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Speaker 1: This is the Benn and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast

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Speaker 1: with her radio. It's Almost Famous time and we're here.

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Speaker 1: It's a huge episode today. We have Maddie Pruett coming on.

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Speaker 1: We also are going to do our regular Bachelor recap

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Speaker 1: and we're gonna do Bachelor headlines. But to start, we

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Speaker 1: want to also break down the rule for this week's

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Speaker 1: Bachelor Brackett. Actually, what we got this week's batch bracket

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Speaker 1: rule is plus ten points if a contestant mentions they

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Speaker 1: can see a future with another contestant. Oh my gosh,

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Speaker 1: this is the week for this. There's gonna be a

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Speaker 1: lot of this chatter. It's gonna be great. Hey, Ashley,

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Speaker 1: huge episode this week. Um, massive stuff going on. I

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Speaker 1: do want to mention that a lot of people out

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Speaker 1: there are probably expecting us because Michelle's suitors have been revealed.

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Speaker 1: They're they're expecting us to break down that. We we're

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Speaker 1: gonna do that, Ashley. We're just gonna wait till after

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Speaker 1: Paradise because okay, great, thanks Batt. I feel like we're

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Speaker 1: jumping me the gun on all of these meet the

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Speaker 1: contestants Because am I wrong in saying that they released

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Speaker 1: the New Bachelor's contestants as well. This week they gotta

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Speaker 1: we got a sneak peek, we got some photos. I

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Speaker 1: love their official but I'm like, guys, we're not meeting

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Speaker 1: these girls till January. I really don't care. Yeah, you

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Speaker 1: know what, and I don't think our listeners do. Ei there,

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Speaker 1: we have a lot to focus on in Paradise is

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Speaker 1: that thing right now? We will do it for you.

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Speaker 1: Just give us some time. Let's talk Paradise. Let's focus

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Speaker 1: for a bit. So let's start here. Actually, this week's

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Speaker 1: episodes a big episode. We obviously have the drama between

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Speaker 1: Ivan uh and Aaron kind of rolling over to the

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Speaker 1: start of this Actley, what do we got? Okay, So

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Speaker 1: obviously we know that Aaron is mad as usual because Chelsea.

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Speaker 1: But it's okay because in this case, I feel like

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Speaker 1: I'm kind of on his side. Uh yeah, because he

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Speaker 1: is going after Ivan because he kissed Chelsea after saying

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Speaker 1: things like I am not here trying to get anybody's rose,

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Speaker 1: Like I've kind of been here, I've met everyone, and

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Speaker 1: I understand why Aaron gets mad at this. Of course,

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Speaker 1: I always feel like Aaron's a little bit too dramatic

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Speaker 1: about it. But then Ivan said something to him like,

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Speaker 1: I didn't I didn't even pull her. She pulled me.

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Speaker 1: She was one and wanted to talk to me. And

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Speaker 1: then we do that little flashback and we see that

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Speaker 1: it's not the case and Ivan was definitely lying and

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Speaker 1: he was kind of lying to everyone. So I'm like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: Ivan is step off. What do you What do you

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Speaker 1: think about that moment? Because I think it gets even

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Speaker 1: um you become even more on Aaron's side later at

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Speaker 1: the actual Row ceremony. Well, let's start by saying, this

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Speaker 1: could not have been a worse episode. Ivan, I mean,

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Speaker 1: a fan favorite, a guy that has kind of walked

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Speaker 1: without a lot of issues on this show. He has

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Speaker 1: like just a few weeks left, and it feels like

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Speaker 1: everything blows up for him at the beginning of this episode,

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Speaker 1: Like everything kind of blows up during during the process

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Speaker 1: of it. This is my thought. Yeah, I think Ivan

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Speaker 1: was in the wrong. I think he admitted it. I

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Speaker 1: bit and say, hey, he messed up. Now. Do I

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Speaker 1: think Ivan's the worst hum in the world. No, did

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Speaker 1: done on Paradise, No not, but he lied about it

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Speaker 1: like he did, and he tried to point it on

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Speaker 1: his part. And obviously we'll talk about it later, but

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Speaker 1: Ivan's whole episode kind of was a big blow up.

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Speaker 1: been a fan of her from the very beginning I

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Speaker 1: still am. But it was Chelsea at all in the

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Speaker 1: wrong during any of this, Like she kissed Ivan, she

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Speaker 1: was obviously with Aaron. We see through the episode that

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Speaker 1: she feels like her and Aaron are a thing, obviously,

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Speaker 1: But did Chelsea mess up at all with the rules

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Speaker 1: of Paradise by kissing Ivan on that couch? Probably not?

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Speaker 1: Why because she's kind of like in the position of

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Speaker 1: which we'll get to you in a little bit. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: that also weird. It's just like kind of all related together.

