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Speaker 1: suitable for all audiences. Listener discretion is advised. The world's

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Speaker 1: original poet, Welcome to Patriot's Unfiltered. We got a little

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Speaker 1: insight into the psyche of Bill today, did we. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I always like when you explain things to me. There

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Speaker 1: was a moment. How have you guys been managing about you? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Mike's still under the weather. He's on the injury report.

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Speaker 1: Will be able to rifle through picks now because he

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Speaker 1: takes a little time sometimes, maybe you should take a

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Speaker 1: little more time. Oh, he actually hang out with Tony

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Speaker 1: Robinson Robbins, but she's met this week. I'm just kidding

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Speaker 1: about this. I thought he just had like this intervention coming. Well,

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Speaker 1: that's that's the joke, the actual joking. They were all quiet.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with Jacksonville. I will not bet on

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Speaker 1: a consecuted unterback. Oh, if somebody wants to give me

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Speaker 1: a third round for win, I'll do it. Well, yes,

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Speaker 1: I would do that. This is Patriots Unfiltered, fueled by Duncan.

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Speaker 1: All right, Welcome the Patriots Unfiltered. It is Tuesday, after

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Speaker 1: another win, the fourth of the season for the Patriots

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Speaker 1: to get them back to five hundred. So happy days

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Speaker 1: are here again. We're gonna talk about the game. A

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Speaker 1: lot of people called it not a loss instead of

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Speaker 1: a win, but we'll talk about that. I think any

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Speaker 1: road win in the NFL is a good win. But um,

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Speaker 1: we'll go over that. We'll go over the fact that

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Speaker 1: the Colts have just fired their offensive coordinator, uh, the

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Speaker 1: week before the Patriots game, so they fear us. That's right, Um,

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Speaker 1: and uh, you know, whatever else we want to talk about.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of stuff going around. Trade deadline, trade deadline.

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Speaker 1: I don't think anything's gonna come with that, but we'll

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Speaker 1: see you information. I just you know, as you read

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Speaker 1: my notes, no we we'd be getting rumbled. You didn't.

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Speaker 1: I know, you didn't read my notes. Intriguing title there, Paul,

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Speaker 1: I like that. I like the titles. Is that you

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Speaker 1: must have just posted that right, yeah this morning? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: because I didn't see it. I didn't get the alert.

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Speaker 1: Well I was a little. But basically, my my premise

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Speaker 1: don't need to add, you don't need to sell off

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Speaker 1: It's not like you have a Roquan Smith that might

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Speaker 1: Mike Reese talked about this a little bit. You know,

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Speaker 1: It's Deuce, it's Paul, it's me, Um, it's next step.

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Speaker 1: Duce back in the studio. I'm back. I'm back from COVID. Everybody, Hello,

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Speaker 1: thank you for for Matt and the booth. Will will

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Speaker 1: we be joined by anyone else today? No, Alex is

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Speaker 1: out on community. Oh there's a lot of events. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: bottom of it though. Sure. So let's start with what

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Speaker 1: He slides and he puts his foot up. And then

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Speaker 1: now against the Jets game, we got him like going down. Oh,

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Speaker 1: They could not protect the passer. They couldn't open up

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Speaker 1: But it's hard. It's hard. When it is hard, it's

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Speaker 1: tied with by the way the Colts for the most

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Speaker 1: in football, and they tried hard to do it even more. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: big should have had four turnovers in that game. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: is it? And I can understand why some people said,

427
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Speaker 1: you know, was more of not a loss than a win,

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Speaker 1: you know which, Like again, it's the Jets, though they

429
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Speaker 1: had they had to win the game. So like I

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Speaker 1: said on the post game show with Mike and like

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Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not big on style points, Like I'm

432
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Speaker 1: not gonna tell you this was a great performance. This

433
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Speaker 1: was a gritty, gutty effort. I don't think it was.

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Speaker 1: I think they allowed the other team to mess up

435
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Speaker 1: more than they did, and they won. But they had

436
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Speaker 1: a win, so I don't really care why it happened. Yeah,

437
00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:16,800
Speaker 1: I mean the Jets, I mean they You could you

438
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Speaker 1: could make the case that if this was the game

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Speaker 1: where the Jets were going to break the streak, or

440
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Speaker 1: if there was a game where that this would seem

441
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Speaker 1: like it was right on a four game winning streak.

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Speaker 1: They're pumped up. You know, you figured, Okay, this is

443
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Speaker 1: gonna be tough, and it was tough. But you know,

444
00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:35,359
Speaker 1: at the same time, they're off their offense. Let them down.

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Speaker 1: I thought the quarterback like Rich Simony, is that how

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Speaker 1: you uh? You know? Some some tweets from him, some

447
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Speaker 1: tweets from a long time Jets blogger named Joe Caparrosso

448
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Speaker 1: who runs the site Turn on the Jets. He's like,

449
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Speaker 1: you know, every bit of super Patriots blogger, No, this

450
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Speaker 1: is the these are people though those are your people. No,

451
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Speaker 1: this is the but these are the people that you

452
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Speaker 1: have figure on the pulse of the These are the

453
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Speaker 1: guys that for fifteen years he has been following the Jets,

454
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Speaker 1: like I've been following the Patriots. And while I've been like, wow,

455
00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:06,359
Speaker 1: I was in this great he's been suffering through everything.

456
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Speaker 1: The Jets. Anyway, the vibe from them coming in was

457
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Speaker 1: like twenty two. This is it, this is payback. They

458
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Speaker 1: embarrassed us last year. We've got the better team. Now

459
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Speaker 1: they were embarrassed last week. You're gonna come in here

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Speaker 1: and and that's I mean, you talk about it wasn't

461
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Speaker 1: a last week. You don't know what it would have

462
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Speaker 1: been like to lose that game to the Jets. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it would have been it would have been devastating. So

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Speaker 1: for that point, I'm it's a win. But I can't

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Speaker 1: wait for the rematch in a couple of weeks because

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Speaker 1: that team can't maybe watch sixty more minutes or those

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Speaker 1: two teams playing. Please, it's actually three weeks because of

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Speaker 1: the vibe. All right, right, I got you. The buyers

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Speaker 1: don't count to me, Paul, and I'm only football. Sorry

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Speaker 1: that was COVID brain right there. Um. But yeah, I

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Speaker 1: think they're gonna come back in and they're gonna play

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Speaker 1: even more with something to prove some pressure off, not

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Speaker 1: in front of their fans. It's not like the big

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Speaker 1: production of this is when we take down the dynasty.

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Speaker 1: But me though, says that when they have that close

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Speaker 1: game in New York, they come back here and get

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Speaker 1: absolute least absolutely fact, yeah, absolutely fact. I agree with

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Speaker 1: Mike though in this in this case, in that I

479
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Speaker 1: think a lot of people just have penciled in these

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Speaker 1: two games, the Colts and the Jets the second one. Um,

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Speaker 1: Like I said, if they just go back and look

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Speaker 1: and they say, all we have to do is be

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Speaker 1: conservative and keep him out of harm's way, we can win.

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Speaker 1: They will have a chance to. I will guarantee you

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Speaker 1: if they just don't turn the ball over, they'll have

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Speaker 1: a chance. Yeah, I'm not telling you they'll win if

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Speaker 1: they don't turn it over, But if they just stay

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Speaker 1: out of the way and and make him throw when

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Speaker 1: he wants to as opposed, you know, make it twenty

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Speaker 1: three attempts instead of forty one attempts. He I mean,

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Speaker 1: this is probably for a different time, maybe an offseason.

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Speaker 1: I'd be ridiculously frustrated if I were a Jets fan,

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Speaker 1: because it's one thing to have a bust that you

494
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Speaker 1: you know, Achille Smith just couldn't do it. You know,

495
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Speaker 1: DeMarcus Russell, countless others right high draft picks that just

496
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Speaker 1: can't play. This guy can play. He's just too stubborn.

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Speaker 1: To understand when and when not to do things that

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Speaker 1: he does. Yeah, some of the throws he made on

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Speaker 1: that in that game were ridiculous. The throw in the

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Speaker 1: first like the second drive, the bomb on the when

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Speaker 1: he escaped the pocket rolling to his right and he

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Speaker 1: hit Grett Wilson in stride, Like, that's not an easy play.

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Speaker 1: He's got a great arm, you know what I think

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Speaker 1: he is. He's Josh Allen light well, and I don't

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Speaker 1: know if he can ever figure it out the way

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen did. Josh Allen still has some of those things.

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Speaker 1: Don't think he respects the speed of the defense. He doesn't.

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Speaker 1: He doesn't ren outrun everybody. He doesn't respect anything. I

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Speaker 1: just I think once he gets off his first read

510
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Speaker 1: and things start to change. I mean, I think he's

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Speaker 1: pretty good when he's on the run sometimes, but those

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Speaker 1: mistakes are just absolute. Like, you know, he's running like

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Speaker 1: twenty five yards behind the line of scrimmage. I know,

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Speaker 1: I've never seen a guy your your bat pedal and

515
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Speaker 1: you're not even gonna reach the line of scrimmage. Would

516
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Speaker 1: you throw? I've never seen a guy throw so many

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Speaker 1: interceptions or interception worthy throws while trying to throw the

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Speaker 1: ball away. It's like and he was trying to throw

519
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Speaker 1: the ball away and he throws it to Devin mccordy,

520
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Speaker 1: and like, I don't really understand how stupid you have

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Speaker 1: to be as a quarterback to just not run to

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Speaker 1: the right and throw it out of bounds right, and

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Speaker 1: it's and it's as much as damage as the turnover

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Speaker 1: does within the game, I think psychologically to your team,

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Speaker 1: because I know how I felt about this guy's an

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Speaker 1: idiot when you said about all that stuff about the

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Speaker 1: crowd and the fans and the reaction going into the game,

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Speaker 1: I felt like that all completely disappeared on the first interception. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: there was not one peep in that stadium the whole

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Speaker 1: second half, and it was all because they were like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: this is what we've been doing. We stay close, we

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Speaker 1: get the lead. It's a low score that that was

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Speaker 1: the Jets kind of game. At ten three with the

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Speaker 1: ball to end the half, it was probably going to

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Speaker 1: be thirteen three because they were moving and they had

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Speaker 1: moved the ball. They had four hundred yards of offense

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Speaker 1: in this game, Like, they moved the ball reasonably well

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Speaker 1: and only that last drive was garbage town. You know,

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Speaker 1: and I'll chop off the last drive. Patriots defense played well, yeah,

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Speaker 1: so I'm not telling, but I'm stuff. They made some

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Speaker 1: plays in this game and they were moving at the

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Speaker 1: end of the half and he had the running back

543
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Speaker 1: I think it was Ty Johnson wide open and he

544
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Speaker 1: throws off his back foot. He floats it carelessly. If

545
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Speaker 1: he doesn't figure it out, he'll always be that. But

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Speaker 1: you know that a lot of those things that he

547
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Speaker 1: does the things that Josh Allen did. Yes, until he

548
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Speaker 1: figured out he does not have the size or physical

549
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Speaker 1: gifts that Josh Allen does. That's why you say he's

550
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Speaker 1: Josh Allen light. He couldn't hit. He's gonna hit the

551
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Speaker 1: bull every once in a while because he's all over

552
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Speaker 1: the place with that army. But he can throw the

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Speaker 1: ball that that touchdown throw to Conklin the first touchdown.

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Speaker 1: Oh that was I mean, I felt bad for Josh.

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Speaker 1: Great coverage on that play. That's exactly what I wrote

556
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Speaker 1: in my little thing called I was like, that's the NFL.

557
00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:47,440
Speaker 1: He can you a little thing out of it. Sorry,

558
00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:50,919
Speaker 1: but I think that these teams are so interesting to

559
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Speaker 1: me because you have you know, obviously, the quarterbacks line

560
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Speaker 1: up in terms of the draft class. But you know,

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Speaker 1: we always talk about you need high round draft guys,

562
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Speaker 1: you need talent, and I think when you look at

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Speaker 1: the Jets, they have talent. How did Garrett Wilson look

564
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Speaker 1: the awesome? I mean, he was my favorite receiver coming out,

565
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Speaker 1: like I mean, he's not the best receiver. The best

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Speaker 1: receiver was hers. Wilson killed them, you know, and don't

567
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Speaker 1: even talk about you know, like third fourth overall pick

568
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Speaker 1: guys like Franklin Myers. I mean, these guys are disruptive,

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Speaker 1: they are tough, and you know, it's just it's interesting

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Speaker 1: for a team. Sometimes. We talked so much about the

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Speaker 1: Patriots being kind of talent starved and only having you know,

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Speaker 1: if you're doing a draft, how many Patriots would you

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Speaker 1: take versus Jets. I get those points, and it's just

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Speaker 1: Zach Wilson is killing them. He kills them, and if

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Speaker 1: he just didn't do that, the Jets would probably be

576
00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:34,840
Speaker 1: neck and neck. I think that was one of those games.

577
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Speaker 1: And I know you guys are gonna make fun of me,

578
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Speaker 1: and I know the fans and the I mean the listeners,

579
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Speaker 1: and you're right to make fun of me for saying

580
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Speaker 1: this because I'm going to come off as a in Bill,

581
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Speaker 1: we trust Nube. You switch, you switch coaching staff, and

582
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Speaker 1: the Jets win that game Sunday. There's no dub. You

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Speaker 1: don't have to switch a player because their quarterback didn't

584
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Speaker 1: play that much worse than yours did, Like he just

585
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Speaker 1: made stupid mistakes. That Mac Jones got away with Zach

586
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Speaker 1: Wilson um. But I think if you had the constant

587
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:07,159
Speaker 1: browbeating that Bill Belichick would have, my guests would have,

588
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Speaker 1: you wouldn't have seen those balls thrown into Harm's way

589
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:12,040
Speaker 1: like that. It's something to think about it. And I

590
00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:14,240
Speaker 1: think you need to remember that you're gonna face Bruce

591
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Speaker 1: Hall with this team a bunch. I mean, he's not

592
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:19,480
Speaker 1: going anywhere. So this team is young, they have a

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Speaker 1: lot of talent. They maybe you know, they're not quite

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Speaker 1: there yet. They're making the mistakes, but as soon as

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Speaker 1: three weeks from now, it's it's we've got Romandre Stevenson.

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Speaker 1: That week I saw the forty nine as we're looking

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Speaker 1: to get you know, Alvin Kamara, they were had you know,

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Speaker 1: uh not the forty nine. What the I don't know

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00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:40,440
Speaker 1: what you're talking. I think the Rams had feelers out

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00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:44,399
Speaker 1: for Alvin Kamara um to the Saints, and I was thinking, well,

601
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Speaker 1: we don't need him because we've got Stevenson. I mean,

602
00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:49,080
Speaker 1: this guy, he's now doing it in the passing game.

603
00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:52,440
Speaker 1: He's doing the running game. Just let it go. Who

604
00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:55,119
Speaker 1: was looking for Alvin Kamara? Somebody was. I don't know,

605
00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:57,399
Speaker 1: but I would take Alvin Kamara over. Remind Stevens. I

606
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Speaker 1: don't know. Stevens is pretty good now he's getting better.

607
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Speaker 1: He's fine. I mean he is. He's the best player

608
00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:03,680
Speaker 1: in the team. I told you out a month ago.

609
00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:06,119
Speaker 1: You guys scoffed at not you. You scoffed at me.

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Speaker 1: I did never scoff at I don't think. And the

611
00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:12,040
Speaker 1: listeners scoffed at me. I didn't. I didn't scoff fred said,

612
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Speaker 1: Isaiah wit It left guard. You didn't, you didn't, scoff

613
00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:18,640
Speaker 1: at me, Mike Rope, I'm right. But he had almost

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Speaker 1: half of the Patriots offensive yards. That's what happens when

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Speaker 1: you don't get any offensive yards. No, he had like

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Speaker 1: one hundred and forty five or something like that. They

617
00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:27,959
Speaker 1: only had two hundred and eighty as a team now.

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Speaker 1: And that's and like the and the point is and

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Speaker 1: I think Paul and I both kind of highlight what

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Speaker 1: he ended, right, That's what happens when you don't get

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Speaker 1: any yards. One guy accumulates them, all right, And it's

622
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Speaker 1: him though you know it's him. It's I mean, it's

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Speaker 1: not like you could say, well, our offensive line is great.

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Speaker 1: Plug anybody in there, and they're going to pick up

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Speaker 1: these yards, breaking tackles at he's meeting guy, Guys are

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Speaker 1: meeting him in the hole. He's making a mess, he's

627
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Speaker 1: running over guys, he's breaking tackles. I mean, he's he

628
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Speaker 1: had at least three zero yard runs in that game

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Speaker 1: that were amazing runs. Zero yard runs. Yeah, so he's

630
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Speaker 1: been he's been playing great and they had fourteen plays

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Speaker 1: and minds. I don't understand what's going on with the

632
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:04,920
Speaker 1: rest of the wide receivers. I don't understand. How can

633
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Speaker 1: it be? And I guess you know you got to

634
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Speaker 1: put it on Mac, But are they not getting open? Uh?

635
00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:13,120
Speaker 1: You know, Born played like half the snaps. How many

636
00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:17,040
Speaker 1: targets did he get? I mean, I didn't remember anybody. Yeah,

637
00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:20,960
Speaker 1: I don't either. I don't either. One, I don't even

638
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:24,040
Speaker 1: remember he was out there half the time. Agalore one

639
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:28,600
Speaker 1: Parker one, born one, Thornton two, Like, what's got your

640
00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:31,320
Speaker 1: your other four wide receivers. That's why I don't want

641
00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:33,480
Speaker 1: to trade any of them. I think they need them. Yeah,

642
00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:35,640
Speaker 1: you know, now it looks like Parker is going to

643
00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:38,600
Speaker 1: miss at least sometime. Um, you know, he might get

644
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:40,760
Speaker 1: lucky with the bye week and maybe only miss a game.

645
00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:44,160
Speaker 1: But I mean that's basically two games because he played

646
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:47,640
Speaker 1: one play in this game, right, So I think that's

647
00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:49,520
Speaker 1: why I felt like I did when I wrote the

648
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:52,400
Speaker 1: you know, just hold on to them at some point.

649
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:54,680
Speaker 1: If you're so now you're missing Parker, Let's say you're

650
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:59,240
Speaker 1: missing Myers, who missed you know, a game earlier, right

651
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:01,280
Speaker 1: with at least one game with with the knee injury.

652
00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:03,920
Speaker 1: I think Green Bay he missed. Yeah, so let's say

653
00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:07,600
Speaker 1: you know you got to be without him, you're gonna

654
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:11,960
Speaker 1: need Agalore ye, And I don't know, like I'm very encouraged.

655
00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:15,680
Speaker 1: I'm very encouraged by Tae Kwon Thornton. As you guys

656
00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:19,080
Speaker 1: know from training camp. I haven't seen much around the

657
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:21,120
Speaker 1: last couple of weeks now, right, He's gotten a lot

658
00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:25,040
Speaker 1: of opportunities. I didn't like that drop. The drop looked

659
00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:28,160
Speaker 1: like he was hearing footsteps a little bit. I'm not listen.

660
00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:30,719
Speaker 1: He's a kid, he's he's finding his way. I love

661
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:34,040
Speaker 1: the skills. I'm not killing him. I'm just saying I

662
00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:37,000
Speaker 1: think myself included, I think people would just say, well,

663
00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:39,760
Speaker 1: he could just do the Agalore role because he's better

664
00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:43,520
Speaker 1: than a right He's he's fast, he can get downfield,

665
00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:45,800
Speaker 1: he can make big plays. But is he ready for that.

666
00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:48,400
Speaker 1: He might not be ready for that big of a role.

667
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:50,480
Speaker 1: He might be more suited to what we kind of

668
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:52,640
Speaker 1: thought heading into the year. Let's get him out there.

669
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:54,719
Speaker 1: Let's give him some shots, see if he can make

670
00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:56,600
Speaker 1: some plays. I love the shot they took at him

671
00:30:57,120 --> 00:31:00,000
Speaker 1: in the Chicago game that unfortunately got a little pressure.

672
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:01,960
Speaker 1: You got hit as he right as he was throwing.

673
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:04,360
Speaker 1: It just missed, but he had a step. That's what

674
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 1: I want to see from Thornton. Give him some opportunities

675
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:08,640
Speaker 1: down the field. I figured exactly what the play was,

676
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:10,600
Speaker 1: but it was an agile or play coming towards us

677
00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:12,320
Speaker 1: where he got the ball behind the line of scrimmage.

678
00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:14,280
Speaker 1: Either it was the throw to him and it looked

679
00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:16,680
Speaker 1: like he had some speed and then he just kind

680
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:18,720
Speaker 1: of ran right into like the blocking and fell down

681
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:21,120
Speaker 1: Jets defense. I will say this for all the shots

682
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 1: that we've been taking at the Jets so far. You know,

683
00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:26,680
Speaker 1: through this first half hour, the Jets defense looked at me,

684
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:28,000
Speaker 1: feel like, if you take a shots, I feel like

685
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:29,920
Speaker 1: we could taking his shots to Zach Wilson desertly so.

686
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:31,760
Speaker 1: But otherwise I have a lot of respect for that

687
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:34,200
Speaker 1: their personnel. Yeah, I don't think that. I don't think

688
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:37,480
Speaker 1: that was a flukey back to front. They're pretty good defense. Yeah,

689
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:39,880
Speaker 1: I think that all the key pieces, you know, if

690
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:42,240
Speaker 1: Jerremay Johnson turns into an elite pass rush and he's

691
00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:44,600
Speaker 1: kind and he's been he's been decent. He's just been

692
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:47,920
Speaker 1: battling some injuries lately. He missed the last two games. Um,

693
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:51,200
Speaker 1: he hasn't been great, but he's been okay. And I

694
00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:54,120
Speaker 1: think that they have the makings, like you know what

695
00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:56,080
Speaker 1: you watch fred Or is your thing. I'll save you

696
00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 1: the line, And we haven't had it yet this week.

