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Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to this episode of the

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Speaker 1: Weekly Zeitgeist. Uh. These are some of our favorite segments

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Speaker 1: from this week, all edited together into one NonStop infotainment

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Speaker 1: laugh stravaganza. Uh. Yeah, So, without further ado, here is

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Speaker 1: the Weekly Zeitgeist. We wanted to talk about the raid

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Speaker 1: that happened last week on Michael Cohen, h Donald Trump's lawyer,

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Speaker 1: because it's it's sort of slowly dawning on us, all

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Speaker 1: of the ramifications that this has. And yesterday, Uh, Cohen

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Speaker 1: and his lawyer had a day in court. Uh, and

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Speaker 1: I don't know there there were a couple of surprises.

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Speaker 1: They were basically in there begging the judge to be like,

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Speaker 1: don't let the prosecutors look at whatever they took, can

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Speaker 1: you promise us judge talking about no, I mean we

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Speaker 1: maybe I'll entertain the idea of like a special master

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Speaker 1: or something I think is what she said, which is

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Speaker 1: like a third party to look so that the prosecutors

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Speaker 1: wouldn't see either or whatever. Whatever. Yeah, And there was

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Speaker 1: also talkic taints teams about what communications are tainted or whatnot.

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Speaker 1: Unfortunately it's not about the perennial area that was called

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Speaker 1: the perennium, the taint itself, which perennial perennial flowers. Look.

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Speaker 1: So here's I'm not a biologist, but what I am

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Speaker 1: is someone who wildly speculates on a podcast about what

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Speaker 1: things mean in court. So well, one of the things

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Speaker 1: was over the weekend, you know, the judges like, you

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Speaker 1: need to disclose who your clients are, so we don't

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Speaker 1: have an idea what's going on. So before they filed,

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Speaker 1: they he did disclose that Donald Trump and Elliot Broidy,

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Speaker 1: who was the RNC fundraiser who also had a Playboy Meek,

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Speaker 1: and there's another stress one point something million dollars, and

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Speaker 1: then there's another playboy Bunny, who's also saying she was

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Speaker 1: involved with Trump back in the day boys involved. Is

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Speaker 1: so eight, I can't believe the most feels great to

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Speaker 1: know that Jamie Loftus and I were both employed by

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Speaker 1: Playboy at one point. Anyway, So yes, he had to

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Speaker 1: disclose the two and then they said, well, we're not

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Speaker 1: gonna say who the third one is, and then because

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Speaker 1: they would be embarrassing, and then the judge was like,

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Speaker 1: that is not a valid legal excuse to embarrassment is

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Speaker 1: not a thing exactly, so the judge says who is it?

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Speaker 1: Or like, why would it be embarrassing? And now here's

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Speaker 1: a decision on it. Instead the guy was like no,

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Speaker 1: and there was apparently an audible gasp, was like whoa yeah,

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Speaker 1: Like other attorneys who are being pundits were like, usually

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Speaker 1: at least give you a chance of it. Not so anyway,

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Speaker 1: it comes out of Sean Handy, and again the world

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Speaker 1: was a buzz. So now let's think about when that

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Speaker 1: news broke. Let's see how Fox News covered this up,

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Speaker 1: this bombshell that one of their own it might be

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Speaker 1: of the crazy ship that they've been like being like, no,

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Speaker 1: nothing to see here for a long time. So this

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Speaker 1: the actual moment where they're breaking it on Fox Jesus.

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Speaker 1: In today's proceedings that are underway right now, Stephen Ryan,

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Speaker 1: one of Cohen's attorneys, was asked by the judge to

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Speaker 1: specifically name the other name because they said it would

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Speaker 1: not fall under attorney client privilege to withhold that name.

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Speaker 1: And he stood up and named him as Sean Hannity.

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Speaker 1: So moving on, so moving on, so moving on and

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Speaker 1: forth filings over this issue since last night. Both I mean, yeah,

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Speaker 1: San not saying that's our Sean Hannity, just a Sean

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Speaker 1: Hannity was named Sean, Like that's how a cartoon would

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Speaker 1: write that. Yes, immediately after saying moving on, we fear yes.

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Speaker 1: So no, gosh, it just gives you so many ideas,

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Speaker 1: like what does this mean? DoD do Sean kill someone?

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Speaker 1: Was he trying to figure out what he can legally

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Speaker 1: don't know. I mean, we're getting involved with Michael Cohen.

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Speaker 1: Could need so many things. But again, Sean Handy was

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Speaker 1: reputation stinks. So I think on Anderson Cooper, young Coop

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Speaker 1: comes through flames. But like just I mean, just listen.

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Speaker 1: So we hear Hannity describing their relationship on his radio show,

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Speaker 1: I've known Michael a long long time, and let me

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Speaker 1: be very clear to the media, Michael never represented me

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Speaker 1: an invoice from Michael. I never paid legal fees to Michael.

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Speaker 1: But I have occasionally had brief discussions with him about

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Speaker 1: legal questions about which I wanted his input and perspective,

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Speaker 1: and assumed that those conversations were attorney client confidential. So

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Speaker 1: he seems to me saying I was not really a

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Speaker 1: client of attorney Michael Cohen's, but our conversations are confidential

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Speaker 1: because he is an attorney and I am his clients exactly.

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Speaker 1: I have it always that that skewed logic. Well, mean,

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Speaker 1: the Okams racer thing is like which Playboy model did

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Speaker 1: he's saying whatever seems to be cone specialty. Yes, exactly.

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Speaker 1: It's just so bizarre because I mean, if it really

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Speaker 1: asked Michael and someone who currently has the title actual

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Speaker 1: And another thing is clearly like there has to be

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Speaker 1: but yet Michael Clon's lawyer standing up, and I'm just

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Speaker 1: other horrible like consequences of this Trump horship. It's just

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Speaker 1: like everyone does feel compelled to sort of get their

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Speaker 1: the president is. But either way, like, based on how

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Speaker 1: based on a conversation he had, that he could be

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Speaker 1: like a whole pile of horseship Sean Hannity is, I mean,

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Speaker 1: like truly like Arthur Miller, tragic. There's something so deeply

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Speaker 1: like it's sad, It's deeply, deeply tragic. But I have

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Speaker 1: so I think he made reference to attorney client privilege

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Speaker 1: directly from Breaking Bad. This is a misconception started by

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Speaker 1: Breaking Bad, where Saul Goodman is like, put a dollar

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Speaker 1: it's not putting a dollar in somebody's pocket. It's just

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Speaker 1: establishing that that is our relationship, right, And Hannity has

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Speaker 1: I can only be crazy to a point. Right. Well,

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Speaker 1: first of all, Sean, I do want to say that.

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Speaker 1: I really think that you should have disclosed your relationship

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Speaker 1: You could have said just that you had asked him

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Speaker 1: You were difficult to under the nature, professor, I want

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Speaker 1: you had the right by the way not to identity privacy, right,

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Speaker 1: But you know, it's a complex situation when you speak

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Speaker 1: take a quick break. We'll be right back, and we're back.

