1 00:00:05,960 --> 00:00:16,440 Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. A miracle, a miracle, nine 2 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:23,520 Speaker 1: year old Charlotte Charlotte Senna has been found alive. 3 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:26,480 Speaker 2: I'm Nancy Grace. This is Crime Stories. 4 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 1: Thank you for being with us here at Foxination and 5 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:37,199 Speaker 1: Serious XM one eleven. Actually that's the story. Charlotte is alive. 6 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:39,240 Speaker 1: But who, what, where? 7 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 2: Why? When? Take a listen to this. 8 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:44,840 Speaker 3: Just an incredible end to this two day long search. 9 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:48,000 Speaker 3: It was about six forty five Eastern when we started 10 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:51,800 Speaker 3: to notice see police troopers leaving here where they have 11 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 3: been searching with their lights going peeling out of here. 12 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 3: And then we got confirmation from the New York State 13 00:00:57,280 --> 00:00:59,959 Speaker 3: Police that nine year old Charlotte Senna has. 14 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:03,280 Speaker 2: Been found alive. They do have a suspect in custody. 15 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 4: The case started to break at four twenty am this morning. 16 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 5: When the family's home that was being guarded by state police, 17 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:20,240 Speaker 5: when the parents were still starting another day at the 18 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 5: campsite where they'd last seen their daughter. 19 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:27,320 Speaker 4: Four am, the car pulls up to a mailbox. 20 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 5: Something is left. State police immediately go to the mailbox 21 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 5: and identify what is a ransom note that it left 22 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 5: behind for Charlotte. 23 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 1: You're hearing not only our friends at NBC, but a 24 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 1: presser regarding the discovery of this nine year old little 25 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 1: girl found in a cabinet in a camper inhabited by 26 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 1: the kidnapper. Again, thank you for being with us. Without 27 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 1: any further ado, let me go straight to the scene. 28 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 1: Joining me right now, Chris Everhart joining us from Fox 29 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 1: News Digital. Chris, thank you for being with us. What happened? 30 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:16,520 Speaker 1: Tell me everything so question. The police were staking out 31 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:19,960 Speaker 1: Charlotte's home while her parents were still at the camp 32 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 1: out scene, and that is when they did they observe 33 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:26,360 Speaker 1: someone come and put something in the mailbox. 34 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:28,240 Speaker 2: What happened on not. 35 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 6: One hundred percent sure if it was the police that 36 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 6: saw it or the neighbors that saw it. I got 37 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:36,520 Speaker 6: coflicting messages from the residents. But yeah, apparently they just 38 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 6: guy put this ransom note in the mailbox, and they. 39 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:43,079 Speaker 7: Were able to use fingerprints and hit back to. 40 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:46,079 Speaker 6: A late nineties Dui and that's how they were able 41 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 6: to identify on about four to twenty in the morning. 42 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:49,639 Speaker 7: He dropped that. 43 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 2: Off four twenty a m. 44 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 1: In the morning, and that's just the beginning of the 45 00:02:56,520 --> 00:02:59,800 Speaker 1: search that led to Charlotte alive. 46 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:05,520 Speaker 5: Listen State police worked diligently trying to find a match 47 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:06,399 Speaker 5: for a fingerprint. 48 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 4: First one tried wasn't successful. 49 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 5: Second one was to identify any other prince in the 50 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 5: New York State database that. 51 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 4: Would be a match. The hit came at two thirty 52 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:20,640 Speaker 4: in the afternoon. There had been. 53 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:26,360 Speaker 5: A DWI nineteen ninety nine in the city of Saratoga. 54 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:29,239 Speaker 4: A fingerprint was found. 55 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 5: That matched what was found on the ransom note. So 56 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 5: the more research work identify the location and identifying the 57 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 5: fact that there was a hall that could visit. They 58 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 5: found a double wide house with a woman who suspect's mother. 59 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 5: Suspect lived in the camphor behind. 60 00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 1: What we're learning, this nine year old little girl was 61 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 1: found in a cabinet in a camper van owned by 62 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 1: the kidnapper. His name Craig Ross Junior, aged forty seven. 63 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 1: We believe he left a ransom note in the parents' mailbox. 64 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 1: What does that mean? Had he been staking them out, 65 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 1: had he been stalking this little girl or did he 66 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 1: just see her at the campsite and get the home 67 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:28,560 Speaker 1: address out of her That triggered a swat helicopter rescue. 68 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 1: Before I go to an all star panel, I'm going 69 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 1: to go back to Chris Eberhart joining us from Fox 70 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 1: News Digital. Tell me about the rescue, Chris. 71 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:37,160 Speaker 7: It was this pretty wild eye. 72 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 6: I talked to a resident so the street that he's 73 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:42,720 Speaker 6: actually on, it's called Brett Road, that was blocked off, 74 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:45,040 Speaker 6: but right outside of there there was a few homes 75 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 6: and I talked to one of the residents and they 76 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:51,120 Speaker 6: started noticing cops just kind of idling a couple blocks 77 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:53,279 Speaker 6: over from their house, and it was like two or 78 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:55,280 Speaker 6: three and then all of a sudden, an ambulance started 79 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 6: coming up. Then they sold chopper, and then all of 80 00:04:57,440 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 6: a sudden, a whole bunch of law enforcement vehicle started 81 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 6: rolling through their neighborhood. 82 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:03,600 Speaker 7: And they at that point, they didn't even have to 83 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:04,160 Speaker 7: check the news. 84 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:06,840 Speaker 6: They knew that, you know, Charlotte had to be close by, 85 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:08,240 Speaker 6: and this was all connected to that. 86 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 1: Okay, hold on, Chris Aberhart, you're giving me a lot 87 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 1: of information at once. Slowly tell me again what you 88 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 1: know about the rescue. What time do the rescue go down. 89 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 6: Rescue went down sometime in the evening, around maybe six 90 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:23,000 Speaker 6: seven o'clock. 91 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:25,920 Speaker 1: So it sounds like a convergence of swat police cars 92 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:30,920 Speaker 1: overhead helicopters. Tell me again, really slowly, and you're learning 93 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 1: this from neighbors. 