WEBVTT - Bloomberg Daybreak: December 2, 2022 - Hour 2 (Radio) 0:00:01.920 --> 0:00:05.320 Markets, headlines and breaking news twenty four hours a day 0:00:05.440 --> 0:00:08.119 at Bloomberg dot com for the the Bloomberg Business at and 0:00:08.280 --> 0:00:18.680 at Bloomberg Quicktape. He's a Bloomberg Business Flash. I'm Nathan Hagar. 0:00:18.800 --> 0:00:21.959 Futures are treading water as we await November jobs. Let's 0:00:21.960 --> 0:00:23.880 head right over to the First Room breaking news desk 0:00:23.960 --> 0:00:27.200 for today's morning call. Here's Bill Maloney. Good Friday morning, Bill, 0:00:27.760 --> 0:00:30.640 and good morning Nathan. That's right. Modest losses in the 0:00:30.720 --> 0:00:32.879 U S futures right now. Deaf futures down forty four 0:00:32.880 --> 0:00:35.159 point says to be dropped four and as that futures 0:00:35.159 --> 0:00:38.560 declined by nineteen the US ten year old at three 0:00:38.560 --> 0:00:41.280 point five one percent, Gold is down four, Oil is 0:00:41.280 --> 0:00:44.479 a little change, and Bitcoin is training higher by half percent. 0:00:44.880 --> 0:00:47.440 Japan fell one point six percent over night, while European 0:00:47.479 --> 0:00:49.880 markets are little changed this morning. And back in the 0:00:49.960 --> 0:00:52.400 US on the economic front, you mentioned those jobs reports 0:00:52.479 --> 0:00:55.400 at eight thirty after the bell Essonnate Aulti Beauty qu 0:00:55.480 --> 0:00:58.200 three beat estimates, and in other news, UBS cut its 0:00:58.200 --> 0:01:02.920 iPhone forecast by sixteen million units on COVID and demand issues. 0:01:03.240 --> 0:01:05.240 Wrapping things up, Echo Lab was put the equay to 0:01:05.280 --> 0:01:07.760 Barkley's Jorge ash was cut. The second perform at RBC 0:01:08.319 --> 0:01:11.600 on Slower Order of Growth. Live from the first breaking 0:01:11.640 --> 0:01:14.160 new stascon Bill Maloy, Nathan Okay, Bill, thanks to you 0:01:14.160 --> 0:01:16.800 get live breaking news over your Bloomberg type squawk on 0:01:16.880 --> 0:01:19.680 your terminal s q U A go. That's the Bloomberg 0:01:19.720 --> 0:01:22.080 Business Flash. Now here's Michael Barr with more on what's 0:01:22.080 --> 0:01:25.080 going on around the world. Michael, thank you very much. Nathan. 0:01:25.080 --> 0:01:28.200 It is a victory for the Justice Department's criminal investigation 0:01:28.280 --> 0:01:32.040 into Donald Trump's handling of White House documents. A Federal 0:01:32.040 --> 0:01:34.720 Appeals scored rule to judge was wrong by appointing a 0:01:34.760 --> 0:01:38.600 special master to review material sees from the former president 0:01:38.640 --> 0:01:42.679 Sammara Lago Home. Congress has avoided what President Biden says 0:01:42.760 --> 0:01:45.800 could have been a Christmas catastrophe. The Senate voted to 0:01:45.840 --> 0:01:49.160 pass a bill to averted looming rail strike NFL. The 0:01:49.160 --> 0:01:53.760 Bills beat the Patriot NHL. Both the Devils and Capitals 0:01:53.840 --> 0:01:57.120 lost in ot at the World Cup. Four games today, 0:01:57.160 --> 0:02:00.640 including Cameroon against Brazil. 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The U S Space Force 0:03:05.639 --> 0:03:08.800 says Australia will be a critical asset for growing strategic 0:03:08.840 --> 0:03:13.680 competition with China, citing its geographical position and advanced research capabilities, 0:03:13.960 --> 0:03:16.920 and global goods trade will shrink next year, according to 0:03:16.960 --> 0:03:22.279 Oxford Economics, signaling a concerning forecast for Asia's export dependent economies. 