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Speaker 1: Oh boy, it's time for one of my favorite episodes,

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Speaker 1: How Monopoly Works. This one was way more interesting than

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Speaker 1: I ever understood. There's a lot more to Monopoly, and

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Speaker 1: just as a little aside, if you think that the

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Speaker 1: Monopoly man wore a monocle, you're wrong. You're thinking of

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Speaker 1: mister Peanut. Plus also it makes sense that he would

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Speaker 1: be warring a monocle. It's a bit of a crime

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Speaker 1: that he wasn't. At any rate, here's the episode Monopoly.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Stuff you Should Know from HowStuffWorks dot com.

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Speaker 3: Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark with

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Speaker 3: Charles W. Chuck Bryant and Jerry Rowland, which makes the

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Speaker 3: Stuff you Should Know.

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Speaker 4: It's right, got on the top, Pat and my cane monicle,

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Speaker 4: Monica to see it, Monica, I thought it was Now

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Speaker 4: it's mister Peanut.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, not mister Monopoly. And I think mister Pringle

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Speaker 3: has a monocle too, didn't it? Eh No, he just

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Speaker 3: says An Nustairs. Yeah, mister Monopoly doesn't have a monocle. Huh.

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Speaker 4: I don't think so.

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Speaker 3: Huh. You'd think we'd know, we do not, But I

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Speaker 3: do know this, mister Monopoly is a nickname for that man.

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Speaker 4: That's right.

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Speaker 3: His born name is given name by his parents is

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Speaker 3: rich Uncle penny Bags. Three names, so uncle would be

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Speaker 3: his middle name.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. Well he even has a regular name too.

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Speaker 3: Oh not that I saw.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it is Milbourne Pennybags.

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Speaker 3: No.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, there was a book published and this is one

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Speaker 4: of those after the fact deals called the Monopoly Companion,

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Speaker 4: and they named all the character characters on the board

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Speaker 4: Melbourne Penny Bags. And then the jail guy is Jake

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Speaker 4: the jail bird okay, and the police officer and go

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Speaker 4: to jail.

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Speaker 3: Is I'll bet a Tyris, isn't it, Officer Edgar Mallory.

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Speaker 3: I knew. Really you just.

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Speaker 4: Gets that, huh, Yeah, that's pretty bunny. We're talking about Monopoly,

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Speaker 4: by the way.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, this is not about anything else but Monopoly.

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Speaker 4: No. And I was just remarking to you, sir, how

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Speaker 4: I've never seen one of our This had more supplemental

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Speaker 4: information than most shows that we research.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I can explain why because this was written. There

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Speaker 3: was a whole suite of game articles written, yeah, like

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Speaker 3: just how to play certain games. So it kind of

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Speaker 3: came out in this mentality of this is the game

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Speaker 3: this article is done. Whereas Monopoly, it's like this is

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Speaker 3: more like McDonald's or Twinkies or something like that. It's

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Speaker 3: like a cultural cog.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. I mean there's so much extra junk history and

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Speaker 4: I mean you talk about the different versions, it's ridiculous.

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Speaker 3: Millburn penny bangs. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: And like I said, that was a post that he

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Speaker 4: wasn't originally called that. This is I think Monopoly probably

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Speaker 4: wanted to sell a little little book or two. I'm

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Speaker 4: sure they did, because if one thing we've learned about

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Speaker 4: Parker Brothers and now Hasbro is they love selling different

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they do. They like licensing it off a lot

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Speaker 3: of money. They like making some changes here or there,

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Speaker 3: releasing a brand new game, but it's all still the

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Speaker 3: same game. And all of it came from a left

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Speaker 4: Yeah it was.

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Speaker 3: I'm saying that right, Yeah, sure, Okay, I.

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Speaker 4: Think it sounds right. And it's interesting to me that

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Speaker 4: the game of Monopoly, which is all about capitalism and

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Speaker 4: bankrupting or neighbor, yeah, was stolen. The game was stolen.

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Speaker 3: From a leftist intellectual Quaker.

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Speaker 4: In the original version of the game, it was to

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Speaker 3: Right, so let's talk about this monopoly. Actually, if you

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Georgis.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he came up with this thing called Georgism, which

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Speaker 3: it is that if you produce something through through your

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Speaker 3: not be taxed. Right, what should be taxes things that

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Speaker 4: Well, that was his notion was that you shouldn't even

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Speaker 3: And that's based on this idea, the law of the commons,

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Speaker 3: So that's Georgism, and that was kind of the philosophy

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Speaker 3: that formed the basis of monopoly what was originally called

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Speaker 3: the Landlord's Game, which was created by a lady named

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Speaker 3: Lizzie Maggie A G y M A g I E

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Speaker 3: M A g I E Yeah, almost Magpie without the

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Speaker 3: P right, Yeah. And she basically that was on her card.

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Speaker 3: And she she came up with this, like you said,

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Speaker 3: of capitalism. But she actually came up with two sets

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Speaker 3: In her original version, it was a good thing, like

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Speaker 4: Yeah, which is really ironic, it is. Yeah, like you said,

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Speaker 3: Luckily, Lizzy was smart enough to patent this game. It

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Speaker 4: I mean, if you look at the original Landlords game board,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And apparently a lot of the rules that make

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Quakers preferred silence, so they just put a fixed

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Speaker 4: Yeah, like household objects, which you know, that's why the

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Speaker 3: And then so this thing's being played and Lizzie Maggie

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Speaker 4: No, Well, she pitched it to Parker Brothers and they

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Speaker 4: So there's another lady actually that figures into this, a

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Speaker 4: Charles Darrow. And that's where the story takes a kind

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Speaker 3: Well, actually, that's where the Parker Brothers official version begins. Ironically, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the inventor of Monopoly, Charles.

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Speaker 3: Darrow, right, so he was like a radiator salesman during

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Speaker 4: This is the thirties, right, Yeah, I mean it was ironically, again,

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Speaker 3: Well, I supposedly that's what caught the Parker Brothers' attention

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Speaker 4: Apparently he didn't innovate it at all. He kind of

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Speaker 3: And the Parker Brothers said, we don't think too much

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Speaker 4: Yeah, without pattenting it, right.

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Speaker 3: And the Parker brothers said, you know what, it's the depression.

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Speaker 3: And this guy's selling these things like hotcakes. You know what, sir,

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Speaker 3: We will buy your idea from you. And Charles Darrow

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Speaker 3: we also need to buy the patent off from this

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Speaker 4: Yeah, which they did. The game was still stolen, I say,

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Speaker 4: even though they eventually did pay her money. But part

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Speaker 4: her patent and said, you know what, we're gonna We'll

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Speaker 4: sell a few of your other game ideas too. None

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Speaker 4: Well, there's a lot of teases in this one far.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and the game is based on Atlantic City. Those

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Speaker 4: There's a lot of those out there, I've learned.

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Speaker 4: Well, she pointed out that it's interesting that it mirrored

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Speaker 4: That's if you're playing monopoly. Yeah, that's what I would do.

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Speaker 3: And maybe just you know, don't charge anybody in the Alanta. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: That's exactly.

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Speaker 3: And Marvin Gardens apparently is misspelled.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the E instead of an eye or E instead

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Speaker 3: There's a lot of Monopoly facts dropping all around us right.

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Speaker 4: Now, I know it's raining thimbles.

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Speaker 4: All right, So we were just talking about Atlantic City.

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Speaker 4: favorite sports team. I have. Personally, my version is a

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Speaker 3: Nice. Yeah, I guess has Bro's like, you got some money,

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Speaker 3: sure you can license this, make your own Monopoly game.

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Speaker 4: There's a Simpsons Monopoly. I haven't played it though.

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Speaker 3: And now, in addition to the licensed versions that you

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Speaker 3: Monopoly here and now what does that even mean? Super corporate? Oh?

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Speaker 4: Is this the corporate one?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Okay, it's like everything is multiplied by I think

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Speaker 4: Is this one where they replaced the the railroads are

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Speaker 4: Sony and yeah, god, who would want to play that?

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Speaker 3: Some people? Do?

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Speaker 4: I mean I'm not a purist because I had the

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Speaker 4: To play as Paramount Pictures and to buy the McDonald's property.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just me. So there are a bunch of

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Speaker 3: different versions, but the one we're going to talk about,

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Speaker 3: thousand and eight rules.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and there's actually coming soon later this year. There

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Speaker 4: you can go online at my Monopoly and you can

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Speaker 4: design your own board, is that right, and do like

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Speaker 4: for you. And I think it's like one hundred and

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Speaker 3: Wow. Money bags you can get.

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Speaker 4: Oh, I'm not gonna do it. You can't do the

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Speaker 3: I was talking to whoever went and got it?

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Speaker 4: Oh sure, yeah, rich uncle, rich penny bags.

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Speaker 3: That's what you should have said, rich uncle penny bag.

