1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:03,680 Speaker 1: They're both good fits. I mean, I think Queen really 2 00:00:03,760 --> 00:00:05,960 Speaker 1: stepped up his game this year, Murray had a better 3 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:08,039 Speaker 1: body of work, and I don't think both will be 4 00:00:08,080 --> 00:00:10,600 Speaker 1: there when the Ravens pick. Maybe one of the two will. 5 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:13,160 Speaker 1: I'm not saying certainly, I know what Eric the Costa 6 00:00:13,200 --> 00:00:14,720 Speaker 1: is gonna do, but I think one of those linebackers 7 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:18,800 Speaker 1: would be the pick. I'm looking at a round two 8 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:21,240 Speaker 1: for wide receiver for the ravensip to five or sixty. 9 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:24,239 Speaker 1: There's a lot of receivers that are really good. They're 10 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:26,599 Speaker 1: gonna go within the first day three four or five rounds. 11 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:29,639 Speaker 1: Right now at thirty three receivers with top four round grains, 12 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:33,920 Speaker 1: which is pretty amazing. I got to believe Eric the 13 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:36,479 Speaker 1: Costa was seven picks in the first four round is 14 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:39,600 Speaker 1: coming up with a minimum of five difference makers. Five 15 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 1: guys are gonna help this football team. It's a team 16 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 1: that doesn't even need five guys. Welcome into the lounge. 17 00:00:56,160 --> 00:01:00,080 Speaker 1: It's here our interview with no keyper Jr. Yes, and 18 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 1: we've been working for this one, baby, so we are 19 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:04,920 Speaker 1: thrilled to have him. Yeah, you've been teasing this one 20 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 1: up for probably about two months. Yep, yep, yep. Well, 21 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 1: we are excited to head meail on get into some 22 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 1: more draft talk. Before we do that, let's read a 23 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:18,480 Speaker 1: quick email here from Eric Clark. He says, thanks for 24 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 1: all the great content during this time. Been a long 25 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 1: time since I email, but wanted to get ahead, uh, 26 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:26,200 Speaker 1: get ahead on mock draft submissions. I personally want Jaialen 27 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:30,280 Speaker 1: Reagor from TCU at he's a true game breaker. But 28 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:32,319 Speaker 1: the more I think about it, Caesar Ruise is twenty 29 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:34,759 Speaker 1: year old Blue Chips center. Talk about a young player 30 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:36,679 Speaker 1: to grow with Lamar, I don't think it gets he 31 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:40,679 Speaker 1: gets out of round one, so I'm tracing back. So 32 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 1: tracing back, trading back like tracing back with the Hex, 33 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 1: trading trading back can't be an option. So anyway, Eric 34 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 1: Clark has Caesar Ruise at eight. Grett your thoughts. I 35 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 1: don't think that would be a bad pick at all. Um. 36 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 1: As I've said over the past couple of days, I 37 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 1: think that interior offensive line could be the move early, 38 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:00,920 Speaker 1: maybe even in the first round, und or early in 39 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:03,560 Speaker 1: the second if the Ravens were to trade back. Ruiz 40 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 1: is a great prospect. I mean, he could be your anchor. 41 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 1: Like we talked about earlier this week for the next 42 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 1: ten years in the middle of the offensive line. He's 43 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 1: your anchor as a center. Uh So, I think you 44 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 1: can feel really good about that. And in terms of Reagor, 45 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:17,800 Speaker 1: I really like Race. No, no, I'm gonna talk about Reagor. 46 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 1: I'm gonna talk about Ragor. I love Or. I'm taking 47 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 1: him in my second round mock second round VENs as 48 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:28,079 Speaker 1: I as I have, Make finally got around to watching 49 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 1: videos that I did two months ago. I like Jalen Reagor, 50 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:33,920 Speaker 1: and I like Robert Hunt, the offensive lineman for Louisa. 51 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 1: You cannot steal Robert. I've been saying for the last 52 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:42,400 Speaker 1: two months could be good options for the Ravens in 53 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:44,919 Speaker 1: the second round. And that's where I'm meaning in this, 54 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:47,639 Speaker 1: in this mock draft. So, uh, Make might be trying 55 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 1: to jump. He's been saying, make his his his said 56 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 1: that he has Lavisca Chanal that's his second round mock pick. 57 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 1: So now he's trying to hedge and go off of that. 58 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:01,359 Speaker 1: But I've got those two guys. So anyway, anyway, we'll 59 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 1: be talking about our marks coming up here in the 60 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:04,959 Speaker 1: next couple of weeks. But let's just go ahead and 61 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:07,960 Speaker 1: jump into our interview with mel kiper Jr. The pre 62 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 1: eminent draft expert. You know, we give you the nod 63 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:15,079 Speaker 1: over McShay and all the rest of them. They're all good. 64 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 1: That's the thing. These all these guys. It's amazing. I've 65 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:19,640 Speaker 1: seen them when they were so young, and with Todd 66 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:22,800 Speaker 1: and then with Daniel Jeremiah and Mike Mayo now GM 67 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 1: of the Raiders. So it's like we've all worked together 68 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 1: at some point in time at ESPN and done all 69 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:29,520 Speaker 1: these these different things together. So yeah, they do a 70 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 1: great job. And Mike's out with the Raiders with John 71 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 1: who I worked with all those years with the draft, 72 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 1: so it's a Todd's here and to Dan is gonna 73 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 1: be with draft this year, so it's gonna be it 74 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 1: should be a lot of fun. You know. No, this 75 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 1: is siding it. I didn't even have this question teed 76 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 1: up for you, but I just thought of it. When 77 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 1: when are you going to become a GM? You know 78 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 1: out there? When do you get the offer? No? I 79 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 1: had it back when I was twenty with twenty three 80 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 1: to go to work for the Baltimore Colts with Arni 81 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 1: your course, and of course the team was moving and 82 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 1: they traded John Elway without earning consent, and there are 83 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:00,280 Speaker 1: a lot of things going on there, and that was 84 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 1: not I had actually accepted the position was going to 85 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 1: be announced. That summer just didn't work out because of 86 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 1: the situation with Ernie. So I just kept doing what 87 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 1: I was doing, and then six months later started working 88 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 1: at ESPN. Wow, that's crazy. I didn't do that, that's crazy. 