WEBVTT - Conor McGregor BACK! Rousey vs Carano REACTIONS with Jon Anik & Kenny Florian + Ray Longo 0:00:00.400 --> 0:00:05.000 The John Nnick and Kenny Florian podcast John Annik and 0:00:05.120 --> 0:00:06.000 Kenny Florian. 0:00:06.200 --> 0:00:08.840 I fucking love him. I can't get enough of him. 0:00:09.000 --> 0:00:11.959 Let's hear that both, Big job the Frank. 0:00:21.560 --> 0:00:24.280 There are a couple of absolutely self involved. 0:00:24.720 --> 0:00:31.960 You're your hosts John Nnick and Kenny Florian's. 0:00:35.200 --> 0:00:38.479 Big Monday on the Anak and Florian podcast Big Monday. 0:00:39.120 --> 0:00:41.360 Try to give you a little warning in case you're listening, 0:00:41.400 --> 0:00:44.600 you can turn it down for a second. Big Monday, 0:00:45.200 --> 0:00:50.400 May eighteenth, twenty twenty six, episode five hundred and ninety 0:00:50.400 --> 0:00:52.360 six or so of the anakon Florian podcast Power by 0:00:52.360 --> 0:00:54.560 All the Smoke Fight Big episode because it's the final 0:00:54.600 --> 0:00:57.240 episode in Ken Flow's forties. 0:00:57.960 --> 0:01:02.920 Oh gosh, Yeah, you had to remind me about that, right, No, 0:01:03.160 --> 0:01:08.120 what is going on, dude, I'm gonna be fifty you you. 0:01:08.000 --> 0:01:11.280 Sort of use negative phraseology and had a negative emotion 0:01:11.480 --> 0:01:13.280 when I said it. 0:01:13.360 --> 0:01:15.920 So, since I'm not leading the dance. 0:01:16.000 --> 0:01:19.000 My fortieth birthday was the worst birthday of my life. 0:01:20.920 --> 0:01:23.080 Oh man, I gotta say so. 0:01:23.200 --> 0:01:25.800 I feel better though, at least today than I have 0:01:25.920 --> 0:01:28.520 the last couple of years. Like my back was horrible 0:01:28.600 --> 0:01:31.680 for probably the last three to four years. Maybe even longer. 0:01:31.800 --> 0:01:32.000 Yeah. 0:01:32.040 --> 0:01:35.360 So, so I'm feeling better as I head into. 0:01:35.160 --> 0:01:36.000 The fifties anyway. 0:01:36.040 --> 0:01:40.000 Physically, Yeah, your looks get complimented a lot of the 0:01:40.040 --> 0:01:41.319 anacan Florian podcast. 0:01:41.360 --> 0:01:42.800 You know Jason Anna coming up later. 0:01:42.840 --> 0:01:45.600 I'm sure he'll compliment your hair or something, right, probably 0:01:45.640 --> 0:01:50.320 a lot of hair compliments into it Dome in Inglewood, California, incidentally, 0:01:51.880 --> 0:01:54.600 But no, so when we show a UFC tail of 0:01:54.640 --> 0:01:58.280 the tape as a nod to Oklahoma State football coach 0:01:58.400 --> 0:02:02.400 former Mike Gunn, you if there's a fighter who's forty, 0:02:02.440 --> 0:02:05.800 I'll say he's a man, he's forty. I didn't necessarily 0:02:05.840 --> 0:02:08.120 feel like a man when I turned forty. I felt 0:02:08.120 --> 0:02:11.799 like an old man, not in spirit or physically, just 0:02:11.919 --> 0:02:12.480 on paper. 0:02:12.600 --> 0:02:13.840 And age is just number. 0:02:13.840 --> 0:02:16.400 But it's still a number, and you're still chasing it eventually, 0:02:16.440 --> 0:02:18.960 I mean, to my knowledge, like nobody's lived at two 0:02:19.080 --> 0:02:24.320 hundred yet, right. Yeah, so Ken Flow May twenty six 0:02:25.520 --> 0:02:30.320 will turn fucking fifty burger with bacon, maybe hold the 0:02:30.400 --> 0:02:34.920 cheese because fifty, bro, I mean, come on, man, like 0:02:35.320 --> 0:02:37.440 you should have negative emotions. 0:02:37.960 --> 0:02:43.040 You should, you said, of a bitch. No, I mean, listen, 0:02:43.080 --> 0:02:46.160 it's crazy. I don't I can be like this. 0:02:46.200 --> 0:02:50.760 It's amazing, amazing what is clark Ham planned just came 0:02:50.800 --> 0:02:52.239 off a big gig for Netflix. 0:02:52.320 --> 0:02:53.000 Life is good. 0:02:53.080 --> 0:02:57.240 But I mean, you know, rather there's benefits what I 0:02:57.280 --> 0:02:57.960 get early bird? 0:02:57.960 --> 0:02:59.280 Do I get early bird specials? 0:02:59.280 --> 0:02:59.440 Now? 0:02:59.440 --> 0:03:01.200 At fifty? That is that a thing? 0:03:01.560 --> 0:03:01.679 You know? 0:03:01.720 --> 0:03:05.320 Where I get discount at diners and stuff like that? 0:03:05.480 --> 0:03:07.960 Or No, I don't think you're fifty five. Your wife 0:03:08.120 --> 0:03:09.359 is probably not yet forty? 0:03:09.440 --> 0:03:09.600 Is that? 0:03:10.680 --> 0:03:13.320 No, she is not. She's not. She's not close, right, 0:03:13.360 --> 0:03:14.200 So yeah, so. 0:03:15.960 --> 0:03:17.840 All right, we got a lot coming up today as 0:03:17.880 --> 0:03:21.160 we celebrate Kenny's fiftieth birthday. We're actually off on Monday 0:03:21.160 --> 0:03:25.200 for Memorial Day week. We're off for the holiday, of course, 0:03:25.440 --> 0:03:29.520 to acknowledge and we're also off to acknowledge Kenilo's fiftieth birthday. 0:03:29.520 --> 0:03:32.160 So coming up today, we have Ray Longo at the 0:03:32.160 --> 0:03:35.720 bottom of the hour, very interesting things happening with his 0:03:35.760 --> 0:03:39.920 fighter Pumi Nakuda, and you can certainly talk about that, 0:03:39.960 --> 0:03:42.200 but we'll table that at least for a little bit here. 0:03:43.240 --> 0:03:43.600 Randall. 0:03:43.840 --> 0:03:44.000 R J. 0:03:44.160 --> 0:03:47.280 Clifford coming up here at the top of next hour 0:03:47.320 --> 0:03:49.840 as well, and a lot of different big fight odds 0:03:49.880 --> 0:03:53.560 UFC three twenty nine stuff. Connor McGregor is back. No 0:03:53.680 --> 0:03:59.000 more time to waste. Let's get headlines, headlines. 0:03:59.200 --> 0:04:00.920 It's time heads. 0:04:00.680 --> 0:04:03.680 I have some very urgent and important breaking. 0:04:03.280 --> 0:04:07.400 New headlines on the Kenny sans concast. 0:04:10.880 --> 0:04:16.880 All right, So three possible lead stories today. Ronda Rousey, 0:04:17.440 --> 0:04:23.000 Connor McGregor coming back, or a capsule lock submission at 0:04:23.279 --> 0:04:27.400 UFC Fight Night so ken Flow was on the scene. 0:04:27.760 --> 0:04:33.880 Ronda Rousey in seventeen seconds gets past Gena Carrano. Any 0:04:33.960 --> 0:04:36.360 number of different angles at which we can attack this. 0:04:36.440 --> 0:04:39.320 But I guess I'd just like to start by congratulating 0:04:39.360 --> 0:04:42.640 you and asking, as a curious fan what it was 0:04:42.800 --> 0:04:47.120 like being part of a major Netflix live event for 0:04:47.120 --> 0:04:47.720 for MVP. 0:04:48.320 --> 0:04:49.800 Well, thank you, man, I appreciate that. 0:04:49.839 --> 0:04:52.280 You know, it was great to be back, you know, 0:04:52.400 --> 0:04:55.200 it was Uh, it was an interesting week, you know, 0:04:55.279 --> 0:04:58.679 always always interesting working with with new production, different production 0:04:58.839 --> 0:05:04.120 and new people. So that was fun. And yeah, I 0:05:04.120 --> 0:05:06.800 mean there was just a lot of energy around the 0:05:06.800 --> 0:05:08.960 city of La and at the card it was a 0:05:09.000 --> 0:05:11.680 reunion of sorts, you know, meeting a bunch of people 0:05:12.440 --> 0:05:15.080 and seeing people who haven't seen in a very long time. 0:05:15.160 --> 0:05:18.080 And so it was great to be back on the 0:05:18.120 --> 0:05:19.080 sticks man for sure. 0:05:19.600 --> 0:05:22.960 Well, you did a great job, and the lettuce was flowing, 0:05:23.160 --> 0:05:26.000 and you were alongside the great Marl Ronello, and we 0:05:26.040 --> 0:05:28.360 were very excited for you, and it was amazing to 0:05:28.440 --> 0:05:30.640 watch you be back in the saddle, And it was 0:05:30.680 --> 0:05:33.160 amazing to watch Ronda Rousey do that. I think to 0:05:33.200 --> 0:05:35.719 any human being who prepared to beat her, she still 0:05:35.800 --> 0:05:39.680 proves that she can get somebody where she wants them 0:05:39.720 --> 0:05:42.919 in a very quick amount of time and put you 0:05:43.080 --> 0:05:46.280 in a position where you fear for your limbs shortly thereafter. Now, 0:05:46.360 --> 0:05:49.680 let me just say when there were rumblings of a 0:05:49.800 --> 0:05:54.120 Ronda Rousi return, I thought it would be far more 0:05:54.160 --> 0:05:57.560 of a bout of consequence in terms of maybe who 0:05:57.640 --> 0:05:59.960 she would be fighting. Perhaps it would be in the US, 0:06:00.520 --> 0:06:03.040 and even if not Kayla Harrison, maybe it would be 0:06:03.520 --> 0:06:08.720 a real MMA test against a fighter who was actively 0:06:08.760 --> 0:06:11.039 competing in MMA, or it was gonna be in a 0:06:11.080 --> 0:06:14.640 boxing realm. So this fight on paper was not my expectation. 0:06:15.240 --> 0:06:17.400 I didn't know what to expect out of Gina Carano, 0:06:17.520 --> 0:06:19.719 you know, And I don't know how competitive Gina Krona 0:06:19.800 --> 0:06:23.760 would be against your average MMA striker. Right now, after 0:06:23.800 --> 0:06:27.480 that type of layoff, you know, but given this canvas, 0:06:27.560 --> 0:06:29.800 Ronda Rousey couldn't have done a whole lot more to 0:06:29.800 --> 0:06:32.240 sort of maximize the showcase. 0:06:33.200 --> 0:06:33.479 Yeah. 0:06:33.520 --> 0:06:37.440 I mean, listen, seventeen years. For any athlete to come 0:06:37.480 --> 0:06:40.800 back after that long layoff, especially when she wasn't training 0:06:40.800 --> 0:06:42.839 for seventeen years, right, she was taking a lot of 0:06:42.839 --> 0:06:45.320 time off between that is. 0:06:45.279 --> 0:06:47.599 A lot to ask of anybody. 0:06:48.279 --> 0:06:52.440 And you know, Ronda did not let Gina feel comfortable 0:06:52.920 --> 0:06:54.440 for very long in that fight. 0:06:54.560 --> 0:06:57.520 Obviously, Ronda's gonna do what Ronda's gonna do. 0:06:57.640 --> 0:06:59.880 I mean, if she sees the ability to finish it 0:07:00.040 --> 0:07:02.479 in a second, she's gonna finish it in a second. So, 0:07:03.480 --> 0:07:06.000 you know, I think for both of those ladies at 0:07:06.000 --> 0:07:08.000 the end, there was a little bit of closure. 0:07:08.080 --> 0:07:08.719 Not so much for. 0:07:09.040 --> 0:07:10.640 Gina as much as she would like. I think she 0:07:10.640 --> 0:07:11.800 would have at least liked to. 0:07:11.920 --> 0:07:14.200 Land some kind of a punch or something. 0:07:15.040 --> 0:07:17.280 But you know, they didn't have the exits that they 0:07:17.320 --> 0:07:19.920 wanted away from the sport, and I think they wanted 0:07:19.920 --> 0:07:23.000 a little bit of closure and and you know, not 0:07:23.040 --> 0:07:25.040 only making a lot of money, but having the ability 0:07:25.080 --> 0:07:27.280 to perform and do what they do best. And you know, 0:07:27.320 --> 0:07:30.000 for Ronda. It went extremely well. For Gina not so much, 0:07:30.040 --> 0:07:33.720 which was unfortunate for her. She's such a clossy woman 0:07:33.920 --> 0:07:36.560 and has been through a lot, and to see her come. 0:07:36.400 --> 0:07:38.040 Back and again in two years. 0:07:38.120 --> 0:07:40.200 She lost one hundred pounds in preparation for this, And 0:07:40.200 --> 0:07:42.400 I see people saying, well it was a fix. Well, 0:07:42.640 --> 0:07:46.200 you know, Captain Gano was pretty damn good and Gina 0:07:46.280 --> 0:07:48.080 tapped her out in even quicker time. 0:07:48.480 --> 0:07:50.000 That's just what happens, Ronda. 0:07:50.040 --> 0:07:53.360 Sorry, that's just what happens when you face a highly 0:07:53.480 --> 0:07:55.560 skillful specialist like Ronda Rousey. 0:07:55.680 --> 0:07:58.040 Like have you followed her career? She beats a lot 0:07:58.080 --> 0:07:59.920 of people in under one round. 0:08:00.400 --> 0:08:02.760 Is it wrong for me in twenty twenty six to 0:08:02.880 --> 0:08:05.680 be wildly curious as to how ron A Rousing might 0:08:06.120 --> 0:08:10.760 do against certain fighters in the UFC Banhamweight Top fifteen. 0:08:11.240 --> 0:08:13.960 I would submit to you that she would still be competitive, 0:08:14.000 --> 0:08:17.560 and there is a groundswell of people who would suggest 0:08:17.600 --> 0:08:19.760 to you maybe not. Now, I know this doesn't give 0:08:19.840 --> 0:08:22.440 us any film at all, and I even wonder if 0:08:22.440 --> 0:08:25.520 this scratches the competitive itch for Ronda. Certainly there's financial 0:08:25.560 --> 0:08:28.480 gain and certainly the training camp brought out the best 0:08:28.480 --> 0:08:31.080 in her seemingly but I would think Ronda, as much 0:08:31.080 --> 0:08:33.120 as she wants to pro create more, would love to 0:08:33.200 --> 0:08:35.959 really test herself given how good she looked in these 0:08:35.960 --> 0:08:37.160 short seventeen seconds. 0:08:37.480 --> 0:08:39.720 I know, I know. I think this was kind of 0:08:39.720 --> 0:08:42.160 her dream fight. She wanted to face one of the 0:08:42.400 --> 0:08:44.840 icons in the sport and Gina Carano, a woman that 0:08:44.880 --> 0:08:47.679 she looked up to, and I agree with you, I 0:08:47.720 --> 0:08:52.760 think she would be competitive in the division. I think 0:08:52.840 --> 0:08:55.440 she just wanted to scratch that itch and kind of 0:08:55.480 --> 0:08:57.600 go back to being a mom and that's it. 0:08:57.640 --> 0:08:59.120 I think she wanted a little bit of closure. 0:08:59.160 --> 0:09:02.280 But yeah, you're right, even maybe not even against the elite, 0:09:02.320 --> 0:09:04.400 but maybe getting a rematch against Holly. 0:09:04.160 --> 0:09:05.520 Holme is something that I thought. 0:09:05.720 --> 0:09:08.880 But here's you know, And yeah, I'm not trying to 0:09:08.880 --> 0:09:10.559 put you on the spot, right, I know you're one 0:09:10.600 --> 0:09:13.960 of the commentators, right, Yes, I'm a may fan, you know. 0:09:14.040 --> 0:09:16.560 And this podcast could cease to exist in the future, 0:09:16.559 --> 0:09:19.000 and maybe I wouldn't have a platform to say things 0:09:19.080 --> 0:09:22.880 like this, right, what Ronda Rowsei against Holly home is 0:09:22.880 --> 0:09:26.200 in any sort of championship fight right now? 0:09:26.280 --> 0:09:26.439 Right? 0:09:26.480 --> 0:09:28.440 Some people maybe want to ron A Rowsy against Chris 0:09:28.480 --> 0:09:33.400 cyboard right now. I'm asking the question because the mixed 0:09:33.480 --> 0:09:36.160 martial arts for me, right, there's a lot of people 0:09:36.200 --> 0:09:40.720 who would say Norma Dumont just smokes Ronda Rousei in 0:09:40.760 --> 0:09:43.840 twenty twenty six, and I'm asking you, like, can't Ronda 0:09:43.960 --> 0:09:48.760 Rousey get takedowns against a high level modern day fighter 0:09:48.840 --> 0:09:51.720 and get to a place where she can grab an 0:09:51.840 --> 0:09:55.360 arm or a neck or I mean, like crazy, like 0:09:55.400 --> 0:09:57.719 because a lot of people think we're able to beat 0:09:57.760 --> 0:09:58.840 Ronda Rowsi right now. 0:09:59.040 --> 0:10:01.920 No, I agree, Listen. I think that when you're that. 0:10:01.920 --> 0:10:04.520 Elite in judo and you have that kind of of 0:10:04.559 --> 0:10:07.480 a submission game, and to me, it seemed like she 0:10:07.559 --> 0:10:09.480 was really working on other aspects of her game as 0:10:09.480 --> 0:10:09.800 well in. 0:10:09.760 --> 0:10:11.000 Preparation for this fight. 0:10:11.440 --> 0:10:13.480 Yeah, I think she still would be competitive, you know, 0:10:13.840 --> 0:10:16.000 would she be a champion in that weight class? 0:10:16.040 --> 0:10:17.719 I don't. I think would be really difficult. Right. 0:10:17.760 --> 0:10:20.400 The game has evolved a tremendous amount, but at the 0:10:20.400 --> 0:10:22.640 same time, you're talking about a world class athlete, but 0:10:22.760 --> 0:10:26.000 also you know you're going against time as well. She 0:10:26.160 --> 0:10:27.920 is thirty nine at the end of the day, She's 0:10:27.960 --> 0:10:29.880 dealt with a lot of injuries, she has a lot 0:10:29.960 --> 0:10:32.959 going on and yeah, I don't think we're going to 0:10:33.000 --> 0:10:36.200 see her again, But man, I was just really impressed 0:10:36.200 --> 0:10:39.520 with Ronda all week, how present she was, how aware 0:10:39.600 --> 0:10:42.120 she was. She was at her best promotion wise, coming 0:10:42.400 --> 0:10:45.680 you know from WWE, like she was just on top 0:10:45.720 --> 0:10:47.680 of her game in every aspect. So it was great 0:10:47.679 --> 0:10:49.680 to see her go out there and kind of fulfill 0:10:49.760 --> 0:10:50.199 that dream. 0:10:50.480 --> 0:10:52.680 And who knows, maybe at forty five, right, she comes 0:10:52.720 --> 0:10:55.000 back in a super fight against somebody like Holly Holm, 0:10:55.000 --> 0:10:58.560 who certainly is ageless, and there's some value there. And 0:10:58.600 --> 0:11:02.200 not to suggest there wasn't some value in this, but 0:11:02.520 --> 0:11:04.240 I just would be curious to see how she would 0:11:04.280 --> 0:11:07.920 do against the UFC top ten. And not to suggest 0:11:07.960 --> 0:11:10.559 that she'd be ready for Kayla Harrison, no Amanda Nunez, 0:11:10.600 --> 0:11:13.120 but I am wildly curious to see how she would 0:11:13.120 --> 0:11:14.480 do against some of those other fighters. 0:11:14.520 --> 0:11:16.240 But that is not what is meant to be. 0:11:16.320 --> 0:11:19.160 It was this seventeen second fight, And yeah, I don't 0:11:19.160 --> 0:11:21.679 know what you say to people who feel short changed. 0:11:22.559 --> 0:11:25.400 You know, expectations are resentments in waiting. I don't know 0:11:25.400 --> 0:11:28.360 what the expectations were for Gina Carano. I think you're right, 0:11:28.360 --> 0:11:30.480 she's disappointed to not at least have had a chance 0:11:30.559 --> 0:11:33.200 to land a strike and you know, at least maybe 0:11:33.200 --> 0:11:35.760 try to get on your bike early and leverage the 0:11:35.800 --> 0:11:40.360 outside of the hexagon and use the fence or something. 0:11:40.440 --> 0:11:42.040 But yeah, I don't know. 0:11:42.160 --> 0:11:44.640 I mean, I think you're left with some questions on 0:11:44.679 --> 0:11:46.880 the rousy side, and some people are going to be 0:11:46.880 --> 0:11:48.880 dissatisfied almost no matter what the result is. 0:11:48.840 --> 0:11:51.880 So exactly, and to talk about that, you know, it's 0:11:51.920 --> 0:11:56.800 like fans will both you know, be upset with matches 0:11:56.840 --> 0:11:59.560 that go the distance and be like, ah, there's no finishes. 0:11:59.640 --> 0:12:00.640 This was all boring. 0:12:00.679 --> 0:12:02.480 I wish there were finishes and then you know, you 0:12:02.520 --> 0:12:04.280 get a card with all finishes. Oh no, it wasn't 0:12:04.320 --> 0:12:07.360 even competitive. This is ridiculous. I wanted to see more fights. 0:12:07.400 --> 0:12:09.480 So you know, people, OHI is an angle, you know, 0:12:09.559 --> 0:12:13.080 based on their original bias, and you know that's that's 0:12:13.200 --> 0:12:15.640 just fans in any sport. 0:12:15.840 --> 0:12:17.720 But you know, you can't meet everyone happy. 0:12:17.760 --> 0:12:19.800 But yeah, you know, it would be nice, you know, 0:12:19.880 --> 0:12:22.120 if we had a larger roster of fighters. I think 0:12:22.120 --> 0:12:24.439 that's something they're gonna have to work out moving forward 0:12:24.480 --> 0:12:28.240 in the future. Obviously, the UFC has you know, most 0:12:28.280 --> 0:12:29.880 of the best fighters in the world. That's been the 0:12:29.920 --> 0:12:32.400 case for a very long time. So I think that 0:12:32.440 --> 0:12:35.200 will be the challenge for MVP moving forward, and I 0:12:35.240 --> 0:12:36.840 think they're committed to try to do that to the 0:12:36.840 --> 0:12:39.040 best of their ability of what's available, and at least 0:12:39.480 --> 0:12:42.880 offer some kind of competition in regards to fighters looking 0:12:42.880 --> 0:12:45.360 to sign or re sign in the future. 0:12:45.080 --> 0:12:46.880 As well well. 0:12:46.920 --> 0:12:50.400 Put we congratulate Rona Rousey and Gina Carano, who is 0:12:50.600 --> 0:12:54.959 a tremendous human being, and both great human beings, and 0:12:55.200 --> 0:12:57.960 really happy for them and for Women's MMA to have 0:12:58.080 --> 0:13:02.280 this night. They old it has three UFC main events 0:13:02.320 --> 0:13:05.280 and or excuse me, I said, you have made events. 