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Six out of ten sp 19 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 1: sectors are lower, led by losses and energy, Utilities and technology, 20 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 1: healthcare and consumer discretionary lead down, transports drop nineteen, as 21 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:18,120 Speaker 1: a biotex rise forty four, and the vix is lower 22 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:21,319 Speaker 1: by two percent down. Leaders to the upside included DuPont, 23 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:24,319 Speaker 1: J and J and Caterpillar, while x On Mobile and 24 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:28,119 Speaker 1: Chevron led to the down side. Look for Brockcalm treport 25 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 1: after the bell Live from the First Breaking News Desk 26 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 1: on Bill Maloney. Charlie, all right, thank you, Bill, and 27 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 1: here live breaking news over your Bloomberg type squawksqu a 28 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:39,840 Speaker 1: w K on your terminal. I'm Charlie Pellot. That's a 29 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 1: Bloomberg business flash. Ju're listening to taking Stock with pim 30 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 1: Box and Jathlene Hayes on Bloomberg Radio. Some big forces 31 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 1: have come together to lay the groundwork for the growth 32 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 1: of a very interesting company. One part of it, you 33 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 1: could say, is the all the cutbacks in retail bankruptcy 34 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 1: is a very rapidly disrupted and changing space. Another part 35 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:11,120 Speaker 1: of it is half the states the United States allowing 36 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:15,079 Speaker 1: some kind of legalized marijuana now, and with all that 37 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 1: marijuana production, where are you going to warehouse it? Where 38 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 1: are you going to put it? Enter Calex Development. Don 39 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 1: Sandoval joins me, now she's a CEO ce O O 40 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 1: of Klex. She's here in our New York studio to 41 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 1: talk to us about the real estate side of this business. 42 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:34,680 Speaker 1: Don welcome, Thank you. Kathleen's a pleasure to be here. So, 43 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 1: first of all, Calix Calex Development, what do you do? So? 44 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 1: Calex is in the midst of building a national portfolio 45 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:47,639 Speaker 1: of cannabis properties. We are the only cannabis reat currently 46 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:52,960 Speaker 1: and we have a six property portfolio concentrated out west. 47 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 1: We have three properties in Colorado, one in Washington, and 48 00:02:56,480 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 1: one in Oregon. We're in the midst of closing on 49 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 1: our six property in Phoenix, Arizona in about two weeks time. 50 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 1: And you've just launched your second private round of funding. Uh, 51 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:08,119 Speaker 1: so you're getting a lot of support in an industry 52 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:10,960 Speaker 1: that is maybe exploding is too strong of a word, 53 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 1: but boy, it's growing fast. No, Kathleen, I would not 54 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:16,680 Speaker 1: say exploding is uh is too aggressive a term. I 55 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 1: mean the fact of the matter is, UH, compound growth 56 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 1: rates at a sales level are north of thirty over 57 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:26,240 Speaker 1: the last three years and expected to only accelerate from 58 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 1: here on out. And what Calix is trying to do 59 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:34,240 Speaker 1: is really partner with some of the most established, well financed, 60 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 1: well backed companies in the business right now. We provide 61 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 1: not only space, but on a select basis, we provide 62 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:47,840 Speaker 1: tenant improvement funding so that operators may build out their 63 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 1: space in a fashion that's more appropriate for them. Who 64 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 1: is your typical client, Who is your typical customer? Who 65 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 1: are you doing business? But give us an example. Sure, 66 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 1: our typical tenant is in a established brand in the 67 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 1: cannabis industry. They can produce products for both medical or 68 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 1: recreational markets, or they can be a grow operation. So, 69 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 1: for example, in the Colorado market, both Medicine Man Technologies 70 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 1: and Dixie Brands are two of our tenants. How if 71 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:21,839 Speaker 1: you had not made this this switch in your career, 72 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 1: you might be on the show right now talking about 73 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 1: the bond market and where it's heading next. Because you 74 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:29,799 Speaker 1: were before you left Wall Street, you were a managing 75 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 1: director and fixed income at BNP Para bah Uh. Following 76 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 1: more than fourteen years a b of A and Goldman Sacks. 