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Speaker 1: We also wanted to talk about a story that is

428
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Speaker 1: about Starbucks. It's about Philadelphia, which, as we said, had

429
00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:34,359
Speaker 1: been on a roll. But that so, uh, two black

430
00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:38,200
Speaker 1: men were arrested for sitting in a Starbucks because black,

431
00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:40,760
Speaker 1: because America. I guess these two men were waiting to

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Speaker 1: meet up with a friend who showed up while they

433
00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:46,159
Speaker 1: were being arrested. But someone who worked at Starbucks was

434
00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:51,680
Speaker 1: like getting real nervous because of their implicit bias. Uh,

435
00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:54,080
Speaker 1: and thought, you know, all these people haven't anything they're

436
00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:57,080
Speaker 1: up to something, called the police, and the cops hauled

437
00:23:57,119 --> 00:23:59,400
Speaker 1: him off, and all the while this woman was recording it,

438
00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:01,560
Speaker 1: and the video went viral. I'm sure most people have

439
00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:04,280
Speaker 1: seen it, uh. And the Route actually interviewed this woman

440
00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:06,760
Speaker 1: who who made the video, who was white, and she

441
00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:09,480
Speaker 1: was saying that her friends afterwards are like calling her

442
00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:12,320
Speaker 1: and being like, what really happened, or like there must

443
00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:15,360
Speaker 1: have been something else, something else must have happened there.

444
00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:17,560
Speaker 1: It's hard for me to believe that two men of

445
00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:21,000
Speaker 1: color were just arrested simply for sitting and someone thought

446
00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:23,560
Speaker 1: they were suspicious, and it speaks I think this incident

447
00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:25,119
Speaker 1: kind of speaks to something a little bit bigger, is

448
00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:28,160
Speaker 1: that there's still this idea that I think people think

449
00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:31,320
Speaker 1: that people of color exaggerate when they describe the discrimination

450
00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:34,240
Speaker 1: they experienced, because I'm sure for some people, based on

451
00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:36,560
Speaker 1: their life experience, it would be very hard for them

452
00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:38,439
Speaker 1: to imagine something like I was just waiting for a

453
00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:41,240
Speaker 1: friend at Starbucks and I was arrested. That's crazy. But

454
00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:44,880
Speaker 1: guess what, because especially black men in this country are

455
00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:47,520
Speaker 1: looked as people who will probably take your life. That's

456
00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:50,159
Speaker 1: the default position of police who take the lives of

457
00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:52,760
Speaker 1: black men is like, I feared for my life. Meanwhile,

458
00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:54,920
Speaker 1: think about how many of these mass shooters who are

459
00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:57,840
Speaker 1: white somehow get taken into custody without getting shot. It's

460
00:24:58,080 --> 00:24:59,679
Speaker 1: I mean, this is and this is kind of the

461
00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:01,880
Speaker 1: still the same ship. And you know, I would take

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Speaker 1: an opportunity for people if you want to be an

463
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Speaker 1: ally to people of color. If you even hear people

464
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Speaker 1: think that people of color are suspicious for any reason,

465
00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:13,520
Speaker 1: you have to really unpack why it is you you

466
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Speaker 1: have this sort of idea in your head. Is it

467
00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:17,679
Speaker 1: because you really believe that, Is it because you've been

468
00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:20,000
Speaker 1: conditioned to believe that? And I'm sure there are many

469
00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:21,840
Speaker 1: people who say, well, I would never do that, But

470
00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:23,920
Speaker 1: there are also many white people who have friends who

471
00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:26,280
Speaker 1: are not white, who are fine with people of color

472
00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:28,199
Speaker 1: if they know them, you know what I mean, Like, oh,

473
00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:30,840
Speaker 1: I have black friends, but the black people they don't

474
00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:33,639
Speaker 1: know who are suddenly suspicious to them or whatever. And

475
00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:35,439
Speaker 1: I think this is just again, this is something that

476
00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:38,720
Speaker 1: people need to really evaluate. And you know, I think

477
00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:41,520
Speaker 1: the response to this has shown that some people still

478
00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:44,879
Speaker 1: really struggle believing that this kind of discrimination happens and

479
00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:48,560
Speaker 1: it's real. And yes, you simply can get fucking harassed

480
00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:51,480
Speaker 1: or discriminated because someone just thinks you're dangerous. It really

481
00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:54,359
Speaker 1: does seem like the absolute least you can do is

482
00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:57,920
Speaker 1: to start challenging, like when someone in your life says

483
00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:01,199
Speaker 1: something like casual and careless, like I mean, for me,

484
00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:04,000
Speaker 1: it makes trips home very stressful. But it's like, you know,

485
00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:05,879
Speaker 1: we're we're at a point now where you have to

486
00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:09,840
Speaker 1: do that because there are so many real world implications

487
00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:12,679
Speaker 1: of casual ship like that, where it's like, you know,

488
00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:15,280
Speaker 1: if you hear someone talk about people of color in

489
00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:17,639
Speaker 1: a way that is super dismissive and like, oh, you know,

490
00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:21,119
Speaker 1: they're sensationalizing stuff, or if you hear people talking about

491
00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:24,160
Speaker 1: like women like I. I like when ship was hitting

492
00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:26,560
Speaker 1: the fan and people, you know, give a funk for

493
00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:28,720
Speaker 1: the first time and however long you know, it's like

494
00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:30,520
Speaker 1: you I had to talk to my dad about it

495
00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:32,399
Speaker 1: because he's like, oh man, it's pretty crazy, right, and

496
00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:34,879
Speaker 1: it's like, dude, what hold on, hold on, hold on,

497
00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:39,000
Speaker 1: please stop there. Yeah, so it's hard, Like I don't know,

498
00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:43,840
Speaker 1: I don't like talking to anybody and period. I'm sure

499
00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:45,159
Speaker 1: a lot of people feel the same way. No one

500
00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:47,480
Speaker 1: wants to talk to anybody. People are a nightmare. But

501
00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:50,000
Speaker 1: uh yeah, if it is truly, the least you can

502
00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:53,560
Speaker 1: do is to point out that someone is being dismissive

503
00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:57,000
Speaker 1: of a very real thing. Yeah, because if you go

504
00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:59,359
Speaker 1: along and feeling or not saying anything, then you allow

505
00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:03,119
Speaker 1: this person out right in this fake reality. You are complicit, bitch.

506
00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:05,640
Speaker 1: But Starbucks, at the very least they're saying, oh, we're

507
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:09,560
Speaker 1: gonna have something about like invisible bias or I don't know,

508
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:12,880
Speaker 1: some kind of weird training. I mean, like, sure, we're

509
00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:17,960
Speaker 1: bringing back Oprah, Chai Christ, We're gonna put something about

510
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:20,600
Speaker 1: equality on our cups. Oh yeah, remember when they were

511
00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:25,080
Speaker 1: like let's start conversations about race. Remember that whole thing video. Yeah.

