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Speaker 2: a little bit later on Former college coach now an

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Speaker 2: analyst for CBS Sports, Rick Neuheisel on what happened this

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Speaker 2: weekend in college and what he thinks will happen this

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Speaker 2: operator Tyler sitting by. He'll take your phone calls in

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Speaker 2: no particular order. Today, I think America, maybe the world

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Speaker 2: was rooting for Tommy Fleetwood. Part of me he wanted

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Speaker 2: to see Scotty Scheffler put a little pressure on him.

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Speaker 2: But we've seen what happened. When there's been pressure on

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Speaker 2: Tommy Fleetwood, it usually doesn't end well. But he finally

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Speaker 2: got his first PGA win and it's a big one.

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Speaker 2: And I was talking to Charles Barkley yesterday afternoon, so

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Speaker 2: Charles called me about something playing golf, and I said,

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Speaker 2: aren't you playing golf?

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Speaker 3: Now?

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Speaker 2: He goes, I'm watching Tommy Fleetwood. I put a lot

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Speaker 2: of money on Tommy Fleetwood. He better win it said, okay,

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Speaker 2: well you might get one right here. It looks like

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Speaker 2: he's going to hold on. But Fleetwood it was fun

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Speaker 2: to see because the expectations always been there when you

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Speaker 2: and that's what's tough. When you have the potential, you

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Speaker 2: have the expectation. It's not like he comes out of

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Speaker 2: no People have been waiting for him to come, you know,

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Speaker 2: to the forefront. And he did that yesterday and did

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Speaker 2: so in dramatic fashion and got his first win, and

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Speaker 2: that's a big one. College football is underway. I Aoway

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Speaker 2: stayed Hawaii UNLV got victories there. NFL preseason is over

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Speaker 2: and cuts our underway. As we speak, we'll come up

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Speaker 2: with the pole question. And by the way, when you

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Speaker 2: know we talk about preseason, it's officially behind us now,

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Speaker 2: but the real action is ready to begin. And keep

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Speaker 2: this in mind. Don't take any of it too seriously

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Speaker 2: because we fall into this trap every preseason. Caleb Williams

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Speaker 2: was supposed to light up the NFL. Marvin Harrison Junior

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Speaker 2: was going to be a Jamar Chase like rookie Kyron

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Speaker 2: be a punt returner. He ended up getting fourteen hundred

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Speaker 2: The point is really simple with preseason, it's about a value,

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Speaker 2: not prophecy. And it feels like we want to project

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Speaker 2: now we got it all figured out.

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Speaker 4: Man Jackson Darton, he should be starting.

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Speaker 2: Uh, Dylan Gabriel looks great, Maybe he should be the

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Speaker 2: starter in Cleveland. We want to be the first to

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Speaker 2: tell you something, and that's why I always say just

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Speaker 2: to use caution because The real story starts now on

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Speaker 2: how good these guys are, how good these teams are.

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Speaker 2: And I watched a lot of preseason football the last

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Speaker 2: Shador Sanders, but I was watching him what happens with

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Speaker 2: And I'll talk to Rick Neuheisel about this later because

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Speaker 2: he played the position, coach the position in the NFL.

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Speaker 2: They these rookie quarterbacks tend to come in and they

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Speaker 2: They think they have more time because in college, you

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Speaker 2: In the NFL, they just don't stay open very long.

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Speaker 2: make a play, you have to take your losses, have

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Speaker 2: five times, got pulled from the game. Although I didn't

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Speaker 2: this to me, What if Kevin Stefanski wanted to see

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Speaker 2: how Shador Sanders would react to getting benched in the

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Speaker 4: So I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Once again, this was being speculated to me by a source,

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Speaker 2: what kind of mind games you're playing. He just holds

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Speaker 2: you saw that. You know, Caleb Williams got the run

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Speaker 2: the It's so quick and you must react. And he

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Speaker 2: watching Shador, he had a guy his first read a

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Speaker 2: couple of times didn't throw. Once you go from you know,

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Speaker 4: And that's what I saw.

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Speaker 2: That's what I see with these young quarterbacks and they

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Speaker 2: have to get rid of these bad habits. But when

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Speaker 2: your body facing the line of scrimmage because now the

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Speaker 2: they've got their hips pointed towards the offensive line. Well,

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Speaker 2: now you're not looking at the left side of the field.

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Speaker 2: And I saw that a couple of times. But Dylan

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Speaker 2: Gabriel has looked better than I think people are going

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Speaker 2: to give him credit for and I think Jackson Dark

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Speaker 2: has played really well. But I'm not surprised with Jackson Dark.

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Speaker 2: I thought he midway through the season. I said, I'm

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Speaker 2: getting a first round grade on this guy. And he's

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Speaker 2: played well, but I don't think he's ready to play

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Speaker 2: still gonna make the roster. It's we get caught up

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Speaker 2: in oh my gosh, I've got this figured out, and

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Speaker 2: so many times we don't. And that showed once again

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Speaker 2: this weekend, where you're watching somebody and you're saying, is

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Speaker 2: that guy good? He was good last week, not this week? Well,

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Speaker 2: are you playing against the first team defense? Are you

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Speaker 2: playing with the starters? There's a lot that goes into it,

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Speaker 2: and that's where I think we all want to go.

