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Speaker 1: Ron An Anian. Did it used to be that you

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Speaker 1: you think I ready today me the car doctor. They're

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Speaker 1: saying when it shut When when they did it? It's

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Speaker 1: just they think the engine just shuts off while you're

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Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty five thousand. Could we have a

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Speaker 1: bad ignition switch? Welcome to the radio home of ron

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Speaker 1: and Anian, the Car Doctor. Since nineteen ninety one. This

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Speaker 1: is where car owners the world overturned to for their

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Speaker 1: definitive opinion on automotive repair. If your mechanics giving you

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Speaker 1: a busy signal, pick up the phone and call in

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Speaker 1: the garage door just how open? But I am here

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Speaker 1: to take your call at eight five five five six

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Speaker 1: and now running heyo, and we get to do another

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Speaker 1: hour of auto repair up here on radio and defy

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Speaker 1: the odds so somebody when said that to me, they said,

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Speaker 1: let's go to John and Mississippi. Let's kick the doors

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Speaker 1: open early ninety six, Christ in New York or some

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Speaker 1: questions on air conditioning. John, Welcome to the car doctor, sir,

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Speaker 1: how can I help? All right? Thanks for taking my call.

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Speaker 1: I'm having problems with the electronic air conditioning control. Um uh.

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Speaker 1: I thought that possibly it was because the ignition switch

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Speaker 1: was bad. Because my act my ABS light was on

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Speaker 1: as well, so I changed the ignition switch, but that

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Speaker 1: didn't seem to help anything. The control is completely dead.

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Speaker 1: There's no display, nothing, you push the buttons, there's no sound,

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Speaker 1: no response of any kind. M can you suggest repair

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Speaker 1: rebuild it for the module? I've seen several online, but

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Speaker 1: dormant Products dot com or yeah, dormant products dot com

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Speaker 1: would just also get a wiring diagram. You're gonna have,

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Speaker 1: I believe, two powers in a ground going into that

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Speaker 1: what I did was there is two plugs on the back.

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Speaker 1: so I figured that's the signal going out. The other

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Speaker 1: voltmeter on those on those on the on the plug,

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Speaker 1: and I got eleven point three eight volts. Yeah, that's enough.

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Speaker 1: bet you that was the white wire. I don't remember,

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Speaker 1: it's got it connects up to two big copper prongs

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Speaker 1: You've already had that experience. How about this worst case scenario.

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Speaker 1: This is all very early Chrysler can controlled stuff. You

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Speaker 1: So if you're so inclined, it sounds like you're into

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Speaker 1: rebuilder that you No, I would go through. I would

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Speaker 1: But Model Electronics was related Model like Model Model Electronics, right.

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Speaker 1: problem is Chrysler's changed from Mercedes to you know, multiple

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Speaker 1: we diagnosed it. When I explained it to the guy,

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Speaker 1: I said, YEA, you're right, it's a bad booster. M

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Speaker 1: A hydroboost looks like just a traditional booster. Okay, then

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Speaker 1: just did the radiator myself last week. It took me

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Speaker 1: me know if you need anything else. Five five six

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Speaker 1: now back to Rod. Hey, let's get over to Charlie

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Speaker 1: Chevy pick him up truck. Charlie. Welcome to the car doctor, sir,

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Speaker 1: How can I help? Thank you? Good afternoon round you're well.

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Speaker 1: I'm at the crossroads with this truck that I've been

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Speaker 1: maintaining to use just about daily at a fresh transmission

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Speaker 1: An ice highly four or fifty cfm carburetor on a

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Speaker 1: twenty two years, the head gaskets have blown on it.

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Speaker 1: put electric fans on it, or get a different motor.

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Speaker 1: The motor is not an eighty six motor to that truck.

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Speaker 1: It's a center valve cover bolt motor which is newer

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Speaker 1: It doesn't overheat really all at wance. It just made

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Speaker 1: something needs to be machined again. When when they do

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Speaker 1: Or is it just heads off, head gaskets on and

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Speaker 1: The second time, the heads went to a machine shop. UM,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'd be curious as any is anybody checking

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Speaker 1: have done? And you won't know that until you take

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Speaker 1: I bought it in twenty twenty, right, man, Right? And

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Speaker 1: parts for this motor, they're different for an eighty six

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Speaker 1: you're going through, you're going through them every five thousand miles,

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Speaker 1: this will work. We've gone through it. We know there's

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Speaker 1: no issues there. Uh. You know, we know the water

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Speaker 1: if you have to change something to coincide with correct

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Speaker 1: There's there's ways to make changes to make that work. Um,

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Speaker 1: I think I've got a heavy duty water pump that's

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Speaker 1: I had them ever since it was remanned New Okay Incorporated.

