1 00:00:01,960 --> 00:00:08,039 Speaker 1: This is Unbreakable with Jay Glacier, a mental wealth podcast 2 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:11,320 Speaker 1: build you from the inside out. 3 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:13,680 Speaker 2: Now here's Jay Glacier. 4 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:17,200 Speaker 1: Welcome into Unbreakable mental Wealth podcast with Jay Lazer. I'm 5 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:20,040 Speaker 1: Jay Glazer and look it's we just had Veterans Day. 6 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:22,920 Speaker 1: And every year Veterans Day, I try and bring in 7 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:26,000 Speaker 1: a veteran who will have so much respect for we'll 8 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 1: have toun of love for. 9 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:30,440 Speaker 2: In the past, we've had on Brian Stan, We've. 10 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:33,199 Speaker 1: Had on Kirstyennis Well, We've had on Doc Jacobs, We've 11 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:35,160 Speaker 1: had on some people with just amazing people. 12 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:36,600 Speaker 2: And this year we're. 13 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 1: Following suit longtime Army ranger on here named j. C. 14 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:42,880 Speaker 1: Glick who has done jac How many tours? 15 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 3: Get eleven combat tours? 16 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:45,320 Speaker 2: How long were you in for? 17 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:46,640 Speaker 3: Twenty years? 18 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:47,560 Speaker 2: Twenty years? 19 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:50,559 Speaker 1: Talking about a guy who loves his country, serves his country, 20 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:53,599 Speaker 1: but he is a warrior. But he's much a warrior. 21 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 1: The physical part is he is from his heart in 22 00:00:56,480 --> 00:00:58,720 Speaker 1: between his ears, and he and I really leaned a 23 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 1: lot on each other over the year, trying to help 24 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 1: out veterans, trying to help guys in transition, trying to 25 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:06,440 Speaker 1: help guys who are still active deal with you know 26 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:10,680 Speaker 1: what goes on behind your ribcage, with your the actions 27 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 1: of being a veteran, and then what happens after the 28 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 1: uniform comes off? 29 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:16,040 Speaker 2: Where do you go? So man, I'm so proud to 30 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 2: call you brother. Have you have you on here? 31 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 4: Man? 32 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:20,760 Speaker 2: One of my favorite humans in the world. By the way, Jase, 33 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 2: how big are you? Six? 34 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 3: Yeah? 35 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 2: Six? Three two? Get bigger than that six? 36 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:28,840 Speaker 3: I like that you think I'm bigger than that. 37 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 1: That makes me do Before he lifts his ass off 38 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 1: plays lacrosse, I'm like, I won't want this motherfucker hitting 39 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 1: you with a lacrosse stick and come a barrel and 40 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 1: I may shit. So welcome in, brother, Welcome in. Been 41 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:40,319 Speaker 1: too long, it. 42 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 3: Has it has. Thank you for thank you for having me. 43 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 5: And you know I would be remiss if I didn't 44 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 5: say thank you for all that you do. And it's 45 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 5: not just for veterans. You do for everybody, but I'm 46 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 5: gonna specifically say for veterans. You're You're an incredibly generous 47 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 5: human being. You care, you know more than anybody that 48 00:01:57,440 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 5: I've met. You know, in your position, you you really 49 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 5: give and I and even this podcast, right, it's about 50 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 5: helping others, you know, it's that lift while you climb piece, 51 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:08,839 Speaker 5: that that you know we talk about all the time, 52 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:09,919 Speaker 5: and I love that about you. 53 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:12,400 Speaker 2: Thank you, brother, I appreciate it. Well, look, hey, we 54 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 2: are on Veterans' Day. 55 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 1: And I always had a Veteran's Day message of hey, 56 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 1: this holiday is about you, so we should celebrate you. 57 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 1: And what I used to do with my events is 58 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:26,520 Speaker 1: i'd say, hey, give me something you could celebrate about yourself. 59 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:27,919 Speaker 2: Right, we're all celebrating. 60 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 1: It is a holiday for you, so give me something 61 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 1: you can celebrate about yourself. 62 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:33,959 Speaker 2: And JAC used to have the hardest time with this question. 63 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 1: Right, Well, like you just because you're not in brain 64 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 1: and like I know, our vets don't do this for glory. 65 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:44,240 Speaker 1: In fact, it's the other way around. We don't want 66 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 1: the attention, right the guys who are doing it for 67 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 1: the right reasons. But I said, man, it's going to 68 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 1: be a harder existence if you're moving forward, if you 69 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 1: don't have those things that you're proud of. We've got 70 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:54,600 Speaker 1: to figure out what you could be proud of, whether 71 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:58,359 Speaker 1: that's teammates, whether that's people you've saved, whether that's relationships 72 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 1: after whether it's just something you accomplished right, there's so 73 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 1: many things you. 74 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 2: Can be proud of. Then you got there to me, 75 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:07,520 Speaker 2: but you got there. 76 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 5: Right, I did, I did, I did, and I'm I'm 77 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 5: I'm really proud of the you know, the units that 78 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:15,799 Speaker 5: I come from, the units that built me, and what 79 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 5: I can do now with what the foundations that they 80 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:21,680 Speaker 5: gave me. I'm proud that I can continue. You know, 81 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:24,960 Speaker 5: I've been saying a lot recently. I got it from 82 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 5: a friend of mine who runs a National Veterans Memorial museum. 83 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:30,800 Speaker 5: You don't have to wear a uniform and serve to 84 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 5: serve your nation, right, Serving your community is serving your nation, 85 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 5: and so that idea of like services over when the 86 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 5: uniform comes off. 87 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 3: It's not. 88 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 5: And that's what I'm really proud of, right, is that 89 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 5: I got to continue to serve even after all that 90 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 5: stuff came off, and it's beautiful. 91 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 1: And also, I think a guy like you, who has 92 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 1: led so many of our men and women in the military, 93 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:54,280 Speaker 1: I think that's the thing you think, Oh man, I 94 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 1: can't lead me more what you can. There's so many 95 00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 1: other ways where you could take what you use in 96 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 1: the military and leave lead moving forward. 