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Speaker 1: So let's let's jump to the next big moment, and

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Speaker 1: that is when Wells says that he needs to talk

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Speaker 1: to Ivan privately before the for the Rose ceremony, and

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Speaker 1: he says that they basically caught him going to another

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Speaker 1: contestant her name is Alexa, her room the night that

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Speaker 1: they stayed in the hotel. We we knew from those

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Speaker 1: thinking that possibly he had something with Chelsea, but actually

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Speaker 1: then he you know how, he has to admit this,

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Speaker 1: have a sleepover afterwards. But we did see some new

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Speaker 1: was stretched out, it was played out. But Ivan's biggest

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think like if Ashley, if you and

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Speaker 1: that to me stood out as like that, hey, if

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Speaker 1: was pursuing a girly light. It was he broke the

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Speaker 1: trust of the show. Okay, So this week i'van tweeted

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Speaker 1: something that was kind of juicy for all of us,

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Speaker 1: especially with podcasts. He said that anybody who gets me

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Speaker 1: get gold. So my thought is that there's a little

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Speaker 1: He says to Chelsea, just wanted to let you know,

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Speaker 1: came out that they might still be dating. Who knows, um,

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Speaker 1: we see things? Do we both see things that weren't there?

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Speaker 1: Riley feels so strong. They feel like they really haven't

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Speaker 1: And then we see the scene that shocked you and

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Speaker 1: was that just reimagining things might be the best way

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Speaker 1: will be on Amazon. Uh and it's called Made for

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Speaker 1: this Moment. So my big question for you is, how

428
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Speaker 1: is this different than all the other Bachelor books that

429
00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:18,760
Speaker 1: we're seeing come out? Is it even a Bachelor book?

430
00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:22,399
Speaker 1: So I do talk about my experience, of course, but

431
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Speaker 1: really I just I mean, I talked about my life

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00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:26,919
Speaker 1: as a whole, like just like my testimony and the

433
00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:30,080
Speaker 1: things that I've walked through. But I do think that

434
00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:32,720
Speaker 1: for me, I because I that is a question I

435
00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:36,800
Speaker 1: get absolute, And for me, the book is really just

436
00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:40,400
Speaker 1: to encourage and empower, especially like women, but really anybody,

437
00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:43,680
Speaker 1: but especially the women. UM, just to like figure out

438
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Speaker 1: who you are and know your identity, know your word,

439
00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:48,919
Speaker 1: know your value, UM, and know that you're made on

440
00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:51,520
Speaker 1: purpose and for purpose. And so my heart is really

441
00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:54,760
Speaker 1: just like encourage and empower and meet people where they're at,

442
00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:57,439
Speaker 1: but help them get to where ultimately, like I believe

443
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Speaker 1: God wants them to be and what he had as

444
00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:03,760
Speaker 1: ultimately for them. So really that's like how I wrote

445
00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:06,600
Speaker 1: with it in mind. So it's not like a Bachelor

446
00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:11,520
Speaker 1: t book. I'm not like exposing anyone. It's like very um.

447
00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:13,560
Speaker 1: I mean I talked about my time throughout the show

448
00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:15,600
Speaker 1: and just like how it impacts to me why I

449
00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:18,280
Speaker 1: went on the show, because that's like the most asked

450
00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:20,919
Speaker 1: question I think I get, um, But yeah, why I

451
00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:23,000
Speaker 1: went on the show and just kind of what led

452
00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:24,760
Speaker 1: to that moment of saying yes to that and then

453
00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:27,240
Speaker 1: kind of the experience as a whole and then since

454
00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:29,679
Speaker 1: then and just what I learned throughout that journey. And

455
00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:32,320
Speaker 1: even though like obviously most of my readers aren't going

456
00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:34,880
Speaker 1: to be going on reality TV shows or have had

457
00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:37,679
Speaker 1: that experience in the past. For me, it was like okay,

458
00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:40,760
Speaker 1: but so many people understood, Like even watching my life,

459
00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:42,720
Speaker 1: the most asked question that I got on this like

460
00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:45,240
Speaker 1: coming off the show was like, how were you able

461
00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:47,239
Speaker 1: to stay true to yourself and say true to your

462
00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:49,919
Speaker 1: beliefs and convictions? Like how were you able to be

463
00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:53,080
Speaker 1: so confident and calm and just whatever you know throughout

464
00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:55,760
Speaker 1: the time on the show? And so really like that's

465
00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:58,000
Speaker 1: kind of what I wanted to speak to two people,

466
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Speaker 1: um and just like meet them where they're at and

467
00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:03,320
Speaker 1: even though their external experiences may not be the same

468
00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:05,200
Speaker 1: as mine, they may not be on a reality TV show,

469
00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:08,200
Speaker 1: they you know, are still left with all the same

470
00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:10,400
Speaker 1: inside feelings of just trying to figure out like who

471
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Speaker 1: am I? What am I here for? How can I

472
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Speaker 1: stay true to myself with all these pressures around me

473
00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:17,320
Speaker 1: in the world telling me this is who you are,

