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Speaker 3: Yeah, it is news, but I can't say it's breaking

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Speaker 3: news because we all kind of saw this one come

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Speaker 3: in for the last couple of weeks. The Dallas Mavericks

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Speaker 3: have officially parted ways within battle general manager Nico Harrison,

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Speaker 3: nine months after he upended the franchise by training away

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Speaker 3: all world point guard Luka Doncic for a package including

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Speaker 3: Anthony Davis. Anthony Davis famously has only played fourteen of

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Speaker 3: forty six possible games since the trade. The team has

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Speaker 3: started out there the second worst record in the Western Conference,

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Speaker 3: and ownership couldn't take it anymore. So Nico Harrison is

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Speaker 3: out in Dallas, all right.

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Speaker 4: And you know what, I get it.

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Speaker 1: When you're down losing three, three and eleven to start, right,

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Speaker 1: people want blood. Fans aren't happy. I get all that.

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Speaker 1: But I'm gonna tell you this. You guys can say

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Speaker 1: whatever you want, have your party, have your parade, because

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Speaker 1: Nico's gotten run out of Dallas.

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Speaker 2: Do all that.

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Speaker 4: Pump your chest, it's your belt time.

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Speaker 1: This was the same general manager that led his team

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Speaker 1: to the NBA Finals at twenty twenty four, right, not

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Speaker 1: nine years ago.

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Speaker 4: I get it.

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Speaker 1: He is being used as a scapegoat. He traded Luca

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Speaker 1: Dodgers not because he wanted to trade him.

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Speaker 4: It's because ownership didn't want to pay him. Did you

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Speaker 4: hear me? It wasn't because he wanted to try ate him.

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Speaker 4: It was because.

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Speaker 1: Ownership didn't want to pay him. Those are the facts.

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Speaker 1: Let me give you some other facts why this is

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Speaker 1: a scapegoat move. It ain't like he's got his team together,

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Speaker 1: the one that he put together.

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Speaker 4: If he had that team together and they were.

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Speaker 1: Three and eleven by all means, AD's heard, kyriees heard.

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Speaker 2: Cooper flag.

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Speaker 1: Unimpressive, so far out of position, not playing well, the

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Speaker 1: number one overall, Picky's be all end all and nell.

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Speaker 4: Ice cream that we can't resist.

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Speaker 1: No, none of it has worked out. But they aren't

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Speaker 1: bad because they're healthy and they're all together. And they

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Speaker 1: just haven't played well. None of that is the case.

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Speaker 1: And if you're gonna do that, Jason Kidd should be

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Speaker 1: on a rail on his way out as well. Oh

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Speaker 1: wait a minute, you can look at Jason Kidd and say, well,

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Speaker 1: of course, because uh, the team's not healthy, so Jason

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Speaker 1: Kidd doesn't have to go anywhere, and that how it works.

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Speaker 1: But the general manager who got you talent? You can

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Speaker 1: say all you want, all you NBA fans, ask your

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Speaker 1: team and your general managers, when was the last time

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Speaker 1: they went to the NBA finals. I'll wait because it's

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Speaker 1: been a long time. So I have an issue with

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Speaker 1: the idea. If this was a team with Kyrie with

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Speaker 1: ad with the overall number one pick and he was

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Speaker 1: lights out and all this other stuff was happening, they

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Speaker 1: wouldn't be three and eleven. And I get it. It's

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Speaker 1: it's real simple. Sports has a short menu. Fans look

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Speaker 1: at three and eleven not happy. You gotta do something.

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Speaker 1: You just gave Jason Kidd a new contract, didn't you,

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Speaker 1: So of course Nico is going to be the fall guy.

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Speaker 5: Man Ain't nobody trying to hear nothing you're talking about

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Speaker 5: right now? Because none of this is new Rob. We

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Speaker 5: knew going into the trade that Anthony Davis was a

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Speaker 5: liability because he was always injured, which works when you

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Speaker 5: have a team like Lebron and some other pieces. You say, okay,

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Speaker 5: but when he's gonna be your focal point tied in

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Speaker 5: with your other focal point, Kyrie Irving, who's always injured,

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Speaker 5: that was the problem. That's what I was yelling at

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Speaker 5: you during those weeks of the trade. Who traded him

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Speaker 5: ownership for him? Absolute ownership. Okay, okay, that's what that

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Speaker 5: so I just want to get that on the table

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Speaker 5: is absolutely the scapegoat. He didn't want to trade Luca

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Speaker 5: with it. It's not like he's a middling guy that

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Speaker 5: you didn't know was gonna all of a sudden become

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Speaker 5: a star. You didn't trade say it was Austin Ree

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Speaker 4: Oh we didn't see that coming.