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Speaker 3: Penny bags just sounds not that wealthy. Well, actually, I

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Speaker 4: He Forbes has their silly fictional fifteen list of fictional

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Speaker 4: characters wealth, and he in twenty thirteen was number thirteen.

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Speaker 3: Jeez is Stars declined, some.

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Speaker 4: Huh, guess who the first.

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Speaker 3: The richest fictional character is the Incredible Hulk.

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Speaker 4: No, he was not rich. Scrooge McDuck.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, well dude, he had that gold.

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Speaker 4: Vault apparently sixty five billion. Number two was Smaug, which

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Speaker 3: Smaug from like.

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Speaker 4: One of the rings. It's a dragon, I think I had,

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Speaker 4: like it was a bunch of gold. Carlisle Cullen number three,

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Speaker 3: Who is number three?

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Speaker 4: Carlile Cullen from Twilight?

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Speaker 3: Who is that?

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Speaker 4: He was the dad vampire dad of the Vampire family

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Speaker 4: keeps accumulating. Well yeah, Bruce Wayne, Richie Rich, Christian.

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Speaker 3: Gray, Richie Rich. I forgot about him.

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Speaker 4: He's number seven.

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Speaker 3: He had a robot made and a crazy like a

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Speaker 4: He Sure like a Richie Rich robot of himself.

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Speaker 3: I think he had that too, But no, it was made.

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Speaker 3: Was a robot, wasn't it?

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Speaker 4: That was the Jetsons.

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Speaker 3: No, he had a too.

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Speaker 4: I thought Monty Burns at number ten was pretty good.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that's going, although I would guess mister Monopoly

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Speaker 4: But yeah, thirteen and they put it out each year

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Speaker 4: and it's dumb. Can we just admit that.

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Speaker 3: I was thrilled by it? Okay, we just spent three

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well that's true.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so Chuckers, Yeah, you want to talk about the

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Speaker 3: rules of the game again, two thousand and eight rules

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Speaker 3: if you are a Monopoly purist, and like, I'm sorry,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well, let's talk about the game board itself. Just

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Speaker 4: so if you haven't played it, I'm surprised because I

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Speaker 4: think like a billion people have played the game. But

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Speaker 4: if you haven't, when you get your Monopoly game, you're

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Speaker 4: going to open it up and you're going to have

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Speaker 4: a board with all these different properties and a square.

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Speaker 4: You have two dice twelve they call them tokens. That's

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Speaker 4: not the right amount either, is it.

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Speaker 3: No, there's eight. Yeah. I don't understand where they got

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Speaker 3: there's only eight there. Yeah, there's a can we go over, Sure,

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Speaker 3: there's a wheelbarrow, a Scottie dog, Yeah, top hat, a

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Speaker 3: cat which replaced the iron in twenty thirteen. Yeah, there

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Speaker 3: was a big two do because Parker Bros. Has Bros. Like,

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Speaker 3: we haven't made a lot of money off of this

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Speaker 3: for a couple months, so let's just do something.

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Speaker 4: Well, they let people vote at least, which is kind

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Speaker 4: of cool, right.

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Speaker 3: But it was also did you see the other ones

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Speaker 3: that they were voting for, like a robot? Yeah, Richie

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Speaker 3: Rich's made a guitar, a guitar. They didn't make the

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Speaker 3: cut though, No, they got voted out and the cat

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Speaker 3: got voted in. Yeah, the iron got booted.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I only got eight percent of the vote. There's

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Speaker 4: the classic shoe of course, or boot, which is modeled

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Speaker 4: kept it the same.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's one of the original ones. The Scottie Dog

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think that was supposed to be the

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Speaker 3: Is that right?

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Speaker 4: Benny bags, Penny bags should be cash bags, fat stacks,

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Speaker 4: and the military, well, the cannon and the battleship. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: they were from a failed game called Conflict and they

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Speaker 4: let's just throw them a monopoly for now.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 4: It's pretty smart.

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Speaker 3: But they faced the cannon out because it's just too

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Speaker 4: It just says with any without any fanfare or vote

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Speaker 4: it's hush hush, yeah, it's probably because of violence.

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Speaker 3: There's a conspiracy afoot. There's the race car. Yeah, every

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I didn't know that. Yeah, they Earnhardt.

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Speaker 3: I guess so.

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Speaker 4: Uh or purse has been retired. Yeah, the rocking horse

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I'm doing my best Ben Bull in pressing.

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Speaker 3: Did you do did you get wheelbarrow in there yet?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? That was always my favorite.

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Speaker 3: Actually I don't remember what my favorite was.

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Speaker 4: It fit on my pinky and I used to draw

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Speaker 3: What you didn't know was retired?

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Speaker 4: Now yeah, it's kind of sad. Yeah, and now they're

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Speaker 3: The sack of money and a purse, those are a

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm the cat. Come on, yeah, cat people.

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Speaker 3: I'm sure they're like, yeah, yeah, that's exactly right. I

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Speaker 4: And I am a cat person, you know.

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Speaker 3: And even you think it's stupid exactly. So those are

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Speaker 3: the tokens. Some of those tokens that we mentioned you're

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and that is your piece, that is what represents

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Speaker 4: you in the game. Yes, again for the three people

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Speaker 3: Right, yeah, because supposedly, at least as far as Hasbro calculates,

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Speaker 4: It sounds like an old number.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Okay, So you've got the box open, you got

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Speaker 3: sixteen community Chess cards, Yeah, a title D card for

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Speaker 3: each property. It's got the information on it, like how

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Speaker 4: Man, I think that's where it grabs kids because and

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Speaker 4: they even pointed out in this article that's it's kind

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Speaker 3: Yeah, especially the the five hundred dollars bill ones.

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Speaker 4: Oh man, that gold bill.

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Speaker 3: it's definitely golden rod like yellow. But I remember the

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00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:14,840
Speaker 3: five hundred it was. Yeah, I guess gold is the

442
00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:15,280
Speaker 3: way to go.

443
00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:19,240
Speaker 4: Yeah. See I was a cash hoarder, which is no

444
00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:20,240
Speaker 4: way to win a monopoly.

445
00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:21,840
Speaker 3: No. I thought it was I can't save.

446
00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:25,080
Speaker 4: No, I just thought that just figures for me though, Like.

447
00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:27,080
Speaker 3: You gotta spend money to make money.

448
00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:29,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was like, look at all this cash, right

449
00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:31,360
Speaker 4: that I will soon be paying to everyone else.

450
00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:33,320
Speaker 3: You just keep wandering off from the table and try

451
00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:35,480
Speaker 3: to buy stuff with it.

452
00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:35,520
Speaker 4: Did not work.

453
00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:40,000
Speaker 3: So Chuck, You've got the board laid out and if

454
00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:42,240
Speaker 3: you count them, if you're that kind of person, yeah,

455
00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:46,119
Speaker 3: you're gonna find that. There's forty squares, that's right. I believe,

456
00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:49,920
Speaker 3: twenty two of which are no, twenty eight of which

457
00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:50,880
Speaker 3: can be purchased.

458
00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:55,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, twenty two are properties. You've got your your electric

459
00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:56,159
Speaker 4: company and water works.

460
00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:59,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, suckers bet. And then you've got the four railroads.

461
00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:00,000
Speaker 4: Four railroads.

462
00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:02,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, so that's twenty eight.

463
00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:03,400
Speaker 4: That's right.

464
00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:05,760
Speaker 3: There are others that you can't buy. So, for example,

465
00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:07,840
Speaker 3: there's a luxury tax square.

466
00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:09,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, you got to pay what one hundred dollars when

467
00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:10,440
Speaker 4: you land on that.

468
00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:12,560
Speaker 3: I believe, so just right out of just right out

469
00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:14,720
Speaker 3: of your pocket. There's an income tax square.

470
00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:16,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, good.

471
00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:20,199
Speaker 3: There's the go square, which is where you start, and

472
00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:23,320
Speaker 3: then when you come back around you collect two hundred dollars,

473
00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:25,680
Speaker 3: which is in Monopoly called your salary.

474
00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:27,560
Speaker 4: That's right. I never knew that.

475
00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:28,320
Speaker 3: I didn't either.

476
00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:31,840
Speaker 4: And there's a lot of rules in here, and I

477
00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:33,600
Speaker 4: guess it's a good time to point out Monopoly is

478
00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:36,640
Speaker 4: one of those games where house rules are highly encouraged

479
00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:39,119
Speaker 4: and a lot of the fun of the game, and

480
00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:45,240
Speaker 4: in fact, to make more money, Monopoly this year are

481
00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:48,760
Speaker 4: incorporating the top house rules, as voted on by fans

482
00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:51,560
Speaker 4: as official rules for this one version.

483
00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:53,560
Speaker 3: In a seventy dollars hard backbook.

484
00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:56,800
Speaker 4: I don't see why a lot of people were in

485
00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:58,560
Speaker 4: sense they were like, no one plays by the real

486
00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:01,320
Speaker 4: rules anyway, So why by they're packaging it and selling it?

