1 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:09,720 Speaker 1: Hi. 2 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 2: I'm Laura Vanderkamp. I'm a mother of five, an author, journalist, 3 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:14,440 Speaker 2: and speaker. 4 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:19,120 Speaker 3: And I'm Sarah Hart Hunger, a mother of three, practicing physician, writer, 5 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:22,280 Speaker 3: and course creator. We are two working parents who love 6 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 3: our careers and our families. 7 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 2: Welcome to best of both worlds. Here we talk about 8 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:30,360 Speaker 2: how real women manage work, family, and time for fun, 9 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 2: from figuring out childcare to mapping out long. 10 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:34,200 Speaker 1: Term career goals. 11 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:39,320 Speaker 2: We want you to get the most out of life. 12 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:43,479 Speaker 1: Welcome the best of both worlds. This is Laura. 13 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:46,960 Speaker 2: This episode is airing in mid January of twenty twenty six. 14 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 2: We are going to be talking about nearly effortless good habits. 15 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 2: So there is a certain cynicism out there about New 16 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:56,800 Speaker 2: Year's resolutions that they are destined to fail. I was 17 00:00:56,880 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 2: just reading a statistic that has been batted around a 18 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 2: lot that's something like ninety one percent of New Year's 19 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 2: resolutions fail. 20 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:04,560 Speaker 1: I don't think they have to. 21 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:07,440 Speaker 2: I think the problem is that people set really ambitions, 22 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 2: ones that have no chance of succeeding in life as 23 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 2: it actually is. But there are lots of small things 24 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:15,840 Speaker 2: that people can do differently if they want, and can 25 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 2: usually stick with them if they want as well. I mean, Sarah, 26 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 2: why do resolutions tend to fail? Or what makes some 27 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 2: happen more than others? Yeah, I have a couple thoughts 28 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 2: on that. I mean, the first is that I guess 29 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 2: I will just caveat that. I don't think a person 30 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:33,960 Speaker 2: not meeting every single goal in their list is an 31 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:36,400 Speaker 2: overall fail. If you set ten goals and you meet 32 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:38,680 Speaker 2: six of them, you might have done six really awesome things. 33 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 2: That's something to be celebrated, not oh I failed, So 34 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:44,480 Speaker 2: that's number one and number two. I do think like 35 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 2: the goals that are at highest risk of failing are 36 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 2: I've thought about this. It's the size, it's the emotional 37 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:55,639 Speaker 2: intimidation or emotional fraughtness, or maybe they lack any degree 38 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 2: of urgency or accountability. And then also that will relate 39 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 2: to this episodisde Habit goals can be really dangerous because 40 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 2: if you're setting a habit goal, it means you're setting 41 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 2: out to do something multiple times. And because you're setting it, 42 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:10,359 Speaker 2: it's probably something you failed to do in the past. 43 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 3: So setting it without a very clear strategy as to 44 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 3: what makes this round different from before is really kind 45 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:21,360 Speaker 3: of dangerous. Territory. If you're going to set your habit goals, 46 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 3: you better be thinking about what's going to support that, 47 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 3: what's going to make this easier, and what it's going 48 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 3: to make this experience different than it has been in 49 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:29,240 Speaker 3: years past. 50 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, So I think aiming for simple, Aiming for something 51 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:37,840 Speaker 2: that is often set to a specific time of day 52 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 2: or is tied into something else that you already do 53 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 2: that might be enjoyable. 54 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:47,800 Speaker 1: Right, That would deal with the motivation aspect. 55 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:50,919 Speaker 2: But really and then having a good reason for doing 56 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 2: it is all things that would help with that. But 57 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 2: I had this post on my vander Hack's substack newsletter 58 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 2: a couple months ago or a couple weeks ago that 59 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 2: was about Laura's little list of nearly effortless good habits, 60 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 2: and I heard from a certain reader known as Sarah 61 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 2: Hartunger that she's. 62 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 1: Like, I like this, So we thought, you know, we 63 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:14,119 Speaker 1: can share some effortless good habits on this episode as well. 64 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:17,639 Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, I loved this list. It made me think 65 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:19,680 Speaker 3: and I thought it would be a really fun thing 66 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 3: to talk about on the show. If you are not 67 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:24,680 Speaker 3: subscribed to vander Hacks, you're missing out, that is my opinion. 68 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 2: Well, we can talk about some nearly effortless good habits. 69 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:31,799 Speaker 2: We can talk about some bad habits that we can 70 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 2: try to avoid. We will pivot toward that at the 71 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 2: end of this episode. But if you are looking for 72 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 2: some substitute New Year's resolutions, maybe you haven't really thought 73 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 2: about it, or the ones you've set are no longer 74 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 2: appealing to you. 75 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 1: Already here in mid January. 76 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 2: Maybe some of these will be good, so we'll go 77 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 2: ahead and start with them. My first one is to 78 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 2: add a library stop into your weekly or perhaps bi 79 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 2: weekly schedule. Right, so many people say they want to 80 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 2: read more in the new year, or even set a 81 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 2: goal for the number of books they will read. But 82 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 2: reading a lot means always having compelling books on hand. 83 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 2: And it is much easier to have compelling books on 84 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 2: hand if you are constantly bringing in a fresh supply 85 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 2: of books that look appealing to you. So one way 86 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 2: to do that without going broke is to stop by 87 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 2: the library regularly. So I've built this into my life 88 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:31,640 Speaker 2: this year. My youngest child sings in the church children's choir, 89 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 2: and they have rehearsals at a certain night per week 90 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:35,919 Speaker 2: where it works for me to pick him up and 91 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 2: the large branch library in my community is fairly close 92 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:43,039 Speaker 2: to the church, so I can go there because I 93 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 2: have more or less exhausted the sort of books I 94 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 2: like at my local branch library, which is much smaller. 95 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 3: Sarah, you do this right, Yeah, I mean I tend 96 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:54,039 Speaker 3: to do a lot of ordering of books like on reserve, 97 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:56,280 Speaker 3: and then I'm very lucky in that my library is 98 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:59,120 Speaker 3: on my commute home, so I tend to build it in. 99 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:01,920 Speaker 3: I wouldn't say I have a regular day, although it 100 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:04,800 Speaker 3: does absolutely appeal to me to just think, like on Wednesdays, 101 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 3: I always stop at the library and pick up my 102 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 3: holds and return what I'm finished with. So I might 103 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 3: make this a little bit more of a regular occasion 104 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 3: based on this recommendation. 