0:03:22.320 --> 0:03:25.720 The report sites China's economic slowdown and energy price shock 0:03:25.800 --> 0:03:29.600 in Europe, rising interest rates, and protectionism as factors behind 0:03:29.639 --> 0:03:31.959 the trade outlook. That's the Bloomberg and j I. T 0:03:32.240 --> 0:03:35.200 Stem Report. Amy, all right, thank you, Nathan. We're live 0:03:35.240 --> 0:03:38.280 from the Bloomberg Interactive Broker Studios, where it is six 0:03:38.280 --> 0:03:40.720 fifty one on Wall Street. Talk out to check what's 0:03:40.720 --> 0:03:43.000 going on in d C. And some of the top 0:03:43.080 --> 0:03:46.600 stories in our nation's capital include President Biden signaling that 0:03:46.640 --> 0:03:50.160 Democrats are moving on from Iowa. The President also says 0:03:50.160 --> 0:03:52.520 he's open to talks with Vladimir Putin about ending the 0:03:52.520 --> 0:03:55.600 war in Ukraine. Donald Trump lost it at a court case, 0:03:55.720 --> 0:03:59.280 this one that special master review, and all eyes on 0:03:59.320 --> 0:04:02.480 the Senate run off in Georgia. We welcome Bloomberg Washington 0:04:02.560 --> 0:04:06.920 correspondent Joe Matthew, Host of Sound Donnie joins us. Now, Joe, 0:04:06.920 --> 0:04:09.360 thanks so much for taking the time this morning. President 0:04:09.400 --> 0:04:13.480 Biden proposing some sweeping changes to the Democratic nominating calendar. 0:04:14.000 --> 0:04:16.560 What's the strategy here, Yeah, this is something that the 0:04:16.600 --> 0:04:19.080 strategy is to give more people of color of voice 0:04:19.240 --> 0:04:21.479 in the early nominating process. And this is not a 0:04:21.520 --> 0:04:24.520 new idea. We've been hearing challenges to the lineup every 0:04:24.560 --> 0:04:27.960 four years for some time now. Because Iowa and New 0:04:28.000 --> 0:04:32.080 Hampshire are tiny states that are more than nine white, 0:04:32.680 --> 0:04:35.159 and President Biden says the calendar is structured in a 0:04:35.160 --> 0:04:38.880 way that does not give more diverse people a chance 0:04:39.000 --> 0:04:41.440 to weigh in on candidates early enough to make a difference. 0:04:41.440 --> 0:04:43.600 Obviously they get a chance here, but once you get 0:04:43.640 --> 0:04:46.560 through Iowa and New Hampshire, the field has been winnowed 0:04:46.560 --> 0:04:50.600 down so much. Democrats, we're also upset about long delays. 0:04:50.720 --> 0:04:53.640 You might remember in twenty in tabulating results in Iowa. 0:04:53.680 --> 0:04:56.440 So Iowa was already at a deficit, and it's it's 0:04:56.440 --> 0:04:59.960 got a fully Republican congressional delegation now and Joe by 0:05:00.040 --> 0:05:02.880 and doesn't think the party should be using caucuses at all. 0:05:03.320 --> 0:05:05.800 So he wants to make South Carolina the first in 0:05:05.839 --> 0:05:08.600 the nation primary state. Imagine this followed by New Hampshire, 0:05:09.040 --> 0:05:12.240 then Nevada, then Georgia and Michigan. That's what it would 0:05:12.240 --> 0:05:13.800 look like. And by the way, those are all the 0:05:13.839 --> 0:05:17.760 states that favored Joe Biden in It's still got to 0:05:17.800 --> 0:05:20.000 be ratified by the d n c's rules and by 0:05:20.080 --> 0:05:23.080 Lass Committee, which meets today, and then it would have 0:05:23.120 --> 0:05:25.200 to be approved by the full d n C in February. 