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Speaker 2: I got that situation figured out Seeton. What's pole question today?

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Speaker 2: We got a couple here from the to double D,

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Speaker 2: which is always a huge, huge tree on a Monday morning.

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Speaker 5: We could start with one real quick which is a

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Speaker 5: bigger problem. Slow play in golf, slow play in baseball.

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Speaker 4: Patrick, can't I just hit the freaking ball, Oh my goodness.

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Speaker 2: Just hit it, dude, uh, slow play. And I think

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Speaker 2: we've all been around somebody who plays very, very slow.

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Speaker 2: But you're a professional, like at some point you would think, hey,

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Speaker 2: I'm pretty locked in.

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Speaker 4: I know what I'm doing.

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Speaker 2: Not let me back away, let me get over it,

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Speaker 2: let me stand over it, let me let me let

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Speaker 2: me okay, I'm going to hit it. Oh, Pauly goes.

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Speaker 2: I thought, my my TV FROs. I'm watching Patrick cantlay

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Speaker 2: and I go, oh, damn, my TV FROs. It didn't

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Speaker 2: Patrick can't lay. Pull the trigger, nothing good happens. I

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Speaker 2: don't think when you wait that long when you're hitting

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Speaker 2: a golf shot, get up there, set up quick, remember Sergio. Oh,

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Speaker 2: and you've got to eventually get into a quicker rhythm.

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Speaker 2: You've done this millions of times. It's not like us

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Speaker 2: when we get out there, we're like, damn, I have

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Speaker 2: no idea where this is going. They have a general

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Speaker 2: idea where it's going. Pull the trigger?

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Speaker 4: What else? What else do you have?

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Speaker 3: Seaton?

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Speaker 5: Let me see here running through t o doves. Were

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Speaker 5: you rooting for Tommy Fleetwood yesterday?

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Speaker 2: Yes, of course, yeah, yeah, I was. Yeah, And this

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Speaker 2: is what There are a lot of things that I

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Speaker 2: really like about him starting with his blue eyes.

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Speaker 4: But you know, and he's got great hair too.

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Speaker 2: But also when he's lost, he's talked to the media,

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Speaker 2: he's met with the media, and I appreciate that. You know,

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Speaker 2: Rory is kind of scampered away and Colin Morikawwa. And

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Speaker 2: I think you owe it to the fans. Maybe not

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Speaker 2: They're rooting for you. I think you owe it to

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Speaker 2: the media or the fans. The media, we're the conduit

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Speaker 2: here and the are the ones who buy Callaway clubs

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Speaker 2: without them then you don't get those endorsements. And Tommy

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Speaker 2: and I think that is admirable. I've mentioned this before.

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Speaker 2: Bill Buckner, the ball goes through his legs and he

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Speaker 2: answered everybody's question after that World Series loss, one of

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Speaker 2: the worst moments in baseball history, and he answered every

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Speaker 2: Joe Carter Toronto won the World Series. Mitch Williams answered

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Speaker 2: everybody's question after that game, after that loss. These are

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Speaker 2: tough situations, but you get paid to be in tough situations,

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Speaker 2: and I think how you respond sometimes says a lot

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Speaker 2: about you. And I was rooting for Tommy because he

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Speaker 2: needed this. It's almost like Rory at a guy he

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Speaker 2: tripping over himself heading, you know, down the stretch in

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Speaker 2: the final couple of holes, and it was like, just

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Speaker 2: more of this pain, misery. And that's how I felt

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Speaker 2: with Tommy Fleetwood. Certain times I'm rooting for a situation

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Speaker 2: because it's right for that situation, and Tommy Fleetwood couldn't win,

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Speaker 2: that's what I loved it, you know, I said to Fritzi,

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Speaker 2: although Fritzie almost gave him the jinks, the DP show jinks,

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Speaker 2: he goes, what do you think I'm going to reach out?

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Speaker 2: And now the tournament's not over yet. So the fourteenth hole,

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Speaker 2: I get a text from Fritzie and Fritzy says, hey,

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Speaker 2: you want me to reach out.

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Speaker 4: To Tommy Fleetwood? And all of a sudden, I go

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Speaker 4: now and then Paul goes Jinks and I was pulling

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Speaker 4: for him.

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Speaker 1: I didn't want to be a Jigs, but to discuss

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Speaker 1: inviting him on the show five holes before it's over

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Speaker 4: Oh wait, they're teasable. That's how great they are. Dan,

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Speaker 2: Chris collins Worth Football Night in America, Sunday Night Football

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Speaker 4: Three time Pro Bowler Chris that's that.

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Speaker 2: We were playing Chris and Company Sunday Night Football. It'll

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Speaker 2: and seventeen seasons as an analyst on the primetime Howard

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Speaker 7: Well, that's a share sign.

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Speaker 4: Late in his life.