512
00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:28,040
Speaker 1: I like when Burger King is like we're queer now.

513
00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:36,040
Speaker 1: They're just they have like queer cups for a while.

514
00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:39,040
Speaker 1: They have like rainbow cups berger Kings, like, actually we

515
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:42,639
Speaker 1: the burger Kings are queer now, and it's like the

516
00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:45,920
Speaker 1: Burger Kings. I mean, if they really believe about having

517
00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:48,440
Speaker 1: it your way, you've got to be on clusive right.

518
00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:52,639
Speaker 1: You can't be that was one of mys have always

519
00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:56,520
Speaker 1: been about having it your today. And we realized that

520
00:27:56,520 --> 00:28:02,040
Speaker 1: that philosophy extends further than just a hamburger, an image

521
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:06,520
Speaker 1: that went viral. Yesterday, Stormy Daniels released the police sketch

522
00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:09,399
Speaker 1: of the man who threatened her, which I think that

523
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:13,080
Speaker 1: was when she told her story about the guy coming

524
00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:16,680
Speaker 1: up and threatening her on sixty minutes she told that story, Uh,

525
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:19,080
Speaker 1: I think everybody was like, oh, well, give us tell

526
00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:21,320
Speaker 1: us who that person was, or like, look through all

527
00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:25,040
Speaker 1: the pictures in America, let's find this motherfucker in America.

528
00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:28,399
Speaker 1: Let's find everyone. Let's look through everybody find them. But

529
00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:32,239
Speaker 1: so she did a police sketch with somebody who, you know,

530
00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:38,480
Speaker 1: police sketches are generally not super well trusted and scientifically

531
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:43,400
Speaker 1: they're not great, and sometimes they, uh make your memory

532
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:48,000
Speaker 1: of somebody's face less accurate because you're having to like match,

533
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 1: You're having to go back and forth between your memory

534
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:52,560
Speaker 1: of the thing and then what the drawing looks like,

535
00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:57,080
Speaker 1: and it sometimes gets blended other times. Super producer an A.

536
00:28:57,120 --> 00:29:01,520
Speaker 1: Josnie was saying that she thinks that sometimes people end

537
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:04,960
Speaker 1: up describing someone who is, you know, familiar to them

538
00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:08,520
Speaker 1: and not necessarily the stranger who they're trying to describe,

539
00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:13,240
Speaker 1: which is interesting because so this picture came out, Um,

540
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:19,880
Speaker 1: people were saying young Willem Dafoe, Tom Brady, uh, Starship

541
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:24,440
Speaker 1: Troopers star Casper Van Dean, and the puppet from Team

542
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:30,320
Speaker 1: America all blended together. Um, and it really does look

543
00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:33,120
Speaker 1: like a blend of all those things. And then this

544
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:38,080
Speaker 1: morning tmz uh posted an article pointing out that, uh,

545
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:42,800
Speaker 1: it's actually just her husband. The drawing is her husband.

546
00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 1: It looks almost identical to like her third husband. It's

547
00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:55,680
Speaker 1: it's very strange, crazy how much it looks like her husband. Like, yeah,

548
00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:59,160
Speaker 1: I mean they may have a point. Also, what a

549
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:03,120
Speaker 1: bob that guy suck? Yeah, his eyebrows are a mess,

550
00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:08,520
Speaker 1: but so aggressively trying to be handsome. Yeah, he looks

551
00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:12,080
Speaker 1: like mm a Barbie or like like if there was

552
00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:14,959
Speaker 1: a m M a toy, that's what he would be anyway.

553
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:18,800
Speaker 1: So yeah, this guy Brendan Miller. Uh, I thin guess

554
00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:22,320
Speaker 1: that's her husbands. Yeah, just like him. Very strange. Uh

555
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:25,040
Speaker 1: this maybe it was maybe it was him though. Yeah.

556
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:27,960
Speaker 1: To be fair to sketch artists, Uh, and this one

557
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:32,480
Speaker 1: in particular, this one seemed like they're somebody released some

558
00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:34,760
Speaker 1: of the drawings this person has done before based on

559
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:38,120
Speaker 1: you know, descriptions, and they're like spot on, so that

560
00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:42,000
Speaker 1: this is apparently the best sketch artist in America, the

561
00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:48,200
Speaker 1: Guinness World record holder for being the most successful sketcher, right, which, yeah,

562
00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:50,959
Speaker 1: that's so great. They found the right person to do

563
00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:53,720
Speaker 1: the job. That just seems weird that they looks so

564
00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:56,360
Speaker 1: much like. And we'll see if this, you know, ends

565
00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:59,280
Speaker 1: up leading to the arrest of the person who threatened

566
00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:01,600
Speaker 1: Stormy Daniels because she's saying, you know, I got a

567
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:05,000
Speaker 1: hundred thirty one thousand dollars for the person who can

568
00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:08,080
Speaker 1: identify this person, which is funny because a hundred thirty

569
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:12,120
Speaker 1: is what Michael Cohen offered her to stf you. Uh,

570
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:14,040
Speaker 1: so you know, she's you know, kind of taking a

571
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:16,600
Speaker 1: shot at him. Would she add a whole nine hundred

572
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:21,520
Speaker 1: and nine thousand more than her hundred more? Whoa do math?

573
00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:26,920
Speaker 1: Math class? Take a seat art schools. I barely went to.

574
00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 1: I was I was rehearsing for cats. But but that

575
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:35,480
Speaker 1: brings up Michael Cohen, because yesterday I was reading this

576
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:39,120
Speaker 1: thing about how just like, how even shadier this dude

577
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:40,760
Speaker 1: looks like when you really look sort of look at

578
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:43,520
Speaker 1: his neighborhood where he's from his family, so everyone knows

579
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:46,200
Speaker 1: he's friends with Felix Sader, who's like a lot of

580
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:48,360
Speaker 1: people are saying like he might be his connection to

581
00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:51,480
Speaker 1: to Russia or whatever, because that guy, Felix Sater, his

582
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:55,000
Speaker 1: dad was like a coppo and a organized crime syndicate

583
00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:58,520
Speaker 1: that was considered to be one of Russia's largest um

584
00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:01,440
Speaker 1: And then we find out that his uncle owned a

585
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:05,080
Speaker 1: Brooklyn social club which was a well known meeting spot

586
00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:08,560
Speaker 1: for members of both the Italian and Russian UH mafia,

587
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 1: So like the seventies and eighties, and then they're saying,

588
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:14,760
Speaker 1: up until the nineties, it was considered some people, I think,

589
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:16,720
Speaker 1: I guess some people law enforcement were considering it the

590
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:19,520
Speaker 1: sort of headquarters where the Russian mafia literally ran their

591
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:22,160
Speaker 1: entire crime organization out of UH. And that's like a

592
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:25,960
Speaker 1: place that Michael Cohen's family owns. It's like he owned

593
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:29,640
Speaker 1: Bata being essentially basically it's called the Elk Bay UH

594
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:32,320
Speaker 1: and so it's it's just it's just interesting to look at.