0:13:06.880 --> 0:13:09.200 Main events. I did it. I know I'm allowed to 0:13:09.240 --> 0:13:11.480 do it. I shouldn't want so. 0:13:12.480 --> 0:13:17.520 Francis and Ghanu is absolutely frightening, Kenny. And if you're 0:13:17.559 --> 0:13:21.520 Felipe Lynz trained by the famed American Top Team, you 0:13:21.559 --> 0:13:23.679 have to get your fighter to be of a mentality 0:13:23.720 --> 0:13:26.480 that there's gonna be some destructive stuff coming your way 0:13:26.520 --> 0:13:29.240 and face potentially get broken open. 0:13:29.320 --> 0:13:30.320 But if you can sort. 0:13:30.080 --> 0:13:33.560 Of hang in there, you know, maybe maybe not man 0:13:33.760 --> 0:13:36.480 like my gosh, and Ghanu is watchable. 0:13:36.480 --> 0:13:38.640 What were your thoughts on the predator. 0:13:39.520 --> 0:13:42.320 I was just impressed with the fact that Lynz was 0:13:42.400 --> 0:13:46.319 confident all week and even as the fight was starting, 0:13:46.400 --> 0:13:48.360 Johnn he had that look in his eyes like he's like, 0:13:48.400 --> 0:13:49.160 I'm gonna take this. 0:13:49.760 --> 0:13:50.959 I'm gonna take this. 0:13:51.440 --> 0:13:55.400 But then you get touched by France, and all of 0:13:55.440 --> 0:13:58.080 that just kind of goes down the drain because you 0:13:58.160 --> 0:14:01.720 realize that this is not a normal human in front 0:14:01.760 --> 0:14:03.520 of me. This is a guy who's going to hit me, 0:14:03.559 --> 0:14:07.240 which is with his lunch box hands, and potentially I'll 0:14:07.280 --> 0:14:10.160 never be the same again. Like that, that's the that's 0:14:10.240 --> 0:14:13.160 the threat of going against a guy with that kind 0:14:13.240 --> 0:14:17.560 of freakish power and natural athletic ability. Every time I 0:14:17.600 --> 0:14:20.560 see him, it's almost like he's seven foot tall with 0:14:20.680 --> 0:14:23.040 like four foot wide shoulders. Like I don't know what 0:14:23.080 --> 0:14:25.800 it is about Francis, Like every time I see him, 0:14:25.800 --> 0:14:27.600 I'm like, you are a giant of a man. 0:14:27.640 --> 0:14:29.000 And he's not huge. 0:14:29.040 --> 0:14:32.400 He's not He's not hen and Fajeda or even the 0:14:32.480 --> 0:14:34.960 size of Robelli's But for whatever reason, I see him 0:14:35.280 --> 0:14:37.800 and he just has this all about her where I'm like, dude, 0:14:37.800 --> 0:14:41.080 this guy is an absolute monster. And he didn't even 0:14:41.120 --> 0:14:44.320 hit Linz clean and still Linz was out right like 0:14:44.560 --> 0:14:45.800 it's just nasty stuff. 0:14:47.160 --> 0:14:47.840 Oh my gosh. 0:14:47.920 --> 0:14:49.680 I just think back to some of those Francis sin 0:14:49.720 --> 0:14:53.320 Gano highlights against Alistair overhim in twenty eighteen in Detroit, 0:14:53.360 --> 0:14:56.840 and uh, you're wondering if a man is gonna survive 0:14:57.160 --> 0:15:00.880 that bro. All of that being said, right, I'm a 0:15:00.920 --> 0:15:05.680 fan short for fanatic, right, and about of consequence this was, 0:15:05.880 --> 0:15:08.720 but you know, you're still talking about Francis and Goano 0:15:08.760 --> 0:15:12.000 is a minus two thousand heavyweight, and I don't even 0:15:12.040 --> 0:15:13.960 have a question. I don't even have a follow up 0:15:13.960 --> 0:15:17.000 your honor, right, But again, fight fans would love to 0:15:17.040 --> 0:15:20.000 see Francis and Gano against somebody who you know, maybe 0:15:20.040 --> 0:15:22.040 has a better chance to beat him, at least on paid. 0:15:22.920 --> 0:15:23.160 Yeah. 0:15:23.320 --> 0:15:26.120 I think that, you know, it's tough when you're a 0:15:26.160 --> 0:15:29.720 guy that that's good, that is that good outside of 0:15:29.800 --> 0:15:32.440 the UFC, And and I would argue even the UFC 0:15:32.480 --> 0:15:35.080 Heagway Division, you know, there's not as much parody as 0:15:35.120 --> 0:15:37.920 there used to be. And you know, I think that's 0:15:37.920 --> 0:15:40.120 gonna be the big challenge for Francis moving forward is 0:15:40.120 --> 0:15:43.000 who can we get to give him a challenge. I 0:15:43.040 --> 0:15:46.920 think robelis is interesting and I think he's extremely dangerous. 0:15:46.920 --> 0:15:49.360 Does he have the level of competition that Francis and 0:15:49.400 --> 0:15:52.680 Gano has? Certainly not, but I do think it could 0:15:52.720 --> 0:15:54.880 be a striker's delight and and there's a little bit 0:15:54.920 --> 0:15:58.160 of intrigue there for me, you know, based on how 0:15:58.240 --> 0:16:00.640 Robellis did against Junior Descentos. This is a guy that 0:16:00.680 --> 0:16:03.760 can you know, have he has similar powers and speed 0:16:04.080 --> 0:16:07.280 in a Francis and Ghanu doesn't have the experience, doesn't 0:16:07.360 --> 0:16:12.040 have the grappling. I will definitely acknowledge that. But we'll 0:16:12.040 --> 0:16:13.160 see what happens in the future. 0:16:13.200 --> 0:16:13.400 Man. 0:16:13.560 --> 0:16:15.920 But Francis is an absolute monster. 0:16:16.640 --> 0:16:20.040 Yeah, combat sports is such an interesting world. You know, 0:16:20.080 --> 0:16:22.480 he'll probably like box Jake Paul next or something. 0:16:22.640 --> 0:16:24.800 You know, Yeah, I think I think Jake Paul would 0:16:24.840 --> 0:16:27.120 like that if he wants to come back to boxing. 0:16:27.400 --> 0:16:33.280 Yeah, all right, well, Francis man ferocious, just absolutely ferocious. 0:16:33.320 --> 0:16:36.160 Francis and Ghano and yeah, we'll see what happens. Hopefully 0:16:36.720 --> 0:16:40.840 it's MMA. I'd rather see Francis and MMA than boxing. Yeah, Platinum, 0:16:40.880 --> 0:16:44.640 Mike Perry. A lot of violent things come in your 0:16:44.640 --> 0:16:47.920 way when you fight that individual under almost any rule set, 0:16:48.560 --> 0:16:52.760 A nod to Nate Diez immortalized behind me in defeat. 0:16:52.920 --> 0:16:56.440 But my goodness, man, you know, Mike Perry was very relentless, 0:16:56.440 --> 0:16:57.720 and there's a lot to sort of get into in 0:16:57.800 --> 0:17:00.080 terms of the stoppage and stitched around and everything like that. 0:17:00.160 --> 0:17:02.960 But what'd you make of the co main event or 0:17:03.040 --> 0:17:04.880 the main event number two? 0:17:05.480 --> 0:17:07.840 Yeah, two legends of violence going at it man and 0:17:07.840 --> 0:17:08.719 and Mike Perry. 0:17:08.760 --> 0:17:11.399 I thought looked fantastic. You know. 0:17:12.280 --> 0:17:15.200 The mixing up the strikes was something that I think 0:17:15.240 --> 0:17:19.159 surprised me most. You know, Mike Perry's development, you know, 0:17:19.200 --> 0:17:21.680 has been interesting, you know, seeing go from go from 0:17:21.760 --> 0:17:24.399 MMA to bare knuckle and back to mm A again, 0:17:24.480 --> 0:17:27.320 and the fact that he really put the work in. 0:17:27.800 --> 0:17:29.280 Uh, what was evident to me. 0:17:30.400 --> 0:17:33.719 I think his speed and power has always been impressive. 0:17:33.760 --> 0:17:36.480 But again the variety of the versatility of how he 0:17:36.520 --> 0:17:40.040 was striking and attacking the body going upstairs. I like 0:17:40.119 --> 0:17:42.280 how he was pacing himself. Anytime he would get a 0:17:42.280 --> 0:17:44.919 little bit tired, he would reset, as opposed to maybe 0:17:45.040 --> 0:17:48.040 an earlier, less mature Mike Perry would have just kept 0:17:48.040 --> 0:17:51.040 swinging bong Adam trying to knock him out. But he 0:17:51.119 --> 0:17:52.639 knew the challenge that was in front of him in 0:17:52.720 --> 0:17:57.880 Nadeas and how dangerous Nadiaz is down the stretch. But man, 0:17:58.160 --> 0:18:00.840 I don't think Nadaz really had much of an answer 0:18:00.880 --> 0:18:03.800 to those powerful shots and the mixing up of strikes 0:18:03.800 --> 0:18:05.679 and the elbows that were cutting him up, the knees 0:18:05.720 --> 0:18:09.040 that were cutting him up. And you know, Nate has 0:18:09.040 --> 0:18:11.080 always kind of struggled with his footwork a little bit, 0:18:11.119 --> 0:18:12.760 and I think that came back to plague him here 0:18:12.800 --> 0:18:14.440 as he was kind of caught up against the cage 0:18:14.440 --> 0:18:19.000 and eating various combinations from from Mike Perry. But I 0:18:19.000 --> 0:18:22.720 thought it was exciting while last. But you know, Nate Diez, 0:18:23.119 --> 0:18:25.040 I think defensively could have been better, and I think 0:18:25.080 --> 0:18:27.440 he could have been a little bit more active from 0:18:27.520 --> 0:18:30.000 the get go, but you know, he's notoriously a slow starter. 0:18:30.400 --> 0:18:34.960 Yeah, so at the end of round two, it looked 0:18:35.000 --> 0:18:38.400 like there was a conversation between Stitch and Nate Diaz, 0:18:38.480 --> 0:18:40.360 and it wasn't a very long one. But what were 0:18:40.400 --> 0:18:44.359 your thoughts sitting hexagon side as to the end of 0:18:44.400 --> 0:18:44.720 the fight. 0:18:45.600 --> 0:18:48.000 Yeah, you know, So it wasn't until they were back 0:18:48.200 --> 0:18:51.320 in the corner on the stool that I saw like 0:18:51.400 --> 0:18:57.600 the multiple nasty cuts, lacerations, lacerations on the scalp of 0:18:58.040 --> 0:19:01.119 n Diaz. Now it's not like, yeah, dude, it looked 0:19:01.160 --> 0:19:02.399 like someone took a hatchet. 0:19:02.520 --> 0:19:04.280 I mean it was nasty. 0:19:04.280 --> 0:19:07.439 I mean these were horrible. These were Frankenstein level. 0:19:07.840 --> 0:19:08.000 Yea. 0:19:08.080 --> 0:19:10.879 You know openings on his head and I and we 0:19:10.960 --> 0:19:12.840 know about the scar tissue over his eye and all 0:19:12.880 --> 0:19:13.640 that stuff, but. 0:19:13.640 --> 0:19:14.440 These were new. 0:19:14.680 --> 0:19:17.199 These were on his head, they were very large, and 0:19:17.240 --> 0:19:19.600 of course you have the risk of infection, not. 0:19:19.600 --> 0:19:22.719 To mention all that blood was going into his right eye. 0:19:23.000 --> 0:19:26.000 It's enough dealing with that juggernaut Mike Perry in front 0:19:26.040 --> 0:19:27.879 of you throwing all those strikes with two eyes, but 0:19:27.960 --> 0:19:30.320 with one eye, I think it would have been doing 0:19:30.520 --> 0:19:34.280 their fighter a disservice. Jacob Stitch Duran was actually hired 0:19:34.320 --> 0:19:36.439 by nat As to be there. He was not hired 0:19:36.480 --> 0:19:39.800 by MVP as a cornerman for the night. Nate Diaz 0:19:39.840 --> 0:19:42.720 brought him in and Stitch has been around this game 0:19:42.760 --> 0:19:45.720 forever and there are very few experts in the world 0:19:45.800 --> 0:19:50.320 in my opinion, Stitch, he's an expert at suturing and 0:19:50.680 --> 0:19:54.200 understanding the fight game and knowing when the fighter has 0:19:54.200 --> 0:19:56.840 had enough, and even though he was paid by Nate 0:19:56.880 --> 0:19:58.800 d As. He's like, you know what, no, man, it's 0:19:58.840 --> 0:20:00.680 not worth it. You're not going back out there. It's 0:20:00.720 --> 0:20:03.720 way too dangerous. And you know, I think he made 0:20:04.040 --> 0:20:05.000 the right decision there. 0:20:05.600 --> 0:20:08.600 Yeah, thank goodness that that's sort of the way things went. 0:20:08.680 --> 0:20:11.360 You just didn't need to see him absorb any more strikes. 0:20:11.359 --> 0:20:14.600 But my goodness, man, right, And it's not just because 0:20:14.600 --> 0:20:19.000 I got Nadas in the studio. The heart, the toughness, 0:20:19.000 --> 0:20:23.640 sort of the willingness to absorb punishment like that with 0:20:23.720 --> 0:20:27.359 Mike Perry coming with all limbs and you know, the 0:20:27.400 --> 0:20:30.119 angles of those elbows, man, and the knees and the 0:20:30.160 --> 0:20:35.240 investment in the body is just like Owes. Yeah, absolutely nasty. 0:20:35.400 --> 0:20:39.800 Respect to Nadez. And Mike Perry has high taxes even 0:20:39.840 --> 0:20:41.959 though I think he lives in the state of Florida. 0:20:41.960 --> 0:20:44.639 But he makes a lot of money and he deserves to, right, 0:20:45.080 --> 0:20:47.680 he deserves to. He fights for your money, to quote 0:20:47.760 --> 0:20:51.360 Yanni the Greek, and in all disciplines, in all phases, 0:20:51.400 --> 0:20:54.560 and worked hard to sort of spin this thing back 0:20:54.560 --> 0:20:56.440 to mixed martial arts and perform really well. 0:20:57.000 --> 0:20:59.480 I have chills thinking about it, and it seems so 0:21:00.160 --> 0:21:03.840 you know, simple, But when Mike Perry says some stuff, 0:21:03.880 --> 0:21:06.119 you kind of just feel it in your bones. And 0:21:06.160 --> 0:21:07.919 Mike Perry at the way and he only had like 0:21:07.960 --> 0:21:09.800 a few words like you know, what are your thoughts? 0:21:09.840 --> 0:21:12.399 And leading up this fight, He's like, this is my 0:21:12.640 --> 0:21:13.960 favorite part, and. 0:21:14.040 --> 0:21:18.480 I just believe it, Like this dude was built for battle, 0:21:18.640 --> 0:21:22.359 like a Robbie Lawler, like an Diaz. But this guy, 0:21:22.680 --> 0:21:26.120 he like should have a shield and a sword somewhere. 0:21:26.200 --> 0:21:27.960 You know, back a few hundred years ago, he would 0:21:27.960 --> 0:21:30.120 have been that dude leading the charge because that's. 0:21:29.960 --> 0:21:30.560 Just who he is. 0:21:30.960 --> 0:21:33.840 And so I'm extremely happy for him because he's certainly 0:21:33.840 --> 0:21:36.119 had some ups and downs in life and in the 0:21:36.160 --> 0:21:38.080 fight game. 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He's going to be back here, Kenny, 0:23:16.560 --> 0:23:18.040 and it's going to be in short over less than 0:23:18.040 --> 0:23:20.240 two months from today, in a rematch with Max Holloway 0:23:20.240 --> 0:23:23.359 of a fight that was at featherweight in twenty thirteen, 0:23:23.440 --> 0:23:25.640 this one will be at welterweight. Your thoughts on Connor 0:23:25.720 --> 0:23:28.199 McGregor back in the octagon and ultimately the matchup that 0:23:28.240 --> 0:23:30.320 they chose to proceed with. 0:23:31.680 --> 0:23:32.800 I love that he's back. 0:23:33.160 --> 0:23:36.600 This is obviously, you know, the biggest superstar in mixed 0:23:36.600 --> 0:23:39.159 martial arts history, him and Ronda in my opinion, and 0:23:39.560 --> 0:23:41.720 I think the fact that he's back is a great sign. 0:23:41.840 --> 0:23:44.560 The fact that he's been you know what, seems like 0:23:44.760 --> 0:23:47.840 he's focused and determined to kind of go out there 0:23:47.840 --> 0:23:49.520 and get a win, and he wants a tough challenge. 0:23:49.560 --> 0:23:53.119 I think Max Holloway is a perfect reintroduction into the sport, 0:23:53.880 --> 0:23:56.400 and now Connor is dealing with the long layoff away 0:23:56.440 --> 0:23:59.040 from mixed martial arts right and especially coming off that entry. 0:23:59.080 --> 0:24:01.560 I'm really curious to see how he's going to perform. 0:24:01.800 --> 0:24:04.560 If there's someone who is going to ignore the injury 0:24:04.640 --> 0:24:06.920 and fight the way he normally fights, it's going to 0:24:07.000 --> 0:24:11.120 be someone like Conor McGregor. Max Holloway is quite the challenge, 0:24:11.840 --> 0:24:13.639 but I think this is a fight that makes a 0:24:13.640 --> 0:24:16.439 lot of sense at the point of both of their careers. 0:24:16.480 --> 0:24:18.439 It's gonna happen at one hundred and seventy pounds. It 0:24:18.480 --> 0:24:21.440 looks like I always think that both of those guys 0:24:21.440 --> 0:24:22.480 are probably. 0:24:22.119 --> 0:24:23.480 Best at one point fifty five. 0:24:23.520 --> 0:24:26.200 But either way, I think we have a dandy of 0:24:26.240 --> 0:24:29.600 a matchup and excited to see it. 0:24:29.600 --> 0:24:33.120 It's so interesting when you think about matchmaking and how 0:24:33.160 --> 0:24:36.320 to handle Connor in this spot, and how the BMF 0:24:36.880 --> 0:24:41.400 title fight result almost has no implication as to what 0:24:41.560 --> 0:24:42.480 is happening here. 0:24:42.880 --> 0:24:45.280 I think part of Connor McGregor would love. 0:24:47.119 --> 0:24:49.720 To be competing for the BMF belt, even if maybe 0:24:49.760 --> 0:24:54.240 on paper, the stylistic matchup against Charles olivera isn't as 0:24:54.320 --> 0:24:58.040 quote unquote favorable. But Max Holloway Kenny is minus three 0:24:58.200 --> 0:25:00.480 ninety five right now on DraftKings sports Book, a near 0:25:00.560 --> 0:25:03.720 four to one favorite, and Connor McGregor is plus three ten. 0:25:03.960 --> 0:25:06.159 So are you telling me that Charles Olivera would have 0:25:06.200 --> 0:25:09.399 been minus five hundred. I mean, I understand maybe what 0:25:09.520 --> 0:25:12.400 type of fight you're looking at and what the relative 0:25:12.400 --> 0:25:15.520 public approval rating was for that fight between Charles Oliverra 0:25:15.560 --> 0:25:18.359 and Max Holloway, But in terms of you know, straight 0:25:18.400 --> 0:25:21.760 mixed martial arts, this is a striking fight and it's 0:25:21.800 --> 0:25:24.920 happening at least a weight class above where there's any 0:25:24.920 --> 0:25:26.480 sort of championship consequence. 0:25:26.960 --> 0:25:27.160 Yeah. 0:25:27.200 --> 0:25:28.720 No, I think that's why it's gonna be such a 0:25:28.760 --> 0:25:31.760 great matchup, and I think for both guys. Both guys 0:25:31.840 --> 0:25:34.719 tend to shine when the guy on the opposite end 0:25:34.720 --> 0:25:37.520 of the octagon is a striker and not a grappler. 0:25:38.320 --> 0:25:42.080 Of course, we saw that example best in Max Holloway's 0:25:42.119 --> 0:25:45.280 last fight against Charles Olivera. I think in some ways, 0:25:45.680 --> 0:25:47.840 you know Connor, well, maybe in a lot of ways, 0:25:48.119 --> 0:25:52.439 Connor is probably the better anti wrestler I think, but 0:25:53.240 --> 0:25:55.360 both these guys are going to go out there swinging. 0:25:55.480 --> 0:25:59.400 I think it's gonna make it very exciting. So yeah, 0:25:59.440 --> 0:26:01.760 it's a fight that makes sense. I'm a little surprised 0:26:01.760 --> 0:26:05.439 by maximum coming off of that one against Halloway. Like 0:26:06.240 --> 0:26:08.560 we are we believing that Conor McGregor still doesn't have 0:26:08.600 --> 0:26:10.760 knockout power, you know, Like, are we saying that he 0:26:11.119 --> 0:26:14.280 can't contend with other elite strikers right now at this 0:26:14.320 --> 0:26:17.200 point of career. I think he can. You know, again, 0:26:17.480 --> 0:26:19.439 I've been a big believer in connorcero at the beginning. 0:26:19.480 --> 0:26:23.840 But yeah, man, I feel a little disrespected with those numbers. 0:26:23.920 --> 0:26:27.560 Yeah, when they said a betting line, they're trying to 0:26:27.600 --> 0:26:32.080 get two way action. But Connor McGregor is bursting with 0:26:32.280 --> 0:26:36.919 pride and certainly wants to compete at a high level, 0:26:37.040 --> 0:26:39.960 and I think matchup wise, yeah, I think there's a 0:26:40.000 --> 0:26:43.920 lot to like for Connor plus three ten. We'll see 0:26:43.920 --> 0:26:47.280 if that is a number that gets people to the window. 0:26:47.359 --> 0:26:51.359 But I'm definitely surprised at the discrepancy and the width there. 0:26:51.480 --> 0:26:55.199 I think Connor McGregor can absolutely be competitive off a 0:26:55.280 --> 0:26:59.840 layoff and rest assured that he has been using to 0:27:00.040 --> 0:27:03.400 only twenty six to try to sort of maximize his utility. 0:27:03.440 --> 0:27:07.000 On July eleventh, Max Holloway is going to be just ripping. 