97 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 5: Absolutely absolutely, it's one of the things that that people 98 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 5: have to understand that when they transition, right, they they 99 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 5: don't need an MBA. They've got the you know, the 100 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 5: military Business administration degree, right. I mean, they've led more 101 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:17,640 Speaker 5: people the most senior vice presidents have. You know, we've 102 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 5: we've just got to get the public to understand that, 103 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 5: you know, hiring a veteran, you're not doing them a favor. 104 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 5: They're making your organization better. You're doing yourself a favor. 105 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:27,680 Speaker 5: You're doing your organization a favor. 106 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:29,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, And you know this used to draw 107 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 1: me crazy because we couldn't get vets hired because they're 108 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:34,719 Speaker 1: ingrained not to talk about it. 109 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:37,840 Speaker 2: So while everybody else is lying on the resume, you 110 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:39,040 Speaker 2: guys have been on the other way. 111 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:41,240 Speaker 1: Well, how are we supposed to get your job if 112 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 1: you're dumbing down what you're saying? So, I think jac 113 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:46,279 Speaker 1: that's one of the biggest uphill challenges we have is 114 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 1: to get our vets to be proud of what they've 115 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 1: done and then be able to put it on paper. 116 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 2: Yeah. 117 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:53,840 Speaker 1: Hey, like, look, we just had one of the leaders 118 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 1: of Delta kim to me that I met through you, 119 00:04:56,080 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 1: and they was so innocuous. I'm like, bro, I can't 120 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:02,920 Speaker 1: get you a leadership job, but you led the most 121 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:06,839 Speaker 1: elite killing force on the planet. You set up safehouses 122 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:10,279 Speaker 1: right under El Kada. You have extracted people when nobody 123 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 1: else can. And your resume looks like you're, you know, 124 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 1: coming out of University of Michigan trying to get an 125 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 1: entry level job. He's like, well, I can't talk about 126 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 1: this stuff. We got to figure out a when you can. Hey, 127 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:23,040 Speaker 1: I led the most elite team in the world, with 128 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:25,360 Speaker 1: the most calm under chaos. 129 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:26,479 Speaker 2: You could imagine. 130 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 1: Our structure was this, our scheduling was this, our organization 131 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 1: was this. We accomplished this, then you could do it. 132 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 1: But Jacy was so hard for me age him to 133 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 1: do that. 134 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 5: It's impa and that's you know, I spend most of 135 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:40,800 Speaker 5: my time. We hear a young lady a week ago. 136 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:42,920 Speaker 5: I was with that guy last night, by the way, 137 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 5: but where I was, we had a lady going out 138 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 5: and she, you know, she's talking, she's talking, and she's like, 139 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 5: why was a ship driver? 140 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 3: I said, stop it. 141 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 5: If you commanded a two billion dollar piece of national strategy, 142 00:05:57,960 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 5: stop with I was a ship driver. It's ludicrous. You 143 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 5: were how many? How many are there? She's like, well, 144 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:08,360 Speaker 5: less than one hundred. I'm like, yeah, like less than fifty, right, 145 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 5: So how could you say that you were selected to 146 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:14,599 Speaker 5: do this? Tell people it's it is, it's the it's 147 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 5: the toughest piece that we that we have to convince 148 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:19,160 Speaker 5: these folks. And you know, we're getting better at it. 149 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:22,800 Speaker 5: We're getting better at explaining, like, hey, look, the values, 150 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 5: the things that you're coming out with are already awesome, 151 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 5: and you got to tell people that they're awesome because 152 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:30,720 Speaker 5: it's what they want in their organizations. Everybody's saying, I 153 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 5: don't have team players, I don't have people that collaborate. 154 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 5: I don't have people that are mission focused. Yeah, military 155 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:41,039 Speaker 5: folks are, and you know, for whatever reason, in the 156 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 5: civilian world we think, oh, we're doing them a favor 157 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 5: and they're low skilled and they can work for you know, 158 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:50,600 Speaker 5: minimum wage, and I'm like, no, these are people who 159 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 5: who need to be put in leadership positions of the 160 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 5: highest caliber. 161 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 2: Absolutely. 162 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:58,160 Speaker 1: And you know, it's funny back to this, like we 163 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 1: had a Navy special warfare who stole internet right under 164 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:07,040 Speaker 1: Alcava's nose to set up safe houses, and. 165 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 2: When he came back here couldn't get an IT job. 166 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 2: Which is sad, ridiculous, not acceptable, but. 167 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 1: He didn't know how to explain what he did or 168 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 1: feel comfortable. And like, listen, who if I have a company, 169 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:22,960 Speaker 1: I need an IT guy. Am I taking the kid 170 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 1: from Stanford? Who Stanford's big? Or? Am I taking the 171 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 1: guy who stole internet right from Alcatta and set up 172 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 1: a safe house to keep people safe? That's why I'm 173 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:35,640 Speaker 1: grabbing it. How do we get guys jac to start 174 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 1: being able to describe what they've done better for the workforce? 175 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 1: How can we get them to move forward better? Like, Hey, 176 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 1: I did this and this and this, so that's why 177 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:48,080 Speaker 1: I'm better shooting for this job at anybody else. 178 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 5: So I think I think there's there's three pieces. Is 179 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:54,920 Speaker 5: We've got to help them with identity. Okay, because when 180 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 5: we're in the military, identity is wrapped in and what 181 00:07:57,400 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 5: we did. And so I it was a special operations guy. 182 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 5: I this is who I was. Now we've got to 183 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 5: show you know all the things that make you who 184 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:08,240 Speaker 5: you are allowed you to do that. So you're loyal, 185 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 5: and you're smart, and you're adaptive and you're a problem solver. 