89 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 1: It was really the time. The timing of it was 90 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 1: really because if I had I accepted that what I 91 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 1: accept that, had Ernie brought me in, then that job 92 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 1: opened at ESPN, I would have never been in a 93 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 1: position to get that job because I had been working 94 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:29,599 Speaker 1: for Ernie. Then if Ernie would have left, I would 95 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:31,599 Speaker 1: have probably left two, which would have meant a year 96 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 1: later ESPN would have filled that void. I would have 97 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:37,599 Speaker 1: been obviously not with the Colt because Ernie was leaving, 98 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 1: So my career would have been a completely different scenario 99 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 1: than it is right now. Wow, that's wild, that's wold. 100 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 1: All right, Well, we're glad you're in your role, you know, 101 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 1: but but this you got a cool gig going right now, 102 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:52,840 Speaker 1: so uh, we'll just dive into it. Your melon and 103 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of people have been talking 104 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 1: about Kenneth Murray and Patrick Queen to the Ravens. That's 105 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:01,920 Speaker 1: a very popular pick, right which guy? You know, if 106 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:04,360 Speaker 1: if if both were there, I'm not saying that that's 107 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 1: going to happen. If both were there, which one is 108 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 1: the better fit for the Ravens, Well, they're both good fits. 109 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:12,719 Speaker 1: I mean, I think Queen really stepped up his game 110 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:15,560 Speaker 1: this year. Murray had a better body of work from 111 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:18,279 Speaker 1: the the last three years. The production at Murray had 112 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:21,040 Speaker 1: was a lot better than Queen. McQueen was not even 113 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 1: a full time starter till this year, and he could 114 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:25,840 Speaker 1: end up being the most improved player on that talent 115 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:29,120 Speaker 1: laden defense, and actually underachieved a little early because remember 116 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:31,279 Speaker 1: Grant Delpitt was bothered by the ankle injury, and of 117 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 1: course Calvan Chason was coming back from an injury and 118 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 1: he didn't get sacked production until late in the year. 119 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 1: So they had a lot of issues on defense early on, 120 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:41,720 Speaker 1: and Queen was the steadying force. So if he didn't 121 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:44,040 Speaker 1: step up and play the way he did that defense, 122 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 1: like I said, it was really underachieving early on, would 123 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 1: have never been able to remain uh and then keep 124 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 1: that team undefeated with the great offense they had led 125 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:53,840 Speaker 1: by Joe Burrow. So I think Patrick Queen said. Dave 126 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 1: Randa said, all year he was our most improved defensive player. 127 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 1: And he improved dramatically, improved his tackle total by four 128 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:04,040 Speaker 1: five tackles and improved his tackles for loss by seven seven, 129 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 1: went from one sack to three sacks at an interception, 130 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:10,480 Speaker 1: became more of a factor in coverage. So in all areas, 131 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 1: Patrick Crean really claim on now Murray had been steady 132 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:16,560 Speaker 1: all along in fifty five tackles on two I mean 133 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:19,480 Speaker 1: twelve and af tackles ross seventeen this year, four sacks 134 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:21,800 Speaker 1: the last two years. So he's there there, and they 135 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 1: both tested. They both ran as the combin. I was 136 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:25,840 Speaker 1: there at the combine. They both ran four five. Both 137 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:27,280 Speaker 1: pulled up at the end when they ran them. But 138 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:30,360 Speaker 1: they both can fly. Uh yeah, I said, I don't 139 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 1: think both will be there when the Ravens pick. Maybe 140 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 1: one of the two will Which one of those two, 141 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:37,280 Speaker 1: I don't know. The teams to worry about before the 142 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 1: Ravens obviously would be New Orleans at twenty four, New 143 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:44,279 Speaker 1: England at twenty three. Uh you know, Jacksonville at twenty, 144 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 1: but I would say the Raiders. I would say the 145 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:48,320 Speaker 1: Raiders at nineteen New England and twenty three in New 146 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:50,599 Speaker 1: Orleans at twenty four would be teams to really worry 147 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 1: about in terms of taking those linebackers. Do you think 148 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 1: if one of them is there that that's a just 149 00:06:56,800 --> 00:07:00,080 Speaker 1: don't even overthink it. Turned the card in and you 150 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:02,200 Speaker 1: have your starting inside linebacker for the next several years, 151 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:06,360 Speaker 1: kind of like they did with C. J. Mosley back in. Yeah, 152 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 1: I would think so. And I think Caesar Ruiz, the 153 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 1: center guard from Michigan, is tempting, but you know they 154 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 1: passed on that center guard type over the last couple 155 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 1: of years, more Eric McCoy last year, and then of 156 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 1: course James Daniels from Iowa. You're prior to that, So 157 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 1: I would say yes. To answer your question, I would 158 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 1: say one of those two linebackers are there. I'm not 159 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 1: saying certainly I know what Eric Pasa is gonna do, 160 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 1: but I think one of those linebackers will be the 161 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:32,239 Speaker 1: pick you mentioned Ruise, you know, center guard. He seems 162 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:35,280 Speaker 1: to be a guy late first, maybe early to mid second. 