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Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast wishes its middle name was Princess.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition Lovely Around the NFL Podcast, presented

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Speaker 1: by Sirius x M. My name is Dan Hanzes and

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Speaker 1: I'm joining the room filled with some heroes, Mark Sessler

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Speaker 1: and Chris Westling. What is up? Boys? We're back in

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Speaker 1: the studio and it feels good. It does feel good.

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Speaker 1: I learned you know about it soon after last show

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Speaker 1: was put up on air that my mike or my

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Speaker 1: voice in general was barely uh audible to the to

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Speaker 1: the first line. I'm just saying, I just felt it

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Speaker 1: felt like a little over there was some sort of

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Speaker 1: a plot going on where my voice was trying that

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Speaker 1: someone was trying to squelch my opinions. Is it is

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Speaker 1: it fair to wonder if west just you and I

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Speaker 1: on this one? Is it fair to wonder if there

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Speaker 1: were some score settling involved here? Well? Yeah, I think

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Speaker 1: think that's always fair. Marc has had his issues with

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Speaker 1: our producers over the years. I and I also noticed

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Speaker 1: it's the only show that Greg was here with me

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Speaker 1: since I've returned from a long sojourn. And suddenly I'm

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Speaker 1: off to the side in a white chair with a green,

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Speaker 1: when I came into the studio. I got there early

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Speaker 1: and Greg was already there, which is weird. And he's

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Speaker 1: seen me in the corner fiddling with some wires with something.

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Speaker 1: I don't blame in the producer. I think he got

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Speaker 1: some context. Greg and the motherboard, who knows what was happening.

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Speaker 1: I don't like any even Greg and the Motherboard sounds

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Speaker 1: like his first album. Hey Dan here early, just like

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Speaker 1: ten was for the show. Oh yeah, I know, I

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Speaker 1: just you know, got here. Just sneakers check out? How

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Speaker 1: about the Egkees? It's like, what why is guy asking

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Speaker 1: me about the Eggies? Another sneakers? Check it out? All right?

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Speaker 1: This is the Wednesday edition of the Around the NFL podcast.

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Speaker 1: Much to get to today and now training camps are

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Speaker 1: really UM ramping up. Almost everyone is either reporting UM

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Speaker 1: already or you know, Thursday Friday and we're in full

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Speaker 1: weeks and weeks of UM, you know, let's call it

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Speaker 1: what it is. Much of b s and between the

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Speaker 1: heroes in the studio, you know, looking for stuff to

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Speaker 1: talk about, um, you know, delving into topics that maybe

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Speaker 1: don't need to be delved into. Uh, And sometimes that

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Speaker 1: makes for fun podcasting. But now we have a lot

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Speaker 1: of actual news to get to us. And that's a

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Speaker 1: might even return for the first time and sometime eight

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Speaker 1: o'clock to light one of our favorite tunes. I could

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Speaker 1: have used another few weeks of no news. Yeah, now

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Speaker 1: that it's here, this influx is unwelcome on some level.

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Speaker 1: I was trying to keep a good attitude about it. Um.

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Speaker 1: Also on today's show, Mina times we've teased it for

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Speaker 1: a few days. A few days now, she wrote about

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Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield for ESPN, a great piece, and we thought

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Speaker 1: bit more who we've we've all been fans of for

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Speaker 1: a little bit. But before that, now, time for what

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Speaker 1: we're hearing presented by serious exam Let's do some news.

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Speaker 1: This man was so good people have it old first,

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Speaker 1: A man so good it's been give his own Deil

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Speaker 1: Taylor Cowe because he for favorite old quity for our lockdown.

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Speaker 1: If you'll take his pocket, you got eight master rocks

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Speaker 1: in his pet locks A man Taylor Empy, Oh boy,

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Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey. That was the sound of the end of

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Speaker 1: the Big Arrival era in the NFL for training camp.

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Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey killed it. It's over now because he showed

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Speaker 1: up in an armored truck with a hype man and

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Speaker 1: and the whole thing was just a little bit ponderous. Well,

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Speaker 1: a team where every other club in your division one, nine,

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Speaker 1: one of the biggest appointments disappointments in the entire NFL.

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Speaker 1: And so this is the year where you need to

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Speaker 1: fans are standing there. It just feels like a little

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Speaker 1: bit little picture Tom Coughlin, and I don't know if

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Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey, now cautionary tale for you know how to

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Speaker 1: ruin things that would be like you rolling into the

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Speaker 1: the four months removed from USC and everyone that makes

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Speaker 1: except for the rays part. I've seen Warren Sap do

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Speaker 1: that in the newsroom. You aren't wrong. You ain't in

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Speaker 1: the newsroom no more. All right, let's get to Let's

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Speaker 1: start with some surprising news out of Green Bay. The

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Speaker 1: NFL Networks Mike Garafolo reported Wednesday that the Packers are

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Speaker 1: releasing defensive lineman Mike Daniels to two thousand, seventeen pro bowler.

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Speaker 1: He's do eight million, twenty nineteen in base salary. UM

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Speaker 1: clears that money and then some on their cap. Thirty

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Speaker 1: Joe Banner, former Eagles and Browns president, had some pretty

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Speaker 1: strong language on Twitter. He said, let's be perfectly clear,

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Speaker 1: Mike earre full because now we have every reporter reporting

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Speaker 1: all day long from sun up till sundown. The packers

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Speaker 1: Stacy Dal's later in the morning reported that basically that

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Speaker 1: Matt Lafleur in the front office came to a point

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Speaker 1: if you're Mike Daniels, why could this not have happened

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Speaker 1: what's happened here. Um, But you wonder if this would

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Speaker 1: saw that report a couple of weeks ago. But the

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Speaker 1: Packers reporting record expenses, they're flat year to year in

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Speaker 1: terms of revenue, or excuse me, they were down year

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Speaker 1: this is a different organization that's run differently. Are they

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Speaker 1: suspension after failing a drug test for a band SUS substance.

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Speaker 1: Luan says he didn't knowingly take the prohibited supplement and

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Speaker 1: think this story is over. He failed the test, but

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Speaker 1: whatever is. Well, here's the thing. If you go look

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Speaker 1: a human behavior angle, I don't think you go this

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Speaker 1: distance if you know inside that you aren't that this

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Speaker 1: This guy is not a head case. He's someone that

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Speaker 1: and I don't know if this needs to be a

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Speaker 1: know you can't just he's gonna appeal it, and I

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Speaker 1: certainly end that way and Luan sees it coming. So

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Speaker 1: Let's not have a lot of follow ups about this.

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Speaker 1: The PR guy was in like the corner of the

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Speaker 1: prescott which is staring at Andy Reid, exactly exactly. It

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Speaker 1: doesn't change anything that we discussed on our last show.

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Speaker 1: Moving on, Oh, the town of friendly people, Pearl River.