94 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:34,719 Speaker 6: Yes, there was a couple of neighbors that were in 95 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 6: the area that spoke to me real late last night 96 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 6: and they said that they started slowly seeing a larger 97 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:43,280 Speaker 6: and larger police presidence. 98 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:44,479 Speaker 7: There was a couple. 99 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:47,920 Speaker 6: Idling cops in the area, not really doing much. They 100 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 6: thought it was out of the norm, but they didn't 101 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 6: really think much of it. Then an ambulance came by 102 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 6: really around the same area. Then later that evening. That's 103 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 6: when they don't remember the exact with time, but there 104 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:05,239 Speaker 6: was a lot of law enforcement vehicles rolling through the area, 105 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 6: which is fun. 106 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 2: Like that spot Joining me right now. 107 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 1: Former Federal Task Force Officer for the us DJ formerly 108 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:18,040 Speaker 1: with the DEA and the Miami Field Division, now owner 109 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 1: and operator of Crispin Special Investigations at Crispin Investigations dot com. 110 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:28,840 Speaker 1: Focus on former Federal Task Force Officer Robert Crispin. How 111 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 1: did this thing? I know, you heard everything that Christopher 112 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:36,360 Speaker 1: Eberhart just said, Interpret it for me. Decipher what the 113 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:39,159 Speaker 1: police were doing. Did you hear the neighbors say it 114 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:43,800 Speaker 1: started off very quietly with cops blocking off either end 115 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 1: of the street and slowly, slowly, very quietly, in the 116 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:51,560 Speaker 1: dark of the evening, gathering forces and then bam, all 117 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 1: of a sudden, there's the helicopter overhead, there's swat, there's crazy, chaotic, 118 00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:59,360 Speaker 1: shambolic proceedings going down. 119 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 2: Explain what were they. 120 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:05,040 Speaker 8: Doing so, Nancy, the note was the beginning of the 121 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 8: end to rescue this girl. And it's super glue to 122 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 8: the rescue. And what do I mean by that? Because 123 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 8: that note was put into a fish tank type environment 124 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 8: in a lab slowed down. 125 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 1: Hold on the note, the ransom note, right that we 126 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 1: believe the perp left in the family's mailbox. 127 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 2: This is important. 128 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 1: Remember the girl is swiped, kidnapped from a campground and 129 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 1: then the note isn't taken to the parents' car back 130 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 1: to the campground where we think they are waiting, but 131 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:42,360 Speaker 1: to their home. So he finds out the home address 132 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 1: or had he been stalking the little girl for some time? Okay, 133 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 1: so he goes to the home in the early morning hours. 134 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 1: We think, I think Chris Everhart sent around four to 135 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 1: twenty eight m right or wrong? Chris Everhart correct and 136 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 1: leaves it in their mailbox. Go ahead, you said something 137 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:02,120 Speaker 1: about a fish tank pick it up right there. 138 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 8: So in a lab, especially when you have ransom notes, 139 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 8: you have notes that people leave when they're robbing a bank, 140 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:11,440 Speaker 8: you can take that note, which is paper, and you 141 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 8: can put it into a fish tank type environment in 142 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 8: the lab and then good o' super glue. The vapors 143 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 8: as they start to evaporate, will circle through the tank 144 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 8: and those will actually start to react and attached to 145 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 8: the organic compounds of the fingerprint residue in the moisture 146 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 8: and lo and behold, a print will start to appear, 147 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 8: which will then allow forensic investigators to take high resolution 148 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 8: photographs of that fingerprint and compare it in a system 149 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 8: called APHIS. Aphis is a nationally recognized and a national 150 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:54,440 Speaker 8: database of everyone's fingerprints that's been arrested. And this is 151 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 8: how this systematically started to break down, and they were 152 00:08:57,520 --> 00:09:01,680 Speaker 8: able to get a hit from the nineteen NINETYUY. Once 153 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:04,720 Speaker 8: they had that, once they knew who it was, then 154 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:08,080 Speaker 8: they started going into locating where does that person live? 155 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 8: Immediately and I'm telling you, Nancy, from doing these types 156 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:16,319 Speaker 8: of cases, within thirty minutes, that house was surrounded by 157 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:21,960 Speaker 8: undercovers initiating surveillance and then the rest systematically started to 158 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 8: come together as they put a rescue team together. Now 159 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:28,200 Speaker 8: we don't know what they saw when they were doing 160 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 8: undercover surveillants there, but I guarantee you there was an 161 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 8: undercover surveunts team at that location once they identified and 162 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:36,720 Speaker 8: had their manage. 163 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 1: Okay, So it goes from getting the ransom note, putting 164 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:44,079 Speaker 1: the note as you say, and you know, everybody's wearing gloves, 165 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:47,200 Speaker 1: and picking it up with twezers. That's real what you 166 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:50,319 Speaker 1: see on TV and in movies, that's real. You pick 167 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 1: it up with tweezers because even with a glove on, 168 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:56,440 Speaker 1: you could smear a print. 169 00:09:56,880 --> 00:09:59,040 Speaker 2: You don't want that. You don't want to get your 170 00:09:59,040 --> 00:09:59,560 Speaker 2: print on it. 171 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:01,199 Speaker 1: So you were gloves, but you don't want to smear 172 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 1: the print that's already on it if the perp didn't 173 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 1: think to wear gloves. So you pick it up with sweezers, 174 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:10,040 Speaker 1: and you put it, as you hear Christmas say, into 175 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:15,079 Speaker 1: a fish tank environment. Now, and what I've seen is 176 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:19,000 Speaker 1: it is a glass so the scientists can see what's happening, 177 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:22,560 Speaker 1: but they put a top on let's just call it 178 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:25,679 Speaker 1: the fish tank, so those fumes. 179 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:26,840 Speaker 2: Don't go out into the room. 180 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 1: You need to keep it in the tank so it 181 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 1: will begin circulating. As you see, let's just say, smoke 182 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:35,840 Speaker 1: from a fire or a cigarette begins to circulate in 183 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:39,960 Speaker 1: the room. It does that, and right there, right there, 184 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:44,720 Speaker 1: Robert Crispin, the fumes from the superglue, the chemical in 185 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 1: those fumes attached to what. 186 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:50,320 Speaker 8: It attached to, the moisture in the organic compounds of 187 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:51,440 Speaker 8: a fingerprint residue. 