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Speaker 1: And originally this water pump turned with a serpentine belt, yes,

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Speaker 1: pull the backplate off and their counter rotating. Okay, so

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Speaker 1: the heavy duty water pump for an eighty six. Okay,

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Speaker 1: so you're running an eighty six water pump in this

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Speaker 1: take this pause, Charlie. We'll come back to this. I'm

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Speaker 1: What else did they change? Why did they change the

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Speaker 1: All right? My point becomes, you know what is it missing? Still?

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Speaker 1: Are the cylinder heads the same? Why did they change

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Speaker 1: So I don't think just putting a heavy duty cooling

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Speaker 1: Well they do, right if you have do you have

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Speaker 1: think through eighty seven they had a side screws on

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Speaker 1: at least I want to research and identify exactly which

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Speaker 1: engine do you have? All right, do you have the

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Speaker 1: a reverse flow. Why can't we put pulleys for an

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Speaker 1: as God intended it, and that takes that out off

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Speaker 1: early on, I've had one card deal to say that

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Speaker 1: this conversation started fifteen minutes ago, right right, So you

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's happening anytime soon. Take your take

427
00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:09,200
Speaker 1: your losses, move on. If there's too much unknown and

428
00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:11,760
Speaker 1: too much that you're gonna have to deal with regarding

429
00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:14,159
Speaker 1: this engine, then it's time for it to go unless

430
00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:16,040
Speaker 1: you want to do the time to take the research

431
00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:19,560
Speaker 1: and identify what it is and what correct components you

432
00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:21,119
Speaker 1: need or you're going to be back here doing this

433
00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:27,480
Speaker 1: again in thirty thousand miles or sooner. You're you're you're listen.

434
00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:30,040
Speaker 1: I'm not picking on you. I admire your persistence, but

435
00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:33,560
Speaker 1: you're overthinking it. All right, Let's get to the root

436
00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:35,919
Speaker 1: cause of it. What's what's what? What engine is it?

437
00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:38,760
Speaker 1: What waterpump does it take? What head gaskets does this

438
00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:41,159
Speaker 1: actually take? What head gaskets are you putting on it?

439
00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:43,320
Speaker 1: Eighty six or eighty eight or are they all the same?

440
00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:46,879
Speaker 1: I have a shot do it last time? So they

441
00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:49,600
Speaker 1: had no information on that, right, But you did it

442
00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:51,960
Speaker 1: yourself when you when you put head gaskets on it?

443
00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:55,359
Speaker 1: What head guess? Because did you put on whatever the

444
00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:58,000
Speaker 1: local machine shop gave me? And then they didn't. They

445
00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:00,200
Speaker 1: looked very thin. They didn't look how to put it all.

446
00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:03,480
Speaker 1: But they lasted for a pretty long while. I don't

447
00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:05,720
Speaker 1: care how thick they are. They have the correct holes

448
00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:08,000
Speaker 1: in them so that they have the correct sized passages,

449
00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:11,920
Speaker 1: all right, GM is going to have different orifices, different

450
00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:14,879
Speaker 1: sized patches. Is for cooling to flow through. You know,

451
00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:18,040
Speaker 1: this is about adequate cooling flow for making the If

452
00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:22,480
Speaker 1: we're making the assumption that you've got inadequate cooling flow,

453
00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:26,639
Speaker 1: so you know, you could have hot spots contributing to this.

454
00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:31,479
Speaker 1: You could have a physical a warped deck on the block.

455
00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:34,520
Speaker 1: That's that's creating a problem, though you would think that

456
00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:36,600
Speaker 1: would show up on the cylinder head side as well.