186 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 5: And so we've got to teach them to identify who 187 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 5: they are, and then we've got to help them with purpose. Right, 188 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:22,680 Speaker 5: So we had this grandiose idea of purpose, like support 189 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 5: and de fund the Constitution in the States, kill. 190 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 3: You know, enemies. That's what we do. 191 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 5: Yeah, Well, sometimes we also wax floors and sometimes we 192 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:33,440 Speaker 5: also pull guard duty, and we do a bunch of 193 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 5: like that stuff. So it's about, hey, how do we 194 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:40,080 Speaker 5: show that your purpose is in every single moment and 195 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:42,559 Speaker 5: so that you're not looking for some grandiose purpose, you're 196 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:46,280 Speaker 5: experiencing purpose. And it's you know, as I was telling 197 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:48,560 Speaker 5: you before, I think it's something that you've done really 198 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 5: well this last year. As I see you, you know, 199 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:54,200 Speaker 5: as I see you interact with the community around you, 200 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:58,600 Speaker 5: is you find purpose in every single moment. If you're 201 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:00,959 Speaker 5: talking to me, your purpose is right now, if you're 202 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:03,680 Speaker 5: hanging out with Rosie, it's ay. My purpose is to 203 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 5: be the best husband I can. If you're if you're 204 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:08,080 Speaker 5: on set, it's my purpose is to be the best 205 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 5: reporter and best teammate for the guys that I work with. 206 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:14,840 Speaker 5: And that's that's what we bring and it's what we do. 207 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:17,319 Speaker 5: And we've just got to convince people. No, Yeah, your 208 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 5: purpose hasn't changed. You're still trying to make everything better 209 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:22,040 Speaker 5: than when you found it. And then the last piece. 210 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:26,120 Speaker 5: And you've been such a big player in this is tribe. 211 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 5: We've got to let them know they're not alone because 212 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 5: you get out in the out of the military and 213 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:35,679 Speaker 5: people aren't like us. They're not built like us. I mean, 214 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:37,960 Speaker 5: the military has built us a certain way to be. 215 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:41,680 Speaker 5: You know, we guys, not me guys. And you got 216 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 5: to find all those we guys and there's lots of 217 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 5: them out there, and they didn't all serve you. 218 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:48,080 Speaker 3: You're a we guy, You're not a me guy. 219 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 5: And that's what we've got to go do because me 220 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 5: guys don't survive in the military, and the truth is 221 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 5: me guys shouldn't survive very well in the civilian world. 222 00:09:57,640 --> 00:10:00,240 Speaker 5: They do, but we've got to we've got to create 223 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:02,520 Speaker 5: a community that's filled with wei. 224 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 1: You're right, like once the uniform comes off, your badass 225 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 1: where he doesn't just leave. 226 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:10,679 Speaker 2: It's not like badass. It's not because of the uniform. 227 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 1: It's I always say, right, we're spos to find your 228 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 1: ribcage that got you to be that, that goes on 229 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 1: forever and ever the uniform comes off now and people 230 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:20,080 Speaker 1: are like, oh, man, I used to do this or 231 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:22,600 Speaker 1: I used to do that and used to I'm always like, no, motherfucker, 232 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 1: you did this, and that's different. I had a sing 233 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 1: with jac and I we with a foundation we work 234 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:31,560 Speaker 1: with called it said, uh, motherfucker, I'm different. The first 235 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:33,720 Speaker 1: thing you said when you're in there, motherfucker, I'm different. 236 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:36,960 Speaker 1: Damn right, you're different. Different is good. Different leads to success. 237 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 1: And I think too many events come back home and 238 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 1: they just try and fit in. Don't be a face 239 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:44,319 Speaker 1: in the crowd, be a crowd, be your own fucking crowd. 240 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 5: Well, And unfortunately that's one of the problems that we 241 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 5: have is all the programs are set up to help 242 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:51,439 Speaker 5: people find a job, and to find a job, they 243 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 5: tell you you got to fit in. You got to 244 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:56,280 Speaker 5: adapt to the way it is in the civilian world. No, 245 00:10:56,400 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 5: you got to understand the way it is in the 246 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:01,680 Speaker 5: civilian world. Don't change who you are, because what made 247 00:11:01,679 --> 00:11:04,439 Speaker 5: you great there is going to make you great everywhere. 248 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:07,200 Speaker 1: Give me the most badass mission that you did while 249 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 1: you were serving, that you could talk about that, You're like, man, 250 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 1: I'm proud of that. 251 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:15,600 Speaker 3: That was awesome, all right, I actually, this is really easy. 252 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:20,319 Speaker 5: We were I was a commander of a strike force, 253 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 5: the National Strike Force in Afghanistan. We were going after 254 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:30,199 Speaker 5: a high value target. It was a huge target snow 255 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:34,760 Speaker 5: on the ground. We went in. It was a significant 256 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 5: firefight going in closes. I ever thought to probably you know, 257 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:41,360 Speaker 5: buying it. I thought, okay, well this might be it. 258 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 5: The guys, the guys fought cleared this place. I mean, 259 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:48,840 Speaker 5: they were amazing, right, they killed it. They we got 260 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:52,719 Speaker 5: all these guys. But we consolidate on the target. We 261 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:56,559 Speaker 5: consolidate one place where we put the military age males, 262 00:11:56,880 --> 00:12:00,200 Speaker 5: and then where we put the women and children in 263 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:02,720 Speaker 5: a separate place. And I was waiting for the women 264 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:06,119 Speaker 5: and children. And it was big. It was a big compound. 265 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 5: But it was taking a really long time. And look 266 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:12,400 Speaker 5: we got people were actually watching this in DC. They 267 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:14,839 Speaker 5: were watching what we were doing. And look, we've got 268 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:18,480 Speaker 5: aircraft in the air like we're on a timeline. Stuff's 269 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 5: going to run out of fuel. It's take a long time. 270 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:23,200 Speaker 5: And I'm trying to have patients. I'm trying to have patients, 271 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:26,559 Speaker 5: and I'm just about to call and say, hey, where 272 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:30,640 Speaker 5: are you? And on the ridge, I see these rangers 273 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 5: and one's pulling security and like another one has like 274 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:36,200 Speaker 5: two kids in his arms, and then other one's got 275 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 5: a woman on his back and a kid in front, 276 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:41,240 Speaker 5: and they're carrying these women and children through the snow 277 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:44,679 Speaker 5: and they bring them to my spot, and the squad 278 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 5: leader just comes to me and goes, they didn't have shoes, 279 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:50,959 Speaker 5: and I went wow, right, And so so you sit 280 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:53,760 Speaker 5: there and you think these guys were just they were 281 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 5: they were doing God's work. They were just in this 282 00:12:56,200 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 5: incredible firefight. And then they saw that the women in 283 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 5: chldren didn't have shoes, so they didn't make them walk 284 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:05,160 