence Day fourth of July has nothing to do

502
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Speaker 3: with the celebration. It's just the month that Independence days.

503
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Speaker 1: Oh wow? Did you get that from apology a kind?

504
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Speaker 1: Oh wow?

505
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Speaker 3: And just like so Easter has nothing to do with Easter,

506
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Speaker 3: that has to do with when it's happening in the

507
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Speaker 3: month Estero Manatha.

508
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Speaker 2: Oh that's that's helpful. And then eggs and bunnies are

509
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Speaker 2: the other thing. And I think you did a pretty

510
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Speaker 2: good job, you know, I think you.

511
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Speaker 3: Did a good job.

512
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you look at this, you go, you go, Easter,

513
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Speaker 2: pagan goddess name eggs fertility, and then the bunnies the

514
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Speaker 2: the little creators of the fertility fertility. So I can

515
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Speaker 2: see how you put that distraction, you know, Yeah, you

516
00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:46,440
Speaker 2: put it together and you add on top of that

517
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Speaker 2: it becoming commercial, making a lot of money.

518
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Speaker 3: And the big focus that, yeah, absolutely, the big focus

519
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Speaker 3: at the end of that with Wes was that now,

520
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Speaker 3: don't mistake everything you do during this celebration should all

521
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Speaker 3: point to the death and resurrection of Christ. But know

522
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:08,639
Speaker 3: that what we have in our celebration right now isn't

523
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Speaker 3: pulling holistically, is not pulling pagan traditions and celebrations into Passover.

524
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Speaker 3: It's just things that we've that we put in along

525
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Speaker 3: the way.

526
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just it's it's just kind of part of

527
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Speaker 1: the furniture.

528
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Speaker 3: In the room, in the month, it's in the time

529
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Speaker 3: of year, it's end. Hey, let's oh, we're gonna do

530
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Speaker 3: this and we're going to celebrate the Passover. Let's throw

531
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Speaker 3: some pastels in. Hey, let's throw some you know what's Oh,

532
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Speaker 3: there's bunnies everywhere. Let's throw some bunnies.

533
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Speaker 1: In Christmas and snow white Christmas bingo.

534
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Speaker 2: Absolutely, I don't think anyone looks at snow and goes

535
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Speaker 2: Snow's taken away from the person of Christ.

536
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Speaker 3: Jingle bells on horses that are sleds.

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Speaker 2: You know, I'm gonna why why we're sitting here. I

538
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Speaker 2: thought about something that I want to look at in

539
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Speaker 2: the Bible, Exodus twelve, it is the passover. So the

540
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Speaker 2: Lord said to Moses and Aaron in the land of Egypt,

541
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Speaker 2: this month shall be for you the beginning of months,

542
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Speaker 2: which is what we talked about in the In the

543
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Speaker 2: Puritan calendar, they wanted to make March the first month, right,

544
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Speaker 2: So what's happening in in this story in Exodus twelve.

545
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Speaker 2: The backstory is you probably know, people listening probably remember

546
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Speaker 2: that the people of Israel are enslaved to the Egyptians

547
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Speaker 2: for about four hundred years, and their cries go up

548
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Speaker 2: to heaven and the Lord sinds a redeemer to redeem

549
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Speaker 2: them and take them to the Promised Land, which is

550
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Speaker 2: it's a typology of Christ. It's Moses, who the Lord

551
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Speaker 2: sins is a type of Christ, a type of Savior.

552
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Speaker 2: He's he is only pointing towards the Great Savior capital

553
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Speaker 2: s but he is a type. And the Bible comes

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Speaker 2: up with these types constantly. They're like they're like echoes

555
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Speaker 2: of the Great the Great noise, They're like shadows of

556
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Speaker 2: the Great figure. And Moses is sent as the redeemer

557
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Speaker 2: of the people. He goes to Egypt and he demands

558
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Speaker 2: from Pharaoh, let my people go. Pharaoh says no. Every

559
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Speaker 2: time he says no, Moses provides a sign from God

560
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Speaker 2: to convince him, and every time he says no. The

561
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Speaker 2: final sign that God gives Moses to give Pharaoh is

562
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Speaker 2: if he says no, you tell him, I will kill

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Speaker 2: all the firstborn of Egypt indiscriminately, and even animals, firstborn sons, right, yes,

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Speaker 2: firstborn males, including the animals.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, including the people of Israel, everybody. I'm gonna kill

566
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Speaker 1: them all if he doesn't let them. And as predicted,

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Speaker 1: Pharaoh says no.