457
00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:40,560
Speaker 1: But there's just so much unknown here. You know, there's

458
00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:43,639
Speaker 1: there's we've got we've got an incorrect flow, or we

459
00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:46,359
Speaker 1: think we don't know we've got an incorrect rotation water

460
00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:48,600
Speaker 1: pump being used now the right way, or we've got

461
00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:51,400
Speaker 1: the right water pump with the right engine. There's too

462
00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:53,560
Speaker 1: many unknowns here, Charlie, you got to go back and

463
00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:55,760
Speaker 1: start from square one. I know you want to hang

464
00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:57,760
Speaker 1: on to this. I know you don't want to, you know,

465
00:24:57,920 --> 00:24:59,840
Speaker 1: forgive or give up on all the money you've spent.

466
00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:04,080
Speaker 1: But you know you're just overthinking it. I can't stress

467
00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:06,640
Speaker 1: this enough. You know you've started to build the house.

468
00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:09,600
Speaker 1: The foundation's bad, but you keep on adding floors. So

469
00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:12,439
Speaker 1: it's time to go back to square one and start

470
00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:16,000
Speaker 1: with is the engine right? Is the engine mechanically sound?

471
00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:18,600
Speaker 1: Will the engine support what you wanted to do? And

472
00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:21,240
Speaker 1: then put the correct water pump on or a matching

473
00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:24,800
Speaker 1: water pump that will correspond and work. A machine shop

474
00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:27,800
Speaker 1: will know that that's their job. But I'd be curious

475
00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:30,399
Speaker 1: just what water pump you have to match? What engine

476
00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:32,400
Speaker 1: block you have. I'm going to leave it there because

477
00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:33,720
Speaker 1: I don't want to go on. We could go on

478
00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:35,879
Speaker 1: the rest of the show. For that. Good luck to you.

479
00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:37,920
Speaker 1: Let me know what happens, because I am curious. I'm

480
00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:39,600
Speaker 1: trying to help you. I'm just trying to get you

481
00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:43,360
Speaker 1: to understand that you've got too many variables and you're

482
00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:45,439
Speaker 1: just adding parts to it, mixing it up, making it

483
00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:48,199
Speaker 1: worse all along. I'm curious for the results. Let me know.

484
00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:51,480
Speaker 1: Five zero nine zero zero. The car doctors coming back

485
00:25:51,600 --> 00:26:01,920
Speaker 1: right after this. Let's get over to Tom in Massachusetts.

486
00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:04,040
Speaker 1: Welcome back, Hey Tom, How are you running any at

487
00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:08,119
Speaker 1: your service? Hey Ron, A long time listen, A great show.

488
00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:10,359
Speaker 1: Thank you sir. What can I do for you? I

489
00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:12,960
Speaker 1: just had a quick question. I just bought a new Subaru.

490
00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:18,399
Speaker 1: It's all wheel drive. Obviously I bought the tiring wheel

491
00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:21,560
Speaker 1: package or whatever. You know, there's a blowout or whatever.

492
00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:26,080
Speaker 1: I remember reading years ago. You're supposed to replace all

493
00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:29,280
Speaker 1: four tires, you know, if they have a certain mileage

494
00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:34,040
Speaker 1: on him. Ye, at the same time makes it makes

495
00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:36,080
Speaker 1: a good point. Yeah, you wonder what happens if in

496
00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:38,960
Speaker 1: thirty thousand miles you need one tire, are they gonna

497
00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:42,960
Speaker 1: put one on it? Or four? Yeah? Yeah, that's what

498
00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:46,440
Speaker 1: I was wondering. Get find the answer anywhere. Yeah, it

499
00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:48,439
Speaker 1: kind it kind of defies what they've been telling us

500
00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:50,320
Speaker 1: all these years, right, and Subaru was one of the

501
00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:53,040
Speaker 1: main ones that always stood up and said you absolutely

502
00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:57,600
Speaker 1: positively have to do for Yeah. Yeah, I guess it's

503
00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:00,320
Speaker 1: something to do with the computer the rotation. Well, it

504
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:02,959
Speaker 1: has to do with you know, as cars getting more

505
00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:07,400
Speaker 1: evolved involved and as they evolve, you know, especially Subaru,

506
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:11,800
Speaker 1: they're all wheel drive mechanism. We're going back twelve years ago,

507
00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:14,320
Speaker 1: twelve year old technology, and I don't think it's changed