697
00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:02,440
Speaker 1: You know, they're very easy to defend. H Yeah, that's

698
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:05,000
Speaker 1: what they looked like because the Jets had no respect

699
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:06,880
Speaker 1: for that offense the other day they were out at

700
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:09,120
Speaker 1: or around. It might made me think of it when

701
00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:11,200
Speaker 1: he talked about the like the screen to aggal Or,

702
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 1: it wasn't really a screen, but it was like a screen,

703
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:15,200
Speaker 1: bubble screen kind of. You know. They tried one to

704
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:17,800
Speaker 1: John H. Smith that Matt had a turf because they

705
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:19,920
Speaker 1: blew it up. They were around the line of scrimmage,

706
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:23,240
Speaker 1: you know, secondary guys were around the line of scrimmage

707
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:28,480
Speaker 1: constantly making tackles. Sauce Gardner was was doing it and

708
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:31,480
Speaker 1: it wasn't and they weren't getting burned. Yeah, right, because

709
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:34,120
Speaker 1: they had no fear of getting beaten, beaten over the top,

710
00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:36,480
Speaker 1: and if they did get beaten over the top, they

711
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:38,520
Speaker 1: I think that they were pretty confident that their front

712
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:41,040
Speaker 1: four would not allow the time that it would take

713
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:42,840
Speaker 1: to make those places. Yeah. I think I think the

714
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:45,000
Speaker 1: issue for them also, to highlight, is like we got

715
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:46,840
Speaker 1: to get Stevens into the ground, you know, like we

716
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:48,680
Speaker 1: we have them, like don't let them just don't let

717
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:50,720
Speaker 1: them get out of it. You know. That's but otherwise,

718
00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:52,800
Speaker 1: I uh, you know, I hate saying it that that

719
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:54,240
Speaker 1: you have a lot of respect, but I mean you're

720
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:57,560
Speaker 1: to your point, Paul. If you switch coaches, it's like

721
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:00,720
Speaker 1: if Bill Belichick leaves soon you're not going to have

722
00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:03,080
Speaker 1: that advantage anymore. And you're looking at the Jets with

723
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:06,200
Speaker 1: some serious talent. They they they are a team on

724
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:07,680
Speaker 1: the rise, I think. But they got to figure out

725
00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:09,400
Speaker 1: Zach Wilson and if he's not right, then it's just

726
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 1: gonna stay right where it is. Receiving word a huge

727
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:16,720
Speaker 1: huge trade. Um that took place doesn't involve the Patriots?

728
00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:20,000
Speaker 1: Yeah about it? Uh? T J Hawkinson going from the

729
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:24,480
Speaker 1: Lions to the Vikings. Um, so he will get them

730
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:27,960
Speaker 1: the rare opportunity to play as a non division game

731
00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:31,000
Speaker 1: against the Patriots twice. So share a huge deal with

732
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:34,200
Speaker 1: the Vikings sending twenty twenty three second rounder in a

733
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:41,280
Speaker 1: twenty twenty four fourth rounder for Hawkinson. Yes, yeah, so

734
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:46,920
Speaker 1: yeah they get Ah, this is kind of confusing. A

735
00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:51,080
Speaker 1: second rounder in a fourth rounder in exchange for Hawkinson. Uh,

736
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:53,960
Speaker 1: fourth rounder and a conditional fourth round. Well that's great

737
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:56,440
Speaker 1: because you know the Patriots don't really under defend tight ends.

738
00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:59,760
Speaker 1: So well, so wow, well here's the thing they did

739
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 1: to end him very well, they took him out of

740
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:06,000
Speaker 1: the game. Yeah. Um, but you're right. Pretty much every

741
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:08,799
Speaker 1: other tight end otherwise is it's a lot of other

742
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 1: problems from the Minnesota to worry about complimentary receivers, you

743
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:16,279
Speaker 1: might say, right, um, you know when IRF Smith has

744
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:18,840
Speaker 1: been decent for them too, Um, who I kind of

745
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:21,680
Speaker 1: liked out of that draft, he's been quiet. Do you

746
00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:24,359
Speaker 1: think I kind of like it's interesting, you know, so

747
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:29,320
Speaker 1: the Bears they trade away their linebacker for a second

748
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 1: round pick in a fifth Do you think the Lions like,

749
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:35,719
Speaker 1: look at that. We should be we should be doing

750
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:38,879
Speaker 1: things like that right now. I don't think. I don't think,

751
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:41,560
Speaker 1: you know, I think Hawkinson's a guy you should be

752
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:43,239
Speaker 1: trying to build around. Now. I don't know. Maybe he's

753
00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:45,320
Speaker 1: a pain in the ass. Maybe he's tired of the

754
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:49,360
Speaker 1: losing and he just wanted out, Like Roquan Smith, like

755
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:52,640
Speaker 1: like the Robert Quinn, the Robert Quinn one for Chicago

756
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:54,600
Speaker 1: makes all the sense in the world. He's a veteran guy.

757
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:57,480
Speaker 1: He's not really of much use for you. He's not

758
00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:00,880
Speaker 1: going to be really a viable part of your rebuild.

759
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:04,400
Speaker 1: But Roquan Smith could have been if you could have

760
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:06,840
Speaker 1: come together, And I think T. J. Hockinson could have

761
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:09,120
Speaker 1: been in Detroit. Those are a little bit different to me,

762
00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:12,240
Speaker 1: but that's a that's a big trade for the Vikings.

763
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:14,960
Speaker 1: Vikings of six and one, even though I know I

764
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:18,239
Speaker 1: think about this much and I have my fingers more

765
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:20,080
Speaker 1: of them than I do the Jets. I think they're

766
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:22,879
Speaker 1: extremely lucky every week, but there's six on one. Bottom line,

767
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:25,040
Speaker 1: I got talented number five spot in the Power rankings.

768
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:27,319
Speaker 1: I mean, I think that Roquan Smith move is good,

769
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:29,760
Speaker 1: good one for the Baltimore especially. I think you're Baltimore

770
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:32,240
Speaker 1: right now. You're looking like we're not quite Kansas City Buffalo,

771
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:34,120
Speaker 1: but you're right there, and you know, maybe you need

772
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:35,960
Speaker 1: somebody to deal with those two guys a little bit.

773
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:38,560
Speaker 1: That's a good move. So you know, our guy Elaine Poopa,

774
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:41,799
Speaker 1: who talks to us all the time for Miami, he

775
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:44,640
Speaker 1: had a funny tweet. He was like, you know, really

776
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:47,800
Speaker 1: really good work done by the scheduling department for Miami.

777
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:50,880
Speaker 1: They played Balton well before they got Roquan Smith, and

778
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:54,920
Speaker 1: they played Chicago after they traded Roquan. Funny those Chicago

779
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:57,719
Speaker 1: beats the Patriots and they're like, wep, that's it. We're

780
00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:02,439
Speaker 1: done down everybody. Not that it's neither hitting nor there.

781
00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:05,760
Speaker 1: I wonder if the Patriots unlocked something with Justin fields.

782
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:08,600
Speaker 1: I thought he looked better against Dallas than I've seen

783
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:12,160
Speaker 1: him last four or five games. He looks like he's

784
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:15,319
Speaker 1: sort of starting to piece some things together and show

785
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:17,520
Speaker 1: a little bit. His numbers are still terrible. I didn't

786
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:19,319
Speaker 1: did they run him a lot? I mean, that's what

787
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:20,879
Speaker 1: I said going into the game. Why aren't they given

788
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:22,880
Speaker 1: him the Lamar treatment? They gave him the Lamar treatment

789
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:25,319
Speaker 1: against US and they got Yeah. I don't know how

790
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:27,960
Speaker 1: much he ran by design because I didn't see the game,

791
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:31,440
Speaker 1: but I mean they scored twenty nine points. Yeah, so

792
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:34,480
Speaker 1: you know they got blasted. They lost forty nine twenty nine.

793
00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:36,880
Speaker 1: The game was never closed. But I think he was

794
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:39,359
Speaker 1: a little bit better in that game than he has

795
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:42,359
Speaker 1: been for the balance of the season. All Right, eight

796
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 1: five five past five hundred is the eighth Stiket hot line,

797
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:50,360
Speaker 1: Web Radio straight is the email address, and if anything

798
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:52,680
Speaker 1: else happens then you know the Trade Front will be

799
00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:56,520
Speaker 1: sure to mention that on the show. Um, four o'clock

800
00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:59,400
Speaker 1: is the deadline. So yeah, I wanted to get my

801
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:02,319
Speaker 1: notes up as block tonight. You might know if I

802
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:04,279
Speaker 1: wanted to get my my notes up as quickly as

803
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:06,200
Speaker 1: I possibly could, so people could read it before they

804
00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 1: actually made a trade and made it all a moot point.

805
00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:13,920
Speaker 1: Vic Carrucci says, Julius Peppers might be Mike. Mike, you

806
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:17,600
Speaker 1: probably don't get that. Uh, it wasn't trade for Peppers

807
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:20,319
Speaker 1: was imminent. He was actually on the show physically. Oh

808
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:23,920
Speaker 1: really Yeah, and he's like, I'm telling you yeah, and

809
00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:28,000
Speaker 1: it didn't happen. Uh, sources are wrong. U. Let's go

810
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:31,400
Speaker 1: to Anthony in Seattle. What's up? Anthony on the stickin

811
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:38,040
Speaker 1: Good Good Sure, Hey, I was calling because I got

812
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:43,000
Speaker 1: to say I'm loving the Andy Hart cameos on the show. Yeah,

813
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:46,160
Speaker 1: and it got me thinking, and so I was I

814
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:49,719
Speaker 1: was curious, So I called curious, a little bit of

815
00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:52,040
Speaker 1: a peek behind the curtain, if you if you would,

816
00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:55,279
Speaker 1: if you would, I was curious, though, how did it

817
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:58,200
Speaker 1: work with you guys in terms of Okay, you guys

818
00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:02,799
Speaker 1: are I guess you're media personalities or I'm not sure

819
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:06,080
Speaker 1: what your titles are. We literally work for the team,

820
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:10,439
Speaker 1: So don't you know you starting your week? Do you guys?

821
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:12,320
Speaker 1: Are you guys like just kind of paid a salary

822
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:14,640
Speaker 1: and then you get to like there's no money like

823
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:17,560
Speaker 1: self govern like, okay, I'm gonna make this many radio appearances,

824
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:19,719
Speaker 1: this many TV appearances or do you have like a

825
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:22,640
Speaker 1: quota that you like kind of got to meet each

826
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:25,760
Speaker 1: week and then like a situation like where like Andy,

827
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:27,480
Speaker 1: I assume it seemed like he was kind of just

828
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:29,799
Speaker 1: you guys saw him outside of the studio, you kind

829
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:31,840
Speaker 1: of just weighed him. All. That's all that was. Yeah,

830
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:36,759
Speaker 1: so real quick Anthony. Andy does a quick hit for

831
00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:42,359
Speaker 1: his actual job after the press conferences on Wednesdays. He

832
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:44,400
Speaker 1: works now for w EI, which is one of the

833
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:46,319
Speaker 1: all sports stations of Boston, one of the two all

834
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:49,640
Speaker 1: sports stations. So he comes into the radio studio. We

835
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:52,640
Speaker 1: have two separate radio studios in our area, so he

836
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:54,799
Speaker 1: comes in onto one of the radio studios, he does

837
00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:57,160
Speaker 1: a quick hit, and while he's here, we flag him

838
00:38:57,160 --> 00:38:58,600
Speaker 1: in and have him come on and do a segment

839
00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:01,719
Speaker 1: with us. That's all that is. Nothing that's scheduled or

840
00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:04,400
Speaker 1: anything like that. It just kind of happened. So something

841
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:06,920
Speaker 1: like that is that. And again I'm not trying to

842
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:12,160
Speaker 1: fry anything. I'm just get by us. No, No, he

843
00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:15,640
Speaker 1: has to pay us, right because we're actually helping his radio.

844
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:18,520
Speaker 1: He gets paid by w EI to do the spot

845
00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:21,040
Speaker 1: that he did, we have more listeners, so it helped that.

846
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:24,480
Speaker 1: It helped me. That's that's fact. So I'm guessing something

847
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:26,239
Speaker 1: like that. The thing that's in it for him is

848
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:31,160
Speaker 1: to continue to like just fun. Yeah, it's he enjoys it.

849
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:33,560
Speaker 1: It's just just for fun. Yeah, well friends like he

850
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:36,000
Speaker 1: wouldn't do like he if there was like three guys

851
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:38,640
Speaker 1: in here that he didn't know. I don't think he

852
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:41,440
Speaker 1: would like even look twice. Like a lot of times

853
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:43,560
Speaker 1: I'll be down here on Mondays when EI is in

854
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 1: the studio and I don't even look twice at them

855
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:48,200
Speaker 1: because I don't have any interest in joining them, right

856
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:49,960
Speaker 1: because I don't really you know, I'm not all that

857
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:53,600
Speaker 1: familiar with all these shows and personnel. Did he come on?

858
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:58,560
Speaker 1: Because mostly I was thinking more fun. Then I'm like

859
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:01,239
Speaker 1: somebody like me who I always loved Andy Howard part

860
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:03,520
Speaker 1: of this part of the show. I'm loving the cameos.

861
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:05,880
Speaker 1: I'm thinking, well, what's in it or what incentive does

862
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:07,480
Speaker 1: he have to come back and do that, you know,

863
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:10,120
Speaker 1: because it's been like what three times in six or

864
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:12,400
Speaker 1: eight games in the season, so it's like, oh, it's

865
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:15,120
Speaker 1: kind of nice, but it's just for fun, just having fun.

866
00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:18,360
Speaker 1: He's in the neighborhoods who stops by? Yeah, yeah, well

867
00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:21,680
Speaker 1: thank you guys, all right, thanks, Anthony Sausage gets made. Yeah,

868
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:24,000
Speaker 1: the scenes here, well, of course when I do my

869
00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:27,640
Speaker 1: freelance stuff. That's all go on. Williams and philam, what's up,

870
00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:30,600
Speaker 1: William How are you doing for it? What's going on?

871
00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:34,920
Speaker 1: All right? Doing? All right? All right? Uh? Question? Um

872
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:39,200
Speaker 1: the respective pictures to do something. I hear about all

873
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 1: the calls they're getting. But is they bring in somebody

874
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:46,480
Speaker 1: in the house. I doubt it. I think maybe they

875
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:50,600
Speaker 1: might ship, but like ship win for say a win,

876
00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:52,239
Speaker 1: but I don't know what you're gonna get for that

877
00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:57,160
Speaker 1: conditional seventh. No, I'm not talking about pigs play they think,

878
00:40:57,200 --> 00:41:01,480
Speaker 1: so yeah, unless they tried to get some offensive line reinforcements,

879
00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:03,520
Speaker 1: which is David Andrews being injured and some of the

880
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:06,560
Speaker 1: interior guys. I mean, well that's the thing. Like you

881
00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:11,200
Speaker 1: wonder how you know Belichick and Matt grow view the season.

882
00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:14,560
Speaker 1: Is it worth it to give up draft capital to

883
00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:17,479
Speaker 1: get a guy who you think can help you this year?

884
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:22,000
Speaker 1: You know? And that's why I kind of say, yeah,

885
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:24,560
Speaker 1: that's right. Like to Paul's point, it's like you need

886
00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:27,560
Speaker 1: an offensive guard. Well, you're gonna trade Isaiah Win away

887
00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:29,840
Speaker 1: and then bringing another tackle who you think is going

888
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:31,680
Speaker 1: to be better than that, which is fine if you do,

889
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:33,560
Speaker 1: like you want to a shuffle and chairs on the

890
00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:36,440
Speaker 1: done the Titan. And again if if the idea with

891
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:39,040
Speaker 1: moving Win is because you think he's a problem, and

892
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:41,640
Speaker 1: I have seen no evidence that he's a problem. But

893
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:45,359
Speaker 1: if he is, they know that the coaches understand what's

894
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:47,840
Speaker 1: going on, the dynamic they have, they might need a

895
00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:50,560
Speaker 1: that they might need to make a change you're not

896
00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:53,759
Speaker 1: going to have. Then you know, a fifth or sixth

897
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:56,000
Speaker 1: round is better than nothing. Yeah, I mean, especially because

898
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:57,279
Speaker 1: it was Reese too. I mean when I was reading

899
00:41:57,280 --> 00:41:59,719
Speaker 1: Reese's things, I'm imagining him do what he does and

900
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:02,480
Speaker 1: sking Isaiah Win those questions and Isaiah Win throwing the

901
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:05,600
Speaker 1: you know, throwing the window down like that. Just just

902
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:09,400
Speaker 1: just wanted to ask noope running to give him a

903
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:15,040
Speaker 1: little right. I don't know that that struck me my face,

904
00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:17,560
Speaker 1: you know. And again like just you come right in

905
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:20,160
Speaker 1: and your first play you just get absolutely walked right

906
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:22,680
Speaker 1: into the lap of the quarterback. It's just it's like

907
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:24,279
Speaker 1: it's how do you keep putting them out there. It

908
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:26,600
Speaker 1: was bad. And you know, France, I saw sixty five

909
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:30,640
Speaker 1: going sideways a couple of times and cold strange, you know,

910
00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:34,160
Speaker 1: it was they were having trouble. But those guys, especially

911
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:39,080
Speaker 1: inside like Quentnin Williams is a beast, and I'm just

912
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:41,160
Speaker 1: saying they better trouble. You better be ready for this

913
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:43,600
Speaker 1: week too, because now you have DeForest Buckner. But when

914
00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:46,120
Speaker 1: you when you're it's pretty good too. When your line

915
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:49,560
Speaker 1: is playing well and you play against guys like quinnin Williams,

916
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:52,160
Speaker 1: you figure it out. You figure out how to double team.

917
00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:53,880
Speaker 1: You figure out you got to be in sync. You know,

918
00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:56,080
Speaker 1: you gotta be inc you know, and you and you

919
00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:58,799
Speaker 1: manage it. You manage it. You know. The Patriots have

920
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:01,200
Speaker 1: been in the situation before where they've played against really

921
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:04,720
Speaker 1: good defensive lines, and you know, Scar would figure out, okay,

922
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:06,680
Speaker 1: this is how we're going to do that. And they're

923
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:09,320
Speaker 1: playing together and they you know, they don't win every battle,

924
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:11,480
Speaker 1: but they win the majority of them, or at least

925
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:15,719
Speaker 1: give the quarterback enough time to execute the play. Yeah.

926
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:18,440
Speaker 1: You know, um, well, I I connected to you know

927
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:20,600
Speaker 1: in at point of pause, which I think is you know,

928
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:23,360
Speaker 1: just an example of you know, a guy who's not

929
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:26,439
Speaker 1: like digging into PF numbers, but watching the games and

930
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:28,960
Speaker 1: seeing that, you know, David Andrews is a big help

931
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:31,040
Speaker 1: to col Strange and you know there's nothing wrong with

932
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:32,759
Speaker 1: that when they're playing well. I think the line all

933
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:35,440
Speaker 1: needs to play together. But we saw, Yeah, you lost

934
00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:38,160
Speaker 1: one guy in David Andrews, but you're really kind of

935
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:40,600
Speaker 1: lost too because now Cole Stranger is kind of on

936
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:42,839
Speaker 1: an island and you know needs a little bit more help.

937
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:45,040
Speaker 1: So you get to this point in the season, you're

938
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:48,160
Speaker 1: trying to find your identity and some cohesiveness, especially upfront

939
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:50,160
Speaker 1: where early on and you know it's out of sync

940
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:52,440
Speaker 1: a little bit, you're blowing coverages. I mean, we saw

941
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:54,080
Speaker 1: it this year. Guy's free runners. At least we're not

942
00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:55,680
Speaker 1: seeing free runners. I mean now the free runners are

943
00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:57,719
Speaker 1: just coming right through our tackles instead of you know,

944
00:43:57,800 --> 00:44:00,480
Speaker 1: not being blocked at all. But you know, I think

945
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:02,320
Speaker 1: that that's a big, big part of the element of it.

946
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:04,200
Speaker 1: We gotta you know, get David Andrews back in there,

947
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:06,080
Speaker 1: and you know, just I think this team needs to

948
00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:08,399
Speaker 1: really think about this offensive line this offseason and how

949
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:10,000
Speaker 1: to get that in order a great I mean, you

950
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:12,200
Speaker 1: get a guy like John Franklin Myers too. I was

951
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:14,239
Speaker 1: just looking up because I didn't remember like a fourth

952
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:19,520
Speaker 1: round pick in eighteen. Like that's that's a good that's

953
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:21,839
Speaker 1: a good draft pick. He's a good player. I mean,

954
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:23,920
Speaker 1: I'm not saying he's like Aaron Donalds or anything, but

955
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:29,120
Speaker 1: he's a good player. Let's go to Chris and Fort Lauderdale. Hey, Chris, Hey, guys,

956
00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:33,080
Speaker 1: how are you doing good? Yeah? I guess not anymore?

957
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:37,120
Speaker 1: Do you actually wish people happy? Holloway? I got like

958
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:40,120
Speaker 1: ten people last night in my house, the whole night. Really, Yeah,

959
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:41,960
Speaker 1: what are you gonna do with all the candy? Very

960
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:45,759
Speaker 1: low night? I I I didn't get anyone you know

961
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:48,080
Speaker 1: in our house. Because you don't you're not very welcome.

962
00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:50,760
Speaker 1: A very long road to get up. There's very welcoming.

963
00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:52,799
Speaker 1: Like I even forgot. I don't even think we had

964
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:54,640
Speaker 1: any candy in the house. I would have had to

965
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:57,359
Speaker 1: give him, like, you know, a soap and a string.

966
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:00,759
Speaker 1: Here's some pa, What do I do with this? Will

967
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:05,080
Speaker 1: you see? You'll never run? So sorry, Chris, we just hill.

968
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:09,319
Speaker 1: I'm glad no one got any watch McCalls this year. Yeah,

969
00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:16,319
Speaker 1: that's wrong. Um. I had a report for Fred and

970
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:19,719
Speaker 1: then a question for the group. Okay, Um, Fred. The

971
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:21,759
Speaker 1: other day I called in about you Guys being the

972
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:24,000
Speaker 1: original podcast and how my friends gave me a hard

973
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:27,160
Speaker 1: time about it, and a segment of the show for

974
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:31,239
Speaker 1: my friend and all taught and are actually big fans

975
00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:32,960
Speaker 1: of you guys because they thought you guys were hilarious.

976
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:35,520
Speaker 1: So that was kind of cool. Great for that nice.

977
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:38,480
Speaker 1: I know. Mike says like, I wonder how that's gonna go,

978
00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:41,040
Speaker 1: and it went really well. I didn't expect to, so

979
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:45,399
Speaker 1: UM the question, and I agree that asking um trying

980
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:47,719
Speaker 1: to trade for a piece like a wide receiver or

981
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:50,320
Speaker 1: you know, a big offensive piece doesn't seem worth it

982
00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:54,080
Speaker 1: this offseason or um this trade deadline. But is there

983
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:56,879
Speaker 1: worth in adding to the offensive line and is there

984
00:45:56,880 --> 00:45:59,200
Speaker 1: any way to make that happen? Um? That would be

985
00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:01,560
Speaker 1: my question, and they'll take off the air. I just

986
00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:04,759
Speaker 1: can't believe that, you know, any team that has a

987
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:07,880
Speaker 1: good tackle wants to get rid of right, you'd have

988
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:12,040
Speaker 1: to look at a bad to middling team that has

989
00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:15,719
Speaker 1: a good tackle that's contract is expiring. That's the only

990
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:18,279
Speaker 1: and I everything has to line up like yeah, and

991
00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:20,799
Speaker 1: you know, I'm not like, like, let's say, if there

992
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:24,200
Speaker 1: was like a Trent Williams on a bad team something

993
00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:26,440
Speaker 1: like that. You know, he's kind of always just grumbled,

994
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:29,839
Speaker 1: you know, but he's a big part of what they

995
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:32,640
Speaker 1: do now, so and he's not going anywhere. I wouldn't think.

