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Speaker 1: And then I was like you should be an artist

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Speaker 2: Hey, everybody, Welcome to episode six' ten of The Bobby.

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Speaker 2: Cast on this, one we will talk in depth With Meghan,

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Speaker 2: trainor who has a really interesting story of moving To

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Speaker 2: nashville to be a. Songwriter all about that bass. Hits

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Speaker 2: she's written multiple number ones for country artists while she's

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Speaker 2: had number ones in the pop. World she just released

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Speaker 2: an album Called toy With, me so make sure you

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Speaker 2: go check that. Out big thanks To meghan for coming

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Speaker 2: on so here she Is meghan Trainer, meghan good to see.

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Speaker 1: You, hi good to see. You thanks for having.

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Speaker 2: Me did you ever do or try out for any

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Speaker 2: those idle the voice type shows.

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Speaker 1: Back in your early scared my Publisher Carlo wallace who

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Speaker 1: back in the, day who was In. Nashville she would

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Speaker 1: always tell me, like you should be on the voice

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Speaker 1: And i'm Like i'm. NOT i don't have that voice

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Speaker 1: LIKE i have like a pretty, voice But i'm a studio,

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Speaker 1: rat LIKE i can TAKE i can re sing it

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Speaker 1: and edit it and make it sound. Perfect i'm not

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Speaker 1: Like whitney that wants to sing Or Ariana grande who

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Speaker 1: whole huge hit. Song SO i mean that's WHAT i

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Speaker 1: feel LIKE i can't. Do so performing for me was

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Speaker 2: Song was it not about performing for? You way early?

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Speaker 2: ON i, mean did you want to be a songwriter

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Speaker 1: STAGE i THINK i was so insecure and so hard

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Speaker 1: LIKE i would perform my songs on my ukulele OR'd

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Speaker 1: about that. Bass that was the first TIME i had

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Speaker 1: like such a this feeling to, me like such a

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Speaker 1: weird new. Experience BUT i like loved, dancing BUT i

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Speaker 1: LEARNED i learned WHAT i could, do and just kept

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Speaker 1: proving myself for wrong and was, like oh my, God

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Speaker 1: i'm kind of. Badass AND i was, like let's keep.

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Speaker 1: Going AND i recently shot a music video for a

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Speaker 1: new song Called shimmer that's very heavy, dance AND i

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Speaker 1: trained for like weeks BECAUSE i. KNEW i was, LIKE

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Speaker 1: i am not a trained dancer from. Birth i'm gonna

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Speaker 1: have AND i want this to be a really hit

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Speaker 1: dance heavy, video and SO i trained for weeks to

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Speaker 1: like nail.

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Speaker 2: It how did you feel watching yourself back on camera

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Speaker 2: once you finished the video or you were like watching

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Speaker 2: takes of? It did you like watching yourself?

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Speaker 1: Dance we're all about that bass by That?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, no, no the new one that you've the new.

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Speaker 1: One i'm. Hyped i'm so. EXCITED i can't at wait

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Speaker 1: for everyone to see. It it's coming out with the

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Speaker 1: Album april twenty, Fourth toy With. Me but this song

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Speaker 1: is Called shimmer and she's she's a bibbity, bop she's.

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Speaker 1: Upbeat she's kind of like me. Too my Song IF

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Speaker 1: i was, YOU i want a baby and it's like

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Speaker 1: her cool older, sister And i'm so. Proud it's my

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Speaker 1: favorite music Video i've ever done in my entire.

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Speaker 2: Career do you will you watch performances back to game

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Speaker 2: tape yourself to see how you?

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Speaker 1: Did? Yeah, sometimes OR i. DON'T i was just talking

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Speaker 1: to an actress about, this because a lot of actresses

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Speaker 1: LIKE i don't watch MY tv Show i'm in AND

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Speaker 1: i was, LIKE i can listen to my songs all day,

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Speaker 1: oh let's get into, it because you don't have any

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Speaker 1: those scare me a, Lot LIKE i have to go

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Speaker 1: And i'm terror.

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Speaker 2: Hyde where did you grow up.

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Speaker 1: The Nantucket, Island massachusetts.

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Speaker 2: And you moved To nashville from? Home?

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Speaker 1: Yeah all my friends were in college at that point

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Speaker 1: AND i was at, home traveling TO la And nashville

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Speaker 1: away From, California Like i'm On. NANTUCKET i had to

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Speaker 1: point LIKE i was, like can we just move a little?

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Speaker 1: Closer and my parents were, like absolutely. Not you're not

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Speaker 2: Did you write that song here At?

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Speaker 1: NASHVILLE i wrote it In, Nashville Kevin cadish forty, five

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Speaker 1: wish they played like doop stuff on radio AND i

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Speaker 1: later of pitching the, song everyone being, like we love,

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Speaker 1: it but we don't have an ARTIST i could sing.

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Speaker 1: This La Reata Epic records was, like well who wrote?

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Speaker 1: It just go find? Her and then they started hunting

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Speaker 2: Me you pitched out for nine months before you cut it.

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Speaker 1: Yourself, yeah it was a long time of having that

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Speaker 1: someone was, like we're gonna send this TO A dell's

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Speaker 1: team AND i was, LIKE i doubt Adele w was sing,

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Speaker 1: this but it's sure. AWESOME i can't. Wait, yeah but

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Speaker 2: It when you were living In, nashville were you doing

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Speaker 2: any sort of songwriter rounds and did you ever Consider

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Speaker 2: i'll Just i'll just write for country music that Every nashville.

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Speaker 1: Is felt like you had to do songwriting rounds like

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Speaker 2: Passion is that a thing when you moved To? Nashville

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Speaker 2: was it for? You whenever you look around and everybody's

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Speaker 1: like my weakest SONG i had compared to all my

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Speaker 1: and so different than what was on the radio at the.

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Speaker 1: WHICH i, loved SO i was, like this will never.

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Speaker 1: Work but the music video was so. DIFFERENT i remember

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Speaker 1: what's in right, now AND i was, LIKE i were,

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Speaker 1: Black LIKE i don't understand any of, this and the

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Speaker 1: video just got tossed. Around and THEN i Remember Justin

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Speaker 1: bieber did like a random remix of it on, YouTube

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Speaker 1: AND i called my brother AND i was, like all,

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Speaker 1: this is. It i'm, Successful it's gonna. Happen we're gonna

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Speaker 1: Tiny you need, Tiny, yeah it's like it's like singing

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Speaker 2: Schoolers how long ago did you start on this, record.