77 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 1: You began your career at Solomon Brothers. Back what drew 78 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:42,039 Speaker 1: you to marijuana, Well, this is the big change for 79 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:45,480 Speaker 1: you to be the CE of calyx Well Kathleen. It's 80 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:48,839 Speaker 1: about six years ago that I began investing in the 81 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:53,479 Speaker 1: cannabis space, and at that time it was still very 82 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:56,839 Speaker 1: early in terms of a number of companies just getting started. 83 00:04:56,839 --> 00:04:59,359 Speaker 1: It was taking a lot of single name or single 84 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:06,479 Speaker 1: operator risk, and as I progressed in that in that program, 85 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 1: the we came to know Kalix. I came to know 86 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 1: Kalix Development. And what originally attracted me so much to 87 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 1: the Calyx strategy was the fact that it was a 88 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:21,920 Speaker 1: scalable business. Real estate is a scalable business, and it's 89 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 1: also a diverse business that can be well diversified. So 90 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 1: if you look at the Kalix portfolio, not only does 91 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:33,120 Speaker 1: it have diversification across multiple states, but it has diversification 92 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 1: across type of operator. So we have both UH product 93 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 1: manufacturers as well as cultivators among our tenants. And so 94 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 1: from an investment perspective, it's that type of diversification across geography, 95 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 1: across UH tenants, across types of businesses that provides a 96 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 1: good risk buffer. On top of that, the Kalix strategy 97 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:04,600 Speaker 1: is a kurd by bricks and mortar assets. So even 98 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:08,239 Speaker 1: if the cannabis experiment were to be rolled back across 99 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 1: the country. The reality is that these properties can be 100 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 1: repositioned into other uses, and so for our investors, we 101 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:19,919 Speaker 1: believe there's great downside protection in this. Who is your 102 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:24,920 Speaker 1: typical investor in our first friends and family round of funding, 103 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:28,800 Speaker 1: which we closed back in November, Uh, it's really the 104 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:33,839 Speaker 1: high net worth individual family offices. And in the current 105 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 1: round of funding, which we've just launched a couple of 106 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:42,160 Speaker 1: weeks ago. Uh, it's We're still primarily an individual investment. 107 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 1: The industry and the market is not really poised yet, 108 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 1: given that cannabis is still illegal out of federal level 109 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:54,159 Speaker 1: for institutional investors, that's a big complication. In about thirty seconds, 110 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 1: explain why this this federal government position on marijuana still 111 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:01,719 Speaker 1: be an illegal drug. Why that matters so much? Well, 112 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:04,599 Speaker 1: it matters, uh for a number of reasons. Number one, 113 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 1: at least as it relates to real estate. You cannot 114 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:10,560 Speaker 1: hold a traditional mortgage on a property, and how's what 115 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 1: is deemed an illegal business. Uh. It's also problematic from 116 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 1: a banking perspective. Federally chartered banks cannot bank the industry, 117 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 1: so there's a lot of risk around the handling of 118 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:25,560 Speaker 1: the cash in the industry you have. You stick got 119 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 1: half of the states in this country that maybe passing 120 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 1: laws to legalize marijuana. Looks like you've got huge growth 121 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 1: prospects at Klex Development thanks to Don Sandoval. Breaking news 122 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 1: on your Bloomberg. US House Speaker Paul Ryan says he 123 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 1: will vote for Donald Trump. I'm Katheen Hayes. This is 124 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:48,160 Speaker 1: taking stock on Bloomberg Radio Bloomberg. Taking Stock is brought 125 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 1: to you by National Realty Returns on cash in rented 126 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 1: real estate. Find them at n r I, a dot 127 00:07:56,800 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 1: net