0:05:25.279 --> 0:05:27.960 It may well pass. But you know, Andy, we've seen 0:05:28.000 --> 0:05:31.120 this movie before and not necessarily coming from the President 0:05:31.200 --> 0:05:33.000 like this, But I have to remind you New Hampshire 0:05:33.120 --> 0:05:35.760 specifically has a state law that says they will hold 0:05:35.800 --> 0:05:38.920 the nation's first primary no matter what, So schedule South 0:05:38.960 --> 0:05:41.560 Carolina whenever you want. New Hampshire will put its primary 0:05:41.560 --> 0:05:44.440 a week earlier and simply schedule its own primary. So 0:05:44.720 --> 0:05:47.240 this is not quite as clear as it might seem 0:05:47.279 --> 0:05:50.160 in the headline. Okay, we're gonna keep watching that with you. Meanwhile, 0:05:50.200 --> 0:05:53.719 the President also says he will talk with Vladimir Putin 0:05:53.720 --> 0:05:55.760 about the war in Ukraine, but only if the Russian 0:05:55.839 --> 0:05:59.359 leader is serious about ending his invasion of Ukraine. And 0:05:59.600 --> 0:06:02.120 that has happened yet. Well, that's for sure, And to 0:06:02.200 --> 0:06:05.520 be clear, he was clarifying remarks. This came from a 0:06:05.600 --> 0:06:09.560 joint news conference the Bilateral news conference yesterday with Immanuel 0:06:09.640 --> 0:06:11.520 McCrone in the East Room of the White House, and 0:06:11.520 --> 0:06:14.039 the President first said when he was asked if he 0:06:14.080 --> 0:06:16.280 planned to meet with Pooty said no, I have no plans. 0:06:16.279 --> 0:06:18.400 And he said, well, let me just clarifying that. He 0:06:18.400 --> 0:06:20.280 thought for a second. He said, I will meet with 0:06:20.360 --> 0:06:23.239 him when he's ready to come to the negotiating table. 0:06:23.600 --> 0:06:25.680 We've heard this line before. He said, you know, Putin 0:06:25.760 --> 0:06:28.240 can leave Ukraine whenever he wants, but none of this 0:06:28.320 --> 0:06:31.080 is happening right now. He said, you know, he'll he'll 0:06:31.080 --> 0:06:33.320 speak with him if there is an interest in him 0:06:33.320 --> 0:06:35.200 deciding that he's looking for a way to end the war. 0:06:35.240 --> 0:06:37.799 And we don't see any effort, certainly ahead of winter 0:06:38.200 --> 0:06:40.400 of Vladimir Putin to be looking for an off ramp. 0:06:40.400 --> 0:06:43.640 He has been just uh, just just sending missile after 0:06:43.680 --> 0:06:47.119 missile into Ukraine, targeting civilian infrastructure. There were reports today 0:06:47.160 --> 0:06:50.560 that say he's preparing for another huge barrage this weekend. Now, 0:06:50.560 --> 0:06:52.440 he had also said that he wouldn't talk with Putin 0:06:52.560 --> 0:06:55.359 unless Ukraine's leaders were involved in that discussion. So I 0:06:55.360 --> 0:06:57.360 wondered if that was some sort of pivot, if something 0:06:57.360 --> 0:06:59.760 had changed, or if he was just clarifying. No, I 0:06:59.800 --> 0:07:02.280 think it's more clarifying. And Emmanuel McCrone said the same 0:07:02.320 --> 0:07:03.800 thing as well. You know this, this has been coming 0:07:03.800 --> 0:07:06.120 from the White House since the very beginning. Uh, they 0:07:06.120 --> 0:07:09.120 won't do anything without Ukraine. Ukraine needs to make its 0:07:09.160 --> 0:07:12.120 own decisions here. We're playing a supporting role in all 0:07:12.160 --> 0:07:14.720 of this. But there are concerns about what's going to happen, 0:07:15.080 --> 0:07:18.120 for instance, to spending, to funding the war in Ukraine. 0:07:18.120 --> 0:07:20.440 As we head into the new year with a new 0:07:20.480 --> 0:07:24.600 Republican majority in the House. Kevin McCarthy, likely to be 0:07:24.640 --> 0:07:26.960 the next speaker, says no more blank checks. And you're 0:07:27.000 --> 0:07:30.280 hearing from a number of members of the Republican Party, UH, 0:07:30.320 --> 0:07:33.080 including Marjorie Tayler Green, Matt Gates, some others who say 0:07:33.120 --> 0:07:37.400 they will not approve one more dollar for Ukraine. So 0:07:37.600 --> 0:07:39.480 what happens in the next couple of weeks in this 0:07:39.560 --> 0:07:41.680 lame duck session, we're hearing something in the area of 0:07:41.720 --> 0:07:44.679 thirty seven billion dollars. That will be the next tronch 0:07:44.720 --> 0:07:46.560 and then we'll see what happens after that. By the way, 0:07:46.840 --> 0:07:49.440 Ukraine is asking for more than weapons. They need generators. 