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Speaker 2: Cast what do you think about when you go to

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Speaker 1: SONG i get. It you can change it a. Little

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Speaker 1: change the melody so it's easier and more. Realistic i've

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Speaker 1: Yeah, also we're living in Groundhog, day you. Know it's

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Speaker 1: you were, alive and they know all the. Words it

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Speaker 1: It depends on the. Day BUT i always struggled with lyrics,

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Speaker 1: BOOKS i hear. You BUT i was always a melody

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Speaker 1: i am a Rich man AND i was, like we

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Speaker 1: getting concepts like, that And i'll make a whole list

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Speaker 1: if you want that on your, album you're probably gonna cut.

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Speaker 1: It that's exactly what we should do. Today AND i

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Speaker 1: Ideas can you push? Me can you say, no we

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Speaker 1: then SOMETIMES i really don't need, It but some especially

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00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:32,239
Speaker 1: if i'm writing for like a Movie i've been writing it,

430
00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:36,119
Speaker 1: recently where it's LIKE i have to write specifically about

431
00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:39,320
Speaker 1: A christmas movie or something that's like about, Elves i'm, like,

432
00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:44,000
Speaker 1: okay well rhymes with, hoofs you, know And i'll just get.

433
00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:46,240
Speaker 1: Lost but if it's like a pop song THAT i

434
00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:48,280
Speaker 1: know the concept THAT i know what we're talking, ABOUT

435
00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:51,440
Speaker 1: i can like fly through. It but, yeah if it's

436
00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:53,480
Speaker 1: if it's a tricky, One i'm like the rhymes ON

437
00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:54,639
Speaker 1: i don't understand where we?

438
00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:57,800
Speaker 2: Are what is your hardest song to? Sing and you

439
00:19:57,840 --> 00:20:00,880
Speaker 2: look back and, go, MAN i wrote that really, hard me.

440
00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:05,280
Speaker 1: Too going hey ye hate it every. Time in the

441
00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:07,960
Speaker 1: middle of the, SONG i screamed that, part AND i

442
00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:11,200
Speaker 1: After i'm dancing and singing, It i'm, like, well who Did? Hey,

443
00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:13,879
Speaker 1: yeah why AM i singing? This like my ad libs

444
00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:16,320
Speaker 1: are the death of? Me and in the Studio i'm

445
00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:18,400
Speaker 1: SITTING i could scream it out AND i, go, damn

446
00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:20,600
Speaker 1: that sounds, Good and then, LIVE i, GO i hate,

447
00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:22,760
Speaker 1: MYSELF i hate And i've done. THIS i was, Like

448
00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:24,399
Speaker 1: i'm gonna do a level of buy next. Album this is.

449
00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:27,000
Speaker 2: Creaensy if you're, sick will you change the key of

450
00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:28,680
Speaker 2: a song night of if you can't quite get?

451
00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:31,520
Speaker 1: There If i'm, SICK i, don't BUT i will. Go

452
00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:33,959
Speaker 1: you're singing, tonight you KNOW i give it out? MORE

453
00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:37,040
Speaker 1: i go and what AND i you could Tell i'm

454
00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:39,840
Speaker 1: sick IF i got crop our dissipation throughout the whole.

455
00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:41,800
Speaker 2: Song do you ever have to go in and hop

456
00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:43,680
Speaker 2: into like a or have them bring you an ivy

457
00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:45,080
Speaker 2: or do a shot like right before?

458
00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:45,359
Speaker 5: Show?

459
00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:47,280
Speaker 1: YEAH i had two ivs a last, tour AND i

460
00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:49,920
Speaker 1: was on steroids like the BECAUSE i was so. SICK

461
00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:52,920
Speaker 1: i was on anbiotics and steroids for like two weeks

462
00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:54,760
Speaker 1: straight in the middle of, it just to get. By

463
00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:57,280
Speaker 1: BUT i remember my voice was shot AND i took

464
00:20:57,320 --> 00:21:00,439
Speaker 1: the steroid for my like sign it like WHATEVER i.

465
00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:02,600
Speaker 1: HAD i was so ill because the kids were, ill

466
00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:04,880
Speaker 1: AND i remember the stairs kicked in AND i, went

467
00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:08,760
Speaker 1: let's do, this and my voice sounded, impeccable and they were,

468
00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:10,959
Speaker 1: like who's, sick not? You AND i was like, no

469
00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:11,440
Speaker 1: it ah.

470
00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:15,480
Speaker 2: Until the next day IF, i, oh my.

471
00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:19,280
Speaker 1: Gosh, SHOW i was, like oh, oh like in the

472
00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:22,000
Speaker 1: middle of, it, YEAH i, Oh i've squeaked like a

473
00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:24,879
Speaker 1: clarinet and been like AND i just got whoops and

474
00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:25,360
Speaker 1: just keep.

475
00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:28,959
Speaker 2: Going whenever you put out a, record because, again it's

476
00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:30,520
Speaker 2: not a song because people listen to a song in three.

477
00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:34,040
Speaker 2: Minutes but you're going to have this entire, record how

478
00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:36,680
Speaker 2: how quickly do you look to see if people like? It,

479
00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:38,480
Speaker 2: like what's a good? AMOUNT i put out a book

480
00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:40,520
Speaker 2: and that's the worst because you got away like weeks

481
00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:42,840
Speaker 2: you put you have to you gotta put out wait

482
00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:44,520
Speaker 2: weeks to even see if it's any.

483
00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:48,439
Speaker 1: Good what about a, record, man there's there's songs are like.

484
00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:50,879
Speaker 1: IT i have no idea if anyone is HEARING i

485
00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:52,840
Speaker 1: put out two singles so, far AND i have no

486
00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:55,520
Speaker 1: idea if anyone's heard. It and it is the worst

487
00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:58,439
Speaker 1: part of all of this is, like there's NO i

488
00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:00,640
Speaker 1: TOLD i keep telling my managers because they're, like why

489
00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:02,679
Speaker 1: are you going? Crazy And i'm, like cause there's no

490
00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:05,639
Speaker 1: like you hand in your report card and you get a.

491
00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:08,680
Speaker 1: Grade there's no like you're doing, great.

492
00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:11,440
Speaker 6: Sweetie there's none of that it's all, LIKE i hope

493
00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:14,040
Speaker 6: people are hearing it when there's so much chaos going

494
00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:17,480
Speaker 6: on the, world and my managers are straight up telling, me, like,

495
00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:19,720
Speaker 6: listen there's a lot of traffic out.

496
00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:22,359
Speaker 1: There there's a lot going. On the world's. Different we

497
00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:24,600
Speaker 1: don't know how to promote music. Anymore we don't know

498
00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:27,800
Speaker 1: how to get you, heard and all we can do

499
00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:30,840
Speaker 1: is Try and So i'm, like, way So i'm just

500
00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:34,119
Speaker 1: doing tiktoks hoping people use this. Sound like that's WHERE i.

501
00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:36,240
Speaker 1: Go i'm, like, okay ten thousand people have heard it

502
00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:38,800
Speaker 1: because they use this, sound but that's not a lot of.

