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Speaker 1: It is Wednesday. This simple fit. This is Jack Bars

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Speaker 1: Happy Hour. Jack Wars Happy Hour, always brought you by

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Speaker 1: the Fields on the Group and now a guy who's

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Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hour presented by the Fields Auto Group on

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Speaker 1: this Wednesday. JP Shatterick with you. Busy show to get

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Speaker 1: to today. Here's what's coming up. VP of Sales and

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Speaker 1: Service Chad Johnson standing by. He'll be with us in

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Speaker 1: just a few minutes. Mike Florio from Pro Football Talk.

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Speaker 1: We'll get the latest from around the National Football League

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Speaker 1: and his take and what has happened to the Jaguars

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Speaker 1: this season. We'll get to the Titans beat with Paul Karharsky.

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Speaker 1: He used to be a beat writer for the Tennessee

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Speaker 1: website and with a radio station in Nashville. We'll hear

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Speaker 1: from Paul coming up on the Tennessee Titans. And Alex

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Speaker 1: mar Vaz from Sirious XM Radio are good. Buddy joins

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Speaker 1: us a little bit later as well. Busy day to day.

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Speaker 1: The Jags are actually on an airplane right now, headed

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Speaker 1: to Nashville, Tennessee. The injury report has been released though

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Speaker 1: by the Tennessee Titans for this Jaguars Titans match up

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Speaker 1: on Thursday, including two Jaguars ruled out. D J. Shark Jr.

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Speaker 1: With the quadriceps issue out of the game, Abrey Jones

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Speaker 1: with the shin brewis he is out. Couple of players

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Speaker 1: questionable Cody Davis and Josh Walker, and then the guys

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Speaker 1: for the game, including Klais Campbell, including the Nashville area

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Speaker 1: should be available for this game as well, So good

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Speaker 1: news actually in the injury department. The Jacks had walked

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Speaker 1: throughs on Monday and Tuesday, another one today. The Monday

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Speaker 1: and Tuesday workouts were at night. It's a banged up

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Speaker 1: football team, of course, on a short week. Doug Marone

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Speaker 1: earlier this week was asked about the guys who stepped

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Speaker 1: into those injured roles, especially on the offensive line, and

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Speaker 1: how much of a challenge that has been up front.

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Speaker 1: I think the guys that have been I've been playing,

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Speaker 1: as far as the players that have been going in

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Speaker 1: you know, going in there, they're so focused on, you know,

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Speaker 1: working hard and trying to do the right thing, um

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Speaker 1: you know, and just getting ready for play and excited

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Speaker 1: about the opportunity because obviously a lot of a lot

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Speaker 1: have this opportunity. So it's an opportunity for them to show,

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Speaker 1: And you know, it's a it's a challenge, you know,

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Speaker 1: it's it's a big challenge this week. I mean, Tennessee's

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Speaker 1: you know, has an excellent defense. UM front seven's outstanding,

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Speaker 1: big strong, powerful winebackers, downhill hit secondary play as well.

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Speaker 1: You know, we're gonna have to do a good job

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Speaker 1: up front. It would be a great challenge for those guys.

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Speaker 1: But on the old line, you have a lot of

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Speaker 1: familiar names on that defense whine we'll get to those

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Speaker 1: coming up with Paul Kaharsky of the Titans beat. But

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Speaker 1: here you have a look at what has happened on

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Speaker 1: the offensive line this year for the Jaguars. You know,

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Speaker 1: what's happened at left tackle or on the fourth left

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Speaker 1: tackle the season this year. Partnell was out of the

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Speaker 1: this week. That's a good news. But it has been

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Speaker 1: a mass unit upfront for this Jaguars football team in eighteen.

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Speaker 1: Quarterback Cody Kessler getting a second start with the Jaguars

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Speaker 1: on Thursday night, the tenth in his career. He's getting

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Speaker 1: a new weapon in the backfield with him in running

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Speaker 1: back Leonard Fournette this week, in my opinion, one of

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Speaker 1: gonna be exciting. Obviously don't play with Lenard yet, um,

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Speaker 1: You know what happened in Buffalo for the Leonard Fournette.

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Speaker 1: win on a Thursday night on the road, a place

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Speaker 1: they have not won on the road since. The Rolling

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Speaker 1: in April is part of the No Filter US Tour

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Speaker 1: twenty nineteen. The show scheduled for April twenty four, that's

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Speaker 1: a Wednesday, the night before the first round of the

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Speaker 1: NFL Draft. Tickets on sale Friday, November that's they're already

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Speaker 1: on sale. They're selling very well and for more information

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Speaker 1: visit Rolling Stones dot com or ticket Master. And we're

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Speaker 1: joining out by Jaguars VP of Sales and Service and

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Speaker 1: the Chief Content Officer as well, Chad Johnson. Great to

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Speaker 1: see you man, Thanks, great to be here. It's right now,

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Speaker 1: It is right and you know we just mentioned the

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Speaker 1: with Daily's Place and all the hopefully development around the

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Speaker 1: not much of a bigger stadium show than the Rolling Stones,

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Speaker 1: the greatest rock and roll band in the world. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, if you look at who were up against

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Speaker 1: this is really the next step in a journey that

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Speaker 1: bring live entertainment to downtown, specifically music content. Daily's Place

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Speaker 1: as leaders in the music space. And that next step

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Speaker 1: And then it doesn't get any bigger than the Rolling Stones.

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Speaker 1: Events perspective. Well, number one was the second largest show

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Speaker 1: Jacksonville well by having a full house forty four thousand

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Speaker 1: And then here we are book in the next, uh,

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Speaker 1: next big act in that journey. Yeah, the Rolling Stones

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Speaker 1: coming up in April. Of course, Ticketmaster tickets around sale. Now,

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Speaker 1: the last time The Stones were in Jacksonville was I

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Speaker 1: mean that that don't they don't come around here every day?

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Speaker 1: How did you guys land the Stone, All right, well

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Speaker 1: thirty years ago, you're right. And the initial conversation when

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Speaker 1: Our line is give us a puncher's chance. And we

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Speaker 1: and we said, listen, there's solutions. Whatever challenge you have,

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Speaker 1: whatever challenge you think Jacksonville brings the table, let us

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Speaker 1: take that challenge on. Let's take the risk away from you.

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Speaker 1: Let's let us go out there and execute on this.

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Speaker 1: So we put a very aggressive offer in front of

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Speaker 1: And they came back and said, you know, we we

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Speaker 1: weren't interested in Jacksonville at all, but what you put

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Speaker 1: And about two weeks later we got a call and said,

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Speaker 1: It looks good? Was the answer there. That's pretty impressive,

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Speaker 1: it really is. But that's the thing that you invest

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Speaker 1: the regular Stones tour. You guys had to make the

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Speaker 1: in promotion, like you said, the Jaguars have the big

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Speaker 1: hand in that, right. Yeah, Yeah, there's there's a lot

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Speaker 1: important to us JP was when you look at where

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Speaker 1: we're gonna be a regional market. I've already looked at

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Speaker 1: why we would take that risk, because we know more

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Speaker 1: fans that come into the stadium potentially become Jaguar fans,

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Speaker 1: There's so many different areas to enjoy a concert here. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we're we're, as we know, one of the best fan

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Speaker 1: music industry, right, and it's it's about the fans and

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Speaker 1: it's about the artists. And if our fans and artists

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Speaker 1: come to this building and walk away happy financially, everything

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Speaker 1: the country calling us going, how the heck did you

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Speaker 1: guys get the Rolling Stones? We tried, we couldn't. What

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Speaker 1: tell you. Tune in for the next one, that's right,

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Speaker 1: you come seeing it in person if you want tickets

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Speaker 1: on sale? Now, how have sales gone the first week

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Speaker 1: We knew that we'd have to really work this for

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Speaker 1: I think over the next two weeks as we really

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Speaker 1: It gets nuts to the wayside. But I could see

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Speaker 1: something like that happening with Portals, where a team that

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Speaker 1: to room and develop in the draft. The problem, of

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Speaker 1: course for the Jags is that they're stuck with sixteen

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Speaker 1: million against the calf no matter what happens with him

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Speaker 1: what makes the decision so glaring. I remember when I

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Speaker 1: even though there were so many other guys out there

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Speaker 1: the Jaguars could have explored, from Kirk Cousins, the case

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Speaker 1: a pick at twenty nine, even with Blake Portals there

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Speaker 1: for the next three years. Be because you've got Lamar

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Speaker 1: Jackson and you can groom him quietly. You can use

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Speaker 1: him the way that the Ravens used him, and if

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Speaker 1: Mortal doesn't work out, you've got a guy that you

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Speaker 1: weren't ready to pull the trigger on him, and there's

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Speaker 1: gonna be a lot of regret about how that was handled.