996
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:35,400
Speaker 1: So that's what you need to look for. But I

997
00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:38,480
Speaker 1: don't know, I think it's and you gotta also have

998
00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:42,000
Speaker 1: a quarterback you don't like, because like you trade your

999
00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:44,680
Speaker 1: starting tackle midway through the season, and what is that

1000
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:47,520
Speaker 1: saying to your quarterback? Yeah, I know when I just

1001
00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:49,600
Speaker 1: I think this is a long term problem and something

1002
00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:51,600
Speaker 1: that they need to like get into place, and you're

1003
00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:53,960
Speaker 1: not going to get a long term fixed really. I mean,

1004
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:55,400
Speaker 1: you know, maybe you trade for a guy and then

1005
00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:57,640
Speaker 1: you extend them, but that just it seems like a

1006
00:46:57,680 --> 00:46:59,400
Speaker 1: lot I think. I mean, I think it's going to

1007
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:01,399
Speaker 1: be about the drest and you're really trying to find

1008
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:03,239
Speaker 1: some new tackles that that you know can be up

1009
00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:05,120
Speaker 1: and coming. I mean, even this, you know, kids Stuber

1010
00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:07,920
Speaker 1: next year, I'll be like on waiting with bated breath

1011
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:09,960
Speaker 1: to watch Andrews Stuber to come out of the tunnel

1012
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:13,759
Speaker 1: to be like anything anything, please, But yeah, Paul shakes

1013
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:16,640
Speaker 1: his head. That was a fair guy. This is not

1014
00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:19,160
Speaker 1: a YouTube show. I just know I didn't mean coming

1015
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:21,840
Speaker 1: back to some people. I don't think you don't know.

1016
00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:23,719
Speaker 1: I thought you were shaking your head as it saying

1017
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:25,399
Speaker 1: he's never going to be good. That that was. That's

1018
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:27,200
Speaker 1: what I was shaking my head at, because that's what

1019
00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:30,839
Speaker 1: I've been told. He's not like necessarily thought of as

1020
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:34,279
Speaker 1: a as a young prospect. Jason Hines they have some

1021
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:37,080
Speaker 1: hope for Yeah, all right, Well, although that was weird,

1022
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:39,839
Speaker 1: like you need it, you know, so you you lose

1023
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:44,400
Speaker 1: some a layer of depth at center, and Jason Hines

1024
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:48,960
Speaker 1: can play center and he's active every week. And all

1025
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:51,680
Speaker 1: of a sudden, you was David Andrews and David and

1026
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:54,680
Speaker 1: Jason Hines goes on IR right when Yadneyka just gets

1027
00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:56,960
Speaker 1: activated off I r and then you have to promote

1028
00:47:57,200 --> 00:48:00,279
Speaker 1: Cody Russy from the practice squad. But Russy, I don't

1029
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:06,160
Speaker 1: know if all right? That whole thing was weird. Yeah, timing,

1030
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:07,960
Speaker 1: it's always weird. Of those guys you haven't seen or

1031
00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:09,480
Speaker 1: hurt anything of all of a sudden end up on

1032
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:12,600
Speaker 1: an air, all right, lots of emails at web radio

1033
00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:15,200
Speaker 1: at Patriots dot com, so let's go to some of them.

1034
00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:18,239
Speaker 1: Jackson and Aubrey says, standing six five and having been

1035
00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:21,520
Speaker 1: one of the most athletic offensive linemen at the NFL combine,

1036
00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:24,600
Speaker 1: Cole Strange has both the length and the nimble feet

1037
00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:27,680
Speaker 1: to play right tackle. Why don't the Patriots try moving

1038
00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:31,080
Speaker 1: Strange to right tackle and moving Isaiah went to left guard.

1039
00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:33,640
Speaker 1: The results couldn't be worse than what we have been

1040
00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:37,120
Speaker 1: seeing so far this season. Something must be done. Yeah,

1041
00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:39,520
Speaker 1: I mean, I think again you're weakening two spots. I mean,

1042
00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:42,000
Speaker 1: I think he's a guard. He's played inside his whole.

1043
00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:44,080
Speaker 1: I mean he can play some center maybe, but I

1044
00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:45,920
Speaker 1: think you're just asking too much of him. Let him,

1045
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:48,759
Speaker 1: let him get settled left guard, and you know, get

1046
00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:51,480
Speaker 1: Andrews back in. He's been solid this year. I mean,

1047
00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:54,040
Speaker 1: he's a rookie, but I still think, you know, everybody

1048
00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:56,000
Speaker 1: who probably wants him to, you know, come right in

1049
00:48:56,040 --> 00:48:58,719
Speaker 1: and be perfect. He hasn't been that. But I still

1050
00:48:58,719 --> 00:49:00,759
Speaker 1: think that the arrow points up with him long term.

1051
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:02,279
Speaker 1: And I think between him and on, when you you've

1052
00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:04,759
Speaker 1: got two really good guards that are you know, a

1053
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:06,920
Speaker 1: kind of a complimentary pair with on when you be

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Speaker 1: in the road greater and you know, strange being really

1055
00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:13,080
Speaker 1: athletic and really snarly, which I love. He's gonna need

1056
00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:15,960
Speaker 1: some time. I think next year offseason, bulk him up

1057
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:17,560
Speaker 1: a little bit, get a little bit of weight on him.

1058
00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:18,960
Speaker 1: I think those are some of the problems he has

1059
00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:21,279
Speaker 1: handling some of that NFL power. He saw it against

1060
00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:23,680
Speaker 1: the Jets with those two guys who are just beasts, Yeah,

1061
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:27,799
Speaker 1: Addison and Fresno. Wright saying, I wanted to raise the

1062
00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:31,320
Speaker 1: point that the Patriots actually were better off for attempting

1063
00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:33,680
Speaker 1: both of the fourth downs than kicking two field goals

1064
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Speaker 1: in the red zone. Kicking two field goals with automat

1065
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Speaker 1: nick would have been would have given six points, and

1066
00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:42,640
Speaker 1: going for both fourth downs resulted in one touchdown, good

1067
00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:45,600
Speaker 1: for seven points. I personally wanted the Patriots to kick

1068
00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:48,840
Speaker 1: in both cases because you can beat the Patriots with

1069
00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:52,000
Speaker 1: your kicker. That said, the aggressive play did result in

1070
00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:55,359
Speaker 1: an extra point. Put me down for team zappy. If

1071
00:49:55,400 --> 00:50:01,960
Speaker 1: it'll help Paul's pedal growth, Paul Ken, your pole still grow? No,

1072
00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:07,880
Speaker 1: I think that's that's tapped out. What what did I miss? Nothing? Uh,

1073
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:09,880
Speaker 1: let's talk about cold strings. Somebody want to move Cole

1074
00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:13,040
Speaker 1: Strange a right tackle? Um, I said no after that game? No, no,

1075
00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:17,359
Speaker 1: thank you. H oh wow we get unvarnished deuce coming

1076
00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:20,359
Speaker 1: off the COVID fog. Yeah. I know. I'm just unleashed

1077
00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:22,400
Speaker 1: in my room. I got thoughts about the Patriots. I

1078
00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:25,160
Speaker 1: want to share them. Yeah. I wouldn't completely say never

1079
00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:27,359
Speaker 1: with cold Strange moving to tackle, but I don't think

1080
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Speaker 1: this is the time. No. I think he's struggling guard.

1081
00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:34,000
Speaker 1: That's like a next season thing. Maybe if you even

1082
00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:35,880
Speaker 1: think he can do it right, because you might need

1083
00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:39,400
Speaker 1: two tackles next year. Yeah. David writes in do you

1084
00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:42,200
Speaker 1: think the Patriots as a team have reached their potential

1085
00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:44,480
Speaker 1: for the season. It seems like they need to win

1086
00:50:44,520 --> 00:50:46,560
Speaker 1: a certain way and haven't figured out how to win

1087
00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:50,240
Speaker 1: games that don't follow a pattern. Based on the remaining schedule,

1088
00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:53,400
Speaker 1: will we see this team play better than expected or

1089
00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:58,040
Speaker 1: put together a complete game? Uh? I mean I'm not

1090
00:50:58,080 --> 00:51:00,319
Speaker 1: gonna say firmly yes or no. I mean I still

1091
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:02,480
Speaker 1: have some confidence. I mean I think in the defense,

1092
00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:04,560
Speaker 1: I think they're good defense. I'm not going to say

1093
00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:06,359
Speaker 1: that they're a great defense right now, but I think

1094
00:51:06,440 --> 00:51:08,880
Speaker 1: on any given night, save for a couple of teams,

1095
00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:11,440
Speaker 1: that defense can can keep you in games, which just

1096
00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:13,279
Speaker 1: about everybody. I mean, look at the parody in the

1097
00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:15,200
Speaker 1: league this year. I mean, is there really other than

1098
00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:17,279
Speaker 1: maybe four or five teams, any team that you don't

1099
00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:20,640
Speaker 1: think they got no shot against. I mean, there's only

1100
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:23,680
Speaker 1: a few good teams this year. Yeah, unfortunately many many

1101
00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:25,719
Speaker 1: of them are on the schedule of the second half.

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Speaker 1: But I think, you know, the Raiders, the Raiders look

1103
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:30,799
Speaker 1: a little bit different. The Cardinals look a little bit different. Yeah,

1104
00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:32,839
Speaker 1: I'd be curious to see with those two teams. See,

1105
00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:36,120
Speaker 1: I didn't think they look really especially the Cardinals. I'd

1106
00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:37,960
Speaker 1: be curious to see what those teams look like against

1107
00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:41,600
Speaker 1: the Patriots though, well, well it's Kyler Murray and the

1108
00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:44,560
Speaker 1: mobile quarterback stuff that that's been a big problem m

1109
00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:47,200
Speaker 1: But I still think it comes down to your game

1110
00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:49,960
Speaker 1: against the Jets, beating Miami again, how you know, I

1111
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:52,200
Speaker 1: don't like, I don't know, I don't know how much

1112
00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:54,960
Speaker 1: confidence you're gonna have in that beat Miami. Well, I

1113
00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:56,640
Speaker 1: think that's the step to take. I mean, I think

1114
00:51:56,680 --> 00:51:59,160
Speaker 1: that's the bar for me. I'm not really holding not

1115
00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:01,880
Speaker 1: hope much again Buffalo. But I think for the Patriots

1116
00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:04,080
Speaker 1: to like get out of this kind of funk that

1117
00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:06,319
Speaker 1: they've been in. I get the total point. I've made

1118
00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:08,360
Speaker 1: it a one hundred times myself that there's a formula

1119
00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:09,920
Speaker 1: for this team and that's how they kind of have

1120
00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:12,000
Speaker 1: to win. And yeah, last week in the second half

1121
00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:14,239
Speaker 1: it was on full display. But to get to that

1122
00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:16,200
Speaker 1: next point, you knock off Miami here at the end

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00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:18,680
Speaker 1: of the season. I think that that would be, you know,

1124
00:52:18,719 --> 00:52:20,480
Speaker 1: a nice step, whether the playoffs or in the mix

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00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:23,000
Speaker 1: or not. It would depend to me on what Miami

1126
00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:25,080
Speaker 1: looks like at the time. But if they look like

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00:52:25,120 --> 00:52:27,160
Speaker 1: they look right now, yeah, I would agree with everything

1128
00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:29,839
Speaker 1: Mike just said. But it's tough. It's tough. Are they

1129
00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:32,279
Speaker 1: won't look like that and you know, and we'll see

1130
00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:35,120
Speaker 1: that that's a long way off. Both teams won't look

1131
00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:36,840
Speaker 1: the same, you know, because they'll lose a lot of

1132
00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:38,839
Speaker 1: players between now and then. And that's the point. I mean,

1133
00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:41,080
Speaker 1: I know Evan Evan, I was texted with him this morning.

1134
00:52:41,080 --> 00:52:42,760
Speaker 1: I mean, he's all hot and bothered by them running

1135
00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:44,799
Speaker 1: our pos. I mean, to him, just them running our

1136
00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:47,600
Speaker 1: pos is like reset that the trajectory of like what

1137
00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:51,759
Speaker 1: they could possibly do. I'm not there yet, but I

1138
00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:53,560
Speaker 1: do just at least. I mean, how can it not

1139
00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:55,719
Speaker 1: get better this year? Like every year we've talked too.

1140
00:52:57,239 --> 00:52:59,680
Speaker 1: Thinks that's the key to unlockable. He well, he likes it.

1141
00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:01,680
Speaker 1: He just likes. I'm not saying it's the key to unluxus,

1142
00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:03,440
Speaker 1: but he likes that. He thinks they should do more

1143
00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:05,120
Speaker 1: of that kind of thing. I'll let him speak for

1144
00:53:05,200 --> 00:53:07,879
Speaker 1: himself tomorrow. I'm not gonna lie. I'm probably not gonna

1145
00:53:07,880 --> 00:53:13,319
Speaker 1: be paying attention that that's disrespectful. It's not disrespecting. Hangs

1146
00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:16,400
Speaker 1: on every one of your words, Paul. He doesn't. He

1147
00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:18,920
Speaker 1: doesn't have any respect whatsoever for any of the opinions

1148
00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:22,200
Speaker 1: I have. It's pretty clear. But anyway, oh wow, how

1149
00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:25,160
Speaker 1: did trash talk? It's just like going on because they

1150
00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:27,520
Speaker 1: all twenty two guys don't respect the guys that don't

1151
00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:29,960
Speaker 1: do that. It's it's pretty clear, like, let me tell

1152
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:32,279
Speaker 1: you why you're wrong. It's basically the mantra of all

1153
00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:35,319
Speaker 1: the guys that watch all twenty two like, but Dard like,

1154
00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:38,000
Speaker 1: and I like Greg. I like him personally. I get

1155
00:53:38,040 --> 00:53:40,160
Speaker 1: along with them very well. But he has to come

1156
00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:42,080
Speaker 1: on Twitter. You say and say, I was as surprised

1157
00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:45,120
Speaker 1: as you guys are. So another would you watch the

1158
00:53:45,160 --> 00:53:46,920
Speaker 1: game and thought one thing and then you go and

1159
00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:48,680
Speaker 1: do this all twenty two thing and you think something

1160
00:53:48,680 --> 00:53:55,120
Speaker 1: one hundred percent different. Yes, that's ridiculous. Well not necessarily, Paul.

1161
00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:58,279
Speaker 1: You're telling me that you watch a game and think

1162
00:53:58,280 --> 00:54:00,359
Speaker 1: a guy's awful, then you watch a game m again

1163
00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:02,520
Speaker 1: and you think the guy was great. That that can happen,

1164
00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:04,919
Speaker 1: I don't I don't ever remember him saying he was great.

1165
00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:07,160
Speaker 1: He said it was really good. No, yes, he did

1166
00:54:07,239 --> 00:54:09,239
Speaker 1: said it wasn't as bad as it looks. That's not

1167
00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:11,120
Speaker 1: what he said. And he said he was okay, he

1168
00:54:11,239 --> 00:54:13,840
Speaker 1: was actually really good. Yeah is what he said. I

1169
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:17,000
Speaker 1: don't know. And again I read it too. And then

1170
00:54:17,120 --> 00:54:18,480
Speaker 1: if you want, if you want to tell me that

1171
00:54:18,600 --> 00:54:21,400
Speaker 1: there was a play that you thought, you watched the

1172
00:54:21,640 --> 00:54:23,920
Speaker 1: replay and say, on second thought, I actually think he

1173
00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:26,800
Speaker 1: did the right thing and someone else. That's that's exactly

1174
00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:29,520
Speaker 1: that's holy possible. That's holy possible. That's what he was saying.

1175
00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:33,240
Speaker 1: That's not what he said. He actually said it about

1176
00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:36,920
Speaker 1: Jacoby Myers. He said that the pick looked more like

1177
00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:39,160
Speaker 1: it was on Jacoby Myers and that he didn't know.

1178
00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:42,120
Speaker 1: I read the whole thing. He doesn't know, He said

1179
00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:44,440
Speaker 1: that can I can? I disagree on that one too,

1180
00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:47,040
Speaker 1: I mean, I know, and he said, I think. And

1181
00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:49,480
Speaker 1: my view of it was that I thought Mac had

1182
00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:53,320
Speaker 1: Hunter Henry, like, no problem, easy completion. I thought to me,

1183
00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:55,560
Speaker 1: what potentially could have happened? And again I have no idea,

1184
00:54:55,880 --> 00:54:57,680
Speaker 1: but it seemed to me like Mac on the fly

1185
00:54:58,120 --> 00:55:00,440
Speaker 1: been like, oh, there's no one behind you, so that way,

1186
00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:03,280
Speaker 1: because it was wide open behind him. Um. I wondered

1187
00:55:03,320 --> 00:55:05,400
Speaker 1: if it was more Mac just trying to improvise and

1188
00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:07,480
Speaker 1: get Jacobe to improvise with him so that they couldn't

1189
00:55:07,560 --> 00:55:09,879
Speaker 1: nail the touchdown. But I thought he had Hunter Henry

1190
00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:12,240
Speaker 1: right away. I thought that was an easy, easy completion,

1191
00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:14,200
Speaker 1: just to Hunter Henry. And I don't know why everyone's

1192
00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:16,880
Speaker 1: overthinking it, and I don't know. I don't because I

1193
00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:19,359
Speaker 1: don't know, unlike everybody else that does this, I don't

1194
00:55:19,360 --> 00:55:20,800
Speaker 1: know what the play calls are and I don't know

1195
00:55:20,880 --> 00:55:23,000
Speaker 1: what is supposed to happen on every right because even

1196
00:55:23,080 --> 00:55:25,200
Speaker 1: the all twenty two people don't know that. But I

1197
00:55:25,239 --> 00:55:28,640
Speaker 1: can just tell you if Myers was supposed to go

1198
00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:33,000
Speaker 1: out on that play? Why was Michael Carter there to

1199
00:55:33,080 --> 00:55:36,640
Speaker 1: pick the ball off? What do you mean, oh, on

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00:55:36,719 --> 00:55:39,080
Speaker 1: this talking about the pick? On the pick okay, on

1201
00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:42,000
Speaker 1: the pick six? Why was Michael Carter? Because he thought

1202
00:55:42,040 --> 00:55:44,759
Speaker 1: he was going to go out too. He thought he

1203
00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:46,800
Speaker 1: was gonna go out too because the Myers picked the

1204
00:55:46,920 --> 00:55:49,160
Speaker 1: right leverage, you're saying to go the right way because

1205
00:55:49,200 --> 00:55:51,360
Speaker 1: he ran away from Again, I don't know. Yeah, I

1206
00:55:51,400 --> 00:55:54,320
Speaker 1: don't know what's supposed to though, But maybe that's just

1207
00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:58,080
Speaker 1: one of those They have a good coverage here and

1208
00:55:58,200 --> 00:56:00,000
Speaker 1: we're not going to throw it to Jacoby Myers because

1209
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:03,840
Speaker 1: they're sitting on it. I don't know. But everybody, I

1210
00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:07,120
Speaker 1: shouldn't say everybody. Some people have completely absolved a quarterback

1211
00:56:07,200 --> 00:56:09,640
Speaker 1: on that play and put it on Jacoby Myers. He's

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00:56:09,640 --> 00:56:12,279
Speaker 1: supposed to go out there, and I don't really understand why.

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00:56:12,320 --> 00:56:14,200
Speaker 1: If he's supposed to go out, there's a defender out

1214
00:56:14,239 --> 00:56:18,000
Speaker 1: there who picked the pass off. Right. Again, I don't

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Speaker 1: know because I don't know what the calls are and

1216
00:56:20,520 --> 00:56:23,120
Speaker 1: I don't pretend to try to figure it out. All right,

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Speaker 1: John Franklin myerstended on free sacks for the Jets. It's

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Speaker 1: with a strip a cock flood that's a hall of

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Speaker 1: the throw by Sap Wilson shot the staff to Matt.

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Speaker 1: He's in the pocket, throws down a little catch by

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Speaker 1: Stevens and comes to red a cock to forty two

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Speaker 1: along with Jordan's white head and they'll mark him at

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Speaker 1: the forty nine of New England. Jones and the gun

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Speaker 1: Stevens into his right. Matt takes a low staff backs

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Speaker 1: at four man lush hit as he throws that ball

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Speaker 1: cluttering in the air. He's gonna be picked off and

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Speaker 1: Michael Carter hasn't leaping for the Jets and coming down

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Speaker 1: at the twenty four of New York out of the

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Speaker 1: two minute warning. Fourth and one for the past from

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Speaker 1: the twenty one and they go shotgun with Matt Jones

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Speaker 1: joined by Damien Harris who has left two by two

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Speaker 1: set down ten three here on the second of staff

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Speaker 1: to Jones to give to Harrod. No fake to Harris

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Speaker 1: and throw by Jones left over shooting Jick Kobe Myers.

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Speaker 1: A treats with a good faith to Damian Harris's defense

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Speaker 1: collapsed out of him and Jones tried to feather it

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Speaker 1: out to Jacoby Myers incomplete. The Jets take over at

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Speaker 1: the twenty one. Zack Wilson with a drip bunch ruck

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Speaker 1: to receivers to the ridiculating burials in motion. The staff

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Speaker 1: and rows of Recla gets intercepted by by card how

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Speaker 1: a high ball. He picks it up and runs it

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Speaker 1: to the forty of New York. Oh my god, a

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Speaker 1: critical air by Zach Wilson. It's the worst, the worst

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Speaker 1: throw I'd seen whole year. Snap to Jones in the pocket,

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Speaker 1: looking luck throws its season goodbye, million side thirty five,

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Speaker 1: forty two midfield, down the right side of a third,

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Speaker 1: oh to the twenty to the ten under the end zone.

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Speaker 1: There is a crime trailing the interception by Carter Rudon

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Speaker 1: and it all the way back. Michael Carter was an

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Speaker 1: apparent pick six. So there is a tick that that

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Speaker 1: the thirty three s defense. John coming off the ball

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Speaker 1: ruff in the path and up there from the nine

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Speaker 1: to one forout. What a huge sway now the path

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Speaker 1: with the thirty angl right you love to give the

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Speaker 1: Romani Stevens here runs into the right side Rats. He

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Speaker 1: had pass the forty five off the hand h Field

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Speaker 1: found to the right to the forty to the thirty,

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Speaker 1: chased by Mosley and shoved down a bound Romandray Stevens

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Speaker 1: into the New York twenty seven. Now they've got a

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Speaker 1: fourth to one from the five. Jones again and the gun.

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Speaker 1: Myers to his left trips to the left, including Stevenson.

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Speaker 1: Myers motions to the right wing, snap loaded Jones. He

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Speaker 1: throws the right check over with the catch, first down,

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Speaker 1: four dive to the end zone, touchdown Patriots. Hey Gold's

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Speaker 1: woun have some stones on a road six point in

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Speaker 1: New England. Lead. It's a shorter high staff, it's a

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Speaker 1: pressure free fund pads kicks high looked short to the

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Speaker 1: forty returnable for Jones. He starts Jeff to mid three

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Speaker 1: Hope he runs to the forty five. Move here'side of

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Speaker 1: thirty by thirty parkas Jones tackle from behind. Try at

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Speaker 1: the twenty five three receivers near sideway, play fag a

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Speaker 1: bootleg to the life pulling up here Wilson looks got

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Speaker 1: feel chased by Judi side steps side and a single book.