595
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:34,959
Speaker 1: I guess the more you know, I think we're starting

596
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:36,640
Speaker 1: to see this pattern. I think we're talking about it

597
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:38,600
Speaker 1: yesterday about how this is just sort of like just

598
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:42,680
Speaker 1: the the dou fy ist uh white people mafia ever

599
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:47,040
Speaker 1: of like just really inept criminals. Uh. And and now

600
00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:49,240
Speaker 1: we're seeing like that's the world. Michael Cohen also grew

601
00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:51,600
Speaker 1: up in like where his uncle owned a mob hang out,

602
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:54,360
Speaker 1: so of course he's probably gonna be had that mindset

603
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:57,120
Speaker 1: a little bit. I mean, if you hear him talk once,

604
00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:02,200
Speaker 1: it almost like just the mafia is just pouring off

605
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:04,640
Speaker 1: of him, Like you just feel like, Okay, this guy's

606
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:09,440
Speaker 1: out of central casting for mafiosa. Right. Uh. Yeah, so

607
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:12,280
Speaker 1: it's not overly surprising. And also the fact that he

608
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:15,120
Speaker 1: like threatens to do physical harm to people on a

609
00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:17,880
Speaker 1: regular basis, Yeah, I don't think that's part of your

610
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:21,160
Speaker 1: law school training, right. I don't know. It feels like

611
00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:24,320
Speaker 1: it might be like one of those night class electives, right,

612
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:26,280
Speaker 1: but I guess, like I don't know, if you're screaming

613
00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:29,239
Speaker 1: that you'll fuck someone's soul over the phone, is like,

614
00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 1: I don't know what, I don't know. That really feels

615
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:33,920
Speaker 1: like something they teach him, like Harvard Law, and well

616
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:35,560
Speaker 1: he did not go there. I think he went to

617
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:39,080
Speaker 1: the clown School of Law or whatever. The what I

618
00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:41,680
Speaker 1: do to he was going to be disgusting. Yeah, wasn't

619
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:45,360
Speaker 1: Wasn't he like a big personal injury lawyer. Yeah, So

620
00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:49,040
Speaker 1: basically he made an entire he built himself on having

621
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:53,600
Speaker 1: like those commerce l you in a carreccident. Thanks to

622
00:33:53,640 --> 00:34:00,640
Speaker 1: Michael Cohen, I got three million dollars. We are having

623
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:05,160
Speaker 1: sort of an extended tax day today, which everybody wants

624
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:09,279
Speaker 1: to talk about. People love talking about taxes. Uh. But yeah,

625
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:14,600
Speaker 1: so the I R. S website crashed yesterday, so they

626
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:17,759
Speaker 1: extended it for I think today, just today, maybe today

627
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:19,600
Speaker 1: or maybe I don't know. They definitely had to extend

628
00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:22,480
Speaker 1: it because they're like, hey, sorry, y'all crashed our website

629
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:25,279
Speaker 1: because who knows. Of course it crashed on tax Day.

630
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:27,600
Speaker 1: But doing your taxes, getting your taxes in as a

631
00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:31,320
Speaker 1: big serious deal in America, and Miles you were pointing

632
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:36,480
Speaker 1: out that that's not really the case anywhere. Okay, imagine

633
00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:39,440
Speaker 1: everyone has done taxes in this room, and they're confusing,

634
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:42,120
Speaker 1: and most of the time you have to consult a

635
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:44,759
Speaker 1: person at H and R Block, an accountant, or use

636
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:48,120
Speaker 1: turbo tax. And because the ship is so complicated, and

637
00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:51,560
Speaker 1: the reason is so complicated is because tax prepares lobby

638
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:55,319
Speaker 1: the government regularly to keep the tax code as confusing

639
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:58,600
Speaker 1: as fucking possible. So our only option is to go

640
00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:02,960
Speaker 1: to these places. Okay, there's a block lobby, yes, oh

641
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 1: yeah big so yeah, there is such a thing as

642
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:09,040
Speaker 1: big tax now, so into it. Who makes turbo tax.

643
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:13,440
Speaker 1: They spend two million dollars on ship like basically they

644
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:15,720
Speaker 1: do not want to simplify the tax code like outright,

645
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:18,239
Speaker 1: like that's in lobbying documents that that is what they're

646
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:21,560
Speaker 1: stated purposes for their lobbying efforts. So when you look

647
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:25,560
Speaker 1: at other countries like Denmark or Sweden, or Spain or Japan,

648
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:28,279
Speaker 1: they already have systems in place where the government like

649
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:31,319
Speaker 1: sends you a prepared return, they estimate your taxes using

650
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:35,280
Speaker 1: information your employer and the bank already have because obviously

651
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:37,480
Speaker 1: they know everything that the tax like the institutions of

652
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:40,200
Speaker 1: these countries. You know, in the UK, most people don't

653
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:43,239
Speaker 1: follow returns like the government will calculate your liability or

654
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:45,200
Speaker 1: your refund and send you a check or a bill

655
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:49,640
Speaker 1: unless you're self employed. Now in my other homeland, Japan,

656
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:53,120
Speaker 1: very simple system. Okay, So the Japanese version of the

657
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:56,520
Speaker 1: I R S, which is the COCUSO, they gather all

658
00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:59,400
Speaker 1: the pertinent data for each worker, their income, taxable benefits,

659
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:01,799
Speaker 1: number of per exemptions, tax with health and so on,

660
00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:05,000
Speaker 1: and they compute how much taxpayer ohs down to the

661
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:09,480
Speaker 1: fucking last penny, the last yen. And they have precision withholding,

662
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:12,440
Speaker 1: so like they know exactly how to calculate everything, and

663
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:14,600
Speaker 1: they'll just send you a postcard just telling you, hey,

664
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:16,400
Speaker 1: this is what you made, this is your refund amount,

665
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:18,040
Speaker 1: or this is what we're actually gonna have to take

666
00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:20,960
Speaker 1: out because you underpaid your taxes and we can just

667
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:23,600
Speaker 1: take that out of your account and boom, you're done.