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Speaker 1: And now this year, with fewer quarterbacks available in free

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Speaker 1: agency in the draft, it's you know, it's gonna be

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Speaker 1: uh time to move on. And I think it makes

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Speaker 1: it even more compelling for them to find a younger,

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Speaker 1: cheaper guy through the draft because of that money is

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Speaker 1: gonna get allocated to Blake Bortles. Moving forward, Mike, last

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Speaker 1: Let's touch around the NFL, the domestic violence issues popping

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Speaker 1: up the last couple of weeks. Ruben Foster arrested the

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Speaker 1: all what all happened there. Of course, Kareem hunting video

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Speaker 1: That is a busy week from anyone's standards. Let's start

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Speaker 1: off with the Foster thing and and the Redskins claiming him.

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Speaker 1: Obviously there was a huge uproar about that. What's your view, Well,

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Speaker 1: I think what Washington thought they could do is called

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Speaker 1: this Don Foster, who's not going to play this year,

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Speaker 1: a hard time for this. It's not like he's going

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Speaker 1: to be on the field. We know he's not going

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Speaker 1: to be on the field, will pay him not to play,

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Speaker 1: and we'll have him available to us in twenty nineteen.

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Speaker 1: And I just don't think they had a plan for

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Speaker 1: And I think that's one of the big reasons Kareem

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Speaker 1: Hunt wasn't claimed. After people saw what Washington experience, they decided,

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Speaker 1: you know what, it's not worth putting ourselves in this

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Speaker 1: position where we're gonna suffer through a week of bad

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Speaker 1: pr for a guy who can't play for us until

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Speaker 1: who knows when. In teen or maybe not even until Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's the question I had next is will either one

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Speaker 1: of these guys play in the league again. I think

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Speaker 1: Foster will be back at some point next year, and

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Speaker 1: I think Hunt, unless the NFL decided to, would pose

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Speaker 1: June incident that's been reported, the league's investigating. There's a

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Speaker 1: January incident that popped up earlier this week. I mean,

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Speaker 1: if they really want to stack together these punishments, they

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Speaker 1: could knock him out for all of twenty nineteen and

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Speaker 1: maybe even into twenty twenty. But this guy is ascending.

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Speaker 1: He left the league in rushing as a rookie, and

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Speaker 1: there will be a team that will give the guy

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Speaker 1: a second chance. Mikel Vick got a second chance. I

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Speaker 1: never thought he'd be back in the NFL after the

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Speaker 1: things he admitted to doing and after going to prison

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Speaker 1: for two years. Hunt's not even gonna get arrested for

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Speaker 1: any of the things he did. So you'll see that.

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Speaker 1: You'll see him get a second chance somewhere, and somebody's

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Speaker 1: gonna end up with a pretty good player. Who's going

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Speaker 1: to be motivated to show that that number one, he's

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Speaker 1: gotten his life together, and number two that he can

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Speaker 1: still get it done and that he can earn the

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Speaker 1: In Kansas City, Mike Florio with US Pro Football Talk,

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Speaker 1: how does TMZ get all these videos ahead of the

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Speaker 1: league and the authority mine they paid for him and

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Speaker 1: the NFL is not inclined to do it. I posted

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Speaker 1: something earlier today explaining that the NFL is very leary

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Speaker 1: about trying to beat TMZ at its own game, because

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Speaker 1: you know, t m z's immediate outlet, and even though

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Speaker 1: wouldn't be trying to get it for the purposes of media.

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Speaker 1: They'd be trying to get it to the purposes of

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Speaker 1: internal discipline. So if the hotel whose employee sells that

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Speaker 1: video to the NFL decides to sue that employee in

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Speaker 1: the NFL gets in the middle of it, they can't say, well,

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Speaker 1: where we don't have to tell you who gave us this.

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Speaker 1: And I think they're very concerned about getting themselves some

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Speaker 1: ugly messages if they start doing what TMZ does. Plus

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Speaker 1: there's an unseemly quality to this idea of paying for

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Speaker 1: for videos. So what they need to do is try

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Speaker 1: harder to get the video that they're operating in a

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Speaker 1: in a scenario where TMZ will pay, the NFL won't.

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Speaker 1: And I think that they need to be relentless in

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Speaker 1: their efforts to try to get law enforcement to demand

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Speaker 1: the video, law enforcement to share the video. That was

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Speaker 1: the problem in Cleveland. The hotel would only get the

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Speaker 1: video to law enforcement, and law enforcement wouldn't ask for it.

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Speaker 1: And I'd love to see the paper trail between the

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Speaker 1: League office and law enforcement in Cleveland as to how

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Speaker 1: think they need to do everything they can. They need

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Speaker 1: to never let it go and try and try and try.

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Speaker 1: Once into that videos there, they gotta do everything they

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Speaker 1: can't short of buying it to get that video. Hey,

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Speaker 1: what's uh you gonna watch Thursday night? And who you

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Speaker 1: got Titans or Jays? Well, you know, I never know

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Speaker 1: which Titans team is going to show up. Nobody does,

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Speaker 1: and and and the Titans at six and six you know,

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Speaker 1: we were talking earlier today on TFT Live. Christens and

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Speaker 1: I were going through all the six six teams to

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Speaker 1: figure out which one's going to find the gas pedal,

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Speaker 1: because every year it seems like there's a team that

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Speaker 1: this one's gonna go. Short week dynamic changes everything. I

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Speaker 1: probably air on the side of the home team, but

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Speaker 1: error is the key word, because we saw the Jaguars

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Speaker 1: really a game where I have no idea how it's

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Speaker 1: the more reason to watch. Well, the way the Jags

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Speaker 1: get that done last week against the Colts, so we'll

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Speaker 1: see if the Jags defense is up to the task again. Tomorrow. Hey, Mike,

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Speaker 1: it's great to talk to you. We really appreciate your time. Man,

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Speaker 1: Nissan Stadium. What what is Let me know when you

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Speaker 1: figure out which way the Titans team is going to go?

641
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Speaker 1: Which which way? Will that be? The final month? Paul? Yeah,

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00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:58,000
Speaker 1: I wish I knew. Um, you know, last year at

643
00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:00,720
Speaker 1: this time they were eight and four and a lot

644
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 1: of bad stuff was ahead. Um, they finished nine and seven.

645
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Speaker 1: Only after that last week win over the Jags, when

646
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:11,320
Speaker 1: the Jags already had things sealed up, so it's gonna

647
00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:15,720
Speaker 1: be a harder track, uh this time around. Winnable games obviously,

648
00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:21,120
Speaker 1: Jags are not what most of us expected. UM. Giants

649
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Speaker 1: and Washington have had before season finale at home against

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Speaker 1: the Colts, which could could be a huge game, could

651
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Speaker 1: be a playoff game if the Titans take care of

652
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:35,280
Speaker 1: things between now and then. But Titan has been very

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00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 1: up and down, very unpredictable, often playing to the level

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Speaker 1: of the competition. UM, so it's it's really hard to know.

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Speaker 1: And coming off a game where you know, they did

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Speaker 1: what they had to do and beating the Jets, but um,

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Speaker 1: I really didn't look like they were up to the

658
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:55,920
Speaker 1: task for for three quarters of that game. Really. Uh,

659
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Speaker 1: it was disappointing. So it's hard to know exactly what

660
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:03,520
Speaker 1: the what they're gonna be. Um, they're not as talented

661
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:06,200
Speaker 1: as as we thought. The loss at Delaney Walker on

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00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:11,360
Speaker 1: opening day really really hurt them. And UM, you know,

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Speaker 1: Mike Vrabel and his staff UM, which is a lot

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Speaker 1: of newcomers still kind of sorting through things. Speaking of Rabel, Paul,

665
00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:22,720
Speaker 1: you know you're with him on a day to day

666
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:25,920
Speaker 1: basis there on the beat. UM compare him to some

667
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Speaker 1: of the Titans coaches in the past, Malarkey and wizzen

668
00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:30,880
Speaker 1: Hunt and Munshack and Fisher. I mean, how does he

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Speaker 1: compare to deal with what's his personality? How has he

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Speaker 1: been so far in his first year? Well, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I think he's a really smart guy. I think sometimes um,

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Speaker 1: maybe with some of the aggressive calls he's made. Going

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Speaker 1: for a two point conversion at the end of the

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Speaker 1: Chargers game in London, Uh, to play winner loss right

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Speaker 1: there at the end, when it had taken the Titans

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Speaker 1: uh so much energy to get in the end zone

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Speaker 1: for the touchdown. I thought they had taken momentum in

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00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:06,080
Speaker 1: that game and that they'd need more than you know,

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00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:07,880
Speaker 1: they had needs a lot more than one try to

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Speaker 1: get in for the touchdown. I thought it was over aggressive. Um.