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Speaker 1: We're back in business. Excuston. Texas General manager Brian Gaine

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Speaker 1: landed a new job with a former team, The Bills

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Speaker 1: hired Gain as senior personnel adviser to assist with both

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Speaker 1: pro and college scouting the team and outs. Tuesday, the Texans,

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Speaker 1: in a surprise move, fired Gain is their GM after

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Speaker 1: just one season. In June, tough news for Pearl River.

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Speaker 1: We were proud to see one of our own grew

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Speaker 1: up on Quake Lane and Pearl River about a stone's

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Speaker 1: throw from the Handsas House, and um, we can keep

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Speaker 1: playing that. I just like it. It's very It makes

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Speaker 1: you feel like I'm back at in PR and it's

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Speaker 1: the fourth of July and the fireworks in the cemetery. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean I think one thing that I've always thought

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Speaker 1: my whole life, even when I grew up, Um, you know,

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Speaker 1: not too far from Pearl River, far enough that you

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Speaker 1: can knock someone from Pearl River down, but you know

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Speaker 1: they're going to get back up. They're climbing out of

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Speaker 1: that mine shift. Do you know my mom? Over and over?

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Speaker 1: My mom? I love deb the greatest woman well than

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Speaker 1: my mom. She she is actively actively miffed that you

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Speaker 1: could keep Erica's mom too. That what what are we

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Speaker 1: talking about? Mom's Your mom is the greatest mom. That's

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Speaker 1: fine that you think that, but there are other people

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Speaker 1: that she's a wonderful. But my mom is the greatest. Now,

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying that you need to believe. You said

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Speaker 1: it definitively, as if there's something that we all believe

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Speaker 1: to you know what, I'm gonna put them on the

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Speaker 1: phone with you and you can share about an hour

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Speaker 1: and a half conversation with them at the super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: We're tight. But I think she don'tnderstand where I'm coming from.

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Speaker 1: The point I'm trying to make is that my mom,

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Speaker 1: who grew up well, she was born in Queens in

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Speaker 1: New York City and then as a young girl moved

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Speaker 1: to Pearl River, Um and she she loves the town

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Speaker 1: where she grew up. She has issues with how I sometimes,

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Speaker 1: uh portray Pearl River, which to connects because I believe

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Speaker 1: it's I portrayed in a flattering light, but opinions very

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Speaker 1: apparently it's definitely portrayed in a light. Um. Well, Pearl

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Speaker 1: Brian game back on his feet. Um, finally in the

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Speaker 1: news before we get to um eight o'clock de light. Yes,

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Speaker 1: a well known player is hanging up the cleats after

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Speaker 1: ten seasons. Sanchez takes the step. There's the high point

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Speaker 1: of my Jets fandom, as set as that may seem.

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Speaker 1: It was a divisional round playoff game against Nollingland Patriots

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Speaker 1: in January two thousand and eleven. Um, Mark Sanchez throws

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Speaker 1: a beautiful ball, Santonio Holmes gets his toes down in

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Speaker 1: the corner of the end zone. The Jets upset the

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Speaker 1: Patriots one in Foxborough. Uh. That is the famous can't

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Speaker 1: wait Bart Scott game. They then they could wait, actually

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Speaker 1: because then they got beat by the Steelers the next week.

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Speaker 1: But Mark Sanchez is finished. He's retiring from ten after

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Speaker 1: ten years in the NFL. Uh. He's taken a college

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Speaker 1: football job at ABC ESPN, And I don't think that

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Speaker 1: this is a career that deserves a long winding um

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Speaker 1: obituary or anything like that, but I will just say

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Speaker 1: that for a guy that will be remembered, and perhaps

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Speaker 1: fairly so. I get it for the butt fumble. Um.

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Speaker 1: There is a large segment of football fans in the

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Speaker 1: New York, New Jersey area that have fond memories of

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Speaker 1: Sanchez and what he was able to do. And while

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Speaker 1: the Jets defense in those early Rex Ryan years carried

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Speaker 1: that team, go back if you care to and watch

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Speaker 1: highlights from those four playoff wins, all on the road

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Speaker 1: from Sanchez, and he made some big money throws as

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Speaker 1: a three year old kid who actually was a bit

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Speaker 1: of a limited player as it turned out. The Jets

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Speaker 1: drafted him to be a star. He was never close

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Speaker 1: to that, but he had moxie at charisma. He didn't

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Speaker 1: quite have the game to become a true franchise passer,

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Speaker 1: but he had some really special moments, and for Jets

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Speaker 1: fans who haven't had had a lot of special moments

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Speaker 1: since Joe Namath, he will always be remembered fondly. I

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Speaker 1: get it the butt fumble, it's part of his legacy,

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Speaker 1: but he was more than that. It's real, it's real,

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Speaker 1: different if you are a fan of a team that

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Speaker 1: has to look back to that far, to your last

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Speaker 1: playoff appearances at all. And it's so he came very

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Speaker 1: close to being Eric man Jeanie's quarterback in Cleveland. They

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Speaker 1: traded with the Dijets, traded up, and the Browns wound

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Speaker 1: up getting Alex Mack at number twenty one. And I'll

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Speaker 1: say one thing about like when you've seen what happened

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Speaker 1: with Tony Romo, and around this time was when Tony

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Speaker 1: Romo was criticized so rounding his career for one or

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Speaker 1: two mistakes he made, and it kind of the book

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Speaker 1: was out on him, and I think that helped him

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Speaker 1: as a broadcaster, along with his incredible smart But we've

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Speaker 1: already seen some stuff from Sanchez. He's very good on air,

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Speaker 1: and I kind of love what he's gonna do with

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Speaker 1: his next career because this is when the quarterback gets revenge,

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Speaker 1: when they go have a nice twenty or thirty year

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Speaker 1: long career where they're still in the limelight and we

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Speaker 1: learned to love him. I don't think about the bumbo

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Speaker 1: and I don't really even think much about the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: For me, when I think of Mark Sanchez, it's the

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Speaker 1: first few NFL starts when he looked like a throwback

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Speaker 1: to the fifties and sixties with his ball handling and

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Speaker 1: sleight of hand, and it looked like we were seeing

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Speaker 1: a guy who was gonna be the Jets quarterback for

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Speaker 1: the next decade. And I just never thought he got

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Speaker 1: better after his first few starts. He yeah, and he

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Speaker 1: after that second season. They actually after the Bart Scott

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Speaker 1: Patriots game, they fell behind three in the a f

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Speaker 1: C title game against the Steelers, almost came all the

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Speaker 1: way back. They lost nineteen, and there was a it

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Speaker 1: will live in Jets infamy. A third and three, Roethlisberger

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Speaker 1: rolls to his right and hits a young guy named

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Speaker 1: Antonio Brown for the first down that let Steelers run

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Speaker 1: out the clock to clinch the a f C title.

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Speaker 1: Every Jets fan that knows the game and was following

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Speaker 1: what was going on the second half just wanted to

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Speaker 1: see Mark Sanchez get the ball one more time because

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Speaker 1: he was playing incredibly well in the second half. And

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Speaker 1: it's a great what if in his career in the

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Speaker 1: Jets history if they could have gotten that last stop,

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Speaker 1: but they didn't, and that is it. Good luck, Mark

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Speaker 1: Sanchez or whatever comes next. Uh, let us now hit

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Speaker 1: eight o'clock the light all right? Jadavian Clowney, unsigned franchise

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Speaker 1: tag player, expected to report before Week one. Mark surprised, Well,

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Speaker 1: I I would have been a couple of days ago.