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Speaker 2: So this is what happens. It picks over, picks up

569
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Speaker 2: in Exodus twelve and God tells Moses, tell all the

570
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Speaker 2: congregation of Israel that on the tenth day of this month,

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Speaker 2: every man shall take a lamb according to their father's houses.

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Speaker 2: A lamb for a household, And if the household is

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Speaker 2: too small for a lamb, then he and his nearest

574
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Speaker 2: neighbor take according to the number of persons, according to

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Speaker 2: what each of you can eat shall make that shall

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Speaker 2: count for your lamb. Your lamb shall be without blemish

577
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Speaker 2: a male a year old, and you shall take it

578
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Speaker 2: from the sheep or from the goats, and you shall

579
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Speaker 2: keep it until the fourteenth day of the month. And

580
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Speaker 2: then the whole congregation of Israel shall kill their lambs

581
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Speaker 2: at twilight. Then they shall take some of the blood

582
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Speaker 2: and put it on two door posts and on the lintel,

583
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Speaker 2: that's the top part of the houses in which they

584
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Speaker 2: eat it. And they shall eat the flesh that night,

585
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Speaker 2: roasted on the fire with unleathered bread and bitter herbs.

586
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Speaker 2: They shall eat it. He's telling them to take a lamb,

587
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Speaker 2: and he says, and eat it in haste. It is

588
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Speaker 2: the Lord's passover, for I will pass through the land

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Speaker 2: of Egypt that night, and I will strike all the

590
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Speaker 2: first born in the land of Egypt, both man and beast,

591
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Speaker 2: and all the gods of Egypt, the lower case ge

592
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Speaker 2: gods of Egypt. I will execute judgments. I am the Lord.

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Speaker 2: The blood shall be assigned for you on the houses

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Speaker 2: where you are. When I see the blood, I will

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Speaker 2: pass over you, and no play will befall you to

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Speaker 2: destroy you when I strike the land of Egypt. And

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Speaker 2: this day shall be a memorial day, and you shall

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Speaker 2: keep it as a feast to the Lord throughout your

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Speaker 2: generations as a statute forever. You shall keep it as

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Speaker 2: a feast. And then he goes on to say, therefore,

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Speaker 2: you shall observe this day throughout your generations as a

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Speaker 2: statute forever. That's verse seventeen. And then he goes on

603
00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:57,040
Speaker 2: and he's he's describing the day again, and then verse

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Speaker 2: twenty one. Then Moses called all the elders of Israel

605
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Speaker 2: and said it them, go and select lambs for yourselves

606
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Speaker 2: according to your clans, and kill the passover lamb. Take

607
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Speaker 2: a bunch of his hoop and dip it in the

608
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Speaker 2: blood that's in the basin, and touch the lentil and

609
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:10,160
Speaker 2: the two door posts with the blood that's in the basin.

610
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Speaker 2: None of you shall go out of the door of

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Speaker 2: his house until the morning, for the Lord will pass

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Speaker 2: through to strike the Egyptians. And when he sees the

613
00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:19,760
Speaker 2: blood on the lntil and on the two door posts,

614
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Speaker 2: the Lord will pass over the door and will not

615
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Speaker 2: allow the destroyer terrifying word to enter your houses to

616
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Speaker 2: strike you. You shall observe this right as a statute

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Speaker 2: for you and for your sons forever. And when you

618
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Speaker 2: come to the land that the Lord will give you

619
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Speaker 2: from the Redeemer, as the Redeemer takes you to the

620
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Speaker 2: New Land. As he has promised, you shall keep this service.

621
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Speaker 2: And when your children say to you, what do you

622
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 2: mean by this service, you shall say, it is the

623
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Speaker 2: sacrifice of the Lord's passover. For he passed over the

624
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Speaker 2: houses of the people of Israel in Egypt when he

625
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Speaker 2: struck the Egyptians, but spared our houses, and the people

626
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Speaker 2: bowed their heads forever.

627
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Speaker 3: Wow.

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Speaker 1: And so.

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Speaker 2: It happened, as he said, the people of Israel were

630
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Speaker 2: spared not because they were better, not because they were

631
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Speaker 2: more righteous, not because they deserved it, not because they

632
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Speaker 2: were worthy, but because they were covered by the blood

633
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Speaker 2: of the flawless Lamb.