163 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 1: The Ravens are are always a team that doesn't seem 164 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 1: to reach for guys, you know, they take the guy 165 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 1: who might be following down the board versus taking a 166 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 1: guy who is projected more often in the ten picks later. 167 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 1: So with that in mind, is is Ruise somebody who 168 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 1: you think would be worth the value there if they 169 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 1: were to take him at number twenty eight? I do, 170 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:56,160 Speaker 1: and I think there are several teams that could look 171 00:07:56,440 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 1: and maybe go that route early on, whether they remember 172 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 1: you think about where Brad Berry went last year to 173 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 1: Minnesota coming out of NC State. We've seen that before 174 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 1: in the NFL, where some of the top centers have gone. 175 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 1: But I think when you look at where Nick Mangold went, 176 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 1: now you've got a guy like Ruiz who has started 177 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 1: at guard early on. There was the anchor of that 178 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 1: line the last two years. Really good player came out 179 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 1: of IMG Academy. Uh, he's a nice player. Now will 180 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:22,240 Speaker 1: he be there? I think he will. Uh. I think 181 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 1: there's probably like an eighty percent Chancy will Kansas City 182 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 1: could look at him as well. At thirty two. I 183 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:28,520 Speaker 1: think he's gonna go. If he don't go in the 184 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 1: first round, he's gonna go early to mid second. The 185 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:33,079 Speaker 1: Ravens pick at fifty five. They have two second round 186 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 1: picks two thirds and two four, so they have seven 187 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:36,959 Speaker 1: picks but in the first four rounds. So they're in 188 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 1: a great spot to get some some help along the 189 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:41,960 Speaker 1: offensive line at that center guards. But if Ruise is 190 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:44,080 Speaker 1: not part of the equation, and he probably won't be 191 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 1: if you don't take him in the first you probably 192 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 1: I don't think you'll get him a fifty five. Yeah, 193 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:50,680 Speaker 1: I've kind of been looking at the guard tackles. You know, 194 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:52,600 Speaker 1: Eric Coss has talked to a lot about how he 195 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:55,920 Speaker 1: feels like there's some good tackle college tackles who project 196 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 1: well at guard in the NFL. Who are some of 197 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 1: those guys on dates to you that you think could 198 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:04,440 Speaker 1: kind of step in and still plug in for Marshal Yonda. 199 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 1: I think Robert Hunt is the guy that I It's 200 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 1: just he just jumps off the page at you when 201 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:12,840 Speaker 1: you watch him. He's so physical, he's so talented right 202 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 1: tackle guard. I think if you can get Robert Hunt 203 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:18,439 Speaker 1: at fifty five, not only do you have a quality 204 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 1: young backup tackle with Stanley and Brown being starts, you 205 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 1: have a backup there, but you have the immediate plug 206 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:27,680 Speaker 1: and play starter at guard who's gonna improve your at 207 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 1: that position with Marshal Yonder retiring, So I would think 208 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:32,360 Speaker 1: he would be at the top of my list. If 209 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 1: you can get right and say Robert Hunt with that 210 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 1: fifty five overall pick, assuming you get the inside linebacker 211 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:40,480 Speaker 1: at say eight, one of those two we talked about, 212 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 1: Murray or Queen, then that would be something I think 213 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 1: you would have to look at. Uh, there's no question 214 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:47,319 Speaker 1: about that. I think he's the he is right now. 215 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 1: If you have to look at offensive linement overall, he's 216 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 1: probably just on one ability your fifth, sixth, seventh best lineman, 217 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 1: and that's combining tackles, guards, and centers. I think Mel's 218 00:09:56,679 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 1: reading off my mock draft here, Garrett. No, I don't 219 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 1: know about that. I and send that to you before 220 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:05,800 Speaker 1: this interview. Did No, No, did you have Robert Hunt? Oh? Yeah, 221 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:07,760 Speaker 1: Robert Hood. I like Robert Hunt a lot in the 222 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:10,440 Speaker 1: second round. Yeah, I mean, if they could do that, 223 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 1: I mean, like I said, and there's an inside linebacker 224 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 1: to watch two guys that they do miss out on 225 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:18,600 Speaker 1: Murray and Queen, all is not lost because Jordan's Brooks 226 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 1: is a linebacker at Texas Tech, and if you watch him, 227 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:26,719 Speaker 1: just a tackle producer. I mean seventy eight one o 228 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 1: eight last three years, and I did have from shoulder 229 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 1: issues and they had a shoulder at the game of 230 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:31,959 Speaker 1: the year. Missed that final game against Texas, and in 231 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:34,000 Speaker 1: that game, Texas went for over six hundred yards of 232 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:36,959 Speaker 1: offense when Brooks wasn't there. Uh, he had twenty tackles, 233 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:39,679 Speaker 1: lost three sacks, forced a couple of fumbles. Ran he 234 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 1: had coming back from the shoulder. We didn't think it'd 235 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:42,960 Speaker 1: work out. At the combine he ran. He ran four 236 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:45,720 Speaker 1: five four four five one in that area. So it's 237 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:48,440 Speaker 1: a kid two forty pounds, six ft tall. That's kind 238 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:52,040 Speaker 1: of that Ray Lewis build, with that fierce mentality that 239 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:55,079 Speaker 1: Ray brought. I think Jordan