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Speaker 1: Devin McCarty. He comes on her along the sideline. A

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Speaker 1: throw away by Wilson and a gift for the Patriots

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Speaker 1: to have it at the forty one and Beth Boy

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Speaker 1: Zach Wilson. He's pressure together, He's chased to the life.

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Speaker 1: Matt Wilson in pursuit. Now it dies quote us a

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Speaker 1: throw down fit second, the cars got another coming back

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Speaker 1: down the sideline of the forty, stepping out of bound

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Speaker 1: after his second pick of the day. Wilson has left

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Speaker 1: their pressure. Wilson is sacked by Lawrence god and looking

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Speaker 1: to have is gone. Wilson slack inside the tay coming

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Speaker 1: two overall pick out the draft here, you're married to

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Speaker 1: this guy. Ain't going quarterback, waits on the staff ad

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Speaker 1: he takes it. He dropped back with the four man washing.

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Speaker 1: He throws to the back of the ends up for

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Speaker 1: Cochlind wide open to touchdown for New York. The Jets

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Speaker 1: have made this a one score game with one fifty

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Speaker 1: one to go. Conflint second ted of the day, with

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Speaker 1: thirty two seconds to go in victory formation, he drops

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Speaker 1: to his knee and the Patriots, who won for a

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Speaker 1: in He's from Pennsylvania. Quick bullet points one, Sean, where

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Speaker 1: are you bad man? Yeah? One. I'm sure glad Belichick

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Speaker 1: didn't give up a second and fifth round pick for

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Speaker 1: Roquan Smith because I can't wait. Belichick used to that

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Speaker 1: second round pick for a special team player and fifth

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Speaker 1: round pick on a kicker. Oh boy, Um yeah, two,

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Speaker 1: you guys are not like that. Um, you guys are

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Speaker 1: not like that. You very objective on this subject. But

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Speaker 1: shows like the Greg Hill and Maz and Felger and

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Speaker 1: most fans are off the Mac Jones train. Look, Grogan

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Speaker 1: had his detractors and his interception before he won fans.

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Speaker 1: Drew had his Drew Drew had his boy the grammar here.

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Speaker 1: But Mac has played four games this year, Chicago game. Notwithstanding,

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Speaker 1: let Mac develop his main Let Mac develop. He has

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Speaker 1: no punctuation. His main handicap is having Bluto and Chet

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Speaker 1: from Weird Science as his coaches. I give him till

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Speaker 1: next year to see what he is. I have faith

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Speaker 1: in Mac. Okay whatever. Uh And he said, fred, I

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Speaker 1: hate this. Keep the silver pants at home until you go,

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Speaker 1: uh full throwbacks, full time, which is coming sooner than later. Well,

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Speaker 1: I think he was drinking when he wrote that. That

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Speaker 1: was a poorly written. Somebody sent me a helmet with

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Speaker 1: like it's like the white helmet with the old red

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Speaker 1: and white striping down the middle. But then the flying

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Speaker 1: Elvis on the sides. It was Yeah, I'd like to

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Speaker 1: see the mix. Yeah, I'd like to see that because

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Speaker 1: the Patriots still have an alternate jersey that they could use.

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Speaker 1: You know, you're allowed to have you know, your your

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Speaker 1: home in a way, you're allowed a throwback and you're

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Speaker 1: out and altered it. Oh what let's go, let's can

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Speaker 1: we So you're saying that the table is there if

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Speaker 1: they wanted to put a new jersey into rotique, should

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Speaker 1: do it. You could do it, and not one that

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Speaker 1: you're talking about. Helmet. Yeah, yeah, well that would be

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Speaker 1: a third helmet. Well it's the same helmet, it's just

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Speaker 1: got a different decal. Yeah, well it's a it's like

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Speaker 1: you can mix the two. Yeah. You probably already have

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Speaker 1: the stickers. You don't even need to buy anything new,

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Speaker 1: right spray painting weight? Yeah, I see. Um someone in

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Speaker 1: the Bay Area glad Patriots got to win against the Jets.

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Speaker 1: Part of me the thought the street could end prior

1448
01:09:32,880 --> 01:09:35,080
Speaker 1: to the game. It may very well have ended if

1449
01:09:35,120 --> 01:09:38,360
Speaker 1: the roughing the pass a penalty didn't negate the Patriots

1450
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Speaker 1: jet picks the Jets pick six. That's what we all said. Anyway,

1451
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Speaker 1: who are the five best players of the team right now.

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01:09:44,320 --> 01:09:46,040
Speaker 1: If I had to rank them, I would say one

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01:09:46,200 --> 01:09:51,440
Speaker 1: Jude On to Stevenson, three Myers, four Dugger and five mccordy.

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Speaker 1: I don't know the four and five spots. Took me

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Speaker 1: a while to think of. Uh, i'd be different. I'm

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Speaker 1: with you on the top two. I'd probably put teatrich

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Speaker 1: Wise in there. I don't think. I don't think mccordy's

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Speaker 1: in there. Um, in terms of the way he's played

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Speaker 1: this year, I would agree that that Wise would be four. Yeah, Um,

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Speaker 1: I like Myers in there. Yeah, I like Myers at three.

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Speaker 1: I would have Wives four, and I would probably Nicko. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I mean we're just talking about how they're playing this year.

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Speaker 1: I mean I have just really scored sixteen year twenty two.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Dugger's fine, He's up and down, he's down,

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Speaker 1: He's in and out of the lineup with injuries. I

1466
01:10:30,160 --> 01:10:32,720
Speaker 1: think the tight end problems have been existing with him

1467
01:10:32,800 --> 01:10:36,599
Speaker 1: in the lineup and with him out of the lineup. Yeah,

1468
01:10:36,640 --> 01:10:38,760
Speaker 1: you'd like to see Barmore in that list, but he's

1469
01:10:38,800 --> 01:10:41,200
Speaker 1: not right now. I don't think he's played great this year,

1470
01:10:41,240 --> 01:10:42,760
Speaker 1: but I do think he was playing better when he

1471
01:10:42,800 --> 01:10:46,439
Speaker 1: got hurt. Unfortunately, Yeah he was. Uh, Mike, you're so

1472
01:10:46,640 --> 01:10:50,960
Speaker 1: right about Matt Shenanigans. If Brian burns leg pull the

1473
01:10:51,040 --> 01:10:53,479
Speaker 1: sliding with the cleats up, the fake injury stuff has

1474
01:10:53,520 --> 01:10:56,080
Speaker 1: to go. We need Mac the man, not Mac the

1475
01:10:56,160 --> 01:10:59,960
Speaker 1: young boy in the modeling picture with tennis racket. Hey, Matt,

1476
01:11:00,160 --> 01:11:02,800
Speaker 1: grow up and stuff. Our team needs to look up

1477
01:11:02,840 --> 01:11:05,679
Speaker 1: and see a leader. Enough with the petulants. The Zappie

1478
01:11:05,720 --> 01:11:08,759
Speaker 1: train in my heart has got a little cold cooking

1479
01:11:09,160 --> 01:11:12,240
Speaker 1: on the engine. Still engine. Yeah, that was, you know,

1480
01:11:12,320 --> 01:11:13,800
Speaker 1: coming out of the game. I was kind of just

1481
01:11:14,439 --> 01:11:17,040
Speaker 1: on Mac for for reasons we've talked about, but but

1482
01:11:17,200 --> 01:11:20,479
Speaker 1: that that stuff. I just play the game, you know,

1483
01:11:20,600 --> 01:11:23,840
Speaker 1: don't don't try to get calls, don't try to do

1484
01:11:23,960 --> 01:11:27,120
Speaker 1: little little tricky things like I remember play the game.

1485
01:11:27,760 --> 01:11:30,840
Speaker 1: I think it was the Monday night cam Newton COVID

1486
01:11:30,960 --> 01:11:35,720
Speaker 1: game in Kansas City that Mahomes kind of tried to

1487
01:11:35,840 --> 01:11:38,760
Speaker 1: buy a call out of bounds like that. Then I

1488
01:11:38,840 --> 01:11:41,160
Speaker 1: was like that, that's he's too good for that, right.

1489
01:11:41,360 --> 01:11:42,920
Speaker 1: I was like, you don't need that like that. I don't.

1490
01:11:42,920 --> 01:11:44,640
Speaker 1: I don't shouldn't have to do that. You should be

1491
01:11:44,720 --> 01:11:46,320
Speaker 1: able to say that we got out here and we

1492
01:11:46,439 --> 01:11:49,840
Speaker 1: execute what we think we can do, will win. Not man,

1493
01:11:49,880 --> 01:11:51,559
Speaker 1: we could really I mean, and I mean I guess

1494
01:11:51,600 --> 01:11:53,639
Speaker 1: in a way I get it, Like you're you sure, dude,

1495
01:11:53,880 --> 01:11:56,800
Speaker 1: you know the idea of looking for every little edge

1496
01:11:56,840 --> 01:11:59,280
Speaker 1: you can get. No, not on the way he's doing it. No, No,

1497
01:11:59,360 --> 01:12:00,720
Speaker 1: I hated when he did it and he was the

1498
01:12:00,760 --> 01:12:03,439
Speaker 1: greatest quarterback, saying like he used to do it, and

1499
01:12:03,520 --> 01:12:06,479
Speaker 1: it looks to me so calculating, like the one where

1500
01:12:06,640 --> 01:12:08,400
Speaker 1: we were talking about where it seemed like he was

1501
01:12:08,479 --> 01:12:11,640
Speaker 1: literally knocked out for like a half a second and

1502
01:12:11,760 --> 01:12:14,640
Speaker 1: then and then he pops up and he runs like

1503
01:12:14,800 --> 01:12:19,040
Speaker 1: he's great to like offset any potential? Was he really hurt?

1504
01:12:19,479 --> 01:12:21,240
Speaker 1: It's and the same thing when he was going on

1505
01:12:21,360 --> 01:12:23,559
Speaker 1: to bounce, like he kind of pauses for a second,

1506
01:12:23,680 --> 01:12:26,880
Speaker 1: like just focus on making the plays. And I'm probably

1507
01:12:26,960 --> 01:12:28,680
Speaker 1: not as bothered by it as Mike is, but I

1508
01:12:28,800 --> 01:12:31,720
Speaker 1: love the rant. But I would also wonder if some

1509
01:12:31,880 --> 01:12:33,280
Speaker 1: of this, like you said it was kid, you used

1510
01:12:33,280 --> 01:12:36,840
Speaker 1: the word calculated, And I'm wondering if maybe go back

1511
01:12:36,960 --> 01:12:40,000
Speaker 1: to this whole how this whole thing started. And he's

1512
01:12:40,080 --> 01:12:44,080
Speaker 1: like I'm hell bent on showing everybody how damn tough

1513
01:12:44,160 --> 01:12:47,160
Speaker 1: I am. You know, So I'm gonna go down, but

1514
01:12:47,240 --> 01:12:50,040
Speaker 1: I'm gonna pop up and exaggeratedly run back like there's

1515
01:12:50,120 --> 01:12:53,280
Speaker 1: nothing wrong with me. You can't hurt me, Like I

1516
01:12:53,600 --> 01:12:56,240
Speaker 1: don't need that. You your teammates know what you are.

1517
01:12:56,320 --> 01:12:58,320
Speaker 1: What do you care what anybody else thinks? Well, Joe

1518
01:12:58,400 --> 01:13:02,080
Speaker 1: Burrow said it last night pregame. He said that one

1519
01:13:02,120 --> 01:13:04,000
Speaker 1: of the things that he looked at was when Brady

1520
01:13:04,120 --> 01:13:06,400
Speaker 1: got hit in two thousand and two or three, I

1521
01:13:06,479 --> 01:13:09,200
Speaker 1: think against the Bills, when he got his helmet knocked off,

1522
01:13:09,240 --> 01:13:11,120
Speaker 1: and he was a kid watching that. He goes, That's

1523
01:13:11,160 --> 01:13:13,240
Speaker 1: how I want to be. Heck, yeah, I don't want

1524
01:13:13,280 --> 01:13:15,320
Speaker 1: to stay down. I want to get right back up right.

1525
01:13:15,520 --> 01:13:17,760
Speaker 1: And that's and I know it's just it's part of

1526
01:13:17,760 --> 01:13:20,880
Speaker 1: your team's dynamic. You know, it's your team dynamic of

1527
01:13:21,040 --> 01:13:22,519
Speaker 1: we believe in us, we can do what we have

1528
01:13:22,600 --> 01:13:24,320
Speaker 1: to do. And that sends a message to me of

1529
01:13:24,439 --> 01:13:26,680
Speaker 1: like we kind of need to get some calls, like

1530
01:13:26,800 --> 01:13:28,880
Speaker 1: I really could really could benefit if I got a

1531
01:13:28,920 --> 01:13:31,000
Speaker 1: fifteen yard or right now and that would help us score.

1532
01:13:31,080 --> 01:13:33,560
Speaker 1: Like and it hasn't like I can't come up with

1533
01:13:33,880 --> 01:13:36,519
Speaker 1: other examples off the top of my head, but there's

1534
01:13:36,520 --> 01:13:39,400
Speaker 1: been other of this kind. It was like the day

1535
01:13:39,439 --> 01:13:42,200
Speaker 1: after Christmas last year the Buffalo game, when there was

1536
01:13:42,280 --> 01:13:45,840
Speaker 1: like did he get hit? Did he not? David Andrews

1537
01:13:45,920 --> 01:13:47,800
Speaker 1: came over and got really upset about it. Remember it

1538
01:13:47,920 --> 01:13:48,840
Speaker 1: was I think it was at the end of the

1539
01:13:48,920 --> 01:13:51,880
Speaker 1: first half. He was completely trying to sell a call

1540
01:13:52,560 --> 01:13:54,519
Speaker 1: and it might have been you know, in this like

1541
01:13:55,120 --> 01:13:57,960
Speaker 1: we talked about that's the problem. Is this so inconsistent

1542
01:13:58,040 --> 01:14:01,280
Speaker 1: with these calls. Maybe it was a call, maybe it

1543
01:14:01,320 --> 01:14:03,840
Speaker 1: should have been a penalty, maybe it wasn't. But the

1544
01:14:04,040 --> 01:14:07,639
Speaker 1: hue and cry like, oh I gotta get that call

1545
01:14:07,760 --> 01:14:11,800
Speaker 1: every time, And I mean, I I don't know, I

1546
01:14:11,880 --> 01:14:14,720
Speaker 1: just don't. I don't like it. Maybe maybe that's what

1547
01:14:14,840 --> 01:14:17,439
Speaker 1: they all do, you know, because yeah, Fred's right, they

1548
01:14:17,520 --> 01:14:19,599
Speaker 1: Brady used to do it all the time. I remember

1549
01:14:19,600 --> 01:14:21,439
Speaker 1: all the time. I remember Bill, this is years ago.

1550
01:14:21,960 --> 01:14:24,760
Speaker 1: He was on the sideline coaching, and I forget what

1551
01:14:24,960 --> 01:14:27,000
Speaker 1: team we were playing. It might have been the time,

1552
01:14:27,040 --> 01:14:30,240
Speaker 1: I forget, but anyway, one of their players got knocked

1553
01:14:30,240 --> 01:14:34,360
Speaker 1: out of bounds on our sideline and Bill like immediately

1554
01:14:34,439 --> 01:14:36,720
Speaker 1: stepped in front of the guy so it would take

1555
01:14:36,800 --> 01:14:38,800
Speaker 1: him an extra second to get back on the field,

1556
01:14:38,800 --> 01:14:41,240
Speaker 1: and I was like, wow, he thinks of everything. He

1557
01:14:41,360 --> 01:14:44,120
Speaker 1: thinks of everything, Like what did he do? The play

1558
01:14:44,240 --> 01:14:46,280
Speaker 1: was going on, the guy gets knocked out out of

1559
01:14:46,360 --> 01:14:49,400
Speaker 1: bounds on our sideline and Bill stepped in front of

1560
01:14:49,479 --> 01:14:51,679
Speaker 1: him so he couldn't get back on the field right away.

1561
01:14:52,360 --> 01:14:56,760
Speaker 1: It was like it was like, I was like, wow,

1562
01:14:57,040 --> 01:15:00,320
Speaker 1: he thinks of everything. You know, just said extra second

1563
01:15:00,360 --> 01:15:03,040
Speaker 1: could make a difference. Yeah, I just like, I don't

1564
01:15:03,040 --> 01:15:04,920
Speaker 1: know if it's all different. I don't say anything. I

1565
01:15:05,000 --> 01:15:08,200
Speaker 1: don't know. I'm embarrassed by that. I I this stuff,

1566
01:15:08,320 --> 01:15:10,599
Speaker 1: and like I said, the Brian Burns stuff last year,

1567
01:15:10,600 --> 01:15:12,080
Speaker 1: I was kind of like, Oh, it's a rookie. He's

1568
01:15:12,080 --> 01:15:13,920
Speaker 1: just in a pile. He doesn't really know the first

1569
01:15:13,960 --> 01:15:18,240
Speaker 1: time something happened. You can, but when people start over again.

1570
01:15:18,280 --> 01:15:19,760
Speaker 1: Am I gonna be watching this for ten years? Max,

1571
01:15:19,880 --> 01:15:22,240
Speaker 1: I'll tell you used to get and I can't believe

1572
01:15:22,240 --> 01:15:24,559
Speaker 1: it didn't get more attraction. It did live. I thought

1573
01:15:24,600 --> 01:15:27,479
Speaker 1: he kicked the guy in the nuts against Chicago on purpose,

1574
01:15:28,080 --> 01:15:30,719
Speaker 1: and I said it in the prices like that was dirty.

1575
01:15:31,120 --> 01:15:35,280
Speaker 1: Like I it just kind of like flew under the radar.

1576
01:15:35,400 --> 01:15:37,679
Speaker 1: No one really talked about it because of the mess

1577
01:15:37,840 --> 01:15:42,000
Speaker 1: that ended up ensuing with with Zappie and Mac. Well,

1578
01:15:42,040 --> 01:15:45,639
Speaker 1: what about the philosophy or the mindset. I'm gonna slide

1579
01:15:45,680 --> 01:15:47,240
Speaker 1: and if you're gonna jump on me, you're gonna get

1580
01:15:47,280 --> 01:15:49,320
Speaker 1: a cleat in the face he was jumping over him. No,

1581
01:15:49,400 --> 01:15:51,360
Speaker 1: I know, but like I'm putting my foot up to

1582
01:15:51,600 --> 01:15:54,200
Speaker 1: keep you from hitting me when it's like a safety

1583
01:15:54,280 --> 01:15:56,680
Speaker 1: issue to me, and I don't have anything. I'm just

1584
01:15:56,760 --> 01:15:59,120
Speaker 1: saying that that might be his mindset. I just want

1585
01:15:59,160 --> 01:16:01,920
Speaker 1: the mindset of I'm I'm gonna get play my ass

1586
01:16:02,000 --> 01:16:04,160
Speaker 1: off and I'm gonna beat people with with my play

1587
01:16:04,240 --> 01:16:06,960
Speaker 1: and not because you wouldn't have liked thy cos No,

1588
01:16:08,280 --> 01:16:11,160
Speaker 1: what did thy Corda used to like? He used to

1589
01:16:11,200 --> 01:16:14,000
Speaker 1: like jump in the air and spike guys, spike. I

1590
01:16:14,040 --> 01:16:17,160
Speaker 1: mean this is war. I mean, who knows there's pictures

1591
01:16:17,200 --> 01:16:21,439
Speaker 1: of it? Yeah I didn't know. Yeah, Um, just just

1592
01:16:21,760 --> 01:16:23,720
Speaker 1: listen to a game with Bob Costas. He'll tell you

1593
01:16:23,800 --> 01:16:26,760
Speaker 1: all about it, like on the radio back in the day,

1594
01:16:26,880 --> 01:16:30,559
Speaker 1: or um a sicket hot line five five past five hundred.

1595
01:16:30,960 --> 01:16:34,920
Speaker 1: Let's go to Brandon in Oregon. What's up, Brandon? Hey,

1596
01:16:35,000 --> 01:16:38,960
Speaker 1: what's going on you? Hey, I was just wondering you

1597
01:16:39,000 --> 01:16:42,559
Speaker 1: guys may have covered this already, but the trade deadlines today, right, Yeah,

1598
01:16:43,120 --> 01:16:46,519
Speaker 1: four o'clock. Give me your guys. The top three guys

1599
01:16:46,560 --> 01:16:49,559
Speaker 1: do you think get moved? Well, we don't think anybody will,

1600
01:16:49,600 --> 01:16:51,559
Speaker 1: but if they do, we think Win is number one.

1601
01:16:51,640 --> 01:16:55,080
Speaker 1: Agalore is could be one. But Paul makes a good point.

1602
01:16:55,120 --> 01:16:57,240
Speaker 1: Why would you trade any of your receivers right now?

1603
01:16:57,560 --> 01:16:59,160
Speaker 1: You know you don't eat them all, you need them all,

1604
01:16:59,200 --> 01:17:01,720
Speaker 1: and you potentially could you know, Yeah, I wouldn't. I

1605
01:17:01,760 --> 01:17:04,320
Speaker 1: would have been with Freddie. Um. Win would be probably

1606
01:17:04,400 --> 01:17:09,760
Speaker 1: my number one mine. Yeah, I mean odds anyone on

1607
01:17:09,800 --> 01:17:11,880
Speaker 1: the defensive side of the ball, or I would say

1608
01:17:11,960 --> 01:17:16,120
Speaker 1: when and then born? Um anyone we acquire on the

1609
01:17:16,439 --> 01:17:19,679
Speaker 1: on the defense. I mean, you know, like you look, okay,

1610
01:17:19,760 --> 01:17:21,960
Speaker 1: where are they deep safety? But they've used all those

1611
01:17:22,000 --> 01:17:25,320
Speaker 1: safe you know, Dugger's been in and out. Peppers got

1612
01:17:25,400 --> 01:17:27,479
Speaker 1: hurt a little bit. I could see if Dugger was

1613
01:17:27,560 --> 01:17:30,280
Speaker 1: playing great and those top three were just kind of solidified,

1614
01:17:30,320 --> 01:17:32,320
Speaker 1: and Peppers was kind of chomping at the bit behind

1615
01:17:32,400 --> 01:17:35,640
Speaker 1: the scenes. He's getting healthy after last offseason that you know,

1616
01:17:35,720 --> 01:17:38,040
Speaker 1: maybe he has some kind of interest around the league.