105 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 2: Well, see, I'm not putting lists of books I want 106 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 2: to read for me, it's the discovery factor, Like I 107 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 2: like to look at the shelves and see, ooh that 108 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 2: looks appealing, And one of the things I often get 109 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 2: is coffee table books. And this is a very conscious 110 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:31,920 Speaker 2: way to reduce the tendency to scroll because I am 111 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:36,680 Speaker 2: looking at beautiful photos of like nicely decorated houses or 112 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:42,160 Speaker 2: vacation destinations or things like that beautiful gardens, which is 113 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:44,000 Speaker 2: exactly the sort of thing I would be looking at 114 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 2: on Instagram, but in analog form, I love. 115 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:50,240 Speaker 3: It, and probably a lot more in most cases, a 116 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:53,600 Speaker 3: lot more effort to when into each page than each story, 117 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 3: perhaps exactly. 118 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:57,679 Speaker 1: All right, Sarah, what's next next? 119 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 3: Is from Laura. I will add water on your nightstand 120 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 3: and drink some of it when you wake up. So 121 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 3: I read all these habits, and many of them I'm like, ooh, 122 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:07,920 Speaker 3: I would totally do that, or I already do that, 123 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 3: and this one I'm like, Nope, not happening. I am 124 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:13,599 Speaker 3: not a thirsty human. I wrote that on the human 125 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:15,480 Speaker 3: spectrum of thirst on the scale of one to ten, 126 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 3: I am a zero. I believe it's genetic. My sister 127 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:20,520 Speaker 3: is the same way. I do drink water in the 128 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 3: morning with my coffee, mostly because I need a vehicle 129 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 3: to like take my vitamins and my cardiac medicine. But yeah, 130 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 3: I don't need the water on my nightstand. I would 131 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:31,240 Speaker 3: just spill it. But if you do, you should. 132 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:33,280 Speaker 1: You could put it in a water bottle and then 133 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 1: that makes it less likely to spill. But I do 134 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:37,800 Speaker 1: you drink it when I get up in the morning. 135 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 2: I mean, I like to have it there in case 136 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:40,680 Speaker 2: I wake up in the middle of the night and 137 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 2: decide I am thirsty, since I am not a zero 138 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:44,039 Speaker 2: on a one to ten scale. 139 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 1: I did not know this about you, Sarah. 140 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:47,600 Speaker 2: I haven't noticed, like when we're hanging out, like, oh, 141 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 2: Sarah never has a glass of water. Sarah never has 142 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:51,920 Speaker 2: a water like This isn't something I've seen. 143 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 3: But it was handy in my running days because I 144 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:55,280 Speaker 3: would never carry water. 145 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 2: But then how do you keep, like medically from having 146 00:06:58,279 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 2: a problem. 147 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:01,360 Speaker 3: Well, when I was running in the heat, I would 148 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:04,240 Speaker 3: drink water every few miles, but I just never needed 149 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:06,719 Speaker 3: it so desperately that I wanted to carry it with me. 150 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 3: And I guess I just drink just enough to maintain 151 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 3: my equilibrium. 152 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 2: So yeah, things we didn't know we now know about 153 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 2: Sarah that she apparently does not experience thirst like the 154 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 2: rest of us. So Sarah, okay. Number three, Plan your 155 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 2: listening material. So if you spend a lot of solo 156 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 2: time in the car, this time can be spent listening 157 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 2: to random things, or it can be spent listening to 158 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 2: intentional things. So simply as part of your daily planning, 159 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 2: like if you have a time where you plan your day, 160 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 2: which I hope you do that you set out your 161 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:42,680 Speaker 2: to do list for work, or your intentions for your 162 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 2: golden hours, whatever it is. Think about what you will 163 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 2: be listening to while you are driving around in the car. 164 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 1: Now. 165 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:52,240 Speaker 2: Obviously, if you're driving people with you, you can talk 166 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 2: to them, but if there's solo time in the car, 167 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 2: is there a particular podcast like this one you might 168 00:07:57,040 --> 00:08:00,160 Speaker 2: want to listen to, or is there some sort of 169 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 2: cool music you would like to listen to a particular audiobook, 170 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:08,600 Speaker 2: But some way to use this time intentionally so it 171 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 2: does not feel like a complete waste of time totally. 172 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 3: I curate my podcast playlist regularly, and I even have 173 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 3: different shows that I really like for different days, so 174 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 3: you could curate your you know, a typical Friday commute home. 175 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:24,320 Speaker 3: I love NPR's New Music Friday. We got Laura's Long 176 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 3: Before Breakfast episodes on Wednesdays, you got Bestly Plans on Mondays, 177 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 3: and Best of Both Worlds on Tuesdays. So really, you 178 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 3: just need something for Thursday, or if you're in the 179 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 3: car a lot, you need more, But you know true, 180 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 3: but yes, I love that all right. Number four was 181 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:40,960 Speaker 3: probably inspired by Laura's New Year's resolution in twenty twenty 182 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:44,840 Speaker 3: five is eat produce for breakfast. And I was thinking 183 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:49,000 Speaker 3: about this, and I think I do this automatically as well. 184 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 3: It's just always fruit and not vegetables. I feel like 185 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:55,840 Speaker 3: vegetables would be like the level up version of this goal. 186 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 3: Are you still doing this, Laura? 187 00:08:57,480 --> 00:08:57,840 Speaker 1: I am. 188 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:00,280 Speaker 2: I am still having it produce for breakfast. But yes, 189 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:02,440 Speaker 2: it is almost always fruit for me because that seems 190 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 2: to feel better in the morning than really going overboard 191 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 2: on the vegetables. Although I'm not a posed like the 192 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 2: can me great, you know, like an omelet with mushrooms 193 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:14,079 Speaker 2: or broccoli or something like that. 194 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 1: That would be very tasty, And I'm. 195 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:18,560 Speaker 2: Not that organized in the morning to make it, but 196 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:20,959 Speaker 2: I'm sure some people are and that would be great. 