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00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:17,000
Speaker 1: Uh they tried a fullback dive with with Luke stock

682
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Speaker 1: or a tight end who never carried the ball in

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Speaker 1: the NFL or in college. Um a couple of weeks

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Speaker 1: ago and a big turning point at Houston. Um, sometimes

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Speaker 1: it seems a little bit too much. Um, a player

686
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Speaker 1: still with wanting to go for it in the way

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00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:39,239
Speaker 1: that a player might We didn't play that long ago.

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00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:44,480
Speaker 1: I mean he was on the field not that long ago. UM,

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Speaker 1: But I think I think he's smart. Like he took

690
00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:50,480
Speaker 1: intentionally took a twelve menu on the field penalty the

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00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:53,000
Speaker 1: other day on the second two against the Jets. That

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00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:56,280
Speaker 1: kind of stop the clock bought the Titans an extra

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Speaker 1: time out, gave them a reset because they knew the

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Speaker 1: Jets were gould to convert a second and two, but

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00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:04,840
Speaker 1: gave them a new kind of four minute defense reset.

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00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:09,279
Speaker 1: And um on a new first new first down there

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00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:13,000
Speaker 1: and helped set the Titans up for a stop, get

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Speaker 1: the ball back, drive down, and you know they were

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00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:17,840
Speaker 1: in position to tie it with the field goal or

700
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:20,279
Speaker 1: win it with touchdown, and they wanted with the touchdown.

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00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:23,319
Speaker 1: He does some smart things like that. I think he's

702
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:26,040
Speaker 1: got a real feel for for what players need in

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00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 1: terms of rest um and and when um and I

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00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:34,560
Speaker 1: think he's a comer, but I think this season maybe

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00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:37,880
Speaker 1: he is a little harder than he and and and

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Speaker 1: UH general manager who hired him, John Robinson expected UM

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Speaker 1: and I think they'll know full well at the end

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00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 1: of the season whether they get in or not. Um

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00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 1: just the work that's ahead of them to kind of

710
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:55,040
Speaker 1: complete the transition into these schemes and uh, and to

711
00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:58,880
Speaker 1: get things going in a better direction a little faster.

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Speaker 1: Caharsky is with us. Give him a follow on Twitter

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Speaker 1: at Paul Koharsky nfl UM Paul Marcus Mariota is a

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00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:09,120
Speaker 1: guy who's taken a lot of hits this year. That's

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Speaker 1: one thing. He runs around a good bit. We know that.

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Speaker 1: Um of those sacks and the quarterback hits? Is it?

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00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:20,440
Speaker 1: Is it? Line issues? Isn't his style of play? Can

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00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:22,880
Speaker 1: he overcome that? What? What has what has been the

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00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:25,960
Speaker 1: reason for him getting just hit a lot this year?

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00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:30,440
Speaker 1: What's the deal? Well, it's line issues first and foremost. Um,

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Speaker 1: you know, knock on wood for them. He's done a

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00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:36,440
Speaker 1: pretty good job surviving it. I mean, he got his

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Speaker 1: elbow knocked pretty good in the season opener and um,

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Speaker 1: and then dealt with you know, kind of weird nerve

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00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:48,400
Speaker 1: stuff like a fun a prolonged funnybone injury where he

726
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:52,160
Speaker 1: had some tingling that that kind of reduced his feeling

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00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:55,000
Speaker 1: in his hand and uh and left him with some

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00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:57,880
Speaker 1: tinglingness in his hand that was an issue for a while.

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00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:02,240
Speaker 1: He overcame that and uh, you know it's been dinged

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Speaker 1: once since then. But he's done a better job staying

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Speaker 1: healthy than you might expect based on how much he's

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Speaker 1: been hit. He's just not uh, not doing well enough

733
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Speaker 1: throwing the ball away and get getting himself out of trouble.

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Speaker 1: There's some metrics that say generally gets rid of the

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00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:20,560
Speaker 1: ball quickly, but he's not getting rid of it quickly enough.

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Speaker 1: And some of those sacks circumstances. Now sometimes I mean

737
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:26,600
Speaker 1: people are getting blown up and uh, and he's hit

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Speaker 1: very quickly, but I think even in some of those circumstances,

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00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:33,040
Speaker 1: he should see stuff coming. And uh, you know, he's

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00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:38,879
Speaker 1: got some circumstances where he's getting ah, he's creating big

741
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:41,759
Speaker 1: losses where he could have smaller losses and uh and

742
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:44,759
Speaker 1: it's a problem there there and second and long and

743
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 1: third and long and far too often and uh and

744
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:49,560
Speaker 1: not able to battle out of that stuff. And the

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00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:54,120
Speaker 1: Jaguars obviously came to life against Andrew luck putting the

746
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:57,520
Speaker 1: Colts in some of those situations. So they're gonna need

747
00:37:57,560 --> 00:37:59,720
Speaker 1: to do far better. And they'd certainly like to see

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00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:02,839
Speaker 1: the Jaguars from previous weeks and not from last week

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Speaker 1: Tomorrow night. Yeah, that that's the recipe for the Jaguars

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Speaker 1: right now, they have to nearly pitch a shutout the

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00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:11,000
Speaker 1: way the Jags offense is set up and is playing

752
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:14,480
Speaker 1: these days, and I'm not sure if that can happen

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00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:17,520
Speaker 1: again tomorrow night. A couple of top ten defense speaking

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Speaker 1: of the Jags defense, the Titans defense the top ten

755
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 1: unit as well, familiar names Casey, Iraqpo Wood you admired

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Speaker 1: all the rest. I mean, where do these guys stand?

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00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:29,800
Speaker 1: Why are they ranking so highly? And it's got a

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00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:32,400
Speaker 1: start up front, right with with Casey, he's still stud.

759
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:36,040
Speaker 1: He's a stud, but he didn't have much help alongside him.

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00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:38,720
Speaker 1: The rest of the defensive line hasn't really done much.

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00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:41,960
Speaker 1: And those outside guys you mentioned Racpo. He had a

762
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:45,279
Speaker 1: good game last week, but he's looked old this year.

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00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:47,880
Speaker 1: He's in the last year of his contract. Derek Morgan's

764
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:50,399
Speaker 1: banged up, might not play. He's in the last year

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00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:52,640
Speaker 1: his contract. Has been banged up a lot this year

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00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:56,760
Speaker 1: and hasn't done much. Uh. The interiors really provided the rush.

767
00:38:56,840 --> 00:39:01,680
Speaker 1: Wesley Woodyard H J. Brown, the young inside linebacker. He's

768
00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:04,040
Speaker 1: more of a coverage guy, but has found a way

769
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:07,480
Speaker 1: um to get in the backfield, particularly on blitz is.

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00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:10,960
Speaker 1: It's a good scoring defense first and foremost. It was

771
00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 1: first for a while before it got lit up and

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00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:16,960
Speaker 1: back to back weeks by the Colts, um and the Texans.

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00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 1: Good scoring defense, still, good red zone defense, very good

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00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:25,239
Speaker 1: at making people kick field goals and buckling down. But

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00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:27,400
Speaker 1: not a lot of good individual numbers, not a lot

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00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:31,080
Speaker 1: of sacks um and not a lot of turnovers. It's

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00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:36,160
Speaker 1: been been uh too long since. Uh. I mean Malcolm

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Speaker 1: Butler finished this game off this week with an interception,

779
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:42,759
Speaker 1: but uh uh an interception to staunch the bleeding in

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00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:45,120
Speaker 1: the middle of the game hasn't come in a long time.

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00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:47,400
Speaker 1: Haven't seen the defense in the end zone in a

782
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:50,480
Speaker 1: long time. Um, they really could help out the offense

783
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:53,560
Speaker 1: even a bit more. But it's a it's a defensive

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00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:55,799
Speaker 1: football team for sure. Every time I think it's going

785
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:57,799
Speaker 1: to be an offensive football team and don't turn out

786
00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:00,160
Speaker 1: that way. No, it doesn't. And we we saw that

787
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:02,600
Speaker 1: certainly at the end of the regular season last year.

