WEBVTT - SYSK's 12 Days of Christmas… Toys: How Monopoly Works

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<v Speaker 1>Oh boy, it's time for one of my favorite episodes,

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<v Speaker 1>How Monopoly Works. This one was way more interesting than

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<v Speaker 1>I ever understood. There's a lot more to Monopoly, and

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<v Speaker 1>just as a little aside, if you think that the

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<v Speaker 1>Monopoly man wore a monocle, you're wrong. You're thinking of

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<v Speaker 1>mister Peanut. Plus also it makes sense that he would

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<v Speaker 1>be warring a monocle. It's a bit of a crime

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<v Speaker 1>that he wasn't. At any rate, here's the episode Monopoly.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to Stuff you Should Know from HowStuffWorks dot com.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark with

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<v Speaker 3>Charles W. Chuck Bryant and Jerry Rowland, which makes the

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<v Speaker 3>Stuff you Should Know.

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<v Speaker 4>It's right, got on the top, Pat and my cane monicle,

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<v Speaker 4>Monica to see it, Monica, I thought it was Now

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<v Speaker 4>it's mister Peanut.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, not mister Monopoly. And I think mister Pringle

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<v Speaker 3>has a monocle too, didn't it? Eh No, he just

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<v Speaker 3>says An Nustairs. Yeah, mister Monopoly doesn't have a monocle. Huh.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think so.

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<v Speaker 3>Huh. You'd think we'd know, we do not, But I

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<v Speaker 3>do know this, mister Monopoly is a nickname for that man.

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<v Speaker 4>That's right.

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<v Speaker 3>His born name is given name by his parents is

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<v Speaker 3>rich Uncle penny Bags. Three names, so uncle would be

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<v Speaker 3>his middle name.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah. Well he even has a regular name too.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh not that I saw.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it is Milbourne Pennybags.

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<v Speaker 3>No.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, there was a book published and this is one

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<v Speaker 4>of those after the fact deals called the Monopoly Companion,

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<v Speaker 4>and they named all the character characters on the board

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<v Speaker 4>Melbourne Penny Bags. And then the jail guy is Jake

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<v Speaker 4>the jail bird okay, and the police officer and go

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<v Speaker 4>to jail.

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<v Speaker 3>Is I'll bet a Tyris, isn't it, Officer Edgar Mallory.

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<v Speaker 3>I knew. Really you just.

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<v Speaker 4>Gets that, huh, Yeah, that's pretty bunny. We're talking about Monopoly,

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<v Speaker 4>by the way.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, yeah, this is not about anything else but Monopoly.

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<v Speaker 4>No. And I was just remarking to you, sir, how

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<v Speaker 4>I've never seen one of our This had more supplemental

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<v Speaker 4>information than most shows that we research.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I can explain why because this was written. There

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<v Speaker 3>was a whole suite of game articles written, yeah, like

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<v Speaker 3>just how to play certain games. So it kind of

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<v Speaker 3>came out in this mentality of this is the game

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<v Speaker 3>and here's how we explain how to play it, and

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<v Speaker 3>this article is done. Whereas Monopoly, it's like this is

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<v Speaker 3>more like McDonald's or Twinkies or something like that. It's

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<v Speaker 3>like a cultural cog.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah. I mean there's so much extra junk history and

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<v Speaker 4>I mean you talk about the different versions, it's ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 3>Millburn penny bangs. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>And like I said, that was a post that he

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<v Speaker 4>wasn't originally called that. This is I think Monopoly probably

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<v Speaker 4>wanted to sell a little little book or two. I'm

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<v Speaker 4>sure they did, because if one thing we've learned about

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<v Speaker 4>Parker Brothers and now Hasbro is they love selling different

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<v Speaker 4>versions of this game.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they do. They like licensing it off a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of money. They like making some changes here or there,

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<v Speaker 3>releasing a brand new game, but it's all still the

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<v Speaker 3>same game. And all of it came from a left

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<v Speaker 3>wing Quaker intellectual at the turn of the last century,

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<v Speaker 3>the Finns Keel.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah it was.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm saying that right, Yeah, sure, Okay, I.

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<v Speaker 4>Think it sounds right. And it's interesting to me that

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<v Speaker 4>the game of Monopoly, which is all about capitalism and

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<v Speaker 4>bankrupting or neighbor, yeah, was stolen. The game was stolen.

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<v Speaker 3>From a leftist intellectual Quaker.

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<v Speaker 4>In the original version of the game, it was to

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<v Speaker 4>teach against the monopolies and how they're bad.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, so let's talk about this monopoly. Actually, if you

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<v Speaker 3>trace it back to about the like the literal beginning

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<v Speaker 3>of the twentieth century, it's what's considered a folk game.

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<v Speaker 3>There were a lot of people playing versions like this

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<v Speaker 3>in cities all over the country. But again, they all

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<v Speaker 3>shared some pretty common viewpoints. I guess you today you

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<v Speaker 3>would kind of call him socialist. But for the most

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<v Speaker 3>part they were followers of a guy named Henry George.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Georgis.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he came up with this thing called Georgism, which

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<v Speaker 3>is based on some other philosophies. But the idea of

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<v Speaker 3>it is that if you produce something through through your

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<v Speaker 3>own labor, your own work, you own that that should

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<v Speaker 3>not be taxed. Right, what should be taxes things that

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<v Speaker 3>everybody owns. If somebody's taking something that belongs to everybody,

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<v Speaker 3>say a parcel of land, yeah, technically the land belongs

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<v Speaker 3>to everybody.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, that was his notion was that you shouldn't even

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<v Speaker 4>be a landowner, Like all concept of a land to

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<v Speaker 4>him was ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's based on this idea, the law of the commons,

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<v Speaker 3>which is around for centuries, if not millennia. And then

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<v Speaker 3>once people started taking land, he's like, okay, well, if

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<v Speaker 3>you're going to own land, it belongs to everybody, so

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<v Speaker 3>that should be taxed, yea, and then that tax will

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<v Speaker 3>be given back to the community for the greater good.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's Georgism, and that was kind of the philosophy

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<v Speaker 3>that formed the basis of monopoly what was originally called

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<v Speaker 3>the Landlord's Game, which was created by a lady named

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<v Speaker 3>Lizzie Maggie A G y M A g I E

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<v Speaker 3>M A g I E Yeah, almost Magpie without the

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<v Speaker 3>P right, Yeah. And she basically that was on her card.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>And she she came up with this, like you said,

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<v Speaker 3>to kind of teach, so you could go and be

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<v Speaker 3>a rich landowner and bankrupt other people and exploit the

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<v Speaker 3>poor who need your help, who need a decent place

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<v Speaker 3>to stay, and you could see yourself like the evils

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<v Speaker 3>of capitalism. But she actually came up with two sets

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<v Speaker 3>of rules for the same game. One was where you

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<v Speaker 3>got as rich as you could at the expense of

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<v Speaker 3>everybody else. Yeah. The other was a basically the community benefited,

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<v Speaker 3>and you can kind of see that today in like

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<v Speaker 3>these weird things like community chess, like why would I

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<v Speaker 3>want to, you know, pay into this pot. I don't

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<v Speaker 3>care about the community, like now it's a bad thing.

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<v Speaker 3>In her original version, it was a good thing, like

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<v Speaker 3>the community one, and that was the basis of the

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<v Speaker 3>whole thing.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, which is really ironic, it is. Yeah, like you said,

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<v Speaker 4>she created two versions, and she said, one of the

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<v Speaker 4>quotes from her is it is a practical demonstration of

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<v Speaker 4>the present system of land grabbing, with all its usual

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<v Speaker 4>outcomes and consequences. So it, you know, it's kind of

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<v Speaker 4>to teach people lessons, and she had it stolen from

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<v Speaker 4>her she did.

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<v Speaker 3>Luckily, Lizzy was smart enough to patent this game. It

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<v Speaker 3>became just kind of a trendy thing. Again, like if

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<v Speaker 3>you were into socialism at the time and you were

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<v Speaker 3>on the East Coast, you probably hung out at a

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<v Speaker 3>friend's house and played this game at some point in

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<v Speaker 3>some incarnation or another.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it was really popular, like you said, like people

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<v Speaker 4>made up some of their own rules, but it was

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, if you look at the original Landlords game board,

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<v Speaker 4>it looks a lot like the current monopoly, I mean

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<v Speaker 4>similar at least.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And apparently a lot of the rules that make

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<v Speaker 3>the game a lot more enjoyable today came from Lizzie's

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<v Speaker 3>Quaker friends. Like, for example, the original plots of land

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<v Speaker 3>were up for auction for a bid.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Quakers preferred silence, so they just put a fixed

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<v Speaker 3>price on the piece of land so there wouldn't be

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<v Speaker 3>a loud, obnoxious bidding war. They also instituted tokens, fun

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<v Speaker 3>tokens before they're just boring pawns.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, like household objects, which you know, that's why the

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<v Speaker 4>thimble is in there, and originally the iron. Yeah, we'll

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<v Speaker 4>get to those in a minute, but I know, it's

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<v Speaker 4>pretty exciting.

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<v Speaker 3>And then so this thing's being played and Lizzie Maggie

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<v Speaker 3>holds the patent, but she's not exactly like cracking down

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<v Speaker 3>on any kind of infringement really.

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<v Speaker 4>No, Well, she pitched it to Parker Brothers and they

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<v Speaker 4>said no.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so she just kind of went on doing her

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<v Speaker 3>own thing.

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<v Speaker 4>So there's another lady actually that figures into this, a

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<v Speaker 4>lady named Ruth Hoskins, and she was one of the

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<v Speaker 4>ones who caught on in the Philadelphia Atlantic City area

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<v Speaker 4>with her Quaker friends, two of them in particular, Jesse

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<v Speaker 4>and Eugene Rayford, and they are the ones who changed

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<v Speaker 4>some of the rules to make it look more like

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<v Speaker 4>the monopoly we know. They taught it to a friend

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<v Speaker 4>named Todd, and Todd brought it to his friend named

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<v Speaker 4>Charles Darrow. And that's where the story takes a kind

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<v Speaker 4>of a CD turn.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, actually, that's where the Parker Brothers official version begins. Ironically, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>things turned CD. The Brothers is like, hey, this is

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<v Speaker 3>where our story begins.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, the inventor of Monopoly, Charles.

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<v Speaker 3>Darrow, right, so he was like a radiator salesman during

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<v Speaker 3>the depression.

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<v Speaker 4>This is the thirties, right, Yeah, I mean it was ironically, again,

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<v Speaker 4>during the depression, this game really caught hold.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I supposedly that's what caught the Parker Brothers' attention

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<v Speaker 3>was that this guy came to him, came to them

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<v Speaker 3>to sell him this game which he had stolen. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Apparently he didn't innovate it at all. He kind of

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<v Speaker 4>just copied it and packaged it right, and said, hey,

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<v Speaker 4>what do you think of this?

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<v Speaker 3>And the Parker Brothers said, we don't think too much

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<v Speaker 3>of it. Like, how does the game end? We don't

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<v Speaker 3>know what's going on here, so it's just you just

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<v Speaker 3>go your own way. So Charles Darrow went off and

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<v Speaker 3>started selling it at this Wannamaker's department store in Philadelphia.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, without pattenting it, right.

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<v Speaker 3>And the Parker brothers said, you know what, it's the depression.

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<v Speaker 3>Can you believe it. We're not going to have any

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<v Speaker 3>kind of economic woes like this for another seventy eighty years.

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<v Speaker 3>And this guy's selling these things like hotcakes. You know what, sir,

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<v Speaker 3>We will buy your idea from you. And Charles Darrow

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<v Speaker 3>apparently said, well that's great. Yeah, give me the money

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<v Speaker 3>first and then I'll tell you the second part of

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<v Speaker 3>the story. Yeah, And they gave him a bag of

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<v Speaker 3>money with a dollar sign on it, much like the

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<v Speaker 3>ones that rich uncle Pennybags likes, and he said, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>we also need to buy the patent off from this

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<v Speaker 3>lady named Lizzie Maggie.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, which they did. The game was still stolen, I say,

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<v Speaker 4>even though they eventually did pay her money. But part

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<v Speaker 4>of the deal was they said they agreed to buy

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<v Speaker 4>her patent and said, you know what, we're gonna We'll

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<v Speaker 4>sell a few of your other game ideas too. None

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<v Speaker 4>of those ever went anywhere, and he was sort of

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<v Speaker 4>lost to history except for people who do a little

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<v Speaker 4>bit of digging.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and we actually have a guy named Ralph to

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<v Speaker 3>thank for doing that digging initially, and we'll talk about

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<v Speaker 3>him later.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, that's right.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, because he's the one who came up with the

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<v Speaker 3>unofficial history and like really tracked it down.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, there's a lot of teases in this one far.