188 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 1: So they attach immediately to the oils. As he's saying, 189 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 1: the organic compounds. No matter how dry you think your 190 00:10:58,040 --> 00:11:01,920 Speaker 1: hands are, the oil in your hands leave a fingerprint. 191 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:05,839 Speaker 1: That's what leaves the fingerprint. It attaches to that. I 192 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:08,320 Speaker 1: don't know why. I'm not a scientist, but I know 193 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:12,920 Speaker 1: what happens. Then once it attaches, then what happens, Chrispin. 194 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:16,840 Speaker 8: Then there's high resolution photographs that can take a picture 195 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:21,559 Speaker 8: of that print and that can get inputed into APIs, 196 00:11:22,120 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 8: which is which is the biometric database in the world 197 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 8: containing fingerprints from all kinds of criminal histories of everybody 198 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:33,640 Speaker 8: in the US, almost like a DNA database. 199 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:52,559 Speaker 1: Time Stories with Nancy Grace Chris Everhart joining us Foxty's 200 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:55,160 Speaker 1: Digital along with the licensed to redshut Crime Online dot 201 00:11:55,160 --> 00:11:57,200 Speaker 1: com the first time they tried to get a match, 202 00:11:57,280 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 1: it didn't work. 203 00:11:58,120 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 2: What happened, Chris. 204 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:01,960 Speaker 9: Everheart the first time they couldn't get a match. That 205 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:05,679 Speaker 9: I'm not one hundred percent sure. Well, I'm sorry about that. 206 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:08,840 Speaker 9: All I can know is that the dui from the 207 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:10,240 Speaker 9: nineteen ninety nine one. 208 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 1: It's okay because the reality is they did get a match. 209 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 1: And there's a lot of explanations why they may not 210 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:19,080 Speaker 1: have gotten a match the first time, and it doesn't matter. 211 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:23,200 Speaker 1: Give me an example, Robert Crispin there, you cannot get 212 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:26,320 Speaker 1: a match the first time, that's no big deal because 213 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 1: they got it the second time. 214 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 10: So listen. 215 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:30,559 Speaker 8: So we don't know how many people touch this note 216 00:12:30,559 --> 00:12:34,679 Speaker 8: before it got to the lab, so they may they 217 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:37,880 Speaker 8: may have tried to do a print comparison with two 218 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:41,400 Speaker 8: different prints that were on the note, one being the 219 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:44,439 Speaker 8: neighbor or the cop who handed the note to the technician, 220 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 8: because he wasn't wearing gloves and now we have to 221 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:49,280 Speaker 8: do his fingerprints to do a comparison to discount him. 222 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 1: There's a million reasons, but the reality is they got 223 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:56,640 Speaker 1: the print and they were right because that's where Charlotte was. 224 00:12:57,080 --> 00:13:01,680 Speaker 1: So the fingerprint match was dead on one hundred percent correct. 225 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 2: Listen to this. 226 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:06,120 Speaker 4: They have what they call it dynamic. 227 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:12,720 Speaker 5: Entry, a tactical maneuver, and within the camphor they located 228 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:21,760 Speaker 5: the suspect. After some resistance, the suspect was taken into custody, 229 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 5: and immediately the little girl was found in a cabinet covered. 230 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:31,840 Speaker 5: She was rescued, and she knew she was being rescued. 231 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 5: She knew that she was in safe hands. 232 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:41,480 Speaker 4: Her parents were imediately notified. 233 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:51,840 Speaker 5: Secured At six thirty two this evening, the suspect, forty 234 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:57,320 Speaker 5: seven year old male named Craig Nelson Ross Junior, is 235 00:13:57,360 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 5: still being questioned. 236 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:00,959 Speaker 1: You are hearing more of that press conference from We're 237 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:04,800 Speaker 1: learning a lot of information and you can hear Hutchell 238 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:09,320 Speaker 1: speaking very methodically and very slowly. What can I say? 239 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 1: What should I say? What should I not reveal? At 240 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:17,080 Speaker 1: this juncture. She's being really really careful, Uh, and she 241 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:24,280 Speaker 1: should be Dynamic entry Does that mean, basically, Chris Eberhart, 242 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 1: Fox Digital, they tore the door, They tore the door down, 243 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:32,480 Speaker 1: dynamic entry. That sounds like airbrushing. They tore the place up. 244 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:35,280 Speaker 6: Yeah, that's that's that's That's what I'm hearing is that 245 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 6: it was. 246 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:38,880 Speaker 7: It was a very it was a fourth entry. They 247 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:39,840 Speaker 7: got in there pretty good. 248 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:41,000 Speaker 2: What is it, Chrispin? 249 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 8: The element of surprise was on law enforcement's side, and 250 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 8: it was a dynamic entry with probably some flash bangs 251 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 8: to stun the suspect, give them the opportunity to get 252 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:54,160 Speaker 8: in get him into custody before he could go for 253 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 8: a weapon, because his world was coming to and end 254 00:14:56,520 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 8: as soon as they came through that door. 255 00:14:57,920 --> 00:15:02,240 Speaker 2: Man, you're not kidding, and it should right now. 256 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:05,360 Speaker 1: We believe there is a charge of kidnapping that can 257 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:08,000 Speaker 1: be amended to add other charges. We're waiting to find 258 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 1: out about that. But hey, Robert Crispin, not everybody lives 259 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:13,720 Speaker 1: in our world. What do you mean by flash bang? 260 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 8: So flash bangs are a cercussion device that are thrown 261 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 8: into a building and it's a very loud explosion, one 262 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:25,560 Speaker 8: hundred m m eight fireworks going off, and it literally 263 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:29,720 Speaker 8: the flash in the sound stuns you and you just breeze. 264 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:32,800 Speaker 8: That gives law enforcement the edge of the element of 265 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:33,960 Speaker 8: surprise to take you. 266 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:37,560 Speaker 1: Down to Franci Hakes joining me, former federal prosecutor, first 267 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:41,960 Speaker 1: ever National coordinator for child exploitation. You can find her 268 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 1: at Franciheaks dot com. Francie, long time, no here, but 269 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:51,040 Speaker 1: we need you now way in Francie, Well Nanpy. 