0:07:49.440 --> 0:07:52.480 Now any there are six million people in Ukraine who 0:07:52.480 --> 0:07:56.520 have no electricity and it's winter. You said it, alright, 0:07:56.560 --> 0:08:00.480 the Justice Department's investigation into Donald Trump. Meanwhile, the handling 0:08:00.520 --> 0:08:02.880 of the White House documents that got a boost. The 0:08:02.920 --> 0:08:05.320 courts now say that the Trump team isn't entitled to 0:08:05.360 --> 0:08:07.920 a special master, but there's been a special master working 0:08:08.000 --> 0:08:10.360 on that. So now what happens, Well, I guess he's 0:08:10.360 --> 0:08:12.960 gonna put his pencils down that this is a pretty 0:08:13.040 --> 0:08:17.160 significant development here in the Justice Department's investigation. It will 0:08:17.200 --> 0:08:20.240 allow them to now start incorporating all the rest of 0:08:20.280 --> 0:08:22.440 those documents that may or may not have been personal 0:08:22.680 --> 0:08:26.520 versus top secret uh in their investigation, and it could 0:08:26.600 --> 0:08:29.600 clear the way here for an indictment basically at any 0:08:29.640 --> 0:08:32.880 time if the DOJ decides to do that. That's a 0:08:32.920 --> 0:08:35.400 big if at the moment. Do you indict a former president? 0:08:35.440 --> 0:08:38.800 Do you indict someone who's actively running for re election 0:08:39.480 --> 0:08:42.000 as president? These are the questions that Attorney General Merrick 0:08:42.000 --> 0:08:44.200 Garland needs to deal with here. But you know, it 0:08:44.320 --> 0:08:46.840 was never quite known how far this was gonna go. 0:08:46.920 --> 0:08:50.079 It was seen as a delay tactic. The the Appeals 0:08:50.120 --> 0:08:54.000 Court here was was cut and dry in in their 0:08:54.040 --> 0:08:58.280 writing all three judges uh talking about this just being 0:08:58.320 --> 0:09:03.760 an extraordinary circumstanced O. J was was correct in seeking 0:09:03.800 --> 0:09:07.040 a search warrant with probable cause and no need for 0:09:07.080 --> 0:09:09.120 a special master. By the way, this came from the 0:09:09.160 --> 0:09:13.319 special Council that was recently added to this case overseeing 0:09:13.320 --> 0:09:15.960 the Mara Lago documents case as well as the case 0:09:16.040 --> 0:09:19.800 to overturn the election and and what happened on January six. 0:09:19.880 --> 0:09:22.880 So it's a very complex situation right now, and you've 0:09:22.920 --> 0:09:26.960 got tandem investigations happening in Fulton County, Georgia, the southern 0:09:27.000 --> 0:09:29.320 district of New York. You could argue the walls are 0:09:29.320 --> 0:09:31.840 closing in a bit at mar Lago, and we only 0:09:31.880 --> 0:09:33.679 have about a minute here, Joe, but there's a big 0:09:33.760 --> 0:09:37.000 runoff for the Senate and Georgia early voting underway, and 0:09:37.160 --> 0:09:39.200 you are going to be there. Yeah. We're gonna head 0:09:39.200 --> 0:09:41.760 down of this weekend to be covering this for Bloomberg News. 0:09:41.760 --> 0:09:44.240 Will have reports for you Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday here on 0:09:44.240 --> 0:09:47.320 Bloomberg Radio. This is it. Barack Obama was in town 0:09:47.400 --> 0:09:51.200 last night stumping for Rafael Warnock. It is time once again, 0:09:51.400 --> 0:09:54.440 again