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Speaker 7: That was good, That was good. I had him at

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Speaker 7: That was That was great.

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Speaker 7: Before it was it was not yet.

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Speaker 7: So I want to be able to do that too.

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Speaker 7: do with him. Just het seventy percent. We got to

436
00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:07,159
Speaker 7: hit seven out of ten of these and that's really

437
00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:10,840
Speaker 7: hard to do. That means a lot of checking down

438
00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:12,800
Speaker 7: in the NFL, and that's where he's got to get to.

439
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Speaker 2: Are you preparing for Micah Parsons to prepare for the Eagles?

440
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Speaker 7: Of course? Of course, I mean are you watching the

441
00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:26,119
Speaker 7: Netflix thing on the Cowboys? Are you seeing any of that?

442
00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:29,040
Speaker 7: And of course the EMMITTT Smith thing. He held out

443
00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:31,600
Speaker 7: for the first two games. They lose the first two games.

444
00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:35,160
Speaker 7: Jerry's been down that road before. We've seen all this.

445
00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:36,840
Speaker 7: They want to be a show, they want to be

446
00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:41,360
Speaker 7: all these things. But the problem for Mike A is that,

447
00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:44,399
Speaker 7: you know, they really do control them for the next

448
00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:48,520
Speaker 7: three years. He's under contract, and he can be franchise

449
00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:52,000
Speaker 7: tagged the two years after that. So I don't know

450
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Speaker 7: what the contract was that he agreed to. It wasn't

451
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Speaker 7: a great concept to go in and sit down with

452
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Speaker 7: Jerry Jones and start talking about a contract. It's not

453
00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:07,800
Speaker 7: a great concept for the players' Association to allow NFL

454
00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:12,240
Speaker 7: players in the room to negotiate with NFL owners. Those

455
00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:15,840
Speaker 7: guys are trained killers, right, I mean that they are billionaires.

456
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Speaker 7: They know how to negotiate deals. So as an agent,

457
00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:24,760
Speaker 7: there is no way I'm letting Micah Parsons anywhere near

458
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Speaker 7: Jerry Jones. I don't even want to have a private

459
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Speaker 7: conversation on the field. I don't want any of that stuff.

460
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Speaker 7: So but once you do, and you know, man up.

461
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Speaker 7: He said he was willing to take less earlier, you know,

462
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Speaker 7: and you know, whatever it was in the offseason and

463
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Speaker 7: he goes, oh, I'd take less to play for the

464
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Speaker 7: Cowboys and all that, and Jerry took that and ran

465
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Speaker 7: with it, and whatever was said behind closed doors, Jerry

466
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Speaker 7: feels like he has a deal.

467
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Speaker 2: I know, we're obsessed with rankings, ranking our quarterbacks.

468
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Speaker 4: You know, where is Jalen Hurts? Is he a top ten?

469
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Speaker 2: I don't know where you I'm going against my own

470
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Speaker 2: philosophy of, you know, kind of acknowledging these lists. But

471
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Speaker 2: I am curious, since you do have the Eagles with

472
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Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts, where does he kind of fit in to

473
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Speaker 2: the pantheon of quarterbacks.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm not sure that I've seen his story like his.

475
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Speaker 7: I mean, I remember watching that National championship game when

476
00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:28,439
Speaker 7: he got benched for Tuam and Tua gets in the

477
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Speaker 7: game and throws the game winning touchdown pass they win

478
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Speaker 7: the National Championship. Everybody's going crazy, and I think most

479
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Speaker 7: of us, maybe who are just parents, Maybe those are

480
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Speaker 7: the people. But I was thinking, oh my god, that

481
00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:48,120
Speaker 7: kid's career is over. Jalen hurts career is over. He's

482
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Speaker 7: been a really good player, but there is no way

483
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Speaker 7: mentally or emotionally he comes back from this that you

484
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Speaker 7: just can't happen. Right, goes off to Oklahoma, and I

485
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:02,280
Speaker 7: think he did a little bit of what we were

486
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Speaker 7: just talking about. He had one of the highest completion

487
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Speaker 7: percentages when he played for Oklahoma, comes out, gets drafted

488
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Speaker 7: in the second round. Universally, everybody was panning the pick.

489
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Speaker 7: How do you do in a second round quarterback? You

490
00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:19,560
Speaker 7: might as well just throw it in a garbage can

491
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Speaker 7: or whatever. But that's a team that was built around

492
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Speaker 7: offensive line, built around defensive line. And to watch him

493
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Speaker 7: and to meet him, you ever met him, You ever

494
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Speaker 7: just had a conversation with him.

495
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Speaker 4: Yeah, he's impressive.

496
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Speaker 7: He's probably the most serious minded football player I've ever met.

497
00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:44,600
Speaker 7: I mean, to get a smile out of him, you

498
00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:47,480
Speaker 7: feel like, you know, you want to have a celebration.

499
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Speaker 7: But he is all in. He's all in for his teammates.