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Speaker 1: But Tom Pella Sero talk to someone who said they'd

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Speaker 1: be shocked if he missed any regular season games. Also

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Speaker 1: from Tom Pella Sero, he reports that quote, no new

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Speaker 1: deal is on the horizon at this point for Tom Brady,

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Speaker 1: the Patriots quarterback going on forty two years old. Another

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Speaker 1: chip on the shoulder, the old man West. Well, you

559
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Speaker 1: never know if that lack of a contract is coming

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Speaker 1: from Brady or from the Patriots. But Mike Giardi from

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Speaker 1: NFL Network says there is some frustration from Brady's camp.

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Speaker 1: This hasn't been taken care of yet. Interesting drama. Ricky

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Speaker 1: Cooper Cup, the Rams wide receiver who towards a c

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Speaker 1: L last November, will avoid the act of publist to

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Speaker 1: open training camp. Great news, Mark sass for a team

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Speaker 1: that missed Cooper Cup down the stretch last year. For

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Speaker 1: a team that has questions about Todd Gurley, for a

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Speaker 1: team that's wondering how Jared goff will rebound from an ugly,

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Speaker 1: ugly super Bowl. This is a nice bit of news. Uh,

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Speaker 1: there's some bad news for you, potentially, Mark set devolve.

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Speaker 1: Watch the Patriots have signed tight end Lance Kendricks. Isn't

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Speaker 1: that the roster spot that Devolved would hypothetically have at

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Speaker 1: the stage. As I've tweeted, I think this is the

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Speaker 1: move behind the move behind the move. Oh like that.

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Speaker 1: Bobby Wagner reports to the Seahawks. Duke Johnson also reports

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Speaker 1: to the Browns West, So some people are reporting Decide

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Speaker 1: being unhappy. Yeah, it's good that Bobby Wagner's there. This

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Speaker 1: seems like Earl Thomas is uh the way he handed

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Speaker 1: it last year that he might not give and practices,

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Speaker 1: but he's still gonna be there. Mark, I'm annoyed that

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Speaker 1: this on this Duke Johnson thing. I'm not saying he's

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Speaker 1: the greatest running back on the planet, but that they're

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Speaker 1: supposed to give him away for a bag of spoons

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Speaker 1: because he's disgruntled. Don't do it, Mark, I know you're

585
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 1: furious about this. The Redskins part ways of linebacker Mason

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Speaker 1: Foster that this is your platform. I'm still coming to

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Speaker 1: grips with this, um, I am working on a written

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00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:10,720
Speaker 1: piece of personal diary piece that I you know, I

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00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:13,920
Speaker 1: just need to dump out some emotions, a lot of conflicting,

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Speaker 1: like what I do with Sanchez. Just now, I thought

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Speaker 1: you're Mason Foster monologue with a hit hard. I have

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00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:21,680
Speaker 1: raging forces inside of me over this topic and not

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Speaker 1: ready to discuss. Hey, Wes, this is not a laughing matter.

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00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:29,400
Speaker 1: But Adrian Peterson is reportedly in financial rune. Guy that's

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Speaker 1: made more than double of any running back in NFL history,

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00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:35,440
Speaker 1: like a hundred million, and he's got people coming after

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00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:38,080
Speaker 1: him over loans. It's like trying to keep water in

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Speaker 1: your hands. Yeah, you you just had to wonder like

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Speaker 1: who's who who? Yeah, just like water. That's it. I'll

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Speaker 1: leave it there. Uh Andy Reid exotic offseason activity. He

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Speaker 1: had some Mexican food mark one spice. Okay, need more

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Speaker 1: and need more information. He was asked to be if

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Speaker 1: he did anything fun or exotic exotic this offseason, and

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Speaker 1: he said that he had taco bell No, he had

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Speaker 1: chili relanos a great I meant stretch boundaries of the

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Speaker 1: human experience whenever you can. That's my next project. I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna make Chili ns um. That's what's happening in the

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Speaker 1: news alright, As promised our next guest, you know who.

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Speaker 1: She is, senior writer over at ESPN. She's involved in

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Speaker 1: roughly four hun ESPN programs and and beyond. The Queen

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Speaker 1: of Bristol Mena Coimes. Welcome to the Around the NFL podcast. Well,

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Speaker 1: the Queen of everywhere but Bristol. That's what I've managed

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Speaker 1: so far. It's so good to have you mean on

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Speaker 1: the show. We are big fans of yours and uh

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Speaker 1: we have been doing like a dance for like a

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Speaker 1: year or so, like we gotta get Mina on the show,

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Speaker 1: and finally here we are. Yeah, same city, yet not together. No,

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Speaker 1: isn't it weird? And one quick note, I mean Greg

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Speaker 1: he had been very excited about being a part of this,

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Speaker 1: but confided to UH, Dan and I this morning that

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Speaker 1: he was a little too nervous to appear. So we're

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Speaker 1: just gonna force on with the three of us. F

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Speaker 1: Y I and the reason we have Mina on uh

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Speaker 1: there was a lot of reasons, but the idea came

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Speaker 1: from her latest profile um for ESPN on Baker Mayfield

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Speaker 1: headline Baker Mayfield isn't afraid of the hype and it's

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Speaker 1: a great piece and uh Mina as you. I'm sure no.

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Speaker 1: Mark Sessler is a huge Cleveland Browns fan, So this

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Speaker 1: just felt like the perfect opportunity to have you on

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Speaker 1: the show and talk about it for a few minutes.

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Speaker 1: And um let me start here. Well, let's get into

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Speaker 1: it this way. So Hugh Jackson, uh not Baker Mayfield's

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Speaker 1: favorite guy called Baker the Pied Piper, that his charisma

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Speaker 1: quote has a way of drawing people to him, which

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Speaker 1: you wrote in the piece a lot of found deeply weird.

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Speaker 1: Did you find that when you spent extended time with

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Speaker 1: the Cleveland brown starting quarterback. Well, I want to add

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Speaker 1: a quick note on that pie Piper analogy. While I

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Speaker 1: was writing the piece, I actually looked up the pie

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Speaker 1: Piper story. I don't know if you guys know, but

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Speaker 1: it's very dark. Oh yeah, in retrospect, may have been accurate.

642
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:21,239
Speaker 1: So the pie Piper ends up, you know, leading the

643
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:22,840
Speaker 1: rats out of the town. They don't pay him, so

644
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:25,120
Speaker 1: he like kills all the kids or leads them away

645
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:27,960
Speaker 1: from the town as well, and may have foreshadows some

646
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:31,400
Speaker 1: of the tension between Baker and Hugh Jackson, because he

647
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:34,120
Speaker 1: did lead the team away from human in some ways.