508
00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:20,480
Speaker 1: that the power takeoff unit, the center transfer case was

509
00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:24,320
Speaker 1: affected by diameter of the tires. Different diameters could cause

510
00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:28,160
Speaker 1: binding chatter. Now, maybe they've added software, maybe they've modified

511
00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:30,280
Speaker 1: things so that they don't have to, But on an

512
00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:33,760
Speaker 1: older subru You're absolutely right, the problem would be that

513
00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:36,520
Speaker 1: changing one could cause a chatter or a drive line

514
00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:39,520
Speaker 1: vibration or physical damage to the unit over time and

515
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:42,160
Speaker 1: cause it to fail. So I think it's a phone

516
00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:45,000
Speaker 1: called the SUPERU dealer and ask them, you know, where's

517
00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:48,480
Speaker 1: where and what is the mileage limit? Before? You can't

518
00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:51,119
Speaker 1: just change one, You've got to change all four, so

519
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:53,399
Speaker 1: at least you know what you're dealing with. You know,

520
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:58,160
Speaker 1: My guess is tires for light right, Well, I'm sorry

521
00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:02,359
Speaker 1: I say that again. They say tires for life. I

522
00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:05,119
Speaker 1: don't know whose life they're talking about, you know, for

523
00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:06,560
Speaker 1: the life of the car. Some of the words. You

524
00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:08,320
Speaker 1: paid for a tire and wheel package and they're going

525
00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:12,919
Speaker 1: to replace tires forever based on yeah, yeah, and batteries.

526
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:16,160
Speaker 1: But you have to use the rip off service schedule

527
00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:19,640
Speaker 1: and all that, right, right, So I'm sure they get

528
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:22,600
Speaker 1: it back in the end. But well, yeah, you know

529
00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:24,400
Speaker 1: one of the things. And we're going to talk about

530
00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:27,440
Speaker 1: that in an upcoming show talking about maintaining a car.

531
00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:30,320
Speaker 1: A lot of not a lot. I shouldn't say it

532
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:32,440
Speaker 1: like that. Repair shops to me are all the same.

533
00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:36,000
Speaker 1: Some say subarus, some say independent auto repair. They're all

534
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:38,400
Speaker 1: the same. They're out there to make a living. But

535
00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:42,640
Speaker 1: some of them will publish their own maintenance guide and

536
00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:45,520
Speaker 1: I see car manufacturers do that quite often, so it'll

537
00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:49,040
Speaker 1: say main Street Subaru, for example, and it'll look like

538
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:53,400
Speaker 1: it's an official Subaru document, but it's not. It's something

539
00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:57,760
Speaker 1: that particular dealer had printed up just for them. And

540
00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:00,719
Speaker 1: sometimes there's great information in there, you know, Listen, I

541
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:06,680
Speaker 1: think the subrew dealer up in Massachusetts is likely to

542
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:10,600
Speaker 1: have a better handle on servicing a Subaru for winter

543
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:14,160
Speaker 1: than the subrew dealer in Florida, so he might have

544
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:16,840
Speaker 1: it there. He might have a different service maintenance schedule.

545
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:19,000
Speaker 1: The guy in mass versus the guy in Florida versus

546
00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:22,200
Speaker 1: the guy in Arizona versus the guy You get it right.

547
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:26,480
Speaker 1: But the problem I have is when they all generically

548
00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:29,120
Speaker 1: say the same thing that every vehicle needs all this,

549
00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:33,560
Speaker 1: every time, every mile is regardless, and it goes completely

550
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:37,040
Speaker 1: against what the manufacturer says. The safest place to get

551
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:40,200
Speaker 1: a maintenance information just for your information, everybody else's is

552
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:42,840
Speaker 1: looking the owner's manual, the owner's manual, and you've got

553
00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:46,600
Speaker 1: to be careful because I've seen them insert dealer printed

554
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:49,920
Speaker 1: dealer specific maintenance guides in there as well, So you

555
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:52,320
Speaker 1: want to know that it came from the manufacturer. If

556
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 1: you find a dealer printed and you can tell if

557
00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:56,240
Speaker 1: you look close enough at it, and you can ask

558
00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:59,120
Speaker 1: the question too, is this dealer recommended or is this

559
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:02,640
Speaker 1: manufacturer recommended? All right, you can ask that if your

560
00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:05,520
Speaker 1: service writer as well. But you know, you want to

561
00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:07,479
Speaker 1: look at it and say, hey, you know, is this

562
00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:11,080
Speaker 1: absolutely necessary regarding the tires. I think that's a great question.