270 00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:56,160 Speaker 11: This is such an incredible relief, and it really illustrates 271 00:15:56,400 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 11: the power of law enforcement. When everyone, state and local 272 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:05,400 Speaker 11: are all working together to find one little nine year 273 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:08,640 Speaker 11: old girl. That is the very best that this country 274 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 11: has to offer. When a nine year old girl goes missing, 275 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:15,680 Speaker 11: everyone moves heaven and earth to find her. And they 276 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 11: did find her. And Nancy, as you know, as a 277 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:21,600 Speaker 11: former prosecutor, just like me, we don't like to stay 278 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 11: cases or slam dunks. We never like to say that 279 00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:27,600 Speaker 11: because there's almost never really a slam dunk. But that 280 00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:30,720 Speaker 11: little girl was found in his house where he was. 281 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:34,200 Speaker 11: This is a slam dunk case, and I'm relieved to 282 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:34,920 Speaker 11: see it too. 283 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:39,560 Speaker 1: Trace sergeant joining us start to rescue recovery expert PhD 284 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:44,240 Speaker 1: Psychology focusing on criminal profiling. I couldn't help but wonder 285 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 1: about putting the little girl, a little Charlotte in a cabinet. 286 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 1: You know, she didn't go there on her own. 287 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 12: Yes, Ny, and she in this regard when we talk 288 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:58,800 Speaker 12: about a situation like this, in any situation where someone disappears, 289 00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:02,400 Speaker 12: particularly if their females. We look at the victimology of 290 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:06,480 Speaker 12: that individual. Her being a nine year old female alone 291 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 12: put her at the highest risk of victimology. And in 292 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:15,679 Speaker 12: that situation, he saw a crime of opportunity so to speak. 293 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:18,320 Speaker 12: We don't know for sure if he was stalking her, 294 00:17:18,520 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 12: her family, if he knew her and her family, but 295 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:25,800 Speaker 12: the essence is he saw an opportunity, he took advantage 296 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 12: of it. He also understands that he is committing a crime, 297 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:33,280 Speaker 12: a very serious crime, and he doesn't want to get caught. 298 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:36,159 Speaker 12: So how does he prevent from getting caught. He hides 299 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:39,159 Speaker 12: the evidence, so to speak. In this case, it is 300 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:42,840 Speaker 12: the little girl, Charlotte, and hiding her in the cabinet, 301 00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:46,760 Speaker 12: either from his mother or from others, or even keeping 302 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:50,600 Speaker 12: her in a contained environment where she can't escape. Maybe 303 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 12: she tried to get away, we don't know. So that 304 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:58,480 Speaker 12: provides a lot of situations, goals, and objectives for him 305 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 12: to hide her, paying her, and to keep from his 306 00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:03,479 Speaker 12: crime being found. 307 00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:04,680 Speaker 2: Now very curious. 308 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:07,040 Speaker 1: We know that there's a kidnapping charge right now, we 309 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:09,520 Speaker 1: don't know if other charges are going to be added. 310 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:12,919 Speaker 1: I also have been told that the parents do not 311 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:17,160 Speaker 1: want her health information to be released. 312 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:19,199 Speaker 2: What does that mean? It could be a lot. I 313 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:21,080 Speaker 2: want to go back very quickly. Scott A. 314 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:25,600 Speaker 1: Johnson joining me forensic psychologist thirty two years specializing in 315 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:30,520 Speaker 1: addressing preductors just like this at Forensic Consultation dot org. 316 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:34,399 Speaker 1: Scott Johnson, thank you for being with us. Quick question 317 00:18:34,520 --> 00:18:37,080 Speaker 1: to Alexis tereshut crime online dot com before I go 318 00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:43,399 Speaker 1: to Scott Alexis, do we know whether Charlotte was clothed 319 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:46,720 Speaker 1: or unclothed at the time she was rescued. 320 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:49,120 Speaker 13: The police have not said what she was wearing when 321 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:51,119 Speaker 13: she was rescued. They have only said she was locked 322 00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:53,040 Speaker 13: in a cabinet, which and. 323 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:54,720 Speaker 12: She's She's a tall girl. 324 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:57,239 Speaker 13: She is five feet tall. She's only nine years old, 325 00:18:57,280 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 13: but she's five feet tall. She's ninety pound, which is 326 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:01,840 Speaker 13: nothing at all. 327 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:02,600 Speaker 12: But she is tall. 328 00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:06,320 Speaker 13: So imagine this tall girl stuck inside a cabinet in 329 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:10,119 Speaker 13: a trailer which cannot possibly have something too big. But 330 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:12,040 Speaker 13: you know, this was only I want to point out 331 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:15,159 Speaker 13: this was less than twenty miles away from where she 332 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:18,680 Speaker 13: was taken. It's in the Moroa Lake State Park. Milton 333 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:21,920 Speaker 13: is only seventeen miles south of there, so he did 334 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:24,359 Speaker 13: not take her very far, So it was not far 335 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:26,440 Speaker 13: for him to go up there to capture her and 336 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:28,480 Speaker 13: snatch her away from her family. It's like a local 337 00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:29,160 Speaker 13: park for him. 338 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:33,440 Speaker 1: That's a really good point, Alexis Terestchuk Chris Eberhart Fox 339 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:36,440 Speaker 1: Day's digital twenty. 340 00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:38,640 Speaker 2: Miles from Moreau State Park. 341 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 1: But how far was his camper that he's got part 342 00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:43,959 Speaker 1: in the back of his mom's place? 343 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:47,080 Speaker 2: How far was it from the family home? 344 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:49,240 Speaker 7: Between ken and fifteen miles? 345 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:53,480 Speaker 6: It was closed And actually I think I think from 346 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:56,960 Speaker 6: what I've seen and heard before, I think she's seen 347 00:19:57,040 --> 00:19:59,720 Speaker 6: him before in the neighborhood or something, so there was 348 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:01,720 Speaker 6: a a little bit of familiarity. 349 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:06,080 Speaker 1: Wow, that's the first I'm hearing that. Okay, tell me 350 00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:09,080 Speaker 1: what you know about that. And we understand that this 351 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:12,199 Speaker 1: may change, it may not be correct right now. I 352 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 1: know that you're getting information from neighbors and relatives and 353 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:17,840 Speaker 1: your ends at the police force. 354 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:18,479 Speaker 2: I get it. 355 00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:22,320 Speaker 1: But are you telling me that she thought there's a 356 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:27,359 Speaker 1: chance that she thought she recognized him from her neighborhood. 357 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:29,480 Speaker 7: Right, And I'm glad you clarified that. 358 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 6: Again, this is nothing official from police or anything. 359 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:35,880 Speaker 7: Like that, but there was some talk that she had. 360 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:39,840 Speaker 6: Seen him before, but again that's unconfirmed from anybody else. 361 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:42,520 Speaker 7: But it would be interesting because. 