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Speaker 1: this is your label, this is what you're supposed to do,

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00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:22,399
Speaker 1: Like how can I silence all of that out and

476
00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:24,439
Speaker 1: really figure out for myself like, no, this is who

477
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Speaker 1: I am, this is what I believe, and no matter

478
00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:28,200
Speaker 1: what the environment I'm in I'm going to say true

479
00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:31,240
Speaker 1: to that, And so I really wrote it for those

480
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Speaker 1: people out there. So it's it's more of an empowerment

481
00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:37,720
Speaker 1: faith based book, but it does have my Bachelor story

482
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Speaker 1: in there. What's happened Maddie between your time on the

483
00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:45,359
Speaker 1: show and now that's made you go, this is what

484
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Speaker 1: I want to talk about, Like as as the as

485
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Speaker 1: silence has became more and as things have kind of

486
00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:53,679
Speaker 1: filtered through, and now you have like a perspective on

487
00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:55,520
Speaker 1: what that show meant to you. In the platform was handed,

488
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Speaker 1: why was your response? I want to write this book

489
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Speaker 1: to empower people. So the crazy thing is I actually

490
00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:04,720
Speaker 1: had started writing a book before ever went on The Bachelor,

491
00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:08,720
Speaker 1: and I graduated from Bible College, and I thought that

492
00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:11,600
Speaker 1: my life was heading in the trajectory of like I'm

493
00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:15,159
Speaker 1: gonna marry a pastor. I'm gonna be like, you know,

494
00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:18,239
Speaker 1: just prying over people and going on mission trips. Like

495
00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:21,280
Speaker 1: I fully thought that was the direction God had me

496
00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:23,439
Speaker 1: going in. And when I got a call from a

497
00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:25,960
Speaker 1: bachelor and felt like that was what I was supposed

498
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:28,439
Speaker 1: to do, it fully didn't make sense to me. I

499
00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:31,280
Speaker 1: was like, this doesn't really align with like what I'm

500
00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:33,760
Speaker 1: going for and the trajectory of my life and kind

501
00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:35,760
Speaker 1: of the box that I'd put myself in and other

502
00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:38,119
Speaker 1: people would put me in. So I don't really understand

503
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:39,840
Speaker 1: like what this has to do with anything, But I

504
00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:41,440
Speaker 1: knew that I was supposed to go on the show,

505
00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:43,679
Speaker 1: and I felt led to do. I didn't know what

506
00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:46,000
Speaker 1: it was gonna look like. I didn't know it was

507
00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:48,119
Speaker 1: gonna be me and Peter at the finale trying to

508
00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:50,920
Speaker 1: figure stuff out. Like I had no idea what it

509
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Speaker 1: was gonna look like. But I I was open, like

510
00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:54,679
Speaker 1: I was like honestly like, yeah, if I find my

511
00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:57,119
Speaker 1: person great, Like I don't know, like I don't know

512
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Speaker 1: what this is gonna look like, so I'm just gonna see.

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00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:02,280
Speaker 1: And I really stepped into it, um open handed, but

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00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:04,679
Speaker 1: knowing that it was kind of where God was leading me.

515
00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:07,200
Speaker 1: And then when I came off the show, and I

516
00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:09,320
Speaker 1: had so many people asking me, like so many of

517
00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:12,760
Speaker 1: those questions and girls just like opening up about you know,

518
00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:15,879
Speaker 1: through my testimony in my story, they decided to say

519
00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:20,040
Speaker 1: themselves for marriage and wait um and and just pursue

520
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:22,720
Speaker 1: kind of like pure you know, purity until marriage, and

521
00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:24,760
Speaker 1: I it was just so cool. I was like, wow,

522
00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:27,720
Speaker 1: like this is so awesome. And so many people who

523
00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:30,080
Speaker 1: were so afraid to like talk about these things or

524
00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:33,080
Speaker 1: to have these kind of beliefs and convictions, you know

525
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:35,080
Speaker 1: now like kind of opening up and just saying that

526
00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:37,520
Speaker 1: I was able to just encourage them. And so I

527
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:40,400
Speaker 1: really just you know, I came off the show, and

528
00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:43,159
Speaker 1: because I felt led to do it, and because I

529
00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:45,479
Speaker 1: felt led to go on it, I never really like

530
00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:47,760
Speaker 1: made it about me, like I didn't come off the show.

531
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:49,000
Speaker 1: And I was like, oh, like I get to do

532
00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:50,960
Speaker 1: all these things like it's all about this, all about that.

533
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:53,159
Speaker 1: It was like, okay, so how can I use this

534
00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:55,120
Speaker 1: since I felt like this is where God was leading me? Now,

535
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Speaker 1: how can I use this to like add value to

536
00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:58,920
Speaker 1: other people? Like how can I take this and pour

537
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:00,800
Speaker 1: into other people? And as soon as I got off

538
00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:03,119
Speaker 1: the show, I was getting reached out to buy a

539
00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:06,199
Speaker 1: lot of different conferences, student conferences, churches you know, like

540
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:08,480
Speaker 1: come and speak at our our events and stuff like that.