563
00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:13,200
Speaker 1: I never thought of that. I think that's a question

564
00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:16,400
Speaker 1: that has to be passed. Yeah, let us Well, you're

565
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:18,040
Speaker 1: gonna let everybody know because we're gonna put you back

566
00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:19,480
Speaker 1: on the air. We're gonna you're gonna be the reporter

567
00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:22,400
Speaker 1: for this. Uh, you know, because it's it's it's it's

568
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:25,680
Speaker 1: a valid concern. Uh, you know what's right, what's wrong?

569
00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:29,200
Speaker 1: So all right, sir, I wouldn't be surprised if they

570
00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:32,240
Speaker 1: make you buy the other three. You know, well they could,

571
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:36,960
Speaker 1: but you know again, um, yeah, you give him a call,

572
00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:40,440
Speaker 1: see if you can get it into writing too. All right, Tom, Yeah,

573
00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:42,800
Speaker 1: I will. All right, let us know you're very welcome.

574
00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:45,400
Speaker 1: Be well, let's let's pull over, take a pause, and

575
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:47,440
Speaker 1: when we come back, we'll we'll finish up with our

576
00:30:47,520 --> 00:31:02,560
Speaker 1: last call. I'm Ronaninian. Don't go away. Welcome back, Rondini

577
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:04,280
Speaker 1: and at your service real quick. I just want to

578
00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:06,560
Speaker 1: remind everybody the n g K, the n K nt

579
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:10,400
Speaker 1: K Shop Squad is very active right now and m

580
00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:12,800
Speaker 1: n g K nt K Shop Squad there. If you're

581
00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:16,520
Speaker 1: an independent repair shop, if you're looking for more information, servicing,

582
00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:19,560
Speaker 1: technical resources and so forth, just get out there. Just

583
00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:22,400
Speaker 1: Google search n g K nt K Shop Squad and

584
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:24,800
Speaker 1: go sign up. I've been reading it lately and they're

585
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:27,640
Speaker 1: just keeping atting more and more information. It's great stuff.

586
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:29,520
Speaker 1: It's good reading, good way to fall asleep at night,

587
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:31,840
Speaker 1: or well I just say it's boring, but I'm just saying,

588
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:33,320
Speaker 1: you know, if you've got nothing else to do, when

589
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 1: you're looking for some leisure reading, the shop Squad makes it,

590
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:39,720
Speaker 1: makes it happen. So let's get over to Steve in

591
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:43,040
Speaker 1: Louisiana nine gmc uk on Steve, what's going on with

592
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:46,760
Speaker 1: this truck? How was your last call of last time?

593
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:55,520
Speaker 1: Vehicle left me in a state? There's distributed cap had

594
00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:58,440
Speaker 1: made some kind of sharp inside and just never wanted

595
00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:02,960
Speaker 1: to crank. And you told me that electricity finds the

596
00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:06,840
Speaker 1: least resistant or whatever, But what would you do for

597
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:09,520
Speaker 1: that problem? Not to happen again. Why is that? Is

598
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:13,120
Speaker 1: that what happened that it had a bad it punched

599
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:16,480
Speaker 1: the rotor and punched the cap. Well, he showed me

600
00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 1: inside the distributed cap that had a black deal where

601
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:25,520
Speaker 1: it it didn't make no holder, just like a black marking, right,

602
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:31,160
Speaker 1: carbon tracking. Well, so, so so there's there's there's electrical resistance,

603
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:36,360
Speaker 1: all right. You have a garden hose on the house, Steve, Yeah, okay, Um,

604
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:38,360
Speaker 1: you ever turned the hose on full blast and stick

605
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:42,640
Speaker 1: your hand over the end and watch the host swell up, right, okay?

606
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:45,239
Speaker 1: And eventually what happens if in theory, if we held it,

607
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:46,960
Speaker 1: if we held it, they're long enough, right, it blows

608
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:49,440
Speaker 1: out somewhere else, right, it finds the next weakest link.