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Speaker 5: You can't trade Luca Donets without the sign off of

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Speaker 5: least allegedly that he brought it up, he pitched it.

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Speaker 5: They didn't want to sign for all the max money

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Speaker 5: wasn't gonna get in shape. Well, that's also part of

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Speaker 5: the problem, Rob, is that they're three and eleven and

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Speaker 5: the Lakers are like the opposite of that. Lucas played great,

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Speaker 5: could say he's the leading candidate for MVP right now.

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Speaker 4: I was just like thirty something almost.

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Speaker 5: Forty a game, Okay, Yeah, And so that's also part

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Speaker 5: of the problems that the Lakers look great right now

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Speaker 5: without Lebron and Luca was expected to do it. Dallas absolutely,

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Speaker 5: if he was out of shape, heavy and playing terribly,

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Speaker 4: No, he's a good player. That's the idea that you

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Speaker 4: think that they're like, oh my god, Luca's great.

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Speaker 1: He was a five time first at all NBA, so

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Speaker 1: you left have to keep he is in shape, No,

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Speaker 1: but without shape.

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Speaker 5: And now he's in shape. So why wouldn't he get

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Speaker 5: in shape for you?

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Speaker 4: Because because he.

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Speaker 1: Never would, and because he wouldn't allowed him to know

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Speaker 5: A handful of months. All of a sudden, he's in

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Speaker 5: the basis he wanted the money. He's in the best

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Speaker 4: Now, and they got a needle now that you could look.

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Speaker 1: I'm just assuming that you so now work out pro

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Speaker 1: athlete can't get in shape.

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Speaker 5: Now the pro athlete gotta be jabbing himself. Stop it,

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Speaker 5: lou Good Dodges, would you be shocked if he's on that?

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Speaker 2: Yes?

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Speaker 5: Him specifically is me you rob geedn somebody know one.

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Speaker 1: Of the greatest tennis players of all time does advertise m.

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Speaker 4: She ain't playing tennis right now.

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Speaker 1: But when everybody looked at him and showed all those

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Speaker 5: You're just trying to say, literally, one of the greatest

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Speaker 1: He wished he looked like at twenty five we looked

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Speaker 5: I agree that Nico is escapego because again, even if

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Speaker 5: he Pitcher suggested that they have to sign off on trading,

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Speaker 5: a generational French.

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Speaker 4: Said, don't know, you're not trading. So I agree with that.

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Speaker 4: I didn't want to. Niko is gonna land some cushy job.

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Speaker 5: This is all he's gonna get something the NBA, the

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Speaker 5: Dallas look, just go away so we can make this thing.

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Speaker 5: Thinking you're gonna be part of the Olympic Basketball Committee

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Speaker 5: Sarasota wherever they are, and you'll come get some jobs here.

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Speaker 4: I don't know where they're at.

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Speaker 5: Where is the headquarter, Sokus saying somewhere whoever?

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Speaker 1: The headquarter of the NBA is in Manhattan, but the

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Speaker 1: TV thing is ink yeah secaka NBA TV Entertainment.

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Speaker 4: He's gonna be up in Seakaukia somewhere. The office is

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Speaker 5: Yeah that so, But back to this, to me was

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Speaker 5: so inevitable and not expect him necessary to be three

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Speaker 5: to eleven. But the point is my whole point, honestly,

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Speaker 5: Rob was Kyrie is in his mid thirties and often injury,

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Speaker 5: a spectacular player, but always injured.

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Speaker 1: You traded him a championship with Anthony Davis. Yeah, okay,

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Speaker 1: five six years ago. But I'm just asking he was

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Speaker 1: he was not injured during that He played out without.

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Speaker 5: I agree, but Rob, he's always injured now, especially he's

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Speaker 5: even six years older than Lucas.

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Speaker 4: So that was my point.

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Speaker 5: If they traded Luca for SGA, I would have said,

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Speaker 5: all right, I didn't see that coming, but I can

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Speaker 5: get it.

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Speaker 4: And Edwards, oh, I didn't see Okay, Yiannis jo Kic.