503
00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:42,000
Speaker 1: People and then what also helps, me that keeps me

504
00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:45,639
Speaker 1: going Is i'll meet random, people like outside at the

505
00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:48,560
Speaker 1: mall or at a store and they, go oh my,

506
00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:50,800
Speaker 1: god and my daughter will not stop Playing Getting.

507
00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:53,720
Speaker 6: Girl AND i go the news hunt really and they're like,

508
00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:55,760
Speaker 6: yeah AND i, GO i don't know if Funny one's.

509
00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:59,960
Speaker 1: Heard so that's really all the only INFORMATION i can

510
00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:02,680
Speaker 1: on If i'm doing okay or not is strangers being,

511
00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:04,800
Speaker 1: like my daughter won't leave me alone with this?

512
00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:08,240
Speaker 2: One AM i? Crazy didn't you write a number one country?

513
00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:11,200
Speaker 2: SONG i? Did Is Rascal flats what was?

514
00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:16,119
Speaker 1: Was, sheha, Yeah dann And Cha shay AND i, said,

515
00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:18,640
Speaker 1: boy you Sound we were both in the, session both

516
00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:20,600
Speaker 1: debating who should sing, it AND i was, like, bro

517
00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:22,480
Speaker 1: let's go To Rascal platz cut you sing. It you

518
00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:25,320
Speaker 1: sound just like, them and he was, Like, Okay i'll sing.

519
00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:26,359
Speaker 1: It AND i was, like it's nice to have a

520
00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:28,840
Speaker 1: break BECAUSE i was always singing in the. Sessions and

521
00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:30,520
Speaker 1: THEN i was, like you should be an artist and

522
00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:32,320
Speaker 1: he's LIKE i am AND i was, like, Oh he's

523
00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:33,679
Speaker 1: like you should be an artists AND i was, like,

524
00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:37,000
Speaker 1: YEAH i want to, be BUT i don't. Know and

525
00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:38,880
Speaker 1: every session they would say that to me Because i'd

526
00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:41,040
Speaker 1: be the session singer and they're, like why aren't you

527
00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:43,040
Speaker 1: putting this? Out AND i was, LIKE i don't have

528
00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:44,159
Speaker 1: like a label or any of that.

529
00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:45,560
Speaker 2: Stuff what was the song was?

530
00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:45,879
Speaker 1: IT i like to?

531
00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:47,760
Speaker 2: Sound what was the song sound on?

532
00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:47,919
Speaker 4: That?

533
00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:55,040
Speaker 2: Yeah like that kind of relaunched those guys because, they you,

534
00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:56,840
Speaker 2: know we got, older had some rough years And i'm

535
00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:58,960
Speaker 2: friends with, them SO i can say this that. Song

536
00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:03,280
Speaker 2: that song kind of relaunched their. CAREER U were you

537
00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:05,639
Speaker 2: writing a bunch for other artists in the country space at?

538
00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:06,800
Speaker 2: All or was that just a rite that.

539
00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:09,119
Speaker 1: Day that was like a write that. Day AND i

540
00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:12,920
Speaker 1: think having all about that bass be released and having

541
00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:15,240
Speaker 1: like the hype of all about that bass definitely, HELPED

542
00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:19,000
Speaker 1: i think get me the cut and because it was

543
00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:21,560
Speaker 1: like such a, cute great song that And shay killed

544
00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:24,720
Speaker 1: the vocal wrote it With Jesse shack in. TOO i loved.

545
00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:27,480
Speaker 1: Him he's always supported me SINCE i was like. Fifteen

546
00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:32,800
Speaker 1: BUT i think the all about that bass being released helped.

547
00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:36,480
Speaker 1: That i'm guessing BECAUSE i remember being like going to the.

548
00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:39,639
Speaker 1: PUBLISHER i believe your name Was alison who hooked this

549
00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:42,280
Speaker 1: up and she played me their voice on my song

550
00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:45,480
Speaker 1: With Carlo wallace While All about that bass was, out

551
00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:47,880
Speaker 1: AND i just, like how are all my dreams coming

552
00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:49,840
Speaker 1: true right? Now at? ONCE i couldn't believe, It LIKE

553
00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:54,360
Speaker 1: i was crying, Listening so that one was just. Crazy.

554
00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:58,720
Speaker 1: Yeah And Laura elena that same Crew jesse shack and

555
00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:01,680
Speaker 1: we wrote one for her with her and she's.

556
00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:03,040
Speaker 2: Amazing, yeah which one was?

557
00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:06,119
Speaker 1: THAT i don't know that take the roleless you?

558
00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:10,320
Speaker 2: Wrote, wait you wrote Road less? Traveled H, well hell,

559
00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:14,520
Speaker 2: yeah my mind is a little bit blown BECAUSE i

560
00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:16,840
Speaker 2: knew that you had written With. SHAY i MEAN i

561
00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:18,919
Speaker 2: was just With lauren yesterday Because lauren just had a,

562
00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:21,080
Speaker 2: baby so her and my wife or how they and

563
00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:23,560
Speaker 2: so we're like very baby centric over, here and So.

564
00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:26,000
Speaker 2: LAUREN i was just talking With. LAUREN i didn't know

565
00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:28,760
Speaker 2: you wrote that, Too so what it could HAVE i

566
00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:31,320
Speaker 2: don't know how how he, Left like with that, success

567
00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:33,240
Speaker 2: did you think Maybe i'd stay In. Nashville i'm crushing.

568
00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:35,240
Speaker 1: IT i KNOW i had. TO i have no. CHOICE

569
00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:37,679
Speaker 1: i had to, go like To germany and promote all

570
00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:40,440
Speaker 1: about that. Base LIKE i was. GONE i was waking

571
00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:42,240
Speaker 1: up in a different. Country we were, LIKE i don't

572
00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:44,400
Speaker 1: know the, maps you, KNOW i don't know WHERE i.

573
00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:47,760
Speaker 1: Am and they were like speak these different languages and

574
00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:50,520
Speaker 1: say my bass. Song AND i was, like, okay SO

575
00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:52,040
Speaker 1: i would. GO i was at a rocket ship AND

576
00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:53,119
Speaker 1: i just had to, go AND i was.

577
00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:56,919
Speaker 2: Terrified last, question what's the most fun stage of a?

578
00:25:56,960 --> 00:26:00,920
Speaker 1: BABY i, mean you haven't got smiles, yet, Right, nah.

579
00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:02,600
Speaker 2: Just if there's farts and that's doesn't.