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Speaker 1: A couple of interceptions I buyed in that game, one

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Speaker 1: to seal it and then won the middle of the

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Speaker 1: football game as well off Blake Portals. Alright, so Thursday

791
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:12,480
Speaker 1: night football is the city ready. They're excited about the

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00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:14,360
Speaker 1: Titans still are they kind of on the on the

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00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:19,520
Speaker 1: fence here? Uh? Well, I wrote this week, Um, you know,

794
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:24,200
Speaker 1: this team still hasn't grabbed this town. Obviously, the two

795
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:27,479
Speaker 1: nine and seven seasons were way better than the Ken

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00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:30,200
Speaker 1: wizzen Hunt era where they you know, had two and

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00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:33,960
Speaker 1: three wins and consecutive seasons, and um, he got fired

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00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:36,680
Speaker 1: in the middle of one of those. Uh last year

799
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:38,640
Speaker 1: nine and seven and went to the playoffs. But there

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00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:40,959
Speaker 1: was a real disconnect between the team and the town

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00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:45,759
Speaker 1: lugely over the playing style. Uh and Malarkey's future was

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00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:50,080
Speaker 1: a big storyline there still and it hasn't connected much better.

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00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 1: This new final offense was supposed to grab people scored

804
00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:56,680
Speaker 1: ten points less at this stage of the season than

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00:40:57,000 --> 00:41:02,000
Speaker 1: Malarkey's archaic offense. So I don't know how how how

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00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:04,440
Speaker 1: well it's gonna go tomorrow in terms of the tenants.

807
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:07,319
Speaker 1: It's cold here and I think people are frustrated with

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00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 1: this team. Uh. Still holding out hope obviously that that

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00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:14,080
Speaker 1: it will produce a playoff birth, but there's no love

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00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 1: affair going on right now. People are frustrated that they

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00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:20,240
Speaker 1: haven't turned the corner and figured things out. Malarkey's offense

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00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:22,799
Speaker 1: was archaic. That was exotic smash mouth. Paul. I don't

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Speaker 1: know what you're talking about. It was exotic arcade. Paul.

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Speaker 1: It's uh. It's good to talk to you, but it's

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Speaker 1: been too long and we'll hope to talk to you

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00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:34,560
Speaker 1: again soon. Thanks for your time today. Thanks for having Paulski.

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Speaker 1: he's been on that beat really since day one, since

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851
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:31,840
Speaker 1: our fees and enhanced our already competitive rates, saving members

852
00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:34,680
Speaker 1: more than a million dollars this year, in addition to

853
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:37,560
Speaker 1: the millions we saved them every year. If you believe

854
00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:41,440
Speaker 1: that saving money is better, joined by Star. We never

855
00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:44,760
Speaker 1: forget that it's your money, all loan subject to approval,

856
00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:57,200
Speaker 1: insured by n c u A. We all just kind

857
00:43:57,200 --> 00:43:59,839
Speaker 1: of set around because week and they just calledxaulted each other,

858
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:03,279
Speaker 1: what do you want? And so we kind of thought

859
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:06,000
Speaker 1: has together, Hey, we are here, we're playing flats. All

860
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:08,239
Speaker 1: were playing fill closed plan of all the playing five

861
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:13,960
Speaker 1: names on our bed and we play it's Marcel Darius.

862
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:15,800
Speaker 1: We could listen to him all day. That was in

863
00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:18,120
Speaker 1: the locker room after the win over the Indianapolis Colts,

864
00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:20,680
Speaker 1: the shutout victory for the Jaguars football team to snap

865
00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:23,960
Speaker 1: a seven game losing skid. The Jags are currently in flight.

866
00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 1: They're headed to Nashville for Thursday night football against the

867
00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:30,719
Speaker 1: Tennessee Titans. We welcome in our friend Alex Marvez from

868
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:33,880
Speaker 1: Sirius XM Radio. Alex, it's great to talk with you.

869
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:37,399
Speaker 1: Thanks for coming on today, Bud Noble, and I'm sorry

870
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:39,239
Speaker 1: they left your behind again. I mean, listen, I know

871
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:41,480
Speaker 1: what this has become. At first you thought, Okay, this

872
00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:43,439
Speaker 1: is cute, and then you realize that they were changing

873
00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:45,239
Speaker 1: your schedule that they were giving you so that you

874
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:47,719
Speaker 1: kept missing this flight. I hope it's nothing personal, any

875
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:49,800
Speaker 1: any sort of thing that you did, but it is

876
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:52,040
Speaker 1: still great to be talking to you. Yeah, I hope

877
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:55,600
Speaker 1: it's not personal either. But that's well, we'll see. The

878
00:44:55,719 --> 00:45:00,400
Speaker 1: jury's out, alex Um. The Jags have some issues right now,

879
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:03,640
Speaker 1: alex certainly on the offensive side. They let the offensive

880
00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:08,080
Speaker 1: coordinator go. They've benched the franchise quarterback and that's never

881
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:10,480
Speaker 1: a good sign for the final month of the season

882
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:13,520
Speaker 1: and then this offseason coming ahead. There's a lot of

883
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:17,360
Speaker 1: change of float down here in Jacksonville. Yeah, that's what

884
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:19,560
Speaker 1: it's looking like. And listen, you know, things unfortunately for

885
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:21,759
Speaker 1: Nate Hacket, the guy very creative at times with this

886
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:23,920
Speaker 1: game plan, and you know, had made some strides with

887
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:25,759
Speaker 1: Blake Portals and where I don't want to sit here

888
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:27,880
Speaker 1: and beat up on Blake because I actually like Blake Portals,

889
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:30,000
Speaker 1: but as a person he's always been gracious to me.

890
00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:32,719
Speaker 1: But as a quarterback, you know, sometimes you know, in

891
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:34,440
Speaker 1: this league, you've got to be able to raise the

892
00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:37,400
Speaker 1: level of the play around you. And unfortunately for Blake,

893
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:39,440
Speaker 1: it just wasn't happening. And of course he pays a

894
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:41,680
Speaker 1: heavy price in eate Hacket pays a heavy price, and

895
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:43,840
Speaker 1: it just raises some questions. So what is the future

896
00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:46,600
Speaker 1: at quarterback for the Jacksonville Jaguars, And you know, and

897
00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:48,880
Speaker 1: it's so weird, right because each time you win, you

898
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:50,520
Speaker 1: feel better about it and you're trying to get the

899
00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:53,880
Speaker 1: program to finish strong in December. But it also moves

900
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:55,960
Speaker 1: you away from one of those high draft picks where

901
00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:57,759
Speaker 1: you may be able to get a quarterback. And we

902
00:45:57,840 --> 00:45:59,800
Speaker 1: look at some of the teams that are struggling in

903
00:45:59,840 --> 00:46:02,279
Speaker 1: the NFL right now, and they may need quarterbacks. So

904
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:04,520
Speaker 1: I think that's one of the tough parts about this,

905
00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:06,359
Speaker 1: you know, I think it really starts right there, JP

906
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:08,760
Speaker 1: just trying to figure out who's going to be under center.

907
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:10,719
Speaker 1: I'm not sure if Scott Milanovitch is the long term

908
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:13,400
Speaker 1: answer at offensive coordinator, but we'll let him call the

909
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:15,600
Speaker 1: plays right now. See where that goes. But I think

910
00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:17,840
Speaker 1: everything really starts there, and of course a return to

911
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:20,360
Speaker 1: health because this wasn't Alan Blake. You've had Leonard for

912
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:22,480
Speaker 1: needed in onto the lineup throughout the year, whether it's

913
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:25,080
Speaker 1: Leonard screwing up or its injuries. You've had four off

914
00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:28,080
Speaker 1: starting offensive lineman, go On I r And Marquis Lee

915
00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:31,200
Speaker 1: one of the underrated absences for the Jacksonville Jaguars. He

916
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:33,600
Speaker 1: developed into a pretty darn good receiver. He hasn't been

917
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:35,120
Speaker 1: playing all years since getting hurt, I think and we

918
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:38,200
Speaker 1: want Yeah, that's a great point, Alex. The Marquis sleeping.

919
00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:40,879
Speaker 1: It was actually the preseason against the Falcons he got

920
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:44,319
Speaker 1: rocked and h He's his recovery continues, and of course

921
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:47,600
Speaker 1: they signed him to a longer deal before this season.

922
00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:50,279
Speaker 1: He's not available and it's not even yet. Certainly his

923
00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:52,560
Speaker 1: speed and everything in the in the past game down

924
00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:55,080
Speaker 1: the field to get vertical, but he's big in the

925
00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:57,080
Speaker 1: run game now, they'll they'll be the first to tell

926
00:46:57,120 --> 00:47:00,440
Speaker 1: you the guy can block too, absolutely if you're right

927
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:03,000
Speaker 1: about that, and one of the underrated things about him.

928
00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:05,440
Speaker 1: And it's been an interesting year for Dante Moncrief as well.

929
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:07,400
Speaker 1: I know it was a one year. Let's see how

930
00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:09,920
Speaker 1: this Ghoest type deal, you know, nine million dollar salary.