Speaker 5: through the snow. They carried them. And had they walked 285 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:06,960 Speaker 5: them through the snow, I never would have thought about it. 286 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 5: We've been like, hey, we got a time to go. 287 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:12,079 Speaker 5: But they knew now that's that's not the right thing 288 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 5: to do. They did the right thing. And I had 289 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:18,439 Speaker 5: never been more proud of a group of individuals before 290 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 5: in my life. 291 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:19,800 Speaker 1: Yeah. 292 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:24,439 Speaker 2: That is so cool, man, that's awesome. I love it. 293 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:26,360 Speaker 2: And yeah, I've heard a lot of the story too 294 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 2: for you guys. 295 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:29,480 Speaker 1: When when I ask you guys, what you're most proud of, 296 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:31,079 Speaker 1: a lot of times it was like, hey, we put 297 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:34,320 Speaker 1: sandals on these children in Afghanistan, the first time they've 298 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 1: ever had shoes, you know, when we liberated this little towner, 299 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 1: you know, something they've done for a family who had 300 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 1: been an enemy combatant. 301 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:43,199 Speaker 2: But the human side came out. It's pretty well. 302 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:47,400 Speaker 5: Look, that's That's what makes our fighting force amazing, is that? 303 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 5: And what makes us different as a nation. Right, We 304 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 5: don't fight and kill out of hate or anger. We 305 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:56,600 Speaker 5: fight and kill because that's our job. And then when 306 00:13:56,600 --> 00:14:00,840 Speaker 5: that's over, our job is to take care of people. 307 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:04,839 Speaker 5: And and I'll tell you these these I mean, to 308 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:10,080 Speaker 5: a person, everyone an absolute warrior, like a dude you 309 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 5: would not want to fuck with. And yet they just 310 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 5: did the right thing at the right time, for the 311 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 5: right reason when nobody, nobody would have said anything if 312 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 5: they didn't. 313 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:24,400 Speaker 2: That's cool, man, that is awesome. I love that. Tell 314 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 2: what else I'm working on it lately. 315 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 5: Well, you know, so I'm the CEO of the Commit Foundation, 316 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:31,920 Speaker 5: which takes you know, the top five percent. So we 317 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:34,720 Speaker 5: get about two hundred thousand veterans get out every year. 318 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:37,880 Speaker 5: Will Commit serves about the top five percent of those 319 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:41,600 Speaker 5: that get out that want their next chapter to be 320 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:43,600 Speaker 5: better than their last. They want to have impact on 321 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:46,680 Speaker 5: the world, they want to continue to serve, and we 322 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:50,760 Speaker 5: help them find we help them design their. 323 00:14:50,640 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 3: Life for the future. 324 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:57,760 Speaker 5: Right, So we we work on identity, purpose, community, and service. 325 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:00,200 Speaker 3: So we invest. We invest about. 326 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 5: Twenty k into each individual to start into each individual 327 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 5: participant and then we're a lifeline, lifetime organization. So let's say, 328 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 5: you know, you get out, you start working for Deloitte, 329 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:14,680 Speaker 5: and you're killing it Deloitte, and you go, I don't 330 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:15,760 Speaker 5: want to do this anymore. I want to go to 331 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:19,040 Speaker 5: the NFL. Okay, come back. We do a little bit 332 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 5: more coaching and we connect you with folks so you 333 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:24,600 Speaker 5: can go to the NFL. And you know, we want 334 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 5: to make sure that great leaders continue to get to 335 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:31,920 Speaker 5: be great leaders elsewhere. Right, So they were great leaders someplace, well, 336 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:34,400 Speaker 5: now let's let them get great leaders elsewhere. And I 337 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 5: think that's really important. So we helped set the conditions 338 00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:40,560 Speaker 5: to do that. You know, personally, I'm I'm going to school. 339 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:42,600 Speaker 5: I went back to school to get to get a 340 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:46,160 Speaker 5: doctorate at Columbia University, which has the most veterans of 341 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 5: any Ivy League school of any school in the country. 342 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:55,080 Speaker 5: Finished a third book, doing a lot of writing to 343 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:58,200 Speaker 5: try to try to convince people that we're all in 344 00:15:58,240 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 5: this together. 345 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:01,960 Speaker 2: Love it. I love it. Yeah, you've always been like this. 346 00:16:02,040 --> 00:16:04,280 Speaker 1: And again Jac and I we've done a lot of 347 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 1: life coaching, if you will, for the foundation we're part 348 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 1: of called MVP, and then just outside of that also 349 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:11,560 Speaker 1: he's got a lot of guys that he's linked up 350 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:13,920 Speaker 1: with me and it is and jac knows it has 351 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:18,560 Speaker 1: always been I need that you're saying, I need that purpose. 352 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 1: But for me, being of service is one of the 353 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:24,080 Speaker 1: things that helps me between the years. He gets the 354 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:26,800 Speaker 1: roommates in my head to not tell me that I'm 355 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:29,320 Speaker 1: such a piece of shit all the time. So by 356 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 1: being able to work with veterans constantly trying to again 357 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:36,960 Speaker 1: teach guys, hey man, your experiences. You got to use 358 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 1: this for your next step of life. And you you know, 359 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 1: one of the first guys that were helped Bill at Ruiz. 360 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 1: I'm like, why are you looking always looked down? And 361 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:45,560 Speaker 1: he's like, well, man, you know, my wife has to 362 00:16:45,560 --> 00:16:48,000 Speaker 1: put my pants on me. I'd saved these American POWs. 363 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:51,640 Speaker 2: Whoa whoa, whoa whoa. You saved the American POWs. Remember 364 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 2: I was like, Hey, Elliott, from now on, motherfucker, you're different. 365 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:57,880 Speaker 1: You look at us above us, above my eye line 366 00:16:57,920 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 1: because you're different than everybody else. 367 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:01,320 Speaker 2: What am I just supposed to change the way of 368 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:04,719 Speaker 2: viewing myself? Yeah? Today? Now it takes a second second, right, 369 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:06,240 Speaker 2: And he did. He was able to. 370 00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:08,879 Speaker 1: But the gift that you've all given me where I 371 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:12,359 Speaker 1: could help lift up veterans. And I'll tell you this too, Jesse. 