0:27:08.240 --> 0:27:10.879 What a tremendous fight. It'll be either way at International 0:27:10.880 --> 0:27:12.119 Fight Week. But yeah, I think there are a lot 0:27:12.119 --> 0:27:14.440 of different directions. I guess you could have gone when 0:27:14.440 --> 0:27:17.920 it came to Connor McGregor, the Michael Chandler fights. Certainly 0:27:18.200 --> 0:27:21.760 that ship had sailed. We mentioned Charles olivera, but we 0:27:21.840 --> 0:27:24.480 didn't really talk about who it might be for Connor 0:27:24.520 --> 0:27:27.680 because it kind of seemed like a foregone conclusion and 0:27:28.119 --> 0:27:30.320 it just would have been elevated if Max had won 0:27:30.359 --> 0:27:32.760 and they were actually competing for a BMF belt, you know. 0:27:33.160 --> 0:27:35.560 So I think Connor's really the only losing party in 0:27:35.560 --> 0:27:37.560 that that he doesn't get to actually compete for a belt, 0:27:38.400 --> 0:27:41.000 you know. But Kenny Max has said that he wants 0:27:41.040 --> 0:27:42.920 to compete at eighty five before all. 0:27:42.880 --> 0:27:43.480 Is said and done. 0:27:43.520 --> 0:27:46.600 So I'm excited to see, you know, Holloway all yoked 0:27:46.600 --> 0:27:50.119 out at seventy. But yeah, and he will be Yeah, 0:27:50.440 --> 0:27:53.439 very interesting fight at UFC three twenty nine. And certainly 0:27:53.440 --> 0:27:56.600 happy for Connor McGregor because even though his return wasn't 0:27:56.640 --> 0:27:59.240 as expeditious from the leg break as Chris Wadman or 0:27:59.280 --> 0:28:02.280 Anderson Silva. You know, it's a lot to come back from, 0:28:02.280 --> 0:28:04.840 and we hope that the last few weeks here. Yes, 0:28:04.920 --> 0:28:07.159 we can say a few weeks of training camp. Go 0:28:07.240 --> 0:28:09.719 well at your headline or UFC three two I McGregor 0:28:09.800 --> 0:28:13.600 versus Holloway too, Kenny, excuse me. We have some other 0:28:14.200 --> 0:28:17.720 fights on that card very quickly, if I could, Patty 0:28:17.760 --> 0:28:21.920 pimblet versus Ben Was Saint Denis is the co main event. 0:28:22.440 --> 0:28:25.600 I don't know if you care to venture a guest 0:28:25.640 --> 0:28:27.159 as to who you think the betting favorite is and 0:28:27.160 --> 0:28:28.760 then the early thoughts on that comin event. 0:28:29.840 --> 0:28:33.680 Hmmm, I would say Patty slight favorites. Is that accurate? 0:28:33.800 --> 0:28:36.240 Or no, Ben Was Antony is the minus one to 0:28:36.320 --> 0:28:37.520 eighty betting favorite. 0:28:37.520 --> 0:28:41.200 Oh wow, that's interesting. See, Okay, we have two grapplers 0:28:41.240 --> 0:28:41.680 going at it. 0:28:41.920 --> 0:28:46.880 I think that Ben Wall perhaps the better wrestler, better 0:28:46.920 --> 0:28:50.040 takedown guy, but I think Patty is the better submission artist. 0:28:50.080 --> 0:28:53.160 So I think that's a really interesting fight. Both guys 0:28:53.200 --> 0:28:58.200 are crazy aggressive, whether it's with striking or grappling, hunting submissions, 0:28:58.200 --> 0:29:01.120 so I think that's a I think that's great matchmaking 0:29:01.240 --> 0:29:01.600 right there. 0:29:02.080 --> 0:29:04.520 Yeah, Cody, don't give him the lines. Yeah, I think 0:29:04.520 --> 0:29:08.000 the matchmaking is great. I think it's probably closer to 0:29:08.040 --> 0:29:09.680 a pick him. It sounds to me like Kenny Floory 0:29:09.760 --> 0:29:14.320 needs to make a deposited drafting sportsbook after the proceedings 0:29:14.320 --> 0:29:17.280 today and maybe bet On Connor and Patty you got 0:29:17.320 --> 0:29:21.200 Cody Garbrandt versus Adrian yan Yez. Robert Whittaker in his 0:29:21.320 --> 0:29:23.800 UFC light heavyweight debut, or perhaps it's not his two 0:29:23.880 --> 0:29:26.240 hundred and five pound debut. I mean we called his 0:29:26.720 --> 0:29:31.040 tough Smashes Gold Coast UFC debut against Bradley Scott. That 0:29:31.120 --> 0:29:34.520 was at eighty five if memory serves, he's fighting Nikita Krillov. 0:29:34.600 --> 0:29:37.320 You got any thoughts on that? Wow? At two of five? 0:29:37.400 --> 0:29:41.280 Yeah, I like that matchup for Whitaker. You know, Krillof 0:29:42.160 --> 0:29:43.960 is kind of a maniac when he fights. You know, 0:29:44.200 --> 0:29:47.160 he's very aggressive, gets in your face. So I think 0:29:47.160 --> 0:29:49.160 it's going to be exciting while it lasts. I think 0:29:49.480 --> 0:29:53.560 Whittaker's ability to withstand punishment at two hundred and five 0:29:53.560 --> 0:29:55.600 pounds remains to be seen, so he's got to be 0:29:55.640 --> 0:29:57.400 careful against what I think is going to be a 0:29:57.480 --> 0:30:01.280 much bigger krill Off but hey, Whitaker is gonna be 0:30:01.280 --> 0:30:04.040 the faster guy I would imagine so interesting. I'm looking 0:30:04.040 --> 0:30:05.640 forward to seeing him at two o five. 0:30:06.560 --> 0:30:08.840 And by the way, I'd be shocked if Connor McGregor 0:30:08.880 --> 0:30:11.800 closes north of plus three hundred. He's plus three ten 0:30:11.880 --> 0:30:14.000 right now in DraftKings Sports Book, I would be shocked. 0:30:15.200 --> 0:30:19.479 Ken Flow's favorite fighter, or at least top five favorite 0:30:19.560 --> 0:30:24.440 UFC fighter, Lonnie Cavanaugh is competing against Brandon Royvall in 0:30:24.480 --> 0:30:25.320 the Flyway division. 0:30:25.320 --> 0:30:27.800 Look at you smile, You're like, yeah, you f C showcase. 0:30:27.840 --> 0:30:31.080 If my guy at UFC three two nine, any idea 0:30:31.120 --> 0:30:33.840 who the betting favorite is? Kavanaugh and Royvall at one 0:30:33.920 --> 0:30:36.360 hundred and twenty five pickles. 0:30:36.480 --> 0:30:39.920 That fight is gonna be so good. Those guys are 0:30:40.000 --> 0:30:43.560 absolute maniacs. Okay, that's gonna be a good, good one. 0:30:43.640 --> 0:30:48.960 So I'm so bad at this. Roybal slight favorite. 0:30:49.800 --> 0:30:53.480 Lonnie is minus one seventy. Let's go okay. 0:30:53.800 --> 0:30:55.200 Part of the reason I ask you to pick the 0:30:55.240 --> 0:30:57.840 betting lines is because it gives us a little bit 0:30:57.840 --> 0:30:59.480 of a leads. And do you think's gonna win the fight? 0:31:00.000 --> 0:31:02.440 He's not a one seventy. Roy Vall plus one forty two. 0:31:02.640 --> 0:31:05.640 You also got Tracy Cortez fighting Wongtong a few other highlights. 0:31:05.640 --> 0:31:09.600 I would like to get to, so, Cory Sanhaegeny, So 0:31:09.920 --> 0:31:13.080 get to a point in your career right where you 0:31:13.160 --> 0:31:17.480 give Mario Bautista this rematch that he so richly deserves, 0:31:18.560 --> 0:31:21.240 and shout out to Cory Sandhagen forgiving him the rematch. 0:31:21.280 --> 0:31:23.040 Right you need? Is there a lota sognia to fight 0:31:23.120 --> 0:31:23.680 Joe Pifer? 0:31:23.800 --> 0:31:23.920 Right? 0:31:23.960 --> 0:31:25.360 You need these things to happen. 0:31:25.480 --> 0:31:27.760 In a perfect world, Sean O'Malley would be getting my 0:31:27.760 --> 0:31:29.760 applause because he would have fought Cory san Haagen on 0:31:29.800 --> 0:31:32.479 the White House cart with respect to my man, Aman's 0:31:32.480 --> 0:31:34.640 a hobby, was far us a hobby not in Arnold 0:31:34.640 --> 0:31:35.320 Allen's corner. 0:31:35.320 --> 0:31:38.480 By the way, I didn't see him. I didn't see 0:31:38.520 --> 0:31:39.040 him here. 0:31:39.360 --> 0:31:41.360 Well, I think it's all hands on, amen, right now, 0:31:41.360 --> 0:31:43.200 all hands on, decade. It's a hobby fighting at the 0:31:43.200 --> 0:31:45.600 goddamn White House here in a few weeks, I don't know, know, 0:31:45.720 --> 0:31:48.080 perhaps there was a bar Mitzvah or something. 0:31:48.120 --> 0:31:48.840 I really don't know. 0:31:49.120 --> 0:31:54.360 But Cory Sanagen is minus one fifty five Mario Bautists 0:31:54.360 --> 0:31:59.040 plus one thirty. But it's just outstanding matchmaking and you 0:31:59.160 --> 0:32:00.520 need both guys to except the fight. 0:32:00.560 --> 0:32:02.760 You got Gable Steveson as a minus. Go ahead. 0:32:02.800 --> 0:32:04.800 You want to say something, well, I was gonna say 0:32:05.520 --> 0:32:08.520 risky rematch for san Haagan to take, you know, because 0:32:08.600 --> 0:32:10.480 obviously Bautista. 0:32:10.080 --> 0:32:12.920 Has been on one. He has a much improved. 0:32:12.440 --> 0:32:16.160 Fighter and and and perhaps shows the confidence level of 0:32:16.200 --> 0:32:18.000 san Hagan, you know, to take that one. 0:32:18.040 --> 0:32:19.960 So yeah, that's a great one too. 0:32:20.200 --> 0:32:22.760 All right, let's get to the star of the show 0:32:23.240 --> 0:32:26.760 and the Ray Long go minute. 0:32:27.040 --> 0:32:29.000 Now times for the Ray Long Minute. 0:32:29.040 --> 0:32:30.280 I'm going to push a hole in this. 0:32:32.240 --> 0:32:33.360 The Ray Long. 0:32:33.440 --> 0:32:40.520 Minute, the John Nick and Kenny Florian podcast. 0:32:43.400 --> 0:32:48.040 Oh my god, there is First off, I want to say, Kenny, 0:32:48.120 --> 0:32:53.040 your hand looks absolutely amazing. I might have to go. 0:32:54.480 --> 0:32:56.680 Walking advertisement for this. 0:32:56.920 --> 0:32:59.640 You are walking Ray. 0:33:00.280 --> 0:33:03.560 As I mentioned, some of my personal money will be 0:33:03.800 --> 0:33:08.360 contributed towards your hair transplant. Right, you just got to. 0:33:08.360 --> 0:33:09.520 Turn those words into action. 0:33:09.600 --> 0:33:13.680 We will absolutely contribute. 0:33:12.680 --> 0:33:16.880 Before I sleep, I want to introduce you to my 0:33:16.960 --> 0:33:17.880 plumber today. 0:33:18.320 --> 0:33:21.280 Yeah, thank you. 0:33:20.680 --> 0:33:23.280 We got the I got, I got the lorn guy 0:33:23.320 --> 0:33:25.840 in the Plumber amazing. 0:33:26.200 --> 0:33:29.880 Well, we have a lot of thrown sport coffee showing 0:33:29.960 --> 0:33:34.200 up to Longos Mixed Martial Arts. So we have a 0:33:34.240 --> 0:33:37.360 lot to get into with you today. Uh, first of all, 0:33:37.440 --> 0:33:39.240 hit the applause button. Did you see our man Kenny 0:33:39.240 --> 0:33:40.680 Florian on Netflix this weekend? 0:33:40.720 --> 0:33:41.880 Do you see that? Right? 0:33:42.560 --> 0:33:43.880 We're so happy for that. 0:33:44.360 --> 0:33:48.360 Yeah, thank you, Okay, thank you guys. All right, there 0:33:48.360 --> 0:33:49.680 it is there, It is all right. 0:33:49.840 --> 0:33:54.479 So let us set up this catchwaight affair involving Pumi 0:33:54.560 --> 0:33:59.000 Nakuda if we could, and perhaps some post traumatic stress 0:33:59.840 --> 0:34:02.120 and entering for Ray long ago, given what we saw 0:34:02.160 --> 0:34:05.120 against Marob Dwallis Willy or excuse me, Ricky Smolle and 0:34:05.120 --> 0:34:06.400 Morob Dallas Wheely back in the day. 0:34:06.400 --> 0:34:08.920 Even though an exact cop it certainly is not. 0:34:09.600 --> 0:34:13.239 Kenny was there technical submission by rear naked choke at 0:34:13.320 --> 0:34:16.240 four fifty nine of round three, which makes no sense 0:34:16.239 --> 0:34:17.520 as I look at that right now. 0:34:17.760 --> 0:34:19.080 It was Adriano. 0:34:18.600 --> 0:34:22.200 Maris over Pumi Nakuda right as far as my eyes 0:34:22.280 --> 0:34:26.920 can tell, Ray and Kenny Nakuda was conscious and but 0:34:27.040 --> 0:34:32.000 I held the choke after the final horn. So if 0:34:32.000 --> 0:34:35.439 the scorecards read for Nakuda, he should still be undefeated Ray. 0:34:35.480 --> 0:34:38.719 And uh, yeah, the fight game just continues to uh 0:34:39.239 --> 0:34:41.160 taketh away more than it giveth. 0:34:41.200 --> 0:34:44.120 I guess huh, Look, we're gonna have to go what 0:34:44.160 --> 0:34:46.919 we are. There's just no accountability. This is the only 0:34:47.000 --> 0:34:51.880 agency that Have they ever been wrong ever? Like in life? 0:34:52.000 --> 0:34:56.160 Has everybody ever been totally right? Is that even make 0:34:56.440 --> 0:34:59.560 any fucking sense to anybody? Have they ever been wrong ever? 0:35:00.480 --> 0:35:02.640 This is a pretty this is a pretty small bunch 0:35:02.719 --> 0:35:06.040 of guys. Man, They've never been wrong, and they're not 0:35:06.120 --> 0:35:09.200 gonna do nothing this time. You know, when Morob went out, 0:35:09.239 --> 0:35:11.520 they wouldn't even take his appeal. How about that? They 0:35:11.520 --> 0:35:14.680 wouldn't even hear it, right, talk about arrogance. 0:35:14.600 --> 0:35:17.439 This, though, is far more egregious. Kenny, Is it not right? 0:35:17.560 --> 0:35:21.760 Ricky Simone? You know final horn? There was nothing after 0:35:21.840 --> 0:35:24.600 the fact, right this dude? I mean, Ken Fill, you 0:35:24.640 --> 0:35:26.440 were there, please enlighten us. 0:35:28.120 --> 0:35:30.000 Well it was crazy, right, I mean it was an 0:35:30.040 --> 0:35:32.919 awesome fight. I think both guys were fighting their asses off. 0:35:32.920 --> 0:35:35.799 It was back and forth, and I thought Poomi was 0:35:35.840 --> 0:35:38.319 on his way to a potential win there, and but 0:35:38.400 --> 0:35:41.520 I obviously had a strong round three and finished strong 0:35:41.560 --> 0:35:45.600 there got the back. I was like, okay, he held 0:35:45.640 --> 0:35:47.640 on to the choke, and that's the big thing. It's like, 0:35:47.800 --> 0:35:52.320 at what point was poomi nakuda out? He was fine? 0:35:52.360 --> 0:35:54.920 He was conscious now he it looked like you know, 0:35:54.920 --> 0:35:56.520 I know al Jo said, he held on for like 0:35:56.520 --> 0:35:58.359 two to three seconds. If you look at it, it's 0:35:58.400 --> 0:36:00.839 probably one second. But as we all know, you can 0:36:00.880 --> 0:36:03.960 be conscious one second and one one more second after 0:36:04.000 --> 0:36:07.200 that be out right, So that's all it takes. So 0:36:07.360 --> 0:36:10.600 I was a little surprised because this is this wasn't 0:36:10.800 --> 0:36:13.560 just a decision that happened in real time, okay, And 0:36:13.600 --> 0:36:15.719 if it was, you're like, I kind of get it 0:36:15.760 --> 0:36:18.600 because the ref's there. It happened so quickly, YadA YadA. 0:36:18.640 --> 0:36:21.120 What exactly when did you, you know, break them apart? 0:36:21.520 --> 0:36:23.799 And her her was a little bit late on that 0:36:23.880 --> 0:36:26.120 should have been right on top of it. You see 0:36:26.120 --> 0:36:28.120 the guy in the rare naked choke. You have to 0:36:28.200 --> 0:36:32.160 be there already. You shouldn't be, you know, several yards away, right, 0:36:32.200 --> 0:36:35.279 So there's that part of it, and again not an 0:36:35.320 --> 0:36:36.000 easy job. 0:36:36.320 --> 0:36:37.200 I acknowledge that. 0:36:38.280 --> 0:36:40.839 But then you know, you held on there at the end, 0:36:40.960 --> 0:36:43.080 and then you have a reviewed So there was a 0:36:43.080 --> 0:36:47.640 couple referees outside reviewing tape and they still went with 0:36:47.760 --> 0:36:50.360 that decision, which was kind of a head scratcher. And 0:36:50.760 --> 0:36:53.960 you know, I know that myself and even Sean Weelock, 0:36:54.000 --> 0:36:57.160 who was our expert, you know, judge on the outside, 0:36:57.360 --> 0:36:59.560 unofficial judge we. 0:36:59.640 --> 0:37:02.480 Call of thought that, hey, Poomy probably got screwed there. 0:37:02.960 --> 0:37:04.480 Yeah. And I'll tell you the other thing is, I'm 0:37:04.480 --> 0:37:06.879 not one hundred percent sure, but I think he when 0:37:06.920 --> 0:37:09.600 he broke it up, he takes Pomi's hands off, first 0:37:10.080 --> 0:37:11.840 the hands he was fighting, joke. 0:37:12.440 --> 0:37:14.719 And a guy which was the lay okay, yeah, which 0:37:14.719 --> 0:37:16.040 the layers, which is even. 0:37:15.840 --> 0:37:18.040 Worse like, he didn't go for He didn't go for 0:37:18.120 --> 0:37:20.560 the other guy's hands, which would have relieved the pressure. 0:37:20.920 --> 0:37:23.520 He went for Pomi's hands. And the guy should have 0:37:23.560 --> 0:37:27.040 let go exactly at that point, but he didn't, and 0:37:27.040 --> 0:37:31.000 and and the kid got screwed. And look, man, uh, 0:37:31.080 --> 0:37:34.040 how do you have five geniuses around a teleprompt and 0:37:34.160 --> 0:37:36.720 looking at it they come up with four fifty nine? 0:37:37.120 --> 0:37:40.600 Are you fucking joking? Wow? They're pretty good, man, They 0:37:40.600 --> 0:37:45.279 are pretty fucking good. And they had to do that. 0:37:45.280 --> 0:37:47.680 That's why I say it's all cover your rass, cover 0:37:47.800 --> 0:37:50.399 your ass covery rats, cover your wrists right, and if. 0:37:50.320 --> 0:37:52.839 Somebody if it's four fifty nine, he definitely was not out. 0:37:53.600 --> 0:37:57.640 Somebody the ship added his motherfuckers that nothing's gonna change. 0:37:58.360 --> 0:38:02.400 I mean, something's gotta happen. But look, at the end 0:38:02.440 --> 0:38:04.680 of the day, I think, look, I love the kid. 0:38:05.000 --> 0:38:07.920 I think he made a great show for himself. Short, short, 0:38:08.400 --> 0:38:12.520 short notice fight maybe ten days. I know, I couldn't 0:38:12.520 --> 0:38:14.680 say nothing about it, you know, when he found out 0:38:14.719 --> 0:38:18.280 and they had to wait for the contracts and again 0:38:18.400 --> 0:38:20.479 that fight was supposed to be at one twenty five. 0:38:21.040 --> 0:38:23.640 The word came back one thirty and there's no fight. 0:38:23.960 --> 0:38:26.560 So they fucked him on that toe. And that's a fact. 0:38:27.080 --> 0:38:31.520 So the whole thing is rotten, you know. Just but look, 0:38:32.440 --> 0:38:35.640 Matt got knocked out his first UFC fight. Al Joe 0:38:35.760 --> 0:38:40.440 got dismantled, you know, like by Marais. You know, Morob 0:38:40.560 --> 0:38:43.400 lost that fight that you got to hit ad versa. 0:38:43.480 --> 0:38:45.600 You got to come out swinging. Man. You got three 0:38:45.640 --> 0:38:49.600 motherfuckers that you're close to that became world champions. And 0:38:49.600 --> 0:38:51.640 that's all that I give a shit about, right. 0:38:51.719 --> 0:38:54.279 I think myself and a lot of people were really 0:38:54.320 --> 0:38:58.200 impressed with Pumi all week, like from you know, him 0:38:58.200 --> 0:39:01.080 being on the mic, to being pro through and through 0:39:01.200 --> 0:39:03.160 the things that he was saying to promote himself and 0:39:03.200 --> 0:39:06.279 promote the fight, and to his performance. I think there's 0:39:06.320 --> 0:39:08.640 no way he lost any of that. I think he'll 0:39:08.680 --> 0:39:10.800 be back. I think there's no question that he deserves 0:39:10.800 --> 0:39:14.120 a rematch, and hopefully they do it. Man, but he 0:39:14.239 --> 0:39:17.520 has such a promising future. Man, he's a fantastic fighter. 0:39:17.760 --> 0:39:21.279 Really smart, intelligent fighter. Plus he's he's got movie star 0:39:21.400 --> 0:39:23.759 looks too. Man, he's great on the mic. He's a 0:39:23.760 --> 0:39:26.560 good look really kid, you know, dude, I remember the 0:39:26.600 --> 0:39:28.799 first day that kid walked into the gym. He was 0:39:28.880 --> 0:39:32.040 such a nice kid when he went to Hofstra. I 0:39:32.400 --> 0:39:34.880 made somebody at Hofstra's, like right down the block from 0:39:34.920 --> 0:39:37.799 the gym. I was so protecting. I made somebody drive 0:39:37.880 --> 0:39:39.239 him back to the gym. I didn't even want him 0:39:39.239 --> 0:39:42.000 walk in the streets alone. Like That's how he gave 0:39:42.080 --> 0:39:44.680 me that type of impression when he came in the gym. 0:39:44.719 --> 0:39:45.360 I'm not kidding. 