541
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:10,760
Speaker 1: And at first I was kind of like surprised. I

542
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:15,400
Speaker 1: was like, oh, you want me to come speak? And

543
00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:18,000
Speaker 1: I was like okay, like let's do it. God, like whatever,

544
00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:21,199
Speaker 1: whatever you have and so really like my mindset was,

545
00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:23,600
Speaker 1: whatever you have for me, Lord, like, whether it's you know,

546
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:26,400
Speaker 1: something everyone sees, something no one sees like. I don't

547
00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:29,600
Speaker 1: really care, Like, I just know that I have something

548
00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:32,240
Speaker 1: inside of me that I want to give to other people,

549
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:35,119
Speaker 1: and I know that I can help encourage and empower

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00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:37,520
Speaker 1: other people to like show me what that looks like.

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00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:39,440
Speaker 1: And so when I got off on the show, you know,

552
00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:42,280
Speaker 1: some opportunities started opening up of just speaking and writing,

553
00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:46,120
Speaker 1: and I really just like jumped on that and just

554
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:48,680
Speaker 1: wanted to kind of think at it from the perspective of, like,

555
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:52,120
Speaker 1: what is our like, what is my generation really struggling with?

556
00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:54,200
Speaker 1: And what do I wish like someone would have told

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Speaker 1: me when I was you know, e one like, and

558
00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:00,160
Speaker 1: how can I just really encourage them and empower them

559
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:02,560
Speaker 1: and help them get to where they dreamed to be?

560
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:05,880
Speaker 1: And so that was kind of my mindset when I

561
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 1: came off the show. I love that so much. I

562
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:10,520
Speaker 1: feel like your your books going to help a lot

563
00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:14,160
Speaker 1: of young girls and guys out there. So you say

564
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:17,080
Speaker 1: that you were led to be on the Bachelor, you

565
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:21,480
Speaker 1: didn't feel led to be on Paradise. I didn't know.

566
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:23,520
Speaker 1: I have a lad to be off here and I said, no,

567
00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:27,120
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. How hard did they try to get you

568
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:30,800
Speaker 1: on the show? Out? They were pulling all the all

569
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:34,040
Speaker 1: the cards, um, and they swore to me that my

570
00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:36,440
Speaker 1: husband was going to be on there. I have not watched,

571
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:40,440
Speaker 1: so I have no idea who they were referencing. But um,

572
00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:43,640
Speaker 1: but yeah, I just yeah, I didn't. I'm a person

573
00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:46,400
Speaker 1: of like peace, and I'm a person of like leading

574
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:49,040
Speaker 1: with what I feel like. I don't know where God

575
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:51,640
Speaker 1: is taking me. And when they called, I was like, listen, guys,

576
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:54,880
Speaker 1: I was like, no, I'm so sorry. I'm not I'm

577
00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:57,400
Speaker 1: just not going there. Was there ever a moment like,

578
00:29:57,560 --> 00:29:59,760
Speaker 1: was there ever a moment that you even thought about it?

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Speaker 1: Be honest, I would say I was now, So there

580
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:06,400
Speaker 1: was a one There was a one percent because they

581
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:10,080
Speaker 1: were like, I swear, Maddie, your husband is there, and

582
00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:13,600
Speaker 1: I was like hmm. And then I thought about it

583
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:15,840
Speaker 1: and I was like, no, you know, if he's there

584
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:18,880
Speaker 1: then and he's my husband, and then he's gonna find

585
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:23,080
Speaker 1: me the organic way and I'm gonna just see how

586
00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:24,959
Speaker 1: things play out. And I haven't watched the show at all,

587
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:27,200
Speaker 1: so I have no idea who, like is even on

588
00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:29,960
Speaker 1: it other than my friends that went on it, but yeah,

589
00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:32,680
Speaker 1: it was. It was part no fact. Actually I don't know. Yeah,

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00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:34,120
Speaker 1: I don't know what you think, but I don't think

591
00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:38,120
Speaker 1: he was there. I was gonna say, I am thinking

592
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:44,560
Speaker 1: about the guy he didn't go. I don't know who.

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00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:46,520
Speaker 1: I don't know who I would be referencing. But I

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00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:47,920
Speaker 1: don't know. Again, I don't even know who I was

595
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:49,920
Speaker 1: on there or something. Yeah, I don't. I don't see it.

596
00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:52,479
Speaker 1: I mean, maybe actually has a better radar here than

597
00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:54,760
Speaker 1: I do. But I'm kind of like it comes to me.