and again to make final arguments here. This is 0:09:54.440 --> 0:09:57.000 like the fourth time Rafael Warnock has done this, remembering 0:09:57.040 --> 0:09:59.000 he wanted to run off just a couple of years ago. 0:09:59.320 --> 0:10:02.920 Herschel Walk or the Republican also doing his best to 0:10:03.040 --> 0:10:06.319 keep this in an incredibly close race. Amy the research 0:10:06.360 --> 0:10:08.400 we've seen that hasn't met a lot of polling have 0:10:08.559 --> 0:10:10.679 these two either within a point or within the margin 0:10:10.720 --> 0:10:13.559 of error. Despite all of the talk and the scandals 0:10:13.559 --> 0:10:16.240 and the debates, we're feeling much like we were going 0:10:16.280 --> 0:10:18.559 into this runoff as we did going into the mid terms. 0:10:18.640 --> 0:10:21.760 It's anyone's race in this final weekend of campaigning. In 0:10:21.800 --> 0:10:23.920 twenty seconds, what can you tell me about early voting? 0:10:24.679 --> 0:10:27.680 Early voting sets a record quite remarkable, and so you 0:10:27.720 --> 0:10:30.840 know this could skew in favor of Raphael Warnock if 0:10:31.280 --> 0:10:34.480 we follow historic trends that tend to favor Democrats and 0:10:34.559 --> 0:10:37.000 early voting. That's gonna put the burden on Republicans to 0:10:37.200 --> 0:10:39.840 turn out on Tuesday. And that's where we're gonna begin 0:10:39.880 --> 0:10:42.319 our coverage next week. All right, thank you, Joe, We'll 0:10:42.320 --> 0:10:46.400 be listening. 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He's a 0:11:25.559 --> 0:11:34.520 Bloomberg Business Flash. I'm Nathan Hagar. Stocks a reflecting a 0:11:34.559 --> 0:11:37.600 cautious mood around the world holding steady after recent sharp 0:11:37.679 --> 0:11:41.120 gains as Twitter traders await the latest monthly US jobs 0:11:41.120 --> 0:11:43.760 report for clues on the Fed's next policy steps. We 0:11:43.840 --> 0:11:46.160 check the markets every fifteen minutes during the trading day 0:11:46.200 --> 0:11:48.280 on Bloomberg, and futures are starting to move a bit 0:11:48.360 --> 0:11:51.040 lower now on Wall Street, with SMP futures down four 0:11:51.080 --> 0:11:54.280 points now, futures down forty eight and nastack futures down 0:11:54.280 --> 0:11:57.200 twenty four points ten. Your treasuries down one thirty second 0:11:57.440 --> 0:12:00.440 yield three point five zero percent, and I make screws 0:12:00.480 --> 0:12:02.680 down a tenth for center ten cents eighty one dollars 0:12:02.679 --> 0:12:06.520 fourteen cents a barrel. Comics gold is down to dollar fourteen. 0:12:06.559 --> 0:12:09.280 Even announced the euro one point zero five three six 0:12:09.280 --> 0:12:11.160 against the dollar. The n is at one thirty three 0:12:11.160 --> 0:12:14.480 point eight nine. This red headline just crossed the Bloomberg terminal. 0:12:14.520 --> 0:12:18.040 The Chinese Grand Prix of Formula one racing will not 0:12:18.200 --> 0:12:21.800 take place next year due to the quote ongoing difficulties 0:12:21.840 --> 0:12:25.319 stemming from the COVID nineteen situation. That from a tweet 0:12:25.520 --> 0:12:28.600 from Formula one. That's a Bloomberg business flash. And now 0:12:28.600 --> 0:12:30.800 here's Michael Barr with more on that's going on around 0:12:30.800 --> 0:12:33.760 the world. Michael Nathan, thank you very much. A federal 0:12:33.800 --> 0:12:37.480 appeal scored dismissed Donald Trump's lawsuit against the Justice Department 0:12:37.520 --> 0:12:40.600 over document sees that as a Mara logo resort. In August, 0:12:40.880 --> 0:12:44.240 the panel ruled a Florida judges order appointing a special 0:12:44.280 --> 0:12:48.080 master to review