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Speaker 5: It's that they traded him for six years older than

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Speaker 4: None of it made sense from the jump.

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Speaker 5: That was always my issue was that if you felt

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Speaker 5: You didn't get even also reads where he say, at

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Speaker 5: least we got ad and Austin Reeds, we got something going.

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Speaker 4: They didn't get anything.

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Speaker 5: And then you brought Jay Kidd and the idea that

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Speaker 5: Jason Kidd would say, well, I think Cooper Flag should

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Speaker 5: be a point guard.

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Speaker 4: Jason Kidd, are you kidding me? You're one of the.

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Speaker 5: Greatest point guards ever. You know what the point guard

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Speaker 5: looks like. Cooper Flag is not going to be a

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Speaker 5: point guard. Get a rebound and go every now and again, sure,

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Speaker 5: knew I was never in on this. Look at that

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Speaker 1: It's easy to say that when beforehand you still arranged me.

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Speaker 1: All I'm saying is this was never put together or

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Speaker 4: It's like the Brooklyn thing. You could say, whatever, it

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Speaker 4: didn't work.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, of course, because they played a total of sixteen

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Speaker 1: games together. I'll give you that one. That idea of

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Speaker 1: it is it like like it was the worst thing

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Speaker 1: Kd's foot on the line almost got them to the

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Speaker 1: Eastern Conference Final, Like he made the shot and then

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Speaker 1: that's how close it was. Without Kyrie and with an

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Speaker 1: I didn't see like this, he's just he's escapegoat. And

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Speaker 1: you could go all you want, Cooper flag hasn't been

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Speaker 1: his advertised uh and and is out of playing out

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Speaker 1: of position, and and Clay is done. We knew that

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Speaker 1: when he signed there. And then you got the other

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Speaker 1: the other two guys who were supposed to be a

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Speaker 1: part of this.

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Speaker 4: Who were hurt?

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Speaker 1: So when you start out three and eleven, you know

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Speaker 1: they love they're always hurt. They didn't go, but they

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Speaker 1: didn't go to the finals. That was That wasn't ten

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Speaker 1: years ago. That's that's what you're right. It was twenty twenty,

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty three when they went to the finals. Oh,

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Speaker 1: I'm talking about the Mavericks.

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Speaker 5: You got rid of the guy that dragged it to

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Speaker 5: the Western Counch finals in the map in the finals.

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Speaker 1: Where did they Where did the Lakers go when they

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Speaker 4: Last year? Where'd they go? He just got there? I

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Speaker 4: don't know what is that to do with it? He

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Speaker 4: went to the final year before. Yet him get a

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Speaker 4: whole season? Yo, let him get a whole season.

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Speaker 1: I knew I figured you would forget about that last year,

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Speaker 5: Rob g we got the new college football playoff rankings.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, for good reason, Because I don't know if you

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Speaker 5: And Rob both of y'all, how much longer before we

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Speaker 4: It has nothing to do with anything other than money.

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Speaker 1: So what lose four games, five games, they still gonna

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Speaker 1: They don't care. And college football fans, this is there

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Speaker 4: Go West Virginia, don't West Virginia, Alabama. No, drive and

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Speaker 1: No. This is all you have. So you're gonna like it,

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Speaker 1: whether you will like it or not. What what What

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Speaker 1: not watch? What are you gonna do? Nothing? So that's

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Speaker 1: why they treat you this way. You're gonna make it

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Speaker 4: Why do you lose a game or two?

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Speaker 1: It was like, okay, college basketball season, I mean, college

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Speaker 5: How bad the Lion's gonna be? Because because that's how

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Speaker 1: Exactly and that and that's what it used to be,

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Speaker 1: and that's not what they want to like. So what

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Speaker 1: it's don what they got three losses, They're still better

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Speaker 1: Like that's what they don't care. Get the big boys

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Speaker 5: And you're gonna have to with the advent of thel

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Speaker 4: I mean, you can change your destiny very quickly.

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Speaker 5: You get the right transfer guys, and you get the

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Speaker 5: change the trajectory of your of your you know, program quickly.

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Speaker 5: I mean Indiana, I've started last year and then boom,

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Speaker 3: Guys, if we agree at the SEC and the Big ten,

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Speaker 3: saying we don't need the NC double A. We're gonna

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Speaker 3: have our own playoffs, nothing, nothing, and where's gonna go

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Speaker 4: You can do it.