197 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:23,720 Speaker 1: But I have been doing this for the past year. 198 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:26,320 Speaker 2: It is so easy, and I'm pretty sure I've been 199 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 2: eating more fruit as a result, because it nudges you 200 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:32,079 Speaker 2: to have fruit in the house so that you can 201 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 2: eat it for breakfast, and you tend not to only 202 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:37,560 Speaker 2: buy a serving for breakfast, like you will buy six 203 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 2: apples instead of one apple, and then you've got more 204 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:42,319 Speaker 2: apples in the house. That need to get eaten, or bananas, 205 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:44,439 Speaker 2: and then before they go bad, you wind up eating 206 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:49,200 Speaker 2: them or something. But it's not hard, and it is 207 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 2: a way to eat more good stuff. All Right, we're 208 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:53,560 Speaker 2: going to take a quick ad break and then we'll 209 00:09:53,559 --> 00:10:09,320 Speaker 2: be back talking with nearly effruitless good habits. Well, we 210 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 2: are back talking through a list of nearly effortless good habits. 211 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:17,080 Speaker 2: If your original New Year's resolutions are either not happening 212 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:19,880 Speaker 2: or feeling like they're very big and not giving you 213 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:22,959 Speaker 2: that sort of daily boost of motivation that you want, 214 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 2: here are some substitute ones you might try. 215 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:30,560 Speaker 1: So our next one is to downsize a little. 216 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:35,240 Speaker 2: So if there is any treat that you consume close 217 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:38,560 Speaker 2: to daily, and if there is a convenient way to 218 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:43,200 Speaker 2: make it slightly smaller, you can wind up making it 219 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 2: a little bit still fun but not feel quite so 220 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:50,840 Speaker 2: over the top indulgent. And because it is done so frequently, 221 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:52,680 Speaker 2: the savings on that. 222 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 1: Part can add up. 223 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:56,880 Speaker 2: So in my case, I am a nearly daily consumer 224 00:10:56,920 --> 00:11:00,319 Speaker 2: of Starbucks strawberry aside lemonade refres. 225 00:11:00,559 --> 00:11:02,960 Speaker 3: I did not know I had reached this fever pitch 226 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:04,560 Speaker 3: of nearly daily, okay really daily. 227 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:05,640 Speaker 1: My kids got me hooked. 228 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 2: But during the past year I went from Venti down 229 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 2: to Grande on my regular orders. So it's too just 230 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:14,800 Speaker 2: a little bit less sugar, and I don't really miss 231 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:17,240 Speaker 2: the extra volume. It's it's the first couple of SIPs 232 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 2: that are good. It's not the fiftieth step. 233 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 1: I don't really need that one. 234 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 2: So, you know, with any sort of treat, like kitty 235 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 2: sized ice cream cone, right, like if you are a 236 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:29,560 Speaker 2: regular visitor to an ice cream parlor, you know once 237 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:31,839 Speaker 2: or twice a week, like getting the kiddy cone instead 238 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 2: of the bigger one. You still get those first bites, 239 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:38,319 Speaker 2: which are the ones you want. It's the others that 240 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:39,800 Speaker 2: you maybe don't need as much. 241 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:41,959 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, the mini size of dairy Quain is the best. 242 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:44,360 Speaker 3: And I will add to this the option of sharing. 243 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 3: So I often do this with like one of my 244 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:49,840 Speaker 3: kids at a restaurant, because like a restaurant sized burger 245 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:52,240 Speaker 3: and fries is definitely enough for two meals. So we'll 246 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 3: just split one and then get like share a side 247 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 3: salad or some kind of appetizer that's a little healthier, 248 00:11:57,120 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 3: and it's like a great balance and we're all happy 249 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:04,679 Speaker 3: and cost us too, all right. Number six put exercise 250 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 3: on your to do list or on your calendar. Yes, 251 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:10,079 Speaker 3: I one hundred percent agree with that. That is part 252 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 3: of my weekly planning process every week to I don't 253 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:14,840 Speaker 3: really have to decide when I do it because the 254 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:18,040 Speaker 3: timeslot is so automatic for me. But I decide what 255 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:21,319 Speaker 3: I'm going to do each day and I love seeing 256 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:24,160 Speaker 3: it there. It's like a not a guarantee, but just 257 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 3: built into my day like anything else. Is that how 258 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:27,000 Speaker 3: you do it as well? 259 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:29,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I don't even necessarily set a time. 260 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:31,680 Speaker 2: I might think about a rough time when I would 261 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 2: do it. But we're recording this on a Wednesday, and 262 00:12:35,160 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 2: I tend to make Wednesdays to do list on Tuesday 263 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:40,600 Speaker 2: at the end of the workday, and so I made 264 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 2: my list of what do I need to do on Wednesday? 265 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:46,280 Speaker 2: And on that list I put run And so I 266 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:48,480 Speaker 2: will run, like because I tend to obey the to 267 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:52,200 Speaker 2: do list, right, and I know there is a spot 268 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:54,560 Speaker 2: in my schedule where it fits, like if every minute 269 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:57,160 Speaker 2: were accounted for, and that would I didn't have it 270 00:12:57,200 --> 00:12:59,439 Speaker 2: budgeted on my schedule for that that wouldn't work. But 271 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:02,200 Speaker 2: it's not that sort of day. I have an opening 272 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 2: where I can see that it could go. Now, if 273 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:06,040 Speaker 2: you are very tightly scheduled, you might need to be 274 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:07,359 Speaker 2: a little bit more. 275 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 1: Careful with this. 276 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 2: But even if it's just a fifteen minute walk, like 277 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 2: looking at your schedule and saying, oh, well, this is 278 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:16,360 Speaker 2: a thirty minute meeting at eleven, and then I have 279 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:19,480 Speaker 2: a meeting at twelve, but that thirty minutes is open. 280 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 2: I could go walk for fifteen minutes and then check 281 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:25,640 Speaker 2: my email while eating my sandwich before. 282 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:26,520 Speaker 1: Going to my noon meeting. 283 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 2: So putting it on your to do list or schedule 284 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:34,200 Speaker 2: means it happens the next one number seven. Think about 285 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:39,000 Speaker 2: Saturday by Wednesday. So I have a little bit of 286 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 2: an elaborate approach to weekend planning where I tend to 287 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:45,720 Speaker 2: plan my weekends twice. As I plan my weeks on 288 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 2: Thursday or Friday, I'm looking forward to the next Monday 289 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:52,280 Speaker 2: to Sunday week, So then I plan the far out weekend, 290 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 2: and then I plan the one that is happening in 291 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:58,320 Speaker 2: two days much more tightly, knowing the weather and other 292 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 2: things that have come up. Most people are not going 293 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:02,840 Speaker 2: to plan their weekends twice, but if you at least 294 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:05,200 Speaker 2: think about what you're going to do, on the weekend. 