0:39:45.360 --> 0:39:48.560 He was just a good dude, man, And I hate 0:39:48.560 --> 0:39:51.680 to see bad shit happen to the good people. And 0:39:51.680 --> 0:39:54.359 this kid's been waiting his whole life to get on 0:39:54.440 --> 0:39:57.719 some sort of big stage and things were going good 0:39:57.800 --> 0:40:00.000 and to just get screwed over like that kind of. 0:40:00.560 --> 0:40:04.319 Right therein lies the issue. I mean, this podcast has 0:40:04.440 --> 0:40:07.160 championed the cause of Poomi Nakudah for a long time 0:40:07.200 --> 0:40:10.239 and you can lean into the adversity and you know, 0:40:10.400 --> 0:40:12.640 Jocko Willink would tell you good right, and I do 0:40:12.719 --> 0:40:14.920 think there is a lot to learn from. But it 0:40:15.040 --> 0:40:17.359 is unfortunate, like Ken Flow, this ain't gonna help him 0:40:17.360 --> 0:40:19.600 get to the UFC quicker, right, Like that is the 0:40:19.640 --> 0:40:22.959 reality of this, and Ray, it's unfortunate that there's sort 0:40:22.960 --> 0:40:26.560 of no appeals process that makes you feel encouraged that 0:40:26.640 --> 0:40:28.960 maybe you could get this overturned. Is that your phone 0:40:29.000 --> 0:40:33.640 episode five hundred ninety six. So Andy Foster's the man 0:40:33.840 --> 0:40:36.239 and really cares about the sport and has a rich 0:40:36.360 --> 0:40:39.960 history in it. But yeah, I don't think you're getting 0:40:40.000 --> 0:40:43.200 any sort of appeal and hopefully this is something that 0:40:43.239 --> 0:40:46.320 can be channeled in the right way for Poomi nakuda 0:40:46.400 --> 0:40:50.920 But this didn't really have a parallel to Morob Dwallis 0:40:50.960 --> 0:40:54.399 Willie and Ricky Simoneray because that was sort of there 0:40:54.440 --> 0:40:57.959 was no sort of foul or extended you know who's 0:40:57.960 --> 0:41:02.480 samarpoliatis like, joke, No, I'm just kidding, mister. Yeah, to 0:41:02.520 --> 0:41:05.600 tell me yo, who's but to go? 0:41:06.480 --> 0:41:09.600 But the point is you made the decision after the 0:41:09.640 --> 0:41:11.880 fight was over. The ref didn't stop that fight. The 0:41:11.920 --> 0:41:13.880 fight was over. You go to my school because not. 0:41:15.360 --> 0:41:16.919 Hear the horn right right? 0:41:17.080 --> 0:41:18.719 You know what I mean? So yeah, I mean you've 0:41:18.760 --> 0:41:21.359 got it. You know, I only want to start going back. 0:41:21.400 --> 0:41:24.080 You'll get me crazy again. I'm in I'm in the 0:41:24.160 --> 0:41:25.120 happy place. 0:41:24.920 --> 0:41:26.680 Right all right, So let's be efficient because we've got 0:41:26.719 --> 0:41:29.080 a lot to get to. Okay, Ray Long Go Minute 0:41:29.120 --> 0:41:31.840 presented by Nothing Today here on the Anican Florian Podcast 0:41:31.880 --> 0:41:34.080 No presenting sponsor for the Ray Long Minute for the 0:41:34.080 --> 0:41:36.120 five hundred and ninety six show in a Row. 0:41:36.160 --> 0:41:38.200 By the way, I think we're gonna we're gonna fix 0:41:38.280 --> 0:41:39.959 that the Chicken PA. 0:41:41.400 --> 0:41:46.000 Know they'll send you. You like that, right? 0:41:46.160 --> 0:41:46.640 You like that? 0:41:46.680 --> 0:41:49.759 Holy Ship. I'll be sponsoring myself soon. 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Please support our 0:43:17.040 --> 0:43:20.040 show and tell them the anti camploring podcast cent you 0:43:20.080 --> 0:43:22.560 not the very long go minute, The antikmploring podcast, cencha 0:43:22.640 --> 0:43:24.520 Ray you wearing a chain? 0:43:24.760 --> 0:43:27.440 No? I just have. It's got a little cross on, 0:43:27.520 --> 0:43:30.239 that's it. But I got I got. Those chains look 0:43:30.280 --> 0:43:32.240 like they're from the eighties. Those are the old style 0:43:32.320 --> 0:43:35.160 of old change we used to have. I might have 0:43:35.200 --> 0:43:38.920 to break out my uh Disco day chains. 0:43:38.840 --> 0:43:42.439 Miami links, my man, No, this I don't think is that? 0:43:42.560 --> 0:43:46.239 But Sean Strickland recently said something about guys wearing chains. 0:43:46.239 --> 0:43:47.560 I think I talked about it on the podcast. So 0:43:47.600 --> 0:43:49.920 I made sure for our last fighter meeting that I 0:43:49.960 --> 0:43:51.160 wasn't wearing that chain because I. 0:43:51.160 --> 0:43:53.680 Want to keep I want to keep the focus on 0:43:53.719 --> 0:43:54.440 the fighting, you know. 0:43:54.600 --> 0:43:57.280 And what's what's he got? What's what's his problem with chains? 0:43:57.320 --> 0:43:58.759 What's he what's he saying about that? 0:43:59.239 --> 0:44:01.279 Well? I think he's that sort of says something about 0:44:01.280 --> 0:44:03.279 a dude who feels the need to wear a chain, 0:44:03.440 --> 0:44:05.480 you know, especially you know, maybe. 0:44:05.960 --> 0:44:06.320 I like it. 0:44:06.440 --> 0:44:09.440 Look that guy's onto something. I might not even disagree 0:44:09.480 --> 0:44:12.080 with him. Yeah, no, I mean this, this was a 0:44:12.120 --> 0:44:14.040 gift us. I probably wouldn't wear it myself. 0:44:14.120 --> 0:44:15.879 But so. 0:44:17.840 --> 0:44:22.279 Arnold Allen over melks Iel Costa in the UFC main event. 0:44:22.360 --> 0:44:24.120 Ray were you able to watch that in all of 0:44:24.160 --> 0:44:25.840 the combat sports madness this weekend? 0:44:26.400 --> 0:44:28.840 Uh? I caught it at a bar because you know, 0:44:28.880 --> 0:44:30.920 I promoted fights, That's why I wasn't with Pumi. I 0:44:30.960 --> 0:44:33.520 had a big fight promotion on Long Island and I 0:44:33.600 --> 0:44:35.520 did catch the end of it at a boss. So 0:44:35.560 --> 0:44:39.400 I can't really say too much about it. But it 0:44:39.440 --> 0:44:43.480 did look like Arnold was having not having a problem. 0:44:43.480 --> 0:44:47.440 He's definitely he's just a super technical guy by Allan 0:44:47.760 --> 0:44:51.000 and h and maybe that guy stepped up a little 0:44:51.000 --> 0:44:53.440 too quick. But I can't really say, you know what, 0:44:53.280 --> 0:44:55.520 I what I was watching, I was drinking, I was eating. 0:44:55.640 --> 0:44:58.719 I don't know, but what were you drinking? No? I 0:44:58.760 --> 0:45:01.759 was just drinking more and I wasn't drink because I was, 0:45:02.120 --> 0:45:05.000 but I was with the al Joe did an appearance 0:45:05.080 --> 0:45:07.839 actually down the block from where the fight was, so 0:45:07.880 --> 0:45:10.040 we all ran over there after the fight was over, 0:45:10.120 --> 0:45:12.480 and he's trying. He gets me to try it, gets 0:45:12.560 --> 0:45:14.200 me to drink a bottle of that rum. I just 0:45:14.200 --> 0:45:17.640 can't do it, and then the rum. The rum is fantastic, 0:45:18.080 --> 0:45:20.080 but I can't. You know, if I start drinking, I'm 0:45:20.120 --> 0:45:21.760 just gonna be shocked for two days. 0:45:21.760 --> 0:45:24.200 At this point, Kenny, do you think Ray could get 0:45:24.239 --> 0:45:26.880 the Ray Longo Meda to be sponsored by Funk Harber. 0:45:27.120 --> 0:45:28.440 Wow, let's go. 0:45:28.760 --> 0:45:33.960 Yeah, you will give you like seventy eight percent of 0:45:34.000 --> 0:45:35.240 the profits. 0:45:35.520 --> 0:45:35.880 Wow. 0:45:36.200 --> 0:45:39.480 I think that would really help his brand too. I 0:45:39.560 --> 0:45:44.600 just really it's not nice he took I'm serious. 0:45:44.840 --> 0:45:46.080 Well, Kenny's happening. 0:45:46.600 --> 0:45:49.200 I'm him. I mean, he's gonna come to he's teaching 0:45:49.239 --> 0:45:51.279 tonight at the school. I'm gonna I'm gonna pitch it 0:45:51.320 --> 0:45:51.680 to him. 0:45:51.880 --> 0:45:52.839 Let him know it. 0:45:52.960 --> 0:45:53.120 Man. 0:45:54.120 --> 0:45:58.359 Anyway, Kenny saw that fight, Yeah, well Ray, So yeah, 0:45:58.440 --> 0:46:00.719 first of all, I thought Alan looked fantastic. 0:46:00.760 --> 0:46:00.960 Man. 0:46:01.040 --> 0:46:03.960 Yeah, you know, because I do think that Melkie's eyel 0:46:04.360 --> 0:46:07.839 is a threat and extremely dangerous. And I thought Allan 0:46:07.880 --> 0:46:10.400 stepped up his game and to me looked way sharper 0:46:10.440 --> 0:46:11.479 than I've seen him in the past. 0:46:11.520 --> 0:46:12.560 So I thought that was a big win. 0:46:13.840 --> 0:46:16.520 Yeah, I agree with you. I actually only saw a 0:46:16.520 --> 0:46:18.319 couple of fights. I went back. I saw a well 0:46:18.320 --> 0:46:20.000 make a fight just to see how he would do 0:46:20.120 --> 0:46:24.600 after a loss. But he looks like he's he's uh, 0:46:24.640 --> 0:46:27.640 he's running into some rough This is a really wicked 0:46:27.680 --> 0:46:31.280 sports sports nuts man. You could be You're on cloud 0:46:31.360 --> 0:46:34.960 nine one day and you're in the toilet the next day. Man, 0:46:35.360 --> 0:46:39.160 you've got to be mentally, mentally squared away to participate 0:46:39.200 --> 0:46:40.759 in the sport ray. 0:46:41.120 --> 0:46:43.840 You know, obviously we had the Ronda Rousey Gina Carnal 0:46:43.920 --> 0:46:47.200 fight that went down, and you know, the overall consensus, 0:46:47.200 --> 0:46:49.600 it seemed like people before the fight, uh, they were 0:46:49.640 --> 0:46:51.360 coming up to me and talking about it. It's you know, 0:46:52.120 --> 0:46:56.440 they loved the fact that they had, you know, stars 0:46:56.480 --> 0:46:59.560 from kind of the the old times when they thought 0:46:59.560 --> 0:47:02.279 that you know, MMA was at its peak perhaps and 0:47:02.320 --> 0:47:05.319 we have another star from that peak MMA era. 0:47:05.400 --> 0:47:07.240 In my opinion, Conn McGregor coming. 0:47:07.040 --> 0:47:09.440 Back, does that get your juices flowing the fact that 0:47:09.480 --> 0:47:12.239 he's coming back and going against another you know superstar 0:47:12.400 --> 0:47:14.840 Max Holloway. It does for me. I think it's exciting. 0:47:14.840 --> 0:47:17.880 But what do you expect from Connor? And are you 0:47:17.960 --> 0:47:19.480 excited with the announcement? 0:47:19.520 --> 0:47:20.000 What's the deal? 0:47:20.560 --> 0:47:24.440 I gotta tell you, man, it's not I'm not that excited. 0:47:24.520 --> 0:47:28.000 I'm happy for everybody involved, but I'm not. It's not something. 0:47:29.040 --> 0:47:31.200 I don't know. It's been too long man at this point. 0:47:32.840 --> 0:47:34.920 So you have your doubts about the way he's going 0:47:35.000 --> 0:47:36.319 to perform. Is that what it is? 0:47:36.520 --> 0:47:41.839 Or Uh? I don't know. I'm the wrong guy to ask. 0:47:41.880 --> 0:47:45.080 I don't I don't know. There's something it's I don't know. 0:47:45.080 --> 0:47:47.120 Maybe because he said he was coming back a hundred 0:47:47.120 --> 0:47:49.520 times and I just think I'm the type of guy 0:47:49.680 --> 0:47:51.400 I just write you off at that point, you know 0:47:51.440 --> 0:47:53.800 what I mean. So now he's coming back. But look, 0:47:54.239 --> 0:47:57.279 he branded himself. He did more for the sport than 0:47:57.840 --> 0:48:00.560 ninety nine point five percent of people did, so he 0:48:00.640 --> 0:48:03.680 deserves everything he did. I I just hope he's his 0:48:03.760 --> 0:48:07.319 training right, you know, he's not drinking, partying and doing 0:48:07.360 --> 0:48:09.640 that ship and uh not just coming in for a 0:48:09.719 --> 0:48:12.200 payday or for whatever other reason. I hope, I hope 0:48:12.200 --> 0:48:14.200 it's a good fight. That that that I hope, but 0:48:16.480 --> 0:48:19.279 I don't know. I think it'll it'll be good, but 0:48:19.320 --> 0:48:21.879 I'm not not super stoked for it. I mean I'm 0:48:22.239 --> 0:48:25.840 way more stoked for the poorer or Engagee and Pereira 0:48:25.920 --> 0:48:27.960 ring Gone. If that, if that, maybe that puts it 0:48:28.000 --> 0:48:30.680 in perspective. I think the guys that are current, that 0:48:30.719 --> 0:48:32.720 are constantly fighting, that's who I want to see. 0:48:33.120 --> 0:48:35.440 And you know, so then what then? 0:48:35.520 --> 0:48:38.640 Then what do you feel about Rousy versus Krano then 0:48:38.760 --> 0:48:42.360 compared to fucking Topuria and Podata? You know what I'm saying, right, 0:48:42.560 --> 0:48:45.160 Like you have to know. Well, that's what I'm saying though, 0:48:45.160 --> 0:48:45.440 but like. 0:48:45.440 --> 0:48:48.239 The same thing, yeah, same thing. I mean I was, 0:48:48.440 --> 0:48:49.040 I was happy. 0:48:49.120 --> 0:48:51.960 Look, so you're comparing Rowsy Corano to. 0:48:52.320 --> 0:48:55.359 No, definitely not. I'm not doing that. 0:48:55.520 --> 0:48:57.160 Okay, Well I'm not trying to be. 0:48:57.239 --> 0:49:00.440 I'm not Halloway. I love Holloway. Let's not. I know 0:49:00.560 --> 0:49:05.160 I'm saying no, no, no, I'm just saying, uh, it 0:49:05.280 --> 0:49:07.799 just looks like guys are grabbing money fights now, and 0:49:07.960 --> 0:49:10.640 you know, which is all good. That's why, like even 0:49:10.680 --> 0:49:14.040 Carono Resie, I'm happy. Everybody did good. I think everybody 0:49:14.080 --> 0:49:15.880 knew the way that fight was going. I mean, I 0:49:15.880 --> 0:49:18.400 don't even some people said it was a fix. I'm fixed. 0:49:18.640 --> 0:49:20.880 We were sitting in the boss saying exactly what was 0:49:20.920 --> 0:49:22.600 going to happen? Right, take him down? 0:49:22.840 --> 0:49:25.239 Alja people, I don't know the sport, but yeah, yeah, al. 0:49:25.320 --> 0:49:27.279 Aljoe had a hip tours to an arm bus. So 0:49:27.280 --> 0:49:29.160 I said, well, you were wrong. It was a double. 0:49:29.000 --> 0:49:32.400 Leg to a mount to an almo or whatever it was. 0:49:32.880 --> 0:49:36.880 But yeah, look, I'm happy for them. I'm happy for 0:49:36.920 --> 0:49:40.319 everybody on that card. I think the UFC does need competition, 0:49:40.440 --> 0:49:42.880 so I'm happy about that. I'm happy to see Poomy 0:49:42.960 --> 0:49:45.440 pick up a huge payday for a guy that only 0:49:45.440 --> 0:49:47.640 fought on the local circuits. To make one hundred and 0:49:47.719 --> 0:49:50.640 sixty grand, that's pretty nice, you know, for the kids. 0:49:50.640 --> 0:49:53.000 So I think that'll that'll help him out a lot. 0:49:53.400 --> 0:49:54.520 And uh, you. 0:49:54.480 --> 0:49:56.520 Know, I think most of the matches were put together 0:49:56.600 --> 0:49:59.720 to see exactly what we saw up guys get knocked 0:49:59.719 --> 0:50:02.719 out bad and for how to get submitted like that. 0:50:02.960 --> 0:50:05.319 See, I don't I don't think Connor. I don't think 0:50:05.360 --> 0:50:08.120 this is a money grab for Connor. I guess number 0:50:08.160 --> 0:50:11.840 one Connor doesn't need the money. He's his his second 0:50:11.880 --> 0:50:13.880 generation of kids are going to be all set. I 0:50:14.160 --> 0:50:18.680 think that for him, I genuinely believe that he thinks 0:50:18.719 --> 0:50:21.640 he's gonna come back and like, you know, make a run, 0:50:21.800 --> 0:50:22.239 like you know. 0:50:22.600 --> 0:50:23.840 Whether that's realistic or. 0:50:23.840 --> 0:50:25.720 Not, I don't know, but I think in his head 0:50:26.040 --> 0:50:28.399 that's actually what he thinks. I think he he wants 0:50:28.440 --> 0:50:31.040 to go out there. He wants to knock out Max Holloway, 0:50:31.280 --> 0:50:34.120 and then he wants some other big fight against I 0:50:34.120 --> 0:50:36.160 don't know who, but I think he wants I think 0:50:36.160 --> 0:50:38.200 he wants a big fight and he wants a challenge. 0:50:38.360 --> 0:50:39.680 That's what I genuinely think. 0:50:40.239 --> 0:50:43.040 Uh yeah, I don't know. I mean, look, Kenny, you 0:50:43.040 --> 0:50:46.560 know you've been around fight is. You know, nobody knows 0:50:46.560 --> 0:50:49.120 when it's time to get the fuck out, and uh, 0:50:49.440 --> 0:50:51.640 this is a big fight him in Holloway. That's a 0:50:51.680 --> 0:50:52.520 big name fight. 0:50:52.920 --> 0:50:54.080 He's a big dog. 0:50:55.040 --> 0:50:58.279 Yeah, I mean, I just I don't know. I don't 0:50:58.280 --> 0:50:58.799 I don't know. 0:50:59.600 --> 0:51:02.440 If I was a straight shill, of which I have 0:51:02.560 --> 0:51:05.919 been accused in the past, I certainly wouldn't have. Even 0:51:06.000 --> 0:51:08.680 before Dana White suggests that maybe I felt like the 0:51:08.680 --> 0:51:12.520 ship had sailed on McGregor versus Chandler right, they're trying 0:51:12.600 --> 0:51:16.440 to put forth a more consequential fight than that. Now 0:51:16.800 --> 0:51:21.520 Connor the way, yeah, right now, Connor would plausibly be 0:51:21.640 --> 0:51:25.280 favored against Michael Chandler here, he's a plus three ten underdog. 0:51:25.719 --> 0:51:28.160 I think what Kenny and I are just talking about, 0:51:28.320 --> 0:51:31.879 and this is not me schilling. Yeah, we believe there's 0:51:31.880 --> 0:51:34.920 a competitive spirit there that is leading the dance when 0:51:34.960 --> 0:51:37.520 it comes to his return. And even if his own 0:51:38.520 --> 0:51:42.120 dreams about what this return could be maybe sound aspirational 0:51:42.120 --> 0:51:44.760 to us, if he thinks about like Islam, Makashev or something, 0:51:45.200 --> 0:51:47.719 I don't think it's out of the realm of possibility 0:51:47.760 --> 0:51:51.160 that he performs very well against Max and potentially gets 0:51:51.160 --> 0:51:54.320 a knockout. And I don't think he should be plus 0:51:54.360 --> 0:51:58.000 three ten. So I don't know, But you know, your 0:51:58.120 --> 0:52:01.280 lack of enthusiasm, I'm not gonna let it necessarily curb mind. 0:52:01.360 --> 0:52:02.319 But I don't know. 0:52:02.400 --> 0:52:05.279 I mean, you know, no, he's the people love that guy. Look, 0:52:05.360 --> 0:52:08.279 Connor is a fighter. He handles him. I always thought 0:52:08.280 --> 0:52:12.040 he handled himself beautifully in victory and in defeat. Like again, 0:52:12.160 --> 0:52:17.080 his trash talking is second to none. I mean, do 0:52:17.160 --> 0:52:19.720 you think he'll sell this fight? Like he sold fights 0:52:19.760 --> 0:52:20.760 in the past. 0:52:22.320 --> 0:52:25.239 Well, I think the sales pitch is really that the 0:52:25.280 --> 0:52:28.280 man who did more to build the sport than anyone 0:52:28.320 --> 0:52:30.520 next to Dana White is back for the first time 0:52:30.560 --> 0:52:32.279 in five years. I mean, I don't know that there's 0:52:32.320 --> 0:52:35.680 any bad blood. Cody's suggesting he already is building the 0:52:35.680 --> 0:52:37.960 fight Kenny. I don't know how promotionally he's going to 0:52:38.760 --> 0:52:40.320 attack or not attack Max. 0:52:41.000 --> 0:52:42.879 I think Max is a hard guy to attack because 0:52:42.920 --> 0:52:45.000 he's such a freaking nice guy. 0:52:45.080 --> 0:52:45.719 So he's the man. 0:52:45.840 --> 0:52:48.040 Yeah, yeah, he is the man with that. So yeah, 0:52:48.120 --> 0:52:50.040 but look, I hope he comes back and does great 0:52:50.080 --> 0:52:54.680 and exactly what you say. But you know, you know, Kenny, 0:52:54.719 --> 0:52:58.600 as you get older, I mean your brain, Like sometimes 0:52:58.600 --> 0:53:00.239 I look at shit and the guy do that he's 0:53:00.440 --> 0:53:03.040 I can't even come close. Like it's just like your 0:53:03.080 --> 0:53:05.040 brain is definitely going to tell you could do things 0:53:05.040 --> 0:53:07.600 that your body can back up. And I don't know 0:53:07.600 --> 0:53:10.920 if he's at that point, but I'm saying like, based 0:53:10.960 --> 0:53:13.000 on whatever we've been watching, that guy has done a 0:53:13.040 --> 0:53:15.200 lot of damage to your to his body, and I 0:53:15.280 --> 0:53:18.279 know the body is resilient, but dude, that's a lot 0:53:18.320 --> 0:53:22.200 of drinking and drugging man like, God bless him, God 0:53:22.239 --> 0:53:24.520 bless him. He'd come back and do it. God bless him, 0:53:24.560 --> 0:53:26.319 because then he's a special guy. 0:53:27.239 --> 0:53:28.520 Yeah, well, I think that. 0:53:29.280 --> 0:53:32.120 I certainly saw that in some of the fights this weekend, 0:53:32.120 --> 0:53:34.560 where you know, Junior Desantus, I could tell he was 0:53:34.719 --> 0:53:38.239 trying to do certain things. Potty just would not let 0:53:38.360 --> 0:53:40.960 him write. I don't think Connor is at that point 0:53:41.640 --> 0:53:45.640 at all. I think that you know, he's gonna find out, 0:53:45.680 --> 0:53:48.200 and I think his coaches, I would love to think, 0:53:48.280 --> 0:53:51.919 would would know and be smart enough to say, all right, hey, listen, man, 0:53:52.000 --> 0:53:53.480 this training thing it's not working out. 0:53:53.520 --> 0:53:55.680 You look like crap. We got to cancel the fight. Er, 0:53:55.760 --> 0:53:56.720 I don't think you're ready. 