487
00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:01,520
Speaker 3: Right?

488
00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:03,360
Speaker 4: And they went, I think you just said.

489
00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:06,840
Speaker 3: The word sell someone as they sell, there unlies the answer.

490
00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:11,480
Speaker 3: So you've got, oh, there's and so there's forty squares,

491
00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:14,040
Speaker 3: but there's actually forty one places you can go to

492
00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:18,119
Speaker 3: on the board because jail is divided into two squares. Right,

493
00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:21,080
Speaker 3: you got the jail with the jailbird. What's his name?

494
00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:27,240
Speaker 4: Uh, I can't remember, Johnny Jailbird or something, Jake the Jailbird.

495
00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:30,159
Speaker 3: Right, okay, which is where Jake the jailbird is. And

496
00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:33,600
Speaker 3: then you've got the lower part of it. It's just visiting.

497
00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:36,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, if you want to visit Jake, give them a

498
00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:38,960
Speaker 4: bunch cake with a nail file in. It'd be very

499
00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:39,480
Speaker 4: old school.

500
00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:43,440
Speaker 3: Or a monopoly set with maybe a map with an

501
00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:45,440
Speaker 3: escape route embedded in it.

502
00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:47,000
Speaker 4: Hey, that sounds familiar.

503
00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:50,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, POWs in World War Two were given such monopoly sets,

504
00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:52,920
Speaker 3: which is strange to me. It's like where the Nazis

505
00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:56,600
Speaker 3: allowing Monopoly sets to be delivered to POW's. Is that

506
00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:59,080
Speaker 3: what I'm seeing here? Maybe here's the Burmese.

507
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:03,040
Speaker 4: You've seen the like The Great Escape, on those those

508
00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:05,760
Speaker 4: the war prison camps in World War Two. It seemed

509
00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:07,840
Speaker 4: like a lot of them. They let them like garden

510
00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:09,959
Speaker 4: and they were kind of chummy with him. You saw

511
00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:10,800
Speaker 4: Hogan's heroes.

512
00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:13,280
Speaker 3: I saw Hogan's heroes. I didn't put a lot of

513
00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:16,200
Speaker 3: stock into it. Yeah, but yeah, no, I just figured

514
00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:19,359
Speaker 3: they played soccer. Maybe the Japanese or the Burmese, or

515
00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:22,640
Speaker 3: the the Italians. I could see like saying like, yeah,

516
00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:25,920
Speaker 3: he bring to Monopoly and who cares? But the Nazis,

517
00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:28,560
Speaker 3: I would think, would. I just don't see that.

518
00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:31,639
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not saying it was a walk in the park,

519
00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:35,920
Speaker 4: but I think from the depiction and like, like I said,

520
00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:39,680
Speaker 4: like the Great Escape, it's not like Vietnam prison camp.

521
00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:44,320
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, you know, like they weren't playing.

522
00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:48,640
Speaker 4: Soccer or Monopoly, right, they were playing Survive Another Day

523
00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:52,560
Speaker 4: that game. Yeah, I'm not making light of that. By

524
00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:52,840
Speaker 4: the way.

525
00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:54,560
Speaker 3: Oh I didn't think you were.

526
00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:58,040
Speaker 4: And I'm basing everything on war movies, so I'm probably wrong.

527
00:25:58,280 --> 00:25:59,520
Speaker 3: I've seen uncommon Valor.

528
00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:01,480
Speaker 4: That was a good movie.

529
00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:02,240
Speaker 3: That was a great movie.

530
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:04,280
Speaker 4: It doesn't age well though, really.

531
00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:07,840
Speaker 3: No. Remember that menu with the gun silhouettes on it.

532
00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:10,480
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, and when you're twelve you're like, oh my god.

533
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:13,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like I would buy that one and that one.

534
00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:15,040
Speaker 3: Yeah.

535
00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:16,440
Speaker 4: All right, So where were we?

536
00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:21,119
Speaker 3: We were talking about the board itself. Yes, and the different squares.

537
00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:24,680
Speaker 4: Yes, there are the cards that you can draw as well,

538
00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:28,000
Speaker 4: Community chest and chance squares. When you land on these,

539
00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:29,760
Speaker 4: you draw a card from one of those two piles.

540
00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:33,080
Speaker 4: And there are various things in there, like you want

541
00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:37,399
Speaker 4: to fashion modeling contest, you get ten dollars.

542
00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:38,760
Speaker 3: And there a dog show one in there too.

543
00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:41,280
Speaker 4: I think there's probably a dog show. And there's also

544
00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:43,560
Speaker 4: you know, you have street repairs.

545
00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:46,560
Speaker 3: Or those are big time.

546
00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:49,880
Speaker 4: General repairs, and that's based on your properties that you own.

547
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:54,280
Speaker 3: That's right. They percentage they can have you pretty hard. Yeah. Yeah,

548
00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:57,879
Speaker 3: it's like in real life, that's right, you know. And

549
00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:03,960
Speaker 3: that's funny because the monopoly what was her name, Lizzie Maggie.

550
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:04,640
Speaker 4: Yeah.

551
00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:10,880
Speaker 3: In an interview she gave with some leftist magazine at

552
00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:15,800
Speaker 3: the time, she said she basically called the thing the

553
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:16,639
Speaker 3: game of life.

554
00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:19,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was already taken out.

555
00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:20,240
Speaker 3: I don't know, was it.

556
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:23,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was that's around since the like mid eighteen hundred.

557
00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:26,160
Speaker 3: Oh okay, it's old. I thought she was being prescient.

558
00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:28,560
Speaker 4: Now she was being a glib.

559
00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:31,720
Speaker 3: She was making a pop culture reference for the time.

560
00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:32,440
Speaker 4: Yeah exactly.

561
00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:34,320
Speaker 3: But did you know apparently there used to be a

562
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:38,399
Speaker 3: square on the Game of Life board for suicide. Really,

563
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:40,080
Speaker 3: it was the way that you could go.

564
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:41,840
Speaker 4: I never really played that. I think I played a

565
00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:42,520
Speaker 4: couple of times.

566
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:44,480
Speaker 3: I never did either. I always thought it was kind

567
00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:46,560
Speaker 3: of like you get the whole family in the car

568
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:47,840
Speaker 3: and it's like whatever.

569
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:51,840
Speaker 4: Yeah we did. I mean we weren't the biggest game

570
00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:55,080
Speaker 4: players as families, but we did Monopoly some and Yachtzi

571
00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:55,760
Speaker 4: was a big one.

572
00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:57,840
Speaker 3: Yachtzi was great that I still enjoyed today.

573
00:27:57,880 --> 00:27:58,520
Speaker 4: I love Yatzi.

574
00:27:58,640 --> 00:27:58,880
Speaker 3: Sure.

575
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:03,080
Speaker 4: Yeah. We also played this game called Bull and it

576
00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:06,360
Speaker 4: was like a stock trading game, oh yeah, with cards.

577
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:08,600
Speaker 4: And it's just now occurring to me that all these

578
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:12,000
Speaker 4: games are just teaching you about life. Yeah, it's like

579
00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:15,679
Speaker 4: real Monopoly is nothing but real estate. The Game of

580
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:18,199
Speaker 4: Life is everything, right. This game Bowl was about the

581
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:18,840
Speaker 4: stock market.

582
00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:26,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, sorry, it was about sarcastic. Sorry, yeah, because you.

583
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:29,200
Speaker 4: Had to say it like a jerk, right, Candy Land,

584
00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:30,280
Speaker 4: we know what that's all about.

585
00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:35,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, drugs, right, probably shoots and ladders tall you to

586
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:36,840
Speaker 3: stay away from snakes.

587
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:38,640
Speaker 4: Yeah. Operation taught you how to be a doctor.

588
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:41,720
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that's right, that's where I got my MD.

589
00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:45,120
Speaker 4: And then of course Battleship taught you how to be

590
00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:48,200
Speaker 4: a warmonger. That's so do risk can take great pride.

591
00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:49,880
Speaker 3: Risk taught you to be the Antichrist.

592
00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:52,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, risk, we should do what. There is an article

593
00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:53,760
Speaker 4: on risk I saw.

594
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:56,280
Speaker 3: I looked it over. It didn't seem as interesting as

595
00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:57,040
Speaker 3: this one, though. Yeah.

596
00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:59,120
Speaker 4: I don't know if the history is as interesting for sure.

597
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:02,240
Speaker 3: And I mean, isn't that what's interesting about any game,

598
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:04,240
Speaker 3: the history of it? Yeah?

599
00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:05,360
Speaker 4: I think so.

600
00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:10,680
Speaker 3: So let's talk about the rules, dude, Okay, let's start

601
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:11,920
Speaker 3: at the beginning. We'll start it.