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<v Speaker 3>So the Parker brothers now in the game and it

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<v Speaker 3>becomes a huge hit virtually off the bat. In the

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<v Speaker 3>thirties is when they bought it and started really printing it.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and the game is based on Atlantic City. Those

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<v Speaker 4>are the properties, and that's because that was the area

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<v Speaker 4>where it became popular. But this excellent New York Times

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<v Speaker 4>article you sent what was the name of it, Monopoly

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<v Speaker 4>Goes Corporate.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it was written by what's what's the lady's name,

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<v Speaker 3>Mary Pillan. She is a monopoly expert.

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<v Speaker 4>There's a lot of those out there, I've learned.

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<v Speaker 3>She well, she wrote a lot of the articles you'll find.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh really, yeah, she's good.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, she pointed out that it's interesting that it mirrored

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<v Speaker 4>sort of the uh. The cartography of the day in

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<v Speaker 4>Atlantic City, like Boardwalk, was clearly like a rich area

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<v Speaker 4>the Baltic and Mediterranean. The cheapest properties were in African

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<v Speaker 4>American neighborhoods. There was a reading railroad that transferred people

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<v Speaker 4>between Philly and Atlantic City. And little known fact for

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<v Speaker 4>our friends in the gay community, New York Avenue was

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<v Speaker 4>one of the earliest gay scenes in the country. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>so buy that one up and support support the LBGT community.

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<v Speaker 4>That's if you're playing monopoly. Yeah, that's what I would do.

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<v Speaker 3>And maybe just you know, don't charge anybody in the Alanta. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>just be like this is the party place.

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<v Speaker 4>That's exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>And Marvin Gardens apparently is misspelled.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, the E instead of an eye or E instead

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<v Speaker 4>of an E.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, on the board it's an I, right, it's supposed

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<v Speaker 3>to be an E.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>There's a lot of Monopoly facts dropping all around us right.

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<v Speaker 4>Now, I know it's raining thimbles.

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<v Speaker 3>Before we go any further, though, you want to do

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<v Speaker 3>a message break, Yes, okay, we'll be right pack everyone.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, So we were just talking about Atlantic City.

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<v Speaker 4>I guess it's we can go ahead and point out

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<v Speaker 4>now that there are hundreds of versions of Monopoly out

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<v Speaker 4>there now, one for your hometown, probably one for your

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<v Speaker 4>favorite sports team. I have. Personally, my version is a

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<v Speaker 4>Star Wars Monopoly nice, which is pretty fun.

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<v Speaker 3>Nice. Yeah, I guess has Bro's like, you got some money,

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<v Speaker 3>sure you can license this, make your own Monopoly game.

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<v Speaker 3>Go ahead.

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<v Speaker 4>There's a Simpsons Monopoly. I haven't played it though.

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<v Speaker 3>And now, in addition to the licensed versions that you

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<v Speaker 3>can find like everywhere, yeah, they also have like official

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<v Speaker 3>versions too, Like there's a US version. Yeah, there's a

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<v Speaker 3>UK version, there's a there's a new version that's called

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<v Speaker 3>Monopoly here and now what does that even mean? Super corporate? Oh?

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<v Speaker 4>Is this the corporate one?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? Okay, it's like everything is multiplied by I think

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<v Speaker 3>a thousand, so the dollar amounts are way higher.

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<v Speaker 4>Is this one where they replaced the the railroads are

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<v Speaker 4>replaced by airports? Yeah, it's this one where they replaced

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<v Speaker 4>corporations for all the properties. So yes, like McDonald's and

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<v Speaker 4>Sony and yeah, god, who would want to play that?

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<v Speaker 3>Some people? Do?

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<v Speaker 4>You know?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>I mean I'm not a purist because I had the

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<v Speaker 4>Star Wars version, but I just it's no fun to me.

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<v Speaker 4>To play as Paramount Pictures and to buy the McDonald's property.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's just me. So there are a bunch of

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<v Speaker 3>different versions, but the one we're going to talk about,

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<v Speaker 3>we'll just talk about the normal version with the two

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<v Speaker 3>thousand and eight rules.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and there's actually coming soon later this year. There

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<v Speaker 4>you can go online at my Monopoly and you can

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<v Speaker 4>design your own board, is that right, and do like

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<v Speaker 4>your own neighborhood. Wow, And then they will make it

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<v Speaker 4>for you. And I think it's like one hundred and

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<v Speaker 4>fifty bucks or something.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow. Money bags you can get.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, I'm not gonna do it. You can't do the

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<v Speaker 4>East Lake.

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<v Speaker 3>I was talking to whoever went and got it?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh sure, yeah, rich uncle, rich penny bags.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what you should have said, rich uncle penny bag.

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<v Speaker 3>Penny bags just sounds not that wealthy. Well, actually, I

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<v Speaker 3>have a bag of pennies on me right now.

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<v Speaker 4>He Forbes has their silly fictional fifteen list of fictional

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<v Speaker 4>characters wealth, and he in twenty thirteen was number thirteen.

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<v Speaker 3>Jeez is Stars declined, some.

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<v Speaker 4>Huh, guess who the first.

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<v Speaker 3>The richest fictional character is the Incredible Hulk.

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<v Speaker 4>No, he was not rich. Scrooge McDuck.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, well dude, he had that gold.

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<v Speaker 4>Vault apparently sixty five billion. Number two was Smaug, which

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<v Speaker 4>I thought was kind of silly.

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<v Speaker 3>Smaug from like.

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<v Speaker 4>One of the rings. It's a dragon, I think I had,

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<v Speaker 4>like it was a bunch of gold. Carlisle Cullen number three,

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<v Speaker 4>Tony Stark four, Charles Foster Kane number five.

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<v Speaker 3>Who is number three?

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<v Speaker 4>Carlile Cullen from Twilight?

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<v Speaker 3>Who is that?

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<v Speaker 4>He was the dad vampire dad of the Vampire family

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<v Speaker 4>and he's been alive forever, so I guess he just

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<v Speaker 4>keeps accumulating. Well yeah, Bruce Wayne, Richie Rich, Christian.

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<v Speaker 3>Gray, Richie Rich. I forgot about him.

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<v Speaker 4>He's number seven.

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<v Speaker 3>He had a robot made and a crazy like a

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<v Speaker 3>weird scientist friend, didn't.

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<v Speaker 4>He Sure like a Richie Rich robot of himself.

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<v Speaker 3>I think he had that too, But no, it was made.

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<v Speaker 3>Was a robot, wasn't it?

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<v Speaker 4>That was the Jetsons.

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<v Speaker 3>No, he had a too.

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<v Speaker 4>I thought Monty Burns at number ten was pretty good.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, that's going, although I would guess mister Monopoly

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<v Speaker 3>would be wealthier than Monty Burns.

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<v Speaker 4>But yeah, thirteen and they put it out each year

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<v Speaker 4>and it's dumb. Can we just admit that.

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<v Speaker 3>I was thrilled by it? Okay, we just spent three

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<v Speaker 3>minutes on it.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, well that's true.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, so Chuckers, Yeah, you want to talk about the

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<v Speaker 3>rules of the game again, two thousand and eight rules

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<v Speaker 3>if you are a Monopoly purist, and like, I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 3>that's just what we're going with.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, well, let's talk about the game board itself. Just

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<v Speaker 4>so if you haven't played it, I'm surprised because I

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<v Speaker 4>think like a billion people have played the game. But

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<v Speaker 4>if you haven't, when you get your Monopoly game, you're

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<v Speaker 4>going to open it up and you're going to have

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<v Speaker 4>a board with all these different properties and a square.

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<v Speaker 4>You have two dice twelve they call them tokens. That's

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<v Speaker 4>not the right amount either, is it.

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<v Speaker 3>No, there's eight. Yeah. I don't understand where they got

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<v Speaker 3>twelve from unless they're counting ones that maybe were retired

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<v Speaker 3>or something like that. But when you open the bottom,

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<v Speaker 3>there's only eight there. Yeah, there's a can we go over, Sure,

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<v Speaker 3>there's a wheelbarrow, a Scottie dog, Yeah, top hat, a

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<v Speaker 3>cat which replaced the iron in twenty thirteen. Yeah, there

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<v Speaker 3>was a big two do because Parker Bros. Has Bros. Like,

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<v Speaker 3>we haven't made a lot of money off of this

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<v Speaker 3>for a couple months, so let's just do something.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, they let people vote at least, which is kind

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<v Speaker 4>of cool, right.

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<v Speaker 3>But it was also did you see the other ones

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<v Speaker 3>that they were voting for, like a robot? Yeah, Richie

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<v Speaker 3>Rich's made a guitar, a guitar. They didn't make the

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<v Speaker 3>cut though, No, they got voted out and the cat

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<v Speaker 3>got voted in. Yeah, the iron got booted.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I only got eight percent of the vote. There's

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<v Speaker 4>the classic shoe of course, or boot, which is modeled

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<v Speaker 4>after a nineteen thirties working shoe, and I think they've

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<v Speaker 4>kept it the same.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's one of the original ones. The Scottie Dog

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<v Speaker 3>was not one of the originals that came in the fifties.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and I think that was supposed to be the

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<v Speaker 4>companion of Millbourn money pinny.

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<v Speaker 3>Is that right?

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<v Speaker 4>Benny bags, Penny bags should be cash bags, fat stacks,

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<v Speaker 4>hatstacks bag. There was a cannon which has since been retired. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>and the military, well, the cannon and the battleship. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>they were from a failed game called Conflict and they

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<v Speaker 4>were like, well, we got all these pieces. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>let's just throw them a monopoly for now.

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 4>It's pretty smart.

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<v Speaker 3>But they faced the cannon out because it's just too

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<v Speaker 3>overtly violent.

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<v Speaker 4>It just says with any without any fanfare or vote

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<v Speaker 4>or campaign. So probably, yeah, that'd be my guess. If

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<v Speaker 4>it's hush hush, yeah, it's probably because of violence.

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<v Speaker 3>There's a conspiracy afoot. There's the race car. Yeah, every

0:19:46.080 --> 0:19:48.679
<v Speaker 3>little kid's favorite, which apparently had a number three on

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<v Speaker 3>the side for a little while.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I didn't know that. Yeah, they Earnhardt.

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<v Speaker 3>I guess so.

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<v Speaker 4>Uh or purse has been retired. Yeah, the rocking horse

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<v Speaker 4>was retired. Yep, the lantern was retired.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, I'm doing my best Ben Bull in pressing.

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<v Speaker 3>Did you do did you get wheelbarrow in there yet?

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<v Speaker 3>I think I know, yes I did. It was the

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<v Speaker 3>first one I said, could we say top hat?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah? That was always my favorite.

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<v Speaker 3>Actually I don't remember what my favorite was.

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<v Speaker 4>It fit on my pinky and I used to draw

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<v Speaker 4>faces of oh yeah, the horse and rider, which is retired,

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<v Speaker 4>which I didn't know. That's one of the best pieces

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<v Speaker 4>to me.

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<v Speaker 3>What you didn't know was retired?

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<v Speaker 4>Now yeah, it's kind of sad. Yeah, and now they're

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<v Speaker 4>and the sack of money was retired as well.

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<v Speaker 3>The sack of money and a purse, those are a

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<v Speaker 3>little similar.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I'm the cat. Come on, yeah, cat people.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sure they're like, yeah, yeah, that's exactly right. I

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<v Speaker 3>guarantee that's why they got cat voted in.

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<v Speaker 4>And I am a cat person, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>And even you think it's stupid exactly. So those are

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<v Speaker 3>the tokens. Some of those tokens that we mentioned you're

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<v Speaker 3>going to find in the two thousand and eight set.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and that is your piece, that is what represents

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<v Speaker 4>you in the game. Yes, again for the three people

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<v Speaker 4>who have never played Monopoly.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, yeah, because supposedly, at least as far as Hasbro calculates,

0:21:10.480 --> 0:21:14.720
<v Speaker 3>over one billion people have played Monopoly, and frankly, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>surprised is that low?

