WEBVTT - Ep. 316: Render - Turkeys and Outlaws 0:00:14.640 --> 0:00:17.200 My name is Clay Nukleman. This is a production of 0:00:17.239 --> 0:00:21.400 the Bear Grease podcast called The Bear Grease Render, where 0:00:21.400 --> 0:00:25.720 we render down, dive deeper, and look behind the scenes 0:00:26.040 --> 0:00:31.280 of the actual bear Grease podcast presented by f HF Gear, 0:00:31.800 --> 0:00:36.520 American Maid, purpose built hunting and fishing gear that's designed 0:00:36.520 --> 0:00:43.919 to be as rugged as the place as we explore. So, 0:00:45.120 --> 0:00:50.120 right before the podcast started, there was mention of a 0:00:50.200 --> 0:00:53.479 premature baby, which is something that happens occasionally in the 0:00:53.600 --> 0:00:58.320 human species, and I started to tell a story about 0:00:58.360 --> 0:01:05.800 how in medieval times in Europe, bears were on the 0:01:05.959 --> 0:01:11.720 hit list of the Catholic Church in a major way 0:01:12.880 --> 0:01:17.320 because of the pagan bear cults of Europe that were 0:01:17.440 --> 0:01:24.920 so dominant that like imagine today if you said, what's 0:01:24.959 --> 0:01:27.200 the king of the beasts? Like, what would you say? 0:01:27.360 --> 0:01:28.040 King of the beast? 0:01:28.200 --> 0:01:31.520 King of the beasts. Yeah, I mean that's like the 0:01:31.640 --> 0:01:36.080 universal king of the beasts. Well before, pre about a 0:01:36.200 --> 0:01:40.320 thousand years ago, especially in Europe, king of the beast 0:01:40.400 --> 0:01:43.160 would have been the bear because of what's called what 0:01:43.280 --> 0:01:47.680 anthropologists have labeled a very controversial idea, but what they 0:01:47.800 --> 0:01:53.400 have labeled the circumpolar bear cult, which basically everywhere that 0:01:53.440 --> 0:01:56.840 there's bears north of the equator. There is this like 0:01:57.040 --> 0:02:02.520 consistency in the way that humans have have ceremonialized bear 0:02:02.600 --> 0:02:07.440 in like really strange and wild ways, which gave rise 0:02:07.600 --> 0:02:14.600 to these bear cults and actual bear worship in Europe 0:02:15.520 --> 0:02:21.519 and about fifteen hundred years ago, the Catholic Church, one 0:02:21.560 --> 0:02:26.520 of their primary targets cultural targets like today, like a 0:02:26.560 --> 0:02:30.120 cultural target for I won't even speculate on what that 0:02:30.160 --> 0:02:33.040 would be for a church today, but one of their 0:02:33.120 --> 0:02:37.440 main targets was bears. And literally, I've recently read a 0:02:37.440 --> 0:02:42.680 book about this, and literally there were marketing campaigns against bears. 0:02:43.240 --> 0:02:45.480 And one of the things that was written by a 0:02:45.520 --> 0:02:51.040 medieval author circling back to a premature baby, is that 0:02:51.520 --> 0:02:56.119 bear cubs are born in the winter den and weigh 0:02:56.240 --> 0:03:00.920 less than a pound, and per the calcul elations of 0:03:01.720 --> 0:03:05.000 big game mammals and how big their offspring should be, 0:03:05.440 --> 0:03:09.680 a bears offspring is like way smaller and it's just 0:03:09.800 --> 0:03:12.880 like deep biological strategy. Because they have their cubs in 0:03:12.960 --> 0:03:16.320 the den, the mother has to sustain herself and the 0:03:16.360 --> 0:03:20.840 cub through the spring without urinating, defecating, or leaving the den, 0:03:21.040 --> 0:03:23.440 and so that they have this strategy of delayed implantation 0:03:23.480 --> 0:03:27.200 where they have this tiny premature cub. Coming back to 0:03:27.680 --> 0:03:29.640 this story with me? 0:03:29.040 --> 0:03:29.600 Everybody with me? 0:03:30.040 --> 0:03:36.760 Brent, Oh yeah, okay. This these medieval writers marketed that 0:03:36.760 --> 0:03:42.119 that the sALS, the sal bears were so lazy, carnal 0:03:43.000 --> 0:03:46.120 and lustful lug your ears. 0:03:46.360 --> 0:03:46.800 Wow. 0:03:47.640 --> 0:03:53.200 That they were so burdened by pregnancy because they couldn't 0:03:53.280 --> 0:03:56.840 mate again with their lovers that they just spat their 0:03:57.000 --> 0:04:00.680 young out of the oven way before it was done. 0:04:03.080 --> 0:04:04.160 With me, I'm following. 