372 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:15,520 Speaker 1: I just got an a war of the American Legion 373 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:16,399 Speaker 1: and I told. 374 00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:18,560 Speaker 3: Oh that congratulations, And. 375 00:17:18,520 --> 00:17:20,760 Speaker 1: I told everybody there, and it's worth more for the 376 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:23,960 Speaker 1: mental health stuff that I've done, And I said, open 377 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:26,679 Speaker 1: up to a bunch of combat vets. Gave me the 378 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:29,080 Speaker 1: courage to open up to the world. Like, had I 379 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:32,359 Speaker 1: not done that with all you guys, I don't know 380 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:32,680 Speaker 1: if I. 381 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:34,320 Speaker 2: Would have done it with everybody else. 382 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:36,960 Speaker 1: But the fact that you guys embraced it and learned 383 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:40,200 Speaker 1: from it and like oh fuck, like you know, didn't 384 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:43,439 Speaker 1: show me or embarrass me or shame me over it. Truly, 385 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:46,080 Speaker 1: you guys were gaining the courage to then go talk 386 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:48,320 Speaker 1: about it to the world and give the mental health 387 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:49,720 Speaker 1: words to the entire world. 388 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 2: It all came from you guys. 389 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:53,760 Speaker 5: Now, well, you know you had the strength to do it. 390 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:55,600 Speaker 5: You had the strength to do it, and that's something 391 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:59,160 Speaker 5: that you know somebody. I was just given a talk 392 00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:02,159 Speaker 5: just today and you know, I shared about, you know, 393 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:06,119 Speaker 5: my four suicide attempts. And you know, one of my 394 00:18:06,119 --> 00:18:08,200 Speaker 5: folks said, hey, does it get any easier every time 395 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:11,159 Speaker 5: you share it? And I said, it doesn't, But it 396 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:14,120 Speaker 5: gets more important every time I share it, because if 397 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 5: I'm sharing it somebody else who might feel that way, 398 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:21,480 Speaker 5: it gives them the courage to speak their truth. And 399 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:24,920 Speaker 5: I think, look, you're not alone. I mean, I think 400 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:27,600 Speaker 5: you can get in that space where the voices in 401 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:29,919 Speaker 5: your head are telling you that you're jacked up and 402 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:32,639 Speaker 5: there's something wrong with you and why are you thinking 403 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 5: this way? 404 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:34,120 Speaker 2: Man? 405 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 5: So many of us are struggling with with life. Life is. 406 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:40,560 Speaker 5: Life is complex, It's got a lot of chip to it. 407 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:44,239 Speaker 5: And we're soft, goushy things. And you know, we can 408 00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:47,360 Speaker 5: pretend it like stuff doesn't bother us. But it's okay 409 00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:49,240 Speaker 5: to say, no, I was. I was in a bad 410 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:52,840 Speaker 5: spot because the idea of the human existence is to 411 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:56,640 Speaker 5: get iteratively better. Right, your job, you see your job 412 00:18:56,680 --> 00:18:58,880 Speaker 5: as how do I make sure other people don't fall 413 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:01,399 Speaker 5: into the trap that I was in. I see it 414 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:03,679 Speaker 5: the same way. How do I make sure that you know, 415 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:06,639 Speaker 5: the next guy who's getting out doesn't struggle with the 416 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:07,840 Speaker 5: same things I struggled with. 417 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 2: My pain is to help others through theirs. 418 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:12,040 Speaker 1: And for a long time I just felt I was 419 00:19:12,040 --> 00:19:14,720 Speaker 1: cursed and I had this crazy thing like the universes 420 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 1: against me, and and Universe and God. 421 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:20,520 Speaker 2: Are for us. They're not against us. But the roommates 422 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:21,760 Speaker 2: in your head don't tell you that a lot. 423 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:26,479 Speaker 4: And once I I was in Thailand actually or kind 424 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:29,920 Speaker 4: of would learn this meditation for these monks, and and 425 00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:31,959 Speaker 4: once it kind of slowed down, I looked at him 426 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:35,480 Speaker 4: like I literally got like a It was my voice, 427 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:37,800 Speaker 4: but it was like a voice like, hey, listen, no 428 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:39,400 Speaker 4: one's against you. 429 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:40,919 Speaker 2: You had to go through this pain so you can 430 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:43,439 Speaker 2: help others with THEIRS. And I was like wow. 431 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:46,160 Speaker 1: And then the voice said and at the same time, 432 00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 1: we need you to see we made all your other 433 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:53,400 Speaker 1: dreams come true to keep you afloat. And that was powerful, 434 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:55,480 Speaker 1: you know, because when you get down like that again, 435 00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:59,199 Speaker 1: you've had suicide attempts. I've had suicide, you know, suicidid 436 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:03,160 Speaker 1: ideologies just without sky has fallen. 437 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:04,080 Speaker 2: That sky has fallen. 438 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:06,840 Speaker 1: So to be able to hear that from me, like, man, 439 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:09,719 Speaker 1: you're and the crazy shit is like, I know, my 440 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:13,440 Speaker 1: life is great, just between my ears sucks successful, right, 441 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:16,520 Speaker 1: and it's unfortunately those voices get a little bit too loud, 442 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:19,360 Speaker 1: But I think that's what our pain is there for Jess, 443 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:22,520 Speaker 1: you've had your four suitt attempts and you were able 444 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:25,560 Speaker 1: to because you've had that, I guarantee you prevented at 445 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:27,840 Speaker 1: least one person from doing as a result talking about it, 446 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:29,280 Speaker 1: and there's way more than one. 447 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:30,720 Speaker 3: I hope, So I hope. 448 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:33,440 Speaker 5: So I think that I think that we get an 449 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 5: image for you know, here's this here's this guy who's 450 00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 5: successful who's on TV all the time, or here's this 451 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:42,119 Speaker 5: guy who's this big ranger who's done a lot and 452 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 5: commanded at the highest levels. And I think, you know, 453 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:47,359 Speaker 5: they see the very top of the iceberg. They don't 454 00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:50,240 Speaker 5: see all the stuff that built that. And you know, 455 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:52,080 Speaker 5: I tell people all the time, you know, two of 456 00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:54,520 Speaker 5: my suicide attempts, I was making more money than I 457 00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:56,520 Speaker 5: ever thought i'd make. I was doing stuff that I 458 00:20:56,600 --> 00:20:59,200 Speaker 5: never thought i'd do. And but I didn't know who 459 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:01,520 Speaker 5: I was, and I knew I did. I didn't know 460 00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 5: how to be, you know, a good dad. I didn't 461 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 5: know how to be a good partner. I didn't know 462 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:08,399 Speaker 5: how to do all those things. And you know, you 463 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:11,720 Speaker 5: feel like a failure. And I think you know now 464 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:14,480 Speaker 5: we're all just trying to figure out how to How 465 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:16,320 Speaker 5: am I the best partner I can be to my 466 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:19,960 Speaker 5: significant other? How how can I provide the best guidance 467 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:23,399 Speaker 5: I can to you know, my kids? And you know 468 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:25,520 Speaker 5: I don't need to be an example to them. I 469 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:28,320 Speaker 5: need to be able to give them guidance from the 470 00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:30,960 Speaker 5: mistakes that I've made, you know, And how do I 471 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:33,320 Speaker 5: do that for my you know, fellow veterans that you 472 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:36,240 Speaker 5: know we're lucky enough to have served, you know, five 473 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:38,920 Speaker 5: thousand and these are all people who I think are 474 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:43,320 Speaker 5: way better than me. They're amazing, they're like they're they're unbelievable. 