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<v Speaker 4>It sounds like an old number.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Okay, So you've got the box open, you got

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<v Speaker 3>the board, you got two dice, you got the tokens,

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<v Speaker 3>thirty two houses, yeah, in twelve hotels, yeah, sixteen chance cards,

0:21:30.880 --> 0:21:35.159
<v Speaker 3>sixteen community Chess cards, Yeah, a title D card for

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<v Speaker 3>each property. It's got the information on it, like how

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<v Speaker 3>much it cost to purchase, sure, how much rent is

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<v Speaker 3>depending on how many houses or hotels you have on it. Yeah,

0:21:42.840 --> 0:21:45.680
<v Speaker 3>what the mortgage value's worth, that's right. And then you've

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<v Speaker 3>got your play money, your monopoly money. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Man, I think that's where it grabs kids because and

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<v Speaker 4>they even pointed out in this article that's it's kind

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<v Speaker 4>of the first time a lot of kids have money

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<v Speaker 4>to play with.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, especially the the five hundred dollars bill ones.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh man, that gold bill.

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<v Speaker 3>I always thought it was orange. Is it gold? Uh? Yeah, okay, one,

0:22:08.640 --> 0:22:12.159
<v Speaker 3>it's definitely golden rod like yellow. But I remember the

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<v Speaker 3>five hundred it was. Yeah, I guess gold is the

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<v Speaker 3>way to go.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah. See I was a cash hoarder, which is no

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<v Speaker 4>way to win a monopoly.

0:22:20.320 --> 0:22:21.840
<v Speaker 3>No. I thought it was I can't save.

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<v Speaker 4>No, I just thought that just figures for me though, Like.

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<v Speaker 3>You gotta spend money to make money.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I was like, look at all this cash, right

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<v Speaker 4>that I will soon be paying to everyone else.

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<v Speaker 3>You just keep wandering off from the table and try

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<v Speaker 3>to buy stuff with it.

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<v Speaker 4>Did not work.

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<v Speaker 3>So Chuck, You've got the board laid out and if

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<v Speaker 3>you count them, if you're that kind of person, yeah,

0:22:42.359 --> 0:22:46.119
<v Speaker 3>you're gonna find that. There's forty squares, that's right. I believe,

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<v Speaker 3>twenty two of which are no, twenty eight of which

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<v Speaker 3>can be purchased.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, twenty two are properties. You've got your your electric

0:22:55.119 --> 0:22:56.159
<v Speaker 4>company and water works.

0:22:56.280 --> 0:22:59.120
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, suckers bet. And then you've got the four railroads.

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<v Speaker 4>Four railroads.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so that's twenty eight.

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<v Speaker 4>That's right.

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<v Speaker 3>There are others that you can't buy. So, for example,

0:23:05.800 --> 0:23:07.840
<v Speaker 3>there's a luxury tax square.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you got to pay what one hundred dollars when

0:23:09.840 --> 0:23:10.440
<v Speaker 4>you land on that.

0:23:10.400 --> 0:23:12.560
<v Speaker 3>I believe, so just right out of just right out

0:23:12.560 --> 0:23:14.720
<v Speaker 3>of your pocket. There's an income tax square.

0:23:15.440 --> 0:23:16.120
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, no, good.

0:23:16.280 --> 0:23:20.199
<v Speaker 3>There's the go square, which is where you start, and

0:23:20.240 --> 0:23:23.320
<v Speaker 3>then when you come back around you collect two hundred dollars,

0:23:23.640 --> 0:23:25.680
<v Speaker 3>which is in Monopoly called your salary.

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<v Speaker 4>That's right. I never knew that.

0:23:27.720 --> 0:23:28.320
<v Speaker 3>I didn't either.

0:23:28.440 --> 0:23:31.840
<v Speaker 4>And there's a lot of rules in here, and I

0:23:31.840 --> 0:23:33.600
<v Speaker 4>guess it's a good time to point out Monopoly is

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<v Speaker 4>one of those games where house rules are highly encouraged

0:23:37.640 --> 0:23:39.119
<v Speaker 4>and a lot of the fun of the game, and

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<v Speaker 4>in fact, to make more money, Monopoly this year are

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<v Speaker 4>incorporating the top house rules, as voted on by fans

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<v Speaker 4>as official rules for this one version.

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<v Speaker 3>In a seventy dollars hard backbook.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't see why a lot of people were in

0:23:56.800 --> 0:23:58.560
<v Speaker 4>sense they were like, no one plays by the real

0:23:58.640 --> 0:24:01.320
<v Speaker 4>rules anyway, So why by they're packaging it and selling it?

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<v Speaker 3>Right?

0:24:01.760 --> 0:24:03.360
<v Speaker 4>And they went, I think you just said.

0:24:03.160 --> 0:24:06.840
<v Speaker 3>The word sell someone as they sell, there unlies the answer.

0:24:07.840 --> 0:24:11.480
<v Speaker 3>So you've got, oh, there's and so there's forty squares,

0:24:11.520 --> 0:24:14.040
<v Speaker 3>but there's actually forty one places you can go to

0:24:14.200 --> 0:24:18.119
<v Speaker 3>on the board because jail is divided into two squares. Right,

0:24:18.240 --> 0:24:21.080
<v Speaker 3>you got the jail with the jailbird. What's his name?

0:24:21.640 --> 0:24:27.240
<v Speaker 4>Uh, I can't remember, Johnny Jailbird or something, Jake the Jailbird.

0:24:27.000 --> 0:24:30.159
<v Speaker 3>Right, okay, which is where Jake the jailbird is. And

0:24:30.200 --> 0:24:33.600
<v Speaker 3>then you've got the lower part of it. It's just visiting.

0:24:34.200 --> 0:24:36.439
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, if you want to visit Jake, give them a

0:24:36.440 --> 0:24:38.960
<v Speaker 4>bunch cake with a nail file in. It'd be very

0:24:38.960 --> 0:24:39.480
<v Speaker 4>old school.

0:24:39.600 --> 0:24:43.440
<v Speaker 3>Or a monopoly set with maybe a map with an

0:24:43.560 --> 0:24:45.440
<v Speaker 3>escape route embedded in it.

0:24:45.840 --> 0:24:47.000
<v Speaker 4>Hey, that sounds familiar.

0:24:47.119 --> 0:24:50.320
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, POWs in World War Two were given such monopoly sets,

0:24:50.840 --> 0:24:52.920
<v Speaker 3>which is strange to me. It's like where the Nazis

0:24:52.960 --> 0:24:56.600
<v Speaker 3>allowing Monopoly sets to be delivered to POW's. Is that

0:24:56.640 --> 0:24:59.080
<v Speaker 3>what I'm seeing here? Maybe here's the Burmese.

0:25:00.000 --> 0:25:03.040
<v Speaker 4>You've seen the like The Great Escape, on those those

0:25:03.200 --> 0:25:05.760
<v Speaker 4>the war prison camps in World War Two. It seemed

0:25:05.760 --> 0:25:07.840
<v Speaker 4>like a lot of them. They let them like garden

0:25:07.920 --> 0:25:09.959
<v Speaker 4>and they were kind of chummy with him. You saw

0:25:10.040 --> 0:25:10.800
<v Speaker 4>Hogan's heroes.

0:25:11.080 --> 0:25:13.280
<v Speaker 3>I saw Hogan's heroes. I didn't put a lot of

0:25:13.320 --> 0:25:16.200
<v Speaker 3>stock into it. Yeah, but yeah, no, I just figured

0:25:16.200 --> 0:25:19.359
<v Speaker 3>they played soccer. Maybe the Japanese or the Burmese, or

0:25:19.400 --> 0:25:22.640
<v Speaker 3>the the Italians. I could see like saying like, yeah,

0:25:22.840 --> 0:25:25.920
<v Speaker 3>he bring to Monopoly and who cares? But the Nazis,

0:25:25.920 --> 0:25:28.560
<v Speaker 3>I would think, would. I just don't see that.

0:25:28.840 --> 0:25:31.639
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I'm not saying it was a walk in the park,

0:25:32.200 --> 0:25:35.920
<v Speaker 4>but I think from the depiction and like, like I said,

0:25:35.960 --> 0:25:39.680
<v Speaker 4>like the Great Escape, it's not like Vietnam prison camp.

0:25:41.160 --> 0:25:44.320
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, you know, like they weren't playing.

0:25:44.160 --> 0:25:48.640
<v Speaker 4>Soccer or Monopoly, right, they were playing Survive Another Day

0:25:48.760 --> 0:25:52.560
<v Speaker 4>that game. Yeah, I'm not making light of that. By

0:25:52.600 --> 0:25:52.840
<v Speaker 4>the way.

0:25:53.600 --> 0:25:54.560
<v Speaker 3>Oh I didn't think you were.

0:25:54.680 --> 0:25:58.040
<v Speaker 4>And I'm basing everything on war movies, so I'm probably wrong.

0:25:58.280 --> 0:25:59.520
<v Speaker 3>I've seen uncommon Valor.

0:26:00.720 --> 0:26:01.480
<v Speaker 4>That was a good movie.

0:26:01.520 --> 0:26:02.240
<v Speaker 3>That was a great movie.

0:26:02.240 --> 0:26:04.280
<v Speaker 4>It doesn't age well though, really.

0:26:04.440 --> 0:26:07.840
<v Speaker 3>No. Remember that menu with the gun silhouettes on it.

0:26:07.920 --> 0:26:10.480
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, and when you're twelve you're like, oh my god.

0:26:10.960 --> 0:26:13.040
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's like I would buy that one and that one.

0:26:13.119 --> 0:26:15.040
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:26:15.359 --> 0:26:16.440
<v Speaker 4>All right, So where were we?

0:26:16.440 --> 0:26:21.119
<v Speaker 3>We were talking about the board itself. Yes, and the different squares.

0:26:21.240 --> 0:26:24.680
<v Speaker 4>Yes, there are the cards that you can draw as well,

0:26:24.680 --> 0:26:28.000
<v Speaker 4>Community chest and chance squares. When you land on these,

0:26:28.080 --> 0:26:29.760
<v Speaker 4>you draw a card from one of those two piles.

0:26:30.200 --> 0:26:33.080
<v Speaker 4>And there are various things in there, like you want

0:26:33.080 --> 0:26:37.399
<v Speaker 4>to fashion modeling contest, you get ten dollars.

0:26:37.160 --> 0:26:38.760
<v Speaker 3>And there a dog show one in there too.

0:26:38.800 --> 0:26:41.280
<v Speaker 4>I think there's probably a dog show. And there's also

0:26:41.440 --> 0:26:43.560
<v Speaker 4>you know, you have street repairs.

0:26:43.240 --> 0:26:46.560
<v Speaker 3>Or those are big time.

0:26:46.480 --> 0:26:49.880
<v Speaker 4>General repairs, and that's based on your properties that you own.

0:26:50.000 --> 0:26:54.280
<v Speaker 3>That's right. They percentage they can have you pretty hard. Yeah. Yeah,

0:26:54.480 --> 0:26:57.879
<v Speaker 3>it's like in real life, that's right, you know. And

0:26:57.920 --> 0:27:03.960
<v Speaker 3>that's funny because the monopoly what was her name, Lizzie Maggie.

0:27:04.200 --> 0:27:04.640
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

0:27:04.680 --> 0:27:10.880
<v Speaker 3>In an interview she gave with some leftist magazine at

0:27:10.880 --> 0:27:15.800
<v Speaker 3>the time, she said she basically called the thing the

0:27:15.880 --> 0:27:16.639
<v Speaker 3>game of life.

0:27:17.560 --> 0:27:19.000
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that was already taken out.

0:27:19.280 --> 0:27:20.240
<v Speaker 3>I don't know, was it.

0:27:20.400 --> 0:27:23.600
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that was that's around since the like mid eighteen hundred.

0:27:23.880 --> 0:27:26.160
<v Speaker 3>Oh okay, it's old. I thought she was being prescient.

0:27:26.880 --> 0:27:28.560
<v Speaker 4>Now she was being a glib.

0:27:29.680 --> 0:27:31.720
<v Speaker 3>She was making a pop culture reference for the time.

0:27:31.800 --> 0:27:32.440
<v Speaker 4>Yeah exactly.

0:27:32.520 --> 0:27:34.320
<v Speaker 3>But did you know apparently there used to be a

0:27:34.400 --> 0:27:38.399
<v Speaker 3>square on the Game of Life board for suicide. Really,

0:27:38.720 --> 0:27:40.080
<v Speaker 3>it was the way that you could go.

0:27:40.320 --> 0:27:41.840
<v Speaker 4>I never really played that. I think I played a

0:27:41.880 --> 0:27:42.520
<v Speaker 4>couple of times.

0:27:42.600 --> 0:27:44.480
<v Speaker 3>I never did either. I always thought it was kind

0:27:44.480 --> 0:27:46.560
<v Speaker 3>of like you get the whole family in the car

0:27:46.600 --> 0:27:47.840
<v Speaker 3>and it's like whatever.