362 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:45,240 Speaker 6: When you go that area where she was from Loop A, 363 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:49,080 Speaker 6: in that park, it's very close to the street and 364 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:53,119 Speaker 6: that it's only separated by a very small amount of 365 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:55,639 Speaker 6: grass and then a fence that you can literally just 366 00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:58,720 Speaker 6: step over. So the curious thing is that she did 367 00:20:58,880 --> 00:20:59,440 Speaker 6: know him. 368 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 7: Maybe he went. 369 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:02,760 Speaker 6: Over closer to the fence where it was easier for 370 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:04,920 Speaker 6: him to get or did he jump over the fence. 371 00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:07,439 Speaker 10: We don't know, but again that was the theory that. 372 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:10,840 Speaker 6: Some of the residents were pointing out, and especially given 373 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:12,359 Speaker 6: the close proximity. 374 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:15,440 Speaker 1: Loop A, close to the street, just separated by grass, 375 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:17,439 Speaker 1: and like, what a chain link fence. 376 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:19,720 Speaker 7: It's not even a chain link fence. It's hard to describe. 377 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:24,439 Speaker 7: It's like a it's a rusted, very brittle metal type fence. 378 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:26,679 Speaker 6: And I mean, if I wanted to, I could just 379 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:29,000 Speaker 6: step on it and it would just crush underneath me. 380 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:30,320 Speaker 2: So how tall is the fence? 381 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:33,640 Speaker 6: It took me maybe about fifteen steps from the road to. 382 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:34,240 Speaker 7: Get that fence. 383 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:35,720 Speaker 2: How tall is the fence. 384 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:38,600 Speaker 7: Came up to right about my chest, a little lower 385 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:39,120 Speaker 7: than my chest. 386 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:42,199 Speaker 1: Okay, gotcha, gotcha. I'm trying to figure out Scott A. 387 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:48,160 Speaker 1: Johnson joining me, forensic psychologist, how close the defendant lived 388 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:52,360 Speaker 1: to her and I'm understanding that was about ten miles 389 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:56,480 Speaker 1: and Jackie's showing me a note that the home was 390 00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:58,320 Speaker 1: about thirty minutes to the camp site. 391 00:21:58,359 --> 00:21:59,240 Speaker 2: Is that what you're saying? 392 00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:04,320 Speaker 1: So, now that we hear from Chris Everhart, unconfirmed reports 393 00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 1: she may have seen this guy in the neighborhood, not 394 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:10,520 Speaker 1: to know him, but to see him like I would 395 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:13,560 Speaker 1: know the grocery store checkout guy or woman. I would 396 00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:16,720 Speaker 1: know them because I see them all the time. That 397 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:19,160 Speaker 1: doesn't mean I know a lot about them. I might 398 00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:22,520 Speaker 1: remember their name from their tag on their shirt. But 399 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:26,840 Speaker 1: that type of familiarity that may play into this. And 400 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:28,920 Speaker 1: it's very hard for me to believe in anybody on. 401 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:30,520 Speaker 2: The panel jump in. 402 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:33,800 Speaker 1: It's very hard for me to believe that he lived 403 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:38,359 Speaker 1: the defendant lived fifteen ten to fifteen minutes away from 404 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:42,720 Speaker 1: her home and he had never seen her before that. 405 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:46,320 Speaker 1: He just happened, Like Anela and Haystack, this happened to 406 00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:49,320 Speaker 1: be the same girl he kidnaps at a campsite. 407 00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:53,080 Speaker 14: No correct, he likely has seen her in the neighborhood 408 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:57,560 Speaker 14: and the opportunity presented itself where he could have duct her. 409 00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:02,000 Speaker 14: But this was something in the making. Likely already had 410 00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:04,919 Speaker 14: planned to take her. He likely already knew where he 411 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:09,240 Speaker 14: would take her. And so when we catch these people, 412 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:12,359 Speaker 14: there's usually that element of, you know, the planning that 413 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:18,080 Speaker 14: comes out. You know that this wasn't just a happenstance victim. 414 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:21,199 Speaker 14: This was someone that they had seen in the community 415 00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:26,159 Speaker 14: and had already developed sexual fantasies for and or the 416 00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:27,760 Speaker 14: possibility for ransom. 417 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:32,960 Speaker 1: Guys, I'm just very curious. Scott Johnson joining me, forensic psychologist. 418 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:36,760 Speaker 1: This is rare for us that we actually get a 419 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:44,399 Speaker 1: stranger on stranger child kidnapping resolved with the child alive, alive, 420 00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:48,719 Speaker 1: and I've been besieged with questions. 421 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:52,240 Speaker 2: Was she raped, was she attacked? I don't know the answer. 422 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:55,960 Speaker 1: That, but I know this she survived. 423 00:23:57,240 --> 00:23:58,080 Speaker 2: She survived. 424 00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:03,400 Speaker 1: That hardly ever happens with stranger own stranger child kidnappings. 425 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:07,440 Speaker 1: Scott Johnson, I'd like to get in, if you can, 426 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:10,880 Speaker 1: the mind of the perp that would take a child 427 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:13,159 Speaker 1: with no thought to what it's going to do to 428 00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:16,840 Speaker 1: the family or the child and end up forcing her 429 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:20,600 Speaker 1: into a cabinet. And this guy, I mean it's the 430 00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:24,000 Speaker 1: proverbial guy in his mom's basement. This is a guy 431 00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:27,560 Speaker 1: living in a camper in his forties, forty six years old, 432 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:29,760 Speaker 1: in the back of mommy's yard. 433 00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:32,800 Speaker 14: Right, And so you have someone here who's, if you will, 434 00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:37,359 Speaker 14: psychologically regressed. He's not mature enough to meet people his 435 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:41,200 Speaker 14: own age. He's fantasizing about younger people who he can 436 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:46,280 Speaker 14: more easily control subdue without having to invest a lot of, 437 00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:51,959 Speaker 14: for example, relational communication skills, and so to abduct her 438 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:56,600 Speaker 14: means he's got his wishes fulfilled as far as he 439 00:24:56,680 --> 00:25:02,360 Speaker 14: may not be a child specifically focused on that age 440 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:05,199 Speaker 14: of a victim, but this happened to be the victim 441 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:08,399 Speaker 14: that he found, but someone that he could easily control, 442 00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:13,439 Speaker 14: subdue and then perhaps the secondary game here of trying 443 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:16,320 Speaker 14: to get some money, which obviously money was an issue 444 00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:19,119 Speaker 14: for him living in a trailer around his mommy's lot. 445 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:24,720 Speaker 14: But someone who's very psychologically regressed, and unfortunately, the things 446 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:26,840 Speaker 14: that they could do to their victim in their own 447 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:30,399 Speaker 14: head are you kind of get horrendous. 448 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:32,800 Speaker 1: Guys, you are hearing Scott A. Johnson, what more do 449 00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:34,960 Speaker 1: we know about this guy, Chris Eberhart? Does he have 450 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:39,040 Speaker 1: a job, did he work? Did he function normally? At 451 00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:41,280 Speaker 1: first it came out that he was a sex offender. 