500
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Speaker 7: He's not afraid to lead, he's not afraid to put

501
00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:59,360
Speaker 7: his head down and run. And when we talk about

502
00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:03,119
Speaker 7: great players, what do we talk about in the NFL

503
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:07,520
Speaker 7: going from the twenty to twenty Anybody can do that.

504
00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:09,919
Speaker 7: You know, if you had any chance at all, you

505
00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:13,919
Speaker 7: can do that. The game starts in two situations in

506
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:18,879
Speaker 7: the red zone in short yardag Right, those are the

507
00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:21,760
Speaker 7: two you've got to convert on third and fourth down,

508
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:23,919
Speaker 7: and you got to score touchdowns. When you get to

509
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:26,320
Speaker 7: the red zone, you're kicking field goals. You're going to

510
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:30,080
Speaker 7: lose in the NFL. And so what does this guy

511
00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:33,400
Speaker 7: do better than anybody else? He hits a high percentage,

512
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:37,400
Speaker 7: be can run the ball with He's not a Lamar Jackson,

513
00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:39,800
Speaker 7: maybe more of a Josh Allen, kind of a big, strong,

514
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:43,960
Speaker 7: physical guy. But he scores touchdowns and he converts third downs,

515
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Speaker 7: some of them with his arm, some of them with

516
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Speaker 7: his legs, some of them with just sheer power or

517
00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:52,359
Speaker 7: you know, his brain, his audibles because he studied the

518
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:55,400
Speaker 7: game so much, so it was interesting. I did an

519
00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:58,840
Speaker 7: interview with Peyton Manning not too long ago, and he

520
00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:03,520
Speaker 7: said that Jalen calls him all the time about how

521
00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:05,399
Speaker 7: do you operate? What were you thinking here? What do

522
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:08,480
Speaker 7: you do there? And he's a real curious guy, but

523
00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:12,400
Speaker 7: he is. He is a dynamic guy. What I want

524
00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:15,640
Speaker 7: him is my quarterback. I would take him all day long.

525
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Speaker 7: Plus he sets the tone for that physical style of play.

526
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Speaker 7: I mean, how frustrating would it be for a three

527
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:27,480
Speaker 7: hundred pound three hundred and fifty pound defensive tackle to

528
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Speaker 7: know he can't stop the quarterback from on a quarterback snake.

529
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Speaker 7: That's making these teams insane. I mean, they tried to

530
00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:37,000
Speaker 7: change a frigging rule on them. It's making them all

531
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Speaker 7: crazy out there. So I really I think very highly

532
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Speaker 7: of him.

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Speaker 4: Well, what's different now?

534
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Speaker 2: And you know this is NFL teams drafted a quarterback

535
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Speaker 2: and then you had to kind of adopt that team's

536
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:53,120
Speaker 2: philosophy of what they do. Now it feels like you're

537
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:57,160
Speaker 2: catering your offense. Whether it's Cam Newton or Patrick Mahomes

538
00:28:57,200 --> 00:29:01,080
Speaker 2: or Josh Allen. We want to cater our offense to

539
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:02,440
Speaker 2: your strengths.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, Lamar Jackson's probably the top of that list, right.

541
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Speaker 4: Yeah.

542
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:11,600
Speaker 7: So that was a Ozzie sitting there and there's Lamar

543
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:15,000
Speaker 7: last pick in the first round. And as it gets

544
00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:18,440
Speaker 7: a little closer, he and John Harbaugh are having this

545
00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:21,360
Speaker 7: conversation and I've talked to both of them about it,

546
00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:25,400
Speaker 7: and basically it was this, are we going to do this,

547
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:29,760
Speaker 7: because you know, we've got to change everything that we've

548
00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:32,640
Speaker 7: ever thought about offense if we're going to do this,

549
00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:36,600
Speaker 7: If we draft Lamar right here, and it's going to

550
00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:39,240
Speaker 7: be your last pick as a general manager, it's going

551
00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:43,080
Speaker 7: to be a bit of your legacy. I are ball

552
00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:47,440
Speaker 7: as a coach have to totally commit to what he

553
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:51,120
Speaker 7: does right, and at the time, nobody I mean, obviously

554
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:54,240
Speaker 7: he's a thirty second pick. Everybody else had a chance.

555
00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:56,880
Speaker 7: They didn't think that highly of them, right, But the

556
00:29:57,240 --> 00:29:59,680
Speaker 7: one thing that I thought about him from the beginning

557
00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:02,840
Speaker 7: was that he was a pocket passer at Louisville. He was,

558
00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:04,920
Speaker 7: That's what he was. Now he scrambled out of that

559
00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:07,760
Speaker 7: and he ran and he did different things. So yeah,

560
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:11,800
Speaker 7: I think that in its entirety now the league is

561
00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:15,920
Speaker 7: about finding guys who can make those plays, who can

562
00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:21,120
Speaker 7: escape pass rush, who can gain and convert third downs,

563
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:24,720
Speaker 7: strong enough to take a hit, smart enough to know

564
00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:27,920
Speaker 7: how to run an offense, but have a good enough arm.

565
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Speaker 7: And those are the guys. To me, those are the

566
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Speaker 7: guys that are winning championships right now.