598
00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:59,360
Speaker 1: I'll I'll let you know. That's good stuff. Um, Maddie,

599
00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:02,480
Speaker 1: it's in testing. Ashley and I have mentioned on the

600
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:04,440
Speaker 1: podcast before, but there's a moment I was standing up

601
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:07,360
Speaker 1: in front of a church a few years ago and

602
00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:09,640
Speaker 1: then it hit me. I was like, you know, because

603
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:11,480
Speaker 1: of the reality television show, now people want to hear

604
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:13,120
Speaker 1: what I have to say, which is so weird to me.

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00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:15,640
Speaker 1: Have you ever had that feeling? Like, have you as

606
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:18,080
Speaker 1: this book comes out? Is it is it odd to

607
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:22,640
Speaker 1: you that your life's experience, your life journey has led

608
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:24,640
Speaker 1: to a point where now people are so interesting they're

609
00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:26,680
Speaker 1: gonna be so excited about this book for you and

610
00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:28,720
Speaker 1: to read what you have to say, and it comes

611
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:31,560
Speaker 1: from this crazy show that we're laughing about right now.

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00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:35,880
Speaker 1: I've had I would say, I have more of those

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00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:38,720
Speaker 1: moments when people come up to me like crying and

614
00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:43,600
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, I'm like, no, it's just me. So um,

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00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:47,040
Speaker 1: I would say I have more moments like that. I

616
00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:50,160
Speaker 1: would say as far as speaking and writing and everything,

617
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:53,200
Speaker 1: I always knew that like that was gonna be some

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00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:55,480
Speaker 1: form of my life. I didn't know to what capacity.

619
00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:58,080
Speaker 1: I had no idea that like it was going to

620
00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:00,160
Speaker 1: be at the level that it is to where or

621
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 1: people know my face and care what I have to say.

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00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 1: I think more than anything though, it's been so humbling,

623
00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:10,240
Speaker 1: and it's just I've been so much more dependent on

624
00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:12,680
Speaker 1: God rather than like, oh, like look at me, here

625
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:14,920
Speaker 1: what I have to say. It's like, no, I actually

626
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:17,360
Speaker 1: know how broken and messed up I am, and like,

627
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 1: apart from God, like I have nothing good to give.

628
00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:23,960
Speaker 1: And so it's been a very humbling experience through all

629
00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:27,680
Speaker 1: of this, and like, and people keep you humbled. So

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00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:30,560
Speaker 1: I'm like, you know, anytime I've I've had one moment

631
00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:32,640
Speaker 1: of maybe not being humble. I'm like, well you just

632
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:36,360
Speaker 1: put me right back down with you. Um. So you know,

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00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:39,800
Speaker 1: it's been it has been very interesting in a lot

634
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:43,080
Speaker 1: of ways. But I think more than anything, I don't know,

635
00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:45,240
Speaker 1: like my life verse and like kind of just how

636
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:48,120
Speaker 1: I live my life in general is just very much

637
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:50,600
Speaker 1: like God, this life is not my own, and like

638
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna do like use it for selfish reasons.

639
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:57,440
Speaker 1: So like literally, whatever you want to do with my life,

640
00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:01,320
Speaker 1: however you want to use me and what that looks like,

641
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:04,080
Speaker 1: it's totally up to you. And so you know, for me,

642
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:05,960
Speaker 1: when I thought I was gonna live in Africa and

643
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Speaker 1: be a missionary, like I was very okay with that.

644
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Speaker 1: But I'm like, this isn't what I expected. But God's

645
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Speaker 1: use it in ways bigger than I could have ever imagined.

646
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Speaker 1: And so for that, I'm just I'm grateful and humbled.

647
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Speaker 1: Um and and yeah, and I just I think my

648
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Speaker 1: biggest prayer is just like everybody who picks up the book,

649
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:25,120
Speaker 1: like it's a transformative book, Like it's not just another

650
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:27,840
Speaker 1: book where you know, they get some information or they

651
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Speaker 1: get some whatever, and and that's that. It's like, no,

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Speaker 1: i I'm praying like I've prayed so hard over every

653
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Speaker 1: single person that's gonna be reading this book, and I'm

654
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Speaker 1: just like, I just pray that every person who picks

655
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:41,920
Speaker 1: it up just feels still loved and just met where

656
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Speaker 1: they're at and just know that like they were made

657
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Speaker 1: for such greatness and for such purpose. Um And so yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean that's just my mindset kind of as I

659
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Speaker 1: go throughout my day. And I think anytime I ever

660
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:56,280
Speaker 1: do make things about me like, God humbles me real quick.