602
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:14,600
Speaker 4: Go Go is where you start, and that's where you

603
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:16,480
Speaker 4: Like you said, you collect the two hundred every time

604
00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:19,360
Speaker 4: you land on it or pass it. Sometimes house rules

605
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:23,160
Speaker 4: you get four hundred for actually landing on it, oh yeah,

606
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:24,560
Speaker 4: and only two hundred for passing it.

607
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:26,800
Speaker 3: We never Oh that makes sense. That's good good.

608
00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:31,680
Speaker 4: But free parking is where we had house rules. That

609
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:34,160
Speaker 4: is a space on the corner of the board where

610
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:37,080
Speaker 4: you supposedly, per the official rules, don't do anything.

611
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:39,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's nothing. It's just a space.

612
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:42,880
Speaker 4: But what we did was we donated all the collected

613
00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:46,640
Speaker 4: taxes and fees and put it under free parking, and

614
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:48,720
Speaker 4: if you land on that, that was like a lottery win.

615
00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:51,040
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, and a lot of people play that way.

616
00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:52,400
Speaker 3: I think I've heard of that one before.

617
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was, you know, we were a bunch of

618
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:58,840
Speaker 4: pepe never mind. I liked it because it allowed you

619
00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:02,720
Speaker 4: more money, which is favorite thing cash, it's the lotto.

620
00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:06,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, we got ahead of ourselves. Let's just start

621
00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:09,880
Speaker 3: at the real beginning. Okay, So everybody sits down at

622
00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:13,600
Speaker 3: the table. Yeah, maybe somebody, Yeah, somebody gets a drink.

623
00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:15,880
Speaker 3: Maybe you have to wait because somebody has to go

624
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:17,840
Speaker 3: to the bathroom. So you're all sitting there quietly. And

625
00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:20,720
Speaker 3: then when everybody's finally at the table, yeah, you guys

626
00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:24,400
Speaker 3: select a banker, huh, and the banker distributes the monopoly

627
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:27,760
Speaker 3: money fifteen hundred dollars to each player two five hundreds,

628
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:31,959
Speaker 3: two one hundred, two fifties six twenties and five tens,

629
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:35,520
Speaker 3: five fives, and five ones. That's thirteen hundred dollars.

630
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:38,520
Speaker 4: And the goal of the game that we're getting to

631
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:41,440
Speaker 4: here at thirty minutes in is to bankrupt all of

632
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:44,440
Speaker 4: your family and friends. That's the whole point, pretty much.

633
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:47,920
Speaker 4: Some people put a time limit because this game can

634
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:50,760
Speaker 4: go on forever, and other people say, no, it's got

635
00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:53,560
Speaker 4: to You got to finish it by bankrupting everyone or

636
00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:56,200
Speaker 4: until the last person is like, I give geez, I've

637
00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:56,880
Speaker 4: got eight dollars.

638
00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:57,720
Speaker 3: I hate this game.

639
00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:01,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's usually me, right, and he's usually has her

640
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:01,800
Speaker 4: foot on my throat.

641
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:02,880
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah.

642
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:04,920
Speaker 4: We played two person Monopoly, which is just not fun.

643
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:08,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, because you know one of you is gonna lose.

644
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:10,960
Speaker 4: No, that's not why. It's just it's a game that's

645
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:11,920
Speaker 4: more fun with more people.

646
00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:14,800
Speaker 3: I think. Yeah, I got it. Yeah, So okay, So

647
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:18,080
Speaker 3: everybody's got fifteen hord bucks. You roll the dice to

648
00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:20,880
Speaker 3: see who goes first. Whoever rolls the highest goes first.

649
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:21,560
Speaker 4: Classic move.

650
00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:25,280
Speaker 3: Then you roll both die and you start moving from

651
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:28,720
Speaker 3: the ghost square and you go clockwise around the board. Yeah,

652
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:32,320
Speaker 3: and when you land on a property this I didn't know, Yeah,

653
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:34,120
Speaker 3: which is kind of a basic rule, I guess, but

654
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:36,240
Speaker 3: I never played it this way. When you land on

655
00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:38,520
Speaker 3: a property, yeah, you have the option to buy it.

656
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:40,680
Speaker 3: I knew that part. Yeah, but if you decline to

657
00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:43,120
Speaker 3: buy it, then then the property goes up for auction.

658
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:45,719
Speaker 4: I've never not only have I never played it the way,

659
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:46,920
Speaker 4: I've never heard of anyone playing it that.

660
00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:49,120
Speaker 3: Okay, so it's not just me, not just you, all right,

661
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:55,000
Speaker 3: So I guess the during an auction, not only the person,

662
00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:59,400
Speaker 3: not only everybody else, but the banker and the person

663
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:03,040
Speaker 3: who declined to buy it can bid on.

664
00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:05,080
Speaker 4: It, which didn't make sense unless you're trying to get

665
00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:07,320
Speaker 4: it for lower because yah, can't you start the bidding

666
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:07,880
Speaker 4: it wherever?

667
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:10,680
Speaker 3: Yes, you can start the bidding anywhere you want, so

668
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:13,520
Speaker 3: you could consumably get it for lower. And if you're

669
00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:16,760
Speaker 3: playing against somebody who declines to buy something and then

670
00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:19,239
Speaker 3: starts bidding on it at a lower price, keep an

671
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:21,680
Speaker 3: eye on that person because that's a shark they're out

672
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:23,320
Speaker 3: to win. Yeah.

673
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:26,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, I hate that rule because to me, it's just like,

674
00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:28,720
Speaker 4: what's the point in rolling and landing on something? I

675
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:31,240
Speaker 4: guess right at first refusal, but yeah, I don't know.

676
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:31,880
Speaker 4: I don't like it.

677
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:35,120
Speaker 3: No, And plus the Quakers were like, we specifically put

678
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:37,120
Speaker 3: a price on these things so there wouldn't be a

679
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 3: lot of yelling. Yeah, we don't like yelling.

680
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:45,040
Speaker 4: They had another game to follow called the quiet roof

681
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:46,240
Speaker 4: raising Ceremony.

682
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:50,280
Speaker 3: Those are not Quakers. That was fun, that was the honest.

683
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 3: They're different.

684
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:53,400
Speaker 4: Oh don't you think Quakers raise some roofs?

685
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:57,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, they do. Hate No party like a Quaker party.

686
00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:01,120
Speaker 4: That's right, all right. So let's you buy all of

687
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:04,000
Speaker 4: the properties that you know they're they're divided into different colors,

688
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 4: like there's three green around you know, green ones, orange ones,

689
00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:10,640
Speaker 4: blue ones, light blue. If you buy all of the

690
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:13,880
Speaker 4: properties that are tied together by a single color, then

691
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:16,120
Speaker 4: you have what's called the monopoly, and that means you

692
00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:19,120
Speaker 4: can then charge double rent, although we never do that.

693
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 4: We just keep it single rent. And you now have

694
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:24,920
Speaker 4: the option to buy houses. And then once you have

695
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:27,840
Speaker 4: enough houses I think three, you can then buy a hotel.

696
00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:31,960
Speaker 3: Right, and let's call improvements. You're improving your land. And posedly,

697
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:35,760
Speaker 3: once you start to do improvements, things change a little bit.

698
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:38,560
Speaker 3: Not only can you start making more money, but it's

699
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:43,280
Speaker 3: actually harder to mortgage your properties if you are if

700
00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:46,920
Speaker 3: you find yourself in debt, right, because this is this

701
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:49,920
Speaker 3: is how crazy complicated it is. Like I don't think

702
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:52,160
Speaker 3: I was ever paying that much attention to monopoly that

703
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:56,280
Speaker 3: I ever mortgaged a piece of land. Oh really, I

704
00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:58,160
Speaker 3: think it's like sorry to get into debt or whatever.

705
00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 3: It was, like I'm done, I'm done. But apparently so

706
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:04,600
Speaker 3: if you find yourself indebted, and let's say you have

707
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:08,960
Speaker 3: a monopoly and you want to mortgage, you can mortgage

708
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:12,279
Speaker 3: just one of the spots, right, yes, But to do so,

709
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:16,759
Speaker 3: let's say you have a hotel on that piece of

710
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:19,840
Speaker 3: land that you're mortgaging, you first have to sell the

711
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:23,480
Speaker 3: hotel back to the bank at half price. Yeah, and

712
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:28,080
Speaker 3: then you can mortgage the land. You're still I think,

713
00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:31,719
Speaker 3: are you collecting rent on that land or doesn't go

714
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:32,359
Speaker 3: right to the bank.

715
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:35,319
Speaker 4: Now that's where you just turn the card over and

716
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:38,480
Speaker 4: it's just you still technically own it, right, but you

717
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:39,759
Speaker 4: can't collect any rents on it.

718
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:41,560
Speaker 3: But you can't collect rent and everything on the other

719
00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:44,680
Speaker 3: two pieces of property or the other one, depending on

720
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:46,640
Speaker 3: which one you own. I don't know, really you can.