668
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:26,839
Speaker 1: Tell us how much we are Just tell us. Why

669
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:29,560
Speaker 1: do I have to tell you? Why am I paying

670
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:32,840
Speaker 1: somebody to tell me how much to pay you? The

671
00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:35,520
Speaker 1: funk is this it made in addition to the like

672
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:38,719
Speaker 1: turbo taxes of the world. I bet it has something

673
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:41,880
Speaker 1: to do with the fact that really really rich people

674
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:47,080
Speaker 1: can pay other can pay like attorneys and you know,

675
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:50,160
Speaker 1: accountants to find ways to get them to like not

676
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:53,000
Speaker 1: pay tax of course, yeah, because the thing is so

677
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:57,000
Speaker 1: fucking complicated. Yeah, then you need someone because also, let's

678
00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:59,360
Speaker 1: be real, tax preparation services are like they're in an

679
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:02,719
Speaker 1: existential crisis because algorithms and ship like the need to

680
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:04,480
Speaker 1: go to a human at an H and R block

681
00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:07,640
Speaker 1: is becoming like that business is shrinking, which is why

682
00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:09,680
Speaker 1: they had to get into like the turbo tax game

683
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:11,839
Speaker 1: of offering ship like H and R block at home

684
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:14,960
Speaker 1: or I think is whatever they're do it yourself website services,

685
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:17,960
Speaker 1: so they're like up against it, so it behooves them

686
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:20,920
Speaker 1: to make ship as complicated as possible. Now we are

687
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:24,560
Speaker 1: trying to change ship. Elizabeth Warren introduced a bill last

688
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:27,960
Speaker 1: year that would completely simplify the tax code and make

689
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:30,360
Speaker 1: it easier for people to just have Uncle Sam just

690
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:32,160
Speaker 1: send you the bill or be like, hey, brother, you

691
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:36,320
Speaker 1: getting this refund um. And also it'll cut down on

692
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:39,399
Speaker 1: so much eating up productivity for human beings and save

693
00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:40,640
Speaker 1: a lot of money in the long run if you

694
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:43,000
Speaker 1: do ship like this. But again, when you got people

695
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:44,960
Speaker 1: putting money at this thing to make it as complicated

696
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:47,839
Speaker 1: as possible, we have this same thing year after year

697
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:49,759
Speaker 1: after year. I feel like these stories come out all

698
00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:51,840
Speaker 1: the time where we're just talking about why can't our

699
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:54,239
Speaker 1: tax would be more simple? Here's why? Uh, And like

700
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:57,759
Speaker 1: the people who are arguing for keeping it as complicated saying, well,

701
00:37:57,800 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 1: we don't want to extend the reach of the government.

702
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:02,400
Speaker 1: You don't want them doing your taxes, Like, can you

703
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:04,239
Speaker 1: really trust the I R s to tell you what

704
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:07,320
Speaker 1: they're gonna do? Well, all of these programs are voluntary,

705
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:08,840
Speaker 1: so even if the thing you got from the government

706
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:10,560
Speaker 1: you didn't agree with, you can opt out of it

707
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:12,040
Speaker 1: and do it yourself, or you can be like, Okay,

708
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:15,200
Speaker 1: that looks cool, right, yeah, I'm with that. Again, it's

709
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:17,320
Speaker 1: just a headache because it's one of those things where

710
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:20,279
Speaker 1: most people in other countries are like what you'll have

711
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:23,400
Speaker 1: to walk you do a what box full of receipts,

712
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:26,319
Speaker 1: and like panic over what kind of food you can

713
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:28,239
Speaker 1: write off as an entertainment expense or whatever. It's just

714
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:30,720
Speaker 1: it's crazy. You can tell that it's a good idea

715
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:35,480
Speaker 1: to simplify the taxes because when the Republicans introduced their

716
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:38,680
Speaker 1: tax cuts, they claimed that they were making it so

717
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:41,920
Speaker 1: that you could just file your taxes on one side

718
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:45,879
Speaker 1: of a postcard. So like when they're lying about having

719
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:47,680
Speaker 1: a good idea, even though they don't have it, you

720
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:51,640
Speaker 1: can tell that that's right, probably worth looking into. Obviously

721
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:54,600
Speaker 1: they're not going to do anything with it, but I

722
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 1: love tax time, isn't it the favorite? Are you to

723
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:03,359
Speaker 1: do a lot of you? I take way less exemptions

724
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:05,880
Speaker 1: than I shout, And so it's kind of like a

725
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:09,520
Speaker 1: savings account and I get a return every year and

726
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:12,759
Speaker 1: then I buy something dumb? Would you buy this year?

727
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:19,200
Speaker 1: A computer? Oh? You idiot? Fool, you fool. Do the

728
00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:22,520
Speaker 1: pointing and the clicking. Well, I hope it's a nice computer.

729
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:26,719
Speaker 1: Thank you so much. Okay, well there's hit a nice computer. Yes, okay,

730
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:30,080
Speaker 1: that's part of why it was dumb. You only do

731
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:32,400
Speaker 1: two things. Yeah, it's like you don't need a on

732
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:37,120
Speaker 1: gaming tower? Needed the gaming tower? Yeah? I need the

733
00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:40,919
Speaker 1: graphics card. How am I going to watch to music

734
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:43,960
Speaker 1: video clips and New Kids on the block? It is

735
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:51,319
Speaker 1: one less than uh Hitler's birthday, the chilliest day of all.

736
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 1: Uh no that it's all National weed Day. I don't know.

737
00:39:57,640 --> 00:40:01,920
Speaker 1: All right, what do you a happy? You take it

738
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:06,359
Speaker 1: from here? Take it from here? Yeah, well, bro, let's

739
00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:10,359
Speaker 1: talk a really I want to talk about drug Um.

740
00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:14,600
Speaker 1: There was this, uh the International Journal of Drug Policy

741
00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:16,640
Speaker 1: just released a little bit of a report on their

742
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:19,200
Speaker 1: sort of analysis of just sort of the different forms

743
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:22,200
Speaker 1: of like drug policy that is out there, especially in

744
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:25,680
Speaker 1: the United States, Like after many conferences like the leading

745
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:29,160
Speaker 1: uh drug policy experts, they are kind of concluded or

746
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:31,640
Speaker 1: just you know, they did some research with economist, criminals,

747
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:33,200
Speaker 1: other people and be like, Okay, let's look at the

748
00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:37,080
Speaker 1: different forms of drug laws we have, so we'll talk

749
00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:40,080
Speaker 1: specifically about weeds since it's you know, four nineteen uh.

750
00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 1: In this country, it's you know, absolute prohibition that we

751
00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:45,200
Speaker 1: have here where it's just completely illegal from a federal

752
00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:47,480
Speaker 1: standpoint and you just can't have it on no way.