Brooks, if you don't get 240 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:57,680 Speaker 1: the linebacker of twenty eight, think about Jordan Brooks. That 241 00:10:57,720 --> 00:11:00,320 Speaker 1: either fifty five or sixty and round two. So, like 242 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:02,720 Speaker 1: I said, if people shouldn't say, oh we didn't get 243 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:05,599 Speaker 1: the linebacker, Queen and Murray are gone. Jordan Brooks is 244 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 1: not even a fallback plan. I'd say without the shoulder injuries, 245 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 1: he'd be right there with Queen and Murray. So we're 246 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 1: a few minutes into the interview and we haven't asked 247 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 1: about wide receiver in the draft, which never happens when 248 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 1: we're talking about Raven's draft and projecting how that's gonna go. 249 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 1: So for the receivers, if the Ravens are gonna make 250 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:25,679 Speaker 1: take a receiver twenty eight, which you know is a possibility, 251 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:27,960 Speaker 1: the guys who seemed like they would be in that 252 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:31,920 Speaker 1: mix would be maybe Denzel Mims or Tee Higgins, Brandon Aiyuk. 253 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:33,679 Speaker 1: What do you think about those guys and would they 254 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 1: be worth taking at that spot? Yeah, they probably would compose. 255 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:40,199 Speaker 1: When you think about Higgins, he ran that four or 256 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 1: five five, four or five eight. He didn't finish strong 257 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 1: in those last couple of final four games. Wasn't as 258 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 1: physical as he needed to be there against those good corners. 259 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:50,680 Speaker 1: That bothered some people. He had a really good career though, 260 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 1: Um you know, you look at Justin Jefferson, he really 261 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 1: came one. I don't think Jefferson is gonna be there. 262 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 1: I think he's the one that goes a little earlier 263 00:11:57,400 --> 00:11:59,599 Speaker 1: now because if you look after the big three of 264 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:04,040 Speaker 1: rug Judy, uh LAMB and Rugs, then you get into 265 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 1: teams like Denver at fifteen. You could see I could 266 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 1: very easily see bait Las Vegas, the Raiders at nineteen, 267 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:14,480 Speaker 1: at Jacksonville at twenty certainly Minnesota and Minnesota two Minnesota 268 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:17,160 Speaker 1: picks again at twenty five. I would think Jefferson is 269 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:18,920 Speaker 1: gonna be gone. He was just too good this year. 270 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:21,320 Speaker 1: He ran four four three at the Combine, which was 271 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 1: fascial than people thought he would run. Mims had a 272 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:26,960 Speaker 1: good year, had a great Senior Bowl week, had a 273 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:30,520 Speaker 1: great combine. People wonder about route running with him coming 274 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:33,319 Speaker 1: out of Baylor, but he's quick out of his break. 275 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:35,920 Speaker 1: Uh Like they tested off the charts. I think he 276 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:38,559 Speaker 1: could be there. Just gauging things over the last few days. 277 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:41,000 Speaker 1: I think Mims maybe could be there. I you, Cat 278 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:43,240 Speaker 1: just had the core muscle surgery, had a really good 279 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:45,640 Speaker 1: year for her Edwards, her members lows EYU. He's got 280 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:48,200 Speaker 1: great return skills as well. Uh. Yeah, I think he'll 281 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 1: be there as well. I think Michael Pittman Jr. Is 282 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 1: another kid you'll keep an eye. Went round two wide 283 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:57,840 Speaker 1: receiver out of USC. Yes, that's I'm looking around two 284 00:12:57,920 --> 00:13:00,240 Speaker 1: for wide receiver for the Ravens fifty five or the 285 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:02,960 Speaker 1: and some of the guys that I think about that 286 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 1: that could potentially be. There would be Lavisca Chenult, Jalen Ragor, 287 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:11,160 Speaker 1: kJ Hammler, Chase, Claypool, and Pittman. Like you mentioned, which 288 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:13,719 Speaker 1: one do you think fits? Which who should I go with? Now? 289 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 1: That's what I want to ask in my draft and 290 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 1: why let's just do what you gotta do. You're right 291 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:20,559 Speaker 1: on all this stuff, man, I tell you got a 292 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:22,840 Speaker 1: great opinion. That's I'll trust you on that one. But 293 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:25,839 Speaker 1: I'd say Pittman has the highest grade just because of 294 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:28,200 Speaker 1: Chan Chanault would have, but it was the injuries that 295 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:30,199 Speaker 1: are are bothering him with with in terms of the 296 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:33,360 Speaker 1: draft process, with the durability concerned to different injuries. So 297 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:37,000 Speaker 1: I think Lavisco chanlt Jr. From Colorado would probably be 298 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:40,600 Speaker 1: second to Pittman Junior from USC scout his father. Remember 299 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:42,960 Speaker 1: Michael Pittman running back, came out of Fresno State, has 300 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:45,720 Speaker 1: a nice NFL career. But I would go those rigors 301 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:47,960 Speaker 1: interesting because Ragor didn't have a quarterback. He had a 302 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:49,920 Speaker 1: couple of drops. He had a punt return for a 303 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:52,160 Speaker 1: touchdown against Canadas after he fumbled the punch, scooped it 304 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:54,880 Speaker 1: up and went eighty yards for a touchdown. He can fly. 305 00:13:55,160 --> 00:13:57,240 Speaker 1: He's a he's you know, he's got a ton of talent. 306 00:13:57,440 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 1: I think Ragor. I think if you want the speed 307 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 1: guy with hunt return ability, you want Reagor. If you 308 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:06,160 Speaker 1: want to the the route runner, the underneath option, the 309 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:09,160 Speaker 1: guy that brings to some height, it's just polished. Michael 310 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:11,440 Speaker 1: Pittman Jr. Would be that guy want to roll the 311 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:13,000 Speaker 1: dice and just a guy who could be an all 312 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:15,560 Speaker 1: around town it would be Channal. So. I think there's 313 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 1: a lot of options. Want slot guys. Duvern Devin Duverne 314 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 1: from Texas. kJ Hill from Ohio State would be an option. 