0:27:48.200 --> 0:27:51.840
<v Speaker 4>Yeah we did. I mean we weren't the biggest game

0:27:51.840 --> 0:27:55.080
<v Speaker 4>players as families, but we did Monopoly some and Yachtzi

0:27:55.240 --> 0:27:55.760
<v Speaker 4>was a big one.

0:27:55.960 --> 0:27:57.840
<v Speaker 3>Yachtzi was great that I still enjoyed today.

0:27:57.880 --> 0:27:58.520
<v Speaker 4>I love Yatzi.

0:27:58.640 --> 0:27:58.880
<v Speaker 3>Sure.

0:27:58.960 --> 0:28:03.080
<v Speaker 4>Yeah. We also played this game called Bull and it

0:28:03.119 --> 0:28:06.360
<v Speaker 4>was like a stock trading game, oh yeah, with cards.

0:28:07.000 --> 0:28:08.600
<v Speaker 4>And it's just now occurring to me that all these

0:28:08.640 --> 0:28:12.000
<v Speaker 4>games are just teaching you about life. Yeah, it's like

0:28:12.080 --> 0:28:15.679
<v Speaker 4>real Monopoly is nothing but real estate. The Game of

0:28:15.720 --> 0:28:18.199
<v Speaker 4>Life is everything, right. This game Bowl was about the

0:28:18.200 --> 0:28:18.840
<v Speaker 4>stock market.

0:28:18.960 --> 0:28:26.679
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, sorry, it was about sarcastic. Sorry, yeah, because you.

0:28:26.680 --> 0:28:29.200
<v Speaker 4>Had to say it like a jerk, right, Candy Land,

0:28:29.320 --> 0:28:30.280
<v Speaker 4>we know what that's all about.

0:28:31.080 --> 0:28:35.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, drugs, right, probably shoots and ladders tall you to

0:28:35.880 --> 0:28:36.840
<v Speaker 3>stay away from snakes.

0:28:36.920 --> 0:28:38.640
<v Speaker 4>Yeah. Operation taught you how to be a doctor.

0:28:39.440 --> 0:28:41.720
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, that's right, that's where I got my MD.

0:28:41.960 --> 0:28:45.120
<v Speaker 4>And then of course Battleship taught you how to be

0:28:45.160 --> 0:28:48.200
<v Speaker 4>a warmonger. That's so do risk can take great pride.

0:28:48.360 --> 0:28:49.880
<v Speaker 3>Risk taught you to be the Antichrist.

0:28:50.640 --> 0:28:52.520
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, risk, we should do what. There is an article

0:28:52.560 --> 0:28:53.760
<v Speaker 4>on risk I saw.

0:28:53.800 --> 0:28:56.280
<v Speaker 3>I looked it over. It didn't seem as interesting as

0:28:56.280 --> 0:28:57.040
<v Speaker 3>this one, though. Yeah.

0:28:57.040 --> 0:28:59.120
<v Speaker 4>I don't know if the history is as interesting for sure.

0:28:59.200 --> 0:29:02.240
<v Speaker 3>And I mean, isn't that what's interesting about any game,

0:29:03.160 --> 0:29:04.240
<v Speaker 3>the history of it? Yeah?

0:29:04.280 --> 0:29:05.360
<v Speaker 4>I think so.

0:29:05.360 --> 0:29:10.680
<v Speaker 3>So let's talk about the rules, dude, Okay, let's start

0:29:10.680 --> 0:29:11.920
<v Speaker 3>at the beginning. We'll start it.

0:29:11.960 --> 0:29:14.600
<v Speaker 4>Go Go is where you start, and that's where you

0:29:14.680 --> 0:29:16.480
<v Speaker 4>Like you said, you collect the two hundred every time

0:29:16.520 --> 0:29:19.360
<v Speaker 4>you land on it or pass it. Sometimes house rules

0:29:20.600 --> 0:29:23.160
<v Speaker 4>you get four hundred for actually landing on it, oh yeah,

0:29:23.200 --> 0:29:24.560
<v Speaker 4>and only two hundred for passing it.

0:29:24.600 --> 0:29:26.800
<v Speaker 3>We never Oh that makes sense. That's good good.

0:29:26.840 --> 0:29:31.680
<v Speaker 4>But free parking is where we had house rules. That

0:29:31.880 --> 0:29:34.160
<v Speaker 4>is a space on the corner of the board where

0:29:34.200 --> 0:29:37.080
<v Speaker 4>you supposedly, per the official rules, don't do anything.

0:29:37.480 --> 0:29:39.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, there's nothing. It's just a space.

0:29:39.640 --> 0:29:42.880
<v Speaker 4>But what we did was we donated all the collected

0:29:42.920 --> 0:29:46.640
<v Speaker 4>taxes and fees and put it under free parking, and

0:29:46.680 --> 0:29:48.720
<v Speaker 4>if you land on that, that was like a lottery win.

0:29:49.040 --> 0:29:51.040
<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, and a lot of people play that way.

0:29:51.040 --> 0:29:52.400
<v Speaker 3>I think I've heard of that one before.

0:29:52.480 --> 0:29:54.640
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it was, you know, we were a bunch of

0:29:55.200 --> 0:29:58.840
<v Speaker 4>pepe never mind. I liked it because it allowed you

0:29:58.840 --> 0:30:02.720
<v Speaker 4>more money, which is favorite thing cash, it's the lotto.

0:30:03.280 --> 0:30:06.360
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, exactly, we got ahead of ourselves. Let's just start

0:30:06.360 --> 0:30:09.880
<v Speaker 3>at the real beginning. Okay, So everybody sits down at

0:30:09.920 --> 0:30:13.600
<v Speaker 3>the table. Yeah, maybe somebody, Yeah, somebody gets a drink.

0:30:14.080 --> 0:30:15.880
<v Speaker 3>Maybe you have to wait because somebody has to go

0:30:15.880 --> 0:30:17.840
<v Speaker 3>to the bathroom. So you're all sitting there quietly. And

0:30:17.880 --> 0:30:20.720
<v Speaker 3>then when everybody's finally at the table, yeah, you guys

0:30:20.720 --> 0:30:24.400
<v Speaker 3>select a banker, huh, and the banker distributes the monopoly

0:30:24.480 --> 0:30:27.760
<v Speaker 3>money fifteen hundred dollars to each player two five hundreds,

0:30:27.880 --> 0:30:31.959
<v Speaker 3>two one hundred, two fifties six twenties and five tens,

0:30:32.000 --> 0:30:35.520
<v Speaker 3>five fives, and five ones. That's thirteen hundred dollars.

0:30:35.600 --> 0:30:38.520
<v Speaker 4>And the goal of the game that we're getting to

0:30:38.600 --> 0:30:41.440
<v Speaker 4>here at thirty minutes in is to bankrupt all of

0:30:41.440 --> 0:30:44.440
<v Speaker 4>your family and friends. That's the whole point, pretty much.

0:30:45.440 --> 0:30:47.920
<v Speaker 4>Some people put a time limit because this game can

0:30:47.960 --> 0:30:50.760
<v Speaker 4>go on forever, and other people say, no, it's got

0:30:50.800 --> 0:30:53.560
<v Speaker 4>to You got to finish it by bankrupting everyone or

0:30:53.600 --> 0:30:56.200
<v Speaker 4>until the last person is like, I give geez, I've

0:30:56.200 --> 0:30:56.880
<v Speaker 4>got eight dollars.

0:30:56.960 --> 0:30:57.720
<v Speaker 3>I hate this game.

0:30:58.000 --> 0:31:01.000
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's usually me, right, and he's usually has her

0:31:01.040 --> 0:31:01.800
<v Speaker 4>foot on my throat.

0:31:02.040 --> 0:31:02.880
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, yeah.

0:31:02.880 --> 0:31:04.920
<v Speaker 4>We played two person Monopoly, which is just not fun.

0:31:05.400 --> 0:31:08.160
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, because you know one of you is gonna lose.

0:31:08.800 --> 0:31:10.960
<v Speaker 4>No, that's not why. It's just it's a game that's

0:31:11.000 --> 0:31:11.920
<v Speaker 4>more fun with more people.

0:31:11.960 --> 0:31:14.800
<v Speaker 3>I think. Yeah, I got it. Yeah, So okay, So

0:31:14.840 --> 0:31:18.080
<v Speaker 3>everybody's got fifteen hord bucks. You roll the dice to

0:31:18.080 --> 0:31:20.880
<v Speaker 3>see who goes first. Whoever rolls the highest goes first.

0:31:20.920 --> 0:31:21.560
<v Speaker 4>Classic move.

0:31:21.840 --> 0:31:25.280
<v Speaker 3>Then you roll both die and you start moving from

0:31:25.360 --> 0:31:28.720
<v Speaker 3>the ghost square and you go clockwise around the board. Yeah,

0:31:28.760 --> 0:31:32.320
<v Speaker 3>and when you land on a property this I didn't know, Yeah,

0:31:32.320 --> 0:31:34.120
<v Speaker 3>which is kind of a basic rule, I guess, but

0:31:34.640 --> 0:31:36.240
<v Speaker 3>I never played it this way. When you land on

0:31:36.280 --> 0:31:38.520
<v Speaker 3>a property, yeah, you have the option to buy it.

0:31:38.640 --> 0:31:40.680
<v Speaker 3>I knew that part. Yeah, but if you decline to

0:31:40.680 --> 0:31:43.120
<v Speaker 3>buy it, then then the property goes up for auction.

0:31:43.360 --> 0:31:45.719
<v Speaker 4>I've never not only have I never played it the way,

0:31:45.720 --> 0:31:46.920
<v Speaker 4>I've never heard of anyone playing it that.

0:31:47.040 --> 0:31:49.120
<v Speaker 3>Okay, so it's not just me, not just you, all right,

0:31:49.400 --> 0:31:55.000
<v Speaker 3>So I guess the during an auction, not only the person,

0:31:55.560 --> 0:31:59.400
<v Speaker 3>not only everybody else, but the banker and the person

0:31:59.400 --> 0:32:03.040
<v Speaker 3>who declined to buy it can bid on.

0:32:03.040 --> 0:32:05.080
<v Speaker 4>It, which didn't make sense unless you're trying to get

0:32:05.080 --> 0:32:07.320
<v Speaker 4>it for lower because yah, can't you start the bidding

0:32:07.360 --> 0:32:07.880
<v Speaker 4>it wherever?

0:32:08.360 --> 0:32:10.680
<v Speaker 3>Yes, you can start the bidding anywhere you want, so

0:32:10.800 --> 0:32:13.520
<v Speaker 3>you could consumably get it for lower. And if you're

0:32:13.520 --> 0:32:16.760
<v Speaker 3>playing against somebody who declines to buy something and then

0:32:16.760 --> 0:32:19.239
<v Speaker 3>starts bidding on it at a lower price, keep an

0:32:19.240 --> 0:32:21.680
<v Speaker 3>eye on that person because that's a shark they're out

0:32:21.680 --> 0:32:23.320
<v Speaker 3>to win. Yeah.

0:32:23.440 --> 0:32:26.240
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I hate that rule because to me, it's just like,

0:32:26.320 --> 0:32:28.720
<v Speaker 4>what's the point in rolling and landing on something? I

0:32:28.720 --> 0:32:31.240
<v Speaker 4>guess right at first refusal, but yeah, I don't know.

0:32:31.280 --> 0:32:31.880
<v Speaker 4>I don't like it.

0:32:32.000 --> 0:32:35.120
<v Speaker 3>No, And plus the Quakers were like, we specifically put

0:32:35.160 --> 0:32:37.120
<v Speaker 3>a price on these things so there wouldn't be a

0:32:37.160 --> 0:32:39.400
<v Speaker 3>lot of yelling. Yeah, we don't like yelling.

0:32:41.080 --> 0:32:45.040
<v Speaker 4>They had another game to follow called the quiet roof

0:32:45.120 --> 0:32:46.240
<v Speaker 4>raising Ceremony.

0:32:47.480 --> 0:32:50.280
<v Speaker 3>Those are not Quakers. That was fun, that was the honest.

0:32:50.400 --> 0:32:51.000
<v Speaker 3>They're different.

0:32:51.200 --> 0:32:53.400
<v Speaker 4>Oh don't you think Quakers raise some roofs?

0:32:54.120 --> 0:32:57.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they do. Hate No party like a Quaker party.