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Speaker 3: Yep.

635
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Speaker 2: That all of that is pointing towards what happened so

636
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Speaker 2: many years later, fifteen hundred years later, when the Christ

637
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Speaker 2: came to Jerusalem and goes up on the mountain, the

638
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Speaker 2: same mountain where Abraham was told to sacrifice his son Isaac,

639
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Speaker 2: and the Angel the Lord stopped him and saw it,

640
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Speaker 2: And instead of sacrificing his own son, he looks and

641
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Speaker 2: he sees a ram caught in the thicket. And the

642
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:04,080
Speaker 2: Lord said that used that that's your lamb. And on

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Speaker 2: that day, fifteen hundred years later, on Calvary, the perfect,

644
00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:17,400
Speaker 2: spotless Lamb went onto an althar of a cross and

645
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Speaker 2: had nails driven into his hands. The perfect Lamb capital

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Speaker 2: l And that happened on Passover and the same time

647
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Speaker 2: when the lambs were being sacrificed in the temple just

648
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Speaker 2: down the hill from them. Now, this ram, this lamb,

649
00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:36,759
Speaker 2: wasn't caught in a thicket. It was caught in a

650
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Speaker 2: crown of thorns.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And as he Jesus laid out for the forgiveness the sin,

653
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Speaker 2: to forgive the sins of the of his people, those

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Speaker 2: who looked to him and turned from their sin and

655
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Speaker 2: looked to him, that would be forgiven to those people.

656
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Speaker 2: The blood of the Son of God covers them, and

657
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Speaker 2: the Lord the Destroyer will pass over them.

658
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Speaker 1: And that is a that is.

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Speaker 2: A an observance that we still look to today. When

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Speaker 2: our kids ask us, why why are we forgiven? Why

661
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:20,920
Speaker 2: why do we deserve it? We say we don't. But

662
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Speaker 2: we're covered by the blood of the spotless Lamb. And

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Speaker 2: the Lord will pass over us. And the Lord will

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Speaker 2: love us and adopt us, and ransom us and redeem

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Speaker 2: us and restore us and forgive us. And that is

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Speaker 2: what we celebrate on Resurrection Sunday.

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Speaker 3: I don't call it that.

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Speaker 2: Why I'm saying that, just so that we don't be

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Speaker 2: distracted by the main topic here of talking about Easter,

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Speaker 2: which I think it's a great argument.

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Speaker 1: The fourth of July, I think is a great that's

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Speaker 1: a great argument.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but I do like that. I like the name

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Speaker 3: and it because it for me, I think it helps

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Speaker 3: me separate in my head that everybody, believers and unbelievers

676
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Speaker 3: celebrate Easter. Yeah, believers celebrate resurrections. Yeah, that's a great point.

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Speaker 2: And so to the Puritans, oh man, I wouldn't dare.

678
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Speaker 2: I wouldn't dare go against what the Puritans taught and

679
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Speaker 2: I agree talked about it. I agree to two thousand

680
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Speaker 2: percent with the Puritans that said we should celebrate the

681
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Speaker 2: resurrection every single day. But there is something around Passover

682
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Speaker 2: every year as the spring comes and the flowers bloom,

683
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Speaker 2: and we think there was a man that became the

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Speaker 2: sacrificial lamb for us, that was put on an altar,

685
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Speaker 2: and the sacrificial system was satisfied once and for all,

686
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Speaker 2: as God was completely satisfied with his own son, because

687
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Speaker 2: unlike Abraham, who his son was saved, his only son

688
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Speaker 2: was saved in the last minute. God did not spare

689
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Speaker 2: his only son, but instead poured his wrath on him

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Speaker 2: so that we might be saved.

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Speaker 3: And but Moses was willing to Yeah, I think that's

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Speaker 3: what God was looking for in his heart. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: am I wrong on that?

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Speaker 2: You know?

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Speaker 3: I think I remember Isaac asking, but we don't. We

696
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Speaker 3: don't have anything to sacrifice. And he said, God will provide.

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Speaker 2: God will provide the lamb my son. That's what Abraham

698
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Speaker 2: told him. God will provide the lamb my son.

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Speaker 1: And he did. And on that same mount Mariah.

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Speaker 2: Oh my Gosh, him the whole time, the whole time

701
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Speaker 2: those guests, It just told you you've met your daily limit.

702
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Speaker 1: I think he must have been recorded, so that's great.

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Speaker 3: He got some facts today.