the materials was wrong. The Supreme Court 0:12:48.120 --> 0:12:51.440 denied President Biden's request to overturn a lower court's ruling 0:12:51.480 --> 0:12:54.800 blocking is student loan forgiveness program. They did agree to 0:12:54.840 --> 0:12:58.079 take up the legality of the plan. NFL, the Bills 0:12:58.120 --> 0:13:01.200 beat the Patriots and a HL Both the Devils and 0:13:01.280 --> 0:13:04.680 Capitals lost in overtime at the World Cup. Four games today, 0:13:04.720 --> 0:13:08.160 including Cameroon against Brazil. Global News twenty four hours a 0:13:08.240 --> 0:13:11.480 day on and on Bloomberg Quick Take, powered by more 0:13:11.520 --> 0:13:14.319 than twenty journalists and analysts and more than a hundred 0:13:14.320 --> 0:13:18.200 twenty countries. Michael Barr and this is Bloomberg. Am all right, 0:13:18.240 --> 0:13:20.760 thank you, Michael. It is six nineteen on Wall Street 0:13:20.880 --> 0:13:24.360 Live from the Bloomberg Interactive Broker Studios. This is Bloomberg Daybreak. 0:13:24.640 --> 0:13:27.040 We now want to bring you more of our exclusive 0:13:27.200 --> 0:13:30.120 with Credit Sweets chairman Axel Lehman, who sat down this 0:13:30.160 --> 0:13:33.719 morning with Bloomberg. Lehman says cash outflows have stopped, and 0:13:33.760 --> 0:13:37.640 he also discussed the bank's stock price and company operations. 0:13:37.840 --> 0:13:41.520 He spoke with Bloomberg's Francine Locoix in London. How often 0:13:41.559 --> 0:13:43.480 do you look at the share price because it's just 0:13:43.520 --> 0:13:45.480 been going down and down and down, and I imagine 0:13:45.559 --> 0:13:49.760 that's very difficult on a daily basis to explain to staff. Sure, 0:13:49.840 --> 0:13:51.880 of course you look at it from time to time, 0:13:52.200 --> 0:13:55.520 but you know, actually VR we are. Share price was 0:13:55.600 --> 0:13:58.760 coming down for quite a while, actually for many many years. 0:13:59.200 --> 0:14:01.320 We are very much under pressure. When you do a 0:14:01.360 --> 0:14:04.200 capital increase of four billion and your market cap is 0:14:04.240 --> 0:14:07.760 ten eleven billion, okay, you know that the share price 0:14:07.800 --> 0:14:10.600 will go to from four to three maybe even lower. 0:14:10.640 --> 0:14:13.200 And we are where we are. But there's a rights offer, 0:14:13.400 --> 0:14:16.920 and actually what happens if a share price goes below that? No, 0:14:17.160 --> 0:14:21.040 the rights offering is fully underwritten and we are well 0:14:21.120 --> 0:14:23.600 under way. You know, we have two tranches. The first 0:14:23.640 --> 0:14:26.280 tranches is the direct investors, so at one point eight 0:14:26.360 --> 0:14:29.840 billion that is already done and on our accounts. The 0:14:29.920 --> 0:14:32.760 second one is ongoing to point two billion and will 0:14:32.800 --> 0:14:36.240 conclude next thursday. Okay, what happens though? Have you had 0:14:36.280 --> 0:14:39.640 conversations with investors about at a higher price and where 0:14:39.640 --> 0:14:43.160 the how unpleasant are those conversations with them? Well, look, 0:14:43.280 --> 0:14:46.520 of course that's never easy. We have quite a lot 0:14:46.600 --> 0:14:50.680 of roughly some ten key investors. They are long time investors. 0:14:50.720 --> 0:14:52.960 They are not pleased. There are the share prices, of course, 0:14:53.400 --> 0:14:56.880 but you know They welcome our plan to transform the company. 