721
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:47,279
Speaker 3: I looked it up.

722
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:48,760
Speaker 4: So that doesn't bust up the monopoly.

723
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:51,280
Speaker 3: No it doesn't. Okay, so you still own the monopoly.

724
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:53,840
Speaker 3: It's just that that one is mortgaged, and then to

725
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:56,040
Speaker 3: get it back you have to pay the bank the

726
00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:58,279
Speaker 3: mortgage plus ten percent. Right.

727
00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:00,799
Speaker 4: And this is where you can get silly with your

728
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 4: house rules if you want. Yeah, you know, like as

729
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:06,239
Speaker 4: far as mortgaging and stuff like that, because supposedly it's

730
00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:08,480
Speaker 4: a rule too where you can't. The only thing that

731
00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:11,600
Speaker 4: is not allowed is a personal loan. And I did

732
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 4: all kinds of personal loaning because I was mister cash.

733
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:17,280
Speaker 3: What were your your interest rates?

734
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:18,280
Speaker 4: I don't remember.

735
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:20,359
Speaker 3: Did you break any usury laws? No?

736
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:22,600
Speaker 4: That was a kid, so it was probably just.

737
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:25,560
Speaker 3: Like just painting back whenever ten percent or something.

738
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:27,759
Speaker 4: I guess I'm not the right I'm not enough of

739
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:30,359
Speaker 4: a You're not the shark capitalin though.

740
00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 3: You're not the one who like declines to buy something

741
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:34,320
Speaker 3: so you can bid on at a lower price.

742
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:35,319
Speaker 4: I'm playing candy Land.

743
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:36,960
Speaker 3: I loved candy Land.

744
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:37,920
Speaker 4: Actually I never played that.

745
00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:40,439
Speaker 3: It was a great game, was it because of the art?

746
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:42,000
Speaker 4: Was this crazy?

747
00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:44,480
Speaker 3: It was beautiful stuff. And then nowadays you look at

748
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:46,759
Speaker 3: the candy Land board and you're like, poor kids. Yeah,

749
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:47,920
Speaker 3: they don't know what they're missing.

750
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:50,600
Speaker 4: I just got a Ticket to Ride game that I

751
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:52,000
Speaker 4: haven't played yet. Have you heard of that one?

752
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:52,239
Speaker 3: No?

753
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:55,360
Speaker 4: It was a German game that's like one game of

754
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:58,800
Speaker 4: the year. It's a train train game, like you established

755
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:02,080
Speaker 4: train routes between cities. Uh huh, but it's supposedly like

756
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:05,839
Speaker 4: it sounds like, really that's fun, but it's supposedly great.

757
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:08,640
Speaker 3: I just bled a tear. Did you at the thought

758
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:08,920
Speaker 3: of it?

759
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, it does sound pretty bad. Yeah, but no, it's

760
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:15,759
Speaker 4: it's one game of the year. Those Germans and watch

761
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:17,880
Speaker 4: people Ticket to Ride enthusiasts will be like, dude, it's

762
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:18,399
Speaker 4: the best ever.

763
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 3: I'm sure we're gonna know. I've heard like German game

764
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:21,960
Speaker 3: night is like a thing now.

765
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:24,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think they're a little more heady.

766
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:26,440
Speaker 3: Is that what it is?

767
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:28,279
Speaker 4: I think? So this seems like I read over the

768
00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:30,839
Speaker 4: rules the other night just so I would know what

769
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:33,400
Speaker 4: to do. And uh, because you got to like the

770
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:35,520
Speaker 4: purchase over the game has to be the game explainer

771
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:35,959
Speaker 4: as well.

772
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:38,759
Speaker 3: Right, do you have to listen to craft work while

773
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 3: you play? Yeah, well you don't have to, but it

774
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:42,080
Speaker 3: helps house rules.

775
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:43,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, so.

776
00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:47,799
Speaker 3: I guess we've Oh and we said you you can

777
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:49,720
Speaker 3: do anything but give personal loans.

778
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:51,480
Speaker 4: Right, that's what the official rules stays.

779
00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:53,920
Speaker 3: So like you can I can buy from you on

780
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:56,400
Speaker 3: the side or something like that, or you can hold

781
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:59,080
Speaker 3: something up for auction, whatever anybody's doing.

782
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:01,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, And we always played where you had to do

783
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:02,960
Speaker 4: that when it was your turn. That makes sense and

784
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:04,560
Speaker 4: that that would take your turn as well.

785
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:08,920
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, but again, the whole point is is to

786
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:11,839
Speaker 3: be the person who owns the most stuff so that

787
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:14,920
Speaker 3: you can bankrupt all of your family and friends, right,

788
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:17,920
Speaker 3: And I mean those are the rules, but there's actually

789
00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:20,760
Speaker 3: strategy to it, and people pay a lot of attention

790
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:23,760
Speaker 3: to this. You know, there's a Monopoly World Championship roughly

791
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:26,320
Speaker 3: every four years, although it's been the last one was

792
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:29,680
Speaker 3: in two thousand and nine. Yeah, so we're due.

793
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:33,640
Speaker 4: An American lawyer one right in two thousand and nine.

794
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:36,480
Speaker 3: And no, I think it was a Swede or anti man.

795
00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:38,560
Speaker 4: Okay, maybe he was the North American.

796
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 3: That's what he was, the North American champ. Yeah, and he.

797
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:43,680
Speaker 4: Represented the US and the World championships.

798
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 3: It sounds so silly, weird, yeah, huh, well he uh

799
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:50,080
Speaker 3: he used the iron.

800
00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:54,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I think the American used the thimble.

801
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:54,920
Speaker 3: Gotcha.

802
00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:59,919
Speaker 4: Let's Terry just laughed. She was like, really, that's a

803
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:01,399
Speaker 4: that's the fact that people need.

804
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:05,719
Speaker 3: Well, we're trying to really appeal to the purists here too,

805
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:08,360
Speaker 3: which want everybody to be engaged. Yeah, all right, so

806
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:10,359
Speaker 3: let's do one more message break and then we'll come

807
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:27,360
Speaker 3: back and talk strategy. Okay, chucker, So again the point bankrupt.

808
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:30,160
Speaker 3: Everybody bankrupt, But there's like techniques that you can use

809
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 3: to more efficiently bankrupt people, like the overall the best strategy,

810
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:40,200
Speaker 3: the basic strategy is to buy everything every chance you have.

811
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:43,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I looked up there's a lot of

812
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:47,200
Speaker 4: different people's strategies and opinions online. I did find this

813
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:50,080
Speaker 4: one from a guy and that was his strategy is

814
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 4: buy everything. It doesn't matter what it is, right, even

815
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:56,440
Speaker 4: the suckers bet the electric company in the water works.

816
00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:58,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, which I don't pay off.

817
00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:01,279
Speaker 4: Really, he said, buy it all and never have more

818
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:03,359
Speaker 4: than one hundred dollars in cash is his rule.

819
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:04,080
Speaker 3: Wow.

820
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:07,200
Speaker 4: He says the number one people mistake people make is

821
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:08,919
Speaker 4: hoarding cash like I did.

822
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:11,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're making the number one mistake.

823
00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:15,120
Speaker 4: That's right. And he says that buy everything and do

824
00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:17,400
Speaker 4: whatever it takes to get a monopoly, even a bad one,

825
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:20,600
Speaker 4: Like he will trade to get a bad monopoly and

826
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:23,000
Speaker 4: give someone a good monopoly even as long as he

827
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:26,240
Speaker 4: gets the monopoly. Oh gotcha, And he says it's fine

828
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:28,239
Speaker 4: because then you know, you two will probably take out

829
00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:31,640
Speaker 4: everyone else. The point is just to get a monopoly

830
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:33,399
Speaker 4: and improve it as fast as you can.

831
00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:38,040
Speaker 3: So supposedly, though, a general rule of thumb among like

832
00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:41,440
Speaker 3: hardcore monopoly players is that while you're improving your monopoly

833
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:44,239
Speaker 3: your properties, yeah, by adding houses or whatever, you want

834
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:47,200
Speaker 3: to stop at three houses, yes, because the jump from

835
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:51,719
Speaker 3: the third house to the hotel, yeah, is financially it

836
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:53,880
Speaker 3: doesn't pay off. Usually it's over improvement.

837
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, just like in your home, Like, don't build a

838
00:39:57,680 --> 00:39:59,799
Speaker 4: eighty thousand dollars kitchen because you're not gonna get your

839
00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:03,279
Speaker 4: money back on that. Right, So three houses, this guy

840
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:06,880
Speaker 4: doesn't subscribe to that. He buys everything.

841
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:07,880
Speaker 3: And puts hotels on it.

842
00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:09,839
Speaker 4: Yeah, he says, as first as he gets as soon

843
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:13,000
Speaker 4: as he gets his first monopoly, he mortgages everything else

844
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:15,920
Speaker 4: to get cash back, right, and then uses that cash

845
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:16,920
Speaker 4: to improve.