580
00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:05,400
Speaker 1: Count i'm at two months and she just started smiling

581
00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:09,240
Speaker 1: and it starts at the. Side it's like and it's

582
00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:12,280
Speaker 1: the it's like it takes over your whole. Body that'll

583
00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:14,360
Speaker 1: be your first joy in life with your. Baby when

584
00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:18,840
Speaker 1: they look at, you they recognize you and go ah

585
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:21,240
Speaker 1: and give you the best smile. Ever so that's. Fantastic

586
00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:25,760
Speaker 1: but when they're like sitting up, too oh my, god

587
00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:28,880
Speaker 1: you could play, together because for a while they're just helpless,

588
00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:31,680
Speaker 1: bobbleheads you, know and you're, like oh my my, God.

589
00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:35,359
Speaker 2: Megan thank you rooting for. You hope everything's awesome and

590
00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:36,200
Speaker 2: Hopefully i'll see you.

591
00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:37,760
Speaker 1: Soon thank you so. Much to the.

592
00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:51,600
Speaker 7: Best The Bobby cast will be right. Back this is

593
00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:53,320
Speaker 7: The Bobby, cast all.

594
00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:55,600
Speaker 2: Right that was great For Meghan. TRAINER i also wanted

595
00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:59,080
Speaker 2: to take a couple of minutes because THE ACMs are coming,

596
00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:01,040
Speaker 2: up and so to play a clip from each of

597
00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:04,160
Speaker 2: the winner so. Far this IS Acm New Mail artist

598
00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:07,320
Speaker 2: of The Year Tucker wetmore and it was really cool

599
00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:09,920
Speaker 2: to See tucker win this. Award in this, clip you'll

600
00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:12,520
Speaker 2: Hear tucker AND i talking about his family, background where

601
00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:14,760
Speaker 2: his love for music came, from and if his mom

602
00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:17,639
Speaker 2: supported his music, career which by the, way she's the

603
00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:21,040
Speaker 2: one that also surprised him with THE acm. AWARD i

604
00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:23,200
Speaker 2: believe it was In, london so that was way after

605
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:25,000
Speaker 2: we did. This but here you go a little bit

606
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:27,080
Speaker 2: With Tucker. Wetmore what are the Wet MoES known?

607
00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:33,440
Speaker 8: For oh, gosh that's a great.

608
00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:38,159
Speaker 2: Question take your. TIME i struggle With. Thanksgiving, YEAH i

609
00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:40,160
Speaker 2: asked you a really hard that's a great.

610
00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:45,000
Speaker 8: QUESTION i mean it's gonna sound clichepe of just being.

611
00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:49,000
Speaker 8: KIND i guess my family's. Great my mom's an, angel

612
00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:52,000
Speaker 8: my grandma's known by everybody in the.

613
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:57,680
Speaker 9: COUNTY i don't. Know just living life day.

614
00:27:57,480 --> 00:27:59,200
Speaker 8: By day like everybody, else is what we're known.

615
00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:03,640
Speaker 2: For what's your? Mon she's one of those.

616
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:06,439
Speaker 8: PEOPLE i feel like The Good lord has filled her

617
00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:09,080
Speaker 8: cup with so much love that she doesn't have any

618
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:11,439
Speaker 8: choice but to like spill it onto. Others that's the

619
00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:14,720
Speaker 8: kind of person she, is you, KNOW i always thinking

620
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:20,680
Speaker 8: about other, people very, selfless my number one, fan always

621
00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:21,439
Speaker 8: always in my.

622
00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:24,520
Speaker 2: Corner was she super supportive of you when you wanted

623
00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:25,680
Speaker 2: to start doing.

624
00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:28,360
Speaker 8: Music, yeah she was the one that was, like, absolutely

625
00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:28,639
Speaker 8: go do.

626
00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:30,959
Speaker 2: It did you go to her with the, Hey i'm

627
00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:32,960
Speaker 2: thinking about doing, this or what do you think about

628
00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:35,119
Speaker 2: me doing? This i'm gonna do this in front of?

629
00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:35,800
Speaker 2: You like how did that?

630
00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:35,919
Speaker 1: Go?

631
00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:38,040
Speaker 2: Yeah so it was it was AFTER i dropped out of.

632
00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:41,840
Speaker 8: COLLEGE i was playing football In montana and ended up getting,

633
00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:44,760
Speaker 8: injured like we just talked. About and THEN i moved

634
00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:48,480
Speaker 8: back home and then started playing music again BECAUSE i

635
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:49,800
Speaker 8: started playing music WHEN.

636
00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:50,760
Speaker 9: I was like ten or eleven years.

637
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:54,720
Speaker 8: OLD i started on, piano, guitar, trumpet AND i started

638
00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:57,840
Speaker 8: writing a bunch after after. College and THEN i remember

639
00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:00,719
Speaker 8: shutting her down on a couch like we're sitting right,

640
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:02,440
Speaker 8: now AND i was, Like, MOM i THINK i want

641
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:04,800
Speaker 8: to do this music, thing and she, Goes i've been

642
00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:07,440
Speaker 8: waiting for you to have this conversation with me because you,

643
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:09,360
Speaker 8: know even back in the, day she would always push me, like,

644
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:12,480
Speaker 8: hey you kind of got, something so you should pursue.

645
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:15,040
Speaker 8: That i'm, like but, football you, KNOW i want to play,

646
00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:18,360
Speaker 8: ball and. Uh then it was kind of like a

647
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:21,680
Speaker 8: sur relief FOR i feel, like because she wanted she

648
00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:24,000
Speaker 8: wanted me to do, that and you, know she saw

649
00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:26,320
Speaker 8: something in me THAT i didn't really see at the, time.

650
00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:27,719
Speaker 9: And she was very.

651
00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:31,200
Speaker 8: Supportive help, me help me drive down From. Washington it

652
00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:35,120
Speaker 8: took us like three or four, days AND i HAD

653
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:37,960
Speaker 8: covid actually during that whole, trip so she did most

654
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:41,840
Speaker 8: of the. DRIVING i THINK i did probably four hours

655
00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:45,880
Speaker 8: of driving. Total but she she helped me move and

656
00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:48,080
Speaker 8: then you, know paid some bills WHEN i first moved

657
00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:51,720
Speaker 8: to town BECAUSE i had no, money just a handful

658
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:52,360
Speaker 8: of songs and a.

659
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:56,280
Speaker 2: Dream did she do? Music uh, huh she wasn't musical at. All.

660
00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:58,600
Speaker 2: Nope then how we even playing? Instruments?

661
00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:02,240
Speaker 8: LIKE i have no, IDEA i Guess, Okay SO i

662
00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:05,080
Speaker 8: grew up in the. Church my grandpa is a, pastor and,

663
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:09,400
Speaker 8: uh you, know being around the church my entire, life

664
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:11,880
Speaker 8: literally every single day being the. Church and, uh my

665
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:15,280
Speaker 8: grandma would would sing the. Hymns AND i grew up

666
00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:17,520
Speaker 8: in A samoan, family so they're VERY i don't know

667
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:19,920
Speaker 8: if you ever hung out with like a group Of.