0:04:04.240 --> 0:04:10.560 Yeah, So this like biological reproductive strategy of having these 0:04:10.600 --> 0:04:17.000 little beady cubs was was marketed as bears are bad 0:04:17.839 --> 0:04:20.800 and you need to quit your pagan heathen cult of 0:04:21.000 --> 0:04:25.560 worshiping them, which I mean, I'm all four not doing that. 0:04:27.800 --> 0:04:30.839 But welcome to the Bear grease Pipe Podcast. 0:04:31.040 --> 0:04:33.280 How did I tell you to end those kind of stories? 0:04:33.880 --> 0:04:40.280 And then I found five dollars on the ground were 0:04:40.440 --> 0:04:44.200 just in Montana, and I he told some. I told 0:04:44.240 --> 0:04:48.200 some that were just flat stories amongst the group, and 0:04:48.200 --> 0:04:50.600 Brent was like, when you tell a story that dumb, 0:04:50.920 --> 0:04:54.360 you should end it with. And then I found five dollars. 0:04:54.440 --> 0:04:57.000 I'm gonna tell you where I learned that from the 0:04:57.120 --> 0:05:00.880 lady that gives you so much grief about mushrooms in 0:05:00.920 --> 0:05:01.480 your chili. 0:05:02.360 --> 0:05:05.200 My wife, your wife, Yeah, do you put mushrooms in 0:05:05.240 --> 0:05:05.679 your chili? 0:05:05.760 --> 0:05:06.400 I did once. 0:05:07.560 --> 0:05:11.320 I love mushrooms in your chili, spaghetti sauce. 0:05:12.720 --> 0:05:15.880 I put mushrooms in just about anything, my oatmeal pipe. 0:05:16.839 --> 0:05:19.120 So so your wife taught you to say, like, if 0:05:19.120 --> 0:05:23.440 you end the story and people are still like, yeah, well, 0:05:23.880 --> 0:05:24.200 I mean what. 0:05:24.839 --> 0:05:27.000 Happened, Yeah, where it came from? Was I tell her 0:05:27.000 --> 0:05:28.960 a hunting story or something that we would found. Oh, 0:05:29.000 --> 0:05:32.200 that's good, And she's like, I'm still waiting for the 0:05:32.200 --> 0:05:35.800 worst part where Lewis Viten comes in or what's his name, 0:05:36.080 --> 0:05:38.839 Louis Vatan, whatever his name is. 0:05:39.880 --> 0:05:42.960 She's waiting for that lemon part of the story. 0:05:43.080 --> 0:05:44.080 Yeah, yeah, that's it. 0:05:44.240 --> 0:05:46.240 She said, you should always end one of those with 0:05:46.600 --> 0:05:48.080 And then I found five dollars. 0:05:48.240 --> 0:05:48.800 Yeah. 0:05:49.160 --> 0:05:51.080 Finding out a lot of my stories in that way. 0:05:51.160 --> 0:05:54.120 But welcome to the Bear Grease Render. Today we have 0:05:54.760 --> 0:05:58.520 Brent Reeves of this Country Life podcast here. It's been 0:05:58.560 --> 0:06:01.280 a while since you've been here, so good to see you. 0:06:01.440 --> 0:06:03.520 We've got Josh Lambridge Spillmaker. 0:06:03.560 --> 0:06:05.800 I'm here I'm in pursuit of a turkey. 0:06:05.640 --> 0:06:11.600 In pursuit of a turkey, and we got Lake Pickle, 0:06:10.120 --> 0:06:15.800 good friend, Robert Lake Pickle, Robert Lake Pickle. Yeah, so 0:06:16.440 --> 0:06:19.520 we've got We've got a lot, a lot to cover today. 