931
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:11,919
Speaker 1: It was solid. You know, he was hoping to become

932
00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:14,360
Speaker 1: the next Alshon. Jeffrey Right and al Shan signed almost

933
00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:16,799
Speaker 1: the exact same numbers with the Philadelphia Eagles and they

934
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:18,600
Speaker 1: were able to strike the long term to deal with

935
00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:20,919
Speaker 1: him during the season. And al Shan has been great

936
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:23,120
Speaker 1: for the Eagles. So here's something else for the Jacks

937
00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:26,040
Speaker 1: to consider, because they've got so much money now up

938
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:28,160
Speaker 1: against the salary cap, and they understood that this was

939
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:30,640
Speaker 1: a team that was built to peak in eighteen. Some

940
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:33,200
Speaker 1: familiar faces that that you've seen in Jackson go for

941
00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:35,759
Speaker 1: a while, probably won't be back next year as his

942
00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:38,400
Speaker 1: team retools and and just tries to keep having the

943
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:40,879
Speaker 1: success in the draft that it's been that it has been,

944
00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:43,200
Speaker 1: because while the free agent signings have helped the Jacks

945
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:46,120
Speaker 1: get to be two thousand, seventeen AFC Championship Game, it's

946
00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:48,120
Speaker 1: really the draft that to me has served as the

947
00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:50,279
Speaker 1: backbone of so much of the positive things that have

948
00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:54,080
Speaker 1: happened on Florida's first goes Alex Marvez with a serious

949
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:58,439
Speaker 1: XM Radio Leonard for that is back. He has missed

950
00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:01,319
Speaker 1: ten of twenty eight pass games in his career. Either

951
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:04,480
Speaker 1: the injury or suspension or the team holding him off

952
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:06,480
Speaker 1: to the side, whichever way you want to look at it,

953
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:10,000
Speaker 1: is he a long term franchise back in this league?

954
00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:12,680
Speaker 1: Can he be that kind of guy? Count? Well, he

955
00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:15,200
Speaker 1: can be, what with more consistency. I mean, the nice

956
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:16,759
Speaker 1: part of the Jack is, look at you're in for

957
00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:18,239
Speaker 1: a penning, You're in for a pound, right, And we

958
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:20,600
Speaker 1: got two more years to try to determine this. When

959
00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:22,279
Speaker 1: I when I was in you know, at your Jack

960
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:25,439
Speaker 1: training camp in mid August, you know, nice, nice, cool,

961
00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:28,480
Speaker 1: breezy degree day in the middle of the month. Um,

962
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:31,680
Speaker 1: you know, Leonard Fournette looked great, right, and you know,

963
00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:34,319
Speaker 1: he looked like he had lost some weight. He spoke

964
00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:36,440
Speaker 1: with a guy with a lot more confidence than he

965
00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:38,600
Speaker 1: did in his rookie season. And I'm not you know,

966
00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:40,759
Speaker 1: that's not disparaging his rookie season. But I'm just trying

967
00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:42,440
Speaker 1: to give you a snapshot from one year to the

968
00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:44,520
Speaker 1: next about what I saw in Leonard Fornett. And I

969
00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:47,160
Speaker 1: was really optimistic that he had turned the corner. You know,

970
00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:49,120
Speaker 1: remember in his rookie season he had been I think

971
00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:51,080
Speaker 1: he missed a meeting or something JP, I forget what

972
00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:55,400
Speaker 1: it was, but team photos. I mean, yeah, so you

973
00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:57,279
Speaker 1: know that sort of steff he just can't do at

974
00:48:57,280 --> 00:48:59,279
Speaker 1: this level. And you know, for Leonard, it's always been

975
00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:00,640
Speaker 1: so easy for him, right and be one of the

976
00:49:00,680 --> 00:49:02,440
Speaker 1: great high school running backs you've ever seen, one of

977
00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:04,960
Speaker 1: the great college running backs that you had seen. And

978
00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:07,200
Speaker 1: he gets to the NFL and it's it's a different animal.

979
00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:09,200
Speaker 1: You have to be disciplined, you have to watch your weight.

980
00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:11,239
Speaker 1: I mean you're so you know, as the number four

981
00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:13,759
Speaker 1: overall picking the draft, there's responsibilities that come with that,

982
00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:16,839
Speaker 1: and unfortunately at times Leonard has not embraced that list.

983
00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:19,520
Speaker 1: And the guy got hurt hamstring injury. Fortunately doesn't look

984
00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:21,719
Speaker 1: like it's a chronic thing, you know ala Shawn Lee.

985
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:23,520
Speaker 1: But I think the jury still I don't whether this

986
00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:25,360
Speaker 1: is gonna work out for him, you know, over the

987
00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:27,160
Speaker 1: long haul, he's got two years to prove it and

988
00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:29,000
Speaker 1: try to earn that big money deal. I know they

989
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:31,280
Speaker 1: can redo is do after year three out of Tide Gurley,

990
00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:33,319
Speaker 1: but I don't think that's happening. I think it's gonna

991
00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:35,960
Speaker 1: say two solid years of Leonard Burnett showing that he's

992
00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:38,120
Speaker 1: someone that you can trust. Otherwise I wouldn't be surprised

993
00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:40,520
Speaker 1: if the jackson move on, Alex, What do you make

994
00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:43,680
Speaker 1: of the leadership structure here in Jacksonville where a couple

995
00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:46,719
Speaker 1: of seasons into it now Tom Coughlin at the top,

996
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:50,680
Speaker 1: Dave calledwell the GM, Doug Marone the head coach, Tony

997
00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:53,440
Speaker 1: Con is involved in there, of course as Parcelona or

998
00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:56,400
Speaker 1: the team, and shot Con the owner. It's um, you

999
00:49:56,480 --> 00:50:00,160
Speaker 1: don't see that type of you know, structure. I guess

1000
00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:01,600
Speaker 1: around the league a lot. What did you make the

1001
00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:04,160
Speaker 1: first couple of years of this? I think it's fine.

1002
00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:06,160
Speaker 1: I don't think the leadership structure is that you know

1003
00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:08,520
Speaker 1: that the structure of it itself is not the problem

1004
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:11,560
Speaker 1: that the problem is like portals decision is there's a

1005
00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:13,759
Speaker 1: big one. I mean for this team, you know that

1006
00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:15,920
Speaker 1: was a huge one. I mean, look and endless that

1007
00:50:16,040 --> 00:50:17,879
Speaker 1: every team is gonna have hits, every team is gonna

1008
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:19,640
Speaker 1: have some misses, right, I mean, look, Aaron Coleban to

1009
00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:21,400
Speaker 1: me's a heck of a corner. But there's only so

1010
00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:23,319
Speaker 1: many players are going to be able to resign, right,

1011
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:25,799
Speaker 1: And I'm not sure if the nickel you know, the Nickel.

1012
00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:27,680
Speaker 1: Cornerback play has been up to snuff, and I know

1013
00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:30,200
Speaker 1: there's been some injuries. Listen, very Church that didn't want

1014
00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:32,400
Speaker 1: expect the wheels to fall off on him as quickly

1015
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:34,600
Speaker 1: as they did. But fortunately you've got a nice replacement

1016
00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:37,120
Speaker 1: in Richardson, the rookie who started last week and had

1017
00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:39,040
Speaker 1: a big game, I know, a big sack against the Colts.

1018
00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:42,000
Speaker 1: So there's something that's promising there. I don't think the

1019
00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:44,719
Speaker 1: structure of this team is an issue. In fact, I

1020
00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:47,360
Speaker 1: think it's actually a positive for this team because there

1021
00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:51,279
Speaker 1: are defined roles. Everybody knows what their responsibility is. Do

1022
00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:53,120
Speaker 1: your job, JP, and you'll be fine. Just like when

1023
00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:54,960
Speaker 1: John oshan boss is you around. As long as you

1024
00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:59,680
Speaker 1: respect him, you're doing great. Yeah, that's just like, that's

1025
00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:04,480
Speaker 1: just Alex straight of Um, there have been changes in

1026
00:51:04,560 --> 00:51:07,399
Speaker 1: the league already though. Mike McCarthy's out in Green Bay,

1027
00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:12,160
Speaker 1: Hugh Jackson is out in Cleveland. Um, what was the

1028
00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:14,960
Speaker 1: how about the McCarthy when let's start with that one?