315 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:25,400 Speaker 1: People bring up kJ Hamler Penn State, but he had 316 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:27,560 Speaker 1: some drops there even though he can fly. Now, just 317 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 1: give you a couple of names of guys who are 318 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:30,440 Speaker 1: a little under the radar. I'm sure you guys know 319 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 1: all about him though, because Isaiah Coulter at Rhode Island, 320 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:35,480 Speaker 1: who's an interesting kid. You know, Aaron Parker got a 321 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 1: little more pub early on that Rhode Island. Coulter outproduced them. Uh. 322 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:42,680 Speaker 1: Antonio Gandy Golden at Liberty, Antonio Gibson at Memphis. Uh. 323 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:45,480 Speaker 1: There's a lot of receivers that are really good. They're 324 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 1: gonna go within the first day three or four or 325 00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 1: five rounds. Right now at thirty three receivers with top 326 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 1: four round grades, which is pretty amazing. Yeah, that's what 327 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:55,720 Speaker 1: Eric to COSA yesterday and talking to the reporters said 328 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:59,040 Speaker 1: he felt like he feels like they could find a 329 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 1: starting cow, a bird wide receiver in the fifth round. 330 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 1: So who who are these fifth round gyms that he's 331 00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 1: talking about. Well, somebody slides through the cracks and that 332 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:11,680 Speaker 1: could be give us some names of guys that could 333 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 1: maybe be in that category. You would be looking at 334 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:16,680 Speaker 1: James Prochet out of s m u uh. You could 335 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:18,320 Speaker 1: be looking and say it. I say a culture at 336 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 1: a Rhode Island. Um Antonio Gainey Golden Liberty could drop 337 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:23,120 Speaker 1: because if people say, well around a four or sixth 338 00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:25,000 Speaker 1: he was two and twenty three pounds, he's a big kid. 339 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:28,360 Speaker 1: Um John high Tower at a Boise State local kid 340 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 1: from this area. Um, let's see Desmond Patman out of 341 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 1: Washington State. I'm not as high on Donovan people showns 342 00:15:35,760 --> 00:15:37,400 Speaker 1: as Todd is. I think he'll go a lot earlier 343 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:39,640 Speaker 1: than he's really should, but he'll be gone by then. 344 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 1: Quez Watkins as a kid could drop into the fifth 345 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 1: out of Southern miss At a really good year there 346 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:47,360 Speaker 1: as well, Joe Read out of Virginia. UM, so there's 347 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:49,960 Speaker 1: gonna be I think some guys that that do drop. 348 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 1: If we'll see where Brian it words like I say 349 00:15:51,640 --> 00:15:54,240 Speaker 1: South Carolina goes as well. He maybe if he's a 350 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:56,280 Speaker 1: rail and then that fourth fifth round area, he'd be interesting. 351 00:15:56,320 --> 00:15:58,560 Speaker 1: I'm not as high on Tiree Cleveland. Some people think 352 00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:01,080 Speaker 1: overreacted to the combine. I didn't see it. He was 353 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:03,000 Speaker 1: a gunner on special teams at a good job there, 354 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:05,960 Speaker 1: but as a receiver wasn't impressed. So Tyree clean when 355 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:09,480 Speaker 1: I wouldn't factor into the equation like some Lynn Bowden Jr. 356 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:11,640 Speaker 1: Who had they played some quarterback this year did a 357 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:15,920 Speaker 1: great job save Kentucky season moving from receiver to a quarterback, 358 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:18,480 Speaker 1: also has return skills. He could be a good fourth 359 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:21,600 Speaker 1: round guy. M hm. So let's let's slip it over 360 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:24,160 Speaker 1: back to the defensive side of the ball. Edge is 361 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:26,720 Speaker 1: still kind of position. Even though the Ravens add you 362 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:28,800 Speaker 1: know clay As Campbell, he'll provide pass rush and they 363 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 1: have Matthew Judan under the franchise tag, they certainly could 364 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:34,600 Speaker 1: still add a pass rusher, somebody on that edge. Any 365 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 1: chance that a j F Vanessa makes it to obviously 366 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:42,240 Speaker 1: didn't have a great combine, highly productive in college. Um, 367 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:44,560 Speaker 1: and do you like him there in the first round? 368 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:48,280 Speaker 1: I think it's a his borderline. He didn't test well. 369 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:51,000 Speaker 1: You know, he's not real explosive. He's just a guy 370 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:54,120 Speaker 1: who has good technique. He can kick inside the defensive 371 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 1: tackle one third down if you want. Gives you options there. 372 00:16:57,400 --> 00:16:59,000 Speaker 1: If you got some good pass rushing on the outside, 373 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:01,320 Speaker 1: you say, he gives you had a good interior presence, uh, 374 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 1: getting after the quarterback. He did a good job against 375 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:06,679 Speaker 1: Austin Jackson, who was a USC tackle who's a borderline 376 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:10,200 Speaker 1: first round pick. Um, I think he'll be you know, 377 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 1: whether it will be a Minnesota's the team that could 378 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:15,080 Speaker 1: maybe take him to stick in and replace Everson Griffin. 379 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:17,280 Speaker 1: But I think there's a chance he could be there. 380 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:19,520 Speaker 1: But he's right now considered more of a borderline. First. 381 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:22,480 Speaker 1: The Ravens have done a really good job finding pass 382 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:26,159 Speaker 1: rushers late in the draft. Is that Arius Smith, Pernell McPhee, 383 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:29,439 Speaker 1: Matthew jude On. So when you look at that the 384 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:32,440 Speaker 1: fourth round, the two fours, the five, Uh, then you're 385 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:36,800 Speaker 1: looking at guys like Trevis Gibson at at Tulsa, Alex 386 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:38,960 Speaker 1: Highsmith at Charlotte. I really like, I'm not sure. I 387 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:40,800 Speaker 1: don't think he'll be there beyond maybe the third or 388 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:44,760 Speaker 1: fourth round. Casey to Hill at Stanford, Derek Tusca at 389 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:46,760 Speaker 1: North Dakota States that could I really liked on tap, 390 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:50,320 Speaker 1: thought he really got after the quarterback tested well. Cam 391 00:17:50,359 --> 00:17:52,439 Speaker 1: Brown at Penn State didn't run well at the Combine. 