0:53:57.000 --> 0:53:59.319 I think he's been building up for a while in 0:53:59.360 --> 0:54:03.120 training and saying, hey, he's looking good. Yeah, let's take 0:54:03.120 --> 0:54:05.640 the Max Holloway fight. I think they'd be foolish just 0:54:05.680 --> 0:54:09.400 to take any fight. And I think it makes sense, 0:54:09.640 --> 0:54:12.120 you know, given what Max Holloway did you know or 0:54:12.160 --> 0:54:14.480 has done the last few fights. I think it's a 0:54:15.040 --> 0:54:18.680 patch that does make sense, and I think we'll get 0:54:18.719 --> 0:54:20.880 a good gauge of how he performs here. It's like 0:54:21.120 --> 0:54:22.920 if he goes out there and like John says, like 0:54:23.600 --> 0:54:26.439 gets a knockout. Hey, maybe he is back and maybe 0:54:26.440 --> 0:54:28.400 he is a legitimate threat to some of the elite 0:54:28.400 --> 0:54:30.719 in the division. So I think it remains to be seen. 0:54:30.760 --> 0:54:33.760 I think we will get a better read on things 0:54:33.760 --> 0:54:35.840 in the next you know what month or so, whenever 0:54:35.880 --> 0:54:36.440 that fight is. 0:54:36.480 --> 0:54:38.760 And yeah, yeah. 0:54:38.760 --> 0:54:41.640 Listen, look, look, first of if I'm happy for both guys, 0:54:41.640 --> 0:54:44.680 I'm just asking my enthusia about like I can't wait 0:54:44.719 --> 0:54:47.640 like this fights, I can't wait to see. Yeah, this 0:54:47.680 --> 0:54:50.000 one isn't one of them, but I hope they both 0:54:50.520 --> 0:54:53.239 performed great. And there's a big difference between looking good 0:54:53.239 --> 0:54:56.000 in the gym and going through that Ouctor gutten door 0:54:56.040 --> 0:54:59.240 and doing it. I'll give you a perfect gym, Anthony Smith. 0:54:59.719 --> 0:55:02.920 This is recent within a couple of years farming what 0:55:02.920 --> 0:55:05.320 Wideman said. I don't know how this motherfucker River loses 0:55:05.360 --> 0:55:08.560 a fight like he was Whiteman, still gonna crush you 0:55:08.640 --> 0:55:11.880 in the gym, but performing under the lights is different. 0:55:12.000 --> 0:55:15.120 His anxiety. There's other stuff involved. But and it's not 0:55:15.160 --> 0:55:18.040 a knock but like what you know, when I was 0:55:18.080 --> 0:55:21.240 with Chris and the gym, like nobody's taking nobody's running 0:55:21.239 --> 0:55:23.719 through the guy. He looks he looks great, but there's 0:55:23.760 --> 0:55:25.799 a lot. Then you make that weight cut you're not 0:55:25.960 --> 0:55:28.520 used to. You haven't done that in years. It's suck. 0:55:28.719 --> 0:55:29.760 What's what's the weight. 0:55:31.040 --> 0:55:31.640 Is also good? 0:55:32.920 --> 0:55:34.799 That helps him out. So Max is right that once. 0:55:36.200 --> 0:55:38.239 Well, Max is a big boy with a big frame, 0:55:38.360 --> 0:55:40.080 and he said to me, I think seven or eight 0:55:40.160 --> 0:55:41.799 years ago, that he wanted to take a fight at 0:55:41.800 --> 0:55:44.040 middleweight before his UFC career was said and done. But 0:55:44.480 --> 0:55:48.799 I think if Connor McGregor's preparation was being documented as 0:55:48.880 --> 0:55:51.960 if it was this otherworldly, you know, like bj Pen 0:55:52.040 --> 0:55:55.399 training for Kenny Florian type preparation, everybody'd be like, oh man, 0:55:55.560 --> 0:55:55.839 you know. 0:55:58.040 --> 0:56:01.480 Ten right that that would get me excited, right, So 0:56:02.600 --> 0:56:05.600 that's yeah, yeah, yeah, you're risking me now. And I'm 0:56:05.640 --> 0:56:08.520 just saying, uh, you know, I really didn't think about it. 0:56:08.560 --> 0:56:11.279 They just got announced. But it's not I didn't jump 0:56:11.360 --> 0:56:12.000 out of my chair. 0:56:12.320 --> 0:56:13.520 No, I'm not trying to. 0:56:13.760 --> 0:56:16.279 But you're you're right though. They start doing that and 0:56:16.280 --> 0:56:18.080 they get that guy going, I bet you I'm right 0:56:18.120 --> 0:56:20.239 in there with him. I'm just it's too early for me. 0:56:20.280 --> 0:56:21.279 Maybe that's the best way to. 0:56:21.360 --> 0:56:23.160 But I'm gonna get a T shirt printed that says 0:56:23.200 --> 0:56:27.040 Bounts of Consequence right as an MMA fan, Ultimately, Arnold 0:56:27.080 --> 0:56:32.000 Allen versus Melchaziel Costa in a tough division right at lead, 0:56:32.080 --> 0:56:34.840 that is a hugely important fight in terms of just 0:56:34.920 --> 0:56:38.480 straight bracket competition championship stakes. 0:56:38.560 --> 0:56:38.719 Right. 0:56:39.200 --> 0:56:41.120 You know, It's not like Connor McGregor's gonna beat Max 0:56:41.160 --> 0:56:43.680 Holloway and get on a mic and be like, where's 0:56:43.719 --> 0:56:47.640 that Ecuadorian Michael Morales? You know, if I'm gonna get 0:56:47.640 --> 0:56:50.359 a title fight, I need to fight Morales or let 0:56:50.360 --> 0:56:52.560 me fight Carlos Protest earn my title fight. 0:56:52.640 --> 0:56:54.920 No, you know, yeah, it's. 0:56:54.760 --> 0:56:58.200 A fair matchup. Yeah, and I like it. I like 0:56:58.239 --> 0:57:01.000 it as an ancill everything. But I like to see 0:57:01.000 --> 0:57:04.239 the big fights with consequences now, you know for me. 0:57:04.320 --> 0:57:07.360 Yeah, And you know, when I'm making the comparison to 0:57:07.160 --> 0:57:10.040 the to the Corono Rowsey thing, I think there's there's 0:57:10.040 --> 0:57:12.239 two separate things that we're talking about here, right, There's 0:57:12.320 --> 0:57:15.840 like big names and then there's like big name fights, 0:57:15.880 --> 0:57:18.840 and then there's like quality matchups of where they're both 0:57:18.920 --> 0:57:21.520 at in their careers, and I think those are different. 0:57:21.560 --> 0:57:23.919 Then people can be excited about the names, and people 0:57:23.920 --> 0:57:25.760 can be excited about the matchups, or people could be 0:57:25.800 --> 0:57:27.600 excited about both of those things. 0:57:27.640 --> 0:57:30.520 And I guess that was my kind of competitive I. 0:57:30.560 --> 0:57:33.120 Was at a people were watching, you know, that's that's 0:57:33.120 --> 0:57:33.840 for damn sure. 0:57:34.360 --> 0:57:39.520 And I wasn't trying to be interrogative or at all. No, no, no, 0:57:39.720 --> 0:57:43.760 I guess I just like when Connor McGregor he fought 0:57:43.760 --> 0:57:46.000 Donald Troni early twenty twenty and then was off for 0:57:46.000 --> 0:57:49.800 a year, and then he fought twenty twenty one two 0:57:49.920 --> 0:57:53.200 times and was getting in an active competition cycle, a 0:57:53.240 --> 0:57:55.240 cycle that a lot of people suggested he would never 0:57:55.280 --> 0:57:58.000 get back in because of silk sheets. There was enough 0:57:58.080 --> 0:58:01.360 money to not and he wanted to be back, and 0:58:01.400 --> 0:58:03.720 then he broke his leg and one thing led to 0:58:03.760 --> 0:58:07.280 another and a two year delay became four and now five. 0:58:07.440 --> 0:58:09.000 But I don't think it's at all out of the 0:58:09.040 --> 0:58:11.440 room possibility that you see Connor McGregor here and if 0:58:11.440 --> 0:58:14.240 something good or bad happens, right, I mean what he 0:58:14.280 --> 0:58:16.640 lost to Dustin Pourrier and then turned it right back around, 0:58:16.680 --> 0:58:19.520 Like I feel like, yeah, he got knocked out and 0:58:19.520 --> 0:58:21.720 then turned it right back around. I think this dude's 0:58:21.720 --> 0:58:24.600 trying to fight a couple times, potentially in twenty twenty six. 0:58:24.760 --> 0:58:26.920 Now, how old is Conna? Now? How old is Conna? 0:58:27.120 --> 0:58:29.240 I think he's thirty six? 0:58:29.360 --> 0:58:32.080 Maybe Code, can you look at that up? Yeah? 0:58:32.480 --> 0:58:36.240 Maybe he's thirty seven anyway, very interesting. 0:58:38.160 --> 0:58:42.240 Thirty thirty seven, thirty seven, thirty seven years of age. 0:58:42.480 --> 0:58:43.480 He'll be thirty eight. 0:58:43.600 --> 0:58:45.880 So yeah, man, is that the landline? 0:58:45.960 --> 0:58:46.160 Ray? 0:58:46.840 --> 0:58:48.040 Holy crap? 0:58:48.240 --> 0:58:48.440 Is that? 0:58:48.480 --> 0:58:49.040 What that is? 0:58:50.320 --> 0:58:52.880 This? What are you a fucking rottweiler? 0:58:54.120 --> 0:58:54.200 Is? 0:58:54.240 --> 0:58:57.360 Does this guy have? Holy shit? Can they come over 0:58:57.400 --> 0:58:59.480 he and just protect my house? When you hear something 0:58:59.480 --> 0:59:03.160 outside like somebody stepping on a twig? So havn't it? 0:59:03.560 --> 0:59:05.640 It could also be that you're going deaf, my man. 0:59:05.800 --> 0:59:10.160 It could be Oh yeah, Kenny, there's no question about that. 0:59:10.680 --> 0:59:13.200 But nothing's getting better, Kenny, if that's what you want 0:59:13.200 --> 0:59:14.760 to know, Nothing is getting better. 0:59:18.000 --> 0:59:20.680 I think the difference is that Kenny is nicer than 0:59:20.720 --> 0:59:21.040 I am. 0:59:22.880 --> 0:59:23.880 That's pretty obvious. 0:59:24.560 --> 0:59:28.200 Yes, yes, yeah, my twin brother nicer than me. Everybody 0:59:28.240 --> 0:59:35.880 nicer than Kenny though, right, Like your cell phone beeps 0:59:35.880 --> 0:59:40.520 and you know, Kennedy good landline, Kenny, lets it go 0:59:40.680 --> 0:59:41.200 your dog? 0:59:42.920 --> 0:59:45.200 I think I think me and Kenny a guy. Don't 0:59:45.240 --> 0:59:48.400 sweat the small stuff. You're just you're sweating over. 0:59:48.240 --> 0:59:50.760 Every Yes, I thought you were gonna say me and 0:59:50.840 --> 0:59:55.640 Kenny are guys, guys which would also fighters, fighters or whatever, right, 0:59:55.640 --> 0:59:58.480 but yeah, I guess I do sweat the small stuff. 0:59:58.680 --> 1:00:01.960 And anybody else who sweats the product. Yes, Cody, we 1:00:01.960 --> 1:00:04.640 sweat the product. Look with the producers throwing you under 1:00:04.640 --> 1:00:06.240 the bus now he says, we sweat the product. 1:00:06.320 --> 1:00:07.440 So he doesn't like your phone. 1:00:08.000 --> 1:00:08.520 There you go. 1:00:08.760 --> 1:00:10.880 But anybody who wants to chime in, and the comments 1:00:10.880 --> 1:00:13.720 on YouTube that, uh, they appreciate me getting ahead of 1:00:13.720 --> 1:00:14.320 this phone stuff. 1:00:14.360 --> 1:00:15.480 I'd love to hear from you folk. 1:00:15.600 --> 1:00:18.800 Yeah, uh, men and men come out and support me. Please, 1:00:18.960 --> 1:00:19.360 thank you. 1:00:20.880 --> 1:00:22.920 I think our time with you is done unless you 1:00:22.920 --> 1:00:23.720 have anything else. 1:00:23.960 --> 1:00:27.600 One thing. Yeah, great night of fights locally? Is want 1:00:27.640 --> 1:00:31.000 to say that we had a clean sweep of seven people? 1:00:31.400 --> 1:00:34.240 Nice? So did you fix the matchups to go seven 1:00:34.280 --> 1:00:34.480 and oh? 1:00:34.560 --> 1:00:38.240 I mean yeah, a couple of them, but that from 1:00:38.240 --> 1:00:42.840 a local show, no, okay? Right? Yeah? 1:00:43.920 --> 1:00:44.720 Well R J. 1:00:44.920 --> 1:00:50.800 Clifford never was the beneficiary beneficiary of subject matchmaking like that, 1:00:50.840 --> 1:00:56.120 you know, and he still wants some fights raight, So 1:00:56.160 --> 1:00:57.760 seven and oh what was the highlight of the seven 1:00:57.760 --> 1:00:58.880 and oh before we getitar get, I. 1:00:58.880 --> 1:01:00.760 Gotta tell you we had a kid, uh kind of 1:01:00.960 --> 1:01:04.440 Conna Brendan. He's a nineteen twenty year old kid. He's 1:01:04.480 --> 1:01:06.760 got such a bright future. Man. He took on a 1:01:06.800 --> 1:01:10.040 man like he fought the man. He just really broke 1:01:10.120 --> 1:01:14.479 that guy down. That's off to everybody. Danielle how first 1:01:14.520 --> 1:01:18.880 fight she did fantastic. Uh, I'm gonna leave somebody out. Lewis, 1:01:19.600 --> 1:01:26.800 Uh did great. Joe Casey, Yeah, fucking Joey yay, Joey 1:01:27.560 --> 1:01:32.200 straight down the middle, right hand, flatten the guy. Great 1:01:32.560 --> 1:01:36.200 Joe title, great title, won the title. I'm gonna forget somebody. 1:01:36.200 --> 1:01:38.800 I mean it's gonna kill me. Yeah. Lord Roch had 1:01:38.840 --> 1:01:42.320 a great fight. She actually uh, they gave it like 1:01:42.360 --> 1:01:45.120 a majority split decision, but she definitely won the fight. 1:01:45.840 --> 1:01:48.200 Well, maybe next time you can have your man Steve 1:01:48.280 --> 1:01:51.320 Lee just right down the winners and provide surnames as well. 1:01:51.720 --> 1:01:53.720 Witness. But wait, whole day, leave anybody. 1:01:53.920 --> 1:01:56.280 Yeah, you're training with long everybody wins. Hey, happy birthday? 1:01:56.280 --> 1:01:57.000 When's your birthday? 1:01:58.680 --> 1:02:00.280 Unfortunately one's day. 1:02:01.040 --> 1:02:05.000 Let's go May twentieth, May twentie, Yes, we got Cody 1:02:05.040 --> 1:02:08.240 May fifteenth. We got you made ros Buffer May twenty first, 1:02:08.240 --> 1:02:10.640 and you know what happens next Tuesday, May twenty sixth. 1:02:11.320 --> 1:02:14.960 No fucking fifty burger for ken flow fifty. 1:02:15.120 --> 1:02:20.000 No, no way, Kendots, Is that true? You look? 1:02:21.480 --> 1:02:22.280 Yes, you look? 1:02:22.400 --> 1:02:27.919 You look amazing. You look amazing, young, young, and hot. 1:02:28.000 --> 1:02:30.600 That's how old there we go Wednesday? How old are 1:02:30.600 --> 1:02:33.320 you going to be on Wednesday? I'm not telling you, okay, 1:02:36.120 --> 1:02:37.160 uh sixty three? 1:02:37.680 --> 1:02:38.320 Sixty eight? 1:02:39.800 --> 1:02:43.120 Jeez, I mean, my gosh, not a rink your eyes? 1:02:43.160 --> 1:02:48.400 I mean, do you get botox? Geez hey, thank you 1:02:48.400 --> 1:02:48.840 for your time. 1:02:48.880 --> 1:02:51.320 I love you. I didn't mean to come across as antagonistic, but. 1:02:52.960 --> 1:02:56.280 John, that's a true sign of love. What's the matter 1:02:56.360 --> 1:02:57.920 with you? I love you. 1:02:57.960 --> 1:02:59.560 Happy sixty eighth birthday? 1:03:00.120 --> 1:03:02.080 Right, happy burden there bro take it man, take it 1:03:02.080 --> 1:03:05.160 easy by very long co minute. 1:03:05.200 --> 1:03:08.320 Every week on the Anticaplorian podcast, we now go three 1:03:08.320 --> 1:03:11.520 wide and welcome in or other recurring guests. And he 1:03:11.600 --> 1:03:12.520 is so much more than that. 1:03:12.760 --> 1:03:13.360 Rated r J. 1:03:14.080 --> 1:03:16.280 R J. Clifford is with us live from the Pacific 1:03:16.360 --> 1:03:18.920 coast of the United States of America. 1:03:19.520 --> 1:03:21.240 RJ front and center. Good to see a handsome how 1:03:21.240 --> 1:03:21.560 are you doing? 1:03:22.600 --> 1:03:25.640 I almost don't want to interrupt. That was so fun 1:03:25.960 --> 1:03:27.440 just listening to you three. 1:03:27.600 --> 1:03:28.360 How how many? 1:03:28.560 --> 1:03:29.000 Just question? 1:03:29.120 --> 1:03:31.520 How many shows do I have to be on before 1:03:31.560 --> 1:03:32.680 I get a trip to Turkey? 1:03:32.760 --> 1:03:36.320 Sponsor shows? Do I have to do? 1:03:36.360 --> 1:03:36.400 To? 1:03:37.120 --> 1:03:37.320 Man? 1:03:38.280 --> 1:03:42.320 These Clifford jeans aren't aren't hanging up like they should? 1:03:42.520 --> 1:03:45.360 You know, let me get at let me get a 1:03:45.360 --> 1:03:47.440 little serious on YOUA. Do you really want to go 1:03:47.480 --> 1:03:49.600 to Turkey and have a hair transplant? Is that something 1:03:49.600 --> 1:03:50.480 you're desirous of? 1:03:53.360 --> 1:03:54.360 Do you think I need one? 1:03:54.600 --> 1:03:54.760 No? 1:03:54.840 --> 1:03:57.960 I think I have a full head. I shave my head. 1:03:57.960 --> 1:03:58.920 I think men should shave there. 1:03:59.000 --> 1:04:01.080 I just can't be the this guy on this show 1:04:01.120 --> 1:04:02.280 and have the least amount of hair. 1:04:02.320 --> 1:04:03.240 I think that's bullshit. 1:04:04.160 --> 1:04:06.440 All right, Well be the case, because I do believe 1:04:06.440 --> 1:04:09.440 that there are sponsorship opportunities for people in mixed body 1:04:09.960 --> 1:04:12.600 transplants if they desire, or you could go to Ken 1:04:12.640 --> 1:04:15.280 Flow's place and you know, not even have to shave 1:04:15.320 --> 1:04:15.600 your head. 1:04:15.600 --> 1:04:16.520 There are options out there. 1:04:16.560 --> 1:04:18.200 I just feel like guys should shave their head and 1:04:18.400 --> 1:04:20.080 thereby look exponentially tougher. 1:04:20.240 --> 1:04:22.200 All right, so much to get dude? 1:04:22.240 --> 1:04:27.040 How about Ken Flow turning fucking fifty fifty can't but 1:04:27.880 --> 1:04:32.360 leave it? Yeah, I mean obviously there's a lot of 1:04:32.400 --> 1:04:34.760 complimenting of his looks on this show, not even on 1:04:34.880 --> 1:04:37.600 weeks in which he doesn't turn fifty, right, but like, 1:04:37.680 --> 1:04:39.720 let's not bury the dude, Like, dude, like I'm gonna 1:04:39.720 --> 1:04:42.160 be like when I'm about to be fifty, I'm gonna 1:04:42.160 --> 1:04:42.560 be pissed. 1:04:43.400 --> 1:04:45.440 How have you thought of how you're gonna say it? 1:04:45.480 --> 1:04:48.439 You're like half century? Does that sound like less than 1:04:48.480 --> 1:04:51.400 five decades? Have you like done like how many days 1:04:51.440 --> 1:04:52.960 that is? Like have you figured out what's like? 1:04:53.000 --> 1:04:54.160 The both are bad? 1:04:54.560 --> 1:04:57.200 I think half a century is pretty crazy, you know, 1:04:57.480 --> 1:04:59.280 just yeah, even just telling people like yeah, I was 1:04:59.280 --> 1:05:00.960 born in the nineteen hundreds, Like. 1:05:03.320 --> 1:05:05.960 I mean, I'll be happy when I'm forty nine, right 1:05:06.000 --> 1:05:09.040 that whole year be like I'm forty nine, forty nine? 1:05:09.360 --> 1:05:10.160 What's your fifty? Y? 1:05:10.400 --> 1:05:12.560 Like his whole energy changed off the top of the 1:05:12.560 --> 1:05:18.600 show when I. 1:05:13.640 --> 1:05:16.720 Yeah, I hear you. 1:05:16.720 --> 1:05:18.880 You know, like you're gonna have people asking, like you 1:05:18.880 --> 1:05:20.880 know which side on the north of the south? 1:05:21.200 --> 1:05:23.480 You know, when you start saying exactly. 1:05:23.720 --> 1:05:27.920 Half you must have been something before electricity? 1:05:27.880 --> 1:05:34.600 Yeah, all right, what a weekend appreciates r. J. Clifford 1:05:34.600 --> 1:05:37.080 providing some show notes, a lot of different directions in 1:05:37.160 --> 1:05:40.919 which we could go. So Ronda Rousey gets it done 1:05:40.920 --> 1:05:44.480 in seventeen seconds, and my MMA fanaticism is such that 1:05:44.560 --> 1:05:47.720 I immediately think, not Kayla Harrison, Amanda noon Is. But like, 1:05:47.760 --> 1:05:50.360 could she be competitive with the Norman Dumonts of the 1:05:50.400 --> 1:05:52.000 world in twenty twenty six? 1:05:52.840 --> 1:05:55.720 Well, I mean, and Composa put it perfectly on Twitter, 1:05:55.800 --> 1:05:58.640 like there's fighters in the top ten that are still 1:05:58.680 --> 1:06:01.880 around from the Ronda Rousey era, like she was still 1:06:02.240 --> 1:06:04.440 you know, there's fighters from when she was fighting that 1:06:04.520 --> 1:06:07.640 are currently ranked. So like you, like you said earlier, 1:06:07.680 --> 1:06:10.280 like Gina Carano could not have handed that win any 1:06:10.400 --> 1:06:12.680 easier to Ronda. So it's not like a great place 1:06:12.720 --> 1:06:14.960 to kind of gauge if she's in, Like you were 1:06:15.000 --> 1:06:16.840 tuning in to Ronda Rousey versus Gina Rona to see 1:06:16.840 --> 1:06:18.480 what they've been working on for the last seventeen years. 1:06:18.520 --> 1:06:19.640 Like he was really disappointed. 