567
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Speaker 2: Give me the team you're most curious about, probably the Bears.

568
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Speaker 7: You know, I think it's hard to not want to

569
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:45,440
Speaker 7: see what that combination is. Ben Johnson's a really good coach,

570
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Speaker 7: He's got a really talented quarterback, and Caleb Williams. He's

571
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Speaker 7: stacked him with receivers all around him, helped him with

572
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:58,480
Speaker 7: an offensive line. Joe Tooney's over there right now. And

573
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Speaker 7: I think Ben Johnson and that smart. You know, he's like,

574
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:04,719
Speaker 7: you know, I hate that we have a rocket scientist

575
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:07,240
Speaker 7: in the league, and you know, he's a computer scientist,

576
00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:08,920
Speaker 7: and you know, so it's like, I don't know how

577
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:11,200
Speaker 7: much of that makes a difference or not, but he's

578
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:14,080
Speaker 7: a smart guy. And I think that what he did

579
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:20,160
Speaker 7: going into Chicago was you know, I'm going to beat

580
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:22,880
Speaker 7: him up. You know, I'm going to make his life

581
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:27,440
Speaker 7: really miserable. This guy's gotten nil money in college. He

582
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:30,600
Speaker 7: drove a fancy car before I ever drove a fancy

583
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:32,880
Speaker 7: car in my life. I'm going to beat him up

584
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:37,080
Speaker 7: because this is Chicago and they take football very seriously here.

585
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:41,240
Speaker 7: And if he can't handle me, he certainly is not

586
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:43,840
Speaker 7: going to be able to handle the Green Bay Packers

587
00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:47,160
Speaker 7: and the Minnesota Vikings, right So I'm going to beat

588
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:49,080
Speaker 7: him up and see whether or not he can take it.

589
00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 7: But I still believe the hardest thing he's going to

590
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:56,840
Speaker 7: have to learn. The part that didn't make any sense

591
00:31:56,920 --> 00:32:00,200
Speaker 7: to me at the time, why Ben took Chicago go

592
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 7: instead of it could add almost any of the jobs.

593
00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:06,320
Speaker 7: Is he had a quarterback in Caleb Williams, who had

594
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Speaker 7: I think literally like a dozen snaps in college under center,

595
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:14,600
Speaker 7: and so much of what they did in Detroit, and

596
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:18,320
Speaker 7: the reason they were so successful in Detroit was because

597
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 7: they were under center and they ran football and they

598
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:24,960
Speaker 7: very much were part of that offensive line, you know,

599
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:28,640
Speaker 7: being the driving force of the team. And then Jared

600
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:31,320
Speaker 7: Goff became a good player because he got protected and

601
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:33,240
Speaker 7: they ran the football and you can go play action.

602
00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:36,880
Speaker 7: So you know what they're trying to put in place here.

603
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Speaker 7: I just it'll be interesting to see whether Caleb can

604
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:42,240
Speaker 7: become an under center quarterback.

605
00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:46,360
Speaker 2: But I don't know why more quarterbacks don't get under center.

606
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:51,280
Speaker 2: That takes away the illusion, you know, where you're going

607
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:53,360
Speaker 2: to do play action where you actually are faking or

608
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:56,560
Speaker 2: giving to a running back. And can you speak to

609
00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 2: that of everybody's in the gun.

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Speaker 7: I think it's what they know. You know. They they've

611
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:06,080
Speaker 7: got all these passing camps now when they're in high

612
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:08,720
Speaker 7: school and you go seven on seven and you do

613
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Speaker 7: all that, and so nobody's taking the center snap. And

614
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Speaker 7: I can tell I mean, I played quarterback until I

615
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:19,120
Speaker 7: was a sophomore in college when they finally figured out

616
00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:22,440
Speaker 7: I couldn't throw it at all. But so but just

617
00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:24,920
Speaker 7: and I would talk to Kenny Anderson about it. I'm like,

618
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:29,400
Speaker 7: what are you watching as you're going back? And he said,

619
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Speaker 7: I'm watching the two safeties. So if they split, that

620
00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:34,280
Speaker 7: means one thing. You know, one comes up and goes back.

621
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Speaker 7: If they're too deep, that means another thing. I know

622
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:39,920
Speaker 7: through my progressions immediately what I'm going to do. And

623
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Speaker 7: I said, well, why don't you like doing the shotgun?

624
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:46,440
Speaker 7: He said, because I got to catch the ball. And

625
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:49,160
Speaker 7: I like what he goes. If I catch the ball,

626
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:51,920
Speaker 7: I have to take my eyes off of those two safeties.

627
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:56,280
Speaker 7: So I think to some extent there you see snaps

628
00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:59,000
Speaker 7: get bobbled all the time. But they're trying to watch

629
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Speaker 7: the two safeties. They're trying to see the field. They're

630
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:03,760
Speaker 7: trying to catch it without really looking at the football.

631
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Speaker 7: But they've gotten used to doing that over the years.