475 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:46,800 Speaker 5: And if we can help them feel the same kind 476 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:50,439 Speaker 5: of joy, not happiness, the joy right you chase happiness. 477 00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:54,840 Speaker 5: Joy is internal and sometimes sometimes you're sad. Sometimes bad 478 00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:57,919 Speaker 5: shit happens and you feel bad, and that's okay. But 479 00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:00,560 Speaker 5: as long as that joy you know. I can look 480 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:02,359 Speaker 5: I can look at my wife Jen and be like, 481 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:05,359 Speaker 5: oh my god, I am I am so happy. I 482 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:08,000 Speaker 5: can look at my kids and they're happy, and and 483 00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:10,480 Speaker 5: you sit there and you're like, okay, I have this joy. 484 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:13,840 Speaker 5: So even when it's bad, now I go, yeah, but oh, 485 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:15,760 Speaker 5: pro like this is good. 486 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:20,320 Speaker 1: I had an NFL player recently say to me, Jay, 487 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:22,200 Speaker 1: please tell me this light at the end of the tunnel. 488 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:24,639 Speaker 2: I said, what do you mean? It was pretty pretty strong. 489 00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:27,120 Speaker 2: This is actually in front of his entire team. 490 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 1: I came into the mental health talk about this unbreakable 491 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:32,760 Speaker 1: mindset of Hey, when you're on the football field or 492 00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:35,119 Speaker 1: you're in that cage, if I'm hurt or tired, you 493 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:39,560 Speaker 1: will fucking never ever ever, No, you'll never see our 494 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:41,720 Speaker 1: guys in our hands on our hips, you'll never see 495 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:43,840 Speaker 1: us up and bump, you'll never see you go fucking 496 00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:46,159 Speaker 1: tap out ever in between rounds, and we don't take 497 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:48,760 Speaker 1: a stool. But it's the same mentality. It gets people 498 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:51,600 Speaker 1: like me want to throw ourselves off a bridge, away 499 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:54,240 Speaker 1: from field or away from a cage, and like, I 500 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 1: need to do the opposite. 501 00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 2: I need us. 502 00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:57,840 Speaker 1: You got to talk about it, You got to open 503 00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:00,560 Speaker 1: up but also when you open up to your he's like, 504 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:02,840 Speaker 1: you know, you and I become brothers. We would go 505 00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 1: from friends to brothers when we start talking about this. 506 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:09,240 Speaker 1: Those are bonds, right. So I start talking about this 507 00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:12,200 Speaker 1: in front of this team and I'm telling them about like, hey, 508 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:15,560 Speaker 1: if you guys are like nervous, like I can't do that, 509 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:17,920 Speaker 1: I be ashamed. I tell him the first time I 510 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:20,639 Speaker 1: ever wrote, what about mental health? Mercedes Lewis, so I 511 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:24,000 Speaker 1: trained for fifteen years. First text, two minutes later put 512 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 1: on social media. I was horrid, fact to social media, 513 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:31,119 Speaker 1: and he said, coach, I knew you were crazy and 514 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:33,639 Speaker 1: it's a badge of honor in football fighting, but I 515 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:37,240 Speaker 1: didn't know you in pain. I'm sorry I got you. 516 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:40,359 Speaker 1: And there's not been a fucking week since when he 517 00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:42,280 Speaker 1: does not call to a mental health check upon me. 518 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 1: Doesn't sound like you're shamed me or stray hand said 519 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:46,479 Speaker 1: to me, why have you never told me? 520 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:48,199 Speaker 2: I said, I was fucking ashamed of you. 521 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:50,560 Speaker 1: He said, yeah, but you took away my chance to 522 00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 1: be your best friend for thirty years, right, think about that. 523 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:56,520 Speaker 2: So we're not a nuisance people. So this kid says 524 00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:57,800 Speaker 2: to me, please tell. 525 00:23:57,680 --> 00:23:59,120 Speaker 1: Me his life at the other time from the whole 526 00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:03,159 Speaker 1: team says, I try to kill myself two months ago 527 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:05,840 Speaker 1: in front of this whole team, which is never done 528 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:07,560 Speaker 1: inside an NFL locker room. 529 00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:11,440 Speaker 2: Many dudes get up, come over, man, we got you, bro, 530 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:15,680 Speaker 2: we got He's crying. They're crying, man, we got you. Well. 531 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 1: My answer to him was, the light at the end 532 00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:22,480 Speaker 1: of the tunnel is exactly what you and I are 533 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:25,439 Speaker 1: talking about here at jac say. You just saying that 534 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:28,439 Speaker 1: in this room you may just saved someone's life. You 535 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:31,359 Speaker 1: don't know, but you may have just saved someone's life, right, 536 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:35,160 Speaker 1: And I said, but more than anything, your pain, if 537 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:37,679 Speaker 1: you could share it with others, with others, it's going 538 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:38,960 Speaker 1: to help them through theirs. 539 00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:40,879 Speaker 2: I said, there's the crazy stop. 540 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:44,399 Speaker 1: No, no, the romates in my head, never fucking you 541 00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:47,120 Speaker 1: sit down a dinner table to eat nicely together. No, 542 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:49,520 Speaker 1: it says not how it is, right, but man, you 543 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:52,360 Speaker 1: could save so many other people with that pain. And 544 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:54,880 Speaker 1: again I know, like there's so many people. As players 545 00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:57,680 Speaker 1: came up to me after going mister Wheeler's talk we 546 00:24:57,760 --> 00:24:58,200 Speaker 1: ever heard. 547 00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:01,000 Speaker 2: We always get like therapists in this that talk therapy. 548 00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:03,760 Speaker 1: It's like we need that, but we need real tooth 549 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:06,240 Speaker 1: to know what really goes on with everybody else. And 550 00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:09,880 Speaker 1: again that's I think what you've done, and you've talked 551 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:12,159 Speaker 1: about hopefully a lot, and I've seen you when you 552 00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:15,159 Speaker 1: talk about your suicide attempts, seeing guys who are in 553 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:16,360 Speaker 1: a hole and all of a sudden. 554 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:17,639 Speaker 2: Lift themselves up. 555 00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:21,000 Speaker 1: Man. So again, and I love you for what you've 556 00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:23,080 Speaker 1: done for a country, but I really love you for 557 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:25,879 Speaker 1: how much you're able to put your pain out there 558 00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:26,720 Speaker 1: to help other people. 