668
00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:21,600
Speaker 2: SAMOANS i never.

669
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:24,080
Speaker 8: Have it's it's a it's a bucket lists.

670
00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:25,560
Speaker 2: ITEM i used to hang out one at a time

671
00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:26,920
Speaker 2: With smoan's never. Done i've never done a.

672
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:29,000
Speaker 8: Group, yeah it's it's a it's a fun.

673
00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:31,920
Speaker 2: Time are You? Simoan a Part?

674
00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:32,440
Speaker 1: Simoan?

675
00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:34,320
Speaker 2: Like are in your? Heart? Though like when you look

676
00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:37,600
Speaker 2: in the, mirror do you see A samoan? Guy I'm

677
00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:38,440
Speaker 2: i'm definitely.

678
00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:39,600
Speaker 9: A mutt in a lot of.

679
00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:42,800
Speaker 8: WAYS i DON'T i don't. KNOW i MEAN i grew

680
00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:45,720
Speaker 8: up Around simoan culture my whole, life especially like in the,

681
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:50,200
Speaker 8: summertime always you, know doing cookouts and listening to reggae

682
00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:52,400
Speaker 8: and you, know all my aunties and uncles and you,

683
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:56,360
Speaker 8: know it's a huge family type. Thing and but, yeah

684
00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:58,880
Speaker 8: to answer your, QUESTION i, Mean smans are very musical

685
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:03,360
Speaker 8: people and very loving people and giving, people and, uh you,

686
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:05,360
Speaker 8: KNOW i just grew up around, that and it was

687
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:07,080
Speaker 8: it was kind of one of those those things, where

688
00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:10,720
Speaker 8: Like i've said this, before but we'll be sitting in

689
00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:13,760
Speaker 8: the in the living room After sunday church we just

690
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:17,280
Speaker 8: had early dinner and watching, football and somebody would start

691
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:19,360
Speaker 8: Singing Amazing grace and then the next, thing you, know

692
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:22,560
Speaker 8: the whole family is just Harmonizing Amazing grace in the living,

693
00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:25,400
Speaker 8: room coming kind of. Thing SO i definitely grew up around,

694
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:29,120
Speaker 8: that AND i think that's that might be where it

695
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:31,520
Speaker 8: kind of stems. From BUT i definitely found my own

696
00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:31,840
Speaker 8: love for.

697
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:41,480
Speaker 2: Music next up is the twenty twenty SIX Acm New

698
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:44,960
Speaker 2: Female artist of The Year, Avery and Now i'm a

699
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:47,720
Speaker 2: massive fan Of avery and her music AND i THINK

700
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:50,480
Speaker 2: i first saw her though On TikTok months ago doing

701
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:53,520
Speaker 2: An Ozzy osbourne cover and we talked about it in

702
00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:55,360
Speaker 2: the long form of this which you can watch On

703
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:57,400
Speaker 2: netflix or go back and listen to the whole. Podcast

704
00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:00,800
Speaker 2: but just a big, fan you know her origin. Story

705
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:02,720
Speaker 2: it's crazy because she started her career and moved To

706
00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:06,720
Speaker 2: nashville at such a young age, likeeen like, SEVENTEEN i

707
00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:11,560
Speaker 2: think sixteen seventeen and blew up. Overnight so Here's avery

708
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:13,800
Speaker 2: AND i talking about her move To nashville and the

709
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:16,720
Speaker 2: pros and definitely the cons of going. Viral you just

710
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:19,239
Speaker 2: knew you wanted to move To. Nashville, NO i.

711
00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:22,320
Speaker 4: DIDN'T i didn't even know this was a possibility for.

712
00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:25,800
Speaker 4: ME i didn't THINK i was that. GOOD i always loved,

713
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:29,040
Speaker 4: music and it was music was more of like a like,

714
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:31,120
Speaker 4: breathing LIKE i, said for, me it was a very

715
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:34,000
Speaker 4: private thing UNLESS i was singing in. Church and WHEN

716
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:37,000
Speaker 4: i went viral for singing in the bathtub DURING, covid

717
00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:41,200
Speaker 4: and THEN i got in contact with my managers AND

718
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:43,960
Speaker 4: i signed a record deal AND i moved like AFTER

719
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:46,280
Speaker 4: i signed a record in that, order in that, order

720
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:49,720
Speaker 4: and within this span of six, MONTHS i got in

721
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:55,280
Speaker 4: contact with my Manager's october twenty, twenty and then we

722
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:58,760
Speaker 4: started releasing some music and THEN i had like every

723
00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:01,640
Speaker 4: now in. HINDSIZIGHT i had like every label in town

724
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:03,479
Speaker 4: wanting to meet with, me AND i met with LIKE

725
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:06,240
Speaker 4: i think we did like thirteen zoom, meetings and THEN

726
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:07,400
Speaker 4: i signed With.

727
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:09,280
Speaker 2: Warner how do you pick a label when you're only

728
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:09,840
Speaker 2: meeting with them Over?

729
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:10,880
Speaker 4: ZOOM i don't.

730
00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:11,840
Speaker 1: KNOW i don't.

731
00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:15,520
Speaker 4: KNOW i Just i'm a very spiritual, person very like,

732
00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:19,560
Speaker 4: intuitive LIKE i trust my gut most of the. Time

733
00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 4: AND i just felt really good About, warner and they

734
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:25,480
Speaker 4: just felt very endearing and like they actually cared about

735
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:27,360
Speaker 4: WHAT i had to, say not just kind of like

736
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:33,120
Speaker 4: wanting to sign a viral sensation and let it be

737
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:36,440
Speaker 4: what it. Is it felt like. Genuine SO i, signed

738
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:40,160
Speaker 4: and THEN i moved AND i didn't even, know LIKE

739
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:41,960
Speaker 4: i knew about The Grand O, opry BUT i didn't

740
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:45,240
Speaker 4: really know That nashville was like the place you go to,

741
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:50,360
Speaker 4: become you, know a country music. STAR i GUESS i

742
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:52,720
Speaker 4: should have known, that BUT i just didn't really like

743
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:54,280
Speaker 4: put the pieces together in my. HEAD i didn't even

744
00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:56,400
Speaker 4: know WHAT i wanted to do with my. Life and

745
00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:59,000
Speaker 4: THEN i was just like this feels, right AND i.

746
00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:02,920
Speaker 4: MOVED i lived in the house by myself for like,

747
00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:04,680
Speaker 4: WELL i was finishing. School was.

748
00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:07,160
Speaker 2: Seventeen at, seventeen were you?