648
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:37,120
Speaker 1: Why is it that in the old days the fairy

649
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:40,480
Speaker 1: tales that were read to children, children slaughtered all the

650
00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:42,279
Speaker 1: time in those fairy tales. I guess it was a

651
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:45,640
Speaker 1: way to keep them in line. Lived to be fourteen

652
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:47,560
Speaker 1: or fifteen years old and some of those olden times,

653
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:50,000
Speaker 1: so they were tough for an earlier age. I think, well,

654
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:53,719
Speaker 1: how else do you commemorate a tragan That's that's true too,

655
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:58,640
Speaker 1: you remember the victims anyway, So, baker Field, what was

656
00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:01,160
Speaker 1: your sense on the guy spending How much time did

657
00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:02,880
Speaker 1: you spend with him for this um? You know? So

658
00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:05,680
Speaker 1: I met him in Cleveland for that first interview, and

659
00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:07,319
Speaker 1: we spent about an hour and a half or so

660
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:11,439
Speaker 1: in the Browns facility, and that was enough to come

661
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 1: away believing not about the killing the kids part, but

662
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:19,520
Speaker 1: the charisma aspect of the the Pie Pepper analogy really holds.

663
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:22,040
Speaker 1: I mean, the guy is it's it's funny to meet

664
00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:24,279
Speaker 1: guys that he says, I'm not politically correct or I'm

665
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:27,120
Speaker 1: not a politician because he could run for president, right,

666
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:30,160
Speaker 1: but he's so freaking charismatic, and you hear stories about

667
00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:31,640
Speaker 1: it you did in college. He's the kind of guy

668
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:34,480
Speaker 1: who could like walk into a locker room and regardless

669
00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:37,239
Speaker 1: of your age or your background, I think he can

670
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:40,960
Speaker 1: immediately connect with every single person. Is there anyone else?

671
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:43,920
Speaker 1: I mean in terms of the charisma that he exudes.

672
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:45,880
Speaker 1: You've been around a lot of different football players and

673
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:48,239
Speaker 1: other athletes in different sports. Is here does he remind you,

674
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:50,560
Speaker 1: like right off the bat of someone else? Remember people

675
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:52,480
Speaker 1: still like when they walk into a room with Bill Clinton.

676
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:55,120
Speaker 1: Not everyone, but some people felt like you could just

677
00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:57,759
Speaker 1: feel as energy coming at you and it was a

678
00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:00,440
Speaker 1: very unique situation. It sounds like Big here has a

679
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 1: little bit of that going on. Is there anyone else

680
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:05,320
Speaker 1: you kind of that comes to mind? Yeah? In the NFL,

681
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:08,600
Speaker 1: Um definitely, none of the guys that I've profile. It's

682
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 1: funny actually wrote a story about his backup in Cleveland,

683
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:14,000
Speaker 1: Tyrod Taylor, who could not be more different from him,

684
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:16,560
Speaker 1: who is is a wonderful person. In Baker himself, you know,

685
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:18,640
Speaker 1: talked about how kind he was and in some ways

686
00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:20,719
Speaker 1: how that made him not He said I didn't want

687
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:23,160
Speaker 1: to come and be an asked was his his words

688
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:25,920
Speaker 1: with respect to ty Rod? But um, you know, I

689
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:28,120
Speaker 1: did a story on Aaron Rodgers a couple of summers ago.

690
00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:32,239
Speaker 1: Very different, uh, Jalen Ramsey last summer. I actually thought

691
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:34,640
Speaker 1: that story Jalen Ramsey was in the news today for

692
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:37,879
Speaker 1: the Brinks truck stunt. I thought, yeah, well, let's don't

693
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:40,560
Speaker 1: talking about it. I thought, though the Ramsey story was

694
00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:44,759
Speaker 1: actually kind of interesting, an interesting lens to think about

695
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 1: Baker because while they're they're very different and they play

696
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:50,200
Speaker 1: different positions and I think their personalities mean different things

697
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:53,440
Speaker 1: for those positions. Jalen talked a lot of trash and

698
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:55,840
Speaker 1: was very much himself, and I think he kind of

699
00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:59,719
Speaker 1: caught the bad side of that last season, which is

700
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 1: if you talk at odd trash in your yourself and

701
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:04,799
Speaker 1: your team doesn't back it up, it hurts. And I

702
00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 1: think that's the risk for Baker as well. Well. That's

703
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:09,520
Speaker 1: a great call and also the with I think what

704
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:12,480
Speaker 1: Baker what makes him different? And he does feel different.

705
00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:15,600
Speaker 1: Um when you look at the way the league is,

706
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:18,480
Speaker 1: especially at the quarterback position, and he even said in

707
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:20,799
Speaker 1: your piece you're write about how the even the idea

708
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:24,400
Speaker 1: of quote franchise quarterback, it's like a politician type term.

709
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:28,040
Speaker 1: He is outspoken, he's he he can have rabbit ears

710
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:31,120
Speaker 1: on social media and sports media. He'll stir things up,

711
00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 1: he'll say things, and I feel like you think back

712
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:36,840
Speaker 1: in the NFL and especially the modern NFL, a lot

713
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:40,360
Speaker 1: of quarterbacks don't do that. So for in some ways,

714
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:42,520
Speaker 1: you could look at Baker as a bit of a

715
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:44,920
Speaker 1: social experiment, right, for a guy that is going to

716
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:47,560
Speaker 1: be outspoken, say what's on his mind, but also be

717
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:50,600
Speaker 1: the leader of a team at quarterback, of position that's

718
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:53,840
Speaker 1: typically reserved for the stoic man that's the face of

719
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:56,480
Speaker 1: the team and never says anything interesting. I think that's

720
00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:58,880
Speaker 1: what you're absolutely right. What's unusual about him is that

721
00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 1: he's a quarterback, right, because if he was a defensive end,

722
00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:03,080
Speaker 1: and we wouldn't really you know, he honestly, he doesn't

723
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:05,719
Speaker 1: even talk that much trash and um. But the fact

724
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:08,200
Speaker 1: that he sort of says what he thinks about everything

725
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:11,439
Speaker 1: and and plays that position is unusual. UM. I talked

726
00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:14,200
Speaker 1: to Drew Stanton for this story, and the interview didn't

727
00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:16,160
Speaker 1: make it into the piece, but you know, there here's

728
00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:19,000
Speaker 1: a guy who's been in the league for twelve seasons

729
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:21,200
Speaker 1: at this point, been around a lot on number one picks.

730
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:24,120
Speaker 1: He was around Andrew Luck and he had a lot

731
00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:26,600
Speaker 1: of thoughts, interesting thoughts on the way that they've managed

732
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:29,120
Speaker 1: Baker in Cleveland from a football perspective compared to other

733
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:31,800
Speaker 1: quarterbacks he's been around, but from a personality perspective. He

734
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:35,000
Speaker 1: told me Baker is not like any other quarterback I've

735
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 1: been around. And he did say he thought some of

736
00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:40,520
Speaker 1: it was generational. You know, Baker is very much a millennial.