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Speaker 1: So I think I think.

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Speaker 2: As we think about all that, I don't know how

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Speaker 2: long we have, what long we've been doing. I mean

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Speaker 2: I haven't been I didn't see when we started. But

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Speaker 2: I don't think it's wrong to observe a day of

709
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Speaker 2: the Great Passover. I'm not talking about the Jewish festival.

710
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Speaker 2: I'm talking about observing the Forever Statute of the Lamb.

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Speaker 2: Can I read you one more thing?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, it's it's it was, it's it's fun to complete

714
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Speaker 2: this story with John five.

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Speaker 1: Why not John five?

716
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Speaker 2: Revelation five written by John. John has a revelation. It's

717
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Speaker 2: the last book of the Bible. And he has a

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Speaker 2: revelation and he's taken to heaven and he's taken.

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Speaker 1: Into a great room.

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Speaker 2: There's angels, and there's elder kings, and there's a throne,

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Speaker 2: and God almighty's on the throne. And this is right

722
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Speaker 2: before this is in Revelation four. It's when you hear

723
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Speaker 2: the angels saying Holy, Holy, Holy, and and John has

724
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Speaker 2: taken it all in and he's in this throne room.

725
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Speaker 2: And Revelation five begins here. It says, then I talk

726
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Speaker 2: about John said, I saw in the right hand of him,

727
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Speaker 2: who was seated on the throne a scroll written within

728
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Speaker 2: and on the back, sealed with seven seals, like this scroll.

729
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Speaker 2: This is the this is the great book. It's so important,

730
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Speaker 2: it's so secret, it's so holy that it's not sealed once,

731
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Speaker 2: but it's sealed seven times. Right, And he says, and

732
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Speaker 2: I saw a mighty angel proclaiming with a loud voice.

733
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Speaker 1: Who is worthy to open the scroll and break its seals?

734
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Speaker 1: Can you imagine John's excited, like you're in this room

735
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Speaker 1: and all you know, there's all these angels and he's

736
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Speaker 1: kind of a fly on the wall looking around. Who's worthy?

737
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Speaker 2: Oh, this is going to be incredible. Who is worthy

738
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Speaker 2: to open this? And then verse three and no one

739
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Speaker 2: in heaven or on earth or under the earth was

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Speaker 2: able to open the scroll or to look at it.

741
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Speaker 2: And John saying that there was no one, he begins

742
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Speaker 2: to cry, just his heartbroken with sorrow because the Great

743
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Speaker 2: Redeemer is not to be found, you know, And so

744
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Speaker 2: it says he's not. He's not only crying, but in

745
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Speaker 2: verse four, and I began to weep loudly because no

746
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Speaker 2: one was found worthy to open the scroll or to

747
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Speaker 2: look at or to look into it.

748
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Speaker 1: And one of the elders said to me, weep no more.

749
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Speaker 2: Behold the lion of the tribe of Judah, the root

750
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Speaker 2: of David, has conquered so that he could open the

751
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Speaker 2: scroll and it's seven seals. And John probably just gets

752
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Speaker 2: so excited, like oh.

753
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Speaker 4: A lie, yeah, yes, and he looks to the you know,

754
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Speaker 4: he looks to the entrance of the throne room, and

755
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:07,640
Speaker 4: there's gonna be this big lion that's gonna come through

756
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:11,640
Speaker 4: and conquer and take this scroll Victory, and take it

757
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Speaker 4: in his mouth and rip it up, rip open the

758
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Speaker 4: seven seals, and there's the book, you know, the.

759
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Speaker 1: Secret Holy Book. Because he's worthy. And he looks.

760
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Speaker 3: That's not what he sees. Nope.

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Speaker 1: Verse six.

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Speaker 2: And between the throne and the four living creatures, and

763
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Speaker 2: among the elders, I saw a lamb standing as though

764
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Speaker 2: it had been slain.

765
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Speaker 3: And he walks up.

766
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Speaker 2: This lamb walks up, and he went and he took

767
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Speaker 2: the scroll from the right hand of him who was

768
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Speaker 2: seated on the throne.

769
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Speaker 1: And when he had taken the.