0:06:19.839 --> 0:06:23.000 Big Time had a Big Time podcast hit the airwaves 0:06:23.080 --> 0:06:26.359 last week. I want to talk about and just in 0:06:26.400 --> 0:06:30.360 case you're new to this, man, our our feed is 0:06:30.400 --> 0:06:35.719 not getting any more simple to understand. But on the 0:06:35.760 --> 0:06:39.120 bear Grease feed, which typically a feed would just be 0:06:39.200 --> 0:06:42.520 one podcast and there'd be one thing, but not us, 0:06:42.520 --> 0:06:45.160 not us, we have the bear Grease Podcast, which is 0:06:45.200 --> 0:06:48.360 our documentary style podcast, which we're going to talk about 0:06:48.440 --> 0:06:52.080 this true bear Grease is what I call it, the 0:06:52.279 --> 0:06:53.839 Confessions of a former outlaw. 0:06:54.320 --> 0:06:54.760 We have that. 0:06:54.960 --> 0:06:57.680 We also have this the bear Grease Render is where 0:06:57.720 --> 0:07:00.240 we gather up and have a kind of a traditional 0:07:00.320 --> 0:07:04.559 style podcast where we typically will talk about last week's 0:07:04.560 --> 0:07:08.800 Paar Greece. But we also have Brent Reeves this country 0:07:08.839 --> 0:07:13.440 life podcast every Friday. What is this country life podcast? 0:07:13.880 --> 0:07:16.040 Would you describe it in a word? I didn't think 0:07:16.080 --> 0:07:18.560 you could. Moving right along, You. 0:07:18.520 --> 0:07:21.280 Can't do it in a word, for sure, not one word. No. 0:07:21.480 --> 0:07:26.120 It is an amalgamation of my life and those around me. 0:07:27.080 --> 0:07:30.920 And it's anything culturally significant in my life, which could 0:07:31.000 --> 0:07:34.520 be falling, riding a tricycle, awful porch as a child 0:07:34.640 --> 0:07:39.640 or grown up, but anything is is this country life. 0:07:40.160 --> 0:07:43.880 It's actually this country life. It's my country life and 0:07:43.920 --> 0:07:48.160 my friends and observations about living in the country and 0:07:48.240 --> 0:07:51.680 the country could be a trip that we went to 0:07:51.720 --> 0:07:55.920 New York City, you know, just my observations. 0:07:55.160 --> 0:07:59.040 And how I view the world and how the world. 0:07:58.840 --> 0:08:01.440 Is viewed by people like me and folks that I know, 0:08:01.560 --> 0:08:08.920 and stories that have some type of roots in place, 0:08:09.640 --> 0:08:12.480 in place and family. So it's not a it's not 0:08:12.520 --> 0:08:15.040 a hunting and fishing show, but we talk about hunting 0:08:15.040 --> 0:08:20.960 and fishing. It's just really an Americana. If you want 0:08:21.000 --> 0:08:23.800 to do one word, Americana is probably it. 0:08:24.880 --> 0:08:26.520 I like it. Yeah, I just thought of that. 0:08:26.760 --> 0:08:31.960 Yeah, there's I've never sent somebody to Brent's podcast that 0:08:31.960 --> 0:08:34.080 that didn't like it, and that's the truth. I think 0:08:34.160 --> 0:08:36.360 just about anybody in the world could listen to it, and. 0:08:36.320 --> 0:08:40.600 I appreciate it and like it very entertaining. 0:08:40.240 --> 0:08:45.320 Entertaining, you know, it's just entertaining, always, always entertaining. 0:08:45.000 --> 0:08:46.599 And It's one of those podcasts you don't have to 0:08:46.600 --> 0:08:48.679 sit down for two hours and listen to. They're usually 0:08:48.679 --> 0:08:50.319 about what, twenty minutes, twenty five minutes. 0:08:50.440 --> 0:08:54.040 Yeah, a lot of people listen to it going to work, 0:08:54.200 --> 0:08:56.000 coming home from work, whatever. 