661
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Speaker 1: So I just try and just live with that mindset

662
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Speaker 1: of like okay, or like you know, whatever you have

663
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:04,880
Speaker 1: um for me is great and it's been really cool,

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Speaker 1: um having. I mean, like you said, like on stage speaking,

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Speaker 1: my favorite moments are like after when I'm meeting with

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Speaker 1: someone one on one and I'm like pray, like I

667
00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:14,000
Speaker 1: get to pray with them or talk with them and

668
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:16,239
Speaker 1: hear some of their story and you know, they talk

669
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Speaker 1: about like how I was able to like you know,

670
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:22,520
Speaker 1: they gave their heart to Jesus because of seeing my faith,

671
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:24,959
Speaker 1: or they decided to save themselves for a marriage because

672
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:27,319
Speaker 1: of seeing my values and all of these things that

673
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 1: it's like holy cow, like wow, like it's it's just

674
00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 1: humbling and just like, oh my gosh, God, like only

675
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:36,040
Speaker 1: you could use someone like me and something like The

676
00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:39,480
Speaker 1: Bachelor to bring glory to like your name and to

677
00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:41,600
Speaker 1: like make people want to know you more. Like That's

678
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:44,000
Speaker 1: that to me is just like the overwhelming sense of

679
00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:47,960
Speaker 1: feeling that I get from all of it. Well, Maddie,

680
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:50,400
Speaker 1: you were fans of you here, uh, Jesse and I

681
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:53,680
Speaker 1: are fans of you in life. Um, we're glad to

682
00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:56,719
Speaker 1: support you on the almost famous podcast. We hope the

683
00:34:56,719 --> 00:35:01,319
Speaker 1: books and massive success again. It comes out October nineteenth, right,

684
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:03,880
Speaker 1: I don't want to get that wrong. I want everybody

685
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Speaker 1: to uh. And it's called Made for this Moment. You'll

686
00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:08,799
Speaker 1: be able to find it because Maddie's pictures on the

687
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:12,360
Speaker 1: front of it, and I think you can recognize it. Maddie.

688
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:14,080
Speaker 1: Before we go, I do want to talk about well

689
00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:15,680
Speaker 1: more thing that you have going on, and that is

690
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:20,000
Speaker 1: your new podcast. It's Maddie Pruett, the face of sports fashion.

691
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Speaker 1: How do you talk about like fashion on the podcast

692
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:26,279
Speaker 1: when it's not visual? Because I and I really want

693
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:28,480
Speaker 1: to know this because you have the coolest style and

694
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:31,360
Speaker 1: like you're always just so perfect and just adorable and Okay,

695
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:34,319
Speaker 1: how do you talk about fashion on a podcast? So

696
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:37,720
Speaker 1: I have partnered with the J Boy Podcast and they

697
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 1: do so much with like sports and really covering like

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Speaker 1: everything that's going on in college football, college sports, and

699
00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:46,640
Speaker 1: so it just has been really fun because I you know,

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Speaker 1: for me, it's like faith is such a big part

701
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:50,480
Speaker 1: of my life, but I also like having my hand

702
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:52,840
Speaker 1: and so many different things in sports being one of those,

703
00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:55,279
Speaker 1: I'm like, Ben, yeah, like I see the basketballs above

704
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:57,799
Speaker 1: your head and I'm like heck yeah, I'm like, let's

705
00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:01,239
Speaker 1: do And that's just like just such a big part

706
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:05,279
Speaker 1: of my personality, my life, my upbringing. And so for me,

707
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:07,520
Speaker 1: when like J Boy Podcast I reached out was like, hey,

708
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Speaker 1: do you want to like come on and kind of

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00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:12,040
Speaker 1: be like the face of like you know, fashion, sports

710
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:13,759
Speaker 1: and all of these things, I'm like, hey, yeah, sure,

711
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 1: like let's do it, um, And yeah, it's been it's

712
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:19,359
Speaker 1: been really fun. And I actually so I partnered with

713
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Speaker 1: this Game dayd Tour line and they actually represent like

714
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:25,680
Speaker 1: all of like collegiate sports, just colleges all over the US,

715
00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:28,080
Speaker 1: and so we came out of like a line of

716
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:30,120
Speaker 1: just like sweatshirts and hoodies and stuff like that. So

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00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:33,040
Speaker 1: I get to talk about that a good bit. Um.

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00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:36,160
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean, honestly, I'm like, gosh, my style

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00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:38,920
Speaker 1: is like comfort over everything. Like I'm like, I'm usually

720
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:41,799
Speaker 1: in sweats and sneakers, so I'm like, I'm very you

721
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Speaker 1: make it cool. It doesn't look like you're in sweat.

722
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:48,160
Speaker 1: It looks like you're in an outfit. Now. Who is

723
00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:58,640
Speaker 1: the most stylish athlete in your opinion? Athletes? Yeah, oh gosh, um, Honestly,

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Speaker 1: I love Um. Honestly, I don't really have Excuse me,

725
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:06,239
Speaker 1: I don't really have like a favorite. I always love

726
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:08,720
Speaker 1: like looking at their stuff, like before the games and stuff.