753
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:50,200
Speaker 1: And then there's decriminalization, which sort of how it was

754
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:53,440
Speaker 1: in this state, uh when there was medical marijuana, like

755
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:56,000
Speaker 1: and when it was first introduced, where you could consume

756
00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:58,360
Speaker 1: and possess it, but it wasn't considered a full on

757
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:01,960
Speaker 1: criminal offense, but the drug was still considered illegal. But

758
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:04,560
Speaker 1: now that we have recreational use laws were more like

759
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 1: the state control of the market, which is where the

760
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:09,720
Speaker 1: state can sort of regulate everything from the age limits

761
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:12,239
Speaker 1: to control of production and sales. Where we're not quite

762
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:15,560
Speaker 1: there where the government is actually controlling the means of production,

763
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:18,080
Speaker 1: but they do have real regulations that make the market

764
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:20,520
Speaker 1: sort of safe for consumers where they have it tested

765
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:23,360
Speaker 1: to make sure you're not, you know, smoking crazy pesticides,

766
00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:25,560
Speaker 1: or have it in proper packaging to make a child

767
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:27,239
Speaker 1: safe and things like that. And then you have the

768
00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:30,600
Speaker 1: unfettered free market where drugs are just treated no differently

769
00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:33,640
Speaker 1: than any consumer. You're like a fucking hat. Can I

770
00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:36,759
Speaker 1: ask a very dumb question about the state of legalization

771
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:39,520
Speaker 1: in California? Right? No? Um? Does it mean that I

772
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:41,799
Speaker 1: could go into a medman or a weed store and

773
00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:44,040
Speaker 1: buy a marijuana cigarette and then walk down the street

774
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:45,879
Speaker 1: and smoke it in the world. So you can't smoke

775
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:48,640
Speaker 1: it in public. You can consume privately, but you cannot

776
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:51,400
Speaker 1: consume it out in the open. Uh. So, yes, you

777
00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:54,400
Speaker 1: could go into amdmen and buy your jazz cigarette. And

778
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:57,879
Speaker 1: what do you think, Like, it's I mean, no one's

779
00:41:57,880 --> 00:41:59,800
Speaker 1: gonna know. No one's gonna know if the gummy bears

780
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:02,480
Speaker 1: are are like magic gummy bears. Yeah, unless you're like,

781
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:05,279
Speaker 1: unless you're being so aggressive where you're like, hey, guys,

782
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:07,759
Speaker 1: I'm about to eat one of those weed candies. I

783
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:09,719
Speaker 1: wouldn't be aggressive, Like when I go to Vegas and

784
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:11,799
Speaker 1: allow you to drink in the street. I look at

785
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:14,160
Speaker 1: cops when I do it because I'm really enjoying the freedom.

786
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:17,759
Speaker 1: So if I did have uh weed gummy bears, I

787
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:20,800
Speaker 1: would scarfing down in front of a cop, being like,

788
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:23,400
Speaker 1: does it just have like the big bag opens? Like,

789
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:26,400
Speaker 1: oh what QUI could these be? I would not suggest

790
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:31,759
Speaker 1: scarfing down edible spot maybe take one to a half. No, No,

791
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:33,759
Speaker 1: you're like, let's just do a little experiment. But what

792
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:35,719
Speaker 1: if I'm trying to be like nasty in front of

793
00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:37,640
Speaker 1: a cop. Yeah, yeah, that's true. I mean I hope

794
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:41,680
Speaker 1: it's worth Yeah. So, I mean it's just interesting. I

795
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:44,440
Speaker 1: think for most people, we probably realized that the complete

796
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:49,680
Speaker 1: criminalization of of marijuana was an absolutely absurd idea. But again,

797
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:52,640
Speaker 1: it's just good to know we're moving closer and closer

798
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:56,040
Speaker 1: to acceptance and kind of embracing in a way that's

799
00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:59,239
Speaker 1: creating tremendous tax revenues and can be put to good use.

800
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:01,279
Speaker 1: See when you look at things like when you have

801
00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:04,439
Speaker 1: states where teachers are literally about like striking because they're

802
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:07,080
Speaker 1: not getting the proper pay and things like that, Wow,

803
00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:09,359
Speaker 1: you could probably use a couple hundred million in tax

804
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:11,440
Speaker 1: revenue in a state like that to do some ship.

805
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:14,080
Speaker 1: So you know, again, I'm probably preaching to the choir

806
00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:16,200
Speaker 1: to some people who listen. But again, I think you

807
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:17,880
Speaker 1: check out this study that will post you in the

808
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:20,360
Speaker 1: foot notes, you know, just you can learn yourself a

809
00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:23,800
Speaker 1: little bit about how these forms of drug policy effect.

810
00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:27,120
Speaker 1: It's in different ways and what might be best going forward.

811
00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:30,239
Speaker 1: So which one came out on top. Is there a

812
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:32,640
Speaker 1: country that like has the policy that we should be

813
00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 1: trying to I mean, they weren't looking at it so

814
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:37,280
Speaker 1: much as like a country we should adopt, because again

815
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:39,040
Speaker 1: they're sort of looking at through the lens of like

816
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:41,640
Speaker 1: the United States too, and what that means for consumers

817
00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:44,520
Speaker 1: in this country. But again again it seems like the

818
00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:48,000
Speaker 1: most sort of from like the benefits and cost of it,

819
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:53,080
Speaker 1: Like state control has like the highest social impact that's positive,

820
00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:55,279
Speaker 1: and the high states. This is what you're arguing for

821
00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:58,040
Speaker 1: states rights as usual. Man, if you don't want to

822
00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:01,839
Speaker 1: bake somebody a cake, you don't to write me. That's

823
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:06,719
Speaker 1: you know, I get down. No, And that's a joke

824
00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:08,960
Speaker 1: in case somebody's listening for the first time, that's not

825
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:11,080
Speaker 1: my real stance. All right, we're gonna take a quick

826
00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:22,080
Speaker 1: break and we're back. I just wanted to talk about

827
00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:26,800
Speaker 1: Barbara Bush, who passed yesterday. Who you know. I guess

828
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:30,800
Speaker 1: just based on her appearance, I had always sort of

829
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:36,400
Speaker 1: associated her with a kind lady um. And I do

830
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:40,440
Speaker 1: remember in two thousand five, while visiting victims of Hurricane

831
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:45,319
Speaker 1: Katrina at the Astrodome, her saying some wildly problematic shit

832
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:50,480
Speaker 1: about how like because they're underprivileged anyway, this is working

833
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:54,279
Speaker 1: quote very well for them, um, which The New York Times,

834
00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:58,040
Speaker 1: by the way, described as her candor sometimes got her

835
00:44:58,040 --> 00:45:00,880
Speaker 1: in trouble. That's not candor. That is just being a

836
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:07,200
Speaker 1: fucking classist, racist loon. Um. But that's not the point, right.

837
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:09,640
Speaker 1: I do want to also focus on the fact that, yeah,

838
00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:15,640
Speaker 1: you know, she was also just kind of a hardass badass.

839
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:19,600
Speaker 1: Like I assumed that her obituaries would not be the

840
00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:22,760
Speaker 1: most interesting obituaries to read, and like she was actually

841
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:26,920
Speaker 1: crazy interesting. And like there are these quotes from her

842
00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:29,440
Speaker 1: childhood friends who would say that they would come on

843
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:31,880
Speaker 1: the school bus in the morning and they say, quote,

844
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:34,480
Speaker 1: it would be all planned, nobody's going to talk to

845
00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:37,000
Speaker 1: June this morning. You'd sit there on the bus with

846
00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:39,160
Speaker 1: your friends and no one spoke to you. It was

847
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:41,560
Speaker 1: a dreadful feeling. So Barbara was coming on the bus

848
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:43,200
Speaker 1: and being like, you're not talking to her, You're not

849
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:46,399
Speaker 1: talking to her, you're talking to me. This excommunicating here.