452 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:45,680 Speaker 1: That's not true. That must have been a different Craig Ross. 453 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:50,280 Speaker 1: This guy does have a record, thank Heaven. Or we 454 00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:53,440 Speaker 1: may not have had his fingerprint. So there's a lot 455 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:56,239 Speaker 1: swirling right now and we don't know the truth of 456 00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:59,439 Speaker 1: any of it. All we really know is she's alive. 457 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:03,200 Speaker 1: I was in his camper behind his mom's place, which 458 00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:06,439 Speaker 1: leads me to another question. Mommy didn't know there was 459 00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:09,960 Speaker 1: a little girl in the backyard being held in a camper. 460 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:13,000 Speaker 1: So that's a good question. But what more do we 461 00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:15,880 Speaker 1: know about this guy? Chris Eberhart? Or on lexis terrest truck. 462 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:17,040 Speaker 1: Anybody jump in. 463 00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:19,959 Speaker 6: Yes, that's exactly what I'm doing today. I'm actually up 464 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:23,200 Speaker 6: here right now while I'm talking to you. I'm driving 465 00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:26,760 Speaker 6: over to the house right now. It was all blocked 466 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:29,600 Speaker 6: off last night. They had a cop block in that 467 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:32,919 Speaker 6: entrance of the Barrett Road. I also do want to 468 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:36,200 Speaker 6: just let you know, Nancy, I did get a response 469 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:40,280 Speaker 6: back from police and they have said that authorities so 470 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:43,639 Speaker 6: far have found no connection between Ross and the girls 471 00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:46,520 Speaker 6: family doesn't mean that they haven't seen each other in 472 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:47,639 Speaker 6: the neighborhood. 473 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:47,840 Speaker 7: Or something like that. 474 00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:50,880 Speaker 6: But as of right now, the officials is that there 475 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:51,760 Speaker 6: is no connection. 476 00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:54,360 Speaker 1: That's important. Hold on, let me write that down. It's 477 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:59,040 Speaker 1: no connection between him and family. Okay, I get it. 478 00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:02,879 Speaker 1: That doesn't mean he was skulking around her neighborhood, driving around. 479 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:04,760 Speaker 1: We know he's got access to a car. And you 480 00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:08,199 Speaker 1: know what we called it yesterday? She was taken in 481 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:13,800 Speaker 1: a vehicle. Why because dogs did not pick up her scent. 482 00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:20,520 Speaker 1: In addition to search, rescue, recovery, Tracy's sergeant also is 483 00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:23,480 Speaker 1: an expert dog handler. That's how I first met her, 484 00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:25,560 Speaker 1: and I tried to trip her up every way to 485 00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:29,239 Speaker 1: a to Z with her dog. Could the dog find this? 486 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:32,159 Speaker 1: And we did experiments. I did experiments to see if 487 00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:33,760 Speaker 1: I could trip her and her dog up. 488 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:35,800 Speaker 2: Not one worked. 489 00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:38,920 Speaker 1: I tried hiding drugs inside of meat. I tried hiding 490 00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:41,639 Speaker 1: it at different places. I tried drugs in bags. I 491 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:45,200 Speaker 1: tried all sorts of things. The dog never messed up, 492 00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:49,160 Speaker 1: and neither did Tracy. So, Tracy, what do you make 493 00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:51,040 Speaker 1: of what you're just hearing? 494 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:55,320 Speaker 12: When Anty what happened with the dog situation is classic. 495 00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:59,960 Speaker 12: So I have actually worked these very vec scenarios where 496 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:04,679 Speaker 12: where someone disappeared, and in fact, the runaway Bride was 497 00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:07,399 Speaker 12: the one that I worked that came to mind where 498 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:12,479 Speaker 12: my dog tracked her route and then it stopped, and 499 00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:16,200 Speaker 12: I advised the officials that it appears that she got 500 00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:18,800 Speaker 12: into a vehicle here. I don't know if it was 501 00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:23,159 Speaker 12: willingly or unwillingly. So what they did with that particular 502 00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:26,240 Speaker 12: resource in this case a K nine resources, which are 503 00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:30,320 Speaker 12: great resources in these kinds of situations, told them a 504 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:33,760 Speaker 12: lot of things. They told them that listen, she didn't 505 00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:36,320 Speaker 12: get off of her bike to go into the woods 506 00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:39,600 Speaker 12: to use the restroom to throw a rabbit or a butterfly. 507 00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:42,920 Speaker 12: That encouraged her to go into the woods to do 508 00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:46,600 Speaker 12: some exploring, and maybe she fell in her herself. The 509 00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:49,600 Speaker 12: dog told them what they needed to know, and that 510 00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:56,040 Speaker 12: was this is not a innocent situation where this girl 511 00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:59,560 Speaker 12: walked into the woods. It appears by all accounts that 512 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:02,320 Speaker 12: she is than a vehicle, and a nine year old 513 00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:04,960 Speaker 12: in most cases are not going to get in the 514 00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:10,120 Speaker 12: vehicle by themselves, so that increases the danger and the 515 00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:14,280 Speaker 12: safety and the concern level very much in this kind 516 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:17,640 Speaker 12: of situation. So the dog was a great resource that 517 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:20,640 Speaker 12: exactly what they needed to do, gave them the answers 518 00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:24,360 Speaker 12: that the officials need to really transition instead of maybe 519 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:28,560 Speaker 12: a missing lost child to a missing and danger child. 520 00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:31,320 Speaker 1: Or Charlotte being in one of the many bodies of 521 00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:35,840 Speaker 1: water they are at Moro State Park. You're absolutely right 522 00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:39,000 Speaker 1: that trail just ended, which told everybody that it's in 523 00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:41,200 Speaker 1: this business that she was put in the vehicle. 524 00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:43,560 Speaker 2: Is there a connection, take a listen. 525 00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:47,360 Speaker 4: To this was a suspect known to the family. It 526 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:49,680 Speaker 4: has not been determined that the suspect was known in 527 00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:50,160 Speaker 4: the family. 528 00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:57,720 Speaker 13: Okay, well, Charlotte, greater deternament or you know. 529 00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:01,640 Speaker 4: That is what will be revealed as a more extensive questioning. 530 00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:05,800 Speaker 5: The vehicle registered to the suspect. 531 00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:08,240 Speaker 4: The address from the. 532 00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:12,400 Speaker 5: Database was two miles from Charlotte's home, but it is 533 00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:14,720 Speaker 5: not known at this time whether he knew her or 534 00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:16,320 Speaker 5: had her under surveillance for any. 535 00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:16,959 Speaker 4: Length of time. 536 00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:36,080 Speaker 1: Prime Stories with Nancy Grace chrispher Eberhart Foxy's Digital we 537 00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:42,960 Speaker 1: are hearing Hotchel saying that the defendant's home registered in 538 00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:48,680 Speaker 1: the DMV department motor vehicle's database was two one two, 539 00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:52,120 Speaker 1: two miles from Charlotte's home, not ten. 540 00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:54,640 Speaker 2: Have you been saying two? Oh along? I thought you 541 00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:55,120 Speaker 2: said ten. 542 00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:59,920 Speaker 6: Well, the actual address that we're given is between ten 543 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:03,400 Speaker 6: and fifteen, but that trailer is probably it could be closer. 