749
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:11,400
Speaker 4: Emancipated, No, no my parents are very supportive of. ME

750
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:13,279
Speaker 4: i just have three other. Siblings they had lives to

751
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:18,680
Speaker 4: do and work to, do AND i am self. SUFFICIENT

752
00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:23,759
Speaker 4: i was just LIKE i Just i'm very. Indecisive LIKE i,

753
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:26,520
Speaker 4: SAID i brought two, records but that was the only

754
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:28,680
Speaker 4: decision in my life That i've ever been, like this

755
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:30,200
Speaker 4: is the right thing to, do AND i know. It

756
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:34,200
Speaker 4: AND i remember telling my mom, that and everyone in my,

757
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:37,080
Speaker 4: family like my extended family and our friends and everyone

758
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:38,799
Speaker 4: in my town thought THAT i was, crazy and then

759
00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:40,600
Speaker 4: my parents are crazy for letting me do. That BUT

760
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:45,279
Speaker 4: i think both of my parents and myself just felt

761
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:46,680
Speaker 4: a lot of peace that it was like the right.

762
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:50,319
Speaker 2: THING i don't know what Is nashville. Like when you

763
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:52,239
Speaker 2: move here and start to see other people who are

764
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:55,080
Speaker 2: doing what you're trying to, do it's really.

765
00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:58,839
Speaker 4: Cool you would think that it's, intimidating and it is at,

766
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:02,200
Speaker 4: times BUT I i just feel like the little girl

767
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 4: inside of me that wanted to talk to everyone About

768
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:08,279
Speaker 4: Patsy klein that no one really cared because everyone called Me.

769
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:10,279
Speaker 4: Grandma growing, UP i just loved the classic. Country but

770
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:13,960
Speaker 4: everyone here has their, own you, know music, taste and

771
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:16,240
Speaker 4: everyone's really passionate about, it and there's so much. Talent

772
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:19,839
Speaker 4: it was just really like, CREATIVELY i was like, very very,

773
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:22,879
Speaker 4: stimulated AND i was just starry eyed at. It i'd

774
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:26,239
Speaker 4: never even been to the side of the, country SO

775
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:28,400
Speaker 4: i didn't know that there's this many trees.

776
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:28,960
Speaker 1: Here AND.

777
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:33,000
Speaker 4: I REMEMBER i was like driving down the road AND

778
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:34,719
Speaker 4: i was, like one of these, Days i'm going to

779
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:37,799
Speaker 4: plow down one of these mailboxes and trash cans because

780
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:40,200
Speaker 4: the roads are so narrow. Too it's a lot of

781
00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:43,200
Speaker 4: things That it was a very big culture shock for

782
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:45,200
Speaker 4: me going From arizona to Like.

783
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:48,719
Speaker 2: Tennessee what do you do at eighteen nineteen years old,

784
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:51,640
Speaker 2: here when you're living by? Yourself when you make? Friends?

785
00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:53,360
Speaker 2: Right do you go to? Songwriter around's, like how do

786
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:53,879
Speaker 2: you make your?

787
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:56,800
Speaker 4: CIRCLE i met a lot of my friends at, church

788
00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:58,480
Speaker 4: but it was really hard for me BECAUSE i wasn't

789
00:35:58,480 --> 00:35:59,920
Speaker 4: going to school or, anything so it wasn't LIKE i

790
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:04,920
Speaker 4: had like people my age to socialize. WITH i was

791
00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:08,719
Speaker 4: really just writing all the time with people that, were you,

792
00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:12,279
Speaker 4: know late, twenties, thirties, forties so all my friends were

793
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:15,600
Speaker 4: way older than me BECAUSE i consider like the people

794
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 4: THAT i write with my friends and like my brothers,

795
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:22,480
Speaker 4: Too SO i remember my first co write was With

796
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:24,640
Speaker 4: Ben williams And Andy sheridan and they're still like my

797
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:27,719
Speaker 4: big brothers to this. Day so that was really. Cool and,

798
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:32,160
Speaker 4: YEAH i met people at church AND i like went

799
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:34,000
Speaker 4: to the grocery store and didn't know what to buy

800
00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:38,360
Speaker 4: AND i was, LIKE i bought an avocado and some

801
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:41,880
Speaker 4: apples and. BEEF i still don't really know how to

802
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:45,200
Speaker 4: cook Because i'm touring now AND i don't really need you.

803
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:51,680
Speaker 2: To but, yeah what's it like to go? Viral looks?

804
00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:56,680
Speaker 4: Fabulous i'm sure you totally, Understand but looks fabulous when

805
00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:58,640
Speaker 4: you're on the other side of the screen and when

806
00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:01,440
Speaker 4: you're looking at all the millions of views and, Likes

807
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:04,520
Speaker 4: and it's really cool because it gave me my, career really,

808
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:07,680
Speaker 4: did So i'm really grateful for what it. Is but

809
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:12,920
Speaker 4: the adrenaline dump after going viral is a big thing.

810
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:14,399
Speaker 4: Too that was challenging THAT i wasn't.

811
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:15,839
Speaker 2: Anticipating what do you mean by?

812
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:20,360
Speaker 4: That it's interesting to go from music being something that

813
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:23,239
Speaker 4: you do for fun to all of the sudden it's your.

814
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:29,839
Speaker 4: Livelihood and when you go, viral it's instant. Gratification it's very.

815
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:32,919
Speaker 4: Stimulating you are kind of on like a cloud. Nine

816
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:36,640
Speaker 4: and then if your next video only gets a thousand

817
00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:39,880
Speaker 4: views rather than two million, views it's, like, oh if

818
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:42,359
Speaker 4: this gave me my, success could it also ta get?

819
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:47,640
Speaker 4: Away and that that thought was something THAT i struggled

820
00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:52,760
Speaker 4: with a lot in the, beginning AND i was very

821
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:58,239
Speaker 4: conscious of WHAT i was posting and and trying, to you,

822
00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:01,480
Speaker 4: know still be as good AS i was WHEN i was,

823
00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:04,759
Speaker 4: megaviral AND i don't, know you kind of just learn

824
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 4: the longer that you do it that it's just it

825
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:11,200
Speaker 4: all comes in, waves and what's genuine and authentic will

826
00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:13,400
Speaker 4: always work for. You and if you're trying to be something,

827
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:17,360
Speaker 4: else if you're trying to be, viral if you're trying

828
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:21,279
Speaker 4: to be you, know, commercial if you're, not if you're

829
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:23,200
Speaker 4: trying to be, artsy if you're, not it's just not

830
00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:26,359
Speaker 4: going to. Work you just have to really go with

831
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:29,000
Speaker 4: your gut and say what you want to, say and

832
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:31,719
Speaker 4: not just say something to say.

833
00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:33,000
Speaker 5: Something you, know WHAT i.

834
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:36,160
Speaker 2: Mean, yeah not just add to your feed because you

835
00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:37,200
Speaker 2: feel like you need to add to your.