737
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:43,360
Speaker 1: He is online like us, He is reading stuff. He

738
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:46,319
Speaker 1: is not afraid to express his opinions. And I think

739
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:48,520
Speaker 1: there might be a bit of a sea change from

740
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:51,239
Speaker 1: here on out. Well, I think we've we've seen quarterbacks

741
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:53,800
Speaker 1: like this. To me, he's got shades of former Bears

742
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:57,360
Speaker 1: quarterback Jim McMahon. He's got some Brett Farve and those

743
00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:02,200
Speaker 1: like Jim McMahon was unreliable. He was injured constantly. Um

744
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:04,439
Speaker 1: he was in trouble a lot, to the point where

745
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:06,120
Speaker 1: it affected whether he was going to play or not.

746
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:08,439
Speaker 1: And far was the opposite. He was, he was a rock.

747
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:10,160
Speaker 1: He played every week. He couldn't get him out of

748
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:12,840
Speaker 1: the lineup. UM. So, to me, that's kind of interesting

749
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:14,680
Speaker 1: that he has kind of both of those guys in

750
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:17,160
Speaker 1: him and we'll see which one wins out. But I

751
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:20,480
Speaker 1: think I see more far in him, like dun far No,

752
00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:24,959
Speaker 1: that's the perfect comparison. Brett Farve and Lincoln Riley brought

753
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:26,560
Speaker 1: that up to me because he said, you know, Baker's

754
00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:28,760
Speaker 1: the only quarterback I've been around who plays better emotional

755
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:30,480
Speaker 1: and I and we were kind of like trying to

756
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:32,480
Speaker 1: think of other quarterbacks, and he came up with Farve.

757
00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:36,520
Speaker 1: And you guys might remember Scott McCluin, who was consulting

758
00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:40,120
Speaker 1: for the Browns when they took Baker Um was also

759
00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:42,000
Speaker 1: a Brett five guy, and I think he saw shades

760
00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:44,360
Speaker 1: of him in his former QB. I don't think that

761
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:47,720
Speaker 1: they draft Baker may Field if not for Scott McCluin.

762
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:50,360
Speaker 1: I agree. I'm convinced to this day this This was

763
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:52,600
Speaker 1: in the piece, so I assume it's in bounds. But

764
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:56,359
Speaker 1: I found it very interesting the nuggets that you dug

765
00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:58,560
Speaker 1: up on his You know, he got married this summer.

766
00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:01,799
Speaker 1: And I follow Emily Wilkinson on on Instagram because because

767
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:03,360
Speaker 1: I want to track. I want to track what my

768
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:06,799
Speaker 1: quarterback is doing, number one. But he is social media

769
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 1: media savvy. But at the same time, I found the

770
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:12,160
Speaker 1: this nugget that to get her attention because she was

771
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:14,919
Speaker 1: just like, who is this sort of thug quarterback guy?

772
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:18,600
Speaker 1: He followed her and unfollowed her, and followed her and

773
00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:21,719
Speaker 1: unfollowed her on Instagram to get on a radar. I mean,

774
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:24,800
Speaker 1: that's like, I'm not sure that's something Biger Medfield wouldn't

775
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:26,840
Speaker 1: want me to know, but I find it an interesting

776
00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:29,319
Speaker 1: way to go for a future NFL quarter fewer, to

777
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:34,279
Speaker 1: reboot or reimagined fear the Mark Wahlberg classic. That would

778
00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:36,400
Speaker 1: be one of his early moves, like early on in

779
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:38,600
Speaker 1: the films. But I guess if you get the girl

780
00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:41,520
Speaker 1: then it doesn't come off too poorly. I guess you know,

781
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:43,920
Speaker 1: when I heard that, I was confused because Baker is

782
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:47,160
Speaker 1: so accurate, right, that's a hallmark, But he just kept

783
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:50,239
Speaker 1: shooting a shot and look, it worked, right, So who

784
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:52,919
Speaker 1: are we to question it? Absolutely? And and we also

785
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:56,800
Speaker 1: you know the Browns, the history, it's almost too perfect.

786
00:40:57,000 --> 00:41:00,640
Speaker 1: And Mark, I know it's Marcus, the Browns fan. You're

787
00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:03,160
Speaker 1: almost on guard because everything seems to be falling into

788
00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:05,880
Speaker 1: play so beautifully for Cleveland that you're waiting for the

789
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:09,120
Speaker 1: other shoe to drop. But it's he's the perfect guy

790
00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:11,080
Speaker 1: to land in Cleveland. And I thought another part of

791
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:14,920
Speaker 1: your profile again everybody check it out on ESPN dot com, uh,

792
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:17,040
Speaker 1: is when you ask him about all the hype, there

793
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:18,719
Speaker 1: are people that are there are people out there that

794
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:20,920
Speaker 1: are smart football people that think that Cleveland Browns can

795
00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:22,439
Speaker 1: go to the super Bowl this year, that they're gonna

796
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:24,640
Speaker 1: win the division, Like that's a real thing that's out there.

797
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:27,799
Speaker 1: And you ask him if if it feels weird to

798
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:30,319
Speaker 1: have so much hype, and he says, for them, not

799
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:32,960
Speaker 1: for me, for everyone else around here, it's been pretty

800
00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:34,880
Speaker 1: terrible to be part of this team for a while.

801
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:37,000
Speaker 1: And that's so true. And Mark, you can speak to

802
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:40,400
Speaker 1: us more than anyone. Yeah, a lot of hype around

803
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:42,640
Speaker 1: the Browns. It could backfire, and that's what we've seen.

804
00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:44,319
Speaker 1: It happened in a thousand teams before. But you know,

805
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:46,719
Speaker 1: it's a lot better than being made fun of constantly

806
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:49,080
Speaker 1: for being one in thirty one or whatever it is,

807
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:51,680
Speaker 1: or twelve and ninety eight or whatever the run was

808
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:54,200
Speaker 1: before that. Like, this is better. It is better. I

809
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:57,239
Speaker 1: think the offseason is just so long that there is

810
00:41:57,280 --> 00:42:00,640
Speaker 1: already exhaustion with a team that just simply seven games

811
00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:03,799
Speaker 1: last year. We're not talking about Patriots exhaustion, except people

812
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:06,320
Speaker 1: seem some people seem just as tired of the Browns.

813
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 1: But I wonder, I mean, if by being there, do

814
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:10,279
Speaker 1: you feel like the quarterback and the team were able

815
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:13,120
Speaker 1: to kind of get beyond all that and just stay focused.