632
00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:10,800
Speaker 7: What they can't do is the reverse of it, which

633
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:15,520
Speaker 7: is drop back and get themselves set and be able

634
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:17,680
Speaker 7: to make the same kind of reads down the field.

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Speaker 2: It's hard good to talk to you excited for the

636
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Speaker 2: upcoming season, and thanks for joining us.

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Speaker 7: Good talking to you, buddy.

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Speaker 2: That's Chris Collinsworth Pro Football Focus. He's a part of

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Speaker 2: and it'll be eight Eastern the NFL kickoff and it'll

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Speaker 2: be the Cowboys and the Eagles.

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Speaker 4: We'll take a break, our best and worst of the weekend.

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Speaker 2: I just saw the DraftKings odds that it's Ohio State

649
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Speaker 2: and Texas. They are the favorites to win the national championship.

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Speaker 2: As we segue into Rick new heisl college football analyst

651
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Speaker 2: for CBS, former college football coach, and Rick, great to

652
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:13,440
Speaker 2: see you again. You got Texas and Ohio State playing

653
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Speaker 2: each other in Week one. Normally you have those cupcakes

654
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Speaker 2: that you ease into the season. So how do you

655
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:22,760
Speaker 2: get your team ready to go right away? For Ohio

656
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:25,920
Speaker 2: State and Texas well, I don't think you have to

657
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Speaker 2: even try.

658
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Speaker 6: I think everybody understands the magnitude of the contest and

659
00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 6: the stage that will be the City of Columbus and

660
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:36,960
Speaker 6: the Shoe. This is going to be a monster game.

661
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Speaker 6: What's fascinating about this game is that you've got two

662
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Speaker 6: quarterbacks with relatively little experience, and I think the two coaches,

663
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:49,680
Speaker 6: Sark and Ryan, will basically play a vera cat and

664
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Speaker 6: mouse game. I think this is a low scoring game.

665
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Speaker 6: Try to make sure that your quarterback's comfortable, don't throw

666
00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:59,319
Speaker 6: them to the wolves too early. And I think it's

667
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Speaker 6: going to be a wonderful setting.

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Speaker 4: Who's winning the Big Ten this year?

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Speaker 6: You know, I think Penn State, if not now when right,

670
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Speaker 6: They've got so many things coming back. The two running

671
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:12,799
Speaker 6: backs are fantastic, They've got the most experienced quarterback in

672
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Speaker 6: the league. They've got you know, James Franklin has proven

673
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Speaker 6: he can recruit. They're wonderful defenders this and they've got

674
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Speaker 6: a schedule to beat the band right, They've got three

675
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Speaker 6: the pre seed, it's basically pre season football for the

676
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Speaker 6: first three games. I think it's Nevada, f i U,

677
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Speaker 6: and Villanova to start the season, then a bye, then

678
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:38,840
Speaker 6: you get the white Out game versus Oregon. So everything

679
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:41,680
Speaker 6: sets up for Penn State this year. What about the

680
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Speaker 6: SEC You know I'm gonna go with LSU. I think

681
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Speaker 6: Garrett Nesmeyer is the real deal. We all remember both

682
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Speaker 6: Joe Burrow and Jade and Daniels. I think this guy

683
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 6: is going to have a heck of a game in

684
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Speaker 6: Death Valley, although with a small d I guess even

685
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Speaker 6: that it's not Bat and Rue. I think he and

686
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:03,680
Speaker 6: Klubnik are going to put on a show, but I

687
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:05,520
Speaker 6: think duss Meyer's going to come out on top.

688
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Speaker 2: We have twelve teams now in a playoff, probably going

689
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Speaker 2: to fourteen or sixteen at some point. Then the Big

690
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:17,080
Speaker 2: Ten leaks a proposal for twenty four to twenty eight teams.

691
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Speaker 4: Why did they leak that? To me?

692
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Speaker 6: It was almost to get people to understand sixteen is

693
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Speaker 6: the right number. Sometimes if you have twelve and people

694
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:30,239
Speaker 6: sitting there, maybe twelve is the right number. And then

695
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Speaker 6: you throw twenty four to twenty eight out somewhere. If compromises,

696
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Speaker 6: where we're going to be. Compromise now goes to sixteen.

697
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Speaker 6: As I like to say, the answers money Now, what

698
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:46,680
Speaker 6: was the question? I think we're going to sixteen. The

699
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:49,719
Speaker 6: fact that no team with a bye last year one

700
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:54,440
Speaker 6: shows the lack of value of that buy, and I

701
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Speaker 6: think sixteen will be a great number for college football.

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Speaker 2: I'm talking to Rick new Heisl's CBS Sports college football

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Speaker 2: analyst and former college football coach. We're going to get

704
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Speaker 2: to a number where we're going to jeopardize the regular season?

705
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Speaker 2: Or have we gotten to a number where we're jeopardizing

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Speaker 2: the regular season?

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Speaker 6: I understand the argument, but I just saw an analytic

708
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Speaker 6: piece of data where case State and losing to Iowa

709
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:24,080
Speaker 6: State over there in Dublin, now their playoff chances shrink

710
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:29,960
Speaker 6: to thirteen percent. So remember, even at sixteen, the number

711
00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:33,319
Speaker 6: is much smaller than any other sports league out there

712
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Speaker 6: in terms of who gets to graduate to the playoffs.