836
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:39,600
Speaker 4: Feed, right not JUST i think that that's a very

837
00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:43,120
Speaker 4: it works for a lot of, people and a lot

838
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:45,759
Speaker 4: of people have found success that way from being consistently

839
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:48,760
Speaker 4: posting every single, day like three videos a, day and

840
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:51,000
Speaker 4: AND i had a lot of pressure to do that

841
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:55,480
Speaker 4: very early, on and it just it's just not right

842
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:59,759
Speaker 4: and it's not natural for people to, like, surely no

843
00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:01,680
Speaker 4: one has something to say three times a.

844
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:03,440
Speaker 2: Day, NO i, don't AND i have to talk for

845
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:04,040
Speaker 2: six hours a.

846
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:07,480
Speaker 4: Day, Sure AND i feel very it sucked the creativity

847
00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:10,279
Speaker 4: out of me UNTIL i realized how to set boundaries with.

848
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:22,279
Speaker 7: It The Bobby cast will be right, back and we're

849
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:23,600
Speaker 7: back on The Bobby.

850
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:27,799
Speaker 2: Cast, now let's get over To Steven Wilson, junior who

851
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:30,800
Speaker 2: already won his FIRST acm this, year taking home The

852
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:33,560
Speaker 2: Visual media of The year award for his music video

853
00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:36,680
Speaker 2: for his Song. Cuckoo stephen has a very interesting origin

854
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:39,760
Speaker 2: story because he was a scientist who dropped his career

855
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:42,480
Speaker 2: to chase his dream of being a. Musician i'm a

856
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:44,440
Speaker 2: big fan of this, guy AND i asked him if

857
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:46,120
Speaker 2: he had any idea what he wanted to do for

858
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:47,680
Speaker 2: a career when he was finishing.

859
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:48,960
Speaker 9: COLLEGE i didn't know.

860
00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:52,600
Speaker 5: Exactly WHEN i graduated with my degree in micro and,

861
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:56,520
Speaker 5: CHEMISTRY i was, gonna honestly go get my medical doctorate

862
00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:56,759
Speaker 5: or at.

863
00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:59,239
Speaker 9: PhD that was my, first.

864
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:03,320
Speaker 5: My next up because in you, know the applied, sciences

865
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:05,480
Speaker 5: without a, PhD it's gonna be.

866
00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:06,520
Speaker 9: Tough that was my.

867
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:09,520
Speaker 5: Plan AND i ended up starting this indie rock band

868
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:13,560
Speaker 5: the last semester of my senior year of. College and

869
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:16,680
Speaker 5: what was the name of the, Band, Autovka AND i

870
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:20,320
Speaker 5: was a lead guitar, player played this green stratocaster THAT

871
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:23,320
Speaker 5: i still have today and it's A jeff beckstrat and

872
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:28,120
Speaker 5: we just started playing BECAUSE i was playing. MUSIC i

873
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:31,040
Speaker 5: was playing in jazz bands and university AND i was

874
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:34,040
Speaker 5: a self taught guitar, player BUT i was a serious

875
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:38,279
Speaker 5: jazz nerd and rock and roll, nerd and people would

876
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:42,320
Speaker 5: hear me playing in dorms and. Stuff and WHEN i

877
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:48,080
Speaker 5: moved To, NASHVILLE i met some friends THAT i knew

878
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:50,239
Speaker 5: from the previous college THAT i went, to and they

879
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:52,960
Speaker 5: asked If i'd want to just play in this, band

880
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:54,759
Speaker 5: AND i was, like, SURE i had nothing better to

881
00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:58,520
Speaker 5: do outside of my, degree AND i was almost. Finished and,

882
00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:01,680
Speaker 5: anyway we started playing shows and before we knew, it

883
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:04,840
Speaker 5: we had like a manager and we made a, record

884
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:06,520
Speaker 5: and before we know we were on tour with these.

885
00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:09,960
Speaker 5: Bands SO i went and played in indie rock bands

886
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:14,520
Speaker 5: right AFTER i graduated from, college not really planning to do.

887
00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:17,719
Speaker 5: That they just this opportunity just kind of came up

888
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:20,400
Speaker 5: AND i couldn't really say no to. It it was

889
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:25,120
Speaker 5: such a cool experience to. Have BUT i, learned you,

890
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:28,359
Speaker 5: know how to handle a, crowd AND i learned how

891
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:31,040
Speaker 5: to sing BECAUSE i became a background vocalist in that,

892
00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:33,920
Speaker 5: band AND i was writing or co writing the songs

893
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:37,160
Speaker 5: with the lead. Singer and that's WHY i, really for

894
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:39,319
Speaker 5: the first time saw a song That i'd written or

895
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:42,359
Speaker 5: co written And i'd see people like react to it

896
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:44,719
Speaker 5: or start singing, it AND i was, LIKE, whoa that's

897
00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:45,640
Speaker 5: a that's a new.

898
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:47,959
Speaker 9: Experience and SO.

899
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:52,239
Speaker 5: I really became enamored with, that you, know BECAUSE i

900
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:54,920
Speaker 5: was super into poetry and. SONGWRITING i was kind of

901
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:58,840
Speaker 5: like a secret, songwriter you, know outside of my science.

902
00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:01,480
Speaker 5: Stuff it was my own little. Secret BUT i wasn't

903
00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:04,320
Speaker 5: singing them or. ANYTHING i was just writing these poems

904
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:07,839
Speaker 5: And STANZAS i had books of, them and my mama did.

905
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:10,239
Speaker 5: THAT i used to find her like writing poems on

906
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:13,880
Speaker 5: junk mail and throwing them. Away AND i just picked

907
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 5: that up AND i channeled that into that band and

908
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 5: then kind of saw those poems come to life in that,

909
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:24,640
Speaker 5: band AND i was, like this is a really special.

910
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:27,239
Speaker 5: Thing you like music and being a creator of. It

911
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:29,480
Speaker 5: i'm not sure if this is is this my career?

912
00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:31,560
Speaker 9: PATH i don't. Know you have a job at this.

913
00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:33,400
Speaker 2: POINT i was in nine to.

914
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:35,680
Speaker 9: FIVE i was working as a contracted.

915
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:38,840
Speaker 2: Scientist so you were doing that while you were. Touring

916
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:42,520
Speaker 2: how did? YOU i feel like you're a, scientist you're

917
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:42,840
Speaker 2: kind of.

918
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:47,359
Speaker 5: Stationary, YEAH i was working contract to, contract So i'd

919
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:49,640
Speaker 5: work at one lab AND i work at another lab

920
00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:51,880
Speaker 5: for a, week AND i kind of work around our touring.

921
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:55,160
Speaker 5: Schedule and there is this company in town that is

922
00:42:55,200 --> 00:43:01,239
Speaker 5: a staffing agency for scientists like, chemists, microbiologists and. Engineers

923
00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:04,360
Speaker 5: think of it like a staffing agency for, anything.