295 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:08,800 Speaker 2: By Wednesday or so, you'll have more options, like if 296 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:10,840 Speaker 2: you need a babysitter, if you need to make a reservation, 297 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:13,520 Speaker 2: if you want to do a half day trip somewhere, 298 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 2: Like you're not going to wake up on Saturday morning 299 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:17,679 Speaker 2: and think, let's all get in the car and go 300 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:19,400 Speaker 2: to this place, like nobody's going to have the energy 301 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:19,800 Speaker 2: to do it. 302 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:21,440 Speaker 1: Like, you have to decide that ahead of time. 303 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 2: So giving yourself some moment on your Wednesday schedule to 304 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:27,840 Speaker 2: think through the weekend will increase the odds of having 305 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 2: good weekends. Well. 306 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:32,000 Speaker 3: I especially love this given that Wednesday has become a 307 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:35,040 Speaker 3: bigger and bigger planning day for me with my current rhythms. 308 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:38,880 Speaker 3: So I like it all right. The next one is 309 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:43,640 Speaker 3: one that is very aspirational for me. I like the idea, 310 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:46,000 Speaker 3: I don't think I can actually do it, and that 311 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 3: is to check email on the hour. And Laura had 312 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:52,760 Speaker 3: written in her habits vander Hack's post, we all know 313 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 3: it's best to check email less frequently. I know it 314 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:57,440 Speaker 3: can be hard to pull off if people are expecting responses. 315 00:14:57,600 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 3: So for me, it is not that people are expecting 316 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:02,680 Speaker 3: response and says it's that of all the vices and 317 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:04,600 Speaker 3: like dopamine hits that one could be attracted to in 318 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 3: the world. I don't do any social media anymore. I'm 319 00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:10,520 Speaker 3: just sort of like left with email, and I find 320 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 3: it very hard to resist when I am in moments 321 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:16,720 Speaker 3: of downtime checking my email. Now, sometimes I'm busy enough 322 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:19,160 Speaker 3: that that doesn't happen every hour, so great, But if 323 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:22,040 Speaker 3: I happen to, i don't know, be doing something very 324 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 3: boring like catching up on charts or something. It's very 325 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:27,440 Speaker 3: hard for me to do this. So I guess I'm 326 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 3: just going to share my real world experience. Lest anyone 327 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:33,640 Speaker 3: listen to this and think, wow, these two are just 328 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:37,440 Speaker 3: making every habit sound incredibly easy when I don't. Well, 329 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 3: for me, this one would be difficult. It sounds awesome. 330 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:42,800 Speaker 3: Maybe I'll try to focus on it at one point, 331 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 3: but sounds challenging. 332 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:47,360 Speaker 2: So to be clear, the idea of checking email on 333 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:50,000 Speaker 2: the hour is to get people to check email less. Yes, yeah, 334 00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:52,800 Speaker 2: because I know that many people through the workday are 335 00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:56,280 Speaker 2: sort of constantly in their inbox, and the problem with 336 00:15:56,360 --> 00:15:58,640 Speaker 2: that is that you feel busy, but you aren't getting 337 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:02,280 Speaker 2: much done beyond response to things like you're not doing 338 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 2: any of the things that you need to execute on, 339 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:06,880 Speaker 2: Like your day kind of goes back and forth between 340 00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:10,000 Speaker 2: email and meetings, and sometimes even during the meetings, you're 341 00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:13,960 Speaker 2: multitasking your email. So rather than have that happen and 342 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 2: feel like you've gotten through the whole day and haven't 343 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 2: gotten to anything other than the email, check on the 344 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:21,720 Speaker 2: hour and then get out of it. Right So, if 345 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:23,600 Speaker 2: you're in your inbox, like be in it for ten 346 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:26,920 Speaker 2: to fifteen minutes or whatever, and then don't be after that, 347 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:30,840 Speaker 2: because that will open up time for you to think 348 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 2: to do other projects, and then you could go back 349 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 2: in on the hour and you can sort of nudge 350 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:41,200 Speaker 2: yourself to wait forty minutes and know that you're still 351 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:44,440 Speaker 2: being responsive, Like most people will not notice that you're 352 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:47,080 Speaker 2: not responding for like forty five minutes, but that at 353 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:48,800 Speaker 2: least buys you some additional time. 354 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 3: Totally makes sense, and maybe that is something I will 355 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:55,960 Speaker 3: aim for in the future, because I do see the 356 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 3: rationale behind it. And to be clear, I don't check 357 00:16:58,240 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 3: it all day long. It's just that when I get 358 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:01,880 Speaker 3: in so and moods or certain loops, that is the 359 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 3: one one of those things I sort of can't resist 360 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 3: and you're using the opal app on This is that 361 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:10,680 Speaker 3: I am currently using the opal app actually, and I 362 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:13,000 Speaker 3: really like it. I am trying to debate whether I 363 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:14,680 Speaker 3: need the paid version or whether I can just use 364 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:17,800 Speaker 3: the free version. But you can set certain times where 365 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:19,480 Speaker 3: and I did set my email as something I want 366 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:21,479 Speaker 3: to do less of, so that if I do want 367 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:23,120 Speaker 3: to check my email, it'll still let me the way 368 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:24,560 Speaker 3: I have it set, but I have to like wait 369 00:17:24,560 --> 00:17:26,760 Speaker 3: for the thing to like do a break, And honestly 370 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:29,359 Speaker 3: it has been a bit of a deterrent. Plus I 371 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:33,320 Speaker 3: really like the you can tell how many breaks you're 372 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:36,919 Speaker 3: It gives you more insight compared to screen time, which really, honestly, 373 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:39,720 Speaker 3: I feel like has worked worse and worse over the years, 374 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:42,639 Speaker 3: probably on purpose. So it's been helpful to be like, 375 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:44,760 Speaker 3: oh wow, that was my fifth break, Like it's someone's 376 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:46,880 Speaker 3: keeping track, you know, so. 377 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:50,040 Speaker 2: To unneat this break, I don't know, yeah, maybe I didn't. 378 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:54,400 Speaker 2: The next one, number nine is to end your meetings 379 00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:58,480 Speaker 2: ten minutes early. So if you are in charge of meetings, 380 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:01,280 Speaker 2: give yourself and your tea members a few minutes to 381 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:04,480 Speaker 2: decompress and to process any to do's coming out of 382 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:09,320 Speaker 2: those meetings by ending on the fifty minute mark. 383 00:18:09,119 --> 00:18:10,360 Speaker 1: Instead of on the hour mark. 384 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:12,480 Speaker 2: And I guess the other version of this, if thirty 385 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:14,639 Speaker 2: minute meetings, try and be done that like twenty minutes 386 00:18:14,680 --> 00:18:17,960 Speaker 2: if you can. Twenty minutes doesn't feel rude if somebody 387 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:19,480 Speaker 2: has to you to have a meeting, like if you're 388 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:22,639 Speaker 2: off the phone in twenty minutes, but it still buys 389 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:26,359 Speaker 2: you a little bit of breathing room in your schedule. Now, obviously, 390 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:27,800 Speaker 2: if you are not in charge of the meeting, it 391 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:30,679 Speaker 2: can be harder to make this happen. But try to 392 00:18:30,680 --> 00:18:33,159 Speaker 2: get the agenda for any meeting ahead of time, and 393 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:34,960 Speaker 2: if you can help edit it to make it only 394 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:38,160 Speaker 2: take fifty minutes, that would be great. You can also 395 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:42,199 Speaker 2: offer to be the timekeeper and to keep people on 396 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:44,520 Speaker 2: schedule so that you end on time and get everyone 397 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:45,320 Speaker 2: off to their next thing. 