846
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:20,399
Speaker 3: Wow, which I thought was a little risky. Yeah.

847
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:23,120
Speaker 4: A couple of bad roles. I mean, it's a game

848
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:25,200
Speaker 4: of strategy, but the end of the day, you're rolling dice,

849
00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:27,399
Speaker 4: and so it is very much a game of chance.

850
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:30,240
Speaker 3: I'll but that guy feels like he's on the back

851
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:34,000
Speaker 3: of a pegasust though the whole game, like he's just thrilled.

852
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:36,279
Speaker 3: He claims to have been there on the edge.

853
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:38,040
Speaker 4: He claims to have won a game in twelve minutes

854
00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:40,080
Speaker 4: one time, which I thought was shooting his own horn

855
00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:44,799
Speaker 4: a bit. Yeah, sure, but real regular strategy. You're right,

856
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:47,600
Speaker 4: they say three houses is the max you should go.

857
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:51,160
Speaker 3: And then there's also some that you should avoid, even

858
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:53,319
Speaker 3: though they seemed like very tempting. We already said the

859
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:58,040
Speaker 3: electric company and the water company, the utilities. Yeah, they

860
00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:01,360
Speaker 3: The most you can get for rent from landing on

861
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:03,080
Speaker 3: them was ten times a roll of the dice, which

862
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:05,640
Speaker 3: is one hundred and twenty bucks. But it also mas

863
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:08,840
Speaker 3: roll it could be as low as twenty dollars. Yeah,

864
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:11,759
Speaker 3: so I mean this guy would probably say, well, hey,

865
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:15,080
Speaker 3: it was worth it. I still own them, and I'm

866
00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:19,239
Speaker 3: still making money if somebody lands on them. But a

867
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:22,160
Speaker 3: lot of again, the monopoly purists say just stay away

868
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:25,399
Speaker 3: from them. Yeah, and you also may want to stay

869
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:28,920
Speaker 3: away from the most expensive ones boardwalk in park place.

870
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:33,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, there are only two of them, and they just

871
00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 4: don't get landed on very much.

872
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:36,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, so think about it right out of the gate

873
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:40,759
Speaker 3: when you're thinking of probabilities. The fact that there's two

874
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:45,160
Speaker 3: of these properties, yeah, rather than three, means that you

875
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:49,000
Speaker 3: are another player is less likely to land on your

876
00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:52,799
Speaker 3: monopoly because there's three or two instead of three. So

877
00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:53,760
Speaker 3: that's one problem.

878
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:54,080
Speaker 4: Yeah.

879
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:57,520
Speaker 3: The other problem is placement. Where they are. They're right

880
00:41:57,560 --> 00:42:01,239
Speaker 3: after Go, right before, right before go.

881
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:03,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, so it's at the end of the board essentially.

882
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:05,839
Speaker 3: No, I'm sorry, they're right before jail. No, there, right

883
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:06,319
Speaker 3: before we go.

884
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:06,960
Speaker 4: There, right before we go.

885
00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:11,520
Speaker 3: Okay, So that means that most players are going to well,

886
00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:14,200
Speaker 3: they're going to pass them for sure whenever they hit that.

887
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 4: Go directly to go exactly.

888
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:20,400
Speaker 3: Yeah. So that means that your your monopoly is going

889
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:23,520
Speaker 3: to be passed over. The likelihood of making your money

890
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:26,280
Speaker 3: back recouping it, especially if they're improved to the hilt

891
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:29,280
Speaker 3: like a really fancy hotel, means.

892
00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:29,919
Speaker 4: That there's a lot of money.

893
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:34,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, you've probably sunk a lot of money unwisely into those.

894
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:35,920
Speaker 3: You want to go for some other ones.

895
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:39,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, supposedly, and there are people that have done those.

896
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 4: This one guy. If you really want to get into monopoly, Uh,

897
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:45,360
Speaker 4: this dude, I don't even know his name, but just

898
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:48,880
Speaker 4: look up probabilities in the game of Monopoly. And Scientific

899
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:51,479
Speaker 4: American in the mid nineties at an article that talked

900
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:55,759
Speaker 4: about probabilities of landing on different spaces, but they excluded

901
00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:59,759
Speaker 4: community chest and chance and being sent to jail. So

902
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:02,560
Speaker 4: this guy said, I took all of that and included everything,

903
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:08,359
Speaker 4: and he has statistical charts long term probabilities for ending

904
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:12,240
Speaker 4: up on each square, expected income per opponent roll, yeah,

905
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:15,440
Speaker 4: average income per role, expected number of opponent roll, to

906
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:19,680
Speaker 4: recoup incremental costs, to recoup mortgages.

907
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:23,839
Speaker 3: So it's the name of his website. By the way,

908
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 3: is Monopoly was fun dot com?

909
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:31,160
Speaker 4: It totally should be. But if you just want to

910
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:35,160
Speaker 4: do some basic probabilities, the orange properties are landed on

911
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:36,440
Speaker 4: more than anyone else.

912
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:38,440
Speaker 3: Yes, and why chuck.

913
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:42,840
Speaker 4: Because they are after jail.

914
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 3: Six, eight and nine spaces after jail.

915
00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:48,120
Speaker 4: Yeah. So if you get sent to jail, which is

916
00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:50,000
Speaker 4: gonna happen at some point, and we actually didn't talk

917
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:53,239
Speaker 4: about jail, we'll talk about that, Okay, then you Yeah,

918
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:55,080
Speaker 4: chances are you're gonna hit one of those orange squares

919
00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:55,919
Speaker 4: on your way out of jail.

920
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:58,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, because you're rolling with two dice, so you're much

921
00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:00,960
Speaker 3: more likely to roll like a six, eight or a

922
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:02,800
Speaker 3: nine then you are like a two or three or

923
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:05,200
Speaker 3: a one. Yeah, it's not even possible to roll a one.

924
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:06,120
Speaker 3: Try it. You can't.

925
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:09,239
Speaker 4: You can't unless you eat one of the dice.

926
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:13,280
Speaker 3: And in which case, unless it's a house rule, everybody's

927
00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:15,480
Speaker 3: gonna yell at you and have to wait around until

928
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:16,680
Speaker 3: you poop it out to keep playing.

929
00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:18,760
Speaker 4: Actually, our rule was you had to roll the child

930
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:21,880
Speaker 4: in the one the child who ate the dice.

931
00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:24,040
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, just shake them up.

932
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:24,600
Speaker 4: Yep.

933
00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:25,960
Speaker 3: All right.

934
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:29,239
Speaker 4: So jail is on the corner of the board and

935
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:31,279
Speaker 4: you can there are a few different ways you can

936
00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:34,239
Speaker 4: go there. You can draw a go to jail card.

937
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:37,120
Speaker 4: You can throw three doubles in a row and go

938
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:41,320
Speaker 4: to jail, yeah, which I never understood, because that's a

939
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:41,880
Speaker 4: good thing.

940
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:44,680
Speaker 3: I guess, but it's also the sign of the devil.

941
00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:46,279
Speaker 3: So that's why you have to go to jail for

942
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:47,480
Speaker 3: a little while to be cleansed.

943
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:50,080
Speaker 4: Or there is a square mark to go to jail

944
00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:51,640
Speaker 4: and you can land on that and go to jail.

945
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:54,040
Speaker 4: You can also get out in three ways. You can

946
00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:55,960
Speaker 4: have that get out of jail free card. If you

947
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:58,720
Speaker 4: draw that, you can hold on to it. We could

948
00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:01,759
Speaker 4: sell it, although I think that's a house rule. You

949
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:04,239
Speaker 4: can sell it to a friend or enemy.

950
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:07,920
Speaker 3: Whoever had the most cash, right exactly.

951
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:11,840
Speaker 4: And then you basically the other ways to roll to

952
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:14,520
Speaker 4: either pay your way out with fifty bucks or to

953
00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:16,799
Speaker 4: roll your way out. The way we played it was

954
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:19,440
Speaker 4: each turn you had one chance to roll your way

955
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:20,040
Speaker 4: out of jail.

956
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:23,799
Speaker 3: So you are rolling doubles, rolling doubles, right, yeah, and

957
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:27,839
Speaker 3: then if you under official rules, if you don't roll

958
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:31,840
Speaker 3: doubles for three consecutive turns, like you get three consecutive

959
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:34,120
Speaker 3: chances to roll doubles, and if you don't on any

960
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:36,600
Speaker 3: of those turns, then you have to pay fifty bucks

961
00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:37,360
Speaker 3: to get out of jail.

962
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:40,080
Speaker 4: We just played where you just got out and you didn't.

963
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:42,960
Speaker 3: Have to pay. Well, then you guys weren't following the rules.

964
00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:45,520
Speaker 4: I told you the house rules. The house rules.