1029
00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:18,000
Speaker 1: How surprising mid season was that that was when he

1030
00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:20,359
Speaker 1: kind of felt coming though the way things were going

1031
00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:23,560
Speaker 1: apart there, Yeah, things were going that way. But listen,

1032
00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:25,840
Speaker 1: you know, for the for the Packers. What was the

1033
00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:28,080
Speaker 1: endgame on all this? I mean, you you just lost

1034
00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:31,000
Speaker 1: to the Arizona Cardinals and that is, you know, probably

1035
00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:33,680
Speaker 1: the worst team in football, just just based upon the

1036
00:51:33,719 --> 00:51:36,520
Speaker 1: way they played, every statistical ranking, you name it. You're

1037
00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:39,920
Speaker 1: playing at home December football lambeau Field, knowing that you

1038
00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:42,600
Speaker 1: probably need to win out to make the playoffs, and

1039
00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:45,080
Speaker 1: you just stink. And I think that that was one

1040
00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:46,799
Speaker 1: of those indications. I don't want to say that Mike

1041
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:48,719
Speaker 1: lost the team because I'm not there and I don't

1042
00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:50,080
Speaker 1: you know, I'm not there every day. I don't think

1043
00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:52,200
Speaker 1: that's fair to say. But it was clear that that

1044
00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:55,279
Speaker 1: this was just unacceptable to management. So why waste anybody's time,

1045
00:51:55,600 --> 00:51:57,719
Speaker 1: you know, why continue to see the way it was going? So,

1046
00:51:58,160 --> 00:52:00,160
Speaker 1: you know, this gives the Packers and let's and they

1047
00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:03,040
Speaker 1: can start talking to college coaches now, they can start

1048
00:52:03,080 --> 00:52:05,879
Speaker 1: talking to people outside the league right now, and they're

1049
00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:07,680
Speaker 1: they're in a war right here with the Cleveland Browns

1050
00:52:07,719 --> 00:52:09,200
Speaker 1: for a head coach, and there's gonna be others that

1051
00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:11,000
Speaker 1: end up making changes. You would figure the New York

1052
00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:13,120
Speaker 1: Jets going to be a team that's probably moving on

1053
00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:15,239
Speaker 1: from Todd Bowls as well, and you know a couple

1054
00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:17,920
Speaker 1: of others. So and really, this year, there isn't that

1055
00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:20,480
Speaker 1: hot head coaching candidate. You know what I mean When

1056
00:52:20,520 --> 00:52:22,319
Speaker 1: you look, everyone's trying to find the young, hot shot

1057
00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:25,040
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator, that up and coming guy. Who is it?

1058
00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:27,520
Speaker 1: I mean John D. Philippo in Minnesota. I mean JP,

1059
00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:29,880
Speaker 1: he hasn't heard of running the football. The Vikings have

1060
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:32,279
Speaker 1: the most out of skew offense of any team in

1061
00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:36,680
Speaker 1: the NFL. They passed sixty at the top. I mean, yeah,

1062
00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:38,560
Speaker 1: that's brutal, brother. I mean, you've got to be able

1063
00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:40,800
Speaker 1: to have some sort of running game to complement it.

1064
00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:42,800
Speaker 1: And what happens sometimes is you get these guys, the

1065
00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:45,239
Speaker 1: Jim Bob Couts of the world that you know him,

1066
00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:47,840
Speaker 1: that John D. Filippo, and you know, they forget that

1067
00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:49,400
Speaker 1: you have to have balance and you have to be

1068
00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:51,960
Speaker 1: able to keep teams off guard because they love designing

1069
00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:54,319
Speaker 1: pretty past plays and I understand it. And everyone's seeing

1070
00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:56,960
Speaker 1: the success of Sean McVeigh and Matt Neggie in Chicago.

1071
00:52:57,120 --> 00:52:58,840
Speaker 1: You know they say, Okay, well we're gonna get the

1072
00:52:59,080 --> 00:53:02,160
Speaker 1: hot shot offensive human with a veteran defensive guy and

1073
00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:04,399
Speaker 1: we'll go from there. Well, there aren't too many hot shot,

1074
00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:06,959
Speaker 1: offensive guys out there that are really floating people's VOTs.

1075
00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:09,120
Speaker 1: So I think for the Packers is just allowed them

1076
00:53:09,360 --> 00:53:11,879
Speaker 1: to move on from here. Allow Mike McCarthy too, since

1077
00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:13,399
Speaker 1: he's going to be in high demand that I think

1078
00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:15,480
Speaker 1: he will get another shot right away to be able

1079
00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:17,680
Speaker 1: to prepare for what his next step is. It really

1080
00:53:17,719 --> 00:53:19,759
Speaker 1: works best for rival involved. Trust me, Mike didn't want

1081
00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:21,360
Speaker 1: to get fired. It isn't the way he wanted to

1082
00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:23,320
Speaker 1: go out in Green Bay. He wanted to try to

1083
00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:25,719
Speaker 1: win out, get into the postseason. But the reality is

1084
00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:27,160
Speaker 1: they were going to be moving on, So why not

1085
00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:29,719
Speaker 1: just go from there? What's the better job green Bay

1086
00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:32,440
Speaker 1: with four or five more years of a quarterback or

1087
00:53:32,520 --> 00:53:37,200
Speaker 1: an up and coming Brown's franchise. You gotta live in Cleveland, right,

1088
00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:39,920
Speaker 1: I mean that's sort of right there, JP. I just

1089
00:53:40,040 --> 00:53:42,080
Speaker 1: sort of sort of settled that. I mean, look, I

1090
00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:44,120
Speaker 1: think when you have John Dorsey, a guy who his

1091
00:53:44,239 --> 00:53:47,120
Speaker 1: track record speaks for itself as far as personnel goes,

1092
00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:49,560
Speaker 1: and building a winning roster, I think that's a really

1093
00:53:49,640 --> 00:53:51,839
Speaker 1: appealing job. Green Bay's got some work. I don't think

1094
00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:54,600
Speaker 1: it's as far off as people think, but you know,

1095
00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:56,839
Speaker 1: I do think that there's some work ahead and listen

1096
00:53:56,920 --> 00:53:58,640
Speaker 1: to I mean, what are you gonna run with Aaron Rodgers?

1097
00:53:58,680 --> 00:54:01,080
Speaker 1: I just feel like the fense, you know, And I

1098
00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:03,160
Speaker 1: hope Mike just takes a look back and not take

1099
00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:05,520
Speaker 1: it personally or anything like that, but takes a look

1100
00:54:05,560 --> 00:54:07,279
Speaker 1: at what he's been doing on the offensive side of

1101
00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:10,080
Speaker 1: the football and having Aaron Rodgers stand back there and

1102
00:54:10,120 --> 00:54:12,280
Speaker 1: waiting for these plays to develop. I mean, the NFL

1103
00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:15,240
Speaker 1: has become a short passing league, JP. We've seen offense

1104
00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:17,960
Speaker 1: and passing we've never seen before in the NFL. Because

1105
00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:20,720
Speaker 1: of the high completion passes, quarterbacks are getting the football

1106
00:54:20,719 --> 00:54:23,040
Speaker 1: out of their hands quicker than ever. It's the exact

1107
00:54:23,160 --> 00:54:26,040
Speaker 1: opposite in Green Bay. It seems almost archaic with the

1108
00:54:26,080 --> 00:54:27,759
Speaker 1: way that they're doing their business. But I will tell

1109
00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:30,000
Speaker 1: you this, based upon the draft this year, not only

1110
00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:32,520
Speaker 1: does John Dorsey deserve high mark, but Brian gutten Coust,

1111
00:54:32,680 --> 00:54:34,880
Speaker 1: the general manager. In his first year there, JP, he

1112
00:54:34,960 --> 00:54:38,160
Speaker 1: did a fantastic job finding some nice talent at wide receiver,

1113
00:54:38,520 --> 00:54:41,520
Speaker 1: some talented linebacker I mean, listen, and retooling that secondary.

1114
00:54:41,560 --> 00:54:43,600
Speaker 1: I think ultimately these guys are gonna be pretty good.

1115
00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:45,840
Speaker 1: What's interesting about Green Bay as well. Mike Petton I

1116
00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:49,000
Speaker 1: think done a solid job as defensive coordinator there. So

1117
00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:51,760
Speaker 1: does green Bay look for that young, hot shot offensive

1118
00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:53,960
Speaker 1: coach and then say, okay, we're good with Mike Petton

1119
00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:56,400
Speaker 1: will roll from there. And the same thing with Cleveland

1120
00:54:56,520 --> 00:54:58,000
Speaker 1: Greg Williams. I don't think he's going to be the

1121
00:54:58,040 --> 00:55:00,360
Speaker 1: head coach there, but to the Browns Entie Faim with

1122
00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:02,719
Speaker 1: a Vic Bangio a three million plus dollar a year

1123
00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:04,719
Speaker 1: offer to try to keep him in the fold. So

1124
00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:07,279
Speaker 1: I think it's interesting. I think both teams are looking

1125
00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:09,200
Speaker 1: for the same thing. It'll be interesting to see how

1126
00:55:09,239 --> 00:55:12,000
Speaker 1: that one plays out. Alex Marvez with us last couple

1127
00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:13,560
Speaker 1: of minutes with you here, Alex, you still have the

1128
00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:17,120
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame vote right, I'm now a permanent voter.