850
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:49,200
Speaker 1: So that's one one of her friends, just like real

851
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:56,960
Speaker 1: housewiving right in the just like world class like legendary

852
00:45:57,040 --> 00:46:00,479
Speaker 1: mean girl. Uh. And then another childhood friend is giving

853
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:03,920
Speaker 1: a hypothetical scenario and she said she'd call ahead and say,

854
00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:06,839
Speaker 1: we're not going to speak to June this morning. So

855
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:12,000
Speaker 1: again they in June Man, two different people, two different

856
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:14,920
Speaker 1: people are talking about how she froze this girl June

857
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:18,399
Speaker 1: out when she was like a child. What did June do? Yeah,

858
00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:20,600
Speaker 1: And she would also, like me, probably wore pink on

859
00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:24,719
Speaker 1: a Wednesday, right, she wore white after Labor Day, so

860
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:26,880
Speaker 1: she can get the funk. She would make fun of

861
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:30,880
Speaker 1: her friends for like stammering or you know, oh no

862
00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:37,799
Speaker 1: she was today today. Yeah, damn. She's like the originator

863
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:42,000
Speaker 1: of all this cool original Billy Madison. Right. In reading

864
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:44,680
Speaker 1: her obituary, you really get the sense that she was

865
00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:48,520
Speaker 1: sort of the brains and the balls behind the operation,

866
00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:53,200
Speaker 1: like behind their couple like that. It's just interesting that, uh,

867
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:55,160
Speaker 1: you know. There's also a quote in one of the

868
00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:59,000
Speaker 1: obituaries where someone says. People always said Nancy Reagan would

869
00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:02,080
Speaker 1: kill you if you said bad stuff about her, says

870
00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:04,680
Speaker 1: one staff aide who worked closely with the Bushes. But

871
00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:06,839
Speaker 1: I always thought Mrs Bush was the one who would

872
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:12,320
Speaker 1: kill you, um, which I don't know, well, I didn't

873
00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:15,319
Speaker 1: know that about Nancy Reagan either. I just think it's

874
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:18,160
Speaker 1: interesting to like we should take a look back at

875
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:21,640
Speaker 1: first ladies who were you know, like this, who were

876
00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:24,640
Speaker 1: just you know, it was at a time when a

877
00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:28,360
Speaker 1: lot of like brilliant and really tough women had to

878
00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:32,200
Speaker 1: sort of sublimate themselves to their husband's careers. And like,

879
00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:34,399
Speaker 1: I really feel like in a lot of cases you'll

880
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:37,440
Speaker 1: find that it was basically the women like who are

881
00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:40,719
Speaker 1: calling the shots, like, because Reagan did not seem like

882
00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:43,879
Speaker 1: a very tough person, but apparently Nancy was just like

883
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:46,719
Speaker 1: not fucking around. And it's also that thing of like

884
00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:50,880
Speaker 1: the husband and the wife could have the same exact behavior,

885
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:54,799
Speaker 1: and the woman's would be much more received as hostile,

886
00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:58,040
Speaker 1: where the man's would be received as like tough boy,

887
00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:01,440
Speaker 1: does he get it right? Right? You know? And so

888
00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:05,120
Speaker 1: like I always wonder in scenarios where we are talking

889
00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:07,560
Speaker 1: about it like that, how much of it was, was

890
00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:10,360
Speaker 1: that how much of it was just a woman saying

891
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:13,600
Speaker 1: things right, I mean, she had full right to to

892
00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:16,640
Speaker 1: maybe say yeah, no, I totally like I'm saying that

893
00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:19,920
Speaker 1: I fucking respect this, like I think it's awesome because

894
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:23,240
Speaker 1: people have like genuine affection for her, but also seemed

895
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:26,239
Speaker 1: to be terrified of her, like yeah, and like when

896
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:28,520
Speaker 1: then when you look at like what their depictions are

897
00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:31,880
Speaker 1: descriptions of her childhood time too was even like you know,

898
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:35,840
Speaker 1: she basically told everybody she ran ship from Jump Street

899
00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:38,759
Speaker 1: if it was the school bus, she fucking ran who

900
00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:41,120
Speaker 1: even spoke to whom you know what I mean? And

901
00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:45,200
Speaker 1: then taking shots at uh, who's at Geraldine Ferraro She

902
00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:48,680
Speaker 1: referred to as quote that four million dollar I can't

903
00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:51,680
Speaker 1: say it, but it rhymes with rich. And then everyone's like,

904
00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:54,200
Speaker 1: so she referred to this person as a four million

905
00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:56,959
Speaker 1: dollar bit, just like that was her nickname. But then

906
00:48:57,200 --> 00:48:59,760
Speaker 1: she knew the optics that she was like the description

907
00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:01,440
Speaker 1: of the right up of her like she was mortified

908
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:03,880
Speaker 1: that she had let slip the mask that had concealed

909
00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:06,520
Speaker 1: the mean streak that had first emerged in her childhood.

910
00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:09,880
Speaker 1: She immediately apologized to Ferraro and kept her salty tongue

911
00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:12,880
Speaker 1: in place for years afterward, So I don't know if

912
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:15,319
Speaker 1: the salty tongue thing is after Do you remember when

913
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:18,400
Speaker 1: Jeb was about to run and or like was running

914
00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:21,040
Speaker 1: and um, there was a sound bite of her going like,

915
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:23,719
Speaker 1: I don't know, there's got to be another family that

916
00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:27,480
Speaker 1: should be doing this right, Like she was essentially like,

917
00:49:27,719 --> 00:49:30,480
Speaker 1: I don't it can't just be two families that are

918
00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:33,560
Speaker 1: just going to keep going back and forth. And then

919
00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:38,080
Speaker 1: she got in trouble. They were like, yeah, yeah, that's

920
00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:40,719
Speaker 1: I feel like, I bet yo. Those Bush children, the

921
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:44,440
Speaker 1: sons of George H. W. Bush, we're probably so shook

922
00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:47,040
Speaker 1: of their mother, like if that's her description, because if

923
00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:49,839
Speaker 1: you look at Jeb and g W, they're like, well,

924
00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:52,920
Speaker 1: like as if their mom would be like, is your

925
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:58,520
Speaker 1: finger painting? Are you a fucking dumb fuck? It looks

926
00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:03,360
Speaker 1: like a fucking toe painting the track? Jeb, what a

927
00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:07,719
Speaker 1: fucking name? Huh? I'm sorry, ladies, he's an idiot. It

928
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:10,000
Speaker 1: was Jeff. But I want you to be embarrassed the

929
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:16,920
Speaker 1: rest of your life, Jeb. Uh? Is that sure for

930
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:22,200
Speaker 1: Jebediah Oh? Apparently, according to the super producer on a Hosnier.

931
00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:25,400
Speaker 1: Jeb is not sure for Jebediah. It is an acronym

932
00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:28,800
Speaker 1: for his full name, which is John Ellis Bush Sr.