965
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:48,960
Speaker 3: So there's actually a strategy to jail. Yeah, if you

966
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:53,239
Speaker 3: go to jail early on in the game, you want

967
00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:55,759
Speaker 3: to pay your fifty bucks to get out immediately. Yeah,

968
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:58,160
Speaker 3: just pay the fifty bucks because then you can keep

969
00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 3: going around the board and there's more stuff available to buy.

970
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:01,760
Speaker 4: Yeah.

971
00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:05,200
Speaker 3: But later in the game you want to just kind

972
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:06,320
Speaker 3: of hang out in jail.

973
00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:09,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, like Josh has bought all the Orange spaces. Yeah,

974
00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:10,560
Speaker 4: and you've got hotels on each one.

975
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:11,120
Speaker 3: Yeah.

976
00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:13,120
Speaker 4: So I'm thinking it might be good to sit in

977
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:14,200
Speaker 4: jail for a few rounds.

978
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:18,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, because you can still collect rent on your properties,

979
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:21,359
Speaker 3: but the fact that you're in jail keeps you off

980
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:22,279
Speaker 3: of my properties.

981
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:25,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, and all another Bryant rule we played where when

982
00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:27,520
Speaker 4: you were in jail you could not collect any rents.

983
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:30,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that makes sense, but according to official rules,

984
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:32,560
Speaker 3: that's right. You just make as much money as you

985
00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:33,000
Speaker 3: want there.

986
00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:35,759
Speaker 4: And apparently in jail you can officially you can also

987
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:38,760
Speaker 4: buy and sell properties, yeah, and improve your and collect

988
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:42,200
Speaker 4: rent and build hotels and houses, which I thought, I

989
00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:43,680
Speaker 4: don't know. You're in jail, you can lose that.

990
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:46,799
Speaker 3: Right, It seems like it in real jail, that's the

991
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:47,399
Speaker 3: way it is.

992
00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:49,759
Speaker 4: No, it's not. You can own a house and be

993
00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:53,680
Speaker 4: in jail. I guess that's true, And technically you could

994
00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:55,960
Speaker 4: probably charge rent to someone you could sublet it, like

995
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:57,279
Speaker 4: I'm gonna be gone for three to six.

996
00:46:57,520 --> 00:46:59,920
Speaker 3: No, it's true, but what happens when the dishrush breaks?

997
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:02,200
Speaker 3: Try to get light out of jail to go fix it.

998
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:05,520
Speaker 3: They're not gonna let you do that. It's very funny,

999
00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:07,160
Speaker 3: but it's true too.

1000
00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:11,279
Speaker 4: Probability experts also say you get a good return on

1001
00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:15,600
Speaker 4: buying all of the railroads because they're pretty cheap. There's

1002
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:19,040
Speaker 4: one on each side, and once you have each, once

1003
00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:22,640
Speaker 4: you own all of them, they're two hundred dollars in rent.

1004
00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:27,759
Speaker 4: So that's not too bad, not too shabby. But to me,

1005
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:30,480
Speaker 4: a monopoly is the reason monopoly is are valuable is

1006
00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:33,560
Speaker 4: because they're in a row, whereas the railroads are spaced

1007
00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:38,160
Speaker 4: out right. And our friend, the strategist who thinks he

1008
00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:43,440
Speaker 4: invented the game, says, but what you have to remember

1009
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:46,000
Speaker 4: is none of these strategies matter because you're playing. It's

1010
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:49,400
Speaker 4: a game of people and personalities. So he said, you

1011
00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:52,800
Speaker 4: got to sit back and watch the different personalities emerge

1012
00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:58,800
Speaker 4: and then manipulate that like the cash hoarder versus the shark.

1013
00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:01,440
Speaker 4: And he's like, you're really playing against people.

1014
00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:03,200
Speaker 3: Man, that's interesting, I.

1015
00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:03,560
Speaker 4: Thought, so.

1016
00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:10,560
Speaker 3: Okay, so let's talk about another friend, an economist friend.

1017
00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:18,360
Speaker 3: His name is Ralph Antspoch. Yes, and he back in

1018
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:21,680
Speaker 3: the seventies had a game called anti Monopoly. Yeah.

1019
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:25,359
Speaker 4: He was an econ professor at San Francisco State and

1020
00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:29,640
Speaker 4: like it made his own real game. Like he didn't

1021
00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:31,880
Speaker 4: just like draw it up on paper, like, he started

1022
00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:34,440
Speaker 4: a little small business right and manufactured it.

1023
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:37,200
Speaker 3: Apparently sold about two hundred thousand copies of it, like

1024
00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:39,279
Speaker 3: right out of the gate. Yeah, could just hit a

1025
00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:42,080
Speaker 3: nerve again. It was called anti monopoly, and the whole

1026
00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:45,640
Speaker 3: point of it was to break up monopolies rather than

1027
00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:46,759
Speaker 3: build monopolies.

1028
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:49,600
Speaker 4: Yeah. At the beginning of the game is essentially the

1029
00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:53,359
Speaker 4: end of a regular game, Like everyone starts off with monopolies,

1030
00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:58,600
Speaker 4: and instead of real estate and utilities an anti monopoly,

1031
00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:02,480
Speaker 4: they had their individual businesses that have been brought under

1032
00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:04,760
Speaker 4: a single ownership. And you take the role of federal

1033
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:08,200
Speaker 4: caseworker and bring indictments against monopolized businesses.

1034
00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:08,640
Speaker 3: That's right.

1035
00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:12,760
Speaker 4: In order to return the board to a free market system.

1036
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:13,880
Speaker 3: You have to wear sensible shoes.

1037
00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:16,080
Speaker 4: It sounds awesome.

1038
00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:19,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, and he came up with this because he

1039
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:22,960
Speaker 3: was trying to apparently explain to his son what was

1040
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:27,360
Speaker 3: wrong and bad about monopolies, and I suspect capitalism to

1041
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:31,400
Speaker 3: a certain extent. And he came up with this game instead,

1042
00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:34,360
Speaker 3: Like I said, sold a substantial amount two hundred thousand

1043
00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:37,480
Speaker 3: copies of a game, especially back in the seventies that

1044
00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:40,520
Speaker 3: was pretty good as a startup. Yeah, you know, and

1045
00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:43,239
Speaker 3: it caught Parker Brothers attention enough that they sent him

1046
00:49:43,239 --> 00:49:46,480
Speaker 3: a season desist letter, took him to court, got a

1047
00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:49,520
Speaker 3: court order for him to hand over his like thirty

1048
00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:52,719
Speaker 3: seven thousand copies that he had in his warehouse, and

1049
00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:57,400
Speaker 3: they Parker Brothers went and unceremoniously buried him in a

1050
00:49:57,480 --> 00:50:03,480
Speaker 3: landfill in Minnesota. Yeah, so Ralph didn't cott into this

1051
00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:06,279
Speaker 3: very much. He didn't like that. He doesn't like to

1052
00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:08,360
Speaker 3: be pushed around. I get the impression.

1053
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:11,400
Speaker 4: No, I mean, a guy who makes anti monopoly is

1054
00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:14,640
Speaker 4: not going to cave in the courts initially.

1055
00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:15,960
Speaker 3: And he did so, like very much, at his own

1056
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:20,200
Speaker 3: financial detriment. He had a very expensive team of lawyers

1057
00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:24,960
Speaker 3: at first, and spent quite a bit of money fighting

1058
00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:29,479
Speaker 3: Parker Brothers for the right to use anti monopoly, and

1059
00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:35,000
Speaker 3: it wasn't really going anywhere, and he was losing a

1060
00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:37,160
Speaker 3: lot of money, so he started to do legwork himself,

1061
00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:42,360
Speaker 3: found a lawyer friend who worked on the Cheap Forum,

1062
00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:46,040
Speaker 3: and that's when things started taking off.

1063
00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:49,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, he basically uncovered the lie that it

1064
00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:52,520
Speaker 4: was invented by Charles Darrow. Yeah, he found out that

1065
00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:56,120
Speaker 4: the game was essentially in the public domain or should

1066
00:50:56,120 --> 00:51:00,480
Speaker 4: have been, and went all the way to the Supreme.

1067
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:03,920
Speaker 3: And yeah, he won at the Supreme Court. This e

1068
00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:06,200
Speaker 3: come professor who came up with a game called anti

1069
00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:09,560
Speaker 3: Monopoly won in the Supreme Court, won the right to

1070
00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:11,960
Speaker 3: name his game anti Monopoly.

1071
00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:17,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, he deposed the two Quakers that were

1072
00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:19,040
Speaker 4: friends of Hoskins. They were old at that point. They

1073
00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:24,280
Speaker 4: took the stand. He deposed the CEO of Parker Brothers,

1074
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:26,680
Speaker 4: and he took the stand and it had to admit

1075
00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:29,880
Speaker 4: under oath like, yeah, we did kind of steal it

1076
00:51:30,160 --> 00:51:32,879
Speaker 4: nice the idea from that lady after all.