398 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:48,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I would say, at best, please don't go 399 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:52,520 Speaker 3: over the time allotted for the meeting. I mean, unless 400 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 3: there's an emergency. Realize that some people may consider it 401 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:58,560 Speaker 3: really really frustrating and disrespectful. I may or may not 402 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:01,000 Speaker 3: be one of those people. So yeah, there you go, 403 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:04,280 Speaker 3: all right, Number ten move by three pm or it 404 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:06,920 Speaker 3: writes ten minutes of movement by midday is pretty easy 405 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:08,760 Speaker 3: and forces you to build in a real break. I 406 00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:11,480 Speaker 3: love that I generally exercise before three pm, in part 407 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:15,560 Speaker 3: because I know myself and I don't really enjoy afternoon 408 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:17,600 Speaker 3: or evening workouts, So I really like to do that 409 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:20,000 Speaker 3: in the morning. And I would even add to that, 410 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:23,639 Speaker 3: maybe aim to make ten minutes of that movement outside 411 00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:24,800 Speaker 3: if you can. 412 00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:27,560 Speaker 2: If you can't, yeah, well, and to be clear here, 413 00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:29,320 Speaker 2: I'm not even talking about doing a full on, like 414 00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:32,320 Speaker 2: hour long gym workout. Do that by three pm. Say 415 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:35,400 Speaker 2: just move your body for ten minutes by three pm. 416 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:37,400 Speaker 1: That is a lot easier to pull off. 417 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:39,280 Speaker 2: It's just you know, going up and down the stairs 418 00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:41,639 Speaker 2: a few times, if it's walking your kid to the 419 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:44,040 Speaker 2: bus stop and then taking a walk around the block 420 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:46,920 Speaker 2: on the way home. But something to not have been 421 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 2: sitting for ten hours by three pm. 422 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:53,359 Speaker 1: That's the goal here. Awesome, all right. 423 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:58,040 Speaker 3: Number eleven. Look at your goals frequently. Yes, I'm a 424 00:19:58,119 --> 00:20:00,639 Speaker 3: huge fan of this, in part because with the planning 425 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:02,720 Speaker 3: system that I teach and my courses and everything talks 426 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:04,719 Speaker 3: about looking at your annual goals every season and your 427 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:08,320 Speaker 3: changestal goals every month, et cetera, et cetera. You will 428 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:10,880 Speaker 3: not remember your annual goals if you do not pull 429 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:13,199 Speaker 3: them out at some point throughout the year. And in 430 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:16,240 Speaker 3: my opinion, it's best to do that systematically, not just assume, 431 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:19,119 Speaker 3: oh yeah, you know, I'll do that when the spirit 432 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 3: moves me. 433 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:22,520 Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, if you're going to bother to set goals, 434 00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:24,760 Speaker 1: you should look at them. And it's not a hard 435 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:25,360 Speaker 1: thing to do. 436 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:27,640 Speaker 2: You just have to have them somewhere that you can 437 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:30,080 Speaker 2: see them. So figure out where is the place that 438 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:31,680 Speaker 2: you will see these goals. 439 00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 1: And where will you look at them? When will you 440 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:34,280 Speaker 1: look at them? 441 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:36,600 Speaker 2: And that in and of itself is more likely to 442 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:38,200 Speaker 2: have you stick with them. All right, We're going to 443 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:40,239 Speaker 2: do one more before our second ad break, and this 444 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:40,920 Speaker 2: one is. 445 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:42,080 Speaker 1: To capture it. 446 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 2: So stop telling yourself that you will remember things, because 447 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:48,199 Speaker 2: you won't. If something occurs to you, either put it 448 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:50,840 Speaker 2: on your calendar or planner immediately, or else email it 449 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:54,040 Speaker 2: to yourself so you can process it to those places later. 450 00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 3: I hard agree, and I will say my latest thing 451 00:20:57,359 --> 00:20:58,879 Speaker 3: is to make sure that if I get a text 452 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:01,679 Speaker 3: that needs a response and I can't respond at that moment, 453 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:05,040 Speaker 3: make sure to leave it unread, so I don't mistakenly 454 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:07,960 Speaker 3: bypass it. All right, we'll be back in just a 455 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 3: couple minutes with number thirteen. 456 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:25,920 Speaker 2: Well, we are back with our list of nearly effortless 457 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:29,200 Speaker 2: good habits. These are little things that you can try 458 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:32,800 Speaker 2: as resolutions. If your big ones aren't happeninggger or are 459 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:35,639 Speaker 2: not particularly motivating to you anymore, you might try adding 460 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:38,280 Speaker 2: these in. Or if you haven't thought of all your resolutions, 461 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:39,720 Speaker 2: these are ones you can add to the list. 462 00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:44,640 Speaker 1: So number thirteen is to trash or recycle junk mail immediately. 463 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:47,480 Speaker 2: Obviously, it's even better if you can stop it from coming, 464 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:49,200 Speaker 2: and there are places you can go to opt out 465 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:51,440 Speaker 2: of various mailings. But if you can't do that, or 466 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:53,720 Speaker 2: you don't, just don't let it linger on the counter 467 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:54,479 Speaker 2: or in a basket. 468 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:56,400 Speaker 1: It makes everything feel more cluttered. 469 00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:59,440 Speaker 2: As you get it from the mailbox, walk it straight 470 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:01,680 Speaker 2: to the recycling been or trash unless you are. 471 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:02,639 Speaker 1: Keeping it totally. 472 00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:05,239 Speaker 3: Agree process mail every day, and I would add to that, 473 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:09,440 Speaker 3: do not keep any newspaper once you've received the next one. 474 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:11,720 Speaker 3: So if you get it daily, get rid of the 475 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 3: next days. If you get it weekly, get rid of 476 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:15,320 Speaker 3: it by the time the next week rolls around. 477 00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:17,440 Speaker 2: I'll argue on the magazine ones, I'm happy that I've 478 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:19,520 Speaker 2: kept some of my old magazines because I like looking 479 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 2: back at like the holiday issues, you know, in years 480 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:24,440 Speaker 2: in the future, especially the ones that aren't publishing anymore, 481 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:26,360 Speaker 2: like Martha Stewart Living. 482 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:28,200 Speaker 3: But hey, yeah, I figured the magazines might be a 483 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:31,040 Speaker 3: little more debatable. But nobody needs to keep their newspapers. 