544 00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:07,400 Speaker 1: I understand. I understand the vehicle regiter to the suspect. 545 00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:12,400 Speaker 1: The address in the database was two miles from Charlotte's home. 546 00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:16,520 Speaker 1: Right now, we don't know if the defendant had Charlotte 547 00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:19,680 Speaker 1: or her family under surveillance. The family's saying from our 548 00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:23,560 Speaker 1: sources that there was no connection between them and the defendant. 549 00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:27,760 Speaker 1: What if anything more do we know about the defendant 550 00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:29,680 Speaker 1: the fact that he lives in his mom's backyard in 551 00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:32,960 Speaker 1: the camper. Do we know anything about him having a 552 00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:35,960 Speaker 1: job to Alexis or Chris? What about an Alexis? 553 00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:37,160 Speaker 2: Who is this guy? 554 00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:39,520 Speaker 13: We do not know that he has a job yet 555 00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:42,200 Speaker 13: he as you can see from his mugshot, he has 556 00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:46,040 Speaker 13: a beard and a mustache and unruly hair. You know, 557 00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:47,880 Speaker 13: maybe not a job where he has to go do 558 00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:50,880 Speaker 13: an office every day. But I'm just speculating on that one. 559 00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:53,640 Speaker 13: We have not been told anything, and no coworkers have 560 00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:55,680 Speaker 13: come forward, and also to want to point out his 561 00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:59,680 Speaker 13: mother has not been arrested yet, so she may not 562 00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:02,600 Speaker 13: have known what is going on. She may not have 563 00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:05,240 Speaker 13: seen it, Charlotte, she may not have heard her. She 564 00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:08,560 Speaker 13: obviously didn't call the police to report anything. Because he 565 00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:10,960 Speaker 13: is the only one from the property show far that 566 00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:11,720 Speaker 13: he's been arrested. 567 00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:14,040 Speaker 1: I believe if they thought she had anything to do 568 00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:17,440 Speaker 1: with it or knew about it, that she would be arrested. 569 00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:20,080 Speaker 1: I agree with you, Alexis Terrestrict. You know, I keep asking, 570 00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:22,320 Speaker 1: what do you know about this guy? Has anybody thought 571 00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:26,320 Speaker 1: to mention he has to pass arrest for aggravated harassment 572 00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:31,320 Speaker 1: and criminal obstruction of breathing and see, I had never 573 00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:33,840 Speaker 1: heard of that. I had to look it up. It's 574 00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:36,240 Speaker 1: a New York state penal code law when you have 575 00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:41,600 Speaker 1: struck someone's nose or mouth that is in his history. 576 00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:45,480 Speaker 1: They are arrests. I don't know that they're convictions, but 577 00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:49,880 Speaker 1: he's arrested for those things. Okay, what about it, Chris, 578 00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:50,520 Speaker 1: I jailed. 579 00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:53,160 Speaker 10: You didn't kick me off because I had not heard 580 00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:58,320 Speaker 10: that one before. That's what I'm working on today and 581 00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:01,040 Speaker 10: trying to be together. We know if he did have 582 00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:05,120 Speaker 10: a job, what he was doing, any criminal history, also 583 00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:06,800 Speaker 10: to try to find out if his mom was even 584 00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:08,200 Speaker 10: always the time that. 585 00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:08,840 Speaker 7: We don't know either. 586 00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:09,400 Speaker 2: Guys. 587 00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:14,480 Speaker 1: We're telling you what we're learning now, and it could 588 00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:18,920 Speaker 1: be confirmed or debunked, because at the beginning, isn't this 589 00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:22,800 Speaker 1: two like Sisterestchuk. It was reported everywhere that this guy 590 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:26,080 Speaker 1: was a registered sex offender with two attacks, and I 591 00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:29,720 Speaker 1: believe it was on young boys and that turned out 592 00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:33,880 Speaker 1: to be a completely different maybe same name or same 593 00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:37,280 Speaker 1: variation variation on that name, but it's not this guy. 594 00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:41,280 Speaker 1: But we are learning that this guy has these arrests. 595 00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:42,520 Speaker 1: We think, what. 596 00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:42,920 Speaker 2: Do you know? 597 00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:46,440 Speaker 13: Originally everybody was under the impression that it was a 598 00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:48,640 Speaker 13: man who was fifty one years old, he had an arrest, 599 00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:52,280 Speaker 13: he had been arrested for sexually assaulting young boy, so 600 00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:56,280 Speaker 13: he was a registered sex offender. That is not so far. 601 00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:59,720 Speaker 13: What has been revealed about mister Ross who has been arrested. 602 00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:03,800 Speaker 13: He is forty six. His arrest was for a duy. 603 00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:07,960 Speaker 13: And then you are saying that this criminal breathing now. 604 00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:11,520 Speaker 13: The thing is the police have not revealed that I 605 00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:12,400 Speaker 13: have not seen. 606 00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:14,400 Speaker 1: Those Well, I'll say where it's coming from. It's the 607 00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:17,800 Speaker 1: Sarah Togan The Sarah toogin, which is a news outlet. 608 00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:23,719 Speaker 1: In twenty seventeen, a Craig n Ross was arrested for obstruction. 609 00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:29,080 Speaker 1: At that time he was forty of Corinth was arrested 610 00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:32,600 Speaker 1: in April twenty one charged with criminal obstruction of breathing, 611 00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:37,359 Speaker 1: which is a misdemeanor. Also a Craig n Ross of 612 00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:42,640 Speaker 1: Corinth arrested in twenty sixteen or second degree aggravated harassment. 613 00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:47,040 Speaker 1: Do those dates jive with being this guy Chris Everhart 614 00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:50,440 Speaker 1: if he's forty years old in twenty seventeen, Yeah, the. 615 00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:53,840 Speaker 10: Dates with jibe. Like I said, that's why I'll be 616 00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:57,000 Speaker 10: have little pushes on what we say about him, just 617 00:34:57,040 --> 00:35:00,319 Speaker 10: because we're still piecing it together. I mean, going back 618 00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:02,560 Speaker 10: to what you guys were talking about before, where they 619 00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:05,640 Speaker 10: originally thought it was this fifty one year old sex defender. 620 00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:09,280 Speaker 10: There was a wild circulation on social media because somebody, 621 00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:11,839 Speaker 10: a sex offender, was talking about the. 622 00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:14,640 Speaker 7: Case on I don't know which. 