933
00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:31,040
Speaker 1: Or because you know why, because John was probably like

934
00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:33,719
Speaker 1: Barbara's father, and she's like, he would be disappointed in

935
00:50:33,760 --> 00:50:38,800
Speaker 1: your Jeb. Funk out of here, John, I can't. I

936
00:50:38,840 --> 00:50:45,000
Speaker 1: can hear my father's earned rattling. So uh yeah, I mean, look,

937
00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:48,359
Speaker 1: you know you were clearly the matriarch of a dynastic

938
00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:52,800
Speaker 1: political family. Uh So you know, shots to you. You know,

939
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:54,200
Speaker 1: it's never it's never nice to you never want to

940
00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:56,400
Speaker 1: hear about anyone passing away. But it seemed like she

941
00:50:56,440 --> 00:50:58,839
Speaker 1: did it on her terms too, because she I think,

942
00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:02,239
Speaker 1: refused to have any more life saving procedures over the weekend.

943
00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:06,359
Speaker 1: They reported so and just real quick, right before I die,

944
00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:10,920
Speaker 1: nobody talked to June. Yeah, right, and talked to June.

945
00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:15,759
Speaker 1: I know you showed up. We are not talked like

946
00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:18,239
Speaker 1: she's like wiping her head with a wash and she's like,

947
00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:28,440
Speaker 1: who let this bitch in here? June dollar, bitch, besides

948
00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:30,600
Speaker 1: your feet on wiki feet, what is something you think

949
00:51:30,680 --> 00:51:36,160
Speaker 1: is underrated? Underrated I would say is making an exit

950
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:39,080
Speaker 1: because I don't know I like to just disappear from

951
00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:41,839
Speaker 1: social situation, like to make an entrance but not an exit, right.

952
00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:44,760
Speaker 1: I like to crash through the ceiling but then leave quietly.

953
00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:49,480
Speaker 1: But last night I did a show at a Christian college.

954
00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:52,440
Speaker 1: I was doing a bunch of time before a Princess

955
00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:57,480
Speaker 1: Diary screening. Uh theater. It was in the mansion that

956
00:51:57,520 --> 00:52:01,000
Speaker 1: The Princess Diaries takes place in Wave for Real. Yeah,

957
00:52:01,080 --> 00:52:03,919
Speaker 1: it's at Mount St. Mary's College. I didn't mention that earlier. Yeah,

958
00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:06,520
Speaker 1: it was in the mansion that Julie Andrews lives. They

959
00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:09,160
Speaker 1: shot at Mount St. Mary's College, Yeah, they did, And

960
00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:11,400
Speaker 1: so they were showing the Princess Diaries. There is a

961
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:15,440
Speaker 1: big old Catholic sleepover. A little Jamie came in with

962
00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:17,480
Speaker 1: with her with her little jokes, and I was trying

963
00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:19,319
Speaker 1: to leave, was trying to get to my uber after

964
00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:21,960
Speaker 1: that show, and I couldn't figure out what the way

965
00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:24,799
Speaker 1: out was, and so I ended like, isn't it my

966
00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:27,920
Speaker 1: time's over? Thank you? Transaction finished, I have to go home.

967
00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:30,680
Speaker 1: I left the building and then I couldn't figure out

968
00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:33,279
Speaker 1: how to get out of the campus because I was like, oh,

969
00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:35,480
Speaker 1: there's probably an exit over here, and That's where my

970
00:52:35,600 --> 00:52:37,239
Speaker 1: uber was waiting, and I was calling him and he

971
00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:38,520
Speaker 1: was just like, where are you. I was like, I

972
00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:41,320
Speaker 1: can't figure out how to get out, and he was like, Okay,

973
00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:46,440
Speaker 1: we'll figure it out. Uberpool full you must looked like

974
00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:50,320
Speaker 1: the fucking asshole. So what I did was I scaled

975
00:52:51,120 --> 00:52:53,719
Speaker 1: a gate, which I've never done before. It wasn't a

976
00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:56,360
Speaker 1: high gate, but it was a gate. So I was

977
00:52:56,360 --> 00:53:02,080
Speaker 1: scaling the gate entire uberpool is watching and then as

978
00:53:02,120 --> 00:53:06,960
Speaker 1: I'm climbing the gate, the gate swings open and I

979
00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:11,520
Speaker 1: was right next to a gaping exit, so it was

980
00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:15,880
Speaker 1: like it looked like a gigantic morod. And then everybody

981
00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:18,960
Speaker 1: get it on video. You were going to be famous.

982
00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:23,279
Speaker 1: It was. I mean, the frame for that video would

983
00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:27,040
Speaker 1: have been clear exit right and someone on a gate

984
00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:31,200
Speaker 1: that is not even hinged close with them on it.

985
00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:34,320
Speaker 1: That's one of my favorite videos just in the history

986
00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:37,560
Speaker 1: of the Internet. Is that happening to a police officer

987
00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:40,160
Speaker 1: as he's scaling a wall to go in on a

988
00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:43,480
Speaker 1: raid and then she like gets stuck on the on

989
00:53:43,560 --> 00:53:46,560
Speaker 1: the fence with his like crotch at the top of

990
00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:48,840
Speaker 1: the fence, and then the door swings open and the

991
00:53:48,840 --> 00:53:52,200
Speaker 1: rest of the walk, right, Yeah, there's another one like

992
00:53:52,239 --> 00:53:54,360
Speaker 1: that of like this like old it's like from Russia

993
00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:56,600
Speaker 1: or something. This like guys trying to get through like

994
00:53:56,719 --> 00:54:00,400
Speaker 1: this really awful hole in a chain link fence and

995
00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:02,239
Speaker 1: he just keeps getting caught and I think he might

996
00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:04,440
Speaker 1: be drunk some because he got a black bag. And

997
00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:07,120
Speaker 1: then they pan over there's an act Will just cut

998
00:54:07,120 --> 00:54:09,040
Speaker 1: out of the gate and like these kids are walking.

999
00:54:09,239 --> 00:54:11,640
Speaker 1: But it's like the best reveal of like this guy

1000
00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:17,040
Speaker 1: struggle struggle. Then Pana. So that was that was deeply humiliating.

1001
00:54:17,040 --> 00:54:19,040
Speaker 1: And then I was in that uberpool for a half

1002
00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:27,040
Speaker 1: hour after that and no one said anything. All Right,

1003
00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:31,720
Speaker 1: that's gonna do it for this week's weekly Zeiteguys, please

1004
00:54:31,880 --> 00:54:35,200
Speaker 1: like and review the show. If you like the show,

1005
00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:40,160
Speaker 1: uh means the world to Miles. He needs your validation, folks.

1006
00:54:40,760 --> 00:54:43,839
Speaker 1: I hope you're having a great weekend and I will

1007
00:54:43,840 --> 00:55:08,600
Speaker 1: talk to him Monday. By SPA