1617
01:17:38,040 --> 01:17:39,320
Speaker 1: As a guy who can do a bunch of things,

1618
01:17:39,360 --> 01:17:42,320
Speaker 1: return punts, play special team, he would maybe he would

1619
01:17:42,360 --> 01:17:44,240
Speaker 1: be three. But I agree with you, guys, and this

1620
01:17:44,280 --> 01:17:45,800
Speaker 1: is what I like. I said, this is what I

1621
01:17:45,880 --> 01:17:48,000
Speaker 1: wrote in the notes today, like I wouldn't trade any

1622
01:17:48,040 --> 01:17:51,599
Speaker 1: of them, but maybe when born Peppers, if a team

1623
01:17:51,640 --> 01:17:53,439
Speaker 1: wanted to give you a two for Zappie, would you

1624
01:17:53,520 --> 01:17:57,559
Speaker 1: do it in a heartbeat? I think you even got

1625
01:17:57,640 --> 01:18:01,080
Speaker 1: Brandon to laugh. He could fall. I think Fred's here

1626
01:18:01,120 --> 01:18:04,040
Speaker 1: to see if I can have a heart attack. Thanks Brandon,

1627
01:18:05,520 --> 01:18:09,840
Speaker 1: Let's go to Brad and the Eastern Shore. Brad. Hey,

1628
01:18:09,920 --> 01:18:13,360
Speaker 1: happy Tuesday, guys. Hey you're feeling better, mister douth, Thanks

1629
01:18:13,360 --> 01:18:18,120
Speaker 1: appreciate it. I watched the entire game, as I have

1630
01:18:18,360 --> 01:18:27,439
Speaker 1: for forty years. Um, nothing seems smooth when Mac is

1631
01:18:27,479 --> 01:18:31,000
Speaker 1: on the field this year, and that's the only way

1632
01:18:31,040 --> 01:18:32,639
Speaker 1: I can say it. I said it to my dad

1633
01:18:34,120 --> 01:18:35,800
Speaker 1: last week at the beginning of the game, since he

1634
01:18:35,880 --> 01:18:39,479
Speaker 1: was able to watch it on Monday Night's football. Nothing

1635
01:18:39,680 --> 01:18:44,439
Speaker 1: is smooth, and I just don't understand how we can

1636
01:18:44,560 --> 01:18:47,639
Speaker 1: just go week after week and it just doesn't change.

1637
01:18:47,640 --> 01:18:49,760
Speaker 1: I think du said that he's looking for something to

1638
01:18:49,880 --> 01:18:52,720
Speaker 1: move the needle and we're just stuck in neutral. But

1639
01:18:52,880 --> 01:18:57,560
Speaker 1: it's the smoothness. Everything is jerky. Everything is a grinds.

1640
01:18:57,760 --> 01:19:00,000
Speaker 1: I say, it's a grind. Everything's a grind with the office,

1641
01:19:00,000 --> 01:19:02,200
Speaker 1: And I mean it's like four point two yards of play,

1642
01:19:02,640 --> 01:19:05,479
Speaker 1: and that's what you know, four yards four yards. I mean,

1643
01:19:05,560 --> 01:19:09,120
Speaker 1: it's just it's it's I mean they have they've had

1644
01:19:09,160 --> 01:19:11,040
Speaker 1: some plays here and there. I mean Stevenson has made

1645
01:19:11,080 --> 01:19:13,120
Speaker 1: the most of them. But I agree they got to

1646
01:19:13,120 --> 01:19:16,639
Speaker 1: find a rhythm with that really plays designed the place

1647
01:19:16,760 --> 01:19:18,519
Speaker 1: that he made. Yep, you know that's a good way

1648
01:19:18,520 --> 01:19:22,800
Speaker 1: to put it, you know. Yeah, if we didn't have Remandre,

1649
01:19:23,800 --> 01:19:26,000
Speaker 1: who I was so thrilled Fred when I came down

1650
01:19:26,040 --> 01:19:28,080
Speaker 1: and met you in Atlanta last year. I got to

1651
01:19:28,200 --> 01:19:30,240
Speaker 1: stop him on the street and talk to him for

1652
01:19:30,640 --> 01:19:34,320
Speaker 1: about five minute. If we didn't have Remandra, right now,

1653
01:19:34,680 --> 01:19:36,760
Speaker 1: I don't know where this team would be. And as

1654
01:19:36,840 --> 01:19:39,599
Speaker 1: hard as as much as Paul is cringing right now

1655
01:19:39,760 --> 01:19:42,280
Speaker 1: talking about a running back being the debut of a team,

1656
01:19:42,840 --> 01:19:45,320
Speaker 1: I honestly don't know where we'd be without him. On offense,

1657
01:19:45,400 --> 01:19:49,840
Speaker 1: you'd be four and four, boy, I don't see. How

1658
01:19:49,920 --> 01:19:51,960
Speaker 1: do you think it won that game without reminder Stevenson

1659
01:19:52,000 --> 01:19:54,679
Speaker 1: they had yet two days ago. Yep, because I'm assuming

1660
01:19:54,720 --> 01:19:57,160
Speaker 1: everything happened the other way. Did everything happened the same

1661
01:19:57,200 --> 01:19:59,439
Speaker 1: way because you took over in field goal range enough

1662
01:19:59,479 --> 01:20:01,920
Speaker 1: times to win game? And if and I don't think

1663
01:20:01,960 --> 01:20:04,760
Speaker 1: Fromondre Stevenson had anything to do with all the picks, No,

1664
01:20:05,240 --> 01:20:07,080
Speaker 1: I don't. I mean, I mean, I just think that

1665
01:20:07,080 --> 01:20:10,200
Speaker 1: there's also a psychological level of making no player. I'm

1666
01:20:10,240 --> 01:20:13,240
Speaker 1: not taking anything away from Stevenson's effort in the game,

1667
01:20:14,280 --> 01:20:17,200
Speaker 1: but I think they would have won the game. I

1668
01:20:17,320 --> 01:20:23,320
Speaker 1: think Stevenson right now, they'd be they'd be two and six, okay,

1669
01:20:23,360 --> 01:20:28,160
Speaker 1: because I think they'd be four and four. He has

1670
01:20:28,479 --> 01:20:31,200
Speaker 1: single handedly carried that team down the field on a

1671
01:20:31,360 --> 01:20:35,400
Speaker 1: number of occasions. He's been great. Hasn't done that many

1672
01:20:35,439 --> 01:20:37,439
Speaker 1: times because they don't go down the field very many times.

1673
01:20:37,720 --> 01:20:40,760
Speaker 1: I like Stevenson. I love Stevenson. I think he's the

1674
01:20:40,840 --> 01:20:43,599
Speaker 1: best player on the team. I think it's illustrating how

1675
01:20:44,320 --> 01:20:47,439
Speaker 1: much trouble I think they're in. Yeah, all right, Brad,

1676
01:20:47,560 --> 01:20:51,120
Speaker 1: thank you. And by the way, I read Brad's father's blog,

1677
01:20:51,360 --> 01:20:55,000
Speaker 1: and his father's blog said, you know that nothing is

1678
01:20:55,360 --> 01:20:58,080
Speaker 1: smooth with Mac Jones, according to a source, So now

1679
01:20:58,160 --> 01:21:00,559
Speaker 1: I know who the source was with bradis his dad's

1680
01:21:00,560 --> 01:21:03,439
Speaker 1: gonna blog? I'm only kidding. Oh that was pretty good.

1681
01:21:04,680 --> 01:21:06,960
Speaker 1: That's like two shows in a row. You got me, John,

1682
01:21:07,000 --> 01:21:09,000
Speaker 1: You got there with the Tony Robbins thing last week.

1683
01:21:09,280 --> 01:21:14,760
Speaker 1: John at Duxbury. What's up, John, gentleman? How are you? John? Hey? John? Yeah?

1684
01:21:15,080 --> 01:21:16,920
Speaker 1: I want you. I want to talk about the Jets game.

1685
01:21:16,960 --> 01:21:19,160
Speaker 1: But please tell me what team is stupid enough to

1686
01:21:19,240 --> 01:21:22,200
Speaker 1: give up anything to have win. I don't think you

1687
01:21:22,280 --> 01:21:25,240
Speaker 1: can find any team well to find anything. But here's

1688
01:21:25,280 --> 01:21:28,479
Speaker 1: the thing. You know, you know when was the first

1689
01:21:28,560 --> 01:21:31,200
Speaker 1: round pick, he was obviously a good player, you know

1690
01:21:31,280 --> 01:21:35,439
Speaker 1: in Georgia and right, and you have these teams, and

1691
01:21:35,520 --> 01:21:37,760
Speaker 1: the Patriots are one of them. Were like, we'll take

1692
01:21:37,840 --> 01:21:40,000
Speaker 1: that guy and we'll make them. I would say that

1693
01:21:40,240 --> 01:21:42,800
Speaker 1: there's a lot of that mindset and a team that's

1694
01:21:42,880 --> 01:21:45,960
Speaker 1: really struggling on the offensive line. You know, I would

1695
01:21:46,160 --> 01:21:49,080
Speaker 1: are like the Patriots, but like like like the Raiders

1696
01:21:49,880 --> 01:21:54,200
Speaker 1: or like the Bengals, why wouldn't they say, you know,

1697
01:21:54,520 --> 01:21:57,080
Speaker 1: we'll give you a conditional six. I think the Raiders

1698
01:21:57,160 --> 01:21:58,679
Speaker 1: is a great one. They already took just in harun

1699
01:21:58,720 --> 01:22:01,160
Speaker 1: and then he got hurt. So when just now, I

1700
01:22:01,200 --> 01:22:03,759
Speaker 1: mean Fred's you know, I know, Fred was was poking

1701
01:22:03,800 --> 01:22:05,040
Speaker 1: the bear a little bit to try to get a

1702
01:22:05,120 --> 01:22:06,439
Speaker 1: rise out of me. I don't think they're gonna get

1703
01:22:06,439 --> 01:22:08,840
Speaker 1: a first or second round pick or anything, but you know,

1704
01:22:09,000 --> 01:22:10,519
Speaker 1: you could, You'll get a late you could get a

1705
01:22:10,600 --> 01:22:13,760
Speaker 1: late round pick for him. Condition I'd be surprised. And

1706
01:22:13,960 --> 01:22:15,840
Speaker 1: I want to give a thumbs up to a one

1707
01:22:15,880 --> 01:22:18,559
Speaker 1: who I think he was the only one that didn't

1708
01:22:18,560 --> 01:22:21,360
Speaker 1: give up a stack against the Jets. I don't think

1709
01:22:21,400 --> 01:22:23,479
Speaker 1: he gave up a pressure either. Yeah, that's actually not

1710
01:22:23,560 --> 01:22:25,760
Speaker 1: how you pronounced it anymore too. Yeah, I don't believe

1711
01:22:26,280 --> 01:22:28,519
Speaker 1: that sound. I don't know. It was the most particular

1712
01:22:28,640 --> 01:22:31,320
Speaker 1: wing ever. They pronounced it about six different ways during

1713
01:22:31,360 --> 01:22:33,599
Speaker 1: the game, and then they told everybody that we've been pronouncing.

1714
01:22:33,720 --> 01:22:36,120
Speaker 1: They were like chuckling to themselves like it's actually on one,

1715
01:22:36,880 --> 01:22:43,839
Speaker 1: you know what, Like it's some weird like they protected

1716
01:22:43,920 --> 01:22:47,840
Speaker 1: they like ignored the end altogether. Like we say, when

1717
01:22:47,920 --> 01:22:50,400
Speaker 1: you it's already been established, this is established law here

1718
01:22:50,720 --> 01:22:54,640
Speaker 1: here three we're probably we're probably doing it wrong. But

1719
01:22:54,720 --> 01:22:56,120
Speaker 1: by the time we need to learn. He won't be

1720
01:22:56,160 --> 01:23:00,200
Speaker 1: a Patriot anymore anyway. So it's Chandler Jones handling shit.

1721
01:23:00,280 --> 01:23:03,439
Speaker 1: That's only la Garrett Blount, those are all you problem.

1722
01:23:05,120 --> 01:23:09,040
Speaker 1: Eldred's in North Carolina. Hey Eldred, Hey fellas like y'all

1723
01:23:09,080 --> 01:23:14,240
Speaker 1: doing today? Hey, pol won't apologize done to the post

1724
01:23:14,320 --> 01:23:17,760
Speaker 1: game A pre game I said the joke wrong. The

1725
01:23:17,920 --> 01:23:21,120
Speaker 1: joke was, could we trade could we get a sucker

1726
01:23:21,200 --> 01:23:24,639
Speaker 1: round for office court data? An office line? Coach? Oh

1727
01:23:24,720 --> 01:23:28,519
Speaker 1: just was killing the Patriots right now, you know, because

1728
01:23:28,800 --> 01:23:32,800
Speaker 1: you can't do both. You can't be collar and then

1729
01:23:32,920 --> 01:23:35,479
Speaker 1: coach officers line, and you're getting beat like it every week.

1730
01:23:35,840 --> 01:23:38,280
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be you ain't straightened up to line, you

1731
01:23:38,320 --> 01:23:40,679
Speaker 1: ain't doing it. I'm gonna be suck up Pollie again, Fred?

1732
01:23:40,760 --> 01:23:47,800
Speaker 1: You ready? Yeah? The guign because how do you think

1733
01:23:47,880 --> 01:23:50,280
Speaker 1: the offensive line like they had a really bad first

1734
01:23:50,280 --> 01:23:52,439
Speaker 1: game against Miami, and how do you think it was

1735
01:23:52,520 --> 01:23:54,479
Speaker 1: like the next day five weeks started to get a

1736
01:23:54,520 --> 01:23:57,280
Speaker 1: little better. It was okay, right yeah, and then you

1737
01:23:57,400 --> 01:24:00,040
Speaker 1: look then you then you lose some personnel and you

1738
01:24:00,120 --> 01:24:02,800
Speaker 1: have a really bad game against the Jets. Okay. And

1739
01:24:02,920 --> 01:24:05,879
Speaker 1: the reason I say this is it wasn't Matt Patricia

1740
01:24:05,960 --> 01:24:08,880
Speaker 1: who decided to trade or lose two of his starting

1741
01:24:08,920 --> 01:24:11,320
Speaker 1: offensive lineman, And it wasn't Matt Patricia's fault that a

1742
01:24:11,439 --> 01:24:14,080
Speaker 1: third one went down with injuries. So basically the line

1743
01:24:14,080 --> 01:24:18,000
Speaker 1: that you had last year was without three starters on

1744
01:24:18,200 --> 01:24:24,080
Speaker 1: Sunday Shack Mason, Ted Carris and David Andrews. It Also,

1745
01:24:24,720 --> 01:24:27,680
Speaker 1: I don't think was Matt Patricia's idea to switch your

1746
01:24:27,720 --> 01:24:32,000
Speaker 1: tackles from right to left. That's okay. So the offensive

1747
01:24:32,040 --> 01:24:35,599
Speaker 1: line is having some problems right now. They're injury related

1748
01:24:35,680 --> 01:24:39,800
Speaker 1: and their personnel related, for sure. I'm like, is that

1749
01:24:39,920 --> 01:24:42,479
Speaker 1: Matt Patricia's fault? Like, I know, I come off as

1750
01:24:42,520 --> 01:24:46,320
Speaker 1: a suck up. I'm more concerned about different things than that.

1751
01:24:46,840 --> 01:24:49,400
Speaker 1: I mean, I go back. I'm also concerned about to

1752
01:24:49,439 --> 01:24:52,200
Speaker 1: play Colin and like Matt like he just like he

1753
01:24:52,320 --> 01:24:54,920
Speaker 1: just scared to death. He's got taken to all the reas.

1754
01:24:55,120 --> 01:24:57,840
Speaker 1: So I'm looking at Yeah, I worry more about the

1755
01:24:57,920 --> 01:25:00,640
Speaker 1: quarterback then I do who's calling the plays, and I

1756
01:25:00,760 --> 01:25:05,559
Speaker 1: worry more about the the I guess just the confidence

1757
01:25:05,640 --> 01:25:08,080
Speaker 1: level in the quarterback. I was really shook by the

1758
01:25:08,640 --> 01:25:11,400
Speaker 1: sequence of events after the pick six that was overturned.

1759
01:25:11,960 --> 01:25:14,559
Speaker 1: I was like, I was like, we can't. You can't

1760
01:25:14,640 --> 01:25:18,160
Speaker 1: play like that. Like, so the next play after the

1761
01:25:18,200 --> 01:25:20,200
Speaker 1: pick six, they ran the ball down inside the five

1762
01:25:20,240 --> 01:25:22,200
Speaker 1: and go call back for a Cole strange holding call

1763
01:25:22,280 --> 01:25:25,000
Speaker 1: by the way, um so it ended up setting up

1764
01:25:25,360 --> 01:25:33,160
Speaker 1: a long yard and situation dive dive, kneel on the ball, Like,

1765
01:25:33,439 --> 01:25:35,679
Speaker 1: what are we doing with with with two time outs?

1766
01:25:36,479 --> 01:25:38,559
Speaker 1: What are we doing We're not even trying to score

1767
01:25:38,560 --> 01:25:41,800
Speaker 1: a touchdown. I think they were shook. I think they

1768
01:25:41,840 --> 01:25:43,479
Speaker 1: were like, let's just take the three. They weren't. They

1769
01:25:43,479 --> 01:25:45,200
Speaker 1: weren't as shook as I was. And we'll get the

1770
01:25:45,280 --> 01:25:48,360
Speaker 1: ball to start the second. But are you better off, like,

1771
01:25:48,960 --> 01:25:51,200
Speaker 1: like for the betterment of Mac Jones, aren't you better

1772
01:25:51,280 --> 01:25:54,200
Speaker 1: off trying to figure out what what you know? What

1773
01:25:54,280 --> 01:25:57,840
Speaker 1: can he do? Well? Maybe in that moment they saw

1774
01:25:57,960 --> 01:26:00,880
Speaker 1: something I don't know, you know, like Key was rattled

1775
01:26:00,920 --> 01:26:03,280
Speaker 1: a little. I don't know. I just think it's a

1776
01:26:03,320 --> 01:26:05,759
Speaker 1: stark contrast too with like, and I know that different

1777
01:26:05,800 --> 01:26:08,160
Speaker 1: offenses and all that when in different defenses, but like,

1778
01:26:08,280 --> 01:26:11,360
Speaker 1: you know, when Zappie went in, like it looked functional,

1779
01:26:11,479 --> 01:26:13,360
Speaker 1: like in a way that I don't think it's looked

1780
01:26:13,360 --> 01:26:15,640
Speaker 1: functional with Mac. Now is that on them and the

1781
01:26:15,760 --> 01:26:18,439
Speaker 1: offenses and the play calls that they're doing. I don't know,

1782
01:26:18,479 --> 01:26:20,400
Speaker 1: but at least shows me that somewhere in there there's

1783
01:26:20,400 --> 01:26:22,680
Speaker 1: a functional offense that looks like the one I had

1784
01:26:22,800 --> 01:26:25,720
Speaker 1: my whole rant about. Like some guys, some guys just

1785
01:26:25,800 --> 01:26:27,960
Speaker 1: get breaks. Some guys, you know, through no fault to

1786
01:26:28,040 --> 01:26:32,680
Speaker 1: their own, things happen, good fortune follows them. I think

1787
01:26:32,720 --> 01:26:36,160
Speaker 1: this is an example of it. Everybody you know just said,

1788
01:26:36,280 --> 01:26:42,920
Speaker 1: you know, it's Detroit, Cleveland, Chicago, stiff, stiff, stiff, except

1789
01:26:43,000 --> 01:26:45,280
Speaker 1: for one of those three stiffs had the third ranked

1790
01:26:45,360 --> 01:26:48,640
Speaker 1: past defense in football, Chicago. That's what Matt got to

1791
01:26:48,680 --> 01:26:53,040
Speaker 1: start against. Followed by the Jets. Yeah. Oh, I don't

1792
01:26:53,080 --> 01:26:55,280
Speaker 1: care what anyone says. That's a good defense. I watched

1793
01:26:55,320 --> 01:26:58,639
Speaker 1: them on Sunday. That was good defense. I think. Listen,

1794
01:27:00,320 --> 01:27:02,960
Speaker 1: I'm not like telling you Mac Jones is the next star,

1795
01:27:03,040 --> 01:27:05,160
Speaker 1: because you guys know, I don't think that. But I

1796
01:27:05,280 --> 01:27:08,120
Speaker 1: think if Bailey Zapp he played on Sunday, it would

1797
01:27:08,120 --> 01:27:10,519
Speaker 1: have been similar. It could have been double digit sacks

1798
01:27:10,880 --> 01:27:13,840
Speaker 1: in four or five turnovers. Yeah, because I think Mac

1799
01:27:14,080 --> 01:27:17,559
Speaker 1: made you know, a lot of good plays to avoid

1800
01:27:18,160 --> 01:27:22,200
Speaker 1: disasters now, Paul in the dark camp. Yeah, but I

1801
01:27:22,280 --> 01:27:23,960
Speaker 1: didn't tell I didn't tell you that I saw. I

1802
01:27:24,040 --> 01:27:26,400
Speaker 1: thought he was a disaster. When I watched the game,

1803
01:27:27,040 --> 01:27:29,559
Speaker 1: I saw the third down conversions, and we talked about

1804
01:27:29,560 --> 01:27:31,280
Speaker 1: this in the post game. I'm a little hurt that

1805
01:27:31,320 --> 01:27:32,920
Speaker 1: you didn't listen to the post game, but that's okay.

1806
01:27:34,320 --> 01:27:37,799
Speaker 1: We talked about the third down conversions. Now they completely

1807
01:27:37,840 --> 01:27:41,280
Speaker 1: went away. Where I cut ties with the pro offense

1808
01:27:41,360 --> 01:27:44,000
Speaker 1: crowd is somehow there's this notion that they got it

1809
01:27:44,080 --> 01:27:47,360
Speaker 1: all together at the half and came out it got

1810
01:27:47,439 --> 01:27:50,160
Speaker 1: worse in the second half. They didn't convert any third

1811
01:27:50,200 --> 01:27:52,880
Speaker 1: downs in the second half. I think they were six

1812
01:27:52,960 --> 01:27:54,680
Speaker 1: for nineteen in the game, and I think all of

1813
01:27:54,720 --> 01:27:57,559
Speaker 1: them came in the first half. They had one hundred

1814
01:27:57,560 --> 01:27:59,760
Speaker 1: and twenty yards of offense in the second half, and

1815
01:28:00,000 --> 01:28:03,080
Speaker 1: that was despite taking over constantly on the jet side

1816
01:28:03,080 --> 01:28:05,519
Speaker 1: of the field. The only reason why they scored points

1817
01:28:05,600 --> 01:28:07,040
Speaker 1: is because of the way they were getting the ball.

1818
01:28:07,280 --> 01:28:08,920
Speaker 1: If they had gotten the ball at their own twenty

1819
01:28:08,960 --> 01:28:12,160
Speaker 1: would have had more yards because they didn't have the opportunity. No,

1820
01:28:12,520 --> 01:28:15,479
Speaker 1: they were going three and out. Every possession of they

1821
01:28:15,520 --> 01:28:17,479
Speaker 1: would have lost. If they took over on their own

1822
01:28:17,520 --> 01:28:20,840
Speaker 1: twenty This is what I'm talking like. They Mac Jones

1823
01:28:20,920 --> 01:28:24,080
Speaker 1: faced a much much more difficult task on Sunday than

1824
01:28:24,160 --> 01:28:27,479
Speaker 1: Bailey's Appy did in Cleveland. Oh Yeah, Ford and Savannah

1825
01:28:27,520 --> 01:28:32,040
Speaker 1: Georgia Hello World, original podcast, Hello Back. You are also

1826
01:28:32,080 --> 01:28:35,640
Speaker 1: the world's best podcast, hands down. Thank you. Do you

1827
01:28:35,760 --> 01:28:38,519
Speaker 1: think max sophomore slump is a direct result of line

1828
01:28:38,600 --> 01:28:40,960
Speaker 1: play from this in last year. I saw him take

1829
01:28:41,000 --> 01:28:43,479
Speaker 1: a lot of hits last year like a champ, but

1830
01:28:43,640 --> 01:28:46,599
Speaker 1: unfortunately they have continued this year, leading to two injuries.