816
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 1: I do. Um. By the way, the dismissive tone about

817
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:19,320
Speaker 1: the Browns winning division, I certainly think they're going to

818
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:23,840
Speaker 1: win the division, super Bowls. Yeah, you slow, it is

819
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:26,879
Speaker 1: a competitive, competitive division, I do. I agree, Uh, you're

820
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:30,160
Speaker 1: probably gonna get too playoff teams out of here, But um,

821
00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:32,239
Speaker 1: I do think Baker is capable of doing it. You know,

822
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:35,040
Speaker 1: there's this question that I posed in the piece of well,

823
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:37,719
Speaker 1: what's going to happen if he encounters adversity? You know,

824
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 1: the began a schedule. There's some challenges there. Um, but

825
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:44,760
Speaker 1: he's encountered adversity before. I think the fact that last season,

826
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:48,200
Speaker 1: after winning that initial game, they had so many losses

827
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:50,600
Speaker 1: and it was obviously a circus like environment in Cleveland,

828
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:53,279
Speaker 1: we know know, we now know more about the fact

829
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:56,200
Speaker 1: that he kept his head down and was able to

830
00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:58,880
Speaker 1: just kind of steer through it, I think is important

831
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:01,120
Speaker 1: and instructive Now They've got a lot of mouse to

832
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:04,279
Speaker 1: feed there on that offense now, and he's got to

833
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:07,280
Speaker 1: navigate that. But he navigated as well in college too,

834
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:10,440
Speaker 1: And I guys, I like, I'm very high on him

835
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:13,640
Speaker 1: not having a sophomore slump. I suppose just because of

836
00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:17,480
Speaker 1: the ways in which he improved over the season last year.

837
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:20,400
Speaker 1: I I have concerns about this offensive line, It's probably

838
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:24,040
Speaker 1: the biggest concern I have about the team. But the

839
00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:27,440
Speaker 1: fact that he was able to like his decision making,

840
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:31,160
Speaker 1: um you saw. I think him and Freddie Kitchens kind

841
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:33,960
Speaker 1: of come together as a season went on. I think

842
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:36,560
Speaker 1: I think that they'll be fine this year. Yeah, and

843
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 1: people underestimate how much a player like Odell can open

844
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:42,160
Speaker 1: up an offense. I don't see any way how they're

845
00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:44,200
Speaker 1: not going to be much better. And I really did

846
00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:46,640
Speaker 1: put a star by that the sentence we've been talking

847
00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:49,279
Speaker 1: about where he talks about, you know, for them, not

848
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:51,399
Speaker 1: for me, for everyone else around here. It's been pretty

849
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:53,719
Speaker 1: terrible to be a part of this team because the

850
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:58,440
Speaker 1: contrast with the other team in Ohio, which is still haunted,

851
00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:02,279
Speaker 1: which went through the Indies and head quarterbacks that were

852
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:04,960
Speaker 1: the polar opposite of Baker Mayfield and Andy Dalton and

853
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:08,600
Speaker 1: Carson Palmer personality wise. And I think it's easier for

854
00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:11,759
Speaker 1: a quarterback like Baker Mayfield to come in and eradicate

855
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:14,480
Speaker 1: all those ghosts in the building because of that charisma

856
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:17,120
Speaker 1: in that personality. And I'm not sure the Bengals have

857
00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:20,560
Speaker 1: done that yet. UM, go ahead of me. Oh no,

858
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:23,760
Speaker 1: I was just it was a sad oh about the Bengals.

859
00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:27,120
Speaker 1: I don't want to appropriate. Yeah, maybe the focus of

860
00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:30,840
Speaker 1: your next profile at ESPN UH. I mean, hey, Um,

861
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 1: You're not just you know, a great profile profile writer.

862
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:36,560
Speaker 1: You've got a lot of irons in the fire, including

863
00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:39,440
Speaker 1: you hosted a show coast at a show uh with

864
00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:42,600
Speaker 1: the ring or Big Little Live, which is first of all,

865
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:48,279
Speaker 1: really nice job with the title. Um, your thoughts because

866
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:50,960
Speaker 1: I don't know West A few weeks back on our

867
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:55,320
Speaker 1: show road C poems are spoke C poems about the show.

868
00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:58,160
Speaker 1: What were thoughts about season two of Big Little Lives?

869
00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:01,439
Speaker 1: The music? I thought that I feel like I should

870
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:05,480
Speaker 1: change the tone of my voice npr um, that's my

871
00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:12,480
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson contract announcement voice. Hey around the nfl UM.

872
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:18,600
Speaker 1: I thought that the acting was incredible. I thought the

873
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:21,600
Speaker 1: plot didn't quite hold me as much as it did

874
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:25,360
Speaker 1: in season one. UM, but I thought overall, it was,

875
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:28,040
Speaker 1: you know, for this time of years, the perfect summer,

876
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:31,840
Speaker 1: you know television show. Is there a season three? I

877
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:34,040
Speaker 1: kind of hope not. I don't know. I think that

878
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:38,640
Speaker 1: they've exhausted the run of this. UM. They said in

879
00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:40,879
Speaker 1: the past it would be two seasons, but you never know.

880
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:42,920
Speaker 1: I would like you, I do season three, but Meryl

881
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:46,400
Speaker 1: Streep has a twin and she comes in and unleashes

882
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:51,680
Speaker 1: her brand of chaos. Fee too far. It is good, though,

883
00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:56,319
Speaker 1: I mean the Prestige TV era that's ongoing. We're kind

884
00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:58,640
Speaker 1: of out of the from the enormous shadow of Game

885
00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:00,920
Speaker 1: of Thrones, which is nice. Ricky how Wood behind the glass,

886
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:03,040
Speaker 1: through it out there. I need a show to watch.

887
00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:06,560
Speaker 1: I I nominated Euphoria and Me and I saw you

888
00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:11,680
Speaker 1: back that up. That's the one. Yeah, that's a great

889
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:14,640
Speaker 1: It's almost like a throwback HBO show to the old days,

890
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:17,920
Speaker 1: where it's it's titillating and a little wild, and it's

891
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:20,120
Speaker 1: it's meant to scare away certain people. Stuff that they

892
00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:22,799
Speaker 1: removed from their library about a year ago. I liked

893
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:24,480
Speaker 1: you for you too. I thought you're already watching. I

894
00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:28,279
Speaker 1: suggested silver Spoons, which West. I don't know what's going

895
00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:32,360
Speaker 1: on that's getting there's that generational divide again between Erica

896
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:33,960
Speaker 1: and the boys on the other side of the table.

897
00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:40,400
Speaker 1: Ricky would like, UM, finally before before you go, Mena,

898
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:43,200
Speaker 1: and again, thank you so much for joining us. UM.

899
00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:45,200
Speaker 1: I want to give you our version. It's kind of

900
00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:49,840
Speaker 1: like our old game qualist to Fantasia. What's your fantasy, UM,

901
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:52,040
Speaker 1: where I'm just gonna give you an either or scenario,

902
00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:56,520
Speaker 1: a little sliding doors action. Okay. Uh, you're a die

903
00:46:56,560 --> 00:47:01,080
Speaker 1: hard Seahawks fan, which I love, by the way, because

904
00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:04,160
Speaker 1: we keep it real here in the studio about who

905
00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:07,640
Speaker 1: we root for, and Mina's out here covering the NFL

906
00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:10,400
Speaker 1: and just being like I grew up with the Seahawks

907
00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:12,560
Speaker 1: with my old man, and I just that's who I

908
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:16,080
Speaker 1: support and I still do, so I respect that. I

909
00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:18,000
Speaker 1: can't hide it. I have a Super Bowl tattoo. I'm

910
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:24,400
Speaker 1: not going to protect um. It's a forty eight Roman numerals.