623 00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:18,440 Speaker 10: Social media platform, but that got picked up by a 624 00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:20,840 Speaker 10: lot of places. I don't know if you were controlling 625 00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:23,520 Speaker 10: news outlet. I don't know what he was doing, but 626 00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:27,839 Speaker 10: that's where a lot of that confusion came in. So 627 00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:31,399 Speaker 10: that's why I'm being a little courses and to making 628 00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:33,520 Speaker 10: sure that we need everything accurately. 629 00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:36,879 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, absolutely, But I just want to clarify one 630 00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:39,680 Speaker 1: thing with you, Chris Everheart, Fox News Digital, who is 631 00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:40,960 Speaker 1: actually in his. 632 00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:44,280 Speaker 2: Car right now heading toward the scene. 633 00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:48,040 Speaker 1: You're telling me, and I want to clarify this in 634 00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:51,040 Speaker 1: my own mind because I'm trying to work up a 635 00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:55,680 Speaker 1: scenario of what happened. You're telling me the defendant's home 636 00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:59,680 Speaker 1: is about ten miles from the victim's family home. 637 00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:00,439 Speaker 2: Is that right? 638 00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:02,440 Speaker 10: That's the way that I haven't yet? 639 00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:06,320 Speaker 1: Okay, all right, Hey maybe you know more than the governor. 640 00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:12,200 Speaker 1: That's absolutely possible. Guys, I want to jump forward to 641 00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:15,200 Speaker 1: our cuts, and I want to go to our cuts 642 00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:19,760 Speaker 1: twenty eight and beyond. But first, Franci haiks fifteen minutes, 643 00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:22,759 Speaker 1: fifteen minutes, and Chrispin, I want you to jump in 644 00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:26,479 Speaker 1: on this. After Francie, she was on her bike doing 645 00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:29,560 Speaker 1: one more loop around the campsite. We've been told that 646 00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:33,560 Speaker 1: loop was about one third of a mile. How many 647 00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:38,600 Speaker 1: times Francie have I gone camping r ving with the twins? 648 00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:41,520 Speaker 2: John David always wants to take his bike and. 649 00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:45,480 Speaker 1: He does a loop, one more loop, and usually I 650 00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:48,640 Speaker 1: go out and I walk the loop while he's riding 651 00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:52,800 Speaker 1: his bike. And these are RV parks all over the country. 652 00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:57,240 Speaker 1: But sometimes he would be out of my view. Sometimes 653 00:36:57,280 --> 00:36:59,040 Speaker 1: he would come back around the loop behind me and 654 00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:06,360 Speaker 1: pass me again. In fifteen minutes, she was gone, Francy gone. 655 00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:07,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, Nancy. 656 00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:11,560 Speaker 11: It's a shocking coincidence. But I wonder. It really makes 657 00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:15,600 Speaker 11: me wonder whether he let her on stalking the child. 658 00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:18,560 Speaker 11: Will eventually find out, because I'm sure the police are 659 00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:23,520 Speaker 11: right now exploding all the digital media computers, laptops, iPad 660 00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:25,920 Speaker 11: phones he had at his house to see if there 661 00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:29,040 Speaker 11: are photographs of this child, for example. But he might 662 00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:32,719 Speaker 11: have been just stalking the location, that kind of campsite, 663 00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:35,600 Speaker 11: like you said, you and your kids. Lots of people 664 00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:37,960 Speaker 11: take their children there, so it looks like what we 665 00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:41,720 Speaker 11: would call a target rich environment. So I'm sure police 666 00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:44,880 Speaker 11: right now are doing a forensic Sometimes today we'll be 667 00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:48,719 Speaker 11: doing a forensic interview of that child to find out 668 00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:52,000 Speaker 11: exactly what happened, the kind of things he said, whether 669 00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:54,799 Speaker 11: or not the mother was present, whether he mentioned the 670 00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:58,960 Speaker 11: mother to the child. She is an incredibly valuable witness, 671 00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:01,880 Speaker 11: not just what happened to her, but what she says 672 00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:05,480 Speaker 11: he told her and how he took her, and whether 673 00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:09,000 Speaker 11: she recognized him. But I suspect we may find out 674 00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:14,360 Speaker 11: that there are images of children from that campground, because 675 00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:17,800 Speaker 11: I think he's probably been set up there and waiting 676 00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:20,280 Speaker 11: for the opportunity to snatch a child. 677 00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:22,840 Speaker 2: Okay, Robert Crispin final thought. 678 00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:26,359 Speaker 10: Yeah, I just wanted to go. I thought about real quick. 679 00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:29,680 Speaker 10: I had a you know, I'm coming up from you know, 680 00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:31,800 Speaker 10: like the border of New York City and Wigesson the County. 681 00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:33,839 Speaker 10: So I called up a profile or just to try 682 00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:36,439 Speaker 10: to get his thoughts real quick on the whole case. 683 00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:39,760 Speaker 10: And he thought it was interesting that she would taken 684 00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:43,040 Speaker 10: after her friends left, So maybe he was waiting for 685 00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:46,719 Speaker 10: an opportunity. Maybe he was looking at her and then 686 00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:48,520 Speaker 10: all of a sudden, that last look. 687 00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:49,240 Speaker 7: He did by herself. 688 00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:51,279 Speaker 10: The other ones were in her friends, and then on 689 00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:54,080 Speaker 10: that last loop by herself, and that's when he was taken. 690 00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:56,520 Speaker 10: That was kind of an interesting thing that I've kept 691 00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:57,960 Speaker 10: in the back of my head that he told me. 692 00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:04,360 Speaker 1: Chris, Chris Everhart, you are so right. It's like the hyena. 693 00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:08,560 Speaker 1: Robert Crispin at the watering hole out in the Serengetti 694 00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:13,560 Speaker 1: just waiting for the youngest or the slowest, the most 695 00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:18,000 Speaker 1: infirm gazelle, and then when all the others leave, he 696 00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:22,440 Speaker 1: attacks that one. He waits for just the right moment. 697 00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:23,520 Speaker 1: It's like a jackal. 698 00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:24,040 Speaker 4: Listen. 699 00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:28,480 Speaker 8: The window to grab her was very small, and he 700 00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:31,840 Speaker 8: took it. But a collaboration between local, state, and federal 701 00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:36,279 Speaker 8: officials and technology today solved this case and brought this 702 00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:39,200 Speaker 8: girl home to her family where she can grow up 703 00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:42,040 Speaker 8: and be an amazing woman and have kids and be 704 00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:47,360 Speaker 8: married and just enjoy life. A collaboration of everyone came together. 705 00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:54,640 Speaker 2: All I can say is p t L, Praise the Lord. 706 00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:56,759 Speaker 2: Goodbye Friend 707 00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:00,560 Speaker 14: Nine.