0:08:56.760 --> 0:09:00.200 Some folks save it up for road trips. Know. 0:09:01.600 --> 0:09:05.520 Lake has memorized a lot of them. He puts them 0:09:05.520 --> 0:09:07.520 to music and sings them back to me a lot 0:09:07.559 --> 0:09:08.040 on my. 0:09:08.280 --> 0:09:11.320 Voice smel I put them to auto tune. Stop doing 0:09:11.480 --> 0:09:16.400 please stop doing that. Lake, no promises, but it's a 0:09:16.400 --> 0:09:19.120 lot of fun. It's I'm very blessed to do this. Man. 0:09:19.480 --> 0:09:22.560 It's uh here it is Open the Turkey season. We're 0:09:22.600 --> 0:09:24.720 recording this and I'm sitting in here with you. I 0:09:24.760 --> 0:09:27.400 got a guy that gets paid for two guys that 0:09:27.480 --> 0:09:29.880 get paid three four guys. 0:09:30.000 --> 0:09:31.520 They get paid the hunting fish. 0:09:31.880 --> 0:09:37.280 It's kind of have qualms with that labeling. I don't. 0:09:37.320 --> 0:09:39.120 I don't think I get paid to hunting fish. 0:09:39.200 --> 0:09:41.160 Yeah, because I'm gonna have to reframe that too, because 0:09:41.200 --> 0:09:43.240 if I said I, if I agreed to that, I 0:09:43.240 --> 0:09:45.120 would have to do some real explaining to my wife. 0:09:45.280 --> 0:09:47.600 Because I've done a lot of explaining myself out of 0:09:47.640 --> 0:09:48.720 that that I don't do that. 0:09:49.400 --> 0:09:51.320 She thinks I just play all the time. Yeah. 0:09:51.559 --> 0:09:56.720 Yeah, Well it is today the Arkansas and Missouri turkey season, 0:09:56.760 --> 0:10:00.120 and we're all here, but we're splitting from here and 0:10:00.200 --> 0:10:03.320 heading pretty quick to our haunts, the haunts of the 0:10:03.360 --> 0:10:09.920 wild turkey Man. So Lake, Uh, if I don't know 0:10:09.960 --> 0:10:12.480 what Lake does with his life, it's hard to say 0:10:13.240 --> 0:10:16.240 what he does. He works for on X, that's true, 0:10:16.320 --> 0:10:18.480 and what he does for on X is hard to say. 0:10:19.520 --> 0:10:23.440 It's possible that on X is like in some sort 0:10:23.520 --> 0:10:27.679 of money laundering scheme, because I know a lot of 0:10:27.720 --> 0:10:31.959 people that work for on X, and it's like they 0:10:32.000 --> 0:10:32.880 do a lot of stuff. 0:10:33.480 --> 0:10:37.280 He's on my feet every day and everything I opened it, 0:10:37.400 --> 0:10:40.480 I turn on, turn on the old Google machine, and 0:10:40.520 --> 0:10:41.080 there's Lake. 0:10:41.520 --> 0:10:45.440 Yeah, they're feeding him. They're feeding him to us daily. Hey, 0:10:45.559 --> 0:10:51.000 but Lake Pickle is is a true Southern turkey hunter. 0:10:52.440 --> 0:10:55.080 This guy right here's a turkey hunter. Brent's a turkey hunter. 0:10:55.120 --> 0:10:58.840 Two but I always talk about Brent. But but uh, 0:10:59.400 --> 0:11:02.920 Lakes a turkey hunter, the turkey killer, and it's hunted 0:11:02.960 --> 0:11:06.120 with some of the some of the iconic turkey hunters 0:11:06.120 --> 0:11:09.600 of North America, primarily Will primos So I'm talking about 0:11:10.040 --> 0:11:11.600 that's and that's kind of the reason I know you. 0:11:11.640 --> 0:11:14.480 It's through Wilbur. I mean, that's pretty much why everybody know. 0:11:14.559 --> 0:11:16.800 I will accept that label. Yeah. No, If I'm known 0:11:16.840 --> 0:11:20.040 through that's that's a good association. Known through Wilbur. That's 0:11:20.120 --> 0:11:21.160 fine by me. Yeah. 0:11:22.040 --> 0:11:22.679 So what do you do? 0:11:22.840 --> 0:11:24.920 Like, little of this, little of that? 0:11:25.320 --> 0:11:28.640 What do you do that you can talk about? 0:11:28.760 --> 0:11:32.080 Yeah, No, I'm a the like the easiest term would 0:11:32.120 --> 0:11:36.000 be like a marketing manager. I was doing social media 0:11:36.040 --> 0:11:39.240 strategy for pretty much the whole of the three years 0:11:39.280 --> 0:11:43.640 I've been there, and then recently changed from that into 0:11:43.720 --> 0:11:47.720 doing more of a marketing manager role, so mainly focusing 0:11:47.760 --> 0:11:50.960 on me personally. We've got a couple of different marketing managers, 0:11:50.960 --> 0:11:53.840 but I focus on the waterfile side, So work with ambassadors, 0:11:53.880 --> 0:11:56.559 work with a bunch of corporate partners like Ducks Unlimited 0:11:56.600 --> 0:12:00.120 and places like that, and marketing strategy, which is in 0:12:00.160 --> 0:12:00.840 a learning curve. 