484 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:36,200 Speaker 3: So this next one is to set a bedtime. Now 485 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:38,000 Speaker 3: you do not have to observe it. That's why this 486 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:41,439 Speaker 3: is a really nearly effortless good habit. It's more that 487 00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:45,520 Speaker 3: you just know what your bedtime is. You are grown up, 488 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:47,040 Speaker 3: and you can decide to blow past it. 489 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:49,760 Speaker 2: But knowing what time you should get in bed on 490 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:52,800 Speaker 2: weekdays can nudge you to make it happen slightly more often, 491 00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:55,560 Speaker 2: especially if you set some sort of reminder for thirty 492 00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 2: minutes prior in order to start winding down. 493 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:00,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, and since I complained about Apple, I will say 494 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:02,360 Speaker 3: Apple does do a decent job that you can set 495 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:04,000 Speaker 3: a wind down. It will tell you on your watch, 496 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:06,080 Speaker 3: it will tell you on your device, It will even 497 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:09,280 Speaker 3: change your screen color, all sorts of things to remind 498 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:11,600 Speaker 3: you and I think that can actually be useful for 499 00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:14,200 Speaker 3: many people whose device might be one of the key 500 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:16,400 Speaker 3: culprits in keeping them from going to bed. 501 00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:17,360 Speaker 1: All right. 502 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:21,240 Speaker 3: The next one is to schedule a quarterly pickup. This 503 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 3: is another one for me that I was thinking that 504 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:25,720 Speaker 3: this would be hard, but then I was reading it, 505 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:27,760 Speaker 3: I'm like, well, she doesn't mean a quarterly clean out 506 00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:29,680 Speaker 3: your house, but just to make sure you have someone 507 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:32,200 Speaker 3: coming every few months to take your stuff, and that 508 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:35,159 Speaker 3: that might move you to have donations set aside. That 509 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:37,920 Speaker 3: feels a little bit more doable to me. I also, 510 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:39,879 Speaker 3: some people may live in a neighborhood like mine that 511 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:43,000 Speaker 3: has a bulk pickup schedule, so that you know that 512 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:44,800 Speaker 3: there's a day every month. Make sure you know what 513 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:47,720 Speaker 3: that day is so that you can then go through 514 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:49,480 Speaker 3: the house and take advantage of it, as it's a 515 00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:51,520 Speaker 3: service you're probably paying for whether you use. 516 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:51,879 Speaker 1: It or not. 517 00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:56,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's lots of companies like green Drop will come 518 00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:58,199 Speaker 2: to your house if you schedule a pickup and you 519 00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:02,439 Speaker 2: put your donations on the and sometimes just knowing that 520 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:05,720 Speaker 2: day is coming up is going to make you get 521 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:08,480 Speaker 2: rid of a few more things than you would have otherwise. 522 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 2: So I think we'll just do maybe two more of 523 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:16,160 Speaker 2: our good habits. This one is very easy and fun, 524 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:19,600 Speaker 2: which is to find an accountability partner. So no need 525 00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:22,560 Speaker 2: for anything fancy, but just find someone in your life 526 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:25,720 Speaker 2: that you will check in, maybe just via email once 527 00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:28,680 Speaker 2: a week or so, about how life is going and 528 00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:31,880 Speaker 2: if you are making progress on any sort of long 529 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:34,520 Speaker 2: term projects or goals, or just sort of updating on 530 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:37,040 Speaker 2: any issues you're having and weighing in on it. 531 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:39,679 Speaker 1: But just so you have you might make progress on 532 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:41,520 Speaker 1: your goals, just so you have something to email to 533 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:42,280 Speaker 1: this person about. 534 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:44,919 Speaker 3: Yeah, I definitely have text friends, and I feel like 535 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:48,000 Speaker 3: I discuss goals with which I love, so can be 536 00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:50,520 Speaker 3: informal and then evolve into something where you really check 537 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:53,240 Speaker 3: in with each other. Well, we can't skip track your time. 538 00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:57,600 Speaker 3: That's number seventeen. Laura says it's effortless. But if it 539 00:24:57,600 --> 00:24:59,520 Speaker 3: were so effortless, would I be able to do it 540 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:02,520 Speaker 3: more insistantly? I love tracking my time on a like 541 00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:05,200 Speaker 3: one off basis, but a couple of weeks per season. 542 00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:08,879 Speaker 3: So this is my plug to try it, even if 543 00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 3: it's not something you want to do all of the time. 544 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:14,159 Speaker 2: Absolutely all right, And now we're going to pivot to 545 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:18,440 Speaker 2: a list of little habits not to do so small 546 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:22,720 Speaker 2: bad habits that maybe this is the year to kick 547 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:27,960 Speaker 2: first one hitting snooze. Sarah, you're with me on this one. 548 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:30,359 Speaker 3: Right, I am so with you. That would have been 549 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:32,240 Speaker 3: the first one you came up with that, and I'm like, hey, 550 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:34,840 Speaker 3: that was going to be my first one. I just 551 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:38,199 Speaker 3: I don't see the appeal. You're ruining your sleep, but 552 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:42,280 Speaker 3: you're not getting up. Why it's the worst of all situations. 553 00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:45,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, if you're going to wake up later, just set 554 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 2: your alarm for that time and enjoy every single minute 555 00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:51,600 Speaker 2: of sleep up until that moment, right, Like, be honest 556 00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:54,359 Speaker 2: about it, Like it would be better to sleep for 557 00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:57,320 Speaker 2: another twenty seven minutes than to wake up every nine 558 00:25:57,320 --> 00:25:58,880 Speaker 2: minutes three times like that. 559 00:25:59,000 --> 00:25:59,960 Speaker 1: It just sounds terrible. 560 00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:03,640 Speaker 3: I think there are some people who might defend their 561 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:06,199 Speaker 3: snooze by saying, well, I kind of want warning and 562 00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:08,320 Speaker 3: like maybe I'll sleep lighter over those nine minutes, and 563 00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:10,080 Speaker 3: like it's I don't know, so I mean, to be fair, 564 00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:12,439 Speaker 3: I'm not someone who has trouble getting up, so for 565 00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:14,560 Speaker 3: me to be like this is so dumb. Maybe that's 566 00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:16,640 Speaker 3: unfair for people who find it really hard to get 567 00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:19,480 Speaker 3: up in the morning. But I would say, try life 568 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:20,000 Speaker 3: without it. 569 00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:22,600 Speaker 2: But then maybe we should go to bed earlier the 570 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:25,880 Speaker 2: night before. Yeah, true, is that a bedtime? 571 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:26,880 Speaker 1: Yes? 572 00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:27,680 Speaker 3: That was number. 573 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:28,320 Speaker 1: I don't know it was. 574 00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:32,920 Speaker 2: We already talked about it. Yes, Yes, snoozing not so great. 