1129
00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:20,920
Speaker 1: By the way, you're in, You're in the room. I

1130
00:55:21,040 --> 00:55:23,880
Speaker 1: like that. That congratulations. I thought I thought voting for

1131
00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:25,800
Speaker 1: the Pro Wrestling Observer Hall of Fame. It was like

1132
00:55:25,880 --> 00:55:27,680
Speaker 1: my peak, that's what Tony and I thought. But now

1133
00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:29,360
Speaker 1: it's not, and it's just you know, really, I'm just

1134
00:55:29,680 --> 00:55:31,239
Speaker 1: now I got this not bad. It was just a

1135
00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:35,160
Speaker 1: stepping zone to get you here, um, Tony Baselli is

1136
00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:38,439
Speaker 1: a semifinalist again, he was in the room last year.

1137
00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:41,040
Speaker 1: What are the odds here is you have a good,

1138
00:55:41,239 --> 00:55:44,200
Speaker 1: a real shot to get in this year. Well, let's

1139
00:55:44,239 --> 00:55:45,960
Speaker 1: take a look at Here's how I like to look

1140
00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:47,840
Speaker 1: at this sort of thing. Right, how many slots are

1141
00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:50,880
Speaker 1: we talking about? Right now? We have five modern error

1142
00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:53,040
Speaker 1: candidates who are set to get into the Pro Football

1143
00:55:53,040 --> 00:55:55,040
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. So who do we figure gets in

1144
00:55:55,120 --> 00:55:57,440
Speaker 1: on the first ballot? Tony Gonzalez? And it was okay, right,

1145
00:55:57,480 --> 00:55:59,800
Speaker 1: So you figure Tony gets what are those flops the

1146
00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:02,800
Speaker 1: figure Ed Reid? And Ed Reid gets one of those slots,

1147
00:56:02,840 --> 00:56:04,439
Speaker 1: and then I think there's gonna be a strong push

1148
00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:06,920
Speaker 1: for Champ Bailey to get one of those spots. So

1149
00:56:07,080 --> 00:56:09,640
Speaker 1: what does that leave us? That leaves us to Hall

1150
00:56:09,680 --> 00:56:12,920
Speaker 1: of Fame spots. And that's where the Joscelyn begins, so

1151
00:56:13,040 --> 00:56:14,719
Speaker 1: to speak, to try to get people into the Hall

1152
00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:17,440
Speaker 1: of Fame. I can tell you without breaking any confidences

1153
00:56:17,600 --> 00:56:20,800
Speaker 1: or Hall of Fame rules. In my eyes, Isaac Bruce's

1154
00:56:20,840 --> 00:56:24,960
Speaker 1: candidacy really got help last year because of the comparisons

1155
00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:28,360
Speaker 1: between Tara Owens you know, and other great wide receivers.

1156
00:56:28,520 --> 00:56:31,080
Speaker 1: I think that it really helped Isaac and I think

1157
00:56:31,160 --> 00:56:33,560
Speaker 1: voters may look come into this Hall of Fame class

1158
00:56:33,600 --> 00:56:36,240
Speaker 1: looking at him differently maybe than they did in the past,

1159
00:56:36,320 --> 00:56:38,239
Speaker 1: because his body of work is so impressive and it

1160
00:56:38,320 --> 00:56:40,480
Speaker 1: wasn't just the greatest show on turf. This guy was

1161
00:56:40,560 --> 00:56:43,960
Speaker 1: doing some great things well before that. I mean, receiving

1162
00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:47,440
Speaker 1: yards in a second NFL season was absolutely ridiculous, you know.

1163
00:56:47,600 --> 00:56:50,040
Speaker 1: And if we're comparing apples to apples, and if you're

1164
00:56:50,040 --> 00:56:51,879
Speaker 1: one of these Hall of Fame voters, it says, why

1165
00:56:51,880 --> 00:56:53,880
Speaker 1: I don't want to vote for five dbs to get in.

1166
00:56:53,960 --> 00:56:56,600
Speaker 1: I'm going to vote one at each position. Well, as

1167
00:56:56,640 --> 00:56:59,200
Speaker 1: Tony Boselli a better candidate than Thief Hutchinson, As Tony

1168
00:56:59,200 --> 00:57:01,880
Speaker 1: Boselli a better handidate than Kevin Mawai, And is he

1169
00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:04,359
Speaker 1: a better candidate than Alan Fantica, you know, and all

1170
00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:05,840
Speaker 1: of these guys now are starting to get to be

1171
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:09,320
Speaker 1: multiple times in the room as offensive line candidate. I

1172
00:57:09,400 --> 00:57:12,120
Speaker 1: think Tony during his heyday was an incredible player. You know.

1173
00:57:12,239 --> 00:57:14,160
Speaker 1: Part of the problem he has that Terrell Davis was

1174
00:57:14,239 --> 00:57:16,919
Speaker 1: able to overcome is that t D You you saw

1175
00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:19,840
Speaker 1: Terrell Davis, it was tangible to watch him run with

1176
00:57:19,920 --> 00:57:21,640
Speaker 1: the football right and carry it, and he was an

1177
00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:24,240
Speaker 1: offensive superstar and a Super Bowl m v P, all

1178
00:57:24,280 --> 00:57:26,640
Speaker 1: of those things. With Tony Vasselli, he blocks. I mean,

1179
00:57:26,720 --> 00:57:28,400
Speaker 1: you know what I saying, it's it's not the sexiest

1180
00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:30,440
Speaker 1: thing in the world. So he's got to overcome the

1181
00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:32,520
Speaker 1: fact that he had such a short injury play career.

1182
00:57:32,600 --> 00:57:34,760
Speaker 1: But when he was on there was nobody better. And

1183
00:57:34,840 --> 00:57:37,200
Speaker 1: I think that's the hope for Tony Boselli and whoever

1184
00:57:37,240 --> 00:57:39,120
Speaker 1: the presenter is has to be able to stress this

1185
00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:41,480
Speaker 1: in JP just behind the scenes thing here on this

1186
00:57:41,880 --> 00:57:44,000
Speaker 1: to me when I go into the meeting, I know

1187
00:57:44,160 --> 00:57:45,800
Speaker 1: that the guy is a great player. You don't have

1188
00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:47,960
Speaker 1: to tell me how great he is. He's obviously one

1189
00:57:47,960 --> 00:57:50,440
Speaker 1: of the final fiftine. I just want to have answered

1190
00:57:50,480 --> 00:57:52,200
Speaker 1: why he shouldn't be in the Hall of Fame. I

1191
00:57:52,280 --> 00:57:54,440
Speaker 1: want you to be able to be prepared to tell

1192
00:57:54,520 --> 00:57:56,520
Speaker 1: me all of the reasons why he shouldn't be there

1193
00:57:56,800 --> 00:57:59,080
Speaker 1: have good defense mechanisms for him to be honest to do.

1194
00:57:59,160 --> 00:58:00,960
Speaker 1: I think that's what cost of Parcels getting in the

1195
00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:03,080
Speaker 1: first time people say, well I didn't Bill get in.

1196
00:58:03,160 --> 00:58:05,760
Speaker 1: I'll be honest with you. I thought the presentation was lacking,

1197
00:58:05,880 --> 00:58:08,320
Speaker 1: and there were some questions about Bill that lingered. He

1198
00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:10,680
Speaker 1: finally got in. I mean, trust me, and he's completely worthy.

1199
00:58:10,800 --> 00:58:13,320
Speaker 1: But I just think the presentation matters as well. That's

1200
00:58:13,440 --> 00:58:15,640
Speaker 1: interesting thoughts. I mean, and not a lot of people

1201
00:58:15,720 --> 00:58:17,720
Speaker 1: get an insight into that room. I know you guys

1202
00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:20,840
Speaker 1: are pretty quiet about all the tactics and everything that

1203
00:58:20,920 --> 00:58:23,560
Speaker 1: happens in there. But that's an interesting take. It is

1204
00:58:24,040 --> 00:58:28,880
Speaker 1: each city's voter has to present. Isn't that how it works? Correct?

1205
00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:30,920
Speaker 1: And you know, but I will say this though, sometimes

1206
00:58:31,440 --> 00:58:33,120
Speaker 1: as a presenter you can get a little bit of help.