0:12:01.040 --> 0:12:02.760 But it's been fun. It's always fun. 0:12:04.200 --> 0:12:08.640 Hey have you got that call now? I told the 0:12:08.679 --> 0:12:11.679 guys before you got here. Josh said that he liked 0:12:11.760 --> 0:12:13.959 that phelps Prime cuts call. 0:12:14.120 --> 0:12:18.200 I tried like twelve different and I'm I'm a novice 0:12:18.880 --> 0:12:22.120 using a mouth call. But as a novice, I put 0:12:22.400 --> 0:12:24.640 ten or twelve different calls in my mouth and then 0:12:24.720 --> 0:12:28.240 one at the same time. I say, if three reads 0:12:28.240 --> 0:12:32.200 are good, thirty or even better, I put that call 0:12:32.200 --> 0:12:33.920 in my mouth. And that's the one call that I 0:12:34.000 --> 0:12:36.440 could I could make sound realistic, and it was like 0:12:36.960 --> 0:12:40.320 easily you could manipulate it and make good good, like 0:12:40.440 --> 0:12:42.719 as just the right amount of rasp and and you 0:12:42.760 --> 0:12:44.400 can manipulate manipulate. 0:12:43.960 --> 0:12:47.959 It really well well Lake when he started using that call, 0:12:48.000 --> 0:12:50.760 and that's that's my call in that prime cuts pack. 0:12:51.320 --> 0:12:54.559 And I know, as much as it hurts Lake to 0:12:54.600 --> 0:13:00.000 say that my name on it was good, I said 0:13:00.080 --> 0:13:02.040 before you got here, I said, Le's not playing around. 0:13:02.080 --> 0:13:04.160 If he's using it, he likes it. He's not trying 0:13:04.160 --> 0:13:07.439 to butter anybody up. Because if somebody's really serious, that's 0:13:07.440 --> 0:13:10.280 something you can trust him to not just like, oh, 0:13:10.679 --> 0:13:12.640 use it to like make you feel good or something. 0:13:13.200 --> 0:13:15.600 And I know how serious you take turkey calling. So 0:13:15.720 --> 0:13:17.800 when I mean you like that call, though, no. 0:13:17.960 --> 0:13:20.360 I do. I fall into when it comes to like 0:13:20.480 --> 0:13:24.280 mouth he oopers, which turkey calls diepram cause people call 0:13:24.679 --> 0:13:28.960 I've fall into a problem with I blow a batwingstall 0:13:29.040 --> 0:13:32.559 call a lot, and so I find myself I'm comfortable 0:13:32.559 --> 0:13:35.000 with that, so I get the same tone with my 0:13:35.080 --> 0:13:36.720 yelp and all the time. 0:13:37.000 --> 0:13:37.760 So if I can. 0:13:37.559 --> 0:13:40.040 Find one that I can blow and it gives me 0:13:40.080 --> 0:13:41.840 a different tone, I like that because that means I 0:13:41.840 --> 0:13:44.400 have something to switch to. 0:13:43.640 --> 0:13:46.920 Just to throw at him. That's different the old dazzle. 0:13:47.160 --> 0:13:50.440 Yeah, just like, hey, they ain't heard this yet. Now. 0:13:50.480 --> 0:13:53.280 I heard Brent call that a cotton mouth cut, which 0:13:53.320 --> 0:13:57.160 I don't think is that cut? I think maybe you 0:13:57.360 --> 0:13:59.360 have you ever heard of that before? Seen a cut 0:13:59.360 --> 0:14:03.760 like that that it's it's uh yeah, I mean so 0:14:04.480 --> 0:14:08.440 when you're talking about diaphragm turkey calls, you don't have 0:14:08.520 --> 0:14:11.400 to know what cut it is. But you know there's 0:14:11.520 --> 0:14:14.080 double reed, triple read, single reed, and there's all these 0:14:14.080 --> 0:14:18.640 different cuts that are on the basically the the the 0:14:18.679 --> 0:14:21.800 bottom read that read closest to your tongue is cut 0:14:21.880 --> 0:14:24.960 in a certain way, and that gives a cut tones. 