559 00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:29,600 Speaker 5: Well, you know you and I have talked to a 560 00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:32,080 Speaker 5: couple of times, and you gave me the platform to 561 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:36,000 Speaker 5: do it. Is I believe that our vulnerability is our superpower. 562 00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:41,520 Speaker 5: We're truly the toughest, baddest muldoons when we can be vulnerable, 563 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:44,240 Speaker 5: because nobody can take away all the other stuff. Like 564 00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:49,280 Speaker 5: if I can show you the broken part, the fragile part, 565 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:53,680 Speaker 5: the damage part, what are you possibly going to do 566 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:57,119 Speaker 5: to me that doesn't take away all the badass stuff 567 00:25:57,160 --> 00:26:00,680 Speaker 5: that I've been able to accomplish. But being able to 568 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:03,920 Speaker 5: share that and being brave in that and saying look this, 569 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:07,320 Speaker 5: I'm a human and I thought I screw up a 570 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:10,119 Speaker 5: lot of shit, and and what I can't say is 571 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:14,479 Speaker 5: while the voices never go away, you can make them quieter, right, 572 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:16,840 Speaker 5: you can make them quieter, and they have a lot 573 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:20,640 Speaker 5: less power when you just acknowledge, Yeah, they're there, they're there, 574 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:22,720 Speaker 5: and I know when they come and I go, oh no, 575 00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:25,120 Speaker 5: I'm not supposed to listen to this, Like I got 576 00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:27,160 Speaker 5: other I've got other things. 577 00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:28,119 Speaker 3: To go forward and do. 578 00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:30,800 Speaker 2: But also now we for all those years, you know, 579 00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:33,240 Speaker 2: totally different world again. 580 00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:37,679 Speaker 5: I've always thought there was a connection between certainly the NFL, 581 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:42,440 Speaker 5: but at the sports and and and Warriors is you know, 582 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:47,200 Speaker 5: we're all team on the field, but then we suffer 583 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:50,000 Speaker 5: in silence. And you know, one of the things about 584 00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:53,280 Speaker 5: Ranger School is you're suffering together like and it's a 585 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:56,639 Speaker 5: lot you're allowed to say if this sucks, like okay, 586 00:26:57,040 --> 00:26:59,800 Speaker 5: let's look like, hey, can you take this out of 587 00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:02,920 Speaker 5: my rucksack because I can't carry it anymore? Can you 588 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:04,800 Speaker 5: help me carry it? And that's what we got to 589 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:07,359 Speaker 5: We got to continue to share what's in our rucksack. 590 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:10,400 Speaker 5: And sometimes it means putting some stuff in your rucksack. 591 00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:12,480 Speaker 5: You know, let me take that for you, and I'll 592 00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:14,679 Speaker 5: carry that for a little bit before I. 593 00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:17,320 Speaker 2: Lets you got tuber of questions. One, why you tell 594 00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:18,719 Speaker 2: that story when you're not first thing? 595 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:20,600 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, it's. 596 00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:22,560 Speaker 2: A badass tell the story. Yeah. 597 00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:27,200 Speaker 5: So when when we were let's see, like two thousand 598 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:29,040 Speaker 5: and it had to be like two thousand and eight, 599 00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:32,680 Speaker 5: and you know, the the bad guys that were operating 600 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:37,040 Speaker 5: in Iraq, they had this tattoo of a moon, crescent 601 00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:39,640 Speaker 5: and a star. There was a guy with that tattoo 602 00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:44,120 Speaker 5: and I said, oh, hey, so you were in al 603 00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:45,439 Speaker 5: Ambar and. 604 00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:47,960 Speaker 3: He and he looks at me and he'say, yeah, and 605 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:49,800 Speaker 3: he goes, ha, do you know that. I'm like, what's 606 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:50,920 Speaker 3: on your what's on your hand? 607 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:53,520 Speaker 5: He's like uh, like he got like kind of sheepish 608 00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:55,679 Speaker 5: and he's like, but we were rounding those dudes up 609 00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:56,280 Speaker 5: all the time. 610 00:27:56,640 --> 00:28:00,040 Speaker 1: I thought you pulled that guy out specifically, Like so 611 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:01,800 Speaker 1: I pulled you out of sit down palace. 612 00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:03,920 Speaker 5: Like, well, no, I said, I know, you don't I 613 00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:06,119 Speaker 5: And he's like, yeah, you might have. 614 00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:08,080 Speaker 3: I said, no, no, I remember where we were. 615 00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:08,600 Speaker 2: We were here. 616 00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:10,439 Speaker 3: He's like, yeah, probably may. 617 00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:13,720 Speaker 1: It would be you and Randy could Dore. H'm like, Randy, 618 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:17,560 Speaker 1: that's a badass shit right there. He said, as a 619 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:20,600 Speaker 1: matter of factly, oh yeah, I know you don't remember me. 620 00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:23,119 Speaker 1: It was it was some Leah Neeson taking ship you 621 00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:25,919 Speaker 1: don't remember me to you it was awesome. It was awesome. 622 00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:29,120 Speaker 3: That was fun. It was fun. 623 00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:31,720 Speaker 1: But never forget those stories back because that's something the 624 00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:34,480 Speaker 1: rest of the world could never dream of doing, right 625 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:37,440 Speaker 1: or they're not able to or willing to. So that's 626 00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:40,200 Speaker 1: the pride we talked about. My last question, you yeah, 627 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:44,120 Speaker 1: your unbreakable moment, I asked all my guests this, give 628 00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:47,280 Speaker 1: me your unbreakable moment, the moment that should have broken you, 629 00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:51,320 Speaker 1: could have broken you, but didn't, and as a result, 630 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:54,000 Speaker 1: you came through the other side of that tunnel stronger forever. 631 00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:57,320 Speaker 5: I think it was when it was eighteen months after 632 00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:02,560 Speaker 5: my eleventh combat deployment and I was in a training 633 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:08,360 Speaker 5: role and I looked at you know, I was given 634 00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:12,600 Speaker 5: a whole bunch of like administrative work right like here 635 00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:15,800 Speaker 5: I was literally eighteen months ago, I'm running and gunning, 636 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:20,200 Speaker 5: and now like somebody's yelling at me about paperwork and 637 00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:22,440 Speaker 5: this doesn't sound like. Oh I was in the I 638 00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:25,680 Speaker 5: was in the trenches, and now that stuff was comfortable 639 00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:29,200 Speaker 5: to me, right like going and fighting. That was where 640 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:31,480 Speaker 5: I belonged, and now all of a sudden, I got 641 00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:35,040 Speaker 5: into this place where okay, who are you, Like, you're 642 00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:37,080 Speaker 5: not a guy who sits by a desk and writes 643 00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:39,680 Speaker 5: down on it and like and checks papers that by 644 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:41,800 Speaker 5: the way, like some civilian is telling you to do 645 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:45,440 Speaker 5: while you're still wearing a uniform. And that was you 646 00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:48,960 Speaker 5: know that that was my first suicide attempt. And I 647 00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:51,760 Speaker 5: will say that. You know, some people say, oh, that 648 00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:54,280 Speaker 5: broke you. It didn't because I didn't go through with it. 649 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:57,680 Speaker 5: I didn't go through with it. And for that one, 650 00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:01,440 Speaker 5: it wasn't because I got caught. It because I thought 651 00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:04,960 Speaker 5: about my kids and I knew that they needed me. 652 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:09,920 Speaker 5: And I will tell you that that's that's the worst moment. 