1831
01:28:46,960 --> 01:28:49,800
Speaker 1: My fears he is the making of a baby David

1832
01:28:49,920 --> 01:28:53,479
Speaker 1: car scenario. Ps Belichick through the Bears game to get

1833
01:28:53,560 --> 01:28:56,080
Speaker 1: a historic win against the Jets. I have a source

1834
01:28:56,160 --> 01:28:59,800
Speaker 1: in the building. Since anyone can say that now, well,

1835
01:29:00,640 --> 01:29:03,920
Speaker 1: uh yeah, he's just not seeing it. He doesn't look comfortable.

1836
01:29:04,000 --> 01:29:08,000
Speaker 1: I don't know where to h no. And I mean

1837
01:29:08,040 --> 01:29:10,920
Speaker 1: if you get pounded on, eventually, it's on the trust issue.

1838
01:29:10,920 --> 01:29:13,360
Speaker 1: And when you see guys get beat you know, I mean,

1839
01:29:13,439 --> 01:29:15,880
Speaker 1: it's one thing to have a mental lapse and you

1840
01:29:15,960 --> 01:29:18,519
Speaker 1: allow a free rusher to come in those things. You know,

1841
01:29:18,640 --> 01:29:21,479
Speaker 1: all right, that's a miscommunication. But when your guys are

1842
01:29:21,520 --> 01:29:26,880
Speaker 1: just physically getting dominated. It's a lot more disconcerting to say, hey,

1843
01:29:26,960 --> 01:29:29,280
Speaker 1: we can clean up when we just made a mental error.

1844
01:29:29,320 --> 01:29:32,280
Speaker 1: But when you just simply can't compete physically with certain

1845
01:29:32,320 --> 01:29:34,479
Speaker 1: guys off the edge. I mean that's you know, especially

1846
01:29:34,520 --> 01:29:36,479
Speaker 1: where that's where you got guys screaming in. I mean,

1847
01:29:36,560 --> 01:29:38,760
Speaker 1: it's off his blind side. I get it, I get

1848
01:29:38,840 --> 01:29:41,320
Speaker 1: I just would like to see Mac have a little

1849
01:29:41,360 --> 01:29:44,760
Speaker 1: bit more. Um. I don't think patience is the right word,

1850
01:29:44,840 --> 01:29:48,120
Speaker 1: but having a little bit more pocket awareness to step up,

1851
01:29:48,200 --> 01:29:52,040
Speaker 1: make a little shuttle subtle shuttle, little subtle shift here

1852
01:29:52,120 --> 01:29:54,639
Speaker 1: to your right, find a guy and deliver the ball

1853
01:29:54,720 --> 01:29:57,360
Speaker 1: and not you know, the second the pocket breaks down,

1854
01:29:57,439 --> 01:30:00,360
Speaker 1: be looking to get out or panicking. One thing, I

1855
01:30:00,520 --> 01:30:02,320
Speaker 1: was thinking about what he said. You know, at the

1856
01:30:02,600 --> 01:30:06,320
Speaker 1: you know, when Big Daniels left, everybody was, you know, wondering,

1857
01:30:06,400 --> 01:30:08,600
Speaker 1: oh will they bring in Bill O'Brien, And it seemed like,

1858
01:30:08,800 --> 01:30:11,720
Speaker 1: you know, there was this courtesy to the out to

1859
01:30:11,920 --> 01:30:13,800
Speaker 1: sabing that you know, I'm not going to pick him

1860
01:30:13,840 --> 01:30:15,800
Speaker 1: off right now, but do you think that you know,

1861
01:30:15,880 --> 01:30:18,920
Speaker 1: Patricia is just a placeholder until O'Brien comes next year.

1862
01:30:19,080 --> 01:30:21,200
Speaker 1: I think about that friend, I mean I think about

1863
01:30:21,200 --> 01:30:23,640
Speaker 1: all those positions because I think, do you bring in

1864
01:30:23,680 --> 01:30:25,880
Speaker 1: an offensive line coach? You know, do you do you say, hey,

1865
01:30:25,920 --> 01:30:27,920
Speaker 1: you know, we're gonna take something off Patricius. You don't

1866
01:30:27,960 --> 01:30:29,800
Speaker 1: bring in Bill O'Brien. Instead, you bring in a you know,

1867
01:30:29,880 --> 01:30:32,160
Speaker 1: another offensive line coach to take some of that off

1868
01:30:32,200 --> 01:30:34,880
Speaker 1: of his plate. You know, do you round out the

1869
01:30:34,960 --> 01:30:37,280
Speaker 1: staff in that with the offensive staff in that way?

1870
01:30:38,040 --> 01:30:39,800
Speaker 1: But I think it's a fair question, and then you know,

1871
01:30:39,880 --> 01:30:42,160
Speaker 1: it's an acknowledgement of it. Did it not work in

1872
01:30:42,200 --> 01:30:44,599
Speaker 1: twenty twenty two? Is that why you're making these changes now?

1873
01:30:44,720 --> 01:30:47,519
Speaker 1: Did was that a poorly executed plan or a poorly

1874
01:30:47,600 --> 01:30:50,559
Speaker 1: you know plan plan? Um? I don't know. I guess

1875
01:30:50,560 --> 01:30:52,000
Speaker 1: we're gonna have to see, you know, kind of where

1876
01:30:52,040 --> 01:30:53,439
Speaker 1: things end up. But it's like the bar is so

1877
01:30:53,600 --> 01:30:56,080
Speaker 1: low right now with this offense that like it's not

1878
01:30:56,240 --> 01:30:59,320
Speaker 1: hard for them to look maybe a little bit more

1879
01:30:59,360 --> 01:31:01,400
Speaker 1: than competent at the end of the year and say,

1880
01:31:01,600 --> 01:31:03,920
Speaker 1: all right, well they got better, it got better. They

1881
01:31:03,960 --> 01:31:05,960
Speaker 1: look like they're on I actually think that there's been

1882
01:31:06,040 --> 01:31:08,600
Speaker 1: signs that the offensive line, I mean, I'm sorry, the

1883
01:31:08,680 --> 01:31:12,600
Speaker 1: offensive play calling situation has improved. I think they're I'm

1884
01:31:12,680 --> 01:31:15,360
Speaker 1: always going to complain about individual calls. I think they've

1885
01:31:15,439 --> 01:31:19,040
Speaker 1: grown way too reliant on that third and long draw

1886
01:31:19,120 --> 01:31:23,960
Speaker 1: because it worked once, okay as an example, but it

1887
01:31:24,040 --> 01:31:27,479
Speaker 1: ain't a penalty if they don't call it. Right the

1888
01:31:27,600 --> 01:31:31,200
Speaker 1: fourth and one from the five good play design. You're

1889
01:31:31,240 --> 01:31:34,760
Speaker 1: gonna get Hunter Henry to block Sas Gardner in the

1890
01:31:34,840 --> 01:31:37,400
Speaker 1: end zone so Jacoby Myers can leak into the flat.

1891
01:31:37,640 --> 01:31:40,840
Speaker 1: It ain't a penalty if they don't call it. Same

1892
01:31:40,920 --> 01:31:43,240
Speaker 1: thing with one of the third down conversions on a

1893
01:31:43,320 --> 01:31:45,920
Speaker 1: third and long in the first half, shallow crossed by

1894
01:31:46,040 --> 01:31:51,400
Speaker 1: Jacoby Myers right into Hunter Henry in Vermandre Stevenson, who

1895
01:31:51,439 --> 01:31:53,840
Speaker 1: are already engaged in blocking because they were in his zone.

1896
01:31:54,120 --> 01:31:55,840
Speaker 1: The Jets played a ton of zone in that game,

1897
01:31:56,120 --> 01:31:59,759
Speaker 1: and they're already engaged as blockers. That's good play design,

1898
01:32:00,080 --> 01:32:02,519
Speaker 1: like that's that's good good play calling. You know you're

1899
01:32:02,560 --> 01:32:04,400
Speaker 1: not going to be able to drop back on third

1900
01:32:04,439 --> 01:32:08,200
Speaker 1: and eleven against that rush and find a guy breaking

1901
01:32:08,320 --> 01:32:11,040
Speaker 1: seventeen yards down field for a first down. You got

1902
01:32:11,160 --> 01:32:14,559
Speaker 1: to throw some underneath in. You know, Jona Smith had

1903
01:32:14,920 --> 01:32:17,679
Speaker 1: had some yards after the catch to convert one. Myers

1904
01:32:17,760 --> 01:32:21,600
Speaker 1: did a couple of times. Um, I'm not telling you

1905
01:32:21,680 --> 01:32:23,679
Speaker 1: it's been great. I don't like it. I still don't

1906
01:32:23,720 --> 01:32:25,720
Speaker 1: like what they're doing. I think they made it hard

1907
01:32:25,760 --> 01:32:29,559
Speaker 1: on themselves intentionally, just like the whole like yanking Mac

1908
01:32:29,640 --> 01:32:32,080
Speaker 1: Jones out of the game Monday night, created something on

1909
01:32:32,200 --> 01:32:35,160
Speaker 1: their own. But I do think there are signs that

1910
01:32:35,560 --> 01:32:38,840
Speaker 1: things that have gotten better in some of those operational situations.

1911
01:32:38,960 --> 01:32:43,000
Speaker 1: All right, optimistic Paul, because I can be fair about it.

1912
01:32:43,120 --> 01:32:46,120
Speaker 1: Back to the A stick of the line five hundred

1913
01:32:46,479 --> 01:32:48,960
Speaker 1: Chris with a T, I A N. What's that Christian?

1914
01:32:50,320 --> 01:32:53,160
Speaker 1: Hey guys, Um, I think I've been listening to the

1915
01:32:53,200 --> 01:32:55,400
Speaker 1: show long enough for I can say with confidence, says

1916
01:32:55,479 --> 01:33:00,519
Speaker 1: Brad's call and then falls response about if they have him,

1917
01:33:02,439 --> 01:33:04,679
Speaker 1: And two weeks from now or maybe even like tomorrow,

1918
01:33:05,120 --> 01:33:10,479
Speaker 1: somebody will call an email and say, oh yeah, instantly

1919
01:33:11,000 --> 01:33:15,920
Speaker 1: playing like Grand Theft Auto. I'll tell you, I'll tell

1920
01:33:15,920 --> 01:33:19,000
Speaker 1: you what it will be, Christian. Someone will go on

1921
01:33:19,120 --> 01:33:23,600
Speaker 1: Twitter and tweet Ramadre Stevenson and say that I was

1922
01:33:24,400 --> 01:33:27,280
Speaker 1: I said he was irrelevant when I said no, you

1923
01:33:27,320 --> 01:33:29,880
Speaker 1: know at PFW, Paul said that you had nothing to

1924
01:33:29,960 --> 01:33:31,320
Speaker 1: do with any of the wins, which is not what,

1925
01:33:31,640 --> 01:33:33,719
Speaker 1: which is not at all what I said. But someone

1926
01:33:33,760 --> 01:33:35,439
Speaker 1: will do that on Twitter because that's what they do.

1927
01:33:35,720 --> 01:33:39,400
Speaker 1: That's what they do on Twitter. Elon Musk Twitter. Now, yeah,

1928
01:33:39,439 --> 01:33:41,679
Speaker 1: maybe things will change now that you have an adult

1929
01:33:41,760 --> 01:33:43,720
Speaker 1: in the room. But we'll see. I think it's gonna be.

1930
01:33:43,920 --> 01:33:48,040
Speaker 1: Everything's okay now, Jeremy Fowler's reporting the Patriots do not

1931
01:33:48,200 --> 01:33:52,280
Speaker 1: plan to move Isaiah Wynn. Oh. So there it is.

1932
01:33:52,479 --> 01:33:56,120
Speaker 1: So i'd expect him. It is so, I'll see that

1933
01:33:56,200 --> 01:33:57,920
Speaker 1: one for off air, but I would expect him to

1934
01:33:57,960 --> 01:34:00,360
Speaker 1: be very much in play by the four o'clock trade deadline.

1935
01:34:00,439 --> 01:34:03,160
Speaker 1: Did you just say that, Wow, you don't put much

1936
01:34:03,240 --> 01:34:06,360
Speaker 1: stock into Jeremy Fowler. I no, I do. I'll tell

1937
01:34:06,360 --> 01:34:08,040
Speaker 1: you why I say what I said. Out to it.

1938
01:34:08,120 --> 01:34:11,800
Speaker 1: I think Jeremy Fowler does a good job. Don't add

1939
01:34:11,880 --> 01:34:14,640
Speaker 1: Jeremy Fouler PFW Paul thinks, No, No, I think he does.

1940
01:34:14,760 --> 01:34:16,320
Speaker 1: I think he does a really good job. I think

1941
01:34:16,360 --> 01:34:19,160
Speaker 1: he's one of those guys that's tapped in around the league.

1942
01:34:19,200 --> 01:34:20,400
Speaker 1: But I'll tell you what I why I said what

1943
01:34:20,520 --> 01:34:24,160
Speaker 1: I said. Okay, all right off here, and just as

1944
01:34:24,240 --> 01:34:26,880
Speaker 1: far as Sunday he goes. I find it hard at

1945
01:34:26,920 --> 01:34:29,000
Speaker 1: least at least for me to come out of their

1946
01:34:29,080 --> 01:34:32,200
Speaker 1: feeling good about really much of anything. I just feel

1947
01:34:32,240 --> 01:34:34,240
Speaker 1: like it was another game that just raised more questions

1948
01:34:34,280 --> 01:34:37,120
Speaker 1: and answers. And Paul, I'm with you about the play calling.

1949
01:34:37,280 --> 01:34:40,519
Speaker 1: It seems like it there's a little bit more, you know,

1950
01:34:40,680 --> 01:34:42,880
Speaker 1: to it, and and there's more people, you know, look

1951
01:34:42,880 --> 01:34:45,320
Speaker 1: at the film and you know, tweat stuff that the

1952
01:34:45,439 --> 01:34:47,639
Speaker 1: concepts are there and the plays are there to be made.

1953
01:34:47,720 --> 01:34:50,120
Speaker 1: I haven't actually had a tweet about that, you know,

1954
01:34:50,200 --> 01:34:52,120
Speaker 1: the other day there was a film review that you know,

1955
01:34:52,160 --> 01:34:54,120
Speaker 1: the plays are there more. I feel all that stuff.

1956
01:34:54,200 --> 01:34:57,320
Speaker 1: I guess I'm sort of in the camp with everybody else,

1957
01:34:57,360 --> 01:35:00,120
Speaker 1: like I Mac. It just looks lay too funky. And

1958
01:35:00,720 --> 01:35:03,800
Speaker 1: I'm psyched about Stevenson. I'm psyched about Jack Jones, you know,

1959
01:35:04,040 --> 01:35:07,760
Speaker 1: Dietrits six Jump Awesome. You were on playing great. But

1960
01:35:08,360 --> 01:35:10,240
Speaker 1: there's a part of me seep down inside that kind

1961
01:35:10,240 --> 01:35:11,840
Speaker 1: of just can't wait for this year to be over

1962
01:35:11,880 --> 01:35:13,640
Speaker 1: because I just don't think they're going anywhere. And I

1963
01:35:14,200 --> 01:35:16,840
Speaker 1: it's a the fetus, you know, view to have, but

1964
01:35:17,320 --> 01:35:19,000
Speaker 1: that's kind of just how I feel are even with

1965
01:35:19,120 --> 01:35:21,639
Speaker 1: the a f G being, you know, not as good

1966
01:35:21,640 --> 01:35:23,360
Speaker 1: as we thought it would be. I don't necessarily take

1967
01:35:23,400 --> 01:35:26,000
Speaker 1: us wide open, but ye kind of work. See. That's

1968
01:35:26,040 --> 01:35:28,760
Speaker 1: the thing is I wonder what people Yeah, and I

1969
01:35:28,880 --> 01:35:30,760
Speaker 1: kind of agree with Christian, but I wonder what people

1970
01:35:30,800 --> 01:35:35,240
Speaker 1: were thinking heading out all right hitting into I think

1971
01:35:35,360 --> 01:35:38,479
Speaker 1: that I don't think the AFC is wide open, like

1972
01:35:38,640 --> 01:35:40,519
Speaker 1: like Christian just said, I don't think it's wide open

1973
01:35:40,560 --> 01:35:42,759
Speaker 1: at all. I think there are two clear cut teams,

1974
01:35:42,800 --> 01:35:44,639
Speaker 1: and I don't think there's always two clear cut teams.

1975
01:35:44,640 --> 01:35:47,120
Speaker 1: It could be wide open for the wild card, yeah,

1976
01:35:47,160 --> 01:35:49,280
Speaker 1: but I think that's I think most people felt that.

1977
01:35:49,800 --> 01:35:52,840
Speaker 1: Now what you could maybe say, I thought like a

1978
01:35:52,960 --> 01:35:56,160
Speaker 1: Denver would be much better than the Patriots, and they

1979
01:35:56,200 --> 01:36:00,559
Speaker 1: haven't been right right, you know. I think the Raiders

1980
01:36:00,600 --> 01:36:02,840
Speaker 1: were kind of on the cusp. I would think the

1981
01:36:02,920 --> 01:36:05,559
Speaker 1: Raiders would be better Chargers, the Raiders would better than

1982
01:36:05,640 --> 01:36:07,800
Speaker 1: I think the Chargers are exactly what I think most people.

1983
01:36:08,120 --> 01:36:10,360
Speaker 1: They're like a five hundred and nine and eight ten

1984
01:36:10,400 --> 01:36:13,760
Speaker 1: and seven kind of naughty, same kind of thing, you know,

1985
01:36:13,960 --> 01:36:18,240
Speaker 1: Like I think that those like everybody is in a bunch,

1986
01:36:20,320 --> 01:36:22,320
Speaker 1: but I don't understand like maybe the Jets are better

1987
01:36:22,400 --> 01:36:25,120
Speaker 1: than obviously no one had the Jets at five and three.

1988
01:36:26,040 --> 01:36:28,880
Speaker 1: But I think everybody's bunched together, and I just wonder, like,

1989
01:36:29,439 --> 01:36:31,040
Speaker 1: how did you think it was going to separate? There

1990
01:36:31,080 --> 01:36:35,040
Speaker 1: was gonna be like seven thirteen win teams in seven

1991
01:36:35,360 --> 01:36:36,960
Speaker 1: four win teams, And I think a lot of people

1992
01:36:37,000 --> 01:36:39,880
Speaker 1: thought the Colts were gonna be better. See, I don't.

1993
01:36:40,360 --> 01:36:41,800
Speaker 1: You don't think they were going to be better. No,

1994
01:36:41,880 --> 01:36:43,400
Speaker 1: I think that they were going to be better with

1995
01:36:43,479 --> 01:36:45,360
Speaker 1: Matt Ryan, But I don't think a lot of people

1996
01:36:45,400 --> 01:36:47,280
Speaker 1: thought they were going to be like any thread. No.

1997
01:36:47,400 --> 01:36:49,560
Speaker 1: But the people they just got nudged out of the

1998
01:36:49,800 --> 01:36:52,400
Speaker 1: playoffs and they're gonna be the same exact team this year.

1999
01:36:52,560 --> 01:36:55,439
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna be worse. I don't. But I mean,

2000
01:36:55,479 --> 01:36:57,000
Speaker 1: what about the quality of the play though, I mean,

2001
01:36:57,040 --> 01:36:59,200
Speaker 1: aside from the records, I think the quality Fred will

2002
01:36:59,240 --> 01:37:00,640
Speaker 1: tell you this. I think the quality of player in

2003
01:37:00,640 --> 01:37:02,400
Speaker 1: the league has been awful for like I'm going on

2004
01:37:02,520 --> 01:37:05,680
Speaker 1: fifteen years, awful ever since the Patriots started getting good. No,

2005
01:37:06,439 --> 01:37:08,200
Speaker 1: I'm sorry if I put it. I'm sorry if I

2006
01:37:08,320 --> 01:37:11,439
Speaker 1: look at the first iteration of the dynasty as being

2007
01:37:11,560 --> 01:37:14,559
Speaker 1: far more impressive, I think that was far more impressive.

2008
01:37:14,600 --> 01:37:16,920
Speaker 1: I think they had to go through and be much

2009
01:37:17,000 --> 01:37:20,120
Speaker 1: better teams instead of having a double buy like you

2010
01:37:20,200 --> 01:37:22,080
Speaker 1: did the second part of the dynasty. You had to

2011
01:37:22,120 --> 01:37:25,479
Speaker 1: beat like League MVP Steve McNair in the Division round

2012
01:37:25,520 --> 01:37:28,240
Speaker 1: at home against Tennessee. That to me that that's tough.

2013
01:37:28,840 --> 01:37:31,639
Speaker 1: Then having to beat you know, Pittsburgh on the road

2014
01:37:31,800 --> 01:37:34,120
Speaker 1: as a fourteen and two team playing a fifteen and

2015
01:37:34,240 --> 01:37:39,000
Speaker 1: one team, That that that's a challenge. Not playing the

2016
01:37:39,120 --> 01:37:42,240
Speaker 1: brockofs Wilder Houston Texans in a playoff game, yeah, you know,

2017
01:37:42,640 --> 01:37:45,320
Speaker 1: and who were only there because Derek Carr broke his

2018
01:37:45,439 --> 01:37:47,960
Speaker 1: leg the week before and Houston ends up beating the

2019
01:37:48,040 --> 01:37:51,240
Speaker 1: Raiders in a playoff game. I'm just I'm I never

2020
01:37:51,280 --> 01:37:53,160
Speaker 1: in a hundred years would have thought that the Raiders,

2021
01:37:53,400 --> 01:37:57,920
Speaker 1: the Chargers, and the Broncos would all be No, you

2022
01:37:58,040 --> 01:38:01,400
Speaker 1: thought that that act powerhouse. I would have thought one

2023
01:38:01,479 --> 01:38:05,479
Speaker 1: team would have been been better out of those those three. Yeah, yeah,

2024
01:38:05,520 --> 01:38:07,720
Speaker 1: but didn't know who. Fair, I didn't know who. Yeah,

2025
01:38:07,920 --> 01:38:09,920
Speaker 1: but fair your thought and you probably not so much

2026
01:38:09,960 --> 01:38:12,599
Speaker 1: the charge because the charges of four and three, right, Yeah, yeah,

2027
01:38:12,920 --> 01:38:15,200
Speaker 1: that's right. I mean, that's that's charge. You're central, that's

2028
01:38:15,200 --> 01:38:18,160
Speaker 1: where they always are. Four and three, five and four years,

2029
01:38:18,520 --> 01:38:20,840
Speaker 1: you know, maybe six and four and a couple end

2030
01:38:20,880 --> 01:38:22,880
Speaker 1: of game decisions. Yeah, that's where they always are. I

2031
01:38:22,920 --> 01:38:25,240
Speaker 1: would have thought either the Raiders or the Broncos would

2032
01:38:25,240 --> 01:38:27,599
Speaker 1: be much better than they are. Yeah, I think that's fair.