0:14:25.040 --> 0:14:25.960 What kind of cut is that? 0:14:26.400 --> 0:14:26.600 Man? 0:14:26.960 --> 0:14:30.160 I mean, it looks like somewhere between a bat wing 0:14:30.240 --> 0:14:33.160 and a ghost cut. And I'd never seen one like it, honestly, 0:14:33.400 --> 0:14:34.760 which is why I was like, man, I don't know 0:14:34.760 --> 0:14:36.320 if I'll be able to make a turkey sound on 0:14:36.360 --> 0:14:39.160 this or not, because I never used one that had 0:14:39.160 --> 0:14:41.080 a cut like that but ended up liking it. 0:14:41.640 --> 0:14:44.240 Here, hit us with it. Just give us a little 0:14:44.680 --> 0:15:08.000 little sequence, give us a little perr, little whistle that 0:15:08.080 --> 0:15:08.640 sounds good? 0:15:08.680 --> 0:15:10.680 Man, it does? You know? To me? 0:15:11.440 --> 0:15:14.360 What when I find a call that I like, And 0:15:14.360 --> 0:15:17.040 that's the reason that we made that one, is that 0:15:17.160 --> 0:15:21.840 I can purr on it and make those soft noises 0:15:21.880 --> 0:15:24.640 but also get a good raspy cut And a lot 0:15:24.640 --> 0:15:26.880 of times it's like one of the other, at least 0:15:27.000 --> 0:15:29.760 with me, that's the way it's been, is one of 0:15:29.840 --> 0:15:30.080 the other. 0:15:30.200 --> 0:15:32.040 Oh you have to do one one call for one 0:15:32.080 --> 0:15:32.720 thing and another. 0:15:33.000 --> 0:15:35.080 Yeah, it's like, well that's my I mean, you could 0:15:35.080 --> 0:15:37.280 always yelp on any of them or cut on any 0:15:37.360 --> 0:15:40.320 of them. But like my best raspy cutting call was 0:15:40.360 --> 0:15:42.720 this one. And then well, if I want to make 0:15:43.200 --> 0:15:46.040 soft purrs, it's you know, got to use this call, 0:15:46.160 --> 0:15:47.680 but that one I seem to be able to get 0:15:48.120 --> 0:15:49.000 all the sounds out. 0:15:48.840 --> 0:15:51.200 Of them the same way. It's the only thing that 0:15:51.240 --> 0:15:53.640 I can't do well on that is Kiki. But I 0:15:54.000 --> 0:15:56.640 really on that one. You can't get just the only thing, Okay, 0:15:56.680 --> 0:15:59.000 but I'm willing to take that compromise because that's about 0:15:59.000 --> 0:16:01.600 the same like the only mouthcawl kiki on is a 0:16:01.640 --> 0:16:02.200 ghost cut. 0:16:02.280 --> 0:16:05.320 So I mean, okay, used to that. Okay? 0:16:06.520 --> 0:16:08.440 Uh have you uh you've turkey don it quite a 0:16:08.440 --> 0:16:10.960 bit this year? Well maybe not as much as usual, 0:16:11.000 --> 0:16:12.280 but you have turkey in it. 0:16:12.440 --> 0:16:14.160 Oh yeah, yeah, as much as I can. 0:16:14.640 --> 0:16:15.440 How many of you killed? 0:16:15.760 --> 0:16:16.760 Three? Three? 0:16:16.840 --> 0:16:21.200 Where killed one at home in Mississippi, killed one in 0:16:21.280 --> 0:16:23.400 Texas with my wife, and then I killed one in 0:16:23.440 --> 0:16:24.720 Tennessee last week. 0:16:25.360 --> 0:16:25.640 Nice. 0:16:25.840 --> 0:16:27.920 Yeah, Now you didn't killing in Florida. 0:16:28.280 --> 0:16:28.720 I did not. 0:16:29.000 --> 0:16:32.040 I took I you were there while but yeah, some turkey. 0:16:32.160 --> 0:16:35.320 So where we go in Florida. We've been able to 0:16:35.320 --> 0:16:38.400 go to for a number of years, and uh Lacey 0:16:38.480 --> 0:16:41.640 has been burning me up to go there, which I understand, 0:16:42.160 --> 0:16:44.080 but it was a situation where I wasn't in the 0:16:44.160 --> 0:16:46.080 driver's seat to be able to do any inviting. 