0:32:57.520 --> 0:33:01.120
<v Speaker 4>That's right, all right. So let's you buy all of

0:33:01.160 --> 0:33:04.000
<v Speaker 4>the properties that you know they're they're divided into different colors,

0:33:04.000 --> 0:33:06.840
<v Speaker 4>like there's three green around you know, green ones, orange ones,

0:33:06.840 --> 0:33:10.640
<v Speaker 4>blue ones, light blue. If you buy all of the

0:33:10.680 --> 0:33:13.880
<v Speaker 4>properties that are tied together by a single color, then

0:33:13.920 --> 0:33:16.120
<v Speaker 4>you have what's called the monopoly, and that means you

0:33:16.120 --> 0:33:19.120
<v Speaker 4>can then charge double rent, although we never do that.

0:33:19.720 --> 0:33:22.400
<v Speaker 4>We just keep it single rent. And you now have

0:33:22.400 --> 0:33:24.920
<v Speaker 4>the option to buy houses. And then once you have

0:33:25.000 --> 0:33:27.840
<v Speaker 4>enough houses I think three, you can then buy a hotel.

0:33:28.120 --> 0:33:31.960
<v Speaker 3>Right, and let's call improvements. You're improving your land. And posedly,

0:33:32.160 --> 0:33:35.760
<v Speaker 3>once you start to do improvements, things change a little bit.

0:33:35.880 --> 0:33:38.560
<v Speaker 3>Not only can you start making more money, but it's

0:33:38.600 --> 0:33:43.280
<v Speaker 3>actually harder to mortgage your properties if you are if

0:33:43.320 --> 0:33:46.920
<v Speaker 3>you find yourself in debt, right, because this is this

0:33:47.000 --> 0:33:49.920
<v Speaker 3>is how crazy complicated it is. Like I don't think

0:33:49.920 --> 0:33:52.160
<v Speaker 3>I was ever paying that much attention to monopoly that

0:33:52.480 --> 0:33:56.280
<v Speaker 3>I ever mortgaged a piece of land. Oh really, I

0:33:56.280 --> 0:33:58.160
<v Speaker 3>think it's like sorry to get into debt or whatever.

0:33:58.200 --> 0:34:01.640
<v Speaker 3>It was, like I'm done, I'm done. But apparently so

0:34:01.760 --> 0:34:04.600
<v Speaker 3>if you find yourself indebted, and let's say you have

0:34:04.640 --> 0:34:08.960
<v Speaker 3>a monopoly and you want to mortgage, you can mortgage

0:34:09.000 --> 0:34:12.279
<v Speaker 3>just one of the spots, right, yes, But to do so,

0:34:12.480 --> 0:34:16.759
<v Speaker 3>let's say you have a hotel on that piece of

0:34:16.840 --> 0:34:19.840
<v Speaker 3>land that you're mortgaging, you first have to sell the

0:34:19.880 --> 0:34:23.480
<v Speaker 3>hotel back to the bank at half price. Yeah, and

0:34:23.600 --> 0:34:28.080
<v Speaker 3>then you can mortgage the land. You're still I think,

0:34:28.920 --> 0:34:31.719
<v Speaker 3>are you collecting rent on that land or doesn't go

0:34:31.800 --> 0:34:32.359
<v Speaker 3>right to the bank.

0:34:32.600 --> 0:34:35.319
<v Speaker 4>Now that's where you just turn the card over and

0:34:35.360 --> 0:34:38.480
<v Speaker 4>it's just you still technically own it, right, but you

0:34:38.480 --> 0:34:39.759
<v Speaker 4>can't collect any rents on it.

0:34:39.800 --> 0:34:41.560
<v Speaker 3>But you can't collect rent and everything on the other

0:34:41.640 --> 0:34:44.680
<v Speaker 3>two pieces of property or the other one, depending on

0:34:44.719 --> 0:34:46.640
<v Speaker 3>which one you own. I don't know, really you can.

0:34:46.760 --> 0:34:47.279
<v Speaker 3>I looked it up.

0:34:47.320 --> 0:34:48.760
<v Speaker 4>So that doesn't bust up the monopoly.

0:34:49.000 --> 0:34:51.280
<v Speaker 3>No it doesn't. Okay, so you still own the monopoly.

0:34:51.320 --> 0:34:53.840
<v Speaker 3>It's just that that one is mortgaged, and then to

0:34:54.000 --> 0:34:56.040
<v Speaker 3>get it back you have to pay the bank the

0:34:56.080 --> 0:34:58.279
<v Speaker 3>mortgage plus ten percent. Right.

0:34:58.560 --> 0:35:00.799
<v Speaker 4>And this is where you can get silly with your

0:35:00.800 --> 0:35:04.120
<v Speaker 4>house rules if you want. Yeah, you know, like as

0:35:04.120 --> 0:35:06.239
<v Speaker 4>far as mortgaging and stuff like that, because supposedly it's

0:35:06.239 --> 0:35:08.480
<v Speaker 4>a rule too where you can't. The only thing that

0:35:08.600 --> 0:35:11.600
<v Speaker 4>is not allowed is a personal loan. And I did

0:35:11.680 --> 0:35:15.040
<v Speaker 4>all kinds of personal loaning because I was mister cash.

0:35:15.120 --> 0:35:17.280
<v Speaker 3>What were your your interest rates?

0:35:17.680 --> 0:35:18.280
<v Speaker 4>I don't remember.

0:35:18.320 --> 0:35:20.359
<v Speaker 3>Did you break any usury laws? No?

0:35:20.640 --> 0:35:22.600
<v Speaker 4>That was a kid, so it was probably just.

0:35:22.560 --> 0:35:25.560
<v Speaker 3>Like just painting back whenever ten percent or something.

0:35:25.719 --> 0:35:27.759
<v Speaker 4>I guess I'm not the right I'm not enough of

0:35:27.800 --> 0:35:30.359
<v Speaker 4>a You're not the shark capitalin though.

0:35:30.520 --> 0:35:32.680
<v Speaker 3>You're not the one who like declines to buy something

0:35:32.680 --> 0:35:34.320
<v Speaker 3>so you can bid on at a lower price.

0:35:34.320 --> 0:35:35.319
<v Speaker 4>I'm playing candy Land.

0:35:35.880 --> 0:35:36.960
<v Speaker 3>I loved candy Land.

0:35:36.960 --> 0:35:37.920
<v Speaker 4>Actually I never played that.

0:35:38.080 --> 0:35:40.439
<v Speaker 3>It was a great game, was it because of the art?

0:35:41.280 --> 0:35:42.000
<v Speaker 4>Was this crazy?

0:35:42.080 --> 0:35:44.480
<v Speaker 3>It was beautiful stuff. And then nowadays you look at

0:35:44.520 --> 0:35:46.759
<v Speaker 3>the candy Land board and you're like, poor kids. Yeah,

0:35:46.760 --> 0:35:47.920
<v Speaker 3>they don't know what they're missing.

0:35:48.560 --> 0:35:50.600
<v Speaker 4>I just got a Ticket to Ride game that I

0:35:50.600 --> 0:35:52.000
<v Speaker 4>haven't played yet. Have you heard of that one?

0:35:52.080 --> 0:35:52.239
<v Speaker 3>No?

0:35:52.840 --> 0:35:55.360
<v Speaker 4>It was a German game that's like one game of

0:35:55.400 --> 0:35:58.800
<v Speaker 4>the year. It's a train train game, like you established

0:35:58.800 --> 0:36:02.080
<v Speaker 4>train routes between cities. Uh huh, but it's supposedly like

0:36:02.520 --> 0:36:05.839
<v Speaker 4>it sounds like, really that's fun, but it's supposedly great.

0:36:06.239 --> 0:36:08.640
<v Speaker 3>I just bled a tear. Did you at the thought

0:36:08.680 --> 0:36:08.920
<v Speaker 3>of it?

0:36:09.600 --> 0:36:12.000
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it does sound pretty bad. Yeah, but no, it's

0:36:11.800 --> 0:36:15.759
<v Speaker 4>it's one game of the year. Those Germans and watch

0:36:15.800 --> 0:36:17.880
<v Speaker 4>people Ticket to Ride enthusiasts will be like, dude, it's

0:36:17.920 --> 0:36:18.399
<v Speaker 4>the best ever.

0:36:18.600 --> 0:36:20.600
<v Speaker 3>I'm sure we're gonna know. I've heard like German game

0:36:20.719 --> 0:36:21.960
<v Speaker 3>night is like a thing now.

0:36:22.480 --> 0:36:24.920
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I think they're a little more heady.

0:36:25.719 --> 0:36:26.440
<v Speaker 3>Is that what it is?

0:36:26.560 --> 0:36:28.279
<v Speaker 4>I think? So this seems like I read over the

0:36:28.360 --> 0:36:30.839
<v Speaker 4>rules the other night just so I would know what

0:36:30.920 --> 0:36:33.400
<v Speaker 4>to do. And uh, because you got to like the

0:36:33.400 --> 0:36:35.520
<v Speaker 4>purchase over the game has to be the game explainer

0:36:35.560 --> 0:36:35.959
<v Speaker 4>as well.

0:36:36.200 --> 0:36:38.759
<v Speaker 3>Right, do you have to listen to craft work while

0:36:38.800 --> 0:36:41.080
<v Speaker 3>you play? Yeah, well you don't have to, but it

0:36:41.120 --> 0:36:42.080
<v Speaker 3>helps house rules.

0:36:42.160 --> 0:36:43.120
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so.

0:36:44.560 --> 0:36:47.799
<v Speaker 3>I guess we've Oh and we said you you can

0:36:47.960 --> 0:36:49.720
<v Speaker 3>do anything but give personal loans.

0:36:49.800 --> 0:36:51.480
<v Speaker 4>Right, that's what the official rules stays.

0:36:51.520 --> 0:36:53.920
<v Speaker 3>So like you can I can buy from you on

0:36:53.960 --> 0:36:56.400
<v Speaker 3>the side or something like that, or you can hold

0:36:56.400 --> 0:36:59.080
<v Speaker 3>something up for auction, whatever anybody's doing.

0:36:59.400 --> 0:37:01.000
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, And we always played where you had to do

0:37:01.000 --> 0:37:02.960
<v Speaker 4>that when it was your turn. That makes sense and

0:37:02.960 --> 0:37:04.560
<v Speaker 4>that that would take your turn as well.

0:37:04.640 --> 0:37:08.920
<v Speaker 3>Right, Yeah, but again, the whole point is is to

0:37:08.920 --> 0:37:11.839
<v Speaker 3>be the person who owns the most stuff so that

0:37:11.880 --> 0:37:14.920
<v Speaker 3>you can bankrupt all of your family and friends, right,

0:37:15.280 --> 0:37:17.920
<v Speaker 3>And I mean those are the rules, but there's actually

0:37:18.040 --> 0:37:20.760
<v Speaker 3>strategy to it, and people pay a lot of attention

0:37:20.800 --> 0:37:23.760
<v Speaker 3>to this. You know, there's a Monopoly World Championship roughly

0:37:23.800 --> 0:37:26.320
<v Speaker 3>every four years, although it's been the last one was

0:37:26.360 --> 0:37:29.680
<v Speaker 3>in two thousand and nine. Yeah, so we're due.

0:37:29.440 --> 0:37:33.640
<v Speaker 4>An American lawyer one right in two thousand and nine.

0:37:33.680 --> 0:37:36.480
<v Speaker 3>And no, I think it was a Swede or anti man.

0:37:36.680 --> 0:37:38.560
<v Speaker 4>Okay, maybe he was the North American.

0:37:38.600 --> 0:37:41.200
<v Speaker 3>That's what he was, the North American champ. Yeah, and he.

0:37:41.120 --> 0:37:43.680
<v Speaker 4>Represented the US and the World championships.

0:37:43.680 --> 0:37:47.520
<v Speaker 3>It sounds so silly, weird, yeah, huh, well he uh

0:37:48.040 --> 0:37:50.080
<v Speaker 3>he used the iron.

0:37:52.160 --> 0:37:54.320
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, I think the American used the thimble.

0:37:54.520 --> 0:37:54.920
<v Speaker 3>Gotcha.

0:37:56.360 --> 0:37:59.919
<v Speaker 4>Let's Terry just laughed. She was like, really, that's a

0:38:00.280 --> 0:38:01.399
<v Speaker 4>that's the fact that people need.

0:38:02.680 --> 0:38:05.719
<v Speaker 3>Well, we're trying to really appeal to the purists here too,

0:38:05.760 --> 0:38:08.360
<v Speaker 3>which want everybody to be engaged. Yeah, all right, so

0:38:08.520 --> 0:38:10.359
<v Speaker 3>let's do one more message break and then we'll come

0:38:10.400 --> 0:38:27.360
<v Speaker 3>back and talk strategy. Okay, chucker, So again the point bankrupt.