1:06:19.880 --> 1:06:22.120 It was, you know, it was vintage Ronda and and 1:06:22.160 --> 1:06:23.680 kind of vintage Gina in a lot of ways. 1:06:24.520 --> 1:06:25.640 But yeah, man, like. 1:06:27.240 --> 1:06:29.560 Of all the weight classes in mixed martial arts, women's 1:06:29.560 --> 1:06:32.600 bandam weight not exactly the Pacific Ocean of depth, and 1:06:32.760 --> 1:06:37.760 Ronda looked physically fantastic. Did you guys notice Kenny at all? 1:06:37.840 --> 1:06:40.240 Like she has like a kind of a weird stance, 1:06:40.320 --> 1:06:42.160 like was there like a limp. I don't know, I 1:06:42.200 --> 1:06:43.680 don't know if there's like maybe something going on with 1:06:43.920 --> 1:06:44.960 Da Ronda. 1:06:45.040 --> 1:06:47.800 Yeah, so yeah, Ronda had an ankle injury leading up 1:06:47.800 --> 1:06:50.240 to the fight. Apparently I didn't know until after the fight, 1:06:50.360 --> 1:06:53.960 but yeah, it was. It was definitely apparent like something 1:06:54.040 --> 1:06:55.680 was off. I couldn't tell if it was just a 1:06:55.720 --> 1:06:58.640 different kind of walk. But yeah, Because maybe this is 1:06:58.680 --> 1:07:00.280 a silly question, Sorry, go ahead. 1:07:00.480 --> 1:07:02.360 No, No, I'm just saying, like, when you you know, 1:07:02.400 --> 1:07:04.800 she's not fifty, but she's almost forty, when you you 1:07:04.840 --> 1:07:06.960 start getting like kind of chronic issues at that point, right, 1:07:07.000 --> 1:07:08.400 So that's what I was wondering. 1:07:08.520 --> 1:07:10.160 Was it like a chronic hip issue or is it Oh, 1:07:10.200 --> 1:07:11.040 she rolled her ankle. 1:07:11.480 --> 1:07:15.400 You know, I threw my back out with this with 1:07:15.440 --> 1:07:17.280 a sneeze the other day and I'm forty two, So 1:07:17.720 --> 1:07:18.040 I don't know. 1:07:18.200 --> 1:07:20.600 I don't know any high level grapplers who don't have 1:07:20.800 --> 1:07:23.120 something wrong with them or a variety of things wrong 1:07:23.160 --> 1:07:25.760 with them. But you know, maybe this is a silly question, 1:07:25.840 --> 1:07:28.040 but what were your expectations heading into this? Was this 1:07:28.080 --> 1:07:30.840 pretty much the way you saw it? And and what 1:07:30.880 --> 1:07:32.840 are your thoughts there? Those are like, yeah, that that 1:07:33.000 --> 1:07:34.680 was a fix. It's like you guys haven't seen a 1:07:34.720 --> 1:07:35.200 Rhonda fight. 1:07:35.240 --> 1:07:38.920 It seems yeah, uh that minus two thirty under. 1:07:41.320 --> 1:07:44.800 Round in a half or Randa buy arm bar. 1:07:44.880 --> 1:07:48.440 I mean, like right, like it was pretty standard operating procedure, right, 1:07:48.480 --> 1:07:55.960 I mean I don't I don't think Ronda is interested 1:07:56.200 --> 1:07:59.440 in competitive matchups, and I think this Geno fight was 1:07:59.480 --> 1:08:00.280 kind of what she wanted. 1:08:00.360 --> 1:08:01.080 It made sense. 1:08:01.280 --> 1:08:04.960 It was a high profile you know, I want to 1:08:05.040 --> 1:08:07.120 let my mind wander like John and be like man 1:08:07.200 --> 1:08:11.320 her like her versus Holly Home to her versus Cyborg 1:08:11.440 --> 1:08:14.000 like whoa Like that's talk about some like outside of 1:08:14.040 --> 1:08:15.360 the UFC awesome matchups. 1:08:15.360 --> 1:08:16.000 But I don't think. 1:08:16.240 --> 1:08:19.200 I mean, Rondo avoided Cyborg when she was enterprime, you know, 1:08:19.280 --> 1:08:20.840 and now that she's like, you know, wanted to have 1:08:20.880 --> 1:08:23.519 a family. And I don't know, Kenny, you you you 1:08:23.600 --> 1:08:26.719 around that far more than me does. Does Ronda feel 1:08:26.760 --> 1:08:29.240 like she's gonna keep doing this? Or is this kind 1:08:29.280 --> 1:08:30.639 of just a nice quick babay. 1:08:31.200 --> 1:08:34.360 Yeah, I think this was kind of some closure from 1:08:34.400 --> 1:08:36.960 her last exit from the sport. I think this was 1:08:37.040 --> 1:08:39.080 kind of a fight that she wanted to put together 1:08:39.479 --> 1:08:41.679 just because of the nostalgia I think of the event. 1:08:42.360 --> 1:08:44.479 But yeah, I don't think she's going to fight again. 1:08:44.520 --> 1:08:46.240 And I think I believe her when she says she 1:08:46.280 --> 1:08:50.920 wants to go and make babies and yeah, but what 1:08:51.000 --> 1:08:52.080 are what are the fights? 1:08:52.160 --> 1:08:52.280 Uh? 1:08:52.320 --> 1:08:55.320 Did you find interesting that night on the MVP cord? 1:08:55.400 --> 1:08:59.280 Did you see the morays? Uh Pumi Tokuda fight and 1:08:59.280 --> 1:09:01.120 and the controversy here around that we've. 1:09:00.960 --> 1:09:04.639 Been Yeah, I'll and I'll stream it from the rooftops forever. 1:09:04.760 --> 1:09:07.320 I mean, you know athletic commissions that people call for 1:09:07.560 --> 1:09:10.200 just you know, breaking them down and fire everybody, Like, 1:09:10.240 --> 1:09:13.400 how about just a five minute presser after an event? 1:09:13.760 --> 1:09:14.400 How about just that? 1:09:14.439 --> 1:09:17.600 How about just that smidge of transparency. 1:09:17.840 --> 1:09:19.280 I don't think that's too much to ask, right, And 1:09:19.320 --> 1:09:21.560 if someone's gonna do it, it's the California Athletic. 1:09:21.280 --> 1:09:23.800 Commission with Andy Foster is one of the most fortificking commissioners. 1:09:24.120 --> 1:09:26.600 They have no motivation to do it. They you know, 1:09:26.840 --> 1:09:28.960 working in secrecy, is a great way to work. I 1:09:28.960 --> 1:09:31.160 wish I could do that myself, but I don't think 1:09:31.160 --> 1:09:33.400 it's a crazy ask. And I think that's I think 1:09:33.439 --> 1:09:36.880 that's a small step, but a giant step of. 1:09:36.880 --> 1:09:39.080 Just hey, Herb, what did you see? 1:09:39.200 --> 1:09:41.639 Yeah, I've people looked at the replay and you decided 1:09:41.680 --> 1:09:43.960 to go with submission at four fifty nine. 1:09:45.240 --> 1:09:47.360 Explain, please let us like put them in front of 1:09:47.400 --> 1:09:48.120 some journalists. 1:09:48.280 --> 1:09:50.800 Explain what you saw, give us your reasoning, and then 1:09:50.800 --> 1:09:52.600 at least we'll have that right, at least explain to 1:09:52.640 --> 1:09:55.400 what's what's going on as opposed to just all right, 1:09:55.439 --> 1:09:57.680 we're just asking questions and because like I know, they 1:09:57.680 --> 1:09:58.479 have no reason to. 1:09:58.560 --> 1:10:02.040 But it would just be so big, guys, it would 1:10:02.080 --> 1:10:02.719 be huge. 1:10:04.360 --> 1:10:06.960 Well, I think they do because it gives clarity to 1:10:07.000 --> 1:10:08.880 the fans who are watching it and be like, you know, 1:10:09.360 --> 1:10:10.240 what's going on here? 1:10:10.240 --> 1:10:11.479 How are you guys thinking about this? 1:10:11.520 --> 1:10:14.400 And I think it gets more importantly, perhaps gives clarity 1:10:14.439 --> 1:10:17.200 to the fighters themselves about like what's going on in 1:10:17.200 --> 1:10:20.559 this sport that they're participating in and risking their careers 1:10:20.560 --> 1:10:21.200 and lives for. 1:10:21.400 --> 1:10:24.680 Right, I mean, well, Cody saying Herb's gonna love you, 1:10:25.040 --> 1:10:27.320 Ary l hel Wani later today, and if anyone's gonna 1:10:27.320 --> 1:10:30.400 push him on that four fifty nine garbage, it's probably him, 1:10:30.439 --> 1:10:32.240 So that's a good thing. But the four fifty nine 1:10:32.360 --> 1:10:36.439 just makes no sense. So yeah, it's really interesting. And 1:10:36.439 --> 1:10:38.920 perhaps it is fruitless for me to even wander with 1:10:39.000 --> 1:10:41.320 my mind about Ronda Rousey because she isn't going to 1:10:41.320 --> 1:10:45.320 return to competition, but it is sort of, uh, you know, 1:10:45.400 --> 1:10:47.000 something that you do when we spend it for but 1:10:47.040 --> 1:10:49.439 probably fruitless there. So I do want to get to 1:10:49.560 --> 1:10:52.360 this capsule lock if I could. As two guys who 1:10:52.680 --> 1:10:55.920 know a thing or two about jiu jitsu, I don't 1:10:55.920 --> 1:10:57.679 want to sit here in all my ignorance and say 1:10:57.680 --> 1:10:59.759 I still don't fucking get it. But I have watched 1:10:59.800 --> 1:11:02.600 it twenty five times and I don't profess to have 1:11:02.640 --> 1:11:05.240 a bunch of clarity. So Kenny, I'll start with you, 1:11:05.320 --> 1:11:08.400 and then you can pass the baton unless ardel Yon 1:11:08.640 --> 1:11:13.080 gets it done by capsule lock submission. And this had 1:11:13.080 --> 1:11:14.280 never happened before in the UFC. 1:11:15.560 --> 1:11:19.759 Yeah, so you know, her opponent had got the body 1:11:19.840 --> 1:11:23.160 triangle from guard on her back, and a lot of 1:11:23.160 --> 1:11:26.720 times fighters have the wrong instinct of going, well, how 1:11:26.720 --> 1:11:27.400 can I make. 1:11:27.280 --> 1:11:30.160 This even tighter. Oh, I see her leg there. 1:11:30.240 --> 1:11:32.240 Let me let me tie my ankle in there and 1:11:32.280 --> 1:11:35.599 that will make it extra tight, only to actually give 1:11:35.640 --> 1:11:37.160 herself a knee or ankle lock. 1:11:37.280 --> 1:11:39.400 And and that was kind of the big issue there. 1:11:40.439 --> 1:11:42.920 It puts a lot of pressure on the knee capsule 1:11:42.960 --> 1:11:45.440 gives a lot of pressure also on the ankle sometimes 1:11:45.479 --> 1:11:49.720 as well, either the one that's tied into it or 1:11:49.760 --> 1:11:50.519 the far ankle. 1:11:50.600 --> 1:11:53.200 So it's a bad read. It's a bad idea for 1:11:53.240 --> 1:11:54.360 a lot of different reasons. 1:11:54.479 --> 1:11:57.080 But it was cool that, you know, the fighter was 1:11:57.120 --> 1:11:59.640 able to kind of take advantage of that. Is our 1:12:00.600 --> 1:12:02.719 or Alice Ardell. 1:12:04.920 --> 1:12:07.320 Butchered that. But the capsule lock. 1:12:08.800 --> 1:12:11.680 Uh somewhere Carl gotcha's smiling, right, It just looked like 1:12:11.760 --> 1:12:14.759 catch wrestling one oh one right, just kind of crushed 1:12:14.800 --> 1:12:16.280 something until it snaps. 1:12:16.720 --> 1:12:17.080 Uh. 1:12:17.120 --> 1:12:19.799 And Yeah, I'm with Kenny, like, hopefully this dissuades fighters 1:12:19.800 --> 1:12:22.120 from doing that body triangle from guard because there's like 1:12:22.120 --> 1:12:25.599 there's nothing there, Like, there's nothing there, there's nothing that 1:12:25.760 --> 1:12:29.759 Anderson yourself, man, Yeah, like I hope you learned your lesson. 1:12:29.800 --> 1:12:31.360 Go sit in a corner and think about it. Like 1:12:31.760 --> 1:12:34.679 Anderson still did a sweep, awesome sweep with that one 1:12:34.720 --> 1:12:36.600 time in Pride and he like he was able to 1:12:36.640 --> 1:12:38.800 get his instep under into like a cool sweep like. 1:12:38.840 --> 1:12:42.080 Other than that, it's just been a stall technique. So yeah, yeah, 1:12:42.280 --> 1:12:43.120 learn your lesson fighters. 1:12:43.120 --> 1:12:43.519 Stop it. 1:12:43.880 --> 1:12:46.760 You said r J that Arnold Allen versus Melchaz al 1:12:46.840 --> 1:12:49.920 Costa was perfect matchmaking, and it really was a good fight. 1:12:50.000 --> 1:12:52.479 I know Arnold Allen was critical of the meta apex 1:12:52.520 --> 1:12:54.559 after the fact, and that is a whole other core 1:12:54.600 --> 1:12:56.320 of an hour conversation, right. 1:12:56.160 --> 1:12:58.960 And I do believe that this fight would have been. 1:13:00.280 --> 1:13:03.680 Great or appreciated if it was a raucous crowd behind it. 1:13:03.720 --> 1:13:06.160 But I just thought Arnold Allen's boxing looked awesome and 1:13:06.160 --> 1:13:07.479 I thought this was great to watch. 1:13:07.520 --> 1:13:08.439 What are your thoughts? 1:13:08.840 --> 1:13:13.240 Shame on MVP for trying to counterprogram Arnold Allen Costa. 1:13:13.160 --> 1:13:15.080 Right, put a whole together, a whole car just to 1:13:15.120 --> 1:13:16.640 counterprogram these great featherweights. 1:13:16.760 --> 1:13:19.040 No, I mean you got you got Arnold Allen who 1:13:19.040 --> 1:13:21.200 went on this that fantastic run and then lost three 1:13:21.200 --> 1:13:24.240 of four against three of the top seven featherweights in 1:13:24.320 --> 1:13:26.400 the world, and then you had Melki want you know, 1:13:26.479 --> 1:13:28.880 one six in a row with style points in every 1:13:28.880 --> 1:13:32.200 single fight, just didn't quite have the names the scalps 1:13:32.200 --> 1:13:35.080 like the resume, so they both kind of collided perfectly. 1:13:35.160 --> 1:13:37.920 Arnold Allen I think deserve to not fight a former 1:13:38.000 --> 1:13:40.719 champion for a matchup, and I think Melki Costin deserved 1:13:40.800 --> 1:13:44.080 a high profile spot. But it just showed man Arnold 1:13:44.080 --> 1:13:48.040 Allen's just so disciplined. H The game plan was sound. 1:13:48.760 --> 1:13:50.639 There was a couple of times in the later rounds 1:13:50.680 --> 1:13:52.400 early where Milkie would kind of start to get a 1:13:52.439 --> 1:13:56.320 little bit of momentum and then Arnold Allen just shut 1:13:56.360 --> 1:13:58.040 him down, didn't let him get his way. 1:13:58.880 --> 1:14:01.479 It was awesome Arnold do that. I think. 1:14:01.720 --> 1:14:03.519 I don't know when you saw Kenny, but I don't 1:14:03.880 --> 1:14:07.000 I wonder if Arnold improved a lot or if Milk 1:14:07.160 --> 1:14:10.519 was just kind of a nice matchup for him. It 1:14:11.040 --> 1:14:12.920 seemed like Alan kind of just was able to be 1:14:13.000 --> 1:14:16.400 vintage Allen and was able to not cruise but. 1:14:16.520 --> 1:14:17.719 Made it made it look pretty easy. 1:14:18.320 --> 1:14:20.040 No I spotted. I think it was a little bit 1:14:20.040 --> 1:14:20.360 of both. 1:14:20.400 --> 1:14:21.960 I think it was a good matchup for him, but 1:14:22.040 --> 1:14:24.160 I saw and much improved Arnold Allen. 1:14:24.240 --> 1:14:27.320 He looked sharper. I think he looked. 1:14:27.040 --> 1:14:30.840 Refreshed, and he was just getting the better of those 1:14:30.880 --> 1:14:33.920 exchanges repeatedly against a very dangerous guy at Costa. He 1:14:34.000 --> 1:14:36.599 was trying to get things done, but Alan just seemed 1:14:36.640 --> 1:14:39.280 to be a step ahead every single time. And you know, 1:14:39.360 --> 1:14:43.320 there's been some times where to me, Alan didn't carry 1:14:43.320 --> 1:14:45.400 that same level of passion in some of the rounds, 1:14:45.439 --> 1:14:48.080 Like it's almost like he's kind of content to cruise sometimes. 1:14:48.320 --> 1:14:52.559 This one he was working, you know, for everything out there. 1:14:52.640 --> 1:14:55.559 Yeah, yeah, he didn't get a finish, not for any 1:14:55.640 --> 1:14:57.600 lack of effort, and he bemoaned the fact that he 1:14:57.640 --> 1:14:59.479 didn't get one after the fact. But again, he's looking 1:14:59.479 --> 1:15:02.120 for the rematch with Mavsori Ofloyev and uh still very 1:15:02.200 --> 1:15:04.880 much a featherweight force with whom to be reckoned. All right, 1:15:04.920 --> 1:15:07.840 A few other things here with R J Clifford Live 1:15:07.920 --> 1:15:11.639 on the Anakin Florian podcast. So the extent to which 1:15:11.680 --> 1:15:15.160 Connor McGregor is back back or back for one fight, 1:15:15.280 --> 1:15:17.720 I don't know, what are your thoughts on the matchmaking 1:15:17.800 --> 1:15:21.080 with Connor and what the rest of twenty twenty six 1:15:21.120 --> 1:15:25.360 Slash twenty twenty seven might hold for the notorious Connor McGregor. 1:15:26.200 --> 1:15:28.320 Well, I think with everything Connor McGregor, I think we 1:15:28.400 --> 1:15:31.240 get really caught up and understandably so and everything around 1:15:31.280 --> 1:15:34.920 the fight, because that's it's just a giant circus and 1:15:34.920 --> 1:15:36.960 in all the right ways when when Connor fights, and 1:15:37.000 --> 1:15:38.360 sometimes we forget about like. 1:15:38.840 --> 1:15:41.920 Connor Max two's a really fucking fun five boys. 1:15:42.000 --> 1:15:45.519 Yeah, like that's just good, like from just like a 1:15:45.680 --> 1:15:49.160 tape study nerd MMA standpoint. The most casual fan in 1:15:49.200 --> 1:15:51.439 the world can look at that fight and say, Wow, 1:15:51.479 --> 1:15:54.480 that's gonna be a lot of fun. Love the matchmaking, 1:15:54.520 --> 1:15:56.799 and they're fighting at one hundred. Who gives a shit pounds? 1:15:56.840 --> 1:15:59.800 Like just put those two badasses together and the little 1:15:59.800 --> 1:16:02.840 bit of storyline. They're already talking shit on Twitter like yeah, 1:16:02.880 --> 1:16:06.719 just just can't wait for International Fight Week for that fight. 1:16:06.840 --> 1:16:10.040 And then you know, the UFC also understands, like when 1:16:10.040 --> 1:16:12.439 there's a Connor McGregor fight, obviously that's what everyone you know, 1:16:12.439 --> 1:16:13.920 he's the one that brings all the boys of the yard, 1:16:14.120 --> 1:16:15.719 and so they match up the rest of the cards 1:16:15.880 --> 1:16:19.320 with people that are like good matchups, like you don't 1:16:19.320 --> 1:16:21.320 have to have giant name value, but guys they believe 1:16:21.360 --> 1:16:24.280 in and so like the rest of that card's fantastic too, 1:16:25.200 --> 1:16:27.080 But yeah, I think that's always the big question, right, 1:16:27.120 --> 1:16:30.240 is he there'll be five years in one day exactly 1:16:30.320 --> 1:16:32.880 between fights for him, and with that long layoff, is 1:16:32.880 --> 1:16:36.120 he coming back just to do this max thing? 1:16:36.240 --> 1:16:38.040 Because there's a lot of good fights. 1:16:37.760 --> 1:16:39.760 For him, right, Like that trilled you with Nate, Like 1:16:39.920 --> 1:16:41.439 I mean that trilled you with Nate das they could 1:16:41.439 --> 1:16:43.280 both be on a ten fight losing streak, and I 1:16:43.280 --> 1:16:46.599 think everyone's still gonna want to see Connor versus Nate 1:16:46.640 --> 1:16:48.479 three if that brings Nate back to the UFC, and 1:16:48.520 --> 1:16:51.920 then obviously multiple matchups and multiple weight classes for Connor 1:16:51.960 --> 1:16:52.400 makes sense. 1:16:53.640 --> 1:16:55.280 That's what I'm really curious about. I mean, Kenny, you 1:16:55.280 --> 1:16:56.080 know him better than I do. 1:16:56.880 --> 1:16:58.600 He doesn't seem like a guy that's just kind of 1:16:58.640 --> 1:17:01.800 like just Ronda just kind of show up, take a 1:17:01.800 --> 1:17:05.439 paycheck and bounce like he wants, like he thoroughly believes, 1:17:05.479 --> 1:17:07.959 like he's still the best fighter in like three way classes. 1:17:08.439 --> 1:17:11.080 Right yeah, I think that's what That's what made him 1:17:11.120 --> 1:17:17.040 so great was his self belief. And I think, you know, 1:17:17.720 --> 1:17:20.799 it's gonna be interesting to see how his training goes 1:17:20.880 --> 1:17:23.200 leading up to the fight, uh, and whether his body 1:17:23.200 --> 1:17:25.720 can stay healthy. To me, I think that's bigger than 1:17:25.760 --> 1:17:28.840 anything else is can't he stay healthy? Because I do 1:17:28.920 --> 1:17:30.960 think that if he is healthy, not only could he 1:17:31.000 --> 1:17:33.120 win this fight, he could potentially finish Max. I do 1:17:33.160 --> 1:17:37.800 think he's that good, He's that talented, And yeah, what 1:17:38.080 --> 1:17:41.479 are you expecting from Connor? You know, Ray was saying, well, 1:17:41.520 --> 1:17:43.479 maybe this is a money grap I don't think that's 1:17:43.520 --> 1:17:46.160 the case. Again, I don't work for the UFC, but 1:17:46.320 --> 1:17:48.360 I'm excited about it. And I do think that Connor 1:17:48.400 --> 1:17:50.880 is earnest in his attempt to go out there and 1:17:50.920 --> 1:17:53.759 beat Max and then see what's next, maybe face someone, 1:17:54.200 --> 1:17:57.880 uh you know, to go up to maybe to fight 1:17:57.920 --> 1:17:58.840 for a title at some point. 