0:16:46.800 --> 0:16:47.000 Uh. 0:16:47.160 --> 0:16:49.000 Last spring that we were there, that got like, man, 0:16:49.000 --> 0:16:52.680 bring your wife next year. So uh, this year, Lacey 0:16:52.720 --> 0:16:56.160 went first, and then Jordan's wife went, and then Jordan went, 0:16:56.240 --> 0:16:57.880 and by the time I got the gun. We had 0:16:57.920 --> 0:17:00.920 one afternoon and was able to hunt till like seven 0:17:00.960 --> 0:17:04.000 the next morning. So I tried but didn't pan out, 0:17:04.359 --> 0:17:05.480 but Lacey got one. 0:17:05.359 --> 0:17:06.520 So yeah, good for her. 0:17:06.680 --> 0:17:12.560 Yeah, how many states have you killed turkeys in ninety one? 0:17:13.680 --> 0:17:17.080 I think I want to see like twenty three, maybe 0:17:17.080 --> 0:17:19.560 twenty three states, I think. So that's pretty sport, I 0:17:19.600 --> 0:17:23.760 think so yeah, I would man the whole forty nine 0:17:23.800 --> 0:17:28.160 state thing for a while, like probably twenty one twenty 0:17:28.160 --> 0:17:31.800 twenty two. I was trying to hit that pretty hard, 0:17:32.520 --> 0:17:35.399 and then it seemed like everyone and their cousins started 0:17:35.400 --> 0:17:38.639 trying to do it too, And then me and Jordan 0:17:38.640 --> 0:17:41.439 blissit do y'all know we would have these trips every year. 0:17:41.600 --> 0:17:43.560 We'd try to hit a couple of states, and we'd 0:17:43.560 --> 0:17:46.520 get to this point, man, where we would be we 0:17:46.520 --> 0:17:48.840 weren't even really enjoying the hunting. We would just try 0:17:48.880 --> 0:17:50.320 to get this state, all right, let's get stuff on 0:17:50.400 --> 0:17:52.720 this jump to other stairs, Like man, that ain't that? 0:17:52.760 --> 0:17:54.720 Ain't it? Isn't it? Yeah? 0:17:54.800 --> 0:17:56.359 So I mean I still like, if I have a 0:17:56.359 --> 0:17:58.840 spring where I'm able to hit a new state, awesome, 0:17:59.000 --> 0:18:01.920 but I'm not breaking my back to see how quick. 0:18:01.880 --> 0:18:05.760 Have you killed all the all the subspecies, yeah, except 0:18:05.760 --> 0:18:06.280 forate golds. 0:18:06.320 --> 0:18:10.600 Hadn't done that. Yeah. Hm, I've just got two Easterns 0:18:10.640 --> 0:18:11.200 and rio. 0:18:12.560 --> 0:18:13.800 Let me say it's a few hundred. 0:18:13.640 --> 0:18:26.440 In uh, Kansas, Missouri, Louisiana, Arkansas, Alabama. I've killed turkeys 0:18:26.440 --> 0:18:29.560 in all them. In Mississippi, I say Mississippi, not yet. 0:18:29.640 --> 0:18:31.280 I've killed turkeys and all them. 0:18:31.160 --> 0:18:33.399 To a lot of the Southeast States. It's kind of 0:18:33.400 --> 0:18:36.200 the places you can drive probably easily. 0:18:36.440 --> 0:18:44.880 Yeah. 0:18:45.480 --> 0:18:48.680 Man, I'm I'm looking forward to Uh, I'm looking forward 0:18:48.680 --> 0:18:52.000 to hunting. Me and Lake hunted. And I almost wanted 0:18:52.000 --> 0:18:54.040 to tell that story, but I kind of I thought 0:18:54.040 --> 0:18:59.320 about saving that story for the Turkey Stories episode for 0:18:59.640 --> 0:19:00.000 next year. 0:19:00.119 --> 0:19:00.320 Year. 0:19:00.600 --> 0:19:04.000 Yeah, I thought it. There's some I thought it could work. 0:19:04.119 --> 0:19:06.920 So I'm torn as quick as it happened. It did 0:19:07.000 --> 0:19:09.560 have enough turns in it to make it funny. And yeah. 0:19:09.640 --> 0:19:12.760 Yeah yeah, so it's a good story. I make them 0:19:13.520 --> 0:19:14.840 make them way teas. 0:19:15.080 --> 0:19:15.920 Yeah. Yeah. 0:19:16.440 --> 0:19:19.040 Now what's your best what's your best story from this year? 0:19:19.400 --> 0:19:20.240 Do you have a good one? 0:19:20.440 --> 0:19:20.680 Yeah? 0:19:21.440 --> 0:19:24.040 Our hunt so I could teue the one from last 0:19:24.040 --> 0:19:27.320 week in Tennessee is uh. The way I was actually 0:19:27.760 --> 0:19:29.480 talking to a buddy this morning, I told my story. 