713
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Speaker 6: We have one hundred and thirty seven teams in Division

714
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:42,799
Speaker 6: one football. So the facts of the matter are the

715
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Speaker 6: regular season is still very, very exciting. These preseason games

716
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Speaker 6: are testament to that. And then you get to that

717
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:52,840
Speaker 6: month in November with so many more teams are still

718
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:57,319
Speaker 6: in the hunt, it just gets overwhelming. And if we

719
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Speaker 6: go to automatic qualifiers, which I think will be the end. Sure, again,

720
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Speaker 6: with the premise that the answers money, what was the question?

721
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Speaker 6: We get to automatic qualifiers, you can only imagine the

722
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Speaker 6: influx of more playoff games, much like the NBA, where

723
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Speaker 6: both the SEC and Big Ten will have play in games.

724
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Speaker 2: SEC going to nine games schedule, yeah, means.

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Speaker 6: Means that the coaches didn't get their way. I think

726
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:25,520
Speaker 6: Greg Sanki did his best to try to listen to

727
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Speaker 6: him and see if it made sense. But when Oklahoma

728
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:32,440
Speaker 6: is selling seats at a postgame press conference and Tennessee

729
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:35,280
Speaker 6: is selling advertising that's going to appear on the field,

730
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Speaker 6: you can see the analytic directors are in need of

731
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Speaker 6: money and rather than keep shaking down the boosters, they're going,

732
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Speaker 6: let's go to that ninth conference game. Our television partners

733
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Speaker 6: will pay more for it. It now creates an opportunity

734
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Speaker 6: with the Big Ten to create some non conference games

735
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Speaker 6: that will be paid for handsomely.

736
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Speaker 3: It's a money play and it's the right move.

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Speaker 4: What did you think of the NCAA's punishment with Michigan?

738
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Speaker 6: Much ado about nothing. The guy who is most guilty

739
00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:06,200
Speaker 6: is still coaching.

740
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Speaker 3: In the NFL.

741
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Speaker 6: Now, had they done something to Jim Harbaugh and he

742
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:11,680
Speaker 6: had to sit a little bit in the NFL, that

743
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:15,120
Speaker 6: would have been something. But and remember That's exactly what

744
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:19,200
Speaker 6: they did with Jim Tressel when he was got his

745
00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:21,600
Speaker 6: hand in the cricket jar with that tattoo gate thing.

746
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:25,120
Speaker 6: They made him sit as he was working for the

747
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Speaker 6: Colts at the time. This is a big fine, twenty

748
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Speaker 6: million bucks, maybe even north of that, but at day's end,

749
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Speaker 6: it was worth it.

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Speaker 3: For those who said, Michigan versus.

751
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Speaker 4: The world, would you have punished Tarbaugh?

752
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Speaker 6: I would have, yeah, if the punishment could have gone

753
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Speaker 6: to sit him down, because that flew in the face

754
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Speaker 6: of what we're all about in terms of fair play.

755
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Speaker 6: And listen, I know I've always had a bent against Harball,

756
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Speaker 6: so I'm real kind of careful about my personal bias

757
00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:02,239
Speaker 6: about it. But at days en, if we really want

758
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 6: to curtail this stuff, that's the punishment should have followed

759
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Speaker 6: the criminal.

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Speaker 2: Notre Dame doesn't have to join a conference now ever,

761
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Speaker 2: because all they have to do is go ten and

762
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Speaker 2: two and they're going to be in the playoffs because

763
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Speaker 2: they're a.

764
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Speaker 6: Brand and can get whether it's home games or can

765
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Speaker 6: get the buy right. The seating thing changed. So Jack

766
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 6: Swarbrick goes down as a hero. Not only did he

767
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:30,880
Speaker 6: fight for their independence, he also has got them in

768
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Speaker 6: a chance where they can be part of the field

769
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Speaker 6: on an annual basis and they can schedule around it.

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Speaker 6: That will be the interesting thing. Who will schedule Notre

771
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Speaker 6: Dame and can they freeze them out to force them

772
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Speaker 6: into a into a conference That remains to be seen.

773
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Speaker 2: But you know they're playing USC but that's going away, right,

774
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Speaker 2: They're not playing Michigan. I mean, who's They're going to

775
00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:57,239
Speaker 2: play some acc you know, schedule teams, but that's right.

776
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Speaker 2: Tennant j seems pretty reasonable every year for Notre Dame.

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Speaker 6: I would agree. I would agree, And they've got a

778
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Speaker 6: nice recruiting machinery. This is a good thing for Notre Dame.

779
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Speaker 6: But there will be some clamoring back and forth after

780
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:15,759
Speaker 6: a few years of this. This is in its infancy.

781
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Speaker 6: But after a few years if they don't schedule up

782
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Speaker 6: and it'll be interesting as to the big ten in

783
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Speaker 6: the SEC how much they'll schedule them. You can see

784
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Speaker 6: both of those conference involved with the Notre Dame Right now.