1:17:59.560 --> 1:17:59.800 Yeah. 1:17:59.800 --> 1:18:01.720 I mean he's gonna be thirty eight in July, so 1:18:02.000 --> 1:18:05.120 that's obviously a factor here. I don't know how quite 1:18:05.240 --> 1:18:08.439 clean his living is to be able to sustain, right, 1:18:08.960 --> 1:18:11.160 you know what I mean? Like, you know, I'm forty 1:18:11.160 --> 1:18:13.920 two and just I was just trying to like play 1:18:13.920 --> 1:18:16.160 on the jungle gym with my daughter yesterday and a 1:18:16.160 --> 1:18:18.320 couple of cantile that Margoty is afterwards, and just like, 1:18:18.439 --> 1:18:21.479 nah that I'm kind of sore, you know, like my 1:18:21.520 --> 1:18:24.559 body through anything Connor has so but I think I 1:18:24.600 --> 1:18:26.960 think it's good that he's doing it now. I think 1:18:26.960 --> 1:18:29.760 he wants to and I think the next eighteen months 1:18:29.880 --> 1:18:33.439 or so is his like not last gas per se, 1:18:33.479 --> 1:18:35.799 but I think that's when it's most interesting, when it's 1:18:36.120 --> 1:18:38.840 you know, it's Connor. So even when we all kind 1:18:38.840 --> 1:18:40.960 of know maybe the wheels have come off a little bit, 1:18:41.000 --> 1:18:42.799 I think they're still intrigue and I think there's still, 1:18:42.960 --> 1:18:45.479 you know, stuff to be excited about. But I am 1:18:45.600 --> 1:18:48.720 genuinely intrigued, not just for the circus, but I'm genuinely intrigued, Like. 1:18:48.760 --> 1:18:49.559 How good is he? 1:18:49.880 --> 1:18:50.720 How good is. 1:18:50.680 --> 1:18:53.559 Connor McGregor right now in the year of Our Lord 1:18:53.600 --> 1:18:55.719 twenty twenty six act all the way? Is the perfect 1:18:55.760 --> 1:18:56.920 guy to find out? 1:18:57.120 --> 1:18:59.080 I think so well, And I would submit to you, 1:18:59.160 --> 1:19:01.120 are Jay, and I'm curious to get your thoughts on this. 1:19:01.200 --> 1:19:05.960 However efficiently, I would submit to you that he's better 1:19:05.960 --> 1:19:10.160 than plus three ten against most guys. Right, No, I 1:19:10.160 --> 1:19:13.680 mean this is not fighting Michael Morales, you know, Like 1:19:15.040 --> 1:19:20.160 I mean, go ahead, what's. 1:19:18.640 --> 1:19:20.839 The path to victory for Connor against Max Halloway? 1:19:20.880 --> 1:19:21.040 Right? 1:19:21.120 --> 1:19:23.639 Like he's kind of have to knock him out, right, 1:19:23.680 --> 1:19:26.920 I mean he can't very hard, yes, right, It's like, 1:19:26.960 --> 1:19:29.840 what's the path to victory for Connor? It's and Max 1:19:29.880 --> 1:19:31.599 has finally been cracked, right. 1:19:31.520 --> 1:19:32.400 It took five rounds. 1:19:32.400 --> 1:19:36.640 We got five rounds, five rounds, right, like rounds the 1:19:37.120 --> 1:19:38.400 volume of Max Halloway. 1:19:38.439 --> 1:19:40.400 I don't know how many rounds Connor can win. 1:19:40.479 --> 1:19:42.320 Is he gonna put the wrestling shoes on again like 1:19:42.360 --> 1:19:43.439 he did the first time. 1:19:44.360 --> 1:19:46.960 I mean, I'm just trying to think, Kenny, like, what's what. 1:19:46.880 --> 1:19:51.719 Are like the top three most like most likely paths 1:19:51.720 --> 1:19:55.320 to victory for Connor? And I'm thinking like knockout, knockout, knockout, Like, 1:19:55.320 --> 1:19:57.760 I don't know if there's another, like really really clean 1:19:57.800 --> 1:19:58.479 path to victory for. 1:19:58.520 --> 1:19:59.559 What was with Max. 1:19:59.680 --> 1:20:02.519 I mean, he could win rounds, he can win with kicks, 1:20:02.600 --> 1:20:04.439 he can win in the clinch. 1:20:05.880 --> 1:20:06.080 Yeah. 1:20:06.080 --> 1:20:08.040 I'm not saying, you know, Connor is this world class 1:20:08.080 --> 1:20:10.240 wrestler or grappler or anything like that, But I wouldn't 1:20:10.240 --> 1:20:12.400 be surprised to see him mix things up with takedowns. 1:20:12.520 --> 1:20:15.559 I think obviously he was forced more so than he 1:20:15.600 --> 1:20:17.920 wanted to win that first fight due to the torn 1:20:17.960 --> 1:20:21.240 acl during their fight. But I do think he's the 1:20:21.320 --> 1:20:24.000 more powerful puncher, So yeah, I agree with you on 1:20:24.040 --> 1:20:27.080 the knockout thing, but I wouldn't be surprised, especially coming 1:20:27.120 --> 1:20:30.280 off that loss against Charles Olivera. You know, you know 1:20:31.280 --> 1:20:35.160 in Charles Olivera, I think has very He's improved his takedowns, 1:20:35.600 --> 1:20:36.200 but he's. 1:20:36.000 --> 1:20:37.360 Not a world class wrestler either. 1:20:37.960 --> 1:20:39.880 And if I'm trying to win rounds or tire rout 1:20:39.920 --> 1:20:42.559 Max Holloway or mix things up and keep them guessing, 1:20:43.320 --> 1:20:45.640 I wouldn't be a surprised to see McGregor integrate some 1:20:46.120 --> 1:20:46.960 wrestling in this fight. 1:20:47.479 --> 1:20:49.599 It is interesting, though, when you think about the evolution 1:20:49.720 --> 1:20:52.800 of the UFC's welterweight division from twenty twenty one to 1:20:52.880 --> 1:20:56.559 twenty twenty six, right, because we all know Connor McGregor 1:20:57.640 --> 1:21:01.360 all filled with pride and championship asp. Right, this is 1:21:01.439 --> 1:21:05.960 not a welterweight division where maybe they're Kolby Covington or 1:21:06.000 --> 1:21:08.160 the great kamara Ousman Leon Edwards. 1:21:08.200 --> 1:21:08.360 Right. 1:21:08.400 --> 1:21:11.759 I mean, just look at Ian Mashado, Gary and Carlos 1:21:11.800 --> 1:21:14.920 Protests and Michael Morales. These are like six foot three 1:21:15.080 --> 1:21:18.920 inch fucking monsters, right. I mean, I can't wait to 1:21:18.920 --> 1:21:21.080 see what the weltsweight division looks like in ten years, 1:21:21.120 --> 1:21:24.719 so there's a lot of exceedingly difficult fights at the top. 1:21:24.760 --> 1:21:27.400 Were he to do something special here at knockout Max. 1:21:28.000 --> 1:21:30.639 What's the uh, what's he got planned for pre fight hype? 1:21:30.680 --> 1:21:31.880 I mean, I can't imagine him. 1:21:32.040 --> 1:21:34.439 It's Max, right, he's just like such a nice guy, 1:21:34.560 --> 1:21:36.800 Like he's not gonna fly to Hawaii and throw a 1:21:36.840 --> 1:21:40.920 dolly through a bus, right, Like it's all away, you know, 1:21:41.080 --> 1:21:42.519 Like what are you gonna what do you like? 1:21:42.600 --> 1:21:43.800 How are you gonna tackle this? 1:21:43.920 --> 1:21:46.640 Like that's that's honestly most intriguing with x'es and O's like, 1:21:46.640 --> 1:21:47.600 what's Connor gonna do? 1:21:47.640 --> 1:21:49.960 Like, you know, because he does his research on his guys, right, 1:21:50.080 --> 1:21:51.400 Like he finds out about. 1:21:51.160 --> 1:21:55.160 Your family and your background and your trainer and your agent, Like. 1:21:55.840 --> 1:21:56.439 What's he gonna do? 1:21:56.560 --> 1:21:59.639 Max? I'm gonna deep there, Connor, Good. 1:21:59.479 --> 1:22:00.960 Luck, Argie. 1:22:00.960 --> 1:22:03.840 I want to get one thought on Francis Ganu, and 1:22:03.960 --> 1:22:05.639 it can be in the context of the win over 1:22:05.680 --> 1:22:08.840 Felipe Linz, it can be just in the context of 1:22:08.880 --> 1:22:12.719 his straight destruction as an MMA heavyweight. But it seems 1:22:12.760 --> 1:22:15.000 that at times, only in combat sports do we have 1:22:15.080 --> 1:22:18.000 to deal with the very best not fighting the best 1:22:18.080 --> 1:22:21.520 in their relative primes, right, I mean, the Cleveland Cavaliers 1:22:21.520 --> 1:22:24.160 and the Detroit Pistons just handled their business over seven 1:22:24.200 --> 1:22:27.439 games and like nothing gets in the way. And so 1:22:27.920 --> 1:22:30.439 while this win should be celebrated and my eyes are 1:22:30.479 --> 1:22:34.200 peeled at whatever Eastern Standard time hour, it's like, well, 1:22:34.240 --> 1:22:35.840 if he's not gonna be fighting the best heavyweights in 1:22:35.840 --> 1:22:37.760 the world and the not too distant future, you know, 1:22:38.120 --> 1:22:41.120 then let me get my who cares folder? 1:22:42.680 --> 1:22:45.400 Yeah, man, I mean it was just another reminder two 1:22:45.840 --> 1:22:48.160 of like I always thought, like, all right, if there's 1:22:48.160 --> 1:22:51.000 any you know, talking about getting older, there's any opponent 1:22:51.000 --> 1:22:53.200 that would make me physically shit my pants in the 1:22:53.240 --> 1:22:55.880 cage if I had to fight them. I thought it 1:22:56.000 --> 1:23:00.439 was Cane Velasquez and rus Marplarrez for both obvious reasons. 1:23:00.520 --> 1:23:02.000 It might be Francis I Ganu. 1:23:02.080 --> 1:23:05.120 Now, yeah, I think I just so destructive and like 1:23:05.120 --> 1:23:06.960 you said, Kenny, like he only needs to connect like 1:23:07.040 --> 1:23:09.519 at fifteen percent, Like he doesn't need to hit the chin. 1:23:10.040 --> 1:23:12.639 He can like just like the bottom knuckle to your 1:23:12.680 --> 1:23:15.000 forehead and your brain's rattling. 1:23:15.560 --> 1:23:17.760 Well, he'd killed two birds with one stone, RJ. Because 1:23:17.760 --> 1:23:19.880 you'd be knocked out and you'd shot your pants from 1:23:19.880 --> 1:23:20.800 the god. 1:23:21.120 --> 1:23:24.840 So either before or after, either either way that uh, 1:23:24.960 --> 1:23:27.320 the shutter speed of the sphincter is not gonna be faster. 1:23:29.000 --> 1:23:31.479 But but I mean to your point, right, like he's 1:23:31.800 --> 1:23:34.640 he's gonna be forty in September. It's heavyweight, so you 1:23:34.680 --> 1:23:36.559 can do a lot of that. I mean, why did 1:23:36.640 --> 1:23:38.280 he fight to spawnan a like that should have been 1:23:38.320 --> 1:23:41.160 the fight right there, right, But you know, MVP, you 1:23:41.160 --> 1:23:43.120 know they match made the way they did for uh 1:23:43.600 --> 1:23:47.639 knockouts and they got them. But yeah, it's it's it's 1:23:47.720 --> 1:23:52.400 so hard to find good heavyweights in the UFC heavyweight 1:23:52.439 --> 1:23:55.639 division sometimes, like trying to get a really good MMA 1:23:55.720 --> 1:23:59.800 heavyweight outside the UFC is a real challenge. And he 1:24:00.080 --> 1:24:02.880 time Francis is fighting mixed martial arts is it's a 1:24:02.880 --> 1:24:04.200 good thing. So I don't want, you know, I don't 1:24:04.200 --> 1:24:06.280 want to be too like. 1:24:06.280 --> 1:24:07.439 Too negative about it. 1:24:07.479 --> 1:24:09.280 Like they got him to do an MMA fight against 1:24:09.280 --> 1:24:11.320 the fighter on at you know, a UFC level guy 1:24:11.360 --> 1:24:13.599 on a win streag Sol That's that's a good thing. 1:24:15.439 --> 1:24:17.559 But I don't know, man, Like it's it's funny right 1:24:17.600 --> 1:24:20.759 whenever John Jones like legally can't fight Francis. 1:24:20.760 --> 1:24:22.760 That's when he wants to fight Francis. 1:24:22.280 --> 1:24:24.000 Like, of course, I know, I know, you know, it's 1:24:24.040 --> 1:24:27.280 like I'm really not trying to be negative. It's just 1:24:27.320 --> 1:24:29.559 there's nothing upon which to build here. I mean, he 1:24:29.600 --> 1:24:32.559 could fight Robellis to Spain, I guess for an MVP 1:24:32.640 --> 1:24:35.160 heavyweight title or something like that, but you know, I 1:24:35.200 --> 1:24:37.680 still it's gonna leave MMA fans jones and for more 1:24:37.680 --> 1:24:40.000 all right on a positive note to get you out. 1:24:41.040 --> 1:24:45.120 Corey Sanhagan accepting the rematch with Mario Bautista just speaks 1:24:45.120 --> 1:24:49.000 to everything that's great and racious about MMA, that Mario. 1:24:48.840 --> 1:24:49.720 Is so deserving. 1:24:49.760 --> 1:24:52.360 And you think back to the short notice UFC debut 1:24:52.400 --> 1:24:55.639 for him against san Haagen in twenty nineteen and Corey 1:24:56.080 --> 1:24:59.200 loses out on the O'Malley fight that he absolutely should 1:24:59.200 --> 1:25:03.280 have gotten as a blooded American, and now he accepts 1:25:03.360 --> 1:25:05.840 this fight right like there should be a GoFundMe for 1:25:05.920 --> 1:25:07.679 san Hagen just for fan approval. 1:25:08.840 --> 1:25:11.240 It is so weird, like I think of like fighter 1:25:11.360 --> 1:25:13.320 careers like not going the way I thought. And I'm 1:25:13.360 --> 1:25:15.439 like I thought for sure Cory sand Hagen would be 1:25:15.479 --> 1:25:17.800 on his like fourth title defense by now he's just 1:25:18.040 --> 1:25:21.280 so goddamn good and one of the best game planners 1:25:21.280 --> 1:25:23.479 and fighting minds that I love to just kind. 1:25:23.280 --> 1:25:25.240 Of byes with about fights. 1:25:25.240 --> 1:25:27.800 He just so and Marveltiz is one of the most 1:25:27.880 --> 1:25:29.599 underappreciated fighters in the division. 1:25:29.680 --> 1:25:31.439 He's, like you said, just so good. 1:25:31.640 --> 1:25:35.879 So like mistake free, which just in and of itself 1:25:35.960 --> 1:25:39.400 is so hard to do in mixed martial arts. I 1:25:39.479 --> 1:25:41.920 just yeah, this is fun stylistic matchup. It's two guys 1:25:41.920 --> 1:25:42.200 that I. 1:25:42.120 --> 1:25:44.280 Think are you know, criminally underappreciated. 1:25:44.680 --> 1:25:47.479 So you know, the bad thing is one of them 1:25:47.520 --> 1:25:49.479 is gonna lose, and it's gonna look real bad, right, Like, 1:25:49.479 --> 1:25:52.120 it's gonna look like it's gonna be a big, big setback. 1:25:52.560 --> 1:25:54.719 I'm just hoping the win doesn't just kind of hold 1:25:54.800 --> 1:25:56.560 serve for the winner. I hope it gets them to 1:25:56.600 --> 1:25:57.519 a place where they need to go. 1:25:57.880 --> 1:26:00.280 Yeah, Mario's the man, he really is. I think that 1:26:00.400 --> 1:26:03.320 umar loss is really going to fortune for that, all right. 1:26:03.439 --> 1:26:03.599 RJ. 1:26:03.760 --> 1:26:07.280 Clifford my man. So no UFC Lavevett this weekend, So 1:26:07.439 --> 1:26:09.720 anything planned? Do you have any recreational time or what? 1:26:10.720 --> 1:26:13.160 Yeah, it's the the rare weekend off and so now 1:26:13.160 --> 1:26:14.160 I'm on kid duty. 1:26:14.240 --> 1:26:17.240 She's got about forty eight birthday parties this weekend to 1:26:17.360 --> 1:26:17.640 go to. 1:26:17.920 --> 1:26:21.040 She's just was goddamn most popular six year old and 1:26:21.080 --> 1:26:21.960 all of the beach. 1:26:22.160 --> 1:26:24.760 I guess she obviously has her mom's charm, so they 1:26:24.800 --> 1:26:25.639 have to be doing that. 1:26:25.800 --> 1:26:29.000 And yeah, man, hey, just real quick before I go. Yeah, 1:26:29.400 --> 1:26:32.559 genuinely warmed my heart like a Thanksgiving dinner. Hearing Kenny 1:26:32.640 --> 1:26:36.639 call color again like it just is all. Obviously, your 1:26:36.640 --> 1:26:39.720 contributions to MMA are great here like in a podcast form, 1:26:39.800 --> 1:26:42.240 it's phenomenal and fantastic. But to be able to like 1:26:42.360 --> 1:26:46.400 touch live action like touch the sport is uh is 1:26:46.400 --> 1:26:47.120 where you need to be. 1:26:47.240 --> 1:26:48.800 So hopefully you're very kind man. 1:26:48.960 --> 1:26:52.280 Next time I see you, I'm buying you eighteen Cantaloupe 1:26:52.360 --> 1:26:53.439 Margarita's thank you. 1:26:53.520 --> 1:26:54.800 Oh beautiful, the. 1:26:57.600 --> 1:27:02.120 One at r J Clifford m m A, please go 1:27:02.200 --> 1:27:03.559 follow my man, you're the best. 1:27:03.560 --> 1:27:05.880 We'll we'll talk to you in two weeks. 1:27:06.000 --> 1:27:10.479 Enjoy your Memorial Day holiday and the Kenny Floorian fiftieth 1:27:10.479 --> 1:27:12.439 birthdays for abrighanza and we'll talk to you in two 1:27:12.439 --> 1:27:14.960 weeks on the first gym. 1:27:14.720 --> 1:27:19.120 Five decades, half century. 1:27:20.040 --> 1:27:25.519 Thanks RJ. 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I mean we're twins. 1:29:05.600 --> 1:29:08.200 Imagine if I, oh, this is my better half, my 1:29:08.200 --> 1:29:11.800 my identical twin brother Jason Annik, what's up? 1:29:11.920 --> 1:29:12.519 What's up? Guys? 1:29:12.560 --> 1:29:15.280 Hey, flow, You know, the main reason he's talking about 1:29:15.320 --> 1:29:17.720 the fiftieth birthday is because you know we're going to 1:29:17.760 --> 1:29:20.320 be forty eight, and it's like, it is just so 1:29:20.560 --> 1:29:23.800 fucked being so much closer to fifty than thirty because 1:29:23.840 --> 1:29:26.760 we all sort of consider ourselves like kids in a 1:29:26.760 --> 1:29:28.720 way still, do you know what I mean? So so 1:29:28.760 --> 1:29:32.519 it's really our creep on fifty. That's the reasoning for 1:29:32.640 --> 1:29:35.000 him being so focused on that. If you want to 1:29:35.000 --> 1:29:36.519 know the truth, well yeah, it's. 1:29:36.360 --> 1:29:37.880 Like if you know you're going to be involved in 1:29:37.920 --> 1:29:40.200 a car crash, a very particular kind of car crash, 1:29:40.280 --> 1:29:41.800 like you want to see it first. And you guys 1:29:41.840 --> 1:29:44.360 got to cha to see me in that car crash, 1:29:44.400 --> 1:29:45.519 so I'll let you know how it goes. 1:29:45.640 --> 1:29:47.360 Yeah, well you know, and like I'm about to be 1:29:47.439 --> 1:29:49.760 forty eight, but my wife is forty five and she's 1:29:49.800 --> 1:29:52.000 going to be forty six in December, and I'm like, yeah, 1:29:52.040 --> 1:29:54.560 you're always on my heels like it happened to everybody. 1:29:54.600 --> 1:29:54.800 You know. 1:29:54.920 --> 1:29:58.960 It's so but flow congratulations brother, you know what I mean? 1:29:59.000 --> 1:30:00.519 You know how much love I have? You tell how 1:30:00.600 --> 1:30:03.559 happy I was to see your face, your face, I 1:30:03.560 --> 1:30:05.920 mean as much as your voice at nine o'clock on 1:30:05.960 --> 1:30:09.000 the sticks. I just I don't have enough words. You 1:30:09.040 --> 1:30:10.639 guys have probably said a lot about that, but I'm 1:30:10.720 --> 1:30:13.600 just curious, were you like bolting to get up on 1:30:13.640 --> 1:30:16.599 that set to do those DraftKings gambling hits and then 1:30:16.680 --> 1:30:17.759 right back down to the booth. 1:30:17.960 --> 1:30:19.840 Tell me about what that experience was like for those 1:30:19.880 --> 1:30:23.040 that don't see I got my steps in on Saturday night. 1:30:23.080 --> 1:30:24.080 For sure. Yeah it was. 1:30:24.200 --> 1:30:25.680 It was kind of crazy. I was a little bit, 1:30:25.680 --> 1:30:28.080 a little bit embarrassing. I kind of felt like the president. 1:30:28.120 --> 1:30:30.160 You know. They had like security guards running me up 1:30:30.200 --> 1:30:32.719 and down, you know, to try to do these hits. 1:30:32.760 --> 1:30:35.280 But uh, it was. It was a little hectic. Man, 1:30:35.360 --> 1:30:38.519 it was interesting. But yeah, it worked out. You know, 1:30:38.880 --> 1:30:39.680 it worked out, you know. 1:30:39.880 --> 1:30:42.320 And I and I will say for Netflix and MVP. 1:30:42.920 --> 1:30:45.360 You know, I did this small thing for super Nova 1:30:45.439 --> 1:30:48.040 Boxing on Netflix this English translation right, So in a 1:30:48.080 --> 1:30:51.280 way flow, as I'm watching you, I'm feeling some of 1:30:51.360 --> 1:30:55.640 what is happening as Netflix dives into sports. Sports is 1:30:55.720 --> 1:30:58.640 brand new for Netflix, and so there's a lot of 1:30:58.680 --> 1:31:03.120 moving parts with these promotions right that are green if 1:31:03.160 --> 1:31:07.400 you will, so you can be sure MVP Netflix's second 1:31:07.640 --> 1:31:10.880 MMA event from a technical and production standpoint, will be 1:31:10.960 --> 1:31:13.840 leveled up from this event. Because you can only know 1:31:13.880 --> 1:31:15.880 what you don't know until you only know what you 1:31:15.920 --> 1:31:17.840 know until you sort of dive in. So for those 1:31:17.880 --> 1:31:20.920 watching a home expecting perfection, there's a lot of moving 1:31:21.040 --> 1:31:26.120 parts as these promotions and networks sort of dive in one. 1:31:26.080 --> 1:31:28.799 Hundred percent man, and John knows this better than anybody. 