575 00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:36,280 Speaker 2: Don't keep reading a book you hate, Sarah. Is this 576 00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:37,160 Speaker 2: a one for you? 577 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 1: Yeah? 578 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:41,080 Speaker 3: I have done this, especially if I get it's not 579 00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:43,040 Speaker 3: a problem if I hate it like ten pages in, 580 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:45,280 Speaker 3: I am pretty okay at abandoning a book fro I'm 581 00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:47,440 Speaker 3: just like, nope, not for me. But when I get 582 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:50,000 Speaker 3: like eighty or one hundred pages in, oh man, it 583 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:53,040 Speaker 3: can be really hard. Just admit to myself, like it's 584 00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:56,119 Speaker 3: just better to cut bait. But I really think it 585 00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:58,520 Speaker 3: does prevent us from reading more and it takes the 586 00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:01,080 Speaker 3: fun out of reading. So I'm really going to try 587 00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:03,360 Speaker 3: not to do this habit, and you should too. 588 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:06,520 Speaker 1: Absolutely, I will abandon a book. 589 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:08,879 Speaker 2: I abandon a book like two hundred pages in to 590 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:11,119 Speaker 2: a three hundred and fifty page book, so I you know, 591 00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:13,159 Speaker 2: I feel like I got it at that point, but 592 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:15,159 Speaker 2: it was nonfiction, right, So I mean, I guess I 593 00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:17,439 Speaker 2: may not have done that with a story, but because 594 00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:19,439 Speaker 2: it was nonfiction, of like, well, I pretty much have 595 00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:20,840 Speaker 2: the idea, but. 596 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:23,720 Speaker 3: You can with a story too. You're just like just 597 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:27,080 Speaker 3: plot getting so hackneyed. And I can't stand these characters anymore, 598 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:28,919 Speaker 3: and I don't want to pick it up. And you 599 00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:30,480 Speaker 3: know what, I can live with it. I can google 600 00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:31,240 Speaker 3: the ending. 601 00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:35,600 Speaker 1: Like that's true. You can google the ending. Oh my gosh. 602 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:37,359 Speaker 3: All right. Number three was mine, and I said, do 603 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:40,240 Speaker 3: not pick it random leftovers or food just because it's there. 604 00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:42,359 Speaker 3: I actually don't really do this, but I know a 605 00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:44,280 Speaker 3: lot of people who do, and then they're frustrated by it, 606 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:48,040 Speaker 3: and I'm like, just don't, well. 607 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:49,640 Speaker 1: Why you just like put it away, throw it out? 608 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:52,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, like either sit down or like if it's dessert, 609 00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:55,640 Speaker 3: like either order it and sit down and like share 610 00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:57,439 Speaker 3: it and enjoy it. But don't be like, oh, I 611 00:27:57,480 --> 00:27:59,840 Speaker 3: don't want it, but then like you're like stealing someone 612 00:27:59,880 --> 00:28:04,160 Speaker 3: out or like I don't know, like I just decide 613 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:05,560 Speaker 3: and then enjoy your decision. 614 00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:10,240 Speaker 1: Yes or no, I love this one. 615 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:13,280 Speaker 2: Don't say I'll replace it later if something is broken 616 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:14,800 Speaker 2: or you're out of it. Put it on a list, 617 00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:16,879 Speaker 2: or even order it right then and there. Especially the 618 00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:19,320 Speaker 2: broken things. Like we had a guest a couple of 619 00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:21,919 Speaker 2: years ago who mentioned, like, throw out your pins that 620 00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:24,080 Speaker 2: are broken, Like it's not going to suddenly start working. 621 00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:25,800 Speaker 1: Like if you write with it, it doesn't work. 622 00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:28,600 Speaker 2: Don't put it back in the drawer or you're just 623 00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:32,360 Speaker 2: going to repeat that frustration the next time you pull 624 00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:34,240 Speaker 2: it out, so into the trash it goes. 625 00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:36,040 Speaker 3: I would have to don't think I add one for 626 00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:39,480 Speaker 3: my children. That's like, don't put back empty snack containers 627 00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:42,120 Speaker 3: a yes, or the. 628 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:44,160 Speaker 2: One sip of milk is in the container and it 629 00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:45,760 Speaker 2: goes back because they didn't want to deal with it. 630 00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:49,160 Speaker 1: So like if I leave one sip, it's not my problem. 631 00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:53,440 Speaker 3: Empty person say, that's so true. And also on a 632 00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:56,560 Speaker 3: food note, do not buy perishable food without a basic 633 00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:59,000 Speaker 3: idea of how you're going to use it. 634 00:28:59,120 --> 00:28:59,720 Speaker 1: You don't need. 635 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:02,120 Speaker 3: To detailed day by day plan if that's not how 636 00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:04,200 Speaker 3: you like to do things. But don't like buy a 637 00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:08,080 Speaker 3: box of rootabagas unless you have already found a recipe 638 00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:09,320 Speaker 3: for rudebega soup. 639 00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:11,280 Speaker 1: I think with. 640 00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:14,360 Speaker 2: That, I mean because one of our first habits was 641 00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:17,800 Speaker 2: to add produce to breakfast, and so you have to 642 00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:21,120 Speaker 2: have a plan here in the sense of, like, it 643 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:23,360 Speaker 2: can be food you like and you're buying more of 644 00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:24,880 Speaker 2: it to nudge you to eat more of it, but 645 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:26,960 Speaker 2: you have to have a general time of when you're 646 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:29,400 Speaker 2: going to eat it. So like, these are the apples 647 00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:32,479 Speaker 2: I am going to eat for breakfast. If I am 648 00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:37,280 Speaker 2: buying ruda begas, then if you went shopping on a Sunday, 649 00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:39,200 Speaker 2: for instance, maybe you just go ahead and prep them 650 00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:40,840 Speaker 2: right then, like, go ahead and roast them so you 651 00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:43,240 Speaker 2: can eat them as a side during the week. But 652 00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:47,080 Speaker 2: you're not going to suddenly decide in between zoom calls 653 00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:49,400 Speaker 2: when you're quickly grabbing your lunch on Tuesday and you're 654 00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:53,080 Speaker 2: working from home, like now's the time for ruda bega. 655 00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:53,959 Speaker 3: I'll just see some rudabaga. 656 00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:56,360 Speaker 1: I'm like laughing. 657 00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:58,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know why I picked that as an example, 658 00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:01,640 Speaker 3: but you get my drip, and we all can benefit 659 00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:06,960 Speaker 3: from wasting less food obviously for many many reasons. All right, 660 00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:08,920 Speaker 3: so should we head on to our Q and A. 661 00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:11,640 Speaker 3: That was such a fun episode. I enjoyed that list immensely. 662 00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:16,560 Speaker 1: Absolutely. That list are nearly effortless good. 663 00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:19,920 Speaker 2: Habits and some bad habits that might be worth kicking 664 00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:23,080 Speaker 2: this year if they happen to be issues for you. 665 00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:23,719 Speaker 1: All right. 666 00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:26,800 Speaker 2: So the question this week from a listener says, I 667 00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:29,880 Speaker 2: heard you guys talk about skiing being a good family vacation, 668 00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:32,440 Speaker 2: which even I have said, even though I don't ski. 669 00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:35,120 Speaker 2: She said, none of us know how to ski, So 670 00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:38,520 Speaker 2: is it hard to learn? And especially is it hard 671 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:40,000 Speaker 2: to learn as an adult? 672 00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:45,240 Speaker 3: Okay, I learned as a kid, so my answer may 673 00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:46,640 Speaker 3: not be accurate. I wish I could tell you, Oh, 674 00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:48,560 Speaker 3: I learned as an adult and I love it. I 675 00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:50,360 Speaker 3: do know adults who have learned to ski as adults. 