0:38:27.360 --> 0:38:30.160
<v Speaker 3>Everybody bankrupt, But there's like techniques that you can use

0:38:30.200 --> 0:38:36.000
<v Speaker 3>to more efficiently bankrupt people, like the overall the best strategy,

0:38:36.280 --> 0:38:40.200
<v Speaker 3>the basic strategy is to buy everything every chance you have.

0:38:41.200 --> 0:38:43.080
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean I looked up there's a lot of

0:38:43.120 --> 0:38:47.200
<v Speaker 4>different people's strategies and opinions online. I did find this

0:38:47.239 --> 0:38:50.080
<v Speaker 4>one from a guy and that was his strategy is

0:38:50.120 --> 0:38:53.200
<v Speaker 4>buy everything. It doesn't matter what it is, right, even

0:38:53.760 --> 0:38:56.440
<v Speaker 4>the suckers bet the electric company in the water works.

0:38:56.360 --> 0:38:58.200
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, which I don't pay off.

0:38:58.239 --> 0:39:01.279
<v Speaker 4>Really, he said, buy it all and never have more

0:39:01.280 --> 0:39:03.359
<v Speaker 4>than one hundred dollars in cash is his rule.

0:39:03.800 --> 0:39:04.080
<v Speaker 3>Wow.

0:39:04.239 --> 0:39:07.200
<v Speaker 4>He says the number one people mistake people make is

0:39:07.640 --> 0:39:08.919
<v Speaker 4>hoarding cash like I did.

0:39:09.120 --> 0:39:11.520
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you're making the number one mistake.

0:39:11.239 --> 0:39:15.120
<v Speaker 4>That's right. And he says that buy everything and do

0:39:15.160 --> 0:39:17.400
<v Speaker 4>whatever it takes to get a monopoly, even a bad one,

0:39:17.520 --> 0:39:20.600
<v Speaker 4>Like he will trade to get a bad monopoly and

0:39:20.600 --> 0:39:23.000
<v Speaker 4>give someone a good monopoly even as long as he

0:39:23.040 --> 0:39:26.240
<v Speaker 4>gets the monopoly. Oh gotcha, And he says it's fine

0:39:26.280 --> 0:39:28.239
<v Speaker 4>because then you know, you two will probably take out

0:39:28.239 --> 0:39:31.640
<v Speaker 4>everyone else. The point is just to get a monopoly

0:39:31.719 --> 0:39:33.399
<v Speaker 4>and improve it as fast as you can.

0:39:33.719 --> 0:39:38.040
<v Speaker 3>So supposedly, though, a general rule of thumb among like

0:39:38.120 --> 0:39:41.440
<v Speaker 3>hardcore monopoly players is that while you're improving your monopoly

0:39:41.480 --> 0:39:44.239
<v Speaker 3>your properties, yeah, by adding houses or whatever, you want

0:39:44.280 --> 0:39:47.200
<v Speaker 3>to stop at three houses, yes, because the jump from

0:39:47.520 --> 0:39:51.719
<v Speaker 3>the third house to the hotel, yeah, is financially it

0:39:51.760 --> 0:39:53.880
<v Speaker 3>doesn't pay off. Usually it's over improvement.

0:39:54.480 --> 0:39:57.600
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, just like in your home, Like, don't build a

0:39:57.680 --> 0:39:59.799
<v Speaker 4>eighty thousand dollars kitchen because you're not gonna get your

0:39:59.800 --> 0:40:03.279
<v Speaker 4>money back on that. Right, So three houses, this guy

0:40:04.400 --> 0:40:06.880
<v Speaker 4>doesn't subscribe to that. He buys everything.

0:40:06.680 --> 0:40:07.880
<v Speaker 3>And puts hotels on it.

0:40:07.960 --> 0:40:09.839
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, he says, as first as he gets as soon

0:40:09.880 --> 0:40:13.000
<v Speaker 4>as he gets his first monopoly, he mortgages everything else

0:40:13.360 --> 0:40:15.920
<v Speaker 4>to get cash back, right, and then uses that cash

0:40:15.960 --> 0:40:16.920
<v Speaker 4>to improve.

0:40:16.840 --> 0:40:20.399
<v Speaker 3>Wow, which I thought was a little risky. Yeah.

0:40:20.440 --> 0:40:23.120
<v Speaker 4>A couple of bad roles. I mean, it's a game

0:40:23.160 --> 0:40:25.200
<v Speaker 4>of strategy, but the end of the day, you're rolling dice,

0:40:25.719 --> 0:40:27.399
<v Speaker 4>and so it is very much a game of chance.

0:40:27.440 --> 0:40:30.240
<v Speaker 3>I'll but that guy feels like he's on the back

0:40:30.360 --> 0:40:34.000
<v Speaker 3>of a pegasust though the whole game, like he's just thrilled.

0:40:34.520 --> 0:40:36.279
<v Speaker 3>He claims to have been there on the edge.

0:40:36.440 --> 0:40:38.040
<v Speaker 4>He claims to have won a game in twelve minutes

0:40:38.080 --> 0:40:40.080
<v Speaker 4>one time, which I thought was shooting his own horn

0:40:40.120 --> 0:40:44.799
<v Speaker 4>a bit. Yeah, sure, but real regular strategy. You're right,

0:40:44.880 --> 0:40:47.600
<v Speaker 4>they say three houses is the max you should go.

0:40:48.280 --> 0:40:51.160
<v Speaker 3>And then there's also some that you should avoid, even

0:40:51.200 --> 0:40:53.319
<v Speaker 3>though they seemed like very tempting. We already said the

0:40:53.960 --> 0:40:58.040
<v Speaker 3>electric company and the water company, the utilities. Yeah, they

0:40:58.840 --> 0:41:01.360
<v Speaker 3>The most you can get for rent from landing on

0:41:01.400 --> 0:41:03.080
<v Speaker 3>them was ten times a roll of the dice, which

0:41:03.120 --> 0:41:05.640
<v Speaker 3>is one hundred and twenty bucks. But it also mas

0:41:05.760 --> 0:41:08.840
<v Speaker 3>roll it could be as low as twenty dollars. Yeah,

0:41:08.960 --> 0:41:11.759
<v Speaker 3>so I mean this guy would probably say, well, hey,

0:41:11.760 --> 0:41:15.080
<v Speaker 3>it was worth it. I still own them, and I'm

0:41:15.120 --> 0:41:19.239
<v Speaker 3>still making money if somebody lands on them. But a

0:41:19.239 --> 0:41:22.160
<v Speaker 3>lot of again, the monopoly purists say just stay away

0:41:22.160 --> 0:41:25.399
<v Speaker 3>from them. Yeah, and you also may want to stay

0:41:25.440 --> 0:41:28.920
<v Speaker 3>away from the most expensive ones boardwalk in park place.

0:41:29.360 --> 0:41:33.000
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, there are only two of them, and they just

0:41:33.040 --> 0:41:34.640
<v Speaker 4>don't get landed on very much.

0:41:34.840 --> 0:41:36.520
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so think about it right out of the gate

0:41:36.560 --> 0:41:40.759
<v Speaker 3>when you're thinking of probabilities. The fact that there's two

0:41:40.800 --> 0:41:45.160
<v Speaker 3>of these properties, yeah, rather than three, means that you

0:41:45.440 --> 0:41:49.000
<v Speaker 3>are another player is less likely to land on your

0:41:49.080 --> 0:41:52.799
<v Speaker 3>monopoly because there's three or two instead of three. So

0:41:52.840 --> 0:41:53.760
<v Speaker 3>that's one problem.

0:41:53.840 --> 0:41:54.080
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

0:41:54.239 --> 0:41:57.520
<v Speaker 3>The other problem is placement. Where they are. They're right

0:41:57.560 --> 0:42:01.239
<v Speaker 3>after Go, right before, right before go.

0:42:01.400 --> 0:42:03.200
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so it's at the end of the board essentially.

0:42:03.280 --> 0:42:05.839
<v Speaker 3>No, I'm sorry, they're right before jail. No, there, right

0:42:05.840 --> 0:42:06.319
<v Speaker 3>before we go.

0:42:06.280 --> 0:42:06.960
<v Speaker 4>There, right before we go.

0:42:07.080 --> 0:42:11.520
<v Speaker 3>Okay, So that means that most players are going to well,

0:42:11.520 --> 0:42:14.200
<v Speaker 3>they're going to pass them for sure whenever they hit that.

0:42:15.719 --> 0:42:17.160
<v Speaker 4>Go directly to go exactly.

0:42:17.280 --> 0:42:20.400
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. So that means that your your monopoly is going

0:42:20.440 --> 0:42:23.520
<v Speaker 3>to be passed over. The likelihood of making your money

0:42:23.520 --> 0:42:26.280
<v Speaker 3>back recouping it, especially if they're improved to the hilt

0:42:26.760 --> 0:42:29.280
<v Speaker 3>like a really fancy hotel, means.

0:42:29.080 --> 0:42:29.919
<v Speaker 4>That there's a lot of money.

0:42:30.000 --> 0:42:34.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you've probably sunk a lot of money unwisely into those.

0:42:34.520 --> 0:42:35.920
<v Speaker 3>You want to go for some other ones.

0:42:36.200 --> 0:42:39.080
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, supposedly, and there are people that have done those.

0:42:39.160 --> 0:42:42.560
<v Speaker 4>This one guy. If you really want to get into monopoly, Uh,

0:42:42.719 --> 0:42:45.360
<v Speaker 4>this dude, I don't even know his name, but just

0:42:45.360 --> 0:42:48.880
<v Speaker 4>look up probabilities in the game of Monopoly. And Scientific

0:42:48.920 --> 0:42:51.479
<v Speaker 4>American in the mid nineties at an article that talked

0:42:51.480 --> 0:42:55.759
<v Speaker 4>about probabilities of landing on different spaces, but they excluded

0:42:56.800 --> 0:42:59.759
<v Speaker 4>community chest and chance and being sent to jail. So

0:42:59.800 --> 0:43:02.560
<v Speaker 4>this guy said, I took all of that and included everything,

0:43:03.360 --> 0:43:08.359
<v Speaker 4>and he has statistical charts long term probabilities for ending

0:43:08.400 --> 0:43:12.240
<v Speaker 4>up on each square, expected income per opponent roll, yeah,

0:43:12.280 --> 0:43:15.440
<v Speaker 4>average income per role, expected number of opponent roll, to

0:43:15.480 --> 0:43:19.680
<v Speaker 4>recoup incremental costs, to recoup mortgages.

0:43:20.880 --> 0:43:23.839
<v Speaker 3>So it's the name of his website. By the way,

0:43:23.880 --> 0:43:26.560
<v Speaker 3>is Monopoly was fun dot com?

0:43:27.200 --> 0:43:31.160
<v Speaker 4>It totally should be. But if you just want to

0:43:31.200 --> 0:43:35.160
<v Speaker 4>do some basic probabilities, the orange properties are landed on

0:43:35.320 --> 0:43:36.440
<v Speaker 4>more than anyone else.

0:43:36.640 --> 0:43:38.440
<v Speaker 3>Yes, and why chuck.

0:43:39.600 --> 0:43:42.840
<v Speaker 4>Because they are after jail.

0:43:43.800 --> 0:43:46.000
<v Speaker 3>Six, eight and nine spaces after jail.

0:43:46.120 --> 0:43:48.120
<v Speaker 4>Yeah. So if you get sent to jail, which is

0:43:48.200 --> 0:43:50.000
<v Speaker 4>gonna happen at some point, and we actually didn't talk

0:43:50.000 --> 0:43:53.239
<v Speaker 4>about jail, we'll talk about that, Okay, then you Yeah,

0:43:53.320 --> 0:43:55.080
<v Speaker 4>chances are you're gonna hit one of those orange squares

0:43:55.120 --> 0:43:55.919
<v Speaker 4>on your way out of jail.

0:43:56.000 --> 0:43:58.640
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, because you're rolling with two dice, so you're much

0:43:58.680 --> 0:44:00.960
<v Speaker 3>more likely to roll like a six, eight or a

0:44:01.040 --> 0:44:02.800
<v Speaker 3>nine then you are like a two or three or

0:44:02.800 --> 0:44:05.200
<v Speaker 3>a one. Yeah, it's not even possible to roll a one.

0:44:05.360 --> 0:44:06.120
<v Speaker 3>Try it. You can't.

0:44:07.239 --> 0:44:09.239
<v Speaker 4>You can't unless you eat one of the dice.

0:44:10.160 --> 0:44:13.280
<v Speaker 3>And in which case, unless it's a house rule, everybody's

0:44:13.280 --> 0:44:15.480
<v Speaker 3>gonna yell at you and have to wait around until

0:44:15.520 --> 0:44:16.680
<v Speaker 3>you poop it out to keep playing.