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Speaker 3: Just for additional context for why I'm asking this question.

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Speaker 4: On ESPN.

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Speaker 3: Guys, it is a thirty right now, and the rank

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Speaker 4: Rob g I'm gonna be honest.

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Speaker 1: When we just said we're gonna do this, I was

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Speaker 5: No, I mean not to mention when you had these

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Speaker 5: When they start poaching, we need to get to they

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Speaker 5: I mean Big twelve, for that's just how you synonymous

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Speaker 4: Over here to Big ten like that.

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Speaker 5: Even geographically it doesn't even make sense, like you're going

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Speaker 5: It's a rap and everybody else is gonna be trying

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Speaker 3: Big Story of the Day, The Dallas Mavericks have fired

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Speaker 3: how much blame does he deserve? Was he escapegoaded? Now

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Speaker 3: If you look at their cap sheet, they got two

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Speaker 5: The plan is everybody can go. I would like to

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Speaker 5: And I would like to keep Lively right, to have

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Speaker 4: Rest of that, everybody can go.

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Speaker 4: I just don't know their availability.

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Speaker 5: Kyrie Iran talent wise. We know if he just was

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Speaker 5: gonna play eighty eighty games, seventy five games, you knew

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Speaker 5: what he was gonna get great. Same thing with Anthony

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Speaker 5: Davis two way player. I know exactly what I'm getting

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Speaker 5: them both ends of the floor when he's healthy, when

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Speaker 5: he's rolling. But I don't have a creator right now.

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Speaker 5: I don't have guys who can get the ball. I

443
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Speaker 5: don't have guys who can make it easier for other people.

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Speaker 5: D'Angel l Russell ain't that and it never has been that.

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Speaker 5: That's just not his skill set. His skill set is

446
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Speaker 5: coming really more of a come off the bench and

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Speaker 5: get you a bucket kind of guy. So to me,

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Speaker 5: I'm willing to start over, new general manager coming in.

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Speaker 5: You got your new rookie and Cooper Flag who needs

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Speaker 5: to get things going and let him just have this

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Speaker 5: year to figure it out. Figure it out, get shot up,

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Speaker 5: play defense, figure out the pacing of the NBA, figure

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Speaker 5: out the competitiveness of the NBA, the physicality of the NBA.

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Speaker 5: Figure it all out. We're gonna keep a couple of

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Speaker 5: pieces around and then that moving. I'm filing calls how

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Speaker 5: much you want? Who wants what for? Anthony Davis? Kyrie

457
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Speaker 5: will be back end of the year, early next year.

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Speaker 5: Who wants what for? Kyrie?

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Speaker 4: Who wants the person?

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Speaker 5: Because Klay Thompson's watched eighty is often injured, Kyrie is

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Speaker 5: often injured, and Cooper Flag is finding his way.

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Speaker 4: So to me, I'm open for business.

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Speaker 5: To me, you just have to be I'm hear in

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Speaker 5: a hard reset building around Cooper, building around you know

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Speaker 5: whoever the new general manager is going to be and

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Speaker 5: Fielding finding our way, our thing, our identity, because you

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Speaker 5: can't you can't do anything with the rest of these guys.

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Speaker 5: To me that I don't like they're constructed and to

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Speaker 5: what veil, to what avail? The Western Conference is loaded?

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Speaker 5: What be the ninth seed every year for the next

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Speaker 5: couple of years.

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Speaker 4: Totally disagree.

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Speaker 1: I think that you could have because you have the

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Speaker 1: young star, you got the first overall pick who's supposed

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Speaker 1: to be a star. You could try to go along

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Speaker 1: with what you have, hope these guys can get healthy,

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Speaker 1: make a run. He becomes the bridge to take you

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Speaker 1: into that next because you already got your guy. You

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Speaker 1: don't need to tank to get your guy. You have

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Speaker 1: your guy already. If you had old guys without Cooper Flag,

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Speaker 1: then I would agree with you. You already have them.

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Speaker 1: You're not gonna get better than what you just got.