392 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 1: I was. I saw him at the airport coming home 393 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:56,960 Speaker 1: from the Combine, very disappointed with at four seventh three. 394 00:17:57,000 --> 00:17:59,879 Speaker 1: Wonder to run his Pro day. Couldn't, But he's got talent. 395 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:02,879 Speaker 1: Uh So, I think Carter Coughlin at Minnesota's and kind 396 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:04,640 Speaker 1: of one of those guys just gives you everything. He has, 397 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:07,879 Speaker 1: all out hustler Jabari's and Nigue at Florida's another one. 398 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:10,440 Speaker 1: So they will find John Grenard at Florida's another guy 399 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:12,520 Speaker 1: as well, along with Niga, who one of those two 400 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:14,399 Speaker 1: may drops. So they're gonna find the Ravens that had 401 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:16,800 Speaker 1: a great track record finding pass rushers. Like I said, 402 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:20,199 Speaker 1: very late in the draft, I feel like Ryan sent 403 00:18:20,359 --> 00:18:22,399 Speaker 1: the questions to you in advance. I mean that you 404 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:24,600 Speaker 1: already just jumped into the next question because I was 405 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:26,480 Speaker 1: going to ask about who some of those later round 406 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 1: guys are. You just rolled right into it. I didn't't 407 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:32,720 Speaker 1: even need to ask the question a pro maybe it's 408 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:36,000 Speaker 1: it's there, it's it's Eric, the Costa Nazi knewsooning Bill Savage. 409 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:37,760 Speaker 1: You know all those guys have done a great job, 410 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:40,320 Speaker 1: like you say, of finding those. Some teams just have 411 00:18:40,359 --> 00:18:43,000 Speaker 1: a knack at a position. And when you see a 412 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:45,360 Speaker 1: trend developing that, you know how many teams are able 413 00:18:45,359 --> 00:18:47,199 Speaker 1: to find those that Darius Smith and Pronell mcnehon and 414 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:49,600 Speaker 1: Matthew june On late in the draft they can't do that, 415 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:51,760 Speaker 1: so but the Ravens can. Other teams have had a 416 00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:54,400 Speaker 1: little bit better success than the Ravens until Hollywood round 417 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 1: a wide receiver. So again, the Hollywood seems that have 418 00:18:57,440 --> 00:19:00,119 Speaker 1: chefs have really stemmed that tie from the being. You 419 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:02,520 Speaker 1: know where receivers have had a rough time here in 420 00:19:02,520 --> 00:19:05,080 Speaker 1: Baltimore over the years. But I think when you look 421 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:07,600 Speaker 1: at at the past rusher they've been able to find. 422 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 1: I gave you a lot of names. I'd say that 423 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:10,919 Speaker 1: you know, the Costa Eric will find a guy or 424 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:13,199 Speaker 1: two that he likes. If they're there, I think that 425 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:15,679 Speaker 1: could be something look at as well. It seems like 426 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:18,639 Speaker 1: the Ravens also just have a knack for like a 427 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:21,960 Speaker 1: top notch prospect just sliding down the board to them. 428 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 1: I don't know if they get all the Rabbits feed 429 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:26,959 Speaker 1: or what it is, but every year it seems like 430 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:29,280 Speaker 1: some guy that's projected to go in the top fifteen 431 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:32,640 Speaker 1: ends up sitting in the Ravens lad right. Who who 432 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:36,439 Speaker 1: could that player be this year? That's see, that's the 433 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:38,720 Speaker 1: shocking first round pick. That wouldn't be shocking if I 434 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:42,120 Speaker 1: could tell you. So that's that's I always get that question, 435 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:44,120 Speaker 1: who's gonna be the shocking first round pick? Or who's 436 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:46,560 Speaker 1: gonna be could this happen? If it happened, it's a surprise, 437 00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:50,200 Speaker 1: and you can't predict surprises because they don't think right now, 438 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:52,679 Speaker 1: you couldn't find that guy, and then when it happens, 439 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:54,560 Speaker 1: you're sitting there saying, how wouldn't we were talking are 440 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:56,919 Speaker 1: for the dress and why and how did that ever occur? 441 00:19:57,320 --> 00:19:59,840 Speaker 1: So that's the thing that we are well or or 442 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:02,080 Speaker 1: on it. It probably will, But to try to tell 443 00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 1: you who that guy is, we're going over all kind 444 00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:06,880 Speaker 1: of scenarios. As Eric is, they try to figure out 445 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:09,520 Speaker 1: what could possibly happen. Everybody's trying to canvass the league 446 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:11,639 Speaker 1: to see what may happen. But you know, I like 447 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:14,600 Speaker 1: the under the radar guys uh that you can get late. 448 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:17,119 Speaker 1: I mentioned Isaiah Coulter from Rhode Island, but there's a 449 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:18,959 Speaker 1: couple of other kids that I think you should keep 450 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:21,480 Speaker 1: an Eyeland. Ben Bartch is an offensive tackle from St. 451 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:24,280 Speaker 1: John's in Minnesota. You could kick him inside the guard. 452 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:28,639 Speaker 1: Very underrated player as a developmental tackles, who could I 453 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:30,679 Speaker 1: say could be a guard. There were some guys that 454 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:32,440 Speaker 1: didn't even get to the combine that have a chance. 455 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:34,239 Speaker 1: I'm sure Eric's gonna get on them. But I'll give 456 00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 1: you a corner and they don't need corner. But I 457 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:37,960 Speaker 1: want to see from your mox where you have Cameron 458 00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:44,280 Speaker 1: Danceler from Mississippi State going. They didn't run well at 459 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:46,159 Speaker 1: the combine, and I don't know if you know a 460 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:48,960 Speaker 1: lot of people overreact to combine time ran four six four, 461 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:51,800 Speaker 1: But he had a great year and he's got length. 462 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 1: He's a heck of a football player. If Cameron Danceler 463 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:58,480 Speaker 1: slides beyond the second round because of that forty time, Uh, 464 00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:00,600 Speaker 1: he becomes a great pic. Now some he still still 465 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:02,640 Speaker 1: think and there there were you know, people that thought 466 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:04,680 Speaker 1: late first round at one point they got down on 467 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:06,679 Speaker 1: a little bit after. You can't get down on a 468 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:09,359 Speaker 1: kid that plays as well as Cameron Danceler does. So 469 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:11,440 Speaker 1: just this remember that name. He probably won't be a 470 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:14,040 Speaker 1: Raven because Ravens obviously are well fortified at that position. 