0:44:16.840 --> 0:44:18.760
<v Speaker 4>Actually, our rule was you had to roll the child

0:44:18.800 --> 0:44:21.880
<v Speaker 4>in the one the child who ate the dice.

0:44:22.080 --> 0:44:24.040
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, just shake them up.

0:44:24.360 --> 0:44:24.600
<v Speaker 4>Yep.

0:44:25.600 --> 0:44:25.960
<v Speaker 3>All right.

0:44:26.000 --> 0:44:29.239
<v Speaker 4>So jail is on the corner of the board and

0:44:29.280 --> 0:44:31.279
<v Speaker 4>you can there are a few different ways you can

0:44:31.320 --> 0:44:34.239
<v Speaker 4>go there. You can draw a go to jail card.

0:44:35.239 --> 0:44:37.120
<v Speaker 4>You can throw three doubles in a row and go

0:44:37.160 --> 0:44:41.320
<v Speaker 4>to jail, yeah, which I never understood, because that's a

0:44:41.360 --> 0:44:41.880
<v Speaker 4>good thing.

0:44:42.320 --> 0:44:44.680
<v Speaker 3>I guess, but it's also the sign of the devil.

0:44:44.760 --> 0:44:46.279
<v Speaker 3>So that's why you have to go to jail for

0:44:46.280 --> 0:44:47.480
<v Speaker 3>a little while to be cleansed.

0:44:48.400 --> 0:44:50.080
<v Speaker 4>Or there is a square mark to go to jail

0:44:50.080 --> 0:44:51.640
<v Speaker 4>and you can land on that and go to jail.

0:44:52.120 --> 0:44:54.040
<v Speaker 4>You can also get out in three ways. You can

0:44:54.080 --> 0:44:55.960
<v Speaker 4>have that get out of jail free card. If you

0:44:56.000 --> 0:44:58.720
<v Speaker 4>draw that, you can hold on to it. We could

0:44:58.760 --> 0:45:01.759
<v Speaker 4>sell it, although I think that's a house rule. You

0:45:01.800 --> 0:45:04.239
<v Speaker 4>can sell it to a friend or enemy.

0:45:06.040 --> 0:45:07.920
<v Speaker 3>Whoever had the most cash, right exactly.

0:45:08.719 --> 0:45:11.840
<v Speaker 4>And then you basically the other ways to roll to

0:45:11.880 --> 0:45:14.520
<v Speaker 4>either pay your way out with fifty bucks or to

0:45:14.600 --> 0:45:16.799
<v Speaker 4>roll your way out. The way we played it was

0:45:16.840 --> 0:45:19.440
<v Speaker 4>each turn you had one chance to roll your way

0:45:19.440 --> 0:45:20.040
<v Speaker 4>out of jail.

0:45:20.560 --> 0:45:23.799
<v Speaker 3>So you are rolling doubles, rolling doubles, right, yeah, and

0:45:23.840 --> 0:45:27.839
<v Speaker 3>then if you under official rules, if you don't roll

0:45:27.880 --> 0:45:31.840
<v Speaker 3>doubles for three consecutive turns, like you get three consecutive

0:45:31.920 --> 0:45:34.120
<v Speaker 3>chances to roll doubles, and if you don't on any

0:45:34.160 --> 0:45:36.600
<v Speaker 3>of those turns, then you have to pay fifty bucks

0:45:36.600 --> 0:45:37.360
<v Speaker 3>to get out of jail.

0:45:37.920 --> 0:45:40.080
<v Speaker 4>We just played where you just got out and you didn't.

0:45:39.880 --> 0:45:42.960
<v Speaker 3>Have to pay. Well, then you guys weren't following the rules.

0:45:43.120 --> 0:45:45.520
<v Speaker 4>I told you the house rules. The house rules.

0:45:45.600 --> 0:45:48.960
<v Speaker 3>So there's actually a strategy to jail. Yeah, if you

0:45:50.040 --> 0:45:53.239
<v Speaker 3>go to jail early on in the game, you want

0:45:53.239 --> 0:45:55.759
<v Speaker 3>to pay your fifty bucks to get out immediately. Yeah,

0:45:55.800 --> 0:45:58.160
<v Speaker 3>just pay the fifty bucks because then you can keep

0:45:58.200 --> 0:46:01.120
<v Speaker 3>going around the board and there's more stuff available to buy.

0:46:01.280 --> 0:46:01.760
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

0:46:02.040 --> 0:46:05.200
<v Speaker 3>But later in the game you want to just kind

0:46:05.200 --> 0:46:06.320
<v Speaker 3>of hang out in jail.

0:46:06.120 --> 0:46:09.160
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, like Josh has bought all the Orange spaces. Yeah,

0:46:09.160 --> 0:46:10.560
<v Speaker 4>and you've got hotels on each one.

0:46:10.719 --> 0:46:11.120
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:46:11.200 --> 0:46:13.120
<v Speaker 4>So I'm thinking it might be good to sit in

0:46:13.200 --> 0:46:14.200
<v Speaker 4>jail for a few rounds.

0:46:14.360 --> 0:46:18.160
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, because you can still collect rent on your properties,

0:46:18.800 --> 0:46:21.359
<v Speaker 3>but the fact that you're in jail keeps you off

0:46:21.360 --> 0:46:22.279
<v Speaker 3>of my properties.

0:46:22.560 --> 0:46:25.520
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and all another Bryant rule we played where when

0:46:25.560 --> 0:46:27.520
<v Speaker 4>you were in jail you could not collect any rents.

0:46:27.800 --> 0:46:30.560
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean that makes sense, but according to official rules,

0:46:30.600 --> 0:46:32.560
<v Speaker 3>that's right. You just make as much money as you

0:46:32.600 --> 0:46:33.000
<v Speaker 3>want there.

0:46:33.120 --> 0:46:35.759
<v Speaker 4>And apparently in jail you can officially you can also

0:46:35.800 --> 0:46:38.760
<v Speaker 4>buy and sell properties, yeah, and improve your and collect

0:46:38.800 --> 0:46:42.200
<v Speaker 4>rent and build hotels and houses, which I thought, I

0:46:42.239 --> 0:46:43.680
<v Speaker 4>don't know. You're in jail, you can lose that.

0:46:43.719 --> 0:46:46.799
<v Speaker 3>Right, It seems like it in real jail, that's the

0:46:46.800 --> 0:46:47.399
<v Speaker 3>way it is.

0:46:47.719 --> 0:46:49.759
<v Speaker 4>No, it's not. You can own a house and be

0:46:49.800 --> 0:46:53.680
<v Speaker 4>in jail. I guess that's true, And technically you could

0:46:53.680 --> 0:46:55.960
<v Speaker 4>probably charge rent to someone you could sublet it, like

0:46:56.000 --> 0:46:57.279
<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna be gone for three to six.

0:46:57.520 --> 0:46:59.920
<v Speaker 3>No, it's true, but what happens when the dishrush breaks?

0:47:00.120 --> 0:47:02.200
<v Speaker 3>Try to get light out of jail to go fix it.

0:47:02.800 --> 0:47:05.520
<v Speaker 3>They're not gonna let you do that. It's very funny,

0:47:06.239 --> 0:47:07.160
<v Speaker 3>but it's true too.

0:47:08.320 --> 0:47:11.279
<v Speaker 4>Probability experts also say you get a good return on

0:47:11.960 --> 0:47:15.600
<v Speaker 4>buying all of the railroads because they're pretty cheap. There's

0:47:15.600 --> 0:47:19.040
<v Speaker 4>one on each side, and once you have each, once

0:47:19.080 --> 0:47:22.640
<v Speaker 4>you own all of them, they're two hundred dollars in rent.

0:47:23.600 --> 0:47:27.759
<v Speaker 4>So that's not too bad, not too shabby. But to me,

0:47:27.840 --> 0:47:30.480
<v Speaker 4>a monopoly is the reason monopoly is are valuable is

0:47:30.560 --> 0:47:33.560
<v Speaker 4>because they're in a row, whereas the railroads are spaced

0:47:33.560 --> 0:47:38.160
<v Speaker 4>out right. And our friend, the strategist who thinks he

0:47:39.440 --> 0:47:43.440
<v Speaker 4>invented the game, says, but what you have to remember

0:47:43.520 --> 0:47:46.000
<v Speaker 4>is none of these strategies matter because you're playing. It's

0:47:46.000 --> 0:47:49.400
<v Speaker 4>a game of people and personalities. So he said, you

0:47:49.440 --> 0:47:52.800
<v Speaker 4>got to sit back and watch the different personalities emerge

0:47:53.280 --> 0:47:58.800
<v Speaker 4>and then manipulate that like the cash hoarder versus the shark.

0:47:58.880 --> 0:48:01.440
<v Speaker 4>And he's like, you're really playing against people.

0:48:01.880 --> 0:48:03.200
<v Speaker 3>Man, that's interesting, I.

0:48:03.160 --> 0:48:03.560
<v Speaker 4>Thought, so.

0:48:05.239 --> 0:48:10.560
<v Speaker 3>Okay, so let's talk about another friend, an economist friend.

0:48:11.440 --> 0:48:18.360
<v Speaker 3>His name is Ralph Antspoch. Yes, and he back in

0:48:18.400 --> 0:48:21.680
<v Speaker 3>the seventies had a game called anti Monopoly. Yeah.

0:48:21.719 --> 0:48:25.359
<v Speaker 4>He was an econ professor at San Francisco State and

0:48:27.040 --> 0:48:29.640
<v Speaker 4>like it made his own real game. Like he didn't

0:48:29.680 --> 0:48:31.880
<v Speaker 4>just like draw it up on paper, like, he started

0:48:31.920 --> 0:48:34.440
<v Speaker 4>a little small business right and manufactured it.

0:48:34.480 --> 0:48:37.200
<v Speaker 3>Apparently sold about two hundred thousand copies of it, like

0:48:37.280 --> 0:48:39.279
<v Speaker 3>right out of the gate. Yeah, could just hit a

0:48:39.360 --> 0:48:42.080
<v Speaker 3>nerve again. It was called anti monopoly, and the whole

0:48:42.080 --> 0:48:45.640
<v Speaker 3>point of it was to break up monopolies rather than

0:48:45.800 --> 0:48:46.759
<v Speaker 3>build monopolies.

0:48:46.920 --> 0:48:49.600
<v Speaker 4>Yeah. At the beginning of the game is essentially the

0:48:49.719 --> 0:48:53.359
<v Speaker 4>end of a regular game, Like everyone starts off with monopolies,

0:48:54.160 --> 0:48:58.600
<v Speaker 4>and instead of real estate and utilities an anti monopoly,

0:48:58.640 --> 0:49:02.480
<v Speaker 4>they had their individual businesses that have been brought under

0:49:02.520 --> 0:49:04.760
<v Speaker 4>a single ownership. And you take the role of federal

0:49:04.800 --> 0:49:08.200
<v Speaker 4>caseworker and bring indictments against monopolized businesses.

0:49:08.280 --> 0:49:08.640
<v Speaker 3>That's right.

0:49:08.920 --> 0:49:12.760
<v Speaker 4>In order to return the board to a free market system.

0:49:12.400 --> 0:49:13.880
<v Speaker 3>You have to wear sensible shoes.

0:49:15.280 --> 0:49:16.080
<v Speaker 4>It sounds awesome.

0:49:16.719 --> 0:49:19.319
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Well, and he came up with this because he

0:49:19.440 --> 0:49:22.960
<v Speaker 3>was trying to apparently explain to his son what was

0:49:23.000 --> 0:49:27.360
<v Speaker 3>wrong and bad about monopolies, and I suspect capitalism to

0:49:27.400 --> 0:49:31.400
<v Speaker 3>a certain extent. And he came up with this game instead,

0:49:31.480 --> 0:49:34.360
<v Speaker 3>Like I said, sold a substantial amount two hundred thousand

0:49:34.360 --> 0:49:37.480
<v Speaker 3>copies of a game, especially back in the seventies that

0:49:37.640 --> 0:49:40.520
<v Speaker 3>was pretty good as a startup. Yeah, you know, and

0:49:40.560 --> 0:49:43.239
<v Speaker 3>it caught Parker Brothers attention enough that they sent him

0:49:43.239 --> 0:49:46.480
<v Speaker 3>a season desist letter, took him to court, got a

0:49:46.520 --> 0:49:49.520
<v Speaker 3>court order for him to hand over his like thirty

0:49:49.560 --> 0:49:52.719
<v Speaker 3>seven thousand copies that he had in his warehouse, and

0:49:53.360 --> 0:49:57.400
<v Speaker 3>they Parker Brothers went and unceremoniously buried him in a

0:49:57.480 --> 0:50:03.480
<v Speaker 3>landfill in Minnesota. Yeah, so Ralph didn't cott into this

0:50:04.280 --> 0:50:06.279
<v Speaker 3>very much. He didn't like that. He doesn't like to

0:50:06.320 --> 0:50:08.360
<v Speaker 3>be pushed around. I get the impression.