2033
01:38:27,880 --> 01:38:29,360
Speaker 1: But I wouldn't have thought the Jets would be as

2034
01:38:29,360 --> 01:38:33,200
Speaker 1: good as they had Patty and Aga on what's up Patty? Yeah.

2035
01:38:33,240 --> 01:38:35,320
Speaker 1: If I'm justin Herbert, I'm getting the hell out of

2036
01:38:35,600 --> 01:38:39,160
Speaker 1: Lapp when his contracts done, Ricky deal has done, I

2037
01:38:39,160 --> 01:38:42,200
Speaker 1: would I would take him. Actually, oh, I would take

2038
01:38:42,280 --> 01:38:46,920
Speaker 1: them all day. Yeah, I'm close on him to just

2039
01:38:47,000 --> 01:38:48,840
Speaker 1: tapping out close to cut and ties. I think he

2040
01:38:48,920 --> 01:38:56,280
Speaker 1: might be part of the problem. Um uh not the

2041
01:38:56,400 --> 01:38:59,400
Speaker 1: non sect order on the MAC, but uh, go ahead.

2042
01:38:59,520 --> 01:39:02,280
Speaker 1: Last year, do you guys feel like he um he

2043
01:39:02,439 --> 01:39:04,880
Speaker 1: actually stood in the pocket. Maybe he had a little

2044
01:39:04,880 --> 01:39:07,000
Speaker 1: bit more confidence than the line because to me, it

2045
01:39:07,120 --> 01:39:09,400
Speaker 1: is like just from I don't know if my memory

2046
01:39:09,520 --> 01:39:11,880
Speaker 1: serving me correctly, but it seemed like he was more

2047
01:39:11,960 --> 01:39:14,040
Speaker 1: willing to hang in the pocket and take take the

2048
01:39:14,120 --> 01:39:16,559
Speaker 1: hit that he knew was coming than he does this year.

2049
01:39:16,600 --> 01:39:18,240
Speaker 1: I think he did at first, towards the end of

2050
01:39:18,280 --> 01:39:20,479
Speaker 1: the season. I think he got skittish again. I mean,

2051
01:39:20,720 --> 01:39:23,000
Speaker 1: I would just say I walked. I took a look

2052
01:39:23,040 --> 01:39:25,000
Speaker 1: back just at the highlights of the last year's Colts game,

2053
01:39:25,000 --> 01:39:26,599
Speaker 1: and I mean it looked different to me. He looked

2054
01:39:26,640 --> 01:39:29,120
Speaker 1: like a different stretch for every game, and they got

2055
01:39:29,120 --> 01:39:31,160
Speaker 1: hammered in that. He wasn't good. He wasn't in that

2056
01:39:31,200 --> 01:39:33,000
Speaker 1: good in that game, but he at least, you know,

2057
01:39:33,160 --> 01:39:35,560
Speaker 1: just like I said, like is willing to take a

2058
01:39:35,640 --> 01:39:38,639
Speaker 1: step and deliver the ball. And my amateur psychologist view

2059
01:39:39,720 --> 01:39:41,960
Speaker 1: when he was a rookie, he came in after having

2060
01:39:42,800 --> 01:39:45,560
Speaker 1: absolutely immaculate protection of Alabama. You don't know what you

2061
01:39:45,600 --> 01:39:47,800
Speaker 1: don't know, and it's like that's what you do. You

2062
01:39:47,920 --> 01:39:49,920
Speaker 1: drop back there and you don't end of anybody around you.

2063
01:39:51,280 --> 01:39:53,360
Speaker 1: And as the year went on, he started getting hit.

2064
01:39:53,640 --> 01:39:57,160
Speaker 1: As this year opened, he was getting hammered, untouched. Rushers

2065
01:39:57,200 --> 01:40:01,519
Speaker 1: in Miami could be NFL. The defensive lineman hit hard,

2066
01:40:01,720 --> 01:40:04,800
Speaker 1: so they're allowed to hit you here. Yeah. No, A

2067
01:40:04,960 --> 01:40:07,639
Speaker 1: very amateur psychologists kind of like that though. You don't

2068
01:40:07,640 --> 01:40:08,840
Speaker 1: know what you don't know, and then you get in

2069
01:40:08,920 --> 01:40:10,280
Speaker 1: you start to get rattled. And I think that that

2070
01:40:10,360 --> 01:40:12,080
Speaker 1: speaks to a lot of quarterbacks that get into the

2071
01:40:12,120 --> 01:40:14,320
Speaker 1: league and kind of come in as mister everything, and

2072
01:40:14,360 --> 01:40:15,920
Speaker 1: all of a sudden you get humbled a little bit.

2073
01:40:16,000 --> 01:40:18,000
Speaker 1: You're getting hit a little bit. Someone sent something to

2074
01:40:18,040 --> 01:40:21,040
Speaker 1: ask PFW earlier, Mike, you know, saying, is there anything

2075
01:40:21,080 --> 01:40:24,680
Speaker 1: to the theory that Zappy has looked better with these

2076
01:40:24,760 --> 01:40:27,720
Speaker 1: guys because they are a dramatic upgrade from what he

2077
01:40:27,760 --> 01:40:33,920
Speaker 1: worked with at Western Kentucky as opposed to mac whiteness

2078
01:40:34,120 --> 01:40:39,200
Speaker 1: around him at every spot. I didn't make it. I'm

2079
01:40:39,280 --> 01:40:42,200
Speaker 1: crediting a guy who wrote into our mail backs. It's funny, Paul.

2080
01:40:42,200 --> 01:40:43,679
Speaker 1: I can't help but think that kind of some along

2081
01:40:43,680 --> 01:40:45,960
Speaker 1: those lines. When I was watching the Battle of the Eagles,

2082
01:40:46,160 --> 01:40:48,479
Speaker 1: and I'm like, they're they're an SEC All Star team,

2083
01:40:48,560 --> 01:40:51,479
Speaker 1: Like they have all SEC All Stars all over their offense,

2084
01:40:51,560 --> 01:40:53,599
Speaker 1: and you know, and their defense has played well too.

2085
01:40:54,080 --> 01:40:55,640
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just it should get bets how it

2086
01:40:55,640 --> 01:40:57,880
Speaker 1: should look when you robert really good players from the

2087
01:40:57,960 --> 01:41:00,960
Speaker 1: best league, and you know, I think something they're saying,

2088
01:41:01,880 --> 01:41:05,000
Speaker 1: put again the NFC, the only good teams are and

2089
01:41:05,320 --> 01:41:08,840
Speaker 1: they didn't include the Eagles. Someone said there's only oh no,

2090
01:41:08,920 --> 01:41:10,960
Speaker 1: there's only two teams that are really good. The Bills,

2091
01:41:11,000 --> 01:41:13,240
Speaker 1: in the Chiefs. I'm like, oh, in the AFC, No,

2092
01:41:13,400 --> 01:41:16,439
Speaker 1: in the NFL, oh no. And it's like the Eagles

2093
01:41:16,479 --> 01:41:21,200
Speaker 1: are good, the Cowboys are good. Yeah, absolutely, yeah like this.

2094
01:41:21,400 --> 01:41:23,960
Speaker 1: I mean, you think what you want about Dallas exact.

2095
01:41:24,360 --> 01:41:26,880
Speaker 1: They have a bosover a coach and Jerry Jones will

2096
01:41:26,960 --> 01:41:30,519
Speaker 1: medal whatever. Yeah, they're good, Michael Parsons, that's a good team.

2097
01:41:31,360 --> 01:41:36,840
Speaker 1: Cody's in Baltimore. Hey, Cody, Hey, guys, good, good afternoon. Yeah.

2098
01:41:37,080 --> 01:41:39,639
Speaker 1: Um so, I know the subject is being as death,

2099
01:41:39,680 --> 01:41:43,560
Speaker 1: but I'm calling to discuss Zappy and Matt Jones. Uh specifically,

2100
01:41:43,920 --> 01:41:47,240
Speaker 1: I really didn't like the dismissal of Zappy after one

2101
01:41:47,360 --> 01:41:52,360
Speaker 1: bad half football. The office looks more alive Sappy. I

2102
01:41:52,479 --> 01:41:54,719
Speaker 1: know it's the small sample size, but he looks decisive

2103
01:41:54,760 --> 01:41:57,400
Speaker 1: and sharper in his brows in a way that Matt

2104
01:41:57,439 --> 01:42:01,280
Speaker 1: seems to be regressing. I'm secret seeing Mac he uses

2105
01:42:01,400 --> 01:42:04,120
Speaker 1: legs to pick up first downs, and I just don't

2106
01:42:04,200 --> 01:42:06,640
Speaker 1: understand why they didn't choose to continue to go at

2107
01:42:06,680 --> 01:42:09,560
Speaker 1: the hot hand and start Zapp against the Bears. And

2108
01:42:09,680 --> 01:42:12,160
Speaker 1: now I feel like we're married and Matt Jones and

2109
01:42:13,080 --> 01:42:17,439
Speaker 1: his turnovers, it was indecisive. Miss why didn't. Why did

2110
01:42:17,520 --> 01:42:21,000
Speaker 1: we lose State and Zappy so quickly? I would actually

2111
01:42:21,040 --> 01:42:22,600
Speaker 1: say they did the opposite of that. I think they

2112
01:42:22,720 --> 01:42:26,200
Speaker 1: rode Zappy out until the hot hand cooled off. I

2113
01:42:26,320 --> 01:42:28,439
Speaker 1: think if Zappy played well for the rest of that

2114
01:42:28,560 --> 01:42:32,920
Speaker 1: Chicago game PDA played, I think he cooled off and

2115
01:42:33,000 --> 01:42:36,200
Speaker 1: they said, Okay, that's we think the other guy's better.

2116
01:42:37,200 --> 01:42:39,800
Speaker 1: This guy just played five straight series and didn't even

2117
01:42:39,840 --> 01:42:42,719
Speaker 1: cross his forty yard line. Yeah, I think that one's

2118
01:42:42,760 --> 01:42:45,080
Speaker 1: worn off a little bit. I think they did ride

2119
01:42:45,120 --> 01:42:46,960
Speaker 1: the hot hand. I think that's why they played Zappy

2120
01:42:47,040 --> 01:42:49,640
Speaker 1: in the Monday night game because I think they were

2121
01:42:49,680 --> 01:42:51,600
Speaker 1: looking to go back to the hot hand, and I

2122
01:42:51,640 --> 01:42:53,599
Speaker 1: think no one can speak to like what they want

2123
01:42:53,760 --> 01:42:55,880
Speaker 1: to do with the offense that they want to be

2124
01:42:56,200 --> 01:42:58,240
Speaker 1: and how do they get there. I don't think they

2125
01:42:58,320 --> 01:43:00,680
Speaker 1: get there with Bailey Zappy. They get with Mac if

2126
01:43:00,760 --> 01:43:02,800
Speaker 1: Mac plays the way they think Mac might be. And

2127
01:43:02,880 --> 01:43:04,679
Speaker 1: in fairness, I don't know if they get there with Mac.

2128
01:43:04,760 --> 01:43:08,040
Speaker 1: I don't know either, but but um I would agree

2129
01:43:08,080 --> 01:43:11,360
Speaker 1: with Mike's premise that Mac has a better skill set

2130
01:43:11,680 --> 01:43:13,840
Speaker 1: doesn't mean doesn't make him a better player, because we've

2131
01:43:13,880 --> 01:43:17,320
Speaker 1: seen guys with Leiser skill sets that get the job done.

2132
01:43:17,560 --> 01:43:19,960
Speaker 1: Like I think no one would argue that Carson Wentz.

2133
01:43:20,680 --> 01:43:22,519
Speaker 1: No one would argue that Carson Wentz is a more

2134
01:43:22,600 --> 01:43:26,880
Speaker 1: talented player than Taylor. Heineke gets the job done, but

2135
01:43:27,000 --> 01:43:29,479
Speaker 1: Washington comes, you know, comes in. He won two games.

2136
01:43:29,520 --> 01:43:31,000
Speaker 1: I don't think he was good in either game, but

2137
01:43:31,160 --> 01:43:33,400
Speaker 1: you won them. Yeah, and that's why some ways, like

2138
01:43:33,439 --> 01:43:35,560
Speaker 1: I see Mac as uh, you know, it's kind of

2139
01:43:35,600 --> 01:43:39,280
Speaker 1: like a quintessential Patriot performance this week of it's not flashy,

2140
01:43:40,120 --> 01:43:42,439
Speaker 1: does what he needs to do to get just enough

2141
01:43:42,560 --> 01:43:44,400
Speaker 1: to make it happen, you know. And so I think

2142
01:43:44,439 --> 01:43:46,800
Speaker 1: that they like that to a degree. I think that

2143
01:43:46,880 --> 01:43:48,680
Speaker 1: that does some credit to Mac. But but it's just

2144
01:43:48,800 --> 01:43:51,000
Speaker 1: it's got to get to a next level where you're

2145
01:43:51,040 --> 01:43:53,240
Speaker 1: not just surviving. And I think he said on the

2146
01:43:53,240 --> 01:43:55,960
Speaker 1: postgame show, sometimes it feels like you're surviving your own offense.

2147
01:43:56,400 --> 01:43:58,400
Speaker 1: Mike was all over. They started the game, Fred like

2148
01:43:59,160 --> 01:44:02,920
Speaker 1: even some of this quote unquote successful drives. It was,

2149
01:44:03,439 --> 01:44:08,120
Speaker 1: you know, twelve plays, you know, fifty two yards, like

2150
01:44:08,360 --> 01:44:12,680
Speaker 1: third down, down, and you're moving the chains by like

2151
01:44:13,640 --> 01:44:15,880
Speaker 1: a chain link every time. It's like it's never like

2152
01:44:16,040 --> 01:44:19,400
Speaker 1: third and two we pick up seventeen. It was just

2153
01:44:19,720 --> 01:44:23,800
Speaker 1: a slog every even the successful plays where and I

2154
01:44:23,880 --> 01:44:26,560
Speaker 1: think that goes back to UM. I think it was

2155
01:44:26,920 --> 01:44:28,800
Speaker 1: the last call. Maybe a speed, but you know it

2156
01:44:28,880 --> 01:44:31,439
Speaker 1: just it's a grind. If you if you added up

2157
01:44:31,479 --> 01:44:33,960
Speaker 1: consecutive first downs by Mac running on the play that

2158
01:44:34,000 --> 01:44:37,200
Speaker 1: they got hit by C. J. Mosley, H John ou

2159
01:44:37,280 --> 01:44:39,439
Speaker 1: Smith with the yards after the catch in the in

2160
01:44:39,920 --> 01:44:43,559
Speaker 1: one of those shallow crosses by Myers, you probably didn't

2161
01:44:43,600 --> 01:44:45,800
Speaker 1: get those three first downs by a combined length of

2162
01:44:45,840 --> 01:44:48,360
Speaker 1: the football. Now, it doesn't matter how much you get

2163
01:44:48,400 --> 01:44:50,439
Speaker 1: it by you move the chains. But it's a hard

2164
01:44:50,479 --> 01:44:53,760
Speaker 1: way to live, is the point. H. Greg's in California.

2165
01:44:53,840 --> 01:44:58,559
Speaker 1: What's up? Greg? Hey, guys, So you're just talking about

2166
01:44:58,640 --> 01:45:02,760
Speaker 1: how you think if anyone in our quarterback room could

2167
01:45:02,960 --> 01:45:07,560
Speaker 1: unlock whatever potential the offense has its back. But I

2168
01:45:07,680 --> 01:45:10,519
Speaker 1: don't think I think the sample size is big enough

2169
01:45:10,560 --> 01:45:13,639
Speaker 1: at this point that he's displayed to mistake Brown when

2170
01:45:13,680 --> 01:45:17,200
Speaker 1: they try to unlock whatever potential the offense might have.

2171
01:45:18,120 --> 01:45:20,679
Speaker 1: And I honestly would feel better if we just tried

2172
01:45:20,760 --> 01:45:23,479
Speaker 1: to pursue another quarterback at this point. I don't know

2173
01:45:23,920 --> 01:45:26,840
Speaker 1: if you guys agree with that or not. I agree

2174
01:45:26,880 --> 01:45:28,600
Speaker 1: with it. I mean, I agree with the part that

2175
01:45:28,800 --> 01:45:31,840
Speaker 1: the mistakes are unacceptable, and the mistakes are going to

2176
01:45:31,960 --> 01:45:34,519
Speaker 1: undercut anything that you believe or want to believe about

2177
01:45:34,560 --> 01:45:37,200
Speaker 1: mac Jones. If he continues to turn the ball over

2178
01:45:37,360 --> 01:45:39,799
Speaker 1: and throw bad picks, it's it's not going to continue.

2179
01:45:39,880 --> 01:45:41,760
Speaker 1: It's not They're not going to continue down that road.

2180
01:45:42,080 --> 01:45:44,719
Speaker 1: And that's a bottom line for me. Good Mike, Michael Lombardi,

2181
01:45:44,800 --> 01:45:47,960
Speaker 1: good job. I would know you sounded just like Michael Lombardi.

2182
01:45:47,960 --> 01:45:49,559
Speaker 1: If continue to turn the ball over, he's not going

2183
01:45:49,640 --> 01:45:54,960
Speaker 1: to play. I would also say, um, I, Greg, I

2184
01:45:55,080 --> 01:45:57,599
Speaker 1: sort of share a lot of your concerns. I would

2185
01:45:57,640 --> 01:46:01,000
Speaker 1: push back a little on the samples eyes. I don't

2186
01:46:01,400 --> 01:46:04,639
Speaker 1: think that. I think there's been guys that are still

2187
01:46:04,760 --> 01:46:07,360
Speaker 1: sort of in that is he Ori is any category

2188
01:46:07,680 --> 01:46:10,320
Speaker 1: after twenty five games. I don't think this is like

2189
01:46:10,400 --> 01:46:12,840
Speaker 1: the be all considering all the changes that they've been

2190
01:46:12,920 --> 01:46:15,599
Speaker 1: through the year. One. The injury too, like the injury

2191
01:46:15,640 --> 01:46:17,560
Speaker 1: too like to rails him a little bit had he

2192
01:46:17,640 --> 01:46:21,040
Speaker 1: had continuity. And if you're asking me to put my

2193
01:46:21,120 --> 01:46:23,320
Speaker 1: hand on a bible and tell tell you what I

2194
01:46:23,479 --> 01:46:26,800
Speaker 1: think now, I don't think he's the guy, but that

2195
01:46:26,920 --> 01:46:29,640
Speaker 1: doesn't mean I think we've known that for sure. I

2196
01:46:29,720 --> 01:46:33,640
Speaker 1: think he deserves more time just because the injury and

2197
01:46:33,880 --> 01:46:38,160
Speaker 1: all the chaos is giving him an excuse with some people.

2198
01:46:38,320 --> 01:46:41,080
Speaker 1: But he was playing like crap before the injury and

2199
01:46:41,200 --> 01:46:44,519
Speaker 1: all that. So I just think he kind of peeked in,

2200
01:46:44,680 --> 01:46:46,799
Speaker 1: Like but I don't think he played like crap on Sunday.

2201
01:46:48,160 --> 01:46:51,000
Speaker 1: But yeah, I don't. I don't think he played like

2202
01:46:51,080 --> 01:46:54,679
Speaker 1: crap Sunday. I think he was really he was under

2203
01:46:54,720 --> 01:46:57,800
Speaker 1: siege the whole game. Thanks. Great. So here's the thing

2204
01:46:58,040 --> 01:47:02,400
Speaker 1: that I keep thinking about. This offense hasn't looked right since,

2205
01:47:03,360 --> 01:47:06,679
Speaker 1: not even priests training camp, Like they weren't even doing

2206
01:47:06,760 --> 01:47:09,280
Speaker 1: it right in training camp. It hasn't looked right yet.

2207
01:47:09,360 --> 01:47:13,720
Speaker 1: So is that Mac, You know what I mean? Like

2208
01:47:13,960 --> 01:47:16,800
Speaker 1: like there was problems with the offense as a whole

2209
01:47:17,000 --> 01:47:21,720
Speaker 1: since training camp, you know, and like so yeah, well

2210
01:47:21,760 --> 01:47:23,519
Speaker 1: I know, And that's and I keep going back to

2211
01:47:23,600 --> 01:47:25,560
Speaker 1: like the zappy thing, and I know all the qualifiers

2212
01:47:25,600 --> 01:47:27,479
Speaker 1: for who was playing and what the situation was, but

2213
01:47:27,560 --> 01:47:29,080
Speaker 1: it was like that was the only time this year

2214
01:47:29,400 --> 01:47:31,519
Speaker 1: that you just watched it looked like an offense that

2215
01:47:31,720 --> 01:47:34,080
Speaker 1: was like running it and knew what they were doing

2216
01:47:34,439 --> 01:47:36,519
Speaker 1: and completing plays and just you know, kind of had

2217
01:47:36,520 --> 01:47:39,160
Speaker 1: a rhythm to it. And it's just like our callers

2218
01:47:39,240 --> 01:47:41,719
Speaker 1: have said it, it feels sporadic. It feels a grind,

2219
01:47:42,960 --> 01:47:45,920
Speaker 1: and that's why are they gonna get there? I really

2220
01:47:45,960 --> 01:47:47,720
Speaker 1: don't know. Still, I really don't. Hey, what did you

2221
01:47:47,800 --> 01:47:49,800
Speaker 1: guys think? I know what you know? Still talking about

2222
01:47:49,800 --> 01:47:51,360
Speaker 1: the Jets, right, what did you guys think of the

2223
01:47:51,439 --> 01:47:55,559
Speaker 1: decisions to pass up field goals on the two fourth downs?

2224
01:47:55,920 --> 01:47:59,320
Speaker 1: One worked and one didn't. On the first one, I said,

2225
01:47:59,400 --> 01:48:02,920
Speaker 1: take the pool points. That's what I was saying, Take

2226
01:48:02,960 --> 01:48:05,040
Speaker 1: that because this that's the type of about the second one.

2227
01:48:05,760 --> 01:48:07,439
Speaker 1: At that point, I think I said go for it,

2228
01:48:07,520 --> 01:48:09,720
Speaker 1: but I can't remember. I know, I know on the

2229
01:48:09,760 --> 01:48:11,880
Speaker 1: first one, I was like, just take them. I thought

2230
01:48:11,880 --> 01:48:13,600
Speaker 1: they should have kicked both field goals. I think the

2231
01:48:13,640 --> 01:48:15,840
Speaker 1: game had declared it was going to be, you know, yeah,

2232
01:48:16,200 --> 01:48:18,000
Speaker 1: if you could get to twenty, you're gonna win. You

2233
01:48:18,080 --> 01:48:20,000
Speaker 1: didn't need a lot of points in that game, right,

2234
01:48:20,320 --> 01:48:23,679
Speaker 1: And I think passing up points both times was risky.