471 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:15,600 Speaker 1: But there was a kid who's got a lot of 472 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:18,359 Speaker 1: talent and if people overreacted at poor forty, he's gonna 473 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:22,640 Speaker 1: become a steel of the draft. Hm. My question was 474 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:25,080 Speaker 1: on the first round as I've tried to figure out 475 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:27,480 Speaker 1: who who that could be, like that guy that slips, 476 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:30,639 Speaker 1: and I was wondering if Cleveland Chase Sign could be 477 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:33,040 Speaker 1: that guy because he had some injury history in college, 478 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:36,000 Speaker 1: you know, kind of came on late. Everyone seems to 479 00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:38,359 Speaker 1: think that he's probably going before the Ravens around the 480 00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:40,200 Speaker 1: clock of twenty eight. But I was just like, could 481 00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:42,680 Speaker 1: he be that guy that all of a sudden is 482 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:46,359 Speaker 1: kind of a surprising option that's available to you, you know, 483 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:49,160 Speaker 1: late in the first Yeah, that's an interesting question because 484 00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:50,440 Speaker 1: he's you know, he's the kind of guy who's his 485 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:52,960 Speaker 1: sack production came really late in the year, but he 486 00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:55,439 Speaker 1: was coming back from the injury, so it took him 487 00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:57,560 Speaker 1: a while, and once he got back to where he 488 00:21:57,600 --> 00:21:59,680 Speaker 1: needed to be, he was really getting after the quarterback. 489 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:02,159 Speaker 1: So if you think about the league, pass rushers are 490 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:04,879 Speaker 1: in demand, well and there aren't well, there's not a 491 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:06,840 Speaker 1: lot of depths and I didn't point out some later 492 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:08,720 Speaker 1: round guys, but there's not a lot of depth early 493 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:11,400 Speaker 1: in terms of past rushers. Like I said Epanessa, there's 494 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:13,080 Speaker 1: mixed opinion on one. Some of these other guys didn't 495 00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:15,119 Speaker 1: run well. Bradley and I I like at Utah, but 496 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 1: he didn't run well. But he's gonna be a good player, 497 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:19,080 Speaker 1: I believe coming out of Utah. But I think with 498 00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:21,840 Speaker 1: Chason being a guy who can be in a four 499 00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:23,720 Speaker 1: man front with his hand on the ground, which would 500 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:26,239 Speaker 1: be interesting for Dallas at seventeen, you can play well 501 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 1: obviously on his feet, like Atlanta would like him to 502 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:31,600 Speaker 1: do at sixteen. So you got Atlanta at sixteen, Dallas 503 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:35,120 Speaker 1: at seventeen, Miami at eight. Team they could think anybody 504 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:39,280 Speaker 1: at eighteen or just about everybody. Uh you know, you know, 505 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:42,879 Speaker 1: you know Seattle always wants pass rushers. You know Minnesota 506 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:45,439 Speaker 1: need somebody to replace Griffin. So to answer your question, 507 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:49,520 Speaker 1: Ryan and Garry, I don't think Chason will be there. Uh, 508 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:52,240 Speaker 1: just because of the man for pass rushers and the 509 00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:54,200 Speaker 1: fact that when he was on late in a year, 510 00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:56,440 Speaker 1: he was really getting after the quarterback when the games 511 00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:58,600 Speaker 1: meant the most. So yeah, that would be a guy. 512 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:00,640 Speaker 1: Some projections I know have him in the late first 513 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 1: I'm thinking sixteen seventeen, no later than twenty seven. All right, Samel, 514 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:09,800 Speaker 1: Just to kind of come to a close here, Uh, 515 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:12,119 Speaker 1: if it's not Kenneth, to murder your Pastrick Queen, is 516 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:13,960 Speaker 1: it Louise or who are you putting your money on? 517 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:15,920 Speaker 1: If it's not one of the inside linebackers that a 518 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:17,960 Speaker 1: lot of people think it will be. Yeah, I think 519 00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:19,879 Speaker 1: it's gonna be one of the two linebackers. I just 520 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:23,959 Speaker 1: I think somehow, some way, one of those two is there. Uh. 521 00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:26,760 Speaker 1: You know, Queen's only two pounds, but he fits to 522 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:30,199 Speaker 1: today's NFL perfectly. I think New Orleans, I said, New 523 00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:31,960 Speaker 1: Orleans is a team that you have to worry about 524 00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:34,320 Speaker 1: because they really need a linebacker. In New England, I'll 525 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:37,480 Speaker 1: tell you another name, Zach Bond from Wisconsin. New England 526 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:40,520 Speaker 1: likes those kinds of linebackers, those versatile guys. You think 527 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:42,840 Speaker 1: about what Mike Rabel was when he played, before he coached, 528 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:45,200 Speaker 1: he was a player for Bill Belichick, think about Kyle 529 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:47,720 Speaker 1: van Noy, all these different guys you like. They like 530 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:50,399 Speaker 1: first of all, guys are doing. Nothing's changed there, And 531 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:53,400 Speaker 1: Zach Bond could be inside outside He's got pass rush ability. 532 00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:55,400 Speaker 1: So maybe for New England, if they would take Bond, 533 00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:57,920 Speaker 1: New Orleans takes murder your queen. That allows one of 534 00:23:57,920 --> 00:23:59,360 Speaker 1: those two to get to the Ravens. So I think 535 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:02,320 Speaker 1: New England your ones are pivotal. But if to answer 536 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:04,840 Speaker 1: your question about Ruise, if he were there, like I said, 537 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:06,800 Speaker 1: a guy can still a hole at center or guard 538 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:08,760 Speaker 1: and it's a heck of a football player. Now, and 539 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:11,199 Speaker 1: then you think about McCoy last year, had it not 540 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:13,439 Speaker 1: been for Hollywood Brown being there, McCoy would have been 541 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 1: in the mix. I think about the year Wet with 542 00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:17,560 Speaker 1: Daniels from Iowa would have been in the mix. So 543 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:19,760 Speaker 1: there's different options they would have had then to get 544 00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:21,800 Speaker 1: that center guard. Now you get the third straight year 545 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:24,399 Speaker 1: with a kind of center guard. If he's available. I 546 00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 1: think Ruise if those two linebackers are gone, certainly that 547 00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:29,840 Speaker 1: he has to be under consideration for that pick. Alright, 548 00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:32,200 Speaker 1: last question for you mail, you're you're a Ravens fan 549 00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:35,040 Speaker 1: and a season ticket holder. Where are you at the Titans? 