1:31:28.800 --> 1:31:32.320 But like you know, these MMA events, they're a gargantuine effort, 1:31:32.439 --> 1:31:34.439 you know it is, There's so much. 1:31:34.280 --> 1:31:35.000 That goes into it. 1:31:35.040 --> 1:31:38.800 There's so many moving parts, like you said, and you know, still, 1:31:38.840 --> 1:31:41.760 I think for them doing MMA for the first time, 1:31:42.000 --> 1:31:44.320 I thought it was a great success. I think it 1:31:44.360 --> 1:31:47.040 will only get bigger and better as time moves on. 1:31:47.600 --> 1:31:49.800 I think their biggest challenge moving forward is just, you know, 1:31:50.040 --> 1:31:52.200 getting the fights, getting the fights that matter, getting the 1:31:52.240 --> 1:31:53.080 fighters that matter. 1:31:53.960 --> 1:31:56.360 But from a production standpoint, I think they will only 1:31:56.400 --> 1:31:56.840 get better. 1:31:56.920 --> 1:31:59.920 So yeah, and one more thing, John, if I can, 1:32:00.000 --> 1:32:02.080 and I just want to shout out my friend Mike Perry. 1:32:02.240 --> 1:32:04.439 You know, there was a lot of talk about Nate 1:32:04.520 --> 1:32:07.680 Diaz ad nauseum, right, and Mike Perry was sort of 1:32:07.680 --> 1:32:10.840 almost an afterthought, and he got himself in tremendous shape. 1:32:11.080 --> 1:32:13.799 Still was gassing a little bit through that ten Minutes 1:32:13.840 --> 1:32:17.160 of War if you will, it does seem an inevitability 1:32:17.160 --> 1:32:19.880 now that Nate Diez is going to be finished by 1:32:20.360 --> 1:32:24.280 technical knockout, you know, and blood Stitch most certainly called 1:32:24.280 --> 1:32:26.400 that fight. But you know, Mike Perry, who's been in 1:32:26.400 --> 1:32:29.400 the bare knuckle boxing realm unable to use all of 1:32:29.439 --> 1:32:31.720 his mixed martial arts skills to mix some of those 1:32:31.760 --> 1:32:34.200 back in. I think it's no secret that his presence 1:32:34.240 --> 1:32:36.880 in dirty boxing has evolved his elbow game. He was 1:32:36.920 --> 1:32:39.240 throwing elbows, I think from just sort of being in 1:32:39.280 --> 1:32:41.040 that sort of realm. So I was proud of Mike 1:32:41.080 --> 1:32:44.280 Perry for being really very prepared. And while he has 1:32:44.360 --> 1:32:46.720 made a lot of money in his career, Taxman came 1:32:46.800 --> 1:32:49.040 coming about a year ago, so I'm glad that he 1:32:49.400 --> 1:32:52.280 sort of got this opportunity. And you know, Mike Perry 1:32:52.360 --> 1:32:55.519 is his authentic self now, just like he was five 1:32:55.600 --> 1:32:57.559 ten years ago when he was running through a window 1:32:57.600 --> 1:33:00.240 pane of glass. And the authentic self that is Mike 1:33:00.240 --> 1:33:03.360 Perry now is a mature, more different cat. And I'm 1:33:03.360 --> 1:33:06.639 excited to see where his career goes. Because that Perry 1:33:06.680 --> 1:33:09.559 Diaz fight had me excited for weeks. 1:33:09.920 --> 1:33:12.959 Going dude beautifully said, and I think that he probably 1:33:13.000 --> 1:33:15.320 because of those reasons you just mentioned, was the bigger, 1:33:15.520 --> 1:33:17.800 biggest winner of the night. You know, it's like giving 1:33:17.880 --> 1:33:20.920 himself options for non only bare Knuckle and MMA, but 1:33:21.080 --> 1:33:24.360 like now he becomes that big name, like you beat 1:33:24.479 --> 1:33:27.360 Nataz for whatever, it's like you're gonna be a bigger 1:33:27.360 --> 1:33:28.320 star because of it. 1:33:28.400 --> 1:33:30.960 So yeah, and I thought he was great on the microphone, 1:33:30.960 --> 1:33:33.040 you know, He's like, I got the job done. And 1:33:33.080 --> 1:33:35.519 then Ariel o'hellwani said to him, you know, maybe it 1:33:35.600 --> 1:33:38.080 wasn't as an emphatic as you would have liked. And 1:33:38.120 --> 1:33:40.200 I'm sitting there thinking it was emphatic, and then Perry says, 1:33:40.200 --> 1:33:42.880 he's like, I think it was emphatic because it was 1:33:43.400 --> 1:33:46.720 just because it ends without someone asleep on the canvas. 1:33:47.120 --> 1:33:47.360 You know. 1:33:47.479 --> 1:33:49.920 I thought it was very emphatic beatdown that it was 1:33:49.960 --> 1:33:53.880 not without adversity. Natiez certainly came back at times. So anyway, 1:33:53.960 --> 1:33:58.120 just proud of Platinum today. Yeah, well, of course, yeah, no, 1:33:58.200 --> 1:34:00.519 And I think probably to this point to the show, 1:34:00.600 --> 1:34:03.200 Perry was a little bit under celebrated relative to the win. 1:34:03.600 --> 1:34:06.439 I was still stuck on us acting like children. That's 1:34:06.479 --> 1:34:09.680 the issue. Whether we dressed like children at times, that 1:34:09.720 --> 1:34:12.400 doesn't apply to any He's been fashioned forward since like 1:34:12.600 --> 1:34:14.080 his early thirties. 1:34:14.120 --> 1:34:16.720 But acting like children. You know. 1:34:17.040 --> 1:34:21.559 I was with the spron Thrown Sport Coffee CEO Michael 1:34:21.600 --> 1:34:24.200 Fidelli at the fifteen of the Mahome's Golf Tournament, you know, 1:34:24.240 --> 1:34:26.520 and he's like, yeah, that clip of you on the podcast, 1:34:26.600 --> 1:34:29.679 like crushing the can on your head, like we used 1:34:29.680 --> 1:34:31.680 it in like a clip for Target. We just like 1:34:32.000 --> 1:34:34.000 edited out you dropping the F bomb. And it's like, 1:34:34.000 --> 1:34:35.559 I don't even remember that, you know what I mean. 1:34:36.360 --> 1:34:40.080 I tried to give myself cauliflower ear. That's the twin 1:34:40.120 --> 1:34:42.400 thing that was in my head right now. They are 1:34:42.560 --> 1:34:45.280 gentlemen out there who are actually getting I sent it 1:34:45.280 --> 1:34:47.479 to you, John, like plastic surgery to look as if 1:34:47.479 --> 1:34:50.040 they have cauliflower ear, to look like tough fighters. John 1:34:50.080 --> 1:34:53.360 tried to give it himself. I was drunk on a 1:34:53.400 --> 1:34:56.160 watch party and somebody challenged me to do it, and 1:34:56.240 --> 1:34:58.000 I took a couple of shot glasses and I was 1:34:58.120 --> 1:35:02.040 smashing my ear cargili the shot classes and uh it 1:35:02.280 --> 1:35:04.400 started to hurt too badly, so I didn't end up 1:35:04.400 --> 1:35:08.240 with cauliflower ear, but uh yeah, hopefully someone doesn't challenge 1:35:08.240 --> 1:35:10.360 me to shoot my ear up. Can you imagine how 1:35:10.800 --> 1:35:14.439 I'd get so last thing and then you you can 1:35:14.479 --> 1:35:16.400 take it back on the rails. But ken flow hair 1:35:16.439 --> 1:35:21.960 looked phenomenal, right, game calling a little bit after Turkey, 1:35:22.000 --> 1:35:25.200 if you will, Right, I could have been could have 1:35:25.240 --> 1:35:28.559 been healing, if you will. So the flow was flowing. 1:35:29.439 --> 1:35:30.920 Coincidence, I don't think. 1:35:30.960 --> 1:35:33.519 So It's funny because I still wear hats, you know, 1:35:33.600 --> 1:35:36.960 on the show and someone someone's comment was, Kenny's the 1:35:37.040 --> 1:35:39.560 kind of guy to go to Turkey, get hair transplant 1:35:39.560 --> 1:35:43.760 and still wear hats. Yeah, yeah, I don't have a 1:35:43.800 --> 1:35:44.960 had a today, So there you go. 1:35:45.160 --> 1:35:47.720 Oh it needs to breathe, you know. Yeah, let it 1:35:47.760 --> 1:35:48.400 agree on. 1:35:50.479 --> 1:35:53.519 Jason, anything else pressing before I get to opening up 1:35:53.520 --> 1:35:57.519 some cards. Anything on the weekend that uh that maybe ended. 1:35:57.400 --> 1:35:58.639 Up just real quickly. 1:35:58.680 --> 1:36:01.920 You know Ricky Lindell in the corner of Ronda Rousey, right, 1:36:01.920 --> 1:36:04.360 but probably didn't didn't need him as much, but like 1:36:04.680 --> 1:36:07.200 got to know Ricky Lindell through the Professional Grappling Federation. 1:36:07.280 --> 1:36:10.320 He's a big part of that promotion. And Ronda Rousey 1:36:10.439 --> 1:36:12.320 I mentioned this on a previous show, but she came 1:36:12.360 --> 1:36:15.160 to the PGF. She was embedded with those athletes sort 1:36:15.200 --> 1:36:17.439 of in their camp. And so even though we only 1:36:17.479 --> 1:36:21.559 saw sixteen seventeen seconds, Rowsey and Lindell did the work, 1:36:21.600 --> 1:36:23.519 and I think she had more to show than we 1:36:23.520 --> 1:36:24.320 were able to see. 1:36:24.840 --> 1:36:25.519 I agree with that. 1:36:25.600 --> 1:36:28.880 Yeah, I was gonna say, Ricky is one of the 1:36:29.040 --> 1:36:34.799 true good guys in the in sports and a fantastic coach. 1:36:34.920 --> 1:36:38.640 And the whole story about him calling Ronda, you know, 1:36:38.680 --> 1:36:41.559 when Ronda wasn't doing anything, saying hey, would you teach 1:36:41.600 --> 1:36:43.479 me judo and kind of in the back of the 1:36:43.520 --> 1:36:45.120 back of his mind knowing that. 1:36:45.080 --> 1:36:47.000 He's like, I'm going to get her to compete again 1:36:47.160 --> 1:36:49.479 like that. This is like in the back of his mind. 1:36:49.479 --> 1:36:51.360 He said he kind of had like a message almost 1:36:51.360 --> 1:36:53.200 from God, and that he that was a part of 1:36:53.240 --> 1:36:53.639 his plan. 1:36:53.720 --> 1:36:55.439 And you know, I have chills thinking about it. 1:36:55.479 --> 1:36:58.400 But yeah, they're They're a dynamic duo for sure, and 1:36:58.439 --> 1:37:00.400 it was great to see Ricky over the weekend. 1:37:00.439 --> 1:37:00.599 Man. 1:37:01.200 --> 1:37:03.639 I mean, I could take these two sports cards and 1:37:03.760 --> 1:37:08.840 maybe try to give myself cauliflower Domina. Cruise Cruise has 1:37:08.880 --> 1:37:16.320 almost done, John stop stop Cruise has stopped. Like cruise, Yeah, crew, 1:37:17.080 --> 1:37:18.800 we'll have can you do it? If I lose the 1:37:18.840 --> 1:37:25.800 main event challenge this year. No imagine Domina Cruise was 1:37:26.040 --> 1:37:27.759 getting after you a little bit in the past, almost 1:37:27.800 --> 1:37:32.479 hurting you. Go ahead, No, dom I will never wrestle 1:37:32.520 --> 1:37:33.080 with him again. 1:37:33.200 --> 1:37:37.160 He is I I. 1:37:37.320 --> 1:37:40.559 He's trying to hurt me sight trying to hurt all right, 1:37:40.600 --> 1:37:43.080 So what if I told you sixty dollars investment could 1:37:43.120 --> 1:37:45.559 land you a sixteen hundred dollars UFC card. 1:37:45.560 --> 1:37:46.679 Maybe today will be the day. 1:37:46.760 --> 1:37:49.599 Homo Fight repacks power by Collectibles dot Com, So you 1:37:49.640 --> 1:37:54.320 secure your pack inside is an authentic graded UFC card. 1:37:54.520 --> 1:37:56.559 From there you have choices. 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So Kenny Florian 1:38:23.479 --> 1:38:25.120 is going to try to reel in a big one today. 1:38:25.120 --> 1:38:27.800 We're going to open with Ken Flow's account for the 1:38:28.000 --> 1:38:32.479 most part fine print at the bottom, autograph cards we 1:38:32.520 --> 1:38:34.879 are keeping in the vault and giving to you fans. 1:38:34.920 --> 1:38:38.200 All right, so, Ken Flow, you do a solid, if 1:38:38.200 --> 1:38:42.599 not big hit. Right team is with glob Slash Team Florian. 1:38:45.240 --> 1:38:53.360 What do we got here? Come on, all right, I 1:38:53.400 --> 1:39:00.720 don't have my music something like that, all right, Ken 1:39:00.760 --> 1:39:02.960 Floorini Aldonna Yes. 1:39:02.800 --> 1:39:05.679 At twenty twenty three pen eighty Prism UFC seventy two, 1:39:06.200 --> 1:39:11.040 Reine Aldonna Octagon Prism PSA eight, and they are offering 1:39:11.040 --> 1:39:14.120 you ninety percent buy back fifty two dollars and ninety cents, 1:39:14.240 --> 1:39:15.799 or you can keep it in your vault, can. 1:39:15.680 --> 1:39:19.360 Flow Aldnna she's a beast. I love the way she fights, 1:39:19.400 --> 1:39:21.559 but uh, I mean ninety percent buy back. 1:39:21.600 --> 1:39:22.280 I'm gonna do that. 1:39:22.560 --> 1:39:26.439 Yeah, he's selling it back PSA eight. Yeah, sell sell, sell, 1:39:26.520 --> 1:39:29.880 sell sell, So Ken Flow has his cash probably sitting 1:39:29.920 --> 1:39:32.320 in there. I just keep buying again, all right. Ken 1:39:32.400 --> 1:39:36.800 Flow is getting a second pack today. Arena al Donna 1:39:36.880 --> 1:39:39.840 has been sold back. Yeah, Kenny's got like four hundred 1:39:39.880 --> 1:39:41.760 bucks mins nineteen dollars this fucking. 1:39:42.479 --> 1:39:42.960 A good thing. 1:39:43.000 --> 1:39:44.760 None of it belongs to any of you. It's all 1:39:44.840 --> 1:39:48.280 Matt tanners Holm A fight cards. That's his gorilla. 1:39:48.479 --> 1:39:55.240 Go ahead, what do we got here? Hom a fight 1:39:55.320 --> 1:39:56.080 special pack? 1:39:57.439 --> 1:40:03.519 Come on, ken Flow, no referees, no Whammy's in that? 1:40:03.840 --> 1:40:09.720 Oh oh yeah, kid Poeton worth worth less than al 1:40:09.840 --> 1:40:17.479 Donichrome UFC number two, Alex Padata Blue Geometric PSA nine, Kenny, 1:40:17.479 --> 1:40:18.800 you should keep Alex. 1:40:18.560 --> 1:40:22.960 Patata keeping that for keeping that? All right? Good? 1:40:22.960 --> 1:40:25.439 So we got one for the vault, potentially a fan giveaway. Cody, 1:40:25.479 --> 1:40:26.840 don't zoom in like that, just keep it the way 1:40:26.840 --> 1:40:28.160 it was. If you don't mind, I know you're trying 1:40:28.160 --> 1:40:28.479 to help. 1:40:28.840 --> 1:40:29.920 Less is more So. 1:40:31.400 --> 1:40:33.920 After the show, I'll go in and sort of assess 1:40:34.000 --> 1:40:37.599 my vault or whatever. Potentially have some shipped back. So 1:40:38.080 --> 1:40:40.920 depending I'm due for another shipment. So depending on how 1:40:40.920 --> 1:40:44.680 it goes today and how these two fight cards go, 1:40:45.160 --> 1:40:47.760 I might be shipping some hall but again at Anti 1:40:47.800 --> 1:40:50.519 Florian pod on either X or on Instagram if you 1:40:50.560 --> 1:40:52.839 would like to be considered for one of these cards. 1:40:52.920 --> 1:40:55.519 Right back in our second we could do in this. 1:40:55.600 --> 1:40:57.720 I had got an algabin Sterling autograph and I was 1:40:57.800 --> 1:40:59.639 just in cell mode because I'm trying to whack something 1:40:59.680 --> 1:41:02.040 for six seen hundred dollars and then would it be 1:41:02.080 --> 1:41:04.120 my money, Jay if I hit a big one or 1:41:04.160 --> 1:41:06.639 is that Matt Tanner's money if I You know, that's 1:41:06.640 --> 1:41:08.479 a good quin. I feel like we use that this 1:41:08.520 --> 1:41:11.400 platform to give back in terms of ripping open the cards, 1:41:11.439 --> 1:41:13.719 you know. But hey, it's up to you guys. Hey, John, 1:41:13.800 --> 1:41:17.320 no risk brace today, Sorry Coch, No risk brace today, 1:41:17.400 --> 1:41:20.719 No risk brace today. All right, here we go, sixty 1:41:20.800 --> 1:41:25.240 dollars for my Home of Fight exclusive MMA repack card 1:41:25.479 --> 1:41:30.080 all PSA graded. Pretty maids all in a row, right, 1:41:30.439 --> 1:41:32.639 Pretty maids all in a row from Tommy Boy talking 1:41:32.640 --> 1:41:35.840 about the cows when the cows come home, big hit, 1:41:36.120 --> 1:41:43.759 when the cows come home. I'd love me some Drino. 1:41:43.920 --> 1:41:46.679 So you're gonna get PSA ten for Dereno, you're gonna 1:41:46.680 --> 1:41:49.080 get me no matter what. Oh and we're not selling 1:41:49.120 --> 1:41:52.000 this one at twenty twenty one per refs number two 1:41:52.080 --> 1:41:56.840 sixteen Gilbert Dreen Yo burns PSA ten. They're offering me 1:41:56.880 --> 1:41:59.000 back thirty nine dollars on my sixty. I'm gonna keep 1:41:59.000 --> 1:42:06.360 it in the vault. CODs man, all nice, all right, 1:42:06.400 --> 1:42:10.080 so we'll keep Gilbert Burns and potentially for a giveaway, 1:42:10.840 --> 1:42:15.960 all right, card two of two on this very program, 1:42:15.960 --> 1:42:17.920 I've had a solid hit and also a big hit. 1:42:18.320 --> 1:42:21.080 And it'll tell you with phraseology at the top, if 1:42:21.120 --> 1:42:24.080 you have acquired a card that is either a solid 1:42:24.160 --> 1:42:24.720 or a big hit. 1:42:25.040 --> 1:42:27.160 And let me know if you open these fans I'm dying. 1:42:29.479 --> 1:42:30.320 Yeah, there you go. 1:42:30.720 --> 1:42:33.080 All right, So in twenty twenty three, Pinty select you 1:42:33.120 --> 1:42:37.040 f C number three hundred Jacks Sure Gold Disco PSA nine. 1:42:37.080 --> 1:42:39.760 They're offering me slightly more than I paid for it, 1:42:40.040 --> 1:42:42.599 so we will accept the ninety percent buy back sixty 1:42:43.080 --> 1:42:46.599 and forty four cents gives me fifty seven and change. 1:42:46.680 --> 1:42:48.919 And uh, as soon as we get off the airwaves, 1:42:48.960 --> 1:42:50.760 I will purchase another card. 1:42:50.840 --> 1:42:51.920 Dude, it's flow. 1:42:51.960 --> 1:42:54.400 It's happened twice on this show where you know the 1:42:54.479 --> 1:42:57.080 identical twin thing. It just does happen, which is why 1:42:57.120 --> 1:42:59.479 maybe John I are destined not to do shows together. 1:42:59.520 --> 1:43:01.880 But I can't tell you twice on this show the 1:43:01.960 --> 1:43:04.320 same ship. He says, I'm about to say it. I 1:43:04.360 --> 1:43:06.120 literally was about to say, Yeah, I'm gonna tell her, 1:43:06.120 --> 1:43:08.440 you're gonna go buy it. Right, and and the cauliflower 1:43:08.479 --> 1:43:11.320 ear the cauliflower ear thing was in my ear. 1:43:11.400 --> 1:43:14.679 No pun intended as well, what's your hair doing these days? 1:43:14.720 --> 1:43:22.760 You're going, oh, oh right, but. 1:43:22.800 --> 1:43:24.479 I was months. 1:43:24.479 --> 1:43:25.960 I'm ready to shave it the funk off if you 1:43:25.960 --> 1:43:26.639 want to know the truth. 1:43:27.600 --> 1:43:34.040 Hey, thanks buddy, Hey, have a great rest of your days. 1:43:34.760 --> 1:43:36.799 Jason Anak with us here on the ankin Floring Podcast. 1:43:36.880 --> 1:43:39.360 Finally, I would like to thank Kevin Burt and everybody 1:43:39.439 --> 1:43:44.080 at the fifteen and the Mahomies Golf Foundation Classic Shadow 1:43:44.080 --> 1:43:46.640 Creek Golf Course. I played some terrible golf, but I 1:43:46.680 --> 1:43:51.160 got amazing athletes and uh on day one, I did 1:43:51.160 --> 1:43:53.840 not play with Marshall Falk because he didn't show up 1:43:53.840 --> 1:43:55.320 to the practice round. But if you don't know one 1:43:55.360 --> 1:43:57.439 of the greatest running backs and greatest football players of 1:43:57.439 --> 1:43:59.840 all time, and I go out and it says Marshall 1:44:00.040 --> 1:44:01.679 walk John Anne, because if we're going to be sharing 1:44:01.680 --> 1:44:04.559 a golf cart together, but the actor comedian Anthony Anderson 1:44:04.600 --> 1:44:06.840 just a tremendous individual. Rober Riggle I got to ride 1:44:06.840 --> 1:44:09.400 in a golf cart with on practice round day and 1:44:09.880 --> 1:44:12.920 just some tremendous golfers and professional athletes and all for 1:44:12.960 --> 1:44:16.360 a good cause, and I wanted to thank those people. 1:44:16.400 --> 1:44:18.200 Want to thank Ray Longo and r. J. Clifford and 1:44:18.240 --> 1:44:20.920 Jason Anak and Cody Marrow and Nathan Bronson and everybody 1:44:21.240 --> 1:44:23.320 behind the scenes at the Anak and Florian podcast. 1:44:23.560 --> 1:44:24.360 Happy birthday to. 1:44:24.400 --> 1:44:27.840 Cody and to Raymond Peter Longo, but mostly to the 1:44:27.920 --> 1:44:31.200 fifty Burger. Next time we talked to you, Ken Flow 1:44:31.240 --> 1:44:34.360 will be fifty. It'll be the first of June. We 1:44:34.439 --> 1:44:37.719 hope everybody has a good long weekend and a great 1:44:37.760 --> 1:44:40.519 Memorial Day. And thanks to all that have served this 1:44:40.560 --> 1:44:42.880 country past and present, and we will be back to 1:44:42.920 --> 1:44:45.800 you on the first of June. For kem Flum John 1:44:45.800 --> 1:44:48.599 and thanks for watching listen. Tell your friends you'll letter