785
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Speaker 2: I was watching a little bit of the Browns with

786
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Speaker 2: Shadoor Sanders and of course Kleb Williams. Last year, it

787
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:38,799
Speaker 2: feels like quarterbacks coming in from college are they have

788
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:43,080
Speaker 2: bad habits right, hold on the ball right. Sometimes they'll

789
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:45,759
Speaker 2: have their hips parallel to the line of scrimmage. Then

790
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:48,839
Speaker 2: they already take away one side of the field. They're

791
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:50,600
Speaker 2: only going to be locked in on the right side.

792
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:54,480
Speaker 2: They get the ball out too slow, they try to

793
00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:58,360
Speaker 2: make plays. You play the position, coach the position. What

794
00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:01,040
Speaker 2: is it that you're seeing with these younger quarterbacks?

795
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Speaker 6: Those two guys in particular, are you know, have watched

796
00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:10,080
Speaker 6: the Patrick Mahomes extension right when Mahomes breaks the what

797
00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:13,160
Speaker 6: was called in the huddle and now becomes a freelancer.

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Speaker 6: He's been magnificent. And the oohs and ohs that follow

799
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:20,120
Speaker 6: those kind of plays have been a lot. Those two

800
00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:23,320
Speaker 6: guys also were given green lights by their coaches. Lincoln

801
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:26,839
Speaker 6: Riley and Dion Sanders have both said, you guys are

802
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:29,520
Speaker 6: the quarterback, so they've been allowed to just play this

803
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:34,040
Speaker 6: kind of backyard football Johnny johnny football type of quarterback

804
00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:37,759
Speaker 6: the NFL because people don't the people get open the

805
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:39,920
Speaker 6: same way they do in college, but they don't stay open.

806
00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:42,640
Speaker 6: You have to let the ball go. You have to

807
00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:46,040
Speaker 6: have anticipation, which means there has to be a metronome

808
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:49,279
Speaker 6: in your footwork and they don't possess it now. I

809
00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:51,640
Speaker 6: saw Caleb Williams in that thirty eight I think they

810
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:54,920
Speaker 6: beat the Bills thirty eight to nothing. That was as

811
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:57,320
Speaker 6: good as I've ever seen him in terms of throwing

812
00:43:57,400 --> 00:44:00,839
Speaker 6: on time and with rhythm. If once he gets there

813
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:04,040
Speaker 6: and Ben Johnson's working on that, he can be a

814
00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:07,319
Speaker 6: great player. That will be the case with Shadeur as well.

815
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Speaker 6: The question is how many reps will Shador get now

816
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:12,600
Speaker 6: that he's in a four quarterback kind of an azerie

817
00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:13,400
Speaker 6: there in Cleveland.

818
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Speaker 2: I thought Dylan Gabriel looked good because he makes quick decisions.

819
00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:21,359
Speaker 6: That's exactly who Dylan Gabriel is. He knows he has

820
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:24,319
Speaker 6: to get it out of his hand, he knows what

821
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:27,520
Speaker 6: the defense tells him his feet. His feet are almost

822
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:31,719
Speaker 6: perfectly in place to throw with rhythm, and he throws accurately.

823
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Speaker 6: He's a bright guy. He's in the good leader. That's

824
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:37,400
Speaker 6: why he had more starts in college football than anybody previous.

825
00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:43,839
Speaker 2: Andrew luck is a GM, Like, what role is is that?

826
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Speaker 4: And he's in the booth during the game.

827
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Speaker 6: Oh, he's he's a junkie, Dan. I mean, I got

828
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:52,000
Speaker 6: a chance to talk to him. He loves this being

829
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:53,719
Speaker 6: back in it. As a matter of fact, it was

830
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:57,719
Speaker 6: precipitated by him going to the president at Stanford and saying, hey,

831
00:44:57,719 --> 00:45:00,480
Speaker 6: here's my two cents on what's the program needs.

832
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:02,640
Speaker 3: He says, well, then why don't you run it? And

833
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:04,520
Speaker 3: it's basically he's got the job.

834
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Speaker 6: It'll be interesting to see if he can keep from

835
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:11,839
Speaker 6: becoming the head coach if he because he's got such

836
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:14,479
Speaker 6: a zest for it. He hired the guy, Frank Reich,

837
00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:18,359
Speaker 6: who was the officiant in his wedding, and you know,

838
00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 6: so that this is a partnership and he's all over

839
00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:22,000
Speaker 6: the practice field.

840
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Speaker 3: The guy's having a blast.

841
00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:26,279
Speaker 6: But they're going to have to average more than under

842
00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:28,719
Speaker 6: four yards a pass attempt if they're going to be

843
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:29,920
Speaker 6: a player in the ACC.

844
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Speaker 4: Great to catch up with you, we'll talk to you always.

845
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:33,280
Speaker 3: A blast, my friend.

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00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:36,239
Speaker 4: Thank you, Bud, see ya, Rick Neuheisel