0:14:57.040 --> 0:15:00.560 They have a high belief in the credib ability of 0:15:00.640 --> 0:15:04.720 the new of the management team. So they are standing by, 0:15:04.880 --> 0:15:07.320 but you know, they are somewhat impatient. They want to 0:15:07.320 --> 0:15:10.160 see the change. They want to see us executing and 0:15:10.240 --> 0:15:13.760 exactly that's what we're doing. So what kind of conversations 0:15:13.960 --> 0:15:16.640 are you having with them? Are you confident, first of all, 0:15:16.640 --> 0:15:20.120 at the share price after the rights offer will go up. Look, 0:15:20.240 --> 0:15:23.520 we are at a point two or so price the 0:15:23.640 --> 0:15:27.720 book all our peer companies in our sector or of 0:15:27.920 --> 0:15:33.440 rehovering around book slightly below, slightly off. There's no reason 0:15:33.720 --> 0:15:38.360 that we cannot catch up and go back to that level. Ably, 0:15:38.440 --> 0:15:41.040 I cannot predict when that is happening. But the upside 0:15:41.080 --> 0:15:45.000 potentious huge how much? But so, what I'm trying to understand, 0:15:45.080 --> 0:15:46.480 what a lot of people are trying to understand, is 0:15:46.520 --> 0:15:48.800 that every day there's bad news on criticizes and you 0:15:48.840 --> 0:15:52.120 see staff leaving, you see investors unpleased. Like how you 0:15:52.160 --> 0:15:57.280 recapture that narrative? Look, we had no beginning the beginning 0:15:57.280 --> 0:15:59.760 of the months you had that social media storm and 0:16:00.120 --> 0:16:04.480 the huge impact on interestingly not on the institutional side. 0:16:04.520 --> 0:16:07.120 You know, professional investors understood there was a lot of 0:16:07.200 --> 0:16:10.120 room spelling, but on the retail and wealth mentioned side, 0:16:10.120 --> 0:16:12.640 so we reached out. We reached out to eight thousand 0:16:12.720 --> 0:16:15.720 wells mentioned clients. They are covering roughly eight percent of 0:16:15.760 --> 0:16:18.160 the assets on the management. We reached out to more 0:16:18.200 --> 0:16:22.040 than twenty four thousand clients on our core market. So 0:16:22.160 --> 0:16:25.880 we intensified the dialogue just to make sure they understand 0:16:25.880 --> 0:16:28.360 where we are and just to make sure we maintain 0:16:28.440 --> 0:16:30.640 the contact. That what was the feedback like? So if 0:16:30.680 --> 0:16:32.840 I'm a new client, if I'm an old client, why 0:16:32.880 --> 0:16:35.080 would I put a hundred million with all the uncertainty 0:16:35.120 --> 0:16:39.000 surrounding credits? No, the feedback is quite astonishing. The clients 0:16:39.160 --> 0:16:42.480 still like us. They continue to do businesses us. So 0:16:42.640 --> 0:16:46.240 we had basically zero, very few clients really leaving. They 0:16:46.320 --> 0:16:48.720 might have you know, in light of those rooms. This 0:16:48.880 --> 0:16:52.880 throw no some some money from us, but I'm confident 0:16:52.960 --> 0:16:56.480 I have a lot of personal discussions with clients I 0:16:56.520 --> 0:17:00.480 know from regional management. Note that money of when we 0:17:00.560 --> 0:17:03.840 do well will come back at least to a significant part. 0:17:04.000 --> 0:17:06.360 When do you think the outfalls will stop? The outpost 0:17:06.480 --> 0:17:09.280 basically have stopped. What we saw is two or three 0:17:09.320 --> 0:17:13.040 weeks in October womb and since then flattening out. They 0:17:13.040 --> 0:17:16.080 have stopped its gradually coming back, in particular in Switzerland. 0:17:16.119 --> 0:17:18.280 I mean a number of analysts were also talking about, 0:17:18.600 --> 0:17:21.280 you know, what could happen to critics wiz, So are 0:17:21.320 --> 0:17:25.280 you evaluating other strategic options given the share price solution 0:17:25.359 --> 0:17:27.920 and and the market reaction to your announcer, Look, when 0:17:27.960 --> 0:17:31.399 you step back, we do a capital increase. Now in 0:17:31.600 --> 0:17:35.119 four working days we will have four billion b c 0:17:35.320 --> 0:17:39.000 t one ratio of fourteen percent or close to fourteen percent. 