924
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:06,200
Speaker 9: But specialized for the applied.

925
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:11,080
Speaker 5: Sciences so you, know some businesses and some laboratories would

926
00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:13,880
Speaker 5: need a, scientist but not. Permanently they just need it

927
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:16,840
Speaker 5: for like six months on this project or six weeks

928
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:20,399
Speaker 5: or maybe six. Days and there was the contracts could

929
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:23,120
Speaker 5: be as interesting as you could think, of as long

930
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:26,120
Speaker 5: as you could, imagine and you can take them or leave.

931
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:28,040
Speaker 9: Them and they were hourly and they.

932
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:30,120
Speaker 5: Would get their cut and you get your, cut and

933
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:33,160
Speaker 5: you could just kind of walk, away go on. Tour

934
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:36,319
Speaker 5: maybe another contract would come. In AND i kept doing

935
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:39,040
Speaker 5: good work and kept doing, contracts AND i eventually got

936
00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:42,799
Speaker 5: one for this, Company, mars the food, company and they

937
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:46,520
Speaker 5: kept giving me contract after, contract and one day they just, said,

938
00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:48,920
Speaker 5: hey we want to stop giving you these contracts and

939
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:52,880
Speaker 5: just give you an employment contract and like hire you for,

940
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:55,959
Speaker 5: real and they kind of that was like the first

941
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:58,920
Speaker 5: Time i'd ever been offered a job like, that AND i.

942
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:03,279
Speaker 5: COULDN'T i just married my wife and, kid AND i

943
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:05,719
Speaker 5: had a, kid you, know a step son through, her

944
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:08,360
Speaker 5: and you, KNOW i was in that indie band, still

945
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:12,600
Speaker 5: and SO i made a decision to kind of leave

946
00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:15,040
Speaker 5: the van and tray their life and go into full time.

947
00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:17,160
Speaker 9: Science and that was my.

948
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:20,480
Speaker 5: Life AND i was kind of doing the whole corporate

949
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:24,640
Speaker 5: thing and how long for three and a half four,

950
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:29,319
Speaker 5: years AND i had a really great boss BECAUSE i

951
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:31,960
Speaker 5: was writing songs the whole. TIME i could almost like

952
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:34,080
Speaker 5: work in a lab and do my work with one

953
00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:37,839
Speaker 5: hand and write songs with the. Other AND i had

954
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:40,400
Speaker 5: a great boss that had been there for quite some,

955
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:45,200
Speaker 5: time and you, know he kind of saw myself and,

956
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:49,279
Speaker 5: him you, know some years, ago AND i think he

957
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:52,000
Speaker 5: knew where my heart. Was he KNEW i wasn't supposed

958
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:55,319
Speaker 5: to be. There in the weirdest, WAY i think he knew.

959
00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:59,239
Speaker 5: That and he told, Me, hey they're about to put

960
00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:02,360
Speaker 5: the golden hand on. You that's What he was a

961
00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:05,719
Speaker 5: really powerful. Metaphor And i'm a word, nerd and he

962
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:08,799
Speaker 5: knew THAT i like, words and that he knew that

963
00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:11,719
Speaker 5: was going to do something to. Me and, uh he,

964
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:13,560
Speaker 5: said take you, know do with that what you. Will

965
00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:15,799
Speaker 5: but you know you're doing great, here but they're going

966
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:18,520
Speaker 5: to chain you to that desk and your dreams of

967
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:21,239
Speaker 5: being a songwriter are are going to die with.

968
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:22,719
Speaker 9: It AND i said that to.

969
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:26,880
Speaker 5: You, Yeah and SO i, said you, know it's going

970
00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:29,480
Speaker 5: to be impossible to blow your world. Up then you're

971
00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:33,080
Speaker 5: going to have a better, car a better, house maybe

972
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:36,680
Speaker 5: your kid in private. School blowing up that world's going

973
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:40,960
Speaker 5: to be very, hard if not. IMPOSSIBLE I i'd recommend

974
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:44,160
Speaker 5: you blow it up now while there's less pieces to pick,

975
00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:48,080
Speaker 5: up and it's going to be, terrible BUT i think

976
00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:50,680
Speaker 5: it's going to be way more, terrible if not. Impossible

977
00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:53,880
Speaker 5: AND i fear that you, know your inability to do

978
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:57,359
Speaker 5: that later would just be a heartbreaking situation for. You

979
00:45:57,440 --> 00:45:58,880
Speaker 5: AND i just want you to know that's kind of

980
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:01,400
Speaker 5: coming down the. PIKE i see it like ten years

981
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:06,120
Speaker 5: down the road for, you just, saying you, know, cheers

982
00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:06,960
Speaker 5: have a good.

983
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:10,160
Speaker 9: DAY i put in my two.

984
00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:13,640
Speaker 5: Weeks six weeks after that, CONVERSATION i walked out of,

985
00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:17,880
Speaker 5: there and you, know everybody THOUGHT i was, Crazy like

986
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:18,480
Speaker 5: what are you going to?

987
00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:20,080
Speaker 9: Do like they all THOUGHT i was like going To

988
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:21,520
Speaker 9: nestle or, something.

989
00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:23,319
Speaker 8: AND i was, Like nestley get.

990
00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:27,439
Speaker 5: You AND i was like, no, no, No nashville. Did

991
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:30,719
Speaker 5: and they're, like where are you Gonna so you're gonna

992
00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:33,840
Speaker 5: go write songs for? SOMEBODY i was, like, no like

993
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:37,879
Speaker 5: you got a publishing. Deal, no someone's cutting your, songs. Right,

994
00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:41,839
Speaker 5: no have you ever sang a song? Before, no so.

995
00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:42,879
Speaker 2: At this point you weren't even.

996
00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:45,880
Speaker 5: Singing, No i'd never sang a song for anybody in my,

997
00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:50,080
Speaker 5: life and so that Was you, know that was a

998
00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:54,080
Speaker 5: lot to come to come to terms, with but you

999
00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:56,160
Speaker 5: know it was a real leap of. Faith you KNOW

1000
00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:59,759
Speaker 5: i had, this you know WHAT i call a great

1001
00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:01,880
Speaker 5: string with a capital p.

1002
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:04,759
Speaker 2: ALL i thank you, guys hope you enjoyed This. Bobbycast

1003
00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:08,279
Speaker 2: we had a few thanks to making a, trainer and

1004
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:10,960
Speaker 2: congrats to all those guys who already WON ACMs this.

1005
00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:14,280
Speaker 2: Year so we'll see you guys real soon on another

1006
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:18,160
Speaker 2: episode of The Bobby. Cast, bye, everybody thanks for listening

1007
00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:19,680
Speaker 2: to A Bobby cast production