676 00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:52,400 Speaker 3: In fact, I think Christine co from Edit Your Life 677 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:54,720 Speaker 3: learned as an adult and she's a pretty advanced skier 678 00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:56,920 Speaker 3: now who skis all the time, so I know it 679 00:30:57,000 --> 00:31:00,480 Speaker 3: is something that is possible. I also think you don't 680 00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:03,240 Speaker 3: have to decide you're going to learn to ski and 681 00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:06,400 Speaker 3: be like my goal is to go down every triple 682 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:10,200 Speaker 3: Black Diamond and beat everyone down the mountain. You can 683 00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:13,760 Speaker 3: learn to ski and be a comfortable skier on easy slopes, 684 00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:15,600 Speaker 3: and that can be it, and you can still enjoy 685 00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:19,120 Speaker 3: ski vacations. In fact, I will share that I generally 686 00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:22,880 Speaker 3: only do greens and Blues, maybe the occasional double blue, 687 00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:26,160 Speaker 3: but really not into trying to hurt myself at this 688 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:29,440 Speaker 3: point in my life, and my middle school learned ski 689 00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:35,240 Speaker 3: technique doesn't really support I think, the hardest and steepest 690 00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:38,280 Speaker 3: slopes that are out there. But I still really enjoy 691 00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:41,000 Speaker 3: a good family ski vacation, and I still can ski 692 00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:43,240 Speaker 3: with most of my children. Some of them may be 693 00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:47,240 Speaker 3: leaving me for steeper territory, but that's okay too. It's 694 00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:49,680 Speaker 3: such a fun family activity. So I suggest you give 695 00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:52,720 Speaker 3: it a try, and I would invest in lessons or 696 00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:55,880 Speaker 3: a place with a really well established ski school, because 697 00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:57,960 Speaker 3: that expertise makes all of the difference. 698 00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:00,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, your first day or two on the bake, you're 699 00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:03,400 Speaker 2: definitely going to want to have lessons, particularly for you 700 00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:05,120 Speaker 2: if you don't know how to ski, and then their kids. 701 00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:07,800 Speaker 1: The upside of I mean, the reason we've. 702 00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:10,400 Speaker 2: Suggested the ski vacation for a family vacation is a 703 00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:13,520 Speaker 2: lot of the major resorts do, in fact have ski schools, 704 00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:17,000 Speaker 2: so you can put your five year old in ski 705 00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:19,720 Speaker 2: school from nine to three, and then the adults can 706 00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:23,680 Speaker 2: go ski different hills or ski with older children than 707 00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:25,680 Speaker 2: they might if you were trying to keep pace with 708 00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:27,440 Speaker 2: a five year old. Of course, in my case, the 709 00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:28,880 Speaker 2: five year old would be a lot better than me 710 00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:30,240 Speaker 2: because I do not ski. 711 00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:32,280 Speaker 1: However, I will say that even if. 712 00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:35,120 Speaker 2: You are a person who doesn't ski, if your spouse 713 00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:38,080 Speaker 2: skis or some of your kids ski, it still might 714 00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:41,160 Speaker 2: be worth doing as a family vacation because of that. 715 00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:44,560 Speaker 2: So I can now put the five year old in 716 00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:48,600 Speaker 2: ski school. The others can all ski with Michael, who's 717 00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:53,040 Speaker 2: been skiing forever. I can sit in the lodge, I 718 00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:56,680 Speaker 2: can sit in the apartment whatever. So when we went 719 00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:58,560 Speaker 2: skiing as a family in March last year, that is 720 00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:01,320 Speaker 2: what I did, and took myself. 721 00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:02,960 Speaker 1: Out to lunch in the nice little lunch. 722 00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:07,440 Speaker 2: Places by the ski resorts, and so there's something for everyone. 723 00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:10,480 Speaker 2: The kids will be doing outdoor activities from like nine 724 00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:12,440 Speaker 2: to three, and then you can if the rest of 725 00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:14,240 Speaker 2: the day is on screens or whatever, but you meet 726 00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:15,640 Speaker 2: up for dinner and it's good. 727 00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:16,720 Speaker 1: So that's why we. 728 00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:21,400 Speaker 3: Yes, there is usually a lot of very cozy activities 729 00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:24,480 Speaker 3: to partake in other than skiing at many ski resorts, 730 00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:27,000 Speaker 3: so that can be a fun alternative. 731 00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:29,360 Speaker 1: Alternative for everyone. Yeah, well this has been best of 732 00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:30,000 Speaker 1: both worlds. 733 00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:30,440 Speaker 3: Love. 734 00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:32,080 Speaker 2: Oh, we have to do our love of the week. 735 00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:34,600 Speaker 2: I keep forgetting Okay, Sarah, what's your love of the week. 736 00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:36,920 Speaker 3: Well, since we were talking about skiing and being cold 737 00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:39,640 Speaker 3: and I was doing these notes at work, my heart 738 00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:41,960 Speaker 3: goes out to my Space heater at work because it's 739 00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:45,360 Speaker 3: really over air conditioned in my office unfortunately, so even 740 00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:48,640 Speaker 3: when it is very hot outside, I cannot function without it, 741 00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:51,760 Speaker 3: and I'm just so so happy that I have that 742 00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:52,760 Speaker 3: and can use it. 743 00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:56,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, gosh, doctor's offices really should not be over air conditioned. 744 00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:02,000 Speaker 3: Well, my patient rooms are. Actually my office is very cold, 745 00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:04,080 Speaker 3: like where I sit and do my notes, and it's 746 00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:06,000 Speaker 3: I have Yeah, so it's a whole thing. 747 00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:09,200 Speaker 2: That's a holy okay, all right, just checking for sheer 748 00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:10,279 Speaker 2: patient comfort here. 749 00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:14,480 Speaker 1: But my love of the week is Substack. It's a 750 00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:15,239 Speaker 1: great place. 751 00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:19,600 Speaker 2: To find newsletters on different topics. And you may be 752 00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:22,799 Speaker 2: peak substack at this point or whatever, but it's still 753 00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:24,439 Speaker 2: some cool things to discover, and it has been fun 754 00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:27,640 Speaker 2: to find sort of bigger name writers out there who 755 00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:30,680 Speaker 2: are posting things on occasion you get it straight from them, 756 00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:33,400 Speaker 2: So I kind of enjoy that. Super cool. I love it, 757 00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:35,840 Speaker 2: super cool. Yeah, Well, this has been best of both worlds. 758 00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:38,319 Speaker 2: We've been talking nearly effortless good habits. We will be 759 00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:39,240 Speaker 2: back next week. 760 00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:41,240 Speaker 1: With more and making work and life fit together. 761 00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:46,080 Speaker 3: Thanks for listening. You can find me Sarah at the 762 00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:50,480 Speaker 3: shoebox dot com or at the Underscore shoe Box on Instagram, 763 00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:54,800 Speaker 3: and you can find me Laura at Laura vandercam dot com. 764 00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:58,080 Speaker 1: This has been the best of both worlds podcasts. 765 00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:01,000 Speaker 2: Please join us next time from more on making work 766 00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:02,400 Speaker 2: and life work together.