911
00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:27,120
Speaker 1: My brother and I made a pact um if we

912
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:29,000
Speaker 1: ever won, because you know, obviously it was the first

913
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:32,719
Speaker 1: that we would get them together. Wow, I was. I

914
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:35,120
Speaker 1: was worried that it was the one where the referees.

915
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:38,840
Speaker 1: I guess the Steelers and you pretty you got it

916
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:40,600
Speaker 1: before the game, and that would have been bad. But okay,

917
00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:42,560
Speaker 1: that's good that you got the w um. All right,

918
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:47,200
Speaker 1: here we go. If I could tell you that in

919
00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:49,680
Speaker 1: Super Bowl forty nine, the famous pass, of course, which

920
00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:52,120
Speaker 1: we don't have to dwell on, I'm happy to get

921
00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:54,360
Speaker 1: into it. Yeah, but if you could go back in time,

922
00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:57,879
Speaker 1: and I won't guarantee anything else other than the ball

923
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:00,759
Speaker 1: is handed. Is that Lenny in the back? It is

924
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:07,759
Speaker 1: he heard supt out enough. Um. All I could tell

925
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:10,760
Speaker 1: you is instead of the famous play call the past,

926
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:14,319
Speaker 1: they hand the ball to Marshaw. Okay, I can't tell

927
00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:17,440
Speaker 1: you whether the play works. Would you be willing to

928
00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:21,799
Speaker 1: live in a universe butterfly effect that doesn't include the

929
00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:27,520
Speaker 1: etch a sketch? Oh yeah, for sure, it's gone. It's

930
00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:30,319
Speaker 1: nothing like it ever replaces it. This is easy. No,

931
00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:33,160
Speaker 1: this is easy because it's just sketching. Like I've gone

932
00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:35,759
Speaker 1: months without doing it recently. I've been busy, so I

933
00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:38,080
Speaker 1: don't mind getting that. I will say I don't think

934
00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:40,920
Speaker 1: that they should have handed it to marshawn Um. But

935
00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:44,040
Speaker 1: obviously the interception was the world worst case scenario. Like

936
00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:46,439
Speaker 1: I would have rather have got him gotten stuffed, which

937
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:47,759
Speaker 1: is what I think would have been the most likely

938
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:51,640
Speaker 1: outcome than the interception. Interesting. See, I guess because we

939
00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:54,080
Speaker 1: don't know each other personally, I just imagine you to

940
00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:59,799
Speaker 1: be on the etch a sketch like four sketch, just

941
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:04,520
Speaker 1: it's gone. It's like you would if she knew that

942
00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:06,600
Speaker 1: it didn't exist, and she had remembered it from a

943
00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:08,560
Speaker 1: different universe. That would be tough to deal. Okay, now

944
00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:11,400
Speaker 1: you know it existed, but you can't recreate it. It's gone.

945
00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:14,480
Speaker 1: I think it would have found another outlet. Um. Yeah,

946
00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:17,680
Speaker 1: the amount of times that that interception in the gift

947
00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:19,479
Speaker 1: for whatever is sent to me, it would be worth

948
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:22,319
Speaker 1: it to eliminate it. That's speaking as a Jets fan.

949
00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:24,399
Speaker 1: It gets the butt fumble forty seven times a week.

950
00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:28,000
Speaker 1: I feel you're paying there, all right, Mina again check

951
00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:30,560
Speaker 1: it out. Baker Mayfield isn't afraid of the hype on

952
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:34,200
Speaker 1: ESPN dot com. She also has a podcast, The Mina

953
00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:38,560
Speaker 1: Kimes Show featuring Lenny the Great Lenny Um and she's

954
00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:41,680
Speaker 1: on all those other shows on ESPN. The Lebotard show

955
00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:44,520
Speaker 1: does great, great work on and so many other things,

956
00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:46,799
Speaker 1: and we just thank you for coming on the show

957
00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:50,239
Speaker 1: and giving us a few minutes. Thanks guys, thanks, thank

958
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:54,600
Speaker 1: you appreciate all Right, there she goes, Mina kid is delightful.

959
00:49:55,120 --> 00:49:57,880
Speaker 1: Oh she's great. I gotta have her back on the show.

960
00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:00,200
Speaker 1: I think it's like we are in a time where

961
00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:04,400
Speaker 1: sportswriting for a lot of people has been reduced to list,

962
00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:06,799
Speaker 1: here's a list of this or that, and it's like

963
00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:10,239
Speaker 1: that's is this really the upper echelon of why you

964
00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:13,560
Speaker 1: started into this. She's still pounding out these stories where

965
00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:16,480
Speaker 1: news five or six news stories come from it and

966
00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:18,200
Speaker 1: you get to know a player in a way you

967
00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:20,200
Speaker 1: wouldn't have. So kudos to her. And she's something like

968
00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:23,520
Speaker 1: six hundred forty television shows. So a busy lady, Ricky

969
00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:26,360
Speaker 1: got that bag. Tell us what you think of Mina Kimes.

970
00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:30,520
Speaker 1: I think she's absolutely incredible. She's she's a broadcast. Oh yeah,

971
00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:34,160
Speaker 1: she's a she's abroad, a fellow abroad. She she's so impressive.

972
00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:38,759
Speaker 1: She's so smart. She is not just your typical you know,

973
00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:44,960
Speaker 1: girl reporter writer to not to throw. Yeah, she she's

974
00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:47,120
Speaker 1: one of the kind I absolutely adore her and lives

975
00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:50,040
Speaker 1: up in the Hollywood Hills, which you know. At some

976
00:50:50,080 --> 00:50:51,680
Speaker 1: point I think we need to get up there by

977
00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:57,720
Speaker 1: invitation preferably, or whatever means necessary. We can storm the gates,

978
00:50:57,719 --> 00:51:00,200
Speaker 1: perhaps as a backup plant that has not worked well

979
00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:02,000
Speaker 1: for certain people in the past. You said she's been

980
00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:05,120
Speaker 1: on the Broadcast podcast of course that you do with

981
00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:07,680
Speaker 1: m V p UM. I've also been a guest. I

982
00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:10,600
Speaker 1: think we all have. Are we all broad soon? Yeah?

983
00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:15,520
Speaker 1: That gives us. That's a that's a line for the resume. Yeah,

984
00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:18,640
Speaker 1: honorary broad Um. All right, let's get out of here.