653 00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:12,880 Speaker 5: That first one was the worst moment. And you know, 654 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:15,120 Speaker 5: you say that, you know at a four, like they 655 00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:16,920 Speaker 5: all had to be pretty bad, but it was that 656 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:20,840 Speaker 5: first time when you just felt completely worthless, right like, 657 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:23,680 Speaker 5: this isn't what I'm built for. I'm built for something else. 658 00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:26,600 Speaker 5: And I think it was that time that I realized, 659 00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:30,240 Speaker 5: that's the first time that I realized I'm built for more. 660 00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:34,560 Speaker 5: I'm built for more than this. So it's like, get 661 00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:39,200 Speaker 5: through this slug through this and let's keep going. And 662 00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:41,000 Speaker 5: I think that we're all going to get to that 663 00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:44,880 Speaker 5: point where where we're going to break, or we're gonna 664 00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:48,440 Speaker 5: come close to breaking. And it's that moment where you go, no, no, no, no, no, 665 00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:51,560 Speaker 5: there's more to it than this, Like there, this isn't 666 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:53,800 Speaker 5: the end, This can't be my final chapter. 667 00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:55,400 Speaker 3: That there's more to it. 668 00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:59,440 Speaker 5: And you know, it still doesn't mean I mean, I 669 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:02,720 Speaker 5: still hate paperwork, but but I will tell you that 670 00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:05,560 Speaker 5: because and everybody thinks, like, oh, what you went through, 671 00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:06,880 Speaker 5: it's got to be so tough on your brain. 672 00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:08,880 Speaker 3: It's got to be. So that was where I was 673 00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:09,840 Speaker 3: most comfortable. 674 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:10,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, I was. 675 00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:12,880 Speaker 3: I was where I felt at home. 676 00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:16,360 Speaker 5: It was chaos, it was it was controlled violence, it 677 00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:20,040 Speaker 5: was that was where I felt normal. Where I didn't 678 00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:24,520 Speaker 5: feel normal was you know where nobody's it's you know, 679 00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:26,640 Speaker 5: I call it the nerve world. I didn't feel normal 680 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:28,720 Speaker 5: in a nerve world where nobody's trying to kill you. 681 00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:31,120 Speaker 5: It's just everybody's trying. It's like death from a thousand 682 00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:34,680 Speaker 5: paper cuts, and it's like, well this sucks. And being 683 00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:37,920 Speaker 5: able to say no, you're adaptable. You can do both. 684 00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:39,280 Speaker 5: You can keep going. 685 00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:42,720 Speaker 2: Brother, I'm glad you shourdvive that because I got a 686 00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:44,480 Speaker 2: great brother out of it too. 687 00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:47,960 Speaker 5: I'm I'm glad, and I'm and and again, you know, 688 00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:52,280 Speaker 5: I don't think people realize how big your heart is 689 00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:56,880 Speaker 5: and how you know you're a good man. You're a 690 00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:59,239 Speaker 5: good man, and I appreciate the good man that you are. 691 00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:03,120 Speaker 5: And I will tell you that I've watched you just 692 00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:05,560 Speaker 5: the last year to be honest with you and just 693 00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:11,160 Speaker 5: see you become this joyful individual, like your whole tone 694 00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:14,040 Speaker 5: has changed, your whole outlook. It's been it's been a 695 00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:18,360 Speaker 5: privilege as your friend to watch this metamorphois and and 696 00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:21,719 Speaker 5: really see you, like come into this new phase. 697 00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:24,320 Speaker 1: Right, you see me my worst because you see me 698 00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:27,160 Speaker 1: as the guy who's always hurt. You know, now that 699 00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:29,840 Speaker 1: I have Rosie, the first time in my life, I 700 00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:33,400 Speaker 1: feel like I'm worthy of love. And I always felt 701 00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:36,240 Speaker 1: like I was cursed and I didn't deserve it. That's 702 00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:38,400 Speaker 1: hard to go through life like that. So you're really 703 00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:41,000 Speaker 1: fucking angry and presentful, like why does everybody else get 704 00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:41,720 Speaker 1: to get in love with me? 705 00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:42,600 Speaker 4: You know? 706 00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:46,680 Speaker 5: And so you've seen me my worst, So I'm keep 707 00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:49,840 Speaker 5: in mind you got Rosie, But Rosie's got you too. 708 00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:51,000 Speaker 2: No doubt, no doubt. 709 00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:51,160 Speaker 1: Right. 710 00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:54,400 Speaker 2: And it took me fifty four years. 711 00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:57,000 Speaker 1: And I said, listen, if it took fifty four years, 712 00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:58,720 Speaker 1: but I get hurt for eternity and I can be 713 00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:01,840 Speaker 1: like this. It's worth the way. It's never too late, right, 714 00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:04,360 Speaker 1: And I appreciate you seeing the growth. And I've worked 715 00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:07,560 Speaker 1: my ass off on the growth. I've worked so hard 716 00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:09,880 Speaker 1: on this man. And you know, people out there and 717 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:13,040 Speaker 1: understand this is like the way I fight. And Jacy 718 00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:14,760 Speaker 1: will tell you this. I just come forward and Ford 719 00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:17,120 Speaker 1: and Ford and Ford and for it. And I'm relentless 720 00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:20,800 Speaker 1: and relentless, relentless. I don't stop talk business. Tried do 721 00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:23,880 Speaker 1: my insider job. It's everything. And I did the same 722 00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:26,160 Speaker 1: thing with my mental health and it was the that 723 00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:29,240 Speaker 1: was the fight of my life and I got there. 724 00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:31,800 Speaker 1: So there is light at the m of the tonel now. 725 00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:33,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, it was, it's it's been. 726 00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:37,160 Speaker 5: It's been an honor to watch and cheer you on 727 00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:40,880 Speaker 5: and uh and and really you're an example, I mean 728 00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:45,600 Speaker 5: your example for all of us military athletes just humans 729 00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:49,960 Speaker 5: to understand that you know, it can get better. It's 730 00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:52,680 Speaker 5: it's about it's about continuing to drive forward. 731 00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:54,080 Speaker 2: Man I love you. 732 00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:59,080 Speaker 1: Jac glock our guest here on the Unbreakable Mental Wealth podcast. 733 00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:00,120 Speaker 3: Thanks by he