0:17:39.280 --> 0:17:42.679 That is top quartile in the in the industry. So 0:17:42.800 --> 0:17:47.680 it's a really strong balance sheet to carry through that transformation. 0:17:47.720 --> 0:17:50.359 We go. So we execute our plan. But why do 0:17:50.359 --> 0:17:52.640 you shareholders not if you wise, the share price keep 0:17:52.640 --> 0:17:55.520 on falling. No, I think the shareholders core shareholders, they 0:17:55.600 --> 0:17:58.520 believe us and they will exercise also their rights. The 0:17:58.520 --> 0:18:01.359 share prices falling off course, you know, the rights issues 0:18:01.400 --> 0:18:04.720 are traded. The market tries to drive down the price, 0:18:04.760 --> 0:18:07.680 which is logic, but it's fully under it and will 0:18:07.720 --> 0:18:10.520 be done. So the volatility on the share price will 0:18:10.520 --> 0:18:14.440 continue until we are through, you know, the capital increase. 0:18:14.840 --> 0:18:17.719 Then I think it will somewhat you know, stabilize and 0:18:17.800 --> 0:18:21.200 probably you know, we just move on from there. So German, 0:18:21.280 --> 0:18:23.200 no plan? By is there a plan if somebody came 0:18:23.200 --> 0:18:25.560 today and said, look, I offer you to merge Terans 0:18:25.640 --> 0:18:30.720 with Francs. Look, as chairman, you need always to consider 0:18:30.760 --> 0:18:33.320 all when somebody comes and will do that. Of course 0:18:33.320 --> 0:18:34.760 you need to take a look. But you know, I 0:18:34.800 --> 0:18:37.800 tell you when you are there. We are with you know, 0:18:38.119 --> 0:18:40.600 the historic ly low on the share price. It's a 0:18:40.680 --> 0:18:44.000 great management team with a plan that is convincing the 0:18:44.040 --> 0:18:46.680 market and the market you know, our shareholders believe it. 0:18:46.680 --> 0:18:50.000 It takes time to execute. You know, we can capture 0:18:50.200 --> 0:18:52.480 we can capture that value and we will do so. 0:18:53.160 --> 0:18:56.280 Credits wee chairman actually when speaking with Bloombergs of Francy 0:18:56.359 --> 0:18:59.720 and Lakwise shairs of Credits trading six point three percent higher. 0:18:59.800 --> 0:19:04.040 This Bloomberg Bloomberg Day Break brought to you by the 0:19:04.080 --> 0:19:07.000 Jewish Communal Fund. For fifty years, j c f's donor 0:19:07.119 --> 0:19:10.520 advised funds have been helping families create charitable legacies. 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On Bloomberg, 0:20:32.200 --> 0:20:35.320 SFP futures are a little changed down futures down eighteen points, 0:20:35.400 --> 0:20:39.000 DANSE futures down ten ten, Your treasuries down to thirty seconds. 0:20:39.000 --> 0:20:41.960 The three point five one field on the two year 0:20:42.040 --> 0:20:46.000 four point one eight percent, Amy Nathan, Let's begin with 0:20:46.040 --> 0:20:48.560 the November jobs report. We get the latest figures at 0:20:48.600 --> 0:20:51.680 eight thirty a m. Wall Street time. Traders are looking 0:20:51.680 --> 0:20:54.280 to the data for clues on future interest rate hikes. 0:20:54.640 --> 0:20:58.200 Jennifer Lee, senior economists with BEMO Capital Markets, thinks we'll 0:20:58.240 --> 0:21:01.119 see some losening in the late brew market. What we 0:21:01.160 --> 0:21:04.560 want to see is continued moderation in the numbers. And 0:21:04.920 --> 0:21:06.520 this is the era which you know, I'm trying to 0:21:06.560 --> 0:21:08.040 writ my head around, is that you know, good and 0:21:08.119 --> 0:21:10.880