609
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:55,680
Speaker 1: So if you had a spark plug that had high resistance, okay,

610
00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 1: spark plug that couldn't fire properly, or if you had

611
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:02,800
Speaker 1: a spark plug wire that had high resistance or a

612
00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:05,840
Speaker 1: poor connection, it's like the garden hose, right, it's going

613
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:08,480
Speaker 1: to build up pressure and it's going to back up

614
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:10,560
Speaker 1: and go up the cap. Now. The other thing that

615
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:12,560
Speaker 1: the other thing that you have to be aware of

616
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:15,640
Speaker 1: is there's there's two other factors here. Um One is

617
00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:18,920
Speaker 1: it's got to be a good quality distributor cap and rotor.

618
00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:21,120
Speaker 1: Not all caps and rotors, not all parts are made

619
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:24,120
Speaker 1: the same, all right, Very important, all right. And there's

620
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:26,600
Speaker 1: a lot of cheap junk in the marketplace today, all right.

621
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:31,040
Speaker 1: So you've got another I use most of the time. Okay.

622
00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:34,000
Speaker 1: And is it their house brand or is it a specific? Uh?

623
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:37,240
Speaker 1: Is it a specific? I always tell them what the

624
00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:41,640
Speaker 1: best Okay. I guess they got right. So, and that's

625
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:45,200
Speaker 1: important Number one and number two. Um, Like I said,

626
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:47,000
Speaker 1: if you were to take a mirror and shine it

627
00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:50,680
Speaker 1: underneath that distributor cap or I'm sorry, under the distributor,

628
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:53,760
Speaker 1: you should see there should be two little vents. There

629
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:56,520
Speaker 1: was always one or two vents, all right, because that's

630
00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:59,440
Speaker 1: how air gets in and out. Because they're trying to

631
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:03,640
Speaker 1: prevent um a gassing effect. Believe it or not, constant

632
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:06,680
Speaker 1: the effects of high energy ignition on a GM product.

633
00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:09,480
Speaker 1: And I guess other vehicles too, but GM specifically has

634
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:12,600
Speaker 1: the problem. It's like welding inside the distributor cap and

635
00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:14,640
Speaker 1: it will cause a gassing and it will it will

636
00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:17,479
Speaker 1: actually cause corrosion to build up faster inside the cap

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Speaker 1: than normal. So those two little ventor that those that

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Speaker 1: one little vent screen at the bottom should be clear.

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Speaker 1: What happens is in a lot of vehicles as they

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Speaker 1: get older, and this is obviously twenty something, twenty three

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Speaker 1: years old, spiders will get in there and will build

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Speaker 1: a spider web. Well, the cap right, but I'm talking

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Speaker 1: about a vent screen at the bottom of the bottom

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Speaker 1: that you'll see with him, he changed the whole distributor too. Okay,

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Speaker 1: Well now he did, you're saying, well, not lately, no, Okay,

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Speaker 1: before it happened, and he didn't charge me nothing to

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Speaker 1: fix it to get it running, but he had changed it,

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Speaker 1: put me another distributor and sugar to cap. But the

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Speaker 1: only thing I didn't change with my wires and sport blokes,

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Speaker 1: which I might have him to do. Okay, And then

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Speaker 1: chances are your fine. As long as he's using good stuff,

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Speaker 1: you should be in good shapes to me, all right, sir,

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Speaker 1: I gotta go. I'm up against the clock, so let

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Speaker 1: me let me bow out gracefully. Stevie. I'm glad you're

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Speaker 1: getting it solved, and I appreciate the phone call. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: and what I was trying to say before I just

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Speaker 1: want to finish that thought. Is there is a vent

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Speaker 1: screen down at the bottom of the distributor in other

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Speaker 1: situations for anybody else out there, and make sure that

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Speaker 1: vent screen is clear if it's there. I've seen spiders

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Speaker 1: get in there and build a spider web and it

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00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:38,759
Speaker 1: will prevent the air from circulating, and it creates the

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Speaker 1: gasing problem inside the cap as we called it back

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Speaker 1: in the day, and you'll have arcing and all sorts

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Speaker 1: of carbon track issues until the next time I'm run

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Speaker 1: nading in the car doctor reminding each and every one

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Speaker 1: of you. Good mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless. See you