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Speaker 1: So you have your guy. So the idea is to

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Speaker 1: be able to let these guys get healthy. Let's see

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Speaker 1: what we can do right, Let's see if we can

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Speaker 1: make a run with this, and if not, then as

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Speaker 1: you get rid of pieces and move forward, then you

488
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Speaker 1: could start to compliment him. And then you have a

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Speaker 1: bridge between us being viable with a young superstar and

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Speaker 1: the making star whatever you want to call him. Plus,

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Speaker 1: you have a guy who's won a couple guys who

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Speaker 1: have won NBA championship, so write maybe some of that

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Speaker 1: rubs off on him on how to win. He's around

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Speaker 1: those kind of guys, putting him around a bunch of

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Speaker 1: young guys trying to all grow together. It could work

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Speaker 1: once in a while, but it didn't work often. So

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying, when you have a guy already and

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Speaker 1: you luck out and have that, and yet I just

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Speaker 1: think about it like Tim Duncan.

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Speaker 4: When Tim Duncan was able to go there with David Robinson, right,

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Speaker 4: so that was unfortunate, Like they weren't as bad as

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Speaker 4: getting that number one.

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Speaker 1: No, but he was heard and they did. But I'm

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Speaker 1: just saying, you wind up being able to have both.

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Speaker 4: You know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: Tim Duncan was obviously your future, but you had David

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Speaker 1: Robinson and you didn't go, Okay, we got Tim Duncan.

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Speaker 1: Now let's get run.

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Speaker 5: I won up your example with your own example when

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Speaker 5: you were them, and then you start to get Tony

511
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Speaker 5: Parker becomes a guy, and then you go get a Kawhi.

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Speaker 4: The difference is to me a couple of things.

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Speaker 5: One, you just can't have guys they're talking about that

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Speaker 5: are always injured, like Anthony Davis, and it's only gonna

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Speaker 5: get worse.

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Speaker 4: He's getting older.

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Speaker 5: It's not like you got him at twenty three and

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Speaker 5: you say, well, we don't know, no, we know, and

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Speaker 5: it's only going to get worse, Kyrie Irvan, It's only

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Speaker 5: going to get worse. And so the reason why when

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Speaker 5: you start to look at the teams that have had

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Speaker 5: success over the last ten years or so, it's guys

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Speaker 5: who grew together. It's drafting Steph drafting, Clay drafting Draymond drafting,

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Speaker 5: Harrison Barnes, and then you running around obviously Harrison bars believe.

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Speaker 1: You the Toronto Winnings Championship, they had a core, got

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Speaker 1: group of guys with that, but they couldn't win with

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Speaker 1: that Cord.

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Speaker 5: That Lebron wasn't there and they might have won, but

529
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Speaker 5: that but that Cord. Lebronto was hating.

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Speaker 1: That that court didn't win, all right, and so did

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Speaker 1: what you called you talk about. Okay, Philadelphia did that.

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Speaker 1: They had all these high draft picks, they put them

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Speaker 1: all together. Trust the process that they went. They couldn't

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Speaker 1: even get to the conference. They couldn't even get there.

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Speaker 5: And then I go back to the Celtics again, you

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Speaker 5: had your corp. They had a run, they got to

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Speaker 5: a couple of finals, they won one, and and you

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Speaker 5: just to me, I'm looking at now, let's not even

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Speaker 5: talk about Oklahoma City Thunder. As far as it's got

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Speaker 5: some core, you got a good you got a great

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Speaker 5: young trade. I can't believe the Clippers gave up SGA.

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Speaker 5: And so my point is, just find your things, make

543
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Speaker 5: a couple of trades, get some young pieces, and build

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Speaker 5: so you can build towards your future and then utilize,

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Speaker 5: you know, the next ten twelve years that you got

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Speaker 5: Cooper Flag whatever it will be, and maximum, pair him

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Speaker 5: up with some guys that he can grow with, bill

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Speaker 5: with and fight with, go through the get their lumps

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Speaker 5: and bruises, as the Splash Brothers and Draymond did, and

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Speaker 5: the Celtics did. You gotta go through some things in

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Speaker 5: the NBA. We all know that. So get some Cooper Flag.

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Speaker 5: Pair them up with a couple of young, good guys.

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Speaker 5: One can be a little older, the twenty five to

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Speaker 5: twenty sixers. You definitely need somebody in their prime. And

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Speaker 5: then let's go through some things. Let's go lose a

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Speaker 5: couple of times in the playoffs, in the Western Counas

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Speaker 5: finals and get to a final.

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Speaker 4: To me, that's what I'm doing.

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Speaker 5: I'm not hoping that guys who are always injured don't

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Speaker 5: get injured. That's what I'm not in the business.

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Speaker 4: Of doing