727
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:11,759
Speaker 1: I don't really have like a favorite athlete. I would

728
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:16,200
Speaker 1: say my style icon is Haley Bieber, but I'm like,

729
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:20,759
Speaker 1: she don't know an athlete, but she's vibe. Yeah, I

730
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Speaker 1: don't know. I mean, I love. I feel like it's

731
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:25,160
Speaker 1: funny because every athlete shows up in something different and

732
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:27,200
Speaker 1: so like sometimes I'm like, that's the most horrendous thing

733
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:29,319
Speaker 1: I've ever seen in my life. And then sometimes I'm like,

734
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:31,880
Speaker 1: good job. But like all of them just have stylist,

735
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:34,400
Speaker 1: so it's just what everything their stylist puts them in.

736
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:37,279
Speaker 1: But I always love just seeing like the new like

737
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:40,200
Speaker 1: trends and swag, and yeah, I'm just like a big

738
00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:43,680
Speaker 1: sweatshirt girl, and yeah, like a cool jacket. I love.

739
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:46,560
Speaker 1: I love accessories. So I'm like, good jewelry, good jacket,

740
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:49,920
Speaker 1: good choose. I'm like that's a statement, like basic shirt,

741
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:53,160
Speaker 1: basic pants, but like go all out with the bag

742
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:55,959
Speaker 1: and the jewelry and the you know, all the things

743
00:37:56,440 --> 00:38:00,480
Speaker 1: and the cute hair and makeup and all that all language.

744
00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:04,520
Speaker 1: You're speaking truth ender. She's like, I can wear sweatpants. Sweatpants, Yeah,

745
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:09,520
Speaker 1: sneakers can look good. I'm in Yeah. Alright, Maddie, you

746
00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:12,600
Speaker 1: are so sweet. We love having you on. Good luck

747
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:15,000
Speaker 1: with everything, and you guys can get the book again

748
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:18,799
Speaker 1: October nine on Amazon. Thank you guys so much. I

749
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:33,120
Speaker 1: had so much fun. See yeah, okay, guys. Well, Ben

750
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:35,640
Speaker 1: had to jump off, So I am in charge of

751
00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:40,080
Speaker 1: Bachelor headline solo this week, starting off with the fact

752
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:44,520
Speaker 1: that Claire and Dale have broken up again after a

753
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:49,080
Speaker 1: five month reconciliation. I am pretty sad about this. I

754
00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:51,880
Speaker 1: really really wanted things to work out for her. I

755
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:56,120
Speaker 1: felt that the second time was truly a charm, but

756
00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:59,000
Speaker 1: it doesn't look like that is the case. They were

757
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:02,359
Speaker 1: last spotted to oather at the Gray Goose Suite at

758
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:05,319
Speaker 1: the US Open on September nine, and that was our

759
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:09,000
Speaker 1: last Instagram as well. UM, But then fans started to

760
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:13,160
Speaker 1: speculate on September twenty they were not together when he

761
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:17,640
Speaker 1: celebrated his thirty third birthday without a social media post

762
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:21,839
Speaker 1: from Claire. He also attended a wedding that Claire was

763
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 1: invited to as his plus one over the UM over

764
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:33,040
Speaker 1: the September nineteen weekend, and UM, she didn't go. It

765
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:38,520
Speaker 1: was his friend's wedding, UM, and he wasn't talking about

766
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:41,160
Speaker 1: his own personal life. She just didn't go with him.

767
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:44,719
Speaker 1: So that is just really really sad news to me.

768
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:47,919
Speaker 1: I'm sure over the next couple of weeks we'll find

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00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:53,200
Speaker 1: out a little bit more about what unfolded, but until then,

770
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:56,880
Speaker 1: that's all we got. We have UM some more details

771
00:39:56,960 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 1: from Kendall Long though, who broke her silence this week

772
00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:04,840
Speaker 1: about UM, her decision to go on Paradise and what

773
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:07,959
Speaker 1: she was looking for from that experience. So she said

774
00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:10,960
Speaker 1: in the final chapter of My life, wouldn't it hurt

775
00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:14,799
Speaker 1: to look back and regret? A story formed from pieces

776
00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:18,600
Speaker 1: of others lives? Wants and desires. I think she's referring

777
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:21,799
Speaker 1: to fans who thought that she should not be on

778
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:25,080
Speaker 1: the show, uh, and not do and not have the

779
00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:27,520
Speaker 1: conversations that she had with Joe. There, she goes, but

780
00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:30,279
Speaker 1: I do what feels right. I say what I need

781
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 1: to say. I don't regret a single thing. I recommend

782
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:38,680
Speaker 1: you all stopped living very curiously as well. It's very freeing. Initially,

783
00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:40,840
Speaker 1: I knew that Joe was probably going to be on

784
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:43,080
Speaker 1: the show because he was single and he's an active

785
00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:46,480
Speaker 1: part of the Bachelor world. When I went on it,

786
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:49,200
Speaker 1: it wasn't um. When I went on, I wasn't interested

787
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:51,880
Speaker 1: in getting back in a relationship with Joe because if

788
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:55,560
Speaker 1: I wanted to, I would have done that the year

789
00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:58,760
Speaker 1: and a half that we had been broken up. Uh,

790
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:01,840
Speaker 1: She says, I didn't want to do it publicly in

791
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:05,080
Speaker 1: front of everyone, So my goal was to just go there,

792
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:07,640
Speaker 1: get closure, and find love on the beach like I

793
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:11,480
Speaker 1: did before. So this is very interesting, and I think

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00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:14,200
Speaker 1: that we're gonna have to really get into the nitty

795
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:17,640
Speaker 1: gritty on this. When Kendall does come on this podcast,

796
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 1: and she's a fund of the podcast, I think she

797
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:22,160
Speaker 1: will come on because I really want to know why.