550 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:37,199 Speaker 1: Were you at the Titans playoff game? And what do 551 00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:39,520 Speaker 1: you feel like the Ravens need to do to get 552 00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:42,159 Speaker 1: over the hunt? Well, you know, I'm I'm there as 553 00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:43,760 Speaker 1: much as I can be. I missed that game because 554 00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 1: I had a lot of things to do here with 555 00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:47,800 Speaker 1: the ESPN, So but I get those many games I 556 00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:51,080 Speaker 1: possibly can obviously watched it. Uh, And I think that 557 00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:53,480 Speaker 1: the fact that you know, they just missed out they 558 00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:56,679 Speaker 1: were so even with the struggles that they had in 559 00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:59,120 Speaker 1: that game, you know, everything that didn't go their way, 560 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:02,560 Speaker 1: but they just missed out those fourth down opportunities here 561 00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:04,639 Speaker 1: and there. You know, had it just been just a 562 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:07,520 Speaker 1: break kicking the field goal, that they had different things 563 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:10,240 Speaker 1: that could have been happening just to sway momentum, swing 564 00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:13,000 Speaker 1: momentum one way that the Ravens or where they couldn't 565 00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:14,920 Speaker 1: get it. They just couldn't get to the point where 566 00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:17,600 Speaker 1: they felt like we're right in striking distance and they 567 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:19,840 Speaker 1: just Tennessee was able to just hold them back just 568 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:23,160 Speaker 1: enough where the crowd, the momentum never came the Raven's way. 569 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:25,159 Speaker 1: It was just some bad break. So you say, as 570 00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:27,080 Speaker 1: poorly as things went and they didn't have to bring 571 00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:29,800 Speaker 1: their a game and all that. Uh, they still I 572 00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:31,800 Speaker 1: think with a breaker two could have won that football 573 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:34,400 Speaker 1: games despite what things, all the things that went against them. 574 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:36,680 Speaker 1: So they just build on that. You got a great 575 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:39,760 Speaker 1: young quarterback they go, they have. They're well fortified in 576 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:42,440 Speaker 1: terms of talent. They brought in Calais, Campbell and Derrick 577 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:44,640 Speaker 1: will have to help out the defensive line with Williams. 578 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:46,719 Speaker 1: They're gonna add a linebacker or two. We know that 579 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:50,760 Speaker 1: there will fortified in the secondary, corner and safety. The 580 00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:53,440 Speaker 1: line is solid, except there's that question about center guard. 581 00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:56,399 Speaker 1: They got tight ends even with the Hearst move um. 582 00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:59,240 Speaker 1: They got three running backs where Cards the versatile guy. 583 00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:02,240 Speaker 1: Uh yeah, there's nothing to worry about here kicking games intact, 584 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:04,640 Speaker 1: except that when you come back and remember seven picks 585 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:06,439 Speaker 1: in the first four rounds, they got that five and 586 00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:09,159 Speaker 1: seven as well, right there. I gotta believe Eric the 587 00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:11,760 Speaker 1: Costa was seven picks in the first four rounds is 588 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:14,880 Speaker 1: coming up with a minimum of five difference makers. Five 589 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:16,960 Speaker 1: guys are gonna help this football team. It's a team 590 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:19,359 Speaker 1: that doesn't even need five guys, but they're gonna get five, 591 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:21,520 Speaker 1: maybe six. Eric would say seven. I'm gonna at them all, 592 00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:24,359 Speaker 1: which is what you hope. But those those those picks 593 00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:26,560 Speaker 1: in the first four rounds are gonna be really good players. 594 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:28,320 Speaker 1: Eric's got a great track record, he is a great 595 00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:32,760 Speaker 1: personnel evaluator. Their scouts do a great job. This four 596 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:35,800 Speaker 1: organization gets it. So I think anytime, I'm sure the 597 00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:37,679 Speaker 1: NFL is looking at that and say, wow, the Ravens 598 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:40,320 Speaker 1: with that talent level as all those picks, and we 599 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:42,760 Speaker 1: gotta play this team with Lamar good luck. So I 600 00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 1: think for Raven fans they got to be excited with 601 00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:46,680 Speaker 1: what's going on here in the great job that Eric's 602 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:49,760 Speaker 1: dewing and John Harrorball, Steve Brashatti, the owner phenomenal. So 603 00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:51,720 Speaker 1: if you're a Raven fan, is gonna be a great 604 00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:55,240 Speaker 1: the next hopefully next ten years. Awesome. Well, thank you, Mel, 605 00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:57,520 Speaker 1: you're the best, and we appreciate it. Have fun at 606 00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:00,240 Speaker 1: the draft. You got a guy who enjoyed it all right, 607 00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:02,000 Speaker 1: so thanks so much to Mel for joining us. Really 608 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:04,400 Speaker 1: good stuff from him. Always good to talk with Mel, 609 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:07,520 Speaker 1: and uh We've got some great ideas for our mocks 610 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:10,159 Speaker 1: which will be coming out the week of the draft, 611 00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:12,080 Speaker 1: so stay tuned for that. So thanks again to Mel. 612 00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:14,160 Speaker 1: As always, you guys can reach us at the lounge 613 00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:18,000 Speaker 1: at Ravens dot NFL dot net. Have a great weekend 614 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:20,600 Speaker 1: and we will be back with you on Monday.