985
00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:21,919
Speaker 1: By the way, this is it tonight. The Shield ten

986
00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:25,279
Speaker 1: and two, the number one seed in the playoffs. Uh,

987
00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:29,520
Speaker 1: plays for our third consecutive championship. UH. The hashtag West

988
00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:31,680
Speaker 1: that I've been using all season long, and the emails

989
00:51:31,680 --> 00:51:35,239
Speaker 1: I've sent out you recall because when I see a

990
00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:40,880
Speaker 1: hashtagazes over defend the Dynasty has been the hashtag, and

991
00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:43,040
Speaker 1: this is our chance to do it. Erica. This is

992
00:51:43,080 --> 00:51:47,200
Speaker 1: your first time, um, first season with the Shield. You'll

993
00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:50,799
Speaker 1: be getting important innings behind the plate tonight where the

994
00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:54,840
Speaker 1: butterflies that for you. Feeling good, feeling confident, feeling uh,

995
00:51:55,160 --> 00:51:58,600
Speaker 1: feeling excited good to feeling dangerous, feeling I woke up

996
00:51:58,600 --> 00:52:02,640
Speaker 1: feeling dangerous. Then say in my head were my best underwear?

997
00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:06,680
Speaker 1: You know? Treated myself to a high octane sandwich. I'm

998
00:52:06,719 --> 00:52:08,680
Speaker 1: saving this could be you never know, it could be

999
00:52:08,719 --> 00:52:13,480
Speaker 1: my last championship best underwear? He got it well, I

1000
00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:18,200
Speaker 1: means favorite underwear, Mark, because we wear underwear. I currently

1001
00:52:18,200 --> 00:52:20,520
Speaker 1: do and I have a favorite. I bought a series

1002
00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:23,400
Speaker 1: of three that I whenever they're out of the Washington

1003
00:52:23,560 --> 00:52:25,480
Speaker 1: Newer listeners to the show because it doesn't come up

1004
00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:28,880
Speaker 1: in a while. Mark. It was well known, went commando

1005
00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:31,760
Speaker 1: at all times and a bit of a hippie throwback

1006
00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:35,160
Speaker 1: type thing. It's not the case as it moved away.

1007
00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:37,200
Speaker 1: I just cut tired of that. I did that because

1008
00:52:37,239 --> 00:52:39,319
Speaker 1: I wanted to, and then I didn't want to. But

1009
00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:41,920
Speaker 1: I don't regret having done that. Do you are you

1010
00:52:41,960 --> 00:52:46,360
Speaker 1: always in the underpants? Now? Not always? What do you

1011
00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:49,520
Speaker 1: mean by that? I mean I take showers. I mean dangerous?

1012
00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:51,560
Speaker 1: You mean if I were to go out onto the

1013
00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:55,399
Speaker 1: street in jeans or something, no, I would say yes,

1014
00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:57,799
Speaker 1: I would say we're going as the three of Us

1015
00:52:58,040 --> 00:53:00,600
Speaker 1: and um our buddy Jason Zumwalt. We are going to

1016
00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:03,520
Speaker 1: see Once upon a Time in Hollywood on Thursday. I

1017
00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:06,560
Speaker 1: will be wearing a thin slice of denim. Will that'd

1018
00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:08,919
Speaker 1: be the only thing separating us. You know, I will

1019
00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:15,040
Speaker 1: be wearing underwear for that event. I think has changed.

1020
00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:18,239
Speaker 1: It actually changed again when we had that sponsor. You know,

1021
00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:21,040
Speaker 1: if they're not a sponsor anymore, I would love them

1022
00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:23,920
Speaker 1: to be again. Just when they come back, and then

1023
00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:25,480
Speaker 1: we can tell and they take the bag out and

1024
00:53:25,520 --> 00:53:29,760
Speaker 1: they give us the bag, we'll talk about they changed

1025
00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:34,000
Speaker 1: my life anyway. So we're gonna play our our championship

1026
00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:37,239
Speaker 1: game and there will be a um um, I'm sure

1027
00:53:37,239 --> 00:53:39,520
Speaker 1: we'll talk about on Friday show. I mean, it's gonna

1028
00:53:39,600 --> 00:53:42,320
Speaker 1: really suck if we lose, because we'll have to address

1029
00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:45,319
Speaker 1: it in a press conference. Anything's possible, but this is

1030
00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:48,959
Speaker 1: this is the most comfortable I've felt about our team

1031
00:53:48,960 --> 00:53:51,440
Speaker 1: going into the tournament, unless anyone think West and I

1032
00:53:51,560 --> 00:53:53,520
Speaker 1: take it too seriously. We will be heading to the

1033
00:53:53,560 --> 00:53:57,560
Speaker 1: ballpark very early to scout the semifinal matchup, just to

1034
00:53:57,640 --> 00:54:00,279
Speaker 1: get some notes on our opponent in the nine him

1035
00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:02,880
Speaker 1: first pitch, and we will use those notes to our advantage.

1036
00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:05,120
Speaker 1: Now you got you got into it with the ump

1037
00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:09,440
Speaker 1: or someone last time. Are you concerned that same individual

1038
00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:12,680
Speaker 1: will be overseeing your your game again. That seems that

1039
00:54:12,719 --> 00:54:15,160
Speaker 1: he's a moo. Is no way they would assign him

1040
00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:19,600
Speaker 1: to the championship game, alright, the hammad egger in that industry,

1041
00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:23,759
Speaker 1: So he was not. He was not the best craftsman

1042
00:54:24,320 --> 00:54:27,200
Speaker 1: at umpire during They it's just like any other sport.

1043
00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:30,000
Speaker 1: They're gonna put their best people on the game's account.

1044
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:32,000
Speaker 1: I imagine they're going to have a full crew, including

1045
00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:36,239
Speaker 1: down Championship for this. Yes, you're gonna see the outside

1046
00:54:36,440 --> 00:54:39,000
Speaker 1: outside the shirt chess protectors from the old American League.

1047
00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:41,880
Speaker 1: You're gonna see everything. So we're all we're very excited.

1048
00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:45,320
Speaker 1: And there will be a party at uh Tony Garcia

1049
00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:49,040
Speaker 1: R Short Star Shortstops Yacht Club immediately after the game.

1050
00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:52,520
Speaker 1: So hopefully that will be a celebration and not immediately

1051
00:54:52,640 --> 00:54:56,120
Speaker 1: and maybe and and not like a Remember one Gronk

1052
00:54:56,440 --> 00:54:59,400
Speaker 1: on the bad Ankle was dancing in Indianapolis after Super Bowl.

1053
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:04,360
Speaker 1: It was at seven. I just called Super Bowl Giants too, Yes, exactly.

1054
00:55:04,560 --> 00:55:07,080
Speaker 1: This is my first healthy championship for the Shield. I'm

1055
00:55:07,080 --> 00:55:09,279
Speaker 1: looking forward to not a trace of cancer and his

1056
00:55:09,360 --> 00:55:12,600
Speaker 1: bones or his body, and it's a wonder. No hamstrings

1057
00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:17,080
Speaker 1: snapping like a twig, knock on wood. All right, let's

1058
00:55:17,120 --> 00:55:18,920
Speaker 1: get out of here. We gotta get we gotta prep.

1059
00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:23,080
Speaker 1: Thanks again to me, and at times this is Dan

1060
00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:25,520
Speaker 1: hands Is signing off for a Quiet Storm, the Mailman

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Speaker 1: and Ricky Hollywood just just four broads chopping it up

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Speaker 1: on a podcast until Friday