0:19:29.480 --> 0:19:29.720 I said. 0:19:29.720 --> 0:19:32.520 The best way I explained this is I've never so 0:19:32.680 --> 0:19:36.000 finally ridden the line of you screwed this up and 0:19:36.080 --> 0:19:37.800 oh my gosh, how did you hold that together? 0:19:39.440 --> 0:19:43.040 And so that's my every day line. Look, man, look 0:19:43.240 --> 0:19:44.480 driving down the highway. Yeah. 0:19:44.640 --> 0:19:47.640 So I was with my buddy Gary Stanton and we 0:19:47.640 --> 0:19:49.720 were in oh Musket bloodline. 0:19:49.760 --> 0:19:52.359 Oh yeah, that's some good boys, man. Me and Gary 0:19:52.480 --> 0:19:53.760 know each other because of Turkey On. 0:19:54.520 --> 0:19:57.520 Yeah, we had been on phone calls with each other, 0:19:57.600 --> 0:20:00.359 and then they had the COVID year they had to 0:20:00.400 --> 0:20:04.040 cancel touring. And uh I'd met the dude in person 0:20:04.080 --> 0:20:06.280 for the first time at a hotel at an airport 0:20:06.400 --> 0:20:08.840 in Maine, and me and me and Jordan picked him 0:20:08.920 --> 0:20:13.560 up in an electric blue Hyundai rental car and we 0:20:14.320 --> 0:20:17.320 hunted for four days. We've been budgeting in. Yeah, we've 0:20:17.320 --> 0:20:18.240 been buddies ever since. 0:20:18.400 --> 0:20:21.840 Oh yeah, I like I talked to him, not often enough. 0:20:22.240 --> 0:20:23.040 He's a good guy. 0:20:23.400 --> 0:20:25.960 So, uh so Gary had me up this place in 0:20:26.000 --> 0:20:29.920 North Tennessee and my day, my morning was made before 0:20:30.040 --> 0:20:32.320 the turkey's even hit the ground, because I'm sitting there 0:20:32.520 --> 0:20:35.600 and turkeys are gobbling and then Bible whack Quil started 0:20:35.600 --> 0:20:36.280 whistling on the. 0:20:36.320 --> 0:20:38.720 Edge of this field. I'm like, this is great, Oh God. 0:20:39.160 --> 0:20:42.000 So the turkey's hit the ground and I figure out 0:20:42.119 --> 0:20:44.199 real quick I'm in a flock situation. I'm like, oh 0:20:44.280 --> 0:20:46.800 my gosh, this flock situation has followed me from home. 0:20:46.880 --> 0:20:47.600 Everywhere we went. 0:20:47.640 --> 0:20:50.159 I've been dealing with flocks the turkeys with and so 0:20:50.160 --> 0:20:51.760 they don't do anything, and we're like, let's make a 0:20:51.760 --> 0:20:54.640 loop around, and we end up going to the clear 0:20:54.720 --> 0:20:57.080 other side of the property. We crossed this steep creek, 0:20:57.119 --> 0:20:59.879 climb up to the top, and here in turkeys. But 0:20:59.920 --> 0:21:02.719 I told Gary said, man, I've not had a turkey 0:21:02.760 --> 0:21:05.680 gobble at me all morning, Like I'm here, like other 0:21:05.720 --> 0:21:07.639 than like a hoodoo or a crow call, but not 0:21:07.680 --> 0:21:10.439 it yelping. I'm like, man, And I was telling him, 0:21:10.440 --> 0:21:12.120 I said, this is kind of following me from home. 0:21:12.160 --> 0:21:13.720 They've just kind of been in that mood. They're staying 0:21:13.760 --> 0:21:15.960 in flocks later than I've expected them to. It's just 0:21:16.600 --> 0:21:19.639 kind of been like that, kind of easing down this ridge. 0:21:19.880 --> 0:21:23.399 And I put that call in my mouth and I 0:21:23.480 --> 0:21:27.199 yelped kind of mid volume one time, and nothing, and 0:21:27.240 --> 0:21:31.840 then I got on it pretty hard and Turkey jumps 0:21:31.840 --> 0:21:33.840 over it and I looked at Gary said that's different. 0:21:35.119 --> 0:21:38.520