2235
01:48:23,920 --> 01:48:25,800
Speaker 1: I just think I was at a point where I

2236
01:48:25,920 --> 01:48:29,439
Speaker 1: like seeing them put in situations where they have to

2237
01:48:29,560 --> 01:48:34,960
Speaker 1: deliver or fail, and you know, I'm just I know,

2238
01:48:36,160 --> 01:48:38,840
Speaker 1: if you're going big picture, I a thousand percent agree

2239
01:48:38,880 --> 01:48:41,240
Speaker 1: with you, that's I think. But I'm trying to win

2240
01:48:41,280 --> 01:48:43,600
Speaker 1: the game. I'm just going by winning the game. And

2241
01:48:43,840 --> 01:48:49,040
Speaker 1: if they didn't get the second one, you might have lost. Yeah,

2242
01:48:49,920 --> 01:48:52,240
Speaker 1: like you take seven points away, and I'm not saying

2243
01:48:52,320 --> 01:48:54,599
Speaker 1: that you take seven from twenty two, you lose the game,

2244
01:48:54,840 --> 01:48:57,960
Speaker 1: you know, seventeen to fifteen. It doesn't work that way.

2245
01:48:58,000 --> 01:49:03,240
Speaker 1: The whole game changes. But that was potentially, you know,

2246
01:49:03,320 --> 01:49:05,360
Speaker 1: you take six points away from you by not taking

2247
01:49:05,400 --> 01:49:08,960
Speaker 1: two chip shot field goals. That's I think that was

2248
01:49:09,800 --> 01:49:11,760
Speaker 1: unnecessary risk in a game that you didn't need a

2249
01:49:11,800 --> 01:49:13,120
Speaker 1: lot of points in. I mean, do you think that

2250
01:49:13,240 --> 01:49:16,720
Speaker 1: that that that has an impact on Mac when you

2251
01:49:16,800 --> 01:49:18,640
Speaker 1: start to do those things and you just start to

2252
01:49:18,760 --> 01:49:21,680
Speaker 1: not not even go forward on And I think that

2253
01:49:21,840 --> 01:49:25,120
Speaker 1: he pulled back the aggressiveness a lot. No, And I

2254
01:49:25,640 --> 01:49:28,200
Speaker 1: just think that you you know, it's an easy that's

2255
01:49:28,240 --> 01:49:30,439
Speaker 1: an easy fix. You know, start making the plays on

2256
01:49:30,520 --> 01:49:31,800
Speaker 1: third down and we won't have to be put in

2257
01:49:31,840 --> 01:49:34,880
Speaker 1: these situations like I mean, it's it's it's really don't

2258
01:49:34,920 --> 01:49:37,760
Speaker 1: like it. It's really simple. Um, And I know Mac

2259
01:49:37,880 --> 01:49:41,639
Speaker 1: was adamant about going for the second one I started.

2260
01:49:41,720 --> 01:49:43,640
Speaker 1: He was gesturing to the sideline, we're going forward. He

2261
01:49:43,680 --> 01:49:47,800
Speaker 1: was all, you know, for tough guy. Um, but I

2262
01:49:48,160 --> 01:49:51,160
Speaker 1: just think that the number one thing for the code

2263
01:49:51,200 --> 01:49:53,360
Speaker 1: should be what is in the best interest of the

2264
01:49:53,439 --> 01:49:57,320
Speaker 1: team to win today, not like anything you should be

2265
01:49:57,439 --> 01:50:01,400
Speaker 1: talking about winning Marvin and Kerner's that's what's what I

2266
01:50:01,520 --> 01:50:03,880
Speaker 1: agree with you. I agree with you, Fred. Why are

2267
01:50:03,920 --> 01:50:06,240
Speaker 1: we assuming that BILLYO was even wanting to come back

2268
01:50:06,280 --> 01:50:08,519
Speaker 1: to New England instead of taking a head coach job

2269
01:50:08,600 --> 01:50:11,679
Speaker 1: at say Carolina. No, I mean, listen, if he gets

2270
01:50:11,840 --> 01:50:13,760
Speaker 1: offered a head coach job, he takes that. But I

2271
01:50:14,080 --> 01:50:16,320
Speaker 1: don't think he's coming back here. And I think that

2272
01:50:16,520 --> 01:50:18,160
Speaker 1: the way I think, Mike you put this is when

2273
01:50:18,320 --> 01:50:21,680
Speaker 1: I was coming back in from my little potty break. Um,

2274
01:50:24,040 --> 01:50:25,680
Speaker 1: it's kind of like an admission that you have to

2275
01:50:25,720 --> 01:50:27,519
Speaker 1: do it all over again. And I don't think that

2276
01:50:27,640 --> 01:50:31,840
Speaker 1: that's something A that's in their DNA. But b you

2277
01:50:31,880 --> 01:50:33,600
Speaker 1: could make an argument it's not the best interest to

2278
01:50:33,680 --> 01:50:37,120
Speaker 1: Mac yeah, to have your third offensive coordinator in three years.

2279
01:50:37,400 --> 01:50:39,280
Speaker 1: I think if anything, that's why I said, if you,

2280
01:50:39,400 --> 01:50:41,280
Speaker 1: if you just bring in the offensive line coach and

2281
01:50:41,320 --> 01:50:43,960
Speaker 1: you just let Maddie Peep become the offensive coordinator, then

2282
01:50:44,040 --> 01:50:46,760
Speaker 1: that's not a tacit admission of failure, but it's at least,

2283
01:50:47,040 --> 01:50:51,759
Speaker 1: you know, like a reshuffling, a restructuring of the coaching staff.

2284
01:50:51,760 --> 01:50:55,800
Speaker 1: And pretty deep in Charlotte, North Carolina was about to

2285
01:50:55,880 --> 01:50:58,200
Speaker 1: ask the question and Paul was talking about it as well.

2286
01:50:58,320 --> 01:51:01,320
Speaker 1: Looking back at the movement of Win from left tackle

2287
01:51:01,360 --> 01:51:03,479
Speaker 1: to right tackle, was it a good move? I mean,

2288
01:51:03,600 --> 01:51:06,120
Speaker 1: when was not that this bad? When he was playing?

2289
01:51:06,200 --> 01:51:08,800
Speaker 1: I would agree with that he was a service He

2290
01:51:08,840 --> 01:51:12,439
Speaker 1: was serviceable at left when he's not serviceable at right tackle. Yeah,

2291
01:51:12,439 --> 01:51:14,520
Speaker 1: and why haven't? I mean, I wonder if that conversation

2292
01:51:14,560 --> 01:51:16,479
Speaker 1: has come up, did we flop him? You know? I

2293
01:51:16,880 --> 01:51:18,840
Speaker 1: mean it was all, oh, you know, gonna balance it out.

2294
01:51:18,840 --> 01:51:20,800
Speaker 1: You're gonna have power on that side, the athleticism on

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Speaker 1: this side. Like, do you think that's why they I

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Speaker 1: don't know, I don't know, I don't know why they

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Speaker 1: did it. But whatever benefit that they thought they were

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Speaker 1: going to reap from it, do you think they've reaped

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Speaker 1: that benefit? No? So, and you know that you know,

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01:51:31,520 --> 01:51:33,600
Speaker 1: Brown's okay at right side, and I'd be willing to

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01:51:33,680 --> 01:51:36,920
Speaker 1: listen to anything as to the reason why. That's as

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01:51:37,080 --> 01:51:39,719
Speaker 1: plausible as anything. I was wondering if maybe they'd wanted

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01:51:39,720 --> 01:51:42,680
Speaker 1: to see if they could further engage Trent Brown by

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01:51:42,760 --> 01:51:45,519
Speaker 1: moving him to the left side. I don't think that's worked.

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Speaker 1: I think he's the opposite. He's the same apathetic guy

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Speaker 1: that he had always has been. Um you know some

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01:51:50,800 --> 01:51:52,880
Speaker 1: games he has. I think he played well. So, like

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Speaker 1: I said, I didn't notice him with any egregious breakdowns

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01:51:55,960 --> 01:51:57,680
Speaker 1: on Sunday the week before. I did. Did he not

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Speaker 1: have a penalty diet sheets for this one? I think

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01:52:01,000 --> 01:52:02,639
Speaker 1: he had a clean sheet. I don't think he tackles

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01:52:02,720 --> 01:52:05,880
Speaker 1: had a clean sheet, didn't they Yeah, well, you the

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01:52:06,000 --> 01:52:08,720
Speaker 1: right tackle would have had to hit somebody. But I

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01:52:08,760 --> 01:52:10,960
Speaker 1: don't think there were any penalties on the tackles. No,

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01:52:11,160 --> 01:52:14,040
Speaker 1: they were on Strange. Strange had two holding calls. I

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01:52:14,160 --> 01:52:17,240
Speaker 1: think Matt and Devin uk I know that we won

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01:52:17,320 --> 01:52:19,280
Speaker 1: the game, but I need you guys to talk me

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01:52:19,360 --> 01:52:21,479
Speaker 1: down as I'm on the ledge. We only won this

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01:52:21,600 --> 01:52:23,800
Speaker 1: one because Wilson is one of the worst quarterbacks I've

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01:52:23,840 --> 01:52:26,800
Speaker 1: ever seen, and the Jets peed themselves after the roughing

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01:52:26,840 --> 01:52:29,679
Speaker 1: the passer penalty in the first half. Before that point,

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01:52:29,720 --> 01:52:32,560
Speaker 1: they were killing us. Why are we so bad? I

2323
01:52:32,720 --> 01:52:35,280
Speaker 1: know that we've got a few good players across some positions,

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01:52:35,360 --> 01:52:37,240
Speaker 1: but mac is still throwing the ball to the other

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01:52:37,360 --> 01:52:40,320
Speaker 1: team could have ended with at least three picks, including

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01:52:40,360 --> 01:52:42,559
Speaker 1: the pick six on the day, our old line might

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01:52:42,600 --> 01:52:45,160
Speaker 1: as well not be there. And before Wilson started peeing

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01:52:45,200 --> 01:52:47,880
Speaker 1: down his leg, the Jets offense was making our d

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01:52:48,080 --> 01:52:51,519
Speaker 1: look amateurish. Talk me down. I'd only pushed back on

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01:52:51,600 --> 01:52:53,400
Speaker 1: the last point of I mean they blew some they

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01:52:53,439 --> 01:52:55,320
Speaker 1: blew a couple coverage, there's no question, but I don't

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01:52:55,320 --> 01:52:57,599
Speaker 1: I don't think they've ever looked the amateurist except maybe

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01:52:57,720 --> 01:53:01,200
Speaker 1: against Lamar Jackson Field I thought, I mean, not amateurish,

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01:53:01,280 --> 01:53:03,400
Speaker 1: but I thought they The Jets offense was better than

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01:53:03,439 --> 01:53:05,479
Speaker 1: the Patriots defense for the balance of the first half

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01:53:06,000 --> 01:53:08,280
Speaker 1: until that pick. Because the Jets are you have to

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01:53:08,320 --> 01:53:11,240
Speaker 1: take into consideration what you're dealing with. It's not a

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01:53:11,320 --> 01:53:13,160
Speaker 1: good offense, and they were on the verge of putting

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01:53:13,200 --> 01:53:16,479
Speaker 1: thirteen on the board with one throw, like they're gonna

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01:53:16,479 --> 01:53:19,920
Speaker 1: be over midfield plenty of time. They're probably gonna get points.

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01:53:20,720 --> 01:53:23,720
Speaker 1: But even the ten that's more than they score. They

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01:53:23,840 --> 01:53:26,320
Speaker 1: do not score that team, and they were without their

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01:53:26,479 --> 01:53:29,679
Speaker 1: best players. They were out their best receiver, their best

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01:53:29,760 --> 01:53:32,559
Speaker 1: offensive linemen, and their best running back, and they were

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01:53:32,640 --> 01:53:35,040
Speaker 1: moving the ball. Like I said, they had like four

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01:53:35,120 --> 01:53:38,040
Speaker 1: hundred yards of offense in this game. And Zach Wilson

2347
01:53:38,080 --> 01:53:40,080
Speaker 1: for as bad as he was through for three fifty five.

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01:53:40,560 --> 01:53:42,040
Speaker 1: And I just I don't know if you can understate

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01:53:42,160 --> 01:53:44,240
Speaker 1: what Bruce Hall was to that team early in the

2350
01:53:44,280 --> 01:53:46,320
Speaker 1: season when you watch those games and the impact that

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01:53:46,400 --> 01:53:48,160
Speaker 1: he had with big play. I mean, everybody talking about

2352
01:53:48,200 --> 01:53:50,960
Speaker 1: Romandre Stevenson, like I just say, if the Patriots would

2353
01:53:50,960 --> 01:53:52,800
Speaker 1: have lost without Stevenson, like, well, how do you think

2354
01:53:52,800 --> 01:53:55,320
Speaker 1: the Jets feel like? If I'm wrong and they wouldn't

2355
01:53:55,320 --> 01:53:57,479
Speaker 1: be formed for without Stevenson, how do you think the

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01:53:57,560 --> 01:53:59,720
Speaker 1: Jets feel if if they had Bruce Hall? Do you

2357
01:53:59,760 --> 01:54:01,240
Speaker 1: think they felt like they would have won that game?

2358
01:54:01,680 --> 01:54:03,559
Speaker 1: And I think they looked at the Patriots run defense

2359
01:54:03,600 --> 01:54:05,280
Speaker 1: and said, we would have had some opportunities and maybe

2360
01:54:05,320 --> 01:54:07,559
Speaker 1: instead of running the ball fifteen times, if they had

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01:54:07,640 --> 01:54:09,640
Speaker 1: Breeze Hall, they would have been more content to do that.

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01:54:09,920 --> 01:54:11,880
Speaker 1: They had a guy in Robinson that they just got

2363
01:54:12,280 --> 01:54:14,720
Speaker 1: and I don't think they feel comfortable just lining up

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01:54:14,760 --> 01:54:17,040
Speaker 1: Michael Carter as a running back for more than a

2365
01:54:17,120 --> 01:54:19,960
Speaker 1: handful of touches. I think there were times that they

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01:54:20,160 --> 01:54:22,400
Speaker 1: know they stored it through some holes. They didn't run

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01:54:22,439 --> 01:54:24,760
Speaker 1: it enough. That's the bottom line. If they had just

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01:54:25,160 --> 01:54:27,960
Speaker 1: run it ten more times and taken ten of those

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01:54:28,000 --> 01:54:30,920
Speaker 1: passes away, maybe among those ten passes or a couple

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01:54:30,960 --> 01:54:35,160
Speaker 1: of the mistakes. Neil and new Brunswick, you've all agreed

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01:54:35,240 --> 01:54:37,840
Speaker 1: that you can't pencil and wins. I agree, but with

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01:54:38,000 --> 01:54:39,960
Speaker 1: that we have to accept the other side of that

2373
01:54:40,720 --> 01:54:44,000
Speaker 1: is you can't complain when you win but you don't

2374
01:54:44,080 --> 01:54:46,640
Speaker 1: like the way it looked. Only really good teams with

2375
01:54:46,800 --> 01:54:49,360
Speaker 1: high expectations get to do that. For us, a win

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01:54:49,480 --> 01:54:51,760
Speaker 1: is a win, no matter how Congratulations to Bill a

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01:54:51,840 --> 01:54:54,960
Speaker 1: number two all time I was on the Zappi train.

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01:54:55,080 --> 01:54:59,520
Speaker 1: Nothing changed for me Sunday. The offense with Mac under center,

2379
01:54:59,560 --> 01:55:01,800
Speaker 1: it feels like they're playing on a sheet to ice.

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01:55:02,360 --> 01:55:05,200
Speaker 1: That's the way I can describe it. It just doesn't

2381
01:55:05,240 --> 01:55:08,200
Speaker 1: look right. That doesn't mean Zappy is anything in this league.

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01:55:08,240 --> 01:55:11,120
Speaker 1: I just enjoy watching the offense more when Zappy is

2383
01:55:11,160 --> 01:55:14,400
Speaker 1: the quarterback. I don't buy the reason for calling plays

2384
01:55:14,480 --> 01:55:17,760
Speaker 1: based on the quarterback because the weapons don't change. Maybe

2385
01:55:17,840 --> 01:55:21,520
Speaker 1: our weapons are suited for the zappy playbook. I like

2386
01:55:21,640 --> 01:55:27,200
Speaker 1: the offense better when they play against the Lions. Yeah, yeah,

2387
01:55:28,560 --> 01:55:31,480
Speaker 1: I mean the Lions and Browns have bad have bad defenses.

2388
01:55:31,640 --> 01:55:33,520
Speaker 1: I like the way the offense looked in those games

2389
01:55:33,600 --> 01:55:37,040
Speaker 1: better than they did against, yeah, the Jets, and that's

2390
01:55:37,160 --> 01:55:39,640
Speaker 1: you know, the Ravens. It's totally fair that who they

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01:55:39,720 --> 01:55:42,760
Speaker 1: were playing. But I just I'm with a part of

2392
01:55:42,840 --> 01:55:46,200
Speaker 1: this of just I can't shake that. How can it

2393
01:55:46,280 --> 01:55:48,960
Speaker 1: go from looking so clunky to least like kind of

2394
01:55:49,320 --> 01:55:52,080
Speaker 1: functional even against the bad decase. So, I mean you

2395
01:55:52,080 --> 01:55:54,240
Speaker 1: could go out there seven on seven and it looked

2396
01:55:54,240 --> 01:55:56,320
Speaker 1: like the same as we're seeing rain. Let's flip it

2397
01:55:56,400 --> 01:55:59,680
Speaker 1: in the last five minutes. How do you feel the

2398
01:55:59,720 --> 01:56:03,080
Speaker 1: defense looks against, say, the Jets, as opposed to the

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01:56:03,120 --> 01:56:05,520
Speaker 1: way it looked against Baltimore. Right, it's the same thing.

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01:56:06,360 --> 01:56:09,840
Speaker 1: The defense look clunky against a bad offense, I mean

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01:56:09,920 --> 01:56:14,280
Speaker 1: against a good offense, right, But it's dominant against Zach Wilson,

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01:56:14,480 --> 01:56:16,280
Speaker 1: you know, the team that's throwing the ball to them.

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01:56:16,320 --> 01:56:19,320
Speaker 1: I mean not exactly dominant, No, but I'm saying, like,

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01:56:19,560 --> 01:56:22,640
Speaker 1: you know, think about the performances that they've had over

2405
01:56:22,720 --> 01:56:24,640
Speaker 1: the year, you know, like everybody, you know, we heard

2406
01:56:24,680 --> 01:56:26,480
Speaker 1: it again today because we're getting ready to head into

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01:56:26,480 --> 01:56:28,480
Speaker 1: the bye. Oh the bye. I'm not sure that's the

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01:56:28,600 --> 01:56:30,600
Speaker 1: right thing. Look what happened after the bye last week?

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01:56:30,840 --> 01:56:33,800
Speaker 1: Last year? What happened they played better team? They played

2410
01:56:33,840 --> 01:56:37,400
Speaker 1: better teams Zebra Jacksonville who they blistered. I just, you know,

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01:56:37,600 --> 01:56:38,960
Speaker 1: I guess this is part of me that thinks that

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01:56:39,000 --> 01:56:41,880
Speaker 1: there's a level of execution that I just I saw

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01:56:41,960 --> 01:56:43,560
Speaker 1: out of the offense during that stretch that I just

2414
01:56:43,600 --> 01:56:46,200
Speaker 1: haven't seen, whether they were going against air or nothing

2415
01:56:46,320 --> 01:56:49,400
Speaker 1: like the training can't practice. Let's let's face it, the

2416
01:56:49,520 --> 01:56:52,120
Speaker 1: Patriots are a mediocre team. They're not a good team.

2417
01:56:52,160 --> 01:56:55,200
Speaker 1: A good team is consistently good. Until you're consistently good,

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01:56:55,240 --> 01:56:58,280
Speaker 1: you're not good. They're good some days they're not bad.

2419
01:56:58,320 --> 01:57:00,040
Speaker 1: And a lot of it depends on the opponent it

2420
01:57:00,880 --> 01:57:04,640
Speaker 1: and until they figure out the offense in mac they're

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01:57:04,680 --> 01:57:07,280
Speaker 1: not going to be a consistently good team, you know.

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01:57:07,520 --> 01:57:10,440
Speaker 1: So that's just where we are right now. I agree

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01:57:10,440 --> 01:57:12,280
Speaker 1: with it. We're working through it. Yeah, I mean, I

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01:57:12,320 --> 01:57:14,400
Speaker 1: guess then in that in that regard, I just want

2425
01:57:14,440 --> 01:57:16,400
Speaker 1: to see mac Jones against a bad defense and see

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01:57:16,480 --> 01:57:21,000
Speaker 1: them like somebody I don't want to see right like that.

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01:57:21,160 --> 01:57:23,760
Speaker 1: That won't tell me, that won't tell me crazy. I

2428
01:57:23,880 --> 01:57:25,880
Speaker 1: want to see them play well against a good team.

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01:57:26,120 --> 01:57:28,200
Speaker 1: I'm with Fred, Yeah, I need to see a progression.

2430
01:57:28,200 --> 01:57:31,040
Speaker 1: That's why this second half of the season is critical.

2431
01:57:31,320 --> 01:57:34,080
Speaker 1: And I want them to stick with Matt through thick

2432
01:57:34,160 --> 01:57:37,040
Speaker 1: and thin, do a Miami thing to see I want

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01:57:37,040 --> 01:57:39,440
Speaker 1: to see what only like that, and that's like pieing

2434
01:57:39,440 --> 01:57:41,080
Speaker 1: the sky to me right now, like I would just

2435
01:57:41,160 --> 01:57:43,920
Speaker 1: want to see them light up Jacksonville for fifty points.

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01:57:43,960 --> 01:57:46,120
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying that you're gonna learn anything definitive,

2437
01:57:46,320 --> 01:57:48,720
Speaker 1: but at least for one time in two sense of

2438
01:57:48,760 --> 01:57:52,320
Speaker 1: security if that's fine, but at least at least I

2439
01:57:52,440 --> 01:57:54,360
Speaker 1: know I think you have it, because I don't know

2440
01:57:54,400 --> 01:57:55,640
Speaker 1: that they have it in them at this time. I

2441
01:57:55,720 --> 01:57:58,680
Speaker 1: need to see. I'm expecting another low scoring, tight game

2442
01:57:58,720 --> 01:58:00,640
Speaker 1: against the Colts, but I think they blow the Colts

2443
01:58:00,640 --> 01:58:02,840
Speaker 1: out because they're playing a kid. They're making his second start,

2444
01:58:03,120 --> 01:58:05,320
Speaker 1: first career road start, and I think he could turn

2445
01:58:05,400 --> 01:58:07,440
Speaker 1: the ball over four times in the first five possessions,

2446
01:58:07,600 --> 01:58:10,320
Speaker 1: and I've learned nothing about Smack Joe. All right. Patriotson

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