1207
00:58:33,560 --> 00:58:35,680
Speaker 1: So you know, that's where like some others can come

1208
00:58:35,720 --> 00:58:37,720
Speaker 1: in and you can reach out and you can talk

1209
00:58:37,800 --> 00:58:39,919
Speaker 1: to some at large voters. You can talk to people

1210
00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:42,960
Speaker 1: that support the candidacy and have them try to help.

1211
00:58:43,000 --> 00:58:45,000
Speaker 1: I mean, there's different ways you can present. I mean

1212
00:58:45,040 --> 00:58:47,920
Speaker 1: I've had you know, I'll give you an example. Jeff Legwald. Uh,

1213
00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:51,880
Speaker 1: you know ESPN Denver did an incredible job presenting you

1214
00:58:51,960 --> 00:58:54,320
Speaker 1: know Floyd Little. I mean, you know, JP, A lot

1215
00:58:54,360 --> 00:58:56,560
Speaker 1: of people wouldn't know Floyd Little. Well. The Broncos were

1216
00:58:56,640 --> 00:58:58,520
Speaker 1: terrible in the sixties. I mean this team didn't even

1217
00:58:58,560 --> 00:59:01,280
Speaker 1: make the playoffs for the first time until the seventies,

1218
00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:02,880
Speaker 1: let alone have a winning record. They were like the

1219
00:59:02,920 --> 00:59:05,960
Speaker 1: New Orleans Saints to the sixties in the NFL. Jeff

1220
00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:08,000
Speaker 1: went back and watched all the film and he marked

1221
00:59:08,040 --> 00:59:10,680
Speaker 1: down every time Floyd Little was able to turn getting

1222
00:59:10,720 --> 00:59:12,960
Speaker 1: tackled at the backfield until like a one to three

1223
00:59:13,080 --> 00:59:15,840
Speaker 1: yard game. And you really convince people to do it

1224
00:59:15,960 --> 00:59:18,240
Speaker 1: like that. Armando sal Ghetto of the Miami Herald he

1225
00:59:18,280 --> 00:59:20,320
Speaker 1: got Jason Taylor, and largely because of a letter from

1226
00:59:20,360 --> 00:59:23,120
Speaker 1: Tom Brady where Tom Brady wrote a note to Hall

1227
00:59:23,120 --> 00:59:26,080
Speaker 1: of Fame voters that said, this is the best defensive

1228
00:59:26,120 --> 00:59:29,000
Speaker 1: player I have ever played again, and Armando was able

1229
00:59:29,040 --> 00:59:32,560
Speaker 1: to parlay that into getting in. So there's different mechanisms

1230
00:59:32,600 --> 00:59:34,680
Speaker 1: that can be used to show the greatness of Tony Boselli.

1231
00:59:34,760 --> 00:59:37,120
Speaker 1: And I just hope this presenter take advantage of all

1232
00:59:37,200 --> 00:59:38,960
Speaker 1: that is out there to get them in and works

1233
00:59:39,000 --> 00:59:41,400
Speaker 1: hand in hand with Tad Dickman and his award winning

1234
00:59:41,440 --> 00:59:44,080
Speaker 1: media relations staff to be able to get some information

1235
00:59:44,320 --> 00:59:46,280
Speaker 1: that would be able to help tell the Tony's canvasy

1236
00:59:46,560 --> 00:59:48,560
Speaker 1: just flip on the tape of the Bruce Smith game yeah,

1237
00:59:48,600 --> 00:59:51,440
Speaker 1: that that might be a good starter. Exactly right, you

1238
00:59:51,480 --> 00:59:53,240
Speaker 1: know what I mean, things like this, go how about

1239
00:59:53,280 --> 00:59:55,680
Speaker 1: this called Bruce Smith? Hey, Bruce, what was it about

1240
00:59:55,680 --> 00:59:58,400
Speaker 1: Tony Boselli that made him so great? Bruce? Is not

1241
00:59:58,840 --> 01:00:01,120
Speaker 1: things like this that that you know, can help get

1242
01:00:01,160 --> 01:00:03,560
Speaker 1: the guy in. I've heard Bruce is not so open

1243
01:00:03,640 --> 01:00:08,840
Speaker 1: to discussing that football game though. Alex twists are man

1244
01:00:08,920 --> 01:00:11,520
Speaker 1: twists are? That's it? An Tony to his house. He's

1245
01:00:11,520 --> 01:00:14,520
Speaker 1: still an imposing figure. He'd block him again. Um, hey,

1246
01:00:14,600 --> 01:00:17,560
Speaker 1: what about Thursday night football? Jacks Titans? So you got quickly?

1247
01:00:18,360 --> 01:00:20,200
Speaker 1: I got the Titans. I mean, I just think, and

1248
01:00:20,240 --> 01:00:21,720
Speaker 1: I don't want to say that the game means more

1249
01:00:21,760 --> 01:00:23,480
Speaker 1: to them. It does mean more to them. Not that

1250
01:00:23,520 --> 01:00:25,640
Speaker 1: this Jacks team won't be fired up, but I just

1251
01:00:25,840 --> 01:00:27,680
Speaker 1: it's a short week and listen, look at look at

1252
01:00:27,720 --> 01:00:30,080
Speaker 1: the results on Thursday night football, by the way, and

1253
01:00:30,280 --> 01:00:32,720
Speaker 1: you know, just look at their home results, and I

1254
01:00:32,800 --> 01:00:35,320
Speaker 1: think it answers your question. Obviously we have an anomaly

1255
01:00:35,360 --> 01:00:37,880
Speaker 1: here and they're like Denver Arizona. But by and large,

1256
01:00:37,920 --> 01:00:40,040
Speaker 1: if tho teams are equal, the home team wins. I

1257
01:00:40,160 --> 01:00:42,280
Speaker 1: go with the home team. And you know, the Titans

1258
01:00:42,320 --> 01:00:44,000
Speaker 1: have been so erratic this year, but I think they

1259
01:00:44,040 --> 01:00:46,160
Speaker 1: can get it together. And look, the Jacks have passed

1260
01:00:46,320 --> 01:00:49,160
Speaker 1: for I believe the net yardage total is somewhere around

1261
01:00:49,200 --> 01:00:51,720
Speaker 1: three hundred yards in the past three games, if I'm

1262
01:00:51,720 --> 01:00:53,720
Speaker 1: not mistaken and trying to do that on the road,

1263
01:00:53,800 --> 01:00:55,680
Speaker 1: and when a short week with a quarterback who hasn't

1264
01:00:55,680 --> 01:00:57,200
Speaker 1: had a whole heck of a lot of practice. I

1265
01:00:57,280 --> 01:00:59,480
Speaker 1: know Leonard for Nette is back, but then the Jacks

1266
01:00:59,560 --> 01:01:01,680
Speaker 1: get something done in the air because the Titans will

1267
01:01:01,720 --> 01:01:03,600
Speaker 1: score a few points. I just don't think it happens.

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Speaker 1: I think the Titans win. Alex. We can always count

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Speaker 1: on your butt. It's always great to talk with you,

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Speaker 1: and let's do it again soon. Appreciate your time, shameless Plug,

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Speaker 1: You're real quick. Tune in midnight to two a m.

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Speaker 1: Friday morning after the Jack Titans gave durious X of

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Speaker 1: NFL Radio. If you want to join me for the

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Speaker 1: postgame show on Channel eight, I am welcome to hear

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Speaker 1: you in Jack's fans. I know if you want someone

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Speaker 1: to yell at if you guys win and you can

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Speaker 1: yell at me for picking the loss, feel free join

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Speaker 1: us here on Channel eight on Friday, the ratings will

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Speaker 1: be through the roof after the Jags in Nashville. Thank

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Speaker 1: you Alex. Alex Marvez Sirius XM radio host, one of

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Speaker 1: the best in the business man. Always good to have

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Speaker 1: him on our Thanks to all our guests today, Chad Johnson,

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Speaker 1: Senior VP of Sales and Service for the Jacksonville Jaguars,

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Speaker 1: Mike Florio Pro Football Talk took some time out today,

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Speaker 1: Paul Kaharsky from Nashville one oh four point five FM

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Speaker 1: and Paul Karski dot Com. Of course, Alex Marvez. Our

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Speaker 1: thanks to Linda Fortunato for stepping in today, coming all

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Speaker 1: the way down here to punch this show. Brent Reaver

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Speaker 1: as well, Ashland Sullivan, Max Hawkman, Joe Fortunato, Dave de Candice,

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Speaker 1: Patrick Kavanaugh, our entire crew. I'm JP Shatterck. Thank you

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Speaker 1: for watching. Enjoy Thursday Night football Tomorrow the public Tellgate

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Speaker 1: Show at five thirty on tinton XL Radio and on

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