1077
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:37,839
Speaker 3: And so, as Ralph says, the whole point to him

1078
00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:41,680
Speaker 3: was for this true story, the true origins of monopoly

1079
00:51:41,719 --> 00:51:44,919
Speaker 3: and how it came about, the whole point of it originally. Yeah,

1080
00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:49,400
Speaker 3: could still be told openly that what he said couldn't

1081
00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:51,879
Speaker 3: be bought at any price. In his opinion, that's right,

1082
00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:53,439
Speaker 3: So way to go, Ralph.

1083
00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:57,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, he wrote a book awkwardly titled The Billion Dollar Monopoly.

1084
00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:01,920
Speaker 4: In swindle Colin during a David and Goliath battle, Anti

1085
00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:07,560
Speaker 4: Monopoly uncovers the secret history of monopoly. That's a little clunky,

1086
00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:11,799
Speaker 4: a little clunky, but it's still around. In nineteen eighty four,

1087
00:52:11,840 --> 00:52:15,520
Speaker 4: there was a new version called Anti Monopoly two where

1088
00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:18,840
Speaker 4: you could actually be a monopolist or a competitor, So

1089
00:52:18,880 --> 00:52:21,759
Speaker 4: you got to choose, which I thought was interesting. And

1090
00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:26,600
Speaker 4: if you chose the competitor, you charge lower rents and

1091
00:52:26,680 --> 00:52:29,480
Speaker 4: you can improve property at anytime. But if you're a monopolist,

1092
00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:32,680
Speaker 4: you have to own at least two properties before in

1093
00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:36,320
Speaker 4: a group, before building houses, and charge a lot higher rents.

1094
00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:39,680
Speaker 4: So I think you're like playing against the two systems

1095
00:52:39,719 --> 00:52:40,600
Speaker 4: within the same game.

1096
00:52:40,800 --> 00:52:41,760
Speaker 3: That's really interesting.

1097
00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:43,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm gonna I might grab one of these and

1098
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Speaker 4: see what it's like.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe tell everybody's German. Uh, you got anything else?

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Speaker 4: I got nothing else.

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Speaker 3: I do the longest monopoly game of all time seventy days.

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Speaker 4: I played a game of risk that seemed like it

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Speaker 4: lasted that long once it may have. It didn't last

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Speaker 4: so long, but it lasted a weekend, okay, and Monopoly.

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00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:09,160
Speaker 4: I don't have the patience for that. I'll just give up.

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00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:11,600
Speaker 4: I'll take my cat fake cash and go home.

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Speaker 3: Yeah you'r horride of it. Yeah you're like, oh, just

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Speaker 3: saved all this money.

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Speaker 4: That's right, and I own the utilities.

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Speaker 3: If you want to learn more about Monopoly, including how

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Speaker 3: to play, if you don't like house rules, but you

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Speaker 3: also don't feel like looking at the official rule book,

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Speaker 3: you can just go on to house stuff Works. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: and check out the rules that is in this article.

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Speaker 3: To cite Monopoly in the search bar at housetuffworks dot

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Speaker 3: com and sin I said, search bar, it's time for

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Speaker 3: what listener mail? Yes, okay, I'm.

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Speaker 4: Gonna call this help for a fam in need.

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Speaker 3: Oh that's nice.

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Speaker 4: Hey, guys, want some help please. My wife and I

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Speaker 4: are expecting our first kid this summer, and thirteen days

1122
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Speaker 4: ago we also found out that my wife has stage

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Speaker 4: four breast cancer, so we are spending our third trimester

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Speaker 4: getting chemo.

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Speaker 3: My goodness, I know.

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00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:00,919
Speaker 4: We're gonna kick cancer in the but we have no doubt.

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00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:04,560
Speaker 4: But we're scared and overwhelmed, obviously, we're doing chemo now.

1128
00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:07,680
Speaker 4: Then we'll have the baby get more chemo than bilateral

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Speaker 4: mastectomy than radiation. We have great doctors and great fans

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Speaker 4: and family, so even in the face of this, we

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00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:16,000
Speaker 4: feel very lucky. And by the way, I got to

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00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:21,239
Speaker 4: follow up more recently that says, uh, there is no

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00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:23,960
Speaker 4: gestational diabetes and the cancer is already shrinking.

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Speaker 3: Oh it's great.

1135
00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:26,080
Speaker 4: So things are going great so far.

1136
00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:27,799
Speaker 3: Thanks for keeping us in suspense.

1137
00:54:27,880 --> 00:54:29,200
Speaker 4: I know I was going to wait till the end.

1138
00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:31,480
Speaker 4: And he asked for a couple of favors. He said,

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Speaker 4: First of all, if you want to follow and promote

1140
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Speaker 4: my tumblr to keep people updated, it is h T

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Speaker 4: T P colon slash slash gala freakidiki g A L

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Speaker 4: l I f R e e k y d e

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Speaker 4: e k y dot tumblr dot com. Okay, he says,

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Speaker 4: we're huge nerds and doctor who fans.

1145
00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:54,480
Speaker 3: So that was lost on me some doctor who referenced

1146
00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:56,360
Speaker 3: I guess apparently, so does that have to do with

1147
00:54:56,400 --> 00:54:57,000
Speaker 3: the phone booth?

1148
00:54:57,040 --> 00:55:02,120
Speaker 4: Maybe that's the only thing you know about doctor here. Secondly,

1149
00:55:02,160 --> 00:55:04,680
Speaker 4: I'm biking one hundred and fifty miles to raise money

1150
00:55:05,120 --> 00:55:07,239
Speaker 4: and could you plug that and you can go to

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00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:13,400
Speaker 4: goo dot gl slash two w j z x Q.

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00:55:14,120 --> 00:55:16,560
Speaker 3: These people don't like normal words. Well that's one of

1153
00:55:16,600 --> 00:55:20,040
Speaker 3: those shortened URLs. Oh, I see, it's a goo gotcha.

1154
00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:22,600
Speaker 4: And then third, how about a shout out? I think

1155
00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:24,919
Speaker 4: that's what we're doing here. My wife is a little shy,

1156
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:26,640
Speaker 4: so just to use her nickname, the mayor.

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00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:32,719
Speaker 3: That's hilarious. She wears a sash during chemo and childbirth.

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00:55:32,840 --> 00:55:34,760
Speaker 4: I guess, so, I mean I call Emily the boss,

1159
00:55:34,760 --> 00:55:37,680
Speaker 4: So I guess it's the mayor. Yeah, but the.

1160
00:55:37,560 --> 00:55:40,919
Speaker 3: Mayor is like the boss of several bosses. I would guess. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: We used to call my friend Justin who you know,

1162
00:55:42,640 --> 00:55:46,239
Speaker 4: the Mayor of Atlanta, because everywhere you went, somebody knew him.

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00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:47,360
Speaker 3: He's a sociable fella.

1164
00:55:47,480 --> 00:55:49,240
Speaker 4: But now we just call him the manager of Atlanta

1165
00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:52,200
Speaker 4: because everywhere you go he has some improvement to that place.

1166
00:55:52,360 --> 00:55:54,200
Speaker 4: Oh okay, like the lighting's not quite right, or the

1167
00:55:54,200 --> 00:55:57,200
Speaker 4: door should be over there, the kitchen is not located

1168
00:55:57,239 --> 00:56:01,640
Speaker 4: properly those Brits. Yeah. And then fourth, my wife works

1169
00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:05,200
Speaker 4: in public policy, specifically helping women and families get themselves

1170
00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:08,239
Speaker 4: out of poverty and advocating for low income workers. So

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Speaker 4: there you have it. An awesome an incredible woman who

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00:56:10,600 --> 00:56:13,920
Speaker 4: dedicates her considerable talents helping others, is pregnant and has

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Speaker 4: breast cancer.

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Speaker 3: Kind of hard to say, no, right, I'm not above

1175
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Speaker 3: guilt tripping.

1176
00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:23,399
Speaker 4: So Bob from Swethmore, Pennsylvania, there you go. People should

1177
00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:25,479
Speaker 4: go and check out that stuff and support your bike ride.

1178
00:56:25,480 --> 00:56:28,160
Speaker 4: And I hope things have continued to progress well for

1179
00:56:28,200 --> 00:56:29,560
Speaker 4: your wife and child.

1180
00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:33,360
Speaker 3: And keep us updated. Yeah, and you keep me updated

1181
00:56:33,880 --> 00:56:36,960
Speaker 3: at the very least. If not everybody listening, I will. Okay,

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00:56:37,840 --> 00:56:40,440
Speaker 3: thanks a lot, Bob and the mayor. Good luck to

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00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:43,960
Speaker 3: you both. And let's see if you want to get

1184
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Speaker 3: in touch with us, whether you're a mayor a provincial

1185
00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:50,960
Speaker 3: governor who knows. Yeah, you can get in touch with

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Speaker 3: us on Twitter at SYSK podcast. You can join us

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1188
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