0:50:08.800 --> 0:50:11.400
<v Speaker 4>No, I mean, a guy who makes anti monopoly is

0:50:11.440 --> 0:50:14.640
<v Speaker 4>not going to cave in the courts initially.

0:50:14.200 --> 0:50:15.960
<v Speaker 3>And he did so, like very much, at his own

0:50:16.000 --> 0:50:20.200
<v Speaker 3>financial detriment. He had a very expensive team of lawyers

0:50:20.239 --> 0:50:24.960
<v Speaker 3>at first, and spent quite a bit of money fighting

0:50:25.560 --> 0:50:29.479
<v Speaker 3>Parker Brothers for the right to use anti monopoly, and

0:50:31.480 --> 0:50:35.000
<v Speaker 3>it wasn't really going anywhere, and he was losing a

0:50:35.040 --> 0:50:37.160
<v Speaker 3>lot of money, so he started to do legwork himself,

0:50:37.560 --> 0:50:42.360
<v Speaker 3>found a lawyer friend who worked on the Cheap Forum,

0:50:42.960 --> 0:50:46.040
<v Speaker 3>and that's when things started taking off.

0:50:46.400 --> 0:50:49.880
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean, he basically uncovered the lie that it

0:50:49.960 --> 0:50:52.520
<v Speaker 4>was invented by Charles Darrow. Yeah, he found out that

0:50:52.560 --> 0:50:56.120
<v Speaker 4>the game was essentially in the public domain or should

0:50:56.120 --> 0:51:00.480
<v Speaker 4>have been, and went all the way to the Supreme.

0:51:00.360 --> 0:51:03.920
<v Speaker 3>And yeah, he won at the Supreme Court. This e

0:51:04.040 --> 0:51:06.200
<v Speaker 3>come professor who came up with a game called anti

0:51:06.280 --> 0:51:09.560
<v Speaker 3>Monopoly won in the Supreme Court, won the right to

0:51:09.800 --> 0:51:11.960
<v Speaker 3>name his game anti Monopoly.

0:51:12.160 --> 0:51:17.040
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean, he deposed the two Quakers that were

0:51:17.040 --> 0:51:19.040
<v Speaker 4>friends of Hoskins. They were old at that point. They

0:51:19.080 --> 0:51:24.280
<v Speaker 4>took the stand. He deposed the CEO of Parker Brothers,

0:51:24.800 --> 0:51:26.680
<v Speaker 4>and he took the stand and it had to admit

0:51:26.800 --> 0:51:29.880
<v Speaker 4>under oath like, yeah, we did kind of steal it

0:51:30.160 --> 0:51:32.879
<v Speaker 4>nice the idea from that lady after all.

0:51:33.000 --> 0:51:37.839
<v Speaker 3>And so, as Ralph says, the whole point to him

0:51:37.960 --> 0:51:41.680
<v Speaker 3>was for this true story, the true origins of monopoly

0:51:41.719 --> 0:51:44.919
<v Speaker 3>and how it came about, the whole point of it originally. Yeah,

0:51:45.000 --> 0:51:49.400
<v Speaker 3>could still be told openly that what he said couldn't

0:51:49.400 --> 0:51:51.879
<v Speaker 3>be bought at any price. In his opinion, that's right,

0:51:52.480 --> 0:51:53.439
<v Speaker 3>So way to go, Ralph.

0:51:53.560 --> 0:51:57.360
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, he wrote a book awkwardly titled The Billion Dollar Monopoly.

0:51:58.000 --> 0:52:01.920
<v Speaker 4>In swindle Colin during a David and Goliath battle, Anti

0:52:02.000 --> 0:52:07.560
<v Speaker 4>Monopoly uncovers the secret history of monopoly. That's a little clunky,

0:52:07.640 --> 0:52:11.799
<v Speaker 4>a little clunky, but it's still around. In nineteen eighty four,

0:52:11.840 --> 0:52:15.520
<v Speaker 4>there was a new version called Anti Monopoly two where

0:52:15.520 --> 0:52:18.840
<v Speaker 4>you could actually be a monopolist or a competitor, So

0:52:18.880 --> 0:52:21.759
<v Speaker 4>you got to choose, which I thought was interesting. And

0:52:22.200 --> 0:52:26.600
<v Speaker 4>if you chose the competitor, you charge lower rents and

0:52:26.680 --> 0:52:29.480
<v Speaker 4>you can improve property at anytime. But if you're a monopolist,

0:52:29.840 --> 0:52:32.680
<v Speaker 4>you have to own at least two properties before in

0:52:32.719 --> 0:52:36.320
<v Speaker 4>a group, before building houses, and charge a lot higher rents.

0:52:36.360 --> 0:52:39.680
<v Speaker 4>So I think you're like playing against the two systems

0:52:39.719 --> 0:52:40.600
<v Speaker 4>within the same game.

0:52:40.800 --> 0:52:41.760
<v Speaker 3>That's really interesting.

0:52:41.840 --> 0:52:43.640
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I'm gonna I might grab one of these and

0:52:43.680 --> 0:52:44.239
<v Speaker 4>see what it's like.

0:52:44.480 --> 0:52:50.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, maybe tell everybody's German. Uh, you got anything else?

0:52:50.520 --> 0:52:51.319
<v Speaker 4>I got nothing else.

0:52:51.440 --> 0:52:55.280
<v Speaker 3>I do the longest monopoly game of all time seventy days.

0:52:56.160 --> 0:52:57.840
<v Speaker 4>I played a game of risk that seemed like it

0:52:57.920 --> 0:53:02.000
<v Speaker 4>lasted that long once it may have. It didn't last

0:53:02.000 --> 0:53:07.360
<v Speaker 4>so long, but it lasted a weekend, okay, and Monopoly.

0:53:07.360 --> 0:53:09.160
<v Speaker 4>I don't have the patience for that. I'll just give up.

0:53:09.840 --> 0:53:11.600
<v Speaker 4>I'll take my cat fake cash and go home.

0:53:13.360 --> 0:53:16.080
<v Speaker 3>Yeah you'r horride of it. Yeah you're like, oh, just

0:53:16.200 --> 0:53:17.160
<v Speaker 3>saved all this money.

0:53:17.239 --> 0:53:18.960
<v Speaker 4>That's right, and I own the utilities.

0:53:20.600 --> 0:53:22.759
<v Speaker 3>If you want to learn more about Monopoly, including how

0:53:22.800 --> 0:53:25.040
<v Speaker 3>to play, if you don't like house rules, but you

0:53:25.080 --> 0:53:27.960
<v Speaker 3>also don't feel like looking at the official rule book,

0:53:28.360 --> 0:53:30.560
<v Speaker 3>you can just go on to house stuff Works. Yeah,

0:53:30.600 --> 0:53:32.880
<v Speaker 3>and check out the rules that is in this article.

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<v Speaker 3>To cite Monopoly in the search bar at housetuffworks dot

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<v Speaker 3>com and sin I said, search bar, it's time for

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<v Speaker 3>what listener mail? Yes, okay, I'm.

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<v Speaker 4>Gonna call this help for a fam in need.

0:53:45.000 --> 0:53:45.719
<v Speaker 3>Oh that's nice.

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<v Speaker 4>Hey, guys, want some help please. My wife and I

0:53:47.640 --> 0:53:50.160
<v Speaker 4>are expecting our first kid this summer, and thirteen days

0:53:50.200 --> 0:53:52.320
<v Speaker 4>ago we also found out that my wife has stage

0:53:52.360 --> 0:53:55.920
<v Speaker 4>four breast cancer, so we are spending our third trimester

0:53:56.000 --> 0:53:56.920
<v Speaker 4>getting chemo.

0:53:57.160 --> 0:53:58.480
<v Speaker 3>My goodness, I know.

0:53:59.000 --> 0:54:00.919
<v Speaker 4>We're gonna kick cancer in the but we have no doubt.

0:54:00.960 --> 0:54:04.560
<v Speaker 4>But we're scared and overwhelmed, obviously, we're doing chemo now.

0:54:04.640 --> 0:54:07.680
<v Speaker 4>Then we'll have the baby get more chemo than bilateral

0:54:07.800 --> 0:54:11.160
<v Speaker 4>mastectomy than radiation. We have great doctors and great fans

0:54:11.160 --> 0:54:13.160
<v Speaker 4>and family, so even in the face of this, we

0:54:13.200 --> 0:54:16.000
<v Speaker 4>feel very lucky. And by the way, I got to

0:54:16.040 --> 0:54:21.239
<v Speaker 4>follow up more recently that says, uh, there is no

0:54:21.400 --> 0:54:23.960
<v Speaker 4>gestational diabetes and the cancer is already shrinking.

0:54:24.080 --> 0:54:24.840
<v Speaker 3>Oh it's great.

0:54:24.880 --> 0:54:26.080
<v Speaker 4>So things are going great so far.

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<v Speaker 3>Thanks for keeping us in suspense.

0:54:27.880 --> 0:54:29.200
<v Speaker 4>I know I was going to wait till the end.

0:54:29.920 --> 0:54:31.480
<v Speaker 4>And he asked for a couple of favors. He said,

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<v Speaker 4>First of all, if you want to follow and promote

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<v Speaker 4>my tumblr to keep people updated, it is h T

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<v Speaker 4>we're huge nerds and doctor who fans.

0:54:51.640 --> 0:54:54.480
<v Speaker 3>So that was lost on me some doctor who referenced

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<v Speaker 3>I guess apparently, so does that have to do with

0:54:56.400 --> 0:54:57.000
<v Speaker 3>the phone booth?

0:54:57.040 --> 0:55:02.120
<v Speaker 4>Maybe that's the only thing you know about doctor here. Secondly,

0:55:02.160 --> 0:55:04.680
<v Speaker 4>I'm biking one hundred and fifty miles to raise money

0:55:05.120 --> 0:55:07.239
<v Speaker 4>and could you plug that and you can go to

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0:55:14.120 --> 0:55:16.560
<v Speaker 3>These people don't like normal words. Well that's one of

0:55:16.600 --> 0:55:20.040
<v Speaker 3>those shortened URLs. Oh, I see, it's a goo gotcha.

0:55:20.960 --> 0:55:22.600
<v Speaker 4>And then third, how about a shout out? I think

0:55:22.600 --> 0:55:24.919
<v Speaker 4>that's what we're doing here. My wife is a little shy,

0:55:25.000 --> 0:55:26.640
<v Speaker 4>so just to use her nickname, the mayor.

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<v Speaker 3>That's hilarious. She wears a sash during chemo and childbirth.

0:55:32.840 --> 0:55:34.760
<v Speaker 4>I guess, so, I mean I call Emily the boss,

0:55:34.760 --> 0:55:37.680
<v Speaker 4>So I guess it's the mayor. Yeah, but the.

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<v Speaker 3>Mayor is like the boss of several bosses. I would guess. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>We used to call my friend Justin who you know,

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<v Speaker 4>the Mayor of Atlanta, because everywhere you went, somebody knew him.

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<v Speaker 3>He's a sociable fella.

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<v Speaker 4>But now we just call him the manager of Atlanta

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<v Speaker 4>because everywhere you go he has some improvement to that place.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh okay, like the lighting's not quite right, or the

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<v Speaker 4>door should be over there, the kitchen is not located

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<v Speaker 4>properly those Brits. Yeah. And then fourth, my wife works

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<v Speaker 4>in public policy, specifically helping women and families get themselves

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<v Speaker 4>out of poverty and advocating for low income workers. So

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<v Speaker 4>there you have it. An awesome an incredible woman who

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<v Speaker 4>dedicates her considerable talents helping others, is pregnant and has

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<v Speaker 4>breast cancer.

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<v Speaker 3>Kind of hard to say, no, right, I'm not above

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<v Speaker 3>guilt tripping.

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<v Speaker 4>So Bob from Swethmore, Pennsylvania, there you go. People should

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<v Speaker 4>go and check out that stuff and support your bike ride.

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<v Speaker 4>And I hope things have continued to progress well for

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<v Speaker 4>your wife and child.

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<v Speaker 3>And keep us updated. Yeah, and you keep me updated

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<v Speaker 3>at the very least. If not everybody listening, I will. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>thanks a lot, Bob and the mayor. Good luck to

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