770
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Speaker 2: Scroll, the four living creatures and the twenty four elders

771
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Speaker 2: fell down before the lamb. He's holding a harp and

772
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Speaker 2: golden bowls full of incense, which are the prayers of

773
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Speaker 2: the saints. And they sang a new song, a new

774
00:41:57,560 --> 00:42:00,480
Speaker 2: song that said, worthy, are you to take the scroll

775
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:03,960
Speaker 2: to open its seals? For you were slain, and by

776
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 2: your blood you ransomed people for God from every tribe

777
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:10,600
Speaker 2: and language and people and nation, and you have made

778
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:12,960
Speaker 2: them a kingdom and priest to our God, and they

779
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Speaker 2: shall reign on the earth. And that was the blood

780
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Speaker 2: that marked the doorway, that if you're in there, you're

781
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Speaker 2: covered by that blood. God passes over Verse eleven. Then

782
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Speaker 2: I looked, and I heard around the throne and the

783
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:28,160
Speaker 2: living creatures and the elders, the voice of many angels,

784
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:31,680
Speaker 2: numbering myriads and myriads, and thousands and thousands, saying with

785
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:35,480
Speaker 2: a loud voice, worthy is the Lamb who was slain

786
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Speaker 2: to receive power and wealth and wisdom and might and

787
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:42,920
Speaker 2: honor and glory and blessing. And every creature in Earth,

788
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:45,799
Speaker 2: in heaven, and on earth, and under the earth, and

789
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:48,879
Speaker 2: in the sea, and all of them saying to him

790
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:51,279
Speaker 2: who sits on the throne, and to the Lamb, be

791
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:54,439
Speaker 2: blessing in honor and glory and might, forever and ever.

792
00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:59,320
Speaker 2: And the four limbing creatures said amen. And the elders

793
00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:06,520
Speaker 2: fell down and worshiped man, the same one, the same Lamb,

794
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:12,840
Speaker 2: the Lamb. He's the Lamb. Only those covered by the blood.

795
00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:19,320
Speaker 2: That's what we celebrate yep on Resurrection Sunday. And anything

796
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:22,120
Speaker 2: else that might distract from that, whether it's eggs or

797
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:25,400
Speaker 2: bunnies or even the name Easter if that's going to distract,

798
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:28,920
Speaker 2: you get away from it. Yeah, And you tell your kids,

799
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:31,560
Speaker 2: just like in Exodus twelve, when they ask why do

800
00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:35,319
Speaker 2: we celebrate this, you tell them because God passed over

801
00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:37,319
Speaker 2: us those covered.

802
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:37,919
Speaker 1: By the blood of the Lamb.

803
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:47,120
Speaker 2: And if you can, if you can do an Easter

804
00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:50,640
Speaker 2: egg hunt and it shows other kids in your neighborhood

805
00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:54,280
Speaker 2: back towards that, if you could talk about a chocolate

806
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:58,919
Speaker 2: Easter bunny, but it points to everyone towards the blood

807
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:02,040
Speaker 2: of the Lamb, if you could, if.

808
00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:03,120
Speaker 3: You break your lint with.

809
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:08,640
Speaker 2: If it always points backs to the cross, then by

810
00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:12,200
Speaker 2: all means do it. If it becomes a distraction, then don't.

811
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Speaker 3: Get rid of it. Yeah, agreed, doesn't have to be pagan.

812
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:19,560
Speaker 3: It could just be a distraction. Yeah, that's the biggest,

813
00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:21,560
Speaker 3: biggest thing I got out of.

814
00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:23,279
Speaker 1: I think you would say the same thing.

815
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:25,319
Speaker 2: We would echo Joshua and say, but as for me

816
00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:27,320
Speaker 2: and my house, yeah, serve the Lord.

817
00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:28,439
Speaker 3: Yeah.

818
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:31,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is a good talk.

819
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:37,919
Speaker 3: That's great talk. I'm ready for Thanksgiving. I'm not gonna

820
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:40,000
Speaker 3: mess the forth to July right now, we'll leave that

821
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Speaker 3: one alone.

822
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:44,080
Speaker 1: None of this this is good. We should do this

823
00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:45,480
Speaker 1: more often because we were just.

824
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Speaker 2: We didn't really have anything planned and so we just talk.

825
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:51,719
Speaker 2: Even the scripture, it's kind of nice sometimes to go,

826
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:52,719
Speaker 2: you know what, let's go here.

827
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Speaker 3: Well, and it's what the Lord brings to your heart

828
00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:56,640
Speaker 3: in the moment. Yeah like that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's beautiful all right.

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Speaker 3: Appreciate your YouTube.

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Speaker 1: Happy Easter.

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