798
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:26,239
Speaker 1: It seemed like when she got there, really she just

799
00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:29,080
Speaker 1: wanted to be with you. We will find out sooner

800
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:32,600
Speaker 1: rather than later, I hope now. Ben earlier in the

801
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:34,279
Speaker 1: show referred to the fact that we didn't get to

802
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:37,759
Speaker 1: see a lot of Becca and Thomas's relationship, and he

803
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:40,319
Speaker 1: did respond to a fan this week actually who said

804
00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:44,240
Speaker 1: it was sad that Bachelor in Paradise hasn't shown enough

805
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:49,000
Speaker 1: of this relationship. He said, some of our most beautiful

806
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:52,480
Speaker 1: moments were made with the little things, and reliving those

807
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:55,800
Speaker 1: will always be enough for me. Ben also said earlier

808
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:59,120
Speaker 1: in the podcast that there was photos of them possibly

809
00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:04,239
Speaker 1: together that show up this week, so maybe they are

810
00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:08,400
Speaker 1: still having a little something something because this quote saying

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00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 1: that like those memories will be enough for him kind

812
00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:15,759
Speaker 1: of sounds like their memories that aren't over. But you know,

813
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:20,000
Speaker 1: maybe I'm looking into things too much. Then we have

814
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:24,440
Speaker 1: another headline from a current Bachelor cast member, Marissa Gunn,

815
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:27,840
Speaker 1: who says that she and Christian built a fast connection

816
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:30,680
Speaker 1: by going to the Boom Boom Room. She said, we

817
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:32,680
Speaker 1: got back to the beach and we wanted to continue

818
00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:36,960
Speaker 1: our conversation. So it's two consenting adults. We went into

819
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:39,880
Speaker 1: the Boom Boom room together, which is fine. She said

820
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:43,160
Speaker 1: that the conversations that came from that night in an

821
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:47,840
Speaker 1: air conditioned room really strengthened their relationship. It was nice,

822
00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:51,000
Speaker 1: um because it allowed us more time together too, and

823
00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:54,560
Speaker 1: we were able to build a connection fast. And our

824
00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:58,960
Speaker 1: last headline is Matt James celebrates Rachael Kirkconnell as she

825
00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:02,920
Speaker 1: turned twenty at five. He says on Instagram, Happy birthday

826
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:08,160
Speaker 1: to my emergency contact. He posted a very sweet carousel

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00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:10,440
Speaker 1: of photos of the two of them together since they

828
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:15,280
Speaker 1: met in late on The Bachelor, and he said, be strong,

829
00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:20,280
Speaker 1: be courageous, and do not be afraid or terrified because

830
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:23,520
Speaker 1: of them. For the Lord, your God goes with you.

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Speaker 1: He will never leave you nor forsake you. And then

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00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:31,560
Speaker 1: he followed it by saying, happy birthday to my emergency contact.

833
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:35,759
Speaker 1: I love you so sweet. Alright, guys, well that is

834
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:39,720
Speaker 1: the headlines for this week. We will be back next week.

835
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:43,760
Speaker 1: And I realized there was something huge we didn't talk about,

836
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:47,160
Speaker 1: and that was the scenes from the next episode, because

837
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:52,919
Speaker 1: we see Kendall come back right as it looks like

838
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:58,879
Speaker 1: Joe is meeting Serena at the engagement altar. My best

839
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:02,000
Speaker 1: guess is that she's going to be sort of kind

840
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:04,919
Speaker 1: of giving him the blessing to go forward. I don't

841
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:07,680
Speaker 1: know that he's going to appreciate getting a blessing from Kendall,

842
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:11,800
Speaker 1: but maybe this is like her real sincere closure moment.

843
00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:14,239
Speaker 1: So we'll have to stay tuned and we'll have the

844
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:17,799
Speaker 1: answers to all of these speculations next week after a

845
00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:21,240
Speaker 1: three hour Bachelor in Paradise finale. I love you guys

846
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:23,839
Speaker 1: so much. Thank you for always being here for us.

847
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 1: It means the world. And signing off solo, I've been

848
00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:31,760
Speaker 1: Ashley Bye. Followed the Benn and Ashley I Almost Famous

849
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Speaker 1: podcast on I Heart Radio or subscribe wherever you listen

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